Acceptable-Walk-3458 Archive

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1	If woman have the choice over abortion, should men have the choice over child support? If it takes 2 to make a baby Fine as long as a woman doesn't get the right to abort the kid against the Father's wishes. Either women hold all the power and they take all the responsibility, or men get a 50/50 say and he is forced to pay CS, and he gets ostracized if he ditches them	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 01:15 AM
1	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. Unique DNA isn't a person. A Fine then, if that's the verdict, pregnant persons should not be allowed any preferencial treatment, no maternal leave, nothing.It's just a clump of cells right. If a pregnant person gets killed, the murderer is not charged with double homicide. If we can't protect unborn children I don't see what's the point of having a society at all. Might as well get rid of all rules. Everyone should be free to do whatever	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/24 08:37 AM
1	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. The PL view is that parental rights should extend to unborn babies simply because fetuses are just human beings in their early stages of development. So in a way forced gestation is a form of parental support in the same that child support would be for born children. If we can't protect potential kids in their most earliest, most vulnerable stage in development it's kinda of nonsensical to wax all poetic about parental support. If children's rights matter at all, they should be protected from th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/24 07:55 AM
1	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. Sure but fetuses aren’t considered offspring. Rather convenient for the women, yet y'all cry about patriarchy. Also let’s be real, the effort involved in carrying a child and caring for child far exceeds merely providing for them financially. A child can’t actually do anything with money, they wouldn’t actually survive if all you did was send them a check every month, so already the father is obligated to the absolute bare minimum in keeping their child alive and you contest even that. Already a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 10:01 PM
2	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. I would only endorse enforced child support if it meant a woman couldn't get to use abortion as a way to get out of caring for a potential child. do you think this mindset is maybe a bit selfish and completely unfair to the innocent child involved I think aborting a child is selfish in the same way that wanting financial abortion is selfish. "fair" for the child you created? If we wanna talk about what is fair for children. Abortion wouldn't be an available option. so you find it 100% morally co…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 09:46 PM
2	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. how could abortion ever be a harmless, non-invasive procedure when the baby is INSIDE her? For the sake of argument Let's assume it's theoretically possible. can you take a moment to use your empathy to try to understand what kind of mental anguish having an abortion might have on a woman? Can you take a moment to use your empathy to try to understand what kind of anguish not having a choice in whether to support a child that was birthed against your will with the threat of jail might have on a …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 09:30 PM
1	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. Body and wallet aren’t the same One could argue abandoning one's offspring is much better than killing their offspring. Why would his wishes matter in concern to her body? I mean the choices she makes about her body are going to affect him, so he should atleast have a say. The baby however is an innocent bystander and both parents should be responsible for their body. The father did not birth the baby, the mother did. Why can't she be the one to pay for it? some level) to care for children who a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 09:23 PM
1	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. Responsibility means doing something out of a sense of duty not because you want to. So forced gestation is not that bad	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 09:06 PM
1	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. Who wants to be the parent who acknowledges they had the means to help support their child but chose not out of spite for the other parent or worse just wanting to avoid responsibility? Anyone doing so is considered a deadbeat, so they aren’t getting additional sympathy when they are trying to get out of doing the absolute bare minimum for their kids I mean who wouldn't want to do that if a kid was birthed against his will? Furthermore he couldn't even be sure the kid was his without a DNA test	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 08:45 PM
1	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. You can always choose to not have sex or get sterilized. If this argument doesn't get to work on a woman against abortion it shouldn't get to work on a man either	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 08:41 PM
1	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. You haven’t made any argument that actually addresses the reasons the state has for obligating parents to care for their own children. You just keep saying they shouldn’t have to even though all children are equally vulnerable regardless and even though most people know how babies are made. If the law is gonna wax all poetic about children and parental obligations, they should start with protecting potential children from being killed in the womb. Fetus are just human beings in their earliest st…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 08:39 PM
2	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. what is she is pro-life or simply can't fathom to kill her child? abortion is not exactly rainbows and butterflies. it is a traumatic procedure and can cause mental anguish. We could work towards changing that, so that abortion becomes a harmless non-inavasive procedure. what is she is pro-life or simply can't fathom to kill her child? abortion is not exactly rainbows and butterflies. it is a traumatic procedure and can cause mental anguish. If the mother feels her beliefs and desires were more …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 08:30 PM
