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Most people that have casual sex just move about life normally and have ae qhwn they feel particularly frisky, aroused, or naughty. They do it when they feel its worth it. This post treats casual sex as compulsory, thats not really how it works
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 07:56 PM
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Never crossed my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:55 AM
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How would u know that? Y would u even assume complete strangers aren't happy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:20 PM
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Why shouldn't or wouldn't OF and pornstars get their happy ending? They're resilient, charming girls who know their way around a man. If a guy is into it, how is that a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:18 PM
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That all sounds like solid advice
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:38 AM
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Past high school in 2026, nah
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 08:30 PM
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There's literally nothing stopping heterosexual women from "experimenting " with lesbian relationships or sex. If a woman is identifying as straight, there's a pretty strong indication that she tried, tested, or at least considered alternatives and chose the label that best fits.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 08:25 PM
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You're literally describing a key difference between men and women and how we process information. It's a factory setting, not gonna change. Date extremely masculine women or men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:08 AM
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Personally both, but for this activity A; they know how the people I need to get next to function
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:59 PM
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Y don't u see it represented n the real world; I observe it often and ladies discuss it often
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 03:50 AM
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I'm the only person n my friend group who doesn't prefer fat men above other builds.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 03:44 AM
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It's always been my truth. I assume it's a sensory / conquering thing
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 03:36 AM
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The lean/fit preference is as much logistics as attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 03:35 AM
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"If you are good you will get a woman" was the vast majority of dating advice I got from every non-manosphere source everywhere I've been my entire life "You will get a woman" didn't mention that she'd be sexually voracious and eager about sex with you, nor wouldshe b a virginor have low body count; didn't say that u won't be the beta provider after she "had her fun"; didn't say that u would have to combine significant compromise and effort to get her; didn't say she would reciprocate your effor…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 10:27 PM
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I met my love as coworkers. We would spend too much time together during the day, eat lunch together, and eventually hooked up before we started dating (smoking buddies). Even now, I question what attracted me to him because he's the opposite of who I usually chose; but we were already n limerance, so the rules were unimportant. He was a slow burn that turned blazing hot. TLDR: we were comfortable, friendly, and mutually attracted to the point I didn't fear judgement, rejection, or harm. Some gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 09:52 PM
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You call us misogynistic for doing those things. Yes, sometimes yall r being misogynist; sometimes we're just being assholes You will consistently run into horrible women until u find one that u adore and find each other mutually tolerable. That's dating. Ur welcome to find a warm place for a pity party then get back out there and try again. Other than that, idk what women can say other than that sucks. I guess we could start hating men and demanding accountability, but that's pretty pathetic an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 09:37 PM
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You only make the rules a d standards for yourself. Women can expect, demand, or refuse whatever suits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:53 PM
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All women know that other women r bad. How would u like us to respond to bad women that u have the choice to avoid, set boundaries with, ignore, etc. Men and women share dating challenges because we're all flawed humans attempting to connect with flawed humans. Pick ur poison
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 05:34 PM
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Once men internalize that there is no action, circumstance, choice, or person that exists without loud, opposing criticism; they'd likely fare a lot better or at least more peacefully. Other people's opinions about u aren't your business and mostly can easily be ignored if u aren't looking for validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 04:58 PM
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May be size, personality, comfort level, smell, impulsivity, level of inebriation, seduction/persuasion, body type, her confidence level, a myriad of reasons. Women typically view sex partners as individuals and r sexually responsive to a variety of things
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 02:46 PM
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It does require a bit of social savvy to restrain hostility towards women; especially when other suitors r trying to persuade or seduce
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:36 AM
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I like to feel dolled up and sexy; it makes me feel confident and aroused, I speak, touch, and interact with him differently when I feel that way, fire is still burning daily after 20+ years, no complaints. Plus we attract good energy being the fun, sexy, cute old couple. I see no reason to stop
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:14 AM
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There r plenty of women who fail at love. Often with the parting gift of oow children, emotional & physical scars, addiction, cortisol overload, hormonal imbalance, and financial ruin. In dating, expect to fail spectacularly and repeatedly until u don't. It's the only way
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:10 AM
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I'm not into gay porn, but I don't enjoy gay romance themes. Forbidden or unrequited love. Male joy, longing, and vulnerability without the societal expectations that ruin genuine male/female individuality n romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:04 AM
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So r u trying to b the best option or the chosen option? There's a reason McDonald's doesn't sale kale; they'd rather simp by giving the people what they want. You?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:54 AM
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How? U literally just gave a road map to maximize chances of success
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:52 AM
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I was promiscuous when single; I've never cheated while n a relationship ever. I don't get the correlation; Goldilocks didn't keep sampling after she found "just right."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 04:02 PM
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IFS studies will always point towards misogyny, pedophilia, and polygamy; it's the intention behind their "studies" which are "Mixed for factual reporting based on the endorsement of poor science."
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 03:59 PM
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Contractual obligation, gig economy, modeling, advertising, employment
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 03:49 PM
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No. Also doesn't matter, only despondent men consider the masses n their dating strategy. A man with options finds out that the chick that he's into has kids, he won't b shamed or deterred, he dates person first, not metrics and qualities
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 02:28 AM
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Too many of the content creators and their fans r actually in love with single moms; they couldn't live their grift. Their barely legal dream girls can't or won't mother the sad little rejected boys that they are behind the facade
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 02:24 AM
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Gaming
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 02:37 AM
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Just add "as long as she's attracted to you (not to b confused with "as long as ur attractive")" and every statement is accurate. If u didn't specifically ask ho2 to get laid, women r always referring to how to find a wife
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 02:23 AM
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Dad is actually more lenient than I am, but mistakes build character and resilience. It would b great if kids listened to parents and avoided pitfalls and consequences, but would it b fruitful. Some people have to touch fire, they must learn thru experience and I prefer that my children make the worst mistakes of their lives before they leave the nest and can b held legally or financially responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 02:18 AM
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An handsome, kind, hermit that doesn't interact with any human unless he's compensated for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 02:14 AM
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Have you seen women regret nit marrying their best sexual conquest or even acknowledge him as a fully functional human being?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 01:32 AM
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I've never experienced those relationships being mutually exclusive. The men I've loved were both
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 02:30 AM
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Gangliness
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 03:36 AM
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How come guys never notice that half of DB posts r from women about their husbands/boyfriends. Literally 5 of the first 10 threads
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:50 PM
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men do have more chances to get into welfare, why don't the apply? The same reason men don't file for divorce; they're averse to detailing failures, challenges, and the most unsavory parts of their relationship a d situation to complete strangers, repeatedly, and facing scrutiny offering unwarranted explanations
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 09:16 PM
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I don't know that fat women typically go after low hanging fruit, but it's more likely that her attraction metrics r more varied due to her own physical and social imperfections.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 11:39 PM
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I've mainly seen the term used for married or n relationship celebrities or guys that make comments n support of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 11:03 PM
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Being a virgin could indicate that ur honorable, disciplined, righteous, cautious. Or it could mean that ur timid, squeamish, passive, frigid, and judgemental. Outside of an intimate relationship, the listener has no idea what ur motivations or challenges are but they're going to perceive u based on their own beliefs and how u physically and socially present. It's better left unsaid outside if romantic partners, or at the very least, phrased to distinguish ur sexual choices from ur identity "Im …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 07:29 AM
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I agree with this, but I don't see it as a bad thing. Some people r insecure, low self worth, mental illness, attachment problems etc but if they find a strategy that works to get the love, affirmation, or validation that makes them happy then more power to them. Most of us r f'd up, few will "heal," people that figure life out r doing well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 02:32 AM
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I've always found the criticisms of Simps interesting because they seem to always have the woman and relationship that they want whether it's socially acceptable to the public or not. Men will listen to n Incel or Playboy who cant get or keep a woman even with $$ rather than Simps with beautiful wives, families, and mistresses. It's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 02:24 AM
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People r pretty comfortable doing illegal things routinely if they're self serving and pleasurable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 07:09 PM
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Do guys just walk around with a checklist looking for metrics that support probability of success? It's totally common and normal for two people to meet n the wild, sometimes one or both of them has a child, yet they still connect, fall n love, and build an imperfect life together. There is no good reason, he just likes/loves the woman and wants to continue with her and her kids and nothing stops him from doing what he wants
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 10:12 PM
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Got sex or got the entirety of the relationship that u desire including reciprocated effort? I can't imagine how you would know the desires and efforts of either party of a relationship you weren't involved in. It's all projection
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 10:07 PM
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“you're paying a premium for something some other guy will get at a discount.” This is such a weird and wrong statement. I once dated a guy that would lament "pu**y is easier to get than a sandwich." Just because some other guy got sex, doesn't mean he got care, loyalty, consideration, effort, partnership, help, support, or any of the the immeasurable benefits of a loving union. Such a shortsighted perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 07:00 PM
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Women not giving the most or best effort ≠ women giving no effort. You can choose to set the standard and expect/enforce reciprocation to ur liking .
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 06:51 PM
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you realize they offer very little Skill issue. That is an entire accomplished, functional human being with an abundance of the emotional, spiritual, and physical qualities u lack that is intentionally there to serve u as teammate. If u can't benefit, that has to b incredibly intentional.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 06:48 PM
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Trying to get a woman is a rigged game that you don't wanna play I agree, but adding joy to the woman u have is imperative
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 06:44 PM
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Does feeling like a hero and successfully pulling off a grand gesture not produce a sense of accomplishment and overall feeling of joy and satisfaction for the guy? My colleagues and I were discussing how n the past we would have to camp out at stores after Thanksgiving dinner to get that ones special toy for our kid during Black Friday madness and how we miss the rush, the satisfaction, the excitement! All to ultimately b played with for a few days and discarded. But it was so worth it! Id assu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 06:43 PM
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, we all know Leonardo Di'Caprio MO when it comes to dating at this point. Yet young women keep lining up because he's achieved what they desire, so they'll take the risk. Do u think he's leaving young women brokenhearted. Im pretty sure these types of scenarios r gigs wit potential to go long term as much as the are relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 04:08 PM
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I suspect the alcohol / drugs is more to get thru the awkwardness of small talk / meeting/ flirting than the actual sex or emotions surrounding it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:25 AM
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Love, time, attachment, blending lives, fri3nds, family and finances together
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 10:06 PM
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The problem is that even self-reported submissive men can b very demanding and often view their partners as kink dispensers as much as humans. I've yet to find a Female Led Relationship or Domme/sub relationship dynamic with passive aggression and power struggle
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 04:26 PM
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Do u trade in your car every time u see a nicer one? Relocate whenever u enjoy a vacation? Women r offered sex and attention and incentives from hotter guys literally all the time; if they choose to commit and they're not a cheater then their history, options, or behavior as a single person isnt relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 04:17 PM
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Well behaved people aren't impactful.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 03:24 AM
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Yor date may have been looking for a place to stay as much (if not more than) she was looking for a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 09:38 PM
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Irrelevant, abundance of options is a hindrance to finding what's for you. Everyone is attractive and attracted to someone; they just have to find the point where they connect.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 04:26 PM
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People r romantically and sexually attracted to different aspects of different people. What one finds repulsive, other's find enticing. That goes for everything under the sun.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 04:15 PM
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U think a 52yo woman with a paid off mortgage & grandchildren desires an Alphabux? Is he attractive, attentive, moderately handy, and domestic becomes the bar; not because of low standards, but relevant standards... just like hot, fun, romantic was relevant n 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 04:05 AM
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You believe this as a woman? Do u know a selection of high n and older women personally?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 02:27 AM
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You'd rather your friend b alone than happy with the woman he loves because she knows her way around a penis and likes to have a good time? Would u rather people that move into historical homes and cool old buildings b homeless, since other people lived there first?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 09:35 PM
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Only modern men r neurotic about options. Finding your 1 person is the optimal goal for everyone. Wherher they get there by choice or circumstance has little bearing on the outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 09:28 PM
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A man that has any type of selection will likely choose a woman that isn't sleeping around. Currently sleeping around is unrelated to N count. A woman could go crazy n college, then b n a stable, committed relationship for 4 years or whatever; thats actually the more realistic scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 09:20 PM
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I do don't know a single woman who has ever cared enough to articulate a preference; just not too small to feel. My cousin said he has a micropenis and has a harem of beautiful women who were loving and regarded him highly even after he passed away. Idk what this is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 10:41 PM
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None of that is new, it's a consistent formula with the expectation that the man will vocalize and enforce his needs and desires being consistently fulfilled by the woman he selected for that purpose. For some reason men have reduced their needs to sex and silence but still expect some level of performance they won't vett for
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 02:34 AM
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Women r very chaotic and self-centered by nature plus heartbreak and loss are inevitable in dating and relationships for everyone; that was always well understood until modern times when social media convinced everyone that difficulty/challenge = catastrophic
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 12:24 AM
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I think most men r too risk-averse, passive, neurotic, propagandized, self-sabotaging and testosterone deficient to date/marry n the modern world.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 11:47 PM
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Why do u need people who don't share your values to validate them. Nobody has a problem with men who prefer low count women, the problem is the fantasies, projections, correlations, and lies attributed to high count women. Also rather tha. Leave them alone, many men will gleefully express that they're for recreational use thus invalidate his entire value system and intentionally harming and misleading women while judging them as if ur morally superior
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 09:13 PM
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Right. The flaw n his logic is that it doesn't change desire, just priority. So women will quickly and eagerly marry a beta provider so she can recklessly sleep with Alphas. And n this scenario all of Alphas babies r legally and financially betas responsibility since she was urged to marry and cant abort. How this is better than "she loves, respects, and is committed to me but hooked up with Chad 8 years ago" we'll never understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 09:06 PM
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Adapt = back alley abortions, chemical o erdose, using herbs and street drugs, black market birth control etc Drugs r illegal but not inaccessible, y would risky sex b different
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 08:58 PM
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Dependable, "Beta" provider men are as valuable today as they've always been. Y would women being more destitute change wheter men r willing to capitalize on their strengths vs resent them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 08:55 PM
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You don't hear men in this situation stop wanting sex with her Men say that providers r entitled to mistresses all the time; juat because they're still willing to jave sex with wife doesn't men he desires her, is attuned, and is willing to seduce her adequately.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 05:04 PM
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How do u know that and y would u think a woman can only attract 1 tall man?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 08:43 PM
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How do u know that they're not attracted to his height but dating him because they enjoy him n spite of his loser qualities
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 08:42 PM
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You (a logical man) like to travel and party, but will intentionally select wifeto spend the rest of your life with based on her not traveling and partying?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 04:55 PM
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For most humans, regardless of gender
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 04:48 PM
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Interesting, what reaction are you looking for? My guy is pretty well endowed and I don't recall giving him a gasp, compliment, or applause. Guys r way more impressed than women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 01:45 AM
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What does that havve to do with men's sympathy? R they tagging random men? Ill offer it abundantly and they don't have to give me sexual favors for my concern
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/25 07:47 AM
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Where do yall get that "Top Men" are aloof and uninterested. Men that have positive experiences with women enjoy their company and energy and wa t to see their giddy smiling faces. Everything that men call simping is what desirable men enjoy doing thus keeping a constant flow of eager women competing for his attention and benefits
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 09:31 PM
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The difference between finding someone attractive and being attracted to someone. The latter doesn't require that a person be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 11:55 PM
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The offense is found in the intent of the question. If its getting to know me then we can discuss experiences; if its to decide what category i fit in then I'd prefer u assume the worst case scenario and take ur exit. Both romantic and sexual history are personal and r often weaponized without full context.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 11:14 PM
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Of course not; unattractive people do not get to access "pretty privilege." Man or woman, personality, provision, sexual prowess, body or status will have to supplement what we lack n looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 11:00 PM
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Unattractive men with good personalities get dates, sex, and marriage all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 10:48 PM
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modern women are not good human beings. They continually insult your intelligence & think a successful fit childless man should settle down with a fat over the hill post Wall single Mom. So, are modern men n this sub also "not good humans" since they think a successful, fit childless woman should ignore the confident, attractive men that pursue her and casually have sex with socially inept guys who openly judge and quietly resent her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 10:45 PM
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Fuck buddies definitely make store runs together; and married couples often start as fwb
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 12:46 AM
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You will never hear a man say "I can fuck hot girls quickly, but with average looking girls, I require a lot more time and effort from them before fucking them" You've never listened to a male podcast. They all say marry a 6-8 or below because the 9's and 10's r too high maintenance and won't do ×××. Thats literally saying that men have higher standards for less attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 12:44 AM
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Your friends tell you about their wives sexual past?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 12:40 AM
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Those men are often non-monagamous; that's not desirable for marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/25 12:36 AM
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The weird thing is that u believe women like mom and grandma were different rather than modern media showing a different perspective. A hoepocalypse that's really just a peek behind the curtain of women's sexuality that men previously were ignorant about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 06:36 PM
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So there's no room for grace, acceptance, or unconditional positive regard when you're accountable? Y would humans choose to operate that way when we can just support others and compliment them n areas where we're strong and they're weak
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 06:30 PM
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A promiscuous single woman without children that decides to do OnlyFans with the support or indifference of her parens should b accountable how, and to who?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/25 06:26 PM
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Is the sex different? Im not understanding the problem if the sex is the same and the treatment is enthusiastic, generous, and respectful?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/25 12:40 AM
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it's your field, every normal person had fun during college years. This is what young people do, they get drunk, go partying, have sex, date without thinking of marriage, etc This may describe maybe 200 - 500 students of a school 20k+. That lifestyle is mostly familiar faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 09:50 PM
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And Ive actually gone out with a few of these women and declined further outings after I find these things out. How is that different than going out with a "bad boy" and declining further offerings once she finds out his actions/intentions toward her? Not arguing your preference, just this Red Pilled "logic"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 07:37 PM
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Friendzone is overly anxious, neurotic, overthinkers. They watch, wait, and ruminate until the girl gets with another guy to make a super vauge move "before it's too late"; then villanize her if she doesn't drop her existing relationship and cheat with him because he's obviously the better guy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 02:43 AM
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No relationship can last when partners choose to leave rather than confront, counsel, teach, model, and demonstrate. Lots of bad behaviors persist because they go unchecked for so long they become habits
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 02:38 AM
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Or refusing to stand up for yourself or set boundaries yet expecting your emotional needs to be met from this person who's clueless to ur internal monolog
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 01:47 AM
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How is ending a sexual relationship with Chad different from drifting apart from some guy u dated for a few months? They all end until one doesn't; y exclude only the desirable guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 10:50 PM
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She doesn't expect submission, deference, or the title and mantle of Leader.
