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I can’t give you specific advice without knowing certain details about your life. What are you promising me if I hive you all the details you want to know?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 04:15 AM
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Paying. You pay someone to fake relationship with you. I already tried that. It didn't work. Who? Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 04:15 AM
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Read and act according to her body language and her literal language. Don't touch her. Don't say anything demeaning, sexual, or invasive. Men do that and still get accused of harassment. And you will not accused of harassment and certainly not imprisoned for it lol Are you promising to pay my bail? Are you promising to be my lawyer?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 04:14 AM
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You're not giving me anything better, so that's on you. ARE YOU SERIOUSLY OKAY WITH MEN SUICIDING???
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 04:09 AM
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No matter how much a man insists he was simply "engaging in speech," that won't save him from accusations of harassment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 04:08 AM
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That being single is absolutely nowhere comparable to being constantly raped. Then I guess you need to expand your mind. The same could have been said of water boarding, but water boarding is torture none the less.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 04:07 AM
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Are you a virgin? No. Do you have friends? Maybe? HOW IS ME ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS GOING TO HELP ME GET WHAT I WANT? Also where did you move? Sorry, what is this all leading to? Will you be giving me a name at the end? If not, why should I answer your questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 04:05 AM
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How old are you? Back half of my 30s. How do you look like? Normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 03:53 AM
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And the daily award for the biggest leap goes to this comment Do you have any disagreement with what I wrote? No Circlejerking
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 03:53 AM
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I have experienced being single by circumstances rather than choice, and as painful as it is, it's not comparable to rape. In those brief periods, sure. You have no say over how other people experience the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 03:38 AM
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Explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 03:37 AM
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We have a big bowl of complimentary M&Ms in the lobby. I bet that sweetens the deal for you. If that's your attitude then I can just suicide tonight.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 03:36 AM
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This may be why you couldn't make friends when you responded to me previously. That isn't me, I was quoting women on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 03:35 AM
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Being single is as bad as rape. Ok drama queen. I never said "as bad." If it's okay to say being single is no big deal, then why isn't it also okay to say being raped is no big deal? PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN 'BIG DEAL' AND 'NOT A BIG DEAL.'
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 03:34 AM
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Life coach, dating coach and therapy I already looked into those, and they won't help! To the extent that anyone says they're one of those things, it's obviously a grift. If you can’t afford it that’s not anyone else’s problem but your own. But what does that mean? If you're washing your hands of it, then you have no right to contest someone suiciding because of their problem. idk, you figure it out. "Okay, my solution is suicide." You: no, not that!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 03:30 AM
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The analogy is sound. Please explain any issue you have with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 03:27 AM
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Ah yes, being single and being raped, two similar kinds of pain. Maybe, if you could experience how painful it is to be single, you could understand how painful it is to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 03:26 AM
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Nobody wants to help a crybaby bitch. my apologies. How do am I supposed to appropriately ask for help without being a "crybaby bitch"? There are teenagers getting girlfriends and you are telling me you have done eveyrthing and still can't? gtfo. It wouldn't be legal for me to fuck a teenager, younger than 28. Buy a dog. Are you saying fucking dogs is a substitute for fucking women?!?! WTF, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 03:21 AM
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Why are you tryna harass women bro lol I'm not, but if you're telling men to keep trying and trying, no excuses, then harassing women is inevitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 03:19 AM
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My fee as a consultant starts at $500/hr. Unless you're willing to pay that, I will give no further advice. What are you offering? That's a pretty shitty sales pitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 03:18 AM
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Equivalent, no, but if we're to accept what women say about men needing to accept having shitty lives as valid, then it's just as valid to say that accepting a life of constant rape is okay. Who are you to say that being single is no big deal? You'd be just as valid as telling someone that rape is no big deal. That's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 03:17 AM
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I got out of the house and interacted with people. I also did that. They didn't like me. I tried to be nice, and be the kind of person they'd want to interact with. They still didn't like me. Now I'm a creepy swinger. Dreams do come true. DM me info for women for me to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 02:59 AM
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Ah yes, being single and being raped, two similar kinds of pain. I never said they were literally the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 02:55 AM
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If you’re suicidal due to a lack of gf, you aren’t mentally healthy. Not really, it's just a matter of going without for long enough. I have a healthy response to a toxic world. You might as well say if you're suicidal from being raped every day, you aren't mentally healthy. Like, wtf, bro? You could try immigrating. I already tried that, and it didn't work. Tell me, immigrate where? Who is the woman I'll meet there? I need specifics, otherwise, you aren't giving me anything useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 02:55 AM
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Pay a matchmaker Who??? I already looked for one and there aren't any legitimate ones. "Waste money on a scam," is that what you're telling me? Please, tell me: which ones are the legitimate matchmakers?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 02:52 AM
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No, I get that. I'm already there. I tried myself and it didn't work, so now I need help. What about that do you not understand? Or, are you telling me to die?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 02:50 AM
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Telling a man to consider a life without a relationship to be a life worth living is no different than telling a woman to consider a life filled with rape a life worth living. Of course, neither are really a life worth living, yet, it's considered okay to tell a man to accept a life without a relationship, but not okay to tell a woman to accept a life filled with rape. Just deal with it, I don't care about you. If it's okay to say that about men who can't get relationships, then it's okay to say…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 02:47 AM
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find other things that make life worth iving. But I already have things I want, that make life worth living. "Find other things" isn't acceptable for anyone else, so why should I have to accept it? "Just consider whatever you have to be enough to make life worth living" is a race to the bottom. Hey, if we're going along with your proposal, why not not consider rape a good thing? Just blah, blah change what makes life worth living, right? Of course, that's disgusting, and telling me to stop wanti…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 02:42 AM
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More than the zero. And “swipes” don’t count After zero, how many are needed until it becomes reasonable to stop trying?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 02:37 AM
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I haven't seen a single woman matching that description for days. Excuses bro If you promise to pay my bail after I get arrested for harassing women, sure, I'll be more than happy to ask a lot more women out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 02:36 AM
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Video games and internet porn disappear. 80% of dating issues for young men go poof. There aren't any woman who want the men who have to resort to bowing out and trying to occupy their time with video games and porn. If you take away video games and porn those men will still be rejected by all women. The only difference is that they'll be more ornery.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 02:26 AM
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Some of the dudes here need to feel the sting so they know it won’t kill them. Please, most men are fully aware. But they are too afraid of the rejection so they make up excuses not to try. How much rejection is needed until it becomes reasonable to stop trying?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 02:22 AM
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How many of you guys that fear a harsh/mean rejection have actually received one? It's never like that, never a big blow up. Usually, it's a thing where the communications becomes one sided, and then it becomes stupid to keep trying. And, yes, it sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 02:14 AM
