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Well if you are actually a troll then guess what? It is very hard to tell on subjects like these. And no having a username "ChessClubChick" is not enough of a givaway... you need to add "/sarcasm" or at least "/s" Or are you actually not a troll and the only coping mechanism you have to what I point out is to say "but I can find people who say I am right" as a defense? Honestly I hope you are just a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:13 AM
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Oh look! Douche bag who thinks that making someone orgasm means it is not rape. Side note... running with your disgusting and ridiculous premise for a moment... what about the women you start fucking without permission who DON'T orgasm? What are they? Collateral damage? You gonna say "oops it works sometimes so too bad for you that some girls orgasm when I rape them" ... also whiney and pathetic that you can't conceive of a sober, mentally stable, legal adult woman saying "yes I want to have sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/22 12:03 AM
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LOL and how does that matter in the slightest? I told you what the ratio was as determined by nationwide statistically rigorous polls. Your non-random and very small sample size is a very poor, very bad guess at the number that has already been established within a few percent. Annnnnd... big surprise... that highly unscientific guess is wrong when compared with the actual number. Your claim is reminiscent of Trump insisting he did not lose a State because he would go to a rally and say "look at…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 11:48 PM
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Are you talking about NPC's in Japanese dating sims? Because it does not sound like humans...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:26 AM
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Woah... ok.... i appreciate that this thread is trying to get guys to stop hounding women on text... but I think the takeaway should be "STOP READING INTO EVERYTHING". Never overdo texting period... and stop trying to mind read.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:24 AM
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Lets get one thing straight... by electing Trump the older generation declared "no prisoners" in the culture war... because 40 and younger diapprove of him by a 2 to 1 ratio. Pretty dumb move if you ask me but that is going to be their massive problem to deal with... Cancel culture is the simple fact that corporations in the US who want to have a future are not gojng to take the side of the demographic that is shrinking at such a dramatic rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 07:19 AM
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You know... people already prosecute false accusations the same way they prosecute the accused to begin with... If the evidence is there and can meet "beyond reasonable doubt" for aggravated charges of perjury or malicious filing a false report then criminal charges are brought... And can carry prison sentences. What people clearly don't like here is that accusations can be made... But like it or not you need to prove that false accusations are false before conviction the same way you have to pr…
/r/MensRights30/05/22 03:17 AM
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I read "NiceGuys" whenever I need to feel good about myself and my own choices in life (even when I was super undesirable I never made it other people's problem or got whiny about being rejected). I go on the "IncelExit" when I want to balance out looking at incels with helping and offering encouragement to guys who feel lonely and want guidance to avoid getting trapped (or returning to) an incel mindset
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 05:43 AM
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I appreciate the spirit of debate here... I will try and expound on your point of parallels with nature. Just because something exists in nature does not mean it decides human behavior for the same reason precisely because culture/society play a massive role. Do women behave a certain way in a given aspect for the same reasons that female apes do? Or is it because society started expecting them to do so and assumed it was for the same reasons as female apes? EXAMPLE THAT IS NOT MEANT TO BAIT OR …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 05:52 AM
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Like it or not I can (without even knowing who you are) say the answer is yes because of how open ended your definition is. Also it is easy to make ANYONE look really really bad or really really good if you get to decide what information is available about them for the assessment. NOTE: Yes I am aware that there are insufferable Disney-brainwashed optimists who spout "a soul mate for everyone" bullshit. Fuck them in addition to all the people who say it is predetermined who dies poor and lonely …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 05:31 AM
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Mea culpa... got mixed up about which comment that was under. Does not happen to me often. In that case my question is this... everyone who can't find what they look for on the free market bitches about selection... what exactly is the problem with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 05:26 AM
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Not refuting the studies at all. Just reminding you that statistics don't tell you anything for certain about individuals. So you accept the limited information they represent. And also reminding you that any of the correlations noted could easily be the effects of cultural expectation. During the Victorian period one part of Darwin's work that was not accepted by society at large was the idea that females play a role in choosing mates (i.e. that it was not just males competing).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 05:17 AM
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The burden of proof is on YOU. You say he exists so try and point him out. The fact is there is literally no human you can just point to and say "this is a Top guy" because not everyone would agree and it would always depend on how much and what manner of information was shared about him. NOTE: This is ESPECIALLY true considering you have yet to describe exactly what purpose he is a "top guy" for exactly. So... again your claim is he exists objectively. So stop being vague and note someone... an…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 05:05 AM
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These are averaged behaviors that exist in the very subjective context of culture/society. It tells you about trends in the combined result of culture+biology. That it means it tells you nothing with reliability about culture OR biology,
