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This is a nothingburger
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:36 AM
1

What? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 02:36 AM
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Its funny because anytime men try to talk about being body shamed, women usually comment on it solely to make it about how women have it worse with being shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:22 AM
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Oof
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 05:55 PM
2

What? 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:32 AM
6

You know what. I misunderstood the point of the post and came in to argue something off topic because I got lost in the sauce. My bad, g.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:53 PM
2

*conventionally attractive sweet caring gathering men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:51 PM
6

Sure, if you're attractice that CAN mean they don't care about anything else. But if you're unattrsctive, the only thing that would ever matter was the physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:25 PM
9

Except you need to be attractive in order for them to care about anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:17 PM
8

It really is just that simple though. Be tall and attractive. There's a reason the saying goes "looks open doors"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:02 PM
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Lmao, women's preferences aren't that unique
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:01 PM
8

Dude, you can go through my post and comment history, typically I am pretty antagonistic toward women. But what the fuck? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 01:05 AM
1

Remind me, which size do women shame?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:10 PM
1

I'm really not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:35 PM
1

You mean other than the obvious "there's a massive preference for one and zero preference for the other" thing I've already said?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:24 PM
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You say that and yet the preference for big dicks is the norm. Meanwhile the number of women who prefer small dicks has always sat at a comfortable 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:14 PM
2

This whole thing is just fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:05 PM
3

A well-endowed man can do all of those things to. All you're really saying is that men with small dicks can only be good if well-endowed men are lazy. Given the option between a guy who's good at oral but has a small dick and a guy who's good at oral and had a big dick, no woman choosing the first option. To be honest, women would more likely choose a well-endowed man who was bad at oral over a dude with small dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:04 PM
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Yeah, because never is the history of ever have women cheated based on a lack of attraction to their partner. The woman using someone for their money is the super duper nice exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 10:17 AM
1

Yeah, I always kinda wished my mom would have aborted me lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:20 AM
2

Yes because most unattractive men are unattractive by choice. So statistically there is a larger group of unattractive men who will stay single and lonely. Sorry. Men choose to be short? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:25 AM
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I'm a dude and I understand that women ghost because a guy getting rejected might get violent or weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 12:47 AM
2

They really aren't lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:45 PM
3

That's my point, lmao. There are no women who prefer short, unattrsctive men with small dicks. Because preferences aren't all that varied or unique.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:28 PM
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No, lmao. What you're doing is assuming your preferences are super duper unique. When they're not
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:21 PM
7

Sure, so you'd date a short unattractive man with a small dick then, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 10:03 PM
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Then she has a sexual attraction to the money. Not him. Lmao. Ontop of that, it doesn't matter how he got rich, the point is, in this hypothetical, him being rich is the only reason she wants to be there. There's no physical attraction, so she's probably just going to cheat while using him for his money. Its so weird how you people romanticize taking advantage of unattractive men by using them for their money.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 08:32 PM
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If the difference between her wanting him and not wanting him is him being rich, she wants the money. Not him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 08:24 PM
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Sure, not all short men are single. But I'm not going to pretend the reason has nothing to do with financial security or settling becase they don't want to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:24 PM
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And there are plenty of unattractive women in relationships as well. If that does not serve as counter proof to your point, you cannot use unattrsctive men being in (most likely dead bedroom) relationships as a counter point to mine. The difference is what men consider attractive and unattrsctive has variety. Not so much with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:13 PM
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Don't tell me what to do. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:57 PM
1

Don't get so hard on yourself man, just think positively.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:54 PM
3

You can't change being short, you can't change being unattractive. There is no way to compensate the lack of physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:47 PM
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What are you talking about? The number of women who like short men with small dicks is still zero. There is no augmentation you could make that would ever change that number from zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:45 PM
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I'm not saying men date women they aren't attracted to. I'm saying that for all the grief you're giving men for not dating unattractive women, women aren't dating unattractive men either. No woman wants a short, unattractive man with a small dick. Kindness does not matter without physical attraction for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:33 PM
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What are you talking about? Lmao. Kindness only matters to women if they're already physically attracted to you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:21 PM
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I can promise you that no woman wants a short, unattractive man with a small dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:15 PM
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Its my special ability. Get em curious and then outperform when I'm uglier than I say I am
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:03 PM
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I appreciate the attempt to make me feel better though, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:02 PM
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It is definitely not 5 lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:59 PM
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On a scale of one to ten? Like -5
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:58 PM
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I got you, twin
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:58 PM
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No, that's definitely not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:57 PM
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This works if you're attractive, aside from being short. It does not work if you're unattractive AND short.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:57 PM
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Clearly, that's why she bragged to everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:52 PM
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That's not what she said.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:49 PM
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Not without a microscope.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:48 PM
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Because I have eyes and my ex made that very clear to me and all of our friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:46 PM
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I dunno, I never measured.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:45 PM
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Sure. It happens. Never said it didn't. But the chances of it working out are significantly lower than the chances of success. I don't like doing things when the chance of success is so slim. Its just a waste of time and energy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:44 PM
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At 5'3 there's literally no point in even bothering.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:35 PM
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I promise you, no woman is getting with a short dude with a small dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:35 PM
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Pretty much. What OP means is "tall, attrsctive men have it easy" which is 100% true
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:33 PM
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I don't mean that specifically. Just the limited range. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:26 PM
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Be a short, unattrsctive guy with a small dick and tell me how well you do. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:26 PM
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I feel bad for your current partner lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:16 PM
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And what exactly are some things you've done with past men that you won't do for your current partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:47 PM
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Lmao. Oh boy. A whole two positions? Man. You're wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:45 PM
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Sure. So what counts as "good" non kinky sex to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:31 PM
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Being a starfish and only offering missionary to your current partner is shitty sex. If you didn't like it, why did you never tell your ex he was only allowed to do missionary? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:27 PM
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Lmao, sure she did, that's why she did all of it with her ex. Just face it, you just want men to accept shitty sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:18 PM
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"When I was with my ex, I gave him head, let him fuck me in any position, did anal and did a bunch of kinky shit" Vs "I'm only giving you missionary" Yeah. Equal effort. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:04 PM
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Lmao okay
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 02:53 PM
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Where do you get the idea that vanilla sex is the same effort? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:28 AM
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Because she was clearly more willing to put more effort with her ex? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 06:24 AM
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How would you build experience if your partner doesn't want to do those things until you have experience? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:43 PM
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I said they should put effort into learning about kinky sex, and then learn some of the necessary skills for kinky sex, before asking that of a partner. Kink often requires advanced communication skills, risk assessment, and decent knowledge of anatomy, power dynamics, trauma (physical and mental), and so much more. Also, I was pretty clear that some, not all, kinks should be off limits for inexperienced players. Sure. So, Bob is in a relationship, he decides he's wants to try something more kin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 08:55 AM
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You went off on a tangent about it being entitled if men who've never had kinky sex say they want to try kinky sex. Its exactly what you said, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 07:50 AM
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Gotcha. So if they're inexperienced and want to try new rlthings, you basically tell them to fuck off, missionary only? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 07:23 AM
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? "I didn't treat him better, I just liked sex with him more than I like sex with you" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:03 AM
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As opposed to asking your partner to be okay with a life of missionary only, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:01 AM
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"Hey hun, I was this random dude's cumdump, but its out of my system now. So missionary only." Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:00 AM
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That would make total sense, if it weren't for the fact that a lot of this premise comes from the "one night stand got to hit it immediately, but the guy i like needs to wait". If kinky sex is given to a ONS but you aren't willing to give kinky sex to a long term partner, has nothing to do with risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:58 AM
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Lmao, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 02:54 AM
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Its funny because we're in a thread where women are openly saying they prefer PIV to oral, no one is prefering PIV with someone who isn't above average lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 01:35 AM
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Based on what do you not believe it? That you haven't been personally told? And who would you expect would tell you? Men? No man is openly admitting to that due to the immediate and open reprocussions of admitting to that. Women? Because they'd never withhold information like that out of fear that it might make them look bad if the person she did this to was previously generally liked?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 05:59 PM
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What? A woman who believes somwthing doesn't happen based on the fact that she's never experienced it? I'm shocked. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 05:02 PM
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Is this your way of trying to say I'm the only person this has ever happened to? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 04:50 PM
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Lmao, it definitely does, its just not the space for you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 04:46 PM
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Nah, I just know how women are with unattractive dudes, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 04:22 PM
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Oh I'm not wasting my time doing that, cheaters aren't worth that amount of effort
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 04:05 PM
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I'm not advertising it, as personally I don't think women belong there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:30 PM
1

Oh boyyy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:30 PM
1

I'm starting to think you're messing with me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:29 PM
1

Yeah, man. Not sure about all that psycho-babble. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:24 PM
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Its funny, women say that a lot, but in my experience it comes almost exclusively from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:18 PM
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There's an entire subreddit of men with that exact experience. Lmao. Not being body shamed? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:13 PM
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Lmao, and we both know that not every man has top 10% traits, which means, generally, my statement still stands. Although I don't for a second believe you've been loyal. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:11 PM
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I want to be well-endowed because then I'm not expected to replace myself a piece of silicone lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:09 PM
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Well, I guess since a woman has never heard od it, any man's actual experience is nonsense. Lmao. The whole "you're insecure if you don't use toys" even though toys are usually only forced onto dudes who aren't well-endowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:55 PM
1

Again, based on your other conversation, my original statement stands, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:53 PM
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I see, and using a dildo instead on having sex is fun and pleasurable for me, in what way? May as well not even have sex at that point, lmao. The vast majority of women will shame you. And yes, i would rather be hung than small, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:51 PM
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Lmao, there's absolutely nothing difficult about being big. Yes, women do shame men for being below average, in fact the majority of women take part in that. There's a reason its not implied that well-endowed men should use anything but their dick, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:31 PM
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Sure, guys are the only ones who care. That's why women leave men for being below average, right? The entire toy debate would also disagree with the idea that size doesn't matter. Well-endowed men aren't asked to use smaller toys in the same way smaller men are asked to use bigger toys
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:26 PM
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Yeah, but based on your conversation with that other chick, I can pretty much tell you don't like it, so my original statement stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:23 PM
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Personally I don't like kids, so they're a headache at all ages
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:22 PM
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That's super easy, actually. What size ranfe do women not shame men for having? Dating would be a waste of time lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:18 PM
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I think its manoaphere podcast bros, they're the ones spamming out about birth rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:16 PM
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You got me there lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:15 PM
1

They wouldn't compromise, they'd find someone else
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:08 AM
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Sure, let's listen to women. Which sizes have women never shamed men for having?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 07:03 AM
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Women's size preferences really aren't that different, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 05:51 AM
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I think this is true for unattractive men, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 05:02 AM
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No, lmao, you just can't change the reality of the situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 04:27 AM
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It is what it is, that's just reality
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 03:50 AM
-1

What do you mean, "what does that mean to you"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:46 AM
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This is a whole lotta nothing burger. Women don't prefer "different sizes". The vast majority prefer one size lmao. And they'll take that over oral any day
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 01:48 AM
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Not really, just about every woman would take PIV with a well-endowed man over oral
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 01:16 AM
-1

Not wrong, skill at oral isn't that important
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:52 AM
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Oral isn't that important to women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 12:44 AM
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I don't understand why people are so obsessed with women who don't want kids. Shits expensive, kids are a headache.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 11:50 PM
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I understand it just fine lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:33 PM
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I didn't say it was a defect lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 07:46 PM
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Because it is personal? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 05:48 PM
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It really isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:09 PM
1

Except not all men are demanding women date people the aren't attracted to. Tell me, how do you think someone would feel if he found out his wife / girlfriend was never actually attracted to him, and lied about it their entire relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 12:33 PM
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And yout think leading someone on and pretending you're attracted to them is a sign of caring about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 12:24 PM
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So? Does that mean men who aren't complaining about it deserve to be tricked into thinking you care about then when you don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 12:17 PM
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Dating someone you know you aren't attracted to is a character flaw.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 12:05 PM
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Fucking for real, lmao. I can't count the number of times women told men that they needed to learn to get over the way someone looks. Or how many standsrds men held were labeled as "toxic"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 06:30 AM
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Right, my bad. I should have done better at the character customization menu.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:53 AM
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You're right, there were no women who were 20+ years old back in 2010.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:27 AM
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And thats still not the fault of the men being lead on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:58 AM
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Then don't date men you aren't attracted to. And if you do, realize that's your fault, your character flaw. Not the flaw of the man you've been leading on and pretending to care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:40 AM
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Women can have whatever standards they want. I'm still gonna clown on them for all the crap women gave men for their standards in the early 2010s
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:17 AM
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I mean, you can do both. Women DO have high standards. And women DO marry men they aren't attracted to for financial gain or whatever else they're using them for. I don't understand why you think its wrong to shame women for using men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 12:37 AM
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There's a reason the saying is "looks open doors" not "personality opens doors"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 02:38 PM
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You know, its funny. For all the times this sub has called men incels for believing height matter, it kinda seems like every woman responding to this believes height matters
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 08:02 PM
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No, lmao they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 07:33 PM
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And what happens if a guy narrows his pool down to 10 women and none of them are interested? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 02:45 PM
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Whaatt relationships that didn't work out, didn't have physical attraction? No one would have seen that coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 11:55 PM
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I'm not in a position nor will I ever be in a position to help lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 11:53 PM
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Are we pretending plus sized women don't do that? Also I didn't realize that wanting your partner to be attracted to you was the same as demanding they look at you like you're Jeremy Meeks. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 11:25 PM
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And there are plenty of other men who put in as much work as you do, who see absolutely no results because physical attraction will always be more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 11:22 PM
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You guys want the women who are so obsessed with looks or money that she can overlook a terrible personality. You guys are just upset. You don’t have the looks or money. Those women are looking for. Right, you definitely weren't saying we only go for one type of woman. Ah, I see. So, wanting your partner to be physically attracted to you, is demanding worship? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 11:13 PM
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Yeah, man. Just literally be perfect in every possible way. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 11:09 PM
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I don’t know why you would think that. If you guys looked at people as people and not just props for your Main Character Syndrome, life would be easier. You mean other than the fact that you literally just said unattractive men only go for one type? Lmao Why do you only wanna be around height queens? ...are we pretending there are any women who don't prefer tall? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:55 PM
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Lmao, riiiiight. All men have the same standards, but women are super unique. There definitely isn't a general and very strong preference toward tall men that the vast majority of women have.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:51 PM
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Riiiiiiight. So when do we stop pretending that all women care about physical attraction? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:39 PM
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Right. So we just ignore the part where women will always choose someone who looks like Jeremy Meeks or has the kind of money Trump / musk have, over a nice unattractive dude? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 10:31 PM
2

Nothing helps if you aren't attractive lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:48 PM
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"Hey guys, I know this outlier!" Remind me, do women body shame men for being tall as much as they shame men for being short?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:40 PM
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Sorry, but some people aren't compatible with anyone. There isn't someone out there for everyone. That's not how life works.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:40 PM
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No women are into unattractive men, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:37 PM
3

Sure they are, just get laid, obviously! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:32 PM
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If it were up to women, men's version of venting would be "i didn't shower enough to get a date" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:26 PM
3

Why would I care about anyone's experience but mine? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:26 PM
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You don't even have to be butt ugly, lmao. Just be a guy who's 5'3. Your personality or social skills will never actually matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:16 PM
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I don't watch any influences, man. They're Brianrotted morons who just want to take money from desperate men. There's a reason the phrase is "looks open doors" not "personality opens doors" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:04 PM
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The fact that you even need to add that stipulation just tells me that social skills will never be as important as just being attractive. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 08:01 PM
5

I think its perfectly fine for men to vent, whether women approve of it or not doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:56 PM
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Except..it is all or nothing. Lmao. That's how that works. If you are not physucally attractive, there is no "getting to know you" phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:38 PM
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Thats because alot of guys are lazy as hell. Even in this subreddit, guys are arguing that social skills are irrelevant. Social skills, Social skills without physical attraction ARE useless lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:36 PM
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This is a strong sentiment from a group of People who will never actually have to deal with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:36 PM
1

Man actually thinks women don't care about physical attraction lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 07:31 PM
0

Right, right. Sure, jan.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:19 PM
0

Please show me anywhere in my comment history where ive ever even talked about that. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:13 PM
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Not really, it just depends on whether or not they're attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:11 PM
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Really the only thing that matters is physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 06:11 PM
3