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Who is going to help men who need help finding a girlfriend? Say a man has done everything right according to BP'ers, but it still doesn't work out. Doing it on his own isn't cutting it, and now he needs help. Suppose he's been single for so long that it has now become urgent. When you have a broken arm you can go to an ER. What is the ER for men who need help finding a girlfriend? An actual ER isn't going to help a man find a girlfriend: Imagine "hi, it's an emergency, I need you to find a girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 02:05 AM
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You could try your luck with dating coaches I already looked into that. Just like matchmakers, they're all grifters. but if you have suicidal thoughts you need therapy. To the extent that I have suicidal thoughts, the cause is lack of a girlfriend. Therapy won't get me a girlfriend, so why how is therapy going to help me? I know: they'll just make it harder for me to suicide if I do want to do that. They won't help me get what I want, they'll just make sure I'll suffer.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 01:56 AM
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You should seek professional help Yes, that is what I'm asking for. What professional help will help me actually find a girlfriend? That's what I want. I don't want "mental health care," because those people won't help me get what I want. All they'll do to "help" me is take away my ability to end my life on my own terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 01:21 AM
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In society, living my life, earth
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 06:37 PM
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They all tell me they don't want me, so why should I want to be here when I don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 10:29 AM
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Are there any dating agencies maybe? No. Realistically I don’t think others can find you a partner if you can’t do it yourself. Then I don't think anyone can legitimately tell me that I have to continue to engage with society, whether that mean something like "MGTOW" or anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 07:39 PM
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That's not an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 07:24 PM
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But if they don't really exist as far as you know, then why suggest it? You're suggesting something that doesn't exist. I have already looked, by the way. What little I did find was obviously a scam.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 07:13 PM
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Then why suggest matchmakes in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 07:08 PM
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They'll find you one bacause they think you'd be a good BF. You wrote that, and I asked how I can make that happen, and then you said you had no idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:27 PM
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Then why suggest it? I do treat people well, but still, nothing. I need help.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:49 PM
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I already tried that. I need specific people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:49 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:42 AM
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Who? Where? Matchmakes don't exist, as far as I can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:42 AM
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How do I make that happen then?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:42 AM
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Where do I find one?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:41 AM
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How? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:41 AM
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That's what I've been doing, but it doesn't work, so now I need help
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:41 AM
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I don't know, I just know what I need
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:41 AM
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I need help
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 01:40 AM
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What level of emergency does it have to be to convince someone to find a girlfriend for me? Who is that someone to find a girlfriend for me, by the way? Like, do I have to say I'm going to kill myself if they don't find me a girlfriend? Do I just have to say I'm really, really sad? What do I have to do to convince someone to find a girlfriend for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 11:04 PM
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How is that Virtue signalling? They're saying they need an emotional connection in order to also have physical attraction, not saying they're attracted to the connection itself. Because they think it makes them look more sophisticated than crude, animal-like, "physical" attraction. Its just something men scream here because they think it upsets women to read it. No, and taking on a victim mentality like that is very unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 02:25 PM
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that comment wasn't for you, it was for lillith
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 08:17 AM
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All the women who go "I can only be attracted to a man if we have a deep emotional connection" are just virtue signaling, trying to put themselves above everyone else. It's just bad faith LYING, since they only go down that path with men they find physically attractive. Next time, ask them "if your husband transitioned to being a woman, would anything change?"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 06:53 AM
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The solution isn't forcing or pressuring people to date but having better retirement and elderly care options. But that's expensive, so probably won't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 02:34 PM
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So sex is not good value, but if she doesnt instantly give sex to men then she’s automatically valueless. What? That doesn't make sense. Insert the whole post again. That's your whole response to my comment? Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 11:45 PM
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They don't even have coherent questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 11:31 PM
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You're not important enough to get "salty" over, even if you said anything worthwhile, which you didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 11:27 PM
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Not scared, you just ignore the answers and then bring up different BS, so it's just not worth engaging with you very much
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 11:13 PM
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I'm an optimist, but you consistently disappoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 11:11 PM
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You really have to wonder how sad and pathetic the lives of the women and BP'ers on here are, for them to come in and make nonsense comments, "argue," with RP'ers here. At least the RP'ers make coherent arguments based in reality. But then these women come in and make comments which are obviously in bad faith and it's like: how sad is your life? Especially the ones who claim to be in a relationship, you have to wonder how awful that relationship is for them to take time away from that to come he…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 11:04 PM
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You're right. No point engaging if you can't answer a simple question. I just did, can you read? All in all, nice try but i don't think this scare tactic will get your dick wet. lol, not a scare tactic, but I didn't write my original comment to get laid anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 10:49 PM
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It's a simple question. If you can't answer it then you don't have a point to make. Too simple, and the fact that you asked means that you won't accept the answer that "women want more than what they earn" so there's not much point to engaging with you. But having her own invome. One person living off one income doesn't end up poorer than two people livong off two incomes. Way too much to unpack there ... you do understand people earn different incomes, right? lol, But setting that aside, yes, c…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 10:43 PM
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I'm not
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 09:44 PM
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not even funny
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 09:30 PM
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So if we all agree that women earn their own money, what's the point in mentioning that they can't rely on men's money? You're making a straw man argument. Again, why would that cause them to have less retirement savings? Being unable to draw from a husband's savings, and income throughout life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 09:28 PM
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that rant also makes no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 09:24 PM
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People often turn to OLD because they have a hard time meeting people irl organically. Yeah, that's why I hate the "of course OLD is trash, you should meet people IRL!" crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 08:59 PM
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That doesn't make any sense
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 08:46 PM
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I never said they couldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 08:44 PM
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Why woukd male sexlessness lead to women having less retirement savings? They wouldn't be able to rely on the savings of men, since men won't be pairing up with them long term, since by the time women are ready to "settle down" they're no longer interested in doing that with those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 08:15 PM
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guys actually start meeting/dating/coming to grips with who they really are and stop comparing life to influencers/celebrities/rich/Chad and then finding thief own path to happiness or contentment. They're already doing that, and sure, will continue to. How that plays out is that in a few decades, it will be "why are there so many fuck-boys and where are the good men?" Well, they've made best with what they've been given, and being a "fuck-boy" is better for them than marrying women who never wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 08:03 PM
