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But will the throughline literally always be visible to you, the external observer
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 05:56 PM

No way to know why a given individual is doing what they're doing. Statistics say one thing only to later realize they missed some other thing. The assumption is that it is a march toward more truth, but that too is unknowable for many things. Not to mention the unavoidable bias that a living person will inevitably have in interpreting reality, based on their experiences and how those interact with their genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 05:49 PM

Most people are bored. They're cowardly and then they're bored and they do the surprised Pikachu thing. It's exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 05:31 PM

Only a mind reading device could truly hope to unpack. The rest is just speculation and inference.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 05:30 PM

Going from no experience to nonzero experience is huge. And then you can trade up for a better model
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 05:30 PM

I don't think that this kind of thing is tied or endemic to an age gap relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 04:43 PM

exacerbate Extremes are the best most people settle for a bland life of mediocre compromise because of indoctrination
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 04:37 PM

They prefer what they prefer. If you aren't dating the same gender, you're just not going to have the same reaction to whether to partner with them or not because you're not going to partner with them anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 04:34 PM

Women have a higher pain threshold than men: study
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 04:32 PM

Once you crack the seal, you seek a better deal
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 04:28 PM

Average height men are gross but average height women are fine.") Find one woman who also thinks average height women are gross Good luck
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 04:20 PM

It starts getting muddy though. Correlation/causation, it's one thing to look at it in a scientific sense, but then in the way certain traits are incentivized and reinforced as a heuristic it can end up looking kind of similar from the perspective of the chooser: Preselection, guys who get around tending to be high value Another example could be a girl who grows up in an environment where the traits high value and "aggressive/physical/dominating/criminality" tend to move together, and so sooner …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 04:13 PM

Oh was that a literal comparison I was just referring to the concept
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 04:09 PM

Women have higher pain tolerance. you can't just implant the experience itself to the other gender without the context. What matters is net perceived suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 04:06 PM

No u
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 05:58 AM

You always say that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 05:58 AM