So, being a shitty person is a neutral quality then, not an actual negative as far as dating goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:52 PM
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Being a shitty person has never actually prevented dudes from getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:04 PM
2

Sure, sure. Come back with that when women aren't body shaming men who aren't well-endowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:38 AM
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The same reason women talk, knowing men aren't going to listen lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:48 AM
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Both sides want to be listened to, but neither side is willing to listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:45 AM
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I'm not upset, believe me, after the body positivity movement, i don't expect women to support men in the slightest. As I said I'm pushing back on the idea that men and the patriarchy are solely at fault for men's issues not being dealt with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:42 AM
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No, I do not. I'm not obligated to care about women's issues nor is it a requirement for me to talk about issues men have dealt with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:21 AM
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No, I do not. I'm not obligated to care about women's issues nor is it a requirement for me to talk about issues men have dealt with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:20 AM
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I'm not the one claiming to care about something I don't care about. I never said I did. You guys are the ones who are blaming men and the patriarchy for men's issues not being taken seriously, while dismissing women and feminists' role in that dismissal
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:01 AM
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I see. So the argument becomes "it happened to women so its okay when it happens to men"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:50 AM
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It was 90 groups and 130 women's shelters.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:39 AM
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Lmao, I'm not debating this with you. Sure. Because eit happened in Italy, it never actually happened. There you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:28 AM
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Right. So because it happened in Italy, it doesn't count. So violence against women in the middle east doesn't count, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:26 AM
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No, but femisnist DID write an open letter demanding violence against men be censored in Italy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 11:21 PM
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Feminist organizations and individuals have campaigned against male domestic violence shelters because they felt it took funding away from domestic shelters for women. They've also signed open letters demanding censorship of violence against men in Italy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 11:20 PM
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No. Lol. Its because women and well-endowed men aren't the one who actually have to live with the experience of being below average, they just get to pretendnthey know better while experiencing none of the negatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:56 PM
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Neither have you, lmao. Womwn love to run with the 'size doesn't matter' thing, but they never stop to ask why the only people who push that are well-endowed men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:44 PM
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I'm realistic about my dick size. You replied to one part of the second paragraph. You didn't respond to the part about people being encouraged to shame men who are below average. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:15 PM
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4 is not average. Its below average. No woman wants or is happy with below average. Gotta love how choose not to comment on that last part because you know its true lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:09 PM
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There are no women who are satisfied by small sizes, lol. To your edit: when men do talk about women's genitals, they're told that they're incels who don't understand women. Most people encourage body shaming men who are below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 12:03 PM
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You'd have such a good point if there weren't any men who liked small breasts, the same way there aren't any women who like small dicks lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 11:57 AM
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I'm sure you haven't lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 11:46 AM
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I didn't ask for your backstory lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 10:26 AM
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No, I just forgot to respond. Lmao. But sure. Baseless. Remind me, do women shame men for being well-endowed?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 10:09 AM
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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4558040/ https://badgirlsbible.com/does-size-matter https://ro.co/health-guide/what-size-penis-do-women-prefer/ https://www.realclearscience.com/quick_and_clear_science/2015/09/07/what_penis_size_do_women_prefer.html Here's four of the MANY studies lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 10:09 AM
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Lmao. You have life on easy mode.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 03:04 AM
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Rejection is body shaming?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:28 AM
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Sure, sure. Say, how often are men body shamed for being well-endowed?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 10:52 PM
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If women didn't care about size, being below average wouldn't be a deal breaker for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 09:41 PM
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Dude. You're so far above average, you have no idea whatcactual struggle is lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 04:01 PM
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Are we pretending women don't treat micro and anything below average as if they're the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:59 PM
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Are..are we pretending that there are any women who want someone who's below average? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:58 PM
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Pretty much every study on the matter agrees, the fact that size preference agrees, the fact that it isn't well-endowed men being shamed for their size agrees. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:56 PM
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And women do not describe anything less than above average as good dick. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:53 PM
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No, lmao. Most women prefer above average. If size didn't matter, preferences wouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:52 PM
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Literally no woman has ever described small dick as good dick, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:47 PM
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Right. I'm sure its just a coincidence then lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:41 PM
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No woman has ever described small dick as good dick. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:25 PM
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Good dick = big dick. Its super simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 08:40 AM
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I'm sure that's why only smaller men are body shamed lmao
/r/ExRedPill01/04/26 12:15 AM
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Ugly women have more power (dating wise) than ugly men lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 03:30 PM
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No shit lol, I've never felt like i was owed sex. But I always find it odd how quick people are to dismiss any kind of venting or negative feelings about being unattractive by refraining those feelings as always and only stemming from entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:19 AM
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I think most men understand what women think of them. Attractive = good man Unattractive = bad man
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 10:47 PM
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And then women are even less likely to have casual sex with someone they consider "husband material"? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:32 PM
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Yeah, man totally
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:30 PM
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Sure, just less attracted to them than the men you were having casual sex with
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 02:43 PM
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That's fine, men aren't entitled to the preferential treatment you gave to previous partners, but then don't turn around and act like you aren't giving your past partner preferential treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 02:37 PM
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Physical attraction is a requirement in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 02:35 PM
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If she wasn't attracted to you before she saw what you had to offer, then yes. She is not physically attracted to you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 02:34 PM
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Yeah, man. They chose to be born with bad genes. Totally shot themselves in the foot by just not being born with a better dick size.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 06:10 AM
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What percentage of women do u actually find desirable ? Vs how much do u actually find good enough/ acceptable I have never actusly met a woman i found unattractive, but my standards are shot
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 06:00 AM
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Suggesting that men should be open to their wives cheating on them is fucking wild. Someone clearly has a kink.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 06:33 PM
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The problem is, is that when men are AWARE that women have physical preferences, we're also denigrated for acknowledging it. Like yeah. You like tall guys. So does every woman, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 06:30 PM
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Every study on thr matte shows that women prefer 6-6.5. Well above average, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:26 PM
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Sure, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 12:45 AM
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Sure. I am so so so sorry :(
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 03:09 PM
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And would you say that men generally prefering thin women is wrong because my friends married plus sized women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 03:08 PM
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Oh lmao, that had nothing to do with him being a guy. I was just in a different headspace that day. If the same person were to say the same thing to me now, I would tell him exactly what I told you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 03:06 PM
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Lmao. Right. So, most of my friends married plus sized women, so that's proof that all men are attracted to plus sized women, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 02:05 PM
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Yes, literally zero lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 10:49 AM
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I'll take things that didn't happen for 500
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 03:49 AM
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Doubt it. Pill men just call women liars when they say something that doesn't fit their preconceived notions of the world. No, lmao. I'm going to use an example, but in SDP, women come in to lecture to tell us it's all in our heads, that women don't all have the same preference. But if you take even 2 seconds to look their profile, what they post and what they comment on shows that they don't even believe what they're saying. They just wanted to lecture people they perceive as less than. I can r…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 03:45 AM
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No, I'm just not taking this conversation very seriously. You're just regurgitating the same nonsense talking points every women spews out, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 03:38 AM
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Yes, yes. Men bad, women good.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 03:31 AM
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Right, I know my beliefs aren't shit because as a man who IS below average i have lived experience with how women actually treat us. Therapy will not change that, it'd just be a waste of time and money
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 03:21 AM
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Jokes on you I don't even watch porn
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 03:15 AM
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It had to do with what the original commentor said. And yes, women in my example were lying. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 03:14 AM
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It wasn't initially supposed to be about size. It was supposed to be about women coming into men's spaces and lying, since the original person i responded to insisted that women aren't lying when they do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 03:00 AM
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That sounds like a porn brained stereotype that isn't true. Most women will take painful over small
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 02:25 AM
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Thank you for being able to word it in a way that I'm unable to lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 01:33 AM
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Oh? That explains why so many women have preferences for large while literally zero have a preference for small.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 01:27 AM
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In what way did I twist anything? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 12:53 AM
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Because he does have an advantage. Lmao. If you felt otherwise, my question would have been an easy one to answer
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 12:32 AM
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Yeah? So how many men who drive fancy cars are doing it to compensate? Is it all of them, or are there men who just like nice cars? Yes, lmao, you did. Work on your pussy eating skills and you'll have a woman having more orgasms than a big dick guy than doesn't know where the clit is. So what happens when a big dick guy has both size and can eat pussy well? If you knew two men, one who was small and could eat and one who was well-endowed and could eat, who would you pick?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 12:26 AM
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First, I don't think short men owe women any more respect than women give short men. And being as how every woman seems to be pretty openly okay with body shaming short men, I fail to see why short men should talk any more respectfully about women. Second. That does nothing to actually help short men, its just further dismissal. All it boils down to is "not all men expefience it so your lived experience doesn't actually count". I will pretend to feel empathy for the poor tall men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 12:21 AM
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Right. Two things. One. Are all men who are insecure totally assholes with small dicks, and what about small dick is so bad that they're equivalent to someone as awful as Taint? Two. All you've said was that smaller sized men ar eo ly as good when well-endowed men are lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 12:16 AM
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I'm sure. Say, do you typically use traits that you like as an insult?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:50 PM
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Congrats, you know what outliers are. I'd be care ful about using words like 'dismiss', since women's go to move is to dismiss and insult short men who talk about their negative experiences. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:43 PM
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Absolutely. That's why women only body shame one size range, right? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:41 PM
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Lmao. No. That's very different. One is required for pleasure. One is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:33 PM
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Right, so a woman comes in and saying "size doesn't matter, its all in your head" while publicly simping for big dicks isn't a matter of confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:24 PM
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No, lmao. I'm going to use an example, but in SDP, women come in to lecture to tell us it's all in our heads, that women don't all have the same preference. But if you take even 2 seconds to look their profile, what they post and what they comment on shows that they don't even believe what they're saying. They just wanted to lecture people they perceive as less than.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:12 PM
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There's no amount of improvement short men could do to ever be ahead of tall men, so There's no point in trying lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:09 PM
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It doesn't matter who created the term, if both men and women use the term at similar rates. We can also rule out the whole "personality argument" since all it takes for women to immediately dish out small dick insults is if someone is driving a slightly large truck. On top of that, the vast majority of women have an issue with small dicks. The only people who believe it's a minority are women and well-endowed men. Because, neither of those groups of people have been shamed for their dick size, …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 02:47 PM
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As long as you're not below average, you're fine. If you ARE below average, there isn't a single woman who isn't gonna body shame you into oblivion
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 01:06 AM
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Sure. But then you're essentially saying "this is how men with small dicks act" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:50 AM
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That's just...never happening. Lmao. The reaction will always just affirm that size indeed matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:47 AM
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Women aren't insulting small dicks because they like small dicks, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:45 AM
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They aren't options if they're going to reject you, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:47 AM
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Going out and asking questions I already know the answer to isn't going to solve anything either, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:46 AM
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No, you just want to critisize those less fortunate than you, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:39 PM
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Such a dumb comparison. Riding a bike is a skill that doesn't rely on good genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:27 PM
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Love the gotcha. I don't chat any woman up, regardless of appearance because I already know how it ends. I don't like wasting my time asking questions I already know the answer to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:25 PM
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Yes, I'm sure your experience as an unattractive man would put you in a position to know better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:11 PM
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Again , not the same for unattractive men, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 09:07 PM
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Thats just untrue. Women and attractive men may have many options, but unattractive men do not
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:51 PM
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It's actually VERY easy to exhaust all options when you aren't conventionally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:46 PM
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Its funny how that gets dismissed when men are the ones being abused
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:48 PM
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I disagree. When there are social media posts, or videos, or even something said irl, along the lines of body shaming women, men have been told that they are essentially expected to police what other men say. Meanwhile, women will openly body shame men, and men are told they should ignore it, or they're insecure, bad people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 10:44 PM
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Men don't have the amount of options women do, so mass appeal is the better strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:51 AM
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"Why is it so bad to be in a dead bedroom where you're just an ATM to her?"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:35 AM
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Women have been complaining about men not wanting to date plus sized women since the 2010's lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:25 PM
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I love how this sub constantly proves size matters, while denigrating men for believing size matters, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:14 AM
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Yeah, I also don't do the "treat others better than they treat you"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:09 PM
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Once again, you are asking for sympathy from the wrong dude. You would be incredibly hard pressed to get sympathy fom me for just about anything women talk about. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 08:05 PM
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The last girl I dated cheated on me with someone who was supposed to be my best friend, body shamed me after I found out and then encouraged all of our mutual friends to body shame me. When I opened up about it, the response from both men and women revolved around the idea that I must have done something to deserve it, or i intentionally ignored what kind of person she was because she was hot. I'm not hiding behind general consensus, I'm telling you as someone who's been treated poorly by a part…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:51 PM
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If the general consensus with women is "it doesn't matter what happened, you made the choice to be there" when it comes to men, I do not see why you think its wrong for me to hold the same opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:39 PM
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Fun fact. Someone attempted one of those scams on me. It was so transparently clear what they were doing so I ignored them. If people choose to participate in something that's so blatantly clear then that's their own fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:38 PM
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One person does not change how the vast majority of women treat men who are treated poorly by their partners
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:33 PM
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Man you'd have a very strong argument if that logic was actually applied to men and women equally. But its not, since there isn't a single situation where women won't blame men for whatever happens to them in a bad relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:30 PM
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Again, are we pretending that women don't blame them for being sextorted?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:16 PM
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Yeah, so there's the problem. As far as women are concerned there will never be a situation that would be a 1-to-1 equivalency. Women will continue to insist that any negative experiences men have are solely the fault of those men because they choose to ignore red flags while insisting men shouldn't blame women for ignoring red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:08 PM
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I never made the claim that the justice system was against men. Which was her immediate response to my original comment. But you are correct. I feel about as much sympathy for womwn who choose to ignore red flags as women do for men who choose to ignore red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:04 PM
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Are we pretending that women DON'T blame men for being sextorted?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:58 PM
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So then we agree, if a woman ignores red flags and ends up in an abusive relationship, its her responsibikity for choosing to ignore those red flags
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:42 PM
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Can you please point to me where exactly i made that claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:33 PM
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Your argument would be a lot stronger if women didn't blame men for getting into toxic relationships and insisting they should have known before they got into said toxic relationship. It'd also help your argument if women weren't the ones saying they have a 6th sense for bad men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:27 PM
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You'd have to do same exact thing to attract a 2/10, so it really doesn't matter lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:42 PM
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I'm gonna end this conversation because I truly don't think you'd accept any example of women using men for their money, since as a woman it would never happen to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:23 PM
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Asking men for money just because you think they owe you money is using men for financial gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:09 PM
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Nah, you don't ask for money from some you haven't known for very long lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:02 PM
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Lmao asking for money isn't asking for help.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 05:27 PM
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And I'm sure you'd be perfectly fine with your friends asking for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 05:16 PM
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Except again, i wasn't dating them since I don't date. They were someone who was a friend at best, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:55 PM
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It wasn't a relationship, lmao it was someone I had known for less than a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:38 PM
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What can I say. I'm a master baiter. But yeah, I dare you to tell men who are 5'3 that their height has never been the direct cause of their dating problems, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 04:37 PM
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What are you talking about? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:42 PM
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All I'm taking from these three paragraphs is that at a certain height, I'm right, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:36 PM
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Personality does not change preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 02:23 PM
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Because gas and groceries hardly seems like using a man for his money. You do understand that you aren't entitled to someone else's gas and grocery money just because you have nice tits, right
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 01:51 PM
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You mean kinda like women wouldn't get used for sex if they didn't ignore red flags because she's tall? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 01:51 PM
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My stance is that no women are attracted to men who are below average height.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 01:50 PM
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Women have tried it on me, thinking that because they were sort of attractive they could get the ugly guy to pay for their gas, send them money for groceries. But I mean, if a woman has never experienced another woman trying to use them for money, i guess no one ever has. Men have never tried using me for sex, so clearly men have never tried using women for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 12:54 AM
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They get with a guy they don't find attractive, lead him on and make him believe he has a chance while asking for money, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:53 PM
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Women use men for financial gain, so it seems kinda equivalent to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:50 PM
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Im telling you how women in your dating range perceive the comments you make on here I do not care about short guys crying outbursts of insecurities, that are constant. Its annoying, not just to women dateable to you, everyone. I genuinely do not care how women feel about short men venting.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:41 PM
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Is being a housewife a bad thing? If she chooses to be a housewife to someone she's not attracted to, and builds resentment because she was unable to think farther than "I'm entitled to money" then thats on her. You will not change my mind. Nor will you be able to justify women using men for financial gain while insisting that their own decision making was out of their hands. You're the exact type of person who would help another woman cheat because she chose to be with someone she wasn't attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:39 PM
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I'm not playing the women are victims game. If a woman chooses to be with someone she's not attracted to, it's because he has some kind of financial stability she feels entitled to. Her building resentment for a man due to her own inability to think farther than "me want money" does not garner an ounce of sympathy or understanding from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:30 PM
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Get fucked, dweeb
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:24 PM
1

