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AbyssinianLion/r/MGTOW21/09/18 10:10 PM
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FeminismAbyssinianLion/r/MensRights05/07/19 09:08 AM
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DiscussionAbyssinianLion/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 10:13 AM
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Question For WomenAbyssinianLion/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 03:55 AM
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DiscussionAbyssinianLion/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:31 AM
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DiscussionAbyssinianLion/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 04:51 PM
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DiscussionAbyssinianLion/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/19 02:54 AM
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Question For WomenAbyssinianLion/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 04:51 AM
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AbyssinianLion/r/MGTOW28/07/19 01:22 AM
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CMVAbyssinianLion/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 01:28 PM
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CMVAbyssinianLion/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 12:59 PM
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DiscussionAbyssinianLion/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 04:22 AM
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AbyssinianLion/r/MGTOW28/09/19 01:09 AM
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DiscussionAbyssinianLion/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 09:50 AM
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DebateAbyssinianLion/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 02:19 AM
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AbyssinianLion/r/MGTOW26/08/18 05:22 PM
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Nah we arent Ethiopian. We are Armenians who lived in Ethiopia since the genocide.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 05:19 PM
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FDS types seem like the born again Christians of the dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 01:46 AM
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Its difficult to delineate what men feel about women is "instinctive" and what is socialised. And then theres the whole caveat of mating strategy to consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 01:40 AM
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No, they behaved like any other young western woman when they were in their 20s. There was nothing extreme about their behaviour . My mother just doesnt want to contend with the fact that freedom has downsides too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 01:36 AM
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No, I dont think its sarcasm. More like desperation clouding her thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 11:52 PM
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Australia.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 11:43 PM
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Middle eastern Christian whose merchantile family used to live in Ethiopia(its a bit complicated).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 11:41 PM
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Yeah, lol. Because Im the oldest boy in my family despite being the middle child. I have two other sisters who are older than me. I think my mother is just frustrated. The women in my family hated traditionalism of their old country and the roles boys played in being the leaders of the family and "guiding the women". Heck Ive gotten complaints when I was younger by my distant relatives who thought our family were too western and I was supposed to be the upholder of old world virtues and norms. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 11:39 PM
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I say neither. Probably kissing. I specifically felt really vulnerable when I experienced my first kiss.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 11:19 PM
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It doesnt make a difference though . The vast proportion of recycled waste is either dumped in some thirdworld countries backyard or burned for fuel, both of which is is pretty shite for the environment. Only a minority of recycled waste is actually recycled and turned to different products. Its why countries like China are rejecting tge wests recycled waste because the locals are starting to cause a racquet about the amount of toxic dumping and burning sites that are making life harder for aver…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 11:04 PM
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Lmao. No one will unite. What will happen is that a consensus will be reached, with the side with the most powerful position(women) will have more of a say when it comes to formulating the new gender contract. Itll pretty much be gender based Realpolitiks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 10:15 PM
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Exactly. I don't understand why the meninist here think a blowback would necessarily mean going back to the good old days, when we could just be entering another version of traditionalism thatll resemble more like an FDS paradise, and where men will still have the short end stick. Traditionalism like the old days is pretty much dead because the conditions that gave rise to those gender norms dont exist anymore. I think it could be even worse for average men in the future. Average men and below a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 10:10 PM
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My family elders have been dealing with this problem ever since my sister's passed the age of 30. This is coming from a fairly non feminist traditional immigrant family. My older spinster sister recently passed the age of 38 and has rejected every high status dude from the community they could find. Shes pretty much hit the wall this year and I think shes starting to regret being so picky. I guess she thought she would be young and pretty for the rest of her life. Its annoying because my mother …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 10:00 PM
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In legal western countries like Australia, trafficked girls are an extreme minority. Will you be ditching most clothing brands that have supply chains in China and the rest of Asia, since there's higher proportion of coerced women working in sweatshops, like muslim minorities in China?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 11:49 AM
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The women here who have no problem being impulse driven consumerists purchasing products that most people know involves slave labour and exploitation of third world women and being the main drivers of an exploitative global network of sweatshops producing garnents for the fashion industry and exploitative global capitalism in general suddenly become humanitarians when an extreme minority of escorts in legalised countries are unfortunate trafficking victim's. They are selective moralising for obv…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 08:04 AM
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No, we are talking about the increasing proportion of young men who are sexless for years and lack the relationship experience of the average woman and as they reach their thirties, they start to have relationships with these same women. Some put that as 1 in 3, it could be greater if you take account of guys who are having sex once every few months but dont have what it takes to secure a stable relationship. There's going to be a lot of resentful guys in their late 20s. They will be perfect rec…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 10:17 PM
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You know what, you win. YOU WIN. Now go away, Im done debating you. You wont concede even an inch, its clear youre not arguimg in good faith and see this as a game. Dont reply to me again. Youve just triggered my nicotine urges because of how frustrating you are. I hope youre happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 09:36 PM
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I agree, but most men through their naivity and sense of fairness didnt know was that even the girl he saw as his equal was getting thrashed by Chad, and would continue to be in his pseudo harem right through her 20s, which is contributing to a lot of men missing out on sweet youthful relationships and sex. This is so taboo to even talk about around non redpill circles that anyone who dare admits it is seen as an Incel who hates women and is about to shoot up poor stacy. So yes, whilst men saw t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 09:19 PM
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Omg, I guess Ill need call up the Norwegian institute to create a study to determine the hapiness of these men, just for you... Even though childless middle aged white men have known to have higher than average suicude rates and poor mental health. https://www.livescience.com/28414-childless-men-more-depressed.html Read the last VOX link. I edited it just after you replied because I knew it wouldnt be enough. The mid terms saw white women abandon the GOP. Will you concede an inch now?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 09:05 PM
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Oh really? A new report shows a huge shift in political identification among Millennial women. According to the Pew Research Center, seven out of ten now self-identify as Democrats or Democratic leaners. That’s an increase of 14 percentage points since 2014. https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/03/21/how-millennial-women-may-change-our-politics/ https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2020/02/19/the-future-is-female-how-the-growing-political-power-of-women-will-remake-american-po…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 08:39 PM
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Most men agree. What we should do is be honest about the inequities of dating, female solipsism and hypergamy as a society, and encourage men to improve themselves and be a bit redpilled. Societies that are honest about mens own sexual deficit, female sexuality and the willingness of women to treat men like utility and status symbols, the less problems we will have. Although thatll espouse getting rid of the halo of moral superiority and some gynocentrism that women enjoy. Also, the more men kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 08:15 PM
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Lol. It says in the article itself that men desire children as much as women , yet there's a huge and growing gulf between male and female childlessness . I dont think youll ever concede any ground , even if its obvious in the Norwegian case that your premise is a bit flawed. Stop bringing up race. We are talking about women as a whole, and especially women at peak fertility who are more likely than men in their equivalent racial and age demographic to vote left,, not just middle aged white wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 07:59 PM
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Yeah, this sounds more like it. I dont think demonising women for having those standards will do anything good. But I think its important for society to start being honest to young guys about skyrocketting female standards and telling as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 06:53 PM
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I agree. This is going to happen eventually. This kinda used to happen in muslim countries where polygamy is rampant. An increasing number of low status unmarried Beta males are taught to see sex as harmful and useless not within the configns of marriage, and spend their days either becoming a soldier of Allah if theyre a the hopeless case or accumulating enough wealth to offer a dowry to marry some guys 14 tear old daughter after they've spent their youth working themselves to an early grave. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 06:39 PM
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If that was the case, there wouldnt be a huge disparity beteeen childless men and women in Norway
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 04:25 PM
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The state will increasingly play a bigger role in childrens lives. Institutionalised feminism is gaining ground every year around the west, and feminist welfare states are going to be more common out of necessity. Women are the most powerful voting demographic, dont underestimate what they can do to ensure their kids will have a good future, however irresponsible theyve been or how itll affect men. I know a few polyamorous women who are single mothers who are talking to my council about a commun…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 04:08 PM
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Lol. Im sure the quarter and growing of predominantly working class Norwegian men who will be childless despite living in an economic paradise and feminist welfare state, with a trillion dollar soverein wealth fund feel great about theur situation. Face it, women and how they pick men is a factor in this all. To say its a non factor and that the economy is all to blame is just nonsensical.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 02:20 PM
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Maybe this was the case when armies and their economies rose with the blood, sweat and tears of average men. But society has changed a lot. Low value men are truly disposable today. We have robots to do what miners did, we have machines to build what men used to build, killer drones to do the mans dirty work. This will be more of the case with the march of technological progress. Low value men are a lost cause in the face of ever more productivity and automation. The only real solution is to che…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 02:09 PM
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I doubt that. But we will agree to disagree. I dont think you know what virtue signaling is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 12:06 PM
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Sounds like we are a few years from ending up like Norway. https://sciencenorway.no/childlessness-fathers-forskningno/a-quarter-of-norwegian-men-never-father-children/1401047
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 11:33 AM
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But even if women here were as accusatory as men here for problems that disproportionately affect women and men have have a hand it contributing, youd at least see some of the more reasonable male posters here admit that sucks and even even agree to a certain extent, even if they believe that women are also there own worse enemies I dont think Ive ever seen any female posters here do just that, and this place apparently attracts open minded rationale women. I mean whatever you think whether its …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 10:48 AM
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Thats why almost every person will know a woman in their family who cant get enough of certain "BS" men who are well endowed in one way or another?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 07:41 AM
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Well, those are stupid, barely fleshed out arguments thatll get demolished by anyone here, but I agree with the basic premise. I mean if you look at pieces of legislations that has gotten the most support from women, and political manifestos and policies of female identitarian leaning groups, they tend to conveniently align with the female sexual imperative. Policies widely supported by women like progressive welfare reform that transfers wealth mainly from male workers and small business owners…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 07:55 PM
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Are most men that pathetic? Well I guess I have something to feel good about
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 06:17 PM
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Yeah, I guess some guys will accept crappy behaviour from hot women for the first few months of hot sex. But eventually, youll get sick of that shit and the novelty of have hot sex with a new hot girl will wane enough that her flaws will start to bother you. Most cunty women who use their beauty to get away with bad behaviour have a steriotype of being unloyal serial cheaters too and most guys dont want that drama or anxiety. There will be those who will do though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 06:14 PM
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As long as she doesnt show manipulative behaviour and has a heart, and passes my basic threshold of attractiveness(be within my age give or take 3 years, be relatively healthy), , ill probably accept lots of flaws. I have a lot of cold hearted unfeeling selfish narcissistic older women in my family(sociopathy runs in the family), and I know that behaviour does to others, so Ill probably keep an eye on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 05:59 PM
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Fair enough. He sounds lile a top bloke!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 03:59 PM
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Well yeah, they dont want to admit that they kind of liked those guys when they younger, even if they seem corny now. So it is a bit of saving face. Im sure they still treasure those memories of sweet youth and the emotions they felt getting fucked and chased by Chad, abd they flick their beans to those memories when their husbands arent there, even if half the times, they later regretted those experiences. And there are plenty of women who are completely unashamed of the kind of guys they hooke…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 03:58 PM
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Yeah, the redpill reformed bad boy uncle. But those guys are rare. Not every guy has the fortune of having an uncle like that, let alone be close enough that you become like a prodige or something . Not to mention Karen will tell said uncle to stop putting misogynistic ideas into her sons head. And the father tend to be too pussywhipped to say anything, even if he knows the dudes right about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 03:33 PM
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Its not even the case of women not being able to put themselves in a mans shoes, but simply the question of self awareness and willingness to admit some hard truths that may make them look less high n mighty than whar they project to others. These women must know what turns them on, whats their red flags, what they look in men for both casual and longterm relationships. And what kinds of male behaviours their sexual ego is most receptive to. And Im sure they discuss all the nitty gritty details …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 03:15 PM
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Hah. Back in my struggle days, my sister, who was married to some business dude who was a reformed bad boy and involved in some shady dealings told me the exact same thing. Im not autistic or naive enough to believe that shit, especially when its clear in my older sisters preference for her husband wasnt informed by those platitudes, but for guys who havent swallowed the female cynicism pill, itd be like getting a message from a prophet. Most women really dont do soul crushing yet honest constru…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 02:31 PM
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Yeah, Ive got a few studues. Ill post later.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 08:31 PM
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My piano teacher thought that because I began learning piano later in life, that I had to put double the time than her other younger pupils. The learning curve n all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 11:52 AM
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If I knew we were going to have a global pandemic, and I was going to lose my job, maybe I wouldnt have sold my Yamaha piano and I would have kept up with the lessons.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 12:54 AM
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I dont think dancing classes will be a thing for a long time, until this coronavirus is dealt with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 11:43 PM
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Most men that have adult responsibility and expectations dont have a spare few hours a day to start cool hobbies so they can attract a certain demographic of artsy women . You can tell teenage dudes to do this, since they still have the luxury of boredom to entertain different hobbies, but once you start working, maintaining time consuming hobbies, let starting new exciting hobbies that require a ton of initial time and financial investment isnt realistic. For example, I had to stop piano lesson…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 11:29 PM
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Actually, quite a few blue pill and purple pill dudes agree about the main gist of what a lot of red pillers say here, perhaps not as extreme as RP believe though. Only women here are opposing the premise. Seems like this issue unites men from all pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 10:30 PM
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You need natural talent and an obsession to art to be that trope. Most men arent talented and dont have the will to destroy their financial future to fullfil the fantasy of some early to mid 20s chick abd take up art as a living. Many just dont have the time for it to be a major part of their life. Stupid thread
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 05:24 PM
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Ok ill bite. If someone is so depressed they cease to properly function and do normal routines, then that sounds like serious longterm clinical depression. Doing the housework is the least of your concerns. Once you enter that emotional death spiral, everything becomes harder to do and theres no joy in the world. Even the cortisol that is built up in your muscle actually makes it hard to move your muscle, as cortisol is an inflammatory hormone. And men seem to be more affected by this feeling of…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 04:32 PM
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Ok. Another strawman...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 03:45 PM
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But women all over the world do more housework and child rearing than men regardless of country. Ok. Are we talking about chores now or have I accidentally clicked on another thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 03:40 PM
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Because at one point or another every man in this thread who has writtem about his experience took the blue pill,, and told women about their problems and it either backfired or he was shown only indifference. Generally, men learn from their mistakes. Im sure there are women who wouldnt behave like this but sadly men arent in the business of exposing themselves to shitty odds.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 03:37 PM
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Exactly. Do we ever say "women are coddled too much", despite the fact that men perform the role of a rock in a relationship? No, because its expected. Whereas the complaints of coddling and emotional labour from women are raised as legitimate gender issues because according to our culture and dominant gender norms, men shouldn't be cared for as much as a man would care and help out a woman. He should be independent, and solve his own problems, and not burden women with emotional labour. A man b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 03:26 PM
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I think this applies especially to some older couples in my neighborhood(late 30s and upward), where relationships become stale, women feel settled and too invested in their relationships, and some men relax more and mellow out and both seem to let themselves go, which can succumb to a nurturing mother-son type of relationship, and sex isnt as important. But personally, as someone who has tons of married cousins and siblings in their early 30s and late 20s, I havent noticed this. Guys I know bot…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 01:35 PM
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I live in a city with tons of spanish dudes who came here for work. I have a few portuguese, Brazilian and Spanish friends who work with me at one of the biggest shipyards in my state. I dont see much difference in how both Anglo and spanish men behave. Both seem trapped by the same gender expectations and have the same struggles. The women who subscribe to the emotional and passionate latin macho men steriotype tend to uhh.. get their ideas of latin men from certain sultry romance novels that a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 10:34 AM
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You can say that about a few women, but wed be circle jerking if youd say that about most women, when its just not true. Although yes, tons of women wouldnt want anything to do with your problems aside from the obligatory "thats sad hun" and move on, assuming youll fix your shit eventually. Many will pretend to care, only to resent you later on for putting a burden of truth on them. Some will legitimately help you, but this is the minority according the experience of a lot of my friends. Male pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 09:53 AM
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Yep. If its a small problem, that you can overcome by yourself and will highlight your resolve to get through tough times, show and tell. Your woman will be impressed. If your suffering through things you know will consume you if you dont get help, and you need someone to hold your hand and support, keep that shit to yourself. Preferably seek a friend and take a break from relationships. Women have a primal instinct to avoid men who would be a liability if, lets just say, there was a major catas…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 07:53 AM
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Yes, as they reach middle age and beyond . But the difference in death rate during peace time between men and women around peak fertility/marriage age is negligible. It doesnt fully explain the phenomena of the missing men in the family tree, as the NYT science blogger puts it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 04:00 PM
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Those trends continued even during peace time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 03:43 PM
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Well thats womens problems. Thirsty men treat women, especially if they've passed the low threshold of attractiveness like theyre goddesses , dont be surprised they actually believe it and think anything less is harrassment. If men treated women the same as women treat men in their daily life , a lot of problems both women abd men here complain about would be solved. If you respect women without kissing their feet like the average simp, and women complain, then just know at least youre doing you…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 03:30 PM
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Im talking about undesirable men. They need to stop putting women on a pedestal and stop thinking theyre legitimate sexual prospects. For their sakes so they can stop torturing themselves. I dont think you should treat them like a man exactly, but more like a platonic non sexual friend. Maybe like a sister or a female relative you feel indifferent to, but still respect out of common courtesy. I think this would be good advice for most men to be honest, with the exception of social gatherings.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 03:21 PM
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Ive heard of it. Ignoring the misogyny and covert pussy obsession of the sub, MGTOW as a philosophy isnt going to be appealing to most of these men. And it doesnt solve the alienation problem. I guess some guys have taken MGTOWs advice and fostered self reliance, independence, and emotional fulfillment through other means than a romantic relationship. But as the sub suggests, most MGTOWs are frustrated and alienated. MGTOW isnt going to offer these guys much fullfillment, and like the sub, their…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 03:00 PM
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This is gaslighting. Im pretty sure a man who raises issues about their dating problem today, especially if he is low status is labelled an incel. We arent talking about romance novels written about the dating woes of previleged white women like Jane Austen and co. Or its popular modern equivalent, which includes far more diversity in women, yet no such men. Standard people dont have time for male dating problems. And even less if he is an icky low value genetic dead end.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 02:40 PM
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I think the manosphere/MRAs still has a role in shaping what new social roles these undesirable men should play. "Standard people" do not care about the dating woes or alienation of an increasing number of men, so someone has to think about the solutions. MRA types and the manosphere should refocus on that instead of trying to reinvigorate a gender contracts made during a time when gender power dynamics and society was different.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 02:16 PM
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Not according to genetic studies. https://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/sep/24/women-men-dna-human-gene-pool https://tierneylab.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/08/20/is-there-anything-good-about-men-and-other-tricky-questions/ https://sciencenorway.no/childlessness-fathers-forskningno/a-quarter-of-norwegian-men-never-father-children/1401047 Male childlessness and romantic failure is a common theme in human history. As stricter traditional monogamy wanes and gives way to serial monogamy, polygamy and p…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 01:54 PM