baby it's old outside
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 05:56 AM
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Where I am there is no effective difference where either are concerned if you were legally married or just common law That is not the case anywhere in the US is my point, even in the few places that recognize a form of common law marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 10:24 PM
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How does it matter If women can't leverage their mathematical supremacy, then they don't deserve to 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 09:08 PM
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I'm assuming not in the US, because even in US jurisdictions that recognize common law marriage, you must affirmatively hold each other out in public and husband and wife
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 09:07 PM
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Your last point does not make sense. Women are blocked and discriminated to be able to get to politics and position of power in most places. Everything right now is decided in predominant majority by men regarding the ongoing war. In a democracy, elected officials are mathematically accountable to women, who form the majority of the electorate
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 06:46 PM
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maybe try re-evaluating yourself for those behaviors first No u
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 06:25 PM
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Don't have to put women draftees on the front lines
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 06:12 PM
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Awwwyeee
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 06:12 PM
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This can only be done by a society that does not care about itself and it’s future. Such societies are doomed to loose in any case because As women's education goes up, birthrate goes down, ergo no more breeding at replacement level. What's the difference? Also it’s quite a stupid “equality talk” because all wars are started and supported by men. In democracies, women are the majority of the electorate at every level of constituency
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 06:11 PM
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Edit: although this is an interesting development https://www.tbsnews.net/world/finland-or-sweden-joining-nato-would-spark-russian-response-russia-warns-376246 Yeah your optimism on this appears totally grounded in semantics, taking literally but not seriously the concerns and fears
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 06:09 PM
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filled
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 06:06 PM
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Equality when convenient
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 06:03 PM
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Apply within Giggity
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 06:01 PM
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That she's a stripper talking about what is unhinged
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 06:01 PM
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Yeah take control by not marrying
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 06:01 PM
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many woman are left with men that aren’t that sexually appealing, while most men find their woman sexually appealing. Or no one finds the other sexually appealing boredom etc aside from market dynamics of pairing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 06:00 PM
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Only bothers me when committing. give me images. Makes me feel icky. Thus I don't commit. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 06:00 PM
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It's not "getting around it" it's just reality men are dating women, not men..it's up to women to decide what to do about men's n count, whether to accept or decline a particular amount Start building that hyPOcRiSy jAiL lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 05:55 PM
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And so, Men should stop being hypocrites using bs lock and key anology and 'muh biology' if they want low n count women. Men are dating women, not men..it's up to women to decide what to do about men's n count, whether to accept or decline a particular amount Start building that hyPOcRiSy jAiL lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 05:55 PM
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Unmarried cohabitants break up at an even higher rate. It's just your turn
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:22 PM
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Well someone who is really mentally ill could potentially still be in a healthy relationship I suppose, such as it is; however, it might take a lot of work, or as the femmies call it now eMotiOnAl lAbOr, to keep the wheels turning
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:18 PM
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Kids do mean power and money for the woman yet I wouldn't forego kids just because of that. For one thing can't take money with you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:17 PM
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Hope she sees this bro
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:05 PM
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What do you do for work? You couldn't afford me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:19 PM
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long term commitment Even marriage is a glorified quickie When in Rome might as well enjoy it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:14 PM
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In which case... maybe get therapy or work on your self-esteem or something, that doesn't really seem like a healthy way to view relationships or sex. Why? What about girls who want to be viewed as commitment? Why don't they need tHerApy? Is it because only women's preferences are valid 🤣 (and even then, it's only a part of their preferences, which is the whole point. Thanks liberation!)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:13 PM
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The truth is people behave in their interest. the speculations as to why share the common thread that there ain't nothing free in this life. the uglier guy is paying to be with the hotter girl one way or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:59 PM
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Talking to someone =/ answering to someone. but I guess if you had better linguistic skills you'd be doing something different
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:57 PM
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With even the highest form of commitment, marriage, today breakable at any time for no reason or any reason, we are all cheap rental cars anyway. Might as well optimize
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:56 PM
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It's not really conspiratorial to assume that people act in their best interest lol You see a girl whose much hotter than the guy she's with I mean the obvious inference is he must be wealthy, but it's not necessarily that (or only that) She might be extremely mentally unstable and he's willing to put up with it because she's hotter than him Maybe she has a hidden disability/physical illness Maybe she's unwilling to ever have sex Who knows?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:52 PM
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Ew
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:48 PM
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So I think we all know the answer. That I don't answer to useless strippers? Yep you got it sugar
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:47 PM
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likely not as hot as you think you are. 36 Virtual certainty
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:42 PM
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r/notliketheothergirls
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:39 PM
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unhinged I miss the old days when strippers would shut the fuck up and not lecture you current year is the worst
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:38 PM
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What you don't see is the transaction being undertaken behind the scenes
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:36 PM
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Even r/blind isn't interested in your page
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:10 PM
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It's no less ridiculous when women complain about unmet high standards as when men do
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:09 PM
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Yeah but like 80% of Americans can't even stop from eating themselves into an early grave so clearly it's not too many people What're you gonna do...whine about whining 🤣 Enjoy I guess oh superior one 🥇
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:08 PM
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how many girls in here are glorified internet strippers
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:04 PM
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Lol society wide gaslighting
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:54 AM
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I prefer the long run. What long run even the highest form of commitment, marriage, is today a glorified quickie, breakable at any time for no reason or any reason
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:52 AM
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Oh word
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:44 AM
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Why not do what feels good lmao Only things to mind are fitness and finances Otherwise hedonism is the order of the day
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:35 AM
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Lol that's very dramatic in addition to being false. Rejecting whoever doesn't meet your standards means more time to expend on those who do
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:34 AM
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I mean if not committing to them sure past isn't relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:33 AM
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Why not have a relationship with a girl who doesn't make you wait 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:33 AM
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Just saying, if it's a choice between accepting a shitty deal because of thirst and fucking hookers the latter is way less destructive Also wet dick feels good 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:16 AM
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Yeah or whatever your personal cutoff is timeline wise
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:10 AM
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Who cares what it was originally used for. Everyone has the sole sovereign to take each and every lawful measure available to them to protect their self interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:09 AM
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So don't wait 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:08 AM
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A girl who made even one guy not wait certainly isn't worth waiting for Yeah maybe some people are too weak to act on their convictions, so they settle and live a mediocre life of bland compromise, act out their rage and dissatisfaction years later, etc Doesn't mean it's the right thing to do It's exhausting being so much better than people
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:08 AM
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She could just be using disparate standards. There really is no way to know which it is. Thanks liberation!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 11:02 AM
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When in Rome
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:59 AM
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🎶I wish I could fuck every girl in the world🎶
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:57 AM
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If there was any way to tell who they are that'd be one thing, but in current year there isn't. Odds are there's at least one guy she hasn't made wait. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:55 AM
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This is the way, except odds are in current year there's at least one guy she hasn't made wait
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:54 AM
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Do you think that sexually conservative women just don't exist or something? Of course they do. Point is there's no way to know who they are (especially that theres not a single guy they had sex with quickly). As the old line feminists put it, have to treat all MnMs as poisoned. I don't know why you're talking about a "remedy" like either party has done something wrong here - they haven't, they just want different things. Sometimes people (especially women) complain "he didn't even give me a cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:53 AM
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She's welcome to change her mind all she wants...and some other guy can deal with it lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:46 AM
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You don't get to decide what is problematic 🤷‍♂️ If there's even one guy she didn't make wait, no waiting for her End of story
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:32 AM
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Once a girl slept with a man quickly because she was told it was liberating. She realized it wasn't. Never did it again. And here you upset that it wasn't you? I'm just not going to waste time on her. Only a virgin is worth waiting for. Someone who made even one guy not wait certainly isn't worth waiting for Yall are insecure AF. You deserve to be single. Cry more ho
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:30 AM
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Modern society: Women can have whatever standards they want, but men daring to have standards are iNsEcuRe Any man dumb enough or weak enough to fall for modernity's machinations against men deserves every bit of misery that will befall them as a result
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:30 AM
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Again false Odds are doesn't mean literally every woman Odds are means odds are
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:28 AM
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Once more, odds are in current year there's at least one guy she hasn't made wait. do you disagree? Or is it more PasT iS pAsT iT dOesnT mAttEr 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:27 AM
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Shitty women love these games. Good women don't. Odds are in current years there's at least one guy she hasn't made wait. Be that guy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:26 AM
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Again, odds are there's at least one guy she hasn't made wait, so this song and dance is low trickery, a facade, a scam It's less than meaningless
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:25 AM
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Well yeah, and so whoever isn't into it, don't waste time on them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:24 AM
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I agree, no conditions, no opportunity for remedy, just departure. Most likely, if she's not into casual sex with you, she's not in the "into casual sex" group, There's a whole thread of women on the top post page attesting to their dual mating strategy lol. It's 2022 girl mask's off now
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:23 AM
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So discard the women who won't stand for it. Everyone wins Odds are in current years there's at least one guy she hasn't made wait. Be that guy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:22 AM
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Only if you want to date promiscuous women It being current year, odds are there's at least one guy she hasn't made wait You also shouldn't pretend like you're not sleeping with other women while "waiting" Why not and please, if you "discard", do it tactfully What's the difference? You're never going to see each other again. and don't pressure. Discarding is the literal opposite of pressure