Sounds like their own dumbass fault, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:20 PM
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Home boy, you aren't pushing your fetishist onto me. While there's nothing wrong with being trans, telling people they hold no value unless they transition is wildly fucked. I'm so glad tall men are more likely to suffer heart attacks, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:20 PM
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To use him for the things or the money he has.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:15 PM
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Yeah, because short men are basically women to you? Lmao. Fucking freak.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 11:14 PM
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Except short women also aren't attracted to short men, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 10:52 PM
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Okay. I put myself in someone else's shoes. And ive come to the incredibly difficult choice, one i believe no one else could have made. In fact, they called me crying, telling me how amazing the choice is made was, and how we're the first ones to ever do it. I just wouldn't date someone i wasn't attracted to, lead them on for years and make them believe like I was attracted to them, only to build a resentment my own dumbass decision making lead to while blaming the person I'm lying to for that c…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 10:51 PM
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Because your question is based on the false premise that women who use men they aren't attracted to are the victims, and I'm not entertaining that idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 10:43 PM
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Oh I see. So when women body shame short men and outwardly claim they find short men physically unattractive, that advertises...that short men are good? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 10:41 PM
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And again, then fucking don't date men you aren't attracted to. I swear you're like a 2nd grader who insists 2+2 is 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 10:32 PM
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I am not attracted to men shorter then me, unless they are very beautiful, this is true! Congrats, you have the same standards as every woman. How quirky and unique. Do you know your posts advertise to young women to not date guys shorter then them, ever? I can comfortably dismiss this idea. Women who have one bad expefience with short men and then generalize and write off all short men were never actually attracted to short men. If that was the case, those same women would generalize and write …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 10:31 PM
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Yes. 2006. The time when women were cometely forbidden from having a job, a bank account, her own home, or literally any assets. They just have no choice but to use those evil men who only want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 10:19 PM
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Then don't date people you aren't attracted to. Its literally not that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 10:08 PM
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These women are not using guys consciously, they are following the social script and doing what is available to them. These guys are using the women too. Thinking you should get to have sex with someone cuz you pay for everything... The fucked up Look at that. Shifting the blame from women because "they don't even know they're using men they know they aren't attracted to" :) while simultaneously wagging your finger at the men they're choosing to use because those men want a sex life with the per…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 09:53 PM
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Don't worry about it, lmao. We're not gonna agree on this, your view that women using men makes women victim of those circumstances is absolute mumbo gumbo
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 09:49 PM
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I'm a swinger That explains a lot. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 09:44 PM
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No, no. You don't get it. The fact that women wouldn't date short men without celebrity level fame and fortune PROVES that they're actually very attracted to short men. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 09:39 PM
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Got it. So when womwn use men, its because men are bad people. And when men use women its because men are bad people. Lmao, if only women could say no to men they don't find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 08:40 PM
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Lmao, okay. So I guess we could say that men who use women for sex do it because ethey actually really care about the women they use
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 08:31 PM
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I'm sure their massive wealth had nothing to do with it. Money doesn't make women attracted to you. They're just attracted to the money
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 08:22 PM
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Do women tend to body shame the body types they like?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 08:21 PM
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And if you're 5'3, there is nothing you could possibly do to be attractive to women, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:43 PM
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Its a good thing I said height is an example and not the only example.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:40 PM
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If height were as un-important as you made eit out to be, height filters wouldn't be a thing because no one would use them. Most of women's preferences act as requirements more than suggestions, so yes. I would say they're mostly set in stone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:40 PM
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Yes, lmao. Height is a perfect example of that. There has literally never been a time in history where being a short dude was ever considered attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:34 PM
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You can't change women's preferences, no matter how much you change yourself, sorry. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:29 PM
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I think traits that are considered unattrsctive would negate any effort in becoming more attractive. You can't change women's preferences no matter how much you change yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:29 PM
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Sorry, you can't learn how to be attractive. You either are or you're not, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 06:16 PM
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Personally I'm all for listening to women. They may claim certain things do or don't matter. Butbthey'll definitely body shame those things anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:07 PM
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All of that is easy to fake. Its usually what women do when they're using someone as the safety net
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 10:27 PM
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You mean outside of your comment about TikTok being the only evidence they have? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:53 AM
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Kinda like you dismiss negative experiences because "women don't do that" or "that's never happened to me, so its never happened to anyone"? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 01:29 AM
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Nor are Tiktok and Instagram but that is pretty much the sole source of "evidence" for red pill these days It would sure be a shame if any men actually had this kind of experience IRL. It'd take the wind right outta this whole "it only happens on TikTok" argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 12:58 AM
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Home dawg, 3/10 women want 10/10 men, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 12:57 AM
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The fact that they're willing to use those men, lead them on, lie to them and fake an attraction that they do not have, all so they can have access to a bank account is proof that they do not care for those men as people. You are asking for sympathy from the wrong person, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 12:01 AM
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Maybe, maybe not. I can't fault her if she's consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 11:47 PM
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Yes, won't you think of the women who choose to use men they don't even care about, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 11:45 PM
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No, lmao. Because that would imply that physical attraction doesn't matter. Women don't get to know someone they aren't physically attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 11:02 PM
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If all it takes is attraction to make them aroused, they're more attracted to their one night stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 11:01 PM
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Home boy, no one is afraid of rejection. If I wanted to continue ue getting the same answer over and over and over again, and conti ually waste my time and effort, I would. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 10:14 PM
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But average men tend to be convinced that if she doesn't have visceral attraction for him, then she doesn't like him. Most women historically have never had visceral attractions to their husband. That doesn't mean a real sexual attraction was absent. It was reactive. If you need to prove to someone why they should be attracted to you, they aren't attracted to you
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 10:11 PM
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If a woman is willing to hookup with a guy on a first date, knowing its going to be a one night stand, but makes the person she wants a relationship with wai, she is more attracted to the one night stand than the person she deemed "boyfriend material"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 10:09 PM
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Size queens are the most vocal about body shaming, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 10:55 PM
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That's why I said depending on the toy, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 10:54 PM
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Most women who prefer those toy sizes also typically prefer those sizes on actual men, and tend to body shame anyone who aren't up to that standard
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:50 PM
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Many women use sex toys WITH their partner, plus the toy itself is not another person nor does it represent another person Depending on what the toy is, its literally meant to replace the actual dick, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:48 PM
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Ooh okay, gotcha. I'm a dumb dumb, so thats my bad
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 02:11 AM
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Wait, so good sex is when only women get to finish? Lmao lr am I misinterpreting what you're saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 01:57 AM
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How often do women go out of their way to get to know men they find unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:13 PM
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Right, but for some people, having everything they could ever want, might still feel empty if literally no one loves them, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 12:50 AM
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And if they refuse to make the changes necessary to attain the goal they have self imposed, then fuck em, I don’t care about their sadness anymore. They could literally get plastic surgery and become a “chad” in a couple years. I mean if we follow their logic I mean you never cared, the fact that you want me to feel sympathy for women, who don't have sympathy for unattractive men is just proof of that, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 02:39 PM
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My point is not that these dudes NEED to have surgery to find a woman. My point is that is the logical end point of their thinking. If the world is only based on looks/status and these guys want to live the life of a man with looks and status, it seems like plastic surgery is the only way to fix their problems if they are ugly. They want a solution, there it is. Get money and get your face fixed. If women do it what is their excuse. It seems like they just want to complain they weren’t born hot …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 02:29 PM
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Home dawg, there's something going horribly wrong if you think giving up your hobbies and spending upwards of 100k on surgeries that may or may not work, just to attract shallow women is worth it, lmao. I do not care that women are held to standards that make them feel like they need to get surgery, thats their own choice and I hold no responsibility for their actions, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:46 AM
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I'm sure, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:44 AM
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Wait, wait, wait, are you saying you can’t FORCE people to like you lmao Idk exactly what kind of world you are asking for here bud Again, there's a difference between "you owe me" and "self-improvement doesn't matter". Its odd that you think think those sentences mean the exact same thing, lmao. If you really are that ugly as a dude in this hypothetical, what’s your excuse for not getting plastic surgery if it’s holding you back that much. I mean that’s under the self improvement umbrella "Why …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:22 PM
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"Here's my one example it working, versus the countless times it doesn't" Congrats, you know what an outlier is, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:11 PM
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That confidence gained (self-improvement) along with finding themselves and what they enjoy, along with a widening of their social circle (hobbies) will absolutely give them a better chance at finding someone who genuinely likes them. They HAVE to de center women by finding value within themselves And guess what? No matter how much they self-improve, if they're still physically unattractive, then women still won't like them, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 09:09 PM
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So the guy is also lazy and doesn't go out to meet people. Are we pretending that the outcome would be any different? If an ugly guy approached you, would you be interwsted in getting to know him? Probably not, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:37 PM
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I'm not entitled to anything, lmao. Sorry, physical attraction is a non-negotiable in relationships. And recognizing that your perosnality is not a substitute for physical attraction is not the same thing as entitlement. But I'm sure your immediate move to insult has nothing to do with the fact that you have no actual argument for what I actually said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 08:35 PM
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Being shitty doesn't matter, since women don't go out of their way to meet unattractive men, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:28 PM
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You should consider stand up, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:28 PM
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fixing themselves includes mental health, emotional intelligence, confidence, social skills, hobbies, intelligence, etc. And if a women don't find you physically attractive, you won't have the time of day to show any of those traits to them. Women are not going out of their way to get to know unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 07:27 PM
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But that's unrelated to everything here. Nice guys will hate on jocks & chads for no reason outside of jealousy and insecurity. We aren't all rapists, thank god. Maybe jocks aren't as nice as you think they are? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:43 PM
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Their fixation on dating not being fair isn’t some novel new concept, it’s just the same ole tired shit and they can’t look in the mirror and fix themselves, so they blame the world for their problems. You can't fix physical appearance enough for it to matter, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:42 PM
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"It could" and "half the time" are doing a lot of heavy lifting here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:14 PM
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Does that $10 guarantee success? How many more times will i have to "only spend $10 dollars" before it works? Gambling money on anything that isn't going to work in your benefit a vast majority of the time is a waste of money that i could be putting toward things I like doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 12:38 PM
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Yes, I know. Women are entitled to that money, aren't they? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 11:47 AM
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If you think someone using you for money is a prize, then that's your issue, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 04:39 AM
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Or she should pay for her own drink, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 03:25 AM
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Home dawg, if your success depends on spending money, its not you she likes, its the money she likes, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 03:06 AM
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If a woman is only staying around because you're spending money on her, she likes the money, not you. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 03:01 AM
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A very reasonable take here. Men doing this are probably shooting themselves in the foot and ruining their chances at getting laid or getting a girlfriend over like $40 on a first date. If a man's success depends on how much money he's willing to spend on a date, then i wouldn't really call that shooting himself in the foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:57 AM
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I think that it depends on who you talk to. Personally, I wouldn't do anything to protect anyone if it didn't benefit me, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:52 AM
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Homeboy no one actually believes that physical attraction is negotiable, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:50 AM
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Personally, I'm pretty fine with the gender wars, as an unattractive dude i don't benefit from men and women getting along, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:49 AM
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I can promise you the worse thing is not rejection, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:47 AM
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Fuckin' for real. Women were white knighting for Lizzo so goddamn hard it was kind of embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:40 AM
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As a short dude, I would never have to, because women aren't asking short men out, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:36 AM
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Men care because women body shame? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 06:09 PM
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Effort doesn't substitute physical attraction lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:54 AM
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Except you have no say in who filters you out. This whole argument only works for men who are conventionally attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:18 AM
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So, you continue to filter and filter and filter, until once again, you filter too much and no one is left. Men do not have the luxury that women do, where their dating pool is a game of pick and choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:15 AM
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Your solution only works if the women a man filters himself down to also find that man attractive, when in reality a majority of those women will have filtered that man out themselves for a variety of reasons. The man reduces his dating pool down to a specific type of women, and then that pool is reduced even further by women filtering themselves out of that man's dating pool. You can only do so much filtering before there's no one left, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 04:10 AM
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Men already have a significantly smaller dating pool than women, narrowing it down even further would result in almost no success, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 03:08 AM
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At that point you may as well never have women for friends because you don't get to choose you fall for
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 02:11 AM
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Women are fine with men expressing romantic feelings as long as those men follow rules 1 and 2
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:29 PM
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R.I.P.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:26 PM
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Lmao, okay. I guess I should have seen that coming. "Women have never once body shamed anyone!" I've never seen men randomly body shame plus sized women, so that must never happen either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:33 PM
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Women body shame short men and men with small dicks all the time, lmao. So again, if its okay to body shame those two demographics, then you should also support body shaming women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:28 PM
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Then feminists should drop the body positivity movement and stop harming on "toxic beauty standards" when there's nothing toxic about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:25 PM
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If your stance is not all men should be treated as if their body is beautiful, then you should also believe not all women should be treated as though they're beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:16 PM
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Would you say AOC is a feminist?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:01 AM
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Denying it doesn't change reality lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:57 AM
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Feminists absolutely do, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:52 AM
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They care so little that they body shame men as much as they complain about being body shamed
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:45 AM
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You're lying to yourself if you actually think your partner would agree that you cheating on them is good for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:21 AM
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Yeah, I dare you to tell your partner that you cheated on them for their benefit, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:11 AM
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Feminists still uphold gender roles and strict beauty standards for men all while blaming the patriarchy for their choice in continuing to uphold those values.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:01 AM
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Aren't model kits just collectibles?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 07:56 AM
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If you don't get an entry ticket because you're not attractive, none of those skills even matter, do they? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:50 PM
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Even when men accept the no, women aren't that nice about it lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:47 PM
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There are at least two subs that are specifically for men that women tend to go into just to dismiss their experiences, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:40 AM
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No, because self-improvement won't matter to anyone who isn't already conventionally attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:19 AM
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Unattractive women are still just as shallow as attractive women, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 01:16 AM
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Kindness without being physically attractive will not get you anywhere lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 04:51 PM
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No I don't particularly subscribe to any "pills" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:29 AM
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Oh, I'm not attractive enough to manipulate women, lmao. I just don't feel all that much sympathy for the people who do get manipulated
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 08:52 PM
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And yet manipulative men are still successful, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 07:50 PM
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If a woman falls for the manipulation, thats her own fault, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:39 PM
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If that were true, height filters wouldn't exist because there wouldn't be a demographic to cater to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 08:41 PM
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I'm really not, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:41 PM
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I really don't. If someone rejects you because they aren't attracted to short men, then that means they aren't attracted to you. That is inherently what rejection is. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 07:21 PM
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You wouldn't be noting that your partner isn't attractive because of X, if you didn't wish they could change X.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 07:18 PM
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Lmao, do you even hear yourself? "Just because someone tells you they aren't attracted to you because of X, doesn't mean they aren't attracted to you because of x"??
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 07:14 PM
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No, lmao. I have never once looked at someone i was genuinely attracted to and thought to myself "this makes them less attractive, I wish they could change their body"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:19 PM
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If men are being rejected for one physical criteria, then yes it can
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:27 PM
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If it increases attraction then there is an inherrent lack of attraction, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:27 PM
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I'm sure being a famous, most likely wealthy actor, negates being short, but how many men are going to become rich, famous actors? Its entirely unrealistic. You'd have a point, but let's face it, women aren't going out of their way to get to know someone they've already deemed unattractive, so none of it would matter regardless. Its not defeatist, its just how the world works. There is not someone out there for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:24 PM
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Your argument can be immediately dismissed based on your own statements. You've already said women consider short men unattractive, that is not the same as starting off average and sliding one way or the other. If someone already considers you unattractive because of an immutable trait that you were born with, there is no convincing them that you are anything other than unattractive. Sure, maybe they'll like your personality. But as I said before, liking someone's personality is not a substitute…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 02:36 PM
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Right, so you're attracted to their personality. The fact that you're preference is tall men means that even if you aren't immediately attracted to them, they still have that extra point. Whereas a short man has to put in an nonsensical amount of effort to make up for the lack of points that he starts off with. If you have to prove to someone why they should be attracted to you, then they aren't attracted to you. Being attracted to someone's personity is not a substitute for a lack of physical o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 04:06 AM
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There has been been a society in history that the reason women are with their man is because he is attractive. Being 'attractive or being loved has always been a holistic measure to include your personality, how you make someone feel etc Being attracted to someone's personality is not the same thing as being physically attracted to or sexually attracted to them. Without either of those two, you're still left with a one-sided relationship. I'm not moving goal posts, I'm saying the exact same thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 03:25 AM
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Did you have a crush on him because you immediately thought he was attractive? Or did you have a crush on him after getting to know him?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 02:59 AM
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A lot of this is nothingburger. Sure, short men can get well-paying jobs, but that doesn't mean a eoman is attracted to them, it means they're most likely attracted to the money. A short man could be super funny and charismatic. But that doesn't substitute physical attraction. Unattractive women still prefer attractive men, so that would also be a waste of time, lmao. There seems to be a lot of men who are not objectivey attractive upset that most women dont view them as objectively attractive, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 10:42 PM
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Really all OP is arguing for is women using unattractive men as ATMs while they go bang attractive dudes, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 10:38 PM
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I think its odd that you believe most men would choose to be cucked instead of just not being with that woman, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 06:29 PM
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Most unattractive men, right wing or not, would not benefit from that scenario, so most unattractive men would also like to prevent it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 06:08 PM
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If there wasn't a lack of attraction, short men wouldn't have to work harder to be considered attractive lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 05:25 AM
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Personally, I'm not that interested in dating someone who isn't physically attracted to me, lmao. I don't really see why men would put in extra work into getting into a relationship where the attraction was purely one-sided.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:49 AM
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I think the problem is all of what you're saying is completely acceptable for people to say UNLESS you're part of the demographic that women don't prefer. Women and tall dudes can go on and on about how women in general prefer tall men, but when a short dude says he gave up on dating because most women prefer tall men, acknowledging the preference is suddenly incel speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 11:26 PM
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And a modicum of success would most likely build, or at least begin to develop some form of confidence. Sooner or later, the person being given a chance would succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/25 01:40 AM
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One is afforded a chance while the other is not, so clearly one is more important than the other
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 09:40 PM
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Confidence doesn't matter without physical attraction, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 09:07 PM
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No, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:30 AM
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I don't even watch porn, lmao. As someone who has experience with women while being not-so well-endowed, women aren't very kind about it lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 04:18 PM
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I think you're just operating under the idea that there's someone out there for everyone. And there isn't. Sometimes it doesn't matter what you do to improve, some people will still never be attractive enough to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 07:31 PM
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Except, again, you still need physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 06:50 PM
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Except physical attraction is a non-negotiable for relationships, so if you're ugly no amount of conversations and interests is going to help, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 06:37 PM
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I mean, I was also against the abortion ban, I don't think its anyone's business.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:31 PM
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Thats wild, I can't really imagine wanting to make rape legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:33 PM
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You genuinely believe men would support legalizing rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:09 PM
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This is such an extreme take. No one except rapists would want this, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:34 PM
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Home dawg, physical attraction will always be the most important part of this aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 04:04 PM
1

