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Its funny because anytime men try to talk about being body shamed, women usually comment on it solely to make it about how women have it worse with being shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:22 AM
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Oof
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:55 PM
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What? 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:32 AM
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You know what. I misunderstood the point of the post and came in to argue something off topic because I got lost in the sauce. My bad, g.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:53 PM
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*conventionally attractive sweet caring gathering men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:51 PM
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Sure, if you're attractice that CAN mean they don't care about anything else. But if you're unattrsctive, the only thing that would ever matter was the physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:25 PM
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Except you need to be attractive in order for them to care about anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:17 PM
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It really is just that simple though. Be tall and attractive. There's a reason the saying goes "looks open doors"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:02 PM
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Lmao, women's preferences aren't that unique
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:01 PM
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Dude, you can go through my post and comment history, typically I am pretty antagonistic toward women. But what the fuck? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:05 AM
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You say that and yet the preference for big dicks is the norm. Meanwhile the number of women who prefer small dicks has always sat at a comfortable 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:14 PM
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This whole thing is just fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:05 PM
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A well-endowed man can do all of those things to. All you're really saying is that men with small dicks can only be good if well-endowed men are lazy. Given the option between a guy who's good at oral but has a small dick and a guy who's good at oral and had a big dick, no woman choosing the first option. To be honest, women would more likely choose a well-endowed man who was bad at oral over a dude with small dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:04 PM
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Yeah, because never is the history of ever have women cheated based on a lack of attraction to their partner. The woman using someone for their money is the super duper nice exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:17 AM
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Yeah, I always kinda wished my mom would have aborted me lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:20 AM
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Yes because most unattractive men are unattractive by choice. So statistically there is a larger group of unattractive men who will stay single and lonely. Sorry. Men choose to be short? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:25 AM
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I'm a dude and I understand that women ghost because a guy getting rejected might get violent or weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:47 AM
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They really aren't lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:45 PM
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That's my point, lmao. There are no women who prefer short, unattrsctive men with small dicks. Because preferences aren't all that varied or unique.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:28 PM
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No, lmao. What you're doing is assuming your preferences are super duper unique. When they're not
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:21 PM
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Sure, so you'd date a short unattractive man with a small dick then, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:03 PM
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Then she has a sexual attraction to the money. Not him. Lmao. Ontop of that, it doesn't matter how he got rich, the point is, in this hypothetical, him being rich is the only reason she wants to be there. There's no physical attraction, so she's probably just going to cheat while using him for his money. Its so weird how you people romanticize taking advantage of unattractive men by using them for their money.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 08:32 PM
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If the difference between her wanting him and not wanting him is him being rich, she wants the money. Not him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 08:24 PM
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You can't change being short, you can't change being unattractive. There is no way to compensate the lack of physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:47 PM
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What are you talking about? The number of women who like short men with small dicks is still zero. There is no augmentation you could make that would ever change that number from zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:45 PM
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I'm not saying men date women they aren't attracted to. I'm saying that for all the grief you're giving men for not dating unattractive women, women aren't dating unattractive men either. No woman wants a short, unattractive man with a small dick. Kindness does not matter without physical attraction for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:33 PM
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What are you talking about? Lmao. Kindness only matters to women if they're already physically attracted to you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:21 PM
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I can promise you that no woman wants a short, unattractive man with a small dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:15 PM
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On a scale of one to ten? Like -5
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:58 PM
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I got you, twin
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:58 PM
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This works if you're attractive, aside from being short. It does not work if you're unattractive AND short.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:57 PM
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That's not what she said.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:49 PM
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Not without a microscope.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:48 PM
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Because I have eyes and my ex made that very clear to me and all of our friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:46 PM
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I dunno, I never measured.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:45 PM
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Sure. It happens. Never said it didn't. But the chances of it working out are significantly lower than the chances of success. I don't like doing things when the chance of success is so slim. Its just a waste of time and energy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:44 PM
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At 5'3 there's literally no point in even bothering.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:35 PM
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I promise you, no woman is getting with a short dude with a small dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:35 PM
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Pretty much. What OP means is "tall, attrsctive men have it easy" which is 100% true
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:33 PM
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Be a short, unattrsctive guy with a small dick and tell me how well you do. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:26 PM
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Lmao okay
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:53 PM
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Where do you get the idea that vanilla sex is the same effort? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:28 AM
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Because she was clearly more willing to put more effort with her ex? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:24 AM
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I said they should put effort into learning about kinky sex, and then learn some of the necessary skills for kinky sex, before asking that of a partner. Kink often requires advanced communication skills, risk assessment, and decent knowledge of anatomy, power dynamics, trauma (physical and mental), and so much more. Also, I was pretty clear that some, not all, kinks should be off limits for inexperienced players. Sure. So, Bob is in a relationship, he decides he's wants to try something more kin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 08:55 AM
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You went off on a tangent about it being entitled if men who've never had kinky sex say they want to try kinky sex. Its exactly what you said, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 07:50 AM
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Gotcha. So if they're inexperienced and want to try new rlthings, you basically tell them to fuck off, missionary only? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 07:23 AM
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? "I didn't treat him better, I just liked sex with him more than I like sex with you" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:03 AM
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As opposed to asking your partner to be okay with a life of missionary only, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:01 AM
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"Hey hun, I was this random dude's cumdump, but its out of my system now. So missionary only." Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:00 AM
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That would make total sense, if it weren't for the fact that a lot of this premise comes from the "one night stand got to hit it immediately, but the guy i like needs to wait". If kinky sex is given to a ONS but you aren't willing to give kinky sex to a long term partner, has nothing to do with risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:58 AM
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Personally I don't like kids, so they're a headache at all ages
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:22 PM
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I think its manoaphere podcast bros, they're the ones spamming out about birth rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:16 PM
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You got me there lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:15 PM
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They wouldn't compromise, they'd find someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:08 AM
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Sure, let's listen to women. Which sizes have women never shamed men for having?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:03 AM
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Women's size preferences really aren't that different, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 05:51 AM
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I think this is true for unattractive men, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 05:02 AM
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What do you mean, "what does that mean to you"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:46 AM
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This is a whole lotta nothing burger. Women don't prefer "different sizes". The vast majority prefer one size lmao. And they'll take that over oral any day
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 01:48 AM
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Not really, just about every woman would take PIV with a well-endowed man over oral
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 01:16 AM
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Not wrong, skill at oral isn't that important
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:52 AM
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Oral isn't that important to women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:44 AM
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I don't understand why people are so obsessed with women who don't want kids. Shits expensive, kids are a headache.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 11:50 PM
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I didn't say it was a defect lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 07:46 PM
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Because it is personal? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 05:48 PM
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And yout think leading someone on and pretending you're attracted to them is a sign of caring about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 12:24 PM
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So? Does that mean men who aren't complaining about it deserve to be tricked into thinking you care about then when you don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 12:17 PM
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Dating someone you know you aren't attracted to is a character flaw.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 12:05 PM
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Fucking for real, lmao. I can't count the number of times women told men that they needed to learn to get over the way someone looks. Or how many standsrds men held were labeled as "toxic"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 06:30 AM
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Right, my bad. I should have done better at the character customization menu.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:53 AM
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You're right, there were no women who were 20+ years old back in 2010.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:27 AM
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And thats still not the fault of the men being lead on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:58 AM
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Then don't date men you aren't attracted to. And if you do, realize that's your fault, your character flaw. Not the flaw of the man you've been leading on and pretending to care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:40 AM
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Women can have whatever standards they want. I'm still gonna clown on them for all the crap women gave men for their standards in the early 2010s
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:17 AM
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I mean, you can do both. Women DO have high standards. And women DO marry men they aren't attracted to for financial gain or whatever else they're using them for. I don't understand why you think its wrong to shame women for using men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 12:37 AM
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There's a reason the saying is "looks open doors" not "personality opens doors"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:38 PM
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No, lmao they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 07:33 PM
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And what happens if a guy narrows his pool down to 10 women and none of them are interested? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 02:45 PM
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Lmao, riiiiight. All men have the same standards, but women are super unique. There definitely isn't a general and very strong preference toward tall men that the vast majority of women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:51 PM
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Riiiiiiight. So when do we stop pretending that all women care about physical attraction? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:39 PM
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Right. So we just ignore the part where women will always choose someone who looks like Jeremy Meeks or has the kind of money Trump / musk have, over a nice unattractive dude? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:31 PM
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Nothing helps if you aren't attractive lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:48 PM
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"Hey guys, I know this outlier!" Remind me, do women body shame men for being tall as much as they shame men for being short?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:40 PM
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Sorry, but some people aren't compatible with anyone. There isn't someone out there for everyone. That's not how life works.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:40 PM
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No women are into unattractive men, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:37 PM
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Sure they are, just get laid, obviously! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:32 PM
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If it were up to women, men's version of venting would be "i didn't shower enough to get a date" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:26 PM
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Why would I care about anyone's experience but mine? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:26 PM
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You don't even have to be butt ugly, lmao. Just be a guy who's 5'3. Your personality or social skills will never actually matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:16 PM
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The fact that you even need to add that stipulation just tells me that social skills will never be as important as just being attractive. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:01 PM
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I think its perfectly fine for men to vent, whether women approve of it or not doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:56 PM
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Thats because alot of guys are lazy as hell. Even in this subreddit, guys are arguing that social skills are irrelevant. Social skills, Social skills without physical attraction ARE useless lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:36 PM
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This is a strong sentiment from a group of People who will never actually have to deal with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:36 PM
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Not really, it just depends on whether or not they're attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:11 PM
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Really the only thing that matters is physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:11 PM
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So, being a shitty person is a neutral quality then, not an actual negative as far as dating goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:52 PM
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Being a shitty person has never actually prevented dudes from getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:04 PM
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I see. So the argument becomes "it happened to women so its okay when it happens to men"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:50 AM
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It was 90 groups and 130 women's shelters.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:39 AM
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Lmao, I'm not debating this with you. Sure. Because eit happened in Italy, it never actually happened. There you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:28 AM
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Right. So because it happened in Italy, it doesn't count. So violence against women in the middle east doesn't count, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:26 AM
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No, but femisnist DID write an open letter demanding violence against men be censored in Italy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 11:21 PM
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Feminist organizations and individuals have campaigned against male domestic violence shelters because they felt it took funding away from domestic shelters for women. They've also signed open letters demanding censorship of violence against men in Italy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 11:20 PM
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I'm sure you haven't lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 11:46 AM
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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4558040/ https://badgirlsbible.com/does-size-matter https://ro.co/health-guide/what-size-penis-do-women-prefer/ https://www.realclearscience.com/quick_and_clear_science/2015/09/07/what_penis_size_do_women_prefer.html Here's four of the MANY studies lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 10:09 AM
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If women didn't care about size, being below average wouldn't be a deal breaker for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 09:41 PM
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Dude. You're so far above average, you have no idea whatcactual struggle is lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 04:01 PM
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Are we pretending women don't treat micro and anything below average as if they're the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:59 PM
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Are..are we pretending that there are any women who want someone who's below average? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:58 PM
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Pretty much every study on the matter agrees, the fact that size preference agrees, the fact that it isn't well-endowed men being shamed for their size agrees. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:56 PM
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And women do not describe anything less than above average as good dick. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:53 PM
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No, lmao. Most women prefer above average. If size didn't matter, preferences wouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:52 PM
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Literally no woman has ever described small dick as good dick, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:47 PM
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Right. I'm sure its just a coincidence then lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:41 PM
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No woman has ever described small dick as good dick. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:25 PM
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Good dick = big dick. Its super simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 08:40 AM
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Ugly women have more power (dating wise) than ugly men lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 03:30 PM
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No shit lol, I've never felt like i was owed sex. But I always find it odd how quick people are to dismiss any kind of venting or negative feelings about being unattractive by refraining those feelings as always and only stemming from entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:19 AM
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I think most men understand what women think of them. Attractive = good man Unattractive = bad man
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:47 PM
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And then women are even less likely to have casual sex with someone they consider "husband material"? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:32 PM
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Yeah, man totally
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:30 PM
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Sure, just less attracted to them than the men you were having casual sex with
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 02:43 PM
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That's fine, men aren't entitled to the preferential treatment you gave to previous partners, but then don't turn around and act like you aren't giving your past partner preferential treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 02:37 PM
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Physical attraction is a requirement in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 02:35 PM
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If she wasn't attracted to you before she saw what you had to offer, then yes. She is not physically attracted to you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 02:34 PM
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Yeah, man. They chose to be born with bad genes. Totally shot themselves in the foot by just not being born with a better dick size.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 06:10 AM
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What percentage of women do u actually find desirable ? Vs how much do u actually find good enough/ acceptable I have never actusly met a woman i found unattractive, but my standards are shot
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 06:00 AM
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Suggesting that men should be open to their wives cheating on them is fucking wild. Someone clearly has a kink.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 06:33 PM
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The problem is, is that when men are AWARE that women have physical preferences, we're also denigrated for acknowledging it. Like yeah. You like tall guys. So does every woman, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 06:30 PM
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Lmao. Right. So, most of my friends married plus sized women, so that's proof that all men are attracted to plus sized women, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 02:05 PM
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Oh? That explains why so many women have preferences for large while literally zero have a preference for small.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 01:27 AM
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Congrats, you know what outliers are. I'd be care ful about using words like 'dismiss', since women's go to move is to dismiss and insult short men who talk about their negative experiences. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:43 PM
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Absolutely. That's why women only body shame one size range, right? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:41 PM
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Lmao. No. That's very different. One is required for pleasure. One is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:33 PM
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Right, so a woman comes in and saying "size doesn't matter, its all in your head" while publicly simping for big dicks isn't a matter of confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:24 PM
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No, lmao. I'm going to use an example, but in SDP, women come in to lecture to tell us it's all in our heads, that women don't all have the same preference. But if you take even 2 seconds to look their profile, what they post and what they comment on shows that they don't even believe what they're saying. They just wanted to lecture people they perceive as less than.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:12 PM
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There's no amount of improvement short men could do to ever be ahead of tall men, so There's no point in trying lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:09 PM
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It doesn't matter who created the term, if both men and women use the term at similar rates. We can also rule out the whole "personality argument" since all it takes for women to immediately dish out small dick insults is if someone is driving a slightly large truck. On top of that, the vast majority of women have an issue with small dicks. The only people who believe it's a minority are women and well-endowed men. Because, neither of those groups of people have been shamed for their dick size, …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:47 PM
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As long as you're not below average, you're fine. If you ARE below average, there isn't a single woman who isn't gonna body shame you into oblivion
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:06 AM
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Sure. But then you're essentially saying "this is how men with small dicks act" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:50 AM
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That's just...never happening. Lmao. The reaction will always just affirm that size indeed matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:47 AM
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Women aren't insulting small dicks because they like small dicks, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:45 AM
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They aren't options if they're going to reject you, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:47 AM
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Such a dumb comparison. Riding a bike is a skill that doesn't rely on good genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:27 PM
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Love the gotcha. I don't chat any woman up, regardless of appearance because I already know how it ends. I don't like wasting my time asking questions I already know the answer to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:25 PM
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Again , not the same for unattractive men, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:07 PM
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Thats just untrue. Women and attractive men may have many options, but unattractive men do not
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:51 PM
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It's actually VERY easy to exhaust all options when you aren't conventionally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:46 PM
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Its funny how that gets dismissed when men are the ones being abused
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:48 PM
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Men don't have the amount of options women do, so mass appeal is the better strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:51 AM
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"Why is it so bad to be in a dead bedroom where you're just an ATM to her?"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:35 AM
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Women have been complaining about men not wanting to date plus sized women since the 2010's lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:25 PM
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I love how this sub constantly proves size matters, while denigrating men for believing size matters, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:14 AM
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Fun fact. Someone attempted one of those scams on me. It was so transparently clear what they were doing so I ignored them. If people choose to participate in something that's so blatantly clear then that's their own fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:38 PM
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Man you'd have a very strong argument if that logic was actually applied to men and women equally. But its not, since there isn't a single situation where women won't blame men for whatever happens to them in a bad relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:30 PM
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Again, are we pretending that women don't blame them for being sextorted?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:16 PM
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Yeah, so there's the problem. As far as women are concerned there will never be a situation that would be a 1-to-1 equivalency. Women will continue to insist that any negative experiences men have are solely the fault of those men because they choose to ignore red flags while insisting men shouldn't blame women for ignoring red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:08 PM
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I never made the claim that the justice system was against men. Which was her immediate response to my original comment. But you are correct. I feel about as much sympathy for womwn who choose to ignore red flags as women do for men who choose to ignore red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:04 PM
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Are we pretending that women DON'T blame men for being sextorted?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:58 PM
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So then we agree, if a woman ignores red flags and ends up in an abusive relationship, its her responsibikity for choosing to ignore those red flags
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:42 PM
