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social issuesAbject_Election_4237/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/22 08:38 PM
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Depending on the source, you know articles can be biased, right? I know trans women who have been physically assaulted and killed for being trans. I myself have been physically assaulted 3 times for being trans. Being trans is not any better than being a sexless incel, especially in a lot if men's eyes. You don't want your views challenged. You want to live in your own little echo chamber that says only you have it rough. Trans people will never find allies amongst men like you
/r/MensRights10/01/23 07:01 PM
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It isn't. If you talk to trans women and listen, you'd realize how patently false that is. But you don't want a dialogue with us, you want to pretend we have more privilege than you, which we don't. Trans women are fighting the same fight as you. Instead of seeing us as the other, ally with us so we overturn feminism.
/r/MensRights10/01/23 06:49 PM
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Yeah, try and become a trans lesbian and have cis lesbians treat you with the same revulsion they treated you before your transition. Why do cis men assume we have anymore privilege than you, especially since the vast majority of people don see us as women?
/r/MensRights10/01/23 06:44 PM
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As a trans woman, that is colossal BS.
/r/MensRights10/01/23 06:39 PM
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Constant sex with whom? As a trans woman, I'm as involuntarily celibate now as I was then lol. So what female privileges do I have? Most trans women I've encountered struggle to find intimacy, we most certainly don't get it on tap.
/r/MensRights10/01/23 06:35 PM
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You don't escape being stigmatized because you're trans, dude. You face being called a rapist, groomer, pedo, liar, pervert etc. You get even attacked or murdered for all your trouble. I've been physically assaulted 3 times since I've come out. As for transitioning, the state doesn't help me or a lot of trans women; a lot of us have to go for broke just to get even one surgery. Also, it's not like you escape the ire of feminists either; they hate us with as much rancor as they hate men. I've bee…
/r/MensRights10/01/23 06:26 PM
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Thank you. This thread frustrates me to no end as a black trans woman. I have been physically assaulted 3 TIMES after coming out. It's amazing that a lot of these men think we have it good for some reason, especially since feminists hate us too.
/r/MensRights10/01/23 06:20 PM
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I'm sorry for going off on you. I've just dealt with A LOT of abuse from women in my life, so I don't trust women anymore. But I'm sorry regardless
/r/MensRights02/12/22 07:31 PM
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Why should transitioning into a woman change my mind? I won't pass anyway and I'll just get the same treatment from cis women as always, perhaps magnified because I'm trans.
/r/MensRights02/12/22 07:23 PM
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Laughing at me isn't going to change my mind. Y'all think that being cruel and nasty in order to shame someone is the route to go. I have no idea why you lot do it. Insulting anyone doesn't make them more sympathetic to your side. I AM NOT YOUR PUNCHING BAG!!! That goes for the rest of your brood. If I have to be cruel and nasty to you as you are to me, I will without hesitation. will not be treated like I'm dirt by ANY WOMAN ever again.
/r/MensRights02/12/22 07:14 PM
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Why? Women do it ALL the time on the busses where I live. If they have the right to, then I most certainly do. After all the abuses and cruelties I've suffered at the hands of women, I'm done being courteous when it's never reciprocated( and I say this as a gay man). I'm done.
/r/MensRights02/12/22 06:54 PM
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If I'm already sitting, then they can find another seat. I'm not gonna give up my seat for ANY reason--as a black man that's not happening, especially just because they're a woman.
/r/MensRights02/12/22 06:40 PM
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I can relate. I've been harassed by women on the bus so many times that if a girl/woman tries to sit next to me I prevent them from doing so. The only time I relax the rule is if the woman is advanced in years and needs to sit down but other than that, no.
/r/MensRights02/12/22 06:01 PM
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Amen. All it does is alienate the people who would help either side and maybe even radicalize them, which I see a lot of here. I'm genderfluid so I definitely don't believe in the gender essesntialist nonsense. I really want to support men's rights and women's rights, but I'm tired of having a part of me that I can't control weaponized against me by both sides. I see the world the lens of MY experiences, not some gender groupthink.