I don't think any straight dude would want that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 09:29 AM
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In what world is looking at someone a sign that you're interested in them? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 08:34 AM
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I can promise you that there is not, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 05:34 AM
1

And what about men who watch porn because no women find them attractive enough? Should they give up their only source of sexual release just because it makes women who don't even like them feel a certain way? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 03:22 AM
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Seeing as how my example was "cuddling and holding hands after rejection" from the very start, i think it should be pretty clear that I'm not talking about men who aren't attracted to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 02:08 AM
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Thats fine, i wasn't trying to imply otherwise. But you can't criticize men for using porn as an outlet when women have decided that they're too unattractive to be with, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 01:25 AM
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In some cases yes, most cases it was expected that I drop anything i was doing to emotionally support them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 01:22 AM
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The problem comes if you had never done those kind of things up til after you rejected them. If you can't recognize why waiting until after you reject someone to start holding their hand and cuddling with them may be problematic then thats just a you issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 01:22 AM
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I seemed to be the guy they felt comfortable complaining to about things they didn't talk about with other people, lmao. This is all past tense though, I was just bringing up a small anecdotes about women not being the only ones who are expected to manage someone else's emotions
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:10 PM
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Being friends is not the same as faking interest. If you reject someone and then immediately start holding their hand, cuddling with them, you aren't a friend, you just like the attention. I use this specific example because its happened to me more than once
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:08 PM
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Nope, I did not have that experience at all, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:04 PM
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smallboobsupremecy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:04 PM
7

This is just straight up not true, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:02 PM
5

I'm not sure how true that is. I had the immense displeasure of being the "safe guy" that women would constantly vent to about anything that slightly inconvenienced them. I'm not even sure where they got the idea that I was safe to vent to lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:00 PM
1

I think it depends on the dude. As someone who women wouldn't fuck even if they were paid to, I would be 100% fine with any woman doing exactly this lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:56 PM
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As a dude who women wouldn't fuck even if they were paid to, I 100% would be totally thrilled to have women desire me that way lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:54 PM
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Because that still requires getting more than just rejection? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:50 PM
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Because they bitch about "Male Loneliness Epidemic" when they're usually the victims of their actions, but would rather blame society and feminists the consequences of their own actions. Isn't the Male Lonliness thing about men who CAN'T get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 04:32 PM
7

No one is forcing their partner to act like a porn star.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:32 AM
7

Watching porn doesn't hurt women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:26 AM
7

I don't think anyone has blamed smut for high standards the same way women complain about porn for higher standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:23 AM
6