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The sudden rise of online dating in the last few decades will make it worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 07:49 PM
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Yeah, they very well could be saving more, but it still might not be enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 07:45 PM
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I seriously doubt those are solutions everyone will be happy with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 07:40 PM
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All this translates to is: You should feel obliged to fuck men but never expect men to give a damn about you. Nope, not at all, more like: If you aren't offering a good value proposition, don't be surprised if he isn't interested. This is true at the outset and over time. You'll be better off if you focus on self improvement rather than on being a victim. Why should women care about men’s “sexual needs” when men dont care about women as people? You go wrong in assuming the "when men dont care ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 07:25 PM
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Yes, which is why I don't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:14 PM
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Over time most dudes will figure it out while a small group will get more isolated and stay online and a new batch of young people will come. Just like before. What does "figure it out" mean? The now older women still think they can do better than these men, just like they thought they could decades before. Even if these women now wanted these men, what makes you think these men are still interested? Maybe as FWB, hence the "where are all the good men?" Notice the “pills” are 10 years old but th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:13 PM
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I think a lot of people would be upset if others just said "I don't care" about the problems they care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 06:03 PM
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Unless prostitution becomes a lot cheaper it isn't really any kind of solution, but that's kind of unrelated to what I'm talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 05:58 PM
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They're okay with being single for now. Or, at least, they say they're okay with it, even if they aren't, really. In their 20s and 30s, "single" means going on dates (often paid for by men) and sex outside of marriage if/when the mood strikes them. When these women get into their 40s, 50s, and 60s, I think they might change. Women in their 20s and 30s are conditioned to believe that they'll be able to find a great man to marry and start a family with ... pretty much any time they're ready. My th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 05:57 PM
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Alone, yes, but there are many moving parts. Reddit comments isn't a great place for me to make a comprehensive argument. However, since women, on average, live longer, they'd need to save for retirement at higher rates than men, and I don't think that's the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 05:52 PM
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I'd nit pick on "the social value of sex" part, not sure what you mean there. Men don't really have sex in order to brag about it, it isn't about sex somehow making them higher status. Mostly, men have sex for it's own sake. They do it because they enjoy the activity, period. If the proposition is that the sex would be secret, that no one beyond him and the woman he's having sex with would know it happened, that would be fine for most men. Women tend to view friendship and sex as a binary choice…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 05:50 PM
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Most men are simply below average or unattractive. No, it's that the average man is evaluated as not attractive. It reflect more on the unreasonable standards women have, rather than men not doing enough to be attractive. It's no different than claiming that media or pornography lead men to have unreasonable standards for women. The only difference is that women have a greater tendency to do it themselves, or at least, it hasn't gotten as much attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 05:35 PM
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Over time, the "male sexlessness problem" will become the Where are all the good men? problem, then Why aren't women having enough babies? problem, then Why are women lagging behind men in retirement savings? problem, then How are we going to care for poor, elderly, single women? problem. So, if you don't care about the male sexlessness problem you are being short sighted. It only looks like it only affects men because we're only at the first part of it, and that's setting aside how problematic …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 05:31 PM
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sure bud, whatever you say
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:57 PM
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You do need to have good social skills to be able to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:57 PM
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If you need a long time to develop emotional security with someone, you either need to get better at choosing people, or you need therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:51 PM
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You're probably just not doing it right.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:50 PM
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I have healthy boundaries, I'm just good at connecting with people. You might want to try therapy if you aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:40 PM
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No, I just have decent social skills, I know how to have interesting conversations and really get to know a person. It isn't that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:39 PM
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sounds like you have poor social skills
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:39 PM
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sounds like you have poor social skills
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:38 PM
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pasta for breakfast is fine
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:38 PM
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Lol I have no issues connecting with people, Apparently, you need a long time to be able to connect to people, so I'd say you do have issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:33 PM
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Do you really want someone you can pull a fast one on to be the father of your children? Do you really want your children to be taken advantage of?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:32 PM
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If you can't build a deep emotional connection with someone after about an hour or two, you probably have poor social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:28 PM
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both
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:27 PM
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Clearly that's not the depth of connection I need in order to enjoy sex. I don't see why not. Maybe you're not good at connecting with people?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:26 PM
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Also, why can't you also fuck the guy your dating? Again, you're getting more of what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:26 PM
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Why are you dating a fool, then? Why would you want a relationship with a fool?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:24 PM
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It's not that hard to build a connection over, say, one hour.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:23 PM
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Q1: just vetting and building desire normally. Getting to know someone. But you like sex. And you could have more of it. Why don't you want more of a good thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:22 PM
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Q4W: If you like sex then aren't you just making yourself worse when you make a man you're dating wait for sex? You're missing out on something you like doing. If you had sex with him earlier then you would have done more things you enjoy. If you don't like sex, then why date in the first place? It would make more sense to find another sex-hating woman like you and marry them, maybe use a sperm donor if you want bio-kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:12 PM
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The second part might not be true, but unless you make yourself a more attractive long term partner, no amount of making anyone wait for sex will help. Plus, why wait for sex when sex is good and fun? If you hate sex so much, then just have platonic friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:59 PM
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Then I should have phrased it differently, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:58 PM
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You're confusing unknown vs. fantasy. There's potential until you learn more information, that's why you don't propose marriage on the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:28 PM
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It's more like going from unknown to known.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:46 PM
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It's really effective at getting rid of the guys you want too!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:45 PM
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Be Civil/No Personal Attacks
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:13 PM
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chad would commit if she were good enough, and he can't tell until he gets to know her well
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 06:13 PM
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Hey women: he didn't lie to you to get sex. He really did want to be in a relationship with the person he thought you were. Then he got to know you better, and you showed him you aren't a good person to be in a relationship with. Stop blaming men for your own shortcomings. You just weren't a good enough person for him to want to be in a relationship with you. Trust me, men will stick around for a woman if she's worth the effort. You turned out to not be worth the effort. When you say men lie for…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:51 PM