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:14 AM
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If you want to be the guy a girl sleeps with quickly, and a girl isn't sleeping with you quickly, it's best not to waste time on her
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:12 AM
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Right but rather than accept shitty terms because of thirst, that's a better way to fill the dry spells
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:07 AM
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Better than accepting shitty terms is the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:51 AM
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Also, not all guys can afford to do this The ones who aren't doing it because of lack of options are better off fucking hookers to fill the dry spells than accepting misery
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:48 AM
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deathbed Even the highest form of commitment, marriage, is today a glorified quickie breakable at any time for no reason or any reason Just think of a hookup as an early divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:39 AM
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Being a man it's about men getting what men want with as little investment as possible, the rest is extraneous No slower than the fastest she's ever given it up
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:33 AM
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It's well established that women have higher physical standards for casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:28 AM
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It's well established that women have higher physical standards for casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:27 AM
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Wet dick feels good
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:25 AM
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So it's fine when women adopt this philosophy too, right? They already have After all, ain't no laws against cheating on your "beta" husband with an "alpha" and tricking him into thinking it's his kid. There's also no laws against divorcing at any time for no reason or any reason, ie conveniently once you've got your vig She's just fulfilling her biological imperative! That's the excuse that RP men give to cheat and lie, right? Muh biotruths? That is correct. The strongest and most valuable get …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:14 AM
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Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:10 AM
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I can safely say that the number is 0% if you are misogynistic, pedantic and feel entitled to women 🤣That's why criminals and other low lifes have such high fertility rates right 0% That is too precious Who manufactures you people Like a test tube pull string doll of modernist indoctrination
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:58 AM
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It's well established that women have higher physical standards for casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:44 AM
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Who gives a fuck lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:43 AM
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booby prize? Because it is People bang other people they're attracted to but aren't actually into all the damn time. There's not some Machiavellian plot behind it - they're usually just horny. Great so just be that guy for a girl, and if not for a given girl discard. Simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:41 AM
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But man, when it works, it fucking works In current year? Works like a Powerball lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:37 AM
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and be able to claim joint custody in case of divorce. The laws of custody, favoring frequent and continuing contact with both parents, are identical as between married and unmarried parents
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:37 AM
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Damn. They say it goes underdiagnosed in women guess that's an illustration right there
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:34 AM
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my autism Unironically?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:24 AM
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It's well established that women raise their physical standards for casual
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:16 AM
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when that day comes? Marriage is no longer a lifetime commitment, thus you are proposing a false choice that no longer exists
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:14 AM
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Once is a pretty low threshold
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:03 AM
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Lol bubbles are great till they burst
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:14 AM
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Username checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:11 AM
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Nice compliant middle class martyrs
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:08 AM
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It's either a choice for you or it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:07 AM
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Yes true money is fungible but that's baked into the calculation at least whereas the benefits arising out of marriage are additional to that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:05 AM
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Easy, but soon boring
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:59 AM
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Odds are in current year she's done so at least once
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:45 AM
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Men here constantly complain about high N women, which are the type that would bang you on the first date, but when a woman wants to wait a few months for sex men lose their collective minds Odds are in current year there's at least one guy she hasn't made wait. Be that guy, or discard until you're that guy for some other girl
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:43 AM
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respectable 🤣 Fuckin Boomer those days are over
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:40 AM
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Like I said, you can still be sued even if not married. It’s wishful thinking if you think you can avoid this and still have a relationship that you treat like a marriage. Still far fewer rights And why do you say only to avoid “as a man”? How would men avoid marriage and women wouldn’t? You think women should marry each other? As a man you can also choose someone who earns an income if you want and that would also avoid having a stay at home partner you have to pay for. Man wants kids. Woman A …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:18 AM
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Case closed
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:16 AM
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If you get into a partnership with someone, and agree “I’ll bring in the money to the household that we will need, and you do unpaid labor like take care of the children”, then when the contract is dissolved splitting everything equally seems to march the agreement made to me. Avoidable if you just don't marry. As a man, don't marry. Avoid. But also, it’s not always split 50/50, I know lots of divorced people where the higher earner got the house because they paid for it. The assets as a whole a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:01 AM
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Ugh damn sorry to hear that. I have to ask, knowing now how it ends, would you have repeated
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:00 AM
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Yeah. They do have this thing called covenant marriage in Louisiana
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:59 AM
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The quoted portion states Agreeing to take care of her Which is an obligation that only arises out of marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:58 AM
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No way to know if you genuinely found one until it's too late. Thus, may as well enjoy them...but no need to marry them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 02:57 AM
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It's certainly simpler than it used to be, though noted that that is not as simple as other places
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:45 AM
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These are fair risk reduction strategies, sure. can't beat not marrying though
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:44 AM
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Not just alimony but also that assets are divided equally despite disparate contributions (as is the case due to disparate income). No such issues in nonmarital cohabitation. protection from ending up destitute if your partner leaves and you are a stay at home parent, etc. It's on women to decide what to do about that risk, yet with out of wedlock birth rates at 40% (over half of millenial births, and only patriarchal Utah is less than 20%, there's ample women available who will bear children wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:44 AM
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Im saying what I'm saying, which is that the person experiencing the thing won't admit the thing. That same person may very well notice this behavior in others, however "grrrl you always want em bad when they ghost" etc
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:41 AM
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what i still have as my goal in the end- something that will last. Like they did things in generations s before. Those days are over
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:58 AM
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And how does that affect the outcomes for the children? How does divorce? Yet you can divorce at any time for no reason or any reason. It is what it is. How often are these parents both raising the children together and is there any guarantee that they will? No guarantee married couples will raise the children together either. Do you really think that a "mummy mode" woman will go for it when they are even more screwed over in case of breaking up? That's if her neurotic highness even deigns to ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:57 AM
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Well if you don't marry, the state can't impose its will for what will happen in the event of divorce. So don't marry. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:50 AM
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Time to start dealin
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:50 AM
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Why skip kids if you want kids though...it's the marriage part that is ccompletely useless
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:50 AM
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Yet the wheels keep turning, 40% of births out of wedlock, over half of millennial births, only Utah less than 20% etc You know where you can shove this strawman of middle class neuroticism
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:49 AM
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Make a post about women's risks from marriage🤷‍♂️it's for women to decide what to do about said risks and if they're justifiable I am definitely open to the conclusion that marriage is a useless prison for all
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:48 AM
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Making sex more than it is is a lot of guys' downfall. I mean don't get me wrong ain't no feeling better than pussy, yet the unsampled will lead to even more lionization than is warranted
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:47 AM
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A guy who says no woman wants him and has tried everything? What do you say to that? Wet your dick first. Even if it's a hooker. rest will follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:41 PM
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40% of births are out of wedlock, over half of millenial births. Times have changed. It is very much realistic. Thanks liberation!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:39 PM
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Men choose what they do about their risks, women choose what they do about theirs. It's pretty clearly the rational choice for men to avoid marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:29 PM
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It's up to women what to choose to do about the risks they face
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:22 PM
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I agree that different people have different values For example, mediocre people martyr themselves and sacrifice for NOTHING so they can pat themselves on the head and tell themselves what a good boy they are
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:14 PM
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Or just don't give 🤷‍♂️ Yeah I mean what you wish to give makes sense But if you're like "this isn't what I expected for this level of giving", give less or don't give
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:11 PM
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power hungry loser 🤣Says every mediocre ever
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:10 PM
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They ordered it, they go to jail
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:05 PM
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You can choose to have a child unmarried. And that is the clearly superior choice for a man
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 11:05 PM
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Divorce laws benefit the parent, involuntarily. Far better to not submit to that. Child support is there whether or not you are married. The concern is the why, and the how (involuntarily). Why subject yourself to that when more freedom is on offer. It's irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:54 PM
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So if a woman wants to have kids, is she better off being married or unmarried If a man wants to have kids, is he better off being married or unmarried? Seems pretty clear for the man. Unmarried. And the stats show plenty of women are willing (majority of millennials). Problem solved
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:53 PM
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Well there are women willing to have kids without marrying (thanks liberation!), so from the guy's perspective, no need to submit to involving the state in mandating whether and to what extent that protection will be provided
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:47 PM
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This is comparing the woman to the man rather than comparing: the woman if she had kids but didn't marry v did marry to the man if he had kids but didn't marry v did marry
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:44 PM
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That's what the discussion is about. I don't remember holding you hostage forcing you to engage.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:44 PM
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It is more likely a mother would have that kind of reaction and fight tooth and nail for the ability to stay with the child herself. If your argument is that the woman is taking that risk too, well, that's for women to decide whether it's worth taking or not
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:35 PM
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It is more likely a mother would have that kind of reaction and fight tooth and nail for the ability to stay with the child herself. If your argument is that the woman is taking that risk too, well, that's for women to decide whether it's worth taking or not
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:34 PM
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Lol meanwhile "women can smell MisOgynY from a continent away"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:33 PM
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There's no reason to accept the risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:28 PM
1