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You can focus on different issues at the same time. Would you tell feminists to stop complaining about western women being over burdened by emotional labour and hurting their mental health with too much stress load because muslim girls are getting mutilated in North Africa?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 01:45 PM
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Treat a woman like how you would treat another man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 01:37 PM
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The vast majority of incels arent bad people, nor do they go on obscure dating forums on reddit. Anyone who knows a few know most of them are just depresssed introverts or your everyday joes who just dont get laid abd try not to focus on the fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 11:46 AM
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Yeah, guys have a tendency of exaggerating their numbers. If they are being truthful, then 20-40 is pretty high. Probably top 20 percent. Generally Guys overestimate, women underestimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 12:45 PM
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N count of 20 plus is pretty experienced territory so your male friends are apart of that exclusive high n count crowd. Body counts of more than 100 is just extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 12:40 PM
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I know it from personal experience
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 12:08 PM
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Yes, STDs spreads slower than airborne Coronaviruses, but they still have wide impacts across different demographics. According to your logic, countries like Swaziland, that have near population saturation rates of STDs like HIV shouldn't exist. It shouldnt have spread to children and men and women in monogamous relationship. STDs can spread just as much as airborne viruses. Just give it time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 11:43 AM
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Youd think this virus and lockdown would make you understand that when it comes to pathogens, no man is an island. The choices you make does have an impact on others. Its your choice to contribute to the problem, and no one should restrict anyone elses freeedoms. But dont comfort yourself with self delusions that has been thoroughly debunked by recent events.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 11:28 AM
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Its the leading cause of throat cancer for men besides ciggys. My uncle whose a specialist in his field thinks with the way STDs are spreading and mutating, we will eventually have another AIDs epidemic that wont be treatable for a long time. So I think people like yourselves who have a faire de lasse approach to casual sex will probably be dooming the next generation. I guess this the "fuck you, got mine" attitude that is popular these days and is going to lead to a lot of problems in the futur…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 11:11 AM
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Yet in some studies, women carry three times more STDs than men despite their sexual selectiveness, and are more likelier to go raw for Chad. Seems like with the exception of dudes who visit escorts, Chad is the likeliest dude to be a walking petri dish.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 11:04 AM
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I kinda enjoy doing high risk sex stuff that so many women love, but which carries an added risk for me. So personally, I wouldnt wanna eat out a woman from some random party, but Id like to eat put someone who I know isnt carrying something. According to someone, theres been a few mutantions of herpes detected by labs here that isnt covered by the vaccine and Im becoming a bit worried for my health.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 10:59 AM
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That logic doesnt make sense. If youre scared of pregancy, then just dont have casual sex with random dudes. And statistically, your least likely to orgasm through casual sex then if you were in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 10:55 AM
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I have doctors in my family who would say otherwise. STDs like are a leading cause of throat cancers for men who do cunnilingus on women. STDs can inflane the penis, which could lead to penile cancers. STDs can become a major comorbidity thatll increase your likelyhood of succumbing to other health issues. STDs can increase painfullness in your privates which makes sex harder to enjoy. I mean there is a reason why weve had expensive campaigns to stop STD spreads. And every spread just makes it l…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 10:39 AM
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Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 09:13 AM
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I agree. Ive never cried when I spiral, I just get numb. Crying is a pretty good sign your feeling things, so its probably a better show that your partner isnt totally fucked up. But most women I know seem more troubled by the fact that a man cries , than if his behaviour changes and he becomes as emotionally numb and retreats, which is worse. Some men do get stoic and resolve, but I think for most men, feeling numb, quiet and heavy is a sign that you've crossed a pretty bad emotional threshold …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 08:47 AM
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I dont think youll ever get an honest answer from women here since itll only make them look bad to admit that the emotional vulnerability that a lot of women display to their partners would be incredibly unattractive on men. Women here seem more interested in behaving like PR managers for their gender than being honest. From my experience as a man who suffers from depression from time to time, a little cry or brief show of vulnerability followed by a strong resolve is ok once in a blue moon and …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 08:38 AM
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Well yes, some men. Im just being honest. Some guys, just dont develop the tools to handle those urges. Add some impulse/anti social disorder, abd you have trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 05:23 PM
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No, Im just saying, testosterone can make a mans sex a drive a bit more unbearable than what the avg women experience. FtM have said this. No need for hyperbole.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 05:14 PM
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Russia is a society whose cultural, economic, governmental and social institutions encourages traditional gender role, that just isnt the case in the west. With the exception of major cities, Russia is a poor second world or middle income country that in the midst of an Orthodox Christian renaissance that is merging religion with Putins fascist state. Russian men may complain, but at least they know they still have a somewhat fair gender contract where both men and women are trapped by both econ…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 12:28 PM
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You live in Russia. You dont realise how hypocritical western women are when it comes to demands about being freed from female gender roles whilst constantly enforcing narrow performative masculine ideals on men. Or they subtly shame and emasculate men who dont follow the script, like my so called empowered feminist sister who didnt want to be a primary breadwinner when her husband fell into a mental health decline and needed to take a half year break from the full time/overtime grind. Western w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 11:56 AM
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So what entails performative feminine roles where most women feel compelled to fulfill despite not bringing them much joy or ROI?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 11:32 AM
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I meant current roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 11:19 AM
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I think men here tend to be in their 20s, which is the age when women have tons of power, whilst PPD seems to be full of women whove passed that peak age.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 11:18 AM
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I wonder, do women hate their performative feminine roles as much as many men hate their performative masculine roles?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 11:14 AM
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Yep, its depressing. Which is why Im driven to self improve everyday. Im aiming to look like peak mark wahlberg in my late 20s. This is what an average dude must do to have casual sex with healthy women. Healthy average looking women are the new stacies
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 11:10 AM
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Is that why its popular for women to call men they dont like virgins? Women do care, they just put emphasis on the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 11:01 AM
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Nah, I think you can have healthy kids without a relationship. You just got to be able to convince your mother to be the mother figure for your child and have enough cash to be able to afford a surrogate and an egg from a non drug addicted, preferably above avg IQ career spinster. It can be done, and perhaps will be the preferable way to have a family if things get even more transactional and cut throat in dating and relationships. Your mother take cares of the kid, whilst you can date and have …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 10:18 AM
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Ask any FtM person how their sex drive feels after getting testosterone hormone therapy. Women will never understand how difficult it is to be a sexually frustrated man with those crazy hormones, until they start having hormone therapy in order to be more like a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 09:17 AM
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Women prefer the brutal free market that seperates the undesirable genetic dead ends from the desirables and the added SMV in a casual dating scene over men. Not to mention that average women are increasingly prefering to be serial monogamists with a shrinking minority of recycled high status men, than pair off with mediocre men, even if it comes at the cost of stability. Most men are too short sighted to realise that casual dating will be a net benefit to a non majority of men and let their thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 08:15 AM
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Personally, I love going down on wonen. And its really hard to do that when you know her bits has hosted god knows how many dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 04:10 PM
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Im sure there are plenty of men who are bad lovers for no other reasons than they are selfish pricks. But theres also plenty of guys who are capable of being very unselfish lovers, but that is contingent on a lot of women being fuckable and being appreciative of their husbands. The average American woman is more than 30 pounds overweight. Do you think men wanna be caressing and providing great oral to some chick who looks like a deflated tire man when shes lying on the bed? Ive had relationships…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 06:32 PM
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Im volcel because of Mental health problems. Im not unattractive enough to not get female attention and have relationships but Im not attractive enough to have casual sex on tap like Chadlite/Chad without some godly amount of effort that I cant be fucked expending. A few women I knew were giving me the signs that they wanted to have a relationship, or were interested, which would obviously lead to sex. But I turned them down because I was and still am going through things, and I know from my pas…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 05:16 PM
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Couldnt give a fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 02:30 AM
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I totally agree. Ive just gotten furloughed so Ive picked up carpentry recently, trying to repaint my old wardrobe, Im renovating my room to look like a morrocan escape. Im cycling 50 kms everyday. Honestly, it takes a bit of imagination but its hard to be bored if you have a little motivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 01:22 AM
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Yeah I agree. It whats you find compelling in a person that matters. But with men, I think you have more options, because even though what someome finds compelling in a person is different to what someone else finds compelling, women have male variability to work with to find out what works for them. Whereas women arent as divergent in personality so guys who arent just selecting women according to how hot they are, but how compelling their core personality is to them have less options.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 01:14 AM
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I think an interesting individuals can open up a new world view for others to explore, or doing things that the other party hasnt done, so I dont think its strictly about holding a mirror towards oneself. Although I am open to the idea It could be either, depending on the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 12:57 AM
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I guess if youre atypical but anti social, its going to help you. You need social skills either way. But personally, Ive felt sociable atypicals are far more interesting than most people Ive spoken to. Being atypical is not just being wierd though
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 12:48 AM
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Well I did say "a major part of". Straying from the norm and being individualistic isnt a silver bullet to being regarded an interesting person by others, but youre probably half way there. I just linked a study that shows that men vary far more in personality than women, so even if there is a female equavalent to those archetypes(which doesn't capture the nuances of the individual), they are less common or less divergent from the behavioural norm when compared to men. We are speaking in relativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 12:35 AM
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A major part of being an interesting person is about willing to stray from the norm and upholding your own individualism. The study says men are more likely to do that then women. If you have group full of men, which comprises of the aggro school drop out, the sensitive artist, the jock, the comedian, the nerdy incel, the socially successful sociopath, the high IQ autists, the effiminate gender non conforming dude, the obsessed tech bros, the empath, the peter pan, the weed bros, the abused bull…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 11:50 PM
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I guess having a social life? But a few studies have also confirmed male variability may extend to personality. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3612964/ Do men vary more than women in personality? >Evolutionary, genetic, and cultural arguments suggest that hypothesis. In this study we tested it using 12,156 college student raters from 51 cultures who described a person they knew well on the 3rd-person version of the Revised NEO Personality Inventory. In most cultures, male targets v…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 11:26 PM
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Most men have to be somewhat entertaining and interesting to date women. The upside of women expecting men to lead, pursue and prove their value, is that a lot of men are forced to develop a personality that is attractive to women, especially when you feel like you have hardly any inherent value compared to women.. Also its almost a competition among many men to be entertaining, funny and inteteresting. Male friendship may not be as emotionally close as female friendships, but at least men learn…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 10:52 PM
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Also r/menslib. Those fags hate RPer with a passion that rivals Feminists. Should be interesting if a few of them came here to debate. Although I get the feeling theyre a bit passive and not used to having biased mods censor the other side
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 11:23 AM
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Not to mention they carry a shit ton of STDs and baggage, from their days dating these so called assholes. Back when I wasnt a hermit and was actually dating, there were so many women I knew who were trying to normalise their STDs or make it seem cool to have an STD. Youd think with women being the gender that has more of a disgust impulse, most women would be against casual sex and having too many partner's.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 11:19 AM
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Youre not making good arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 03:50 PM
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Well, theyre basically two vastly different experiences for both men and women. Just ask the folks at datingover30. They should have divided the study into 3 groups(18 to 24, 25 to 32, 32 to 40). How results of each age demographic differed would have been a more interesting topic, than this thinly vieled attempt to push a narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 03:46 PM
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I had a mini mental breakdown when it dipped that low, and my psychologist suggested to stop focusing on the stock market and focus on my health. I totally regret not buying it then. I bought it when it reached 650. Not good because Tesla is not going to pay me the dividends to justify my shitty investment for at least another 5 years. I hope Musk has a mental breakdown so I can buy low, like I should have before. Musk is right, the stock is overvalued right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 03:37 PM
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No, anger is a useless emotion if it isnt compelling you to change for the better. Personally, I just feel colder towards women in general. The day that my gyming, and hard works pays off, Ill treat women as disposable as theyve treated me in the past. Other than that Ill enjoy fleeting relationships, with the knowledge that they never last, and Im better off watching my own back than sacrificing myself for some broad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 03:29 PM
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Because when your study has an average age approaching mid 30s, then it is more about the dating phenomena of those in that demographic than younger men and women. There is a blurred but still significant demarcation in the experiences of dating when it comes to age for both men and women. The studies also relies on a shit ron of older, almost ancient reference dating studies, theres no reference study more recent than 2012. It either means this isnt a study on the contemporary dating scene, or …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 03:22 PM
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Why did you fail to disclose in your OP that the average age of those who took part in the study is approaching mid 30s for both men and women? Thats a really important tidbit, and l one that I assume you intentionally left it out to push a certain narrative. I mean, everyone here knows that is the age when dating begin to either even out or get skewed heavily against women. Even if the study takes account of how both men and women in the study rated each, it doesnt take account of the collectiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 03:05 PM
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I dont think they're intentionally doing that, they just cant help but feel repulsed by a lot of men. And the minority of guys who they see as dateable and have fleeting relationships with dont stick around or they eventually grow apart. By the time they do have that existential crisis, they'd be too old and the leftover screwed up dudes who are willing to marry some old spinster would be far more repulsive than the guys they rejected in their 20s. My sister and a few of my cousins who reached t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 02:24 PM
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Well yeah. Ive seen it in my own family. Many women would prefer to be alone than lower their standards and date lesser men. I see similar sentiment here as well, especially when it comes looks. Women are stubborn as fuck. And it works for them, so kudos to women for not letting their mommy urges compromise the power they have over men. I wish men were able to ignore their urges and raise their standards too, and not compromise. A lot of women see loneliness as preferable than waking up everyday…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 01:53 PM
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Masculinity is more of an act or a dance than simply being to fullfil your utility. A man can maintain his sense of masculinity and masculine energy, even when he is bedridden by following the masculine playbook . But ofcourse, theres a limit to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 12:15 PM
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There are more women going spinster, including half my female relatives who are in elite occupations and who are not willing to entertain marrying average men. Why do you think marriage rates has fallen whilst loneliness has increased for those passed peak marriage age? Women hold the trump card that is there willingness to be alone than compromise their standard. A few studies have even pointed to the fact that the single biggest factor in a country having low marriage rates is whether women we…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 11:54 AM
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I think you can appreciate the difference between suffering from a physical disease, which doesnt take away from a mans masculinity and which can highlights a man resolve and strength in the face of hardship. And suffering of the disease mind and spirit, which many women percieve to be weakness from men and severe defect . Im mean, Ive gotten into serious workplace accidents which left me incapacitated and full of pain for months. Yet because I showed stoicism and strength, even when I had sever…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/20 11:43 AM
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Oh god Elon. Dont do it. My Tesla stocks cant take it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 09:25 PM
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Reddit only cares about profit and maximising its userbase. Men makeup 80 pervent of Reddit existing users. So theres a lot of incentives and growth potential to tap into the female social media market. One way of attracting women to reddit is to have a laissez faire approach to misandrist female exclusivist subs that is pretty much an extension of female Tumblr culture. Reddit gets more useers by appealing to mainstream misandry thatll attract the female equivalent of neckbeard incels and femin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 11:48 AM
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The truth. At this point, blue pill vs red/purple pill debate among women is now a litmus test on the willingness of the average woman to gaslight men about dating. I dont think theres many true blue pilled women left on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 01:56 AM
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That statistics isnt talking about single men under 30, but men who have a sex drought for more than 1 and a half years.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 01:51 AM
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Mostly I'm confused about why you're certain it doesn't exist, if that's what you're saying? Can you explain what youre describing though? Do you mean how porn elevates mens expectations in bed or something? Mostly I'm confused about why you're certain it doesn't exist, if that's what you're saying? All Im saying if, this thing really is as repellant as you say it is, youd see more women outrightly rejecting men as partners for it. Most women care more anout initial attraction, job status, perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 01:11 AM
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Also, theyre just tired of constantly performing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 12:40 AM
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Most sex with women have been rather disappointing once the novelty wears off. Most women seem to think that just playing a passive role is good enough for them, and they can get the man do all the work. To be fair, Men enable this behaviour. Personally, I like women who can take both an active and passive role. But most women are a bit reactive in their sexuality and need a man to constantly chase them, act on them, think about their desires to wanna fug. Thats why Id rather masturbate half the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 12:07 AM
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Women tend to make unreliable friends, who will change the dynamic of every male-male friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 05:38 PM
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Chad is someone who is viscerally attractive to women. The most desirable of men watch porn to the least desirable. If porn really is kryptonite to women, all types of men should be affected because its that normalized. Incels and undesirable men dont have a monopoly on porn consumption. Excessive porn use is detrimental, like anything. But most men arent addicted to porn. Women are not selecting men based on the likelyhood thet watch porn, but on other amoral factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 04:44 PM
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I also think men are just as sexually temperamental as women when the novelty wears off, but most men dont have the guts to ask their women to change their typical sex style, positions or roles. Or women simply arent interested in discomforting themselves and taking a leading role in order to make their men more interested in sex. For example, tons of guys admit that they dont always want to be the dom or the lead, or the active agent . But many women dont want to fulfill that role of being the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 03:50 PM
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Lol. Women were complaining about the same thing in the 1800s and 1900s, before porn ever existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 03:35 PM
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It seems, to me, like men can have romantic desire without sexual desire and vice versa, or something like that. Thats basically it. Strong sexual desire can be there at the start but it tends to leave eventually. But there are stronger and more emotionally fulfilling desires at play as well which keeps men in those marriages. Most men know that our sexual impulses for the same girl are rather short-lived. But we still love them and cherish them. Its extremely hard for women to understand the ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 03:21 PM
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I dont think men who watch porn are going to automatically view women as meat, and emit an aura of creepiness which women like yourself can detect. Chad watch lots of porn, objectify women, and can still have women wanting more. And Inceldom has more to do with online dating and the failure of male socialision than porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 02:48 PM
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The bad thing is, this is driving tons of Arab guys to double down on their shitty culture and marry some traditional chick from their own countries, which is leading to the guys in those countries to migrate to the west because tgey cant compete with the diaspora guys dowry.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 02:21 PM
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Men also know that if you have the energy to approach women, then you have the energy to set up a dating profile which leads to better things. I take it youre not a man. Old is even harder for most men than approaching women offline. OLD is practically worthless if youre not above average. At least in person, you can compensate by using game and showcasing your personality for not being chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 01:57 PM
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Spot on. Girls who arent taken, are either plates for Chad or too neurotic to want to be aproached by men, but still have pretty high standards. Being a bitch is a norm now for single girls over a certain age. Guys, get em young, or else youll be left with trying to woo Chads plate who thinks being a cum bin for Chad means shes entitled to a prince and whos too hardened by her experiences and neurotic introverts with high opinions of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 01:46 PM
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Go to any old world/conservative/developing country that have the same gender dynamics as the west before feminism. Women are much nicer to men and respect men far more than western women. In the old country, having your advances rejected by a woman wasnt a soul crushing experience. I mean they have their problems like rampant female abuse and poverty, but I understand why Incels glorify those cultures, even if theyd still be sexless losers in those societies. Women are taught to respect men, es…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 01:36 PM
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We had sex with our male friends on the down low.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 04:15 PM
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Honestly, this subreddit should be called r/Asktrp-lite.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 03:59 PM
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You sound cool. Peace