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Most people have a chance No, where's your evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:44 PM
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Then what’s up with guys claiming they were “played”? I have no idea, I don't know who those people are, I am not them. You should ask them if you want an answer, not me. That’s a big fat lie. So we can just say people are lying now? Fine: women are lying when they say they were raped. Why do you think it's okay to call rape victims liars? That's really fucked up, you shouldn't call rape victims liars. He might think he wants more than pussy, but if he’s getting mad that he cant get instant puss…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:43 PM
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No, they don't have a chance, that's the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 07:15 AM
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Right, so "he just wants sex" is more like "he's taking what he can get for now."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:13 AM
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You understand that people can want more than one thing at the same time, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 04:32 AM
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That makes no sense. You understand that people can want more than one thing at the same time, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 04:09 AM
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It isn't. They probably say they'd can enjoy casual sex, not ONLY casual sex. Big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 04:04 AM
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I don't think they claim that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 03:47 AM
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that makes no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 03:33 AM
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I want a relationship and sex more than just sex, as do most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 03:25 AM
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eh, look through my comment history, you'll find some.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 11:38 PM
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Lol, no. If you aren’t into casual, casual isn’t better than nothing. Well, yeah, I already said open to it, into it, but not exclusively. The important part is that a man doesn't only want casual sex and nothing else. and some will even lie about it. What are these lies? They have zero intentions to have long-term relationships, they just want to fuck. That is not most men, it's just a paranoid delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 11:37 PM
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Many, many women on PPD think that any man who expresses interest in casual sex is only interested in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 10:24 PM
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Women and BP'ers: just because a man is open to the possibility of sex outside of an exclusive relationship doesn't mean he only wants that and nothing else. In this comment, "casual sex" = "sex outside of an exclusive relationship" This is more realistic: he want a good LTR, but since that can be hard to find, takes time, and might not ever happen, you might as well have what fun you can today. Casual sex with a woman tells you at least that part of the relationship would be good, and is a good…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 10:17 PM
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Cmv: Average men want average-below average women to broaden their standard to include them but those men don’t have real intentions on dating those women. Where did you get the idea that they have no intentions to actually date those women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 10:05 PM
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sex is better than nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 10:00 PM
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Me: Did you tell her upfront that you just wanted to fuck? That's a quick way to get rejected by every woman, including those open for casual sex. No man just wants to fuck, even if he's open to the idea of casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 09:57 PM
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Doubtful, and unfalsifiable, so no. It's kind of hard to put in the time if every woman rejects you, won't give you the time of day, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 09:15 PM
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Well, I'm not here to try to be as nice as possible. I prioritize debating over trying to be nice. You're not getting my standard IRL interaction, so your "evidence" is biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 09:10 PM
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Eh, if I do you'll just insist the example doesn't show that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 09:04 PM
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Manosphere/Red pill male YouTubers Those people are fringe weirdos that most men have never heard of.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 09:04 PM
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All it takes to establish that connection is to not be a piece of shit and put in the time for them. False. If that were the case many men would be much, much more successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 09:03 PM
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I'm not upset, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 08:24 PM
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the premise is that she's very worried, because she's moaning that it's so bad. anyway, it's the example I had on hand, though maybe not the best example.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 08:15 PM
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Religious men have an easier time finding relationships, not even limited to "tradcon" women. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_United_States In 2020: Atheist (5%) Agnostic (6%) Unanswered (1%) At most, you have about 12% who are "non-religious." Most religious people are going to want to marry a person with their same religion, and they won't be very flexible about that. If adhering to their religion wasn't very important to them, then they wouldn't be religious in the first place. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:44 PM
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and you are saying it like "HE SAID HE LOVER HER AND SHE BELIEVED IT HAHA SHE SO STUPID" like........? I'm not saying that, it's the "sour grapes" women who are, and yes, they probably aren't ok. I'm okay though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:19 PM
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I gave you evidence, see the linked comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:18 PM
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Yup, and if you dare to bring it up, they act like you accused them of murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 05:36 PM
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I don't care what you think. The fact is, the rule doesn't apply to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 05:35 PM
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What you’re saying literally makes no sense. What do you think I'm saying, and which part doesn't make sense? Yes many people of both genders are only interested in having sex inside a committed relationship, what is wrong with that. No, they just understand that, given their current situation, they're unlikely to find the kind of a person they'd want more than only sex with. Women aren’t upset that he changed his mind, they’re upset that he obviously lied. It feels "obvious" to them because the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 05:34 PM
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Yes, see yesterday's chat thread, go through my comment history, or in many places on this sub. Here's a comment by a woman who worries or worried about being pumped and dumped: https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/zmfosh/daily_community_chat_megathread/j0g8es2/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 05:22 PM
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If the guy is deliberately lying saying he wants a ltr with the only objective to have sex, then yeah, that's stupid and also pretty coward. Even if the man was lying, the woman only has herself to blame. If you only had sex with a dude because he told you he wants a LTR, he loves you, he wants to be with you for a long time, etc.: you are stupid for using that information to decide who to have sex with and you are the only one responsible for your regret when he breaks up with you later. Divorc…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 05:06 PM
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Women: I'm only attracted to a man if we've spent a lot of time together, established a deep emotional connection, and we are passionately in love. Also women: All it takes is being hygienic and not being a piece of shit. It's literally that easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:43 PM
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All it takes is being hygienic and not being a piece of shit. It's literally that easy. No, that's not all it takes, but if you really think it is: I meet your criteria, so set me up with one of your single female friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:40 PM
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It's funny how the rule "No "Woe-is-Me" posting" never applies to the women complaining about being "pumped and dumped"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:32 PM
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Literally just go for coffee for a first date. That's what I prefer to do, but a lot of women consider suggesting that an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:31 PM
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I did all those things and it didn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:30 PM
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I think it's only vague and abstract to you? No one else on the planet seems to be remotely confused about what love is. I'm confused about your definition, not the definition in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:29 PM