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 04:45 AM
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Would you call someone who called their post-pregnancy wife "fat" to her face "honest" or just "an asshole"? Generally speaking... most S/O (no matter their gender) know better than give their unfiltered assessment to someone's face. Honesty at the wrong moment in the wrong way can always be destructive. Most people who offer these assessments don't give that information unfiltered to their partners because it would hurtful and unnecessary. All these guys need to know is (to use crass terms) the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 04:34 AM
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You can't make an argument that involves the phrase "top guy" when there is no definition of "top guy" that all or even most women would agree on. What is it based on? A tinder profile? A text conversation? A date? Then even if there were a way to compare any given two men that was always consistent for women (which there isn't) what percentile would define "top guy"? Also... top guy for what? Husband? Not all women want to get married. You are making statements based on a fantasyland where this…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 04:16 AM
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I would say "define top guy" but it would be a rhetorical question because by definition you can't. No matter how many women who say a guy is a "top guy" I could find plenty of women who say he is not or that they don't know enough based on a single date.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 04:08 AM
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Think about what you just said... you are saying life is either Disney (blue pill) or utterly completely soulless every human is market driven looks/money/etc (red pill). You want the "actual reality pill"? The one that is not as easy to swallow as as either of the above? Reality is COMPLICATED and every human being has the potential to be fit any world view you can imagine... some people are extremely driven by "market value" and some less so... and most people vary in that regard over the cour…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 04:02 AM
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You are missing the bit where some women decide they don't want a relationship with what is available. They can choose to do that same as men can choose to be single. It is pretty lame to bitch about their choice and say they should just settle to appease someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 03:48 AM
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Ok... define "average". If you want to reduce it all to economics then by "average men" are by definition the men that "average women" will accept and vice versa. I mean really... there is nothing more lame than a capitalist bitching about what the market decides.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 03:44 AM
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Anyway, I'll quote the first passage in your link which references a study. If you'd like to discard that reference and talk about a specific study, please let me know: I can gladly offer to backup my statement on virginity rates from the wealth of information from the CDC at this link. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/s.htm#sexualactivity Note the CDC reports that virgins make up 12.3 percent of females and 14.3 percent of males ages 20 to 24. That number drops below 5 percent for b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 05:50 AM
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Nope. The first bit of your comment has absolutely no relationship to the second bit. The first bit in no way implies the opposite of (and therefore disproves) the claim. It's trivial to construct a population which fits the first bit, but still supports the claim you believe it refutes. Saying "Nope" does not make it so. Lets start with the fact that having the same distribution of lifetime partner count means that the rates of virginity between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 08:33 AM
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I call "Troll" until you give a serious response. Good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 04:07 AM
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Ok I am calling "Troll" until you put some thought into your answers. Good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 04:06 AM
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The distribution of lifetime number of partners histogram (eepecially for recent generations when sectioned by age by age) follows the same curve and scale for both men and women. Your claim that women fuck a smaller subset of men than men fuck of women is flat out disproven by this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 04:04 AM
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You said prostitution is "basically the same thing" as casual sex and it is not. READ MY COMMENTS I NEVER SAID JACK SQUAT ABOUT THE ETHICS OF PROSTITUTION TAKEN ALONE. Seriously... when you are in a hole stop digging.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 04:01 AM
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Your comment was casual sex "basically the same thing" as prostitution and I pointed that it isn't. You are now throwing a fit. How many different ways are you going to try and package that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 03:59 AM
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I am a guy. Since when is sex my end goal? That's bullshit. In fact can flatly state that I gave up on sex/relationships as even a partial goal of social interactions with women. The funny part was that sex sorta just started happening when I got comfortable with myself not having any experience whatsoever at the age of 25. So itnis not like I am someone who takes it for granted. For the record (don't know whether this includes you or not) I see tons of people who complain about never having sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 03:45 AM
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That is a different question. I think we have established then that casual sex is not "basically the same thing" as prostitution then? Because that claim is the only reasin we went down this rabbit hole or that I even commented.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 06:42 PM
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Stop trying to change the subject. Unless you think all sex is "basically the same" because... people can get pregnant? (Not sure where that was going either) Because the question at hand is that you said it was "basically the same" when talking casual sex and prostitution. The point is clearly made that it is not. Try to lose gracefully.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 06:36 PM
