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i said the guy i want is average not that i want some random average guy. im speaking about a specific guy. if i wanted any random average man ur right i could get one easily but i want a very specific average man who does not want me hence why im not with him. Also i dont leave my house so i def dont have opportunities on a daily basis lol nor do I when i do
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:35 PM
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how lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 11:29 PM
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“smile lines are a beautiful thing”🥹 this made me very happy thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:35 PM
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if you can tell it’s plastic surgery then it’s bad plastic surgery. there is plenty of good plastic surgery you just can’t detect it from natural
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 10:01 PM
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The guy I want is an average guy looks wise, and income wise and I want commitment from him for my own selfish reasons such as loving him and wanting to spend my life with him mainly
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/26 07:01 PM
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you aren’t open to learning if you only are using new information to support your own opinion rather than evolving your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 08:46 AM
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TLDR: educated women pick better men with better potential to give their children good lives or just don’t have children if they can’t find this… what’s the problem? seems like an educated choice lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:10 AM
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I don’t think it’s a problem. It CAN change but it probably won’t unless women’s rights are restricted. But the amount of people required in the work force will decline over the years anyway because of ai so I don’t even believe women having that many children will be necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:07 AM
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i think hypergamy is a part of biology for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 09:33 PM
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because female attraction = hypergamy and male attraction = biology they can’t help it!!! (this is what i’ve heard not my own view)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 12:08 PM
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i don’t really imagine sex with strangers but i see a relatively good looking guy probably every other time i go out
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 12:16 AM
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Not sure why u have put this under debate, it reads like a diary entry not an argument
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:28 AM
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this is it right here lol. i know what i want but what i want A.) is rare and B.) doesn’t want me
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 12:17 AM
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what does outrageous mean to you
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 01:18 AM
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I was with a man like you and may never be able to date again because of the emotional scarring. I have trust issues that will be here permanently for the rest of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 08:10 PM
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you literally are doing the same to these women. women who would otherwise not have sex with you if you hadn’t lied. IE they are not giving informed consent. it’s creepy because you KNOW if you had been honest that they would not have sex with you. which is worse than them leading you on because they didn’t violate your sexual boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:17 PM
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she’s getting lied to how would she know that OP is a piece of trash. he’s saying everything she wants to hear
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:14 PM
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Reading number 3 gave me flashbacks to my ex who emotional scarred me so much I haven’t dated in 2 years because i found out that’s what he was doing to me. Genuinely OP i hate u and i hope your next dating endeavors are wildly unsuccessful.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 07:13 PM
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I already know I want to be a wife and mom now at 21 but don’t see why that would make me settle for a man I don’t like?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:12 PM
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You don’t have to believe it for it to be statically true. And many happy single women do not speak about men the way incels speak about women. Also incels speak about beating and rping women as well as sexual distribution of women which I never see women speaking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:49 AM
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This is so grammatically terrible i have no idea what you are trying to convey
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:14 AM
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Yeah but unlike men, women aren’t as often settling for average anymore. They are more content being alone which is where the disconnect is happening from average men. It also clearly leads to resentment from average men because the average man would pick being with an average women over being alone and he is mad at the average woman for preferring being alone to his company.So it’s not about what they can get its about what they will tolerate. But yes in the very same light men seeing THEMSELVE…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:03 AM
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the issue isn’t that women don’t know they are average (they do) the issue OP is having is that average women still don’t want average men lol, but yeah a lot of the male complaints here are projection lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 03:00 AM
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Women seeing themselves as average won’t make them want average men tho so why does it matter
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:55 AM
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Most of them also bitch about betabux even tho he was the guy that was settled for so they clearly don’t see that as ideal either
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:42 AM
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Yes we did have similar interests and values. One of them didn’t work out mainly because of timing, he was going away to college and I thought he would want to do long distance but I was wrong. The other turned out to be also seeing other people the whole time while lying to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:37 AM
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i wanted them they didn’t want me and i just assumed they were going to commit eventually. (this happened 2 times) haven’t dated since because this emotionally wrecked me and has made me closed off to future connections
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 04:24 AM
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Yeah but i’d rather not lie to someone i’m going to be in a life long commitment with
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:52 PM
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the “problem” is that both genders see the opposite as a monolith. plenty of women ARE attracted to height and money and plenty aren’t. plenty of men ARE attracted to women without makeup and many aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:57 PM
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because everyone said personality matters more and demonizes women who only date attractive men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:54 PM
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I did that when I was a teenager because people told me attraction doesn’t matter and would not do it again. if someone decides to do that for a life long relationship I agree that’s a problem and the man can’t be blamed. And no most men aren’t sub 5 a very small amount are. Most men are average just like most women are average.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:22 PM
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i really liked his personality and everyone told me to look past the lack of attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:56 PM
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obviously not
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:54 PM
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no i just didn’t find any other opinion worthy enough to change myself
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 10:08 AM
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yeah sub 5 but tall, wasn’t enough to override the sub 5
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:51 AM
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i am and i believe your genetic baseline determines your life. if ur sub 5 u have bigger fish to fry than worrying about a deadbeadroom since u wont get that far anyway is my point lol and blackpill just means i believe that genetics determine your life none of the further weird incel bs
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:40 AM
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who is WE i certainly don’t know that nor do i agree. just marry a woman who is attracted to u and u won’t have to worry about it. and if ur response is “well no women are attracted to me” then u have bigger fish to fry than worrying about a future dead bedroom .
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:34 AM
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how does my belief that genetics determine life have to do with the fact i want to fuck someone more if i’m attracted to them. unless ur saying it determines their life how much i want to fuck them or something
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:29 AM
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i think in many cases this is true and in many it isn’t, context matters and i’m not the only woman
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:28 AM
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i’ve usually had an equal sex drive to male partners if i was attracted to them but lower if i was not
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:46 AM
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because only 1 of the opinions mattered enough to change
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:45 AM
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I spend a good amount learning. I have changed only 1 behavior because of the opinion of men. I just online date when I want to date. Very intentionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:41 AM
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I would HAVE to live with someone before i marry them because they don’t just have to be a good partner they have to be a good housemate and u can’t gauge that without living together
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 07:02 PM
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too many guys care don’t want to shrink my pool of options when my options are already limited for other reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:53 PM
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probably cause incels co-opted it but at the very core it’s just genetic determinism
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:45 PM
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no as in I am 21 years old and we consider 20 bodies to be a high body count at my age, not as in “i’m in my 20s of body count”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 06:14 AM
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because i want to be married and the idea of casual sex forever sounds incredibly bleak
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:55 AM
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im in my 20s and that’s considered high
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:55 AM
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what does that have to do with anything? blackpill is the belief genetics largely or completely determine your life which i also believe
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 05:36 AM
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Yes I would sleep around a lot more and do a lot crazier stuff if I didn’t think it would impact my chance at a husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 03:42 AM
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I wouldn’t date a guy with more than 20 bodies tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:14 PM
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the same is true for men they also all microcheat. U have to decide ur comfortable as a woman with a man watching porn, thirsting after IG models, going to strip clubs or restaurants like twin peaks with his boys which also is mirco cheating to be in a relationship with a man. And cranking it to naked women who aren't ur gf is considerably closer to cheating than a girl shaking ass at the club.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 04:46 PM
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the male version of are we dating the same guy would just be are we dating the same girl which no one would be upset with. what YOU have described is not the male version it’s a completely different thing that is ridiculous that yes would not be tolerated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 04:34 PM
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yes i will pay my own thing and then go home by myself and not have sex as well!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:48 AM
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2x daily is 14 times a week that’s not a low number girl😭
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:07 AM
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This is a guy who is okay joking about other people’s Gods from the comments it seems. Jokes for me but not for thee type mindset
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:05 AM
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Are you Hindu perchance if so this seems more like a localized problem that has to do with Hindus and Muslims hating each other because globally speaking muslim women are seen as oppressed and are very seldom joked about
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:00 AM
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by leftist terms muslim men are not seen as below women lmfao and muslim women don’t tend to be the butt of jokes or at least not ones i hear . and ur jokes aren’t funny that’s why people aren’t laughing. if u wanna hear a funny misogynistic joke listen to shane gillis he does them well occasionally and is actually funny
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:55 AM
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not a single one of these were jokes just broad negative statements about women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:53 AM
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The group of women who don’t appreciate that humor usually broadly don’t appreciate it. Also you seem to be learning the difference of punching up vs punching down in humor. One is generally better received that the other. But the “jokes” you have listed aren’t funny if ur gonna make misogynistic jokes they should at least be funny and many women still might laugh because they still appreciate the humor enough to look past the punch down. Dark humor still has to have the humor part to be appreci…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:50 AM
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uhhh yea