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I find it rather concerning that you push so hard for casual I don't, you're just desperate to find something to criticize me for, so you mischaracterize what I say. something that you’re clearly interested yourself. I, and a lot of other men, are able to enjoy sex with people without making them jump through insane hoops. It's almost as if I like doing fun, enjoyable activities with others. Pretty crazy, right? And yes, for women struggling with finding a man who isn’t into casual waiting is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:28 PM
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I get it, women who choose to have sex because they believe they're entitled to ... something ... make bad personal decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:21 PM
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That's so cute that you think you've actually said anything. romantic love: a type of love in which intimacy and passion are prominent features. Then how do you test for that? All you've done is replace a vague term with other(s). You're not even close to being right. No! YOU'RE wrong! Whaaaaaaannn! You seem to really struggle understanding the nuances of human emotion. I don't, it's just that you have nothing, so you resort to personal attacks. It's quite pathetic and unattractive behavior, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 08:32 AM
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I wouldn’t say your worthless just because no one wants to date you. Your "advice" is fucking worthless. How about you address the things I talked about, instead of trying to insult me and change the topic? Change strategies I already did that, that's how we got here, now what? What are these magical "strategies" that will get me what I want? You want to help me? Great: tell me exactly what will work. No? Then your proposal is nothing more than "keep chasing false hope until you die." Wow, what …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 08:11 AM
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IF YOU CHOSE TO HAVE CONSENTUAL SEX YOU WERE NOT USED, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR CHOOSING TO HAVE SEX. Unless you're willing to admit that you used him for sex, you're just being childish, and that's a very unattractive look. Ok the first thing you need to understand is that most men engage in sexually coercive and aggressive behaviour. This is basically impossible to avoid when dating as a women. Okay, first thing you need to know is that women lie and propagandize in order to frame things in way…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:59 AM
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It’s easy to not go to expensive places on a first date. Well, yeah, but then they balk, and then unmatch you. If she says bye then so what you dodged s bullet. The goal is to date, and dodging thousands of bullets doesn't get me any closer to legitimate dates. Men will lie to get sex. That doesn't matter. You fucked up when your decision to have sex or not depended on what they said. Both sides have shit people. Banal false equivalence. You have the power to vet and move on. So, then it really …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 07:45 AM
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Oh please. Not many women out here asking direct payments from men. Their scams are more sophisticated. hey, you seem cool, let's go on a date! how about tonight! how about dinner! this steak and seafood restaurant looks really good! Me: um, lady, I don't know you, but I'd be willing to have dinner with you as long as we both understand we'll each pay for what we order. Her: wow, you're so rude, I'm a traditional woman, byeee You know it's "not many women" ... how? You're a man dating women, rig…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:12 AM
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Incredibly easy to avoid gold diggers and women using you for money. True, but irrelevant: doing so necessarily means avoiding dates with women in general too. Throwing the baby out with the bath water is not a viable solution. It’s very difficult, borderline impossible to avoid men trying to use you for sex. No, it's very easy: make sure that you're only having sex that you (reasonably expect to) enjoy. Everyone, including men, occasionally find a dud. Figure out what needs to happen for sex to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 06:03 AM
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I'm using the definition. Then send me a fucking link, and make sure it includes rules for (practical) testing if a person is or is not in love with you. No? Then you're full of shit (which you are, hence your pathetic response in your comment directly above). You can love someone without always liking who they are. But you have to mostly like who they are. Thanks for admitting I was right in the first place, and that you were wrong for trying to argue with me. If you were to insist that liking …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 05:26 AM
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It isn’t an option for women who aren’t okay with casual. That's a choice, not a written in stone, not immutable, not as fixed as something like sexual orientation. "Casual" is always an option, women just hate taking responsibility for their behavior. What you said is the female equivalent of the inc*l who says "most women aren't an option for me, I'm only attracted to bikini models!" A man who said that would get roasted, and for what you said, you'd deserve the same ridicule. I think the best…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 05:15 AM
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are you bringing up the price of the meals you've paid for as a part of a financial discussion? No, but the money would be missing just the same. you will make the money back Jesus Christ, you're bad at economics. Will you make more money in the future? ... probably .. one would hope. "Back"? No, that money is gone forever: you gave it to the restaurant to pay for the food that woman ate, which she eventually shit out, .. but then she never called you back when you suggested going on another dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:45 AM
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then stop paying? I never was.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:23 AM
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What do you want women to do with it? Personally I wouldn’t date casually a man for the chance he commits to me. I'd never suggest anyone try, either. Rather, it makes more sense to go on the next date casually because the last one was fun. It’s either exclusive relationship or nothing. What? How do you imagine that playing out? How does it start? You go immediately from no hint of any kind of sexual/romantic aspect of whatever kind of relationship you have - if you even know him at all - to 100…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:22 AM
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I’m pretty sure you know what romantic love is. I have my definition, but I'm not the one calling relationships pointless with out it. You're the one doing that, so you've made your definition of the word important. If you're making big life decisions that turn on vague terminology ... then that's pretty fucking stupid. Why would you need a definition? I asked you for your definition, not the definition. Loving and liking someone are different. Then I guess that whole "he's fucking her, but he d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:55 AM
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Is he? I think it heavily depends on one’s age and goals, some men are just there scoring the numbers. No, that's exactly the kind of misconception that I pointed out. Practically, those men you think are "just there scoring the numbers" would absolutely "commit" to the right woman, were one available (which might not be very realistically possible, but that's irrelevant to the fact that they would if it were possible). He wants to have sex with multiple women? Not a problem: this "perfect" woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:45 AM
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i'm not going to respond to every comment you're leaving, but the vitriol you are feeling about $50 dollar meals is kind of wild. Portraying someone as "hysterical," like you've tried to do to me - just with different vocabulary - is a scummy thing to do, and ultimately self defeating. Plus, your accusation about me are just wrong. I always split the bill, so I have nothing to feel vitriol about. Obviously, it isn't about only one "$50 dollar meal," the concern is about the cumulative effect of …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:39 AM
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women do not care. no woman is asking a man how many free meals hes paid for. ... because they don't need to when it becomes a big enough issue to matter. There are many ways to guess, or just have a discussion with him, wealth. there are serious discussions here about women's n-count weekly. So? This is reddit, and most men are not having serious discussions about "n-count" with the women they date. In contrast, eventually, you'll talk about money when the relationship gets to the point where t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:18 AM
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his value does not inherently lower everytime he pays for a meal for someone else. What? He literally spends money. You understand the concept of "spend," right? You give up that money and it is no longer yours. The value of his checking account literally lowers when he pays a woman's way on "dates." there is no visceral disgust when a woman finds out you bought another woman dinner. no m-count. Irrelevant, but even if men did feel a "visceral disgust," they are responsible for their feelings, f…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:10 AM
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Both come down to the same thing: a person getting what they want using the mistaken belief that they were offering something the other wanted, and then bolted. ... and the solution to both is to abstain from covert contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:04 AM
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sure, i agree. but being pumped/dumped costs time and effort, she may not even enjoy it Going on a "date" that is nothing more than a grift costs time, effort and money. She at least get's to try to enjoy sex. When a man buys dinner for a woman on a date, she gets to eat the food, not him. That's the difference. With sex, there's no guarantee that he'll enjoy sex with her either. Anyway, if she's not willing to accept the risk that it won't be mind blowing sex, then just don't have sex in the fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:01 AM
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It costs him time and money, and it's a hit to his self esteem knowing someone only pretended to like him in order to get a free dinner. Yes, and if he spends enough money on women who eventually reject him, women will reject him for not being wealthy enough. It's just a matter of how much money he's spending on these "dates," and how many "dates" he's paying for. It adds up over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:45 AM