I think heroin has benefits for those who want it 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:28 PM
1

They feel they're in wuvvvvv
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:28 PM
1

Then just be nonrmarital cohabitants 🤷‍♂️that way no need to risk the downside. No need to marry even to have kids anymore...40% of births are out of wedlock, including over half of millennial births. Only patriarchal Utah is less than 20%. Thanks liberation!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:27 PM
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Yet that can be imposed unilaterally. If that's not what was agreed to, the cost isn't being borne through agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:26 PM
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Make the same amount (like in your scenario) She can change her mind later
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:26 PM
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Either way, that's where the devil of the details is. the flood of hormones warping perceptions is perhaps an even better reason to conclude marriage is an irrationally destructive choice to make
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:25 PM
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Depends when she decides. Yes you can still divorce her even if she decides at recent mom phase, like there are no laws preventing it, but shitty experience that would be
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:23 PM
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I'm a simple man. Wet dick feels good. Investing more than others have for wet dick feels bad. Choice is clear. Optimize to fullest legally permissible extent. Thanks liberation 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:22 PM
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The evidence is irrelevant. There's no provision in law for that. All that matters is she stayed home So make it so none of this matters, by not marrying Problem solved. All these mental gymnastics to try to force feed alternative ways to make the marital shit sandwich palatable are just the yelping cries of the resource extraction virus that persists in the fairer sex
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:21 PM
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Just have children but not marry. Problem solved You know where you can shove your false choices strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:20 PM
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Just have children but not marry. Problem solved You know where you can shove your false choices strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:20 PM
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Awwwyeee
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:19 PM
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Yet you don't believe marriage is a mistake🤔 Lol resource extraction is hardwired and ingrained like a virus in the fairer sex
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:19 PM
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Someone's gotta feed the kid lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:18 PM
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I don't want to be forced into it. No one should want to be forced into things. Ok, it's hypocritical, throw me in hyPocrIsy jAiL 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:17 PM
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To talk about what is best. I don't recall holding you hostage forcing you to engage with the post
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:15 PM
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Yet if need not (aside from child support), as 40% of births and over half of millennial births are (only patriarchal Utah is less than 20%). Thanks liberation! For guys the choice is clear
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:15 PM
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No need to marry to have kids anymore. 40% of births are out of wedlock, over half of millennial births. Only patriarchal Utah is less than 20% You know where you can shove your strawman lmao toxic mindset No u
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:14 PM
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Enforcing even a valid prenup costs bucks
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:14 PM
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No doubt it is a shitty experience to divorce a new mother. Just don't marry and you won't have to leave her for this reason
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:13 PM
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People flooded by hormones making irrational destructive choices, might as well lay out the landscape, which of course includes society doesn’t even shame those that cohabitate while unwed. Doesn't even shame having kids while unwed, as 40% of births and over half of millennial births are (only patriarchal Utah is less than 20%)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:12 PM
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Sure 🤷‍♂️either way they'll be better off moving towards acting in a way they don't perceived as nice
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:11 PM
1