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 03:56 PM
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Lol. I dont know, I personally mostly masturbate to my imagination
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 03:46 PM
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Really. Is that what our marriage and single motherhood rates suggests? Men may be more disposables in one way, but women are too when it comes to commitment. We are all disposable in our Neoliberal atomised wasteland. You keep pretending you can punch down without repercussion, theyll always be someone above you who will return the favour eventually. Narcissistic pseudo social darwinists I know in my life tend to be lonely anti social people. I doubt youre making anyone a sandwich. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 03:35 PM
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So womens natural role in life is to be chained to a kitchen, because for much of human history, men only envisage women as primary caregivers first. I hope youre making your husband a nice sandwhich and learning your place in the "natural orders of things". Or is that only for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 03:23 PM
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But youre assuming porn is the cause of all the quarter of ED cases. Factors that directly affect your health like leading a sedentry lifestyle, obesity, illicit drugs/antidepressant use, stress and, poor sleep probably contributes more to the problem than looking at videos of boobies and masturbating to them once a day. Unsafe masturbation methods too. I put the number of porn induced ED way below a quarter. And I dont see people freaking out about the fact that a lot of women cant orgasm nor d…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 02:47 PM
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Im not saying those dudes have a problem, but sometimes therebis an underlying problem why some men prefer porn over sex, despite sex being way better. Maybe something to do with sexual compatibility or pressure to perform? Some guys just have kinks that are too out there for their partners or the gf/wife believes in strict gender roles when it comes to sex and the man wants to be lead on by his partner, but most women would rather not do that. So he goes to porn to get his fix.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 02:06 PM
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Yes, a minority as Ive said
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 01:57 PM
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Then why are lesbians more likely to get dead bedrooms when compared to gay and straight couples, despite women watching less porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 01:55 PM
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Believe it or not, youre a minority. Most men whove eber been single watch porn, and it aint making them less able to have sex or else we would have a sharp population decline
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 01:50 PM
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"If men are really that fearful of death, why do thousands of men jump to deaths from bridges each year"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:33 PM
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Im not going to say much, because it is private and Id rather not talk about it. But most of my partners wanted me to be the rock in the relationships, even when they knew I had issues. When they had their moments of weakness, I was there for them. But they werent there for me when I fell. They made me feel like a defective man and worthless when I couldnt do what I was supposed to do. Im a sensitive dude inside but now I make sure I dont show women that part of myself, because they dont respect…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 11:57 AM
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Flirt away, like most married women in their workplaces already do. Nothing wrong with harmless flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 11:06 AM
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Zing... Women are having more sex, but with a shrinking proportion of men and are increasingly doing it casual, which means they dont orgasm as much as when they do it in a committed relationship. Almost like the BP narrative that young women having less sexual partners than the average man and are largely in committed relationships is falling apart. Millenial women are more likely to cheat and have casual sex than millenial men. Its probably worse for Zoomers. We are going to see major generati…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 10:40 AM
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Yes, Maam
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 09:40 AM
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Well, its a difficult choice that I constantly contend with, so I understand your position. But I guess I want Children and a family more than I want freedom to be who I am. Women use this fact against men who may want to tread a different path, but are held hostage by rigid female expectations. Even most women here have admitted theyd rather stay alone than entertain men behaving against gendered norms and roles. You cant say the same about men, who are more willing to be attracted to a wider r…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:05 AM
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Alot of women I know think their partners watching porn is light cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 05:28 AM
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Loneliness and feeling unwanted is far less enjoyable than putting on a facade, improving yourself and moulding your behaviour to something more attractive to the opposite sex, even if it makes you feel repressed. My father told most men who want to succeed in life and not become a another loser are going to suffer from repression, its about striking the right balance, and having an outlet to be your true self so you dont lose it. Most women wont accept you for who you are and your marriage will…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 05:26 AM
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Doesnt make a difference, men are going to reply
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 05:03 AM
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Most men dont want to marry a petri dish
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 04:21 AM
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Arent women disproportionately responsible for buying perishable fashion and health items with micro plastics in them that is finding their way into those polluted waters and the food chain? Maybe women should stop being the good consumerist class theyve managed to become in the last 70 years and live frugally like the men they despise, if they dont want men to grow bitch tits?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 04:45 PM
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I mean, I can definitely see why T levels are dropping for fatter older millenials and Gen Xers, but I have a feeling younger millenial/Zoomer gym culture will have a positive effect on T levels for young guys. It feels like half my friends are bulking up for summer.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 04:30 PM
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Really? In my country, they definitely do track it to the best of their ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 04:23 PM
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With the way my mother and every other immigrant woman describes men in the Old country, sometimes I think western millenials and gen Z guys are a product of an experiment by lizard aliens.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 04:20 PM
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All Im saying is, I think there is a generational change in how men treat domestic duties. Your fears about men not being able to take up some traditional female gender roles to make things more equal for women isnt founded for millenial and gen Z guys, who are more egalitarian and less rigid than most other generations of men that came before them. Also, Ive watched how couples like my parents, my relatives and my older friends behave. You dont have to experience being in an LTR to know what go…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 04:05 PM
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Most men my age arent married or in stable LTRs, so I dont even know what youre trying to say. Sounds like the a sitcom trope of the average married boomer/gen X tradcon or manchild who still believe in gendered destribution of labour.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 02:36 PM
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Ive worked both in a blue collar job and a white collar job, and because of physical fatigue, theres actually a limit to how much over time a blue collar worker gets before safety becomes a serious issue. I was a full time bricklayer when I was studying part time, and according to my OHS rep, you cant work more than 12 hours for prolonged periods of time before you start developing serious joint problems. Whilst white collar workers in Silicon valley are known to work in excess of 60 hours a wee…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 02:27 PM
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The problem is with this common argument is youre assuming the hours women spend doing unpaid work must be matched men for their to be equality. When it is understood by most that women have elevated expectations of cleanliness because of evolutionary reasons that is no longer relevent in a post germs theory world. Men shouldnt be trying to match womens needless hours toiling away in the kitchen so her primal brain can feel secure knowing that levels of harmful pathogens have veen reduced so she…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 02:09 PM
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Youre using examples of unique subcategory of millionaires whose main value lie in their respective brands, where marrying another millionaire with an equally compelling brand is seen as necessary business strategy to maintain relevency in a competitive brandscape. Theyre not representative of the average white collar or blue collar millionaire, especially outside of image conscious America. My doctor uncle is a legit multimillionaire who owns shit ton of land from an abandoned farm near the fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:31 AM
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Ive had casual sex with different women and Ive gone to escorts during long sex droughts, but Ive never felt this "bond". Im either a sociopath or some women are self projecting. I doubt most women feel the same way too, seeing how most women I know who are in their 20s have a contact list of fuccbois they can call when they need someone to scratch an itch.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 08:30 PM
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Well I really hope thats the case, and Im not forced to contribute more to the Tax coffers because women cant get enough of unstable relationships with unreliable men, which is seeing single mother rates skyrocket in my country, especially among millenial women. But I doubt you guys actually care about truly being independent of men. Women as a collective will just coerce men to support socdem bullshit that means men will support women through indirect means like bigger government. Normal men wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 07:44 PM
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As a 95 guy who is at the boundary of millenial/gen Z transition, I feel like millenials are the last generation to be culturally blue pilled about female and male nature. I think its no surprise that blue pillers here tend to be older millenials. A lot of my gen Z and younger millenial friends are just black pill doomers, cynical as fuck about dating, and having a normal life with wife and kids. I feel like with how this generation is turning into, we are going to see some pretty disturbing tre…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 11:13 AM
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This is all known if youve actually observed most women who arent your mothers. Its a generalisation that doesnt apppy to every woman out there, but theres enough women who are disgusted, creeped out, or indifferent to male sensitivity and vulnerability that you can say that it is a trend. Not much of a revelation OP. I just wonder when society will finally admit this, instead of blaming men or deh patriarchy for the kinds of anti social behaviour that is incentivised by half the population hold…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 10:41 AM
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The UMC folks know this, which is why they force their sons and daughters to join old societies abd Churches that their families have been with for generations, so they wont end up as totally atomised individuals. This only applies to Working class and middle class folks who have drank the Neoliberal hyper individualist coolaid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:37 AM
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Lol...it didnt quite sound right when I thought of it. I guess now it's obvious why I couldn't complete my Law degree. I have a mental disorder because of a chemical imbalance in my brain that gives me cognitive problems. My brain kinda stopped working properly for a few years. Couldn't even write a cohesive paragraph a few years ago, without popping a blood vessel. But Im getting better. I still suffer from obvious mistakes like wrongly using "Penultimate".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 03:23 PM
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Self projection
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 02:11 PM
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Also personally, as someone who used speak like a pretentious Oxford scholar for a few years and read about a 200 books a year, I'll expound why some men, like myself speak like that.. I used to be in one of the top Law schools in my areas, before health problems forced me to evaluate my whole life. Exercising that part of the brain kept your mind sharp. Constantly speaking in high tier academic English also made it easier to maintain concise and precise speech, which quite important in Law. Som…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 12:10 PM
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I hope you know that being this neurotic is not good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 11:58 AM
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All am saying is, have an open mind. Just because your husband or partner may not have those preferences(which youll never know), doesnt mean there arent "functional" men who dont. There are plenty of masculine men who may want to explore the other side you know. Sexuality is rarely rigid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 05:49 PM
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Lots of "functioning" men I know want to be pursued, desired and take a less dominant, more submissive role in sex. Who wouldnt want to be desired and pursued, and validated? Prudish Women like yourselves are just blind to this because men know that youre not so tolerant of their true desires, and keep that side of themselves hidden from you. But any woman with a tolerant and kinky bone in their body and who allows men to explore their sexuality without ridicule , would be aware of the flexibili…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 05:24 PM
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Yes From a person with a femdom fetish, but cant act out those preferences with most women without becoming a sexual outcast
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 04:05 PM
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Well they are. Why do you think steroid use is booming among younger millenials and zoomers? Women will get what they want eventually, as more men realise what they have to do to be appealing to increasingly vapid women. But commitment will probably decrease, and eventually you'll just see untouchable ugly men and commitment phobic looks obsessed Chad lites.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 02:52 PM
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Well then youre asking for the breakdown of gender relations, which will disproportionately affect women. Sure, you may deprive average men of sex and companionship in preference for some plate spinning sex God, but then what do you think will happen to those guys you've just rendered obsolete as mates? Do you think they'll be more than happy to support a welfare state that disproportionately benefit women and their bastard offspring, in these situations? The breakdown of the social contract bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 02:48 PM
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I think porn will be the primary sexual outlet of most average looking men then. Polygyny will be a thing among women who would want to share the minority of men who are attractive enough and have God tier sex abilities , and resentful sexless men will be an even more powerful force in politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 02:36 PM
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Because the times are changing and change is upsetting the status quo that used to benefit mediocre men. We are still figuring out what relationships and gender dynamics will look like in a post traditional monogamist world. There will be losers, there will be winners. Right now, the losers are just realising that they are losers and don't how to react. And society isn't helping these guys to adjust to their places in the sexual hierarchy. In places where there's long been a tradition of powerle…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 12:29 PM
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Capitalists are stroking racial tensions to distract the masses from the real injustices caused by unregulated free markets, corrupt oligarchs and unsustainable wealth inequality. They're also bankrolling the liberal feminist movement. The middle and lower classes are divided by gender, race, culture whilst the multi ethnic elite of the world have solidarity and recognise each other as fellow members of the capitalist class, the overseers of the unwashed proleteriat.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 12:04 PM
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Nah, it's a quarter of men are childless by the time they reach middle age. It'll probably be worse for millenials. That study was taken 7 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:33 AM
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Lol. A woman being a virgin would have been ok 30 years when it was apart of the norm in some communities, but now it is probably a red flag. It could mean she's incredibly low libido, which poses problems for men with any healthy amount of sexual apettite. It could also mean she's very picky. Or she's a sexual prude. It could also mean she is insecure about herself. Most men just want women who arent total sluts but arent virgins either, as it's considered a red flag if you aren't some ultra re…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 06:16 PM
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Nah, probably not. Cuckoldry has never not been a niche sexual strategy for some women and men, and nothing suggest that will change. I honestly think economic and sexual inequality will lead to secular based polygamy, whereby women will probably entertain the idea of sharing high status industrious Chads whilst the average American man is too impoverished to ever be a viable mate. And unlike cuckoldry, there's been year on year increase in the support of polygamy among secular non religious Ame…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 05:59 PM
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HA HA...HA HA HA...very funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 04:31 PM
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Agree that's she's hilarious or else she'll ban you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 04:29 PM
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Fair enough. These women seem pretty neurotic compared to the average gal so maybe that has something to do with it. I hope most women don't have too much reservation against their bfs porn habits, because let me tell you, everyone's doing it. It would be sad if a lot of women do feel intense insecurity about it, but aren't able to voice their feelings due to some urge to conform to some sex positive ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 03:38 PM
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WOW...That sub...is an eye opener. :/ Didn't realise some women get physically sick from the thought of their partners watching porn. Wew. I mean, if women were honest about the intense insecurity they feel from guys porn habits, most non low value men would probably quit or try to quit. But wow. I'm probably going to continue to lurk more. I won't comment because I might just trigger someones PTSD in that sub with my pro porn views.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 02:59 PM
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Women enjoy sex with particular individuals, but compared to men women have zero craving for sex, which is completely reflected in society. Is that why they're are as many women as there are men, willing to destroy their marriages and the psychological well bring of their partners and families by having an affair? Women do have sexual cravings, but it is proactive only for a minority of highly attractive men, unlike men, who have a far wider range of sexual attraction to women. In a date situati…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 08:28 AM
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Inconsistency rooted in a lack self awareness is a problem even decent women face, especially when it comes to these issues. But unfortunately, I think this sub tend to attract certain types of women who do tend to get off from seeing downtrodden men struggle with the hopelessness of their circumstance. I'm cynical enough to think that given her posting history, kandyapplez is most like the latter. A telling sign that someone argues or debates in good faith is that they're willing to concede a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 07:29 AM
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Lol. She's just another deluded narcissist who likes to pretend she cares whilst secretly getting off from the misery of low value men. Any man here who pays attention to these posters will know these women only reinforce the RP or dark PP narrative about female nature if you take account of their posting history and often contradictory opinions. Honestly, if these women wanna stop RP gaining recruits or furthering the RP narrative about women, they should just stop coming to this sub. They're o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 07:08 AM
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Lol. Just another deluded narcissist who likes to pretend she cares whilst getting off from the misery of low value men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 06:51 AM
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Most, but there's also a cohort of self reported trans men that seem to enjoy the confidence boost that testosterone gives you. But will attribute that to being treated more seriously as a man. I guess women who wish to be like men, when it comes to risk taking or confidence building should just get a shot of testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 06:44 AM
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We vary far more in personality than women. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3612964/ I think it's also why you see far more men who are subs and are attracted to to different types of femininity. Whilst the vast majority of women have a far more narrower range personalities and preferences in mates. ​ Or why we know men in our social groups groups who could be like the compete opposite of ourselves whilst women are more like a hive mind or at least succumb to conformity. Men are hyp…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 04:38 AM
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Yeah. I totally agree. Anyone can misuse it, including single men. But in my country, it is disproportionately single parents who seem to have developed financially dependency on government. Also, in my experience, men who come from households where social welfare dependency is the norm tend to also become dependant on social welfare themselves when they get older. These men don't see value in work because they didnt have parents who saw value in work either. Multi generational leaches are every…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 07:36 PM
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Lol. True
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 06:42 PM
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It's only rational to contribute your tax dollars to programs that have a a good ROI for the community and will lead to better outcomes for you and the community. Many have admitted that social welfare has enabled the irresponsible behaviours in people to go unchecked, like the various behaviours that contribute to single motherhood, and lax vetting of potential partners because you no longer have to suffer so dire conseqiences for choosing the kinds of men or women with obvious red flags. So in…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 06:32 PM
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Well that doesn't invalidate what he said. Women as a collective disproportionately benefit from the welfare state, whilst men are both net contributors and the demographic least likely to benefit from welfare. There's currently a transfer of wealth from middle-class and working class men to both middleclass abd working class women. A lot of women will end up using social welfare in one form or another in theur lives, especially if you're in one of those feminist socdem countries
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 06:16 PM
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Yes, but even the kind of non roided look they want to achieve is very hard to achieve going natty even if you give them 5 years. It's because getting that cut look destroys a lot of muscle mass and makes you look smaller, since these guys go through weeks of intermittent fasting after a year of bulking. Anyone who cuts and is natty will look significantly less bigger. It's all about maintaining as much dry muscle mass as you can. ironically, when you look cut, you're at your weakest despite loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 02:23 PM
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Well when it's a quarter of men and growing, then you have a problem. Looks, many things are natural. Like for instance, rape as a sexual strategy, child abandonment, oppression of the weak by the powerful, murder, coercion, spousal abandonment leading to abject poverty, polygamy etc. Why do you think we try to limit those things despite it being "all natutal", and even if it involves curtailing some freedoms? Because sometimes nature is barbaric and can lead to outcomes that are detrimental to …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 11:33 AM
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As you can understand, scientific journals from feminist states won't be admitting straight from the get go that women just happen to have children with men who already burdened with kids with multiple other womem because of some desire to procreate with "proven" men would be highly controversial and would get the researchers, whos a self identified feminist btw, cancelled. But the fact that research points to certain men being recycled, whilst men who are from the working classes, are less like…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 10:30 AM
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Lol...No. Women still crave a hierarchy to determine the most competent or genetically fit men. You'll just see a supercharged version of the Norwegian male childless crisis that is creating a class of unmarriageable men because women are recycling elite and attractive men because their expansive oil funded feminist social welfare state has made these men redundant as providers and enabled women to raise kids by themselves. Aka hypergamy in overdrive https://sciencenorway.no/childlessness-father…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 09:55 AM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 08:45 AM
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This has nothimg to do with OP. I get the impression from a lot of women here that penetrative sex isn't as pleasurable as it is for men and that they need clitoral stimulation to get off, which is the source of many sex rated problems since a lot of men still have hang ups against giving women oral it's the most common argument many women here cite as why many here don't enjoy sex as much as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 08:26 AM
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Yes, if you're willimg to have casual sex with those below your looksmatch or women you tend to have relationships with aka fattys. I think most men, despite the horndog stereotypes, do have standards, hence the complaints about the SMP and the focus on self improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 08:19 AM
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Depends on how attractive you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 08:13 AM
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But I thought most women can only properly get off from clitoral stimulation via cunnilingus?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 06:04 AM
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If youre not autistic, Its all about putting all those subtle hints men have been getting about female attraction and nature together and changing their behaviour to better appeal to womens primal desires. Unfortunatley, that could include behaving like a narcissistic arsehole and men have been thoroughly programmed at such a young age to be good little future egalitarians (it atleast Europe. Australia). Its about resisting social conditioning and hurting women and men sometimes and rejecting fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 05:47 AM
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Well according to some studies on dating platforms, steroid use and successful hookups has a very strong link. Seems like women like the roided look when going for casual relationships .