/r/MensRights30/09/25 07:34 PM
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Hookup material is absolutely conditional on right look, right time, right words, minimal awkwardness, vib4s, comfort, etc; he has to keep being sexy, fun, seductive, and/or spending. All exponentially difficult traits to have and maintain according to Reddit, Incels, and men below the top 20%
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 06:20 PM
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Sure. All necessary parts of adult family life and financial planning.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 05:37 PM
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"I usually don't date big girls, but when I finally gave my (fat) girlfriend a chance, I knew she'd be my wife" is the equivalent. And while annoying enough to get an eyeroll; its not some humiliating fate to adjust your worldview about. Some people need to be experienced to appreciate. Aquired taste.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 05:30 PM
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Because her desire is tangible and concrete rather than fleeting and deceptive, interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 05:23 PM
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It sounds like we're n agreement; women ultimately move on from that type because those issues r internal and need to be addressed within the man himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 05:18 PM
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Boldly telling actual woman not only about our feelings, but our actual lived experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 05:15 PM
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If he's laid back and live-and-let-live This is a far more desirable guy than Chad or Alpha. This is typically the reality of a woman's past that men project the imaginary Bad Boy/Chad onto. Just some young, fun, cute idiot who goes with the flow and never makes any real decisions or commitments
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:46 PM
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Life has to humble her into leaving the bad boy How does ending a relationship with a "bad" person = "life humbling her." Wouldn't humbling make standards lower, not higher. Like I wasn't humbled from driving my little 2 door forcing me to get an SUV; my tastes, lifestyle, and needs changed like every other adult. Do people move from their first crappy apartment because life humbled them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 04:30 PM
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It sounds like they're describing insecurity, which isn't a bad thing, its a human thing. I can't imagine women want to be with men who don't find her desirable for whatever reason, being tethered to restrained resentment sounds like a nightmare
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 03:47 PM
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Y do u thi k baggage is so harmful to connection; it adds complexity and interest to the people n the relationship and builds compassion and acceptance for many
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 01:33 PM
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This is exactly y those women pass up a certain type of "good guys." Spontaneous, adventure, recklessness makes for amazing memories and a well-rounded person. Every human alive has baggage.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 01:21 PM
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Because he met her, liked her. And wants to pursue things further. Most people start with connection and develop from there. Life expectancy is upwards of 70 years, y would u make a lifetime decision based on the 1st 10 years of adulthood. It's a choice, a ridiculous choice
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 01:13 PM
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Was "good guy" also having fun n his youth? Isn't that what youth is for. Im not seeing the problem; would he rather her ruin his stability with fun or he wants no fun for anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 10:02 PM
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This is relevant to our current dating landscape. The Kings whore has nothing preventing her from dating and loving the peasant, she can get the best of both worlds. The peasants wife should not date, and cannot marry the King.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 09:27 PM
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Or, an impulsive, neurotic, party girl with questionable attachments and minimal responsibilities lives a completely different lifestyle from a stable, focused "good guy" until she grows up, ages out of the party scene, has a kid, career, responsibilities, stability and does exactly what she did when she was younger....date her peer (who is now the stable good guy). Y do men want women against their will so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 09:16 PM
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I would interpret never asking for sex as not finding me sexually attractive enough to b interested and place this guy n the friendzone after a few dates. If he waits too long it becomes awkward. There's a fine line between being appropriately respectful and off-puttingly passive. I think single men should always present themselves as virile, sexual, charmers: u look hot vs ur pretty; o yea, green is definitely ur color 👀 vs i like ur dress; lunch will b a good start for us vs id like to take u …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 09:07 PM
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R men suffering from lack of self-awareness? Is there an assumption that the "highest setting" Chad doesn't gain weight, go bald, experience ED, struggle with Child Support/coparenting/Alimony/job loss/ mid-life crisis. Y the assumption that women r incapable instead of mutual growth or mutual decline
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 08:56 PM
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Are women dating the same terrible men; or do they have the same terrible complaints about dating desirable men? We tend to describe a non-monagamous man dating multiple women as terrible. An attractive misogynist that dates without changing his core beliefs as terrible. A lot of catastrophizing logical poor outcomes of poor dating decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 06:11 PM
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If u recognize patterns through the lens of neuroticism; everything will confirm your fears and negative expectations. You'll even rationalize y positive scenarios r exceptions or deceiving. Lots of guys here do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 02:58 AM
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Evil? I've never seen that. Childish, counterproductive, and self sabotaging? Definitely
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 02:25 AM
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Chemistry, personality, and tingles don't translate online.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 09:08 PM
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A romantic roommate that has sex with u and loves to cuddle sounds awesome! But seriously, not all men r selfish and incompetent; I actually don't know any that function the way the wives I see online complain about. Those women r often neurotic and controlling and freak out if their husbands dont do exactly whats told their own specific way so the men rightfully let them do everything themselves. Plenty of men do daycare pickups, Dr visits (my dad was always the parent to take days off), cook, …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 01:25 AM
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spreading their legs for domestic abusers and rapists because they made them wet. So u have the solution "make them wet" yet u refuse while using the term "unfair" for ur choice not to b seductive?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 12:02 AM
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I care about the role being filled. Even when I care about their freedom and they not being forced it is not about them as a person. It is about what I consider right. Rather than making society unfair for the likely equally challenged people that u deem privileged; y not just incentivise connection with factors that u can control like money, simping, dating undesirable/disabled/ reformed/ unattractive, etc. Seems u want to punish others for doing exactly what ur doing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 11:59 PM
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Do you have examples of how Kings r treated n reality and what's required of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 11:24 PM
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This isn't gaslighting. The Chad's n our lives weren't the great loves that broke our hearts, Chad wasn't the best sex nor the guy we desired or experimented with most. Women (no matter how "low value") who've hooked up with the hottest guy ever (and sometimesthe richest), leave with a sexy story at best. It's not an impactful experience that leaves some new standard; actually, it reinforces that attraction is less important ; but guys convince themselves this is cope and were all lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 01:55 PM
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For some reason this is men's understanding of Fucbois, but not women's experience. There's a difference between F these btxhs, I pump and dump them vs I loooove women, I cant get enough, I want them all. Fucbois at least behave more like the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 01:40 PM
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There's no contradiction mentioned here and all things men tend to insist on rather than requirements. If men sought egalitarian relationships, these wouldn't b concerns, but you've described Leadership, the hardest role
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 12:45 AM
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making Bob jump through hoops and monkey dance compared to Pookie, she has many guy "besties," she has 10 other men lined up, when she is on a date, she is waiting for Ray-Ray to call, she has 100 men in her inbox ready to replace Basic Bob's sorry @ss, she is too "body positive" compared to Bob's body, and/or she is still hung up on Glocktavious. This sounds like a lot of guys "dancing" and the 1 guy, Bob, that adamantly refuses to do anything is also the one that doesn't understand y he gets t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 11:24 PM
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I’m telling you 4’s & 5’s rather hookup with me KNOWING I’m NOT gonna give them love instead of being with a man who’s a 4 or a 5 giving them love. As a woman; those two scenarios r completely unrelated. Hookups go on the shelf when love/relationships are offered with guys we like beyond superficial. Now if 4 or 5 gwt disgusted or discouraged because of the hookup that's a different issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 11:09 PM
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Relationship dynamics and challenges r my favorite topic regardless of my personal status
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 04:34 PM
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Why is looks a better superficial quality to be attracted to than money. I guarantee most handsome guy's sex lives r pretty on par with gys who spend money.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 02:22 AM
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Right. How does this analogy work with homes; because I definitely could've bought a new build for less than my 70yo home; but the wear showed character, the landscaping showed uniqueness, Im fascinated that lives took place here, families were built, the changes it stood through. How solid its built...same with guys. I like obvious emotional and physical signs of wear and tear. Some guys can't wait to restore and ride their classic cars. They live for it (they feel the same about the women they…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 02:17 AM
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But finding a man attractive doesn't mean we are attracted to him. Also, women r often attracted to unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 02:09 AM
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Myself and most of my colleagues prefer "Househusbands" or men who take the bulk of domestic duties and perhaps keep freelance or contract work to support their own luxuries. Date professional women who enjoy their careers and have no desire to leave. Single moms who need help, leadership, and aren't done building their families. Set boundaries, enforce respect, and be intentional about learning effective communication to avoid any Boss B horror stories. Nobody wants a useless man; but leaving t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 06:11 PM
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Not necessarily; women r typically insecure about sex and their bodies and how they look n certain positions, etc, no matter how fit or attractive until they mature. It's one of the reasons we r more liberal with guys we don't respect or care about when younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 09:58 PM
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I guess, not exact replicas. But so many guys rarely engage with women to know if they like them or not and when they meet a woman who potentially wants them,they talk themselves out of it or put her down (Beta, settling, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:48 PM
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Many are Elliot Rodgers', claiming that women reject him when he never encountered them. Too much pessimistic, self-defeating, black & white thinking to assess desirability.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:29 PM
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So r these guys victims of "women are wonderful " effect? Do they realize the girl they're want to pick them may do party drugs occasionally, have wreckless sex, make bad decisions, and pursue adventure over stability for a while. Y is it ok for good guy to overlook the girls badness but she cant overlook bad boys?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 01:11 AM
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Do u think the girls on yachts, at parties in VIPs, and being flown out are dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 07:31 PM
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What was her response, did she end up with the guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 07:21 PM
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100%; women are also mor naturally rebellious and don't listen to each other or respect other peoples opinions. Who's more likely to date a person that doesn't fit in with their family or friend group, men or women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 07:20 PM
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So then wouldn't the resource guy that women ultimately go with be the Alpha? The other guys are dancing monkeys for temporary entertainment and validation, while the Resource guy just exists with what he brings to the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 07:17 PM
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So cougars are known for mundane, nonadventurous sex? Most women gain self-confidence, body positivity, and sexual charisma with age and experience that we lacked in our young and wild days, which makes for far better sex for us and our partners. Plus, if a woman ever enjoyed a high libido active sex life; shes not going to choose a beta who doesn't turn her on regardless of his resources because she actually likes sex. Yall r conflating the low libido, low body count "wife material " that guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 06:22 PM
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Are single moms typically prude?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 06:11 PM
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How is it that these same men view Players and Womanizers as Alpha/Chad and cuckoldry is pretty much an unspoken truth of non-committal men dating attractive women. Stepdads have literally conquered babydaddies, they took his home, woman, and children; the logic in this very new thought process is ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 06:10 PM
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How are his own wife and stepchildren not members of his own family?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 06:05 PM
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Why, her needs were completely different in her youth; stability had no value and dad characteristics r a turnoff when u move away fro. Your actual dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 06:02 PM
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Women complaining is just processing feelings out loud; not a call to action or something to form opinions from
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 12:45 AM
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if she is willing to sleep with other guys early but not him. Why the assumption that she was unwilling rather than he just failed to close the deal. I've gone on dates fully prepared to see where things go, and they go nowhere. My relationship now, I planned and was intentional about waiting, and we ended up hooking up 1st date.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 09:42 PM
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Becoming a woman's slave to get what a sexually attractive man got behind a stinking garbage dumpster 10 mins after meeting her, is humiliating Ur making her point. Sex guy went after sex and got it. "Beta" claims he wants a relationship with the woman, sets the foundation for carefully building connection through time, compatibility, etc; then whines that Sex guy who boldly presented a package Beta doesn't have took a risk Beta wasn't willing, able, or comfortable with, got a "reward (yuck)" th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 06:34 PM
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Formally date if u enjoy dating; theres no reward or purpose other than hanging out with a person ur interested in getting to know romantically. Nobody does" nothing" to get sex; even if it's right place, right time, right look, right vibe there was a series of effort and choices to get there
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 02:15 AM
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I suspect it's more like Goldilocks looking for "just right."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:28 AM
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I didn't suggest women were proud of or validated by hooking up with younger guys; I said perhaps they enjoy it. Like a guilty pleasure, a vice, a treat, a mutually simple pleasurable experience. Once women have experienced marriage and kids; relationships no longer have to be building blocks to a future together, its ok to just have a good time together for days or decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 07:07 AM
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Or they enjoy hooking up without the expectation of carrgiving
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:05 AM
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So, the logic here is that women (who supposedly divorce at astronomical rates due to feeling frustrated, unloved, undesired) would prefer to force men who would otherwise desire a younger woman to b stuck with us over 40's against their will because they lack options? Does this align with everything u know and believe about women? That we prefer to b begrugingly settled for? 90yo women have men, 50yo women have men available, there is never a time when women r n the dating market with no option…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 02:59 AM
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If dating is a game, cold approach always nets more points than otherwise. The audacity alone is disarming, and the confidence is intriguing; just get in and out exchanging info as quickly as possible. Your milage may vary. Also, a meeting in September may not payoff until April, it's a numbers game, don't put so mich stock on meetings and dates until exclusivity is agreed upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 01:11 AM
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“Man, I’ve really matured past reading books or hitting the gym.” People certainly wake up at 38 and say "I need to get back to reading books or hitting the gym" because life happens, priorities change, interests change, a zest for adventure becomes a quest for peace, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 03:14 AM
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Because women don't suddenly develop a desire or appreciation for stable parental qualities the minute they flee the confines of their childhood home. They want romance, freedom, and fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 03:06 AM
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My daughter is 8 and is already starting to think she can get out of trouble because she’s cute. She can get out trouble because she's cute, y would u surpress her power rather than just fairly hold her accountable and encourage good character as well as superficial beauty. It's Dash's story n the Incredibles
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 05:11 PM
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Its already proven by studies that it can lead to increased anxiety, depression, and lower self-esteem. Not proven, correlated. And sex is just as likely to b a symptom than a cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 07:33 PM
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Men used to grow up believing it'd be a given. Of course, you'd have sex and date around, maybe "sow your wild oats" a little bit even if you wanted to. There was no assumption that she'd be a 5+, with no children, highly arousable with low body count that willingly wants to marry a 30+yo M but can stay home or help with income depending on what lifestyle is currently in fashion. Nor did anyone set the expectation that a woman past high school are marrying their 1st choice and treating him like …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 07:24 PM
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No person should be a predator; but like a predator, it's more helpful to use " physical and behavioral adaptations... while also adapting their technique to avoid injury"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 05:38 PM
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When and what is this idea based on?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 05:23 PM
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Sex is a "reward" for successful seduction with no regard to behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 05:18 PM
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Is it "normal" to categorize humans as good or bad? Every person alive has both good and bad qualities, so what distinguishes one from the other? This level of self-righteousness is an ick, btw
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 05:17 PM
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It's just funny for me how girls can sense desperation of fake niceness, but then got with a guy with room temperature iq who drinks and beats her every night. One guy is intentionally seducing/persuading her like a predator hunting prey while the other is likely passively and hopefully hovering, hoping for an outcome he won't request.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 05:14 PM
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i can not believe this has to be said to people... That's because it doesn't need to b said. My grocery budget, clothing, doctor, mirror, and bones keep me alerted on my limits and when I need to power up. I have no issue getting my expectations met.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 12:18 AM
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Is he incapable of returning for 2nds or having a FWB? Lol, the stuff yall come up with
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 11:35 PM
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It's less strategy and more happenstance. Some guys genuinely enjoy hanging out, dating, and loving the woman/women that they're having sex with. Listening to men online u'd think it was a crazy concept but IME and observation it's far more common than 1 night stands/pump n dump scenarios PPD dreams up
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 11:29 PM
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Many women are non-committal or commitment phobic. It's not socially acceptable, so they mask it by repeatedly dating non-monagamous guys, whether consciously or not. This isn't a large sample of women and doesn't reflect the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 11:25 PM
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I think women r much better (and prone) to self-delusion than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 02:05 PM
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Did the woman in Genghis Khans harem have choice? The ability to prevent them from being murdered (not sure that's technically innate, aquired I guess)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:41 AM
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It's interesting that men see their status, money, fame as the qualities that attract women instead of these guys attracting status, money, fame, and women because of their innate and aquired qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 09:51 PM
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Ravenous. Insatiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 08:27 PM
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Seems like men have the advantage then. We cant really change our core; men can always do more
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 11:59 PM
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Perhaps I don't deserve the treatment I want, but I don't c the relevance if Im actually getting it. Plus, Im willing to adjust or incentivise to make it happen, and it serves me well. I could just whine and complain about what the next chick gets with less effort, but it's not a good look or a winning strategy. I choose to focus on my feelings and desires without measuring against projections of strangers' relationships and ghosts of pu**y past.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 11:58 PM
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Sure. Fair enough. It's just expressed as self-defeating negative self-talk from men who already struggle
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 11:44 PM
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I wouldn't know; but Im as sub-whatever as a woman can get so it likely doesn't matter
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 11:43 PM
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U post to flex? Its an example of Chad and Stacy (an athlete and beauty queen). Do u have an example that everyone is aware of? It would further the conversation better than a random insult. Or is being unnecessarily cantankerous goal
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 09:43 PM
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I could say how my Bro in Law is as Chad as it gets and is now a Passport Bro after his 3rd divorce. But without knowing or seeing him, it doesn't hit the same; gotta use celebrities. He can get easy sex, sometimes love, even money; but he can't get respect, loyalty, devotion, or even consistent good treatment. He's a novelty that wears off pretty quickly. "Chad" typically is, but guys' fantasies rarely account for that reality. A lonely, pathetic existence wrapped n machismo and hypersexuality …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 09:17 PM
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Yes. As I stated I don't expect Stacy (or Becky) treatment. How I want my man to adore me is completely personal to me, and whether I qualify or not has nothing to do with my demand for my relationship to satisfy and fufill me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 09:07 PM
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"Healthy," fit men suffer from stroke, heart attack, cancer often. They mistake physical fitness and BMI with actual health. Many are averse or untrusting of healthcare and unnecessarily suffer from hidden chronic illnesses
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 08:59 PM
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100% agree
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 07:45 PM
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That's the point. Were on Reddit, not some millionaires yacht. Women don’t typically expect or even desire Stacy treatment. Don’t even consider it, honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 07:24 PM
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Tingles r extremely important to women and an incredibly difficult skill to learn. Being treated amazingly well without tingles is what best friends do. Y would Chads looks, tingles, charisma b discredited but another guys money, loyalty (can it b called that with limited options) be considered? Chad is doing something different, not less. There's always a tradeoff. What do men think happens to Chad as he ages. Are Tom Brady, Shannon Sharp, and Brad Pitt not Chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 06:12 PM
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Black and white thinking is so limiting when dealing with human relations. Nobody wants to give or receive pity sex. Women also want an enjoyable sex life with their husbands. Not burning with passion at every moment for decades doesn't mean I don't have a strong sexual desire for the man I love.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:20 PM
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🤣🤣🤣🤣 omg
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:15 PM
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Yes. Am I ripping ur clothes off when u walk n the door if Im not organically aroused, probably not. Will I love, cherish, respect u and consistently initiate sex and try to maintain a healthy sex life; of course. Everything else is probably even and Id wager that Chad gets divorced more often
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:14 PM
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I don't get it; if Chad is less of a provider but an incredible lover, is hilarious, and treats me well. And Bob is ok looking, a good lover, but a wonderful provider that adores me. The standard is the same, just different metrics. One has to do more, the other has to be more but both have pros and cons. That's exactly how men date, everyone does, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:10 PM
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Im a fat woman. Idk how Stacy is treated. I know that I want to b adored, admired, and spoiled; if im not getting that treatment, I'll pass. "Deserve" doesn't enter my thought process. Do it or don't, but if u won't, then move along. I encourage guys to adapt a similar mentality if they find themselves consistently wanting
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:04 PM
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Maximum Horniness isn't an important metric for long term relationships. U can totally have an enjoyable, consistent sex life just finding ur partner attractive and arousing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:58 PM
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An example of 2 types of guys who spark attraction differently. But yes, many men don't look at their wives eroticly/ intensely
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:57 PM
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There's legit posts I read on here that try to make out as if a man who is 5ft5 and overweight is somehow on similar footing as a guy who is 6ft2 and shredded. It just came out this week that while Halle Berry proposed to David Justice, he couldn't even get her to cook him a meal, clean, or b nurturing. Women don’t "treat Chad better." The fk him easier and use him differently. Perhaps Chad can cast a wider net to choose who treats him the way he wants, but women typically show up and behave as …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:54 PM
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If Ronaldo looks at her and sends Shockwaves thru her body, but ur still nervous about making eye contact and barely touch how would the response b the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:46 PM
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settle down with less attractive men that they don't like? That's actually torture that women would rather not sign up for. Being less horny for Bob the socially awkward guy from Accounting than we are for that hot Running Back that we met on the beach that time doesn't mean we don't like/love/want Bob or that we want to give RB another romp
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:43 PM
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I don't even know who/what a Stacy is. Cassie? Taylor Swift? Sugarbabies? Housewives? Women don’t really compare n that way; we're actually realistic enough to understand their are costs and benefits and settle accordingly
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 04:38 PM
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Rather that sleep with the girls u were dating or the hot girl that were interested in you or hot sluts; u decided to sleep with obese women not from curiosity or attraction...why
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 01:30 PM
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Desires ≠ rules or requirements
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 05:59 AM
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But he could just move on like a normal person and not give her any attention rather than end the fake friendship, with a smug passive aggressive entitled attitude and talk crap about her
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 02:01 AM
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Desire isn't the way to reciprocate niceness. It's just being nice back to the guy u still aren't interested in
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 01:51 AM
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Alice kicking Bob in the balls is an unprovoked, unnecessary act of aggression. But women can't date or sleep with every interested nice guy in our orbit; and if their interest in each other doesn't match both are equally responsible for communicating that and acting accordingly or ignoring their intentions and dealing with the fallout
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 01:49 AM
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Right! When was dating/marriage not totally a business transaction? Sometimes with actual brokers
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 12:15 AM
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He probably just enjoys women. It makes a huge difference if a guy not only desires women but genuinely enjoys our essence, company, affection, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 07:34 PM
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Unconditional love is a childish fairy tale. Love is only 1 aspect of a relationship. Trust, loyalty, fidelity, shared vision, and reciprocity all have conditions. If u find yourself loving your spouse without condition, look inward to determine why you lack standards and boundaries
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:14 PM
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If I go online shopping for a black dress; that doesn't mean I find blue jeans undesirable. Thats how online dating works (for women), it's shopping... most likely for something specific (tall, attractive, fun), unavailable, inaccessible, or inconvenient; it has nothing to do with overall desire or preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 12:55 AM
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That sounds just right, actually. Bigger is a novelty, but often too painful for pleasure and will end up with a dead bedroom once novelty wears off and lady problems get tiresome.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 01:21 AM
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I've observed lesbians to appreciate and sometimes encourage their woman's overt sexuality wheras men seek to mold, control, and posess it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 05:01 AM
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So women r supposedly for 80% of divorces feom their husbands that they loved and committed to, but its unbelievable that they they would walk away from a random hookup or some fuy they dated for a minute? Is this that male logic we keep hearing about?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:52 AM
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Yes, and they're not defensive about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 08:00 PM
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Women specifically cite their preference for taller men "to make (them) "feel" more secure
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 07:38 PM
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"Single by choice" for women refers to tjere being some tangible guy pining after her that she assumes she could marrybif she wanted, or her track record of getting commitment from the wrong guys, but choosing to remain unmarried pending the right offer or circumstances
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:35 PM
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Why shouldn't ur reputation reflect ur authentic self?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:13 AM
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they love people and hanging just to spend time together. The thing is, we don't always love it. Friends, family, and expectations can get quite burdensome. But that's how relationships are nurtured, how community is built, and how we're exposed to reality that contradicts our algorithms
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 09:31 PM
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Whybisbshe wrong for using targeted marketing and advertising her business on her most successful platform. Don't all athletes, entertainers, and laborers use their body for profit?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 08:08 PM
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So, the only people who hate age gap relationships are the women who've actually experienced them, male peers who know the male psyche and see thwir selection being taken from the dating pool nefariously, and fathers who r both older and invested who know their daughters need protecting? TLDR: the only people who have a problem r people who actually have a reason to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 11:22 PM
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Women are comically incentivized to divorce rape men— which is why 80% of divorces are filed by women. Y r u so confident that women r incentivised to divorce rather than women r pressured into unsustainable marriages?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 09:09 AM
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Find women attractive ≠ attracted to women. Same for Chads, HVM, and everyone else. This understanding should put a lot of dating dynamics n perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 08:22 PM
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His kids and grandkids already have the world on their shoulders and they don't even exist yet
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:01 AM
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Will they have careers, families, and lives of their own that could land them anywhere n the world as u age?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 04:00 AM
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That's putting a lot of pressure (and unmerited credit) on children. Kids are members of the family, not the cause, backbone, scapegoat, etc. They're no more valuable or meaningful than the single or couple that parents them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:57 AM
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Even without children; marriage is the joining of two families and all that entails. There is value in having a committed partner through lifes ups and downs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:51 AM
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Enjoy life, adventure, experiences, and challenges with a partner in the setting of mutual love and support.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:49 AM
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100%
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 12:14 AM
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Not needed. An emotional connection + commitment make the sexual experience better and more meaningful; but u can also have great sex with no connection beyond attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 07:36 PM
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Pre-marital career trajectory is factored into alimony awards
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:21 PM
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0.0223% chance of dying during childbirth OMG the world is falling There are many medical emergencies, disfiguring injuries, and life altering complications during childbirth to worry about besides death. Alimony is easily avoided by not marrying a do nothing btch
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:20 PM
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It's more of a challenge than a bonus, but not likely an incentive
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 01:44 AM
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Some people date to eliminate people, others date to find someone. Not all loving couples share ideologies. I know that my partner is misogynistic in theory, but not practice, so it's never been a big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 02:57 PM
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Desire ≠ entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:44 AM
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Perhaps these r her beliefs, but she likes you enough that she will break the rules. Men assume women only break rules for Chad when it's really for men that we genuinely like and have much more to offer beyond superficial
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 04:43 AM
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You guys place way more value and consequence on casual encounters than they actually warrant
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 11:37 PM
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Alimony is only awarded in 11% of divorces and those have a significant income gap... a stay at home spouse isn't expected to reenter the workforce at their premarital momentum with a huge gap n work history. It's a ridiculous ask. Also the entire could be avoided by intentionally dating wealth and career matched spouses. This is for either sex 3% of Alimony is awarded to men. There is no gender stipulation for welfare benefits other than WIC going only to pregnant women. These programs also sub…