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:45 AM
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First one is a joke based in misogyny and is able to be statistically proven false so not only is it not funny and punching down but it’s also not true. Second one i’m willing to bet no one has gotten mad at.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:45 AM
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No one enjoys being the punchline. This includes men. Men just are told to swallow their feelings in general so don’t voice their emotional discomfort as frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 03:43 AM
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Lol yeah i only do 50/50 now when i know i don’t want to fuck so they won’t feel like i owe them. if i won’t let a guy pay it’s cause it’s not going anywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 12:34 AM
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The sheer amount of sex necessary to satiate a man still becomes a lot after a while just because of the discrepancies in female and male sex drives. Lots of the sex would be enjoyable and the rest would be tolerable. But with someone I wasn’t attracted to the excess sex wouldn’t be tolerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 11:54 PM
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I agree. That’s why I only would marry a guy i’m extremely attracted to and can tolerate that with rather than a guy I’m not that attracted to and can’t tolerate that with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:58 PM
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he said he wants women to date people their not attracted to is my point. but then OP complains about when they do
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:40 PM
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he flat out says women should date men they aren’t attracted to what do you mean you can’t follow it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:32 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:01 PM
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idk how to link a comment
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:00 PM
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it has an equal chance of coming out. this is the whole “this thing i care about matters because i care about it and the thing you care about doesn’t matter because I don’t care about it” a woman finding out someone used a prostitute through the same means through phone history the guys friends or even exes. many men care about body count many women care about sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:00 PM
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im all for everyone getting their face done. im getting mine done lmfao. if it looks good it looks good. it’s the closest u can come to escape bad genetics looks wise
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:56 PM
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i responded to it yesterday, it’s frequent
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:55 PM
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this only applies if the guy is bald with an average face. if he’s an absolute mogger than being bald doesn’t matter as much
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:27 PM
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yall are constantly complaining about how women won’t date guys they aren’t attracted to but then also constantly complain about women who do settle for men they aren’t attracted to who personality wise are more compatible. pick a problem because these are mutually exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:19 PM
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anywhere where you or her are not working or a patron. if she’s at work do not cold approach. if she’s a regular at YOUR work do not cold approach
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:06 PM
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yeah but when someone finds out 10 years in they lied often times the relationships implode. if your argument is that everyone’s a lying chud you are grasping at straws because most people don’t have the ability to lie for so long about big ticket items
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 06:00 PM
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“Im in a weird spot with this topic. I have enough tact to know that I can’t cold approach a girl at a cafe and even though she’s wearing a Star Wars shirt or has a Pokémon keychain I know I can’t just walk up and expect a full conversation with her just because of implied similar interests. But there’s also no way to meet someone too if you don’t know anyone.” Why not? I wear graphic tshirts all the time and one of my particular interests is male dominated (invincible) and i’ve had many guys co…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:44 PM
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i think that many women are turned on by personality factors I’m just not one of them. If I already find someone attractive a good personality adds to that and a bad personality makes me want to stay away tho
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:31 PM
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i don’t lie about this and these things always come to the surface at some point. if i found out 10 years in the guy im dating slept with a hooker i’d breakup with them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:30 PM
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man asks woman about body count and past, woman does the same
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:29 PM
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idk it would probably come up in the same convo where the guy asks about her body count
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:28 PM
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i don’t care about a man’s body count if it was with partners he didn’t pay for lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 05:26 PM
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I didn’t say it had positive impact lol that was OP. I said that the reason OP doesn’t want women to look down on it (which we do and we includes me) is because it limits future relationships. I’m uncomfortable with both but at least online is less interactive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 04:00 AM
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i mean within a relationship those types of things come up
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:45 AM
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my guess is that he thinks (correctly) that it will impact his chance at a future relationship and is upset about that specifically. i mean i personally wouldn’t date someone who slept with a prostitute but i’d be fine with someone who maybe paid for porn once
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:39 AM
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100% of my attraction to men is physical. i either think he’s hot or i don’t being super nice or competent doesn’t change that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 12:23 AM
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fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:56 PM
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they aren’t actually okay with anyone lol otherwise they wouldn’t talk about fat chicks so much
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:53 PM
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do you agree men should do the same and date women they aren’t attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 09:49 PM
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it CAN be a bad personality but it’s not always that’s correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:40 PM
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<image> i didn’t want to rewrite it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:52 PM
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I was with you until you said this because this implies the only reason he would pay is if he’s getting laid. So it’s moved from gender equality to “why should i pay if she won’t fuck me” aka why can’t i treat my date like a prostitute. so the “signal” for whether the man wants to have sex is he buys it and the “signal” if the woman wants to have sex is being bought this isn’t the “gender equality win” you seem to think it is. generally i used to agree that i prefer 50/50 but if the idea is 50/5…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 06:14 AM
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“When a woman expresses it, is she told (or should she be told) that she's a cold-hearted gold-digging whore who's just looking for a sugar daddy?” they literally constantly are. women don’t want to be reduced to a bang maid just like men don’t want to be reduced to a wallet. both of these desires are things you can have but there IS shame in wanting purely transactional loveless relationships which is why people shame both gold diggers and men looking for bang maids.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 02:35 PM
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lies obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:55 AM
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“I want to hate women but how dare they hate me”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/26 11:44 AM
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all of the men except 1 i’ve dated have been bi and my least favorite one was the straight one but tbf i am also bi
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 02:58 PM
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male sexuality isn’t the default
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:58 AM
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i don’t even know what the sidewalk rule is
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 04:30 AM
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So do historical fiction books doesn’t make them anymore accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 03:22 PM
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okay but the average guy isn’t short. average guy is 5’9. short guys would be the outliers in this case being of below average height
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:29 PM
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the average height of women is shorter than the average height of men so even if u pair an average woman and an average man up there will be a height gap
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:23 PM
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Tbh I think it’s the other way around menstruation shouldn’t be celebrated. Puberty should be seen as neutral. But also there are plenty of cultures that celebrate both girls and boys coming of age.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:09 PM
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Yeah people only notice the outliers because they are drumroll please… outliers !
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:01 PM
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Yes average applies to everything. Most people are average looking, have an average job with average pay, are an average height, have an average IQ, have average athletic ability and so on. If most people total are average then most people total are ending up with someone average.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:59 PM
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Date average women then
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:55 PM
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They don’t. You aren’t paying attention to the average matched couples (most of them) because they don’t make it to those stats. Almost everyone is average and ends up with someone who is average.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:54 PM
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It doesn’t have any. Use actual history.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:35 AM
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men don’t approach women at the bottom either, there is only so much to be done. this would help average looking guys
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:09 PM
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HUGE PLUS!!!! especially if he likes chess or comics
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:17 PM
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Yeah I’m not talking about the stories in the bible I’m talking about how the bible has been used in law making throughout history. You can’t argue “this has been true throughout history” and then not use a single historical example. Even if your argument WAS true (which it’s not) you have undermined your point by the way you have presented it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:25 PM
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a religious artifact written by men that is a collection of stories not reality that has been used throughout history to control women doesn’t have a favorable view of women?!?!?!? NO WAY!!!!! if u want to make this argument quote actual history
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:20 PM
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“doughts”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:19 PM
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The bible isn’t actually “history” lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 06:11 PM
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I have self actualizad. Love isn’t a checklist of attributes but attraction is. And i’m not having sex with someone I find deeply unattractive and longterm that would cause issues like dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:26 PM
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If he’s doing it in private with me to release steam I don’t care. Someone who publicly denigrates others is deeply unattractive for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:25 PM
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I don’t want “chad” I just want someone a bit better looking than average but because I am ugly the people who want me are also ugly and I am not attracted to them. Attraction isn’t my choice and I’m not going to decide to be with a very unattractive man (this is who I can get) just to not be alone. That’s ridiculous and won’t make me any happier than I am now. My only prison is of the flesh.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:17 PM
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Im not in prison. Prison would be being with a man I don’t actually like but am forcing myself to be with for the benefit of not being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:02 PM
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I would loveeee a handsome house husband where i am the breadwinner that’s the dream
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:33 AM
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Yeah I don’t care for the pity parties either. If you choose to be alone because you won’t settle I don’t care to hear how lonely it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:30 AM
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Men are more desperate for sex and have lower standards for sex. They wouldn’t swipe on this many women if they only were looking for relationships. Men narrow their criteria significantly for LTR just like women
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:23 AM
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people are allowed to wait out on whatever standard they have, whether they will be happy and these things are realistic is a different story. men trying to “logic” women into settling will never work
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:21 AM
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Tbh I genuinely don’t get this one. I have a lot of money and so I don’t care how much the guy has as long as he isn’t a mooch. I have other extremely high standards but this particular one doesn’t make sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:18 AM