2	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. Men have full body autonomy but once their sperm leaves said body and enters into another, they have consented to the consequences of distributing their sperm accordingly I thought consent is supposed to be ongoing and should be able to be revoked at any time or does that just apply to situations where the woman is not at a disadventage? I mean, a woman can revoke her consent to gestating a fetus, but men don't deserve the ability to revoke their consent? Sounds rather sexist! What men desire is…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 08:12 PM
1	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. Doesn't that just show that it's about punishing the man. Or at the very least trying to equalize the ground, since women suffer, men need to suffer too, to make it look fair.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 08:07 PM
1	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. A child has no right to be rich or poor, all a child needs is to be well taken care of by a willing parent, and one parent can do that just fine if they work smart. The Idea that you need two parents is ancient in a world of divorce. If the woman alone makes the decision to bring forth a child regardless of her partner's wishes, the woman alone should be responsible - that is fair.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 08:05 PM
1	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. I don't believe the child deserves anything more than the care of the people who decided, not just the ones who happened to be in the process of it all, but actually the ones that decided the baby was to be born. If the father wanted no part of it, and expressed it to the mother, and the mother decided she wanted to keep the baby anyways then she was the only one who decided to have a baby, and it should follow that she is the only one who should support the kid unless other parties want chime i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 08:04 PM
2	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. The outs proposed are these..Women get a 100% access to abortion for whatever reason at whatever point in the pregnancy, Child support becomes optional. The man gets to decide his own personal and financial involvement without the threat of jail looming 9ver his head. Meaning if he doesn't want it and made it clear to the mother early in advance, he gets to walk away both personally and financially and waives all rights to the child. If he wants to stay and help take care of it, them more power …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 07:52 PM
–	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. Lets say we lived in a hypothetical world where abortion was a non-inavasive, non painful, procedure... Then would you endorse financial abortion?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 07:49 PM
2	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. If a child is not mutually agreed the default should be abortion or the one who made the decision to bring it into this world should take care of it both personally and financially	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 07:46 PM
-1	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. A child that is literally 50% you. Funny this is never put into consideration when abortion is on the table. Why tf would it be in the best interest of a child to be born to a parent who doesn’t want them? Which is why if a child is not mutually agreed the default should be abortion. Why should a child be born into a world where one of its parents resents it and is forced to pay for it when he doesn't want to?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 07:45 PM
2	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. Point is this. Either both parties are given an out, or no one is given an out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 06:58 PM
1	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. The average child support payment is like $400 bucks. And that’s if the woman actually takes the man to court to get it. Which shouldn't be the case. If the kid wasn't mutually agreed, the mother should be a 100% responsible for it. This is the problem with the whole aboryion/bodily autonomy discours, you're saying it's a 100% your choice, but you're distributing the consequences of your choice afterwards when it is convenient. The ratio of choice to cost should always be 1:1. You choose x, you …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 06:56 PM
–	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. So we can force men into mandatory vasectomies then? I don't understand point of this question. But I'll try to simplify my point, so that you can get what I mean. What men desire is to have the same opportunities as women. If they feel like they want to stay and help support the child as the father, more power to them, they just want to have a choice in the matter not be forced with the threat of jail looming over their heads. If they never wanted the kid to begin with they want to be able to w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 06:45 PM
4	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. get abortion because no human can be forced by law to share her/his body with another human. you can not be forced to donate blood for example. but after the birth and after the mother doesn't have to share her body or put her life at risk, father and mother are both equal responsible for the child. With great power comes great responsibility. That's the heart of the matter. If a person decides to have a baby, in full knowledge that the person they are with doesn't want it, they should do so wit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 06:39 PM
–	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. If it's okay to force a man to pay child support, I think it's okay to force a woman to gestate a fetus she would otherwise have aborted. Consistency is key. No way we're giving one gender an out	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 06:32 PM
-1	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. Forcing a man to pay child support is an inconvenience. So you support indentured servitude? How is forcing a man to pay child support for a kid that was birthed against his will not violate bodily autonomy?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 06:27 PM
