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India is similar I think with an unnatural surplus of men. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:06 PM
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China had a one child policy that forbidden couples from having more than one child. Even if it's abolished now, it's still part of the culture. India also has more poverty as far as I know and in poverty, children become a financial asset rather than a liability so people have more of them. At some point in a country's development, that flips and children become a financial liability so people have less. I guess China has already passed that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 05:03 PM
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Why not? He has to deal with all the blowback of the destruction all the other guys cause. Guys wanting sex and love and not mutually exclusive. Girls wanting money and love are not mutually exclusive. Pretty much every guy still wants sex from a girl, even if he want love, and pretty much every girl still wants money from a guy, even if she wants love. Some just take it to the extremes and forget about love.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 04:58 PM
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Society is forgiving to men, sure. But is it not equally or more forgiving to women? What do men get away with that women don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 10:39 PM
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Is that a gendered thing though? Cardi B admitted to drugging and robbing men before she was famous and didn't even get "cancelled", so didn't even need to have supporters fighting against her cancellation. Are there women who lost their job/livelihood due to their own poor decisions who you think wouldn't have lost it if they were a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:01 AM
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More so than women? If you're claiming that, can you give some examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 04:33 AM
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Desire cannot be negotiated though. Almost every woman is going to be happy to have almost constant sex at the beginning, and will probably agree to that. Almost every woman is going to want significantly less sex after some months to years, and reminding her of a prior agreement to have more is just going to give you at best, some unenthusiastic duty sex, which no man really wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:49 PM
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Look at it this way. If you want to be respected and attractive, you've got to become that caricature first. Then once you internalize the behaviors and characteristics, you can go back to being yourself. Like with art - first you have to learn to play by the rules but then to be great, you need to break the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:41 PM
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A) what solutions have these two sex criminals offered young men other than "owning the libs?" Tate - get strong, get rich, become interesting, don't tolerate bullshit and you'll get girls and be happy. You're a loser right now, so of course you can't get girls, but it's possible to stop being a loser and become a winner. I'll show you the way. Trump - You think that every other demographic is allowed to be proud of themselves but you are not because they are all victims because apparently you o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 03:05 PM
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alpha bullshit is attractive though
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:21 PM
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Correct. "The blue pill" or "the left" cries about the popularity of Andrew Tate, Donald Trump etc but offers no meaningful solutions to young men and even refuses to acknowledge that they have a problem. Most young men are not particularly radical and just want a sensible, logical, inoffensive mainstream solution, or even just acknowledgement, but are prime targets to get radicalized because "the blue pill" simply offers them nothing. "It's hard to get girls to like me" can quickly become "I ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:20 PM
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Rebrand when black american women discovered that black american men were doing it. Only in the USA could having a passport be used as a derogatory term or be seen as something shady and uncultured lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:05 PM
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Is this all based on your personal experience? Personal experience and observations. I haven't experienced being a woman, but I've experienced being around lots of women and men. Women can get pregnant and are stuck raising kids, including the irreversible effects having a child does to a woman’s body. A woman who is stuck with children or an unsupportive husband will probably achieve less career wise and cannot “get back up” easily. Single mums are also not taken seriously and are stigmatised e…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:37 PM
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Men crave freedom, independence and being with multiple partners a lot more than women do, so being single is appealing to them for this reason. A woman's only objection to being in a relationship is her fear of being with a man who does bad things to her or who she doesn't respect. A man feels like he has to sacrifice a lot more to be in a relationship even with a great, beautiful woman. Women crave stability and commitment a lot more than men do so being single is less appealing. Men generally…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 10:58 AM
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That's one, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:39 PM
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Plus move to a major city with millions in population
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:33 PM
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Get a sales job, go to out to clubs and bars as often as possible and hit on girls, move to a place where you know nobody so don't feel confined to the old you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:28 PM
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It's definitely harder. It's definitely possible. And it definitely has a higher ROI.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:05 PM
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Supply and demand. Men want as much casual sex as possible for the sake of having casual sex. Women don't generally want casual sex and when they do, it's generally because they hope it will develop into a relationship, and it takes more investment to make a woman believe that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:25 PM
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Ok fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:52 PM
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What's the point you're trying to make? That seems both quite obvious and unrelated to the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:29 PM
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Is this the general consensus on here? I'd say men handle it better, and most people agree with that apart from hyper-feminists who see everything as a competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:27 PM