This all assumes that no one changes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:10 PM
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You get the society you pay for
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:10 PM
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unless they tell someone. There can always be a trail for how things get to people. Otherwise the dark web items receipt etc. would be perfectly indecetible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:09 PM
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I mean divorcing someone at such a vulnerable time seems like a scenario best avoided
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:09 PM
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Lol wut the only person it sucks for if anyone is them, but no one is stopping them
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:08 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 10:08 PM
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He kinda is though... Lol yeah by making the mistake of marriage, he is in fact doing so, when he could've had all the same benefits without kinda doing that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:51 PM
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hundreds of thousands still take the plunge. Far fewer than ever before And even so, if everyone jumps off of a bridge ... Well it's not quite accurate to put it that way because the institution has also changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:49 PM
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Why even risk it Lol no one in their right mind will say "woman staying home to care for baby" is financial abuse because regardless of all this fake equality nonsense blather there is still something that is triggered in the heart of even the most cynical sadist which recognizes that there is something right and good and just about a baby and a mother being together
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:49 PM
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Things rarely go as planned It's fine to hide behind this for women because they are the lower earner in 2/3 of marriages and divorce laws disproportionately favor the lower earner. Yes I understand you're on the minority side of things
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:40 PM
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But you’re on the hook for child support even if you’re not married and you leave her, or she leaves you for that matter. I know, but it's far better to be on the hook for just that Maybe some women will be happy to have and raise your child and be totally ok with being left with nothing if the relationship ends, but that’s about as likely as a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. 40% of US births are out of wedlock. Over half of millennial births. Only patriarchal Utah is less than 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:37 PM
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Regardless of how it is framed, it is a thing that does happen, so the whole "marry an equal earner" isn't quite what it appears to be
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:36 PM
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Well no marital earnings belong to both of you, and financial abuse is starting to be recognized as a form of DV to a certain extent. So yeah, divorce. But far better to not have married in the first place so you don't have to leave the mother of your children at such a vulnerable stage
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:31 PM
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The exploiters are getting restless
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:29 PM
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Yeah but far simpler to just not marry at all. Even enforcing a valid prenup might cost bucks. No marriage, no need. Child support will be a thing regardless of marriage, so it won’t help there if things go wrong. That is true. But at least it's just that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:18 PM
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If you get a divorce and you make about same income you won’t lose. Whole point is that woman can change her mind even if equal earners at marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:16 PM
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Yeah so don't be nice problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:16 PM
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The ones for whom it's not an available choice, well, there's nothing to choose. The one for whom it is an available choice, it's a destructive and unnecessary one
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:16 PM
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look at bill gates 🤣That's how good they are at being evil...they're able to convince you they're good.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:09 PM
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Well no shit lol, but that is the discussion. And the ones who go forward, well they're in the throes of being flooded with fleeting hormonal chemicals. Not exactly rational decision making. but naturally the exploiter class wants to minimize all this to keep the grubby benefits flowing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:08 PM
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You can just have an LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:08 PM
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Fair enough. And they do so without a requirement of publicly holding each other out as husband and wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:07 PM
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If you are a guy had the misfortune of having chosen a wife who didn't feel that way, well, why not just avoid that possibility by not marrying. You can get all the upside without the downside
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:05 PM
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Attachment and bonding as well. It's a thing that happens that women change their minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:03 PM
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Very few jurisdictions in the US recognize any kind of common law whatsoever and of those they all require holding each other out publicly as husband and wife
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:02 PM
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Niceness for its own sake is for losers and suckers Not to be confused with niceness for a purpose But then you've got people who claim their niceness isn't adequately rewarded Well ok Stop being nice
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:01 PM
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What need is there for more options? You can have sex, companionship, and even children without marrying. Thanks liberation!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:59 PM
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People who speak with vanity don't know how a mortar shell can randomly crash into there living room Be more humble or suffer a shorter life span This is babble. Elites are psychos who are highly intelligent and it sounds like you don't know how psycho or intelligent they are What're you so afraid of
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:58 PM
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Lol arguably lessens the blow, maybe, but still they're minor children
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:58 PM
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American legal system track record in dealing with fathers divorcing new mothers due to breaking agreements over their career strategies. There's no statistics on it to my knowledge, the law just doesn't have provisions for it to be taken into account in the way that you are mistakenly representing. Regardless, it can all be avoided by simply not marrying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:54 PM
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Well that is the discussion we are having. You can have sex, companionship, even kids, without marrying (thanks liberation!)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:50 PM
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Well yeah, and that tells you, this is the society and what it incentivizes. So follow it. What choice is there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:48 PM
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Still better to do all the stuff but just don't marry. That way, no need to make such a choice as choosing between divorcing mother of child who just gave birth or risking paying through the nose upon divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:48 PM
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No u
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:46 PM
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Only one of them can take the track lol if wife in the flood of post birth hormones wants to renege and stay home, can't be like "nah I wanna stay home to" because you know kid's gotta eat So then what? Yeah divorce wife who has just given birth. Or, you know, avoid this whole mess altogether by not marrying
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:45 PM
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We're all on the menu Speak for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:43 PM
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The law provides benefit to the lower earner at divorce. And as to marry equal earners, we are back to even if she earns as much as you are marriage she can always change her mind and work less later, so better be ready to divorce her at childbirth if she changes her mind and contravenes the agreement she'd keep working Or you know just avoid all that by not marrying in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:42 PM
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They get rooked into marriage based on the temporary flood of fleeting hormonal chemicals when it is objectively a terrible idea whose benefits such as they are can be had in other less destructive ways
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:41 PM
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Yes, you can divorce, and your claim that an agreement was broken can be put forth. You need to have evidence of it, however, which can be provided by testimony from witnesses, correspondence with your partner, both verbal and written, and thing like purchases and proof of employment decisions Clearly you are not a lawyer. The law doesn't care why she stayed home. It cares that she did. “Daddy Track” is the male version of the “mommy track”, because I’m not going to call a man a “mommy” The poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:40 PM
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Monkdom and martyrdom, there are those it works for, just as there are some people genetically suited to survive on minimal oxygen in the Himalayas For the materially inclined, might as well A. Own it and B. Maximize it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:39 PM
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used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:38 PM
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You stated But almost weekly there's a thread about someone saying there is no reason to get married. I think it's the mgtows looking for validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:37 PM
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Which direction
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:37 PM
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I see it pretty often lol If the mother (or father) spent time gone raising kids then they should be compensated for that or it should at least be considered. Ok, but if you just don't marry then you wont have said compensation exacted on you against your will and/or agreement
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:37 PM
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Lol of course the least charitable explanation, not "maybe people flooded with hormones might avert making a terrible mistake by seeing non-normative perspective offered"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:36 PM
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But if it's initiated contrary to prior agreement, the only thing the man can do is divorce immediately (e.g., wife has just given birth). Lol you can't have both mommy and daddy track because they have a lifestyle to maintain, kids are expensive, etc, someone has to bring in money
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:34 PM
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You don't have to marry someone to raise kids with them. Over 40% of births are out of wedlock, and over half of millennial births. Only patriarchal Utah is less than 20%. Thanks liberation!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:33 PM
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I mean that's just an example it's the gist
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:32 PM
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Benefits that the law acords to the lower earner in divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:31 PM
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Lol why
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:31 PM
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Nothing feels better than getting what you want. Nothing feels worse than other people getting what they want at your expense. All the self delusion in the world can't change that. To each their own I guess...some are just born to be at the table and others are born to be on the menu
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:30 PM
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I did, and you answered, and I offered my perspective on said answer (it's most certainly not just you who provides this response) So what gives? If "anyone can do whatever they want" is true of every ppd topic, why is it disproportionately brought up in the context of marriage? I'm telling you in general it's gotta be the marrieds need constant "you're a good boy/girl" pats on the back
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:29 PM
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If the woman takes the mommy track, it is what it is at that point. Primary custody etc. are post separation issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:26 PM
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Secondly, if you don't want to get married, than don't. No you don't have to, Lol never fails that this comment comes up when marriage is discussed on ppd, it's surprising seeing it from a mod though, since this is the truth about literally every topic that's discussed on ppd (everyone is free to do what they want!), yet here we all are eagerly discussing the topics year in and year out it's almost like married people need a constant diet of positive affirmation about their decision to keep them…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:25 PM
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They don't have to be
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:21 PM
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Well I would put it as do whatever maximizes your outcome, owing nothing more than following the law
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:20 PM
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When effort is rewarded you get into a flow state. When it isn't you become discouraged. memory is affected by context
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:19 PM
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Am I?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:19 PM
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Wet dick is wet dick. The more the merrier
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:08 PM
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Interesting apparently being "worthless to society" is quite profitable lmao No one is stopping you from being a martyr sacrificing for NOTHING
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:04 PM
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Lol said every mediocre ever
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:02 PM
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Yeah it's a shame that indoctrination time to undo it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:02 PM
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People who have to be nice to be happy are weak and spineless. That is why they are mediocre after all and not at the top
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:02 PM
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Mediocrity is a poison 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:01 PM
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The rich also have those things, but without the fake martyrdom