/r/MensRights04/03/25 07:36 PM
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I look at it like the pimp to Pastor pipeline. RedPill is less a belief that they internlize and more a easier grift that they take advantage of. If u were always a meangirl, it's a natural fit. If ur an aging sex worker looking for a less labor intensive grift, go on a shame tour and RedPill will eat it up either to berate u or support u. If ur an unattractive plain jane, join RedPill n ranting against hoe culture, instant status.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 09:45 PM
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I believe dating apps r addictive and even if a match leads to "success" the swipe, select, connect will never end
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 08:37 PM
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Is 16 a reasonable age to allowing consenting teenagers to engage in unsafe sex? If not, what’s the solution? 16yo will have sex whether they're allowed or forbidden. They shouldn't be able or entrusted to make contraceptive decisions free from their parents' authority. (though I understand its law). When my daughter protested birth control, we literally had it out n the clinic until she consented; her online access and ability date or to hang out without parent supervision were severely limited…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 04:39 PM
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"Vibes," flirting, conversation, social proof, body language
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:14 PM
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Variety doesn't net positive sexual experiences for women. Multiple partners n a short period is physically uncomfortable. Seduction and connection make sexual experience better, and it makes more sense to continue with 1 guy we find sexually compatible than risk "wasting a body" with a new person if it won't lead to relationship. Women r socialized to avoid adding sexual partners, even if we're naturally polygamous. This also is the reasoning behind hookup vs husband material. Hookup has the si…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 05:17 PM
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Because I’m attractive enough myself to do this It sounds like ur saying your reality doesn't validate this claim. You may be attractive enough to have women sleep with you, but not commit, which PPD tells us is the only thing that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 04:31 PM
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Umm when did I say young? The last one was 47 Sry, completely unrelated, but I love that u acknowledged that post wall women have no problem juggling high-quality, high-value options that r interested n them beyond sex. This group seems to believe women expire and perish n regret after 35. Not my experience or observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 04:18 PM
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How do u suspect she's sustaining herself (shelter/bills/time/growth) before she meets u if not education/career? Are u expecting ex-wives or ex sugarbabies?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 03:27 PM
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Yes, savor the experience of a kid (and a partner) you may never see again. All relationships require vulnerability, that's what it looks like. I don't believe n karma; I'm speaking of optimism. We will all repeatedly get hurt and suffer loss throughout life and relationships. It's guaranteed. I choose to look forward to trying again until I get it right , serves me well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 01:26 AM
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Most relationships with people we love r finite, not necessarily a bad thing. Savor the experience and look forward to your efforts being reciprocated by the universe at some point
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 06:37 PM
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I've never heard of a single mom express anything remotely like that. Most single mom's only want men that r enthusiastically willing to steparent; otherwise, it's a disaster waiting to happen. Quite honestly, whether a man has kids or not has never factored into my dating criteria, I wanted a big family, the more the merrier, my partners have always been the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 06:14 PM
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But this notion is a projection. Women don’t value a hookup/situationship that was 70% sexual chemistry and 30% everything else over a relationship that's 30% sexual chemistry and 40% resources 20% compatibility and 10% friendship or whatever total package. If we like sex enough to hookup, we wouldn't marry a guy we don't desire sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:37 PM
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She didn't say that. She said she wouldn't hook up with him. That just means he's an acquired taste, like beer, beer is awesome many people desire and crave it, sometimes too much; but nobody took their first sip and thought "wow, this is delicious."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:29 PM
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So men want to marry every girl they desire sexually? Men don't sexually desire women they consider "wife material?" It's literally the exact same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:58 PM
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She wasn't wife material n her 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:56 PM
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Not a flex, evidence/ context
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 09:42 PM
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Women are more sexual than men now. How many pleasure devices do women have vs men?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 09:30 PM
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Right. Im wondering where guys got this idea. Even fairy tales like Beauty & the Beast or Shrek the guy has to simp tremendously hard to overcome what he lacks n attraction; the girl just has to show up alive and n need (not even that in Sleeping Beauty). That's reality. Homer Simpson, Peter Griffin, every sitcom with the hot/not trope has the guy being a romantic, supportive, submissive provider. Looks don't matter has never been a thing for women; "looks aren't everything, some girl will b hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 09:14 PM
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Most of what you see as women desiring men though is women desiring the benefits (financial, social or security) that they believe being connected to a man gives them. If that were the case, men would be interchangeable as long as women can extract something from them. "Nice guys and Simps" would reign supreme. Women's attraction is scaled on very different metrics of varying importance, unlike men. What a guy lacks n looks, he can make up for in validation; what he lacks in validation, he can m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 09:06 PM
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women's super charged hypergamy is only really facilitated by modern society. Reducing or eliminating hypergamy just takes us back to widespread Beta Buxxing; a strategy that every man is free to use right now. Still won't get the Chadsexual escapades that men dream about (mainly because it doesn't exist); men lashing out via voting against their own best interests seems like an emotion fueled tantrum (which Im sure contributes to their unattractiveness)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:43 PM
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Right. They love to talk about traditional women, but how often did traditional couples have hot, passionate, spontaneous sex initiated by the woman? Women like that initiate sex when they're aroused, not when a man is nice to them or committed to them. Sexually pious women require greater skill, effort, and commitment from men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:25 PM
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When n u look at what women actually do and who they actually date and marry then u realize most of our standards are irrelevant fantasies at best. To men's benefit if they can get past crippling insecurity
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 11:39 PM
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Clean , well groomed, and well fitted clothing is very attractive. Women will tolerate the opposite if the guy is exceptionally attractive otherwise; but good skin, hair, clothes and scent make a tremendous difference in attraction level
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:35 AM
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Do teen relationships typically have dead bedrooms? The chase lights the fire, the game keeps it burning.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:10 PM
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Address it medically, therapeutically, open the relationship (ethical non-monogamy), or divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 06:12 PM
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The hunting is more fun than kill. This guy gets it!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:11 PM
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Women would demand couples therapy and a list of requirements . Along with a ultimatum of divorce if things don’t change and soon . So, attempt to address the problem and explore solutions
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 02:15 PM
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Yes! Y get married if u will divorce before working towards solutions. If there is no solution, then divorce. Cheating is cowardly and will strain the relationship if they need to coparent later.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 02:12 PM
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Isn't it revealing how the brain jumps to "I must figure out how to punish her" instead of "I must figure out how to arouse her." Like he's still using energy and effort, but only negatively
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 02:34 AM
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If marriage has fidelity as a marital duty, then if it doesn't have sex as a marital duty it's a net scam to men and to people with higher libido That puts the responsibility on the high libido partner to vet for compatibility; not sure how that works with the ever popular Madonna-whore dichotomy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 02:30 AM
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America. Im a professional, but most of my female colleagues r married to blue collar workers
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:31 PM
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How do u know (or rather what gives u the authority) the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 06:53 PM
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dead bedroom me because she's not actually attracted to me. But a quick peek at DeadBedrooms or research shows lack of attraction isn't a common reason for a DB. Its kids, life, stress, medical, mental, behavior, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 06:44 PM
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Not the VP/ janitor or dad (late 30s). Everyone else was mid to late 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 06:16 PM
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It's probably an age thing like most relationship talk. If your husband builds u a she-shed or something cool for the kids or a backyard living space, you're the envy of mom groups. And yes, being romantic, handy, thoughtful, exiting, hot makes looks and money less important.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 06:07 PM
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A few. The last high school I worked in, the janitor had a wife, a teacher, and a Vice Principal. He was handsome and charming, maybe 5'5 at best. The female VP of one of the nation's largest health care systems where I worked married one of the janitors. My friends dad is a sanitation worker and we used to joke about him stinkin up women's beds all over town.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 05:58 PM
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which is why the dad would give money… And what happens when dad molested his daughters, was abusive, was drunk, disabled, or a gambler,? In a world without feminism, what is the fate of a girl from that family?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 12:46 PM
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even before feminism, traditionally poor women have worked Before feminism, underpayment for work went to dad or husband evenbif the womanwas estranged; women weren't (still aren't) paid fairly for the same work as men snd were barred for positions they were well qualified for. That's the reason for feminism; it doesn't center or counter men, it's solely about women having rights and opportunities
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 12:43 PM
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For the life of me I can't understand where this trope originated; I've never met a blue collar man that didn't have women and/or family regardless of looks or income. The only barrier for them is refusing to try again
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 11:02 PM
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Experience. I was always a shy, pretty, Straight A student from a good family; but I also liked to party, didn't shy away from petty crime, have questionable kinks, and like to experiment with drugs. I've always had "good guys" hovering with their projections based on surface attraction but my love life leaned more toward "bad boys" despite them being more Straight Edge than me and me being equally as toxic as them n my youth. The "good/bad" labels r mostly assumptions and projections. If people…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 07:09 PM
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They have low standards, low inhibitions, good bodies and good drugs; the "women r wonderful " effect makes men struggle to realize that "good" women may find that combo more appealing than goodness and kindness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:33 PM
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It turns out that being a bad person doesn't exactly bar you from your access to sex, and in some cases actually increases it. Mostly impulsive, non-committal, trauma bonded sex; inherently bad things that if men desire begs the question what the man is supposedly good for and to whom. Seems he has the same poor taste as the good woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:21 PM
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Agreed, so what makes the guys that "good" women date bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:17 PM
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That literally is the world right now and average or subaverage women don’t care and certainly don't ruminate about it. Do u think Influencers, Sugar Babies, qnd Golddiggers r representative of what men say they want n a wife; do u see any wives, especially virgin wives, with lifestyles that rival the party girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:15 PM
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No, the perfect scenario would be a doting husband who gleefully helps to fulfill our sexual fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:42 PM
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I don’t agree that they primarily attract impulsive/hypersexual women. In certain cultures, “bad boys” are highly sought after by well-adjusted women who have white collar careers. Your flaw is assuming that impulsive/ hypersexual women have a certain look, personality, or social circle, which isn’t the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 01:51 AM
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I've never "tried to date" fit men, but that's who's always pursued me more assertively than other fat guys for instance. My assumption is the guy needs to have confidence in his appearance and ability to pull "hotter girls" before he feels comfortable publicly dating and loving a fat woman. Also probably a sensory aspect as well as him benefitting from hypergamy regardless of financial status.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:10 PM
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The wild sorority girls from your college days didn't marry extremely successful frat guys? I've seen a few girls known to have public makeout sessions with multiple guys marry a man that was part of said public. But Im older, and this "return " to purity culture has only been a thing for 5 years if that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 02:31 AM
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That's typically new money tech bros, entertainers, and athletes. C Suite execs, high-ranking professionals, and successful entrepreneurs make pragmatic decisions when it comes to family. U don't see a bunch of young wives n social clubs, country clubs, all-star/AAU events, or Disney where upper / middle class families gather.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 02:09 AM
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Women fall head over heels in love, date, have LTRs, and marry men they weren't instantly attracted to all the time (probably most of the time). Immediate attraction is a bonus, not a cheat code. Also, there's a difference between finding someone attractive and being attracted to them; the latter relies less on looks and shines through during dating phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 02:00 AM
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Spending time with a man u pity but aren't interested in sounds like torture. I don't imagine women are that kind or compassionate toward strange men. "Rooting for" simply means Im optimistic about this date and hope it works out, hence why I went on the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 01:49 AM
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Women stay n bad relationships because of emotional attachment, investment, and commitment. Dropping a guy because we spot a Red Flag, character flaw, or things aren't going our way would lead serial monogamy with no attachments because nobody is perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 01:34 AM
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That's a big exaggeration; nobody wants to sit through a meal with bad company or an awkward date. There has to be some initial interest or attraction, I'd think
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 01:21 AM
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But we like meals, drinks, and entertainment; it's not a requirement, it's a preference. Most of us do the same with our girlfriends and families as well. Outings r fun
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 09:24 PM
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I thought that was understood. How do u like a guy that u don't know; dating is to determine if u have feelings, common interests/values, chemistry, or a future with a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 09:13 PM
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This practice seems it would harm Pair Bonding ability way more than hookups and flings
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 09:11 PM
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As a woman, there's a danger in delaying escalating a relationship towards sex. She will consider u a platonic friend, then if/when u do try anything, its awkward and off-putting. Not saying to be lewd or overt; but "you look hot" "wow, that perfume, it was hard not to be all over you" sets the tone better than "u look beautiful, u smell great"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:22 PM
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There's literally no other way to get out of your head and build comfort than exposure and practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 02:10 PM
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Attractive assholes dont have to do alot to convince shallow/dysfunctional women to fuck him. They get ‘unconditional love’ for ‘just being who they are’ ...and the attractive asshole is typically an ex-boyfriend, so obviously, there were conditions there as well. Unless guys hold the belief that women initiate most divorces but magically somehow it's Chad that does all the dumping n dating and relationships, which makes zero sense
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 11:10 PM
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Basically, women are extremely kinky and sexual for the top attractive men Have you ever looked at the husbands on kink subreddits or fetlife ads; that is extremely untrue. Where do men even get that notion, how would u know; I have no idea what Stacy has going on n the bedroom. Good people r incentivised by their own integrity and moral compass, if they need a reward for it then they weren't good, just weak and passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:39 PM
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Depends. Does "choosing a man over the kids" mean allowing a man to set appropriate structure and discipline n the home that was previously neglected by a stressed out single mom; does it mean spending more adult time developing a relationship with a new spouse when you were previously emmeshed with kids due to guilt from divorce; does it mean looking the other direction when abuse or mistreatment occurs? The thought of choosing one person over another within a family can come from a place of en…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:28 PM
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I actually find giving oral empowering. Your partner is completely under ur spell and ur n control of his pleasure and orgasm. U can engage n eye contact, tease, edge, make him beg for more or for mercy. Everything sexual is a matter of perception; sex is way too beautiful and pleasurable to be degrading.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 08:22 PM
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Define hoe? How long can u date without sex or marriage? How long after a breakup before u date someone else? How many relationships can u be sexually active in before ur a hoe? If a woman only has sex n committed relationships but won't stay past 2 years without marriage, then she's automatically in double digits before she turns 30; is that a hoe? Most guys wouldn't wait several months for sex (nor should they), is 2- 4 guys per year reasonable? Seems like a hoe by RP standards I think far mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 11:03 PM
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What your partner did before you can show you what they can value. How? If we're discussing an ex, then the relationship failed; nothing that took place in the failed relationship should be assumed to b of value n the current relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:44 PM
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Whats insecure or traumatic about an adult woman expecting sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:38 PM
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We're all bombarded with too much information that should've been kept as girl talk and locker room banter. A bit of delusion is healthy and keeps us optimistic; people have vices for good reason, reality is too bleak to go through life raw. Now everyone leaves puberty an anxious neurotic mess afraid to make mistakes and take chances. Not hot at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:36 PM
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Absolutely! Id actually suggest he start with women less attractive that he finds less intimidating until he builds his comfort level; but Im all for shooting for the stars as well; all she can say is no, then ask her to fix u up with her friend, get feedback, tips, etc. Active will always beat passive when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 05:10 PM
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Actually great advice. Builds muscle memory, practice makes perfect, eventually someone will b amused by your audacity and give u a chance or you'll feel more comfortable
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 05:01 PM
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Sometimes, sure. Sometimes, he's gangly and hilarious. Sometimes he has the good weed and gives great foot rubs. My son is 5'5 and literally rides the short bus and has no problem getting attractive girls off mom's advice to be the good time guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:55 PM
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Completely false. The fun guy that a girl can't wait to talk to or hang out with will win over handsome, sexy, rich any day. If anything, they'll have to share. But a man that can make a woman feel good beats any other guy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:32 PM
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Just had this conversation over the weekend. Girls being married off young to older men has always been a problem and typically resulted in loss of agency, exploitation, and/or abuse. Girls and women just didn't have a voice, couldn't divorce, and nobody cared about a young girls marital satisfaction. As soon as the opportunity presented itself, divorce rates skyrocketed and you rarely see these women encourage their own daughters into these unions. Also, statistically, the bigger the age gap, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:12 PM
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Right. Nuance. "Lucky to HAVE you (as a loyal, faithful, husband for life)" is very different than "lucky to F* you (immediately, passionately, enthusiastically)."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 10:11 PM
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What women said "looks don't matter?" That's never been a thing. Looks aren't everything, but they definitely matter and a deficit in looks needs to be pumped
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:03 PM
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Same. I've never heard nor witnessed any variation of the 6/6/6 desire expressed by a real human woman who isn't a content creator.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 09:10 PM
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Why do men assume what the "next dude" did to arrive n the same place as him (also an assumption)? Also, y compare yourself to someone a woman has intentionally removed from her presence
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:07 PM
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R men incapable of challenging feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 02:19 AM
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She should not waste her fertile years pursuing degrees and careers and rejecting good men. What's the correlation? There r way to many college students that r pregnant, planning weddings, or both for people to believe women r forgoing family for education/career. If women r telling men "I can’t until I graduate" they're just not i to the guy. Most of us have always planned to do both simultaneously; women multi-task.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 02:07 AM
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The more realistic scenario is that some women r open to casual sex; but a guy with good sex, good personality, good values, good resources will get more attention, leading to exclusivity, leading to fwb/situationship, etc. Early/easy sex + babies r notorious relationship/limerance killers; even the most nieve woman wouldn't run that pathetic game
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 12:59 AM
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Desirable men have enough personal agency to like and want whomever they are attracted to, connect with, and meet their needs and desires; they're not driven by metrics prescribed by unchosen, romantically unsuccessful men. There r plenty of highly desirable men all around us dating and marrying single moms and blending families. R they intentionally pursuing them, of course not; but to pretend single moms r suffering n the relationship market is ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 01:13 AM
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Proceed with caution
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:22 PM
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Most women actually experienced being sexually violated
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 06:56 AM
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Is that not RedPill ideology? Permissive for me, not for the?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 02:50 AM
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This post kind of implies women are incapable of operating on any moral basis The implication is that men don't define women's moral basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 02:04 AM
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Shame never deterred behavior; it just victimized the outliers and covered up the misdeeds of the most socially savvy n any situation. People have always had premarital sex; they just had shotgun weddings and backroom abortions. Women always dated bad boys, they just found a beta buxx at 17 -21 instead of 35 when/if they got caught or got pregnant. Men have always pursued whores; pre-internet they were just shamed to be at the mercy of men and left on "that side of town" to be used at mens leisu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 01:58 AM
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Yes. The overwhelming majority of athletes?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 07:58 PM
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I don't, Im pretty sure i said that. Men can and should have whatever standard they want regardless of their desirability. There are consequences for our exclusions (for everyone), and that's fine as well; i believe that's foolish, im also extremely guilty of it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 04:12 AM
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Many women and men shoot themselves n the foot because of our foolish preferences. Nobody is entitled to anyone. Honestly, I don't know nearly as many single moms struggling to find love as I do childless men; even the speaker on the video is already remarried as a single mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 03:58 AM
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Sure, if he has options, he should pursue them fully and find his match. Most guys n this unlikely scenario that I've nvr observed n reality only have hypothetical options, but r too resentful and smug actually engage with human women and make endless excuses y all women need to b excluded from his dating pool. To pass up an opportunity to date a woman u like and want because because she has a child like most healthy functioning fertile women and dated someone else n the past like most adults is…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 03:44 AM
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Want whoever; but If he "becomes desirable " that indicates that he wasn't before; y would he hold her lack of attraction against her? He didn't even remain the same person but is mad at the people that didn't want who he didn't even want to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 03:24 AM
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If single moms desire him, then he's desirable
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 03:21 AM
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If I forgo college to live abroad for a year, that indicates that the 1 year was the priority over the education/career that I valued for the rest of my life? How do relationships differ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 12:47 AM
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All men are revolted by the idea that their woman has been with another man So the men that intentionally date sex workers, strippers, port stars, or meet and form relationships within kink communities r lying to themselves a d their spouses? Pro athletes that knowingly marry groupies r lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 12:36 AM
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How r adults anybody's 1st choice? Most people's 1st choice was a classmate or summer camp fling; this is a very weird problem men have made up
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 12:30 AM
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So a broke guy, from a broke family should walk around with the confidence of a multimillionaire? Millionaires lose their women to personal trainers, pool boys, and maintenance workers all the time. Why wouldn't he? Money gets u compliance, not love, loyalty, or respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 12:29 AM
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Wait? The silver medal isn't a prize? The 1st choice is always the best choice? I find the "safe option " role validating. Im eager to downsize from my big suburban home to a condo, what I lose n looks and status, I will gain n quality of life; relationship choices r no different .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 12:24 AM
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Men: your education, career, and money are irrelevant to your RMV Also men: Provider Man Model No Longer Works in Modern Western Relationships. It's a scam. Which is it then? Do u need help with bills or not? Should the missus man up?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 12:12 AM
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But if they're unattractive, isn't it logical that they won't attract romantic interest? Y the bitterness, just get bait
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 12:04 AM
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That's the reality for people who hold these beliefs. Imprisoned by their own bitterness. Funny, women with major weight loss/glowups do the opposite, of course Im more desirable now, y wouldn't I take advantage
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 11:44 PM
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Desirable men is a more accurate term than real men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 11:41 PM
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Isn't that exactly what the nerd was since he was attracted to the "high status superficial twats" and not the homely, nerd girls? Did he change? Perhaps thats y at least shes had a few bad LTRs and started a family and he's still single on his high horse and still triggered by childhood stupidity
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 11:37 PM
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That's the weird thing. There were less than 20/ 180 girls who were into older guys and they were also into sex, drugs, and other unsavory activities on top of being severely troubled. Nothing good would've come from those girls with completely different lifestyles choosing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 11:32 PM
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The "crap" isn’t justice?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 11:26 PM
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Typically, after 40, women have made peace with not having children, so there's no urgency; no concern with choosing the best father, just great times with great guys and see where things go. The no pressure, low anxiety dating has tremendously improved the quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:40 PM
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How can women who are celebrating their promiscuity realistically not expect unwanted sexual attention? So if I overeat, should I expect strangers to shove unwanted food in my mouth? Liberation is about exercising choice and agency, not a complete absence of boundaries and standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:45 PM
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A lot of men struggle with nuance and r very limited by black & white thinking. We can both enjoy and appreciate our life, accomplishments, and freedom while desiring a partner. We can hold disdain for men who present the desire for youthful beauty as a threat; while having no particular opinion about age gap relationships as a concept. We can be triggered by our own personal experiences of being manipulated, abused, exploited, and mistreated as younger women trying to find love or being groomed…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 06:27 PM
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Fairy tales are more male fantasies than female. Men don't do anything to win the affection and devotion of the women, but the women completely abandon their personhood to appeal to the Prince because that is the culmination of their lifelong dreams and goals. As Redpilled as a story can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 03:19 PM
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Women will go around, not even considering this, and then never realize they were always second place. But then it doesn’t matter as long as they were chosen, which is ridiculous. Why does it matter if they're getting the relationship they want? Why would I judge my successful relationship by its similarities to a failed relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 05:43 PM
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25yo women r a lot more insecure, neurotic, and less self-actualized than a 40yo woman. Typically, by middle age, all people have made peace with who they are, their mistakes and faults, and their life trajectory
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 03:44 PM
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Men often tell women that they should expect Chad to have multiple partners; wouldn't allowing women to have multiple partners with dual mating strategies ensure that more undesirable men have a chance? Seems like the cuck's have their love life figured out
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 01:27 AM
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they want a robot/ai with a man’s mind for sex Lol, but somehow not masculine or promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 11:55 PM
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https://youtu.be/h9VajkjyVmM?si=ypcNTxyHyZhOTjpn
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 05:06 PM
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Most of these ideologies indicate a lack of self-worth and cowardice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:58 PM
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Where do u get the idea that "no man wants " these women? Where r single moms and post wall women struggling to get sex; absolutely break glass worst case scenario, we could all hook up with any ex at anytime. There's no such thing as a woman desperate for sex (maybe time limited, maybe ovulating and horny); we all still have standards for relationship/marriage. Poor strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:54 PM
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If getting women is such a problem that u have to resort to trickery and strategy; why would u seek to exploit/pump n dump the few women that actually desire you? That doesn't seem like pathetic self sabotage to u?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:45 PM
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If I'm pleased with the relationship without that knowledge, it wouldn't change our present or future. I'd certainly ask about it, but different people, different relationships require different input to get different results.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:17 PM
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How do any of your relationship problems correlate with her sexual history? Sounds like it was just a selfish, impulsive, crappy girlfriend regardless of her hoe past
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:38 AM
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The guy that would take in / exploit a homeless woman is a special breed. Women often face horrific torture and sex trafficking when they come across "kind strangers," this includes hotel and shelter security and police officers who r covert traffickers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:25 AM
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A woman who's happy to cook for someone is incredibly attractive Lol. This is exactly y I stopped cooking for my ex. To me, it was an excruciating labor of love, a sacrifice of time, energy, and effort that went unappreciated; he thought it was a cute fun hobby that he liked about me. Smh. I get ur points.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:27 PM
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Sometimes women are emotionally avoidant/ relationship phobic; we just mask it by dating/blaming unavailable guys. These r the women that appear turned off by men's feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:21 PM
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When? Even the current discourse surrounding Travis Hunter and his fiancée is blaming her for having inconvenient emotions. Johnny Depp, Jonathan Majors both the women's fault and not the guys that chose, courted, and committed to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 09:39 PM
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I don't know any women that don't work 40+ hours per week to provide for their family. Even the housewives I know are basically their husbands spokesperson, personal assistant, social planner, janitor, etc for their business, and they maintain the home, children, and parents. Women don’t make the first move, but the success or failure of the date or relationship is solely on our shoulders no matter the circumstances. the average working class woman's life consists of fewer responsibilities and o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 09:34 PM
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But women are stigmatized for entertaining a variety of men, choosing wrong, staying with wrong choice, or leaving wrong choice out of this wide variety of suitors. That makes things harder, not easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 09:27 PM
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It doesn't because the child actually exists and has to be provided for. It's no longer "abortion " after birth, it's just neglect.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 02:47 AM
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If you don't respect a woman because she gives u sexual pleasure, that's a you problem. Not common in hookup culture or with sexually successful men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 02:19 AM
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Men don’t have this right to waive responsibility that women do Doesn't abortion remove men's responsibility as much as it does women; who face way more medical risks from the procedure?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 02:00 AM