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Ok, so what? The narrative isn't that women are having sex with random guys from tinder every hour. The narrative in your own words is "women can have sex whenever they want", which you've agreed that they can. Just because they can, doesn't mean they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:58 AM
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You're simply wrong. If you want to prove us wrong, do this... Download Tinder, swipe until you run out of swipes on all the men you find somewhat attractive, wait for them to match you, chat with them for a few normal seeming messages, let them flirt a little, then ask them if they want to come over to your place, when they agree, ask them if they have condoms. If they agree to come over to your place and say they have condoms, they are agreeing to have sex with you. Do this now and report back…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:36 AM
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They don't, I'm agreeing with you. I'm saying that undesirable men care about what (relatively) undesirable women have to say about them. And people do not have to have a position of authority to be correct. Sports fans often make correct observations and criticisms about sports players and teams that the teams and coaches fail to make themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 07:34 AM
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Of course you can work on it. If you want to boil it down to something semi-tangible, it's "game". The only things that genetics affect when it comes to attraction and becoming an "elite man" is looks and IQ. But most people's looks and IQ are not so bad that they make it impossible for them to become elite. They might just have to work a bit harder to get there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 07:30 AM
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Correct, but what does that disprove? I don't think these guys' real gripe is that they are judged for getting with the most desirable women because as you said, they're not anyway. Their gripe is that they are left fighting for scraps of the older, bitter, used up women and have to deal with all of their hatred and bitterness for the more desirable men getting with the young girls. They don't get the benefits of being part of the "problem", but they have to deal with all of the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:08 AM
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It won't kill the OF-type industry, it will make it much bigger, but it will make OnlyFans girls obsolete because the AIs can do their jobs more efficiently.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:01 AM
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The idea that eating sandwiches in a park with a man is some great sacrifice on the women's behalf when men will make much greater, genuine sacrifices every day without complaining or even seeing it as a sacrifice is the hypocrisy here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:58 AM
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For sure. Money is just the most accurate measure we have of something more intangible that gives us value. You need that intangible part too, you can't just have the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:09 AM
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Someone who many men would want to be and many women would want to be with. Has money and power and an aura where people can sense that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:59 AM
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"someone above you socioeconomically" ≠ "elite man"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:01 AM
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Ok that doesn't refute my point
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:31 AM
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Because it's socially acceptable for adult women to be childlike and immature Because it's socially acceptable to shit on men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:23 AM
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Ok, and many men are clearly broke and don't claim to be rich or providers yet women still expect them to spend money on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 11:47 PM
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As a "red pill man", I think it's overblown how easy it is for women to date elite men. Like do you really see random non-elite women dating elite men in your real life with any kind of frequency? I don't mean women who were with him before he was "elite", I mean women who got with him once he was already "elite". It's a hell of a lot easier than it is for men, but it's no way near as easy as these red pill people make it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:38 PM
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Do you think single women are happier than married women in countries with no divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:28 PM
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I'm not reading all of that but yeah, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:17 PM
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Because they want to get chosen, and that's the easiest way to get chosen. Same way women don't want to chosen for sex, but wear tight/revealing clothes, post alluring pictures etc. We all want to be chosen for our soul, our spiritual inner being, but unfortunately that's not how the world works.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:04 PM
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flair checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:35 PM
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No. What would be the upside of it? Look how divorce has become de-stigmatized and lead to so many children growing up messed up from that broken home.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:28 PM
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This leads to men expressing them self in how they feel and women interpreting it in woefully wrong ways and then getting upset at men. Can you give any examples of that? Interesting perspective. So you're saying that women aren't disgusted by men's feelings. They just don't understand men's feelings but if the men could express them in a more understandable way, the women would genuinely want to know and wouldn't be turned off?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 12:44 PM
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Yeah because girls are the consumer of dick. Men don't obsess about dick in general, just their own dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 10:34 AM
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Are you a man or woman? What makes you think women care more about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 09:54 AM
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No he’s kinda cooking here. I’ve had v rich men try to date/hookup / whatever with me but they were so socially inept/ so lowkey disrespectful/ so just incompatible with me that I passed. But you found their money and status attractive, right? It's just there were other things that were so unattractive about them that the money and status wasn't enough to make up for those flaws. That doesn't disprove that women aren't attracted to money and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 09:52 AM
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Not really. I was not that popular, I was alright. You're filling in gaps to fit a narrative. Yeah, I know nothing more than what you have told us on the post and I am filling in the large gaps with assumptions. But ok, you weren't super amazingly popular. But you were quite popular but not remarkably so? Now, you're not seen as being super amazingly rich. But you're seen as being quite well off but not remarkably so. Do you not think those 2 factors could have evened out your status over the ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 09:50 AM