/r/MensRights17/11/22 12:09 AM
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Thank you so much. This sub is getting crazy with the generalization of women and acting as women are some sort of collective. They aren't. I'm no feminist but it's wrong to act as if individual women don't have their own individual viewpoints.
/r/MensRights16/11/22 11:48 PM
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What annoys me is I know that women aren't uniform in their thinking by what they DO AND SAY. But MRAS in the same arrogance as feminists want to assume that every man and woman experiences the universe in homogenized ways and that's simply shit. I read all your comments and I for sure know I don't think like the rest of you. But you'd have me believe I was part of some hivemind. Why do you lot seem to have a problem with people being individuals?
/r/MensRights12/11/22 02:12 AM
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I was merely refuting the point that women don't lust. I didn't miss any point. I actually talk to women and have gained considerable insight. I once made an offhand remark that women aren't visual as men and the women I was talking to categorically said that wasnt true. One told me she had a Playgirl hidden away. The woman who hit on me definitely wanted to fuck me. That was explicit. The men on here are starting to become as bad as feminists. You're more concerned about your dogmatic views on …
/r/MensRights11/11/22 10:32 PM
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This is BS. I've had plenty of women friends and they lust after men the same way men lust after women. I've had female confidantes express dissatisfaction at their partner's penis size. I have no idea where you get your crap because so many women have set me straight about liking men who are considered "hot". Your whole bilge is definitely something only men think they understand about women. Women are coy about disclosing if they find a man attractive but don't mistake that reticence for the i…
/r/MensRights11/11/22 09:07 PM
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Not just men but trans people too. I brought up how trans people are murdered at alarming rates in passing in a feminist sub---I'll forever regret that. The feminists were outraged and also accused me of hijacking the situation. They didn't care one bit that statistically trans people are in more danger of facing violence; it didn't coincide with their "cis women are the greatest victims" narrative. All I can say is that it was an eye opening experience. It made me realize that feminism only car…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/11/22 04:07 AM
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I'm relieved I'm not the only one who's cynical about a brotherhood coming into fruition. If you ain't born with the pussy, 90% of men won't care about you; it's sad but true. It sucks to be a man and have NO safe harbor.
/r/MensRights04/11/22 07:25 PM
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I've heard well-to-do white women say that black men are more privileged than them. That ideology doesn't matter. It's the narrative that women are always more oppressed than men that matters to them.
/r/MensRights31/10/22 09:49 PM
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That's why intersectionality in feminism is largely ignored for being too inconvenient. They want to hate on ALL men; it pains them to admit a woman--namely, a wealthy cishet white woman--can have more privilege than a subset of men.
/r/MensRights31/10/22 07:49 PM
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Being a man is being slapped with a pair of genitals you didn't ask for and having that dictate your entire life. You don't matter because of them to women and especially other men. If you've been beaten down by life, other men are there cheerfully waiting to pile on. It's the most thankless and infuriating existence. And you can't escape it EVER. You want to be treated with love and gentleness. Well, your genitals decree that women and other men treat you like shit. That's what it means to be a…
/r/MensRights09/10/22 08:59 PM
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There's a reason why I get so angry. I've had to deal with TOO many assholes and cruel people in my damn life. I'm tired of it!!!!!!
/r/MensRights09/10/22 02:07 AM
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I am not ugly you bastard!!! I don't know why you needed to harp on that---I guess to make yourself feel better. The girl sexually harassed me and was cruel to me for NO reason. That's all you should be focusing on. I'm so tired of POS like you And fyi asshole, I'm not even into women.
/r/MensRights09/10/22 01:52 AM
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I remember I was walking in a mall while I was texting. This girl gets into my face and starts telling me how ugly she finds me and that she'd never date. This b@#$%& had the gall to harass a person she didn't know because of her own vanity. I remember sharing this experience with another woman. That b@#$%$ said I probably deserved it because maybe I was ugly and that I was a creep for bringing it up. Cruel and abusive behavior are acceptable if you are a woman apparently.