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It’s refreshing to see women like Kya, who are actually worth building a life with, still exist in a sea of pump-and-dump disposables and situationship rentals. Is it the cooking? How does she differ from any other woman twerking and seeking male attention and validation anywhere outside the kitchen?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 01:43 AM
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This is a mostly online thing. People with "normal" thought processes don't narrow the person they desire down to their sexual past void of humanity or nuance. Plenty of marriages start as casual then with time, connection, and investment progress to "serious."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 01:37 AM
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Ask for reciprocity. Demand it! Articulate your needs and desires early and often. Be assertive and responsible for the outcomes of the relationship u chose to participate in with the woman u chose to commit to. Expect that her love will be demonstrated n word and deed and hold her accountable to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 11:47 PM
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The distributor is performing to earn money like any other labor intensive, dehumanizing work; the consumer is exploiting them for sexual gratification. The consumer is worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:15 AM
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Regarding donating an organ to your spouse: "36% of wives who were acceptable for donation donated, compared with 6.5% of husbands. "
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 02:37 AM
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man love things for the thing itself. they go to war and die for random stuff whatever it is. theyd die for their family, for their wife, for some random kid in some war crisis. they dont have to coat things in fashion or appearance to love them. Men's love, like women, children, and other humans has elements of personal validation, fulfillment, and expectation of reciprocity. If men loved "the thing for itself" friendzones wouldn't be a topic and unrequited love wouldn't provoke bitterness and …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:07 PM
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I'm literally discharging a man as I type this. He had 1 fall and now has to go into a rehab for recovery. He doesn't have anyone to pay his December rent, let alone pack him clothing for the rehab stay or prevent him from being evicted. This is the reality of MGTOW, not just dying alone, but not even having a single person to do even the most miniscule favor on your behalf due to a lifetime of social isolation and transactional relations.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 01:56 AM
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Relationship/Sexual Market Value is irrelevant n real life. Make sure u both love her, respect her, and genuinely enjoy her company; make sure she honors you, respects you, and makes an effort to reciprocate your efforts; everything else will work itself out if yall don't give up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 09:15 PM
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Why wouldn't both sides seek the most advantageous relationship for themselves? How is that not the goal, and y would your partners satisfaction deduct from your own?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 06:16 PM
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Ooh! I think most of us r picturing sleeve masturbators. There r open-ended cocksleeves that seem like they would work well for both while preserving some natural sensation. To answer ur original question; it would make me less interested n penetrative sex. But as a woman, a guy who brings toys to bed gets extra points for sure!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 04:51 PM
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the expectation for small-dicked men to either wear a cock sleeve or forgo penetration entirel If women r suggesting the cocksleeve, it's probably the only tool they know of; if ur the one with the penis, bring suggestions and ideas to make sex mutually enjoyable. I assume a sleeve is to make penetrative sex possible, not pleasurable?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 02:08 PM
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I don't believe there's a standard answer, it depends on the guy, his sexual access to each woman, and how saavy he is. I will say I've been a lonely wife n need of support and resources; fwb always come through, literally 100% for everything. I've seen my brother and male cousins take care of their f buddies consistently as well, more than their LTRs (neither r married), but then their fwb's r long-time family friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 10:21 PM
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Sure!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 06:49 PM
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3.6 GPA from a no name liberal arts college who's now a random product manager or consultant making 120K, and thinking that they're exceptionally well-educated/accomplished as a result. With these metrics, she's among he's the most educated half and highest earning 20% in the country; how is that not exceptional?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 02:10 PM
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My free time is limited, so Id rather cuddle than cook if we don't live together. Brunch?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 10:01 PM
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women seem to be incapable of true unconditional love and loyalty or selflessness. If men were mastered UNCONDITIONAL love, loyalty, and selflessness; then the choices and behavior of women wouldn't impact men's marital prospects. We all have desires, boundaries, and conditions for our love and attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 12:05 AM
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Where do yall get the idea that decisions, specifically those involving humanity, are somehow more valid when they are based on logic versus empathy, compassion, or intuition? We're humans, we should all process everything outside of academic work through both logic and emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 08:16 PM
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Do u think I'm implying that these women have sexual access to most hot guys, or a hot guy? There's always 1, that's all it takes at any given time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:15 PM
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Honestly, Im a fat, black single mom who socializes in all types of circles and I've never experienced that type of energy n the real world from anyone (unless its some guy who's advances / attention I had rejected). The guys that talk that crap online r miserable losers who's only authority/ interaction with women is to bully those he feels should b beneath him. The best "revenge " is to not let them trigger u into a back n forth, it validates them temporarily. Plus, my life doesn't suck, I rad…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:44 PM
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Personal trainers and retired athletes make great, sexy, trad "wives." They're structured, socially saavy, health consious, take direction well, and earn flexible income.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:14 PM
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Right, it's such a weird circlejerk, especially coming from single people. I now believe that men were way more influenced by fairly tales and idealistic thinking than women. Negatively
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 02:03 AM
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average men end up with the alpha's leftovers which is older women who have aged out of the hookup culture you referenced of just banging hot guys while you can There is never a time n existence that any woman, regardless of age, looks, weight, hygiene, etc is unable to "hookup" with hot guys of any physical or financial status. Worst case scenario is a hot married guy with a fetish, but he'll still go, easily. Commitment is a choice, the plethora of options (at least for women) don't impact tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:59 AM
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Every evo-psych spewing “coach” in the manosphere will swear up and down that men have evolved to dislike women with high body counts, in order to prevent paternity fraud Yet their fear of paternity fraud doesn't prevent them from sleeping with high-N women or utilizing sex workers... only marrying their favorite women to fornicate with. Funny how evolution works for the logical ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:48 AM
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practicing nurturing and motherhood, or you were "living the life" and riding the carousel. How are those mutually exclusive? There r 24 hours n a day and wives r expected to do both with hubby, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:43 AM
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There's a lot of space between learning and practicing. Perhaps they learned not to date older guys but still manage to date abusive peers. Perhaps they learned to guard themselves but now only end up with predatory guys who aren't swayed by her guards.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:31 PM
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In his class of say 15 girls, the experiences of 3 without the context of their personal backgrounds, including their darkest secrets and adverse childhood experiences that influence their relationship patterns, are just anecdotes. Women, especially girls, aren't blank slates that enter early romantic relationships based on data, probability, rules, and regulations; some of the biggest influences are trauma, family, comfort, emotional manipulation, and media exposure (which today is overwhelming…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 06:28 PM
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But the negative behaviors weren't rewarded. The 1st guy got so angry and out of control that he physically attacked a little girl; the 2nd guy didn't get the hot eager willful sex that guys claim Chad gets, he raped a girl he couldn't seduce properly. Last story is awful for everyone involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 04:12 PM
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Your stories tell more about yourself and the interactions that u find more impactful than they do about women n general. In a class full of girls, u focused on the abused; n a school full of of girls, u were attracted to the one who found u repulsive; in a lifetime of stories of mundane or positive male / female interactions, the false allegations stand out. For every negative, there r 10s, 100s of positives; what do u gather from those experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 02:38 PM
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I can’t respect someone getting used and disrespected by a man, and feeling happy about it. It basically means you’re okay with being trash. That's your personal perception; sex positive women dont view sex as degrading, and ime typically fuckbois don't either. Either they are performing for the women or for their buddies, probably both. U'd expect that freaky fun with a horny guy would b the topic of the day; doesn't make it degrading or disrespectful if there was no expectation of discresion a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:32 PM
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Human beings shouldn’t think of or treat others like mere objects. Enjoying ur casual acquaintance that u have sex with is no similar to the buddy u go to sporting events with because they have season tickets or ur only friend that enjoys hiking with u. Being excited about the noncommittal sex u easily accessed isn't inherently disrespectful for men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:22 PM
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Men who feel that sex devalues women are far worse people than the men who seek mutually enjoyable sex with women they regard as people. This summarizes women + fuckbois perfectly
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:11 PM
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Yes! All of the advice that women give from grandma to girlfriends is about becoming a husband, beta buxxing essentiallywhich was totally acceptable and aspirational until the internet told u otherwise. U never asked ur aunt how to smash more bi**hes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 08:33 PM
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Clearly! Fat girls r way too self-conscious about being kept secret and too arrogant to confuse relationship status.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 02:40 AM
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Straight men aren’t allowed to be flamboyant Simping is straight men's flamboyance, and only straight men seem to have a problem with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 06:09 PM
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Telling men not to be a creep, no means no, don't sexualize women isn't demonizing male sexuality. There is nuance required and the guys that r hesitant to approach have to learn to navigate that just like women have to learn to navigate safely when dating. Through trial and error with sometimes life altering consequences for mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 06:03 PM
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I've had a roster that would strongly beg to differ.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 05:47 PM
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For women, so little of the approach, courting, and escalation is driven by us, so we operate under the assumption that if the guy keeps choosing us, then he must be pleased. I once had an ex mention that I had stopped doing the things I did to attract him and to this day I have no idea wtf he was talking about because n my mind I simply existed and he was attracted. It's an effortless either u like me or u don't mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 05:41 PM
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Childless women adopt. They're also the cool rich auntie that siblings and friends' kids emulate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 11:47 PM
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Idk if it's the belief of most women, or just me; but your partner should be accepting, not aspirational. If u have to "-maxx" to get them, you 2 will become strangers at ur mundane and especially lowest points, which everyone is bound to experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 01:57 PM
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Honestly, while looking back from where we are now, things sounded awful. But everyone's frame of reference was neighbors and family who were mostly living similar lives. Not nearly as many parasocial relationships with celebrities, so women were generally content.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 10:57 PM
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Prenups are fine, they should be negotiated fairly
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 08:58 PM
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Proceed as you normally would, don't follow her lead. If another girl comes along, shoot ur shot at her too and continue until Ms. Lady has time and effort for you. Also assertiveness is better than aloofneess to determine genuine interest
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 08:57 PM
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This just makes the case for beta maxxing, which all guys r free to do already but refuse for whatever reason. When old ladies used to say, "The women will love u when u get older, u just wait" thats what they meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 07:13 PM
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Typically, young adults that r homeless were foster care runaways that have no family ties, and no proof of identity, and a deeply rooted fear to return to the state that "kidnapped " them to even begin to establish themselves as citizens. They may exist without a legal identity their entire lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 05:39 PM
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No. If our relationship isn't being affected, then I don't need confirmation to confirm cheating; if we are being negatively impacted, confirmation of cheating doesn't change next steps
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:04 PM
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Omg, my son is dealing with this now. They get so involved in the chase and getting the girl, but don't even stop to think: Do I enjoy talking to her, spending time with her as a person? Does she reciprocate my kindness and generosity? Do i have to chase her or are we moving towards each other? Do I feel secure and proud of/with her? Being a boy mom is so interesting, the selfishness and abuse of some of these girls is unbelievable; and I'm not exempt. Guys talk about women, but they go through …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 01:03 AM
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Sex isn't the complaint about being pumped and dumped, it's the perceived deception
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:16 AM
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Also the assumption that she is cheating is actually interesting. Right, it makes way more sense that she's picked up on his low effort and emotional barrier but enjoys the sex so no big deal, she's just dating someone else instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:13 AM
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Even early on in the courting process, which is filled with excitement and emotion, women seem to have no qualms about walking away. Casuslly dating multiple guys, and one of them escalates to exclusive relationship. Situationship/ FWB senses competition and starts lovebombing. Bored, anxious, tired of courting phase. No connection. Low arousal. Respects u and knows romantic feelings aren't mutual. Hopes you'll pursue more aggressively (wants cat + mouse chase). Guy indicated conflicting values …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 01:00 AM
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We can peruse my yearbook, then those same people present day on Facebook. Nerds have wives, sluts have husbands, jocks r fat, cool guys r stunted. Everybody's fine. Then we'll take a ride and "touch grass" so he can see his cousins, uncles, etc who r aggressively mediocre but have attractive, adoring partners without surrendering their values
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 12:48 AM
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Why does the reason matter more than the result?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:51 PM
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This has been my post 40 dating experience. Less attention/attraction from randos with much better quality interactions and dating experiences. I don't understand the obsession with quantity on this board; who cares if most or many people find u attractive? You only need 1 for a relationship or a few for a rotation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 01:12 PM
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Very attractive men with lots of options do not if ever treat a woman romantically Where do yall get this? Men with lots of positive experience with women and aren't neurotic about potential hurt/shame enjoy women and enjoy making the women around them happy. Part of a playboy's charm is being flattering and romantic, indiscriminately (see Nick Cannon) It's not based on love or scarcity, it sets the mood and creates the vibe they want from the ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 01:48 PM
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That was my immediate thought on the topic; nobody is expected or obligated to help or intervene when they witness harm but women seem to do it instinctively with full knowledge of our inherent weakness. At the very least, call 911, get a pic, be a witness; smugly remaining uninvolved is just horrible human behavior for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 06:05 PM
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Not projecting anything to your specific situation; but this is one of the reasons y sex within a committed relationship with peers n similar life stages benefit both men and women. More likely to understand and support exploring solutions together.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:50 PM
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The pill, abortion and contraceptives is a large part of the problem with todays problems of the sexes. Remove them. Things by consequence would begin to fix themselves, Child support / family court is supposed to equalize the risks/penalty involved with non-committal procreation but somehow women r now villified for allowing a man to have sex with hwr as if its not an equal exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:03 PM
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Not everyone is a scholar and not everyone can have entertaining enthusiastic sex and cum on command repeatedly; different strokes for different folks. Sex crime , exploitation, and porn addiction are horrible and completely separate from consensual sex work. We disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:13 PM
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Where’s the intelligence in reducing your value to being only good for sex So is a plumbers value reduced to plumbing? A doctor reduced to medicine only? Why is hard to accept that not everyone shares the same psychosexual dynamics as you, and people can have sex for recreation or income completely divorced from the sex they have as an expression of love with their partner. I hug strangers all the time as a trauma worker; it's completely different than hugging my children. A ballplayer can slap …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 01:16 PM
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They attracted women that r attracted to abrasive, narcisstic generally acting with disregard for others men. They didn't attract every woman, they found their lane. Everyone has a lane.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 01:09 AM
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Most of the men u listed got women specifically because of their powerful persuasive personalites. Their women r psychopaths as well, if thats ur thing, let ur freak flag fly to attract crazies. Idk y this is so difficult to understand; what u lack in one metric you can overcorrect n another. Gates can b awkward and plain because he has an abundance of money, power, and persuasion. Cavil makes up for what he lacks because of looks, and actors can fill relationship according to their spouses' des…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 01:05 AM
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And I’m sure don’t get a dime in government subsidies. The noncustodial parent's financial duties are the one's being subsidized; and most single mothers earn too much to qualify for govt programs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 12:51 AM
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It's a very common trope that BFF's and girl groups split when one of them gets a new guy. That's essentially the female version of henpecked.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 04:44 PM
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then wonder why there are so many single moms I think it's more frustration than confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 11:57 PM
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A big difference that I observe on these social platforms is that what we desire, demand, and choose doesn't correlate to what we've earned, deserve, or are entitled to. Some of us seek complimentary partners that have the qualities that we lack.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 10:12 PM
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Understandable. The question was "Western women Just...Why????"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 10:05 PM
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I can only speak to what I've witnessed: gas station, friend of friend, church/school/family functions, work, gym, Instagram The guys r fortunate because there r 6 of them n the same age range so there's a huge network between them, their friends, and their dates/girlfriends friends
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 09:37 PM
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If I have a penny whenever "My(24F) baby daddy(38M) won't marry me even if we had 5 kids together and we had been together like 16 years. Why wouldn't he commit?" kind of questions on reddit, I'd literally be fucking millionaire. Why?? Western women Just...Why???? Emotional attachment and not seeing love/relationship partners as being interchangeable based on worth/value/compliance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 08:53 PM
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My niece, stepkids, and Godchildren r between 19 - 25. I notice them meeting people and immediately asking "hey whats ir ig/snap, etc" then follow and get to know each other thru social media. Same with my 15yo twins for the most part. Im over 40, and my group still overwhelmingly prefers the cold approach, but keep it short and exchange info quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 08:45 PM
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I don't see the double standard. Some people wish for a hug or back rub rather than a word of advice, some want the problem fixed for them, some want words. The practice is struggling and communicating with ur partner to figure yourselves and each other out. I agree women r worse at this than men; my feelings will b hurt because he doesn't respond to my "support " n a validating way, but thats for me to work thru and improve upon; not for him to stop being vulnerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 08:07 PM
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Precisely. That's women being vulnerable and men responding in ways we don't find supportive or helpful. With communication and practice, these mishaps improve; when one party shuts down or puts up guards (ego), both r bound to remain unfulfilled n the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:39 PM
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The entire premise of vulnerability is opening yourself up to judgement, ridicule, or rejection; but also empathy, support, advice, or understanding. Being vulnerable (and responding appropriately) has to be practiced to become more comfortable and reap the rewards.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 07:22 PM
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Im sure, low effort, high reward sex is good when it's great! I have way more fun at DisneyWorld than my house/job. Spent more for a week there than my monthly budget. I have no desire to live or work there, and my life would be perfect if I never returned. Guys want to be a roller coaster ride, but everything about them feels like home. Thats not a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 06:30 PM
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Despite having fucked him for the last 2.5 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 04:54 PM
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I started dating m the early 90s, witnessed my parents/ siblings earlier; sex/dating was less taboo prior to everyone carrying cameras all the time. Were privy to online opinions now that nobody had the balls to express n person and they're more conservative than reality would suggest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 07:53 PM
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You don't think women know whether we r in public with our guys or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:43 PM
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That analogy works perfectly to illustrate y women aren't confused at all. U think women desire to be some aspirational occasional treat for a man; or the far more consistent, albiet less desirable habit that he enjoys through changes n age, status, family, life stage, etc? While men get annoyed with their reality, they resent the woman they had to aspire to get. Same difference. Steakhouse gets buttoned up, boring, best behavior performance; McDonald's gets fun, comfortable, low effort, high pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:41 PM
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Larry Nassar sexually violated young girls with moms and dads present n the same room. I once was at an amusement park and the guy that strapped me n had his penis fully exposed (at the time i thought it was just weird and gross and not worth ending my fun day). Predators r called that for a reason; do hunters typically want to blend in and remain conspicuous or b loud, public, and obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/24 08:14 PM
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Sex education and birth control are preventative, not permission. In fact, my son had his condoms taken away at school for that reason, which was incredibly dumb on their part, but kids aren't allowed to consent to sex. But they have legal protections to pursue contraception / remedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:24 AM
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Sex education and birth control are preventative, not permission. In fact, my son had his condoms taken away at school for that reason, which was incredibly dumb on their part, but kids aren't allowed to consent to sex. But they have legal protections to pursue contraception / remedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:23 AM
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And if 14yo girls are children who dont know what they re doing, should they be forbidden from having relationships and sex until they re at least 25? They are forbidden from having sex, 14yo do not have the authority to consent to sexual relations, that's y it's a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 03:18 AM
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Its no different than the virtue signaling about marrying low body count women. And age gap relationships have a much higher divorce rate (20 yr age difference increases likelihood of divorce by 95%).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:46 PM
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But what I'm saying is that no one gets out the torches and pitchforks over relationships where one person controls all or most of the money "Nest egg, secret stash, freedom fund" are all from women expressing concerns about financially exploitive relationships. Also feminism and women's right to work, establish credit, etc were entire movements in response to husbands controlling the financial aspects of marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:33 PM
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Age gap relationships have always existed and were more popular historically than now. Their success and great outcomes would advocate better than their participants; IME, and most women's, the survivors of age gap relationships are more likely to tell exploitive if not horrific tales of the experience. That impacts the rhetoric. Honestly, it's a conversation you usually have to be invited to. In reality, nobody cares more than gossip and trending topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 11:28 PM
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This is especially timely coming off the thread where 99% of women said they don't feel a sense of pride or accomplishment from any past relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 09:43 PM
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Pride n a failed relationship isn't something I've witnessed or heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 09:20 PM
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Rockstar Lifestyle (now rap) has always been risque. It's young hedonistic excess; a crazy phase of life for the guys and girls. Look at the rappers from the 90s: Snoop Dog is everyone's harmless uncle with his own Little Leauge, Luke (who introduced sex work/strippers to hip hop) is an activist who made a run for Congress, or the endless Hip Hop Podcasters that r now just regular middle aged guys. People r complex, even the virtuous among us can find pleasure and escapism through offensive art.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:47 PM
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which allows them to exploit the fetishes of some men Is there a difference between fulfilling/serving/exploiting a fetish?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:20 PM
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As a woman, it doesn't really matter; but for ego's sake the hoops that he'll jump through to fuck or keep fucking
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:16 PM
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This! The ego doesn't come from the sex, it comes from Chad's complete mental breakdown and risking his career and freedom when he gets cut off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:08 PM
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My only issue was the woman wanting the man to commit to her without making sure his needs are met. Typically, women sleep with the man they're dating. If a woman has a new partner for every 5 dates betweenLTRs, then wouldn't her N-count be pretty high? Are u expecting high-quality women to not date high-quality men often? Sex before commitment = casual sex. This takes us back to the OPs question
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:02 PM
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because I have physical needs How r her physical needs being met if u expect her to b low n/virgin to qualify for marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 06:55 PM
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It's definitely my experience. The other side of that wall is freedom, low pressure, more confidence, and a lot more pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:25 AM
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Women do hit the wall,but it's by male standards. It just occurred to me over the weekend; how come lesbian & bisexual women don't seem thirsty to troll the schoolyards for barely legals like men? I guess u answered it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 09:45 PM
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A great barber, skin care regimen, and following mens fashion influencers / groups would likely accomplish the same thing. "Ur not unattractive, ur just broke (meaning low investment in appearance)"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:52 PM
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Women are as horny as men; that's y some choose attraction / sexual prowess over stability. The ones that make good choices n youth r likely less horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:36 PM
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Im actually not a fan, but I don't like sexual boundaries. If he nvr did I wouldn't notice, but if he outright stated his refusal, I'd b offended. Women r so fun, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:18 PM
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I did, I didn't like the experience at all I found it gross from a sensory standpoint (like biting into a steak but getting a hunk of fat instead) had never watched porn. Feel the same way about vaginas and all the shapes and fluids, lol. I do think the aversion to forskin is an American thing, and probably another argument for y low n-count women r more desirable (lack of comparison).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:47 PM
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I've seen the results of poorly done, painful incomplete circumcision; so I empathize with men on the topic. At the same time, not getting ur son circumcised makes him less desirable; I grew up with a guy that ended up insisting on getting circumcised n high school, he was Chad extraordinaire, but it was an issue for girls and an insecurity for him. I can't think of a female equivalent here n the US
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:38 PM
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I'm pretty sure most women both love and need men to exist; just not always in our messages, beds, or bodies. Women complain guys, a lot, about almost everything. Verbalizing our frustration isn't always a call to action unless it's coming from your actual spouse within a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:10 AM
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But they still don't want to be Beta Buxx, which would at least give them a shot at long-term sex, commitment, and children.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 07:12 PM
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Got it! Makes all the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:33 PM
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Oooo. Is "Chad" not also the DJ/bartender/athlete/frat guy that constantly got laid n his 20s /30s but no longer has the looks or status to makeup for what he lacks in $$$ or has the $$$ but has been burned/CS/divorce raped so much he clings to his comfort zone rather than date and pursue relationships? Different definitions, I see
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:31 PM
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Im almost 50; n reality the Chads of yesteryear become the simps of tomorrow. They actually have good experiences with women and enjoy them so they don't mind incentivising women to keep them around consistently; but mistrust keeps them from quality relationships because they've experienced women n their rawest form being cheated with, watching great guys get passed over for them, having sneaky sexcapades with socially perceived conservative women. Normal men can love and care for their friends;…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:04 PM
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Only if “I don’t like her enough to actually formally date her” is considered a psychological condition So you think adult lifestyles permit fucking and spending lots of time together but never getting hungry enough to go to a restaurant together during that time? As bossy and entitled as women are, we don't demand time, attention, resources, romance, and validation from the person we regularly have sex with? Casuals spend every weekend together, but that familiarity goes out the window when it'…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:45 PM
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But give it a few months and she’ll start pushing for a relationship A few months spending time with a great guy that i love fucking should change desire from casual to commitment. Doesn't change that the initial desire was casual
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:28 PM
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🤣 ever since the term Simp became popularized, it's literally become my dating standard. Simp or nothing!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:42 PM
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And since having more children is out, they have nothing left to bargain with but sex We also have no sense of urgency about "locking a man down " since kids r off the table and if we've been single at middle age we should already b well established. So dating becomes more about pleasure, convenience, and companionship. "No good men" comes mainly from the late 20 - early 30 crowd. Search it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:35 PM
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If men r keeping soft harems and women r spinning plates; it sounds less like delusion and more like 2 similarly avoidant people who've met their match and r locked n purgatory. I suspect the majority of modern singles
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:19 PM
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So, being active about getting time/attention from the woman u want as opposed to feeling entitled to it and treating them with hostility and repulsing her?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:03 PM
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the only dude who don't think she's a 10 is the average guy and why would she entertain him when he sees her as less than a 10 unlike the other 2 Precisely! Chad f's me like a 10, Simping Simon treats me like a 10, but the way to move forward (for a lifetime I add) is with Average Joe so I can get humbled and reminded of my imperfections and how little I deserve at every waking moment n front of the world. That's somehow better than just staying single and occasionally dating Chad or marrying th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:54 PM
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Absolutely. I demand one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:15 AM
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If a woman brought u pleasure and companionship n your twilight years; y wouldn't u want to give her the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:58 AM
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Pretty Young Thang isn't going for that, shes always on a mission n these arrangements and old men r n full simp mode when it comes to younger women. Can't prove us old bitter bettys right.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:55 AM
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Sadly, working class men fall victim to gold diggers as well. I see it n my ER, older guy marries a young CNA, she slowly changes everything to her name and leaves him n the hospital to die or staff to sort thru whats left of his finances place him n a nursing home. Kids have no authority over dads finances. It's a mess. Men r less protected than women n these instances because their ego won't allow anyone to advise them to keep their assets safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:52 AM
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Reciprocal relationships based on love r definitely healthier and more sustainable; unfortunately, we'd have to toss our wishlists out and connect with each other, nobody has the attention span or patience for that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:46 AM
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Relationships based on connection and love are one thing; relationships based on meeting specifically defined criteria are indeed transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:03 AM
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That! Nail salons, restaurants, most household jobs dealing with contractors. Labor trafficking is as deadly and exploitive as sex trafficking and we patronize daily
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 11:01 PM
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they will face more social repercussions for saying something like that they prefer a woman below a certain weight; something that actually can be controlled. They won't though. They'll b debated, bargained with, criticized, and mocked. Just like women that prefer Chad, or interracial dating, or wealthy men, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 08:27 PM