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Uhhh... the reasoning "motives matter" is precisely WHY some sex is regulated and some is not. Not sure where you were going with that one... because it kind makes my point and not yours. I mean... that is kind of the crux of the matter that others are making clear to you... exactly the same reasoning as why an accident versus a murder often depends on what someone's motives were.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 06:27 PM
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Yeah by that reasoning motives don't matter. And they do. People acted distraught in NK when when Kim Jong Il died because they were terrified they would get sent to labor camps. Technically that is every bit as transactional as someone who actually cares about a relative dying wanting the dying relative to know it. And again... the claim that "basically the same because it is transactional" is preposterous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 06:23 PM
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People are splitting hairs over the monetary aspect and ignoring all the rest. For now I will ignore this rather ridiculous statement... because this one is even worse: Yeah but two people have sex, one wants a relationship, the other doesn't. What on EARTH makes you think that hooker sex OR casual sex can be at all assumed to be this way? Has it ever occurred to you that plenty of people talk about having a non-LTR because they both just want to hook up and not take things further? Also I doubt…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 06:09 PM
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You say "no shit we don't know anything" after making a brazen list of claims which you treated as given about men and women's behavior which you followed up by also making assumptions about why your own unproven claims were true. So if you are saying "we don't know that much if anything" then start acting like it ok? I mean seriously... how do you expect to get ANYWHERE trying to understand anything when you are constantly running with the same very arbitrary set of assumptions. Human experienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 05:56 PM
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https://www.mindbodygreen.com/articles/the-ideal-number-of-sexual-partners-for-men-women Here is a link to a ton of study links (inckuding longterm CDC based) The differences in numbers between men and women on sex are pretty minor. Stuns me how people bse their world view on something this easily falsifiable... like the myth that somehow women have fewer lifetime partners... some studies find the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 05:53 PM
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Uhhh... are you claiming that either gender does something other than "find the hottest person they can" for casual sex? Because that is kind of just a given when it comes to casual sex. Saying someone else sets the terms is absurd when it is something you both choose to do. No one is forcing you to settle for whatever you can find.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 05:42 PM
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Uhhhhh... all jokes aside... doesn't that same logic also mean men having sex are essentially prostitutes?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 05:28 PM
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Basically the same thing? Paying $500 an hour for someone to have sex with you as opposed to having two people who both want sex with one another... How on earth did you get "basically the same thing" from that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 05:24 PM
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Ok people... I like the constructive tone but you really need to let go of all this "amateur hour" biological anthropology... we have trouble understanding the mating habits of even very simple animals... let alone primates, let alone PEOPLE. If you look for simple explanations that seem to make sense a lot of the time... you will find whatever you are looking for. That is why it is called "confirmation bias". Personally I have met tons of sexually indifferent men and sexually insatiable women. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 05:16 PM
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Sorry but that claim about when men and women want sex is horsecrap... from direct perspectiive (I do NOT want sex all the time... and I think it is strange when people expect that just because I have a cock) and I have met TONS of men and women who are all over the spectrum... from completely indifferent all the time to insatiable all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 05:06 PM
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This whole line of reasoning is preposterous. Anyone is allowed to have whatever standards they choose. If there is no one who meets that standard then YOU DON'T HAVE TO DATE AT ALL (which is precissly what lots of women do)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 05:00 PM
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https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1474704915604563 The mean and median number of sex partners for men of different heights were: very short (9.4; 5), short (11.0; 7), average (11.7; 7), tall (12.0; 7), very tall (12.1; 7), and extremely tall (12.3; 7). An extremely short (5'2" to 5'4") to extremely tall (6'5"+) only meant 20% more lifetime sex partners on average. This is a pretty small effect. Calling height a "requirement" is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 04:55 PM
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https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1474704915604563 The mean and median number of sex partners for men of different heights were: very short (9.4; 5), short (11.0; 7), average (11.7; 7), tall (12.0; 7), very tall (12.1; 7), and extremely tall (12.3; 7). Yes it is a slight correlation... in fact a very slight one. So much so that extremely short to extremely tall only meant 20% more lifetime sex partners on average. Did you ever even attempt to look this up?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 05:26 PM
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Most women engage in casual sex. Just as many men engage in casual sex 2 . Women choose the hottest person available for casual sex. Men also go after the hottest person available 3 . Women settle for a less attractive man as the hottest man can't marry all the women he slept with. Men who settle long term with a single person it is likely that person is probably not the hottest person they have ever slept with. Somewhere in that you strangely came to the conclusion that things are only fair if …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 05:18 PM
