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Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
85	"Be strong for those that need it" a masculinity the left needs but refuses.	masculinity	Adduly	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	10/12/24 05:53 PM

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0	"Be strong for those that need it" a masculinity the left needs but refuses. The message wasn't that this is who you should be. But we need to make men who value being strong and masculine welcome on the left. We need to be clear those traits can have value in the left. That we shouldn't blame men for shifting right, but the left for pushing them away	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	10/12/24 11:09 PM
-1	"Be strong for those that need it" a masculinity the left needs but refuses. My point was that we shouldn't reject men because they value strength and masculinity. Those are not incompatible with the left. My Criticism is with the left for making men feel unwelcome. Not for men for turning to the right after they were rejected.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	10/12/24 10:59 PM
2	"Be strong for those that need it" a masculinity the left needs but refuses. I agree. My message is that strength and masculinity can be good for the community. That we need to be clear that being those things shouldn't mean you are rejected from the community. Right now men feel that they aren't welcome in the community. And so they turn to Tate who tells them that it's good to be strong and masculine but tells them to use to be an island of one.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	10/12/24 10:27 PM
2	"Be strong for those that need it" a masculinity the left needs but refuses. I think that's a miswriting rather than a statistical error. Following the graph The gender gap for 2020: 32-15 = 17% gap In 2024: 18- (-13) = 32% gender gap. I think they miswrote the first 2024 when they meant 2020	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	10/12/24 10:22 PM
1	"Be strong for those that need it" a masculinity the left needs but refuses. Yes 1000% yes. That's a much better way of putting it and describes what I was aiming for. Also to add that being strong isn't required, but if you can be strong, be so for others.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	10/12/24 10:15 PM
1	"Be strong for those that need it" a masculinity the left needs but refuses. Not in those words. But they are buying a philosophy of life that all that matters is maximising their own wealth and power. That women shouldn't have bodily autonomy. That things were better in the 50s because men were men, women were women and that minorities are ruining the country. This isn't intended as a philosophy for all. The message was that we need to get better at telling young men who value masculinity and strength they those ideas aren't incompatable with left ideals. That the likes…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	10/12/24 10:14 PM
1	"Be strong for those that need it" a masculinity the left needs but refuses. https://www.americansurveycenter.org/newsletter/2024-election-edition-young-men-swing-toward-trump/ There was a 14% point shift in 29yo≥ male voters from the 2022 mid terms. A 28% shift right since 2020	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	10/12/24 10:06 PM
2	"Be strong for those that need it" a masculinity the left needs but refuses. I hardly ever hear interviews with feminists, where the first question they would get, would be "how do you define femininity?", "what does being feminine mean to you?". Yet that's where most debates about men start and where they end, whereas real, everyday problems of men remain untouched. I think your points here are actually connected. Interviews with feminist focus on other things that seem more tangible because women aren't facing a crisis of identity. They're facing crises of bodily auton…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	10/12/24 09:45 PM
0	"Be strong for those that need it" a masculinity the left needs but refuses. I honestly feel you. And I agree. I could have done better with my wording. My message wasn't that this is something to which all men should strive. It was a) that those who value strength and masculinity shouldn't feel that their only place is the right. Those traits fit very well in the left too. Thinking of others is not weakness. b) i want meaning that being strong and self sacrificing isn't a requirement of men. But a social version of each according to their ability to those according to t…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	10/12/24 09:33 PM
2	"Be strong for those that need it" a masculinity the left needs but refuses. I do agree. I tried to include it in my post but clearly from the replies did that poorly. I wanted to include that its not weakness but strength to know your own limits. I also wrote it badly as if it's meant to apply to all those who identify as male. However my intention was that we should give men who value strength and masculinity the message that those traits aren't incompatible with the left, but welcome.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	10/12/24 09:10 PM
1	"Be strong for those that need it" a masculinity the left needs but refuses. I'll hold my hand up that I worded it as if it should apply to all men. That was my failing. My intended message was for those who value strength and masculinity, those things are far from incompatible with the left. I by no means believe that it's an ideal to which all those who identify as male should strive.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	10/12/24 09:05 PM