But you wouldn't date someone without physical attraction."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 11:20 AM
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If thats happening, then women need to pick better partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:48 AM
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Smut is written by women, for women. Its not actors and its not Hollywood, lmao. Women describe men who are conventionally attractive for a reason, and its not because personality is more important. Personality has never been more important, those super funny dudes would still be single if someone didn't find them physically attractive, physical attraction is a non-negotiable in relationships. Yes, women want men to treat them well, but they want attractive men to treat them well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:47 AM
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Because it is about looks, or is it just a coincidence that there are no men in these stories who are even slightly average in any metric? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:39 AM
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And not a single male leads on those stories falls short of the typical conventionally attractive dudes. They're all tall, dark and handsome. If those books described anyone with those same personalities but as someone who looked like your average guy, women wouldn't be reading them. I don't have a girlfriend, so I won't be doing that, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:33 AM
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I think this is more about women finding ways to demonize men's sexual fantasies while acting like women's are somehow morally better.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:30 AM
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Porn has never stopped men from dating women either, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:25 AM
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Not talking about OF. THAT IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THING. We are talking about the difference between porn and smut. OF May be pornographic, however, it is in the hands of the creator rather than somebody posting videos on a website, primarily without others consent (i.e revenge porn), and porn stars who have almost no say whatsoever in what they are allowed to shoot. I'd consider them the same thing, but i also don't watch either. Have you ever read a smut book?? It's usually about a man who …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:24 AM
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Every male leads in smut is an extremely wealthy man who's every trait is specifically above average and conforms to every conventional beauty standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:19 AM
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Most women on OF aren't being forced into it. And i highly doubt men want to read stories about women fawning over extremely rich, conventionally attractive dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:17 AM
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Yes, yes. Porn bad, men should have no outlet for their sexual frustrations.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:11 AM
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I don't think anyone is struggling to get dates specifically because of porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:04 AM
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Yeah, sounds the same to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:04 AM
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Smut is centered around women's pleasure and all the male leads follow the exact definition of traditional male beauty standards. You're just trying to separate women being horny and men being horny by making one a morality issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 10:01 AM
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Smut is just porn for women, its literally no different.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:56 AM
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So women who read smut are also problematic, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/25 09:48 AM
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Except you're taking this one instance and pretending like this is the usual case for instances when women cheat, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 04:13 PM
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You understand that women choosing to disregard a label because she's a shitty person, doesn't actually negate the fact that there was a label? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 03:40 PM
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Silly men, women don't cheat, the relationship was all in your head. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/25 02:52 PM
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And if you do even the smallest amount of reading, you'll never actually see a woman saying she prefers smaller. They may say they'll be okay with it, as long as someone can make up for it. But the fact that women believe its a short coming that needs to be made up for is proof in and of itself. But you'll have a hard time finding a woman who isn't outright saying she prefers bigger. And once again, thats not because its something only men care about lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 11:45 PM
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You mean I haven't gotten picked by people who cheat the moment it's convenient? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 03:59 PM
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I think we just covered the fact that women, in fact, also complain about size. Hence the whole "women only body shame men for being small"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 08:58 AM
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Yeah, thats not because men are psyching themselves out, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 08:54 AM
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Because all the things feminists supposedly oppose as symptoms of the evil patriarchy, only oppose them when it specifically affects them. Modern beauty standards are evil because they're toxic, how dare men expect women to be conventionally attractive. Also, men need to be conventionally attractive and how dare you question our preferences, incel. Body shaming is bad, unless its a short man or a man with a small dick, then if that person is body shamed, feminists have ten billion reasons why it…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 08:50 AM
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Yes, I'm sure having the exact same preference as literally every woman must make you feel very special, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:21 AM
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Do women body shame men for being well-endowed as much as they body shame men for being smaller?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:19 AM
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If part of the cause for the best sex was a size difference, no. You absolutely cannot recreate that lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:17 AM
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Learning how to stimulate the clit is gonna get you much farther than penis length. Doesn't matter how well you actually do, she's still gonna be body shaming you and not calling back if you're not big enough lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:14 AM
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I think its the obvious difference in physical and sexual attrsction that men have an issue with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:13 AM
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If it's one rejection here or there, I don't necessarily see an issue. If they've had consistent rejection without any type of success, then i could see that affecting their self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:06 AM
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If someone already hates themselves and faces rejection, not once, but consistently without a single ounce of success, i could see them feeling that way
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 05:05 AM
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I'm just going off what ive been told over and over again, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 08:44 PM
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I mean, we've been told that women "just know" when someone is bad news, so i don't see how women would even fall for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 08:36 PM
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Personally, I wouldn't wanna be with someone wasn't attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 04:25 PM
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That wouldn't necessarily change the premise that those less attractive men had to put in far more work, for more likely less quality sex than a dude who's just attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 04:21 PM
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I don't think men who don't visit escorts want to date woman who sleeps with other men for money
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 10:37 PM
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Except women aren't advocating for a middle ground for everything. Feminism has been painting dating preferences that men have as "toxic beauty standards" created by the patriarchy and gender roles. And have been expecting men to change those preferences and beauty standards. Meanwhile any critisism of women's preferences when they align with those exact same beauty standards and gender roles will always be met with "incel" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 12:36 AM
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I think there's a bit of a difference between men having a fantasy, and women believing men should be okay with their partner actually going out and fucking other people
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 05:39 PM
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Yeah, I've always thought it was weird how women thought that if a man watched porn, that man should be okay with his gifting fucking other people, like that's somehow the same thing. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 05:08 PM
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Women also blame the patriarchy for modern beauty standards, while perpetuating beauty standards for men. So you can't be that against the patriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 07:16 AM
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Home dawg, ive been listening to women my whole life and women are still telling me I'm wrong. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 07:14 AM
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insert generic "Nuh-uh, you!" Arguement
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 11:52 AM
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In my argument sub? I don't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 07:34 PM
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"Just look at this one outlier" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 04:16 AM
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Where did i say they couldn't? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 04:14 AM
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I'm pretty sure every straight man knows what women are attracted to. Just be tall. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 03:34 AM
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You could see it that way, and thats fine. But how many women care about the standards short men are held to? And how many women care and speak up about short men being body shamed? Pretty much zero. If you're expecting me to be more considerate for "the standards women are held to" while both women and the tall men they simp for completely dismiss short men, then I'd say you're lacking in logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 03:33 AM
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Lmao, no, I'm not watching that because a couple of staged YouTube videos doesn't actually prove anything
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 12:56 AM
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I'm not watching that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 12:54 AM
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Being good at socializing won't matter if you aren't attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 12:50 AM
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And that wouldn't have happened without physical attraction. Unless you're trying to say attraction isn't needed for a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 12:50 AM
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Not without physical attraction, they don't lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 10:11 PM
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Rarely. Unattractive women, also prefer tall, attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 09:59 PM
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Very rarely will you see "out of his league." But extremely often you'll see "out of her league." So lets not try and pretend like they happen at a similar rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 09:52 PM
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I do not care about the standards women are held to.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 09:51 PM
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You see average people dating average people, and that proves what for unattractive people? Lmao. Talking does nothing if there's no physical attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 09:47 PM
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Women aren't going out of their way to talk to unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 09:43 PM
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Confidence doesn't matter if she isn't attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 09:36 PM
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Yeah, thats because tall offsets fat. Women in general don't find short attractive, no matter what build. So, again. Looks are the only things that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 09:13 PM
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I go outside daily. I have yet to see a short, fat, unattractive man in a relationship. I've seen plenty tall, fat men in relationships though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 08:44 PM
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Looks are about the only thing that matters. I can guarantee that there are more socially skilled unattractive men who struggle than there are socially inept attractive men struggling. People who use the same logic as you love the phrase, "looks open doors, but personality makes them stay," but completely ignore the first part of that sentence. If looks open doors, then personality only matters if you're attractive enough to open said door.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 08:39 PM
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I'm sure its just coincidence that the ones who "lacked social skills" were unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 08:35 PM
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Attractive people tend to be more confident because they aren't treated as poorly, or rejected at anywhere near the same rate as unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 08:34 PM
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Social skills and the ability to get a girlfriend are not the same thing. One doesn't require physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 07:12 PM
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Except there is zero benefit to being unattractive, so that doesn't really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 07:12 PM
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I mean, if having intelligence and wit doesn't matter unless you're already met the "physical attraction" threshold, then they don't really matter at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:47 PM
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Except women don't care about personality unless you've already met the "physical attraction threshold". You can improve your personality all you want, if you don't cross that attraction line, it won't matter. So, no. Lmao, personality is nowhere near as important as looks
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 04:43 PM
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downwiththetalls
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 12:07 PM
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I'd prefer one of those stories where you find out the main character is actually already dead, they're just a ghost stuck in limbo or something lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 12:04 PM
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Hero movies are a little played out tho
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:39 AM
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There's a difference between acknowledging that something is temporary and going in telling yourself that you're what you're doing will fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:26 AM
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Lmao, well I hate the journey too. The story sucks ass and the main character is a bumbling baffoon.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:25 AM
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Right, but that's a little different. If you start something, convinced it's going to fail, you're probably not going to put all that much effort into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:05 AM
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I ask myself that question every time I wake up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:03 AM
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That's why I liked being in a band. Formed lifelong brotherhoods.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 01:02 AM
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Shamed is better. Tall guys love to push the "height doesn't matter" because their height isn't detrimental, so let them experience it themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 11:26 PM
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Or just don't waste your time on it at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 09:38 PM
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If you're dating with the end already in mind, what's even the point? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 09:35 PM
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It's all the same stuff every day, work, music, and games. Nothing new. I think i got shadowbanned or something from IT, which one hand hand is fine, but also I have one less sub to argue in when I feel like arguing. Most people here use the same arguments as they do though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 08:45 PM
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Now this is what I'm talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 05:35 PM
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I would push for women to body shame tall men, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:36 PM
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Confidence, grooming, style, personality, and everything else will always be less important than being physically attractive. None of these things will ever be taken into account if you aren't attractive enough. I know people love that saying, "looks open doors but personality makes them stay," but ignore the heavy implication that doors will stay closed if there's no physical attraction, making that personality completely worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 04:31 PM
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Women have equated tall men to being strong and safe and short men to being weak and dangerous. It isn't just men who do it. And in a magical world, without the evil patriarchy, women would still perpetuate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 02:19 AM
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I'm saying women would keep elements of that "evil patriarchy" that they are totally fine with
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 02:17 AM
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If we lived in a magical world where everyone treated women with respect, women would still body shame short dudes and men who aren't well-endowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 01:19 AM
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Yes, yes. Men under 5'5 don't count because they aren't the majority. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:36 AM
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Being wrong twice over the course of a certain amount of years proves nothing, especially since I haven't been wrong since. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 01:51 AM
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Lmao, the more you hang around people, the easier it is to figure out if they'd be into you. Again, it's not that difficult. I tried plenty when I was young. I was only wrong twice, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 01:48 AM
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But here is my point - when you are 15 and you like a few girls, surely you're going to ask your friends about that and your family before you land in these toxic spaces and resort to whining? It's not venting spaces, advice spaces, or anything like that coming out in Pill theory. It's actually hateful, sometimes. No, lmao. When I was 15 I just didn't ask them out because I already knew the answer. It really isn't that difficult. And what is this average or big picture? That isn't how people liv…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 01:34 AM
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It is unimportant to the big picture because no matter how you look at it, they're still the minority and it will not be the average experience. Lmao, no. No one wants to listen to another short dude whine about dating. That's what reddit is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 01:24 AM
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One of those stats are unimportant since they only apply to a small minority of people. It's like encouraging people to play the lottery because you might win once.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 01:13 AM
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Can't help but notice that despite how often women on here say height isn't a big deal, every woman here still wants a tall man, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 12:43 AM
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Oh boy. "Just keep getting rejected by the 95% of women who find short men unattractive and maybe you'll meet one of the 5% of women who will settle for a short guy" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 12:20 AM
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I'm not a hot wife with a short husband so idk how you came to that conclusion. I didn't say you were. Just said that you sounded like her. Lmao. You aren't going to be physically unattractive to every girl you approach. Go ahead and tell me how you know though. I'm sure you approach 10 or 20 girls then gave up. There's a difference between wanting to be attractive to everyone and not wanting to be unattractive to everyone because of an immutable trait. Wrong! Sexual attraction has to happen bef…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 11:55 PM
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And those men have still been rejected for being short, no amount of "nuh-uh" changes that, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 11:52 PM
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What are you talking about? Lmao, I'm 5'3. I am saying this because this is my experience. I do know more about it than you do because I lived it. I'm telling you statistics because the idea that all you have to do is just approach people is nonsensical. I could approach and continue to ask questions I already know the answer to, but what's the point? It's inevitably just a waste of everyone's time. There's no place to help because there's no fix to it. You can't change women's preferences. Ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 11:36 PM
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I know multiple short men who get women. I know short men who are married. I've seen short men get laid at sex parties. Touch grass and you'll see short men with women too. Lmao, at sex parties? Oh boy. You sound like the mod in the short subreddit who goes on and on about how "amazing" short men are because her husband is shorter, while also bragging about being a hotwife and going out and fucking men taller and more attractive than her husband all while pretending that she's a shining example …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 11:28 PM
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Quite a few. No, it isn't. You're being a contrarian because you want to be right. Not because what you're saying is true. Yes, just walk up to people, talk to them, and gauge their interest. And if no one is interested because of what you look like? How exactly is not being born with the correct immutable trait a skill issue? Like I said, there's more to sex than dick size. Between well-endowed men and men who aren't, women only body shame one size. There's a reason for that. You can "please" a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:56 PM
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Except, women's height preference is an observable and probable trend. I'm sure its easy for you to call it a numbers game, knowing the vast majority of women aren't going to tell you that you're too short to date. It doesn't matter who pursues who since either way, most women will not find short men attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:53 PM
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Congratulations, being tall and healthy-looking or even movie star level handsome can be a good thing especially if you go after movie star type women for yourself. The Hell are the majority of men on the internet, or women, going to do about it? Nothing. It's not relevant for normal people. I've never once dated anyone over 6 feet making 6 figures lmao. I am happily married though. The internet discourse of men doesn't reflect this typical reality. That's the problem. Except it's extremely rele…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:39 PM
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Why would we say this? You haven't even defined short. Can you provide a peer reviewed study showing that 95% of women men refuse to date or sleep with men below what you consider short? Of all the women you know, how many of them would date a man under 5'5? I bet 1 or 2 at most. It's not about luck. It's about putting yourself out there and meeting the women who are right for you. And you think meeting the right people is a skill issue? Its entirely luck. It's just real life RNG. Women prefer b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:38 PM
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If not having something that isn't "necessary" immediately locks you out of being in the top 20%, then it is, in fact, necessary. Being short is a good example. People love to say being tall isn't necessary but the fact that the vast, vast majority of women do not consider short men attractive, immediately locks short men out of being in the top 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 09:06 PM
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If it weren't necessary, it wouldn't be an advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:59 PM
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Sure. If you ignore the fact that unattractive immutable traits compound. Let's say 95% of women find short men unattractive. That leaves 5%. 5% of half the population is still a big number, right? Except that 5% is spread across the world, and the world is a big place. You could go your entire life without meeting a single woman in that 5%. Look at that. You got super lucky. You met one of those 5%. But uh-oh. You have a small dick. Women don't like that. Now, that 5% decreases down to 2%. Good…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:53 PM
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The fact that the vast majority of women aren't attracted to short men immediately locks short men out from being in the top 20% no matter how hard they grind for it. Observable facts and trends seem to disprove your claims very easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:43 PM
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And if looks matter, then the vast majority of men could never be in the top 20%. You made the claim that looks matter but not in the way men think. And the claim that any man could be in the top 20% The sole fact that looks matter exactly as we both described disproves both of these claims. Since I'm describing exactly how men believe looks matter and you're agreeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:38 PM
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But again, your assertion that looks don't matter in the way men think they do can be dismissed solely based on the fact that physical attraction will always be an advantage. Confidence, personality, grooming, style, none of these things matter if there isn't already physical attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:35 PM
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"Looks matter but not in the way men think," If that were actually true, being tall and conventionally attractive wouldn't actually be an advantage, but they are. And that's because looks matter in exactly the way men think. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:27 PM
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I don't believe it because its just straight up not true, lmao. Do you still believe in Santa Claus, too? How many women do you know flocking to unattractive men because their personality is just so good? I would bet none, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 04:46 PM
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How many times do I have to repeat this? Personality does not matter. Clothes do not matter. Cars do not matter. If. You. Are. Not. Physically. Attractive. None. Of. Those. Things. Matter. Physical attraction will always be more important than any of those things. Also, you're absolutely out of your mind if you think an average woman is worth dropping 50k on any surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 02:28 PM
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And I'm telling you that I've heard and seen it plenty of times from plenty of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:09 AM
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Becauze the fact of the matter is that who you are as a person does not matter unless you are attractive. That is the only important factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/25 08:08 AM
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The women claiming that men need to speak up about women being body shamed are the same women who say men being body shamed can only be solved by other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 10:08 PM
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Lmao, so in other words, again, you're not being judged for anything other than your appearance? If one thing is deemed as okay and makes someone approachable because they're attractive, but the same exact thing is deemed as not okay and makes someone unapproachable becuase they 're unattractive, then at the end of the day the issue was never what they were doing in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 10:07 PM
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Halo effect. And attrsctice dude doing any of those "negative" things will still be chosen over an unattrsctive dude doing those "polite" things.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 09:03 PM
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Yeah, thats called judging their physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 04:04 PM
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I'm using a less extreme example. But sure, men with deformities have a much harder life than I do. But, I'm only short and unattractive so I can't speak on their experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 12:55 PM
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Again, you can't actually refute anything, so you go back to childish arguments and talking points. I'm not even using. If only a very small minority of women are willing to settle for someone shorter than them, how many women like that do you think a man would meet? Wanting to meet 1 is not the same as demanding a harem, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:46 AM
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Women would need to actually get to know someone before making that kind of judgment about them as a person. And women are so well-known to go out of their way to get to know unattractive men, right? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:42 AM
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Uh… no duh. Harder time /= impossible! Its not impossible to win the lottery. Go ahead and spend money until you get that jackpot. Tell me how it goes. I legit do not understand why men are so damn fatalist about this. THAT’S unattractive as fuck. The petty whiny baby-ness of it. If it’s so damn futile then what the hell is accomplished by bitching a moaning about it other than making yourselves even more miserable. I do not understand. Unattractive men seem to be the only ones who are acutely a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 11:41 AM
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most / The Vast Majority do not want short men. The point that I'm making that you are refusing to acknowledge is that women aren't rejecting short men because of their personalities. They're rejecting them because they're short. Personality does not factor in even the slightest bit, unless you are physically attractive. So being physically attractive will always be more important than having a good personality. You know, the number 1 thing on your list of things that men should change? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:41 PM
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It's a good thing I didn't talk about wanting to be worshiped then, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:33 PM
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So in other words, you can't even support your "its your personality," argument, so you result to childish arguments. Remind me, when did i demand a harem of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:13 PM
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That entirely depends on your definition of "plenty." If by "plenty," you mean a small minority that would settle for a short guy while still actively prefering tall men, then sure. The issue isn't about getting a plethora of pussy. The issue is physical attraction, or the lack of. You can't dismiss a massive trend and the vast majority of women just because they're inconvenient for your "actually its always about personality" argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 07:37 PM
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Women can't even get over being slightly taller than their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 06:49 PM
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Except this is kinda nonsense because a lot of what makes someone attractive is based on immutable traits, not how they dress or groom themselves. The fact that you avoid even speaking on those traits probably comes from the fact that you have no way to argue against it. Outside of "that doesn't happen, bro!" A short man with a fucked up face is going to do worse than a tall man with an average face, no matter how well the short man grooms and presents himself. In fact, we don't even have to go …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 06:48 PM
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You guys are the ones who keep coming up with every reason in the book to not blame physical appearance, so I'm not sure why you're acting like I'm the one who's not understanding something lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 06:42 PM
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I don't identify as an incel, but I am definitely a bit nihilistic. Personality only matters if your looks open that door first. I work out 6 days a week. You're out of your mind if you think that the average woman is worth sinking 50k into a possibly dangerous surgery. See 2 You mean basic hygiene? Lmao See 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:42 PM
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The problem is you're misunderstanding what "prioritizing personality" actually means. Intentionally or not, you don't get it. People prioritize personality after looks. If you're attractive and an asshole, you can most definitely talk your way out of a relationship. But if you're unattractive, you can't talk your way into one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:38 PM
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Women hand-wave publicly acknowledged trends like how the vast majority of women do not find short men attractive. Women also have a tendency to use the outliers and the minority of women who are willing to settle for short men as "proof that women don't care about height"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 06:09 AM
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Then what was the point of the comparison, if you know better? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 05:56 AM
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I’m not asking for sympathy. Where did you get that idea? I’ve been body shamed lots of times in my life. You get over it or you don’t. Apparently, you can’t move on. Oh. Sorry, am I supposed to pretend that women don't body shame men? Lmao And, I don’t understand your question. Did you leave a couple of words out or something because it doesn’t make much sense. Yeah, but thats my fault. I meant to ask why the most common insult a woman uses when a guy does something she doesn't like is "small d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 10:34 AM
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Are we pretending like the most common women use isn't small dick? Lmao Boy, if you're asking a guy who has been body shamed by women to have sympathy for women, you're barking up the wrong tree.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 04:40 AM
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And yet, there zero women body shaming well-endowed men. Is the logic that women actually body shame men they're attracted to? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 04:38 AM
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Anyway, I think I'm done with being dumb online for a minute, have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 04:24 AM
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Sure, if you pretend like I'm the only one who's had that experience, that could totally be a solution. But the fact remains that most women are perfectly fine with body shaming men who don't fit their preferred size.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 04:24 AM
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Oh, no. Actually, that was meant for a different person i was arguing with. Thats my bad, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 04:20 AM
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I think that women have a tendency to share more than they really should. And i believe that women have a tendency to body shame people that they know no one will stand up for.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 04:19 AM
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I find it extremely difficult to believe that you've actually never heard of men being body shamed by women for not being the size of a battering ram.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 04:14 AM
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Either way, it still leads to the same "small dick bad," thing, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 04:12 AM
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Oh, I forgot. Women are a monolith to y’all. She says as she uses the "it doesn't happen to me, so it doesn't happen" logic that literally every woman uses.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 04:09 AM
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Depends. If you like someone as a person and they make ten billion an hour, would you break up or ask them to use the extender?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 04:05 AM
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Remind me, do women body shame well-endowed men as much as they body shame men who aren't?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 03:59 AM
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And look, if it were that common, then why would women select partners based on their dick size ? If it was that common to "fix the size" with a toy anyway, then having a small dick wouldn't even be a problem for getting a woman. My guess is they provide something that almost offsets their size, but it doesn't really matter since the relationship ends after being told their partner isn't attracted to them, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 03:59 AM
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I didn't go actively looking for it until it started showing up in my feed multiple times a day, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 03:54 AM
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I've seen it on just about every subreddit, usually painting men as insecure tools for not wearing one, lmao. Fortunately no, no one has ever asked me to wear one. My last ex took the "encourage our friends to body shame me route".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 03:53 AM
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"It doesn't happen to women, so it doesn't happen at all" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 03:44 AM
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Its the "size doesn't matter" nonsense that you push the moment men talk about being body shamed for their size thats the problem. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 03:43 AM
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Yes, we all know how extraordinarily common it is for men to be asked to wear fake penises You could literally just go through reddit and you'd see how this request isn't that uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 03:35 AM
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Home dawg, I don't even watch porn. So the whole "this is porn's fault" doesn't really apply.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 03:35 AM
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No they don't. Until you ask men if this has ever happened and they confirm it has. A man's entire attractiveness isn't located squarely in his penis. Unless you think women have no idea if they are attracted to a guy unless and until they see his dick, this is a ridiculous argument If a woman would rather fuck a plastic toy than your actual physical body, she isn't attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 03:20 AM
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Nah, that shit is social suicide. You know, something women would never do to well-e dowed men. Gotta bring back to the actual point i was making.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 03:13 AM
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Home dawg, you just made a blanket statement that women don't body shame men. That is the same sentiment most people have. Admitting that it happened to anyone would do more harm to me than it would to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 03:07 AM
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My ex cheated and encouraged our friends to body shame me, to which women took part in. Just because you don't experience it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 02:53 AM
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Stop expecting to be a physically perfect or ideal person, none of us are, that doesn't mean someone can't be genuinely attracted to you. I mean, when a woman's partner isn't as big as she wants, they tend to ask men to wear fake dicks. I would argue that is pretty solid evidence that they aren't actually attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 02:52 AM
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Remind me, do women body shame well-endowed men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 02:41 AM
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Think more like bare minimum
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 02:20 AM
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Most women are size queens, anything below 6 is bad, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/25 02:17 AM
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People don't change, they get better at hiding who they are to get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 09:41 PM
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Lmao, and assholes don't stop being assholes once ethey make it out of high school. The idea that people suddenly start being super duper nice once they graduate is total nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 09:39 PM
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Probably because while attractive men are nice to women they wanna fuck, they don't feel the need to be kind to unattrsctive men, nor are women going to call them out for being assholes to unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 09:29 PM
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Attractive men are shallow, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 01:17 AM
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Home dawg, you're saying men should be discouraged from talking about being body shamed while making excuses as to why women shouldn't be. I don't think you know what the word hypocrisy means.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:44 AM
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So, do you also believe that women should be discouraged from talking about body shaming?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 07:07 PM
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Calling it "victim card whining" is a good way to discourage people without outright cencorship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 07:02 PM
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So, people shouldn't be okay with it but also shouldn't talk about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 06:59 PM
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Home dawg, OP's post will accomplish nothing because too many women think it's 100% okay and women aren't actually calling it out. Notice how OP has to say it's "weird" but can't say it's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 06:58 PM
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Okay, then can you actually explain why i should be okay with being body shamed for things outside of my control? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 06:57 PM
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Why would I not make that conclusion? You seem to imply that men should be okay with being body shamed, so i assumed that you would be consistent with your views.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 06:46 PM
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I'm assuming that you're consistent with your views and believe that women should also be okay with being body shamed?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 06:42 PM
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And notice how no women agree eith OP, OR are making excuses for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 06:21 PM
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It fell out of favor because it was called out. So again, how many women have you seen calling out other women for height and dick shaming? I'm going to assume that you didn't answer because the answer is you haven't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 06:17 PM
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Sure, when was the last time you saw women openly calling out women for body shaming short men? Or calling out other women for body shaming men with small dicks?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 06:08 PM
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It would take other women speaking out about it, which will never happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:54 PM
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Why would I be okay with it? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:53 PM
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Its almost like trends fade out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:37 PM
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Lmao, what? I'm saying most women do it but all women are okay with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:36 PM
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I'm gonna take a wild guess and say there's no world where that actually works.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:13 PM