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Right, it's such a weird fear because leveraging assets definining priorities is part of all adult relationships. Even the hottest woman ever marrying the man of her dreams is giving up more $, more fun, better sex, being adored, etc, because u can't commit without compromising some desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:52 PM
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There is no proof. Stop trying to read minds and project intent and focus on if the person u choose is giving u what u want from the relationship or not. Hot passionate sex with an attractive bum is settling, being spoiled by a rich handsome asshole is settling, y do regular guys wanna b Prince Charming so bad but say it's women who believe n fairy tales? Women don't really work that way contrary to popular belief. "Settling" is the normal adult thing to do for both sexes but never with someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 07:48 PM
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Not quite the same crowd, but definitely informative and supportive: https://dadstartingover.com/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:56 PM
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Those specific women have a fetish, it's not normal or common enough to warrant concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:38 PM
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Prove that it's caused by: lack of self-awareness, stability, confidence, and future orientation, and not by genuine desire I cant, desire is informed by all those things. When I was 20, I desired a job with weekends off to party that made me feel like i was saving the world. Didn't care about $$ or benefits. As I matured, life changed, got experience, I genuinely desire $$$, full benefits, I prefer working weekends, and "saving the world" sounds childish. isn't an indicator of anything It indic…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:44 PM
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Fat girls, much like undesirable men, that know how to play the game do just fine from my experience. Why should anyone get blame for chasing and enjoying who they're attracted to? Isn't that exactly what orbiters r too passive to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:14 PM
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Huh? Is this a joke? You could literally approach the same exact woman on different days and get different responses, there's rarely that much consistency with women's choices. And yes, if guys face constant rejection, then he should b approaching Wildebeast in good faith with a positive attitude, practice makes perfect and big mama could probably teach him a thing or 2 about appealing to your specific audience vs indiscriminately approaching people who aren't interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:46 PM
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I attended my aunties funeral over the weekend, her husband delivered the eulogy, they were married 63 years. It was moving and I joked that I'd never heard him speak. As I pondered the marriages that were happy, lasting, and not wrought with scandal, it occurred to me: these men would all be considered betas. The women, accomplished academics, professionals, partied hard n their youth, settled and raised children, middle age, fun and travel after retirement, not unlike modern women; their husba…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:32 PM
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The majority of women are "dating" alphas out of their league Eventually they settle for some beta they don't love, by tricking him into thinking they love him How does logic convince men that the impulsive dating when young women lack self awareness, stability, confidence, and future orientation is love; but the the lifelong commitment she makes when she reaches maturity and peak self-acceptance, peak finances, and peak emotional stability is fake?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:47 PM
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When I grew up in the 80s, a "latchkey kid", parent's and children converged mainly at dinner, to watch a movie or sitcom together, or Sunday for church and Sunday dinner. The remainder of time, children and adults lived completely separate lives with little emeshment. Very "free range." Somewhere along the lines the expectations for parents became intensively child focused. Kid's basically rule society and once you become a modern parent every waking hour, every ounce of effort becomes about va…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:14 PM
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Yes. For me especially, more than most, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:37 PM
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Y is it false hope? Just because she's not particularly interested or motivated now doesn't mean she never will be. He's making the decision not to move on. Even an ex will still date around while trying to win u back.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:02 PM
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I assumed orbiter = guy n the friendzone
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:57 PM
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🤨 more than ever? "On public platforms." Feminine virtue has always been at best a myth, more likely a projection, worst case a sanctioned form of oppression. Nothing else natural and biological requires as much human, religious, and government effort to control it. When guys refer to women of the past or other countries they're interpreting lack of access to medical care, STD treatment, birth control, or abortions to women behaving differently as if "shotgun weddings " weren't a common occurren…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:46 PM
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What keeps the orbiter not only sticking around but refusing to pursue other women if not the jolt of enjoyment/entertainment/ attention/emotional validation/social currency/social proof he gets from the object of his desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:34 PM
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Question: But are women openly agreeing to this? And actually "preserving" (as per your comment) their value? Answer (within my comment): of course not Im well credentialed, r u challenging me to a jargon off with ur lengthy response? Lol. Life lesson: many people want a life well beyond what they require, deserve, are entitled to, have worked for, or are willing to earn. Even if we pretend it's just a woman thing, we'd all do better to accept that deserving and desiring don't correlate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:34 PM
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A POORER woman in India would be happIER with a MORE PERMISSIVE, MORE LIBERAL, LESS OPPRESSIVE guy earning $1500 USD a month. In the US he'd need to earn $10000 USD a month BECAUSE WOMEN CAN TYPICALLY LIVE THE LIFE THEY DESIRE WITHOUT A MANS INCOME BUT CAN BE INCENTIVISED TO MATE WITH MORE OPPRESSIVE MEN IN EXCHANGE FOR IMPROVED LIFESTYLE $$$ Why do men hyperfocus on single aspects of complex relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:58 PM
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Most advice from women, elders, and parents are specifically with BetaBuxx in mind and r still very useful for that purpose. The manosphere told men this wasn't an optimal position. If u have to ask, ur likely not "Alpha" and the only advice should be to "be yourself" and adjust ur expectations accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:45 PM
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Agreed. Adjusting ur approach to the object of ur affection is the little jolt of validation that causes women to overlook even attractive nice guys. An asshole treating me nicely because he's into me carries a bit more social currency than a nice guy being anxiously indifferent in close proximity to me. Illogical, but attraction often defies logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:40 PM
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What actions do nice guys take with women they're romantically attracted to vs other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:25 PM
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Men only recently started to vocalize to public forums that experience, wisdom, sexual prowess, and financial stability depreciated (only) a woman's value. Of course most women ignore them because there is no reward in lifetime commitment to a man that shares those beliefs. What other purpose does having cake (or standards) serve if not to benefit us?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:11 PM
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I don't agree with the OP at all, I personally don't participate in relationships where should they end I feel like I've been used or my time wasted. That thought process seems more online than real life, and Im old enough to avoid men raised by social media. But yes, if men take the standpoint that women r objects with depreciating value, then the "seller and product" should set their price at a point that protects them from net loss. (money is the easiest tangible, not the only)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:13 PM
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If a single person isn't self-serving; who's serving them, looking out for them, or meeting their needs? I think men would be less emotionally despondent if they were more unapologetic about being self-serving as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:02 PM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/04/13/in-a-growing-share-of-u-s-marriages-husbands-and-wives-earn-about-the-same/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:56 PM
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Golddiggers r strategic, they'll easily pass ur bill splitting tests. You will absolutely lose $$ on ur quest for love or a good time. Focus on your comfort your pleasure and desires instead of exclusionary criteria, so if u do lose $$ at any point, the woman/experience will b worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:42 PM
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Absolutely, I thought that line of thinking was standard for rich men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:32 PM
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Men r vocalizing more than ever that anytime we as women have sex with them, were giving away something valuable that we can't get back (body count); when we birth their children, we become "worthless" due to body changes, aging, and PPD. And unfortunately rather than end a dead relationship, men will lock us in purgutory and gaslight us about cats and lonliness n our future when our present is husban, family, heartbreak, responsibility, and lonliness. It's really hard as a woman to justify roma…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:26 PM
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nice" is the bare minimum, how do so many men who aren't "nice" get women Easy. Rather than rant and whine about not meeting the bare minimum; they overindex on any of the other dozens of attraction criteria women have and cast a much wider net than hyperfocusing specifically on the women who reject them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 04:56 PM
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He was never nice in the first place, he was just an average guy who figured he spent time and energy trying to manipulate her into finding him romantically or sexually attractive. ...he also insults her endlessly with the assumption that the more "attractive guys or cooler guys" that she does date or sleep with have less (rather than different) requirements for access to her. The not so nice part of even befriending "nice guys." The superiority complex and covert insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 04:42 PM
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How do u know they were "nice guys" if they didn't phrase it as them being rejected for that reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 04:25 PM
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so looks are the most important thing? can't believe personality isn't There r attractive "nice guys " that just don't push female buttons with their personalities; I'd argue thats more common than ugly, unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 04:21 PM
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My bestie has spent the greater part of our adult life going back n forth with her abusive criminal babydaddy. He's also outrageously romantic, fun, reliable, tolerant, a great provider,and completely integrated into her friends and family n ways that "better" men haven't been as consistent and willing. People r complex and dynamic; judging them by their worst characteristics only helps to exclude them, but doesn't help to understand or relate to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 04:19 PM
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I have no idea what men want, literally never even gave it a thought until manosphere and groups like this. Im extremely self-centered n relationships and figure if he's here, he's happy. And of course, men don't initiate breakups, so who knows how many endured negative emotions that i held against him because he wasn't entertaining and validating me enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:27 AM
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Not spiritual, but connection over "value." If u enjoy being with someone, are mutually attracted and aroused by each other, and share similar core values and goals, everything else is can be figured out. The attempts to quantify human relationship dynamics are divisive
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:35 AM
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Restitution with interest under penalty of garnishment or jail
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:44 PM
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because men will be a lot more honest about these things with their close male friends than they will be with women U think men r more honest with their buddies than their lady? I suspect a lot of views that men think r highly shared among their peers are just men capping to impress their homeboys.Low RMV/SMV women haven't grown so cocky and arrogant based off delusions with no real life experiences to back it up. That guy that's talking all that crap to his buddies may very well b simping for s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 04:32 PM
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prioritizing hooking up. If they were single, how were they "prioritizing " hooking up vs hooking up because he's attractive/seductive and she's horny
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 03:47 PM
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"Settle " with their partner or for their partner; and according to who? How is "settling" with a stable guy later n life when ur mental health, insecurities, finances, and personal relationships have all stabalized different than say moving to a suburban home when ur lifestyle no longer fits that downtown apartment? Why does buying the home indicate growth, but the man indicate settling?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 03:30 PM
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most were ready to fuck right in the restaurant to make sure you stick with them. It's way more likely that they have limited time with a babysitter and a man they're attracted to and want to mate the most of it with adult fun sexy times. Y do guys refuse to believe that women r horny and they're desirable. When has sex ever locked a man down, nobody knows how stupid that is more than a single mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:27 PM
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I suspect many, like myself, spent their younger years n dead-end LTR's and held off having children waiting for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:22 PM
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Men straight up do not have that option. Isn't simping men exercising what they can control to get the women they desire?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 01:17 AM
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I don't care if im remembered or acknowledged in any way by any one after I'm dead. Can't imagine how that will effect anything
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 10:35 PM
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Women can fuck up but never date up Do u imagine a world where attractive men refuse to date the women that they consistently fuck? And the adult women r fine with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:37 PM
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Right, so all the women that failed to get commitment from Leo Dicaprio were shooting above their league? All women that sleep with lifelong bachelor's aren't up to his standard, can't possibly be that he's a self centered commitment phobe
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:34 PM
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The few older single women that appear or express misery it's usually about other factors related to dating that have nothing to do with desirability; its the more challenging aspects of trying to date through the social, financial, and biological changes that come with aging that they struggle to navigate. (Cant fill ur social calendar with random guys when u have teenagers at home, a career brand to protect, finances at risk, etc) Older guys are more practical, risk-averse, emotionally stable,…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:33 AM
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Um, It's actually way easier to abandon shame and inhibition with someone u have zero respect for. They're "for recreational use" how is it guys understand when they make such claims about women, but cant fathom that the Chad they admire so much is just a hot idiot that's seems like a good lay?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:31 AM
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What's changed exactly to how you treat sex or hold different men to different standards? He consistently reveals judgment in casual conversation regarding kink, bodycount, etc. He's a buzzkill because he harps on missing out on an act that should've and usually happens organically as opposed to contrived because of duty.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 11:55 PM
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Im not disagreeing, adding context/experience
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 11:10 PM
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And they get men The difference between older women and men is that women are able to stop at mission accomplished. The who/what/when/how/why is very irrelevant if our needs and desires are being met bybour partner. My friend group is 40+, the "misery" may be dating while navigating being a mom/grandma, dating after breakup/divorce, dating past limerance stage; but no woman I know has ever been threatened by a younger woman taking a man from them or has trouble attracting men of all ages. Ironic…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:54 PM
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This isn't even remotely uncommon. Homeless/mentally ill/ addicted/ unattractive / disabled people find and maintain love all the time. They just exist, try, and don't hyperfocus on pessimism and risks like many here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:14 PM
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LooksMaxxing = good, UseMaxxing = simp? Y is pleasing women visually /sexually respected but pleasing women practically / financially shunned?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:21 PM
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What if he thinks she deserves his time, attention, resources? Men cant determine the criteria for themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:15 PM
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Right! Simp seems to be guys that do whatever women want to keep them around. I wouldn't entertain a guy that doesn't "simp" no matter how arousing and attractive. I don't know any women who hate men who r charming, kind, fun and generous. Those behaviors just don't move the needle if there's no attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:11 PM
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Familiarity, attachment styles, Imago Relationship Theory
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:06 PM
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Those women are specifically targeted and groomed because they're young, beautiful, lack protection, nieve, and susceptible to manipulation and control. Identifying those factors is part of the courting process. Do u think they sift through DMs and weigh every guy methodically? Below average women don't even do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 09:07 PM
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weak, and against the very thing they said they wanted. It means they capitulated that they are not wise, it means that they were wrong, and should not be allowed to make future decisions It also shows that they are unselfishly loyal, risk averse, family oriented, and resilient. But even the reckless, stupid, and arrogant are deserving of empathy from "good" people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 08:59 PM
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So if I've dated 5 guys: 1 charming but unattractive bum, 2 millionaires, 2 average guys; am I entitled to basic human empathy? Does the order make a difference? Is empathy portioned like some kind of currency? What if the lowest value man is the abusive one?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 07:28 PM
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No. I've never seen a perky 19yo thats hotter than a lusty, milfy, confident 32yo. Even n porn, the full heavy boobs and forward confidence is hotter and the sex looks sexier. Difference of the sexes, I assume. Like how bi/lesbians like their femmes more provocatively dressed than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 05:46 PM
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What's stopping you from fulfilling your original purpose? Feminism was always about choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:05 PM
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If you are a trophy wife that enjoys a life of luxury with an elite level man, you will probably tolerate your husband cheating. Tolerate for exactly 10 years or whatever the state requires for her to be entitled to his earnings, property, retirement savings and/or pension. Trophy wives r strategic, not crazy n love. "Don't get mad, get everything " - Ivana Trump
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 04:26 AM
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The toughest thing a woman will go through in her life is aging and the loss of power and privilege that comes with that. Where r u getting this info? That's not my experience as a middle-aged woman nor anyone that I interact with. Content creators are attention seeking, real women n the wild gain confidence with age and experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 04:20 AM
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Sure they should have sex with other adults, they should not be exploited and subjected to an older man that wants to be condescending towards them for acting their age, which is usually the case. Older men rob women of their youth and development in attempt to mold them into what they think a young woman should be
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 11:29 PM
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Is the doom and gloom pessimism offered by men particularly helpful? Looks like manosphere has only served to validate fear and anger and push women further away. The condescending tone makes it hard to be receptive to men sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:19 PM
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They are allowed to vote, to sign contracts, and to live without parental supervision. Ah yes, the freedom to screw up their life, finances, credit, health as early as possible then try to correct their childish mistakes through retirement
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 07:47 PM
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Late 20's... by then regardless of age, everyone's basically at the same life stage through empty nest/ retirement
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 07:45 PM
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If u walk onto a sex shop, 75% is dedicated female stimulation; if women didn't enjoy sex, men wouldn't complain about N-counts so much. Women absolutely enjoy pleasurable sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:20 AM
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Every day we live on earth and don't die we're all accumulating baggage no matter how "decent." Being overly cautious, avoidant, socially isolated, judgemental, inability to maintain romantic connection, insecure, dismissive, regimented, lack of vulnerability, unrealistic expectations: all baggage influenced by not dating or being in relationships. Pick ur poison.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 03:30 AM
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If it's true that 'women don't need relationships to be fulfilled in life', then we'd likely see a lot of perfectly date-able women straight up not dating at all Some women date out of boredom, for entertainment, a quick dopamine/ego boost, to fill their social calendar, because we're socialized to partner, etc. But they don't put forth effort because there's no goal attached to the dating. That's usually the actual case when young women date crappy guys (cock carousel); they're just "smthg to d…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 02:19 AM
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When our feelings are equally as valid and important as logic; even when they conflict, even when they're fleeting; they must alwaysbe prioritized. It's y a guy can be good on paper, check all the boxes, but we don't like him. If he doesn't make me feel attractive, valuable, excited, accepted, and adored then the checklist doesn't matter. I can imagine its very frustrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 11:36 PM
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I've abandoned both my father (for years at a time) and partners for some combination of the reasons that you listed, not because I wasn't happy or I was emotionallyreactive; but because they consciously dedicated more effort and energy into making me feel miserable, insecure, and incompetent to get their point and their values across than they were into loving, validating, and supporting me. All people take risks, make mistakes, have difference of opinion, and fall short of expectations; if u c…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 11:07 PM
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In a relationship between 1 man + 1 woman, why does the opinion of "most men" matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 08:44 PM
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Your in person method is exactly what most women prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 02:28 PM
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Yep. A lot of dudes think today's Tradcon women still have a 1950's Mayberry mentality when many of them are just as superficial as modern women. And men forget that those "traditional" couples also dealt with dead bedrooms, and "traditional men" didn't express a desire to be lusted after like Chad. Many couples n my great grandparents' generation slept n separate twin beds if not separate rooms. Traditional men married knowing they were beta buxx, it was their main selling point
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 02:44 AM
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Simp by your definition is excessive and ridiculous; honestly I'd just assume he's closeted or smthg. Simp by the social media definition: a guy that is eager and accommodating to the women that interest him sexually or romantically with no regard to her RMV; those guys have figured out how to get what they want out of life and women and I love that for them, and their lucky ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:47 AM
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Daily, same partner, occasional infrequent variety
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:07 AM
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Do you still think about it and get turned on? I rarely remember the actual sex from past partners, but I'm turned on by the memory of the buildup, seduction, or if there was smthg out of the ordinary like a kink or phrase or act. How do your feelings change about the times you had together when he breaks up with you and you were together for years? I personally dont have a history of high conflict, toxic relationships, so my opinion of my exes and our time is pretty favorable; but also sex with…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 05:30 PM
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Hung out together and lunched together at work for almost 2 months before we slept together on our first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 01:14 AM
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This is literally the difference between guys that end up n the friendzone vs guys that get the happy ending. Action! Lots of PPD guys live n their heads and are imprisoned by what if's/what abouts/ worst case scenario hypotheticals. Congratulations on ur union, patience + well timed escalation = super hot!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 01:11 AM
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It's strange, they view sex/relationships as diminishing value rather than part of the refining process; it's gotta b a projection on how they view themselves or men as a whole. Y would u assume (even n fantasy before u even meet the woman) that she must select partners poorly, prior partners couldn't have seen value n her, but also she selected you so smthg has to b wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:19 AM
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Men simultaneously boast about refusing to be used and adamantly reject the idea of women desiring them for utility over lust, yet are offended by being called useless? This is coming from the logical sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:58 AM
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No, we met at work. I'm highly introverted and find people to be an aquired taste (especially romantically) best received organically.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:52 AM
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Isn't being last the ultimate goal of relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:48 AM
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And if they were abused and/or have issues, are they not worthy of their preferred relationship dynamic with a loving/willing/consensual partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:37 AM
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Y is loving someone because they are kind, compassionate, affectionate, and disciplined different or better than loving them because they are wealthy, generous, and responsive? Both are tangible qualities that have the potential to change with life's circumstances or health. A couple isn't less valid because they joined for a different reason than others agree with
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 11:56 PM
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Right! That's exactly what I like, wheres his @ , lol But OP, that particular kink is shrouded n shame; especially with the growth of RedPill/Manosphere framing submissive men and cuck fetishists as less masculine, unloved, low self-worth. For both men and women it takes a lot of maturity and self-assurdness to embrace alternative relationship dynamics and until they reach that point, they'll likely sabotage their relationships out of fear, guilt, and desire for public acceptance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 11:47 PM
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It's completely healthy to befriend, date, and marry people with opposing ideologies as long as you're able to maintain healthy boundaries within your relationship. So yes, if he's an otherwise great guy with an idiotic belief, then we could make smthing happen; It wouldn't be support, endorsement, or lying because I'd continue to express my own opinions and advocate for kittens. If he tones down the kitty hate speech, he's being considerate, not lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 06:17 PM
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They mimic women’s opinions because in their mind it’s a viable way to get closer to them for sex. So they're making themselves more attractive to the women they desire? How is that a bad thing, shouldn't everyone do that if necessary?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 03:11 PM
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Is that relevant to their current happiness or relationship satisfaction?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:59 PM
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That's exactly what mature women do, men call it beta buxxing; it's always been how society worked until men were exposed to Chad lust and now feel entitled to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:20 PM
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Yall to be ran through and fat then have these delusional standards So we should pitifully remove ourselves from the dating market, date our RMV matches who are resentfully settling for us, or continue having possibly dead-end relationships with hot, fun, attentive guys who seem to enjoy us?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:18 PM
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more a man has sex, the more virile, experienced, and formidable, he becomes, confidence soars, conquering is having power Exact same for women. You'd think inexperienced guys that r afraid of women would c that as a benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 12:41 AM
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Women use casual sex as a way to try and get a LTR. Women don’t want casual sex like men do, therefore it has to be flipped. False. Women don't exclude men from the potential for LTR/ Relationship just because they've been having casual sex. We typically wouldn't have casual sex with a guy we are intentionally dating for LTR/marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 09:57 PM
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Prioritizing sexual attraction less doesn't mean it's not a big priority in choosing a BB
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 09:48 PM
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men marry their "beta-buxes They're actually pretty intentional and vocal about this to everyone's detriment. If you're fun/friendly/ sexual basically if a guy likes you or is aroused by u, it triggers him to deem u "for the streets" due to the horror that some other man or worse Chad may find u attractive too. They will say, "Marry a 6 - 8", for the same reasons women choose to marry a "beta" but remain hyperfocused on bashing or just watching fun/friendly/sexy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 09:45 PM
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I misunderstood
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 08:52 PM
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Is he likable, entertaining, romantic, disarming, and engaging (will every conversation turn into a debate/lesson, not self-righteous)? A guy that would make a great husband on paper (having what women need) may turn women off at the meeting/dating stage (lacking what women want)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 08:29 PM
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What does this say about women? They do what they want, if opportunity says hookup to get his attention or they just want to, most girls will do it Or, the guy has the experience to weed out girls that aren't into quick hookups or he's attracted to slutty girls who are attracted to him. Thats what's so dumb about n-count conversations. If I bed 12/500 guys then Im the town bicycle (despite being extremely selective) but u can bed 3/20 ladies and somehow you're more selective than me. No logic fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 08:02 PM
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The nursery rhyme: What are little boys made of? Snips, snails And puppy-dogs' tails That's what little boys are made of What are little girls made of? Sugar and spice And everything nice That's what little girls are made of
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 01:30 AM
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I am superior morally to the women who please bad men. The same qualities that attracted u to hang out with those guys were the same qualities that attracted women. It's that simple
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 12:50 PM
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Have you ever specifically verbalized to an ex all thevareas that could've improved the relationship? I've asked all of mine, and I've yet to get an articulate answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 12:40 AM
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The recommendations dont minimize odds at all; there's no statistic or practical evidence that more females r assaulted n bikinis and party dresses than jeans, burkas, diapers, or school uniforms. We know from experience that it doesn't matter and dressing in a way that makes us feel sexy desirable and confident typically nets positive results.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:41 PM
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he 20 ex girlfriends, goes to parties and constantly hooks up with other girls Sarah likes to go to parties and hooked with guys which is y she connected with Brad so effortlessly. Good guy doesn't think this is ok for a potential wife so he may date her, but can barely contain his condescending judgment Should Sarah keep trying to change and perform to get dated, judged, and possibly LTR by good guy who hasn't even asked her out or escalated the relationship or stay n her comfort zone with the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:31 PM
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Precisely. Men made the shift by calling each other names n the last 5-10 years so now whereas most BB throughout history have lived happily ever after; men r hyperfocused on the ones that didn't, not seeing any nuance n their individual relationship failures and tricking themselves out using their own attractive qualities to get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:19 PM
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I know this is a shock to Chad's fanclub; but you can find a person attractive without being attracted to them. Women can get the ick from men that we are extremely attracted to and then find them unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:12 PM
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Because you desire a relationship with mature woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:54 PM
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That's a completely valid feeling; but then these men then have to take accountability for removing themselves from the dating pool based on their own obsessive projection because no matter how much of a loser or playboy previous men were, they brought something (seduction, validation, entertainment, acceptance) that other guys were incapable of bringing; other guys can bring an entirely different set of qualities (commitment, structure, partnership) but refuse because they're hyperfocused on th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:54 PM
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Women one hand will complain about being objectified by men and how life is so difficult because of that, then on the other hand will post a picture of her ass front and center on social media Object of desire/appreciation vs recipient of verbal attacks and sexual assault. That doesn't seem so hard to understand. If a gymbro posts a shirtless pic, he's not looking for catcalls, but he wants his body appreciated. Same with a sexy woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:35 PM
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Whole foods, a local carnival, church, Chipotle, Disneyland? Average Joes have wives, girlfriends, and sidechicks when they actually make moves to partner up and not get caught up in Chad fantasies and comparisons.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:16 PM
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Slept with her boss for clout? The workplace places the higer responsibility on the one in charge, boss can b male or female. Did I choose my husband badly Did bad husband sign a marriage certificate with an unemployed or underemployed woman, make a vow to her, and fail to uphold it? Doesn't really matter because only 11% of divorces result n alimony awarded to either party (3% of recipients r men) and only n cases of significance income disparity. Easily avoidable, and not specific to men. Wait…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:51 PM
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Apparently it’s something that you just learn and use without trying to figure out why tf does it work like that That's the patience that women ask for
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:29 AM
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So, I've had a fwb, but when i broke it off to start a relationship (which he claimed not to want) he stalked me to the point where I had to involve police and get a restraining order. He still pump and dumped me despite me having to have him physically and legally removed from my presence? I keep making the point from my experience that guys r extremely possessive over their "conquests." So regardless of the relationship title, they give their resources and undivided attn to women they wouldn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 02:47 PM
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Im confused. So what scenario can a woman have sex that doesn't result in marriage and it not b considered pump and dump?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 02:07 PM
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Microplastics n our water, cookware, utensils, and bottles. Hormones n our food, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:23 AM
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Untreated depression, low T, lack of purpose, less active participation in faith communities, comparison, limited exposure to and interaction with nature
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 01:11 AM
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You're on point, sir! Don't move forward with wedding plans until the respect and communication matchbor exceed the love. Good luck to u.