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Can you please point to me where exactly i made that claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:33 PM
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Your argument would be a lot stronger if women didn't blame men for getting into toxic relationships and insisting they should have known before they got into said toxic relationship. It'd also help your argument if women weren't the ones saying they have a 6th sense for bad men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:27 PM
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You'd have to do same exact thing to attract a 2/10, so it really doesn't matter lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:42 PM
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What are you talking about? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:42 PM
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Because gas and groceries hardly seems like using a man for his money. You do understand that you aren't entitled to someone else's gas and grocery money just because you have nice tits, right
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 01:51 PM
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You mean kinda like women wouldn't get used for sex if they didn't ignore red flags because she's tall? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 01:51 PM
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Women have tried it on me, thinking that because they were sort of attractive they could get the ugly guy to pay for their gas, send them money for groceries. But I mean, if a woman has never experienced another woman trying to use them for money, i guess no one ever has. Men have never tried using me for sex, so clearly men have never tried using women for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:54 AM
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They get with a guy they don't find attractive, lead him on and make him believe he has a chance while asking for money, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:53 PM
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Women use men for financial gain, so it seems kinda equivalent to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:50 PM
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Yeah, because short men are basically women to you? Lmao. Fucking freak.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:14 PM
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No, no. You don't get it. The fact that women wouldn't date short men without celebrity level fame and fortune PROVES that they're actually very attracted to short men. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 09:39 PM
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Lmao, okay. So I guess we could say that men who use women for sex do it because ethey actually really care about the women they use
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 08:31 PM
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I'm sure their massive wealth had nothing to do with it. Money doesn't make women attracted to you. They're just attracted to the money
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 08:22 PM
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Do women tend to body shame the body types they like?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 08:21 PM
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And if you're 5'3, there is nothing you could possibly do to be attractive to women, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:43 PM
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Its a good thing I said height is an example and not the only example.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:40 PM
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If height were as un-important as you made eit out to be, height filters wouldn't be a thing because no one would use them. Most of women's preferences act as requirements more than suggestions, so yes. I would say they're mostly set in stone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:40 PM
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Yes, lmao. Height is a perfect example of that. There has literally never been a time in history where being a short dude was ever considered attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:34 PM
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You can't change women's preferences, no matter how much you change yourself, sorry. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:29 PM
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I think traits that are considered unattrsctive would negate any effort in becoming more attractive. You can't change women's preferences no matter how much you change yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:29 PM
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Sorry, you can't learn how to be attractive. You either are or you're not, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:16 PM
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Personally I'm all for listening to women. They may claim certain things do or don't matter. Butbthey'll definitely body shame those things anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:07 PM
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All of that is easy to fake. Its usually what women do when they're using someone as the safety net
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 10:27 PM
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You mean outside of your comment about TikTok being the only evidence they have? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:53 AM
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Kinda like you dismiss negative experiences because "women don't do that" or "that's never happened to me, so its never happened to anyone"? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:29 AM
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Nor are Tiktok and Instagram but that is pretty much the sole source of "evidence" for red pill these days It would sure be a shame if any men actually had this kind of experience IRL. It'd take the wind right outta this whole "it only happens on TikTok" argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 12:58 AM
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Home dawg, 3/10 women want 10/10 men, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 12:57 AM
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The fact that they're willing to use those men, lead them on, lie to them and fake an attraction that they do not have, all so they can have access to a bank account is proof that they do not care for those men as people. You are asking for sympathy from the wrong person, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 12:01 AM
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Maybe, maybe not. I can't fault her if she's consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 11:47 PM
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Yes, won't you think of the women who choose to use men they don't even care about, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 11:45 PM
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No, lmao. Because that would imply that physical attraction doesn't matter. Women don't get to know someone they aren't physically attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 11:02 PM
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If all it takes is attraction to make them aroused, they're more attracted to their one night stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 11:01 PM
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Home boy, no one is afraid of rejection. If I wanted to continue ue getting the same answer over and over and over again, and conti ually waste my time and effort, I would. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 10:14 PM
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But average men tend to be convinced that if she doesn't have visceral attraction for him, then she doesn't like him. Most women historically have never had visceral attractions to their husband. That doesn't mean a real sexual attraction was absent. It was reactive. If you need to prove to someone why they should be attracted to you, they aren't attracted to you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 10:11 PM
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If a woman is willing to hookup with a guy on a first date, knowing its going to be a one night stand, but makes the person she wants a relationship with wai, she is more attracted to the one night stand than the person she deemed "boyfriend material"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 10:09 PM
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Size queens are the most vocal about body shaming, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 10:55 PM
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That's why I said depending on the toy, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 10:54 PM
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Most women who prefer those toy sizes also typically prefer those sizes on actual men, and tend to body shame anyone who aren't up to that standard
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:50 PM
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Many women use sex toys WITH their partner, plus the toy itself is not another person nor does it represent another person Depending on what the toy is, its literally meant to replace the actual dick, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:48 PM
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Ooh okay, gotcha. I'm a dumb dumb, so thats my bad
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 02:11 AM
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Wait, so good sex is when only women get to finish? Lmao lr am I misinterpreting what you're saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:57 AM
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How often do women go out of their way to get to know men they find unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:13 PM
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Right, but for some people, having everything they could ever want, might still feel empty if literally no one loves them, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 12:50 AM
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I'm sure, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:44 AM
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Wait, wait, wait, are you saying you can’t FORCE people to like you lmao Idk exactly what kind of world you are asking for here bud Again, there's a difference between "you owe me" and "self-improvement doesn't matter". Its odd that you think think those sentences mean the exact same thing, lmao. If you really are that ugly as a dude in this hypothetical, what’s your excuse for not getting plastic surgery if it’s holding you back that much. I mean that’s under the self improvement umbrella "Why …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:22 PM
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"Here's my one example it working, versus the countless times it doesn't" Congrats, you know what an outlier is, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:11 PM
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That confidence gained (self-improvement) along with finding themselves and what they enjoy, along with a widening of their social circle (hobbies) will absolutely give them a better chance at finding someone who genuinely likes them. They HAVE to de center women by finding value within themselves And guess what? No matter how much they self-improve, if they're still physically unattractive, then women still won't like them, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:09 PM
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So the guy is also lazy and doesn't go out to meet people. Are we pretending that the outcome would be any different? If an ugly guy approached you, would you be interwsted in getting to know him? Probably not, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:37 PM
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I'm not entitled to anything, lmao. Sorry, physical attraction is a non-negotiable in relationships. And recognizing that your perosnality is not a substitute for physical attraction is not the same thing as entitlement. But I'm sure your immediate move to insult has nothing to do with the fact that you have no actual argument for what I actually said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:35 PM
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Being shitty doesn't matter, since women don't go out of their way to meet unattractive men, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:28 PM
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You should consider stand up, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:28 PM
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fixing themselves includes mental health, emotional intelligence, confidence, social skills, hobbies, intelligence, etc. And if a women don't find you physically attractive, you won't have the time of day to show any of those traits to them. Women are not going out of their way to get to know unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:27 PM
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But that's unrelated to everything here. Nice guys will hate on jocks & chads for no reason outside of jealousy and insecurity. We aren't all rapists, thank god. Maybe jocks aren't as nice as you think they are? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:43 PM
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Their fixation on dating not being fair isn’t some novel new concept, it’s just the same ole tired shit and they can’t look in the mirror and fix themselves, so they blame the world for their problems. You can't fix physical appearance enough for it to matter, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:42 PM
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Or she should pay for her own drink, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 03:25 AM
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Home dawg, if your success depends on spending money, its not you she likes, its the money she likes, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 03:06 AM
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If a woman is only staying around because you're spending money on her, she likes the money, not you. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 03:01 AM
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A very reasonable take here. Men doing this are probably shooting themselves in the foot and ruining their chances at getting laid or getting a girlfriend over like $40 on a first date. If a man's success depends on how much money he's willing to spend on a date, then i wouldn't really call that shooting himself in the foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:57 AM
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I think that it depends on who you talk to. Personally, I wouldn't do anything to protect anyone if it didn't benefit me, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:52 AM
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Homeboy no one actually believes that physical attraction is negotiable, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:50 AM
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Personally, I'm pretty fine with the gender wars, as an unattractive dude i don't benefit from men and women getting along, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:49 AM
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I can promise you the worse thing is not rejection, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:47 AM
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Fuckin' for real. Women were white knighting for Lizzo so goddamn hard it was kind of embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:40 AM
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As a short dude, I would never have to, because women aren't asking short men out, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:36 AM
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Men care because women body shame? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:09 PM
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Effort doesn't substitute physical attraction lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:54 AM
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Except you have no say in who filters you out. This whole argument only works for men who are conventionally attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:18 AM
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So, you continue to filter and filter and filter, until once again, you filter too much and no one is left. Men do not have the luxury that women do, where their dating pool is a game of pick and choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:15 AM
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Your solution only works if the women a man filters himself down to also find that man attractive, when in reality a majority of those women will have filtered that man out themselves for a variety of reasons. The man reduces his dating pool down to a specific type of women, and then that pool is reduced even further by women filtering themselves out of that man's dating pool. You can only do so much filtering before there's no one left, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:10 AM
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Men already have a significantly smaller dating pool than women, narrowing it down even further would result in almost no success, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:08 AM
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At that point you may as well never have women for friends because you don't get to choose you fall for
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:11 AM
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Women are fine with men expressing romantic feelings as long as those men follow rules 1 and 2
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:29 PM
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R.I.P.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:26 PM
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Lmao, okay. I guess I should have seen that coming. "Women have never once body shamed anyone!" I've never seen men randomly body shame plus sized women, so that must never happen either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:33 PM
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Women body shame short men and men with small dicks all the time, lmao. So again, if its okay to body shame those two demographics, then you should also support body shaming women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:28 PM
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Then feminists should drop the body positivity movement and stop harming on "toxic beauty standards" when there's nothing toxic about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:25 PM
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If your stance is not all men should be treated as if their body is beautiful, then you should also believe not all women should be treated as though they're beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:16 PM
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Would you say AOC is a feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:01 AM
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Denying it doesn't change reality lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:57 AM
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Feminists absolutely do, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:52 AM
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They care so little that they body shame men as much as they complain about being body shamed
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:45 AM
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You're lying to yourself if you actually think your partner would agree that you cheating on them is good for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:21 AM
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Yeah, I dare you to tell your partner that you cheated on them for their benefit, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:11 AM
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Feminists still uphold gender roles and strict beauty standards for men all while blaming the patriarchy for their choice in continuing to uphold those values.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:01 AM
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Aren't model kits just collectibles?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:56 AM
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If you don't get an entry ticket because you're not attractive, none of those skills even matter, do they? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:50 PM
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Even when men accept the no, women aren't that nice about it lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:47 PM
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No, because self-improvement won't matter to anyone who isn't already conventionally attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:19 AM
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Unattractive women are still just as shallow as attractive women, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:16 AM
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Kindness without being physically attractive will not get you anywhere lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:51 PM
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No I don't particularly subscribe to any "pills" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:29 AM
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Oh, I'm not attractive enough to manipulate women, lmao. I just don't feel all that much sympathy for the people who do get manipulated
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:52 PM
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And yet manipulative men are still successful, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:50 PM
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If a woman falls for the manipulation, thats her own fault, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:39 PM
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If that were true, height filters wouldn't exist because there wouldn't be a demographic to cater to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 08:41 PM
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If it increases attraction then there is an inherrent lack of attraction, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:27 PM
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Right, so you're attracted to their personality. The fact that you're preference is tall men means that even if you aren't immediately attracted to them, they still have that extra point. Whereas a short man has to put in an nonsensical amount of effort to make up for the lack of points that he starts off with. If you have to prove to someone why they should be attracted to you, then they aren't attracted to you. Being attracted to someone's personity is not a substitute for a lack of physical o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:06 AM
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Did you have a crush on him because you immediately thought he was attractive? Or did you have a crush on him after getting to know him?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 02:59 AM
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A lot of this is nothingburger. Sure, short men can get well-paying jobs, but that doesn't mean a eoman is attracted to them, it means they're most likely attracted to the money. A short man could be super funny and charismatic. But that doesn't substitute physical attraction. Unattractive women still prefer attractive men, so that would also be a waste of time, lmao. There seems to be a lot of men who are not objectivey attractive upset that most women dont view them as objectively attractive, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 10:42 PM
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Really all OP is arguing for is women using unattractive men as ATMs while they go bang attractive dudes, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 10:38 PM
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I think its odd that you believe most men would choose to be cucked instead of just not being with that woman, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 06:29 PM
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Most unattractive men, right wing or not, would not benefit from that scenario, so most unattractive men would also like to prevent it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 06:08 PM
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If there wasn't a lack of attraction, short men wouldn't have to work harder to be considered attractive lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 05:25 AM
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Personally, I'm not that interested in dating someone who isn't physically attracted to me, lmao. I don't really see why men would put in extra work into getting into a relationship where the attraction was purely one-sided.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:49 AM
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I think the problem is all of what you're saying is completely acceptable for people to say UNLESS you're part of the demographic that women don't prefer. Women and tall dudes can go on and on about how women in general prefer tall men, but when a short dude says he gave up on dating because most women prefer tall men, acknowledging the preference is suddenly incel speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 11:26 PM
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And a modicum of success would most likely build, or at least begin to develop some form of confidence. Sooner or later, the person being given a chance would succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 01:40 AM
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One is afforded a chance while the other is not, so clearly one is more important than the other
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 09:40 PM
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Confidence doesn't matter without physical attraction, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 09:07 PM
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I think you're just operating under the idea that there's someone out there for everyone. And there isn't. Sometimes it doesn't matter what you do to improve, some people will still never be attractive enough to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:31 PM
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Except, again, you still need physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 06:50 PM
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Except physical attraction is a non-negotiable for relationships, so if you're ugly no amount of conversations and interests is going to help, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 06:37 PM
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I mean, I was also against the abortion ban, I don't think its anyone's business.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:31 PM
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Thats wild, I can't really imagine wanting to make rape legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:33 PM
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You genuinely believe men would support legalizing rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:09 PM
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This is such an extreme take. No one except rapists would want this, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:34 PM
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Home dawg, physical attraction will always be the most important part of this aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:04 PM
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In what world is looking at someone a sign that you're interested in them? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:34 AM
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In some cases yes, most cases it was expected that I drop anything i was doing to emotionally support them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 01:22 AM
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I seemed to be the guy they felt comfortable complaining to about things they didn't talk about with other people, lmao. This is all past tense though, I was just bringing up a small anecdotes about women not being the only ones who are expected to manage someone else's emotions
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:10 PM
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Being friends is not the same as faking interest. If you reject someone and then immediately start holding their hand, cuddling with them, you aren't a friend, you just like the attention. I use this specific example because its happened to me more than once
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:08 PM
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Nope, I did not have that experience at all, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:04 PM
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smallboobsupremecy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:04 PM
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This is just straight up not true, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:02 PM
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I'm not sure how true that is. I had the immense displeasure of being the "safe guy" that women would constantly vent to about anything that slightly inconvenienced them. I'm not even sure where they got the idea that I was safe to vent to lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:00 PM
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As a dude who women wouldn't fuck even if they were paid to, I 100% would be totally thrilled to have women desire me that way lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:54 PM
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Because that still requires getting more than just rejection? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:50 PM
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Because they bitch about "Male Loneliness Epidemic" when they're usually the victims of their actions, but would rather blame society and feminists the consequences of their own actions. Isn't the Male Lonliness thing about men who CAN'T get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 04:32 PM
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Porn has never stopped men from dating women either, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:25 AM
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Every male leads in smut is an extremely wealthy man who's every trait is specifically above average and conforms to every conventional beauty standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:19 AM
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Yes, yes. Porn bad, men should have no outlet for their sexual frustrations.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:11 AM
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I don't think anyone is struggling to get dates specifically because of porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:04 AM
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Yeah, sounds the same to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:04 AM
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Smut is centered around women's pleasure and all the male leads follow the exact definition of traditional male beauty standards. You're just trying to separate women being horny and men being horny by making one a morality issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:01 AM
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Smut is just porn for women, its literally no different.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:56 AM
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So women who read smut are also problematic, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:48 AM
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Except you're taking this one instance and pretending like this is the usual case for instances when women cheat, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 04:13 PM
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You understand that women choosing to disregard a label because she's a shitty person, doesn't actually negate the fact that there was a label? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:40 PM
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Silly men, women don't cheat, the relationship was all in your head. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 02:52 PM
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I think we just covered the fact that women, in fact, also complain about size. Hence the whole "women only body shame men for being small"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 08:58 AM
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Yeah, thats not because men are psyching themselves out, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 08:54 AM
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Because all the things feminists supposedly oppose as symptoms of the evil patriarchy, only oppose them when it specifically affects them. Modern beauty standards are evil because they're toxic, how dare men expect women to be conventionally attractive. Also, men need to be conventionally attractive and how dare you question our preferences, incel. Body shaming is bad, unless its a short man or a man with a small dick, then if that person is body shamed, feminists have ten billion reasons why it…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 08:50 AM
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Yes, I'm sure having the exact same preference as literally every woman must make you feel very special, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:21 AM
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Do women body shame men for being well-endowed as much as they body shame men for being smaller?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:19 AM
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If part of the cause for the best sex was a size difference, no. You absolutely cannot recreate that lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:17 AM
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Learning how to stimulate the clit is gonna get you much farther than penis length. Doesn't matter how well you actually do, she's still gonna be body shaming you and not calling back if you're not big enough lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:14 AM
