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Yes, i meant first and only.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:51 AM
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One could also be unlucky, and have his first sexual partner be one of the woman like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:49 AM
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I can, because the most radical and insane takes are always the loudest. If one don't really interact with many women in real life, and only online, they could easily assume it's what most women want. Yes, such people should "touch some grass", obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:46 AM
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You can stumble uppon some women's opinion, how sex IS enjoyable only to men, and it's basically a reward (implying women don't really want to have and enjoy sex). This is obviously not true to ALL women, but i could understand the "confusion".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:39 AM
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> The "I See Average Guys in Relationships" Fallacy Just because you see "average-looking" guys in relationships doesn’t mean they are truly average. Most of these men are above average in at least one key area—status, confidence, humor, social skills, career, height, social circle, etc. You don’t see the countless invisible men who struggle silently, aren’t in social circles, and aren’t getting any matches on dating apps. Yup, this is literally survivorship bias. "Go out as see guys in relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:05 AM
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That's exactly what I'm saying. Maybe I don't know 100 people close enough to call them friends, but out of ALL my friends none are dating a friend or a friend's friend. Everybody either met on the dating app or through different means. Also, might I add, only my mad handsome male friends are in a relationship. And I mean MAD handsome
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 11:38 PM
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Yes. I have 3 main groups of friends, plus "random" people I met in some way. None of them date within the group. The groups are changing/getting bigger or smaller solely because someone brings their new partner in.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 11:17 PM
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While I agree expressing your emotions, being vulnerable and open is MAJOR turn off to women, I still am like that. With everybody (in a moderate and consensual way of course). You know why? Because it's a great way to filter real shitty people out. So far, not a lot of women passed that, which is quite funny
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 03:59 PM
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I KNOW by the thing you write, you don't know a thing 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:45 PM
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There are rules in fashion that are pretty much universal in their appeal to people. Correct. There are rules. Or rather were, because nowadays, most of the clothes you can buy in "regular" shops don't follow any rules. And they look bad. Really bad. And the one mistake that most men do is buy clothes that don't fit them well or have odd proportions. I won't say most man know how to dress properly - that would be a lie. But I see this: Women are so far beyond men when it comes to making yourself…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:36 PM
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Which is? So far you only said "dress for your body type". Which is as hollow a statement as "be attractive"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:33 PM
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How about giving some actual argument? Or are you too emotional right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 05:59 PM
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The fact, that you can't give a straight answer, but immediately go to "well you prolly dress like shit" tells me you don't have a great sense of fashion yourself You know HOW I know "dressing for your body type" is bullshit "advice"? Because I have my style. And I get compliments on it. I also get negative comments on it. I hear "you look good in it", "these pants fit you really well"; as well as "these pants are too big", "your style is not good, you look old". One's "fit for body type" trouse…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 05:51 PM
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No, because dressing for one's body type is still just a matter of opinion. It IS a hollow statement thrown around by women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 05:40 PM
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Women have been playing as male characters forever? Women have also been shaming, ridiculing and laughing at games and men playing video games forever. They weren't the target, so it's quite natural most MCs were male. I don't have any problem playing female MC, but such statements are just stupid
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/25 09:03 AM
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> It only serves to confirm our suspicions that we have little to no shot to begin with. I mean...it is no secret - you have to be attractive, to have a shot. That's...obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 10:00 AM
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I think the "ambitious women are undesirable" is more about highly career oriented girl boss CEO slay queen type of ambitious women, not just women being ambitious overall
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 11:52 PM
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By definition - yes, of course. But "embracing single life" does not mean "rejecting anything opposite-gender related". Let's say a woman claims she is embracing single life, but she still is hooking up with dudes. Did she really embrace the single life? Would she need to be celibate to embrace it? Or leading single life means using it to the fullest, including many non-commited "relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 03:31 PM
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Except, i'd argue, most women don't really embrace single life. They are still getting their opposite sex validation from social media, their own social circles etc. They KNOW they can stop being single in couple of minutes of swiping on Tinder or Hinge (yes yes, the quality blah blah). It's like rich person saying they "fully embraced being poor and are happy like that", because they know they can opt out any second they want, because there is bank full of money waiting for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 03:15 PM
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Something tells me you want to try pegging
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/01/25 09:03 AM
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Just remember, i'm talking about people online and offline. Pretty much every women i talked about sex with (believe it or not, people can talk about it) hold strictly "no eating pussy - no sex" rule, because PIV only is not enough. On top of that, some of them literally refuse to tell their partner what they like or how they like it, because "he has to work for it. He has to read body language etc and not expect straight answer". Some don't know themselves, because they never learnt their bodie…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:34 PM
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I'm describing women i talked with about it, women who talked about it on the internet and women i've been with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:58 PM
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*And the amount of women online and offline, i've heard saying they couldn't have sex with guy not eating pussy makes me believe, that - yes, most women expect oral sex to be given to them. Which, personally, i don't find problematic at all. Just hypocrytical*
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:56 PM
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Because i "think" oral is kinky, or because i said most women expect it? I don't really think oral sex is kinky, i just wanted to make point. And the amount of women online and offline, i've heard saying they couldn't have sex with guy not eating pussy makes me believe, that - yes, most women expect oral sex to be given to them. Which, personally, i don't find problematic at all. Just hypocrytical
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:33 PM
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And what if it's unusual. Guys like him are being put together with rest of the guys. Because there is this ridiculous war being waged on guys that just happened to fall in love, an innocent dude almost had to leave his social group.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:15 PM
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I LOVE foreplay and i would never skip it. It is as much for her as it is for me. Sure i am ready to go the minute i see my (hypothetical) partner, but just going straight to penetration feels like masturbation with big doll.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:18 AM
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Right. And men accept it. So again - what are the expectations and pressure being put on women here?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:52 AM
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Oh, but it is basic. Isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:33 AM
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No, you just spun the discussion and made it "men are bad", in typically blue pill fashion, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:31 AM
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IDK why people don't tell young men this, so much sexual anxiety is based on bullshit around this And that is the POINT of the post. All pressure and responsibility is being put on man's back.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:29 AM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:27 AM
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I don't have any problem with it. Some of my partners had no problem giving me bj, some didn't like it at all (according to them). BJs are not really important to me, I can live without them alright. I was talking in general. If oral is basic, then why do so many women don't want to do it AT ALL. Not with one partner, but at all. I have seen posts here or on FB and talked with various women, and not giving bj is very popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:25 AM
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No? Then i guess women are not complaining about "orgasm gap" and saying PIV rarely leads to women's orgasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:13 AM
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No? Then why so many women don't want to perform it? No matter what you think. I could say anal is not kinky, because why it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 09:28 AM
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What stuff? Being kinky? Oral sex is already something kinky, and 99% (yes, i invented the number) of women expect men to go down on them every time (and do it exactly how she wants, but she won't tell you, because you have to find out yourself, or she doesn't even know how). Anal? Not every dude wants anal. What kinks are so overtly wanted, that all women feel the immense pressure all the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 09:09 AM
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> Theres a lot of pressure on women to behave in a pornstaresque way > Not starfish, do oral and do it good Being active and performing oral is "pornstaresque"? Well shit, guess every single women DEMANDS their partner to be pornstar
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 08:57 AM
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No no, of course not every woman (or just every person).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 02:09 PM
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And this is alright. This is normal. Expecting someone to NEVER EVER have any romantic experience/feelings prior to meeting us is crazy. The point is to be chosen not because the "better" option rejected us, but because we are the one they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 01:34 PM
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if you are very happy with your Prius, and wouldn't trade it for said Camaro, if it showed up one day, fully working and all, then there is no problem here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 01:23 PM
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Of course getting angry, throwing insults and fit is stupid and childish and would lead to believe it was only about sex I, however, have seen the situation I described. The girl still got angry, even tho my friend respectfully told her everything, apologized to her and everything. She was angry, she said to their mutual friends, that she was only using her and wanted to just fuck her etc. It wasn't pretty, but fortunately not everybody believed her
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 11:47 AM
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Why not? Some people can't just shut down their feelings and continue living? If someone can, that's great! But I don't think leaving the relationship because he can't is bad. Now, I don't mean he can take it out on a girl, call her names etc. I just mean "hey, I have romantic feelings for you I can't shut down. I don't think I'll be able to remain in this friendship, where I inevitably will get hurt. " Sure it sucks, losing a friend. But it also sucks being hurt
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 11:32 AM
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Right. So his feelings changed (he fell for his friend). She rejected his feelings, so he doesn't try to change her mind, but rather leaves the relationship, because he knows HE will be getting hurt eventually. Now, if he can overcome it, shut the romantic feeling down and continue friendship as was - great! He can't? He isn't some perverted monster, who did not value the friendship. He just puts himself first.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 11:27 AM
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Like I said, you want to be the second, third, 10th "choice"? More power to you, buddy. I'd rather go for a girl who wants me, thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 10:10 AM
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Where did I say that I'm sure I won't be wanted? I just stated one of my standards regarding my dating life (which was already "used"). It would actually show that I am not insecure, because I did not accept being the second option, after her first didn't work out
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 09:44 AM
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😆 So I'm insecure because I want to be wanted? Are you some kind of martyr? You want to be the "safe option"? Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 09:03 AM
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I don't want to be "wanted at a certain point in life". I want to be wanted. Not "wait x years, so I can have fun, go wild, "enjoy" life and "find myself""
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 08:38 AM
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He already said why - because you STILL want that Camaro and are taking it out on Prius.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 08:36 AM
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You can get more info, by talking to a guy. But most of the women won't talk to the guy, unless she finds him attractive. Which is understandable and fucking normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 06:40 PM
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No, it means we have a high bar for visual in the absence of other available factors. Men see women and it’s enough. Women see men and 🤷‍♀️ unless he’s an Adonis. Yes, thank you for proving my point. I usually had other options messaging me that I felt more visually attracted to. Again, thank you for proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 06:18 PM
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I read your comments. You specifically stated, that raising standards will make women think we are more desirable and we will have more success. I proved to you that is not true (unless man is already highly desirable). Now you are deflecting the argument
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 06:16 PM
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I literally said it really isn't working (when you are hard set that it should). Way to deflect...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 06:13 PM
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As real as your stories about men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 06:00 PM
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They disappear, because y'all go after the most attractive guys, don't look at their behavior or think you are the one that will change him from fuckboi to committed boyfriend and then cry when fuckboi does fuckboi things. It's like going after an apparent gold digger IG baddie and acting surprised she requires money and lavish lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 05:42 PM
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That’s not how any of this works my dude. I don’t know when men will get it through their thick skulls that a huge reason for why women are not attracted to them to begin with is because of the neediness and desperation that they exude. It’s nothing rocket science. We give off vibes through our body language, how we carry ourselves and how we communicate. That's not how it works also. Sure some guy might be overly needy, but then, he'll usually just end up friend zoned. Being more selective, mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 05:39 PM
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So women don't give a chance to a guy, because he is not attractive enough to pass the bar of looks and have a chance to showcase his other traits. Which means he was rejected due to looks. Which means women are as visual as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 05:29 PM
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No, i'm sure i wrote "being loved" correctly
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 02:31 PM
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It was a joke I know how poly works. I also heard way too many stories about poly being a gate for women to have many partners, while dude has practically none
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:40 PM
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Which rarely works. Unless the dude is a total slob "dress better and shower more" won't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 12:16 PM
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I was told way to much i'm too short, to not believe, generally, women prefer taller men. Not every single woman that ever lived on earth, nor every women prefering taller men will instantly reject shorter, but still. Some will turn a blind eye and date shorter guy, some will say his x (personality, humor, job, face - whatever) makes up for his short statue (which is shitty thing to say)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 11:13 AM
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> poly sex dorks does not exclude > don't have any sex at all Only women is poly and getting sex. The dude is just watching
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 08:59 AM
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The men will always say yes, just to try to utilize the chance of finally being loved
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 08:32 AM
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Fella is getting redpilled, weird
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 08:28 AM
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So the dude is raising his standards. Now he ignores the one girl that sent him some kind of signal and is going after the ones, who will reject him. Congratulations, he is still a virgin, no relationship experience (so big red flag the older he gets). But he has high standards!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 08:28 AM
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You can put "it depends" everywhere and poof - no sub. Actually, no discussion anywhere, because "it all depends"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 08:21 AM
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No woman is socially obligated to wear makeup and revealing clothes. What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 08:20 AM
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I used to be openly friendly with everybody (no, i was not creepy), but enough times my friendliness was mistaken for hitting on. Right now i tend to be less friendly (not as mean or rude - rather positively neutral) with female strangers (total strangers or women i just met/know very little). I have female friends i know i can be friendly with, with no problems. It's not that i'm terrified every women will suddenly scream "rape" and i'll be thrown into jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 02:17 PM
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I spent my childhood playing on the streets too, my friend's group, albeit small, was diverse. But nowadays, after all the "don't approach" heard online and in real life - i just don't. Unless i'm introduced by mutual friend, i don't interact with female strangers at all. And even then, i keep it brief and distanced, unless she makes first move (be it romantic or just being friendly)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 02:12 PM
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Right, but men don't owe women friendship, so it's irrelevant what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 01:51 PM
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Beside some amateur stuff, every male actor is hung like a horse (most due to plastic surgery) so she would have to look for some "random" couple, to not be exposed to 30 cm dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 10:42 AM
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Obviously anything illegal. Also anything involving an ex. Other than that - have fun with your 10 hour transgender midget gangbang porn
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 10:37 AM
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But it's not always "choosing one over the other". If man have problems because of porn (ED, lack of sex drive, watching it over having actual sex) - sure. But if he is into some things his partner is not, or they can't see each other very often - then it's different story
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 12:48 PM
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riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.....