1	"Be strong for those that need it" a masculinity the left needs but refuses. The left just defines “those who need it” as women exclusively and call you a misogynist if you disagree. Fuck that. I will stand with my brothers who are cast aside by modernity and you should too. Those who need it can and absolutely does include men who feel abandoned. Just because there are those on the left who define it very exclusively doesn't mean that you have to. My post is that strength and masculinity aren't incompatible with the left. Ava I strongly believe that the right won't help…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	10/12/24 09:03 PM
3	"Be strong for those that need it" a masculinity the left needs but refuses. You do make good points. I will think deeply on them. I realise too that my post reads as a "one size fits all" philosophy of masculinity when no such thing can exist. Nuance is hard to balance with brevity 😅 especially when it comes to slogan like catchy titles. My message is intended for men who are looking for their place in the world that value strength and masculinity. That they are actually compatible with the left. That the alt-right isn't the only place that values those traits. I did tr…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	10/12/24 08:55 PM
0	"Be strong for those that need it" a masculinity the left needs but refuses. I should be clear that I believe this is very far the only thing that men should be. A "one size fits all" philosophy for men. My message was intended to be for young men that are looking for purpose. That working and fighting for the good of others isn't a weak or "cucked" thing to be. That isn't the only thing a man is and doing those things isn't conditional for being a man. It's hard to balance being concise and still getting a complex message across. I fell short here	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	10/12/24 08:43 PM
1	"Be strong for those that need it" a masculinity the left needs but refuses. Nah thanks. I want to be challenged on this idea that's being going round my head for the last few weeks	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	10/12/24 08:33 PM
5	"Be strong for those that need it" a masculinity the left needs but refuses. I'm not saying this can or should apply to everyone who identifies as male. That's very important. But for young males, who are looking for their purpose in the world, who value strength and masculinity, we need to make it clear that those aren't inherently opposed to equality and left ideals.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	10/12/24 08:32 PM
5	"Be strong for those that need it" a masculinity the left needs but refuses. And that's ok. Admitting when your ground down, rather than posturing is a strong thing to do. Give you self a hug 🫂	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	10/12/24 08:27 PM
-1	"Be strong for those that need it" a masculinity the left needs but refuses. this is counter productive, we should reject (the enforcement of) gender roles, defining ''masculinity'' is pointless, You're right in part and following your point masculinity isn't the right way to frame it. I do however hold that the message to "be strong for those that need help" doesn't just apply to men. A broader definition of strength too outside simple physicality, which includes the ability to be vulnerable is not just for men either. However, young men are the ones who need to hear th…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	10/12/24 08:22 PM
0	"Be strong for those that need it" a masculinity the left needs but refuses. Being masculine or fighting isn't the same as being a soldier. But you do raise a good point. And that's something that needs to be made clear to young men who are looking for their meaning. Fighting for those who are hurting includes things like fighting for LGBTQ+ rights. Racial equality. And fighting doesn't just mean brawling, hurting or physicality. Advocacy, allyship and supporting political movements that support those in need come under the banner of fighting for equality.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	10/12/24 07:58 PM
8	"Be strong for those that need it" a masculinity the left needs but refuses. Maybe I worded it wrong, but I see them shifting right as a symptom not a cause My issue is that so many young men are buying the a shallow, isolating form of masculinity. Young men are looking for meaning, for purpose and the only ones selling it are the likes of Tate. Its right that they are looking for purpose. I'm not blaming them for voting the way they did. Who I blame is the left for failing to reach out to young men, hearing their concerns and failing to provide a an alternative that app…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	10/12/24 07:50 PM
6	"Be strong for those that need it" a masculinity the left needs but refuses. I do get your point. Im interested in how you would reframe it. But my respone would be that self sacrifice isn't the same as disposability. I'd say that being a nurse is a job of self sacrifice which doesn't mean disposable. EMS and Fire rescue too. You work hard, with long hours and it's often thankless and sadly poorly paid. But people still do that job because its a calling. You do it for the good of others.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	10/12/24 07:44 PM
-13	"Be strong for those that need it" a masculinity the left needs but refuses. Strength is not the same as being a soldier. As i said, its got a much wider meaning. It takes strength to be vulnerable for example.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	10/12/24 07:39 PM