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tall good looking men who are liberal and family oriented don’t care about finances or status tho
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:00 AM
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I think things should be flipped as well, but as long as men continue to approach while also denigrating the women do, they won’t be.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:38 AM
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But women don’t want to, and women don’t have to as long as men keep approaching them. To get women to approach more men have to stop approaching. Women also get called whores for approaching it’s a net negative currently for women to approach
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:07 AM
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If men can’t band together to fix this problem then it will continue. No one cares men use sex as incentives. Fix it. Or don’t. This is a men issue women cannot help with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:55 PM
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Many people care about personality and that IS judged. But you don’t even get thru the door to show off personality if the person isn’t initially attracted to you. That’s common knowledge for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:45 PM
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im sorry why is it a revelation to learn the majority of women find the top 20% of men attractive ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:43 PM
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If men cared about other men their incentives should be helping their fellow man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:34 PM
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Or maybe I just find a very small amount of men attractive, alpha widowed assumes i’ve dated or slept with a chad neither of which I have done. There is an ex I guess I’m not over but he was below average by all metrics RP guys would use but he is certainly why I’m not going to date a man who is below average for the same amount of heartbreak again ie the “risk wasn’t worth it for a guy of this caliber” part of my statement
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:33 PM
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Attractiveness can be perceived before someone even opens their mouths so obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:00 PM
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It’s a good solution. The men at the top just don’t care about you guys at the bottom. If they did it would work. This is their fault not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 02:54 PM
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no guys women are interested in have to stop too it only changes if they ALL do it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 02:33 PM
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yes these are also true if they are done on a collective level not individual
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 12:23 PM
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I mean if you guys collectively stopped approaching there might be a change in the tide but if you condemn yourself like this then yeah it’s gonna be men who approach
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 11:55 AM
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Oh I’m almost certain i’m NOT a unique case
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 10:05 AM
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Yeah because women generally find height attractive. Just like men generally find youth attractive. It’s biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 09:40 AM
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I don’t have deluded ideas about it I already said i’m not high value enough for these people nor do I think I can land my type. Which is why I don’t date. But yes I would rather check out then date guys that are in my league persay. I already tried that it wasn’t worth it to me to go through all the heartache for someone I didn’t even consider attractive. Despite him being my match.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 09:36 AM
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“those women want really tall men to prove their straightness” or they are just more attracted to tall people lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:49 AM
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Thanks! Same to your awkward coworker lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 08:13 AM
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Very few people men and women alike genuinely enjoy being single they are just coping
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:52 AM
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Yeah I have and I’ve learned the types of people I want don’t want me, i am not attractive or successful enough for them and I don’t blame them for their lack of desire because I would not desire me either. I dated on and off for about 5 years. There are plenty of guys who would be interested in me Im just not interested in them and am not interested in forcing chemistry where it doesn’t exist. I don’t believe that’s fair to either party. Also I already see relationships with men as such a huge …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:47 AM
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“Women don't love men idealistically like men love women” men don’t love women idealistically lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:42 AM
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meh i just know im not good enough for the type of person i would actually want and dont want to settle or for someone else to settle for me. many of the women i know share this sentiment
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:40 AM
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As in you were sad about it or felt like absolute shit because it turned you off?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:38 AM
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Job is necessary to not be homeless. There is some real good external motivation there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 07:29 AM
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He asked me out just to tell me he would only ever hook up because even though I looked better than my pictures I still wasn’t pretty enough to date. Meaning he already from my pictures only asked me out to fuck (which he confirmed) there is no win here. He saw me as an easy target he thought would sleep with him just because he was handsome and I am not and when I made it clear I wouldn’t because I’m not interested in that he bitched about hypergamy until I excused myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 06:55 AM
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men’s mental health being mocked =/= men don’t preach. both are true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 05:45 AM
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Yes, as many men admit men are willing to fuck ugly girls and he saw me as a hookup (he said) but wouldn’t take me seriously to date (he also said this). And the date consisted of him talking to me about hypergamy and ranting about women. Not really a win.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 08:47 PM
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I did eventually leave as soon as there was a good opportunity and didn’t see him again. You can also leave if a woman preaches to you. Not sure why this matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:25 PM
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The expectation for men has always been that’s it’s okay for them to have less expectations for attractive women what are you talking about. The meme about choosing the penniless beautiful barista over an older less attractive career woman didn’t come from nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:14 PM
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Men don’t have to prove they are good. And women until proven otherwise will assume they aren’t. Both are true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 07:04 PM
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generally speaking when are women speaking to unattractive men that aren’t in their social circle lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:58 PM
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I gave you an example of men preaching to me irl. It happens all the time lmfao. You have decided to disregard it because it doesn’t fit what you believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:49 PM
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“And before someone says "men do this too," Unattractive women arent getting preached to about mens mental health, or, how hard is it being a man or anything like that. .”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:38 PM
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My brother you are preaching right now. And yes I started this with saying I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:35 PM
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Your whole argument is that women do this and men don’t do this. They do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:27 PM
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“men aren’t speaking to yall in general” so you agree! men and women alike treat people they are attracted to differently lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:22 PM
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they are constantly preaching to us on here yet say ugly women don’t get preached to… the irony lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:22 PM
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Men don’t talk to attractive women the same way they talk to unattractive women. Men don’t talk to powerful women they the same way they talk to powerless women. They don’t talk to women they want the same way as they do to women they don’t want. Both men and women understand social leverage what point are you even trying to make here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:21 PM
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Combo of the 2
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:16 PM
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Don’t tell me what happens to unattractive women when you are not one. I went on a date with a guy and he spent an hour complaining about hypergamy. Unattractive women are both ignored AND preached to just like unattractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:13 PM
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Just a vibe I got. As I said there wasn’t any of the obvious things that made me go he 100% must like me like compliments or lots of texts. But I definitely had the vibe that he did but since it wasn’t I 100% knew I just told myself I was being conceited. I would not have ever known for sure if he didn’t tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:12 PM
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Yeah this is true for both men and women. There is more leeway for people seen as desirable point blank period. Unattractive women constantly get preached to about hypergamy and men’s mental health.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:10 PM
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No because I suspected he had interest in me the whole time. I just didn’t want to believe it A.) because i didn’t feel that way about him and it would ruin the friendship B.) because I assumed i was being conceited and thought maybe i was just picking up on something that wasn’t there
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:08 PM
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There was one guy I was friends with who I really liked as a friend but always thought maybe he had a crush on me but I then would think to myself “don’t be so conceited” and brushed it off. He then asked me out a few months ago😭 so because of my personal experience I would say USUALLY yes but there absolutely exceptions to the rule. He didn’t flirt or text a lot or even ever compliment me or anything excessive I just always had a suspicion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:01 PM
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Providing a great life as a husband and being unfaithful are mutually exclusive in almost all cases. Especially one where the wife doesn’t want it but the man feels like he deserves it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 05:14 PM
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Correct. Neither should women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 02:27 PM
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Decent = integrity and basic morality , doesn’t hurt others on purpose, honest, responsible , respect boundaries (there are lots of people like this) Nice+agreeable = pleasant and easy to get along with, avoids conflict , polite and accommodating, compromises to keep the peace, warm and validating (there aren’t that many people like this)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:03 PM
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decent humans beings =/= nice and agreeable. those are 2 very specific non common traits. in friendships i find it easier to find good people as well as nice agreeable people than relationships but i bet u can guess the gender of my friends vs the preferred gender i tend to date
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:56 PM
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“and people who are AGREEABLE and GENUINELY NICE are in high supply. “ they most certainly are not, both men and women alike mainly suck on average lmfao. there isn’t a high supply of agreeable and nice people
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:47 PM
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Tbh the issue is that what’s considered a good personality is pretty subjective from person to person for men and women. there really isn’t a universal good personality TM
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 02:44 PM
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love of my life but only if he doesn’t see younger women as the end all be all of most attractive, if he doesn’t then career and friends
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 10:24 AM
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what do you believe a woman’s prime is and what do you believe a man’s prime is just physically speaking
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:12 PM
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I appreciate you for saying this I’m literally trying to find someone who as they age they start seeing 20 year olds as children (which isn’t the majority) because i don’t want to have a 20 year old daughter and have my husband be attracted to her age group that literally creeps me the fuck out
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:07 PM
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Not the most physically attractive person ever =/= part of an age group not even considered attractive to men what so all anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:06 PM
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The better way to look at it is “just accept you will age out of being attractive to your husband but that doesn’t mean he will value you any less” i’m all good thanks. i actually don’t want to date someone perpetually attracted to 20 year olds even as they age when I won’t be.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:05 PM
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most men aren’t attracted to 20 year olds primarily? studies show differently
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:03 PM
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multiple men (4 guys on reddit) vs many studies with hundreds of men… i wonder which is more reliable🤔🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:01 PM