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but if we're following the logic of men here, each time a woman is pumped and dumped, her ncount goes up and her value decreases. When you attribute some ridiculous idea to others, of course that sounds stupid. Of course it isn't as precise as, say, your credit score decreasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:41 AM
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I have news for you, this is every woman. You completely ignored the problem of how to define "love," which is the real issue. Are you saying it's as simple as saying a few magical passwords like "I love you"? That's sufficient? I wish that worked. Any man who doesn't believe me should go home to his woman and tell her he doesn't love her. How do you think that proves anything you're talking about? You do realize that you can love someone, and at the same time, dislike several things about their…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:35 AM
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I'm responding to this comment. A man does not have to be perfect to inspire sexual attraction in me. Then you've admitted that there's at least a "bare minimum attracted" and a "more attractive than the bare minimum," which contradicts your earlier assertion that you're either attracted or not, no middle ground. You don't get to have it both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:26 AM
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How do you respond to rejection? I’m sure everyone here could learn from your enlightened ways. The amount of evidence I'd need to have, to be able to conclude to the effect "he only wanted to use me for sex," is practically impossible to ever have. So, I wouldn't do that at least. I don't feel like writing a comprehensive essay.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:23 AM
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Being in a relationship with a man who doesn't love me is pointless. Define "love." How do you measure it? What's your test to determine if he "loves" you or not? Can you magically read minds? Are you fucking Professor X? Or, is your plan to evaluate his mental state as estimated by his behavior? If there is just one minor thing that he wishes you'd do differently, does that mean he doesn't "love" you? What exactly must a man do to "prove" he still "loves" you? How much money must he spend on yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:21 AM
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No. There are lots of attractive men I don't want to have sex with. (It's annoying, believe me.) By definition, you do not consider them attractive men. I think you're using "attractive" based on what other people tell you is attractive. I'm talking about "attractive" defined as people "who I do want to fuck."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:06 AM
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It's a fundamental lack of empathy, theory of mind. If that's your go-to whenever you get rejected then you simply aren't mature enough to have adult relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:04 AM
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This isn't true. He's not having sex with her personality. He doesn't need to, he just needs to be able to, at minimum, tolerate her personality enough for it to be worthwhile to keep coming around. The world is more complicated than simple like vs. don't like of a person's personality. If he really didn't like her personality then he wouldn't spend any time with her, not even for sex. lol, does casual sex mean "literally no interaction before and after sex"? Ok, I want a guy to really like my p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 01:56 AM
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tell that to the women who hate on "men who only want to get laid."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 01:41 AM
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Sounds like you need to internalise AF/BB more. You can only want ONE thing. Everything else is settling. Are you an adult, human person? Because, you seem to not be able to understand fundamental aspects of the human experience. You've never been to a restaurant, and deliberated about what to order, because there were a few dishes that looked taste?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 01:40 AM
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Either I'm disgusted by the thought of having sex with a man or I'm not. There is no in-between. So, "good enough" and "perfect" are at the same point as you. You sound like one of those inc*ls who only wants and feels entitled to "Stacy." You might want to consider trying therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 01:37 AM
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I mean the man doesn't like her personality and doesn't have feelings for her, but wants to fuck her anyway Have you ever met a happily married couple? Even in the best case scenario there are things that one spouse does that annoy the other. No relationship is perfect, you're never going to love everything about another person. It's overly simplistic to insist that it's nothing more than like vs. don't like another person's personality; it's actually a spectrum. As for "feelings," that's just a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 01:36 AM
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How do women not understand that, for many, many men: What I want the most is a (good) serious/long-term relationship, and in the meantime, as I go through life, I can also enjoy "casual" sex, "sex without commitment." ? Wanting casual sex and wanting a LTR are not mutually exclusive. It shouldn't be hard to believe that a person can be interested in multiple things at the same time, like if there are two movies playing at the theater that you'd like to see: if your preferred one is sold out you…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 01:21 AM
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Considering how many men are into casual, I honestly doubt your claim. They're not at all mutually exclusive: in a perfect world, he'd be married to a great woman, and while he's looking for the right one, he can enjoy what "casual" sex he can get in the meantime. Hell, maybe a woman he's "casually" having sex with could turn out to be the one? You never know how relationships can develop, and to the extent the sex is enjoyable, she'd have a leg up compared to all the other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 12:56 AM
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most men are like me, but with ~8 billion people in the world, there are bound to be some outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 12:44 AM
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Men are horny enough to pursue sex with women they don't actually like Define "like." Men are attracted to them enough to be willing to have sex with them, even if they aren't "super model level" attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 12:41 AM
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No. There are men who are objectively gorgeous who I am not personally attracted to, and men who are objectively average who I am attracted to. It's not 1:1. What matters is your opinion, not the opinion of others, or whatever definition of "objectively" you're using. I think a lot of women feel like they have tons of options, and they get more attention in early adulthood, so they often tend to define baseline "attractive" at the high end.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 12:13 AM
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Why do you expect me to care? When you don't care about the wellbeing of others, you invite them to stop caring about yours, and everyone can end up losing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 11:45 PM
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I’d say I have some looks threshold, There you go, that's my point. You can make it more complicated if you want, but that part is there too. So, what if you expanded your looks threshold?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 11:18 PM
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That's literally how all decisions are made. I based my decision to deposit money in FTX on the thought that later I'd be able to withdraw it. Different kinds of decisions, choosing to have an experience vs. investing. Since you can't "make" someone stay in a relationship with you, it's very stupid to have sex for any reason beyond the enjoyment of the experience, i.e., for it's own sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 11:15 PM
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The number of women who are obsessed about not getting "used" for sex by a man not interested in "a serious relationship" is ridiculous. They talk about it like its the worst thing, and put a lot of thought into trying to avoid it. While, sure, there's probably at least one man out there "not interested in a serious relationship," the reality is, the vast, vast majority of men would love to get into a serious relationship ... for the right woman, who shares his plans for the future, etc. It's ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 11:13 PM
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I'm talking about the subjective experience of attraction, not the objective evaluation of a man's looks. We're talking about the same thing, my point stands. I don't see how your distinction changes anything I've said. In a vacuum, some of the men I've been attracted to were objectively better looking than others (taller, more symmetrical faces, etc.) ... which is your subjective evaluation of their attractiveness, so there is variation. At a certain point, some man is the least attractive one …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:50 PM
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If someone is so ugly that no woman will ever be “hell yes” about them they would have to try other means. If you listen to what women say, that describes a large proportion up to "most" men, not just the small proportion who are very ugly. What are these "other" means? I'm not aware of any, please explain in detail. I’m not gonna pretend everybody has a chance in the dating market. Your life sucks, and I don't care that it does, doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:45 PM
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Hunky men aren't my type. If I'm not in love, I don't see the point in doing things with a human being rather than a toy or part of my own body I'm not into either. How do you decide which men to consider falling in love with? Looks don't matter at all? I think you have your own definition of "hunky men," every one has their preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:42 PM