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It really isn't. They could watch a woman body shame a guy for his height or dick size and they'll immediately jump to "women don't do that," as its happening in real time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 05:02 PM
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Home dawg, women can't even acknowledge that they body shame people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 04:18 PM
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I think the better argument is that the same women who call men out for body shaming are usually perfectly fine with body shaming certain types of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 04:18 PM
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That doesn't change the fact that women in general do, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 09:56 PM
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So if you do the same thing that you whine about men doing, why do you feel you 're owes sympathy? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 09:56 PM
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Kinda like women aren't privy to locker room talk, but you still act like you're an expert on the matter? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 09:55 PM
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If you wanna oversimplify things like that, then absolutely lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 06:32 PM
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No, I do not sympathize with women about being body shamed, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 06:29 PM
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Women body shame dme first, I didn't start it, but I'm not required to be nice just because they're women. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 06:28 PM
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You're asking someone who's been body shamed by women to have sympathy for women who are body shamed by men. Let me know how far you think that'll go, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 05:27 PM
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So if a woman says to a man, or on social media that she talks with her girls and size is included in those talks with her girls, its not girl talk? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 03:47 PM
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I would love to live in your world of make-believe where women don't body shame men. Unfortunately, we live in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 03:46 PM
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I have seen many women on Reddit and in real life admit that they share details, including size.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 03:28 PM
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Except women have no right to criticize when they do the exact same thing, no its not different when you do it just because you have tits.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 03:27 PM
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Lmao, girl talk is revealing things about your partner that would potentially lead him to getting body shamed and mocked?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 02:15 PM
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"Stop the teenage boy conversations." She says as she behaves like a teenage girl, gossiping about other people's bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/25 02:09 PM
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"I wouldn't have hooked up with you because you're husband material" is a pretty straight forward sentence, I'm not adding anything to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:52 AM
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I mean, I'm not gonna go back through my comment history to find the many times ive debated this to prove myself, I'm just saying that I've only ever heard and seen "husband material" used as a backhanded compliment
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:46 AM
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It's literally the only phrase I've heard women use "husband material" in
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:41 AM
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Or you could be rejecting him, since "boyfriend / husband material" has been used for rejection reasons, whereas "hookup material" literally has never been used to reject anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:24 AM
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"I would have never done this thing for you, that i would have done for someone else" is not a compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:14 AM
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If thats the case, then why do women feel the need to phrase it in the most backhanded way possible? It seems more like "plausible deniablitiy" in case he takes it the exact way you meant it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 03:08 AM
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That's not what I'm assuming, lmao. "I wouldn't have slept with you because you're husband / boyfriend material" heavily implies that you were never physically attracted to that person to begin with, only that you liked their personality or whatever else they brought to the table. And only after getting to know them would you be willing to sleep with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:58 AM
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Yeah, I've o ly ever heard it being said as "I'd never sleep with or hook up with you because you were husband material," And to me that just sounds like, "i wouldn't have slept with you because you're not all that attractive, but you're kinda nice and have money, so you're husband material"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:55 AM
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Except the way it's always said, always comes off as a backhanded compliment. It'd be one thing if women were to just say, "i see a future with you, and I'm attracted to you because you're husband material." Yet, EVERYTIME this conservation is brought up bywomen its always phrased as "i would have never hooked up with you because you're husband material." See how one confirms attraction, where the other implies a lack of attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 02:27 AM
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If her libido fizzled out, then there's no sex. So that defeats your entire argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:26 PM
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Sorry, so if 50/50 is a bad deal for women, and as you've said in another comment, if women's libido fizzled out during a relationship as you say it does, then really, you're just saying that women should be financially taken care of without actually doing anything in this "relationship"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/25 08:16 PM
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Women aren't a hive mind, but they're able to collectively agree which body types should and shouldn't be shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 03:27 PM
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With blackjack. And hookers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 07:41 PM
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Congrats, on being the first woman on PPD to ever agree with anything I've said, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 06:17 PM
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I think it's the possibility of meeting someone who will be willing and open to satisfy the woman. Orgasm gaps are a thing, so i don't blame women for being frustrated. I'd be willing to bet that if a dude was able to get a woman off, she'd be likely to go back to said dude if she wanted more casual stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 01:19 PM
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Now you're just being intentionally obtuse. "No one will ever love you, so you may as well go take care of old men" Let me know which part of that sentence is supposed to sell volunteer work to unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 09:25 PM
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Either way is fine. I'm just shocked that you'd believe that men wo are told they're too ugly to love should be willing to do volunteer work for any community. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 07:24 PM
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See that? That subtle, "you aren't good enough so forget about women"? Lmao But yeah, unattractive men are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 07:14 PM
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I see my friends every Friday, and I hang out with family every Saturday Your narrative that unattractive men have no social circle also comes from the idea that unattractive men are bad people, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 07:01 PM
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I have many guy friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 06:46 PM
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It really isn't. I could care less about volunteer work. If I'm not getting paid, I'm not doing anything for anyone, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 06:43 PM
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If doing it was so important, why is that kind of hunter work pushed onto unattractive men? You can do it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 06:38 PM
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You can't heal from a wound that never closes. Unattractive men will always be unattractive men. We will always be treated like unattractive men, reminded that we are unattractive men, and dog piled when we vent about how it feels to be unattractive men. Your solution is "just do things for the very community that treats you like garbage" and its total nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 06:28 PM
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Because it doesn't matter how much "healing" unattractive men do. We're still unattractive, so at best, women would only view us as friends of convenience when those attractive men hurt their feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 06:17 PM
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Because chances are ugly men have been bullied by attractive men, so in their experience, attractive men are assholes. Women just don't really care about how attractive men treat unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 05:55 PM
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Halo effect. Most people assume good-looking men are good people, and most people assume ugly men are bad people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 04:57 PM
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Sorry, popping his baloon because he doesn't want to date someone who is trans is rude? But women popping balloons because they don't wanna date short men is just preference?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 04:55 PM
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Except all that tells me is that if the patriarchy magically vanished, women would still attempt to uphold the parts of the patriarchy that benefited them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 04:15 PM
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Except women are actively trying to change the system, except for the parts that benefit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 04:04 PM
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Man, I'm marking thisnon a calendar, women on PPD literally never agree with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 06:03 AM
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"Weren't want the same men, we just all want the tall attractive men!"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 12:41 AM
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Without lust, there's no sexual attraction. Which is usually connected to physical attraction. Who would willingly enter a deadbedroom relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 11:30 PM
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I'm so confused. Why do women expect men to date women who aren't even attracted to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 11:03 PM
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Since when is it a good idea to date someone who isn't attracted to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 11:03 PM
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And who has better experiences all around, tall men or short men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 07:45 PM
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But if hating your looks is taking up that much energy, why not put that into trying to improve something? Because putting in effort for something that will never pay off, or lead to anything good is a massive waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 07:37 PM
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Short men have worse dating experiences, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 07:35 PM
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If the guy is short, then yeah. None of that matters, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 06:13 PM
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Then we agree, neither women nor men should show each other empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 06:09 PM
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No, lmao you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 05:03 PM
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Sorry, but women will always choose the more physically attractive option. And no amount of "fashion and haircuts" will ever change how many women consider you attractive, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 04:48 PM
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It doesn't increase anything if people still aren't physically attracted to you, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 04:01 PM
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Way to ignore literally everything else is said, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 03:48 PM
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Sure, if you ignore the part where not every woman cares about oranges (state to state flights, not requiring passports) but literally less than zero women will give someone without apples a chance (literally need a fucking ticket to get anywhere). I truly do not understand how you think you're going to convince unattractive men that personality matters when their personality doesn't matter because they aren't attractive. Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 03:45 PM
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The analogy is poor. If you're from the US, you do not need a passport to go to another state. So, going off your analogy, the guy who has a ticket can still get somewhere. If you are without a ticket, you get nothing, zero, zilch. You are literally stuck where you're at, and you will never be able to leave that place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 03:39 PM
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If someone only has apples, you have to give them a chance to find out if they have oranges. You're not gonna know just by looking at them. If you can visibly see that someone doesn't have apples, you aren't even going to bother getting to know if they have oranges or not. So, again, if apples decide whether or not you even get a chance, that is the only thing that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 03:28 PM
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How would apples not be more important if you can't play the game at all without apples? If you have apples and oranges, you're probably gonna win. If you only have apples, you can still play. From the perspective of someone without apples, and therefore cannot even start the game, i wouldn't give a flying fuck about whether or not you need oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 03:23 PM
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Again, no because the o ly reason you were allowed to play in the first place was because of the height, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 02:24 PM
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Whereas if you aren't tall and attractive, you don't even get the chance. So, if whether someone is worth giving a shot, it is dependant upon how tall and attractive they are then that is the only thing that matters since it decides whether you even get to play the game or not. If a tall and attractive man fumbles, then it's just a skill issue
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 02:09 PM
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So, in other words, your belief system is to believe women about their experiences and don't believe men about theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 01:57 PM
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I was just in a thread where women were straight up calling short men unattractive and when I pointed it out women, including the women saying short men were unattractive, were adamantly that no one was saying short men were unattractive. If you have to be tall and attractive to get a chance, then yes, looks and height are the only thing that matters
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 01:54 PM
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Short women are the loudest about needing tall men lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 01:37 PM
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But that short king would still get rejected for being short and none of those other things would even matter. No one is saying there are zero short men in relationships, we're saying that women are more likely to agree to date a tall man than a short man because women in general find them more physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 01:36 PM
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Because it never amounts to anything. If you put effort into every little thing, and you're still solely judged on things you can't, then that effort is nothing but wasted time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 01:32 PM
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Women do have more options, but it can sometimes seem like men just don’t wish to make an effort on the things they can change. And for someone who has repeatedly received the message that we not only can change a lot about our looks, but have almost an obligation to do whatever we can, this is irritating Because making those changes doesn't matter, if at the end of the day, you're still getting judged based on the things you can't. If the effort never leads anywhere, then the effort isn't worth…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 01:31 PM
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Again, not sure why you'd think empathy for zero empathy is something that should be worked toward
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 12:51 PM
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I don't need to wait for you to make a claim. You wouldn't have asked if you didn't feel like mennowed women empathy, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 05:51 AM
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We're in a thread where women are saying they don't feel empathy for men. I'm not sure why you think you're owed empathy in return for all the zero that women give.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 05:45 AM
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I'm not using issues to get back at you. I'm saying that I'm not incentivised to speak up when women haven't said a single thing to other women about the way they body shame men. No, just being a good person isn't worth it, because at the end of the day, if I don't look out for myself, no one else will.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:06 PM
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Except you don't get to demand that men police other men and then wash your hands of policing other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 07:35 PM
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Men have been saying it's an issue. Women usually dismiss it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 06:03 PM
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So, if men are expected to do things that do not benefit them, at what point will women do things that benefit men, like discouraging women from body shaming men? Cause that isn't happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 03:28 PM
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You guys can't even tell other women that body shaming men isn't okay, what empathy are you talking about? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 03:24 PM
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And since they can’t or won’t blame themselves, suddenly it’s ‘society’s fault. How the fuck is it my fault I was born unattractive? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:44 AM
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I figured as much
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:26 AM
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I noticed the only part you disagree with was the part about attractive men, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 10:46 PM
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Women are fine with being sexualized by attractive men. The only time it's an issue is when unattractive men do it. And again, you aren't all that bothered by unattractive men dismissing you because you would do the same to unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 10:27 PM
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I'm not strawmanning anything. Your argument was that it was unrealistic to expect women to stay in shape, while expecting men to be born with the right body was realistic lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 10:15 PM
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That's because most women aren't attracted to most men. Women will objectify conventionally attractive men all the time but will pretend like it's different. Being seen as a sexual being is not dehumanizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 09:50 PM
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If you disagree with my points I'd like to hear why. My point being, is that women do not get to wag their finger at men for having "unrealistic" standards that can be achieved by taking care of your body, while also telling men that the beauty standards they have to meet are ones they have to be born into. And pretending like the one you can actively work toward is less acceptable than the one you literally can't do anything about is nonsensical.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 09:10 PM
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Attractive men treat unattractive women like crap, so unattractive women retaliate by treating unattractive men like crap. Not so much a circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 09:04 PM
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What are you talking g about? Women body shame men for not meeting conventional beauty standards all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 08:39 PM
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I would imagine most women want most men to treat them like they don't exist. Especially since both attractive and unattractive women dislike unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 08:28 PM
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"Its unrealistic for a woman to lose weight, but its super realistic to expect most men to be taller and hung"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 08:20 PM
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Except you whine when men leave women that have gained an amount t of weight they are not attracted to. Women do not get to criticize beauty standards and then tell men that beauty standards that are replaced on them are acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 08:03 PM
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Women treat unattractive men like shit all the time. There's a reason women only body shame a couple of body types on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 05:53 PM
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So, asking women to maintain their weight, something that any woman can do, is unrealistic. But, demanding that men be born with specific traits that can not be changed is realistic. Lmao, alright, lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 05:49 PM
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You mean other than "just because born tall" and "just have a big dick"? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 05:32 PM
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Yes. I disagree that women will date outside of their preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 11:48 PM
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Sorry, but no. The vast majority of women will not date someone shorter than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 01:37 PM
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No, I think we established that men should not listen to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 07:16 AM
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So, in other words, I shouldn't listen to or believe women? Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:59 AM
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The reason I was given by almost every woman who rejected me was my height, so I will keep blaming my height. Since thats what women did. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 04:39 AM
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That's on me, I missed that 6' remark. I am not of the opinion that you need to be 6'. You just need to be tall
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 06:22 PM
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There many men who go their entire lives without ever really being without a woman. So lets not pretend like its some rare outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 06:19 PM
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I am fully aware than I am unattrsctive, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 06:18 PM
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It's completely relevant. If you're getting a yes for every 5 rejections, then you have no room to speak about how someone who has gotten 1 yes and 300 rejections should handle said rejections. Your entire worldview is shaped by the fact that you've had better experiences. Thats all there is to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 06:04 PM
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How many times, on average, have you been body shamed by women and how many times, on average would you hear no before getting a yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 05:51 PM
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You mean the girl who cheated on me with my best friend and then encouraged our friends to mock me for my size? That post history? Lmao, man. You sure showed me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 05:13 PM
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So, if how she feels is supposed to come before how I feel, at what point am I allowed to put myself first? Because she isn't going to do that. No one else is, either. At the end of the day, I have to care more about myself than her because if I don't then no one will.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 05:05 PM
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More power to you, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 05:03 PM
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No, I'd rather nit hear about it at all, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 04:14 PM
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Or they just didn't want to hang around the girl who rejected them, who probably started talking about how much she liked someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:16 PM
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Oh, this won't happen again, lmao. I stopped staying friends with women who've rejected me. Because with you she felt safe! You’d asked, accepted a no, and now she could be close to you without fear you’d take it as her leading you on! Because of that conversation, you grew closer as friends! I think you're just giving her the benefit of the doubt because she's a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 02:51 PM
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It would be totally valid for you to express a boundary because you don’t want to. But unless your friend was shitty to begin with and really did mean to rub it in your face, I don’t see how cuddling is leading you on. It was not something she did before I asked her out, nor was it something she did with any other guy in our friend group. Neither was the hand holding. I can't think of a good reason for it to not being an intentional leading on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 02:40 PM
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Will some women never want to date someone under a certain height? Yes The vast majority of women will not date someone shorter than them. You can see that in the fact that the vast majority of women keep saying they want someone taller than them. So first, you say it makes it harder. Now you're trying to push that it has no effect on your chances at all. Make up your mind. Yes. And it literally doesn't matter, because there are still plenty of women who will date someone on the shorter if every…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 02:00 PM
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This kind of a ‘you’re both right’ thing. Sometimes once you fall in love with someone, you need to heal your broken heart first. But! If that happened bro wouldn’t feel like the girl or woman did anything wrong and they’d hate to lose the friendship just as much. Okay, that entirely depends, though. I asked a close friend of mine out, she said no. I decided i wanted to remain friends, and within the week of rejecting me, she started holding my hand, trying to find ways to get us alone and cuddl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:47 PM
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Some women who prefer taller men do end up dating "shorter" men (under 6'). Going by your logic, that would mean those women don't actually prefer tall men at all. No, they don't, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 01:42 PM
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In your current state, you’ll never find them because you’ll never go looking for them. You’ve tried that before a couple times and it hurt too much so you gave up. Then, at some point you got caught up in this ideology seduced by it and now you’re the only person in your own way. I can promise that I've been romantically and sexuall rejected more than you ever have, and I've been treated worse by women than you have. You're making me repeat myself by continuing to go back to this "you never act…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 06:06 AM
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People win the lottery, so if you haven't won the lottery, its your fault for not trying harder. That line of logic sound familiar to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 05:57 AM
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I'm confused. Does being short make it harder or not? You're oscillating wildly between admitting its harder while going on and on about how easy it's been for the short men you know, and obviously if its easy for them, its easy for all short men. The point that you're trying to make doesn't really work when you contradict yourself every step of the way. And the reason you keep contradicting yourself is because you do not have the experience and are relying on the fact that you have the privileg…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 05:38 AM
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I can go to many subreddits where men are jumping at the opportunity to get with tall women. Can you show me one subreddit where women are showing as much interest in short men? No? Hard to imagine why. You see what I’m getting at right? Men have lots of options. Ugly short men with limps get married and have children. Burn victims get married and have children. Sorry, but there isn't someone out there for everyone. Some people will never meet someone who is attracted to them. The less attractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 05:25 AM
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The idea that there are men who get no attention aren’t worth thinking about, because odds are they are getting attention, just not from the girl(s) they want. This is just absolute nonsense that you're making up. So if we’re worried about the romantic future of a man who no women ever show interest in, what solution do you recommend besides forcing women to give him attention? You keep going back to force, which again. I've not once said anything about. Literally ever. My personal solution is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 05:20 AM
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I know plenty of women who say this and still date short men when they meet a quality man, so it's no different than me saying I wouldn't let tall height rule a man out. Quite often it's taller women and very short women who are open to shorter men. Short women are the most vocal about wanting a tall man, but, hey. You know short men's experiences better than they do, so who am I to disagree. Also most of the shorter men I know (5'3 - 5'6) do really well and have really hot partners - slim, athl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 03:00 AM
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Sorry, but no. If women who claim to "prefer" short men are mostly still dating tall men, then those preferences never actually existed to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 02:57 AM
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A preference is just what you prefer. Some people are willing to step outside of what they prefer, and some aren't. The meaning of the word preference doesn't change. You'd have a point if it weren't for the fact that the only people willing to step out of what they prefer are the women who "prefer" short men. But I'm sure that's just a massive coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 02:41 AM
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Home dawg, you're going down a dialog branch that I'm unable to follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 02:18 AM
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But I don't think your point makes sense What we've established is that the word "preference" changes drastically, depending on what preference we're talking about. When women prefer tall men, they will reject men for being under × height. It is a hard line. That is a preference. Yet, ask any woman who "prefers" short men and they'll tell you they'd still date a tall man. Notice how "preference" changed from a hard line to "either way is fine"? So now, as you've acknowledged, not only are the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 02:16 AM
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I dunno where you got forced or compelled relationships. That is some wild ass stuff that I have never said, literally ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 02:09 AM
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Yes, just ignore everything else I've said, I'm sure that makes your argument seem stronger than it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 12:19 AM
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But the bottom line is, if you connected, you would still date a taller man? I understand you are married and that this is purely hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 11:13 PM
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I'm saying that it heavily decreases the number of women who are physically attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 11:09 PM
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Just to be clear, you believe that any time a man has romantic feelings for a woman, those romantic feelings are just purely sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 11:08 PM
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And would you still date taller men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 11:07 PM
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We could absolutely do that and I’m sure it would be legendary, but why would we? to what end? So, you don't want to take anecdotal evidence into account unless that anecdotal evidence proves your worldview. And you don't want to look at peer reviewed studies because they don't support your worldview. At what point did you tell yourself that you know better than someone else's lived experience? You can wag your finger at people for "not trying," but your entire position relies on a very shakey b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 11:05 PM
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Your entire argument hinges on the person in question being attractive in some way. If that person is not, your entire thought process falls apart
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 10:45 PM
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Many men base their beliefs off of a tiny sample size. They develop crushes that leave them blind to the attention of other women. They get absolutely no sign of attraction coming from their crush and they shoot their shot after months or years of being blind. Then they believe they’re unlovable. The other women in their orbit watch this unattractive behavior and write the man off. I think its kinda odd to make such a massive assumption. Were there actually women in his orbit, or are you just ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:17 PM
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You would need to prove to me that physical attractiveness is a requirement to a romantic relationship. How many people do you know are fucking people that they find physically unattractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:14 PM
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Then we can look at studies that absolutely prove that women, maybe not all, but the majority of women, are not attracted to men shorter than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:07 PM
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That is a horrible mistake to make because a romantic and sexual relationship will not last if you are not physically attracted to your partner. You can NOT compromise physically attraction and have it lead to a healthy relationship. Its how you get dead bedrooms and cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:06 PM
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Have you dated taller men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:04 PM
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But..your positive arguments are also anecdotal. And again, not even ones you will ever experience yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:03 PM
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Relationships are formed on the basis of physical attraction and personality. If men stopped being physically attracted to plus sized women, then there would be no plus sized women in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:57 PM
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It matters because your opinion that "its overinflated" comes from second-hand observations and will never be something that you experience yourself. Its incredibly dismissive and arrogant to insist that you know better than the men who actually deal with it perosnally.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:56 PM
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Are you a short man?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:45 PM
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No, but people absolutely downplay how much of a disadvantage is actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:44 PM
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OK, let’s pretend I’m a fat woman. Would I be justified in saying that I’ll never find love because fat women aren’t attractive and so I should just give up? This is not the best example since there are chubby chasers. Plus, sized women do not have issues getting into relationships because there are men who are attracted to that body type. There aren't really 'short men chasers' the same way that there are women chasing tall men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:42 PM
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The friendship didn't "end" because she rejected him. It was already over, the moment the man decided he didn't want to be her friend. He ONLY wants to be her sexual partner. If he can't be her sexual partner, he doesn't want her at all. The part that we aren't seeing eye to eye on, is the insistence that it's all always sexual and has nothing to do with how the guy in this situation feels.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:37 PM
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But see how you have to phrase it as "a woman who doesn't mind?" How come we don't say "a woman who doesn't mind that he's tall"? People want to be with someone they're attracted to and someone who is attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:34 PM
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The red pill is bunk because it exists solely to sell men "courses" to help them get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:33 PM
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No one is saying that there are no short men in relationships. People are saying that the general consensus is that taller heights are more attractive and, in turn, attract more women than men who are shorter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:32 PM
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So, if a short man is rejected by every woman he asks, and they all specifically say that its because he is short, should he blame himself for being short? Or should he get leg-lengthening surgery so he can "improve himself"? Sometimes, people are rejected for reasons outside of their control. And, yes. Women can absolutely be shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:59 PM
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It's the rampant misogyny and conspiracy theories and pseudoscientific bullshit that is fabricated to try and explain why they have been rejected. Lmao, like what??
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:56 PM
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If someone has a history of being rejected by everyone, or even almost everyone they ask out, I don't see how opting out of dating is "running from your problems" when its been made pretty clear that women aren't interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:44 PM
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If a woman rejects someone they were friends with, they should be prepared for that friendship to end. But that doesn't mean the friendship was fake. If a guy is hurt that he's been rejected and doing all the normal things he would do with that person makes him feel worse, why should he be obligated to put himself through that? Obviously, no one is entitled to a relationship. If someone isn't feeling that way, then that's that. But it goes both ways, no one is entitled to friendship, and if cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:39 PM
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No, I just point out that they have those standards, so its a waste of time to even bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 11:16 PM
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All you have to do is say that you gave up on dating because you don't meet those standards and you'll get called an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 11:11 PM
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I was hoping my response would come off over the top and not be taken seriously. But I did forget to /s, so thats my fault. 1) women already make those generalizations, and when men try to argue and say "not all men", they're blasted for it, because to women, saying not all men is indicative of your being part of the problem. However, when women say, "not all women," suddenly the "not all ____" argument becomes valid. 2) I'm an unattractive guy, I'm completely invisible to women at best, so how …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:59 PM
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I'm sure I'd be able to live without a quick pity fuck from someone who clearly didn't want to be there because there's no attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 11:31 AM
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Hey, you can't generalize men like that!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 10:07 AM
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I mean, I do get to do that. That's the plus side of being unattractive. Whether I don't blame you, or i do. Whether I'm kind about it or not, it won't make that "0" go any higher. I don't have to care how women feel about me blaming them, because at the end of the day, it doesn't really even matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:54 AM
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I would like you to picture a world where absolutely no one found you attractive, and during any attempt to form a romantic connection, you are reminded that you are unattractive. Is it really all that surprising that some men find this upsetting?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:43 AM
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Hey, at least one woman will acknowledge the height obsession, i guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 02:03 AM
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I mean, if it's enough women, then the generalization applies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:53 AM
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To be honest, none of what you said really applies to me, since most women's preferences aren't that varied so approaching women would be a massive waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:52 AM
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There's a difference between "i would but he's an ass, so no." And "No, but he's super sweet...so no."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:15 AM
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Women also insist that there isn't a height obsession, despite every study on the matter saying otherwise. So you'll have to forgive us if we don't immediately believe what you say, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 01:14 AM
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If a woman like that approached me, I would assume she had less than good intentions
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 02:04 AM
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I'm also not the best example, since again, I don't date, so I don't really care about how attractive women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 09:57 PM
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If a woman is "sacrificing" then she probably cares about sex. Women who don't care about sex wouldn't call it a sacrifice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 09:50 PM
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I see. I got lost in the sauce somewhere, my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:36 PM
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I think you're talking about sexual compatibility, not attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:25 PM
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"Sacrificing" physical attraction is also a personality flaw. A woman who "sacrifices" physical attraction will grow to resent her partner for the choice that she made, because its somehow not her own fault, and her partner will inevitably pick up on the fact that she isn't actually attracted to him and will also end up resenting her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:08 PM
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Except women who "sacrifice" physical attraction just end up cheating, so they never actually loved the guy they "sacrificed" for in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:02 PM
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I guess so. But I don't really look all that much
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 04:23 PM
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No. But I also stopped trying to date because I am also unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 02:54 PM
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It may as well be, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 06:09 AM
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They get with him for his looks So if someone is unattractive and can o ly afford to impress people outside of his country, he should just stay single for the rest of his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:54 PM
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And how many women do you know would be okay with someone who could only afford a 300 dollar car?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:34 PM
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So would you shame a man who buys a 300 dollar car because thats in his pr9ce range?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:22 PM
21