/r/MensRights25/04/24 12:20 AM
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ETA: i see that she apologized You need to firmly explain to her how disrespectful that commen was and that u don't deserve and won't tolerate ur role or your job being devalued. You cant passively lead, she needs to be corrected, then she needs to make amends n front of your daughter as well n whatever way yall agree upon. With that said, if wife were me, i would appreciate u picking the kids up and staring dinner at least a couple days per week since u have more free time. Think of the few hou…
/r/MensRights24/04/24 10:49 PM
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Typically, one or both parties n a fwb/situationship desire exclusivity from their partner, they have no intention to b exclusive themselves. Plus, if Im with u sexually then u belong to me, and I'll throw a tantrum about anyone else you entertain regardless of our agreement. Helps to establish dominance, build sexual tension, and keeps things spicy and entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 09:44 PM
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Black & White thinking when everything involving human relationships exists on a scale. For instance, "he's not the best sex I ever had" = settling, faking arousal, betabuxx, future dead bedroom. When it very likely means our sex is 8/10 which would be an outstanding sexual experience to commit to
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 08:56 PM
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Do women marry men that they view as a best friend and care alot about them but they don't feel any passion and romance towards them. In my opinion, "marry the guy who loves you more than u love him" is taught and championed among women and the ones that are perpetually single are those that choose not to sacrifice lust, passion, and limerance for safe commitment. The thirsty women at strip clubs, paint n sips, girls trips, etc r usually the married ones. (Same with men now that i think about it…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 02:16 AM
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I would happily marry a hot homeless woman or McDonald's worker even if I was a billionaire I keep seeing this sentiment, yet none of my male colleagues, classmates, or execs are ever married to lower class women unless it's a nanny, yoga/dance instructor, waitress/hostess etc that co.es from middle class background and specifically positioned herself to marry wealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 02:00 AM
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Where's the debate? Of course I will pick and choose traditions that please me and serve my desires, that doesn't mean men can't do the same; our interests shouldn't compete. Mutual pleasure, contentment, and satisfaction should be both our goal. Life isn't a tug of war between the sexes, work your way to the middle.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 10:37 PM
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Congratulations!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:00 PM
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Career success doesn't just happen it takes years of effort. Those years include a lot of boredom and a lot of grinding. That nice house on a tree lined street required years of saving to acquire. That saving requires forgoing fancy dates and vacations. Single women outpace single men n both these metrics. The juice has to feel worth the squeeze, often it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 05:54 PM
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Beneficial dynamic gives her the advantage due to her youth/beauty , she may net more success?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:45 PM
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Totally unsolicited auntie advice (sry, i hate that) get off the apps. Work a summer camp, hang out at a shooting range, join a jeep club, trail riders, motorcycle club, hiking group, learn to fish/hunt etc (I only mention these particular places because East Tx) Places where men outnumber women, and you'llstand out. Aim for 5 - 10 years older. Have fun. You're super cute, maybe an acquired taste best experienced in person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 10:25 PM
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Slutty, forward, crazy 304s are best for "recreational use only", but men don't take them seriously right? How is this different? Women r talking about what makes a good relationship/marriage prospect, not what gets a guy laid easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 03:33 PM
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The comment saying that the best sex is with the guys who are a glaring example of, what women claim to be, red flags isn't a nothing burger. It shows all their talk about Personality, Kindness, being good etc are just lies There are hundreds of threads on PPD telling low value women that men will sleep with them but wont commit because the standards r different (and unrelated). What's confusing about the qualities for a good sex partner being different from the qualities for a good LTR/marriage…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 03:30 PM
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no, women do tell the guy if the guy wants to know I was coming to say this. This guy launched a covert inquiry behind her back, took a friends interpretation of smthg his girl said as fact and the reason, didn't address it with his partner; but we're supposed to believe that he had the self-confidence and emotional maturity to have a discussion or take any direction from the woman he can't even trust or confront? Less than stellar sex wasn't her problem, it was a reality that she overlooked lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 03:22 PM
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So men typically propose to the woman with the best sex he's ever had and don't consider any other factors? I'm truely confused y this is controversial?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:54 PM
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Male clingyness is stalking, DV, friendzone, serial cheaters, controlling behavior, not wanting your girl to get online attn, womanizing, needing your woman financially and emotionally dependent. All male ways to seek/control connection, attention, and validation from women/partners; just different methods
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 07:34 PM
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Even seemingly normal adjusted girls. Seem to want attention or validation from their peers. Attention and validation are basic human needs, everyone wants that. Somehow society flipped to where girls and women are very vocal and demanding about our needs and desires while men are passive-aggressive and resentful about theirs. But we mostly want the same things from our romantic connections.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 06:57 PM
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Loss of fertility makes dating /relationships a lot more fun and less stressful, let me tell ya! 🫦 Definitely a selling point for the milf experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 12:16 PM
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Have you tried communicating that you aren't interested and have decided to end the relationship and cease communication?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 05:12 AM
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He's amazing at sex, I'd never participate in sex that's not intimate, fulfilling and pleasurable. He's "get's to be" because he gets every vocalized fantasy fulfilled, his kinks validated and practiced, and enthusiastic free use access. That was a huge reach to pull out smthg negative. Careful not to let that habit cloud your perception
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 04:29 AM
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Our value (to you) may diminish with age and personal flaws but wisdom and resilience increases self-worth. A person that values themselves doesn't compromise their desires as easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:22 AM
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Im single. Also sexual fantasies r harmless and can b used as a stimulant during role play and sexy time between couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 12:35 AM
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His romantic gestures, emotional support and validation, masculine presence when dealing with car/home stuff, booty rubs and foot massages, authority with the kids... with zero financial contribution, he makes my life amazing and I get to b a boss b all day and a princess from the moment i arrive home. He gets to b a hero, sex god, and a leader because not only do I love him, I need and appreciate him so much want him as happy as he makes me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 10:09 PM
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I will say, as a mom of a rizzed up teen son and having recently hung out with a group of high school teachers who's drunken stories disturbed me to my core; I believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 09:50 PM
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Right! Are these blue-collar men looking for white-collar women because there r literally facebook groups dedicated to being the wife of linemen and off-shore workers. Maybe they do better as sneaky links; but I thought the stereotypes was housewives dreaming of the pool boy. Women not wanting working class men is definitely news to me. But as usual, hes gotta be hot whether thats big burly teddy bear or muscular dream boat, or shorty with incredible rizz
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 09:28 PM
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Maybe it's an age thing; or a South thing, but I have literally never seen a blue collar man that struggles with women, most have an abundance. Its definitely an online trope, but stereotypically masculine presenting men, who can come into your life and fix stuff and romance you are outrageously hot to many women. This definitely may not be a thing until a woman is of an age where dad/brothers/uncles don't fill those roles; but homeowner women, I literally have fantasized about every man that ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 09:20 PM
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That's not really a sweet spot for male attractiveness. Even for a boytoy, that's way too much boy to be an adequate toy. Late 20s, early 30s at the lowest.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 09:07 PM
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And those women r labeled poorly by society as if adults engaging in consensual sex is a moral failure or indication of pathology; which is ridiculous and my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 08:36 PM
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Muslim women would enjoy sex with their men even more because they weren't pumped by a multiple big dicks earlier in their life. So they would genuinely be excited for their mans penis instead of just "loving" them and whatever emotional bs women insert in place of sex when they want to be with a man in a relationship. Listen when women tell u this is incredibly false when it relates to sex. A virgin wife with a less than stellar sex life just assumes something is wrong with her, or that sex isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 04:44 PM
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OkCupid online dating scene is a perfect représentation of real life All online dating is shopping a menu. Im only looking for exactly what I crave; real life organic mating is looking at the ingredients available n my kitchen and creating something satisfying. Online and statistics are not good barometers for individual human choices, behaviors, and patterns because humans r complex and life has too many variables.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 04:38 PM
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Women lie about their drive, so anything a man does to satisfy his drive can be shamed and used to control his behaviour Women deny, supress, and are unaware of their drive because society, religion, and men box us into Madonna/Whore based on our sexual expression with zero nuance. Nobody's sexual behavior is more controlled than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 04:33 PM
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I empathize with men, it's truely infuriating. My son has had adult women be overtly and aggressively sexual towards him since he was 12 and the jokes, excuses, and passive attitude of actual school administrators and Law Enforcement has been horrific. I have boy/girl twins so the discrepancy n support and resources between the sexes that I witness in real time has totally changed my attitude towards feminism and masculinity in general. Unfortunately, it's men's problem to solve and they have su…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 04:25 PM
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I completely blame myself and other single middle-aged women for our relationship outcomes: self-centered yet lack of self-awareness + poor mate selection. I still observe men shooting themselves n the foot as well
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:14 PM
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The difference between a one night stand and situationship lies n personality, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:25 PM
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I just wish a woman could explain why when a man says he has trouble dating the woman immediately assumes he isnt doing enough and the majority of the fault lies in him. Of all the different types of women in all scenarios, he's the common denominator. The bar is n hell; every type of man gets laid, and most have access to committed relationships sonif he cant, its an internal issue. Usually, he's a beta that refuses to simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:22 PM
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Sure, simply referring to y some guys find more hook up success with women than others
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:07 PM
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who has more consensual partners it is always bullies, narcisists and abusers who then go on and become wife beaters. Men who are risk takers who aren't threatened or disgusted by bodycount, competing against other suitors, or the potential of Me Too allegations. They shoot their shot relentlessly and escalate immediately; so of course they experience more success. Many times they aren't even liked or desired as much as the nice guy; they are just pushing forward while nice guy is pondering on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:05 PM
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I was n a LTR with a single dad n my 20s; nobody asked, but the expectation was definitely that I step up and take a major part of their upbringing as the woman of the house. It was an honor
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 08:13 PM
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I agree. I do think specific numbers add necessary context
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 11:23 PM
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I didn't, i very much appreciate what u added to the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 04:10 AM
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I would have always wanted her, for an hour or for good, and not knowing that and thinking it was a safe thing to say, she basically admitted that she wouldn't have wanted me. Such an interesting, man specific perception. When I got my drivers license, go carts became a lot less cool and fun; but there was a time when they were awesome. The guys from her past were essentially toys, ur a real man (fun + substance). My partner met me about 7 yrs removed from hoe phase; back then, along with sex ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 02:43 AM
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Just because a man has great qualities beyond sex doesn't diminish the likelihood that he's also sexually desirable; at least not for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 01:43 AM
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Understood. Much more likely that a woman has occasional casual sex when single and is monogamous within a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 01:42 AM
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Sexy, easy, and fun r great qualities until it's time to start building a life (which is when men say women hit the wall; but n reality its usually just natural maturing when we have a kid or build a professional/social brand, or get ready to plant and establish long term roots n a home or neighborhood). Now, those great hookup traits fall down the list of what's attractive; but the guys attractive for settling down with r guarded or resentful so the ladies remain n their comfort zone whether si…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 04:58 PM
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I don't recall stories of these being broken commitments as much as; I expect you to uphold your responsibilities as father to the children we created within our non-monagamous coupling. Men tend to project that bitter babymommas want them when in my experience and observation it's that mom wants the ability to live life as a single woman like bachelor dad but can't because he's not shouldering his responsibility (They're stuck being mom 24/7 no more yacht sexy fun); so they want to b compensate…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 04:41 PM
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"Those 365 guys didn't want u long term" Im assuming either the decision to cease contact is mutual or 1 person ghosts, y do men assume it's the man that doesn't want the woman long term knowing women typically end the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 03:28 PM
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Y do men believe that women initiate 70 - 90% of divorces, but not casual and LTR breakups?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 03:21 PM
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If a man is actually simping for them, how are they delusional? Aren't both the woman and the simp getting what they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 07:49 PM
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i never understood how women get validation through sex, lots of dudes would bang just about anything with a pulse. The validation is what the "hot guy" is willing to do or tolerate to maintain sexual access. Which, unfortunately for everyone, comes easier, faster, more plentiful, and n a more fun sexy package than the guy that's auditioning us for commitment with his guards up full of preset rules and regulations.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 07:29 PM
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100% agree. "Wife material" usually sounds like a humiliating, awful position to be in when men talk about it. Wants the least, does the most, no attention, no validation, lives for us with no expectations, and doesn't bitch at me for willing giving all these things to the disgusting sluts that we hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 08:00 PM
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A trained sex worker can perform love / lust just as well as a programmed robot is performing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 04:54 AM
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How is a lifeless fktoy a better option than a willing partner who's slightly less aroused by u 100% of the time than the GigaChads you've imagined pumping n dumping n back alleys before u? I guess she is a virgin, technically. There's that, but im sure many hands and instruments have been n that bot vag.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 04:50 AM
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They're not exceptional men; they're exceptional at curating/maintaining a fun, sexy, carefree vibe to make the woman feel comfortable tossing inhibitions out with him. He doesn't even have to b particularly attractive. A very specific skillset, idk if it can b manufactured
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:45 PM
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How many would be seen in public with the bbws they watch in porn Do yall not see obese women coupled all the time n public? Big women r aware of the perception, so we probably insist on PDA and dating more than most. Any fat focused show, the women r rarely single and usually being spoiled n some way; that's been my real life experience. Most of the bbw's n my family domme hot /mid guys, even the elders. My current partner is always lamenting about how arrogant bbws have become, no more easy la…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:31 PM
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laundry list of things that need to be met before even letting a guy take her out and pay for her dinner. It takes a lot of effort for a guy to maintain a situationship/fwb. "Arrangements" aren't reciprocal; it's 100% the guy incentivising the woman to allow him to continue his non-committal BS, whatever that means for her (assuming he wants exclusivity). I suspect it's a reason modern dating has flipped so much with women's lack of effort to get wifed
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:54 AM
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When I day "happier single " it doesn't mean I prefer being single; it means Im less neurotic, more productive, enjoy my guilty pleasures more, spend more time with friends and family, enjoy an overall "happier" quality of life; but I prefer affection, romance, and commitment (anxious preoccupied attachment style)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:43 AM
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...and he'll also take more risks approaching, escalating, and controlling relationships with women. Thus, more successful than the anxious, reserved, or conservative guy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 09:58 PM
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Paraplegics and amputees find love and marriage in the absence of PIV sex all the time. You may have to share that 1 part of ur relationship with other men, but the love and companionship r all yours
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:36 AM
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Helps to train better and correct form when you can see ur whole body,; sweaty TShirts get n the way, reveal way more than sports bra when bending over; tight clothing feels better from a sensory input standpoint (compression); hidden curves make wmn appear boxy and unflattering curves cant b hidden may as well flaunt them; many singles go to the gym to meet like minded singles
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:57 PM
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girls are taught to be delicate, submissive and nurturing Men + society keep reinforcing that this isn't happening. Who solves single, especially unattractive women's problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:12 PM
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She'd only do the same (as she should) until you make it official. Explicitly.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 12:30 AM
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She's quite literally saying that the things she appreciated, enjoyed, and misses from her ex; she's actually capable of doing for herself. If they weren't enough, as u mentioned, she wouldn't feel compelled to replicate his actions. "Insatiable" sounded so sexy when Prince sung it, but many of us want our partners to never cease efforts to please us and make us happy 🤷🏾‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 06:34 PM
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the woman never having to worry about the man cheating/leaving her, This typically plays out horrifically opposite in reality. "Settling " for a man is a huge confidence boost for him, your female influence on his fashion, fitness, diet, and personality will make him more attractive and approachable and he will almost always step out if not completely jump ship.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 05:31 PM
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It can't possibly be that difficult to concepualize that attraction (even physical and sexual) involves far more than outward appearance; and dating, mating, relationships, and marriage involve far more than attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 05:09 PM
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Sometimes they do date women; sometimes they try but aren't fans of vag but they eventually partner with women platonically
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 02:23 PM
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We only care when you don't take responsibility for when it goes wrong. What does "taking responsibility " look like, who determines if she has or not, who enforces if her male partners also take responsibility? Or is the responsibility to deny easy hot sex from eager desirable mates only placed on women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 03:45 AM
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High risk/high reward. Bullies don't anxiously wait for a signal to approach nor cower n fear at rejection
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:28 AM
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They also present a threat to older women So, post wall men don't want to be beta bucks; but post wall women want to shame and bully men into settling for them, knowing he would rather b with an adolescent? Thats our happily ever after story, some washed up perv getting stuck with us?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:41 AM
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remember a girl in highschool or something whos boyfriend is in or finished college or is just a lot older And now that you're an adult, find those exact girls on social media and tell me if you think dating older men was a good decision. How many older men actually married their young girls instead of using and most likely impregnating them to move on to even younger girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:37 AM
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Also its hilarious how its always people who dated much older men when they were 18, are the same people who have a problem with age gap dating once they reach that mans age Ur so close to getting it. The reason u don't see successfully married couples or women promoting age gap relationships is because they experienced resentment, manipulation, exploitation and a loss of their youth. You dont realize how horrific and predatory it was until u've survived it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:51 AM
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One spouses reality no longer matches the other spouses' perception. He's may b responding to her emotions with facts and tangibles rather than support and validation or vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 03:50 AM
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It's not likely, practical, natural. or logical to expect healthy functioning adults to practice abstinence for a lengthy period of time; especially if they continue to engage in intimate social and romantic interaction with their object of their sexual desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 04:51 PM
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Slutshaming is pointless (and mean.)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 11:38 PM
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Slutshaming: If the measurement for a "good woman" is finding a husband and having children, the likelyhood that she will settle for a man that might not be her sexual preference but can help raise a child is higher, meaning more long term happiness for the individual woman, for the majority of men, and wellness of society longterm This is today's reality. Women are shamed against their nature (sexual openness and exploration) and desires so they suppress to the point of resentment and shut down…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 11:25 PM
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There almost always has to be an intention behind meeting someone intimately of another generation. The speculation around that attention leads to assumptions
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:14 AM
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Not strange at all; but I also believe in setting up "friendzone guys" and guys that I may have casually dated with my friends as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 03:11 AM
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Also low effort, low cost dopamine boost
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 02:20 AM
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Overindulgence
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 02:19 AM
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A career woman is not the same thing as an employed woman. A career woman means that she is striving constantly for higher positions in a field, Thats not true. A teacher doesn't strive to be principal, those r entirely different career trajectories; a nurse will likely end her career as a nurse who works less, not striving for leadership. Outside of very few corporate industries, it's way more common for men and women to settle into mid-level comfort than the Boss B narrative that men seem to p…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 01:45 AM
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I meant as homely as in a homebody with nondescript physical appearance (not too hot, too shapely, or too fashionable) . But none of it makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 01:33 AM
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It's like the powerful want to remain, or gain more, power Isn't that what everyone wants? Who voluntarily surrenders power?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 01:27 AM
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Its not even just women, we whole heartedly acknowledge it in men too. That is why we had the whole Alpha/Beta thing in the first place. But y do men shame Betas when Im sure the overwhelming majority of modern men fit into that category. Shouldn't manosphere focus on helping beta men to feel confident, useful, competent, and respected?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 01:07 AM
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Sarah doesn't have a job or career and she has a family that has time to spend with her? What do they do? What has she done days/ her life from 18-21 if single? Who pays for gym, healthy food, etc? I know it's an example but im genuinely curious what guys think the day to day life is for the beautiful, homely virgin thats waiting on a man to come and be her everything?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 01:02 AM
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As an older woman. I'd say they r more likely to be playing along with ur game to get their rocks off, and they think they're manipulating you. Who would assume younger men are more committal? Older wmn have likely been n the dating game a while, they're not dumb, we know men like to think they're n charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 01:47 AM
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This! Men shout their standards from the rooftop that don't really require anything from women past the first date, then whine about women not doing anything. You said u want attractive, nonfat, low count. What am I supposed to be doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 04:30 AM
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Why does a space have to be male only or male led in order for men to mentor?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 07:53 PM
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Offer like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 03:24 AM
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Have you explained your interests in terms of kink? I've had a partner that wanted me to discuss previous sexual encounters; and I was initially put off until we did a little research about "hotpast" kinks. As a woman, we fear judgment as most men would definitely judge, but with lots of reassurance and aftercare, it's really hot for both. He said his into to sex was the dirty hotlines pre internet and it reminded him of those experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 02:49 AM
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Im way more attracted to my friendzone guy than a few guys that I've dated while I've known him. He just hovers, endlessly, over there. I have no idea what to do with him besides humor him occasionally, I like him though
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 02:40 AM
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Why wouldn't the argument be that more men need to become doctors? Do men limit themselves and stifle their goals for hypothetical strangers?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 09:46 PM
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Traveling, shopping, "self care" are dopamine boosters; a lot of us have luxury habits that are validating and enjoyable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 09:44 PM
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Moat women don't intentionally forego marriage and family. They pursue their goals while simultaneously dating and as they remain single pursue new ventures or move up the corporate ladder (and perhaps rack up a few bodies). It seems gys expect that we're suspended in ice until we're chosen. How would u suggest young single women spend their time? Whats the plan if they're never chosen?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 09:41 PM
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What time period was this the tradition? Was it reflected in your family? How do the women describe their day to day? She doesn't work, she doesn't leave the house, she doesn't dress to impress, she isn't interacting with other men, she's remaining a virgin until marriage, she takes care of the children, she obeys her husband, etc. I can't imagine a fully functional adult choosing this life. My children wouldn't even comply with this setup.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 09:18 PM
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If u spend your present focusing on your past; happiness and fulfillment will continue to evade you. The people that enjoyed the life u missed out on had qualities u didn't have and took risks u weren't willing to take. They may have peaked then, wherebur flourishing now. Focus on the cards n ur hand, serenity prayer
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 08:05 PM
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What is husband material? A guy you can use and not be attracted to and make him beg for your attention? A stable, monogamous guy that Im head over heels n love with, and he worships me. We'll absolutely use ach other, we're not useless; if im not attracted and have to beg for attn, then he's not husband material (for me).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 11:44 PM
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Biologically men have 0 responsibility after conception Which is why family court balances out the responsibility (to avoid unplanned pregnancy) by financially penalizing the non-custodial men. Men have as much opportunity to protect their seed and money as women have to protect their womb and freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 09:06 PM
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Y'all give young women way too much credit. They're having fun; who checks their watch (biological clock) while they're on a roller coaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 08:57 PM
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Im 40+ and unmarried as r my unmarried friends. We go to fancy restaurants with men that we have love and/or sex with on 1st dates, Saturday nights, celebrations, or just when we want to play dressup. The main difference n "post wall" dating is that guys spend less effort trying to impress us; but there's more mutual relating to and genuinely enjoying each other, and everyone's standards are more practical but tolerance is much lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 08:51 PM
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Precisely. Young women were as flaky then as they r now; even if she chose a "bad boy" the dads, uncles, society, etc trained him and held him to the standard of marrying her and supporting his family until the 1980s or so (or the elder women encouraged her to quickly find and marry a responsible guy asap if she got pregnant)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 08:40 PM
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Hes a rich, muscular, charismatic celebrity and i cant recall 5 women throughout his 30 year career. The high ranking pharmaceutical exec may not find hooking up so easy or worth the risks
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 08:33 PM
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Fancy restaurants tend to be overrun with twenty-somethings where u live? They're literally the main 40+ dating scene everywhere I've been. Also, when we actually love a guy we prefer intimate 1:1 settings; high $$ standards r to earn respect, not love
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 08:29 PM
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started working allot on myself every day, and achieved more success in finance, physically and emotionally. You didn't even settle for your old self but you resent women for not settling for you? That's logical or emotional?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 08:17 PM
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what made them change their mids all of a sudden? It's not sudden, it's very gradual actually. In my 20s, I wouldn't even sign a 12 month lease for an apartment because I wasn't sure where life would take me throughout the year; now I have a mortgage and looking at purchasing a vacation house In youth, I valued spontaneity and freedom, now I value stability and comfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 08:13 PM
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all single now feeling sorry because the good men Don't want them anymore They're way more likely to be sorry because they're not attracted to men that are "good." Women never run out of options for courtship. They literally actively date in senior communities and nursing homes. It's that the limerance and romance of dating wanes with age and responsibilities
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 08:04 PM
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Females never picked men; marriage was always a decision heavily influenced (if not demanded) by family, church, and community (see shotgun weddings)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 07:53 PM
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why are a lot of women sleeping around with guys that are players and couldn't care less about them because women are socialized to relate guilt and shame with our sexuality. (see constant bodycount discussions/ "Cant turn a hoe into a housewife") So if we're sooo deviant to enjoy sex for pleasure rather than marriage bait; it only makes sense to participate with other deviants or sexy guys who's judgement we won't care about because he's not husband material
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 07:50 PM
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Wealthy men and women use exclusive dating sites with expensive fees and professional matchmaking services because they struggle to get (or properly vet) mates.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 07:26 PM
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I don't believe this is a real-life common experience. But I do believe that the disconnect lies n the way the question is asked. "What would you like your husband to earn?" 200k (wishful) vs "have u ever ended a relationship / refused to date someone because of $? That answer would usually be of course not. The reality is usually no because when u actually like someone, you figure it out. A wishlist (6ft/6in/6fig) is not a standard. It's a very pointless discussion because both men and women wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 07:11 PM
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I can't imagine a scenario where I would know or care.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 04:24 PM
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why do many of them complain those men cheat Dating would be a lot easier for PPD men if they just realized that women complain. We are vocal about our feelings, annoyances, criticisms, etc. It's not always a call to action; for ourselves or the person we complain to or about.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 02:21 PM
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Women that seek financial arrangements are typically clear on the perception by their man and by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 02:17 PM
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A delicate dance; Keith Lee's super cute story definitely should've landed him a 90-day jail stint https://x.com/SRTerrio_/status/1724490109733499147?t=frgGt1ufG67F7_lFb4iJHg&s=34
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 07:08 PM
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Seduction beats domination or aggression every time n the quest for power.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 04:34 PM
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That same chick would also call Tyrone a bum or a dog but he's more focused on getting his own needs met; when good guy backs off he bulldozes forward. Maybe stop giving an F what people think or say.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 04:25 PM
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Why r these women delusional vs. altruistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 03:28 PM
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The subtext was that "some"woman will b lucky to have you. That woman may be undesirable, unattractive, needy & dependent, or with excess weight or baggage. They were referring to your utility as a nice guy, ultimately working in your favor to provide financial and emotional resources; not ur humanity, and what u want and need from a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 02:39 PM
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You are SUCH a great guy! You will make a great boyfriend" or "some woman will be lucky to have you!" Yes, a woman that doesn't prioritize arousal, a woman that needs your resources, a woman with low self esteem that needs your niceness, etc... It's only recently that men expressed resentment toward beta buxxing; those women were anticipating needy post-wall being ur time to shine
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 01:50 PM
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It's not a "high" standard, but people are delaying marriage further into adulthood now a days, and sexually active adults will usually reproduce before menopause. Plus, many women won't develop the homemaking, nurturing, validating, complacent qualities that PPD guys seem to look for in a wife until motherhood forces us to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:28 PM
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So then single mom and stepdad r n the same position now that they both have what the other wants (or is willing to embrace)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:56 PM
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You do realize that most women aren't attractive enough to rely on beauty to attract a man no matter how young we are?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 05:11 PM
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women have every right to pursue who they are attracted to or choose to be alone. Precisely, so do men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 04:27 PM
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Women are absolutely encouraged to settle, from childhood through adulthood, by everyone. "Bad boy" phases r literally a rebellion to the demand that we should settle for who's more practical vs. pleasurable. Men get to pick whoever they want whenever they get ready with everyone's full support. The only time people have anything to say about a mans mate selection is when he fails, even then nobody's saying "hey buddy, u need to marry fats, sluts, and single moms" its u know who actually would b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:47 PM
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How is the cuck not the guy that has another man married to the woman he couldn't keep or control and raising his child?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:51 PM
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And those guys couldn't date those women n their prime. But when they find each other at the right time, should they embrace resentment or each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 01:35 PM