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Women's libido and attraction is not gradient. We are either attracted to a guy or we're not. I genuinely can't even imagine what "somewhat attracted" would feel like. Some women are attractive, and other women (e.g., swimsuit models) are crazy attractive. So, what you're saying is that for women, the minimum and "best" attractive are at the same point. That's pretty rich, since inc*ls are often criticized for only being interested in the most attractive women, and you're saying that women are t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:34 PM
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Also, it's doing these things in the context of harassment that's punishable, not just doing them. You need proof of intent and such too. Are you sure it has to be "in the context of harassment"? I haven't read the actual law, but it sounds like looking alone would be enough to be convicted. Intent: there are ways around that, but I'm also not a UK lawyer. In the US, behavior can be used to establish intent. If you had to literally be a mind reader, or a confession explicitly admitting to intent…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:23 PM
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But when I was single, it was mostly “eliminating” process. Based on what criteria? Are you telling me looks made no difference? That would be hard to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 10:06 PM
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Men here are convinced women are ONLY attracted to rich tall guys. Literally all? No. A large proportion of the population? yes. Sure they are nice but if you could see pics of real couples of people here, they are probably not Chads. AF/BB There was someone arguing that women can't enjoy sex with a non chad. That is ridiculous. I agree with you, but many women act as if it's true, and end up making things worse for themselves. It is true that women shouldn't have sex with men they aren't attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:51 PM
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That’s not true. Men have sex with women they have no attraction to all the time. No, the fact that they chose to have sex with the woman proves some (small?) amount of attraction. Looks don’t matter when it comes to men and sex. If their vagina works, that’s all that matters. Not at all! As a straight man, there are definitely women who are so low in the looks department that I'm not interested in sex with them. A "working vagina" isn't enough for me, and many other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:46 PM
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Women aren’t interested in having sex for the sake of it as they don’t get much out of it. You'd think those women would be open to sexually open marriages, or "marriage" with other women (minus the sex part), but usually, those are the same women who strongly reject those ideas too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:42 PM
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I don't see how that's relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:40 PM
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If you haven't seriously considered if you'd like it or not, you're probably a closeted, self hating gay person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:39 PM
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Did you ever wonder if your musings are kind of a false dilemma since no man would have sex with you anyway? No, because I have been offered. It really happened. I've also been hit on in a gay bar too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:39 PM
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There's "minimum viable" attracted, and there's variation above that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:37 PM
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What about if someone lies? If you're not having sex for it's own sake, then you only have yourself to blame if you end up regretting it later.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:36 PM
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Being pumped and dumped is no worse than being used for a free meal. Technically, that's right: being pumped and dumped is better than being used for a free meal, the latter is worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:34 PM
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Disagree. If r*pe is robbery by force, then pump n dump is fraud. No, even if the man straight up lied about his intentions, you are responsible for not being happy about the "dump" part, because you never should have based your decision (to have sex with him) on what you thought would happen later. It sucks to suck, make better choice next time. The reason they're having sex with their guy, is cause he's putting her under the impression that he has feelings for her that he doesn't have. Often t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:31 PM
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Sexual attraction either exists or it doesn’t, there isn’t “kind of attractive.” It’s yes or no. It isn't that simple. There's bare minimum "attracted enough," and above that, there are those more or less preferable. Your yes/no translates to "yes" equivalent to "attracted enough."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:14 PM
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You seem to be saying it's either a super hunky man, or resigning yourself to masturbation at home, alone, for the rest of your life. Since it's unlikely you'll catch a super hunky man, I guess it's the latter. You've self selected out of the market which ... is a choice, I guess. Why are you even here then, when you've decided you're not interested in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:13 PM
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That's consistent with what I said, just a different dimension - how long it takes - of it. If it's unrelated to how a man looks, and it's only about developing an attraction over time, then I'd say: how are you choosing which men to put time in with? Maybe you'd be better off if you were open to considering a larger pool of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:09 PM
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Maybe the sex would be good. How would you know if you never tried? You seem weirdly doubtful about the effectiveness of birth control.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:05 PM
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What do you guys think about this: https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1602595907916144640 In the UK, they want to make street sexual harassment (even more of?) a crime, punishable with jail time, to cat call, whistle, and also (and this is where it really goes too far) "staring persistently" would also be criminalized. It seems pretty ridiculous to - in a public place, in full view of anyone and everyone - make it a crime to happen to be looking in a particular direction for "too long." Lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 09:02 PM
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Yes, that was never up for debate, but fashion is a quality of personality, not physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 06:43 PM
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We’re already paying for our own steak when we go out to dinner (50/50 is so cool now), we’re encouraged to initiate and approach men (bc they’re shy and scared) Wow, that kind of entitlement is extremely unattractive. Do you seriously think basic human decency, fairness, "treat others as you want to be treated," etc. ... is an unreasonable burden? If so, you might be well served by taking a break from dating to work on yourself. Women have collectively decided that they want to be treated as eq…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 06:40 PM
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I'm a straight man. It's not a choice, it's just the way I am. There's nothing I can do to change that. I wish I could be sexually attracted to men as well as women. If I could, it would make my life a lot easier, in terms of being able to find a partner. At least, it would be a lot easier to have casual sex when the mood struck me. I'd be better off than I am now, because now, I don't really have a choice to do it if I wanted to. Everyone, at least once at some point, should consider "let's ima…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 06:16 PM
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As bad as it sounds "eeeh good enough" was how my best relationships started. It doesn't sound bad. Good enough is good enough, period, end of discussion. That there are super models, heaps of other people who are way more attractive, that doesn't take anything away from being attractive with the person you've chosen to be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 06:04 PM
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If you were "pumped and dumped" you have no grounds to have a legitimate complaint. You don't have a right to someone's time and energy after you had sex with them, just because you had sex with them. You chose to have consensual sex. If it wasn't consensual, then that's a serious crime, and you should probably do something about it. Assuming it was consensual, you only have yourself to blame for choosing to have sex based on some hope of what might happen in the future. You made bad choices, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 06:00 PM
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You can’t force a woman to be attracted to you and if it’s not a hell yes you should just move on. "Move on" doesn't address your desires, which is why you were even trying in the first place. You "move on" to the next woman, she says no, then the next, then the next, etc. ... and then eventually you run out of women available to even just try to get with. There's no guarantee that there's any woman who would ever be "hell yes," and since there are known patters of the things women are attracted…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 05:45 PM
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It would be great if women could realize that you don't have to be head over heals, omg, 1 billion percent, etc. ... you don't have to be extremely attracted to someone to enjoy sex with them. Women on here are always like "women shouldn't have to have sex with people they aren't attracted to!" Well, if you give men who are "not completely, but at least somewhat" attractive a chance, you may find that you have way more options of good men to choose from.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 05:40 PM
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if he wasn't physically attracted to her in at least some way, then he never would have had sex with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 05:36 PM
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It's a demonstration of personality, not physical attractiveness. Fashion is a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 05:35 PM