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 12:46 PM
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The only time i've heard someone has favorite porn star was either a joke, or the case of some niche kink (so not a lot of actresses were doing it). I don't have any preferable visual traits in women, beside them not being fat (and i'm not talking about super skinny either - just don't be obese), so when i'm in the mood for some biology content, i'll just fire up whatever catches my eye. Now, i understand that some women might get insecure, if i watch, let's say, asian actress, or black or whate…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 11:53 AM
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I don't watch porn in a relationship, but as long as it wouldn't interfere with our relationship in any negative way, i wouldn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 11:29 AM
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Because men are taught their worth is based on their marital status (among other things, like career, usefullnes etc). Because of that, they think being in bad relationship is still better than being single and will put up with more negatives, to keep the women happy. It is not, of course, strictly black and white, but it is like that in general. I see many women, who learned that (either through their parents relationship or their own), and see man having standards, deal breakers or just his ow…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 10:01 AM
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I would agree that women are dominant, but disagree that men are submissive - by nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 09:19 AM
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Guess i am not attractive enough then :V
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 09:04 AM
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In my previous relationship (in which I was miserable, but didn't know that - as stupid as it's sound), my ex gf pretty much dictated what we are going to do in a free time (but I had to guess it, because it's obviously men's job to entertain and plan, but if I guessed wrong she was angry the whole day), what we will eat (we cooked together, but I had to cook what she wanted, and If we were going out, we had to go out where she wanted). She was telling me what to wear (meaning she would bring me…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 08:59 AM
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Why should I force myself to go to a place I don't like to meet people engaging in something I don't like? That's stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 08:11 PM
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I understand the general idea, but I think the only thing you should be worrying about is - are you satisfied? If, let's say, lack of oral sex is a deal breaker for you, just break up. No matter if your partner did it in the past or not - she doesn't want to do it now, and you can't (or at least shouldn't) force her to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:58 PM
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I don't feel comfortable in nightclubs, so it would be quite hard to do that, even being drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:54 PM
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I'm not one for hookups tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:52 PM
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Swing dancing (mainly Lindy Hop and Rock n Roll, a bit of Charleston, Balboa and blues). I also tried a bit of salsa, but had to choose one or the other "full time". And as for the venues, we have this huge swing community in our city, where I know tons of people. The rests (like salsa) are occasional summer time parties. I tried going to some mainstream nightclubs, but the music is horrible, people are drunk and violent...not my climate
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:20 PM
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These horrible men's fantasies about being attractive to women!! Why are you instantly matched lust with doing porn? My ex gf was not doing porn (at least I didn't know anything about it), and she still gave "fuck me" eyes to a dude she met for the first time (no, not me 😆). My friends gf too. My female friends told me about such instances also. I'm not saying every single woman is like that, but also not every man is like that, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 12:29 PM
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I know there will be a lot of guys who think there’s nothing they’re good at, or what they are good at is not attractive to women. Ironically, I like dancing. And I'm good at it. I know I'm good, because I've heard a few times, from girls from our community, I'm one of their favorite dancing partners. And you know what? This doesn't mean shit. Girls from dances either don't think I'm attractive enough/don't want to date at all, and girls I've met in other ways don't like dancing (or my dance in …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:16 AM
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Other than conditioning boys and men to suppress their feelings, and still, generally, upholding make gender norms, I don't think there is anything super specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 01:26 AM
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Men expect women to lust like men and women don’t so men get disappointed and think women don’t like them because women don’t lust like a man. They very much do. The men just need to be handsome enough
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 12:55 AM
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Cool. So use it and live the life how you see it. I don't know how happy other's relationships are, I only know what I personally lived, seen and experienced, that's it. What are you trying to accomplish here? For people to say "ah yes, women don't really like handsome, well earning and strong men"? That whole red pill is a useless lie, because everybody should just "be themselves"? Yes, people are different, but most people (most women) are not THAT different. Molding yourself to their liking w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 12:46 AM
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No. They did not. A school is not a community. It's a place, at best. Even tho they were living in the same town, they merely knew the other one existed. No name, before said party
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 12:03 AM
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And I like using personal experience, because I am a person, not a data number in some scientific approach, and people I observe and talk to are...well people. If I see enough people doing one thing, I'll live by it, simple. If I'd have witnessed tens of girls living their "chad boyfriends" for shy nerds I'd probably live by it too. But I did not witness such a thing. I don't blame anybody for anything, tho. Life is a game, and you either play your cards accordingly, or be me 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 12:02 AM
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I'm not comparing myself to my grandparents; I compare myself to my parents, although I try not to. I won't say that you are wrong, because socializing does increase (albeit not a lot, it seems) the chances. But, from what I've seen and heard, women don't really want to be approached romantically at all. And before you say "build up normal relationships, build chemistry" - they also don't like, when a friend catches feelings. I joined the dancing community about 3 years ago. My main reason was t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 11:37 PM
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You just said so, tho
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 10:52 PM
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So are you saying promiscuous women actually ARE NOT suitable for long term, healthy relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 10:43 PM
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Honestly? I've seen way too many girls "attracted to shy/nerdy/fat/short/etc boys, who don't like conventionaly attractive/handsome guys", reacting in literally one specific way, when such attractive guy shows up, to believe people are THIS different. Even IF she truly doesn't mind a guy who is in the first group, she'd still want the second guy. I've lived it, I've seen it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 11:36 AM
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Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:26 AM
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Sure, but in this case the "20%" are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 11:18 PM
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I did bite mine practically whole teenage years. Once I stopped, they started to grow like crazy 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 08:25 PM
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Men don't have to collectively agree though. Each man that looksmaxes ups his chance at getting a decent GF, simple. Right, one dude doing everything there is possible, to be the best version if himself and somehow getting a girlfriend is not exactly "fixing dating market". Just curious, how would the bar be raised in a way that still hurts the average man? If all men would suddenly become 10, the 10 would become new "average" and then, they'd have go even beyond that. I could also see it hurtin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 08:16 PM
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Damn, I'd like to see that 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 08:08 PM
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I'll go ahead and assume they still fare well in the dating market, and if they are single - it's by their choice. When women say that "dating market is bad", they mean men "don't measure up" to what they want (meaning guys they are actually attracted to don't want to commit to them) - yes yes, incel talk, blah blah. There is no fixing it anyway. Even if men collectively agreed to "improve themselves" to match these standards, the bar would just be raised. Which is understandable - everyone want…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 08:03 PM
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Wow...there are no words to describe how stupid your statement is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 07:51 PM
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they normalize unsatisfying selfish sex with things like jackhammering, make certain kinks and niche fetishes appear more normalized than they are. Here you go. I know quite a few women how PREFER the dreaded jackhammering. I guess it's also because of men. Some of y'all self guilt so much, it's downright sad
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 07:43 PM
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well kempt 15 minutes Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 07:22 PM
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Almost as if dressing good and maintaining basic hygiene is not the gate to dating! Whoa, who knew?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 07:11 PM
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Sloppy haircuts and untrimmed beards are not a sign of bad hygiene. Unless you also consider regrowth (don't know how to say it in English) after dyeing your hair, or having hair in a tight ponytail, a sign of bad hygiene
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 07:10 PM
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Ah yes, I love the "just take a shower, and you'll be attracting all the ladies"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 07:01 PM
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Fingernails are my fucking nightmare. I clip and clean them regularly, but even throughout the day they get dirty (and I have a desk job). I always have a mini nail kit with me, but I'm constantly self conscious about them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 07:00 PM
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What the fuck? Sexuality is not a choice - it's something you are born with
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 06:41 PM
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Motherfucker you went on the rant how men want porn sex and can't be satisfied with regular intimacy, and when someone pointed out women engage in non vanilla and all the kinks there are, you went the "stuck up-superior" route "because I'm married and AKTHUALLY HAD SEX WITH WOMEN". fun fact: just because someone watches porn, doesn't mean he will abuse every single woman he meets.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 06:40 PM
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You are talking as if ONLY men want to engage in non-vanilla sex, and all men watching porn are some gooning predators
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 06:29 PM
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Being interesting can be hard, if your interests are not interesting to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 06:14 PM
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I noped out of menslib right away. I still am in bro pill, and haven't noticed anything that extreme tho
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/25 06:11 PM
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The only people thinking that the dating market should be improved or fixed are men - unattractive men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 05:41 PM
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You mean women have such high standards, only a very small number of, already popular, men clear them (so they will not commit, because why?); meanwhile men have very realistic standards, where women do not have to be 10/10 supermodels, just treat them nice and maybe not be obese? Two can play that game ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 05:38 PM
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I disagree about the "more women actually look after themselves", based on what I see everyday
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 05:35 PM
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I'm sorry, but this is literally the stupid "advice" given to "incels", so they stop whining. Tons of men "dress for their body and wash their hair (and ass)" and still can't find a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 05:32 PM
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Men "improving themselves" won't fix shit, but also, women don't have to lower their standards. Why would I want to be with a woman, who HAD TO lower her standards for me? This would be humiliating. No, thank you. Also - I hate this fucking rethoric "Men should improve themselves for women" Fuck no. Improve yourself, so you live better.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 05:30 PM
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I mean not every single thing on the internet IS a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 05:15 PM
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Go to a social event with friends where people your age hang out. Like a game night or a house party or a bookclub. You mean places/events, where people (women) go to have fun/do activities and not be bothered by strangers? Have friendly, normal conversation with whatever women are around. See if you vibe with any of them. See if they seem happy to be around you. If you do, create another social event that you invite a lot of people to and include that woman. Continue this process until (if) vib…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 05:14 PM
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Yes. Please give me other, valid, ways
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 04:54 PM
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This IS an appropriate time, but yes there are more reasons to not do it—if it’s a cold approach you’re 99% likely to not have success. For good reason. You don’t know each other. We don’t miss cold approaches. What IS an appropriate time? The solution is to find other ways to get to know a woman than by seeing her and telling her you only like her based on how she looks and nothing else. Which is what cold approaching means. And whether you think it makes it “easier” or “harder” for men to get …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 04:14 PM
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It would be great, if more women actually were feminists. Not man-haiting misandrists - feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 01:27 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 12:15 PM
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I blame social media, ragebaits and alogrithm. You can start by watching funny cats videos, and in 5 minutes, you end up listening how horrible men are, because some dude had the audacity to be attracted to some girl, or fell in love with his friend (never date friends). Such things may develop or reinforce some ideas. Sadly it is not staying online only. Many of my female friends told me that men shouldn't bother women in public (be it store, gym, bar, club etc), while they simultaneously were …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 11:22 AM
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I had similar talk with my female friend and se also was frustrated, because the guy she liked did not approach her in any romantic way. When i suggested she would do the first step she reacted as if i told her to denounce her dignity and suck the guy off in the street. It was both funny and kinda sad, because she is the type of "woman power" "girl boss" feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 11:09 AM
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There is no "appropriate" time tho. There is always 100000 reasons not to approach at given time, all the time. > Whether I’m an anomaly or not, I still think it’s better this way Great! I would love for such dynamics to be considered normal and popular! But they are not. Majority of men won't be approached, not because they are some horrible monsters, who just wait for another "female" to nut in, but because majority of woman still don't want to approach and expect to be courted like back in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 11:02 AM
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So because you have your experience, that means other people's experience is not valid and they just don't understand the dynamics? So the girl, who claimed to be feminist, but also expected me to pay for the date is me not understanding the dynamic?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 10:59 AM
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Women. Maybe not downright scared, but rather vary. Very vary. And let's not pretend like stuff put on the internet is not real people talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 10:55 AM
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> Well, all people look for good looking people. There is nothing gendered about that. Correct. But only one gender (majority of it - yes, not all women...) still tries to pretend that looks don't matter and they are solely attracted to kind people. Obviously everybody want to be with someone they find attractive. > Amazing how benign you think men use AWALT As someone, who spends way to much time on various social medias, the worst use of AWALT i have ever seen was saying all women will cheat a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 10:54 AM
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> Feminism helped me more because it bought women the freedom to choose and approach people they like this I'm getting approached by women instead of this back breaking expectations of me being the man that should always be the one to approach and initiate everything. Except a lot of (if not most) women still expect to be approached by a man. If you are being approached by women, then congratulations - you must be hella attractive guy. > I'm extremely thankful for feminism because i no longer ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 10:43 AM
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I know quite a few older couples (40+) who met either on some party (not house party) via the guy just walking up to girl, or in any other "cold approach" way. The only relationship my parents have had, before becoming a couple, was that they both lived in our small town and went to the same school (but were not in the same circle of people). My dad just walked up to my mom (on some party or something) and started talking. Tons of people met through "cold approach" back in the days.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 09:56 AM
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Sure, but there is a difference between "All men are silently viscious monsters, who would rape and murder women if given chance" and "All women look for best looking guy there is" But yeah, both genders use "not all..." defense (which is understandable)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 09:01 AM
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And I'm 100% sure I blocked her ass TWICE. WTF
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:54 PM
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Why brush it off? Sexism and nasty behavior should be called out, regardless of the gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:52 PM
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> I believe you think I’m being inconsistent. I’m not. You are. You also deleted the comment that pointed it out. I said what my ex gf did and you went with "well he prolly better looking...". Yes! That's the point. We spent 2 years together, i did everything i could so she was happy, and yet, some random guy was still better in her eyes. > Furthermore I know NOTHING about you IRL. YOU could be an absolute dweeb or lame or with an insufferably unsexy comportment. The “spark” could be lacking bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:00 PM
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The only body mods i don't like, are these cartoonish Kim Kardashian like. I don't mind makeup (if done well) and also don't mind no makeup (yes, i'm talking 100% no makeup). I don't care if her skin is not perfectly smooth and "youthfull". We are humans, we have flaws, deal with it. > if a woman has had plastic surgery, should she be upfront about it? If she wants to. I don't see why someone SHOULD be upfront with any medical or cosmetic things done to them, as long as it not impacts the other …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:52 PM
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> All I gather from this information is that they looked better than you Correct. So after 2 years of a relationship, in which she supposedly loved me, she still, immediately, gave the guy "fuck me" eyes. He didn't even open his mouth yet. > had better presence/swag/interpersonal allure than you… or both Dude straight just walked in to the bar. But yes, it's my fault, because he was more handsome. My bad. Sorry...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:43 PM
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Should tell that to my ex-gf. 2 years together and she never looked at me with these sparks in her eyes, as when she met her coworker's cousin or brother or whoever he was. And I was literally standing next to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:32 PM
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Congratulation, you want to behave like redpillers! I don't know why, seeing most of the mainstream ones are just stupid, but you do you, i guess! >It's different because older men don't get insulted on these sites. In fact, they get praise Just as anything a women does is getting praise here. No difference at all. >Also, FYI, pointing out the downsides men get from aging isn't insulting them. I didn't say anything nasty And you did it in a context of pointing out flaws and insulting people abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 08:40 AM
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Cheating? Yes Lying? I'd say depends on the context
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 08:27 AM
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What do you mean "you people"? So making fun of women is HORRIBLE ACT OF MYSOGYNY, but making fun of men is "you people can live with it"? Don't get me wrong, saying a woman is "inferior" because she is past 30yo is fucking stupid, but don't you see your hypocrisy?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 08:19 AM
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Right? I get not wanting to date someone, but insulting them, just because they aging?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 08:13 AM
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"You don't see women shitting on older men here!" Proceeds to insult older men, based on their looks The comedy writes itself
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 08:12 AM
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Won't risk developing romantic feelings and attachment to a person, who might not be satisfied with monogamy, because they've been changing sexual partners like gloves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 12:20 AM
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Because there may be a reason she decided to have sex with 5 different people in just one month. Good for her. Not for me. Therefore I won't risk it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 12:11 AM
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I compare it to the usual usage of "husband material", which is just a way of saying one is not really physically and personality-wise attractive, but he provides things "husband should".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:34 PM
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I won't say "if she has 5 bodies, she will cheat", but I will say "if she has 5 bodies in one month, I think she wouldn't be satisfied in a monogamous relationship, therefore I won't risk it". No science, no proof, no source. Just my gut
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:27 PM
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Right, but that's the point. "Husband material" IS USED like your first example. It's never "you are a husband material, because you make me laugh", it's "you are a husband material, because I wouldn't date you in my younger days, but now I feel stable with you".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:23 PM
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It all depends on the context. As with everything
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:04 PM
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If you tell a woman, she is "wife material", because she can cook well and keeps the house clean, I doubt she would be happy about it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:03 PM