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:01 PM
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But we are talking about effort. When effort is rewarded it feels like just existing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:00 PM
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Nah you get one life get yours ASAP you owe following legal obligations and not one iota more Those who rule us know this all too well
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:54 PM
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Yeah but it's like just gotta stop being nice
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:53 PM
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Enjoy your high horse while those who rule benefit precisely from your martyrdom 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:53 PM
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I'm sorry but I have to say it's because of cowardice. Being nice is "easy". It's "comfortable"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:33 PM
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Those who rule us understand all too well: Niceness for its own sake is for losers and suckers
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:31 PM
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No one owes anyone anything. Follow the law, nothing more. Those who rule us understand all too well: Niceness for its own sake is for losers and suckers
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:28 PM
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No one owes anyone anything. Follow the law, nothing more. Those who rule us understand all too well: Niceness for its own sake is for losers and suckers
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:28 PM
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But also, no one owes anyone anything. Follow the law, nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:27 PM
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Why? Skydaddy? No one owes anyone anything. Follow the law, nothing more. Those who rule us understand all too well: Niceness for its own sake is for losers and suckers
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:26 PM
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Whatever works, works. No one owes anyone anything other than following their obligations under the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:17 PM
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Yep just stop being nice
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:16 PM
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Thus don't even try virtue. Just stop being nice. Get yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:16 PM
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Yeah so they should just stop being nice Don't like that drug dealers get laid more Start slangin, pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:15 PM
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Yeah so they should just stop being nice
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:14 PM
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Yeah lol just stop being nice
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:13 PM
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Or just like, stop being nice lol problem solved
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:08 PM
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Because most of us are told differently all our lives If you live in America and are under the age of 40 I don't know how you can say this with a straight face. The shamelessness epidemic is real
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:08 PM
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Nevertheless the effort/payout ratio is always going to be higher for women than men. Women run this comparison also...some of them see that other women have it easier on the effort/payout ratio, and even though these women have it easier than men on said ratio, they don't care. They see prettier women get their gain easier and do things like "I'm a radical feminist now no more leg shaving" 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:42 PM
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Lmao how convenient. You see, women are the lower earner ~70% of the time, and the laws of divorce favor the lower earner. So a guy whose OpinIonS hAve chAngEd can choose between paying through the nose and being called a cheater, while the girl can just divorce, get her pussy filled and get the payout. It's funny how invisible this privilege is to its holders. I hope they enjoy it while it lasts This worthless hookerbeggar party won't lost forever
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:37 PM
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How convenient right they just "happened to fall out of love" 🤣the same kind of plausible deniability used by mob bosses and arrested streethookers alike. Is what it is 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:31 PM
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It depends as what matters is the perception of it, for example, the same exact job will feel like a lot less effort if you're guaranteed $1,000,000 versus if you're gambling at a 50-50 of obtaining $1
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:28 PM
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Women gained quality of life because of technological advancements. They wanted equality because they no longer needed to be so insulated from reality. Worthless petulant beggars they are now, at least the middle class ones
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:27 PM
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Last guys finish nice obligatory radicalizing the romanceless If you’re smart, don’t drink much, stay out of fights, display a friendly personality, and have no criminal history – then you are the population most at risk of being miserable and alone. “At risk” doesn’t mean “for sure”, any more than every single smoker gets lung cancer and every single nonsmoker lives to a ripe old age – but your odds get worse. In other words, everything that “nice guys” complain of is pretty darned accurate. Bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:23 PM
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You mean exist lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:22 PM
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Faking a lifetime commitment just long enough to extract your vig and then divorce is just as immoral, it's just that one benefits women and the other benefits men The one that benefits women is seen as perfectly acceptable and the one that benefits men is seen as horrific
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:19 PM
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Society benefits from whatever benefits men. As you can see, when a society is geared toward benefitting women, it does not even generate enough children to continue to exist as a society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:19 PM
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That seems unlikely
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:12 PM
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Hope she sees this bro
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:11 PM
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Women are even more baldly hypocritical in pursuing their self interest but attacking men who do so than society has enabled. It has become an assumption like air.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:11 PM
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More like you haven't actually lowered your standards It's not actually possible to genuinely do so. You just have whatever standards you have
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:10 PM
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You are circularly defining what benefits women as prosocial and then claiming that such acts are prosocial. Such grossly nakedly hypocritical selfishness that is visible upon first read should be imprisonable
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:09 PM
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Lol new pussy is new pussy, hence either/or. And sure there's a matching component to it. So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:07 PM
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Divorce is available at any time for no reason or any reason. Commitment that is short of lifetime is a scam solely for women's benefit
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:06 PM
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Yeah there is no doubt that divorcing as soon as you've gotten what you came for is now "normal" but what you were talking about is what is UnForTunaTe, which it certainly is, thus Simmer down, pal. No u
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:05 PM
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Yeah women's long con strategy of grubbily, greedily extracting their vig through commitment for exactly as long as beneficial to them is way more VirTuOuS 🤣 Don't get it twisted just because this sick hypocritical society condones only women nakedly pursuing their imperatives doesn't mean that has operated to alter morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:03 PM
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Not her but commitment is for chaste women. Everything else is a fake, cheap simulacrum that men talk themselves into because of globohomo indoctrination
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:01 PM
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Yeah women's long con strategy of grubbily, greedily extracting their vig through commitment for exactly as long as beneficial to them is way more mOrAl 🤣 Don't get it twisted just because this sick hypocritical society condones only women nakedly pursuing their imperatives doesn't mean that has operated to alter morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:00 PM
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Yeah women's long con strategy of grubbily, greedily extracting their vig through commitment for exactly as long as beneficial to them is way more ForTuNatE 🤣 Don't get it twisted just because this sick hypocritical society condones only women nakedly pursuing their imperatives doesn't mean that has operated to alter morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:59 PM
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Where did I say their denial proves it is true
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:51 PM
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The indignation is fake because it is grounded in a deliberate misconstruance. that isn't the same as "everything is fake".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:51 PM
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That's an easy one either discard immediately or fuck other girls while "waiting"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:48 PM
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Nope nope nope because that's the core of the globohomo feminist ideology that everyone gleefully adheres to. You can start on your fake indignation when the balance shifts again lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:19 PM
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…while paying child support every month. Not for much longer will this grave injustice last, since abortion will be banned 🍻
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:18 PM
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As Chappelle put it If she can kill the motherfucker I can at least abandon it Both, or neither
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:17 PM
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Shit maybe I should just start catfishing dudes for money and if they complain I can tell them "I don't owe you a girlfriend". Lol hence is the divorce industrial complex whereby women commit exactly as long as necessary to maximize their bribe. regardless, yeah, you should, it wouldn't even be worse than what is already perfectly legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:17 PM
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If you tell someone "you bought Pepsi because sexy lady was advertising it" they're gonna be like "nah brah I'm not some chump it just tastes good"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:15 PM
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I know what women are, so you can spare me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:14 PM
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Who cares dick got wet and self preserved for next dick wetting
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:58 AM
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Lol a proverb like that in every culture
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:37 AM
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And thus you are subordinate to him right? Yeah, that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:30 AM
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The people who rule us depend on the masses having exactly this kind of false imprisoning slave morality
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:29 AM
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This argument isn’t usually directed towards women because situations they find themselves in more often than not, have solutions Then you would think women wouldn't whine like homeless beggars about being pumped and dumped
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:27 AM
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They absolutely can. Ain't no laws against it* Don't like it? BEG your legislator to make it a crime *Consult your legal advisor
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:26 AM
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Can't have it both ways. either men and women are equal, or women are subordinate and men are superior. it's as hilarious as it is laughable that women want to attribute to men all the downsides of being leaders and none of the authority. It's ok, be as delusional as you want IT WONT FUCKING HAPPEN
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:25 AM
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No u
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:22 AM
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You don't think you could do just a bit more and still fall short of giving commitment to someone? That's liberation. Don't like it? Fine bring back patriarchy and go back to the kitchen. Can't have it both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:22 AM
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So then why the fake confusion about different men wanting different things
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:21 AM
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Second is applicable to the first No one owes anyone anything other than following the law Ain't no laws against telling some girl "oh sure I'm interested in a relationship...with the right girl", dumping a load in her and deleting her number.* Don't like it? BEG your legislator to make it a crime. Till then wet dick is wet dick *Consult your legal advisor
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:20 AM
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No one owes anyone anything other than following the law If you have to lie to get pussy you’re a coward. Ain't no laws against telling some girl "oh sure I'm interested in a relationship...with the right girl", dumping a load in her and deleting her number.* Don't like it? BEG your legislator to make it a crime. Till then wet dick is wet dick *Consult your legal advisor
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:19 AM
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What's that now whining about whining
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:17 AM
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Fuck morals those are for losers and suckers Those who rule us understand this all too well Follow your legal obligations, nothing more. Ain't no laws against telling some girl "oh sure I'm interested in a relationship...with the right girl", dumping a load in her and deleting her number.* Don't like it? BEG your legislator to make it a crime. *Consult your legal advisor
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:16 AM
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By the very narrative of the actual oppressors only the oppressors can be called out, and therefore TRP is consistent in that regard with the oppressors' own logic
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:13 AM
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Nah, lying to get laid is just pathetic in any form. How men view it is irrelevant to how women view it, and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:11 AM
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That's why you rent. Why buy what you can't own 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:06 AM
1