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If it's one rejection here or there, I don't necessarily see an issue. If they've had consistent rejection without any type of success, then i could see that affecting their self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:06 AM
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If someone already hates themselves and faces rejection, not once, but consistently without a single ounce of success, i could see them feeling that way
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:05 AM
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I'm just going off what ive been told over and over again, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 08:44 PM
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I mean, we've been told that women "just know" when someone is bad news, so i don't see how women would even fall for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 08:36 PM
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Personally, I wouldn't wanna be with someone wasn't attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 04:25 PM
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That wouldn't necessarily change the premise that those less attractive men had to put in far more work, for more likely less quality sex than a dude who's just attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 04:21 PM
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I don't think men who don't visit escorts want to date woman who sleeps with other men for money
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 10:37 PM
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Except women aren't advocating for a middle ground for everything. Feminism has been painting dating preferences that men have as "toxic beauty standards" created by the patriarchy and gender roles. And have been expecting men to change those preferences and beauty standards. Meanwhile any critisism of women's preferences when they align with those exact same beauty standards and gender roles will always be met with "incel" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 12:36 AM
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I think there's a bit of a difference between men having a fantasy, and women believing men should be okay with their partner actually going out and fucking other people
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 05:39 PM
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Yeah, I've always thought it was weird how women thought that if a man watched porn, that man should be okay with his gifting fucking other people, like that's somehow the same thing. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 05:08 PM
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Women also blame the patriarchy for modern beauty standards, while perpetuating beauty standards for men. So you can't be that against the patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 07:16 AM
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Home dawg, ive been listening to women my whole life and women are still telling me I'm wrong. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 07:14 AM
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insert generic "Nuh-uh, you!" Arguement
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 11:52 AM
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In my argument sub? I don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 07:34 PM
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Lmao, no, I'm not watching that because a couple of staged YouTube videos doesn't actually prove anything
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 12:56 AM
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I'm not watching that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 12:54 AM
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Being good at socializing won't matter if you aren't attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 12:50 AM
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Rarely. Unattractive women, also prefer tall, attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 09:59 PM
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Very rarely will you see "out of his league." But extremely often you'll see "out of her league." So lets not try and pretend like they happen at a similar rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 09:52 PM
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I do not care about the standards women are held to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 09:51 PM
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You see average people dating average people, and that proves what for unattractive people? Lmao. Talking does nothing if there's no physical attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 09:47 PM
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Women aren't going out of their way to talk to unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 09:43 PM
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Confidence doesn't matter if she isn't attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 09:36 PM
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Yeah, thats because tall offsets fat. Women in general don't find short attractive, no matter what build. So, again. Looks are the only things that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 09:13 PM
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I go outside daily. I have yet to see a short, fat, unattractive man in a relationship. I've seen plenty tall, fat men in relationships though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 08:44 PM
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Looks are about the only thing that matters. I can guarantee that there are more socially skilled unattractive men who struggle than there are socially inept attractive men struggling. People who use the same logic as you love the phrase, "looks open doors, but personality makes them stay," but completely ignore the first part of that sentence. If looks open doors, then personality only matters if you're attractive enough to open said door.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 08:39 PM
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I'm sure its just coincidence that the ones who "lacked social skills" were unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 08:35 PM
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Attractive people tend to be more confident because they aren't treated as poorly, or rejected at anywhere near the same rate as unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 08:34 PM
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Social skills and the ability to get a girlfriend are not the same thing. One doesn't require physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 07:12 PM
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Except there is zero benefit to being unattractive, so that doesn't really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 07:12 PM
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I mean, if having intelligence and wit doesn't matter unless you're already met the "physical attraction" threshold, then they don't really matter at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:47 PM
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Except women don't care about personality unless you've already met the "physical attraction threshold". You can improve your personality all you want, if you don't cross that attraction line, it won't matter. So, no. Lmao, personality is nowhere near as important as looks
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:43 PM
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downwiththetalls
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 12:07 PM
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I'd prefer one of those stories where you find out the main character is actually already dead, they're just a ghost stuck in limbo or something lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 12:04 PM
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Hero movies are a little played out tho
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:39 AM
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There's a difference between acknowledging that something is temporary and going in telling yourself that you're what you're doing will fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:26 AM
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Lmao, well I hate the journey too. The story sucks ass and the main character is a bumbling baffoon.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:25 AM
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Right, but that's a little different. If you start something, convinced it's going to fail, you're probably not going to put all that much effort into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:05 AM
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I ask myself that question every time I wake up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:03 AM
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That's why I liked being in a band. Formed lifelong brotherhoods.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:02 AM
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Shamed is better. Tall guys love to push the "height doesn't matter" because their height isn't detrimental, so let them experience it themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:26 PM
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Or just don't waste your time on it at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 09:38 PM
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If you're dating with the end already in mind, what's even the point? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 09:35 PM
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It's all the same stuff every day, work, music, and games. Nothing new. I think i got shadowbanned or something from IT, which one hand hand is fine, but also I have one less sub to argue in when I feel like arguing. Most people here use the same arguments as they do though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 08:45 PM
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Now this is what I'm talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 05:35 PM
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I would push for women to body shame tall men, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:36 PM
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Confidence, grooming, style, personality, and everything else will always be less important than being physically attractive. None of these things will ever be taken into account if you aren't attractive enough. I know people love that saying, "looks open doors but personality makes them stay," but ignore the heavy implication that doors will stay closed if there's no physical attraction, making that personality completely worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:31 PM
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Women have equated tall men to being strong and safe and short men to being weak and dangerous. It isn't just men who do it. And in a magical world, without the evil patriarchy, women would still perpetuate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 02:19 AM
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I'm saying women would keep elements of that "evil patriarchy" that they are totally fine with
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 02:17 AM
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If we lived in a magical world where everyone treated women with respect, women would still body shame short dudes and men who aren't well-endowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 01:19 AM
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Yes, yes. Men under 5'5 don't count because they aren't the majority. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:36 AM
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Can't help but notice that despite how often women on here say height isn't a big deal, every woman here still wants a tall man, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 12:43 AM
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And those men have still been rejected for being short, no amount of "nuh-uh" changes that, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 11:52 PM
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What are you talking about? Lmao, I'm 5'3. I am saying this because this is my experience. I do know more about it than you do because I lived it. I'm telling you statistics because the idea that all you have to do is just approach people is nonsensical. I could approach and continue to ask questions I already know the answer to, but what's the point? It's inevitably just a waste of everyone's time. There's no place to help because there's no fix to it. You can't change women's preferences. Ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 11:36 PM
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Except, women's height preference is an observable and probable trend. I'm sure its easy for you to call it a numbers game, knowing the vast majority of women aren't going to tell you that you're too short to date. It doesn't matter who pursues who since either way, most women will not find short men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:53 PM
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Congratulations, being tall and healthy-looking or even movie star level handsome can be a good thing especially if you go after movie star type women for yourself. The Hell are the majority of men on the internet, or women, going to do about it? Nothing. It's not relevant for normal people. I've never once dated anyone over 6 feet making 6 figures lmao. I am happily married though. The internet discourse of men doesn't reflect this typical reality. That's the problem. Except it's extremely rele…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:39 PM
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If not having something that isn't "necessary" immediately locks you out of being in the top 20%, then it is, in fact, necessary. Being short is a good example. People love to say being tall isn't necessary but the fact that the vast, vast majority of women do not consider short men attractive, immediately locks short men out of being in the top 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:06 PM
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If it weren't necessary, it wouldn't be an advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:59 PM
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Sure. If you ignore the fact that unattractive immutable traits compound. Let's say 95% of women find short men unattractive. That leaves 5%. 5% of half the population is still a big number, right? Except that 5% is spread across the world, and the world is a big place. You could go your entire life without meeting a single woman in that 5%. Look at that. You got super lucky. You met one of those 5%. But uh-oh. You have a small dick. Women don't like that. Now, that 5% decreases down to 2%. Good…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:53 PM
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The fact that the vast majority of women aren't attracted to short men immediately locks short men out from being in the top 20% no matter how hard they grind for it. Observable facts and trends seem to disprove your claims very easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:43 PM
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And if looks matter, then the vast majority of men could never be in the top 20%. You made the claim that looks matter but not in the way men think. And the claim that any man could be in the top 20% The sole fact that looks matter exactly as we both described disproves both of these claims. Since I'm describing exactly how men believe looks matter and you're agreeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:38 PM
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But again, your assertion that looks don't matter in the way men think they do can be dismissed solely based on the fact that physical attraction will always be an advantage. Confidence, personality, grooming, style, none of these things matter if there isn't already physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:35 PM
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"Looks matter but not in the way men think," If that were actually true, being tall and conventionally attractive wouldn't actually be an advantage, but they are. And that's because looks matter in exactly the way men think. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:27 PM
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And I'm telling you that I've heard and seen it plenty of times from plenty of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:09 AM
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The women claiming that men need to speak up about women being body shamed are the same women who say men being body shamed can only be solved by other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 10:08 PM
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Yeah, thats called judging their physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:04 PM
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Women would need to actually get to know someone before making that kind of judgment about them as a person. And women are so well-known to go out of their way to get to know unattractive men, right? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:42 AM
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Uh… no duh. Harder time /= impossible! Its not impossible to win the lottery. Go ahead and spend money until you get that jackpot. Tell me how it goes. I legit do not understand why men are so damn fatalist about this. THAT’S unattractive as fuck. The petty whiny baby-ness of it. If it’s so damn futile then what the hell is accomplished by bitching a moaning about it other than making yourselves even more miserable. I do not understand. Unattractive men seem to be the only ones who are acutely a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:41 AM
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So in other words, you can't even support your "its your personality," argument, so you result to childish arguments. Remind me, when did i demand a harem of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:13 PM
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That entirely depends on your definition of "plenty." If by "plenty," you mean a small minority that would settle for a short guy while still actively prefering tall men, then sure. The issue isn't about getting a plethora of pussy. The issue is physical attraction, or the lack of. You can't dismiss a massive trend and the vast majority of women just because they're inconvenient for your "actually its always about personality" argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 07:37 PM
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Women can't even get over being slightly taller than their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 06:49 PM
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Except this is kinda nonsense because a lot of what makes someone attractive is based on immutable traits, not how they dress or groom themselves. The fact that you avoid even speaking on those traits probably comes from the fact that you have no way to argue against it. Outside of "that doesn't happen, bro!" A short man with a fucked up face is going to do worse than a tall man with an average face, no matter how well the short man grooms and presents himself. In fact, we don't even have to go …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 06:48 PM
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You guys are the ones who keep coming up with every reason in the book to not blame physical appearance, so I'm not sure why you're acting like I'm the one who's not understanding something lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 06:42 PM
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I don't identify as an incel, but I am definitely a bit nihilistic. Personality only matters if your looks open that door first. I work out 6 days a week. You're out of your mind if you think that the average woman is worth sinking 50k into a possibly dangerous surgery. See 2 You mean basic hygiene? Lmao See 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:42 PM
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The problem is you're misunderstanding what "prioritizing personality" actually means. Intentionally or not, you don't get it. People prioritize personality after looks. If you're attractive and an asshole, you can most definitely talk your way out of a relationship. But if you're unattractive, you can't talk your way into one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:38 PM
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Women hand-wave publicly acknowledged trends like how the vast majority of women do not find short men attractive. Women also have a tendency to use the outliers and the minority of women who are willing to settle for short men as "proof that women don't care about height"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:09 AM
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Then what was the point of the comparison, if you know better? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 05:56 AM
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And yet, there zero women body shaming well-endowed men. Is the logic that women actually body shame men they're attracted to? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 04:38 AM
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I didn't go actively looking for it until it started showing up in my feed multiple times a day, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 03:54 AM
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I've seen it on just about every subreddit, usually painting men as insecure tools for not wearing one, lmao. Fortunately no, no one has ever asked me to wear one. My last ex took the "encourage our friends to body shame me route".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 03:53 AM
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"It doesn't happen to women, so it doesn't happen at all" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 03:44 AM
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Yes, we all know how extraordinarily common it is for men to be asked to wear fake penises You could literally just go through reddit and you'd see how this request isn't that uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 03:35 AM
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Home dawg, I don't even watch porn. So the whole "this is porn's fault" doesn't really apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 03:35 AM
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No they don't. Until you ask men if this has ever happened and they confirm it has. A man's entire attractiveness isn't located squarely in his penis. Unless you think women have no idea if they are attracted to a guy unless and until they see his dick, this is a ridiculous argument If a woman would rather fuck a plastic toy than your actual physical body, she isn't attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 03:20 AM
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My ex cheated and encouraged our friends to body shame me, to which women took part in. Just because you don't experience it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 02:53 AM
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Stop expecting to be a physically perfect or ideal person, none of us are, that doesn't mean someone can't be genuinely attracted to you. I mean, when a woman's partner isn't as big as she wants, they tend to ask men to wear fake dicks. I would argue that is pretty solid evidence that they aren't actually attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 02:52 AM
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Remind me, do women body shame well-endowed men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 02:41 AM
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Think more like bare minimum
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 02:20 AM
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Most women are size queens, anything below 6 is bad, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 02:17 AM
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People don't change, they get better at hiding who they are to get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 09:41 PM
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Lmao, and assholes don't stop being assholes once ethey make it out of high school. The idea that people suddenly start being super duper nice once they graduate is total nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 09:39 PM
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Probably because while attractive men are nice to women they wanna fuck, they don't feel the need to be kind to unattrsctive men, nor are women going to call them out for being assholes to unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 09:29 PM
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Attractive men are shallow, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 01:17 AM
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Why would I be okay with it? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:53 PM
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Its almost like trends fade out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:37 PM
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Lmao, what? I'm saying most women do it but all women are okay with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:36 PM
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I'm gonna take a wild guess and say there's no world where that actually works.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:13 PM
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It really isn't. They could watch a woman body shame a guy for his height or dick size and they'll immediately jump to "women don't do that," as its happening in real time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:02 PM
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Home dawg, women can't even acknowledge that they body shame people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 04:18 PM
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I think the better argument is that the same women who call men out for body shaming are usually perfectly fine with body shaming certain types of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 04:18 PM
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No, I do not sympathize with women about being body shamed, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 06:29 PM
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Women body shame dme first, I didn't start it, but I'm not required to be nice just because they're women. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 06:28 PM
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You're asking someone who's been body shamed by women to have sympathy for women who are body shamed by men. Let me know how far you think that'll go, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 05:27 PM
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So if a woman says to a man, or on social media that she talks with her girls and size is included in those talks with her girls, its not girl talk? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 03:47 PM
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I would love to live in your world of make-believe where women don't body shame men. Unfortunately, we live in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 03:46 PM
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I have seen many women on Reddit and in real life admit that they share details, including size.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 03:28 PM
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Except women have no right to criticize when they do the exact same thing, no its not different when you do it just because you have tits.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 03:27 PM
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Lmao, girl talk is revealing things about your partner that would potentially lead him to getting body shamed and mocked?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 02:15 PM
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"Stop the teenage boy conversations." She says as she behaves like a teenage girl, gossiping about other people's bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 02:09 PM
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"I wouldn't have hooked up with you because you're husband material" is a pretty straight forward sentence, I'm not adding anything to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:52 AM
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I mean, I'm not gonna go back through my comment history to find the many times ive debated this to prove myself, I'm just saying that I've only ever heard and seen "husband material" used as a backhanded compliment
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:46 AM
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It's literally the only phrase I've heard women use "husband material" in
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:41 AM
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Or you could be rejecting him, since "boyfriend / husband material" has been used for rejection reasons, whereas "hookup material" literally has never been used to reject anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:24 AM
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"I would have never done this thing for you, that i would have done for someone else" is not a compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:14 AM
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If thats the case, then why do women feel the need to phrase it in the most backhanded way possible? It seems more like "plausible deniablitiy" in case he takes it the exact way you meant it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:08 AM
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That's not what I'm assuming, lmao. "I wouldn't have slept with you because you're husband / boyfriend material" heavily implies that you were never physically attracted to that person to begin with, only that you liked their personality or whatever else they brought to the table. And only after getting to know them would you be willing to sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:58 AM
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Yeah, I've o ly ever heard it being said as "I'd never sleep with or hook up with you because you were husband material," And to me that just sounds like, "i wouldn't have slept with you because you're not all that attractive, but you're kinda nice and have money, so you're husband material"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:55 AM
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Except the way it's always said, always comes off as a backhanded compliment. It'd be one thing if women were to just say, "i see a future with you, and I'm attracted to you because you're husband material." Yet, EVERYTIME this conservation is brought up bywomen its always phrased as "i would have never hooked up with you because you're husband material." See how one confirms attraction, where the other implies a lack of attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:27 AM
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If her libido fizzled out, then there's no sex. So that defeats your entire argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:26 PM
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Sorry, so if 50/50 is a bad deal for women, and as you've said in another comment, if women's libido fizzled out during a relationship as you say it does, then really, you're just saying that women should be financially taken care of without actually doing anything in this "relationship"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:16 PM
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Women aren't a hive mind, but they're able to collectively agree which body types should and shouldn't be shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 03:27 PM
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With blackjack. And hookers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 07:41 PM
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Congrats, on being the first woman on PPD to ever agree with anything I've said, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 06:17 PM
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I think it's the possibility of meeting someone who will be willing and open to satisfy the woman. Orgasm gaps are a thing, so i don't blame women for being frustrated. I'd be willing to bet that if a dude was able to get a woman off, she'd be likely to go back to said dude if she wanted more casual stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 01:19 PM
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You can't heal from a wound that never closes. Unattractive men will always be unattractive men. We will always be treated like unattractive men, reminded that we are unattractive men, and dog piled when we vent about how it feels to be unattractive men. Your solution is "just do things for the very community that treats you like garbage" and its total nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 06:28 PM
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Because it doesn't matter how much "healing" unattractive men do. We're still unattractive, so at best, women would only view us as friends of convenience when those attractive men hurt their feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 06:17 PM
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Because chances are ugly men have been bullied by attractive men, so in their experience, attractive men are assholes. Women just don't really care about how attractive men treat unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 05:55 PM
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Halo effect. Most people assume good-looking men are good people, and most people assume ugly men are bad people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 04:57 PM
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Sorry, popping his baloon because he doesn't want to date someone who is trans is rude? But women popping balloons because they don't wanna date short men is just preference?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 04:55 PM
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Except all that tells me is that if the patriarchy magically vanished, women would still attempt to uphold the parts of the patriarchy that benefited them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 04:15 PM
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Except women are actively trying to change the system, except for the parts that benefit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 04:04 PM
1