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No, it's not. Sex with your partner is quite different than quicky in club's toilet or stranger's car.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 10:15 AM
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So you don't care, but when it's 30+ you do care. Make up your mind
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 10:13 AM
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They could live, but in an unregulated setting, the average men would make far more money than the average women. I don't really think that would be the case. There is a contradiction in women: they desire someone who earns more than them, but they also desire equality. As they have (through government) achieved financial equality, very few men interest them. If we allowed the market to correct itself, the problem would naturally fix itself But I would like to see how this would resolve
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:20 PM
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Why? Are you saying women are so incompetent and weak they couldn't live without an extra help?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 12:54 PM
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or do you want men to DO something about it? The only thing a man could do is not rewarding women who use their body to get attention or money with his attention or money. Although I agree men shouldn't reward women just for their body and looks, well, that's what many men want. So they will continue to do so
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 12:43 PM
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Redpill or any other similar content is pure grift Current red pill content is a pure grift, agreed. Any content creator that promises to teach you how to “approach women” or attract a “high value man” is a scammer plain and simple. This stuff is just a ploy to get money from desperate men and women. agreed The only way to be attractive to the opposite sex is by being physically attractive, intelligent, competent and being a decent person. There is no secret or shortcut. People are also very goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 09:57 AM
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What hobbies have to do with it? I engage in my hobbies, because I like them, no matter the opinion of others, thank you. But still, why did you bring them up?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 10:28 PM
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You are purposefully dancing around the point and act like there are no consequences. And you still hold on to those clothes, like your life depends on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:19 PM
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My fight isn't with anybody, because there ain't no really a fight. Not the one we (men) could potentially win, unless there would be some extreme men shortage world wide (which I don't wish to be). I just pointed out why certain men are allowed to be more "feminine". It's fame. It's also a handsome face, because an ugly dude with nail polish and skirt will still be slandered by women (and men).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 05:15 PM
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Men are taking on their own fights. There are men all over TikTok with painted nails and kilts or skirts. All over Hollywood. Harry Styles wears pearls and dresses and he’s drowning in women. John Batiste, too. Jared McCain. They are also...famous. Hollywood famous, or tik tok famous. For one Harry Styles, you have 10 random dudes being slandered and called "zesty" by women. Also, the clothing style alone is not really rejecting gender norms. Sure, this guy is wearing a skirt...he is still expec…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 04:05 PM
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Holy smokes, dude. The superiority complex is literally spilling from your comments. "Learn from those with some experience". But not those who experienced this and got burned, right? Their experience is irrelevant. Only yours is correct. Starting with such judgment may very well prevent some unnecessary problems in future. And I'm sure I will find what I'm looking for, eventually. Because I know what I want and I won't settle for less. Not anymore, thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 09:36 PM
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That's why guys who put in even 50% the effort that women do to look nice have swarms of women that hit on them. It's not gay to care about your appearance. These are your words tho. And no, I'm not a goblin. I'm an average looking dude. I've been In relationships, I get compliments from women occasionally etc. It just doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:21 PM
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"Talking" as in just talking? Sure, women are not running away from me in disgust (they never did, even when i dressed sloppy) "Talking" as in "showing attraction"? Nope. They do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:17 PM
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I did. Partially to be more attractive to women, partially to feel better for myself. I take care of my skin, i take care of my body, i take care of my clothing etc. I put effort. Everyday. Because i like to. This, however, did not change the amount of women who are attracted to me/approach me. It's still 0. inb4 - "well you probably are just ugly" Well, yeah. That's the point
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:15 PM
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Great. So how would you feel, if she did cheat on you? "Oh well, it's all good. the chemistry was great!"? If you are okay with a girl having sex with every member of some garage rock band, or getting banged in club's toilet every friday, "untill she met you" - more power to you dude. Seriously. I don't judge. But don't act superior, just because someone else have different standards and is looking for for someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:38 PM
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I understand some people don't care about their partner's past/habits/values/morals (whatever else) - that's okay. More power to them. But acting superior because of that is just braindead
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:34 PM
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Girl, I use skin care (which works, as I get "how do you have such clean skin??" from female friends), keep my facial hair nice and trimmed, dress nice (according to me and other people, girls too), am bald so no haircut tho, and no girl ever hit on me. Most of you don't really care about that stuff, as long as the dude was born with good facial structure
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 02:00 PM
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> If your partner ever had a desire to sleep with another person other than yourself, would you wish to know, or prefer they never told you? Yes, i wish she told me > Upon learning that your partner became consumed with lust for another, and admitted that they were willing to risk everything for a brief lustful encounter with a stranger but didn't act upon it, could you continue the relationship? No, i would not > How do you view monogamous relationships? As the only viable type of relationship …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 11:06 AM
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> I don’t really understand the hate for promiscuous women I don't understand the hate too. I do understand why some man wouldn't want to be with such women tho. > Not all of them are the same Being promiscuous is being promiscuous. There are no different ways to be promiscuous. > some enjoy sleeping around That's being promiscuous > some just like wearing clothes that show off their figure That's not. That's just wearing revealing clothes. > It’s unfair to lump them all into the stereotype of g…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 09:28 AM
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Oh for fuck sake, get the fuck out with the "oh i'm old and i have better values. You young guys are so shallow". You'd be singing another song if your wife would be groupie for some low level DJ or cheat on you with some some chump in club's toilet.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 09:16 AM
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If that bothers you, you could ask them to stop dude. Most likely they will stop making a joke. If she keeps doing that, that means she’s a bad partner and you need to find another girlfriend. No need to be insecure Motherfucker you spent 3 comments, just to still miss the entire point of my response. But it's okay. I used to be desperate too. I endured the not funny jokes and the way she looked at taller dudes. Luckily I have self-respect now and I hope you find it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 08:21 PM
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Jesus fucking christ are so desperate to have a gf, that you have no problem with her constantly shitting on you, making fun of you and telling over and over that she wishes you'd been taller? No, I don't want to shit on my gf. Why would i? Get help, man. Like, really, you should seek some help
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 08:05 PM
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Why insecure? Because I don't like when a person that supposedly loves me constantly makes jokes about me? I'm not making jokes about their boobs or whatever other physical trait either. One - two jokes are fine. Constant shitting on is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:55 PM
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And the majority of women I've known wanted super tall guys, and when they couldn't get one, they'd constantly joke about their bf height. Miss me with that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:49 PM
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Because the percentage of men, who set the cup size as clear and unbreakable bar is non-comparable to the percentage of women, who set the height as extreme bar. Most men are "boobs are boobs" (sometimes added "as long as they are natural"). Most women do want taller partners and will set the height standard. I don't understand why so many of you deny it, when you have written, lived experience from so many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 07:14 PM
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Don't think about it too much. Be a kind person not to get laid, but just to be kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 04:03 PM
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> What was the slip up? I got mild...panic attack? I don't know if it was panic attack because i never had one before (or after) but i'm guessing all the negative thoughts and pressure decided to go out at once. I was at the bathroom at the time and just started crying. She found me i could immediately tell her disposition to me changed. You could literally see it in her face. The "got dumped immediately" is hyperbole, i confess, because she officially broke up with me two days after, but during…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 08:26 AM
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And likewise, many guys are unattractive due to things that cannot be changed. Not every single guy is unwashed, obese freeloader, dwelling in his parent's basement
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 12:45 AM
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Doing things just for validation of others will lead to abandoning said things, once you are not receiving said validation (or not enough). Keeping body healthy should be a goal in itself. If you want to base your health and look on appreciation from the others - you are free to do so. I just think it's not the best way of living
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 06:19 PM
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> More men could take steps to become more attractive (hygiene, obesity, not living in their parents basement playing fortnight at 36). Just like more women could. For example you. Then maybe the guy you are attracted to would be attracted to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 02:10 PM
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This is seriously such a good idea, but would need to be implemented very carefully. No focusing on aesthetics, but rather on developing healthy looking and performing body, teaching about nutrition etc. Having some bar to pass in terms of performance but not ridiculing those, who can't meet them - rather help them achieve it. I know it would be hard to convince some boys to it (i myself am great example of that) but with right teacher it could do wonders. And most important - teach them to do i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 02:09 PM
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One would also say it's weird for women to call herself promiscuous and use it as some...flex? Badge of honor? But here we are, I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:34 AM
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She is definitely insecure about her past
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:31 AM
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I'm sorry, but such men are literally being destroyed here and everywhere else for "wanting virgins"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:29 AM
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Correct And if you don't want to be shamed, don't shame men for not having sex, or for wanting sex
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:27 AM
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No pill, but rather red, than blue 27yo male I did care in the past (which led me to pretending something I'm not). Right now I don't really care. I am interested in what various women might find attractive (like for example, the easiest there is - clothes. I know there are few women who might like my style, but to the majority it's not cool - well, I don't care), but not so I can become that, but rather to see if I fit. And if not? Well, tough luck, I'm still happy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:06 AM
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The main thing RP is teaching, is self-respect. It tells men to value themselves and not be afraid to walk away if the respect is not given. Unlike BP, which tells men to put women on a pedestal and if they expect anything from the relationship (like companionship, affection or intimacy) they are misogynistic incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 11:07 AM
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Is it the reason I struggle to get dates? No, I don't think so. The reason is I'm not enough for most women, which is understandable to me. And it's not something you can put work in - these are my conscious choices I won't change
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 10:58 AM
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That's good advice,but it's not given by the blue pill at all. Maybe one or two of you will say it (but always with the added "oh but ALL PEOPLE SHOULD HEHE" and something about incels). The only side I see consistently talking about men raising their standards is the red pill (for good or bad reasons - whatever)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 10:36 AM
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I don't care what feminists, blue pillers or red pillers say - I expect companionship, understanding, affection, putting a work into relationship and dates, sex and other forms of non-sexual intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 10:14 AM
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Okay, that all makes sense, with the caveat that MANY women will also firmly say to NOT approach in such places, because they are there for fun, not to "be bothered". Obviously it all comes down to social awareness
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:46 PM
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So apparently you don't understand other women, or you actively try to sabotage your male friends. I hope it's the first, because it would be kind of cruel. I will lean into the first one too, based on my own experience, and experience of my friends, who would go to our female friends for any advice. You understand you. You know what YOU would like to see, with the preface that potential guy is already physically attractive to you. And that's not something bad. It just comes off as malicious som…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:24 PM
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Apart from the generic "Oh my goood, you're such a cool guy. Just go talk to her!" or "just be yourself and someone will come"? The most recent was to literally change my whole identity. Change clothes (i dress in more classic, smart/business casual/old money-y (hate that term, but at least people know what i'm talking about) way), drop my hobbies (motorcycles - mainly choppers, and swing dancing) and become someone entirely different. It was very radical and asinine "advice", so i rejected it o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:17 PM
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I literally asked YOU what do YOU understand by "warm" approach. Friend's circle is one of the most often suggested "place" to find potential relationship, that's why i brought it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:31 PM
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Funny thing is i do want to listen to what women SAY they want. Their advice is just...not good. Doesn't work, because i am not conventionally attractive hunk of meat. I wouldn't disregard a good advice, just because it came from women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:24 PM
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One of the most stupid "interpretations" of this here
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 11:40 AM
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> sure because its better to listen to the advice of bros that are single but will take your money just to boost your ego and you will believe it One could listen to bros who are popular with women. You don't have to go full PUA. > instead of listening to women say what they are looking for Once most women actually realize what draws them in, then it will be great advice. The amount of "just be yourself", "just be kind" i got is downright funny. > I had men tryint to flirt with me with what is v…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 11:37 AM
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One shouldn't outright disregard an advice or opinion, just because it came from women, but in general, your advice is not very useful to an average guy. I love talking about gender and or dating dynamics with my female friends, to learn about their perspective and their opinion, and present mine. I have friends from various backgrounds/circles but with hand over my hearth, i can tell you 99% of them thinks in such a similar way it's sometimes scary and funny. > So women shouldn't take y'all's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 10:48 AM
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My parents "advice" were equally useless. But they are very persistent on asking me when i "finally find a wife"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 10:36 AM
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If by "advice" you mean "just wait and pray", then yeah. You could say it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 10:33 AM
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What do you mean by "warm approach"? Inside your friends circle? To create potential drama and have the "I tHoUgHt I hAvE a FrIeNd" thrown in our face? Dating within friends group is bad idea and also not possible for some of us
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 10:32 AM
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> In a gym setting? Inappropriate My friend and his gf would disagree (he approached her). But i agree it's better to not approach girls in gym. > At a bar? Appropriate! They are there to spend time with their friend, get couple of drinks and have fun. Not to have some random dude approaching them! - or so i heard form at least fuckton of women > With headphones in? Inappropriate Agreed > At a grocery store while she’s making googly eyes at you? Appropriate! She is just shopping. Don't bother pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 10:30 AM
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In my opinion, women give great advice, when YOU ARLEADY ARE IN A RELATIONSHIP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 10:09 AM
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> Yo, women have different preferences. Different women are going to like different things. (Which is why I mostly just go with my own preferences, unless it's something where I know something is held very widely.) Obviously. But that's yet another argument, as to why women's advice is not very usefull (unless we try to attract her, or her 1-to-1 twin sister). Different women will tell different things and very often contradict themselves, while most mid guys use very similar "tactics" to be pop…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:54 AM
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> Style is all about context, right? I agree, however style is also about feeling good in what you wear. Because even tho i'm not wearing suits to my work, i still wear creased pants, shirts and ties. And compared to others, look like a ceo of the company (while from IT dept...). Contextually, i should probably wear jeans and tshirts. But i like ties. I live in Poland, so there is the clash of mentality here, as you can see people dressed more nicely and people in tracksuits, so i don't really k…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:47 AM
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I'm 28 yo. Some say it's young, some say it's no longer young :V I don't know why it would sound immature, but maybe I'm yet to find out. I just described my experience, experience of my friends and experience of various other men I met online or in real life. I'm sure some things change after 30, 40 or 50. With the style, I'm biased heavy (I mean, I'm biased on everything, it's all my opinion after all) as I always KNEW how I wanted to dress in that time. It never was just random pants and t-sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:06 AM
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Funny, because my lady friend told me ALL moustaches are creepy (not Henry Cavill's tho, of course)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:09 AM
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smile be responsive laugh at his jokes give him a compliment With just these 4 things a girl can safely secure most men. But of course no one's advice is universal and people vary from each other
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 01:08 AM
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And what my main issue would be?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:51 AM
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Well I'm sorry, but apparently you are a bad person for saying that. Unless it, of course, only applies to men. If someone asked me if I'm a good or decent person, I'd say I fucking hope so. I try to be. Knowing some people will deem me bad just for thinking that is quite sad
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:49 AM
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I disagree with you on various points. Disagree. Men absolutely should take dating advice from women, but it needs to come from women who are aware enough of their own choices and what they find attractive, and are confident/unashamed enough to express it directly. This I actually do agree, but I haven't meet such women yet (okay, there were two, but their "awareness" is solely based on religion). And I'm not saying this with malice intent, as some "hehe wymyn are stupid, they don't know what th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 12:44 AM
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My stupid comment was a response to another stupid comment, saying "I have never seen that, which means it ain't happening". I just made the same fallacy as the previous commenter
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 08:35 PM
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I can't say I'm a good person, because that automatically makes me bad? Doesn't really make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 07:01 PM
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touché
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 04:58 PM
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That's not a loser. That's a non-functional adult. No, I wouldn't date such a person. I expect an adult to be adulting, to whatever level they are able to. Have a job, a hobby, some friends, be clean etc
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 03:27 PM
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Got it. You are just yet another man-hater. here i though there was another actually just women here...lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:50 AM
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So to challange OP's point, you brought up anecdotal "evidence".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:45 AM
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Would you also say that to a woman, who says "all men are assholes/bad/cheaters/abusers"etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:42 AM
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Right? I too love when people do some logical fallacy and think they won the argument. So next time maybe be better
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:41 AM
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I don't know a single men who was violent towards a women, which means there is no men-on-women violence
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:38 AM
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Yet another women thinking friendship is the same level of intimacy as romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 11:35 AM
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Fear? I'm perfectly fine with my masculinity, and am not afraid women will see me as less masculine. I do know however, I'm not masculine enough for some women, but that's no longer my problem
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 11:15 PM
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We won't come to any conclusion when your strategy is putting blindfold ang saying "waaa there is no such thing"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 01:53 PM
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I don't think men's problems can be resolved by law, as they are mostly social.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 01:49 PM