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My roommates were identical twins and the boy one cares about the size of his dick but the girl one doesn't
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 09:15 AM
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I'm not doubting that OP is a multimillionaire. I'm doubting that women perceive him as one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 09:13 AM
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None really. Being a doctor is about as exciting and impressive job as you can have. But it's still a job. You've got to go beyond having a job to elicit excitement and unpredictability, which women crave. In fact, being a medical student is probably more exciting and unpredictable to college girls than being a doctor is to adult women. His job clearly gives him status. But not an earth shattering, life changing amount of status. I'm not arguing that the guy doesn't have status and isn't impress…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 05:52 AM
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I don't doubt that. I'm just saying that's not the common perception. A broke guy could get a crappy broken down base level 2nd hand Porsche for $15k. Only a relatively rich guy could get a pimped out brand new Toyota for $100k. But to the naked eye, the guy with the Porsche is going to seem richer and more impressive than the guy with Toyota.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 05:22 AM
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No, I'm saying the opposite. I'm saying that being popular on campus does attract women. That is the college version of status. He probably already had status as a broke college kid. Then he left the college environment and lost that college-specific status. He gained adult status by being a doctor and having money, but his status in his current adult dating market is not necessarily any higher than his status was before in his college dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 05:17 AM
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They basically already are. It's stigmatized to label them as such, but the actions that inevitably lead to those situations are not really stigmatized and even celebrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 05:13 AM
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If you're a 6 figure earner, you should be able to become a millionaire relatively quickly. I'm not doubting you're a multi millionaire. It makes sense. I'm just telling you it wouldn't be my first impression and assumption of you based on your profession and definitely wouldn't be a woman's. The impression of a doctor would be comfortable upper middle class, but not rich. Kinda boring but dependable. Why wouldn't my perceived status be higher? You already had the status boost of being a doctor …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 05:01 AM
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Are you sure you are perceived as being a multi millionaire? I don't think most people would ever assume a doctor is a multi millionaire. And are you sure your perceived status amongst your target demographic now is higher than your perceived status amongst your target demographic was as a college student? Status in college doesn't come from having millions of dollars. I think you probably had more status in a college environment than you think you did and you have less status in an adult enviro…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:26 AM
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I think you're simultaneously taking for granted and underestimating how much dating success your perceived wealth and status gives you whilst overestimating how much perceived wealth and status you actually have. No girl is going to be mindblown by how wealthy and high status a doctor is, but it ticks the box. You probably do a lot better with women than you would if you worked in 7/11. And you probably do a lot worse than women than you would if you were a singer, an sportsman or even a popula…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 04:07 AM
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Yeah, I don't agree with the post I made above. I was just trying to clarify the point I think the original post was trying to make. But I have always doubted the statistics/narratives saying that most women can't really orgasm from vaginal sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 02:19 AM
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No Yes Obviously a man's orgasm serves a much more important biological purpose than a womans, so it makes sense that it is easier to come by. But we are not comparing man's and women's orgasms. We are comparing clitoral and vaginal orgasms.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 02:16 AM
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The clitoris is not necessary for reproduction but the vagina is
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 01:31 AM
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What do you mean by sexual dysfunction?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 01:02 AM
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That we should stop the narrative that women can't orgasm from penetration because then it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. Tell them they can, because apparently they can, then they will.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 01:01 AM
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Because lots of men earn enough to financially take care of the family by themselves and the money the woman could bring to the table from working is insignificant compared to the support/satisfaction she could bring as a housewife. In most cases, such as your example, it makes sense for the woman to work. But in your scenario, what if the man could earn 200k and they were happy with their 200k lifestyle? 300k vs 200k wouldn't make much of a difference to their lifestyle but the woman staying at…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 12:59 AM
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Yeah, it makes no evolutionary sense that women would evolve to get pleasure from having their pussies rubbed/licked but not from being fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 12:51 AM
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Have you been with a man who you were turned off by because his penis was too small? How many men had you been with before at that point? If he was your first or second, do you think you would have felt the same way?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 10:46 PM
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Not true at all...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 10:05 PM
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It's not. Men care about it much more than women do. If a woman has had so much dick that yours is inadequate for her, she's doing you a favor by filtering herself out. She wouldn't be a good partner anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 09:27 PM
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Let's say they want their lifestyle to be better than their peers and not be making any financial sacrifices...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:41 PM
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Do you think most men genuinely don't want a stay at home wife or they just can't fathom being able to afford one so it doesn't cross their mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 05:00 PM