-1	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. There’s no risk of death, for one Look at the stats on workplace deaths for men then come back. forced pregnancy and birth Being forced to pay for a kid you never wanted for 18 yrs seems worse.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 06:04 PM
–	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. The child support is for the child Forced gestation is for the fetus/potential child	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 05:54 PM
–	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. He does have that choice. He can choose to not have aex, get a vasectomy and choose better partners He has vetted more thoroughly. If this argument doesn't get to work on a woman against abortion then it shouldn't get to work on a man either. Consent to sex isn't consent to parenthood/parenthood obligations	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 05:21 PM
–	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. . However either gender can be held accountable for their children once said children are born. Which is not really fair if you think about it. I would accept your argument if it meant the decision to birth a child was mutually agreed. The fact remains, the child in most cases wouldn't be there without the mother's choice, she was the final and some times the only arbiter on whether the child came into existence or not. As the final arbiter and the only one who really has a choice in whether the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 05:19 PM
–	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. If a child is not mutually agreed the default should be abortion or the one who wants should take care of it both personally and financially. That is fair. If the father wanted no part of it, and expressed it to the mother, and the mother decided she wanted to keep the baby anyways then she was the only one who decided to have a baby, and it should follow that she is the only one who should support the kid unless other parties want chime in.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 05:16 PM
–	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. If forced child support is in the best interest of the child wouldn't forced gestation be in the best interest of the fetus/potential child?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 05:05 PM
–	Debate A Man should be allowed to opt out being a father if he says it enough early in a pregnancy. You can't be against forced gestation and also in the same vein endorse enforced child support	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 12:04 PM
1	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD All I can tell you that number is very small. realise that romance and bdsm can co-exist Those two ideas seem mutually exclusive from the male pov. Most of the times when a man genuinely loves you, he wouldn't want to explore that side with you. I'm sure there's exception to every rule, but I can tell you as someone who's in the bdsm scene, most of us do it with women we don't feel that deeply about. There's this protective impulse that comes out when you love a woman. You develop a lot of inhib…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/24 08:22 AM
6	N COUNTS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Wouldn’t men wanna know if they’re good in bed if they sleep with or date a “ high”n body count on woman? Wouldn’t men wanna know if they’re good in bed if they sleep with or date a “ high”n body count on woman? sleeping with a girl whose only been with a few men and she says you’re the best she’s ever had isn’t really compliment now is it? You could be so Average in bed and not realise that way. You would want you and your partner to have good sex and have something to go off on instead of bein…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/24 04:31 AM
1	Why do players keep a harem of girls when he could easily get a girl he wants? but how are you going to show that men treat sluts worse than other women? just by saying it? It's pretty self-evident, idk why we are having a debate about this. If this sub is anything to go by, how men feel about and perceive women who sleep around is clear as day. And it's not positive. Have you been living under a rock? so you agree men do not want to be romantic? They do, only with the precondition that women can maintain this idealized image that men have of them in their heads.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/23 04:05 PM
1	Why do players keep a harem of girls when he could easily get a girl he wants? based on what? your feelings? Based on your question. Weren't you the one who said how hookups were treated exceptionally horribly? so you agree, men who want to be romantic are rare. Romantism cannot exist in a society where women are sexually liberal. Next	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/23 03:10 PM
2	Why do players keep a harem of girls when he could easily get a girl he wants? from what men say men don't even like to connect with other men Hence why they want to connect with women men who want to be romantic are rare, not the norm Only because they realized the fuckboy who does the bare minimum is what women obsess over so why would put in effort? When she could very well be blowing a dude on the 1st date? for some reason" lol it's patriarchy you've been brainwashed and it's affecting your sex life You asked a question about why men treat hookups horribly and I gave y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/23 11:24 AM
2	Why do players keep a harem of girls when he could easily get a girl he wants? patriarchy teaches men it's cool to dominate/dehumanize women so men literally get off to being mean/humiliating women men just treat themselves and other men so poorly that its shocking to women (but again, i truly believe these men would be kinder to a stranger, so there is something else to it) The real reason is most men to some degree from some form of a Madonna whore complex. At their core men, would like to find a woman they can connect to, be affectionate towards , be romantic with, and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/23 02:26 AM
1	Why do guys take it personally when women see them as a safe option, when guys end up marrying those options as well? The difference is men don't want to look down those women. Men genuinely evolved to fall in love with safe women. For women not so much. I	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/23 07:41 PM