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Right, but they often are not. And let's not pretend critiques of man are much more allowed, even if they too are general misandry
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 01:46 PM
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This may not describe how YOU see women, but it does describe how many blue pillers DO see and treat women (and men who don't agree with their religion). You can't critic anything a women does, because you are automatically an incel and mysgoynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 09:24 AM
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I disagree. Whenever you propose splitting bill, mostly women go up in arms
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 09:20 AM
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> I think you need to support your hypothesis here, rather than making stuff up. guy with the list (@guywiththeicklist) • Instagram photos and videos
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:23 AM
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The one that are this much controlling have their own issues and should work them out, before getting into relationship. That's what boundaries are for. You say you don't like thing your partner does. They are still doing them? Well, you leave the relationship then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:11 AM
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And I have many female friends and only one even tried to listen to me. Guess we both need new friends
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:26 PM
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Great So no, when you hear/see a men telling about his problems, say you understand he is upset, and say you are sorry he goes through such thing, instead of calling him incel a laughing at him. Quite simple
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:25 PM
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Yup
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:23 PM
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..…,So how does that work when men are 50% of the pop., the majority of rulers, and still don't get their problems addressed? Because people in power (yes, mostly men nowadays) don't care about the problems of regular people, unless addressing such problems (in whatever way) could benefit them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:22 PM
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The entire post is a proof
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:20 PM
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There’s a reason they got associated with it. I went to an incel forum. It was exactly what people expect to see on an incel forum. And feminism is often associated with hatred of men, slogans like "kill all men" etc - so I guess it's true? Then its not about sexual history. Its the individual vile behavior, especially over his own sex history. But IT IS about sexual history. You are literally using his lack of sex as an insult, which is hypocritical
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 11:03 AM
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1) not all 2) that doesn't change anything, really
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:40 AM
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And they use "slut" and "whore" as an insult against women. Although using a "slut" or "whore" is also fucking braindead way of insulting a women for having sex (as if having sex was in some way degrading to women, lol) I think it's different story. If they'd first say something along the lines of "women having much sex builds their value up/women who have sex often, with many men are more worthy" etc, and then go on calling them sluts - then it would be the same, in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:00 AM
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It will always be funny, that people screaming about sexuality not being a determinant of anything, use an "incels" as an insult
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:39 AM
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When I was in a relationship, I stopped watching porn for sometime, as I did not need it - I had a gf I loved having sex with. When I'm not in a relationship I do watch porn. If I got into another relationship, I'd stop watching porn again. Like, it's no brainer. PS: porn never stopped me from wanting to pursue real women with "real bodies"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 01:44 PM
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Sure men do it too. But the ones who do that don't claim otherwise. And they are not potential romantic targets of the "virgin" men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:49 PM
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This is the right approach! Men complain about women's delusions, high standards and pickyness, but will gladly drag their balls through glass shards for just a second of seeing some pussy. Don't do that, men. Have some self-respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 09:42 AM
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>It's men who think that their manhood is questioned or seen as losers if they're virgins or if they're not partnered. It's also men here who say that a man's value is directly tied with how sexually successful he is Because IT IS questioned. By women. "Virgin" is so commonly used as an insult, directed towards men, yall stopped thinking it's bad. You'll just call single guy loser, say he probably doesn't get laid, laugh and be on your way, preaching equality and fairness.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 09:35 AM
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That's me. Literally. It's the unhealthy hobby of mine, to read shit and get salty.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 07:00 PM
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Out of desperation? The fear he will remain single forever?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:57 PM
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Everybody knows having sex with girl acting like dead body is soooooooooooo enjoyable...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:23 PM
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The evidence is the dead bedroom. Of course, when man physically changes for the worse, it is understandable (no, i'm not talking about getting older)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 03:15 PM
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dead bedrooms? People talk with each other and may talk about such things
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 09:31 AM
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She probably needs aspirin after reading this sub. Gods know i do too
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 09:29 AM
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My comment was a reference to my "discussion" with this dude we've had earlier, about him ALWAYS saying "....but both genders are bad". Well...you can see for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 04:53 PM
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Men, the comedy literally writes itself with yall
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 04:23 PM
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Just like there are women who go for assholes, because they are handsome, right? RIGHT?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 03:33 PM
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> You wouldn’t call a guy who blows a bunch of money on a hobby he loves desperate Because he spends money ON something he loves > Or on getting a degree or certification If he spends insane amount of money JUST to have a degree/cert? Yeah, that's desperate. Less so if he KNOWS he will profit of of it. Spending as much money on thing in hopes someone will finally pick him is desperate. Unless he just likes going to such events. Not because he SOOOOO NEEEEEDS to have a gf, but because he likes go…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 03:11 PM
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> The experience on the apps who are designed to make money (not actually get people matched)? That’s like saying “my experience in gambling at the casino has proven Ill never be rich” Right, because single events makers are these saint's matchmakers, who hope people will fall in love at their event. Definitely not doing it for money. All in all it comes down to women there. They are still picky and if they wouldn't pick a dude on free app, they won't do it on paid event. > What you spend your m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 03:00 PM
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> Who says what the odds are? The experience on dating apps? The experience of other men, attending singles meetings? > “Every man should take a risk at least once a day. Otherwise he might be walking around lucky and not even know it!” And how much money should they spend, "taking the risk"? You go to one, two, five events, see the results are same as with apps (because women are not less picky IRL) and deem it too expensive in the long run
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 02:44 PM
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I mean, if the alternative is a paid singles event with the same (or even higher) chance of rejection, why should they bother with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 02:31 PM
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I mean, IT IS EASIER and cheaper to swipe and be rejected, over going out, paying for the entry and then being rejected
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 02:21 PM
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He is right here though. When discussion is held about something women do wrong, there will be tons of comments (from BP and the "no pill") how BOTH GENDERS BLAH BLAH BLAH But when it's about men doing something wrong, it's always "yeah, these mysogynistic pigs"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 12:32 PM
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I understand the concept of "Blue Pill is just opposition to Red Pill" and it not being some unified community. But just lurking on this sub, you will always see bunch of "Blue Pillers" go: "Oh, you can't find a gf, because you are stinky sexist" or "men, just take a shower and be kind, and you'll have flock of girls after you, because the bar is so low". And these statements are obviously insane takes. Because, sure, there are these dudes, dropped on head, who hate women but still want one, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 12:28 PM
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That's maintaining friendships, not entertaining other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 04:27 PM
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Having a male friend, and entertaining other men are two different things, unless you build your friendships with guys on flirting, late night meetings one-on-on and generally putting them above your partner
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 04:21 PM
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I don't think AI girlfriends will change much, unless we reach the technology to literally fake human touch and how it feels (sex-dolls, sure, but a sex-doll with integrated AI will be super-fucking-expensive toy for the richest of people, so nothing for regular Joe, who is unlucky in dating market). Just AI chat boxes can take up some time of these guys life, but they will eventually want to meet someone new. And i'd argue it will be much worse, as some of them might get "destroyed" by the chat…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 04:14 PM
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Imagine a woman buys her AI Chad Boyfriend, it learns how to act subservient, and then she dumps him, because it's no longer the Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 03:46 PM
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Yeah, it's not hard or time-consuming, so I don't see the big problem with it. And after we got the dryer machine it became even easier. Now that I live alone (well, not alone, but not with my parents) the one thing I truly miss is this dryer 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 09:45 AM
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There is "always" something to do and it can all be done under 8 hours. 4 if you are an efficient person. If you can't manage to do it, then that's on you
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 09:43 AM
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Laundry was done by whoever was in the room and decided the basket was getting too full, so it made sense to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 09:28 AM
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One hamper in my household too, in "washroom". Everybody would just throw the clothes there and laundry was made in one go (two, if there was too much clothes for one)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 09:19 AM
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If the kid is at school, there is not that much to do
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 09:11 AM
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There are women who are taking a pleasure in just having the sex with some stranger. But they are in minority, i guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 02:31 PM
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> The men that think that still having their virginity is weak or a bad thing have fragile egos or are warped by societies feelings on virginity. When you hear that being virgin at certain age is fucked and corny - yeah, no brainer your ego will be weak and you'll have insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 11:16 AM
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Terrible, rightfully so. I do agree with you. Shaming someone about their size, even when using it "not literally" is a scumbag move and those who claim they are feminist and still do it are big hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 11:08 AM
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> And I think the greta thunberg one is a bit unfair too, she's a child whose been harassed by the manosphere The men who harrassed her shouldn't do that, obviously. But she is 21 years old, hardly a child. She should know (and most probably does know) what she says and what does it means
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:56 AM
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I meant how people will defend themselves with "oh it's not literall size, it's just how they behave".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:52 AM
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That's probably because they either had some rough partners in the past, or unskilled partners in past (which is obviously nothing to be ashamed of either. It's a skill that can be learned
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:50 AM
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If you are being insulted much, you'll eventually get angry. Or are you suggesting women, who are called fat much, are okay with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:48 AM
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I guess you are okay with how people were treating Lizzo? Or any other bigger woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:47 AM
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That's the premise of this (and similar) post. How else could we fight with it? Bring it up to some public debate? The fucking PRESIDENT OF UNITED STATES already made jokes about it. Imagine some dude going to some talk show or whatever and going "Yeah, i think shaming men about their size is wrong, it should be stopped"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:41 AM
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> I mean makes sense. Feminism is about women's rights Isn't feminism about equality? Every time some one says feminism is only about women, some self-proclaimed leader of global feminist association will scream it's about EQUALITY and feminism fights for both women AND MEN (which is obviously a lie)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:39 AM
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hmm, i won't link any specific discussion, but i did see few talks about cut or un-cut. It was, however, mainly US based, as in other regions it's not as popular (i think).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:35 AM
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This is correct, but really, not body shaming is not hard. When you want to shame someone for some reason, use the thing they do, not how they look.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:34 AM
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Same here. Now i don't give a fuck, because i'm average sized for my country (or the whole europe) and my tounge game is top notch, but when i was with my ex i felt like shit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:33 AM
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Nah men. His opponent are not worse people. They may be not as nice and good as they claim, but not worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:31 AM
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That's because women tend to put on the "raightous" mask, which comes off when the tension rise. It's always "i don't care about men's weight" up untill she is angry and there goes the "fat fuck". ALWAYS. That does not mean the men shaming fat women are okay. No. These are jerks, asshole, fucking scums. Fuck them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:29 AM
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It's my assumption, based on my own experience and experience of my friends and guys i talked with online: While loosing weight is not easy at all - simple, but not easy - not gaining this much weight in first place is a bit easier (unless you have some kind of illness, where you have to be religious about it). But saying "you are far" to a woman (while still being an asshole move, because why do you care? Mind your own business) means just that - "you are fat" with maybe added "you are fat, whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:25 AM
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First time one of my sexual partners brought up the shape of her vagina (as a negative thing - she said she hates how it looks, because it's outie blah blah blah) i was confused, because even I, quite terminally online dude, have never seen any "discussion" about the shape of vagina (and she said she "learned" that online). It baffles me, because pussy is pussy. I don't care how it looks, i care who the "owner" of it is. Whoever tries to shame a women about her vagina is an asshole. Fuck them. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 10:18 AM
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I've had two female friends who did that (one even laughed about it). I was once turned down when we almost were in bed, and my ex gf wouldn't date me if she knew I was a virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 12:13 PM
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Troll won't be able to get the Chad, but Lucy will be fucked by Chad (and then dumped). But instead of others telling her she "should go for her match", she'll hear how men are pigs and she deserves better.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:20 PM
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If he was as handsome and wealthy as he thinks he is., why would he not be able to get Lucy? Because Lucy (and the "troll" you decided to ignore) decided he is not worthy enough. Yes, that means he is not desirable to them, but that doesn't mean they aren't matched in terms of any dating value. It's just one side is being delusional about it. And if he doesn't want to pursue women that will be into him What women would that be? We already established women waaaay below average can be entitled mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:12 PM
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This description is not set in any reality, because the most plain looking women still have more romantic prospects than plain looking men. By your logic, these women should be a match for average men. But they still reject said men. So should average men go for below average women then?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:08 PM
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Out of curiosity - who approached/initiated anything romantic?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 05:02 PM
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I don't care for relationships right now, because pretending to be something I'm not is exhausting. I already have my joys and do what I want to do. All I wanted to say is men HAVE TO stick to script (in general) if they do want to have these romantic prospects
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:53 PM
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I already did, which in turn means I have 0 romantic prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:34 PM
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And then using his wealth strictly for himself and to fulfill his wishes. Yeah, go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:17 PM
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They are literally the model red pillers tho. ESPECIALLY musk.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:13 PM
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And they have countless women willing to be with them. Because they are rich
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:08 PM
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And if they don't want to hug?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:04 PM
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Idk about you but I never see women go on dates in full pants suits. What? Are you saying you do not see women, on dates, in pants? Really? Because I've been on a date with a girl who wore tracksuit pants. I don’t see them ordering the largest portion of meat, Probably because most women tend to be vegan. Or just are not taken to dinner on first date. or leading. Women very much still follow their social norms. That's because they expect men to lead (unless you meant something else by "leading"?…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 03:56 PM
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You "buy" their time/affection/support with yours. Otherwise it's a one sided "relationship" and I already had one and no, thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 03:40 PM
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Again - it's literally a transaction. It's just phrased prettier. And i don't think it's wrong, just to be clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 03:32 PM
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So if your partner suddenly stopped being supportive AT ALL, you'd continue to be supportive? And i don't mean like they are ill, or depressed. I mean one day the decide to fuck it (but not break up). In "communism" you'd obliged to uphold your support
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 03:31 PM
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You are right, i'm sorry. I somehow mixed yours and other commenter comments. You clearly wrote about men with shitty personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 02:07 PM
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You didn't answer my question tho. You bluntly stated men are not having success in dating, because they go for women above their own league. Which would mean, that average guy would have to go for under-average or even lower women (in terms of looks AND personality)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 01:51 PM
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Yes. But as a woman, you don't have to uphold ANY game. You get to "just be yourself". Such luxury is not for almost any man
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 01:38 PM
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The delusions are not: "I'm so attractive" The delusions are: "Guys that write to me are not attractive enough" > If those people are delusional, then they'll end up rejected And they are! After one or two "dates" (always ending with sex) these guys they deemed "attractive enough" will go to the next girl. And the girl that been dumped will scream "men are pig" again. And then repeat the process. Meanwhile there are regular guys, who won't even get a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 01:11 PM
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What is "an average" woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 01:01 PM
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I assume you agree and uphold the "women are only attracted to top 5-10 (whatever it is now)% of men" statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 12:42 PM
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Exactly this! I am healthy weight, average height guy, with stable job (with possibility of improvement). I dress clean, i keep my hygiene to great level. I have somewhat big social circle (which means i am likeable and safe person). I have my hobbies and interests (which are, quite ironically, more women dominated). I'm open and in check with my emotions (or at least i try to be, for my own sake). But, apparently, that's not enough. I don't demand women to love me, or expect to have flock of gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 12:40 PM
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Overall yes. Man changing standards would only work if ALL MEN (Like literally 100% of men worldwide) decided to change these standards overnight, cold turkey, no coming back. Starting from the "bottom" of ditching any support for OF/IG/TikTok/etc women using their sexuality to earn money all the way to the "top" of hiring based ONLY on skills and experience (so every single job application/cv would have to be written in non-binary form, without any photos, names etc. But it's impossible to do, …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 12:27 PM
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So let's assume the average Joe (not overweight, but not muscular, average income, average face, has good manners and is not sexist pig) decides to take your advice/stance and instead going for average Lucy (not overweight, but not IG model type of body, average income, average face etc) (because she has much more dating options than Joe, so they are not on their level), he goes for obese, stinky female basement troll. But the troll decided she is entitled to "Chad-like" guy. So Joe is not desir…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 12:18 PM
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You have to pre-face the statement with the fact, that she is a women. She won't have the same struggles as men have, so she can afford the luxury of "just being honest".