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More attractive people than ourselves =/= being a part of an age group that all men agree is universally less attractive there is a difference between knowing a BF thinks megan fox is hotter than me (because duh she is) vs a BF who sees every woman who is younger than you as more attractive and slowly starts seeing you less so each year that passes. Men don’t view women aging the way women view men aging. You also have ignored that for many men “being nice” isn’t enough. Appearance is rated as o…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:55 PM
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“studies show that men prefer younger women” okay so then u see why im uninterested in dating someone whose preference i will only match for about 9 more years lmfao. this isn’t in my head and u can find men insulting older women and saying they are unattractive in about any other one of these PPD threads. it’s not self sabotage to choose to protect my future self from a man who will only grow repulsed by me and wack it to 20 year olds perpetually.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:45 PM
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Of course I have other value this isn’t asked in good faith lol. “traded for a younger model” ur proving my point
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:41 PM
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First of all I already tried number 2 and he cheated on me with a hotter girl even when i constantly cooked for him baked for him drove gave him gifts etc lol. But the implication that getting a younger woman = trading up is exactly what I’m talking about lol. You are arguing I’m crazy to want to avoid someone who sees youth as the most attractive thing while reinforcing that that’s how you see it. The idea that many men DONT care about youth or appearance isn’t a good faith argument when u can …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:36 PM
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Sure. there is no data that says this. Oh wait! https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10367477/ <image> Again I feel like you are not arguing in good faith if you are pretending a well documented preference doesn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 06:57 PM
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It’s not assuming the worst when every single statistic and study shows the same thing lmfao. sorry i make data informed choices. nor do i hate men for their biological reality i just can’t personally deal with it. also men constantly talk about how women age terrible and “hit the wall” so this comment doesn’t seem good faith to me when i know we are on the same internet and both see these things
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 06:50 PM
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I don’t think they are a lie but I think those women are comfortable with the truth that men are still physically more attracted to younger women than them and I am not comfortable with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 06:49 PM
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Yeah but I feel like you arent getting my point I dont want someone who thinks Im past my prime at the age of 30. Which is still to me very young but already where men start saying women are old and ugly. I dont want to be with someone who sees women’s prime as 18-25 which statistically is most men. If dating studies also showed women saying they lost attraction and weren’t attracted to the men their age this would be less disheartening and just “reality” but no, women’s attraction ages up with …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 06:38 PM
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Yes but I can’t deal with the fact that men will always prefer younger women physically whereas women it shows their preference aging with them. I want someone who would be as attracted to me old as they are young which is just not realistic for men ig. And also some weight gain is normal as you age especially if you give birth. like the “will young people always be more attractive physically? of course.” is the part i can’t cope with because women don’t reflect the same way of thinking and i do…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 06:28 PM
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A.) Why am I bitter: I stopped dating because I hate the biological reality that men are attracted to younger women over older women I genuinely can’t cope with the idea of a man i’m with as a young woman growing older beside him and watching as he begins to lust after younger women as i continue to have eyes for him. I’m not saying it’s wrong or right but every single study confirms men prefer younger women and I won’t be a young woman forever so it feels pointless. B.) Unfortunately a large go…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 05:55 PM
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what ruins dating for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:52 PM
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how do you learn to accept this without feeling bitter (i’m asking for me)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:51 PM
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yeah but again 1-4 years isn’t really seen as significantly older u get that right. women like to date SLIGHTLY older men and overwhelmingly do not date significantly older. the comment u are responding to clearly was talking about the age gaps OP is referring to not 1-4 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:46 PM
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wait can u ask this for women too i want to see the differences
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:43 PM
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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8761235/ data disagrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:36 PM
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yes but there is a difference between 1-4 years older (which is the norm and what women seem to even prefer, not arguing that) and what OP is implying will be the only option which is not the norm
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:30 PM
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you absolutely can, i’m just saying i find it unlikely if you are a 40 year old man with extreme success with 20 year old women without providing them anything but your sweet company, would be
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:29 PM
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men have LONGER to have children but not as long as many men think. older sperm can lead to developmental issues
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:27 PM
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you are a 40 year old who provides no status or money and gets 20 year olds yet still bitches on reddit? okay lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:24 PM
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then u won’t get a woman significantly younger than you😭 if you believe the men who are 1-2 decades older than 20 year old women aren’t bringing any sort of status or money to the table then you are delusional even the craziest RP guys on here understand that 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:19 PM
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a younger woman won’t be mutually attracted to you for your looks tho only what u provide her ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:16 PM
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women dating men 1-4 years older than themselves is common and the norm. more than this is uncommon. but i agree the larger age gaps do tend to be older men with younger women but these have to do with money and status. this type of gap isn’t obtainable to an average 50 year old man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:16 PM
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women date 1-4 years older all the time. anything above that is actually uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:14 PM
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and older men don’t have the bodies of young men. all studies show women prefer men within their own age group unless u plan to be such a statistical outlier wealth or status wise that that is surpassed this will stay a fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:04 PM
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this guy seems to be sure he won’t be said average old man
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:02 PM
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If the husband is okay with living in filth why can’t the wife be!!!!! -because it’s insane
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:59 PM
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Both are considered “high standards” and not the norm. Men constantly shame women who don’t want a man who watches porn. Both are perfectly reasonable boundaries for both a man or a woman to have. also it’s not unreasonable at all to the right person.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 11:35 AM
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as long as he stayed loyal to me i wouldn’t care but to me loyalty includes not watching porn (whether that be gay or straight) unless the change is that he became asexual and doesn’t like sex anymore and then maybe that would cause an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 07:34 AM
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1.) I would find the fact that this drives them to suicide to be serious but I don’t think there is anything sexually to be done about it only teaching men that their value doesn’t come from sex or attention from women 2.) no 3.) definitely not 4.) when i have a partner im already highly intimate with them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 10:13 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 01:26 PM
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1: full agree 2: not even close
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 10:15 PM
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idk i’ve had a by all standards “average” partner i was ravenous for. i don’t think it ALWAYS has to be pretend
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 07:04 PM
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it is the most human thing of all , men caring about their looks when the world clearly does too is not unreasonable in anyway
/r/ExRedPill01/06/26 11:08 PM
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i did but then my straight guy friend recently asked me out which made things awk so not sure now, strong maybe probably yes if there is not attraction from either party
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:43 PM
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tbh all the guys i’ve liked i’ve “chased” i think putting in effort is important for both men and women for a long term satisfactory relationship and part of that is “chasing” each other and making the each other feel desirable
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 12:33 PM
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the fact u have reached back for the same personal anecdote which has only happened within your life as proof that it isn’t common. it happened once lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:26 AM
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i mean depends on ur definition of good. if u mean kind then by very nature no they don’t have good personalities because you can’t be kind and abusive. if you mean charismatic and funny then yes u can have a good personality and be abusive
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:19 AM
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not true plenty of chopped skinny girls and plenty of cute chubby girls it’s about ur facial features. i would think (but im not a man) a slightly chubby girl with a great face and good body fat distribution (like more of an hourglass than apple) does better than a skinny woman with bad facial features. average isn’t just “skinny”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 02:14 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 10:00 PM
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gosiling IPD means he’s prob acc mtn imo, chris pratt should be htn, robert should be htn as well same with the openheimer guy, none of the spidermans are htn garfield is hmtn but holland is hltn, nicholas cage should be higher than the horde he’s hltn-lmtn at least and aging wise he has held up much better than a lot of these guys and the guy are the very end of sub 3 is also ltn not sub 3
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 09:33 PM
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lots of ur chadlites are htns and lots of your htns are ltns or mtns chad an unmoggable tier pretty accurate tho some of the horde is also just ltn but some are sub 3 and some of ur sub 3s are just ltn
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 09:16 PM
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this only happens for above average women be serious
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:54 PM
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completely wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:45 PM
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i mean men do this all the time this isn’t rlly a gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:38 PM
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exactly!!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:32 PM
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yeah but these will be the women they settled for not the women they want. they wants a younger women but younger women don’t want them so they ACCEPT an older woman. i’m not gonna date a man long enough to age out of attraction anymore lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 08:30 PM
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proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:52 AM
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Full agree on it doesn’t tell you anything about their interior world BUT seeing shared opinions from creators like ie a woman says she doesn’t like bald guys and then 100k people like that or a guy saying he doesn’t like old women and 100k people like it isn’t “insight into this one persons inner world and opinion” it’s 100k people who share this opinion and agree you don’t have to hear the interior world to hear the opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:49 AM
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Yes and no, marriage as an institution started as a way to sell women to men so I cant help but think romance wasn’t as much of a thing as people believed it to have been in the past. But also to some degree yes knowing how men feel about older women is why i dont date anymore. i never realized they thought that until i saw about 1000+ videos about it of men of all ages saying women past 25 are old and ugly. Im sure men experience this to the same degree but with common male insecurities. It doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 05:46 AM
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i said lol- which means laugh out loud because upon reading your comment i laughed audibly 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:38 AM
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truth nuke!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:29 AM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 12:28 AM
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if they see the man’s only value to their life being sex yes but at what rate do women vs men pursue this be honest now
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:10 PM
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if you want to have sex with a woman and see no value in her life to you other than her sexual value then that is dehumanizing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 03:49 PM
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what tax dollars are used on menstruation please provide source OP
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 05:44 AM