Man, I'm marking thisnon a calendar, women on PPD literally never agree with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 06:03 AM
2

"Weren't want the same men, we just all want the tall attractive men!"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 12:41 AM
1

I'm so confused. Why do women expect men to date women who aren't even attracted to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 11:03 PM
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But if hating your looks is taking up that much energy, why not put that into trying to improve something? Because putting in effort for something that will never pay off, or lead to anything good is a massive waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 07:37 PM
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If the guy is short, then yeah. None of that matters, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 06:13 PM
1

Then we agree, neither women nor men should show each other empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 06:09 PM
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No, lmao you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 05:03 PM
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Sorry, but women will always choose the more physically attractive option. And no amount of "fashion and haircuts" will ever change how many women consider you attractive, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 04:48 PM
11

It doesn't increase anything if people still aren't physically attracted to you, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 04:01 PM
5

If someone only has apples, you have to give them a chance to find out if they have oranges. You're not gonna know just by looking at them. If you can visibly see that someone doesn't have apples, you aren't even going to bother getting to know if they have oranges or not. So, again, if apples decide whether or not you even get a chance, that is the only thing that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 03:28 PM
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How would apples not be more important if you can't play the game at all without apples? If you have apples and oranges, you're probably gonna win. If you only have apples, you can still play. From the perspective of someone without apples, and therefore cannot even start the game, i wouldn't give a flying fuck about whether or not you need oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 03:23 PM
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Again, no because the o ly reason you were allowed to play in the first place was because of the height, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 02:24 PM
11

Whereas if you aren't tall and attractive, you don't even get the chance. So, if whether someone is worth giving a shot, it is dependant upon how tall and attractive they are then that is the only thing that matters since it decides whether you even get to play the game or not. If a tall and attractive man fumbles, then it's just a skill issue
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 02:09 PM
3

So, in other words, your belief system is to believe women about their experiences and don't believe men about theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 01:57 PM
11

I was just in a thread where women were straight up calling short men unattractive and when I pointed it out women, including the women saying short men were unattractive, were adamantly that no one was saying short men were unattractive. If you have to be tall and attractive to get a chance, then yes, looks and height are the only thing that matters
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 01:54 PM
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Short women are the loudest about needing tall men lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 01:37 PM
10

But that short king would still get rejected for being short and none of those other things would even matter. No one is saying there are zero short men in relationships, we're saying that women are more likely to agree to date a tall man than a short man because women in general find them more physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 01:36 PM
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Because it never amounts to anything. If you put effort into every little thing, and you're still solely judged on things you can't, then that effort is nothing but wasted time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 01:32 PM
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Women do have more options, but it can sometimes seem like men just don’t wish to make an effort on the things they can change. And for someone who has repeatedly received the message that we not only can change a lot about our looks, but have almost an obligation to do whatever we can, this is irritating Because making those changes doesn't matter, if at the end of the day, you're still getting judged based on the things you can't. If the effort never leads anywhere, then the effort isn't worth…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 01:31 PM
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Again, not sure why you'd think empathy for zero empathy is something that should be worked toward
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 12:51 PM
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I don't need to wait for you to make a claim. You wouldn't have asked if you didn't feel like mennowed women empathy, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 05:51 AM
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We're in a thread where women are saying they don't feel empathy for men. I'm not sure why you think you're owed empathy in return for all the zero that women give.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 05:45 AM
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Men have been saying it's an issue. Women usually dismiss it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:03 PM
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So, if men are expected to do things that do not benefit them, at what point will women do things that benefit men, like discouraging women from body shaming men? Cause that isn't happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 03:28 PM
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You guys can't even tell other women that body shaming men isn't okay, what empathy are you talking about? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 03:24 PM
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I figured as much
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:26 AM
4

That's because most women aren't attracted to most men. Women will objectify conventionally attractive men all the time but will pretend like it's different. Being seen as a sexual being is not dehumanizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 09:50 PM
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Attractive men treat unattractive women like crap, so unattractive women retaliate by treating unattractive men like crap. Not so much a circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 09:04 PM
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What are you talking g about? Women body shame men for not meeting conventional beauty standards all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 08:39 PM
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I would imagine most women want most men to treat them like they don't exist. Especially since both attractive and unattractive women dislike unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 08:28 PM
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"Its unrealistic for a woman to lose weight, but its super realistic to expect most men to be taller and hung"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 08:20 PM
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Except you whine when men leave women that have gained an amount t of weight they are not attracted to. Women do not get to criticize beauty standards and then tell men that beauty standards that are replaced on them are acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 08:03 PM
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Women treat unattractive men like shit all the time. There's a reason women only body shame a couple of body types on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 05:53 PM
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So, asking women to maintain their weight, something that any woman can do, is unrealistic. But, demanding that men be born with specific traits that can not be changed is realistic. Lmao, alright, lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 05:49 PM
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You mean other than "just because born tall" and "just have a big dick"? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 05:32 PM
1

More power to you, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 05:03 PM
4

Or they just didn't want to hang around the girl who rejected them, who probably started talking about how much she liked someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:16 PM
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Oh, this won't happen again, lmao. I stopped staying friends with women who've rejected me. Because with you she felt safe! You’d asked, accepted a no, and now she could be close to you without fear you’d take it as her leading you on! Because of that conversation, you grew closer as friends! I think you're just giving her the benefit of the doubt because she's a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 02:51 PM
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It would be totally valid for you to express a boundary because you don’t want to. But unless your friend was shitty to begin with and really did mean to rub it in your face, I don’t see how cuddling is leading you on. It was not something she did before I asked her out, nor was it something she did with any other guy in our friend group. Neither was the hand holding. I can't think of a good reason for it to not being an intentional leading on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 02:40 PM
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This kind of a ‘you’re both right’ thing. Sometimes once you fall in love with someone, you need to heal your broken heart first. But! If that happened bro wouldn’t feel like the girl or woman did anything wrong and they’d hate to lose the friendship just as much. Okay, that entirely depends, though. I asked a close friend of mine out, she said no. I decided i wanted to remain friends, and within the week of rejecting me, she started holding my hand, trying to find ways to get us alone and cuddl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:47 PM
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Home dawg, you're going down a dialog branch that I'm unable to follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 02:18 AM
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I dunno where you got forced or compelled relationships. That is some wild ass stuff that I have never said, literally ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 02:09 AM
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Just to be clear, you believe that any time a man has romantic feelings for a woman, those romantic feelings are just purely sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 11:08 PM
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Your entire argument hinges on the person in question being attractive in some way. If that person is not, your entire thought process falls apart
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 10:45 PM
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Many men base their beliefs off of a tiny sample size. They develop crushes that leave them blind to the attention of other women. They get absolutely no sign of attraction coming from their crush and they shoot their shot after months or years of being blind. Then they believe they’re unlovable. The other women in their orbit watch this unattractive behavior and write the man off. I think its kinda odd to make such a massive assumption. Were there actually women in his orbit, or are you just ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:17 PM
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Have you dated taller men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:04 PM
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Relationships are formed on the basis of physical attraction and personality. If men stopped being physically attracted to plus sized women, then there would be no plus sized women in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:57 PM
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Are you a short man?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:45 PM
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No, but people absolutely downplay how much of a disadvantage is actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:44 PM
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OK, let’s pretend I’m a fat woman. Would I be justified in saying that I’ll never find love because fat women aren’t attractive and so I should just give up? This is not the best example since there are chubby chasers. Plus, sized women do not have issues getting into relationships because there are men who are attracted to that body type. There aren't really 'short men chasers' the same way that there are women chasing tall men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:42 PM
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The friendship didn't "end" because she rejected him. It was already over, the moment the man decided he didn't want to be her friend. He ONLY wants to be her sexual partner. If he can't be her sexual partner, he doesn't want her at all. The part that we aren't seeing eye to eye on, is the insistence that it's all always sexual and has nothing to do with how the guy in this situation feels.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:37 PM
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But see how you have to phrase it as "a woman who doesn't mind?" How come we don't say "a woman who doesn't mind that he's tall"? People want to be with someone they're attracted to and someone who is attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:34 PM
3