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and continue to "exist" in a relationship with you regardless of what they feel about you. They feel strongly enough to stay in the relationship, it isn't "regardless."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 02:43 AM
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These are 3-6 months old relationships, not weekly hang outs dates. That checks out; it can take about that amount of time to get to know someone at a deeper level.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 02:15 AM
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... with someone who's looks they're into. What part do you not understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 02:14 AM
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In other words, they’re willing to settle for quick and easy sex. That is the bare-bones definition of "into your looks." I don't care how "quick and easy" sex is with a dude - and I have had offers from gay dudes - because I'm a straight dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 01:26 AM
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I think they were at best so-so about you at the start, and then you did something to tip the scales in the wrong direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 01:24 AM
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The fatal flaw in this plan is that men who are prone to violence and harassment are unlikely to be dissuaded by this change. It was never intended to dissuade them, but it does make that kind of behavior easier to distinguish from "normal" trying to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 12:32 AM
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How do you know they have zero interest if they've said yes? Yes to what? A date?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 12:31 AM
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If she has been around you enough to observe you, that is an open mic to demonstrate personal qualities. "IF" being the operative word. Often, that doesn't happen. Also, with a lot of dating being through apps, looks are more and more important. A hardworking and confident guy doesn’t need a date to project confidence and competence, people just notice it if they are around him long enough. That's a "No true Scotsman" thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman "if he didn't project co…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 11:19 PM
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she doesn’t know who you are and what you can do, but you are asking for her time. Why would anyone in the right mind volunteer their time for you to ✨shine ✨. Exactly, so when the answer is "I have no time for you," then you literally have no opportunity to show your personality. Further, since physical attractiveness is relatively easy to evaluate early on, that's one of the earlier filters in the selection process, "dating." When she is not interested in paying attention to you, your personal…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 08:51 PM
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I've noticed a patterns, and it seems to be mostly women, where a commenter here "critiques" some idea with the non-critique to the effect that the idea is over-emphasized. "Critiques" in quotes because it's not much of a critique at all, because they're really saying "I agree, but I don't like it, so I have to figure out some way to say something negative about it." For example: While obviously these things can be taken to an extreme and I believe the Red Pill over exaggerates the uniformity of…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:43 PM
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Men don't "need" TRP, it's just a convenient summary of main points.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:34 PM
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From a certain point of view, I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:31 PM
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Really??? Instead of responding to anything in my comment, or trying to answer my questions, you try to change the topic by asking questions about me, personally? Whether I, personally, have "a strong personality" or not is irrelevant to the issues we're talking about. However, I'll give you the benefit of doubt and assume you're commenting in good faith. So, here's the deal: I'll answer your questions after you answer mine. If you don't provide an appropriate response, then I'll take that as yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:30 PM
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My original point is that there is a underrated route to score women, which is being a productive individual with strong personality. Your point turns on your perception of how that route is rated, and I'd say that I've already properly rated it. Is it technically possible? Sure. Is it likely to work? No, and if you don't meet the minimum physical attractiveness criteria, then it is practically impossible. If your roadblock is that somebody did not give you a chance to showcase strong personalit…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 05:56 PM
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Physical attractiveness and personality are pretty closely intertwined, though. I don't think that's accurate. Maybe in some ways there's some kind of correlation, but it's a relatively minor point, compared to everything that goes into physical attractiveness. Both are reflected in things like style choices and how you carry yourself and interact with others. "Style" and "carry yourself" is personality, rather than physical attractiveness. It can be confusing because those are things you see wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 05:39 PM
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I know, right? I makes me wonder if the people - BP'ers and women, mostly - who bend over backwards in an effort to obfuscate, are doing it with intent, or if they're drinking their own cool-aid. For completeness, one of your points should come with a footnote: unattractive + good personality = it's not gonna work Footnote: maybe we could be friends, but never more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 05:31 PM
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Does this apply to both genders in your opinion? Yes. I didn't think it necessary explicitly say that, but there you go. Any more questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 04:18 PM
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Let's be clear: you started out by saying everyone gets a chance, so saying you don't get a chance isn't a valid complaint. I said you were wrong, because there's a good number of people - exact numbers aren't necessary, but we can at least say that there are too few to care about - don't get a chance. You then conceded the point, and then followed up by saying that men shouldn't try to have casual sex because ... you think those are opposites when they aren't? I'm not exactly sure, but the exac…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 04:17 PM
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Let's go through this one more time because it seems that there are some people who still don't get it. Premise: we're talking about finding someone to have a LTR with, dating. The goal/objective, the "nice thing," we're trying to get, is a relationship that is intimate, including sexually intimate. Sure, there are other nice things in the world - ice cream! - but those things are irrelevant to the question at hand. Friends are also nice, but we're not talking about just-friends. "Friends" is no…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 04:10 PM
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If you are going to claim 80/20, then women would just ride 20% of dicks and not care about his personality because there is such a small pool already. No, that's an over simplification.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 03:37 PM
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then don’t invite a stranger to Netflix and chill! k? I don't. Stop complaining about things that never happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 03:36 PM
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Why? Every informal social interaction with a woman is an open mic. No it isn't. When men start treating every social interaction with a woman as an opportunity to date her, he gets called a "Nice Guy."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:18 AM
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80/20 is a bar for instant (arguably) attraction. That is the bar for personality to begin to matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 06:17 AM
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when you're looking for a romantic relationship, it isn't the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 10:02 PM
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R.e., the relative weight of looks vs. personality: good people you're not sexually attracted to are called friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:37 PM
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No, I don't think you understand: your personality, good or bad, won't matter unless you already pass the physical attractiveness bar. It needs to be so substantial, that you need to in fact be a good person - which is a very high bar but sounds cheesy because everyone throws it around so casually good people you're not sexually attracted to are called friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:35 PM
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that's where your analogy breaks down
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:26 PM
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“They didn’t give me a chance!” - says no stand up comedian ever, the truth is you either have it or not. By definition, a successful stand up comedian was given a chance. But, to go with your analogy, it doesn't matter how funny you are if no one will let you get on the stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:43 PM
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Personality matters AFTER looks matter, not before. To amount of personality can make up for not being physically attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:27 PM
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Individualistic ideology in the US leads many people to hyper focus on things like "mentality," and it leads them to getting it wrong many times, like this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 06:11 PM
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they’re NOT saying “make female friends so that you can convert them into sexual partners once they become comfortable around you” They're saying "stop trying to date, period."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 04:13 AM
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they want both
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/22 03:36 AM
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