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 05:27 AM
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This should be top comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 04:52 AM
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Women prefer to date up then horizontal. Not my problem, and they can have their preferences and standards, even if it leads to them being long-term spinsters, but it would be nice if these women were honest instead of using shitty self serving excuses thatll only confuses men and deflect from the true reasons why they dont want to date these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 08:57 PM
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Nah, Ive known, a few "non insufferable' women, including my single mid 30s med sister, who uses the intimidation excuse to deflect from their own shallow preferences and turn it on men. Educated upper/umc women know that admitting that they don't find men in the lower income bracket as attractive would make them seem kind of shallow. They'd much rather lie to the men they're dating than admit that despite being well off, they expect their men to outearn them and they are waiting for that cute h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 03:18 PM
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My med sister actually agrees that women have insane standards, but according to her, they cant help it, because that urge is a product of evolution. In prehistoric times when births took place in the communal cave/hut, a dirty place could endanger the life of a full term pregnant woman, since a woman is incredibly vulnerable to pathogens when her water breaks. It's why pregnant women are known to spend copious amount of time cleaning their houses, even when their places are perfectly clean alre…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 02:40 PM
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Add being able to work part time when kids get involved and I'm sold. I already clean up my house quite well according to my sisters so it's not much a hard thing to do for me at least. Heck, I can cook better than my sisters and ex too. Household chores is something most functionial adults should be able do. Men who dont know how to clean up or cook have serious issues. If this is a serious issue, women should starting vetting men who can't or aren't able to do household chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 02:29 PM
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Don't wash your skin too much, your skin is overreacting to what is perceived to be a lack of moisture. My brother and sisters used to have acne problems, a doctor siggest bio oil. It worked really well for them . Also reduce stress. Acne is a problem is for both women and men, but I guess men can rely on height(If they're tall) or bodybuilding to overcome some facial flaws like acne.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 10:54 AM
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So what if she looked like a low value man? I'm sure the women she had dates with were well within her male personas looksmatch/relationship match or else they would have never agreed to the date.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 09:52 AM
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She's more masculine than lots men I know though. I'm sure she was dating according to her male personas looksmatch, or else she wouldn't have even gotten the date. Her lips are probably a dead giveaway(probably redder than usual from years of wearing lipstick), but other than that she looks like your typical mid thirties low test greek man I see here in my predom greek suburb. Other than the fact that she looks like a low value male with a bi side, I don't see anything too feminine looking abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 08:55 AM
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You couldn't be more wrong. This thread has become inundated by incels with a comical view of women. At least provide proper reasoning when you demonise women. This isnt an incel circlejerk subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 08:50 AM
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Maybe if you've gotten your sexual experience through just porn alone. But let me tell you as a straight man who has experimented once with men, their are major differences when it comes to sex with men and women. Women are softer, smell differently and behave differently in sex. The smell is probably the biggest give away tbh. If you like the smell of male sweat and pheromones, then you're probably gay or bi. If women tp you smell like tropical fruit that has just ripened, and it turns you on, …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 05:19 AM
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I think bi/lesbian women, are far less demanding of women that they are of men when it comes to relationships. There was a butch lesbian woman who famously pretended to be a man for about two years and wrote about her experiences in a book which was a NYT best seller. Her name was Norah Vincent, and according to her when she was a man, dating women felt far more like a job interview and the women she dated were far more hostile to her when she cosplayed as a man than when she was a self identifi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 04:39 AM
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Yah, a lot of gay guys I know are the embodiment of "work hard, and play hard". It probably helps that most don't have children, or when they do have kids, they're well into their careers and are approaching middle age
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 04:07 AM
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Lol.Apparently there's a problem of queer nepotism in my cousins law firm. Maybe in between the communal orgies and parties, gay guys are helping each other out in their professional careers?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 02:59 AM
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I don't think it's as one sided as you say it is, but according to gay and bi dudes I know, dating men seem far more easier and straight forward than dating girls. It's also far more egalitarian than most heterosexual relationships, and men are far more likely to be emotionally vulnerable to each other. There's less pressure on men to pigeonhole themselves to one gender role or to constantly perform to maintain respect and sexual access. I think it's why bi men are partly seen as undateable to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 02:02 AM
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Obligatory Michael Jackson eating popcorn
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 01:50 AM
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Well male status and value still tied to their job status. It is very understandable that marriages suffer when men aren't employed. Unlike women have intrinsic value, men must "do" to be of worth. It'll be interesting to see what happens to the divorce stats during the coronavurus pandemic. Especially if we compare the divorce rates of unemployed married men in countries with substantial welfare with a country where unemployed married men don't get a supplemtary income from the government.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 09:20 PM
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And I reject your premise that men devaluing women's work has anything to do with women choosing to work. But hey, you can keep up the victimhood narrative if you want to believe that women having their cake and eating it too or having the benefits of flexible roles that you can pick and choose when convenient is just another sign that women are being oppressed by the ebil men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 09:05 PM
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Well if women are really that conscience of some mens perceptions in validating the kind of work they do, then you might as well tell women an masse stop becoming admin/HR/Teachers/nurses/low level white collar workers and pick up a hammer and start doing blue collar or stem work since the same kind of guys who would badmouth housewives would also look down on female dominated work too. Most men who've taken care of children know that caretaker role may not be physically or intellectually demand…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 08:17 PM
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There's a difference between working in a meaningful job you enjoy, but which may not pay top dollar, and has fairly moderate working hours, to working in a bone crushing blue collar job or stressful and mind numbing white collar job that pays decently but which requires you to put 55 hours a week at minimum, and which leaves feeling numb by the end of the week. Many men, because of reasons discussed here, are stuck doing soul crushing work so they can be viewed as worthy mates by their partners…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 07:50 PM
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Lol. Are you guys so immersed in your victimhood porn that has populated much of our tv screens that you think the average man is some Mad Men character who has a 50s view of women? I've never seen a man badmouth housewives, even in places where decency goes out the window like the gym locker room. Most married men I know feel intense inadequacy by the fact that they're not making enough money to have their precious wives looking after their children and living suburban bliss that has become the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 07:37 PM
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Liberal Feminism was partly about maximising female choices and leverage over men whilst minimising mens power over women and their ability to mould relationships according their own needs. It was never about muh egalitarianism. Liberal feminists believe that women's self interest should hold priority in relationships and in society, and the decades spent breaking down female gender roles whilst only challenging mens role when Its advantageous to women has created this unequal state between men …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 07:22 PM
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Why do you think most men would want pity sex? If these men want validation from sex, wouldn't that turn pity sex into a non validating experience since the guy knows that the girl he's having pity sex with is not really attracted to him and is just doing it because she feels sorry for him? Pity sex is a turn off for most men who seek validation through sex. Escorts exist for those men who see sex as merely a physical need and not as a form validation or emotional connection. Most guys who arent…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 03:47 AM
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That's basically it. I cant understand why many in this thread think all what these men want is pity sex. I. going through problems for the last few years, which is making dating an order of magnitude more harder because of the performative masculine ideals that women enforce which is hard to fulfill when you're messed up and vulnerable. Do I want pity sex, no, that's a turn off and I wouldn't want to force women to do something they feel uncomfortable doing. Im sure most men who derive some val…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 03:09 AM
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If we are going to reduce this to social Darwinism, I guess women like yourself would be fine with embracing the same rationale towards women who make bad choices in their lives and use Tax payers money to pass on the buck to the state and perpetuate the cycle of dysfunction?. Hey, it's just survival of the fittest, if you can't live with your choices with the help of millions of productive tax payers, maybe all those women who end up with bastard spawns which constitute a large minority of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 01:33 AM
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Well even before those campaigns, which aired last year, most guys I knew werent going around randomly hollering at women in public or trying to hit on them. They were overreaction to a minority of men, mostly recent middle eastern and African immigrants, enjoyimg their new found sexual freedoms by trying to hit on and sleep with every girl they see in a club. Because we are PC obsessed most couldn't admit that the average guy doing all the aggro hollering and approaching, which were making lots…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 06:43 AM
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This is pretty much my older sister. Everyone she complain s about how men are creeps, she loves to bring up the few times some unattractive short dude hit on her at her workplace. At this points, I thinks its subtle bragging
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 06:35 AM
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Not in a work environment or in public. Melbourne is kinda like northern Europe when it comes to feminism dominating the conversation on inter gender dynamic and demonizing men who stray from the feminist script of how to interact with women. We are known as a super progressive city. Maybe other parts of Australia are different. If someone in Melbourne started randomly "hollering" at a girl in an aggressive macho mamner, like I've seen some African American men do when I was at NYC(which did lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 06:03 AM
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Melbourne, Australia. Clubbing is one of those situations where guys do chase women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 05:51 AM
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Lol. Then heterosexuality will be as dysfunctional as lesbian dating and relationships, where breakups are much more common, divorce rates are higher, and dating is excruciating because everyone is playing hard to get or is too passive to chase want they want. Just see how neurotic picky men behave in dating. Thank your lucky stars than men are the party that are more pro active and have a lower standard in dating or else humans would cease to exist within a few generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 05:19 AM
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I mean I know a lot of men like myself who do see most women as relationship or sexual prospect, but I never understood the constant groveling and attention some men shower women, even if they're super pretty. I think most men are aware enough that even if they're desperate, those kinds of behaviours are repulsive and shows a lack of self respect. And hell, we've gotten so much campaigns telling men that random attempts at flirting or hitting on women is disrespectful and disgusting that many me…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 04:38 AM
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I have alot of personal problems right now, mainly mental health, so I'm currently staying alone and building myself up before I start dating again. Ive had some bad experience with women when I naively believed that men should be allowed to be emotionally vulnerable and Ive learnt a tough lesson. It's hard but, it's something I have to do as a man. I cant be like my sister and enter relationships with the goal of being saved or something. Gotto build myself up or else the real world and dating …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 07:01 PM
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Well, that's what the average heterosexual man faces. I'm sorry that you've had a little peek into the lonely world of the average man. You get used to it eventually though. But on the other side: if you meet a woman you are interested in and she couldn't handle your weaknesses and she'd think of you as less attractive because you are yourself: would she be worth your time or shouldn't you be glad you dodged a bullet and now have the chance to find someone who takes you as you are? Problem is, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 06:34 PM
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Sure mate
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 06:24 PM
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Oh that's nice. But you have to understand, what your partner did was only rational. If lets say 80 percent of women have an instinctual disgust towards emotionally vulnerable men but won't admit it at first, whilst 20 percent are like you, do you think he would want to risk his chance of a relationship or maintaining his masculinity tokens and hence sexual attractiveness by betting that you might just be in the minority of women who aren't overwhelmed by disgust by the his momentary feelings of…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 06:16 PM
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Most people with options who are in long-term relationships where things just become stale do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 06:03 PM
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Well, it's a fictional movie about a simp who can't reconcile his idealised version of a girl, with the shallow reality. I mean, if you want to generalise, that's the problem a lot of men face. It's the fact that they idolize women and put them on a pedestal, when women are human too. But I'll be lying if I pretend that your subsequent complaints aren't a bit valid. Most women can't handle vulnerability or authenticity in men, that's something you're just going to.have to get used to . Women are…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 05:55 PM
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Emotional needs always trumps consumerist comforts. Heck sexual frustration or lack of physical affection and social alienation is known to cause a significant drop in life expectancy in people in the developing world which is why care homes hire people to connect with older people who don't have family, even if those care home provide those older people with all the food and comfort and distractions they need . The soul cant be fulfilled with just consumerist distractions. We have millions of y…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 05:15 PM
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Nothing, until society realises that it's a major problem once these men start to impact politics, society and culture in negative ways, and it's almost too late to dial things back. As you can see with the coronavirus emergency, even with experts telling the average Ameretard and the president to take it seriously or else face unimiginable economic carnage and death, it took Americans and the president months to realise this isn't you normal flu and that you need to stop doing your normal routi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 04:34 PM
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Alcoholism/drugs/violence/military adventurism have been used as escape for downtrodden men for thousands of years . Didn't stop them from tearing down the village when those distractions no longer helped them forget about the pitiless void in their souls
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 04:09 PM
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It'll never happen(fortunately), since mens only advantage over women which is physical strength has been far weakened by advances in technology. It'll dissolve into a sizeable proportion of men channelling their sexual frustration and atomization into extremist politics. White nationalism/eco fascism, maybe a war or two. Society will do what they must to release the valve. And that usually means men dying. I don't see anything good coming out of this for society or men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 04:07 PM
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Yah. It won't be an incel revolution as many feminists and mgtowers love to imagine, but it'll be like Japan, but a bit more worse. This undercurrent of social dissatisfaction will make its way into politics sooner or later, where the generation of atomised men who felt like when it came to something as important as opposite sex affection and relationships, they were denied in their youths and no one cared they were missing out or that there's serious problems with the way we interact with each …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/20 03:35 PM
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Sometimes, I think at least half of the self confessed blue pillars are living in bizarro reality where it’s opposite world. Blue pillers are pretty much gaslighting folks here about heightism and the difficulty men face in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 11:24 AM
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yah, why do you think steroid use is booming and so many women are complaining about the hunks they fuck being not able to reach full erection(because steroid use does fuck with your sexual organs, moreso than porn). You gotta pump those steroids to get those women wet if youre a manlet my man. But your performance may suffer
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 03:04 AM
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As ive said, women choose those types of irresponsible men. Women are more likely to have unprotected sex with those men. Lots of women will try to use children to secure commitment with these guys. Hence, partly why single motherhood is still so rampant in the areas of the world with great abortion rights and comprehensive planned parenthood programs. Women here, admit that they enjoy the extra sexual power they have over average men, but women will also have to embrace some of the power and re…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 02:51 AM
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Considering the massive increase in welfare spending in my country, on single mothers year on year, Im guessing that this isnt nearly enough to get a lot of women access to their fuckbois or ex partners pay checks. Either way, men like me are going to become tax serfs partly because of this boom in single motherhood and the rise of state feminism in politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 01:35 AM
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Its a lot more difficult to get child support when you dont have documents and a legal paper trail indicating that you were in a longterm relationship wit the man. I dont know how things are done in the US, but I know from personal experience by having a few cousins go down that route that it is very difficult and almost pointless to lodge child support claims when youre not married and dont have sufficent evidence of longterm co habitation.Its also a problem that these types of these relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 01:20 AM
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Child support is only possible after a man says his marriage vows. Chad knows better than to get married, and shift the power balance towards women. Yet women still wanna have risky legally precarious unions with these guys, despite exposing themselves to risk of becoming a single mother with no legal protection and assured claims to these guys incomes. Theyd much rather risk it all, for a chance to be with these guys. Which is partly why marriage rates are tanking whilst women are increasingly …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 12:58 AM
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Except Women are less likely to want to use condoms for attractive high status men. https://www.ctvnews.ca/lifestyle/women-are-less-likely-to-care-about-condoms-with-attractive-men-study-1.4435103 Women also have an abundance of options when it comes to eliminating their pregnancies here. But most here still wanna have Chads kid if it means increasing their chance of coercing chad to commit to them in these unstable relationships. As many in this thread admit, women have disproportionate power i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/20 12:52 AM
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Take ownership of the sexual and relationship choices you make. In my neighbourhood, theres a huge problem of single mothers because so many women I know seem interested in fuckbois who dont commit because they have an abundance of choice. Now a lot of these women are becoming quite vocal about welfare reform, because they want the government to take care of the financial consequences of their choices. With the way single motherhood is popularised and the rise of state feminism, Im going to even…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 04:53 PM
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Most liberal western states will end up like Norway, where longterm monogamy will be replaced by serial monogamy and polygyny, where women will have "their turn" with a minority of high status men , whilst lower status men wont be able to have longterm partners and will slowly be eliminated from the gene pool. https://sciencenorway.no/childlessness-fathers-forskningno/a-quarter-of-norwegian-men-never-father-children/1401047