The red pill is bunk because it exists solely to sell men "courses" to help them get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:33 PM
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No one is saying that there are no short men in relationships. People are saying that the general consensus is that taller heights are more attractive and, in turn, attract more women than men who are shorter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:32 PM
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So, if a short man is rejected by every woman he asks, and they all specifically say that its because he is short, should he blame himself for being short? Or should he get leg-lengthening surgery so he can "improve himself"? Sometimes, people are rejected for reasons outside of their control. And, yes. Women can absolutely be shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:59 PM
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It's the rampant misogyny and conspiracy theories and pseudoscientific bullshit that is fabricated to try and explain why they have been rejected. Lmao, like what??
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:56 PM
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If someone has a history of being rejected by everyone, or even almost everyone they ask out, I don't see how opting out of dating is "running from your problems" when its been made pretty clear that women aren't interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:44 PM
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If a woman rejects someone they were friends with, they should be prepared for that friendship to end. But that doesn't mean the friendship was fake. If a guy is hurt that he's been rejected and doing all the normal things he would do with that person makes him feel worse, why should he be obligated to put himself through that? Obviously, no one is entitled to a relationship. If someone isn't feeling that way, then that's that. But it goes both ways, no one is entitled to friendship, and if cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:39 PM
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No, I just point out that they have those standards, so its a waste of time to even bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 11:16 PM
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All you have to do is say that you gave up on dating because you don't meet those standards and you'll get called an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 11:11 PM
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I would like you to picture a world where absolutely no one found you attractive, and during any attempt to form a romantic connection, you are reminded that you are unattractive. Is it really all that surprising that some men find this upsetting?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:43 AM
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Hey, at least one woman will acknowledge the height obsession, i guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:03 AM
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I mean, if it's enough women, then the generalization applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:53 AM
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To be honest, none of what you said really applies to me, since most women's preferences aren't that varied so approaching women would be a massive waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:52 AM
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There's a difference between "i would but he's an ass, so no." And "No, but he's super sweet...so no."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:15 AM
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Women also insist that there isn't a height obsession, despite every study on the matter saying otherwise. So you'll have to forgive us if we don't immediately believe what you say, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:14 AM
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If a woman like that approached me, I would assume she had less than good intentions
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 02:04 AM
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If a woman is "sacrificing" then she probably cares about sex. Women who don't care about sex wouldn't call it a sacrifice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 09:50 PM
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I see. I got lost in the sauce somewhere, my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:36 PM
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I think you're talking about sexual compatibility, not attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:25 PM
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"Sacrificing" physical attraction is also a personality flaw. A woman who "sacrifices" physical attraction will grow to resent her partner for the choice that she made, because its somehow not her own fault, and her partner will inevitably pick up on the fact that she isn't actually attracted to him and will also end up resenting her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:08 PM
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Except women who "sacrifice" physical attraction just end up cheating, so they never actually loved the guy they "sacrificed" for in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:02 PM
1

I guess so. But I don't really look all that much
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 04:23 PM
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No. But I also stopped trying to date because I am also unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 02:54 PM
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It may as well be, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 06:09 AM
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They get with him for his looks So if someone is unattractive and can o ly afford to impress people outside of his country, he should just stay single for the rest of his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:54 PM
1

And how many women do you know would be okay with someone who could only afford a 300 dollar car?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:34 PM
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So would you shame a man who buys a 300 dollar car because thats in his pr9ce range?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:22 PM
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There are plenty of women in your home country who will use men for their money. There is no difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:05 PM
2

The specific example that I was speaking about came from a woman who did participate in hookup culture and felt the need to tell her husband that she wouldn't have hooked up with her. You're the one who chose to change the demographic i was speaking about. Ok, but you’re still all hung up on women who hookup, and have no interest in those who don’t. 🤷‍♀️ It’s no skin off my teeth if you don’t want to self reflect why that is. I have no interest in either because in not trying to date or hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 08:28 PM
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Except these exact things also come from women who did participate in hook up culture. So my argument still stands. You believe what you want to believe because you don’t like relationships. Enjoy your life eternally Tinder swiping. I’m sure it’s very fulfilling. I don't use dating apps. Or hook up apps. But I'm sure that version of me that you made up is very upset about this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 07:39 PM
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Your boyfriend is an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 07:37 PM
2

There was a recent post in confessions or AITH, and this exact this was brought up because the wife said she wouldn't have hooked up with him. It seems like something like this is said: "Anytime * boyfriend or husband material is brought up, and it seems like everyone who jumps to villianize men for feeling a certain way about it ignores that part. If a woman tells you that she wouldn't sleep with you outside of a relationship, she's telling you that she doesn't find you as physically attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 07:16 PM
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I am literally the most unattractive man alive, with the IQ of a dead rock. And i still wouldn't stay with a woman while she was fucking other dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 12:55 AM
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I'm very confused
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 07:56 PM
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I immediately skip dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 04:37 PM
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I think there are a lot of self-aware men who have said someone was too attractive for them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 03:28 PM
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Thats why I said the vast majority and not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 12:28 AM
2

4'10 women still want 5'11+
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 12:21 AM
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Ah. I see. Just don't be 5'3, and you'll be fine. Makes sense, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 11:25 PM
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Nope. I only want the best of the best. And the best of the best is going to look different for every woman . I'm sure it's just a coincidence that the best for the vast majority of women includes being taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 11:16 PM
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Which man is most likely to have a chip on his shoulder? We obviously know the answer to that. But, chances are unattractive men have earned the right to be assholes, since people tend to be assholes to them first, especially attractive men. Whereas women will never point out poor behavior in an attractive man, and take it personally when unattractive men point out that being attractive is not synonymous with being a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:38 PM
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Let's face it, women have blinders when it comes to asshole behaviors from attractive men, which is why it gets pointed out more than unattractive men being g assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:29 PM
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Obviously, unattractive men can be assholes, but it doesn't really need to be pointed out when women only ignore asshole behaviors when the man is attractive enough
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:25 PM
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That's not even remotely true. Growing up, most of my friends were women, and I got hugs almost daily from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 07:34 PM
1

If they're invisible, there was no attraction, no attraction means charisma doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:06 AM
2

Except. Again. That whole "charismatic personality" doesn't matter if they aren't conventionally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:59 PM
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So again. Charisma isn't the deciding factor, its physical attraction lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:52 PM
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Its real easy to prove that charismatic has nothing to do with it, if charismatic doesn't help someone who isn't conventionally attractive lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:48 PM
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I don't approach women. Your standards are pretty much the same across the board, so it's a waste of my time. But, let's not pretend like the only reason you're fine with it isn't because you know you'll never have someone treat you like crap just for approaching them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:33 PM
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Interrupting someone's day is so incredibly vague. "You approached me at a social gathering, which resulted in interrupting my day, fuck off!" I'm sure you have lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:05 PM
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All you have to do is be unattractive, and women will either not be all that kind or perform a mocking kind of "kindness"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:04 PM
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So how would you suggest making friends if approaching people you don't know is unacceptable in any situation? Lmao And I'm sure those whole 2 rejections were real harsh for your ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:56 PM
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Rules one and two. You don't really even need to be all that charismatic lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:53 PM
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Its funny because women only think this way because they aren't rejected anywhere near the same amount as men. I would also call it a bit hypocritical to shame men for snapping at you for mocking them. In what world do you deserve to treat someone like crap and still expect them to be respectful of you? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:50 PM
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No, women just aren't as kind with their rejection as they think they are. Or behave in a way where the "kindness" is blatantly mockery
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:13 PM
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*and be attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:25 PM
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It's not that it contradicts my worldview. It's that "women don't do that" contradicts the most common observable preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:55 PM
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These are the same women who say height doesn't matter, so you'll have to understand why I don't believe them. Especially when you consider how many women think 6-7 inches is average.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 09:54 PM
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How about the "women don't do that" argument that every woman makes, despite countless examples of women doing exactly that? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:52 AM
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Hey, if that's how you choose to interpret that, then go ahead lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:44 AM
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I'm sure the same people who constantly lie about height are absolutely telling the truth about dick size.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:36 AM
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100%. If a woman is talking about her partner and he isn't 6+ inches, she isn't saying anything kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:28 AM
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I'm short and unattractive, women do not approach me lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 10:40 PM
1

No, the average is still 5 - 5.5 lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 06:02 AM
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No it isn't lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 04:11 AM
2

No, instead you tried to get everyone to feel bad for men who are well endowed by pretending that they struggle as much as men who aren't. Which, according to your own sources, is an absolute joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 02:37 AM
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No there isn't, lmao. Its usually a backhanded compliment. "Yeah, his dick is small but he's good with his fingers!"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 02:19 AM
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Yes. Multiple people have used poor reasoning to justify why only negative things are said about one size and only positive things are said about another.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 02:01 AM
1

Remind me which size women tend to insult the most often, and remind me how often women treat well-endowed men as poorly as they treat men who aren't?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 01:44 AM
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"Just be above average and you'll be fine!" Man, way to prove me wrong. Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 01:43 AM
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No, lmao. Only an extreme minority are okay with smaller sizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 01:30 AM
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Yes, I saw him pretending like well endowed men struggle as much as men who aren't well endowed lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 01:16 AM
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"You don't get it, as a kid i was totally worried, I mean, now I have the size that the vast majority of women prefer, but I know the struggle!" Fucking christ lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 12:49 AM
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For the same reason we ignore you when it comes to height. You can say it doesn't matter all you want, statistics and observable trends tend to say otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 12:44 AM
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Because on the last post, a bunch of women were calling 6-7 inches average lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 12:40 AM
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Oh won't you think of those poor well-endowed men that the vast majority of women prefer? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 12:39 AM
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Won't you think of those poor well-endowed men that the vast majority of women prefer? :(
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 12:37 AM
4

So essentially, your entire comment is just you saying you don't actually know the struggle, and in order to win internet points, you're going to pretend to?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 12:34 AM
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Lmao, sure. Except the people she encouraged to body shame me were my friends too and that didn't stop the women in our group from joining in on body shaming me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 09:06 PM
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My last ex cheated, body shamed and encouraged our friends to body shame me. But sure, women don't care at all lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:55 PM
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Yes, yes. I'm sure its all a coincidence that women never have anything negative to say about well endowed men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:54 PM
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I was pointing out that your experiences as a guy with a big dick doesn't not apply to men who are not well endowed. Fingers and tongue don't matter if a woman isn't interested in your size lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 07:46 PM
1

So you have no experience with sex and no experience with having less endowed equipment. But you're insisting that you know better than men with experience in both? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 07:40 PM
0

It must be nice to live in a world where it's only a coincidence that women only treat men who aren't well endowed that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 07:36 PM
1

My last ex cheated, body shamed me and encouraged our mutual friends to body shame me. Women absolutely care about size lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 06:01 PM
1

Well for one, the only people who argue "women don't do that" are men who are well endowed and women, you know the people who wouldn't be negatively affected by this kind of body shaming. Two, if you check out smalldickproblems and bigdickproblems, you'll very clearly see a pattern of one size being treated extremely poorly by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 06:00 PM
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I don't lmao, I'm just tired of listening to people insist that "women don't do that" based on the experiences they would have never had in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 05:57 PM
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You can when the experience is extremely common lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 05:55 PM
1

No more than the bias that you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 03:57 PM
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Yes, yes. Women would never. Thats why if you go onto smalldickproblems and bigdick problems, only one of them talk about how poorly they've been treated by women. We can do this whole "its never happened to me so its never happened to anyone" thing all you want, it isn't gonna change the reality of what actually happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 03:53 PM
2

My expefience says other wise lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 03:51 PM
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I'm sure that explains why any time women talk about big dicks, its always positive and any time women talk about small dicks its always body shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 03:50 PM
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"As someone who's never experienced how terrible women can treat men who aren't well endowed, i can confidently say that it doesn't happen!"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 03:48 PM
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The subreddit about small dicks is used specifically to vent about how poorly women have treated them. The subreddit about big dicks is used specifically to brag about how well women have treated them. Next bad question.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 03:46 PM
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"It's DoEsN't WoRk!!!!!" This also works when you ignore the part where women are only praising one size as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:50 PM
1

Absolutely. Plenty of women find tall, conventionally attractive men to be extremely attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:46 PM
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Sure. If you ignore the part where women are only body shaming one size, only praising one size, only implying that one size has to make up for their lack of size. And if you ignore how many women ask men who aren't well endowed to wear dick sleeves. If you ignore a lot of stuff, the parent comment is right.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:44 PM
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Sure, if you turn off your brain and ignore the part where they only body shame one specific body type.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:41 PM
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And I'm sure its just a coincidence that women never body shame well endowed men, right? Has nothing to do with a clear preference? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:40 PM
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No. It can't. Either you want us to believe what women say, or you only want us to believe what you say
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 12:47 PM
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When an experience is so common amongst a certain group of people, it's absolutely a generalization to make. Go to smalldickproblrms and big dick problems, and you tell me how often both sides talk about being treated poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:46 AM
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"Believe what women say" "Just because a woman says something doesn't mean its true!" Pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:39 AM
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Ohh women don't body shame men? So my last girlfriend who cheated, body shamed and encouraged all our friends to body shame me. Does she not count as a woman? Or how does that work? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:36 AM
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Everything. Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:05 AM
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Anytime women say "women don't do that" you can pretty much guarantee that the majority of them do. The debate about height is another really good example of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:05 AM
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"As a man who's never had this problem, I know exactly how it works" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:04 AM
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And I'm sure it feels amazing to know your partner would rather be with someone who's bigger lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:49 AM
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Total nonsense. Women brag about bagging a well endowed guy. You know that. The only time women have anything to say about men who aren't well endowed is when they're body shaming them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:41 AM
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Literally the only time women talk about men who aren't hung is to body shame them lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:37 AM
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I'm calling fiddlesticks. The only time women talk about men who aren't hung is to just body shame them
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:35 AM
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I wasn't implying that was what her or her friends did, I was more so clarifying my experience. In that if women only speak to me when they need to whine about their relationship problems, then they aren't really friends. So I don't feel all that bad when I tell them bluntly that I don't want to hear about it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 08:47 PM
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Lmao, I didn't misread anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 08:43 PM
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No, because you can't blame it on being a bad person when it clearly hasn't stopped most people. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:50 PM
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This is how most women used to talk to me, but for the most part it was a daily thing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:49 PM
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Sure, sure, which part of the sentence "I'm 5'3" screams agnst?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:50 PM
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So, just out of curiosity, if a woman enjoys talking to you, asks your height and immediately ghosts when she finds out you're 5'3, which flawed personality trait did she sleep from "5'3"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:46 PM
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Sounds more like "it hasn't happened to me, so its never happened to anyone" logic coming from your side lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:34 PM
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It really isn't. Physical attraction is the reason a vast majority of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:18 PM
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Plenty of physically attractive dudes are terrible people are still in relationships, so let's not pretend that personality is the reason lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:09 PM
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Which is why I have no problems telling them to shut up lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:03 PM
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If the only time you talk to your friend is when your boyfriend hurts your feelings, you probably shouldn't be too surprised when that friend gets tired of you lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 01:10 PM
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Thats nice and all, but if the only time you're interested in talking to your "friend" is when your boyfriend hurts your feelings, then it wasn't really a friendship to begin with lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 12:42 PM
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When all they do is whine about their relationship problems, I'm less inclined to care
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 12:40 PM
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When they started talking about their relationship problems way too much, yeah lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 12:40 PM
1