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 12:06 PM
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> Past that, just trial and error. I've done mostly online dating, I've read what the common complaints about men's profiles are online, listened to what my female friends said about their dating experience, and I made sure to avoid those. Yeah, i tried this approach, but between woman contradicting themselves (which is understandable, they are not monolith) and not getting any matches anyway i just uninstalled apps and decided to fuck the dating game But hey, it's great if it works for you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 12:04 PM
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Not blue pill or red pill (altough i'd gravitate towards red pill much more, i guess?) Never used any specific guides except observing the world around me (which, quite ironically, led me towards red pill) and tried to adapt and overcome. I've had some "relationships" throughout my life (none from OLD). But, ultimately, the girl had to be a stranger and i had to pretend something i'm not, just so they were willing to give me a chance. Which is basically quasi-PUA. My latest and longest relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 12:02 PM
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But I THINK it is not incoherent mess. I THINK my comment holds value
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:54 AM
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Blue pill is literally "just be yourself, bro" You can try to twist the narration anyway you want, but ultimately redpill tells men to "better" themselves. And if "bettering" means observing and adapting - that's ultimately red pill or quasi-red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:46 AM
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he also is overweight, has scarred face and drools a bit. But he is such a respectful gentleman. It's all you need bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:41 AM
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> In other words, we must become independent men; stressing meanwhile that independence must not mean loneliness. We must strive for independence from women, not other men. We must lift each other up and create an environment wherein the male can be male for the sake of the male, not the female. We must embrace masculinity, if and because we want to, not so that we can appeal to them; not so that we can provide for them. But so that we can provide for ourselves. I know intimately the desire for …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:38 AM
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It is very lonely box and is sad, but men are not the one who put themselves into it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:33 AM
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> Men should start telling each other that they are strong and independent. Doing adult shit is not a reason to gloat and slap a medal on your chest. > They should find a woman only if she is able to value-add to his life. If a man is single for a long time (either because he couldn't or he didn't want to get into relationship) he will have more problems with getting one "now". And he cannot suddenly state "I have a value and am desirable" when woman will go "yeah, but you are single, no one wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:32 AM
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> Do it for yourself? I already have an ok life. Could it be "better" if i "improved" myself? Maybe. > I date someone that wants to make me happy and support me and I date someone I want to make happy and support. That's a transaction. You make them happy and they make you happy. If they suddenly stopped making you happy, would you still be willing to make them happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:22 AM
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Your flair suits your comment. What a wonderful world would that be
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:18 AM
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I, for once, saw they crying from both sides, so we can all say things are even in crying dept.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:16 AM
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Doing shit to make money IS A JOB. No matter how much you may like it at the beginning, it will become JOB after some time, unless you are ready to leave it, once it starts to suck
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 11:12 AM
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Using dating apps i went on 2 dates (would be 3 if i wasn't stood up :D). The 2 i've been with ghosted me immediately after the date (even tho they were saying they'd love to go on another date). Using "natural" way of just knowing people and asking the girl i find interesting out i got 0 dates and one awkward encounter. In contrast, dating apps were more positive. In context of my whole romantic life - terrible
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:13 AM
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Because not being 6ft or having chiseled jaw is not the same as not being the gender you are attracted to. Women on dating apps out themselves with their made up standards and delusions and i've seen it first-second hand
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 10:00 AM
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> man's boner test Did you just made up something to be angry about?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:54 AM
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Women hold almost limitless power in a ability to destroy men's life with one, "little" accusation. And unless said men have stone proofs of his innocence, he is going to jail. And even if he has said proofs, his social life is over, unless he moves far away.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:39 AM
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The problem is women were liberated from their gender norms (in context of dating), while men are still supposed to strictly follow theirs
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:36 AM
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They always treat sexual prowess in men with men being good person. It's almost satirical, when they scream about sexualizing women and treating them like objects, and then go and say sexist shit like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:32 AM
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> This is what causes people to be unhappy in relationships, you get a headache keeping up that facade That's true > Just be the best version of yourself. Might get fewer women that way, but you’ll get a real one for sure That's not true
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:26 AM
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"hey, i need to tell you something. I'm actually not stone cold arrogant (cOnFiDeNt) guy. I have my doubts and some problems with self esteem..." "OH MY GOD I WANT A DIVORCE YOU LYING PIECE OF SHIT!" Totally reasonable, you are right
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:24 AM
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> Some men also feel like they're trapped in a narrow box of desirable behaviors that is unsustainable to fulfill passed a certain stage in a relationship and their authentic self doesn't pass the threshold of attractiveness to many women in the initial dating phase. Truer words were never spoken. I know many different women, who seemingly have very different types. But they ALL still go for this one particular set of traits. And if you doesn't have them? Well, sucks to be you (or me, i guess XD…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:20 AM
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I am already and I don't care about never ending "just better yourself". I am an interesting person to myself, I am attractive to myself. My hobbies are mine and I love them, and I'm always the funny one in the crowd. I don't care anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 09:31 AM
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For the contrast - I tried "to be myself", meaning I just did not play any role. And it practically always ended with "I just don't feel it" or "there is no spark", or dreaded "oh, I see you only as a friend". Alright then. Cool
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 03:23 AM
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I can't imagine most women being attracted to "macho tough guys". Then you'd be surprised, I guess? That's a stereotype that is mocked and toxic masculinity is not considered cool. I thought so too. Guess it's just movked online Who wants to be around someone that is "stone cold"? Oh, many women. Relationships are supposed to be about warmth and affection. Agreed. They did not. Singing and dancing? Young people go to music festivals to do just that. Sure. To jump chaotic to some currently popula…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 03:18 AM
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The "I don't care about anything and anyone" stone coldness. The absolute absence of any doubt about anything happening at the given minute. The absolute confidence bordering on arrogance. The stereotypical macho tough guy. I slipped once and had a sudden panic attack (I still have no idea why exactly) and my then gf saw that. Guess what happened shortly after 😊 In reality I'm...just a guy. I am not self conscious to the point of anxiety, but I also am not a volcano of confidence. And I'm defini…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 02:51 AM
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I'm not overweight, nor am I addicted to video games. I sometimes play troll on reddit for shits and giggles. Funny you used "autistic" as an insult or something inherently bad. My "myself" is slightly shy, but not an introverted dude, with love for dancing, singing and vintage clothing. I'm quite a sensitive person and while I do like myself, I'm not a volcano of confidence, bordering with arrogance. And you know what? That's still not good enough of "myself". Because the only time girls consid…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 12:56 AM
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I rejected both, because, like I said, I am tired of putting on a show, and apparently I am not good enough 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 09:06 PM
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I'd love for blue pill "techniques" to work. I really would. But they don't. "Being myself", being vulnerable etc only led me to rejection after rejection, broken hearth and damaged trust. The red pill however, led me to losing my virginity, and actually getting with actual women. But faking is tiresome and I chose not to do it anymore. I'd rather be single than putting a show
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 08:56 PM
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And I know lots of decent men, who'd never hurt a woman. Does that mean there is no rape?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 07:58 AM
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That is also true
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 10:01 PM
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Agree. I sometimes forget the US does not have universal healthcare...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:23 PM
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As I'm not from the US, I can't speak specifically about US politics, but I'll trust you. In my country, the left hardly considers any problems of men (and they throw quotes like "someone has to die" in the context of war) Could you give any specific examples of the pro-men politics? I know you said about universal healthcare but it is not something specifically targeted towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:18 PM
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Yup. But they will hit the mark with some men, and they will stick to the right. I think it'd be better to address problems if at least some men, rather than none
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:03 PM
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> It's the same thing that the left does with minorities. Which makes it even funnier, when you think of it. They could literally just say "we hear you, men. We know you struggle and we promise to help you" and then do jackshit (as they do). But maybe some of these men would believe and go vote for them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:33 PM
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I don't know who Nick Fuentes is, but it's always amusing (well, not really) watching blue pillers jump through the hoops, to throw "virgin" as an insult towards men and then scream, how sexual encounters are not an indicator of anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:17 PM
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Would be really nice if one could be their true self around women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:12 PM
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The "right" might talk about it, but only that - talk. And not talk to solve, but talk to talk (and use as one-upping the "left")
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:07 PM
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Lol no Many of them don't even recognize that young men have any problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 02:06 PM
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I literally wrote it down in next comment - i've had such "friend" (more than two actually, but i just wrote about her)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 09:11 AM
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No, I merely suggested they should change the way they run their campaign. There is a reason they lost votes, compared to previous elections. These people didn't suddenly convert to maga. They did not vote at all. Values are not the problem. The way they run the campaign is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:35 PM
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What are you talking about? I think we agree Trump is a deranged and evil nut job, who should be put in jail, not in the White House. At least I hope we agree on that. What you seem to disagree on is...that dems should win? Or that they should try to actually run a successful campaign? I don't know. You don't have to agree with me on that, sure. I just think it's weird
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:27 PM
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Right. There you go. You would rather antagonize than try to have a talk. Even with someone on your side
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:12 PM
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I get that, but why would they run to you? And to whom specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:37 PM
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It's funny, because I'm not from the US and if I was I would definitely vote for Harris/Waltz
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:37 PM
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Akhually It's because dems apparently don't know how to run for elections
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:36 PM
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I can see why Dems lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:28 PM
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Cool. So you'll keep losing then. Great strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:26 PM
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From what I understood, some of them voted against Harris (as stupid as it was). Wouldn't you want for Democrats to come up with some viable arguments to convince them to vote for Dem candidate?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:25 PM
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Why? Because I won't stroke your ego and have the audacity to disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:19 PM
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So...you don't want them on "your side"? Sound kind of stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:17 PM
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Yeah, I also just now looked who's the OP. Nevermind
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 05:02 PM
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*shows some twat bothering random people, and tries to own them by "rejection" "Oh I bEt YoU tHiNk hE dInDu NuTtIn" Why do y'all make up fake scenarios, when there are actually real problems in the world? This is some kind of IG channel, which tries to farm views.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 04:59 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 03:15 PM
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I've had. I did it first time, because i thought it will be reciprocrated (today i paid, next time you'll pay - i have some friends with whom i do that, so no problem) I did it second time, because she had very messy and weird breakup (i did not try to get to her panties or whatever) and i thought i'll be a good fella. Third time she almost literally said i should keep paying, because that's what men should do. Dropped her right there and then I also know a different girl who had similar line of…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 12:28 PM
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But aren't we supposed to be friends? So can i drop the "friendship" when its terms don't suit me, or am an incel/mysogynistic asshole for it. Make up your mind. I am taking accountability for my actions - girl is expecting boyfriend treatment, without giving girlfriend treatment? To the trash, thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:49 AM
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These are literally all the places, where women will explicitly state to "not approach", lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:42 AM
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Dating isn't fair. Period. Everybody should be able to have any standards they want
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:40 AM
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Helping move is friends...untill you are the one needing help with something and suddenly "they are not your gf, why should i help you?" Hanging out is friends....untill you are the one pressured to always pay for drinks in club/bar, because it's a men's job If you see men as your personal atm's, drivers and workers you are not a friend. You are just entitled asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:39 AM
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Riiiight. We are supposed to pay for everything, drive her everywhere, always be there, when her fuckbuddy decided he want to fuck another one blah blah blah, and she doesn't give a shit about your problems, because fuckbuddy just got back and is ready for round two. I'll be friends with people who are also acting like friends. Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:31 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 10:03 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 09:50 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 09:27 AM
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Nah I like that people have choice. Someone could say that many men don't really have a choice now (and i agree) but i don't think forcing someone to relationship or sex is an answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 08:57 AM
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It's always sad, when someone goes too deep into some shit, be it red pill, blue pill, black pill or any other cultlike "structure". I feel sorry for you
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 10:00 AM
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I think you should lay off these podcast for real. If you already did - good for you. I sway towards red pill, but dudes like FnF or Tate are super cringy and toxic to me, even if sometimes i do agree with them
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 09:39 AM
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But what attitude are you talking about? What views? As far as I know, red pill does not push men to cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 08:32 AM
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Or is total toxic abuser/stalker (but he is still 6'6 ceo, so it's fine)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 10:04 AM
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Women do it to imaginary picture of non-existent men (probably plucked straight from their pornographic novels). Then they get angry real life men are not these imaginary beings and try to gaslight us because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:53 AM
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I skewed towards red pill not because of podcasts, tiktoks or ig reels. I did it, because i saw how girls acted towards me, my friends and other men. Ever since middle school. Does that mean i hate women? No. But i am vary of them to some extent
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:25 AM
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Right? They definitely DO NOT leave you, because you actually tried to be vulnerable with them, they DO NOT shame you for anything. No no, it's all lies nade up by our true God Andrew Tate
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 09:03 AM
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I do not And it was a dig at all the "kill all men" and "all men are bad" bullshit blue pillers like to spout. Nevertheless, it would be quite funny, if all men suddenly lost all their interest in women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 09:04 AM
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Nope. Reject ALL women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:52 AM
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Which "female"? My OLD profile has been redacted by various women of different taste, age, profession etc. It was always "It's very good. You could maybe add "insert some kind of picture (one picture)" and it will be golden. I honestly don't know why are you not getting matches" Plus, ocassionally, them giving very conflicting advices
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 02:48 PM
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I thought dancing will be an attractive hobby. Guess not *dances away*
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:02 PM
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"Video games are attractive hobby" when you are the Henry Cavill type of gamer
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 02:01 PM
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It's funny, because i, for example, can't enter relationship with women i've been friends with :V
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 09:54 AM
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I can be friends with women. Pretty or not (to me). Sure, if i'm single and meet new girl, who is attractive and has the personality i could go for in romantic setting, then i'd probably think of her as potential partner (but that does not mean we can't become friends, if the romantic intent does not work for any reason). However, once we are friends (after failed romantic approach or "just" because we started as friends) we won't become lovers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 09:39 AM
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In my case, it depends on what "attracted to" means: Do i think she is just pretty (but does not have something i look for in potential romantic partner)? No problem! Is she the seemingly perfect girl, with looks and traits that are must have for my potential romantic partner? May be a bit rocky.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 09:29 AM
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It's an anecdotal, but my ex-gf appeared as she hates clubs. She claimed she never went to one, because she hate such places. One and half year into our relationship, she suddenly loves going to clubs, getting attention from men (she literally told me this. Like straight up told me it'soooo nice when guys buys her drinks, dance with her etc). So it's not always the "you knew what she was like before"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 10:01 AM
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I got a bit entangled in my comments. Of course foreplay does not lube anus. Meant it generally
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 07:35 PM
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Foreplay lubes the hole. Never really needed to use lube
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 03:56 AM
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The majority of couples in this world are evenly matched in terms of looks and socioeconomic status Correct. But as a society, we (mostly women) still would still describe the women to be the "better half", to be prettier and better. Even if they are in the same level
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 10:41 PM
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I mean, apps weren't my only means of trying to meet girls. In fact, my current hobby is a byproduct of me, trying to enter something, where a lot of people (girls) are - swing dancing. But no luck there also. At least I came to love dancing tho!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:45 PM
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I don't know your intentions with this comment, but I'll just say I'm a little bit happier now, when I came to peace with myself. If others want to still play the game - go for it. Maybe they'll be lucky ones
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:17 PM
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After some time, I decided to adapt the "careful" strategy. I'd swipe right only if: - she had bio - it was interesting and informative - her pictures were attractive to me (no, I don't mean 10/10 IG model) 3 months of not even 1 match. I deleted apps and decided to fuck the dating game
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:34 PM
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I don't think that, but I also don't think you should feel entitled to do/ask anything of your partner, so maybe that's why I can't understand that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 09:13 AM
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I know, but the counterargument is always "no lube and foreplay". That was my "issue".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 09:11 AM
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I was lucky to lose my virginity, and if I'd say I was one, she would never become my gf. She learned that after some time and I could see the bit of disgust on her face. It was one of the many red flags in her I should see, but I was a desperate guy, so I stayed
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 09:09 AM
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I get what you are trying to convey, but true or not, it's the men's fault. The men, who agree to be in such a relationship, despite being mistreated or something. You don't like it? Just leave. I know women have much more choice in terms of available men, but it's better to be single, than in unhappy relationships - I know that very well. Also, I'd say it'd be better to use sex vs sex analogy He always tried to give his partner an orgasm. He had A game with tongue. But now he is with "you" he j…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 09:00 AM
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As long as you think about something nice for him. Which is usually not the case
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 08:51 AM
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Of course one can't demand anything from the other side
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 08:49 AM
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No, why is it always "no lube and foreplay"? Why are you so terrible in bed and don't do foreplay or use lube (if needed).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 08:49 AM
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Why is it always "without lube and foreplay"? Are you so terrible in bed you can't even do proper foreplay together? Also Should first shove a dildo up their ass What if one did it and liked it? Can he now ask his partner? /S
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 08:42 AM
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A1. Because, on general, woman want partners equal or better than them A2. Because, on general, woman want partners equal or better than them A3. Because, on general, woman want partners equal or better than them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:36 PM
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I think, when guys say "women should lower their standards", it's not literally "lower them" but rather "should have lower" to begin with (i don't know if you get what i'm saying?). Even tho i sometimes think, that some people should just lower their standard (me included), but then - just like you said - they would pair up with people they would not desire in the lob run, which would turn the relationship bitter. But even given that, there is always this "discussion" in air about general standa…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:17 PM