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/20 04:44 PM
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This is the hundredth thread on this issue. Ive seen both good arguments and evidence from the OLD/hypergamy blaming and the social isolation/male blaming crowds. But I dont think we will know for sure what is causing the rise in male sexlessness or what is the main culprit, until we have an extensive in depth study on the sexual lifestyle of the average person under 30. Unfortunately, this issue is considered very political and controversial to a lot of powerful feminists, so that wont happen i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 04:11 PM
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Maybe in Europe and North America, where they have a problem securing their borders, but in Australia we dont really have a significant trafficking problem because we control our borders and we have an effective police force that deals with these types of crimes. If we had a problem with sex trafficking, the rabid institutionally powerful feminists and their multi million dollar organisations would have changed the laws, since Australia is a prime example of a feminist nanny state. Most of the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 04:00 PM
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Sure, whateva pal. They couldnt even find a control group of men who didnt watch porn a decade ago, when they tried to study the effects of porn. Porn is here forever, learn to live with it in moderation so you dont end up abusing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 03:24 PM
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Which is the fault of sex negative feminists and tradcons refusing to legalise sex work. In Australia, where we have adequate rights and protections for sex workers, prostitutes dont usually have those issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 03:17 PM
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You can say that about many things women coerce men to do that may not bring about enjoyment for men, but it is understood to be the price payed to be with a woman since most successful relationships are largely transactional. Youre just not thinking about the pov of the average guy. Hes used to being used and treated as utility by women, so hes fine treating escorts the same. He doesnt see that as particularly damaging, since in countries with adequate protection and rights for sex workers, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 03:09 PM
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This. My rich uncle frequent prostitutes, and he actually payed a high end escort to take me and my brothers viriginity when I was 16. At the time, I thought it was shameful and sign of low value, but he told me that this was how most of the men in our family had our virginity taken and to gain some experience before pursuing women, who would be far more judgmental about inexperienced guys who may not know how things work during real sex. Its also a great confidence booster. Most men I know all …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 03:01 PM
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Thats basically the gist of the problem here. I dont buy the ED scaremongering. Ive had what many anti porn PPD women consider to be porn induced "ED" and that was simply solved when I improved myself and upgraded my partner and was actually turned on by her, and not just cling onto to easy homely lookign women who were assured stable partners but had hygiene issues or were overweight. Women who compalin about porn are just resentful of the fact that undesirable men suffer from the same issue of…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 12:59 PM
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Except most guys watch porn and we are still fucking fine. Seems like a minority of guys who overdo the porn and the death grip, and are suffering the consequences are trying to paint men with a broad brush so they can feel better about their inability to moderate their habit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 12:52 PM
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lol. Porn may be responsible for ED and women may have some reason to dislike men who have a porn habit(Personally I suspect death grip is far more responsible). But what a lot of purple pill women dont realise is that porn is the reason many women can partake in a exclusionary hookup culture that denies lots of men from having sex and stable partners. Without porn, and the adult entertainment industry, youll see a lot of sexually repressed young guys do stupid things like support regressive pol…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/20 12:42 PM
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I just hope the legal system catches up with this enlightened post tradcon philosophy. She doesn’t own your assets, he doesn’t own her body. Everyone can do whatever they want with their bodies and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/20 06:58 AM
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As a late millennial who knows a few bi guys in relationships with women, it really depends on whether bi guys are willing to only fulfill their dominant or non submissive role in relationships. Most bi guys I’ve had conversations with about sex and relationships have told me that they usually only get their sub fix when they’re in relationships with men. There is a few outliers, but not enough to make me think that bi guys who are in relationships with women are allowed to explore their sub sid…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 07:10 AM
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As a man who’s into femdom and sexually dominant women but must keep those urges and sexual preferences repressed in order to not end up as a sexually frustrated FA, this is probably the truth. Liberal western Women, as much as they endorse LGBT movements or womens right to fulfil alternative gender roles aren’t so enlightened when it comes to accepting alternative male gender and sexual roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/20 07:06 AM
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But things you’re exceptional at might not be the things that give you an edge in dating. And those interests, hobbies or career goals that are attractive to the opposite sex are a lot harder to achieve exceptional status since a sizeable proportion of men are also seeking to outcompete others to become part of the desirable exceptional men women wanna procreate with by improving themselves in those areas and interest. It’s just inevitable that a hierarchy will arise which will render the vast m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 05:44 AM
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MGTOW in itself is a great philosophy for guys who don’t want to be dependant on women for their purpose or happiness, but the political side of that subculture is pretty delusional if they think MGTOW is going to change the gender dynamics of dating and relationships. The fact is, most politically active MGTOWs can never change male disposability. A few men is all that’s needed to impregnate a couple of hundred of women. Even if healthy men decide to overpower their needs to fuck anything that …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 05:27 AM
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Most people are classified as mediocre though. That’s like saying the way to solve wealth inequality is to not be poor or middle class. It’s not a great advice to the average guy. Someone got to be mediocre to make the exceptional people noticeable. That happens to be a large chunk of the population
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 05:12 AM
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I’m talking about relationships, not just sex. I’ve been noticing a trend of women being fine with being alone and not being in relationships for long periods of times until the right man comes along. I’ve also been noticing lots of women staying single for years due to having high standards and even as they reach their late 30s and early 40s, they’re perfectly fine being alone than lowering their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/20 05:06 AM
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Lol. I’ve lost count on how many times women have told me to choke them whilst pinning them down for sex, even when I felt disgusted doing it. Yet when I want them to just take control and make me feel desired and go full dom , I’m either creepy or unmanly. Kinda sucks being a man with a sub side. Women are the only ones who are allowed to have adventurous non conforming sexual kinks, if your a man who wants to get sat on and mildly degraded or thigh crushed by a Succubus, you’re not a man. Make…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/20 08:22 PM
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Most men have enough social awareness to know that a mans attractiveness is important in relationships with women. But I think what most non autistic men who complain about this feeling of being deceived by society feel more aggrieved about how no one really told young guys how brutal the sexual market can be for the average man and the massive amount of power young women have in dating. Most men have this impression that dating and casual sex would be as easy for them as it would be for the ave…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/20 05:29 PM
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Ill elaborate..if society or the youth valued traditional monogamy, in other words if there were less plate spinning, polyamory, multiple fwb...and people just tried to find someone exclusive to have sex and relationships with, I think more women wouldn’t have overinflated perceived relationships values of themselves. They would realise that the average guys they despise sexually but could only get commitment from are their true looksmatch and they would eventually find something attractive abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 03:52 PM
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You mean traditional monogamy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 03:31 PM
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I’ve got friends who used to live in some trad socialist Latin American country, before he migrated here for work, and apparently, even he, a fairly attractive secular non traditionalist guy can’t stand western dating, and is so traumatised by his experience and how transactional and demanding it is that now wants to marry some Christian girl from his village who used to have a relationship with. I’m telling you, how things are is not sustainable. Women are exploiting this free market, but event…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/20 03:28 PM
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Well even if you do, you guys should stop going raw for attractive fellas or Chads who tend to be human Petri dishes for STDs. https://www.ctvnews.ca/lifestyle/women-are-less-likely-to-care-about-condoms-with-attractive-men-study-1.4435103 Far more women than men are having sex on a weekly basis as the sexlessness statistics provided by the Washington post are anything to go by , so I hope that is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 06:11 PM
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I agree. I kinda wished there was a dating app where the only rules of joining is that you have to display proof of being STD free.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 01:27 PM
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Average height has been increasing every decade,yet the 5 foot 10 guy with pretty face who would have had a chance in the 60s is now an incel if he isnt compensating in other ways. A guy would have been a catch in the 30s if he was not an alcoholic and had enough money to buy a few loafs of bread, and some salami to eat and rent a shoddy apartment. Yet today, that guy is rightfully considered a deadbeat. In the old country, where nutrition was limited by the availability of food, women were slim…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 01:25 PM
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The problem is, the one sexual activity that most women require of men to get off or orgasm(cunnilingus/oral) is a great transmitter of STDs. I got a few strains of hpv by just giving oral to my exes. And I always wear a condom, and Ive only had 5 sexual partners. Lots of Women need to stop going raw for diseased infested Chads and get tested frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 01:16 PM
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As a guy who watches porn once every few day, I find lesbian domination with good acting and storyline’s very hawt yet I find guys dominating and hurting girls a huge turn off. Maybe I’ve just internalised a lot of false assumptions about how men are more damaging than women psychologically and physically. I don’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 08:23 AM
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It isn’t an ideal since the ideal is every woman getting a high powered Alpha Male, but it is preferable than to partner with mediocre men who can’t even perform their performative masculine roles as primary breadwinners due to gender equality minimising the income inequality gap. Scandinavian women seem to be ok with rejecting low status men for welfare and sharing high status Chads. When gender equality and the expansion of the welfare destroys the beta male value proposition, the rest of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 04:29 PM
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Maybe this would be the case 50 years ago, but today, with automation making so many male jobs redundant and the expansion of the welfare state rendering them even more disposable to women, beta males won’t be missed. Women who are setting the status quo are very calculating. They aren’t going to sexually exclude these men until they no longer serve a purpose or they have become usurped by technological advancements and progressive government policies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 04:21 PM
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I think women are great at self delusion and choose to ignore pretty obvious red flags if the man their with is attractive enough, which might even include keeping a side chick for many girls I know who complain about this problem. The problem is that tolerance does get whittled away by years of broken promises and manipulation. These women might think they can change them, but in the end these men don’t want to change. These are the Chads Men here talking about, who get away with a lot of shotb…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 02:01 PM
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I think most fiction didn’t elude to the extent women would reject average but decent guys for the Chads of the fairytale world. We didn’t have an interpretation of fairytales where Cinderella had to compete with Stacy and Christina’s for the Prince Affection , whilst Prince Charming was spinning plates and had none of the nice Christian values and traits that most of society preaching to young men who wanted to have a relationship . Lookism was always eluded to, but it wasn’t the be all orbend …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 07:27 AM
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The Trump can’t stop the economic and technological forces which is relentlessly marching towards making most men redundant. Automation and the AI revolution will happen and will disproportionately affect working class and low status men. Eventually, the US will require a comprehensive welfare state to deal with the tens of millions of people out of work due to new efficiency gains. Outsourcing has already diminished the working class mans resolve and status in America and in the dating world, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 06:36 AM
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Perhaps in America, but in the rest of the west where there’s a move towards a more comprehensive single mother centric welfare state, current trends suggest otherwise. The example in Norway and in Sweden, their feminist welfare state and acceptance of progressive forms of non monogamous relationships among women has pretty much destroyed the working class and unattractive men chances of having a family and a committed wife whilst middle class and working class women are increasingly recycling a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/20 06:16 AM
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Well there’s a ton of studies that shows that stable fulfilling longterm marriages are increasingly only possible for UMC guys. If you’re working class or even middle class, relationships are far more sketchy and less stable than previously and most aren’t leading to longterm marriages. With the shrinking number of men out earning women or even earning a decent wage, more women are being forced to branch swing more frequently to get what they want. Men are either starvin out there or playing a b…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/19 06:49 AM
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Lol. Nope. People change. Your current partner may seem like she/he is your soulmate today, but tomorrow or 2030, they could be different people who may want different things from different partners. Soul mates crap is largely built on hopes and desires of someone too invested in traditional monogamy to realise the truth that we have millions of people who are compatible with them. The gays know what’s up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 08:14 PM
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Getting drunk with my uncle at a beach
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 08:04 PM
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Maybe. But I doubt it is when lots of guys notice the same thing. It’s a generalisation, and there are exceptions but it is largely true.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 07:56 PM
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Well not in my experience. They probably do exist but I guess they’re taken before they turn 21. A pretty girl with a great personality is hard to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 07:47 PM
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Not really friends, more like colleagues who became apart of my study groups at uni , I was doing law a few years ago before a bailed out. I wrote about it a few weeks ago here. Law at my alma mata was very female dominated.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 07:43 PM
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Have you spoken to these human dolls? They’ have the personalities of cardboard. Honestly, sometimes being incredibly attractive is a curse for a lot of women. I’ve had lots of female friends who were model tier, and I knew a pretty Persian chick who looked just like that girl and she’s doing Law now. But aside from fantasising about kissing their pretty faces, and getting their foundation in my eye, they’re rarely offer anything else. They’re not interesting and because they have guys do everyt…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 05:59 PM
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There’s long been a link between gender equal marriages/egalitarianism and less sex. Traditional couples have far more sex than egalitarian couoles. https://marriageresourcecentre.org/egalitarian-marriage-and-sexual-frequency/ https://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/09/magazine/does-a-more-equal-marriage-mean-less-sex.html It’s an interesting topic. But I haven’t been in a marriage or longterm relationship to have a POV on this issue. But it is a thing according to some of my married older friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 11:13 AM
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No, I’m too vulnerable and damaged for most women, and I’ve been ghosted a few times when I couldn’t hide my despair in a relationship when the depression and melancholy got worse. I’ll stick to medium and short term relationships during the good times when I’m not depressive and I’m social and funny and resign to lonely solitude and self improvement when I’m on a downward spiral. I don’t think I’d be right for someone like me to waste some girl best years only for me or them to bailout when I b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 10:48 AM
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Yep, rich feminist welfare state like Norway are undergoing rapid beta culling. A quarter of men by the time they reach middle age never father children. It’ll be probably be a lot higher for millennial men. https://sciencenorway.no/childlessness-fathers-forskningno/a-quarter-of-norwegian-men-never-father-children/1401047 Turns out when you give women agency and a way to financially support themselves without a beta male husband via social welfare and single mother friendly work place policies, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/19 04:09 AM
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Lol. Women don’t want bi guys because they know they can’t leverage sex to control them because there’s a Grindr text away from getting his needs met. Gay men don’t want bi guys because they’re too insecure about their inability to propagate themselves and know bi guys will eventually turn to women to have a family. It’s almost like Bi guys reveal both women’s and gay men’s respective complexes about their own worth. Instead of dealing with their complexes and insecurities, they just hate on bi …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 05:58 PM
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Lol. OP welcome to our hell world. Most guys I know intimately are like this. We secretly tell ourselves we want to always be competitive, be the invulnerable super agents, the dominators, yet a lot of us are miserable, constantly anxious and insecure to prove ourselves . Women and society train us to be like that, and when they see the consequences of their cut throat preferences and expectations, they label it toxic masculinity and blame men for the toxic expectations society and women set up …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/19 04:58 PM
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You’re moving goal posts. I’m not crying about the inequities of the SMP, just that it’s understandable that guys feel deceived by society and those around them for giving them an impression of adulthood and relationships which had become outdated by the time they reached young adulthood. The main problem I have is that polite society is still failing to recognise this change in both power balance and sexual norms , and giving average guys wrong advice about dating. Young men should adapt to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 08:16 AM
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Lol. I was raised by a single mother, and was abused by several of her partners. She never protected me. And many guys who come from single mother homes have the same story of passive single mothers either failing to protect their children or smothering them so we don’t develop the skills to face the world. Experiences of children in Single mother homes debunks your OP. I’d imagine in a pre welfare state/industrial society, where protection of men aren’t taken for granted, children like me, born…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 07:45 AM
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I think many blue pillers here are misrepresenting the main argument of non autistic guys here who complain about society lying to them. I’m not an incel, yet as a young guy, I felt lied to when it comes to the SMP and the massive amount of effort guys most make and the luck you must have in having the traits to succeed in the SMP in stark contrast to the average woman who are able to have casual sex at ease. Most men have enough social awareness to know that a mans attractiveness is important i…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/19 07:09 AM
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I think you’re talking about a subset of immature, desperate and inexperienced guys haven’t had many relationships to discern the difference. I think anyone who’ve been around those bimbos wouldn’t find themselves in love with them but they would still lust after them. I’ve been infatuated with girls who are incredibly attractive when I was young without getting to know them well, and yet when I truly got to know them, my view of them changed dramatically from the perfect picture of them I creat…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 01:56 PM