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Why should they be punished? Women literally just have to give average men a chance and they can get date regardless of their age Do you not think your examples are of women who previously could get above average men, then had to drop their standards to average? Having to settle for average is their punishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:43 AM
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Nah. You're massively overestimating yourself because men are gracious enough to not match your energy. I, a not particularly strong man, can restrain a woman's full force and wrath with minimal effort. If I were to fight back with an aggressive woman at even 50% effort, I would seriously damage her.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:24 AM
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Ok, we're in agreement on the first part of your post. You don't need 9 years to reach marriage. You can go from meeting to marriage in less than two if you're 100% certain with your choice (as I was). Yes, but you want to maximize your chances at finding that certain choice, which means starting earlier. Being with someone for 9 years trying to work out if you'll marry them or not sounds excessive. But being single for 2 years, then having a first relationship that doesn't work out for 3 years,…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:13 AM
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Like I don't understand why some men in this space are so insistent that we must settle down 18-22 and when we say, how about between 24-34 instead Ok that's sensible. 34 is a reasonable upper limit, not 45 like you were previously claiming lol. I think the 18-22 thing is an overreaction to counteract people like you's overreaction saying you can wait until 45 to settle down and have children. Realistically most people, men and women, red pill and blue pill, will agree that mid-late 20's is idea…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 03:13 AM
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Not having children is easily reversable for the entire 30 years which are considered childbearing age (15-45) No it's not It's not even the relationship being abusive, it is being stuck in a relationship with someone you no longer love and have grown apart from because you had settled before you had settled into your own skin. I get your point and agree to an extent - being tied down in a relationship in your early 20s does come with sacrifices. But is being relatively independent and unattache…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 02:11 AM
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And...?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 01:14 AM
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No, women generally don't know or care about men's porn habits.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 10:43 PM
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Risky, but reversible, unlike not having children. She can always get a job or go to school later on. I think the fear of "getting trapped in an abusive relationship" is overblown and not nearly as common and unavoidable as people like to think.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 10:30 PM
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Men not marrying women or even getting into relationships with them, men just using women for sex without even pretending they want anything more, birth rate going down, both genders becoming more jaded and bitter
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 07:39 PM
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I'm fine with it. It would be hypocritical from me anyway when my best friend is a woman. So you're not fine with it. You just want to have female friends and the discomfort of your woman having male friends is a fair price to pay to keep your right to have female friends. Not all woman will give the chance Correct. I wouldn't be with a woman if I thought there was a chance she would actually give in to it. But even if I'm with her and trust her 100% that she wouldn't actually go for it, it stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 02:07 PM
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- The narrative that children are expensive - Society being more materialistic, so people not willing to allocate their funds for status symbols to children instead - Housewives being shamed - Having a housewife being financially impractical for the majority - Divorce, single parent homes etc being normal - Less marriage - Society normalizing dating into 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:58 PM
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Like wot?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:32 AM
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then look at the dude and tell him indirectly that he has no money to buy it What kind of lines would you use to convey this lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:31 AM
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A woman can be happy without male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:24 AM
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No man is going to be ok with this. They might pretend to be to appease their woman but deep down, it's killing them. 90% of "male friends" would fuck their "female friend" if given a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:07 AM
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Bad idea that will fuck the kids up. Why not just adopt a kid that's in an even more fucked up situation instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 08:02 AM
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Men are mainly attracted to looks in a woman, so it makes sense for a woman to put all her focus on improving her looks. Women are attracted to a plethora of things in men and looks isn't of such high importance, so men are less focused on their looks. It's not socially acceptable for men to use makeup. If it was socially acceptable and it made them look better, they probably would use makeup too. A woman can have an attractive physique by simply not getting fat (easy, passive). A man has to lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:33 AM
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Women reach their peak maturity much faster than men meet their peak maturity. But a man's sub-peak maturity is still often more mature than a woman's peak maturity. I don't think age gaps are something that need to be justified but your reasoning is probably the biggest positive argument for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 11:19 AM
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Maybe, but if everyone had to cite studies, then there would be like 2 comments on every post.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 11:44 AM
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Because we are giving our opinions, mainly based on our life experience and anecdotal evidence. Most of us haven't read studies or if we have, can't recall them to cite them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 11:02 AM
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How do you add the flair to your username?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 10:11 AM
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Why is a gender divide in voting evidence of a gender war? Is it not just an indication in difference in psychology between the genders? If the difference is increasing, it's probably because women are more independent whereas before, they would have just voted what their huband did.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 10:09 AM