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This the worst and the best advice
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 02:01 PM
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Nah, go for it. I started dancing as a way to meet girls, actually. But somewhere down the road i fell in love with it (swing dancing) and now i really don't care if it brings girls or not. I just want to do crazy swing-outs
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 01:49 PM
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Yes. Two. Hair transplant - I'm bald and kind of okay with it (okay enough to not spend fuckton of money for it), but for free or done pennies? Sure thing Second one is about chest
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 09:04 AM
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Mate, I am a dancer, and still have problems finding girl 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 08:10 AM
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The notion is not "most women don't LOVE most men". It's "most women don't find most men attractive"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 08:17 PM
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I don't know. Bad luck? Maybe Or do I just have a face that is not attractive enough? Could be. It's not like I'm hideous, but I don't have to be everybody's cup of tea, and maybe I'm yet to meet someone whose cup I am. I also dress nicely, but not fashionable and trendy at all, so that could also be in play (but I like my style and won't change for no one)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 08:00 PM
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Just like treating ALL men as potential rapists or murderers. It may be unfair, i agree. But why these men should put their career (and with that possibly life) in risk over someone they do not know?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 02:33 PM
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He's wearing glasses? Instant ICK He said "hi" instead 12 page document, stating i'm the most wonderful person in whole universe? Instant ICK He likes to wear tie? Instant ICK so on and so on There are multiple weird "standards" where guys are being rejected for something so god damn trivial it's hilarious. I was rejected by three girls, because my glasses look like old man glasses. Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 10:57 AM
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Option 2 would be healthy if you'd take women out of it at all. Improve yourself for YOURSELF. So you easier life, so you feel fullfillment. Not to appease to some girl. Because once every guy improves, the bar moves up and we are at the beginning again
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 10:45 AM
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What are you? Some kind of incel? Not wanting to shame men and shit /s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 10:37 AM
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I can't believe i agree with a blue piller on something. Feels weird /s Female attraction, in my humble opinion, is both at the same time. They are, in general, attracted to same list of qualities, but the amount/force of these is relative. Confident, "good looking" and wealthy guy is always attractive. But if 10 guys are confident, good looking and wealthy, but 11th is MORE, then the 11th is more attractive. (inb4 "well, those 10 guys will also "find" someone" - sure, but they will be back up p…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 10:34 AM
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What i fear is that as i become better and better version of myself, i'll also become more bitter and resentful.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 10:23 AM
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That just proves the "women's standards are too high" I too have quite a few of female friends or acquaintances, who goes "i can't find any guy" but their inboxes are full of seemingly good guys. I know, because i saw the messages and profiles. Normal looking dudes, with normal jobs, interests and whatnots. But there is always "Yeah, but he is short", "Yeah, but i don't like his glasses", "Yeah, but i don't know, i just do feel it". They don't even try sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 10:22 AM
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I think it could happen suddenly. As a "regular" dude, you may go for "regular" girls, because that's your equivalent. But now you have sixpack, over-average body, high paid job and realize you should go for your equivalent again
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 10:05 AM
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Do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 10:01 AM
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Nah, you wouldn't. East and central europe is being more and more influenced by west. It slowly becomes a mix of "eastern" and "western" standards for man. Many woman (even the ones you'd deem super kind and great) are adopting the "american" stance while demanding more and more from guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 09:13 AM
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Exactly this! I am healthy weight, average height guy, with stable job (with possibility of improvement). I dress clean, i keep my hygiene to great level. I have somewhat big social circle (which means i am likeable and safe person). I have my hobbies and interests (which are, quite ironically, more women dominated). I'm open and in check with my emotions (or at least i try to be, for my own sake). But, apparently, that's not enough. I don't demand women to love me, or expect to have flock of gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 09:07 AM
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All of my crushes were on girls i knew, i interacted with and i found something hugely interesting and magnetic. The way they talked about their hobby, the way they smiled, laughed or danced. There were few instances, where i would find a girl ONLY physically attractive, but she (or they) was not a crush. Just a person i find attractive (but maybe not even like). Now, i already came to the conclusion, that i am and will be unattractive to most women i meet, so i made my peace with that. Just wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 08:47 AM
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Yeah, no. Women are definitely not more natural born leaders. Some of them may be, sure. But not in general
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:49 AM
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I mean, if they would actually give helpful advice, I'd be sitting front row, doing notes and shit
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 07:41 AM
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It does not have to be something literally said out loud. It can be her behavior. I saw how my ex gf looked at a friend of her friend, when she first saw him. If they were alone there, she would probably suck him off right there and then. She never looked at me that way, because, as I learned, i wasn't what she really wanted, but I was what she could get.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:44 PM
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Following this example Let's say she always remembers your birthdays and gives you a card every year. But after some time you learned she was giving her ex bf super expensive and fun gifts (and she still has funds for that). She is showing some investment and care in your relationship, right? But now you know she did way more in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 02:16 PM
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No, because the meaning of words and phrases evolve, and acting like "safe option" is actually a positive term is just that - acting
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:52 PM
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Earn it how?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 01:08 PM
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I mean, the filter is obviously more complicated, than just "likes to swing dance". She has to be attracted to me also 😆 (and be single and around my age). Because, theoretically, I know quite a lot of women, who like swing dance, given that I belong to one of the biggest Swing communities in my country.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:37 PM
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I did that. I'd swipe right only on profiles with full description/bio and only the ones I really liked. No single match for 3 months, since last one. I quit apps almost a year ago
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 02:18 PM
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BUT THAT'S LITERALLY THE MEANING OF "SAFE OPTION" It's not "safe in terms of not dangerous lunatics". It's the guy you enter a relationship with, because your primary choice didn't want the LTR (with you or at all). It's the guy you maybe chose at first, but then "someone better" showed up, you burned yourself on this "someone better" and now you went back to the first guy (but you will leave him for the next "better"). It's the guy you would ignore completely, when you've had a line of hot guys…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 01:02 PM
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Let's say both 1) He literally told you he is only with you, because he likes your cooking. But as soon as a better option would show up, he would leave you 2) You know he can be enthusiastic and romantic and whatever you would like a man to be. You saw him being this with other girls, but after some time they rejected him for the long term, so he came to you, and now he is nothing like that. But I guess he likes your food
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 12:44 PM
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You do realize we are talking about dating and relationships, not car insurance, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 12:39 PM
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That's what esentially the "safe option" is. I gave cooking as an example. We are discussing the notion of guys being labeled as "safe options", meaning they are not desirable, but stable enough for what she can get right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 12:10 PM
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Let me lay my head on your lap and tell me how much I mean to you. That's all
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 11:56 AM
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Gurl, my hobby is dancing (not "bouncing in the club"), going from thrift store to thrift store (to buy or just to watch) and vintage fashion. I'm yet to meet a girl that likes those things. Another one is motorcycles (I'm customizing one currently) but I guess I "chose" the wrong type of bike, so that's on me
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 11:54 AM
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Damn, the only honest comment from woman here
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 11:40 AM
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You don't want to be desired by your partner? "She cooks okay, so I guess I'll be with her"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 11:32 AM
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So we should maybe take women's voting rights away? /s I don't see men saying "young men (20-29) are stupid, naive and immature". I only see women saying that about other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 10:59 AM
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First: Why do you always present women as these immature, stupid and naive creatures, not capable of critical thinking? Second: I want women to choose me, when I'm actively pursuing her. I meet a girl, I show her interest. This is the place, where I want her to reciprocate the interest. If she decides she can do better, and tries to string me along, just so she can go back to me after her "better" was done with her - that's the meaning of "safe choice". And that's shitty behavior. Real life exam…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 10:48 AM
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There were more than one like that. We did not start as a couple or show any romantic intent to each other with any of them but one. But they still behaved like that. Yes, I did cut any ties with them and now I am much more wary about any female acquaintance I have (I was already super stressed out about any contact with girls, due to my childhood, so it fucked me up even more)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 12:43 AM
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Not a sub op, but in my case they expected me to pay every time we went out one on one (in clearly friends only manner), be their therapist (without caring about my life), be on their every whim, actually NOT pursuing any other woman (?!)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/24 12:09 AM
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They don't have to Some do, but only the most handsome guys
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 03:05 PM
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The maturity of OP is one thing, but you CAN'T fully seriously tell me this sub is even a little bit mature. The topics (from every side/pill) are mostly ridiculous, hilarious and over colorized misconceptions and thing heard on the internet, twisted into some pseudo intellectual "debate"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:25 PM
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I've heard about size queens only on the internet. Never seen the "magic pussy" thing tho. I also do not listen to any fem rapper, so I wouldn't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:20 PM
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Then I think you need to reevaluate who you surround yourself with, because even the most open and kinky people I know never touched such subject
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:16 PM
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Never in a history of humanity, anybody said such a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:08 PM
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I think it started when Jack did not like how Kyle wished (during the Tenacious D concert) the shooter did not miss Trump? I don't know much more, but from what I've seen in SM, JB is no longer super charismatic and funny dude, but rather fat and disgusting creep (actual words, written by actual women )
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 11:58 PM
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Oh, haven't you heard? We are supposed to hate Jack Black now
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 11:55 PM
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They will. Not directly. But they will and that's that. You may not believe in this, but everything is a fucking shit test You build initial confidence, and ability to be relaxed in different groups early in your life. Awkward 15 year old Steve is an awkward kid, awkward 30 year old Steve is a bit creepy, because why is he never speaking? If you want to enter a romantic relationship, you have to show romantic intent. You have to know HOW to do it. I talk to people every day. I still am awkward a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 11:54 PM
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"your stereotypical" manager or team lead is a weasel, who does not know a fuck all about their team's job and got the position by kissing ass. They treat them like garbage and will fire you in a matter of seconds (unless you are protected by worker's laws - then they will spun the tale about your weak working ethics etc and put you on leave). But I agree - one can be confident without being an asshole or criminal
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 11:41 PM
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There are exceptions, no doubt. And Italy is a very fashionable country, but they tend to go too extreme with skinny fit and over-ankle look sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 11:31 PM
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I guess you can take such a route. But I disagree with "most women aren't going to press super hard about ex's...". Most will. Maybe not directly. But they will You absolutely do need experience and social skills. What you gonna do? Go to a party, walk up to a group of girls and just stand there? Doing nothing or acting awkward and nervous? Older people are rarely more mature, they just try to act like it, but that's another story.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 11:22 PM
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Close. I'm from Poland (unless you don't recognize this part as central Europe, so then Eastern would be correct :V ) But nevermind that - I'm not only talking about women in my country, but online too. I like fashion and I follow many fashion oriented pages,people, brands etc. I spend way too much on Pinterest, looking at different outfits etc and because of that, I get tons of recommended shorts/IG reels with woman giving dressing advices. And they are ALWAYS of 3 kinds 1. The most basic (and …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 11:14 PM
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If I'd become super desirable to women right now (without any change to the past whatsoever), I'd most probably be the same as I am now - boring dude, going about his hobbies. Maybe a little more petty, rejecting all of those woman
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 11:03 PM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 11:00 PM
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Lie will always show itself. You'll get caught on small differences in your stories. Also, I don't think starting a relationship with a lie is a good idea (been there, done that - terrible mistake).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 10:59 PM
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Because you are behind most people (and as a guy, you sure are behind 99% of women you will find attractive) in socializing. Sure you can try to learn it later, and you may even successfully do it. Congratulations, you are now a 25-30 year old guy, maaaaybe having your first gf. Ask women how they feel about such a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 10:53 PM
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Because most of them can't dress well themselves. They'll either follow current trends or throw oversized hoodie with vans and call it a "fit". But even if we ignore that - as with dating advice, they will tell you what looks good on men they ALREADY find attractive. For example a "clean black t-shirt with fitting jeans" will be a "great fit" on a handsome guy, and "sloppy and basic" on a regular dude. Or "fitted" shirt (meaning super slim and tight) on a muscular guy will (which still looks awf…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 10:00 PM
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Brother, never ask women for fashion advice. Almost as terrible, as their dating advice (and dishonest too)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 08:15 PM
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Not a RPiller, but I do believe it's important, and nothing really could replace it later. If you won't develop certain social skills early in your life, and use them successfully, you'll struggle later. I'm the example of this. And not only me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 05:03 PM
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Okay, that makes more sense
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 02:20 PM
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I don't understand what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 02:06 PM
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I personally know 3 girls (not much, I agree) who had anal with their hook ups (yes, they told me that, as much as unbelievable this sounds - alcohol was involved, no pushing or forcing from my side, they just started talking), but would never do that in relationship, because "it's humiliating".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 09:35 AM
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Meh, almost all MILF porn is hilariously big, fake boobs and lips taking up half of the screen, doing it with a 12 year old looking kid, so not really appealing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 10:31 AM
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I'm 27. The lowest I could go for is probably 23-24? The highest would be 28. I know some women in their early thirties, who I could swore are much younger (by the looks), but most of them would probably (few told that outright) think of me as a kid, not a man, so I wouldn't even bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 10:25 AM
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Sooo....become a sexless work ant?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 08:37 AM
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Can't remember the last time I hit my partner. Or cheated. Or played some mind games.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 02:33 PM
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So no quotas/dei hiring/pushing for more women in stems?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 09:32 AM
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I'm not a red piller, but I would never consider a red pill as a way to punish women. More like a way to centralize yourself and focus solely on you (in terms of romantic/sexual relationship).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 09:07 AM
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Your term "Wild Years" sounds like the natural evolution through your 20s and into mid life. You don't actually know what you like and what you want when you're 24. "Ayo, I'm a 22 year old girl and don't know what I really want, so I will date this obviously abusive asshole, because he is cute. After I realize that abusive asshole is in fact abusive, I'll date a couple more, and then finally give a chance to this seemingly boring (because he is not inciting drama every other day) guy" I'll pass
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 09:05 AM
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I thought that being a kind, helpful and open person (on top of other things) would at least put me in the "considered" list, but I learned quickly it is not the case. I still try to be kind and helpful, because I like being that, but I am now aware that makes me more unattractive. Still feel good to help someone
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 09:00 AM
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Also, according to reddit, I'm not worthy of being in a relationship, because I don't have a net worth of 6 figures, am not in peak human shape, don't allow my hypothetical girlfriend to cheat on me and dare to not want to date someone promiscuous (to me)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 07:19 AM
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Handsome and awkward is cute Ugly/average and awkward is creepy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 09:42 AM
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There's also Wade Wilson and that kid who raced his friend and killed a woman a few years back
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 08:17 AM
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Swing dancing (yes, hehe swing hehe)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 07:00 PM
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I'm part of a big dancing community. I think I'm liked? But right now, I'd never try to date any of the girls there. Don't want to risk losing first thing I actually love doing
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 04:21 PM
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"here's the soup, and here's the dick" 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 04:18 PM
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"this does not suit my narrative, so it must be fake" A similar thing happened to me. Was at a karaoke bar, sang a song and one girl JOINED me. After the song, when she returned to her seat, I approached her and all I managed to say was "Hi! I'm..." when she silenced me with a raised hand and told me to "go away, creep". I was a little baffled, but I said sorry and returned to my table. After about 10 minutes, the bouncer walked up and told me I have to leave, because someone told them I was har…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/24 03:12 PM
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Well then, she could communicate that also.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:45 PM
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That's correct
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 04:32 PM
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My most recent sex partner would lay on her back almost not moving, quiet and all and suddenly would explode in orgasm. If I was to only read her body language and expression, I'd probably stop half way, thinking she does not like it. But she was a grown up and told me straight, that she loves the cunnilingus done in such and such a way only, and to not sway from this method. So I knew what and how she liked and could give her multiple orgasms every time we had sex. My previous sex partner thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 02:07 PM
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Have I mentioned how one dimensional you are? So I can start from there. If I know this twists her legs, then maybe doing it a bit differently will also be as pleasurable? Or maybe if she likes the tongue this way, then doing it in a different body position gives more room and now she's shaking more than ever. If my face is buried between her legs I can't exactly see her face, can I? And if she is the quiet type, she won't be screaming over my ears for me to know if she actually likes it, or if …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 01:49 PM
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Oh my gawd y'all are so one dimensional. Say guy can't, for the love of all unholy, find the one spot that hit you best. He's trying his best, but he just can't. You know where it is, you know how to hit it, but you won't tell him, because "step by step" instructions are boring? Sure learning and discovering together is nice. But I want to give my partner the best time I can, so if she knows what exactly makes her legs twist, then id rather have her tell me, than "oh, but it will be boring. Find…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 01:37 PM
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See what?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 01:27 PM
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Paying attention is one thing, but verbal communication is also important and helpful. You can do both
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 01:24 PM
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I don't know, never been with asian girl
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 01:19 PM
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It's fun if both parties are active. I've had sex with girls who were just laying and honestly I would rather jack off. But my biggest "problem" is the lack of communication from them. Me: so, what do you like in bed Her: I don't know Me: do you like it when I'm doing it like that? Her: I don't know Me: you prefer the tongue or fingers? Her: I don't know ..............😶
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 12:55 PM
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Yup, exactly - just an anecdote, but it was my experience and it taught me something Now, to not sound like a hater - women give best advice when you already ARE IN relationship. Why you gf might be mad, or what should you do in such and such case
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 10:16 AM
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Oh, but I never said all men do know what women like. Men who are successful sure do My experience with the red pill is that it sometimes works, and sometimes it does not. Not every red pill dude is unsuccessful in dating, just like not every non red pill (or blue pill) dude is successful. The obvious thing is what works for one, won't always work for the other, but in case of advice from women - well, they never did work in my case (and I am not some hideous, repulsive ogre).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 10:08 AM
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No, they don't. They know what they themselves like. And only when it's done by ALREADY attractive in their eyes guy. Like I said, I've asked numerous women for help, when I had a dating profile, and none of their advice helped. If they were not contradicting each other with photo choice, they were with bio.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/24 09:32 AM
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Doesn't mean they are compatible. People stay in dead marriages or just settle and play along too
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:46 PM