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That was my first gf. Of course I’d be bad at sex at the age of 17. If that was the case, she should have at least helped me out a little. Guys don’t come with an internal knowledge of having great sex ability. It takes time and practice to get good at it. She wasn’t a virgin and was far more experienced that I was at the time(She already has 5 partners by 17, I was a virgin). A lot of Women don’t know how to communicate to their partners during sex and just expect a lot of guys to figure it out…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 10:09 AM
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I think the longest dick in the world was like 11 inches, and it belonged to some guy who couldn’t even functionally use his log to the fullest since you’d need quite a cardiovascular system to have it fully erect and hard. Anything above 9 is like 1 in a million. And I’ve definitely seen my share of shock pornos where the guy seems to have a penis that just looks unnaturally big. It definitely makes sense that they’re using prosthetics. To find an attractive man with a large penis is pretty har…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 08:29 AM
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Tons of women I know who succumbed to addiction eventually turned to prostitution to fund their habits. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a correlation between the rise of prostitution in certain area and drug use.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 07:49 AM
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I was desperate for a gf back then. I was very insecure about myself and I saw having a partner as validation of my masculinity, which meant that I tolerated a lot of entitled shitty behaviour. But now, I’m alright being alone if it means not dealing with girls who are entitled or aren’t going to meet my emotional and sexual needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 06:06 AM
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Yep, I don’t even like oral anymore because my girth is huge, and most girls grind their teeth on my dick which hurts. The only girl I’ve been with who knew how to do proper oral on me was a pretty experienced prostitute who gave me the oral of a lifetime. I actually felt like my cock was about to explode at the end of that session, I didn’t know how great oral sex can be before that . She’s on my speed dial for that reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 06:02 AM
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Well fucking a starfish doesn’t get me off. It’s actually a hard turn off for me to the point where my dick gets limp if she just lays there. It either means she’s only sexually inclined to be incredibly passive or she’s not interested in sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 05:58 AM
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Well I hope your equally putting effort to improving your anal licking/rimming , scrotum tickling, nipple licking, subtle dominant-submissive behavioural shifts, kissing, licking neck, torso gyrating, torso kissing, touching, massaging, dirty talking skills? Most women I’ve been with didn’t put as much effort to my pleasure as I did for them, which is quite common for women who always assume the passive role in sex. Which is why until I meet that special person and get out if my rut, no way am I…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 05:43 AM
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I can only put that much effort in if the girl is top notch beautiful, with a nice smell, and a god tier body or is receptive to my needs. Even if I try to be the best I can, no way am I going to commit that much effort to a girl that’ll just take the easier passive role in sex. She’s gonna have to do some kinky shit for me if she wants me to do all that. You only get what you put in. That’s just too much effort and stress for the average passive chick or starfisher.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 05:25 AM
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Interestingly enough, my length is probably within your range of comfort( 7.1 inches)yet it’s my girth which really gets commented on(6 inches). Does the thickness of penises mean much to you? How much thickness is too much?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/19 05:14 AM
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I never said skinny. I have a little fat, but other than my overdeveloped calves, I have an average body.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 02:57 PM
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I run 10 miles a day for depression and anxiety. Going to a gym only heightens my anxiety(encloses space with lots of people is a major stressor) . I’ll probably will start lifting once I have my anxiety under control.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 02:54 PM
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Are penis size even that important, above a certain threshold? When I was younger, I thought that the mere fact that I was big according to my gf meant that I was automatically good at sex or pleasing Women. But according to her, her 5 incher first bf gave her the best orgasm, and he was really skilled at using those 5 inches and his fingers and his mouth. I think height queens are far more of a problem for guys than size benis queens. That ex had a habit of bringing up how much taller her Ex wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 01:37 PM
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So you’re UMC. That makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 08:29 AM
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I think it’s a regional thing. I live in the top 5 tallest places in the world for male height. So around my friends, I feel below average and I’ve even been told by some girls that Im short compared to their ex boyfriends. Where I live is also pretty notorious for steroid use and bodybuilding. I think Lookism is very intense in highly developed countries with above average height , Like Australia and Northern Europe. 1 in 4 guys under 30 lifts around my circles. Skinny guys under 6 foot are the…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 08:09 AM
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Are you tall? This seems to only work if youre a tall dude. I’m like only 6 foot, so Perhaps shorter and average guys need hit the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/19 07:47 AM
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Yep, experienced this “masculinity deficit” affecting my dating life ever since I got diagnosed with clinical depression and anxiety due to shitty childhood. Fellas, if you’re going through depression, take a break from relationships and women in general, they will rarely understand what you’re going through and they will hold your inability to hide your cracks against you. Don’t listen to anyone who tells you to “open up” to your partner. Also, don’t believe in emotional reciprocity when it com…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/19 06:48 AM
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I don’t subscribe to the 80/20 rule or the recently revised 95/5 rule. But I do think women looking for casual sex tend to have fwb and casual partners that are generally far more attractive than the guys they have longterm LTRs with. Women date up in looks when they have casual sex, and date down in looks relative to their SMV when prioritising for stable LTR but then prioritise other things like financial status in their mates. This is just a generalisation of the dating lives of women I know,…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 02:28 PM
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Lol. Are you actually serious? Do you really think your right to perv “cosplayers” is a legitimate purple pill issue? Go back to 8chan mate. This sounds like incel zoomer problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 01:41 PM
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Most men have enough social awareness to know that a mans attractiveness is important in relationships with women. But I think what most non autistic men who complain about this feeling of being deceived by society are far more focused on is how no one really told young guys how brutal the sexual market can be for the average man. Most men have this impression that dating and casual sex would be as easy for them as it would be for the average woman, and that we would have easy casual sex with ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 01:04 PM
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I didn’t say Chad, but men with options that don’t commit. I generally subscribe to the Chad trope, but I do believe that women tend to have casual sex with guys who they cannot have longterm stable relationships with. Guys who are a few points above them in the SMV, and who wouldn’t be considered relationship material for these men but who are above the threshold of fuckability. This could be a situation where a 5 only has casual sex with 6s and over, 7s have casual sex with 8s and over etc. Wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 12:18 PM
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My friends,family,lover failed me in my worse days. So Ive rejected them and I’m trying to find new friends and family. I’m going to have a few tough years ahead of me , but hopefully I’ll find better people to connect with eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 07:04 AM
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That’s a less nuanced take on the issue that only makes it seem like the average man who complains about this is an idiot. The reality is more like the average RP or even purple pill guy feeling disaffected by the fact that the average women do employ duel dating strategies, where the first half of their youth is primarily devoted to having casual sex with guys who so above their relationship leagues that they don’t commit for years , and perhaps in between serious relationships whilst going bac…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/19 06:33 AM
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Yeah, I totally agree with that. Which is why I say that men should go back to the old times of using male friends fir emotional bonding and women just for sex and babies. Because that’s the only thing you’re good for. Because clearly to a lot of women, relationships are purely transactional and you’re intent on trapping men to their gender expectations when it comes to emotional vulnerability despite muh empowerment. If I have to depend on other men for a lot of my emotional needs, whilst you i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/19 05:12 PM
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They also have higher rates of depression than men. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4478054/ If women are so much better than men in managing mental conditions, they shouldn’t experience higher rates of these mental disorders Men are over represented at both the extreme ends of the personality and IQ spectrum. More men do commit violent crimes, but there are more Men who are also heroes/Nobel prize winners/Entrepreneurs . Men who are criminals are more likely to hurt other innocent …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 02:48 PM
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More women than men suffer from anxiety https://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2016/06/07/anxiety-is-twice-as-common-in-women-as-men-study-finds/ Fewer women than men fall victim to violence https://www.cbs.nl/en-gb/news/2018/51/fewer-women-than-men-fall-victim-to-violence Both women and men would prefer to help women in dire situations than men. https://www.newstatesman.com/2016/06/are-you-more-likely-put-yourself-risk-help-woman-help-man
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 02:09 PM
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I think many young women are narcissists tbh. All my relationships ended when I started feeling the cracks open and my weakness was getting obvious to see. My experience with women hasn’t been that great. I think I go low value mode when I get really depressed. I stop being the funny, charming guy and my partners can see that I have a change in behaviour. Then the ghosting happens when things didn’t change for weeks. I try to be myself, but it was obvious I had problems. Even faking it didn’t wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 01:40 PM
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Hahahahaha. Your actually serious. Your feminist indoctrination and your lack of relationship experience is showing. Unless you’re dating UMC guys, most men are seeing their standard of living drop. And we have far more financial responsibilities and expectations than women in our socioeconomic class. Women expect us to have our “shit together” too when it comes to finances, so spending a 120 dollars a week on counseling when you only have limited money to spend after taxes on essentials and hom…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 01:19 PM
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Most men can’t afford therapy with all that household and student loan debt. I’m fortunate to afford one and even then it isn’t a silver bullet. Guys who have problems still need support and empathy from their partners. Not a big thing to demand that women just treat their partners as how men would treat their SO when they’re suffering. Successfully Healing from mental health problems is rarely a solitary experience. Some guys, like myself aren’t fortunate to have close enough friends to divulge…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 12:54 PM
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Mate, I’ve gone counselling half of my life, it’s not a silver Bullet. Sometimes to have a partner that understands what you’re going through and to reassure you from time to time is great. Someone who isn’t going to judge you when your down in the gutter too. I don’t expect women to fix men, but I do think it’s great if women were just a bit more understanding and compassionate towards men, and would ease up on the pressure on men to perform all the time. It isn’t rocket science. Make your man …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 12:45 PM
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A lotta men do find good, trustworthy friends to talk to. But those who don’t do suffer the consequences. Many do kill themselves through alcohol addiction, drugs or suicide. So what’s the solution for these guys ? More men opening up to women and learning the truth of how dependant a female attraction towards man is to what extent they can repress themselves and how much they can bear to subject themselves to traditional gender roles and expectations? Women aren’t giving these guys a lot of spa…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/19 11:28 AM
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Dude, I had a classmate who killed himself when he told his gf that he has depression and she ghosted him in his final year . I have a sister who is bipolar and she refused to commit to her FWB who wanted a relationship, because he admitted he was depressed. Women say one thing about how men should be vulnerable and open, and behave like something else. Women want you to fix their shit, not the other way around, unless those problems insinuate that you have violent dark triad traits that tickles…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/19 12:05 PM
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Your post remind me of this post about why some bisexual men prefer relationships with men rather than women. I believe there will definitely be a a lot of straight guys going to the other side if scientists do find the gay gene. What man wouldnt mind tons of sex and emotional support/non judgement from their partners? In the future, Women can share natural Alphas and the many men who arent naturally dominant and hate fulfilling gendered expectations can have relationships with other men. Its th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/19 07:31 AM
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But they don’t have crime waves generated by the breakdown of homes like in the UK or the US. They may have shitty ethnocentric racist policies in regards to muslims and tibetans, but they know the reality of subsidising the shitty choices of both men and women will just create a vicious cycle and behaviourial sink that increases the occurrences of these socially destructive and fiscally costly behaviour. When the west no longer has the wealth or political capital to kick the can further down th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 11:17 PM
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But women who fail to lock down a reliable partner shouldn’t feel entitled to my Tax dollars, and learn how to live with the consequences. As you say Darwin’s rule. No one here thinks men are entitled to women’s bodies, just that women shouldn’t feel entitled to men’s paychecks. But I guess actually successful redpillers like yourselves, share one thing with blue pilled women in that you want to outsource the consequences of your destructive sexual behaviour to society, rather than deal with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 10:20 PM
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Lol. Then let’s destroy the welfare state considering men put in more tax dollars than they get in services in most civilised western countries , whilst vulnerable women are net benefactors. . Or let’s get women to the draft. Let’s equalise government spending between male and female issues because men shouldn’t give a shit about women. Let’s not pretend men aren’t pressured in every election cycle to vote for policies that primarily benefit women that seems to the cornerstone of most social dem…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/19 09:54 PM
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I don’t think you’ve read the OP. Women aren’t attracted to egalitarian men who aren’t willing to espouse performative masculine ideals. Even those progressive women who’ve successfully liberated themselves from traditional female gender roles want men who are masculine and be able to outearn them. Most women want men who fulfill some male gender roles and I have enough links to studies and accumulated anecdotal experiences to know that. We aren’t talking your typical have your cake and eat it t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 03:21 AM
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I don’t think you’ve read the OP. Women aren’t attracted to egalitarian men who aren’t willing to espouse performative masculine ideals. Even those progressive women who’ve successfully liberated themselves from traditional female gender roles want men who are masculine and be able to outearn them. Most women want men who fulfill some male gender roles and I have enough links to studies and accumulated anecdotal experiences to know that. We aren’t talking your typical have your cake and eat it t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 03:12 AM
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Then why continue having casual sexual and going on tinder? Just get a reliable fwb or a relationship if this is how the vast majority of women work. Tinder and other casual sex apps shouldn’t exist if women find no enjoyment in most of these encounters
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 02:47 AM
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Well, they’re not suffering in the sex department, considering those crazy sex parties in Silicon Valley are just getting wilder if the stories are true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 02:35 AM
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I’m just saying, you shouldnt be comparing sexual orgasm success by the amount of female orgasms had compared to men. As they say, Quality over quantity. Perhaps a better yardstick would be if we compared amount of serotonin released during sex. Me jerking off is a totally different intensity than me cumming during sexual. If they were the same, most incels wouldn’t complaining about the lack of sexual experiences. The same applies to men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 02:23 AM
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But Your also wrongly equating the male orgasm to the female orgasm. As someone who enjoys a bit of prostrate play,which is the closest thing to what a man can experience to the female orgasm, prostrate orgasm are harder to achieve, but when the stars align and you achieve your Big O, they’re mind blowing compared to ejaculation. And even then, considering that women have twice the sexual nerves than men and an organ devoted to just sexual pleasure, A female orgasm is probably far more intense t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 01:51 AM
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Tell that to women dating all these men who pump and dump women and have absolute no respect for them that they’ve helped create a single mother crisis in the western world. Face it, women are just as shallow as men, and when it comes to a certain type of man who fills all those shallow criteria, women are able to ignore most problematic traits. Women have rarely used morality as a guiding tool in their sexual and relationship endeavours. Women will continue dating misogynists if they are ripped…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/19 01:29 AM
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Nah..Maybe its no longer the centre point of outrage for the progressive media, but male online culture is still steeped in the ideological haze of RP doctrine. RP concepts are also pretty Mainstream now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 11:21 AM
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But men need women more than women need men, as you know. MGTOWers like to pretend not playing the game is viable lifestyle choice, but look at all the leftover older single men who end up killing themselves through alcohol or drugs because they realise they lack meaning and purpose in their lives? Men will need to make do with unequal gender contracts and appease women if they want to have a chance to lead fulfilling lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 11:09 AM
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I think women will eventually have an interest in turning things around, and society will listen. Many women now admit that feminists were wrong and that they want strong attractive dominant men for partners, not these new generation sensitive types that either don’t know how to take control or are just overgrown children who can’t fill their roles as men. Not every woman wants to partake in polyamory with the guys who naturally get it. They also want men who are providers who outearn them so th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 10:59 AM
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I think society will start to become more honest to men about the true flexibility of their gender roles and egalitarianism will deal a death blow for the vast majority of men. The RP obviously filled a void for many men raised believing in egalitarian principles that became huge liabilities in dating when they got older and a turn off for a lot of women. Or they weren’t taught the importance of their masculine role in escalating sexual tension. . So for polite society to curb the influence of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 10:10 AM
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They want men to act like chameleons or psychopaths for their convenience . It’s almost like they don’t know how men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 10:26 AM
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You can’t try to pacify male aggression and potency, because it scares you(despite young women being the least likeliest demographic to be abused by men) then expect decades of male pacification to not affect the sexy traits that women can’t get enough of and that is linked to aggressiveness and assertiveness. You’re asking men to behave like complete chameleons which just impossible. They are practically different sides of the same coin. It takes effort to know how to correctly channel aggressi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 08:49 AM
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They’re going to try shame economically attractive men to marry them. The vast majority of mediocre men would be more than happy to be in relationships with women, and wouldn’t need much pressuring or coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 06:30 PM
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Not going to happen. Women’s sexual desire is a fickle beast and emasculating men by making them fulfill female gender roles, even if it’s the rational solution and would allow more men to explore their feminine side whilst easing the pressure on them to fulfil toxic masculine norms, would only dry up women’s vaginas.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 06:26 PM