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Yes it’s women’s fault they are reduced to sexual objects for not being interesting enough certainly not the man’s fault for reducing her to her sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 03:25 AM
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truth nuke
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 02:39 AM
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Misandry means prejudice or contempt toward men because they are men. Patriarchy on the other hand is a social system built around male dominance and traditional gender roles. Those roles can absolutely hurt men through things like conscription, emotional repression, pressure to be providers, disposability in war, etc, but the system was not historically organized around hatred of men but rather the maintenance of male power and control of women which is in direct opposition of the term term mis…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 09:37 PM
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There are absolutely aspects of a patriarcal society that are disproportionately harmful to men! Such as conscription like you mentioned but also things like financial proof being tied to worth and the lack of support for men emotionally. But again these aspects of patriarchal society that are bad for men are because of PATRIARCHY not misandry. I think our viewpoints may be closer than you realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:48 PM
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absolutely but it’s a result of patriarchy not misandry
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:43 PM
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bring it back??? it never left what are u talking about homie
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:27 PM
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care to elaborate lmfao explain how misandry systemically and historically has effected men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:22 PM
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misandry is real but it’s only real in the same way racism towards white people is real. it can hurt feelings and is absolutely wrong socially and morally but has no real effect on the systemic treatment of men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:17 PM
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win having women be house slaves again i’m assuming
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:12 PM
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Solution is to make things as unpleasant for feminists, use insults and extremely strong language. why do u believe in part feminism began lol. women’s language about men currently is a response to how men have ALWAYS treated, legislated and spoken about women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:11 PM
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women are not only attracted to 10% of men😭
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:58 AM
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If the woman is actually attracted to and likes the man sure. The issue men have with it is when the woman isn’t actually attracted to them which I think is fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:16 AM
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yeah this rarely happens so this can’t really be used as an “all women” example. if that were the even a large minority of women i’d agree with u but it’s not
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:59 PM
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Or date women who are sexually attracted to you and want to sleep with you because they are horny
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:58 PM
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ur deflecting the reality that women and men value different things so what is a “privilege” to men is not one to women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 05:46 PM
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women don’t want hookups as often so it’s not a “privilege” for us and that ends at like 25 regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 04:38 PM
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that’s a small minority of the HOTTEST women. the average woman will NEVER have an opportunity like that you must know that
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 01:22 AM
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born with value that will 100% fade vs building value that can be kept a lifetime… i’d much rather build something that lasts a lifetime than my only value being something I have no control over
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 05:40 PM
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and aging will happen regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:32 PM
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Sexualizing below legal age women is pedophilia. If you have learned whatever the word is for sexualizing minors when they aren’t prepubescent and are putting that in a separate category all it does is make me believe u fall into said category. The difference is legality. Where are you finding that many girls lie about their age to make porn i’d love to see a source.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:26 PM
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born with but don’t KEEP everything that makes men attractive is something that can be built and kept.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:23 PM
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18 is an adult still and that is the legal age to film pornography so the teen videos within that category are still of adult women. that is different than what you were mentioning, age 12, which is still prepubescent for most girls. Only 1-5% of men are pedophiles it’s not a significant portion of men. Claiming that a significant portion of men are sexualizing 12-15 year olds is false (I hope) And if you truly believe that it is then why should women bother dating men who will perpetually be at…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:18 PM
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with the way ur defending this sounds like ur one of the guys creeping on high schoolers and know accurately that telling female partners will make them see you as a creep (which they will since you are) i absolutely think men are capable of being pedophiles tho lol but statistically it’s not a significant portion of men you saying it is leads me to believe that you or at least men you know fall into this category. Also a 15 year old isn’t a “young looking woman” that’s a girl. A 21 year old who…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 04:10 PM
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“not that it’s my thing” calling pedophilia just a “thing” is crazy work. if such a significant portion of men do this these men should not be dating and should be in therapy because they are pedophiles
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:51 PM
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Appearance wise if someone doesn’t fit my usual “type” i don’t go out of my way to share that. Other than that no.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/26 03:49 PM
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Tbh no. I date outside my type since my type isn’t available to me and i’m a realist but in the back of my mind my type is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 08:35 PM
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Start talking to and befriending other men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:50 PM
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i see this lust when i see a man with big muscles and think wow he’s sexy i want to fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:47 PM
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the difference is straight women want to have sex with and have lust for men hope this helps
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:54 PM
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always have liked tall white guys as my “type”. probably because i grew up primarily around tall white guys. have dated many outside this type tho. i am a white woman btw
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:24 PM
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I am more in the south yes 💔 def more purple than NYC but not as red as the carolina’s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 09:44 PM
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it’s always funny when men realize than monogamy only applies when being in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 02:27 PM
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how did they blame dogs?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 12:23 AM
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no one is assuming an ugly short fat man has the same dating experiences as a chad
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 06:37 PM
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yes 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 06:32 PM
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this is the dobler-dahmer theory from how i met your mother
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:09 PM
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okay rephrase then i’m pretty sure most women get approached irl constantly
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:41 AM
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hot women get approached irl constantly , so it’s not them approaching men but vise versa
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:38 AM
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what’s OLD ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:19 AM
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again this is proving my point why should women approach men and show desire towards them when u automatically sort her into the whore category lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 10:02 PM
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not every man i meet is a problem but every one of them has asked my body count and this has been true for all my girl friends as well and my guy friends have made it clear that they do ask, i think you may be somewhat removed from gen z to be commenting on their dating standards in this way
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:53 PM
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women DO want to sleep around but don’t because of people like u who compare them to objects for doing so that’s kinda my point
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:30 PM
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what’s the difference between a decent bit and a lot is the real question
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:18 PM
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Sex is a part of sexuality , it’s the biggest part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:18 PM
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if every man in my generation asks that question which every one i have met has, that leaves me with no options the type of person who asks that is officially most gen z men. i talked to my dad about this and he too was shocked
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:13 PM
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okay please look in my replies to see men saying they wouldn’t date someone who slept around and using the term town bicycle and then tell me they don’t have these rules
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:11 PM
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okay i’ll only fuck and date chads from now on and ignore all the men in my league thanks for the advice since i need to be so careful about picking i’ll pick the best
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:57 PM
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yeah but i don’t want a future partnership based on a lie??
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:35 PM
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or… and hear me out on this… men could stop hating women. i know that’s a crazy take tho
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:09 PM
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yeah but OP wants to know why women DONT desire men the same while u are proving my point that we are devalued if we do. men aren’t told to choose wisely cause every partner they have lessens their value
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:56 PM
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yes always dumped right after the question is asked lol! but it’s been every guy except my first bf and he didn’t ask because he already knew
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:10 PM
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lesbians and gays can fuck a bunch of people without it affecting their chance of marriage because that is par for the course in that culture. women cannot fuck a bunch of men and then still get married to an ideal partner usually. the lgbtq community tends to be once out of the closest a lot more sexually free
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:10 PM
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I do , this is obviously a personal anecdote but i usually see the most women hate from the men who get a LOT of women and then men who get NO women the men who get an average amount seem the most normal to me (personal anecdote not based in statistics)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:08 PM
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im 21, i think its dif for my gen
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:47 PM
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all of the men i have met have hated me then
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:21 PM
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don’t argue with this man he’s saying u have confirmation bias and then using the term town bicycle lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:20 PM
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Calling a woman who wants to fuck the town bicycle proves my point. U can’t have it both ways be good with women expressing sexuality which includes sex (shocker) or don’t be mad when women do it less
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:05 PM
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I think a good place to meet people is volunteer work and hobby groups! As a guy because most women have not unlearned certain programming u still will have to be the pursuer tho most likely
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 06:03 PM
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yes of course! you are the only woman who has not been affected by centuries of gender programming! the mythical chosen one! (i’m being sarcastic because every single human has been affected by this)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:42 PM
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Id dump a guy for doing that to me so wouldn’t care if they dumped me for doing it. Id also dump a guy for going to a strip club or watching porn tho so im prob an outlier. most women fine adhering to the “don’t go to the club rules” usually have criteria they want men to adhere to as well
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:41 PM
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this argument only works if the woman isn’t also supposed to generate income for the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:35 PM
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All men irl care about this i haven’t met a single man who doesn’t ask about body count so this commenter isn’t rlly experiencing confirmation bias
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:33 PM
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It does not feel heavy or defining to me but I also have purposefully repressed sexual urges since I learned what sex was to keep mine low enough it would be seen as acceptable to a future partner. Idk what generation ur in but every single man i’ve ever gone out with HAS asked so the “you don’t need to tell anyone” doesn’t rlly work and it’s a lose lose situation because IF you don’t tell them they assume it’s high and if you do tell them and it IS high then u get written off for romance. The o…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:26 PM