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So he'll live out his twilight years with a compatible, loving, supportive partner (Im assuming you and your siblings are adults ao it's not like either of them r sticking around for the kids) ; while team "no single moms" continues to linger n lonliness and fantasize about the extremely rare likelihood of maintaining a successful marriage with a younger woman. You said yourself that u love him and he's happy; so he should've sacrificed his real love and family for some hypothetical woman with n…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 01:25 PM
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All people that eventually found their partner to be a "lying, cheating pos" had their trust violated by their partner so even if I feel hurt and attacked by him not trusting me, I'm still going to get over myself and support him confirming paternity so he can get on with bonding without any lingering doubt. I'd expect him to reassure and support me n any other instance where i question his trustworthiness for whatever reason, especially if it's an uncommon occurrence
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 01:10 PM
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Much like the men n this group, they have fears and concerns about paternity before even meeting their spouse, and he'd have those same concerns regardless of who his spouse is because they're about him and his child. And I suggested no such thing about the workload of parenting; that's ridiculous; of course we have to do and go through more; that still doesn't justify denying his request that doesn't harm me or our child because I'm offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 10:01 AM
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I have insecurities and trust issues that are often misplaced and illogical. Thats a me issue. If my partner is genuinely trusting and supportive but raises a fear about the most important people n his life and future; and 1 act could absolve his worries, I can't justify to myself not doing it. Plus, every victim of paternity fraud trusted the mother of his child; that trust worked against them, every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:32 AM
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I just don't understand y I would make paternity testing a point of contention with my partner. Sure it indicates a lack of trust, but thats about him, his fears, and his traumas and has nothing to do with me. As much as we expect our men to support and appease us during pregnancy, childbirth, and raising a family I think its cruel to deny him that reassurance because it offends me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:15 AM
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I completely agree with men that paternity testing should happen automatically at childbirth. I think women that disagree would quickly change their stance if some girl claimed she was pregnant with their son's baby. I think regardless of the level of trust between partners, the stakes r way too high to not address any looming insecurity. I believe the same about prenuptial agreements. I call out my friend and family on this topic frequently; I don't call strangers because my speech is too nuanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 01:17 AM
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That makes sense. The love may be unconditional, but the relationship has requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 01:11 AM
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20+ year LCSW here, I didn't allude to a cause, but what internal triggers r abusers maladaptively coping with? (Rhetorical, its what i stated among a vast # of other things individualized to the person). I didn't mention gender in my example at all, everyone has to fulfill something to be loved by someone else; even if its only a sense of duty or obligation
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 11:40 PM
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And parents often abuse and abandon their children when they fail to validate them, amuse them, demonstrate gratitude, competence, or make parent's feel altruistic enough. No person is loved without serving a purpose, even pets
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 11:10 PM
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Men are “loved” as long as their useful to whom ever Its so strange that either you think this is unique to men, or that women are essentially useless. All relationships, whether romantic, familial, or social, require both parties to meet each others needs in order to sustain men and boys should’t let themselves be too emotionally , financially or even physically vulnerable and dependent on anyone or anything This is literally the reason men perceive that they're not loved. Emotionally guarded, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 11:05 PM
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evidence I have is working with colleagues who are wealthy in an industry that overrepresents with folks in the top 10%. Your colleagues openly discuss the sexual history of their wives?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:04 PM
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So when CEOs marry the secretary they cheated with they think she's sexually conservative? The Dr's here definitely don't mind a "ran thru" nurse, pharmaceutical rep girl, or fellow physician. Frat guys grow up and marry sorority party girls all the time sometimes while still n school with full knowledge of her rep. I've actually not observed the opposite from Mgr level to C Suite executive, to entrepreneur. Sure, they want a woman well pedigreed that will behave appropriately in social settings…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 06:00 PM
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I've never observed concern due to jealousy, age gap correlates with likelihood of divorce so most women know he'll be back on the market rather quickly, humbled and realistic. A lot of women (myself included) project their own personal fears and beliefs to young women and r triggered by the topic. Personally, it depends on the level of exploitation; structured financial compensation makes it seem more like an even exchange. A middle-aged guy that feels entitled, attracted, or aroused by a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:18 AM
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Is there a phenomenon of promiscuous women intentionally seeking sexually conservative men, I've never seen nor heard of that? Sexually expressive women r rarely lonely, even n old age who doesn't love a saucy old broad with a lifetime of great hookup stories? treat sex like some sort of meaningless act you can do with anyone The act of sex is meaningless, which is y P in V sex during rape is traumatic vs. sex during a hookup vs. sex in a loving, committed relationship. If there were a greater s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 11:53 PM
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advanced masturbation. even more reliably satisfying?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 10:52 PM
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That's unfortunate. It sounds like you did have a special connection with this girl that met ur needs, but not wants. That's the story of countless single women that pass on "good" guys. Our standards mean nothing without connection, and vice versa. Most end up compromising one way or the other. Good luck finding love + respect from a woman that is all u desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:50 PM
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My children r teens and I don't plan to have more. But if being a homemaker is ur role/job then u should b able to keep it as clean as a daycare/restaurant/children's store. The dynamic doesn't work when the stay at home spouse doesn't apply standards and work ethic to their job. Thats unfair to the working spouse who is meeting financial expectations and company standards. I'd resent that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 10:10 PM
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maybe she got fat or turned into a nagging bitch So women leave for a man that values and desires a fat nagging bitch. Nobody assigned fault, just answering the question of what's important to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 01:44 PM
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I wish! For some reason, his wardrobe is the hill he chooses to die on.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 10:19 PM
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Any sex worker will tell you, they perform nearly as much comforting and fake nurturing lonely men as sexual acts. Its y bartenders and strippers need more rizz than body.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 08:12 PM
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For a single income dynamic to work, I'd expect my home to be cleaned to the standard into a 5 star resort every day complete with pleasantries to make me happy (flowers, bubble baths); all medical appts, tutoring, extracurriculars, therapies; PTA and represent us as a school/community volunteer; all home and maintenance and repairs,;manage extended family responsibilities; plan our weekends, vacations, and social calendar etc. If home is your responsibility, then the bare minimum shouldn't b th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 07:46 PM
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I've experienced both dynamics where the man is the sole financial provider and where I am. I love my career (medical also) and hate domestic chores, so I prefer the latter. I have a guy friend who's wife is a Nurse Practioner, he's rarely worked at all yet is fully invested in caring for her, the home, and their family. Their home and children are pristine, he posts beautifully prepared meals, he represents them well at school and n the community, and hes very outwardly romantic; you can see th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 07:28 PM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/08/03/almost-1-in-5-stay-at-home-parents-in-the-us-are-dads/#:~:text=The%20share%20who%20are%20stay,mothers%20and%207%25%20of%20fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 06:58 PM
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That dynamic only exists for 23% of women (7% of men). Otherwise, both partners work and contribute (with almost 40% of wives contributing equal or more financially)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 06:20 PM
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Both things can b true. Make bad relationship choices n youth, then over 35 "good" men aren't interested. "Amazing guy" may genuinely love a woman, but struggle with making her FEEL desired, seduced, accepted, and secure. Women tend to filter reality through emotions before logic. Even more sonif they have a hx of trauma. Learning to overcome that takes maturity + experience + practice. Unfortunately, men refer to it as "the wall" vs growth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 06:16 PM
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Men, IME, have a very difficult time verbalizing, quantifying, and teaching girls and women what they want. 1. Virginity /sexual exclusivity (that ship sailed b4 we met), 2. respect (y r we even n the same room, let alone dating or relationship if u don't feel that I respect u), sex (see #1 &#2 and uphold ur standards accordingly). If your desires r minimal, then u will consistently receive minimal effort because, again, what do u even want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 05:58 PM
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I avoid assuming the gender and/or marital status of strangers. Its easier to apply the same terminology "partner" to everyone to avoid confusion
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 05:43 PM
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"Dont need a man" as in I don't need a male spouse to marry me to maintain my personal existence and quality of life; NOT men don't need to exist. There's plenty of neurodivergent black and white thinking on this sub, but this misinterpretation is by far the stupidest.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 08:30 PM
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There is no human being on earth that is allowed to exist free from judgment and criticism. Live your life according to your own integrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 03:55 AM
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Hmm, I've observed experienced women to be more realistic (i guess cynical) and compromising, whereas women that still believe in fairy tales that their lives can't mirror harbor more resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/23 07:59 PM
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Goodness and commitment have nothing to do with a man's duty to his children, it's not about mom
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 03:06 AM
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A cuck is mostly seen as low value. That's not true at all; quite the opposite, actually. Submission (and cuckoldry) are a demonstration of loyalty, trust, and acceptance. Kinks are complex, don't yuck other people's yum.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 01:23 PM
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80% of women have unrealistic standards? Why do they do this to themselves? You only need 1 woman, don't get hung up on the majority
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 01:02 PM
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Confident men desire admirable women. It's the insecure one's that feel the need to trap someone beneath them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 10:10 PM
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Plenty of women brag about sex during dating and how they feel so boosted that he desires her. Libido often diminishes for women when seduction, anticipation, and excitement decline n the comfort of relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 09:58 PM
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Completely agree, hyperindependence and nomadic lifestyles are poisonous. Stronger family/community bonds are better for everyone! (though Indian men only hold the virtue standard for their own women, they don't typically hold themselves or white women to the same standards) Also note, there is very strong pressure and support for men and women to marry shortly into adulthood which eliminates the "slutty" behavior that Americans deal with as aging bachelor's and bachelorette's.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 07:01 PM
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Men can only raise their standards when they provide value, and Indian -American are top notch beta bux. There's your answer! A woman will keep herself in shape, tone down her demands and attitude, and meet the desires and whims for a man that improves her lifestyle dramatically. This is beyond financial btw. But naturally beta men that refuse to be beta buxed won't ever experience that reward because they refuse to promote mutually beneficial companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 06:00 PM
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I have a cousin like that. Loves to fight, commit crimes, do hard drugs, 4 kids, 4 babydaddies, at least 2 engagements. All but 1 of her BD's are stand-up, family-oriented, blue-collar guys (the outlier, I assume she doesn't know the dad). Ironically, she's very sweet and mild-mannered but very easily triggered, and I suspect mentally challenged, has PTSD, impulsive and always n survival mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 02:13 PM
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So, having children is completely about you, your needs, and your status? Biological children are humans and can be full of surprises (criticisms and resentments) as well. I've rarely seen a person that doesn't hold their own stepdad n the highest regard, often above his own mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 11:34 PM
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to define the average man in USA. Your everyday man who’s 5’9. Making 50k, drives a ford, overweight, in his mid 30’s with at least a highschool diploma & plain faced looking. A woman who's 5'5, hitches rides to/fro her job at Applebee's making 17k is overweight with 2 kids would not only respect this avg man, he'd b her hero.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 03:56 PM
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And Russel married a young woman without children that cheated on him with his teammate before he fell for Ciara. Two broken people chose each other; he cld have held that bitterness toward women forever like RP/PP/MGOTOW and wld have remained a bitter cuck with plenty of options but zero respect or legacy like Future.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:25 PM
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back then the rates of single motherhood, abortion and STD were very low. "Back then" wives weren't far removed from puberty
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:45 AM
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Right. Masculinity is of no use to women or children outside of "simping." Guys are now talking themselves into lonliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 12:39 AM
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1) Choose an average or unattractive guy who will stay loyal to you only because he knows he wont have many options This fails n reality because a wife/girlfriend wld improve the guy's wardrobe, appearance, and confidence then he'll get female attention and become a cheating asshole that resents wife for being plain or wants to sample "better"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 01:10 PM
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Most women on 600lb life, biggest loser, honey boo boo etc r coupled; often by a man that adores and literally serves them. Quality is a different discussion
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 01:00 PM
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They were pushing you to what now is considered beta buxing; until manosphere, I think women assumed that being the relationship guy was a man's ultimate goal
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 11:06 PM
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In this scenario, he's specifically dating an older lady just to use her; from my friends that have flings with younger guys, I think that's already understood though
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 12:38 PM
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Idk. Who decided that people needed to be categorized as good or bad? Use discernment when interacting with people and proceed with caution.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:31 AM
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Both those examples treat most people with kindness and decency, which is my point. We're all a villan in someone's story, whether we're aware or not. A persons ability to find light n darkness isn't always about attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:19 AM
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Doing a bad thing doesn't make you a bad person. The worst thing you've ever done doesn't eliminate the great things you do. A violent drug dealer can b a loving and attentive dad; a devoted and revered pastor can be a violent child rapist. People aren't all good or evil. We're complex and dynamic and capable of a full range of actions given the circumstance and opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 03:08 AM
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Work, coach/volunteer with kids, honestly idk, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 10:24 PM
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And I tip my hat and honor those men; many of us throw thousands of dollars and years of study specifically to avoid those industries
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 09:51 PM
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father is usually better looking, normally taller, normally more confident, normally more physically fit. imposing, normally in better shape with the body etc A mom realizes that arrogance, narcissism, and self indulgence mean zero and can actually be quite annoying especially when the dad is competing with the children for attention and affection. So her desires change. Case n point: I found myself lusting over the ROTC guy at my daughter's school. Not because of his looks (cldnt pick him out n…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 09:33 PM
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Find a milf or a domme, become her boy toy, learn how to sex, let her build ur confidence and swagger. The Barney Stinson method. Btw, its gross for the guy and predatory of the woman, but it works
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 09:17 PM
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Right. Getting a desk to the face by unruly students and relentlessly judged by every tax paying citizen for 50k is so cushy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 09:12 PM
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What did women do to make men decide that they would live complete full lives before settling down, but women better settle fresh out of school? When did middle aged become prime (but only for men?)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 08:09 PM
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Im past 40, with an amazing partner. Women r not walking around delusional, we've adapted and adjusted to the market. Everyone I know dates average and below, but I no longer know many women young or old that r waiting and competing for marriage. The young adults r dating at their level, but they're also broken and traumatized from life. If "good men" r holding youthful foolishness against the women once they grow up, the ladies figure it out and adjust. Aunties aren't really old maids anymore; …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 07:59 PM
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Women standards have always been the same, Beta men just decided they would not exist n that role n the last 10 years. Men used to know they had to come with incentives to get a woman to marry them; women just had to show up and keep house. The economy changed the function of modern marriage faster than we've all had time to adjust.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 07:10 PM
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I think dating was better when both parties essentially married immediately when they became adults. My parents were 17 & 19, I think the average age of 1st marriage n the 1970s was 21 -23. Now men want to grow, build, and explore well into their 30s but expect women to remain underemployed, chaste, naive, and dependent like a child until they're ready to come along and "lead." It's very stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 07:05 PM
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men wanting to fuck you or "hit it and quit it" doesn't automatically mean that they find you desirable. Do you find that a lot of well functioning adult men prefer to "hit it and quit it?" Even if a guy desires only sex with me, the price is that he still has to take care of me and my children, date, travel, social functions, household mgmt, the whole 9 and I still have to feel loved and cared for. Consistently. He can call it what he wants and commit to who and when he wants; my needs r gettin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:50 PM
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No, "women bad" for doing what I'd like to do once Im able to
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:53 PM
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I don't care about a woman settling. I care about her doing it at age 30+ when her best looking days are in the past. Then she wants to settle So women shouldn't date the best-looking men during her best looking days because you want her when she's best looking?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 04:50 PM
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IME, the early stages of dating a higher quality guy may feel like a job interview; while the lower quality guy may immediately treat me like his addiction. Narcissistic and unhealthy as it is (love-bombing), it takes an extreme level of self-discipline as a single person on the dating scene to keep auditioning when you're already the star of someone else's show (especially if he's hotter). It's definitely an idiotic practice, but there's your explanation. The way you make a woman feel is often …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 09:57 PM
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Its like many on this sub (maybe it's an age thing) but people don't just have a crush or find themselves attracted to a classmate, coworker, neighbor, friend of a friend etc and just hang out or shoot their shot just because they like/enjoy them without all the qualifiers? Everything is so data driven and quantified. What a bummer!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 09:33 PM
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I just made a comment yesterday about cheaters getting a lot of their emotional needs met through their relationships and interactions with the opposite sex. Though sex is usually involved, the fulfillment snd drive to continue goes far beyond sex and attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 06:50 PM
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I wonder if female aversion to obligatory sex is rooted in trauma history? For myself, any attempt I've made at having sex with someone I'm not organically attracted to reminds me of enduring molestation, so I can't do it no matter how great or attractive the guy. I suspect that's a less common problem for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 06:28 PM
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There is a reason women go to alphas trying to make them commit by giving them sex to be pumped and dumped. ... So they settle for their equal beta bux The reality is that anyone accustomed to a constant stream of attention, affection, validation, sex, and resources will struggle to voluntarily shut off all of those sources to place themselves at the mercy of one imperfect person. Men totally get that when they discuss high N-Count wmn and pair bonding; but when its the male equivalent 'Chad' th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 05:22 PM
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cuddles and weekly starfish sex. My squishy, cuddly, starfish sex is what my muscular 'Alphas 🙄' enjoy the most. Im supposed to pursue less attractive 'nice guys' that r repulsed by my sex and feel Im not worthy of their best due to my appearance? Compatibility is more important than similarity, that gets left out of these conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 02:40 PM
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most women don't find most men attractive. Most women dont have to find a man physically attractive to be attracted to him. (And aren't attracted to every man we find physically attractive) Looks are only one metric in a varied attraction profile; being exceptional in a myriad of other areas will cause a woman to feel attracted to a man who's looks she doesn't prefer. Thats y women sound disingenuous describing our type: it could b a completely different combination of factors according to the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 10:49 PM
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The niche isn't the cheating. it's the excruciating, unnecessary details that the women volunteer during/after sex. Multiple women. Intriguing. Poster may discover a nice kink if he leans into it that wld set him apart from the rest and arouse the wmn he inadvertently attracts
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:33 PM
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Take the bass out of ur fingers, Im pro short man love! Those terms were created long b4 that recent and relevant pop culture example. Like all the rest of us n the dating game; for every 1 thing that works against us, add 2 more positives. Pro athlete is violent (neg), but tall, fine, rich, and barely home (positives). The below 5'7 men that left a lasting impact on me were more charismatic, seductive, handsome, and sexually dominant than the tall guys. Both their wives r super hot too and they…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 10:37 PM
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Love - arousal/attraction = friendship
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 07:24 PM
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Respectfully, your repeated experience shows that you're attracted to a niche personality type. Thats not typical woman or dating behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 02:21 PM
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Absolutely! Thx
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:13 PM
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How r u so confident about Fat Beckys life and y wld she choose a life of drunken bar sex over relationship/marriage with a man that loves her? And if these guys r such desirable 6/6/6s, y wld he bypass all of his options out of desperation? You can make the argument that less attractive women may fulfill a fetish for desirable men, but even that comes with competition to b the most desirable of the undesirables. And it takes way more than secret sex to keep a woman from moving on to a more bene…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:35 PM
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My son is 14, he has a personality disorder. A really cute girl actually took him out on his first date, but he still parrots Tate rhetoric. My brother is a recluse, he's always had Social Anxiety. My parents r demanding, critical, and completely lack affection or empathy. My response was to be a promiscous, competitive, perfectionist, overachiever. I parented similarly until therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:39 PM
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Both my brother and my son r very attractive incels with crippling low self-esteem and self-worth. As a woman, i can sit and watch 5 beautiful women flirt with them very openly n one outing, but their negative disposition and defeated mindset makes every positive interaction some type of exception that shouldn't be pursued. It's fear based. It's actually what draws me to PPD/RP content, I find it fascinating
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:18 PM
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Who's against cold approaching? Just take apathy or outright rejection as rejection and keep it moving quickly without issue. Compliment, ask for socials/number quickly b4 it gets annoying, send follow-up msg shortly after, escalate if u get a positive response, ABORT MISSION if no response/negative/lukewarm if ur gonna b bitter about it, circle back once weekly or monthly if its cool
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 04:10 PM
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Fat Becky 🙋‍♀️ spends 100s of dollars on grooming, skin care, shops for hours, and wears clothing to accentuate her assets, develops an alluring personality, has some sexual tricks n her bag, and realizes that she cant b on easy mode if she wants to pull Chad's attention from Hot Stacy, Plain Jane, Milf Molly, and the Landwhale Lisa. Chad has options, right? No cheat codes, we all have to compete.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:48 PM
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It doesn't, it means try clothing on n the fitting room, size up, size down, different lenghts. Get opinions, take selfies to see the difference n how your clothing sits on your body. This can be done at a thrift store, fast fashion, or department. The women that guys mock for seeking social media validation are also doing market research on their desirability. They know which cuts r flattering, which angles look best, what colors generate good response, etc. If men have a problem with desirabil…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:40 PM
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Women dolling ourselves up takes 100s of dollars a month and typically longer than 20min.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:33 PM
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My friend and I saw a guy at a furniture store, he was like 500lbs, maybe 5'10 pushing himself around n a rolling office chair instead of walking; his cologne was so alluring and he had so much rizz, we were both swooning ovr him even after we left the store. It was a Prada scent (can't rememberwhich one), we asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:30 PM
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Haircut, bald, beard, quality undershirt, tailored clothing...there r plenty of beauty boosts that make a huge difference n men's appearance
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:18 PM
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Like when Meg the Stallion dated Tori Lanez? "Short man syndrome ", "napoleon complex" smaller guys tend to b more aggressive, not passive
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 03:14 PM
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Druski is a perfect example of the body shape they prefer. big + tall but exceptionally stylish. My bestie prefers short + chubby / stocky : Jonah Hill, Lil Rel also very stylish for some reason
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:01 PM
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Shitty people raise children all the time and always have; how would they know the level of shit dad there guy will become. Bum guys are attentive AF n relationships, usually its their only positive trait. You'd expect that would carry over into fatherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:36 PM
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There are plenty of social media groups for women chasing "Big Handsome Men." Of course, not nearly as much as BBWs, but the movement is coming along nicely
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:39 PM
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I've always been the only one n my friend group that's not exclusively into fat guys. I didn't even realize it was a thing until I joined this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:36 PM
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Idk, probably. Prince, did he count? Now Im not sure which guy fits the criteria
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:03 PM
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Feminine facial structure, crossdressing / gender bending style, sexual fluidity
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 04:13 PM
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Yea, its also y single moms r easier. If im paying a sitter and have very precious limited kid free time, I don't want to spend it across a table doing PG rated stuff 😁😬
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:34 PM
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Most men 35+ that are "dating" college aged girls are getting used for their wallet Anyone alive n the 80s remembers this exact scenario playing out already (+coke). May/December marriages dont last, so sir...you'll be back, divorced with young kids, significantly less $$, low T, and defeated. Enjoy your heyday but try to stay humble and you may find a milf/gilf to settle with eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 02:10 PM
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If the change were meaningless, then the weightloss wouldn't have occurred. Physical attraction, fitness, nutrition, and physical compatibility is very important n a long or short term relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 01:53 PM
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Because guys assume its desperation and not that a 30yo single mom has a job and family and very limited time to play coy, court or wait if they want to date. My kids r older and I'd say I have maybe 8hrs on a good week to make things happen wiith a guy. How much of that do u think we're gonna spend playing hard to get?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 12:46 PM
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I just made the observation over the weekend that the "wall" that wmn supposedly hit is simply men showing interest vs arousal. As a 45yo f, I find my interactions with men much more delightful now than when I was younger. Quantity did decrease, but quality is so much better. Wmn taking more initiative dating when we're older is less desperation and more an issue of not giving an F, age + experience should increase confidence. Plus a 40+ yo "Alpha" is likely an asshole, i do want more nurturing,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 12:33 PM
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So your complaint is that magazines occasionally choose NOT to “cater to men’s preferences”? ...and it's not even men's preferences it's specifically his preference. If the magazines weren't selling, this wouldn't be an issue, no matter what movement is going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 03:00 AM
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Dpnt speak for all men, yall aren't the same, some work so hard to hold it together n life, they crave surrender at home. Plus I don't have to tell someone what to do to encourage them to do what i want. Unlike my PPD bros, I'd rather find a person/dynamic that works for me vs hyperfocus on y I cant have what someone else has. Some r so focused on fitting into society's boxes that they miss out on the 100s of other relationship dynamics that fit their natural identity and personal challenges.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 01:54 AM
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My favorite shoes pinch my toes, I complain every time i put them on. I put them on as often as possible. Complaining about a choice doesn't require someone supporting a delusion. They're dissatisfied with their real life experience but r motivated to repeat it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 11:21 PM
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Complaining about not attracting the guy you want and feeling entitled to the guy you want are two separate things. I don't see the latter on either of those subs. Im obese, I like my men hot, fit, agile, and obedient. Whether I deserve him is irrelevant to my desire. If i attract what i want, great; if not, there's work to do. I think the entitlement is the difference between men and women n this scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 11:11 PM
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Same, fighting the good fight! 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 10:07 PM
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Experiencing your emotions is a healthy human behavior, being emotionally reactive without consideration and restraint is not. When people call others emotional, they're referring to how they inappropriately react to valid emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:52 PM
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Playboi Carti, ASAP Rocky, Timothée Chalamet, BTS, etc would disagree; and they were all hearthrobs before fame and fortune.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 03:57 PM
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I agree, Im establishing my position as nice/pleasant in contrast to whatever role you have decided to present. While you may not appreciate it (frankly, as an introvert I find it intrusive and off putting) you're lying to yourself if you cant see how charasmatics, bullshitters, and brownosers benefit n society.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 03:47 PM
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It's the difference between just existing and creating a pleasant atmosphere. People would rather date/hire/hang with the person that made them feel best/smartest/most capable over the person that was smartest/most accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 03:39 PM
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Female communication is not fact-based. It's feelings-based. Feelings are just as necessary and influential as facts and actions; there is no hiarchy. A huge problem with men on this sub is that they expect interactions with humans to be facts /data driven leaving no lasting impact on those they wish to connect with. I want people around me to b happy; i cld just tell them to smile more or I could say something to make them feel like smiling. PPD guys fail this quiz.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 03:30 PM
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"A key that can open many doors is a master key" - a guy that can convince women to have sex "A door the can be unlocked by any key" - a woman that allows any guy to sex her My point is that promiscuous women aren't allowing sex or being convinced by any guy. She's actually taking initiative and selecting specific guys to have them fulfill her sexual desires. The key metaphor removes power and agency from the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 02:35 PM
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Y do you assume compliments aren't honest and genuine? "I love your dress" isn't saying that dress is a style and color that flatters your figure and there's little room for self-improvement. It's a nice thing to say to help someone feel good. Criticism debate confrontation are rude and off-putting if not explicitly requested, lots of guys do that to their detriment and they're unaware that this is the opposite of seduction (repellent).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 02:52 AM
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The metaphor doesn't work for sex because it assumes women who willingly open up and sometimes aggressively invite men "inside" as locked. A promiscuous woman is often the key in that metaphor.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 07:23 PM
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Any man who is able to talk to, hang out with, charm and bed multiple women knows what makes women go. Promiscuous men and women know how to seduce, they don't know how to maintain a relationship, develop trust that leads to protection/submission, or get their spiritual and emotional needs met via relationship. He's constantly searching as described in Dante's Inferno: being trapped in a “hellish cyclone” that “snatches the [lustful] spirits up in its driving whirl, / whisks them about and beats…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 07:20 PM
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Because a confident man with options has the freedom to choose who he genuinely desires; not who society dictates is his match. A 3/10 that makes him feel like a god he may find more valuable than a lukewarm 10/10 or an enthusiastic 6/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:15 AM
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I think respect is a reward that often evades undatable men and at some point they'd rather be genuinely loved and respected than used for entertainment
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:07 PM
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I see. That makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:20 AM
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For example?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:07 AM
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They dont have men's best interests in mind, they have their own. Why would you assume that your best interests and your woman's best interests wouldn't align?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:06 AM
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Does that mean that women also spend money on the guy she really likes, I genuinely don't know which guy u mean n my scenario. She really likes both; the relationships just develop differently. If weed guy n my scenario fit the traditional gender role, then he would be a relationship guy, and we'd live happily ever after. My willingness to provide depends on a lot of factors; the type of guy or status of our relationship is less important than my perceived return on investment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 12:03 AM
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Yes, he was graduating high school and had to be establishedto preparefor when she graduates. I've dated poorer, as have most degreed women that I know; doing it now actually, but the guy usually overperforms in other areas of the relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 01:12 PM
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The Body Positivity movement began in the 1960s and were just starting to see the impact n the last 5-10 years
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 01:01 AM
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Yikes! That is awful. Short men should mobilize and champion their own cause, much like fat women. It takes decades of activism to influence social change. That behavior isn't acceptable at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 11:04 PM
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You can absolutely complain, you're not getting what you want. It's not effective, nobody should feel sorry, but people have a right to their feelings even when self-inflicted
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:54 PM
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Gas stations, bodegas, and convenience stores often have no-name male supplements near the register. Sometimes for sexual enhancement, energy, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:48 PM