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Gender reverse your post and it is also true. Women dont always get the guy they want and neither do men get the woman they want. Also sexual experience for men and women as a histogram from the CDC is the same, especially for younger age groups only with small variations. Any conclusions you draw about women also have to be true for men to be valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 04:06 AM
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Bingo. If someone wants to try and make an argument in this whole formal "A and B and C means X" fashion then they can't fudge a definition as "close enough"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 04:05 AM
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There is a SLIGHT CORRELATION between being below average height and being single for men. Stop calling this a "requirement" when it is obviously a "slight preference on average" EDIT: And for heavens sake... please see the journal evidence in a lower thread which gives statistics before trying to make claims about averages based on biased sample groups (i.e. the things a given person or group happens to notice)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 04:01 AM
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Short men get women. A lot. In fact the correlation between being short and single is pretty weak for men. Like a 55%/45% higher rate for below average height men compared to above average at most. A man who is getting no matches but who is short is giving an excuse because he prefers something he can say is outside his control.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 03:58 AM
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Ok... as a guy I had to laugh out loud at the idea of men being "tough" Why? Because when it comes to taking rejection I am constantly reminded that today most men are the most unbelievably hypersensitive, whiny, desperate, blustery snowflakes that humanity has produced. It took me forever when I first got serious about dating to realize that women were terrified of saying they were not interested... all I could think was "Jeez... it is like I am going to start bellowing at her or burst into tea…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 03:37 AM
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I agree that it absolutely plays in one's favor. That is not something I challenged. I think you need to address the question that I did bring up. If you were not attracted to a woman to begin with... are you claiming that being friendly and kind and smart can automatically change her from "no attraction" to "she is the one I really want" attractive? I think you know very well that is not automatically the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 03:15 AM
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Yuuuuup... thorough "fall on my knees in thanks" royal treatment... messed up huh? What is sad is that tons of guys will read that and go "but she didn't fuck you so how is it knight treatment???" And I will never have a big enough hand to facepalm with. The "knight treatment" is someone saying "oh my gosh you actually did not act entitled" and attack hugging you. I try my best to hug back, laugh and remind them they should not need to applaud a fish for swimming. Privately I get massive good fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 02:56 AM
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The problem is that if you are a man, being raised to think that gender roles don't matter is not a good thing because women are absolutely going to impose gender roles on you, if you ever want to have any success with them. Gender roles are only dying for women. Men are still held to extremely strict roles, primarily by women Speak for yourself buddy. Even before I went into the land of poly/kink/bdsm/pansexuality I dated as a ordinary straight guy for a while. The best success I had by far was…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:31 PM
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1) I am currently in a polyamorous arrangement with multiple partners, mostly female identifying (I am pansexual... but oddly enough I am shy/nervous regarding my interest in trying biological cocks as opposed to strapons). Ethical poly means everyone always knows about and is ok with everyone else. Some of my partners know each other well, some only in passing. FYI: This is all in the past 10 years. Before that I was a 25 year old 300 pound virgin dude with the social skills of Gollum/Smeagol. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:06 PM
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LOL well... college campus was the easiest place to get laid for everyone EXCEPT the guy who is older, fat and talking with a stutter (which I had st the time)... that is precisely what was making me despair... and when I did get a girlfriend for the first time she was an early 30's pharmaceutical rep. I am only proud of how I managed because I now know how often people take rejection poorly... when I get the "knight in shining" armor treatment these days for handling rejection well I always try…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:56 PM
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I really like the constructive nature and tone of this discussion... The reason I giving a strong opinion on this is not in ignorance I promise. While I might be a polyamorous pansexual guy with no shortage of partners now, I was once a 25 year old 300 pound virgin guy with non-existent social skills trying to keep himself from despairing when being on a college campus. I was always (and continue to be) proud of how much trouble I went to take rejection well in those difficult days. I knew that …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:53 PM
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There is still a pay gap. And there is also a dearth of women in leadership positions. This is the remaining damage of sexism that we have not undone yet. My philosophy as a guy is "fix the remaining damage so equality is actually achieved between genders... then complain"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:53 PM
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Dude... do the math and ask this question about how attraction works for you: If a girl behaves like a douchebag it does not play in her favor... but since when does a girl being nice or kind automatically mean (solely by itself, independent of other qualities) that you suddenly go "I want her to be my girlfriend"? It doesn't work that way. You know this already. So apply it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:49 PM