There are plenty of women in your home country who will use men for their money. There is no difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:05 PM
2

The specific example that I was speaking about came from a woman who did participate in hookup culture and felt the need to tell her husband that she wouldn't have hooked up with her. You're the one who chose to change the demographic i was speaking about. Ok, but you’re still all hung up on women who hookup, and have no interest in those who don’t. 🤷‍♀️ It’s no skin off my teeth if you don’t want to self reflect why that is. I have no interest in either because in not trying to date or hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 08:28 PM
1

Except these exact things also come from women who did participate in hook up culture. So my argument still stands. You believe what you want to believe because you don’t like relationships. Enjoy your life eternally Tinder swiping. I’m sure it’s very fulfilling. I don't use dating apps. Or hook up apps. But I'm sure that version of me that you made up is very upset about this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 07:39 PM
3

Your boyfriend is an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 07:37 PM
2

There was a recent post in confessions or AITH, and this exact this was brought up because the wife said she wouldn't have hooked up with him. It seems like something like this is said: "Anytime * boyfriend or husband material is brought up, and it seems like everyone who jumps to villianize men for feeling a certain way about it ignores that part. If a woman tells you that she wouldn't sleep with you outside of a relationship, she's telling you that she doesn't find you as physically attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 07:16 PM
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I am literally the most unattractive man alive, with the IQ of a dead rock. And i still wouldn't stay with a woman while she was fucking other dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 12:55 AM
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I'm very confused
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 07:56 PM
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I immediately skip dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 04:37 PM
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I think there are a lot of self-aware men who have said someone was too attractive for them
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 03:28 PM
2

Yeah, women are pretty blind to beauty standards that don't affect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 01:33 AM
2

Thats why I said the vast majority and not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 12:28 AM
2

4'10 women still want 5'11+
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 12:21 AM
1

Ah. I see. Just don't be 5'3, and you'll be fine. Makes sense, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 11:25 PM
2

Nope. I only want the best of the best. And the best of the best is going to look different for every woman . I'm sure it's just a coincidence that the best for the vast majority of women includes being taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 11:16 PM
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There are plenty of women in the US who use men for their money, it would be no different
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 11:20 PM
2

I'm unattractive, so women already don't like me. I'm not all that worried about how I make other men look, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 06:39 PM
2

Admit that he wanted to give her a chance because she's the only one who's interested? Thats a good way to get labeled as a red flag since most women see men who aren't successful with dating as red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 05:51 PM
2

If neither party has a problem with it, I don't see the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 05:47 PM
2

Who said anything about being scared? Maybe they just want to experience one person wanting them around?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 05:40 PM
2

No, we're not. Lmao We're talking about the fact that you expect unattractive men to reject the only woman showing interest in them because if they don't, they're pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 05:26 PM
2

So, you refuse to see another person's perspective but you expect others to see yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 05:09 PM
2

Again, you're conflating "i don't want anyone" and "no one wants me". Those sentences are going to bring very different feelings and have very different implications. And you are unattractive able to see the difference because you'll never actually experience the "no one wants you" part.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:44 PM
2

But dating the o ly person willing to give you a chance makes you pathetic? Lmao. It just sounds like you hate unattractive men and don't want them in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:25 PM
2

"Dating the only woman willing to give unattractive men a chance makes men bad people"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:16 PM
2

Are you suggesting that there's no difference between a woman saying "i don't want anyone" and men being told "no one wants you"?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:07 PM
2

As a woman, of course you'd think that. The choice to be single is wholly yours to make. You have plenty of options and choose whether or not you want them. Unattractive men don't get that luxury. Either take what you can get or you'll never be ina relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:58 PM
2

You act like unattractive men have a choice lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:56 PM
2

Why wouldn't they? Clearly, they're still getting women. You can't fault men for it when women are clearly proving it's acceptable behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:53 PM
2

It's not a weird phenomenon. The part i find weird is how women will bend over backward to defend the actions of attractive men and then turn around and pretend like the unattractive guy retaliating was the problem the entire time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:49 PM
2

Because women are the ones insisting that the reason men fail at dating is because they're assholes? Even tho, again, women only have a problem with unattractive assholes. When did this conversation become about what men do and don't have problems with? Lmao0
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:46 PM
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What does that have to do with anything? My point has been that women don't have a problem with assholes. They have a problem with unattractive assholes, even when they're being assholes in retaliation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:43 PM
1

That's funny because, again, women don't mind attractive men being assholes to unattractive men. I wonder why that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:42 PM
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Which man is most likely to have a chip on his shoulder? We obviously know the answer to that. But, chances are unattractive men have earned the right to be assholes, since people tend to be assholes to them first, especially attractive men. Whereas women will never point out poor behavior in an attractive man, and take it personally when unattractive men point out that being attractive is not synonymous with being a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:38 PM
6

Let's face it, women have blinders when it comes to asshole behaviors from attractive men, which is why it gets pointed out more than unattractive men being g assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:29 PM
5

Obviously, unattractive men can be assholes, but it doesn't really need to be pointed out when women only ignore asshole behaviors when the man is attractive enough
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:25 PM
1

Maybe, but it was a nice gesture of being close and trusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 07:45 PM
8

That's not even remotely true. Growing up, most of my friends were women, and I got hugs almost daily from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 07:34 PM
1

Lmao, someone's grumpy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:13 AM
1

Except. Again. If you aren't attractive, you will never be an option to the vast majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:12 AM
1

Yes. I understand this poor analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:11 AM
1

Except, women would have to want to talk to you for your personality and charisma to even matter. If you aren't attractive the vast majority of women will not be interested in talking to you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 01:05 AM
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If physical attraction determines whether or not your personality matters, then yes. It is the only important part.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:59 AM
2

Yeah, I'm already the one saying charisma and personality don't matter id you aren't attractive lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:58 AM
2

So then, we agree. Personality and charisma do not matter if you are not attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:58 AM
2

If personality and charisma are so important, why doesn't it matter for unattractive men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:46 AM
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If charisma only matters if you're attractive, then its not created lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:26 AM
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If they're invisible, there was no attraction, no attraction means charisma doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:06 AM
3

I'm hitting F for Doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:00 AM
2

Except. Again. That whole "charismatic personality" doesn't matter if they aren't conventionally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:59 PM
0

So again. Charisma isn't the deciding factor, its physical attraction lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:52 PM
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Its real easy to prove that charismatic has nothing to do with it, if charismatic doesn't help someone who isn't conventionally attractive lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:48 PM
2