I’d like to take this opportunity to let anyone reading this who lives in a place like Texas (or anywhere else): If you are in a place where abortion is illegal, or just don’t have a ride, the money, access for whatever reason, go to aidaccess.org and they will send you the pills in the mail for whatever amount you can afford (even if it’s nothing). If you need further help beyond that, DM me and I will point you in the right direction. There are resources out there. You are not alone. But make …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:02 AM
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U
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:00 AM
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Fake what
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:00 AM
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Difference being is that society already operates on "sexism is only sexism when against women" because of muh fake oppression narrative. Paradoxically it is by that very narrative that TRPs inconsistency is far more justifiable (it is ok for the oppressed to be hypocritical after all because muh oppression)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:00 AM
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without any hostility shouldn’t the man have to suffer some consequence in some way too Spare me
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:57 AM
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That's the paradox. You gotta treat em lean to keep em keen. Of course no one will agree to this when it is described that way because it operates subconsciously.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:29 AM
2

It's unreal right
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:27 AM
1

Yeah yeah enjoy your sanctimony when abortions are banned 🤣🍻
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:25 AM
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And don't forget that vasectomies are literally one of the most efficient ways of preventing pregnancy, but very few men have them. (They're reversible with high success rates, especially within 5 years. Cool no problem with coming abortion ban women can just get their tubes tied. Vasectomies are also not reliably reversible
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:24 AM
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That's exactly what's happening. You get the society you pay for. Might as well enjoy it as best as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:46 AM
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What's the difference? I mean probably it's because we all now participate in a universal marketplace (same as with jobs etc), but regardless of why, it is what it is
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:46 AM
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Congruence As Chappelle put it If she can kill the motherfucker I can at least abandon it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:24 AM
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because I want to be feminine and do all that traditional stuff. Seems reasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:23 AM
1