Oh no. It was not talk about sex. Just whining whenever the guy they like didn't return their feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 05:10 AM
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So when you said "obviously" when someone said you need better friends, what exactly are you saying? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:59 AM
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Don’t know what to tell you, but if she telling you about her fuck buddy boy toy you went in too homosexual pilled and your one of the girls. And this is coming from someone who is a bit woman brained myself. I dunno. I've been pretty open about telling women to shut up when they start whining about their fuck buddies or relationships lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:48 AM
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So they're a bad friend for not sticking around after you rejected them. Are you also a bad friend for rejecting them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:47 AM
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This is almost never how it plays out unless the dude is attractive. If you arent attractive, you're basically just a free therapist anytime her new fuckboy hurts her feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:28 AM
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Or, she should just accept that the friendship is over?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:27 AM
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I was gonna say this. Its so weird the way women just...expect men to stick around after being rejected? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:26 AM
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Literally, everything you've listed are major signs that she's not attracted to you and would rather be with someone more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 11:10 AM
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I mean, women as a whole don't have empathy for short men, so that hypothetical doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 03:13 AM
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So, this is my own fault and being a total baffoon. I should have specifically clarified that I was only speaking to the single mother portion of the claim. No one deserves to be abused for any reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 03:13 AM
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I don't see the problem, tbh. Women are always talking about how men are single because women can just tell when someone's a bad person. But they can't seem to make that distinction when the guy's attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 11:03 PM
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Men saying they wouldn't date a single mother isn't demolishing, humiliating or insulting lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 08:55 PM
1

I have never paid for OnlyFans, never watched OnlyFans. Please tell me how I perpetuate the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 04:51 AM
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Women as a whole land between "paternity fraud isn't a big deal because it doesn't happen to women" to just straight up supporting paternity fraud.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 08:45 PM
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It really isn't because we aren't talking about how often it happens in Sweeden. You are making the claim that it rarely happens. A decreasing amount in one country is not indicative of it rarely happening. Just because it doesn't happen to women, does not mean that it doesn't happen at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 08:37 PM
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Paternity fraud decreasing in Sweeden is not proof that it's rare. It's far more likely that you're downplaying an issue that you know women will never have to deal with, so to you, it's just not that important.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 08:25 PM
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That's nice, but that doesn't really change my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 06:02 PM
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I said "if enough men have this exact experience"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 06:02 PM
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Because that's what women tend to turn it into.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:59 PM
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That doesn't chang ethe experience of unattractive men, though, does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:59 PM
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Not wanting to be a personal therapist for someone who isn't going to care about your struggles is not misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:57 PM
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Did I say "all men"? Or did I say "enough men"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:56 PM
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Not being friends with women is not myoginistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:50 PM
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I would argue that as a woman, you don't know what most men experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:44 PM
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If enough men have this same exact experience, its probably not because we're all running into the same exact women, its more likely that this is just how women treat their guy "friends" who aren't attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:39 PM
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I was younger and stupid. I mean, I'm still dumb. But I just wanted someone to like me, so I kept trying. But they eventually got cut out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:37 PM
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I've had zero support from women outside of a few examples in high school. And that was high school so it doesn't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:01 PM
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Listen, I know you're looking for your gotcha moment, where you can blame me for the women i was being supportive toward, not supporting me in return, but I'm not gonna play that game.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:00 PM
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I'm gonna use an example of something I used to deal with a lot. I used to be friends with mostly women. Anytime we hung out or spoke or they texted me, it was to whine about their relationship or the guy they wanted to date. If i were to ever say anything about my love life, I would be told that they weren't my therapist. When my cat died, none of them checked in on me, and when I reached out, they changed the subject to their love life. When I was misdiagnosed with lukemia all they wanted to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:50 PM
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Or they just know they'll never get the same support women will demand from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 04:38 PM
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How accurate are those studies? Men are typically shamed for not raising children that only exist because this wife cheated. Most men aren't going to openly admit to something they're going to be shamed for.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 03:45 PM
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Sure, if you ignore the women who claim its all personality anytime any man claims he's too unattractive for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:28 PM
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Hey again, when you can actually explain how women ghosting after they learn a few numbers is my fault, I might take you seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:50 AM
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Oh no. My attitude bothers people who aren't physically attracted to me? Whatever will I do?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:34 AM
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Lmao. Right. Because the fact that women are ghosting after they learn how tall I'm not is proof that that I'm the problem. I'll give you one thing. Women are really good at playing the "women don't do that" card.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 11:04 AM
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Women on average are about 5'4. I'm 5'3, most women are taller than me. Go on. I'm still waiting for the fix.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:10 AM
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Sure, fix height without an 81k surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 12:16 AM
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Fortunately, it's not really my problem
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 10:31 PM
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Yeah, I'm not advocating for violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 10:23 PM
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They want to blame women for their lack of romantic success by claiming their lack of success is 1) due to the inherent nature of women; and 2) largely based upon factors they have no control over (such as height), If women consistently ghost you the moment you tell them you're 5'3, what exactly am I supposed to be taking accountability for?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:56 PM
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Plenty of men who hate women get laid without violence. Let's stop pretending that it's their personalities when it's just physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:54 PM
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So you want men to care about your problems but you want men to stop talking to you about theirs?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 08:51 PM
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My original argument was that it's arrogant to criticize someone for having issues that you have literally zero experience with. And then your poor logic was you coming in with some nonsense about government mandated women? Please explain like I'm 5 how this made up argument you've formed in your head correlates to what i said.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 05:54 PM
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Lmao whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 04:33 PM
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This whole thing started because you and OP are crying about the ugggos venting. So maybe let's not act like you're getting one on me for "crying" about your poor logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 04:32 PM
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That's nice and all. But, people venting about not being attractive doesn't hurt you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 04:30 PM
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Then quit trying to dictate you is or isnt allowed to vent and focus on your own issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 03:43 PM
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See how you have to make up an argument that I didn't make in order to pretend like I'm the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 03:37 PM
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No one is saying they're owed anything. Men venting about shallow women have nothing to do with feeling entitled. You aren't just stating facts. You're trying to brag about being better just because you were born the right way while pretending that it's a moral failing to have been born without good genetics. Because if you really didn't care, you wouldn't be whining about men who vent about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 03:35 PM
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I'd argue that it's super easy for someone who doesn't struggle in that aspect to say. I'd also say it's incredibly arrogant for you not to face any of these difficulties while criticizing those who do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 03:24 PM
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Most "low value" guys are only low value because eof their physical appearance. Not much you can do to fix that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 03:15 PM
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There really isn't lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 04:37 AM
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I would argue that saying you've been rejected because women don't think you're attractive isnt assigning blame. It's stating a fact. It's not my problem when women always seem to take it as a personal attack.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 12:57 AM
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Probably more like "women have been telling me I'm ugly my whole life" and then other women just dismiss that lived experience because they've never experienced it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 08:36 PM
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Yeah, I cant believe they'd just choose to be born unattractive. Who does that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 08:35 PM
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He's not telling them to be quiet about it though, he's saying to accept the reality of their situation instead of trying to place blame on everyone. He is telling unattractive men to essentially be grateful that no one will ever love them. Nothing wrong with complaining but placing blame doesn't do anything for anyone. Nobody is to blame. It's the exact same advice men give to women here, you have to realize you're not some prize and everyone else is wrong and a bad person for not wanting to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:57 PM
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Then there's no reason for OP to whine about it. It doesn't affect him. It doesn't affect women. Let people vent about feeling a certain way without being a dick about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 07:41 PM
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Those men were already unappealing to begin with. So it changes nothing. Them bitching doesn't affect themselves, so you don't care about that. It doesnt affect women because women don't care whether unattractive men like them or not, so you don't care about that. So how does this affect you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:48 PM
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My stance doesn't matter. What matters is that I know why you're doing this. You're worried that if ugly men bitch loud enough, it'll affect attractive men's dating prospects in one way or another. It may make men look bad as a whole. And you believe that ugly men have an obligation to make sure that doesn't happen by being nice and quiet when being told they should give up because they're too unattractive to be loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:00 PM
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Sure. I absolutely could. But chances are there's nothing either one of us is going to say that's going to change the other's mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 03:59 PM
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Yeah, I know you weren't talking about me, I'm just using myself as an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 03:55 PM
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Oh, nothing. Just making a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 03:53 PM
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"Well actually.."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 03:52 PM
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And how much does it affect you, knowing that some men don't like women due to being excluded for things outside their control?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 03:51 PM
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How much I bitch doesn't affect anything, so why not bitch a little bit?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 03:49 PM
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It's fun watching men who are successful try to dictate how men who aren't should behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 03:35 PM
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So at the end of the day, you would also admit that the only thing that really matters is how physically attractive someone is?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 02:48 AM
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Sorry. I'm like a -5 IQ, what is an "n"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 01:32 AM
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That is still a very different answer from "women don't do that"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 01:07 AM
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I'm not advocating for settling. I'm pointing out that how much interest a man shows a woman takes a back seat to how attractive he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 12:35 AM
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Do lesbians not partake in hookup culture? Do taken women not cheat? Most single women have taken part in hookup culture in one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 12:34 AM
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I'm saying they'd take a lukewarm attractive man than an interested unattractive man. So it's still their own choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 12:28 AM
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According to all the women who complained about not being able to turn a hookup into a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 12:19 AM
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I know that's not true at all lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 12:11 AM
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Most women are fine with hookup culture as long as the dude is attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 12:04 AM
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Let's say, maybe 2% of women will have a "preference" for shorter men and 98% have a preference for taller men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 03:00 PM
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My interest is to not be someone's pay pig while they go fuck other men? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 11:09 AM
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Yes, attracted to means physically attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 10:19 AM
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No, but I don't need to fuck basketball in order to wanna be around baseball.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 10:18 AM
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"Just pay for my dates with other men and maybe I'll sleep with you"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 10:16 AM
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Alright? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 10:15 AM
1

Yeah, only children enjoy music
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 10:14 AM
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Yeah, and anyone who does that is an idiot. Them goth women are to die for.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:47 AM
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Prepare to be more disappointed than my mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 12:20 AM
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Hey man, self awareness is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 12:16 AM
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Oh. Yeah, so just the same standards? Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 11:50 PM
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I'm sorry. My IQ is like -5. What are you trying to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 11:48 PM
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I like that you confirm that the majority of women want tall men but still insist that it's varied.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 11:24 PM
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Notice how I said the vast majority and not all? Yes. An extreme minority of women will date short men. But the fact that the vast majority has one standard is proof enough that their taste isn't remotely varied.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 11:22 PM
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Women's taste is so varied that only the vast majority of them like tall men lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 11:16 PM
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But here is the amazing thing, women’s tastes are usually more varied then men Thats just straight up not true lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 11:12 PM
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Both. But I always sucked at writing music lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 09:14 PM
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I want money and albums.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 07:35 PM
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Most celebrities aren't all that attractive. I knew a bunch of alt girls that blow them out of the water lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:41 PM
0

Agreed. If someone rejects you, just stop talking to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 03:38 PM
1

How well endowed their partner is is the determining factor on whether it's "alongside" or "instead of"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:55 PM
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Sorry, no. Women are not telling well-endowed men, "Please just use toys, please don't use your dick" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:48 PM
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Oh, that last sentence was unhinged. I may have just been lucky enough to miss those comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:33 PM
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I don't think you do, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:33 PM
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I will counter this example by saying that males who are able to express positive qualities associated with both sexes tend to be the most desirable individuals. Men who are attractive and possess those qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:02 PM
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Your entire argument only works if you ignore the lived experience of most of these men have.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 06:00 PM
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I don't think criticizing women who use men for their money, or criticizing women who cheat, or criticizing women who expect unconditional emotional support while offering nothing in return for their male friends is hate either.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:59 PM
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Lmao. Yes. You've stated that you think it changes things. Better?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 08:48 PM
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And I've addressed why it doesn't change anything. Women were already doing g this without the help of the app.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 08:28 PM
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"These settings will make it easier for people to find those who match their preferences - which will lead to more matches and eventually more dates" Women were already doing this sort of filtering themselves. Women were already not dating short men off Tinder. Giving them the ability to do so through the app makes the number of women dating short men go from 0 to 0. So again, it changes nothing. Furthermore, this helps women. Your claim was that this helps men. It doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 07:38 PM
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You didn't. Women were already filtering out short men themselves. This changes nothing and improves nothing for men who aren't tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 03:55 PM
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Most people who have to work for what they want are better people than people who don't have to put in effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 12:13 PM
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Thats a lot of projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 11:50 AM
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Women, despite all the name calling and instance otherwise, care about height. Why do we continue to act surprised, and why does OP think this filter changes anything? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 11:42 AM
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And none of it would matter if they weren't attracted enough to talk to you in the first place tho lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 01:58 AM
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You can't personality your way out of being unattractive lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 01:55 AM
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No, I think you painted a pretty accurate picture the first time around lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 01:55 AM
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Strange how that never works in reverse though, isnt it? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 01:23 AM
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Then why do you always disagree when men point out that the issue is typically an attraction issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 01:22 AM
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If the way to get someone's attention is by being physically attractive, it is the only thing that matters
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 01:01 AM
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So you believe that physical attraction plays absolutely no role in romantic and sexual relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 01:01 AM
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None of those things matter if a woman isn't physically attracted to you. Hard to take accountability for being born unattractive lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 12:55 AM
1

"I've seen guys with pocket rockets please me with toys," so as long as a man who isn't well endowed doesn't actually use his dick, size doesn't matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 12:54 AM
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If i wanted to feel worse about myself, I definitely would lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 08:43 PM
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So as long as men who arent well endowed use anything other than their dick, it doesn't matter? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 08:42 PM
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I had one of my coworkers invite herself over to my apartment once, I said sure. She got drunk and wanted to sleep together. I said no (which i am still kicking myself for) and slept in the living room. Literally, the next day, she was telling our coworkers I was a massive asshole. Fortunately most people didn't believe her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:39 PM
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Or he's just tired of only being spoken to when she needs a diary.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:46 PM
5