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There’s a higher chance that both genders will just go full robosexual to fulfill their inflated expectations for mates that can’t be met by the human LTR/dating market rather than that we will have mass gay conversion therapy. It’s not like gay men and women don’t have problems in dating too. Straight men may be able to find far more willing sexual partners if they turned gay, but they’ll still suffer loneliness since gay men behave like other straight men when it comes to pumping and dumping. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/19 11:10 PM
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I’m convinced half of the problems that many men complain about in this sub would be solved if you guys converted to Islam.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 11:16 AM
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I’m not a conservative myself but as I understand, most conservative only focus on enforcing male gender roles because they can observe that men are suffering more than women from their own masculine deficiency which gender roles can help alleviate, even if in the current social environment, fulfilling male gender roles doesn’t come with extra benefits like authority but with added responsibility. Also most conservatives have realised that women have become a considerable force in dating, politi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 12:15 AM
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Reciprocity is key. If women demand more from men, then it should only be fair that men should demand more from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/19 12:06 AM
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As I’ve said, I’m sure women who go on tinder are open to relationships with the men they fuck if there’s chemistry. But it’s mainly for hooking up. Relationships are secondary in dating apps that specialises in being a place to find a person for a hookup . Keep self projecting, plenty of women are enjoying casual sex, even if you don’t. You sound pretty bitter and lonely, like anyone who habitually self projects. Telling me I’m an incel because I trust women when they say they enjoy casual sex,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 07:26 AM
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And somehow, you know more about these women who go on tinder than the women themselves who do admit to enjoying the experience? I think you’re self projecting. You had a bad experience on dating apps because you found out you don’t like casual sex and now, to make yourself feel better about those bad choices, you delude yourself into thinking that this is the common experience of most women on dating apps like tinder. I don’t think I’ve said all women are on dating apps, it’s probably just a si…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 06:35 AM
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If these women are repeatedly going on dating apps mainly known for hooking up, to have sex with hot guys and are constantly being disappointed by the fact that these hot guys don’t stick around because they have better options for LTR, then what can I say. If that’s the experience of the average women going on casual dating apps in your point of view, then that just reflects badly on these women and their inability to stop making the same poor choices. But I assume this is either your own perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 05:50 AM
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Yet tinder exists...Do you know women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 05:06 AM
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Aside from beta incels who believe in controlling female sexuality, I think you’ve neglected to explore one other group of people who support anti abortion measures for a different and far more controversial reason, which they will never admit publicly. Namely racial identitarians who desire to preserve favourable racial demographics and birth rates. You can argue that abortion doesn’t have any measurable effect on demographics but the fact that black community would be a significant political f…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 04:25 AM
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Worsened. It’s been a revelation to me, that even in a sub that attracts open minded people when it comes to the SMP/RMP, some things cannot be reconciled between the two genders. Which does bode well for the average person. This sub has strengthened my belief that we will see the gulf increase between both women and men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 04:03 AM
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Lol. If getting pumped and dumped was so painful for so many women, it wouldn’t be so popular and we wouldn’t have so many apps catering to the sexual strategies of the modern woman. Maybe you don’t like casual sex, but many women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 03:48 AM
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Lol... Women want sex just as much as men, just that they typically are more selective in who they have casual sexual with. There’s a reason that as women gained financial independence and started being more assertive in the SMP/RMP, the traits that women desire in men started to shift more towards being sexually appealing instead of things like “sensitive relationship quality men”. Stop it with this PR “women are holier than thou” bullshit when it comes to sex. Women wanna fug, just like men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/19 03:39 AM
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Well it’s about expressing enough attractive emotions to make your SO feel like you’re emotionally connecting with her, but not too much that she thinks you’re a wimp or that you can’t handle your problems all by yourself. And that’s a very shaky middle ground and leaves many men feeling emotionally repressed and used, as most of these men just want some reciprocity without feeling judged. Because to her, if you can’t even handle your own problems, how will you handle her issues and fulfill your…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 11:30 PM
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There are months where I don’t have much sexual urges due to the drugs I take for a longterm health problem and I still have the desire to connect with women. I still get erections and when I’m going through one of these phases, I can still satisfy my partners, but the sexual feelings aren’t that strong or enjoyable . The problem is with that question is that the vast majority of women overly rely on their sexual power instead of an interesting personality to attract men, which means guys like m…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 09:32 AM
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Rational double standard. Most parents know from experience that it’s harder for boys to fall into sexual hedonism and become the stereotype of the sex addicted babymomma factory that is Chad, whilst for girls, it’s exceedingly easy . And with girls, the consequences of their risky sexual adventures and being coerced by irresponsible men to partake in risky sexual acts , is much greater with risk of pregnancy and life altering abortions that can destroy a young girls promising future and emotion…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/19 09:11 AM
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Sure, no one here is advocating control women or their sexual choices , just don’t claim that women are against sexist gender roles when their actions would suggest otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 05:31 AM
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OP, Redpillers aren’t Tradcons
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 04:36 PM
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And you’re a naive simpleton
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 04:10 PM
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I think it’s very convenient to be an advocate for full personal agency, when your gender has so much institutional protection, convenient family laws, a dating environment that skews the power balance towards women, a welfare state that mainly caters to the needs of women, widespread social tolerance for female double standards and hypocrisy whilst society is incredibly sensitive to men coercing women to fulfill gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 03:55 PM
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Oh the irony of a feminist telling men that their entrapment in gender roles is entirely their fault, yet when the same happens to women m, it’s sysemic oppression and misogyny. As usual, feminists will resort to traditional notions of male hyper agency and female hypo agency when it is convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 03:32 PM
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Didn’t women face the same rate of harassment in similarly male dominated comfortable white collars jobs? Didn’t stop them from entering the workforce en masse. Personally, I think workplace harrasssmebt is overblown. And most HR departments take seriously female victims of on site harassment, more so than the concerns of men since there’s extra litigation risks in not treating the concerns of female workers seriously. I’ve seen men get bullied at the workplace by the resident aggro, complain to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 03:25 PM
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That’s one interpretation of that survey. Another is that the rare few women who do ask men out, tend to overshoot when it comes to the type of men they’re willing to ask out. To put it bluntly, these women tend to pursue men who are considerably more attractive than they are, and who have considerably better options, which would make the risk reward of pursuing these men be far more favourable for these women but give an impression that women who do ask men out tend to be desperate or over esti…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 03:06 PM
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Well then I don’t believe domestic responsibilities can be equated to real work. Then again, I’m not a man child who needs a woman to take care of me in order to function. These men don’t realise that their workhorses to these women, who no doubt have the better deal in these pseudo traditional relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 02:45 PM
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Feminism isn’t my friend. Especially when feminists will do whatever they can to maintain paternalistic and sexist laws when it’s in the favour of women, even as the conditions that once justified those laws like lack of employment for women no longer exists. And I’m mainly taking a jab at your comment on men being motivated to have SAHW because they’d prefer women not have their own “stuff”. All I’m saying is, eventually with the way alimony and divorce laws work, your “stuff” eventually become…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 02:31 PM
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Because you think like a typical feminist who lacks empathy for these men. You can’t understand that for many men who committed their whole lives to fulfilling some traditional notions of masculinity, an attack on traditional masculinity is an attack on the very thing that allows them to feel validated by society and women. And unless these very same feminists are also criticising women and major aspects of society for reducing men’s worth to their ability to fulfill performative notions of masc…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 02:15 PM
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Because naturally, men being the rational subjugators they are, men will want to create a situation whereby in the likelihood that a marriage end, they’d be in far worse financial position because the courts reward women who stay stay at home with a larger share of her husbands assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 01:56 PM
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Feminists want to eliminate traditional masculinity and gender roles without addressing the powerful sexual gender dynamic whereby women reward men for displaying those traits, which creates a positive feedback loop that helps m strengthens traditional masculinity hold on men. Feminists, like any other self righteous collectivists don’t desire to properly contextualise and analyse a complex problem which may lead to uncomfortable questions about their own groups contribution to these issues. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 01:52 PM
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Feminists want to eliminate traditional masculinity and gender roles without addressing the powerful sexual gender dynamic whereby women reward men for displaying those traits, which creates a positive feedback loop that helps m strengthens traditional masculinity hold on men. Feminists, like any other self righteous collectivists don’t desire to properly contextualise and analyse a complex problem which may lead to uncomfortable questions about their own groups contribution to these issues. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 12:44 PM
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Lol, women generally want to abandon female gender roles whilst strengthening certain male gender roles which conveniently benefits them. There are men, like certain tradcons and redpill types who haven’t gotten over the anger phase when they realise hypocritical modern empowered have successfully gaslighted society into thinking they’re over gender roles whilst behaving otherwise, who may want to bring back female gender roles so the gender contract can be atleast mutually beneficial and fair. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/19 12:22 PM
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Says the person who equated a fringe male seperatist group to billions of men. That’s why I’m laughing at you, “kid”. Your comment about educational levels, or past history of industriousness somehow isn’t relevant to determining a mans worthiness of becoming a mate slaps on the face of decades of studies on social mobility. You’re making incredibly nonsensical comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 11:16 AM
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Lol. No comment
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 11:10 AM
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Lol. No Comment
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 11:02 AM
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What makes you think MGTOW represent the average man? Most men often report becoming fathers as the greatest moment of their lives, but some do suffer from prenatal depression like women of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 10:51 AM
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This has nothing to do with birth rates. Babies are still being born and the vast majority of women still have urges to have children, unfortunately now, a growing proportion of children are being raised in unstable arrangements where mothers are unmarried.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/19 10:37 AM
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From TED talks on Vulnerability and Shame: "Here's what you need to know. Shame is highly, highly correlated, with addiction, depression, violence, aggression, bullying, suicide, eating disorders. And here's what you even need to know more: Guilt? Inversely correlated with those things. The ability to hold something we've done or want to do up against who we want to be, is incredibly adaptive. It's uncomfortable, but it's adaptive. The other thing you need to know about shame is it's absolutely …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 04:11 PM
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What did you expect? Even Empowered women who apparently believe in equality and identify with the feminist movement are more likely to sacrifice men in the first sign of trouble. We all speak good of equality and breaking along down unhelpful gender norms, but even those who preach those values rarely ever put those ideals into action when shit gets real. Maybe the egalitarian idealists in all of us will just have be resigned to the fact that whether male disposability is nature or nurture, or …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 01:17 PM
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Feminism has always cared about whether women were being socially coerced into repressive gender roles and expectations in relationships. You’d have to be completely daft to think that feminists don’t care about the state of women in relationships. Men do not have the opportunities to completely exercise their agency when it comes to the types of roles they want to pursue for their own happiness, without the threat of social alienation and constant loneliness. They are being coerced into roles t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/19 12:36 PM
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Yes, it must be pathetic to think of the greater interests of men who don’t want to be held hostage to outdated notions of masculinity that won’t cut it in a changing world.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/19 05:32 AM
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I’m a man
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/19 05:27 AM
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The whole point of expanding the notion of masculinity is to better complement women who are increasingly taking masculine roles like working full time and to put less pressure on men who don’t want to be corporate slaves for the rest of their lives. Men shouldn’t feel bad or be punished for fulfilling nurturing roles like child rearing, nor should they feel less masculine. We can have both men and women helping each other out. Right now men who want to be nurturers are pressured to suppress the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/19 04:48 AM
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Those traits can be found in women even before the feminist revolution. Women aren’t inherently cowardly or parasitical . And with the radical shifts in the modern economy, and the upcoming automation revolution, many men won’t be able to fulfill those expectations. Do Tradcons like yourselves just want a whole generation of men to be relegated to the fringes of society when trad notions of masculinity becomes so unattainable as a result of the ever relentless march of technological progress tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/19 04:28 AM
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Well, not in the US, but in Scandinavian countries like Norway, that is very much the case. And I didn’t say that women are having multiple baby Daddy’s,, just that they’re more likely to recycle high status men who already have children with other women . Those men will be having multiple baby mommas.. In the future as the US passes more single mother friendly welfare reform as a way to encourage birth rates among career women who can’t find MR right due to the often talked about shortage of ec…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 01:03 PM
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Just look at Norway if you want know where the rest of the west are heading. https://sciencenorway.no/childlessness-fathers-forskningno/a-quarter-of-norwegian-men-never-father-children/1401047?utm_content=bufferc823f&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 03:10 AM
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Or put up with the stoicism required in so called modern relationships, whereby men must be a woman’s rock during her difficult times whilst repressing his own problems or else he isn’t a real man worthy of her glorious Vagina and would rendered sexually unattractive. Or accepting gender roles when it comes to being a provider or invulnerable protector, and a beast of burden, and feeling worthless when you inevitably fail to live up to these ideals that women put on a pedestal. Whilst expecting …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 02:40 AM
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Hypergamy driven Polygyny among career women, where high status and attractive men get to have multiple sexual partners and baby mamas and where women can get to fulfill their hypergamy instincts but without commitment whilst alienating a large proportion of men will mostly become the most dominant form of sexual relationship. But for this to happen, the feminist welfare state will need to expand and extract more resources from men, hence why calls for better welfare for empowered women has beco…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 02:22 AM
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Partly explains what has been observed in Norway when it comes to the high percentage of men who end up becoming undateable and childless relative to women in the same age bracket, and how high status and attractive men are being recycled by women. https://sciencenorway.no/childlessness-fathers-forskningno/a-quarter-of-norwegian-men-never-father-children/1401047?utm_content=bufferc823f&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer Although looking at the Norwegian example, your cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/19 12:22 AM
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The plenty of studies on the dating experiences of short men would say otherwise.
/r/MensRights06/09/19 04:13 PM
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Both men and women want their partners to look good. Height preferences in dating exists for a reason. Heck I remember a survey showed that overweight women are far less likely to entertain overweight men as dating prospects than vice versa. With women there’s an added financial dimension.
/r/MensRights06/09/19 03:57 PM
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The thing is, even women who ended up waiting till their 30s to settle down but can’t find an “eligible” partner still have plenty of options when it comes to having children. Heck in progressive countries like Norway, Hypergamy driven Polyamory among unmarried career women has become the norm and has meant that fewer Norweigen men are becoming fathers but those who do end up having children with multiple women, whilst more than a quarter of men don’t have any kids at all by the time they reach …
/r/MensRights06/09/19 03:47 PM
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Problem is, even women who ended up waiting till their 30s to settle down but can’t find an “eligible” partner still have plenty of options when it comes to having children. Heck in countries like Norway, Polyamory among unmarried career women has become the norm and has meant that fewer Norweigen men are becoming fathers but those who do end up having children with multiple women, whilst the bottom 25 percent of men don’t have any kids at all by the time they reach middle age. https://scienceno…
/r/MensRights06/09/19 03:37 PM
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I’m in a similar situation, but for health reasons. I saw how my decision to prioritise my health over short term materialism has impacted by dating options, and has left me pretty jaded about women. Don’t fall for for the egalitarian meme fellas.
/r/MensRights06/09/19 03:23 PM
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Nah, they do know what they want. They want to have their cake and eat it too, like everyone else. They’re just not attractive or conniving enough to be able to do so. Just remember that to the average empowered women, feminist values stop being guiding principles for their personal lives when it stops being advantageous. Real life Feminists aren’t the most consistent folks out there.
/r/MensRights06/09/19 02:04 PM
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Just imagine the media outcry if a study suggests that men don’t want to get married because the average women “doesn’t bring much to the table” when it comes to them complying with traditional female stereotypes and gender roles. We would have a feminist social media campaign calling out sexism of the researchers and there would probably be a few people getting fired from their posts.
/r/MensRights06/09/19 01:14 PM
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Most white collar men haven’t climbed the corporate hierarchy high enough that denying women internship or mentoring will have an impact on a women’s career , but the minority who do are smart enough to realise that as more women occupy positions of influence in the cut throat and back stabbing world of corporate, the number of immoral and power hungry women willing to weaponise the MeToo hysteria to their advantage against those men in positions of power will increase . Most successful men coul…
/r/MensRights06/09/19 12:32 PM
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The day that we find a gay gene or be able to create a pill that can change someone’s sexuality, don’t be surprised that it’ll be mostly straight men going gay.