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Simple... it does not affect them. Good guys handle rejection like a grownup by accepting someone is not into them. No wheedling, aggression, or begging. No trying to essentially tell her "attraction is a choice" by saying "you are not trying hard enough to see me as attractive!" Good guys also know that if you expect a relationship as a result of being a kind friend... then it is not actually being kind. It is a selfishly assuming that you are owed desireability if you show kindness to people y…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:38 PM
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NiceGuys forum is specifically men who can't process rejection like a grownup: They claim they are "better than most guys" which conveniently sets the bar of "good" at their perception of what "most guys" are... which is of course a hypothetical standard based on biased observations (what human beings notice is never a random sample and is therefore never a reliable gauge of "typical" behavior) They say they "deserve more of a chance" instead asking themselves "if this person is not attracted to…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:32 PM
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It is really not that complicated... You claimed that attrzction to women is dependent on how many men they have slept with. And the simple fact is you have no way of knowing what that is nor does it affect you in and of itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:15 PM
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Sure! https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db209.htm Figures 1 and 2 That is just the start
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 08:07 PM
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It makes women with high n counts insecure, so they cannot stop trying to negotiate attraction (even though they are the ones that say you cannot negotiate attraction the most). You are saying that how many people a woman has slept with somehow dictates how attractive they are... and it is not something you can claim is a part of their phydical appearance. If you are attracted to THEN then say you decide they are not attractive because they have had lots of sex you are making a value judgement..…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 08:02 PM
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LOL so you can look at women and see how many men she has been with as easily as seeing what her hair color is?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 05:07 PM
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If what you said was true that women now have the same opportunities as men: There would not be a massive pay gap that still exists today Corporate executives and STEM fields would not be male dominated.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 07:41 AM
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Were you referring to a theoretical person needing a career? Were you referring to yourself needing a career? NOTE: i really hope you were not going for a cheap shot that isn't even applicable to me... but when you leave a two word answer I can only guess your intended meaning. All I know for certain is that you are not referring to me since I have a career.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 07:15 AM
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As someone who was a mentally ill, obese, unemployed virgin at the age of 25 (and who actually found self-acceptance BEFORE changing their circumstances)... I need to ask you again... what does someone have to gain besides hookup sex by pretending to be someone else? Because I don't see how any relationship has a future if it involves you pretending to be someone you are not. NOTE: There is a huge dofference between lying about who you are and slowly trusting someone with the parts of yourself t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:43 PM
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Yup... and it makes no sense to do so... because individuals just vary too much for cateogorizing to make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:38 PM
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NOPE... at most the average mean values are still always within a quartile range of one another. For ages 15-19 the number of opposite sex partners for categories 0, 1, 2-3 and 4+ are all within a few percent of one another. Don't take my word for it... check for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:32 PM
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I did not get jnto a relationship in my late 20's... but fortunately even recovering from severe mental illness and trying to be a human again I always knew better than to get whiny or generalize... because it makes no sense to claim that attraction is a choice or that I want someone to pretend to be attrzcted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 06:24 PM
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Still a little confused by what you have to gain aside from hookup sex by being something other than yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:33 AM
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My goodness do any of you people actually look up some of the numbers on various measures/age-histograms of promiscuity snd sexual experience from the CDC and in general from public polling organizations? The difference is pretty minimal when you compare genders. Making sweeping conclusions about trends and demographic groups based solely on your personal experience is foolish for anyone to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:18 AM
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That is exactly what I am saying... you need either: All the information. A valid random sample with clearly defined definitions of "success" that everyone can agree on (the existence of which is doubtful) Trends are data about large groups, i.e. you are talking about the branch of math that is statistics. Guess what? For any statistical conclusions to be valid based on a sample the prerequisite is a non-faulty data set which represents a large RANDOM sample of the population in question. What y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:01 AM
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Respectfully, it sounds like you are making a blanket statement about men and women, when the truth is that things vary so much more from person to person and even over the lifetime of a single individual. Generally speaking someone (man or woman) who is in a untenable monogamous relationship has all kinds of ways they could have gotten to that point. They could be pretending to be straight when they are gay out of desperation to be normal... they could be a shameless narcissist who is never sat…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 08:41 PM
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LOL did you install bodycams when everyone was born and then go over all the data? How exactly did you ascertain whether the people you perceive as successful (or who are vocal about sexual success) represent an accurate "sex census"? Did you get a random sample of all sex happening at any given moment in order to characterize the demographics?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 08:24 PM