I would argue that using every conversation to whine about your boyfriend or the guy you wanna fuck, is in fact, using your friends as free therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:43 PM
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All of my friends married plus sized women. And all the us sized women i k ow are in relationships. That is proof that women are rarely, if ever, rejected for their weight, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 03:52 PM
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I think it happens more often than you think it does, and you're relying heavily on "it hasn't happened to me" as a way to insist it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 03:41 PM
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I'm not sure where "i don't want to be a personal therapist at all times" equates to hating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 03:31 PM
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I think you missed the point. You not experiencing it, is not proof that it doesn't happen. Because I have experienced it, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 03:25 PM
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This idea that women are just calling up their friends and complaining to them about their boyfriends and asking them to "play therapist" just simply isn't rooted in reality. I don't know about you, but I base my opinions on my experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:57 PM
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Most women, in my experience, have expected unconditional emotional support from their friends, and with men, the rarely, if ever, return it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:56 PM
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Okay? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:34 PM
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I think most men don't have women as friends because they don't really want to play personal therapist all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 01:26 PM
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Nope. Women don't marry someone and act bored unless she isn't attracted to him. Women don't marry men they aren't attracted to unless they're using him or trying to make the dude who rejected her jealous.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 09:50 PM
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*wife who settles because the guy she wanted didn't want her. Fixed it for ya
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 09:35 PM
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Right... Anyway, like we agreed, standards for men haven't really changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:48 PM
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From ripped.. to ripped? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:45 PM
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Standards have changed for women, not so much for men. There has literally never been a point in time where being short was the standard or even more than just a small minority preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:25 PM
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Every time I've opened up about my ex cheating, body shaming and encouraging our friends to body shame me, the most empathy I've gotten from most women has been "women don't do that without a good reason"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:52 PM
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I dunno. I remember a time in the 2010's where women were extremely loud when it came to whining about "toxic beauty standards" and making the argument that men should date women they aren't physically attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:48 PM
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Lmao, no. Calling women shallow does not lead to nut jobs like Elliot Roger.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 10:57 AM
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Your argument relies on every short man being a dick specifically because he's short. That's a pretty dumb generalization to make just to justify body shaming a type of man you don't like. Short men are more likely to be assholes to people because people are assholes to them first, you don't get to mock someone for their body and pretend like when they take shots back at you, they're being unreasonable. That's not how that works.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:03 PM
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So, which part of that had anything to do with my pointing out the lack of body shaming tall men for being assholes?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:52 PM
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Thats weird. I don't see any body shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:32 PM
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Women have said many times that they can just tell when men are doing that, so it shouldn't be an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:06 PM
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As a family of short people, the men in my family or men the women have got with (all on the shorter side) have never had an issue with women. That doesn't disprove the negative experiences other men have had. Short man syndrome is when a guy acts like a dick and like he is over compensating in the worst way possible. What body shaming language do you use when tall men act like dicks? What's that? You don't use body shaming language towards tall men? I wonder why that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:03 PM
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You cant really change being physically unattractive tho lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 05:43 AM
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Saying dumb things online doesnt hurt women, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 05:41 AM
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Advice for women: be attractive Advice for men: Be rich enough for women to use you for money, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 05:40 AM
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No. If a man is shaming plus sized women while secretly having sex with plus sized women, he's using them for sex because he can't get anyone else. When couples break up and shame each other, they aren't pointing out things they liked about each other, they're pointing out things they believe they settled over.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:27 AM
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I disagree. Firstly. If you're shaming someone for an attribute that you don't even know they have, you aren't shaming that person. You're shaming that body type and hoping that person fits. Additionally, no one is shaming a body style they like or have a preference toward. So, yes we can say that it is indicative of preference. I'm not taking anything personally, I'm just pointing out how ridiculous it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 10:33 PM
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Your logic is flawed in two ways. The guy you're making fun of, whether you know it or not, does not have a small dick. So you're not really insulting him. You're just denigrating a group of men who have nothing to do with whatever reason you're having a temper tantrum. If the guy does have a small dick, congrats. You got it right. Except now men around you know how you feel about small dicks. But collateral damage doesn't matter as long as you get to body shame the right person, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 09:27 PM
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It's so odd, isn't it? Women insist preferences for size vary, yet somehow unanimously agree that only one of those sizes is worth shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 08:07 PM
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Love doesnt happen without physical attraction, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 11:28 PM
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For unattractive dudes, yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:05 PM
6

There's a difference between not guaranteed and guaranteed to fail
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:59 PM
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Give up? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:50 PM
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People don't love you if you arent physically attractive, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 07:55 PM
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Except even if you think she's worth it, she may not think you're worth it and the chances of that increase or decrease due to things outside of your control.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 07:35 PM
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Dating apps only work for attractive dudes. Although the same can be said about dating in general
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 07:40 PM
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Love is entirely luck based lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 04:10 AM
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Yeah, same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:31 PM
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When 5' women are rejecting 5'4 dudes because they're too short, it stops being "taller than me." Isn't it kinda funny how I'm lying when I say men are into plus sized girls, but you're absolutely telling the truth about women being into short guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 01:17 PM
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More men are into plus sized women than there are women who are into short men. Super simple, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 01:12 PM
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No, you see what you want to see because it confirms your belief that women aren't as shallow as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 01:10 PM
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No, you just get to be on the end that only sees the success. You don't see the failures so you assume they never happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:22 AM
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The closest major town is 3 hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:18 AM
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Yes, every woman "knows a guy"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:08 AM
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FA? Yeah, dating wasn't a major part of my life in high school, I just did better then than I do now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 04:08 AM
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Yeah, my area doesn't have that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 04:05 AM
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Because high school relationships don't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 04:01 AM
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Yeah, not everyone has enough money to move to a different country
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 04:00 AM
2

Every woman i dated was taller than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:54 AM
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I could give it the benefit of the doubt if it weren't for the fact that it happens SO FREQUENTLY and the word "prefer" weren't used drastically differently between preferring tall men and "preferring" short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:52 AM
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So, give up? Like I've been saying? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:29 AM
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Home dawg, I actively avoid interacting with women unless I absolutely have to. I have my own place, a decent paying job and can afford several expensive hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:18 AM
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Yup, you're absolutely right. But they will not help you date if you are not attractive enough
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:17 AM
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I'm sure you think you know the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:04 AM
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"Height doesnt matter! As long as you aren't X" Sounds like height matters then
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 02:47 AM
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You remind me of someone i knew in high school. She'd say, "I would totally date you if I were single," with no prompt. However, when she was single, she was suddenly very uninterested.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 02:31 AM
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Try being 5'3 and listening to people tell you that height doesnt matter at all lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 01:56 AM
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I mean, they could be sunshine and rainbows, but it wouldn't really matter if they weren't physically attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 01:47 AM
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That's an entirely different view that I don't share. Anyone who unironically uses "Chad" is cringe as fuck. I can think of a lot of things tall men don't have to deal with that just further proves the things I do believe though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:34 PM
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I have preferences like most women for a taller dude. Yeah, that's all I needed to hear. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:29 PM
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Okay? I'm glad for both of you. That doesn't change the general trend
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 11:28 PM
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All you said was you'd have to actively look for a dude shorter than you. All I said was you've probably seen more than you realized but never noticed. If we were talking about your dating preferences, i was unaware. So, that's my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:54 PM
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We never talked about what you would or wouldn't date.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:52 PM
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Or you've just never noticed them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:48 PM
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Thats nice?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:48 PM
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I'm not policing anything. Have whatever preference you want. But let's look at how the word "preference" changes depending on whether we're talking about preferring tall men or "preferring" short men. When women say they prefer tall men, that is typically a hard line, she will not date anyone shorter than herself. Notice how none of these "it just so happens" moments ever come from a woman preferring tall men, but dating a short man? Yet, when women "prefer" short men, they still date tall men.…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:47 PM
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You are taller than me, it's really not that difficult to find someone shorter than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:44 PM
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I'm 5'3 lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:43 PM
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I think the difference is the frequency at which this specific "coincidence" happens, and the fact that word word "prefer" drastically changes depending on if someone says they prefer taller men or "prefer" short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 10:43 PM
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Because they usually say it in the same sentence "I prefer short kings, my boyfriend just happens to be 6'3" kinda nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:40 PM
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It's more about how women's actions almost immediately discredit what they say. Like somehow, every woman on Reddit who "prefers" short men always ends up with a tall dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 09:14 PM
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Right, lmao. So when a woman asks how tall I am and then immediately ghosts after I answer, in what way is that a personality flaw?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:20 PM
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Doesn't really change what I said
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:08 PM
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Oh, I'm just finding it odd how people are so quick to run to the defense of the most common relationship dynamic or preference
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:07 PM
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Yeah, I know women love to preach the idea that women are less shallow than men, but really, they only believe that because they have zero lived experience dating women as a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:03 PM
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Oh. So, physical attraction is not required for romantic and sexual relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:46 PM
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None of those basic life skills matter if you arent physically attractive though, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:44 PM
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I see comments about literally the most common preference and relationship dynamic made someone upset.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:38 PM
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Lmao, okay
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:33 PM
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Again, you're speaking about attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:54 PM
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Idk. Most of my friends in high school were women because we had the same interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:26 AM
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Yeah, that's the experience of attractive men. No unattractive dudes are "deliberately ignoring good women" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:20 AM
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Except you clearly do know if you admit that women dating men who are 5'3 are in the minority. This is why it's so easy to hand wave away any claim that "women don't care about height"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:15 AM
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So then your stats would mean fuck all to anyone who was 5'3? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:12 AM
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Because women absolutely never lead men on for their own benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:12 AM
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That's my bad i should have said women criticize men for giving up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:10 AM
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I dunno, I stopped interacting with women unless I absolutely have to and it's been pretty easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:08 AM
1

That doesn't happen
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:04 AM
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"Why should I have to shave" Cries women who demand men be able to meet standards that are immutable
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:03 AM
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No, but calling most standards men have "toxic beauty standards" sure did.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:02 AM
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And how many of those men are 5'3?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 01:00 AM
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Then you agree that women who are plus sized and single are only single because they are bad people?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:55 AM
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Except you also criticize men for giving up? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 12:54 AM
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You also have a chance at winning the lottery
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 01:45 PM
3

How many men did you date even when you found them incredibly physically unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:26 AM
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Women dont speak to someone they aren't already physically attracted to lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:22 AM
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"Men are so bad at reading people" Yet, women get used for sex by attractive dudes and get stuck in abusive relationships with attractive dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:20 AM
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No, women just assume that because it's easy for them, it's easy for everyone lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:18 AM
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Its easy for attractive men lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 02:15 AM
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Then why even speculate and make it seem like men are doing it maliciously? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 07:10 PM
4

I don't see why men not randomly complimenting you is a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:36 PM
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"Date fat women" I dated fat women "That doesn't count!" Jesus lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:43 PM
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It doesn't, it's just a dumb answer to an assumption that you've made about the type of women that i used to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:44 PM
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I never said i was only going for the hottest? Most women dated before giving up were plus sized. I was only pointing out that going for unattractive women doesn't work because unattractive women still want the same thing all other women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:44 PM
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Kinda like how men shouldn't expect women to date people they aren't attracted to, while insisting that men need to date people they aren't attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:27 PM
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Sure, it's not what you said, but let's face it. It wouldn't matter how many men admit that it happened to them. You would still insist that it doesn't happen because it doesn't happen to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:19 PM
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Sure, if you believe that i just so happened to run into the only woman who has ever done this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:06 PM
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Are..are we pretending that those women aren't also going for conventionally attractive men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:56 PM
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Thank you for the non-answer
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:49 PM
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How am I supposed to take accountability for being born physically unattractive? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:41 PM
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I was using myself as example of the whole "women don't do that" defense that women run to being total nonsense. And yeah, I'm sure you do. Women can't possibly be the bad people, if that's how i was treated, as a man, I had to have deserved it, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:19 PM
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"An example of 1" So, do you believe that I'm the only person who's ever experienced this, or do you believe that any man who has experienced it, just happened to be with my ex? I know women love doing the whole "it doesn't happen to me so it doesn't happen to anyone" thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 04:08 PM
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My ex cheated on me, body shamed me and encouraged our friends to body shame me. Whether you want to admit it or not, women are just as shallow as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:53 PM
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No matter how much women say they don't care or insist that men are the only ones who do, women are only body shaming one size, and seem to be much quicker to jump to defend the other at the slightest joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:35 PM
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Ah, "as a woman, I've never been rejected for my dick size, so clearly that means no one else has" That is the definitely logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 03:26 PM
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I guess I should have said anymore. That's on me. I stopped looking at porn when I gave up on dating 10+ years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 07:49 AM
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I dont watch porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 07:45 AM
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Lmao, I'm sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 07:31 AM
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Probably for the same exact reason women ask men if they hadn't seen any red flags or telling men their picker is broken when they're treated poorly by a woman they're in a relationship with
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:28 PM
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No, but I'm aware of that. And I'm also not pretending that you can love someone you aren't physically attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 10:43 AM
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Women dont care about personality traits unless they're physically attracted to you first
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:55 AM
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"I see nothing wrong with being settled for"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:53 AM
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But it does not mean an insignificant amount either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:05 AM
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Sure, if we're pretending that average women don't also want conventionally attractive men, then you'd have a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:05 AM
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Sure, if you ignore the rising percentage of single men, and I'm gonna wager that majority of that percentage aren't attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:58 AM
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And where's it getting most of them? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:48 AM
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What's there to be motivated about? If you're not conventionally attractive, there's no point talking to women lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:36 AM
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Men would get ridiculed for being insecure. Women aren't insulted when they have a porn boundary
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:44 PM
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Pretty sure small dicks only appear in small dick humiliation, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:43 PM
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You've never seen or heard it because you don't experience it. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen though, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 04:23 PM
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I mean women are pretty vocal about not wanting unattractive men around them in general, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 03:36 PM
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Do those people that you help actively tell you that they don't want you around?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 03:30 PM
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Can you explain why you believe people that you don't even want around should be supporting you, at no benefit to themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 03:23 PM
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As long as you also don't expect those men to support feminism lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:34 PM
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I mean, you can say it's absolute nonsense all you want, it doesn't really change the reality of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:00 AM
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Sorry, you don't use something as an insult unless you already think it's an insult
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:20 AM
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I promote it because that is what has been said to me when I was body shamed, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:32 AM
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That's nice. It's already the same logic women apply when they body shame men. If they aren't using the "women don't do that" logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:27 AM
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Tell you what, I'll clean up my act when I see more women calling out women who body shame men. Deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:23 AM
1

Why? Women don't call out women for body shaming men, so why would men not take shots back?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 01:08 AM
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Bigger is still bigger, no matter what degree, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:58 AM
1

That is a lot of words for "yes women prefer bigger"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:44 AM
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No, lmao. You don't want us around. You want our support. There is a difference. You have plenty of men that you actually want to be around that you can get support from.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:43 AM
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If women didn't care that much about it, bigger wouldn't be better, lmao. As for your second point, when was the last time women body shamed men with big dicks?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:20 AM
2

That was a bit hyperbolic, so that's on me. At the end of the day, it still boils down to one question. Why would I spend my life doing something for people who don't even want me around?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:17 AM
3

If you really wanna know whether or not women have a preference for larger, just ask any woman how often they body shame well-endowed men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:28 PM
-1

I'm not all that interested in being friends with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:17 PM
0

That's a disingenuous simplification. Let's try it this way. "Hey, i know we don't want you around because you're so unattractive, but we're gonna let you stay because we want you to support us. But the moment we get what we want, you can fuck off again,"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:07 PM
2

It's always one person. That's the problem. There will never be enough examples for people to admit that this isn't someone off thing. Unless you actually believe that men who deal with these issues just so happen to be running into the same 3 women all around the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:55 PM
3

I absolutely believe women should have equal rights. I absolutely believe that anyone who is in favor of taking away those rights is objectively wrong. But why would I waste my life, doing something for people who don't even want me around? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:53 PM
1

"It's doesn't matter how many men have this experience, it doesn't actually happen"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:52 PM
4

Aka "judge men for their genitals but not women"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:50 PM
1

The problem is that it doesn't matter how many men have these experiences, women insist that it's doesn't prove a point lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:49 PM
2