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You are invoking ‘dialectic vs rhetoric’ while avoiding the actual point being criticized. Dialectic would mean engaging with the substance of what you said: that men could collectively retaliate against women by openly encouraging juries to protect rapists. That’s not a neutral ‘logical reaction’ it’s literally proposing harm toward innocent women as leverage in a gender conflict. Pointing out the moral implication of your argument isn’t ‘just rhetoric’; it’s directly responding to the real wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:20 PM
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It’s different but not different enough that women want to have sex with people they find unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:13 PM
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it’s not a logical response to let presumed rapists walk free just to punish women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 05:02 PM
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how is it neurotic to say if a jury thinks a guy is a rapist they shouldn’t protect that man because that is unsafe behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:56 PM
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I agree with this plus I think more women are aware of the trafficking that can happen behind the screen and can’t “turn their brains off” to watch it and consume that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:55 PM
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idk why ur explaining this to me haha i am the number 1 erotica consumer LOL agree with all of this tho
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:50 PM
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I actually don’t like to lie to people i want to be in a life long commitment with. That must be shocking
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:48 PM
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yeah let’s help out the rapists! u sound like a predator rn with this
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:48 PM
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Second point alr does happen and has forever with male juries and judges
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:45 PM
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A lot of men are controlled by women and their desire for sex or a life partner but the same also goes for women. Which is why terms like “male centered” and “pick me” exist. Because their entire world revolves around getting a man but it’s usually in a less sexual way than men to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:45 PM
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Part of this is socialized though because women were seen as objects and therefore we have internalized that tho
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:41 PM
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hmmm idk if i agree with this most erotica has men who are really good at sex and are also described to be usually extremely tall and handsome. but also that still doesn’t rlly solve OPS problem since it’s fictional lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:36 PM
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lower than men =/= low
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:34 PM
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“desire us and fuck us but if you sleep around u will get placed into an entirely different category in our minds and not be able to get married”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:33 PM
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testosterone: women don’t have as much. plus if women hate being seen as sexual objects why would they project that onto men. plus women hear what men say about women with high body counts and have massively repressed sexuality. if i didn’t think it would keep me from getting married id fuck so much more and pursue men constantly. So combo of biology that is uncontrollable and societal pressure from which could absolutely be lessened.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:31 PM
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caring about your looks and improving your looks =/= being delusional about how you currently look
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 09:21 AM
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Your personal anecdote doesn’t change the many studies done. Also the content you see is designed to have a reaction from you, if you interact with that content regularly it is a reflection of the content that you tend to interact with not the world. Also when presented with actual data you refuse to accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 05:48 AM
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and yet somehow even with women over represented in the study than men there was STILL a higher concentration of grandiouse narcissism within the men than the women. If anything that makes the results more notable not less.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 05:42 AM
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Statistically speaking it’s still men there have been studies on this. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886924002162?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 05:13 AM
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they most certainly arent especially about their own looks
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 05:06 AM
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How are you a beta for meeting someone u have genuine interest in i cannot grasp this
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:47 AM
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okay but here this is also just agreeing women have options but don’t want to date unattractive people😭😭😭 this is still proving OPs point there isn’t a lack of options there is a lack of desire
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:41 AM
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Correct lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:38 AM
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But they actually are options, just not ones you like. Hence OPs point. If i said i had no options because i wouldn’t date a 4 or below everyone would say obviously you have options you just don’t want to date someone who is unattractive. And if you are fighting tooth and nail for a 4s attention it’s time to reevaluate how attractive you are because I have many 6+ guy friends and this is not an issue they have.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:37 AM
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Sounds like you have options you just don’t like them still lol. Options you fight for are still options. And every single romantic relationship requires “fighting” / genuine effort whether the woman is a 4 or a 10. Ur proving OPs point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:34 AM
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okay but this is literally what OP is saying. You DO have options (4/10 women) but you don’t like your options. This is different than an inability to have options.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:24 AM
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I think for some people both men and women they genuinely do have no options for romantic relationships. Moreso men than women. i don’t think any women truly have “no options” for casual sex though and a significant amount of men do. But these people who genuinely have no options for romance are outliers and tend to have some sort of immutable trait like being VERY ND or VERY unattractive. But yes most people just don’t want the options that are available to them. Men ultimately hate “hypergamy”…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:06 AM
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Also idk a single woman with a go bag who isn’t actively about to be leaving her partner. And i’ve never seen a single man get a paternity test when he was sure of fidelity. I don’t think either of these actions should be blocked but they would bring about the end of the relationship for me at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 03:42 AM
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They are equivalent in that if u trusted ur partner u would need neither, both of those seem like a relationship ender to me
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 02:40 AM
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tbh i think ur describing a good friend outside of the very few people who are asexual and date like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 04:34 PM
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no because STDs and pregnancy still exist
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 08:33 AM
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i dont think no anal is a deal breaker for most men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:48 PM
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I didn’t say i personally agree or disagree I personally do not want children for this reason. But just because you interpret something as selfish doesn’t mean it has no value to the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:21 PM
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it sounds like u don’t value pregnancy and labor then BECAUSE u are anti natalist. That doesn’t mean that action doesn’t have value or is not something the women “brings to the table” it just means it’s something YOU don’t value. But most men see the value in those things seeing that men want to be fathers more often than women want to be mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:18 PM
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yesssss anti natalism a great way to continue the world!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:09 PM
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I mean men’s lives change after kids too (or at least they SHOULD) and i don’t agree with your top .01% of men comment i think once children are born there will always be a biological response from most healthy mothers where they become the priority. Especially as young ones are in the home.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:08 PM
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Calling having kids a minor thing is crazy. People die in childbirth.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:06 PM
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yes you can consider yourself a feminist if u hate men lol and many do there is ur answer. all of those answers you listed DID provide your answer btw all of those are a version of “yes i hate them but i still advocate for them” like very obviously those all answered your question
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:55 PM
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uhhhhh where is ur evidence for this because most reasonable humans call choking without being asked assault and if you HAVE choked someone without asking that by definition is assault and not kink
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:20 PM
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well i think that blowjobs and anal should both be considered extra but i have been part of the actual bdsm community so that’s what i’m specifically thinking of. For example many women are being unconsensually choked because many men consider it a normal part of sex now when it so clearly isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:15 PM
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90s is only 3 decades ago… the world has existed long before that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:10 PM
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i agree with that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:08 PM
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both of those were considered kinky just like a few decades ago your opinion doesn’t negate that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:07 PM
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yes i agree that it will effect the woman’s life WAY more i wasn’t arguing that, what i was arguing is that many women are aware of that but the benefit of having the family is worth those drawbacks to them even if they accept that ultimately the drawbacks for them vs their partner will be unequal. do i think men should sweeten the pot? hell yes! but the reality is childbearing will NEVER be equal because men will never get pregnant and the women who choose to have children anyways KNOW this and…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:04 PM
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yup that’s what i was talking about, the up and down motion doesn’t do much for MOST women i have spoken to (not all) because the clit isn’t rlly touching skin most of the time when u are “up” but the grinding against the others body stimulates the clit
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:00 PM
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idk if i agree, if a woman WANTS to have children then they don’t mind the physical risk of pregnancy / want to do it for the benefit of having a child which means it’s different for this group. if the woman doesn’t want to have children and is expected to i agree with u tho
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:51 PM
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okay well this isn’t how orgasms tend to work for women riding is a sex act that men like better unless it’s the scooting thing men constantly say isn’t enjoyable for them 😭 most women don’t even orgasm from PIV they orgasm from clitoral stimulation
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:47 PM
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i feel like they have love to gain but what do i know. i agree with everything u said tho i do think that relationships tend to benefit men more but that doesn’t mean women have nothing to gain from a relationship where they would build a lifelong connection with someone
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:43 PM
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i actually agree to some degree with this that if it’s a sex act she truly liked and did many times with one or more partners past the age of 25 (frontal lobe development) then it IS probably a desire thing unless there has been a crazy hormone change. there is def some nuance here that OP hasn’t 100% taken into account imo
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:41 PM
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I do personally enjoy kink but the expectation drives me nuts
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:38 PM
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I desperately want kids lol i’m just going to adopt them if i don’t get married, im financially well off enough and have a supportive enough family i don’t need a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:36 PM
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why does kinky sex that women often don’t enjoy = “her best”?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:34 PM
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What bothers me is that what’s seen as kinky many years ago like blowjobs and anal are mainstream now so the “bar” for kinky and novelty sex keeps rising and it tends to be women’s bodies who have to pay for it. (not saying there arent men who’s saftey has also been impacted by kink)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:32 PM
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But a lot of times women experiment in their youth and it’s usually not with chads to learn what they like. If you had tried being a cuck one time and hated it would it be fair that each of your next partners excepted that just because you did it once before? But yes obvi the guy can leave her or vise versa for sexual incompatibility
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:29 PM