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Because most people won't be compatible with anybody, especially nowadays, when every single thing gives an ick, and the whole relationship can be "destroyed" by some stupid shit
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:39 PM
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Yup, I just deleted all apps and live in peace, doing my things
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:36 PM
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No, it won't resolve shit. Women already receive thousands of likes, so no need for any reviewing. On the other hand, women's perspective won't do a squat for a man's old profile, because she does not know how to attract other women. She will be working with what she finds attractive (when done by already attractive to her man, not her male friend or rando from the internet).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:35 PM
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I actually think it's a lot of BS, because you have countless evidence of how women react to attractive, shirtless guys. I've seen profiles of my male friends, I've seen profiles showing up to my female friends, I've seen countless profiles of guys on the internet. 90% have photos you described as the good ones. And they still have a problem with OLD. I've also seen my female friends matches - spoiler alert, most of them were shirtless dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:32 PM
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My profile was edited multiple times, by multiple women with different backgrounds, styles, vibes etc. Different photos, bios, format - all of it. Did not help even the slightest
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 10:25 PM
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I'm gonna blame everybody, who perpetuates this notion - men, women and everybody in between (because I saw it from all of the sides)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 01:32 PM
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But my hypocrisy is that I think that too, just about myself
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 09:12 AM
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I'm not saying you HAVE TO have those things. I'm saying people online say men have to have those things
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 08:35 AM
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It's half serious half joking, but in my opinion (and experience), unless you are (as a dude) attractive and have mainstream demeanor, then you are good to go. But if you have something unusual about yourself, then either you have to hide it and pretend, or pray to every single god you'll find a girl who honestly likes it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:34 AM
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With guys it's always -you have to be in the peak shape -have 6 number income -a house -a car -always be free -have the ability to read minds Just so they could start thinking about dating And woman...just has to be
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:13 AM
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But it's the whole point of dating. You have to trick the other person into liking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 07:10 AM
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Maybe. But I'm also not a one dimensional stereotypical małe. One of my hobbies and favorite topics to talk about is fashion (granted it's mostly classic menswear and work wear), but I love to listen about women's fashion. Other than that, I'm really open to talk about everything, and all my friends know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 06:47 PM
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Then maybe fat and ugly girls should look for a companion among fat and ugly guys, just as we are constantly told by women (to lower our standards)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 10:22 AM
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As a woman you have to 1) not be obese 2) show you care about your partner That's it. And sometimes the first point is not needed, because there are guys who like bigger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 10:20 AM
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Aren't women supposed to be these perfect and virtuous creatures, with emotional intelligence etc? /s Probably because men are usually blamed for being ghosted by women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:41 AM
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Nevertheless, the point stands - if she is trying to take your pants off, she is quite enthusiastically giving a consent
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:41 PM
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It was a sarcastic response. Guess I should add /s at the end of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:40 PM
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I agree. That's why I always assume she does not want to. Better safe than sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 11:09 PM
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If she is trying to take your pants off, then I'd say she is enthusiastic enough
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:10 PM
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Neutral sex is still unwanted. Unless a woman enthusiastically initiates the sex, it's always unwanted
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 07:07 PM
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Nope. You ghost me, you lost any chance
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:36 PM
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Honestly? There was a time where I did not have any female friend and it was not any different than it is now (when I do have them)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:32 PM
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I'm friends with people, because I like them. Men or women. Having said that - not a single female friend tried to introduce me to any of their friends. Why? I don't know. If they like me then I guess I am a likeable guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:27 PM
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She moved out of the country (got an amazing job offer). It wasn't a long relationship, and I didn't want to leave my country (or even my city, for now at least), so we decided to break it off. Still in contact and on good terms
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 12:58 PM
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And such people are in minority
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 12:13 PM
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And again - 99% of women also think men are repellant. With porn these men are able to relieve themselves and look at naked women. Sure it would be swell to not feel horny, but it's not that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:39 AM
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Because someone wants to jerk off to it. Simple. Nothing embarrassing about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:37 AM
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Five in my case and only one was REALLY attracted to me from the get go. And the difference is HUGE. I could literally feel her undressing me with her eyes every time she looked at me
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:02 AM
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I want to be attractive from the start. If you are not attracted to me, you are not - simple
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 10:00 AM
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You took the "visceral attraction" to the extreme. No one is expecting the other person to run up to them and rip their clothes. As a man, I'd just like to know I am attractive to a woman and she also wants me. Not "building attraction" slowly and strategically.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 09:57 AM
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Depends on what you consider "normal"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 09:54 AM
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Not defending porn, but 99% of women wouldn't pour a drink on me (or any other guy) if we were on fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 07:59 AM
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I have a lot of male acquaintances, and a couple of friends. The ratio of single vs taken is around 50/50 I do. And female acquaintances. Probably less than male, but not noticeably. Yes Not at all. I'm more introverted than not, but don't really have a problem finding myself in a group and getting to know new people My platonic social life is quite alright. Sure, I could try to do more things, but I don't really want to. I already feel a little bit tired and overwhelmed with a few groups of fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 08:41 PM
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But you do need her at some capacity, if you wanted her SPECIFICALLY. If you did not really need HER, you would be content with any woman giving you presence, support etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:17 PM
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Cool. But that means you NEED the steak and lobster to keep your happiness level.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:14 PM
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If I'm content with mash potatoes or noodles, then no, I wouldn't want steak and lobster 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:09 PM
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Yeah, but if I am content with my life right now, not needing a partner I will not enter the relationship, because I have everything I need and want. Why are you in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:28 PM
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It would be the most hilariously sad thing ever. Imagine every single man somehow lost (or overcome) their sex drive completely. Now they focus solely on themselves, not caring about women and their needs and wants. No manipulation from women, no jumping over hoops just so she would look at them. Just a bunch of dudes doing what they want and what makes THEM happy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 01:08 PM
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But why even enter a relationship if you don't actually need/want one? I doubt there is actually a woman, who would win with men's peace and happiness. Men that are not needy, do not...well, need women and relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 12:58 PM
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Ironically I think if men enjoyed being single they would become more confident [...] actually increasing the odds of finding someone And, ironically, they wouldn't need anybody and probably remain single.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 12:44 PM
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And if "your niche" is not bringing money, you either switch to what does, or quit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 12:32 PM
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I love dancing. I mainly dance Lindy hop and other swing styles, but I like to occasionally go to some more reputable clubs and dance to modern music. And let me tell you - YOU DON'T APPROACH GIRLS THERE. Most of them will just ignore you, some will act like you are sick. The ladies are there and they want to be left alone
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 11:38 AM
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This is the "reasonable" and "kind" blue pill for you. I tried to go more on their side, but after hearing I'm probably a disgusting, perverted, horrible, unwashed and whatever else you can think of, just because I said it's hard for me to get a date, I decided to stay the fucking away from them. It's quite funny, that the red pill is considered the "horrible" pill out of two, when in fact, with the red pill you just have to separate the misogynistic people from the rest and just focus on yourse…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 02:16 AM
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I'm not from the US, so our "bad boys" are quite different types (well, honestly it's the same core, but with a Slavic vibe). The jocks were dudes who "peaked" in school physically, played football/soccer or volleyball and were tall. Bad boys were your typical slav squatting dudes with cig in mouth, beating younger kids, because their mum did not love them enough. And I understand the appeal of the first group. I don't however understand the appeal of the second, but it is visible even in adult …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 01:43 PM
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In my school, the "unpopular" girls WERE fat, smelly and really ugly. Rest of them were popular by default. And flocked to one band of athlete dudes or dated guys 10 years older.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 01:36 PM
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In my school it was: athletes date one half of the girls in school, illiterate "bad boys" dated the other. The rest of us could go and fuck our hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 01:29 PM
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It is brought by having eyes and seeing what a lot of girls react to And yeah, let's pretend people do not start to build their social skills, confidence, circles and views in their early teens. And observations made in middle or high school play in college too. And then in adult life. Do you have to be an asshole to get a girlfriend? No. Would it help you? Probably. And I am not a red piller, so you missed here
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 01:26 PM
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They do not have to bully you. I've had a "friend" who was quite cool towards me, but was an asshole towards some other kids. And yes, MOST of the kids in school are not full on drug-abusing, head smashing punks, buuuuut, most of them kids are also not in relationships. I can say, with all honesty, that in my middle and high school, guys who had girls fawning over them were assholes. More or less. To me, to others, to those girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 12:57 PM
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Not being compatible means you react to different things, and that one side settled (or tried to settle). It doesn't even have to be the bad way of settling. In my case, she settled (in her mind), because I was available (we met during the peak of COVID), I was eager. It wasn't that she preferred one thing and I did another, because I was eager to try almost everything. But when she met a guy, she truly was attracted to, it was visible.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 12:09 PM
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Well...yeah. Being settled for usually (if not always) ends up with shitty relationship. If the girl is super excited to see you, wants to initiate things (not only sex, but dates and other activities), is not embarrassed to "show you off" to her friends etc etc, then I'd say she did not settle for you, even if you are her 4th oartner
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:45 AM
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I'd say it's pretty obvious, when you are the one she settled for. Especially if you see her being excited for anything (or anybody) For example my ex-gf: When we met (first online, not via app, but mutual friend), and took the relationship down the romantic/sexual way, I thought she DID WANT me. It was a long distance, but short enough for us to visit each other every week or two for the weekend. And every time we saw each other, we did have sex (always initiated by me tho). One time, we were o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:29 AM
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"i just saw this guy beating this younger guy for no reason, but maybe he really is a wonderful and kind person" "Well, maybe he called me a slur because I don't like playing sports, but I'm sure he is such a good guy" "This guy, who is trying to pass 12th grade for the 3rd time, but he actually never comes to school and I see him selling drugs everyday is definitely a kind dude" Take your head out of your ass and live in reality, my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:12 AM
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If I watch porn, I watch it to look at a pretty girl, having sex in positions I like. But I never imagined myself doing it with HER (that's why I don't like POV porn, for example). To me, porn is kind of like an action movie (the fantastical kind). Nice to see on screen, but I probably wouldn't want to try it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 10:39 AM
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Why do people always think watching porn means imagining having sex with actors?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 10:06 AM
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First of all, I am not addicted to porn, thank you. Second - I also can say I'm poor, but I don't go around, showing my asshole or letting a bunch of dudes gang bang me. I go to work Third - I don't enjoy fictional rape, so do not spew fake shit about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 02:17 PM
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Women being gang raped? She is playing a role in a movie production. You do know pirn is not reality, right? Or you can't tell fiction from reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 02:03 PM
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Oh no, I don't think it's okay to imagine other people at all. I just think masturbating to an imaginary picture of your partner, doing things she/he doesn't want to is also bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 01:26 PM
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Yes, that's why I said "from my own experience". I don't know the data and don't care about them. I care about what I witnessed in my life, and what I witnessed were girls being cruel to me 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 12:57 PM
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Not in my experience 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 12:45 PM
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But then you are creating your own porn, which can be even more fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 12:44 PM
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So you just stare into void, while beating yo meat, mashing your beanie?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 09:47 AM
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Yeah, doing things you don't want to do
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 09:46 AM
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I am afraid of being treated as a creep and vile person (which I was treated like in my school years). I'm afraid she might even be nice on a surface but then turn around and spread some fake shit about me. I'm even afraid of that with women I know and consider good people, because of what was happening in my teen years
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 08:49 AM
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Not arrested, but "asked" to leave a bar, because I literally said "Hi, my name is X". She responded with a disgusted face and told me to get away from her immediately. I apologized and went back to my table. A few minutes later a bouncer asked me to leave the bar, or he will have to call the police. Good thing he was a decent dude and did it in a non conspicuous way, so it looked like I just left on my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 08:46 AM
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The viewers are in control. If the girl won't do what they want to see, she won't get money out of it. Just like porn stars
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:29 AM
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Show me plain boring chick, who would go for plain boring dude
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 07:26 AM
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Have you considered he does not feel any pleasure from your position? So far, every woman I've been with tried ONLY grinding when on top of me, which is fucking painful, because my dick is either bending all over the place, or I feel only some pressure in bladder area and go soft. Luckily all of them also did it for only 15-20 seconds, because they had jack shit stamina and preferred to just lay on their backs. Now I get that not every woman finds jackhammering pleasurable, but guess what, not e…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:21 PM
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Women rarely make even good wingmen. Apart from the classic "I'm friends with him, so he is "safe" " (which is super fucking bullshit), they don't do much, because they don't know how to actually pick up another women. Hell, most of them don't know how to pick themselves up
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:58 PM
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And you are forgetting how many of those women married out of necessity or straight up settled for "less" than they think they deserve. You can see countless "dead bedroom" posts and hear such stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:05 AM
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Oh, but most women do think about leagues very much. They just think they are all in the big league, and most men are d-league at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:49 AM
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actually no, most guys say they like dogs but they abandon the responsibility... You know what? Actually, I think you need to go out more, interact with real human beings, cause you've been binging depressing subs on Reddit too much
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 07:40 PM
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Ah yes, my favorite...comeback? I could tell you about my social life, but then you'd answer with other clever thing and so on. Matter of fact is - kindness (or kind disposition towards animals) never landed anybody a date, let alone a relationship (or ONS if someone is for it). An already attractive guy being "kind" - sure. But he has to be attractive ALREADY. Most guys like animals. Most guys probably have a dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 07:29 PM
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But I did not say the second one is an asshole. The first one is just more kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:19 PM
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U-hu, sure So imagine a dude who is physically unattractive to you Then the one who is First one is a bit more kinder than the second. Is the first one now more attractive? I'm sorry, but I call a slight BS on this, because in my 27 years of living on this planet, I've never witnessed being nice or kind NEVER gave anyone a relationship (other than maybe some kind of "friendship")
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:12 PM
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So 5'5 dude, with crooked teeth, receiding hairline and fat stomach is more attractive than a 6' fit guy with full head of hair, because the first one is more kind than the second one?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:08 PM
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No, because it's either untrue, or on such a small scale, it's unnoticeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 05:03 PM
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I've never seen a blue pill calling for a classic ideology in regard to dating. They always sleep some nonsense and hate on every man who is not actively worshipping all women. Could you give me an example of this classic ideology?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 01:02 PM
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So....blue pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 07:24 AM
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In order to have sex, I have to feel really comfortable with another person, so first date sex is a no no. Also I don't like the idea of it, because it sounds more like a hook up or ONS which are not my thing and don't really want to date anybody who does them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 08:19 AM
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Of course it's not a "just women" thing, BUT I was never shamed and ridiculed because of it by another dude. If I was, I would still care more about a ridicule or shaming from a person I could potentially find attractive Women are the gender priding itself on being emotionally mature, compassionate and not caring about looks that much, so ridicule and shame from them is twice as big
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 05:15 PM
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Soooo....he should seek out women he is not attracted to and hope the attraction (from both sides) develops along the way? Not great advice either. "Dinner back in my place" is quite a common way of phrasing a date. Sure he could be more forward, but women apparently don't like that either. Also, about the natural development of attraction - there are people, who don't work like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 02:28 PM
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It's wrong to "pretend" to be friends with a woman, to "get In her panties". Op stated he already saw those women in romantic ways and wanted to pursue sexual things with them. So why would he pretend to be friends with them? To drop the bomb later?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 01:07 PM
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try to become friends [...] Before the intention of trying to get in their panties What a shitty advice. Not like there are tons of videos FROM WOMAN on that topic, and why it's wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:41 PM
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I did. Hell, I was shamed and I'm not that short
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 11:56 AM
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And I have fuckton of anecdotes, saying men help/befriend/support more often than woman. And only half of them are from middle to high school I'm not hating on a whole gender, because I know some amazing women, but also the most hateful, spiteful and cruel people I know are women. The guys would at best want to kick your ass, but girls - they will crush you mentally, turn half the school/group against you. Again - I don't hate women, I just hate some specific people, but from my own experience, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 07:01 PM
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I'm a member of one of the biggest dancing communities in my country (not US). We have a lot of different people here but practically none of the girls (close to my age, at least) want to be approached in a romantic way here. They did not come here looking for love. And such is the case with other clubs and groups too. New friends? Cool! Love, relationship? Nu uh
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 08:48 AM
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Holy sheet, dude. To go out of your way to search for some old comment, to try to make a point? And I thought RPillers are chronically online. There is a difference between advice and a statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:26 PM
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Right, so when I casually browse any SM and see tons of women saying coffee dates are low value/standard whatever the fuck the call it, and then see the same thing being said in real life, and then seeing the same trope on dating apps...can I believe they actually mean it? Or do I need a confirmation from high and mighty Reddit user?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:44 PM
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Glad to know. Next time some women will write anything on the internet, I hope, as per what you just said, no one will believe her
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:37 PM
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Real women post things on SM. Are you saying we shouldn't believe those women? And my feeds on SMs are of a quite variety
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:31 PM
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I think a lot of people do that, but personally, I've met more women than men like that. And, just like complaining, most such men like that, were talking about hair color, or clothes style or body type - you know, like "yeah, I like blondes with big boobs" and then they lose their head for "flat" redhead or something like that. With women, it's more often the neverending "I like guys, who are emotionally available, thoughtful and caring", but they always go for the total opposite (probably beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:12 PM
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I don't know, to be honest. I am inclined to say women talk one thing and want another, but that usually meets with the "you are misogynistic incel" response. Buuuut I observe such behavior quite often, soooo.....