So. Once. In school. But when men cite bad experiences in school, they're the ones who are the problem. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:47 PM
4

I don't approach women. Your standards are pretty much the same across the board, so it's a waste of my time. But, let's not pretend like the only reason you're fine with it isn't because you know you'll never have someone treat you like crap just for approaching them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:33 PM
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It's not even close, lmao. I'm not making it a competition. I'm saying women are perfectly fine with being rude when rejecting someone because they know they'll never have that same experience, or experience it anywhere near as often.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:31 PM
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Sure, women get rejected, just nowhere near the same amount as men lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:28 PM
5

Interrupting someone's day is so incredibly vague. "You approached me at a social gathering, which resulted in interrupting my day, fuck off!" I'm sure you have lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:05 PM
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All you have to do is be unattractive, and women will either not be all that kind or perform a mocking kind of "kindness"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:04 PM
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So how would you suggest making friends if approaching people you don't know is unacceptable in any situation? Lmao And I'm sure those whole 2 rejections were real harsh for your ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:56 PM
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Rules one and two. You don't really even need to be all that charismatic lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:53 PM
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Its funny because women only think this way because they aren't rejected anywhere near the same amount as men. I would also call it a bit hypocritical to shame men for snapping at you for mocking them. In what world do you deserve to treat someone like crap and still expect them to be respectful of you? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:50 PM
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No, women just aren't as kind with their rejection as they think they are. Or behave in a way where the "kindness" is blatantly mockery
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:13 PM
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*and be attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:25 PM
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It's not that it contradicts my worldview. It's that "women don't do that" contradicts the most common observable preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:55 PM
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Hopefully not for too long, but more or less, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 12:24 AM
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Nothing at all. You can't change women's preferences. And i have no intention of pretending they don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 12:22 AM
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There is no approach that would work, so let's not pretend like what I'm doing versus other things I could be doing would result in anything else lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 12:17 AM
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That has never happened to begin with, nor was it ever going to, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 12:08 AM
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Its a good thing I'm not rejecting anyone, so there goes that weird assumption lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 11:58 PM
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Right. I must have imagined all the body shaming, my bad lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 11:27 PM
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I never said i was lesser. Women did. What notions exactly? The exact things women have said? So should I listen to and believe women, or should I not? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:08 PM
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You can rationalize it with poor reasoning all you'd like. There's a reason why women don't say anything negative about tall men or hung men, even when they aren't very good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 09:55 PM
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These are the same women who say height doesn't matter, so you'll have to understand why I don't believe them. Especially when you consider how many women think 6-7 inches is average.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 09:54 PM
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Again, not what I said. Thats just how you chose to interpret what I said. And then proceeded to pretend not to notice when I corrected you lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 11:16 AM
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Lmao, again if that's what you think, then that's fine. Its okay to be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 11:07 AM
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Lmao, that is not what i said. That is how you chose to interpret it. What i said was that women are constantly lying about their preference because they want so badly to believe that they're less shallow than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 11:03 AM
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You obviously aren't following the logic, so I'll spell it out a lot slower. How many times have women said "women don't do that" when men talk about how many women have height requirements? Even when its an observable fact? And how many times do women say "women don't do that" when men talk about how often women only body shame one size? Even when its an observable fact?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:57 AM
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How about the "women don't do that" argument that every woman makes, despite countless examples of women doing exactly that? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:52 AM
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Hey, if that's how you choose to interpret that, then go ahead lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:44 AM
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I'm sure the same people who constantly lie about height are absolutely telling the truth about dick size.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:36 AM
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Totally makes sense if you ignore the fact that women are still only insulting men with small dicks or men who are shorter and still aren't saying anything negative about tall men or big dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:35 AM
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100%. If a woman is talking about her partner and he isn't 6+ inches, she isn't saying anything kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:28 AM
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That absolute bullshit you're pushing about men hyping up well endowed men. Get the fuck out of here with that cuck nonsense lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 10:44 PM
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Right, right. Thats why women only body shame short men and men with small dicks. And that's why women never have anything g negative to say about tall men and men with big dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 10:42 PM
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I'm short and unattractive, women do not approach me lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 10:40 PM
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No, the average is still 5 - 5.5 lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 06:02 AM
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Based on the height debate, its pretty safe to assume that anytime women say "women don't do that", they're just straight up lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 04:24 AM
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Then we agree. The majority of women are size queens.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 04:13 AM
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No it isn't lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 04:11 AM
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The vast majority of women prefer any man 6 inches or more. An extreme minority might prefer under 6, but a majority of that minority are into SPH.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 04:10 AM
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No, instead you tried to get everyone to feel bad for men who are well endowed by pretending that they struggle as much as men who aren't. Which, according to your own sources, is an absolute joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 02:37 AM
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No there isn't, lmao. Its usually a backhanded compliment. "Yeah, his dick is small but he's good with his fingers!"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 02:19 AM
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Again, get back to me when well endowed men are required to use toys as much as men who aren't gifted.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 02:02 AM
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Yes. Multiple people have used poor reasoning to justify why only negative things are said about one size and only positive things are said about another.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 02:01 AM
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There's a reason "use toys" isn't said to well endowed men. So let's not pretend this isn't what it is lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 01:44 AM
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Remind me which size women tend to insult the most often, and remind me how often women treat well-endowed men as poorly as they treat men who aren't?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 01:44 AM
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"Just be above average and you'll be fine!" Man, way to prove me wrong. Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 01:43 AM
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No, lmao. Only an extreme minority are okay with smaller sizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 01:30 AM
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So far, the only people who support your statement are men who have admitted to not having this problem because they're well endowed. And women. Both groups of people who aren't affected by this form of beauty standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 01:18 AM
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Yes, I saw him pretending like well endowed men struggle as much as men who aren't well endowed lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 01:16 AM
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I'm sure you know several women in the extreme minority. But that doesn't change that its still an extreme minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 12:51 AM
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"You don't get it, as a kid i was totally worried, I mean, now I have the size that the vast majority of women prefer, but I know the struggle!" Fucking christ lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 12:49 AM
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For the same reason we ignore you when it comes to height. You can say it doesn't matter all you want, statistics and observable trends tend to say otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 12:44 AM
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Because on the last post, a bunch of women were calling 6-7 inches average lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 12:40 AM
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Oh won't you think of those poor well-endowed men that the vast majority of women prefer? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 12:39 AM
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Won't you think of those poor well-endowed men that the vast majority of women prefer? :(
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 12:37 AM
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Lesbians have satisfying sex lives without a real penis. Some women have conditions where any insertion can be very painful. Many women don't orgasm solely from only PiV sex anyway. Lmao. "Just look at the women who aren't sexually aroused by dicks!" You still have many tools, including oral and toys. Also the tantrists teach there are many ways to achieve orgasm as well. Don't define your entirety by your member. If someone it truly attracted to you, they can make it work. If you need to replac…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 12:36 AM
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So essentially, your entire comment is just you saying you don't actually know the struggle, and in order to win internet points, you're going to pretend to?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 12:34 AM
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Its a good thing I never body shamed women then lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:55 PM
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Yeah. I'm sure your "it hasn't happened to me so its hasn't happened to anyone" logic has enlightened so many grown ass men lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 09:17 PM
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Lmao, sure. Except the people she encouraged to body shame me were my friends too and that didn't stop the women in our group from joining in on body shaming me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 09:06 PM
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Haha, aww. Any more edge, and you could be a 90's anime villain.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:57 PM
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My last ex cheated, body shamed and encouraged our friends to body shame me. But sure, women don't care at all lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:55 PM
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Yes, yes. I'm sure its all a coincidence that women never have anything negative to say about well endowed men as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:54 PM
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Your claim was women don't care at all, but hey, I'm proud you adjusted your viewpoint marginally. Man, you throw some whiney tempertantrums when reality and whatever delusion you're living in don't add up, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:53 PM
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So if we compare other subs like smalldickproblems to bigdickproblems, both will be talking equally about how often their treated poorly because of their size? Or does that not count because it's guaranteed to prove that I'm not, in fact, an anomaly. Unless you believe that every man who had been body shamed is also an anomaly. In which case I would question whether you know what that word means.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:20 PM
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Congrats on being an anomaly. But you know what they say about outliers not disproving a general rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:13 PM
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Notice how the only people who agree with you are well endowed men and women? You know the two groups of people who aren't affected in the slightest on this topic? Is that also more than just a coincidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 07:48 PM
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I was pointing out that your experiences as a guy with a big dick doesn't not apply to men who are not well endowed. Fingers and tongue don't matter if a woman isn't interested in your size lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 07:46 PM
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Right, right. The same women who insist it doesn't happen, solely based on the fact that it doesn't happen to them. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 07:45 PM
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So you have no experience with sex and no experience with having less endowed equipment. But you're insisting that you know better than men with experience in both? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 07:40 PM
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Hey man. You keep pitching that "it hasn't happened to me" logic. I'm sure another well-endowed man or a woman will listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 07:37 PM
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It must be nice to live in a world where it's only a coincidence that women only treat men who aren't well endowed that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 07:36 PM
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My last ex cheated, body shamed me and encouraged our mutual friends to body shame me. Women absolutely care about size lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 06:01 PM
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Well for one, the only people who argue "women don't do that" are men who are well endowed and women, you know the people who wouldn't be negatively affected by this kind of body shaming. Two, if you check out smalldickproblems and bigdickproblems, you'll very clearly see a pattern of one size being treated extremely poorly by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 06:00 PM
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I don't lmao, I'm just tired of listening to people insist that "women don't do that" based on the experiences they would have never had in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 05:57 PM
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You can when the experience is extremely common lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 05:55 PM
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"But guys! I'm well endowed and women don't make fun of my size! So its obviously not why women are making fun of you!" See how you're still applying extremely poor logic?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 05:55 PM
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No, the basis of your argument is just extremely flawed. Notice how the only people who believe men who aren't well endowed aren't treated poorly by women are: A) Men who are well endowed and wouldn't have that experience in the first place. B) Women. The idea that you believe that the experience of men who aren't well endowed should be dismissed based off people who's core logic is "it hasn't happened to me, so it hasn't happened to anyone," is so extremely terrible that there's bo real way to …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:35 PM
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In other words, you think you know the experience of men who arent well endowed better than they do, based on all your positive experiences with women lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:26 PM
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I don't talk to women if I don't have to, so generalize all you want, it won't affect me lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:13 PM
1

"Women don't do that" is not an outlininging any rational behavior. Its a dismissive argument based on your lack of experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:12 PM
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The vast majority of women are like that, lmao. The fact that it doesn't matter how often it happens, you still cover your ears and close your eyes while saying "nuh-uh" is telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:05 PM
1

You mean other than the whole "it doesn't matter how many examples there are, women don't do that" thing you keep arguing? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:01 PM
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No, lmao. We can play this whole "as a woman, I've never been treated poorly for my dick size, so no woman has ever treated anyone poorly because of their dick size," all we want. But at the end of the day, that's not how reality actually works.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:00 PM
1

No more than the bias that you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 03:57 PM
1

"Big balls" is usually meant as a phrase for being brave. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 03:56 PM
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Yes, yes. Women would never. Thats why if you go onto smalldickproblems and bigdick problems, only one of them talk about how poorly they've been treated by women. We can do this whole "its never happened to me so its never happened to anyone" thing all you want, it isn't gonna change the reality of what actually happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 03:53 PM
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My expefience says other wise lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 03:51 PM
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I'm sure that explains why any time women talk about big dicks, its always positive and any time women talk about small dicks its always body shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 03:50 PM
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"As someone who's never experienced how terrible women can treat men who aren't well endowed, i can confidently say that it doesn't happen!"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 03:48 PM
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The subreddit about small dicks is used specifically to vent about how poorly women have treated them. The subreddit about big dicks is used specifically to brag about how well women have treated them. Next bad question.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 03:46 PM
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"It's DoEsN't WoRk!!!!!" This also works when you ignore the part where women are only praising one size as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:50 PM
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Absolutely. Plenty of women find tall, conventionally attractive men to be extremely attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:46 PM
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Sure. If you ignore the part where women are only body shaming one size, only praising one size, only implying that one size has to make up for their lack of size. And if you ignore how many women ask men who aren't well endowed to wear dick sleeves. If you ignore a lot of stuff, the parent comment is right.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:44 PM
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Sure, if you turn off your brain and ignore the part where they only body shame one specific body type.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:41 PM
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And I'm sure its just a coincidence that women never body shame well endowed men, right? Has nothing to do with a clear preference? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:40 PM
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No. It can't. Either you want us to believe what women say, or you only want us to believe what you say
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 12:47 PM
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When an experience is so common amongst a certain group of people, it's absolutely a generalization to make. Go to smalldickproblrms and big dick problems, and you tell me how often both sides talk about being treated poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:46 AM
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"Believe what women say" "Just because a woman says something doesn't mean its true!" Pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:39 AM
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Ohh women don't body shame men? So my last girlfriend who cheated, body shamed and encouraged all our friends to body shame me. Does she not count as a woman? Or how does that work? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:36 AM
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Everything. Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:05 AM
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Anytime women say "women don't do that" you can pretty much guarantee that the majority of them do. The debate about height is another really good example of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:05 AM
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"As a man who's never had this problem, I know exactly how it works" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:04 AM
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And I'm sure it feels amazing to know your partner would rather be with someone who's bigger lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:49 AM
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Total nonsense. Women brag about bagging a well endowed guy. You know that. The only time women have anything to say about men who aren't well endowed is when they're body shaming them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:41 AM
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Literally the only time women talk about men who aren't hung is to body shame them lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:37 AM
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I'm calling fiddlesticks. The only time women talk about men who aren't hung is to just body shame them
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 10:35 AM
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I wasn't implying that was what her or her friends did, I was more so clarifying my experience. In that if women only speak to me when they need to whine about their relationship problems, then they aren't really friends. So I don't feel all that bad when I tell them bluntly that I don't want to hear about it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 08:47 PM
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Yes yes. Women good, me bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 08:43 PM
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Lmao, I didn't misread anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 08:43 PM
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I've never told someone to shut up the first, second or even a third time. Its when its repetitive to the point that its all they want to talk about. A good example of that is I still listen to my guy friends talk about their relationships because its not all they talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 06:19 PM
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Because I used to be way too nice lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:24 PM
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Lmao, yeah, I'm sure. Got any more edge in there?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:21 PM
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I may whine on the internet, but at least I don't need to bring other down just to feel better about myself lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:18 PM
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It usually evolves from me being willing to listen once ina while to them thinking its all I'm there for lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:12 PM
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"Bullies come out to be well adjusted" right, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:10 PM
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Oohh. Gotcha. So you were a bully in high school and everyone else is the problem. This makes a lot more sense now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:01 PM
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Its funny because bullies are usually the biggest bitches. They get knocked around by daddy at home and have to feel like a big man by taking it out on other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:56 PM
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No, because you can't blame it on being a bad person when it clearly hasn't stopped most people. Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:50 PM
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No one wants to date someone they arent physically attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:50 PM
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This is how most women used to talk to me, but for the most part it was a daily thing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:49 PM
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Oh no. You wouldn't date me? Oh boy I am sure sad about that, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:37 PM
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It really isn't lmao. But hey, you keep telling everyone around you that preferences and physical attraction are super unimportant to romantic and sexual relationships, I'm sure someone will believe you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:27 PM
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You still need to be physically attractive lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:21 PM
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You mean talking about facts and experiences? Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:17 PM
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Hey, you're the one saying all short men are like that. I'm just agreeing. I don't see the problem, lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:14 PM
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Yes, yes. All short men bad. All women good.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:12 PM
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Lmao what pity party? Stating facts?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:09 PM
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Women reject short men because they prefer tall men. But hey, good try.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:07 PM
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I am reading your comments. Go back to the "its never happened to me so its never happened to anyone" thing i said
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:59 PM
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Sure, sure, which part of the sentence "I'm 5'3" screams agnst?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:50 PM
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So, just out of curiosity, if a woman enjoys talking to you, asks your height and immediately ghosts when she finds out you're 5'3, which flawed personality trait did she sleep from "5'3"?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:46 PM
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Sounds more like "it hasn't happened to me, so its never happened to anyone" logic coming from your side lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:34 PM
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It really isn't. Physical attraction is the reason a vast majority of the time
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:18 PM
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Plenty of physically attractive dudes are terrible people are still in relationships, so let's not pretend that personality is the reason lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:09 PM
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Which is why I have no problems telling them to shut up lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:03 PM
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