/r/MensRights09/10/22 01:05 AM
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My experiences are opposite to yours. The people who have regularly bullied me and mistreated me in life have been overwhelmingly been women. I've had women berate me, harass me, and pick on me. I can't tell you how many b@#$%@# have verbally abused me or talked down to me to lift themselves up. I don't totally hate women but I sure can't stand them.
/r/MensRights02/10/22 08:41 PM
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I'm sorry. I absolutely deserved the rebuke. I don't know what you've been through and it's not for me to make judgments about an experience I know nothing about. I'm deeply sorry. But I do disagree with you on one point. I present as a woman and I'm still perceived as a man. Sometimes presentation and perception correspond. Sometimes it doesn't . I'd like to be your friend. Again, I'm sorry for venting my frustration at you. All I want in life is just to be treated like a woman and not be hated…
/r/MensRights17/09/22 08:09 PM
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Dude! Not every trans woman wants every straight man to date them or fuck them. I don't. All I want is acceptance and to be left alone. If you leave me alone, I'll leave you alone. Date the women u want
/r/MensRights17/09/22 06:05 PM
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Trans rights is inextricably linked to men's rights, especially for trans women. I have to fight for the rehabilitation of the male image because society doesn't recognize me for who I am but for how I was born. I have to fight for men to not be perceived as predators so I won't. I have to fight for men to have their trauma recognized so I can have mine recognized. If I like it or not, your fight will always be my fight.
/r/MensRights17/09/22 05:22 PM
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It's not about passing. I shouldn't have to be subjected to assualts, harassment or verbal abuse because I'm living my life. Leaving me the fuck alone should just be human decency.
/r/MensRights17/09/22 05:17 PM
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I know. I'm a trans woman. That doesn't stop anyone from mistreating me despite the mental turmoil I face. I'm constantly reminded that I'm not worthy of understanding because I was AMAB. The OP has the out to not be treated like a man. I do not. No matter how I present. I will always be mocked, demonized and ridiculed for being born a male who's trying to live her life.
/r/MensRights17/09/22 04:49 PM
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I'm trans myself. Specifically a trans woman. Right now, I'm dealing with a lot of hostility for being a trans woman. It's like I can't escape being mistreated because I was AMAB. I envy the OP because he can detransition and be treated like a woman. I can't. I will always be treated like I'm evil because I was born male or ridiculed because I'm a trans woman. I want to escape the mistreatment so badly. A trans man can leave manhood behind at any opportunity. I can't. No matter what I do.
/r/MensRights17/09/22 04:46 PM
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Why do you need to be a man anyway? It's not like there's anything particularly wonderful about it. You have to contend with men and women assuming the worst about you. If you get traumatized from an incident, you have to spend the rest of your life being told you have to "man up" by both genders. You have to deal with other men who feel the need to be aggressive with you for no reason. You have to deal with a climate of hatred against you because of how you were born. Don't think a trans woman …
/r/MensRights17/09/22 03:22 PM
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It's massive cognitive dissonance for sure. Trans people are nice tools they use from time to time. I can't tell you how quickly supposedly "accepting" feminists will quickly misgender you if you have a dissenting opinion from theirs. It has happened to me too often which is why I'm wary of them now. I think it's time for trans people to stop seeking approval and acceptance from feminists. If we give them the ability to validate and invalidate who we are, A) they could use that as means to make …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/08/22 12:06 AM
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I'll try to be more measured with my words around here. I guess it's the hypocrisy that bothers me. I have seen some racist comments around here from time to time and they weren't removed. Just seems like censorship for me but not for thee.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/22 11:33 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with my words. I have nothing to be apologize for. They were perfectly clear in context. I won't let you and no nutty mod make me feel abashed by something that was obviously clear. I don't care if you think I'm wrong. All that matters, is there was nothing wrong with what I said.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/22 11:24 PM
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I'm upset because I hate when people distort my words or get lambasted for something I didn't say.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/22 11:10 PM
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I had no choice but to clarify when I thought I made it clear the first time what I was talking about.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/22 11:07 PM