/r/MensRights06/09/19 12:06 PM
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For many women, outdated gender roles are fine only when you impose them on men. Even so called progressive women can’t seem to shake off their preferences for men who comply with trad gender roles. This isn’t news to any man who date women in the year 2019 but I’m just frustrated that these obvious truths are rarely talked about when we discuss why a gender earnings gap exists. Turns out attracting women is the greatest incentive for men to outearn women by becoming literal corporate slaves. An…
/r/MensRights06/09/19 12:03 PM
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The problem with progressives is intersectional politics. There’s no chance of trying to appeal to the average left liberal if they believe that men are far more privileged and have more opportunities than women, and those men who do get abused by the system or are failing are just those who failed to utilise those extra privileges and so deserve their fates. You also underestimate how so called progressive leftists and liberals still subconsciously believe in gender stereotypes. They still beli…
/r/MensRights05/09/19 03:53 AM
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I think for this to happen, men will need a radical change in how they see themselves. Most men care more about the interests of women than their own genders interests and many seem to think men who fail in life or get abused by the system are just losers who have only themselves to blame. And coupled with the fact that the average women have positive bias towards their own gender and negative bias against men, it just wouldn’t make sense for our main political parties to ever entertain the noti…
/r/MensRights05/09/19 03:30 AM
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Considering how welfare has predictably contributed to the culture of irresponsibility among single mothers and absent fathers, Im guessing that whoever organised this program to prove the viability of UBI don’t have sincere intentions. The more you subsidise the poor choices of people, the more people will make those poor choices. UBI can only succeed if you take account of the imperfections and potential regressiveness of human behaviour. An East Asian welfare state like Singapore that encoura…
/r/MensRights05/09/19 03:17 AM
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Lol. In spite of feminist propaganda, most women worked barring the upper classes for much of human history. The post WW2 period where a man could support a wife and family with his sole income was a historical anomaly. Anyway, compared to the women of the eighteenth century who were working long hours in workhouses and farms doing less labour intensive jobs than their husbands, women today work considerably less than most of their predecessors, with the exception of those who lived during the b…
/r/MensRights05/09/19 03:05 AM
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Well to be fair, a significant proportion of feminists back in the day identified with the LGBT cause and were actual Lesbians. And the same conservative men who were calling women who dared challenge traditionally servile notions of femininity were also, willing to secretly have sexual relationships with these very same women even if they were still bigoted towards them , since feminists and empowered women were seen as more rebellious and sexually assertive than the average conformist virgin W…
/r/MensRights03/09/19 12:32 PM
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Well that’s a pipe dream. Most Straight Men cannot solely redefine what constitutes masculine norms when the notion of masculinity exists within a socio sexual dynamic that is hard to break without solving the male disposable question. Namely, the average heterosexual men are far more disposable in the dating and social world, and hence have less chances of exploring different models of masculinity without the threat of severe alienation and sexual rejection. Unless you want men to form seperate…
/r/MensRights02/09/19 11:55 AM
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She may call it outrage porn but there is a need to shock many in our society, and galvanise men, to the fact that males are lagging behind in so many areas in a time when feminists have convinced most that men are privileged. Many men, even those plagued with what we consider gendered issues don’t seem to realise how systemic and widespread these problems really are, and either believe they’re alone in their suffering or have internalised the notion of male disposability which is preventing the…
/r/MensRights27/08/19 01:36 PM
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The dating world is a long way from being the fair competitive free market as contrapoint suggests though. Just look at the role the feminist welfare state has played in making a large proportion of working class men redundant to the average women, where in places like Norway a quarter of men are lonely and childless by the time they reach middle age because many women within the same socio economic strata would prefer to marry the state and engage in polyamory to the exclusion of undesirable me…
/r/MensRights25/08/19 03:20 PM
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Just your typical female collectivist with a severe complex.
/r/MensRights23/08/19 11:46 PM
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Meh..it’s not like we didn’t know what the average misandrist feminist felt about men. I say the more honest feminists are about men, the better. This is preferable than the PR exercises feminists like to engage in whenever someone raises male issues, whilst do nothing but making these issues worse or silencing dissenting voices.
/r/MensRights18/08/19 05:14 AM
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Shitty straw man. No one is saying husbands have a right to rape their wives, but if Women are able to exercise their sexual agency by denying husbands sex , husbands have every right to exercise their financial agency and deny women access to their resources and labour. They should have the right to leave these relationships without significant financial penalty.
/r/MensRights11/08/19 11:03 AM
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Considering alimony is mostly an Anglosphere phenomena, I think the welfare state takes that role. https://me.me/i/research-finds-that-as-a-group-only-men-pay-tax-292257fb72894016af14e29240f26aeb
/r/MensRights11/08/19 09:47 AM
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Mate, I’ll probably last a good 50 minutes if I didn’t feel tired always being the only active participant in sex. I also have a larger than average girth which means that most of my gfs get sore after 15 minutes of sex, so most of the time, I’m not even half way done before I have to jerk it off so my (now ex)gf don’t have to feel sore in the morning . I orgasm more jerking off than having sex. I don’t even like oral. I’ve only orgasmed 3 times through penetration alone. Orgasming through mastu…
/r/MensRights11/08/19 09:25 AM
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In an ideal world, wive don’t owe their husbands sex and men don’t owe their wives their pay checks and a sense of security. Yet men, who are disproportionately primary breadwinners in most marriages are punished by the law for denying wives access to their resources(financial abuse), whilst women are able to exercise their agency to deny their husbands sex. Sounds fair?
/r/MensRights11/08/19 08:57 AM
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Women who’ve had their fun when they were young, but settled down with a nice provider, who doesn’t provide the spark but who is a great human wallet and father. Sounds like these women married the wrong men. Most people, other than asexuals, do have sexual desires. It’s an integral part of being human. A sexless marriage isn’t healthy.
/r/MensRights11/08/19 08:52 AM
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Yes, exactly. It’s kind of like those pointless studies that shows how married men are richer than their single counterpart, implying that marriage is a great way for men to make money. Whilst ignoring how selective bias may mean men who are disproportionately socially mobile are getting hitched, whilst men who are struggling financially are being rejected. A lot of these I interpretations of these studies seem only intend on making women look good, whilst in actual fact if you delve into the de…
/r/MensRights11/08/19 08:46 AM
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My uncle, who was kind of a playboy in his youth and is now a relationship expert in my ethnic community, told me and my brothers when we were young the secret to delaying the near inevitable sexless stage of a marriage. Cheat, or at least give an impression to your wife you’re cheating when she’s starts to hate having sex with you or uses sex as leverage against you and not as an essential part of a healthy relationship. He says women get bored with men when they feel they’ve successfully trapp…
/r/MensRights11/08/19 08:23 AM
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There must must a few intellectually honest feminists who actually want to help men and women, even if they are in the extreme minority?
/r/MensRights05/07/19 09:31 AM
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I consider it one facet of toxic femininity;An inability to accept responsibility or personal agency
/r/MensRights23/09/18 10:15 PM
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Feminists have a talent for gaslighting
/r/MensRights22/09/18 07:41 AM
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This is the strange thing about progressive liberals. Theyre willing to admit that a major reason why black men under perform in school, and are overrepresented in crime statistics is because of the fatherless epidemic in the black community. But they cant bring themselves to admit that empowering women to destroy families and allowing institutional feminists to normalise single motherhood, and incentivise the creation single mother led families through a progressive welfare state wont have simi…
/r/MGTOW22/09/18 06:24 AM
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Its also rooted female nature, sexual expediency of men, and heirarchy. Weve only had capitalism for a few hundred years, and most of human history, men were in so called "egalitarian" hunterer gatherer societies. Yet the average person still has less than half the amount of male ancestors as female ancestors.
/r/MensRights22/09/18 06:03 AM
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Sounds like mental illness
/r/MensRights22/09/18 05:56 AM
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The corporate liberals like the Dems are going to lose a whole lotta lefty and liberal men as they go ahead with their fem idpol bullshit and alienate men who happen to have spines.
/r/MGTOW22/09/18 05:52 AM
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I think they did have it, but they were called nerds. Those guys could work through their 20s, get a decent paycheck and have an excarousel woman who plays good wife by the time he reaches 30. Now its not even enough for below average guys to be wage slaves, and the girls they would have married in their late 20s after having their fun are now content in being Chads pseudo harem and becoming a single mother when theyre about to reach the wall. Well at least now theyre least likely to become vict…
/r/MGTOW22/09/18 05:43 AM
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You mean birth rates, the nuclear family and social cohesion is going down hill. Whatever you consider western civilisation today will survive, but it won’t be anywhere recognisable. Government are doing just fine covering up the dysfunction by the immigration traditional non whites who still have a functioning gender relations and incentives structure for stable families and long term relationships.
/r/MGTOW22/09/18 01:03 AM
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Peak bourgeoisie feminism
/r/MensRights21/09/18 06:01 PM
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I thought the French film industry was already widely known for having the most female led movies and a bastion of progressive film culture? Most Feminists who bemoan Hollywoods alleged sexist streak against women always point to the French film as what Hollywood should look up to. But thats not enough for these ideoloues
/r/MensRights21/09/18 05:59 PM
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It also has to do with the lack of community, role models and, alienation for the guys I know who took the shahadah. I would never convert, but I understand why some do. Islam is very community focused.
/r/MensRights27/08/18 01:33 AM
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Sounds like youve met my sister
/r/MensRights26/08/18 11:31 PM
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Marriage gives them power over the age of 25(if they get married). Having Children out of wedlock gives them power, since governments love listening to helpless mothers. They can also influence the next generation, which is in itself a form of power. Gynocentrism doesnt just stop when women hit the wall.
/r/MGTOW26/08/18 06:13 PM
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There are many men who do get raped in warzones(emasculating/demoralising the enemy), especially political prisoners, who are disproportionately male, but who dont talk about it since male rape is even more stigmatized than female rape. So we do get the whole sadistic buffet in war.
/r/MensRights23/08/18 03:36 PM
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The author is ignoring the elephant in the room: Fatherlessness. With the feminist led destigmatisation, celebration and normalisation of single mothers and the disintergration of the Nuclear family, the rate of fatherlessness has more than quadrupled in the last 50 years and its getting worse. It is now the most dominant type of family in many parts of the west. Theres been 30 years of scientific literature on the effects of fatherlessness on the community, and most of these studies showed a di…
/r/MensRights23/08/18 03:20 PM
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They are the Self hating Jews and uncle Toms of the male gender.
/r/MensRights20/08/18 10:57 AM
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So using that rationale, since men are the only gender who leave a positive fiscal impact on Government budget over their lifetime and pay Taxes , men shouldnt have to be forced to pay for female health coverage or female welfare programs.
/r/MensRights20/08/18 10:56 AM
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Sounds like a politician in the making
/r/MensRights18/08/18 09:52 AM
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You reap what you sow
/r/MensRights17/08/18 01:46 PM
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That's exactly what happened to my favourite teacher at highschool. He was the only male teacher in that year level, he was a Vietnam war vet a be he was a great tea Cher who eas the only one who could get the troublesome Boyd attention and redirect their energy to something constructive. He was a great time model for all the boys who didn't have fathers around, and taught us a lot what it is to be men. He even introduced us to Monty python. He was the fired for hugging a 10 year old girl who lo…
/r/MensRights16/08/18 06:51 AM
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Its probably one of the major reasons why reactionaries are gaining power in eastern Europe.
/r/MensRights13/08/18 01:14 PM
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I wonder if the increasing rates of childlessness and loneliness among gen X and millenial women has to do with it? Or maybe women are more likely than men to seek help and be prescribed SSRIs? I would like to see the rates of SSRI use over the last 40 years. Is this just a modern phenomena?
/r/MensRights11/08/18 04:14 PM
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Or marry men who make less than them which will become more common if feminists succeed in closing the wage gap. Women under 30 already outearn millennial men which is fueling lower marriage rates.
/r/MensRights22/07/18 06:18 PM
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This is one of the few reasons I admire childless career women who don't fall for female victim hood culture.
/r/MensRights21/07/18 06:07 AM
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I know this is a joke but there are so many times I've heard feminists say the same thing. Imagine if someone said that we must close the avg male- female sexual partners gap? They're pretty much worse than incels, yet complain when incels say similar things. Female sexual entitlement is enabled by gynocentric society whilst sexually frustrated men are demonised.
/r/MensRights21/07/18 05:23 AM
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Pretty ridiculous argument , but you can say that women are disproportionately responsible for pollution. I mean, our consumerist economy couldn't exist without enthusiastic women spenders. Capitalism needs liberated salary women to buy worthless crap that ends up being in landfills when those items are no longer in fashion, which contributes to pollution. Let's not forget the use of plastic beads in cosmetics, which ends up in our oceans killing wild life. Men tend save their money, or spend it…
/r/MensRights17/07/18 01:44 AM
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Low birth rates too
/r/MensRights16/07/18 08:52 AM
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Men are over represented at both the high and low end of the IQ bell curve, and IQ is the best predictor of career success. It's only natural that that men are overrepresented in the BBC top 20 most payed list, just like its completely expected that 9 out of 10 homeless people and prisoners are men.
/r/MensRights12/07/18 07:13 PM
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It's also a great way of hiding the fact that women contribute and incentivize men to behave in toxic ways. Men are all to blame for men being held hostage to harmful gender stereotypes or gender roles,despite countless of studies showing that women are attracted to those traits. It's a very convenient scapegoat
/r/MensRights12/07/18 07:05 PM
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Actually gay men have the lowest rate of domestic violence, whilst lesbians and straight couples have higher rates. Lesbians are even more prone to DV than straight couples. So it is pretty deceptive that they use a picture of gay men fighting to highlight the issue of DV. Gotta push the false narrative, so people won't put 2 and 2 together and realise women are as much to blame for DV, and men aren't intrinsically violent as feminists would like us to believe.
/r/MensRights12/07/18 06:53 PM
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Is wolf whistling still a thing? I haven't heard anyone wolf whistle at an attractive lady for atleast a decade, and I work near a university and a construction site. Most guys these days are very apprehensive about commenting on the appearance of women they don't know.
/r/MensRights12/07/18 06:28 PM
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Guys are also so much more conciliatory towards ea h other. There are so many times when I'd much ray her spend a weekend with friends than with my ex girlfriend and her friends. Men try to contribute and make situations which would be uncomfortable or boring into a positive and fun experience. H And everyone tries to do their bit. With women, the expectations is on you to entertain them, like a jester.
/r/MensRights02/07/18 07:06 PM
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You can say the same thing about the average ma le criminal
/r/MensRights02/07/18 12:32 PM
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Im sure alimony more than levels it out
/r/MensRights02/07/18 10:56 AM
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Israel is considered a western country. And not everyone here is From North America. The MRA movement isnt an exclusively North American phenomena.
/r/MensRights02/07/18 10:09 AM
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I'll bite. MRAs are still a tiny minority so even if we did pool resources, it would ntreally amount to much. There's also a problem of attitudes towards MRA which makes being a politically active MRA risky, especially as we've been grouped together with the alt right by institutionally empowered feminists like those in the SPLC. What we are doing is trying to make MRA less taboo and get more men and women to be aware of MRA issues so we can increase our base, which will enable is to be more pol…
/r/MensRights02/07/18 06:30 AM
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Ive stopped using the BBC podcast app after seeing how gynocentric and feminist obsessed BBC has gotten, not to mention the deluge of podcasts catered to women. I dont know why the government has allowed a Tax payer funded public broadcaster to alienate men, who are the the primary tax payer, is beyond me.
/r/MensRights22/06/18 06:02 AM
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So Ive just found an active thread on our sister board Leftpol about the benefits and likelihood of Eugenics. This is the third thread on such a topic for the last few montths https://8ch.net/leftpol/res/65106.html#67557 Leftpoltards are agreeing with Poltards and larps that Eugenics is great, but Eugenics is against every principle the left holds dear. And yet, looking at the replies, I cant seem to refute their arguments that Eugenics is coming, and will probably upend the very social fabric o…
/r/MensRights21/06/18 04:24 PM
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Maybe theres nothing to be done? We are never going to rehabilitate the 1 in 100,000 violent men who end up committing rape or murdering both women and men. Violent Rape is not an epidemic, nor is it a systemic problem which could be fix by reeducation . This is like saying we need to teach women not to kill their babies just because a minority within a minority of women are driven to murder their own infants. I also read somewhere that a majority of rapists and murderers come from broken homes …
/r/MensRights20/06/18 06:02 AM
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This has nothing to do with the article, but as an ex Muslim with family back home, I'll say this, the nonsensical and misandric strain of feminism that tends to get the world's medias attention is turning off a lot of conservative men in these kinds of countries from embracing even the good kind of feminism the Muslim world needs. Neurotic Western feminists couldn't have done a better job of destroying the credibility of feminism and helping religious hardliners justify the continued oppression…
/r/MensRights18/06/18 11:15 AM
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Most of the lower status men who were cannon fodder in war and who feminists pretend didn't exist when they make their silly arguments about male privilege were also denied the right to vote for most of the history of liberal democracy, and received the right to vote only a few decades before female suffrage. The fact is, the vast majority of men were as politically disenfranchised as women throughout much of history, whilst having more of the responsibilities and risks. There was never a time w…
/r/MensRights15/06/18 06:18 PM
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I wonder what Jordan Peterson has to say about this?
/r/MensRights24/05/18 09:38 AM
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Quit the alt right talk mate or you're going to get this sub brigaded or banned. I have plenty of African and middle eastern friends, and they all suffer like we do, although they have an easier time considering they can get into a trad relationship with women from their own ethnic group. No ones taking "your women". The average woman isn't giving nonwhite men an easier time compared to white men. Stop letting alt right memes that have no basis in reality to infect your mind.
/r/MensRights24/05/18 02:00 AM
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Correlation=/=causation. Could it be that men who to get married these days tend to be fitter, richer and have better health and genes than the average man? I mean, when I was depressed and in an unhealthy state as a result of stress, I was kryptonite to the average woman. But as I got healthier, and mentally stronger, I was able to have relationships. I bet this is even more of a case in marriage where men are expected to be healthy enough to perform. Marriage selection is ruthless to men
/r/MensRights24/05/18 01:39 AM
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We see our fathers and uncles getting divorced, and spending years in limbo, not to mention our friends getting falsely accused of rape or abuse by an ex or an FWB, and you wonder why we are more selective about who we fuck? Let's not forget that in the west, its seems like its OK for women to shame men for having sexual hang ups to their friends, whilst men would be called monsters for doing the same. Heck, my brother nearly committed suicide when his drunk ex GF told her friends at a party tha…
/r/MensRights24/05/18 01:35 AM
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"The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place. — Robert Briffault, The Mothers, Vol. I, p. 191 This sounds like what is happening in the feminist welfare states of Scandinavia, specifically Norway, where a quarter of men by age 45 don't ever father children and will probably die alone. And this is getting worse. If men no longer provide value to women, they ceas…
/r/MensRights24/05/18 01:19 AM
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