The problem is you're doing the exact same thing in the opposite direction. "It doesn't matter how many men have this experience or how many women say size matters, women don't think size matters" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:47 PM
3

So, in other words, bigger is better? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:46 PM
3

When have well endowed men been body shamed by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:43 PM
3

I mean, my ex-girlfriend cheated on me, body shamed me and encouraged all my friends to body shame me. Can you please tell me how that series of events was the fault of porn and men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:43 PM
1

It was odd that you had the expectation in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 08:04 PM
5

As an undesirable, you get used to it. It does kinda suck, but it is what it is. But I do find it kinda funny when women still expect undesirable men to support feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:41 PM
1

I don't think women are dumb. I think it's more of a mixture that women want to view women in the best light possible, they don't want to believe that some women can be as bad as some men, and sometimes they run off "if it hasn't happened to me, it hasn't happened to anyone."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 07:35 PM
4

In general, as women don't call out other women for body shaming men. Nor do women really even acknowledge that women body shame men. It's usually just met with, "women don't do that."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:07 PM
4

I think it depends. If some guy hasn't body shamed anyone before, but women start body shaming him, then i see no problem with him body shaming women in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:06 PM
1

It's a good thing the debate standards aren't that high. I'd be too dumb to participate, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:58 AM
2

I think the issue is women have a preference, but men are met with arguments when they point out that women have that preference
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 02:48 AM
15

My take is that I don't personally have an issue with women giving their own preference. The problem is that when they do, they also tend to use it as blanket generalizations that because they don't have whatever standard, that means women in general don't have that standard. It ends up just being don't generalize women that way as they generalize women in a different way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:51 AM
2

Actually, I agree with this. I'd like to have my mind changed. But handeaving away negative generalizations and applying positive generalizations and logic like women don't do that despite how often women do, in fact do that, does nothing to change my mind and those are the cornerstone of most points made.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:48 AM
18

If I wanted to disappoint two people at the same time, I'd just visit my parents
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 03:29 AM
4

Does it count if it o ly happened in high school? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:44 PM
18

Unattractive men need to be able to get a date to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 11:40 AM
4

Rejection isn't an injustice. It just means they aren't attracted to us. There is no way anyone changes that, without removing free will and choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 07:36 PM
2

Dawg, my last girl cheated on me, body shamed me and encouraged all of our friends to body shame me. I'm fully aware that rejection isn't just a no.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:49 PM
4

No, I'm saying comparing it to racism is dumb. I also believe that women are extremely harsh when rejecting people. However, nowhere near the same level of experiencing racism
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:48 PM
2

Just because it happened in the past, does not mean that rejection is worse than current day racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:47 PM
7

Brother, we're being rejected. Not we're not being hunted down and hanged. We aren't being treated anywhere near the same degree as those who have been suffering racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:56 PM
5

Listen, I'm part of the "not wanted" group. But comparing it to racism is weird. Women aren't going to change their standards, and thats their choice. The best you can do is cut women from your life. If you aren't physically attractive to them, then there's no point in being around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:48 PM
2

I'm ugly and most of my friends were women, so I had no problem talking to women. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 12:10 PM
3

I think it depends, like as far as hobbies go. For example: I could say i would prefer to date a woman who's passionate about music, and i probably wouldn't struggle to meet someone like that. However, if i said I prefer to date women who listen to nothing but Pornogrind, well, I'd probably struggle for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:34 AM
2

Because they project. They don't have all that wide of preference for dick size, so they insist breast size is the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:15 AM
2

Would you say that you've been rejected more than the average unattractive man?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:05 PM
1

And studies say women prefer dicks anywhere between 6-8 inches, but women will often dismiss those. These studies are no different.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:27 PM
1

That's nice, but it is strictly a physical attraction issue. Women are fine with assholes as long as they're nice to look at.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:19 PM
3

I think it's more of the "it's okay to mock and treat men's genitals as a moral failing, but it's wrong to do it to women" thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:05 PM
5

That is called entitlement. You expect better treatment than you give others because of your egotistical feeling of superiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:01 PM
2

Men are usually criticized for even bringing that up lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 07:59 PM
3

I don't believe he deserves better treatment because he is physically attractive. I believe some people value physical attraction above all other things in picking a partner which means they will choose an attractive person over an unattractive person when picking a partner. Adults are free to have bad values and act on those values. And if a man embodies the qualities a woman wants (and a woman should have as much freedom as a man to be shallow as hell) he deserves better treatment by her becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 07:36 PM
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In other words, character doesn't matter as long as the level of physical attraction offsets whatever red flags you choose to ignore. Let me ask you this; If you're implying that one man deserves better treatment because he is physically attractive, doesn't it make you extremely entitled to feel like the less attractive men owe you better treatment?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 06:08 PM
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If that were actually the case, attractive men wouldn't get a pass for being assholes to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:55 PM
5

I think there's something getting lost in translation. I'm pretty sure the claim is women don't care whether or not a guy is an asshole as long as he's attractive. Anyone claiming it's specifically being an asshole, is missing the "attractive" part
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 03:23 PM
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Women aren't being broken up with over the size of their tits lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:26 PM
0

Interesting, I mean I've never measured as I have enough suicide fuel, lmao. Women also insist that women have never body shamed men for their size, so see how it could be difficult to believe when you insist on something else women don't do?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:25 PM
1

I feel like your move to immediately dismiss advice that is regularly given to men who aren't hung isn't in good faith, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:24 PM
1

Aw man. Missing the coveted "thanks for the gold, stranger" moment. I appreciate it tho, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:22 PM
1

I'm not saying it's because of his dick size. I'm just pointing out how coincidental it is for all the women who claim size isn't important is also partnered with someone who is well endowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:03 PM
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Which is vastly different from the "please don't ever use your dick" that men who aren't well endowed get to hear. Which is also also vastly different from the fact that no matter how much it "hurts", women are only leaving men and body shaming men who aren't well endowed lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:57 AM
1

I find it odd that you think it's only dishonest when women are saying "bigger is better"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:52 AM
0

Most women think 6 is average, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:51 AM
11

I think someone tried that with boob size, but I think it got removed lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:45 AM
0

All women who say size doesn't matter are somehow always partnered with men who are well endowed lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:39 AM
253

"A man who isn't reminded how unwanted he is turns out to be nicer" Shock. Awe.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:05 AM
1

It may be a majority of the women you know, but it is not the majority of women in general
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 03:50 PM
2

I've never really been approached by anyone outside of high school. But sometimes women make it stupid obvious, and for one reason or another, guys (like me) will miss it entirely. Example: I used to walk home with a girl because we lived basically down the street from each other. We were pretty good friends. Outta the blue started talking about how badly she wanted to try oral and a couple of other things. Like, she brought it up over the course of a few days straight. I wasn't really sure how …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 05:34 AM
6

I can promise you, as an unattractive guy, women do it just as much lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 02:50 AM
9

It's nothing that women don't do as well, if its fine for them, then it also has to be okay for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 02:16 AM
7

Like can men work on being funny or something if they’re not gonna work on their looks. Fuck. Why? Clearly it's working for some men. Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 02:00 AM
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Those aren't any better lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 11:39 AM
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Most women prefer above average in looks, it's only a minority who are okay with average and even less who'd be okay with below average
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 11:01 AM
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Sorry, but no. No woman is fucking someone they aren't physically attracted to. And as much as people like to pretend otherwise, physical attraction is extremely important to romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:51 AM
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Lmao, you're not discussing anything. You're humble bragging. "My dick is big, i promise women don't care about size" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:46 AM
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It's just you only qualify for that assessment if she's already physically attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:10 AM
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But he is far more likely to even get a chance, over someone who isn't attractive lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:09 AM
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Man, you guys have run to the defense of men with big dicks more times in the last 5 posts than I've ever seen anyone speak out against shaming smaller dudes. I promise, a joke at the expense of men who have no body shaming and are preferred by the vast majority of women isn't gonna hurt anyone's feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 03:07 AM
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Ah. "Women don't do that" very clever, I've never once met a woman who's used this kind of logic. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:20 PM
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It was not a tangent. I was giving examples of actions that go completely against what women say.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:19 PM
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Gotta love the "I've got the advantage, so i haven't dealt with any of the negative impacts of being disadvantaged, which means no one else has"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:56 PM
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Sure, if you ignore literally every point I've made. Or are we doing the "as a woman none of these have happened to me, so they've never happened to anyone," thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:16 PM
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. Say that different vaginas are a better fit for different sizes of penis. Apparently also a lie. Not a lie, but the fact that there are different shapes and sizes, yet all of those shapes and sizes still prefer larger, is what makes this statement irrelevant. I don't want anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:13 PM
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I'm sure. "I wouldn't say i wish my partner was bigger, I would just say i prefer bigger." As if they aren't essentially the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:01 PM
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Correction. It's not important to WOMEN because it isn't happening to women. Women have a tendency to use the "if it isn't happening to me, it isnt happening to anyone" approach to anything that isn't negatively affecting them. If a guy with a bigger dick was online obsessing about his lack of sexual ability and making his partner happy, he’d get the same advice. But they don't do that. Why? Because they aren't the ones being told that their size is the bad size. I do believe that most women pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:00 PM
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"Trust me poors, being rich isn't an advantage."
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:53 PM
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Lmao, "if i dismiss your points, it'll prove I'm right!" Large men aren't explicitly told to not use their dick and to only use toys, or to replace their dick with a sleeve. You not hearing about something doesn't mean it doesn't happen. The source is women. Your small dick energy is a nothing burger as the phrase still implies "small dick bad." "Women prefer larger" hey at least you can admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:51 PM
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If you find out your partner told a survey, say... I wish my partner was thinner, or had bigger tits, or a bigger ass, but remained in the relationship with you. Would you be totally cool with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:48 PM
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Nah, you can go back on or two posts and find it yourself. What do I look like? Google?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:45 PM
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I'm pretty sure the last post about this had a survey where upwards of 80 to 90 percent of women said they preferred above average. The implication would be that if their partners are not above average, they wished they were.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:41 PM
2

I don't really have to deal with men's preferences, so they aren't my problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:38 PM
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No, most women are telling surveys they wish their partner was bigger lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:37 PM
10

Most is not all. And we have had several women and men say they have spoken or have heard their partner speak about their size. And again, women are only saying the nice things about one size. But sure, ignore literally every other point because it's easier to do than just admit you're not right on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:35 PM
15

If your partner told you he settled for, would you consider that to be "to your advantage?"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:31 PM
10

Copy and pasting the list of things that men aren't well endowed have the luxury of dealing with : The actions are as follows: Between small men and hung men, women only body shame small men. Between small men and hung men, women are only bragging to their friends about hung men. Between small men and hung men, the advice given is for small men to be a god in bed while also using toys as a replacement for their dick. While hung men are told, "Just please be gentle." Between small men and hung me…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:29 PM
14

The actions are as follows: Between small men and hung men, women only body shame small men. Between small men and hung men, women are only bragging to their friends about hung men. Between small men and hung men, the advice given is for small men to be a god in bed while also using toys as a replacement for their dick. While hung men are told, "Just please be gentle." Between small men and hung men, women are running to the defense of only of those men because "making a joke about a group of pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:28 PM
5

I never claimed to be smart, all that matters is you understood what I meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:18 PM
17

Men don't listen because this is an instance of 'women say one thing but their actions say the polar opposite"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 01:05 PM
6

Cold approaching doesn't work if you aren't attractive lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 05:27 AM
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You'd have a point if 6 weren't above average lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:10 AM
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Except it is not the vast majority that don't care lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 05:55 PM
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An individual not caring changes nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 05:51 PM
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Sorry, your one experience doesn't change the general trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 05:45 PM
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It's only a fix if you actually stopped sleeping with well endowed men because it hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 05:29 PM
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Well, when you're the one getting body shamed for it, you'll understand lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 05:25 PM
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One that women perpetuate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 05:16 PM
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No, but it is far more likely that mr. Big dick was the one who didn't commit, so Mr. Small dick was settled for due to factors outside his size. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 05:16 PM
13

"It's hurts so much that I enjoy sleeping with them, but don't worry hun, I like yours cause the big ones hurt." Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 05:06 PM
2

It just so happens that well endowed men aren't asked to replace their dicks with toys lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:50 PM
14

And you think she's the only woman in existence who has ever done that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:49 PM
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I think the fact that 'small dick energy' is an insult and 'big dick energy' is a compliment is proof in and of itself what people in general think is better
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:00 PM
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Imagine thinking this is a good argument to make lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:57 PM
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Hey, it's me. Ya boi. My last relationship ended because she cheated on me, body shamed me, and encouraged my friends to body shame me. I am walking proof that women care about larger sizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:50 PM
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What would you like evidence of? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:44 PM
6

It's being done because: They have tons of women on here saying at the end of the day, men's size isn't that deep to them, they are more bothered about what they are doing with it. And you have men on here going you are lying because I have spent hours doing research to find a study to prove it. It's exhausting to listen to women say "nuh-uh" just to have what they actually do, match up with what was being said in the first place. Are you just trying to be right? Or are you trying to make insecu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:37 PM
35

Even if that first statement were true, which it's not, sexual compatibility is a reason women break up with men. Not being pleased by his size typically falls under sexual compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:35 PM
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Women will always care about size. Look at the advice given to both sides. Well-Endowed Men: "Just use lube, lots of foreplay and don't jackhammer it." Smaller Men: "Just get better at oral sex than every other man and use toys instead of your dick." Or let's look at how the word "preference" changes between preferring well-endowed men and "preferring" average or smaller men. When women prefer well-endowed men, there's usually a limit to how small a guy can be. Typically, anything smaller than 6…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:29 PM
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Yeah, they're so brave having the same preference as the vast majority of women. Better peotect the women who prefer taller men, i hear they're also an endangered species. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:21 PM
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Women who don't like sex don't have a size preference. Your argument was nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:20 PM
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Girth is still size, and they still prefer above average lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:15 PM
1

Sorry, but women aren't as excited seeing average or less than average as they are seeing well endowed. "Just be better at sex than most or all men and use toys instead of your dick" is not the good thing women continually make it out to be
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:15 PM
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Women deny that women body shame mem. So, you'll have to forgive me if I also don't believe it when women insist "actually the smaller ones are better" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 02:12 PM
5

Girth is still size.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:58 AM
3

I refuse to believe women weren't turned on during The Last House on the Left or The Hills Have Eyes. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:54 PM
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Can you point me to an example of a woman absolutely fawning over an objectively unattractive man?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:09 PM
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Sorry, but no. The chances of her even speaking to you without physical attraction to get to know you are slim at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:03 PM
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Game doesn't matter if she's isn't physically attracted to you lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 07:58 PM
2

I am the mythical "Size absolutely matters to most women" guy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 07:56 PM
7

Do you believe men when they say they don't have any standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 07:55 PM
5

Because it IS most
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 06:39 PM
9

I think it's the pretending that it's not the preference of most women that gets old. I welcome the honesty and confirmation of things I already know.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 06:39 PM
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But you'd need to get to know him to find out what his personality was like. Unattractive men don't even get to the "get to know you" part because looks are more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 05:05 PM
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Women generally don't care about unattractive men improving themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 03:28 PM
2

Here's what you can always assume: "You're not attractive enough." It is usually the answer in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 01:45 PM
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