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Oh! I agree with you that all feminism is white feminism. They were clever in deceiving women of color that it was in their best interest to band with them. Although, a lot of cis women of color have mentioned their dissatisfaction with white feminists ignoring their issues. There's a reason for that. Feminists wasn't for them But my initial comment was about white women specifically and their victim complex and their need for power. I just said "white feminists" to make it clear whom I was exac…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/22 10:54 PM
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I'm very keenly aware that feminists, especially white feminists are not on my side. White feminists want to spin the yarn that they're just oppressed as black people but history shows that to be different. 40% of slave owners in the US were white women. Feminism is just a means to channel their megalomania to form society into a white matriarchy. I'll never forget my experiences socialized as a black man. I know what it's like to have white women threaten you with the police for no reason. I re…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/22 10:32 PM
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Thank you sooooo much! People like you make me want to keep going when it gets so hard. Your words mean a lot to me. Thank you
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/22 10:16 PM
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It's a carrot and stick ploy that keeps majority of us on their side. A lot of feminists have promised us specious support. We desperately want our identity validated by other women. Feminists exploit that. They exploit our eagerness to be accepted and affirmed for who we are to use for their own agendas---mostly the denigration of cis men (like a kiss the ring action). Ultimately, it's all one-sided. They ghost us when it's our turn for help. But we don't call them out because our desire to be …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/22 09:55 PM
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I think a lack of support is a large reason. Most of the men I know never completed college. Before my transition, I was dealing with severe depression and PTSD from childhood abuse that hobbled by ability to learn. I never had the support around me to continue. College can be exceedingly exhausting when you're trying to cope with trauma. We're pressured to finish college at a certain age so we can enter into the workforce. There's so much pressure to get a degree so you won't be destitute that …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/22 03:13 PM
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I'm a trans woman I ardently support men. I remember my experiences as one and I know first hand that feminists are peddling sophistry. It's time that men have their issues given the spotlight. I wholeheartedly endorse that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/22 06:35 PM
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That's what's frustrating. Trans women aren't allowed to become women and fully experience socially what it's like while trans men can transition and find out what it's like to be treated as a man. Trans women still have to live with being treated as a man.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/22 06:26 PM
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It's a similar case to trans women but it's the inverse. When a lot of us transition, we start to join in the demonization of men so we can get accepted by feminists. We start spouting "toxic masculinity" and "male privelege" to earn brownie points among cis women. I've even done it. What shook me from that mentality, was talking to feminists in depth. I remember disagreeing over how privileged men are and these feminists who were initially kind and welcoming started to misgender me and saying I…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/22 06:20 PM
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That's the problem with men's rights or feminist or trans forums it can sometimes devolve into opposite gender vitriol or something even worse. We all want the same thing at the end of the day: to not be treated like shit. Some people think it's their god given right to be an asshole and fail to realize that type of attitude is merely furthering and bolstering the sort of society they are so dissatisfied with. We're all assholes from time to time but when we make that the social norm and sociall…
/r/MensRights19/08/22 12:24 AM
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Yeah. I'm in the states you are absolutely right in your assessment. It's a crying shame to see the stuff written here but it's a person like you who inspires hope in me. Thank you so much, I'll check out the sub. All I want is to empower everyone, so we can all feel great about ourselves. We all deserve that.
/r/MensRights18/08/22 11:12 PM
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Hi. I'm a trans person who is really interested in gender equality and supporting men's rights. Coming here can be so disheartening and alienating because it can quite transphobic. I really want to support men because a lot of feminists can be egregiously hypocritical. Is there a place to go for someone like me that's welcoming?
/r/MensRights18/08/22 10:12 PM
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