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My 14yo just asked me to order him testosterone last night, I caught him a few months ago with some gas station pills. Must be some red pill trend 😡
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:45 PM
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It was way more common to marry as soon as you became an adult until the 1970s. Guys want to wait until their 30s now but hold women to 18yo standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:42 PM
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It's literally the same strategy as men, putting some guys n the fun only category, but then things go awry. I might decide to let my weed guy smash because im single and horny but after 6 months of sex + hanging out, we try to piece together a relationship, having never vetted him at all and ignored all red flags because I didn't start out taking him seriously. Takes maturity to realize the folly, but of course women r expected to b mature competent wives at birth 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:31 PM
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Every guy I've ever been with would totally qualify as a simp according to the pills no matter how tall or hot or rich. Guys that get girls do what girls want; not sure how the conversation strayed from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 04:55 PM
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Situationships r way more common than the pump n dump fantasy that pills seem to have. Women become scorned when they get pregnant or fuckboy settles with another woman or becomes addicted or something snaps her out of the illusion of relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 04:47 PM
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My dad joined the Army because my grandpa made military or college a condition to marry my mom and take her out of his home. Now guys cry about dates, smh.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 04:35 PM
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When she inevitably gets burned and decides she is done "putting up with shitty men" it will not be because "average Joe" has hurt her, she is projecting her own negative experience with a fuckboy player on ALL MEN. False. She may have dated fuckboys AND average Joe and realized they're BOTH shitty, but fuckboy was hotter, more willing, and more fun to be around. The insecurity and resentment expressed in the pill communities isnt hidden very well n real life, and no woman with options regardles…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 04:32 PM
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Such a rational response. Bravo!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:11 PM
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I think it's more a lack of "like." Men choose based on the qualities he finds least stimulating or intimidating (inexperienced, low maintenance); its a crappy position to b in as a woman. This specific conversation highlights that some men genuinely don't enjoy the company of women and in the comfort of relationships/marriage that becomes more apparent. "y do i have to date u & they dont" um, because u like and want to date me. You don't HAVE to do anything , I thought u wanted to, and now u re…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 11:46 PM
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It's definitely my villain origin story. Being the one with all the chores, expectations, and responsibilities sucks!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:12 PM
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Depends on both the guy and girl. The misconception is that single women r getting pumped and dumped, but that doesn't take into account that men (especially Chad's) r possessive and competitive so they'll do whatever to keep that situation going if they enjoy it, and that can b convenient, flattering, and much more comfortable and enjoyable than today's dating market. Plus, the whole essence of fwb/situationships is not being "stuck." But it comes the cost of time and stability. Some women seek…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:03 PM
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The difference is men treat the girlfriend better than the hookup girl based on what women value and are validated by. That is not true at all; hence, why women r divorcing and increasingly becoming noncommittal. Men pine after and obsess over women they claim to hate (ig/of, high body count, single moms) while neglecting/resenting/minimizing their wives and girlfriends. On the contrary, hookup guy unintentionally puts n a lot of effort to keep hookup girl incentivised to continue a fwb/situatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 07:41 PM
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My loved one was raped in March 2023, reported immediately. Forensic interview was in June, just contacted by DA's office in September to write an affidavit and advised that they won't likely present plea/ trial for another 3-4 years (whats the likelihood that a teenager won't ruin her credibilityn that time span or remember every single detail). So, ya know, keep every detail fresh in ur mind. Btw, this is an 11yo who was violently assaulted by a neighbor that lives on her street; this is how q…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 06:17 PM
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They literally do the same thing. They approach a completely different set of women when they have money/status. The hypocrisy and jealousy toward women is ridiculous and unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 10:29 PM
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Ime, dating got easier in my 30s (after kids), but I attribute it to me being less neurotic about marriage/kids/timeline and solely dating for compatibility. My standards are higher as i have a lot more at risk, but surprisingly, that's not been a barrier
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 02:01 AM
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More than 75% of my N-Count was during high school 😬
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 09:31 PM
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That type of young girl would come to that conclusion after sexual/relationship trauma... not likely to find a virgin or even an inexperienced girl that wants to skip over her entire age group.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 09:30 PM
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Yet most 5'4 Indian janitors of the world are married?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 03:29 PM
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Here n Texas we have to travel 3 states to even have access to an abortion, IF the center breaks the law by granting one. How can you speak so confidently about the internal battles of friends or strangers on an issue that you have 0 frame of reference? Smh.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 10:04 PM
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Its ironic that men who cant be bothered to get annual checkups so casually recommend the horrifically painful, invasive, and humiliating experience of getting an abortion like its nothing. Do u know the procedure? The recovery? The side effects? The lifelong trauma? Also there r many, many cases where men use babies to trap women n the perpetual fuckzone and immature women see that as a flattering lifelong commitment (at least until the baby needs things and responsibilities come)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 09:22 PM
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It's strange because the same group that swears women want high value 6/6/6 also blame women for choosing bums and deadbeats . Lots of mixed messaging towards women, should we give guys a chance or wait at the finishline? Plus a lot of fear, stress, and anxiety comes with becoming a new parent; sometimes, it can make a new mom become a depressed mess or an unbearable control freak. Some dads cant deal with the change n relationship dynamics and feel neglected and overwhelmed so they shut down an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 09:14 PM
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Sure. Bums have no problem getting women despite what PPD believes. My point is that women are shamed not only for our failures, we are shamed for the failures of the men we choose, more so than the actual man
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:41 PM
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Is all subscrption based entertainment exploitive now because I dont see the difference between OF vs Peleton as far as creator and consumer responsibility? Also, women patronize male strippers, yoni massages, OF, Paint & Sips, and several sex oriented businesses, and we dont feel exploited. You're paying for a service, not a relationship, low risk is the safer positive thing for everyone, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 08:34 PM
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An attractive man could (and does) this and society blames her for choosing that man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:38 PM
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Id argue that at least liberal women are pro decriminalizing sex work. Exploitation should be penalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 05:27 PM
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How did they start dating if she wasn't interested n guy A? Y is it so hard to believe that QB has 4 good qualities, but simp has 7 (different) good qualities? When QB later marries a good well-behaved woman, is he also settling if she'sless hot or sexual? If goody goody preserves herself and all her wifely qualities for QB while he parties and fk's his way through school, isn't she simping by RP definition? Where's the line between different mating strategies and all these new categories?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 10:15 PM
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An example of a simp I see guys being called simps in dating scenarios: Girl is casually dating 2 guys Guy A buys >iPhone, Coach bag, Louis Vuitton bag, $300 wagyu steaks, $500 worth of makeup, and $1,000 in Twitch donations. Guy B is QB that she sleeps with and hangs out with. Girl eventually enters a relationship with Guy A because as much as she enjoys the QB, she needs the simp. So Guy A has to risk being cuckold by QB or resented. Is that not simping?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 09:39 PM
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This is actually a logical assessment and describes my personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 09:29 PM
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Now when the time comes that she decides she wants a husband now, she tries going for the same men that she got for hookups No, we go for the "simp" that offers the best mutual relationship benefit and quality of life. This scenario benefits both parties, critics call it AF/BB all the while holding dry dicks. Women complain about settling when simp wants hot guy sex without hot guy magnetism or simp benefits. If I can't have either, then y not remain single.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 09:06 PM
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What she might not realize is that the simps only want to smash She realizes that men want to smash, which is y she uses her resources to get what she desires. Simps use their resources to get the women they want to give them the attn/sex/validation that they want. The only one's left perpetually wanting are the men that criticize women + simps. It's weird
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 08:54 PM
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How do u know when other people r having casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 09:29 PM
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That's not how sex or orgasm works for men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 01:05 PM
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No! When I saw his growing interest n Andrew Tate, I realized Id have to b way more explicit and realistic with dating advice so he wldnt be so desperate to listen to those idiots
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:41 PM
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I agree. My 14yo has antisocial personality d/o, horrible hygiene, etc but the amount of rizz 🤦🏾‍♀️🙄 he has is a sight to behold. He got into RedPill right around puberty when a girl told him he wasn't "hood" enough. I showed him that Tate pays his girls and even then has to rape them. Gave him my own advice and he does great with girls (struggles with everything else unfortunately)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 01:03 PM
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Omg! Professional license renewals, required continuing education, conferences. Its all just a circle jerk of gatekeeping, and it pisses me off. Thwy know its required so they charge what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 03:42 AM
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No, my children r adopted
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 03:23 AM
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Um. Ok. My point was that however pills view me, my upkeep is expensive and exhausting. Yet I positively persist and thrive all the while feeling loved and valued by society, family, and my love. F Red Pill!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:56 PM
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Do yall want feminine or masculine, were not men. Men's pov isn't our business, but we empathize. Which is y im n this very unpleasant exchange. You've aggressively minimized and invalidated a complete strangers effort and experience. Your negative view does not equal reality but will attract the energy u expect. Your maximum effort can be and likely is someone's bare minimum. By all means, be selfish about articulating your standards and getting your needs and desires met. What's the point of v…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 09:25 PM
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Society judges women by our ability to "keep a man" or "get the ring." Even if its not n our nature or best interest. Just look at all the mockery of PnD and situationships. Lack of getting a guy to commit is viewed as a failure on women's part even if she intentionally dates noncommittal guys
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 08:37 PM
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Relationships should make life easier than being single (especiallywithkids); but for many people, thats not the case. Every relationship hardship I've experienced was self-inflicted or partner inflicted; so I was happier (actually I prioritized peace over happiness) single
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 08:30 PM
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Fit, feminine, and friendly doesn't require effort. Making a man feel validated, desired, and respected don't require effort? Cooking, cleaning, child rearing, and tip-toeing around male ego isn't effort? Guys have no idea how much we have to bite our tounge, lower ourselves, play naive, downplay our accomplishments just for them to not crumble or lash out. Being a desirable woman not only requires great effort, its expensive and time consuming; and I'm a plain jane. Not recognizing or appreciat…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 07:57 PM
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My point is that a lot of the sentiments expressed in PP are perceptions based on doom scrolling, neurodivergence, insecurity, attitude, and experience. That doesn't mean hope is lost; it also doesn't guarantee you'll get what u want; it means try something different, FIND your audience, control what u can, and accept things beyond our control
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 07:49 PM
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Depend on Men, not marriage/sex/relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 06:38 PM
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I agree. It seems logical and optimal for both parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 06:36 PM
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Pure jealousy 😤🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 06:06 PM
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I'm attracted to the avg man, but I'm also an obese, post wall, high n-count, single mom that loves her career, so there's that. Of course, everyone wants to feel desired; but I'm sure my boyfriend's desire for me is very different than the chicks he banged as a D1 athlete n college, or his model ex wife. I don't speculate on why he's with me vs someone more desirable because our relationship fulfills my needs and desires and I assume his because he showers me and my children with care and affec…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 05:51 PM
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Like being sappy and romantic. Making her feel sexy and desirable. Being an engaging and stable male presence for my children. Being affectionate and vulnerable. Humoring my over the top trip/date ideas. Not being preachy, judgy, or a bummer. Im in a wonderful relationship with a man that does everything opposite of RedPill and he gets whatever he wants because of who and how he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 04:47 PM
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Maybe 10 years ago. Now, everything that incentivises Avg Jane to want Avg Joe is called "simping." And Joe avoids simping or resents it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:45 PM
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..but most women realize we're not Stacy, so we don't dedicate movements to cosplay Stacy's life
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:26 PM
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Lust for Stacy gets her wined and dined, her looks validated, bragged on, taken on exotic vacations, Stacy doesn't work or have a budget. Stacy is at the spa or shopping while Jane has to cook, clean, and manage the household. Lust for Jane gets her mediocre sex that she dare not try to spice up at the risk of being a suspected slut
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:25 PM
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Avg Joe wants to be lusted after like Cassanova; Avg Jane loves and prefers Avg Joe, but Joe resents who he is and y he was chosen; it makes Joe passive aggressive, unattractive, and insecure and it makes Jane miserable and hostile
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:06 PM
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Avg Joe wasn't constantly comparing his life to Chad, nor overthinking who Jane had, why she's there, will she treat me like she would if I were Chad. Avg Jane's life, health, and family depended on Avg Joe to function at max ability, so she was incentivised to cater to his physical, emotional, and social needs often to her detriment. Also are there surveys of marital quality during these times? If people were so happy, why the push to change
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 02:32 PM
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I have teenage boy/girl twins, and this is so sadly accurate
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 10:29 PM
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No. Im saying that like fat women, homely women, and broke men; "beta" men need to find and focus on their strengths and who wants them and leave Chad/Alpha dating dynamics alone because they're irrelevant. Accept that their spouse can do better but chooses you for whatever time/reason, safeguard against fallout /breakup/divorce and enjoy what life/love brings. Or continue to miserably resent the world and find echo chambers to support your negative outlook.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 07:16 PM
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How do guys understand not marrying high n-count women that they sleep with; but its some conspiracy when women don't marry Chad Thundercock?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 06:55 PM
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Absolutely. Just not the assumption that women sought, failed, or even desired commitment from "alpha." Sure if he's a great guy, not so much if he's only a great lay. I don't get the offense of BB because the overwhelming majority of humans will marry the most practical choice, not the best, hottest, or favorite.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 06:53 PM
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Low risk = low reward
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 02:09 PM
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Where do yall get the assumption that the guys women fuck while single are thr guys she desires for marriage? Those r 2 separate situations eith conflicting end goals
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 02:05 PM
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They're committed to their misery. Any logical suggestion to aid in their laughably uncomplicated loneliness will be met with manosphere talking points that only promote further victimhood. Many of these guys are naturally submissive, naturally betas and every aspect of society reminds them of this, but rather than embrace their position in life and date in their respective lane (betabux?), they will hyperfocus on Chad and Stacy and others who have nothing to do with them and don't have their sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 06:47 AM
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Go on Twitter and search Random Man from Atlanta and behold
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 03:22 AM
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Huh? Not every breakup and/or sexual encounter involves trauma and toxicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 11:36 PM
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Interesting take. Funny I assume high N Count women to be more sexually dominant if not more dominant n all aspects of romantic relationships. I wonder if this has been studied
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 11:27 PM
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Fkzone is more detrimental overall due to time wasted; but if the sexual attraction and chemistry r strong enough, both parties can extract a lot emotionally, socially, and financially from that relationship to fulfill their other needs. I doubt being friendzone'd feels the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 04:00 PM
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Settling = prioritizing very important dating criteria over less important dating criteria The difference in scenarios is the age of the couples and the way people were socialized at that time. Until maybe 1970s - 80s whether it was your first crush or your early 20s relationships; most people dated with the intention to marry that person. Criteria reflected that. That's no longer the case, people date for all sorts of reasons now or even as placeholders to pass time. Dating vs relationship crit…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 04:44 PM
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I think what guys refer to as Beta Buxing has always been the female standard for marriage. Do u think your mom married ur dad because he was the most striking sexy guy that swept her off her feet? My parents and grandparents dated as teens and married as soon as they became of age because it was the standard way to exit their parents' house at the time; not to say love and attraction weren't there, but stability was the standard
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:03 PM
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https://www.drpsychmom.com/2021/04/23/if-you-want-sex-to-last-in-your-marriage-dont-marry-the-woman-who-never-liked-sex-till-she-met-you/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 02:01 AM
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Right! I tried to hook my "friendzone" guy up with my best friend who looks and acts exactly like me but was way more into him. He rejected her and got all butthurt, but still sees himself as a victim
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:12 PM
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Not necessarily, there r many single person behaviors that we don't take into committed relationships. Masturbation is an example, Im sure most people experience a change n desire, schedule, and maybe even technique from when they're single to committed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:02 PM
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Limerance, adrenaline rushes+ dopamine boosts. Not necessarily liking a guy because he's bad, but tolerating his badness because he makes me feel these feelings (until it's unbearable) A man doesn't have to have "bad" qualities ir even be physically attractive to spark infatuation; but being risk averse, neutotic, overanalyzing, introverted, etc will make things much harder
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:26 PM
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This is a great observation!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 05:07 PM
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Keep n mind that often women become promiscuous in an attempt to resolve sexual trauma, reinforce power over her own sexual agency, and feel a sense of control over men, relationships, and potential heartbreak. Plus she's exposed to cheaters and male sexual appetite and behavior more than the average woman. Those actions lend to a cycle insecurity and jealousy. Sharing a partner is invalidating, especially when ur a high libido sexually desirable woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:08 PM
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So when guys r under the delusion that they'll level up at 35+ and start dating 20yo's; you don't consider them sugar babies? Or do y'all plan to spend your glory years with women who's lifestyle you're repulsed by?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 11:22 PM
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Black guys. (sorry) Most if not all married celebrity women. Hobosexuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 11:17 PM
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Isn't that mutually beneficial, as relationships should be?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 11:03 PM
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Curious, if she fell in love and married a guy that was devoted to her but a loser/bum in life and she struggled emotionally and financially to appease his insecurity and ego is that a equivalent, better, or worse as a dad?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 11:02 PM
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Men love "feminine" emotional manipulation, hence Passport bros being the predator and prey at once
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 09:08 PM
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I'm almost 50 and abundantly pleased with my past and current relationships but thanks for the FYI. Luckily, in reality we all have options.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:25 AM
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If her pants are lose at the waist, the top of her butt wld show when she sits down, like a plumber. Actually any loose clothing would look like a frumpy bag. Sometimes, especially for women with dramatic curves, being comfortable and wearing clothing that compliments your shape is seen as provocative.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 11:00 PM
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It's foolish. Babies n diapers get raped, as do nuns in habits and altar boys n robes. Predatory thinking isn't related to being enticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:17 PM
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Same. Ironically, Chads and gym bros are more attracted (or at least more forward) to me. But I'd be more attracted to a John Goodman or Craig Robinson or Pete Davidson type than this guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:13 PM
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RE sexual chemistry: Flirty playful banter is high on my list. Can we seduce each other without being vulgar, awkward, or offensive. Do we genuinely enjoy being in each other's presence. Is our physical/sexual attraction mutually intense (I'm a big girl, so I'm overly conscious if a guy is attracted to me vs thinking I'm an easy lay because fat)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:00 PM
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I'm n the 40+ never married demographic; I'd never say I don't "need" a man, but I'll only entertain men who show themselves useful n the very early stages, even if that use is entertainment but it's typically more practical. The bar is higher to consider marriage than it was n my youth, so I'm always confused about Beta Buxx allegations. I can see how it comes across as arrogant
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:40 PM
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What should she wear on jean day? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:23 PM
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If we have big tits how do you propose we contain them? I literally resorted to men's polos n my 20s.... They were still very much noticed and appreciated. I guess we shouldn't breathe or giggle 😮‍💨
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:15 PM
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The strange thing about this self righteous take shared by so many is the assumption that "high value men" don't share the same or equally unattractive qualities. Even online a lot of guys come across as bitter, judgemental, unpleasant, and off-putting. A bummer to date and a nightmare to commit to. While glaringly obvious to women (regardless of "value") it seems completely left out of the dating strategy conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 05:41 PM
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"women are loved for just existing" is so insulting. Any adult woman who isn't socially isolated herself is probably neurotic about the feelings, social, and romantic lives of family and friends. Most women prioritize birthdays, baby showers, holidays, children events and endless seemingly pointless social obligations because that is how relationships are maintained and support networks are cultivated. The few men that do this, typically aren't lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 10:20 PM
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Why wouldn't these old frail people partner with each other when that time comes?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 10:37 PM
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This is exactly why I prefer male gynos, I find them to be more thorough, analytical, and less dismissive; I attribute it to having no personal perspective to rely on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:40 PM
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You would expect a wild animal to attack you. Not a guy u just had a great first date with, your favorite uncle, your pastor, or the cop who pulled you over for speeding. That's where our trauma comes from... we never saw assault coming until it did
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 01:25 PM
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It's true and strange that guys don't seem to correlate that in older man/younger women scenarios, the older guy is the Beta in terms of Af/Bb, the Alpha would be the hot, broke douche who can smash with low effort, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 12:17 AM
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Or a good sign that an adult has matured from a past experience and learned to enforce appropriate boundaries. Or has achieved a sense of comfort with me that they never experienced with their "less attainable" trophy. Idk if it's a woman thing or a maturity thing, but it's totally ok to be the best choice even if not the favorite.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 01:26 AM
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I love this!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 01:11 AM
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The semantics are pointless. There are plenty of adult functional women who are not "boss bitches" in service oriented roles who have kind welcoming personalities, aren't Chad chasers, that seem to be excluded from this conversation. I thought of it leaving Walgreens this morning and the clerk was so sweet I genuinely felt better having been n her presence, and I thought how r Red pill guys missing these sweet ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 08:34 PM
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No real relationship experience. Everything they believe about relationships was observed online, in bars, at very specific scenarios. They would have us believe that nurses, teachers, store clerks, receptionists, all the women from their towns and from their high school are boss bitches who are only interested in Chads; despite reality
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 06:58 PM
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I'm sure most adults on both sides know that they're settled for, it's childish to think otherwise. Plus you can't build a life and family from lust/infatuation and thats usually the unattainable option.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:09 PM
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This!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 08:42 PM
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That's exactly what's happening. Some men (and women) know how to arouse and titillate to inspire passion, infatuation, and lust that overrides logic. Most of us don't have that effect on anyone regardless of how we treat them and how we love them. A "bad boy" or "hot crazy chick" is a vacation. I don't think less of my home for not being an island resort; it's two completely different experiences. Same with relationships. Why is that so offensive?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:35 PM
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Idk, not my experience nor one that I've observed. I'm sure it happens, but your precious Chads also literally worship our jellyrolls too so I can definitely see why Lizzos are so arrogant and demanding. Luckily, however delusional it may be, our clown world is a lot bigger than the incel world, and I haven't observed a female red pill / incel equivalent so I guess everything works itself out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 06:12 PM
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Yes, sex workers are salespeople they have to pursue customers to earn a living. When sex tourism is involved, especially in places like Thailand, the belief is that there is less choice. How does that relate to an "Alpha" Chad with endless romantic and sexual options choosing to pursue a fat woman (who also has romantic and sexual options) for casual or long term relationships? Who's being exploited here? I'm pro sex work actually, but the implication that men with options don't pursue fat wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 04:45 PM
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Exploit? Sir I've been fat my entire life and the "Chads" only get chosen because of how aggressively and confidently they pursue me. The concept of Chad is who guys find exceptionally attractive, to women, they're just guys who's attractiveness matches their arrogance. An uncommon occurrence
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:04 PM
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It's a non issue if men were to prioritize financial assets the same way they prioritize looks and submission. But of course when you want youth, beauty, naivety, and dependence it has to come with insurance for the low earning spouse. Alimony is absolutely a risk for women as well, 30% of people that pay alimony are women. The group that lobbies against alimony is woman led. I just don't see how the worst and most unlikely scenario carries so much weight in men's minds, but doesn't lead them to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:07 PM
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Feminism is the opposite actually. Alimony is the cost of choosing a wife with low to no income, assets, or property. It's the cost of having a woman sacrifice her youth to focus on family vs career. Well established women are rarely awarded alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 01:43 PM
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Absolutely. I'd insist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 05:32 AM
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I'm in full support sir, no argument from me, Godspeed! I'm all for transactional relationships, its way more logical than yelling into the abyss about the "top 10% of men" or whatever the lonely female complaint is. Figure out what you have to offer, find the audience for it, set ur price/standards/boundaries and play the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 11:23 PM
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Why do men fear alimony so much when it's only awarded in 10% of divorces (with women paying in 3%)? It's such an irrational concern with a built in remedy of prenuptial agreement
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 10:56 PM
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I think this sounds great for guys in theory, in reality only a very specific type of young woman with options will participate in this arrangement and it'll be too overtly transactional for most men's liking. Dating across generations feels gross. Which is why you rarely see this fantasy play out in real life unless lots of money is involved. The disconnect is that most women under 25 want fun, freedom, butterflies, and romance. The qualities of a well established man are meaningless to a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 10:38 PM
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Interesting take. My experience has been that guys that are players maintain that status because they are more affectionate and generous (sexually) than the average guy. To use your analogy, they are recruited while other guys have to apply. It's one of my RP commentary and why I'm so interested in the topic. Men think it's helpful info when the assumptions stated are so far from the female dating experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 01:03 AM
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The same reason guys may do some sexual things to some random slut that he wouldn't do to his wife. I assume most good guys buy into the whole Madonna / Whore complex. I'm fine with being a manwhores whore because who cares what he thinks we're not going anywhere. I wouldn't want a guy that I'm into that's so principled about female sex to exclude me based on giving it up too fast, too much, too aggressively and from the looks of this thread and society as a whole, that's what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:37 PM
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This thread makes the argument for why women behave that way. In general men judge women's relationship/marriage ability by her sexual prowess or lack thereof. So as a woman, if I desire a meaningful relationship with a man, I'd better be more sexually conservative. Idk, I get how guys feel, but society teaches us to behave for guys that we value more. It's the opposite of settling actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 04:15 PM
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Umm, hobosexuals exist. He may have to aim for past 40 with kids, but RP tells us that these career driven post wall fat single moms (like myself) should be an easy kill. I disagree, but for the sake of argument it's easily doable and has merit for everyone involved. Honestly, the 22yo Man or Woman that pulls this off has other very desirable qualities either way and typically live this lifestyle out of desire rather than necessity. Sorry, I forgot the original topic
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 03:50 PM
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I personally wouldn't describe the human boytoy as the Alpha n this situation, but sure according to RP
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 01:44 PM
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Go out with both, date A, hookup with B.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:56 AM
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If you had sisters, would her experiences/challenges be more like your upbringing or the girls that you describe? I ask because you viewed your experience as individual but the specific girls as a "women" thing. It's not, most women have hardship, emotional, physical, and financial challenges as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:49 AM
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But if your spouse has a "reckless" need for constant validation that bothers you; why not acknowledge that you aren't a good match, you can't meet her needs, and break up? It sounds more logical than the tit for tat game that the OP is suggesting? I hate that the pills pit men vs women in such general terms instead of recognizing the importance of identifying and meeting our individual needs in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 11:58 PM
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This is perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 06:48 AM
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Wait, so you won't marry a woman that loves you and is devoted to you because of a high n-count; but you will spend your life and money sleeping with multiple high n-count women? And this is coming from the logical sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 05:51 AM
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Female Drs and med students can't be sluts?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:23 PM
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Like what are dudes doing? Keeping themselves miserable, then whining about it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:16 PM
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I nvr said it was a good idea, I said they see value in it. Hmm. My view may be skewed because I work in Level 1 Trauma /ER which I assume attracts Alphas. But these Drs are hot and very dominant in the workplace (Drs and C Suite execs make the best subs on the BDSM scene), sluts (at least these hot nurses that hook up and marry at my job) are aggressive and are probably more open to kinks that are meaningful to a certain type of guy to create a home environment to keep him going. Some men are h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 10:15 PM
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Precisely! Guys with actual esteem and power don't have to make up arbitrary rules to feel authority over their spouses. They like slutty sex, so they roll the dice and marry a slut. Much like guys that lose big in divorce often remarry repeatedly, they see value n it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:28 PM
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It's not that serious honestly, I'm fat, I like to overindulge in things I like (food, sex, shopping) slim/fit guys are more likely to have the stealth and stamina to get the job done with least effort on my part. Plus they seem to have a sensory thing for the softness, that translates well during sexy times 😉 and I've not had that experience with fat guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 07:39 AM
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As gross as i find this strategy, I must admit that it's very effective. Every "nice guy" that I've passed on or dated and not slept with was because they revealed this ideology (though not as explicitly); this is much more valid than the beta thing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 02:30 AM
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I literally had this exact scenario play out last night with my FWB and found this thread out of pure confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/23 05:22 AM
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I definitely had better face/body early 20s; but the alluring energy and confidence that I developed 40+ has gotten me more + better quality attention. Im 44
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 04:04 PM
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I prefer body over face
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 05:02 AM
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Ooooorrrr: I had a 3some with some guy i hooked up with; i wld nvr want to share a man that i actually care about. I used to do anal and I saw your ... (length +girth) now Im scared of anal. My previous partner was a free spirit, my new partner is a Red piller (which I dont mind) but in our casual conversations you've revealed how judgemental you are and I don't want to fall out of your good graces BECAUSE I LIKE/LOVE and care about you. I was immature and impulsive and did all sorts of crazy th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 09:09 PM
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Hmm, you would think lack of social /emotional support would add value to friendzone relationships instead of resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 04:04 PM
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