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Maybe but no one is ever going to respect a man who needs support, and the shame of looking for that support does more damage to us than whatever help that support will provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 10:06 AM
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It's undoubtedly an important part of the puzzle - charm, game, rizz, whatever you want to call it. Especially for men. Men can't just coast by on being good looking, despite what everyone seems to think here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 10:02 AM
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Because it's subjective and can't really be measured or compared so doesn't make for an interesting debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:19 AM
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Men aren't that mad at women having standards that those men don't meet (taller, richer etc). It makes men feel bad about themselves, but not really mad at the women. Men are more mad at women when women complain how they can't find a man with standards that the men do meet (nice, loyal, patient etc) but they feel invisible to the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 10:10 AM
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Men do too, probably more so. Unfortunately morality isn't actually a very important factor in human mate selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 11:18 AM
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So if you are concerned about their happiness, you should be concerned about their success because that is likely to make them happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:54 AM
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The person who made this thread in the title...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:56 AM
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Everything in life "depends" but debating/discussing is pointless unless we speak in generalities. A parent shouldn't tell their child their happiness is wrong. A parent should do everything to set up their child for a life where they have all the tools to find happiness. When it comes to dating, you would want your (adult) child to have the freedom to choose not to date if that's what makes them happy. But you wouldn't want them to be stuck not dating because they don't have a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:56 AM
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Of course. But can you agree that success is a big contributor to happiness, and lack of success is a big contributor to lack of happiness? Not just in romance, in all facets of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:34 AM
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Everyone knows and agrees with that but they don't have it so they turn to the internet as the next best thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:30 AM
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That's basically what arranged marriages are, We just blow them out of proportion in the West.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:27 AM
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But do you not think the two are correlated?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:14 AM
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- What we were raised around / our parents dynamic - Genetic urges/impulses - Having done one and wanting the other - Insecurities from adolescence
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 04:40 AM
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Because there is a connection, albeit generally not as strong as with a loving partner
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 06:19 PM
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Lol and the truth lies somewhere in between
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 06:18 PM
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Both are true and don't contradict each other. The good ones are snatched up, leaving everyone else to take turns chewing and spitting each other out in a revolving door, which occasionally grabbing, chewing and spitting out a good one onto the pile of garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 06:15 PM
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It's an over-correction that was necessary and gained traction because the norm has pushed too far to the other extreme. These people don't actually want to live in such a "conservative" society - pay attention to their actions, not just their words. They just don't want to live in such a "liberal" society that we have today. It's a shoot for the stars with the plan of landing on the moon type deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 06:09 PM
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A recession, war or other event in the West that would cause the general public, particularly women, to lose faith in the government, their employers etc and need to turn to each other and rely on each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 01:06 PM
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Damn
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 01:01 PM
1

So being a prostitute is better than being a maid?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:49 PM
2

Damn fair enough. You're not really independent though. You're dependent on online creeps who only care that you degrade yourself for them instead of dependent on a hopefully loving, protecting, providing husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 09:35 AM
7

You'd consider selling feet pics a better life choice for yourself than being a housewife?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 09:25 AM
3

What's so bad about being a housewife?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 09:24 AM
8

Pathetic losers by the true definition of the word. If you were genuinely happy with your decision, you wouldn't label yourself a "MGTOW" or even know the term exists, you'd just be happily going your own way. But you're not going your own way. You just lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:09 AM
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Value in the dating market, not value as a person. The same way you probably wouldn't believe you were more valuable if your hair was 10% shinier or your waist was 1 inch slimmer. It doesn't make you a more virtuous person. But it does make you more desirable to the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:47 PM
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some even prefer women not be virgins so that they have some skill in the bedroom already That's cope, maybe some men parrot that without thinking it through but I don't think any man would genuinely think that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:29 PM
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i’m not “proud” of being a virgin. i didn’t do anything to earn it, That's the whole argument that red pill makes. Men have no inherent value and it's their job to build value. Women are born with all their value and it's their job to protect it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:27 PM
3

Also there's always the option of the reset button in the form of the reborn virgin No there's not lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:26 PM
6

Yes. The lack of them makes them even more valuable. Why do you think "body count" is such a big topic? If there was no value in it, "body count" would not even be a known concept/phrase. Virgins have just become so rare that they have been replaced by "low body count" girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:25 PM
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