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leave and maybe slash tires also. someone who cheats on you is someone who is putting your health at risk and i am of the belief that there is no coming back from it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:58 AM
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Correct me if i’m wrong but what I learned was that it doesn’t increase or decrease trafficking but it makes the consumer a lot more aware of what IS trafficking since it becomes more obvious when it’s regulated by gov so it is more easily reported ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 04:37 AM
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women often hate men as a system not individual men where men often hate women as individuals AND as a system. Criticizing a group of people (men) who are historically and currently the were the most dangerous to women isn’t the same as using that same language about a group (women) that historically and currently are NOT the most dangerous group to men. While the language I agree is an issue and driving people further apart I have as much issue with it as i do with non white peoples saying simi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 05:08 PM
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if grow it out if i were you, also dating apps are notoriously not the best spot for guys to meet people . there are more men than women on those apps and so it’s quite skewed
/r/ExRedPill11/05/26 12:29 AM
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ur average (which from a dating standpoint isn’t bad almost all of us are average) but contacts and a dif haircut would put u above average
/r/ExRedPill11/05/26 12:24 AM
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1 of 2 things is happening : a lot of women don’t talk to guys anymore and vise versa, or u aren’t very good looking and it could rlly be either
/r/ExRedPill10/05/26 11:09 PM
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masturbating to gay porn is gay. but thinking men are hotter than women as a man is also gay lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:37 PM
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eh is it really natural selection when it’s so dysgenic
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:31 PM
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what are u talking about 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 05:47 AM
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No there isn’t, if most women are looking for top 10% men like all the RP guys claim then there is NOT a glut of available men that would fulfill what they look for
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 04:16 AM
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women still have sex with someone they… married ?? how is this a gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 04:05 AM
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When i was skinny literally didn’t effect anything at all and never even was mentioned when i am chubby it def mattered to every guy and always got brought up lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:46 AM
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I mean if it were IMPOSSIBLE to have sex before marriage fuck boys would just marry quick to fuck and then divorce lol we wouldn’t see fuckboys disappear we would see more divorces lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:35 AM
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sex =/= dating or love and your collage is not real data unlike this https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9905556/? which shows men have much more agreement on what is attractive (inter rate agreement of .5 for men vs women’s .25) than women which means women have 2 times more variance in what they find attractive ie less picky. And i on many occasions when i still was dating men i said “i want my sub 3 manlet back💔” (the only man ive ever loved was an ugly short guy)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:29 AM
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I think our disagreement on femcel is coming from a disagreement on the word means. In your scenario i agree this woman clearly cannot have sex BUT there are still men who hypothetically WOULD have sex with her. To me someone who is involuntarily celibate is someone who has NO ONE who would be WILLING to have sex with them not just an inability to have sex. But under your definition I would agree with you. And I agree with the biopsychosocial part in fact i actually think that’s the case for mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:20 AM
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because social skills are more changeable and most of them just want affirmation that it’s okay to wallow in their misery imo
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:06 AM
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Okay well i disagree with essentially everything else you said here tho lol men are super judgmental on appearance and there are incredibly unrealistic beauty standards for women. men will settle for average women then pleasure themselves to porn of attractive ones that doesn’t = not picky and if u even mention u don’t want a man to watch porn they throw a fit because they want access to beautiful women’s bodies
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:03 AM
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idk what those are sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:00 AM
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Some people think good old fashioned positivity and effort can overcome anything! I was just explaining to the person asking why I am blackpilled and i thought that was a good example of it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 03:00 AM
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Yes I do believe that femcels are not actually involuntary celibate that is correct and i don’t think it’s misogynistic to claim that all women could find a man to fuck them when it’s so obviously true. Now could it be the most hideous disgusting man? Yeah probably but if a hideous man wants to fuck you and you won’t fuck then it … is voluntary. HOWEVER i also believe a lot of incels are also voluntary celibate and just not fucking the people who would actually fuck them (hideous obese women) ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:56 AM
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Good social skills and a better appearance are positive in every regard and will open doors in all areas of your life not just dating , as an ND folk i can promise it does ! i have OCD and ADHD and if i mask my symptoms the people i meet are people who want me to continue masking my symptoms because that is who i have advertised myself as. but the people i meet as myself do not have that same expectation because i haven’t advertised it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:27 AM
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I am not a femcel because I don’t believe femcels are a real thing. Incel means involuntarily celibate and any woman who is celibate is only doing so voluntarily therefore the term isn’t real. Blackpill is the belief that your life is predetermined by your genes which I believe is true. Even with the scientific measures we have today there are certain genetic caps that can never be beat. You can get all the plastic surgery in the world but not everyone becomes a model with it because the base ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:21 AM
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Yes, there are studies that show men need romantic relationships more than women because men live longer when in one whereas women do not have this benefit. So obviously romantic relationships are more important for men from a health standpoint and while woman can be fulfilled without them men from a health standpoint clearly can’t be.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:16 AM
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Well if you aren’t yourself then whoever you attract will end up leaving once u drop the act so yeah but i also think u can “be yourself” while learning optimal social skills and optimizing your appearance to open the most doors possible but i wouldn’t say that’s not “yourself” it’s just the best version of yourself. I also disagree with what you said at the end even ND people should be themselves so they can figure out who is going to be compatible with them as is. If you aren’t yourself as an …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:12 AM
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I don’t know what else I can say, I feel like I met my person and I am very grateful to have felt love like that even if it didn’t last but I am also certain it won’t happen again because it certainly hasn’t and it’s been about 3 years and even before that i never had felt something like that before
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:05 AM
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there are almost as many women who are single as men, it’s only like 10% more men or something so what about you wouldn’t women need them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 02:03 AM
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Do you think women should at the same time all get AI boyfriends
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:25 AM
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if i gave u a bag of potato chips and told u one was poisoned but the rest were totally fine, would you eat the chips?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:23 AM
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I mean being busy and fulfilled in other areas can MITIGATE it and for women it seems like it CAN be replaced but for men i’d agree
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:23 AM
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Quickly and then it sticks forever i have only loved one guy and i probably will never love someone again. and no he was not a chad before the incels start talking about that he was an average looking guy of average height who was extremely intelligent and i found that to be very sexy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:21 AM
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Actually I just looked into it further and it’s the other way around there is more variance in women’s ratings than men’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 11:18 PM
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OP look over here, this is exactly why
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:28 PM
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yes but again the “struggle” here is still that the girl didn’t want to do something sexual with the perceived man whether or not their was mixed messaging the let down the “man” experienced all the same was not getting sexual activity soon enough which is what i said mens struggle is so again not sure how this negates that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:25 PM
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reddit isn’t the only social media and nor did i say that i myself was doing this online. i have male friends in real life who i am talking about , i don’t tell random people online they are ugly rather im just honest with my male friends about why they are actually struggling in dating rather than giving them some it’s ur personality BS when it’s obviously not
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:19 PM
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YOU ALL?!?! not me partner i tell ugly men they are ugly and how to improve and OFTEN have said someone’s dating struggles are likely just because of their appearance. women are not a monolith just like men aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:12 PM
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i hate to agree with this guy because he is annoying me here but he’s actually right there are studies that show women’s taste in appearance is far more ubiquitous than men’s, not that men DONT have traits they ubiquitously see as attractive but men’s ratings of the same person tend to vary more than women’s
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:11 PM
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I’m telling you that it’s a non zero risk so i’m not going to do that. Not all snakes are venomous either but i’m not going to go agitate some random snake i don’t know. if ur looking for honesty on appearance get it online, less people will lie to you because there is NO chance of them being physically hurt for saying something negative unlike irl where it is not a 0 percent chance
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:07 PM
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if the button also gave women the same rights that men have globally i would in a heartbeat. if it meant switching dating roles but everything else stays the same absolutely not
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:07 PM
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Saftey issue , didn’t u see that video of the 15 year old girl who got curb stomped for not wanting to give out her number? Women virtue signal sometimes as a way to remain safe
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:03 PM
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No they don’t women always tell me exactly what they want
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 12:24 AM
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An attractive girl magically falling into their lap with zero effort IS exceptional results
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 12:22 AM
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where does OP say that ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 12:22 AM
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this was a hard read i hope it’s fake, but it brings up the very real question of clone a willy decorum post breakup
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 12:17 AM
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Any preference on appearance and height is superficial. That being said there is no such thing as too picky and men should be as picky as they want to be as long as they understand it also limits their choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 12:13 AM
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Even in this the “struggle” she is complaining about is that the girl didn’t makeout or fuck her soon enough or on schedule which is exactly what i said mens struggle with dating is so not sure how this disproves that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:34 PM
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I mean if they were doing it in a way that wasn’t misogynistic and demeaning towards women there wouldn’t be a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:26 PM
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why can’t u be a nice guy and learn seduction they aren’t mutually exclusive
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:24 PM
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why do u think i have very little experience with men lol, it sounds like u are denying my experience because it invalidates your claims on women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:42 PM
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and here’s another time when you have decided that because my experience does not align with your reality that it is wrong i have dated many women and men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:41 PM
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THIS OH MY GOD women not lying to get sex makes dating so much easier i’ve never had a woman future fake me for sex purposes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:14 PM
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yea and when my experience didn’t match the “women are picky and difficult and it’s not straight men’s fault” opinion he was clearly fishing for he went as far as to tell me i don’t understand people lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:12 PM