I don’t like weak people Demanding it, yet it makes sense if you're abiding by your gender role. Many, many women are like traditionalism for thee but not for me. Men too, no doubt, but I don't date men, so not my issue
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:14 AM
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Are you willing to play your gender role while demanding it?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 03:07 AM
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No one likes to see how the sausage is made
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 02:55 AM
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Lol sexism: relevant when convenient
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 02:55 AM
0

True. It's pretty disgraceful
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 02:39 AM
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I was saying like Sugaring sites, videotape it and call it porn, etc. Travel I guess is another option. I believe it's decriminalized in New York.* *Consult your legal advisor
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 02:32 AM
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Opt outs, or ban abortion
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 02:30 AM
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Sugaring sites, videotape it and call it porn, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 02:22 AM
5

So knowing the full reality of it why not just pay hookers
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 02:01 AM
1

Certainly am. of course, that won't happen with the abortion ban party, but it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:59 AM
0

That's what I thought
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:58 AM
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Well looks like abortion ban is the one that's gonna happen it Fuck you gonna do about it cry more
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:27 AM
2

Gotta treat em lean to keep em keen
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:21 AM
2

🥁
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:15 AM
1

Lol for what purpose
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 01:00 AM
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Exactly people are as weak as they are stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:59 AM
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The ones who supported abortion ban are for there being more children
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:58 AM
1

How's that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:56 AM
11

Settling is misery for everyone involved, settler and especially settlee
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:50 AM
1

Oh cool no problem with coming abortion ban women can just shove dildos in their holes See how fucking idiotic you sound when it's turned around
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:48 AM
1

Oh sure in comfortable western democracy kid will make it to adulthood so what's the big deal anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:48 AM
0

Warmwethole is warmwethole
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:45 AM
2

Sounds like it goes both ways
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:39 AM
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If the woman wants to be a mother and keep her baby the only incentive to have a baby with a man like that is money. However money isn’t worth the risk of completely losing their child for some women in that situation, which is why they’ll pick the thug. He’s predictable and she gets to keep the baby. If they were that aware and calculating, I'd imagine they'd be in a different situation. 4D chess regarding future custody disputes with richer guy 🤣talk about lies
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:38 AM
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So you’re one of those that think men have no sexual agency and no ability to discern or decide who they will/won’t give their sperm to. It's not agency or not agency. It's desire to empty the balls, and so wherever there is a place to dump the load, it will be dumped. Cry more about it I don't really care.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:34 AM
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Men fuck what's available. I don't think that is some kind of insult to men. I don't think maleness is an insult. I don't think men and women being different, and the ways in which they are different, is insulting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:28 AM
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Other than rape, sex happens only with whom and when women want it to happen. In places where abortion is available and permissible, child isn't born unless woman wants it to be born.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:21 AM
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Once the supreme court overturns roe, that will open the door for a federal ban, which the republicans will pass the next time they control the government
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:20 AM
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Opt outs, or ban abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:19 AM
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Right bans don't completely stop the behavior that's true of any law otherwise there would be no need for police, jails, etc. Either there should be opt outs, or abortion should be banned
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:05 AM
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That seems more like taking issue with an explanation of how we got to this point. Regardless of how we got to this point, we are at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:05 AM
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Opt out of parenthood. Not opt out and ban abortion. Opt out or ban abortion. How's it congruent? As Dave Chappelle put it "if she can kill the motherfucker I can abandon it"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:04 AM
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Yeah pretty much
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 12:03 AM
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I want that either there should be an opt out, or abortion should be banned Why? Congruence.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 11:41 PM
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Opt outs, or ban abortion
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 11:36 PM
1

U
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 11:25 PM
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It was literally answering what you said
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 11:20 PM
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Ok 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 11:20 PM
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Yall (talking about men now) underestimate abortions Oh good thing abortion will be banned soon won't have to be faced with such difficulties anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 11:16 PM
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I think this summarizes it well Most interviewees place a high value on children, seeing motherhood as a rare positive social role they can fulfill, albeit slightly earlier than envisioned. Many mothers retrospectively credit their children as sources of validation, purpose, connection and order, which have improved their lives despite the hardships motherhood entailed. Edin and Kefalas maintain a sympathetic but objective academic tone, and manages to portray such women as rational actors with …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 11:13 PM
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Whether children are born and by whom they are sired are a woman's sole, sovereign choice. Rather than whataboutism why not make your own post about men lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 11:09 PM
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Except where abortion is illegal, so they don’t have a sole, sovereign choice. Yes, leaving those places where it is legal Additional: when women choose not to have sex and children, PPD men lose their fucking minds. Right who could forget that the only options are to have children with deadbeats or not at all
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 11:08 PM
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Whether children are born and by whom they are sired are a woman's sole, sovereign choice
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 11:03 PM
4

Millie Acevedo bore her first child before the age of 16 and dropped out of high school to care for her newborn. Now 27, she is the unmarried mother of three and is raising her kids in one of Philadelphia's poorest neighborhoods. Would she and her children be better off if she had waited to have them and had married their father first? Why do so many poor American youth like Millie continue to have children before they can afford to take care of them? Over a span of five years, sociologists Kath…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 11:00 PM
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You know where the block button is. Otherwise, this is a public forum
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 10:45 PM
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To men..."dance puppets dance" To women...(exist) you go grrrrl slayyyy kweeeen anyone who tells you to improve is a muhsogynist
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 10:38 PM
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about ~30% of men "incels" on online dating apps (the quoted terms do not have anything to do with ideology and are simply using the literal definitions of "involuntarily celibate"). • Men from the 30th to 90th percentile will most likely still struggle to get solid amounts of female attention, but end up having a wide array of areas to improve on (looks, warmth of personality, earnings potential, etc.). It's a brutal game for them, but there is light at the end of the tunnel! What's really the …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 10:33 PM
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if anything this are LESS emancipated now than they were in the 80-90s when i was young, in like 10000 ways How so
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 06:44 PM
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I can make a post for you if you want. Come along afterthought
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 05:34 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 05:38 AM
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