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LOL this right here everyone... bingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 08:19 PM
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I agree... even if you defined "sexually successful" in blunt terms (which hardly guarantees "successful" coincides with good things) .. unless you do a large, randomly selected sample of men and are also able to read minds this statement has no validity. It is just a highly biased opjnion that runs counter to the life experiences of many and varies depending in how you define "success".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 08:18 PM
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"Just be yourself" is predicated on some bare minimums... it assumes that you have worked on yourself enough that: You are comfortable in your own skin (i.e. you accept yourself as you are, with or without a relationship) You do not act or feel entitled to women's attention/affection. You can be genuine without spilling your guts emotionally to someone you are still getting to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 08:09 PM
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I am very clearly addressing your objections. You really need to try actually reading what I wrote. I made it clear that by any definitions of responsibility OR blame (notice that in my comment I referred to them both separately in a deliberate way) you can't assign either one to someone who is a victim of assault or harassment. MY EXAMPLE: I brought up the carjacking example because by any separate definitions of responsibility or blame there is no way a judge or jury would (in the course of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 05:10 AM
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Once at a peer support group I facilitated we had a guy who sat next to a girl and literally stared sideways and down at a 60 degree angle looking directly at her crotch while barely ever looking up. He went back and forth between having his mouth hang open and then doing this big smile (while still staring at her crotch). Yep... there are some looks that absolutely qualify as harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 05:05 AM
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There is a difference between considering someone attractive and harassing them about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 10:06 PM
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Libertarian sex-positive culture has an issue with older men giving younger women UNWANTED attention. I am not where this rant about age gaps comes from when it concerns consenting adults who are mutually interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 10:00 PM
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If you are saying you have no boundaries if people are not touching you, I could bring up the obvious example of people saying "Not touching! Not touching!" while holding their fingers an inch away. I am assuming you are going to make the absurd claim that you would be fine with that all day. The fact is you DO have boundaries regarding behavior that does not involve actual touching. And you need to recognize and not dismiss the fact that women also have boundaries in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 07:48 PM
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I said this... You are claiming no boundaries when it comes to how someone behaves towards you as long as they don't physically touch you? Because if you try to say "no" then I am calling BS. Such a claim would be dishonest in the extreme... or just an extreme lack of imagination or a lack of willingness to consider things you would not like. You said... Nah, I'm just not a crazy woman, that's all :) I made it pretty clear I was not talking about the specific example anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 07:43 PM
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Yeah that's a lie to say you have no boundaries and would put up with anything. We're done. If you feel like continuing this debate in good faith again you can start with that admission.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 07:38 PM
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You are claiming no boundaries when it comes to how someone behaves towards you as long as they don't physically touch you? Because if you try to say "no" then I am calling BS. Such a claim would be dishonest in the extreme... or just an extreme lack of imagination or a lack of willingness to consider things you would not like.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 07:34 PM
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I am pansexual thank you very much... so just a bit of friendly advice you might want to abandon the whole "they are homophobic!" angle. My point is that it is someone you absolutely do not have sexual interest in (since you implied and later said outright that you were straight) I have been quite clear we are not talking about someone finding you attractive. So please read the rest more carefully as I try to make the point a little more bluntly. What we ARE talking about is someone following yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 07:21 PM
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Yeah I am calling BS on that. Because whatever you want to claim online you have boundaries and things that would make you uncomfortable that don't involve actually touching you. Seriously... saying you would be fine with someone harassing you to get their rocks off is a laughably obvious lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 06:58 PM
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So... you are defending the guy who just sat and stared at a girl's crotch from a few feet away with his mouth hanging open? You are saying "well if the view was just really REALLY great it is not his fault he is looking" am I reading that correctly? Just want to confirm this... because that seems to be a very odd place to plant a flag in a debate. NOTE: That is an actual example for a guy at a peer support group where I was one of the facilitators. I would know because I had to talk to him abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 06:50 PM
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If someone had their car stolen driving a Rolls Royce in a rough neighborhood... are you claiming they would bear responsibility or fault for someone stealing it? No. Of course not. Whatever practical advice you want to give them about prevention is fine... but NO ONE would try to claim for one second that a judge would admonish the victim/driver or say they did something wrong or bear some kind of responsibility for being robbed. So yet again I will say... stop being a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 06:36 PM