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 12:05 PM
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Women are telling us, to listen to women. So we do. And more and more women are saying coffee is of a low standard, they want to be left alone and bothered, etc. You saying "bUt WhEr'S yOuR eViDeNcE" is not changing those facts
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:48 AM
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Not in my circle at least. Sometimes they say they don't like how their gf is always late or don't pick up after herself, but that's that. Female friends will talk about lack of romance, constant fighting, physical looks etc
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:15 AM
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Few of them were listing things the HATE men do....and then talk about how their partners do exactly those things. I say it with a little bit of humour, but it still is weird
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:11 AM
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I have a friend who was dumped, because he did nothing, when he and his ex gf were robbed by a dude with a knife, so there is that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:02 AM
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I have acquaintances who happen to be women. I've never purposefully looked for female friends, because why would I? There is no special benefit to having female friends. They rarely, if ever, link you up with their female friends, they are not good wingmen and definitely the "from friends to lovers" won't happen ever (because women hate it, and also I can't see women as potential romantic partners, once we became friends)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:33 AM
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I was told something similar, while all of them were dating men, they apparently don't like 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:12 AM
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That's EXACTLY it! All could be well and you could say the most meaningless, trivial shit, and girls will HATE YOU forever, when dudes will be like "ok".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 03:17 PM
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what are some of the main differences? For the starter, the most stereotypical - giving your homies shit for giggles. Dissing each other, making fun of etc (all with consent obviously. We know what we can, can't and shouldn't make fun of). Tried this a few times with girls I thought would be okay. They were in fact NOT OKAY and had to apologize profusely to them. Other than that, some more minor things like showing extra interest in her hobbies (like, if I want to attract the girl I would try ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:47 AM
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When already in relationships, I assume both sides are, in fact, ALREADY ATTRACTED TO EACH OTHER. Which is like, a key point here. Did you even read what I wrote, or just ignored everything?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:25 AM
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Normal conversations lead to either 5 minute talk and done, or in the best case scenario, to becoming an acquaintance. It's okay if you just want to meet new people, without any sexual or romantic desires in future, but that's that. I don't flirt with 99.99% of women I know, because I have no desire to attract them. They are my social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:20 AM
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Well yeah, if you want to have sex with a woman you just met, you have to playfully flirt with her. Walking up to her and asking what she thinks of the state of current politics won't make her wet for you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:13 AM
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You do know "flirting" isn't constant "me want sex", right? You can show your personality and interests while flirting. I won't flirt with my homies (okay, I will, but not for real).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:06 AM
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I treat strangers the same way, regardless of gender. However I treat women and men I know a bit differently. And WOULD NEVER treat a girl I want to attract as I would treat a guy. That's like romantic suicide 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:03 AM
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If she is ALREADY super attracted to you, sure - regular talk will do. But if one tries to build the attraction, treating women like a regular human being will only make one a "friend". Or rather an acquaintance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:47 AM
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Riiiiiiiiight.....
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 06:37 AM
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How ironic of a blue pill to write this
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 06:33 AM
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Well, i was RPiller for like...a month? So i don't know if i'm in postition to reply on their behalf, BUT i also think many dude are actual simps, so what the hell So for you, simping isn’t just “doing thoughtful things of your one will”, it requires an element of abuse on the part of the woman? Yes and no. Said women could simply exist and not take anything from a dude, but this dude could still be simp. Imagine "all women are wonderfull" effect in person. Women can't do no wrong, they are alwa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:09 PM
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I guess? Or any woman? Obviously there are dudes paying hundreds of dollars to some chick on IG or OF, so there's that. There are dudes that will let women step all over their boundaries for even an ounce of hope of getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 04:06 PM
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Simp is a guy willing to bow to a woman, just because she is a woman. Quite simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 03:43 PM
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Same reason why so many people see RP as a woman haters. They see Tate or Fresh n Fit and say this is RP. For a long time, the flagship bluepiller on the internet was this Destiny dude. Who was "okay" with other fucking his wife, because "she loves him anyway". Aaaaand she left him. I personally don't think every blue piller is simp, but many of them actually are putting women on pedestals and treat them like some goddesses
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 03:31 PM
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Sure some may want it, because if porn, but the same could be said about cunnilingus. Doubt many men were open to it, and now it's usually a requirement
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:14 PM
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I've been like that with my ex gf too literally, and it really fucked me up for a time
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:09 PM
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So I've had an anal sex once and it was spontaneous. Used a rubber of course, but no waste on it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:08 PM
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I've been with 5 women so far and only one swallowed. Bah, only two were ok with giving a head actually
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:06 PM
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Did it once with my ex-gf, she didn't like it, so we did not do it again. It's not a must, but still appreciated. And why? I don't know. Feels nice. It's also a part of sexual degradation (before you call me names, I like some done to me too), so a mental pleasure is also present
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 06:04 PM
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Being attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 09:33 AM
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Some do, yeah. Some women also do. But still not as many as there should be (and definitely less than for women)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:35 PM
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Not to mention THERE ARE organizations helping men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:16 PM
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Men and women? Society as a whole? Or are you implying, because women did all of this, men are allowed to not take female victims seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:13 PM
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Because they are shitty assholes? Because those that don't take it seriously, don't believe men can be abused by women? Are you trying to get some "gotch'a" moment here?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:09 PM
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Because of double standards? Because society STILL does not take male abuse victims seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:42 PM
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The amount of people identifying themselves as "blue pillers" (and man-hating with it) says you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:04 PM
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Oh, blue pill is very much a cult, just like red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 05:37 AM
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Top notch victim blaming
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 05:26 PM
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so you see how communication isn't a magic pill well then, let women sit quiet, have no input in sex and be miserable in silence...i guess? i thought death grip was when you want porn and so its harder to cum (alone or with a partner) ? The simplest explanation is: when guy is masturbating a lot and over the time he keeps grabbing his penis harder and harder, making it less sensitive to "normaln" touch. But a lot of things can go as "death grip". If you only masturbate using one motiion ever, af…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 08:30 PM
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I mean "just" a hand job is quite boring. But you can do a lot more simultaneously
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 08:09 PM
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if that were true then men could just tell women exactly what they need, how fast to go, what motion to use and the women would make them cum in 2-3 minutes And i did. To all of them. And even when the one actually listening to me did wthat i told her, i still needed more time than with myself. It is such a common problem i'm surprise you don;t know it exist. The most extreme cases are even called "death grip". no man ever taught me how to touch him, have sex, blow him, etc Okay. And? So because…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 08:08 PM
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I like them, as long as the girl is listening to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 07:57 PM
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I can cum from jacking off in 2-3 minutes, and yet when a woman is jacking me off, I need sometimes even up to 10 minutes. Y'all are used to your hand or toys, know EXACTLY what you need right now, how fast go, what motion to use etc. If only y'all try to teach men what to do, instead expecting us to read minds. I've had sex with 5 girls so far. I know it's not a big number, but among those 5, only 1 (ONE!) ever told me what she likes, and showed me what to do, and after that (if she wasn't lyin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 07:38 PM
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Didn't know that study, thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:24 PM
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You repeat like a broken record. If you'd at least say something constructive or smart....but you just spat the same blue pill "you just hate women and don't take accountability"
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:58 AM
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Yes. Because "the bar" is not something being held religiously by men. On the other side you have women saying "the bar for men is in hell; just shower and dress better", but they do reject guys, even if they do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:44 AM
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Me: goes to the gym, dress well and form fitting, is socialable, has hobby, has friends of both genders, get compliments Me: still getting rejected Me: damn, I don't know what else I can improve Some rando blue piller: whaaa, you think all women are whores and sexdolls, whaaa, you just whine and whine Mate, get a grip and stop projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:21 AM
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Damn that some strong projection right here
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:11 AM
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The bar should be on the same level, but because of horny dudes (me included), the bar for women is in hell. Just don't be fat. Most men out there will take you if you are not fat. Hell, a little chubby would be ok, just not full on fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:54 AM
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Unless you are talking about some extreme situation, like a short, fat and bald dude hitting on Jessica Alba looking girl, then I would say regular men do not think they are higher than they are. I'd say most think they are lower, because their female counterparts turn them down in search for those higher
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:48 AM
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I do not agree with "submissive" being a requirement for a marriage, but I also have been in a relationship with a girl, who argued about EVERYTHING. And when I asked why, she said (and I'm not even joking), she won't be a doormat to me. So I'd rather get with a girl that is NOT boss-babe-queen-argumentative
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:40 AM
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It's hard, as a man, to shoot your league, when your league thinks they are much higher league
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:35 AM
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I just got teams ptsd
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 07:30 AM
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Speaking solely in reddit/internet context, being called "insecure" is 90% (i made that up) an insult, becasue it's always used in some weird situation. "Oh, you don't like you gf dressing in skimpy clothes, and grinding on other dudes in club? You are so insecure!" Now, the real insecurity is real, but it is not created from nothing. There is always a reason, ususally past relationships or the way someone been treated
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:57 AM
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Why is it good for general life but not for dating? Because it does not guarantee you find a relationship. It will definitely make your general life better. That's why it's shit advice, especially when someone is already doing it. Works just fine for me Congratulations 🎉 Does not work for me, tho. Why is that? Also did not work for my friend. What do you think is so different and/or special about dating that "being you" isn't sufficient? Because, to get a date, a potential romantic partner, as a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:16 PM
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Yes. So the passport bro sees there is no product of enough value, and moves somewhere else, where he may be able to find the desired value. And there is nothing wrong with it. Still, wording it to "be worthy of" is such a bullshit. Maybe those women are not worthy of the men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:44 PM
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I am disparaging this advice in a dating context. Because it's a shitty general take. It's good for general life. Especially when given to someone who really is a "basement dweller". But then, such a person probably heard it thousands of times.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:28 PM
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I know you are trying to be snarky and superior, but I'll answer anyway Yes. I dress sharp (like sharp sharp, everything is being tailored to my figure etc), keep hygiene very strictly (obvious basics like shower, genital area hygiene, grooming etc to skincare, flossing, sunscreens and so on). For over two years I've been a part of the big dancing community, where I'm (as much as I know and is shown towards me) liked. I rarely spend my evenings or weekends inside, as I go out with my friends or …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:15 PM
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Ah yes, good ol' "dress well, wash your ass and treat women like people" It must be my top five pieces of advice, among "just go outside" and "join some club".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:28 AM
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improve yourself to be worthy of woman in your own area What the f#@$ are they? Some deity or goddesses, that we must strive to be worthy of?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 11:25 AM
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I've had multiple girls literally telling me I'm good etc but I'm short (being 172 cm and taller than them)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:34 PM
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Wow, at least people treat me like a human being... What a fucked up world
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:41 PM
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I'd look below average and be in the same spot in life, where I am right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:50 PM
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Numerous well known and respected fitness figures (Jeff Cavalier, James Linker, Noel Dyzel, Will Tennyson, Jeff Nippard etc) are actively putting out information about realistic expectations, and try to help men learn what a natural I real body may look like. On IG and YT there are tons of menswear content creators reassuring men that not having a perfect Doritos shaped body is okay and teach them to adapt their wardrobe to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:41 PM
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Men should put a hell lot of money and time to still .. receive nothing? Wonderful plan
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:11 PM
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At least you have a realistic take.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:31 AM
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And that did not change a thing in my love life, when It's literally the number one advice guys get (from women and BP). "To get a girlfriend you just need to keep hygiene". I've seen it so many times it's ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:18 AM
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I'm bald (so no hair washing), do not have acne, brush and floss my teeth regularly, trim my beard (or moustache), use skincare products and generally take care of my face. Still look average AT BEST.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 09:03 AM
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What do you want us to do? Gather all men of the world and beat him to death?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:43 PM
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Red flag when she is "I'd pick a bear/all men are rapists/kill all men" type of feminist I know many women who'd 99% proclaim they are feminists, and they are not insufferable assholes, because they do not base their personality around hating man
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:48 AM
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My current partner climbs on my face, so I think I have pretty good knowledge of where the clit is, and how to use my tongue. My ex was just unbelievably selfish person
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 06:40 AM
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No, but my tongue does
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:28 PM
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I'm not angry at them for not teaching me how to date. I'm angry for not letting me socialize with kids when I was kid, thus making me an outsider or loner and having me to develop social skills way way later (still learning) than my peers
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:56 AM
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Mine. If she insists to try to finish me off - that's nice If not, I'll either finish myself off, or just leave it be We both had the same amount of time
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:47 AM
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That's why young girls are head over heels for older dudes, while dudes their (girls) age know it's fucked up...right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:38 AM
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Friends first never worked with me, because once we enter friendship, all romantic potential is out of the picture
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:32 AM
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That's why I always take the context of such discussion first. I have no problem with toys. I like toys. I don't like being replaced by toys
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:17 AM
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Guess I was just an insecure fool, when my ex-gf discovered a penile enlargement toy (the one, where man is inserting his dick in the big dildo and then using a dildo on a woman) and refused to have sex without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:09 AM
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I did it all and she still preferred toys. Some people are just shit
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:02 AM
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What if I'm literally the "I don't know, he is a great guy" person. OF COURSE I'm not perfect or the best or whatever, but practically any friend (male or female) tells me they are flabbergasted why I'm still single
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:25 PM
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Been watching porn for a long time. Had longer and shorter breaks; do not watch it while in a relationship and never had a problem with it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 10:40 AM
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You are right - there is a difference between porn and toys. Toys can be much more "dangerous" than porn, because if a woman will be using VaginoDestroyer300 with 10 different speed settings she will eventually numb herself to regular touch and won't be able to feel pleasure from human touch. Or she will be using 30 cm dildo and suddenly every average-sized dude will be "too small".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 10:20 AM
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Dad bod is literally mr Olympia on bulk
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 08:45 PM
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Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 10:17 PM
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Nah, sorry. Advice women give are 9 out of 10 times useless. And I'm not saying this out of malice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 08:30 PM
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Women are terrible at setting the OLD profile up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 08:20 PM
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Well, my two previous sexual partners did just that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 08:43 AM
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MASSIVE overbite. I felt like shit, but I just could not look at it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:14 AM
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What's funny is that almost all gay guys I know thought I'm gay too, because....I wear moustache and high waisted trousers (think 1930-1940s cut) (and sometimes act gay, I guess 😆). What's even funnier is one time this girl was obviously interested in me. Once she learned I'm not gay (or bi?), the interest immediately dropped
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 09:22 AM
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Are you talking about gays on IG, or just average gay dudes? I know few. They look like regular dudes, dress like regular dudes and act like regular dudes. They just have sex with other dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 09:05 AM
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You know what's funny and ironic? Throughout the years, I lost quite the amount of respect to women as a whole gender. And that's when I kind of started not caring for body count. I also stopped caring for a "bond" or feelings, when talking about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:45 PM
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Because those fictional men are loving fictional life in fictional world. They're all tall, super handsome and rich, and do things normal dude would get arrested for. I actually wanted to read some women's novels, and been asking for recommendations for practically months (not everyday obviously). But there is one "little" caveat - małe character must be some regular Joe, with average look, regular job, living in rented room or apt.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 11:12 AM
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I'm really into swing dancing and men's fashion, so like a combination that theoretically should make me an interesting enough. I could talk about it all day (plus I have other interests also). And I get compliments on my outfits and dancing almost weekly, in our dancing community. And you know what? Still none of the girls wanted to grab a coffee with me. So tell me more about "standing out" and being passionate
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 09:26 PM
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I...am (even though I am not a red piller). But most red pillers do just that. You just see one or two of them being on Reddit and assume every one of them is like that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 09:03 AM
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Yay, I'm special
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:59 AM
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Red pill is literally: focus on yourself and be best version of yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:54 AM
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The only thing I do (sometimes) is speaking in softer voice, but I do it unconsciously
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:40 PM
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Two independent instances (in two different places - both being pubs/bar) Me, approaching a lonely girl at the counter: - Hi, I'm X. May I buy you a drink? - ew, get away, creep Me, approaching a girl, with whom I just sing (karaoke bar, she just jumped in and started singing) - Hey, do you like XYZ (band we just performed)? They are quite niche in Poland - Leave me alone, creep I...can't even. I just don approach, because it may be creepy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:33 PM
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Men have cellulite too
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:21 PM
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2 out of 3 sexual partners. One pretty much forced me to buy the large "strap on" that you put on your dick and I had to use it every time we had sex. Second one was just constantly reminding me she prefer big dicks and does not feel mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:41 AM
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Speaking only for myself - women are 99% responsible for my insecurities. And i am not saying that with hate towards women. I've never really felt bad about myself in any way. I was short, but who cares? Well i guess every girl i tried to get to know did, because it was one of the most common reason given with rejection. So after times being told i'm too short, i started to be insecure about my height. Nowadays i don't really care about it that much (sure be nice to be couple inches taller) I ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:39 AM
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So who/how/when should I approach instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:05 AM
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I ..am talking to woman
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:47 AM
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Are you just reversing the "women let some Chad use them, while not noticing good dude she friend zoned"? Because the stuff you describe rarely happens in real life
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 01:52 PM
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