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you asked for anecdotal experiences and i just shared mine. i find it way easier to date women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:38 PM
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Tbh i think if ur being polite cold approaching isn’t bad jsut don’t be surprised if u get a fake number or something since women don’t really feel like they can say no on the spot but i think usually this method gets the most return
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:15 PM
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I feel like a lot of these traits women should or do do as well. Idk I would just call all of this being polite and i don’t think being polite to someone u will never see again is performative
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:13 PM
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only one STR and he was average height and ugly but he was SO good at chess i thought it was so hot
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:12 PM
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Actually it was the other way around for me as a bi woman I find it WAY easier to get and date women and it made me have LESS sympathy for straight guys tbh. Sleeping with men is easier but DATING women is WAY easier and it made me realize most of men’s complaints are just women not sleeping with them soon enough lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:10 PM
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it shows men ASSUME women have it easier yes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 10:37 AM
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LOL it’s have higher standards until they actually do
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 07:01 PM
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Your personal annecdote doesn’t change the reality that statistically when men CHOOSE to ask for custody they tend to get it. You can’t “not agree this at all” to a proven statistic lmfao facts don’t care about your feelings. Also men not asking for custody is proof of them being bad fathers not of women driving them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:17 PM
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unable to sit still is different than always wanting to do something though
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 02:32 PM
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people like ambition
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 02:31 PM
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I do otherwise I wouldn’t say so. statistically anytime a man asks for custody he is more likely to get it than women but men just don’t ask lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 02:28 PM
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If they were such good fathers they wouldn’t be pushed out
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:41 PM
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“It's bad for society because it incentives women to become single mothers” - how would be a mothers fault if the guy left her
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 04:36 AM
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Parthenogenesis hasn’t even been made a viable option yet for mass reproduction
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:28 AM
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I think that male sexuality CAN become a problem and statistically we know that it does become one but it is not inherently a problem for every single heterosexual man. And teaching appropriate avenues for it would help it become less of a problem which is a more realistic solution than men just becoming aroace haha (even though i know this was obviously a hypothetical) I also do think teaching men that sexual urges are inherently bad or immoral isn’t a great move and is more likely to cause pen…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:18 AM
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Well then the world would cease to exist so idk about that , if a heterosexual man demonstrates the behaviors you are talking about it’s proof of him being an impulsive and violent person but not all heterosexual men get that way. I think we should focus on teaching men safe avenues to express lust and what’s appropriate rather than deem all male sexuality bad. And that that would be better than if all men were “aroace” although to be clear there is nothing wrong with this sexuality and i am dem…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 03:04 AM
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So your point is you’re fine with women being subjugated so that they need you to provide for them since you benefit from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 01:15 PM
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It’s almost like that was a job and not your romantic life. Work by its very essence is transactional. You provide labor for a salary that is a transaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 01:05 PM
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its almost like sex is not something you need to live but food water and shelter which are purchased with money from a job are…. crazy. Also women shame men because men shame the women in those industries while actively profiting off their bodies. Also because sex trafficking exists. In a perfect world I see no issue with any of those things listed. Btw the travel bros are called “losers back home” by women abroad so women aren’t really shaming them as much as calling a spade a spade.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:52 PM
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They want women to desire them then get mad when women won’t settle lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:47 PM
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funny how that’s also exactly what u did to me.. are you slow?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:45 PM
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why would you want to be in demand for something completely transactional
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:42 PM
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“im fine with a woman who only wants me for my money because i can’t get one elsewise even though this is not real love and is purely transactional” and if women having rights excludes u from affection ur a loser
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:42 PM
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he meant fox news lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:22 PM
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“i’m a loser who can only get laid when women are subjugated because a woman with equality and freedom would never choose me”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:20 PM
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And yes women who “need” men financially are much more likely to end a relationship with a man the moment he loses his job statistically. So it’s not real love lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:15 PM
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Men shouldn’t need women, women shouldn’t need men. Every single person should be able to survive on their own equally so that when partnership is CHOSEN it is actually a choice. And if you believe that now that women have rights it endangers your chance of being chosen: YOU ARE A LOSER who never had anything to offer other than ur wallet despite complaining that’s all women wanted you for.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:15 PM
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more women vote overall but out of the total voters more MEN voted for donald trump than women. So i’m assuming you also are blaming each of them for the deaths abroad as well? Also far before women could vote our presidents sent good young men to die in war. Men in power have always been responsible for the deaths of these other young men and now that women have any polling power you are using an issue that has existed FOREVER to take away women’s rights. And women are more likely to be left (a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:09 PM
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A man sends other men to die and somehow it’s women’s fault? get a grip
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:00 PM
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why do you believe all women have an abundance of choice when this isn’t true. ATTRACTIVE women have an abundance of choice just like ATTRACTIVE men do. average and below average women may har slightly more options than average or below average men but it’s certainly not an abundance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:06 AM
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check dms!!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:56 AM
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let me collect may take me a second brb
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:48 AM
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they ask women to give chances to cheaters and previous misogynists and previous porn addicts or even current porn addicts which many average men are. not just tall millionaires are cheaters and misogynists. you are being dense. men constantly ask women to date reformed men and get angry when women say they will not date previous cheaters, or misogynists or porn addicts and say their standards are too high and they will die alone. this post is a nothing burger. YES some women deceive themselves …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:44 AM
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you guys say men can change and give reformed men a chance and then blame women for doing so lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:27 AM
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discussions based off nonsense happen on reddit frequently
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 11:07 AM
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i agree but i don’t think it’s by a large margin
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:57 AM
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all of those women still can fall under : young, pretty, with low WHR (which tend to be the more rigid standards men use) so it doesn’t really negate my point just like women also like muscular men, skinny men, men with body hair, men with no body hair but all of those men can still fall under tall and handsome (which tend to be the more rigid standards women use) i’m just saying there are a few criteria most men and women do use subconsciously even if it isn’t ok
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:44 AM
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men like young, pretty women with a low WHR pretty ubiquitously.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:26 AM
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“men can judge women on something they can’t control but women can’t do the same” less harsh judgement doesn’t mean none. body and stature is a part of the “appearance package” for every single person this includes men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:24 AM
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just out of curiousity do you think men judging women on boob size, butt size or WHR for overall attractiveness is “an overblown thing” i assume u do because those are just as arbitrary as height
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:13 AM
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how people get sorted into uggo vs hottie has always been superficial
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:12 AM
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if you believe dating should operate in a free market without interference than your observation (even if it is incorrect which in my personal opinion it is) doesn’t even matter
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 12:42 AM
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men are only willing to date a notch or two below on everything other than looks. notice how being cute is still listed when dating down. so it still isn’t actually dating down lmfao they just value different things than women do
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 12:30 AM
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“most guys seem to be ok with someone who’s their equivalent or even a notch or two below as long as she’s cute enough” you admit what men value u women for is their looks and then complain when women recognize this as well. women are aware they need to bring nothing to the table if they are good looking enough because that is what men value. also more women graduate college now then men while still doing most domestic labor so women probably even by your definition are still bringing more to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 12:27 AM
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and also women get negative pushback for their standards and boundaries all the time “ur delusional” “ur gonna die alone” stuff along those lines . literally look at the responses to any woman ever who has said she doesn’t want a partner who watches porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 11:21 AM
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it really only is an issue when it’s a double standard. no one is taking a broke woman’s pronouncement of not wanting a brokey seriously just like no one is taking a high body count mans pronouncement of not wanting a woman with a high body count seriously . men talk about their standards a lot and the only pushback i usually see is when he himself doesn’t meet the standards he is asking for of a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 11:17 AM
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the only issue with red pill is when it’s paired with misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 03:33 PM
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there is no where in the world where men are not allowed to speak simply for being men. that means women are still oppressed. you also didn’t say women in the west anywhere in your post you said WOMEN.
/r/ExRedPill22/04/26 11:57 PM
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There are women in afghanistan who cannot speak right now simply for being a woman. women are oppressed. you aren’t “slipping” into a toxic headspace ur alr there lol
/r/ExRedPill22/04/26 11:55 PM
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i mean women are oppressed, why does reality make u mad at women rather than the systems that oppress them?
/r/ExRedPill22/04/26 11:50 PM
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The average women is not in her 20s nor is she skinny with DDs
/r/ExRedPill04/03/26 07:15 AM
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sydney sweeney is NOT on the same level as the average barista that is not what most women look like. the fact you believe this means you do not know what average women look like
/r/ExRedPill04/03/26 07:12 AM
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okay i’m not saying that this surgery isn’t ridiculous and a byproduct of unrealistic standards : it is. However the modern equivalent of this for women is bbls and boob jobs and the countless other surgeries women go through to be better looking at the expense of their health and possibly life. Like health threatening aesthetics procedures for women are not a thing of the past 😭 and it’s statistically WAY more common to see women getting ANY aesthetics procedure. although men’s percentage has b…
/r/MensRights31/12/25 11:22 AM
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to some degree yes, the obsessive thoughts over past partners is a common ROCD intrusive thought and COULD be ROCD if he has OCD however the secondary implication he has for her and seeing her in a derogatory light because of the repetitive intrusive thought (he used the word whore) is because he sees women as lesser than men subconsciously or consciously.: so it’s 2 different therapies one for unlearning redpill and his subconscious bias of seeing women as lesser and secondary to that would be …
/r/ExRedPill31/12/25 11:11 AM
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