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Lol you and your type are so predictable I can just copy and paste my replies to each of your points, I don't have to type anything new other than this dunk. Yeah and I can say the same thing. In fact me saying I can cut and paste from previous comments I have made is kind of like saying the sky is blue on Reddit. It is always a lot faster. Every time you women resort to this bullshit strawman. NO ONE IS ADVOCATING FOR ASSAULT. Every time women play this game like clock work. When did I say I wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 06:29 PM
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All fair points! I get it... it is a difficult needle to thread sometimes negotiating practical advice with steering society away from all the Stepford Wives crap of the past...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 06:17 AM
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So my point is that no one should be defending people who do the consent version of saying "not touching!!! not touching!!!" while holding your fingers an inch away. I have seen guys say "what? I was just looking around..." when they were literally sitting next to a woman and staring down at a 60 degree angle at her crotch with their mouth hanging open. You can say "this is practical advice don't flash your wealth around in a rough neighborhood" but what I am hearing is people defend the "rights…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:53 AM
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See... that is where we differ... I personally don't subscribe to the philosophy... YOUR REASONING: "Sorry you are too attractive with clothes that are too flattering so you need to endure someone physically larger staring slack-jawed at your ass from a few feet away" ... seriously did you bother to think this through?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:33 AM
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Would consider it acceptable for an enormous gay man to see your photo and then follow you around and stare at your crotch with his mouth hanging open? I'm glad you would No I would not consider it acceptable... that is precisely my point... I think that was pretty obvious. What if he said "well you posted a photo where you were not wearing deliberately baggy clothes... and I could see you had a build so yiu sre just being a tease!"? I would call up his English teacher for his horrible grammar G…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:29 AM
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"Dress more modestly" Sure... and move to Afghanistan while you are at it so you can live with like-minded people. Either you accept people have the right dress how they want without being harassed or you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:22 AM
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Spoke a little soon didn't you? Either you accept that women should in principle not have to worry about how they dress or you are being a victim blaming douchebag. Bottom line is if a woman just got raped you should NEVER ask "what were you wearing" afterwards. Practical advice in a shitty world is one thing... but it is an entirely different matter to take the position "you are at fault for not hiding how attractive you are". That is just screwed up medieval BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:19 AM
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Uhhh no you do NOT have to be homophobic. I am pansexual and I have had guys be very inappropriate in how they expressed interest in me. The point is that having someone who might be physically intimidating adds a whole different level of threat. So there is still an element of personal responsibility here. Sure, someone should not be a creep here but common sense dictates you shouldn't make it easy for creeps either. What the hell is this crap? You are literally saying "it is not their fault bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:16 AM
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Plese actually read my comment before posting a response. HINT: I said PEOPLE without specifying a gender. ALSO NOTE: it is my opinion that very often people experienced relationship-wise will get in relationships misrepresenting their own intentions to someone who is relatively inexperienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 05:07 AM
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As long as people are up to date on STD tests what business is it of theirs?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 09:32 PM
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Age gaps (so long as the person is not underage, like most high schoolers would be) is not the problem... the problem is how often older men target younger women. Usually this is what isncalled being "creepy"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 09:25 PM
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Bingo. When women in early 20's say "please stop being a creep" to older men they usually keep on being creeps.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 09:23 PM
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Misrepresenting your intentions (which is precisely what we wre talking about here) is a messed up, lame, cruel thing to do. It does not matter what the age gap is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 09:22 PM
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So by that reasoning an enormous gay man could just stare at your ass all day long at point blank range while drooling and you would be cool with it? No you would not. So stop being a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 09:19 PM
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If a gay man much larger than you that you found repellent was just flat out staring at your ass while drooling and grunting to himself for hours on end... you are saying you would be totally fine with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 09:15 PM
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Uhhh... are you saying you would buy that excuse if a huge gay man starting following you around and drooling while staring at your pelvis? No? Then please extend others the same courtesy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 09:13 PM
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You probably like to look your best on a photo. Would consider it acceptable for an enormous gay man to see your photo and then follow you around and stare at your crotch with his mouth hanging open? What if he said "well you posted a photo where you were not wearing deliberately baggy clothes... and I could see you had a build so you sre just being a tease!"? Quit being a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 09:09 PM
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