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I'm probably A-OK with the things you consider anti-white racism and discrimination. I'm not blind to genuine racism from people of colour though, including racism and discrimination aimed at whites.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 03:51 PM
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Jesus Christ at the fucking comments here. I sometimes think I’m on a subreddit with decent people because I forget how disgustingly racist some of you are. EDIT: Lmao, took me a while to see how easily I handwaved a lot of the sexism and misogyny in here. So I guess when I say decent people I mean "okay despite their sexism and misogyny".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 09:18 AM
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I don’t doubt anything you said but I was more talking about situations where there already were rumours of iffy behaviour or an affair and the new relationship seemed to “confirm” it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 08:59 AM
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Not really where the affair was out in the open but I've witnessed break-ups where it seemed very likely that the woman was cheating. Often because she almost immediately jumped into another relationship. An acquaintance of mine went through a divorce because his wife was obsessed with their neighbour. She ended up following the dude to Britain immediately after and leaving their child with the dad. It was heartbreaking and for a moment the dude feared that it wasn't actually his child. They wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 09:30 PM
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Men and women both cheat for a wide variety of reasons. Making a gendered distinction is stupid. Having said that, I'd much rather my girlfriend came to me and admitted to cheating because she needed a good dicking and I wasn't around than that she did it because she had fallen out of love with me and in love with someone else. That second one seems way worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 06:05 PM
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Yeah, I don't get why so many women online claim that most casual sex isn't good.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 06:02 PM
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extremely partisan politics and tribalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 02:47 PM
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Do you think you lack agency, are less logical than the men in your life and would branchswing from your partner for a more valuable one? I cannot imagine being a woman and thinking this list is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/17 07:43 AM
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I'm guessing socialization. As weird as it might sound, growing up it was very clear that my parents were both very physically attracted to one another. I've always known it to be an important part, initially even the most important, of any sexual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 09:08 PM
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I don't feel sad for people who have all of these weird expectations of life and of other people and who get sad if those expectations don't get met. It's a way of thinking that I just cannot empathize with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 09:04 PM
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Do you find it difficult to separate out sex as something that happens as a result of attraction; and not good deeds? No, not at all. I've always known sex to be the result of mutual attraction. Did you ever believe that sex or attraction was something that was rewarded because you "deserve it" for being a good person? If yes, explain. If no, explain how you figured it out? No. It's not even something I figured out. I just never thought of sex that way. Are you disheartened that sex is a manifes…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 08:32 PM
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I think anything an FA type says needs to be taken with a truckload of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 07:21 PM
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Yeah, this is basically the case for most foreveralone types.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 07:11 PM
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I guess the masculine one. I’ll be her trophy husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 06:05 PM
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No, not always. It can fluctuate over time and be equal for periods too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 04:46 PM
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I don’t think it’s a matter of worse off. Sure, there might be a hypothetical relationship that will make them happier than being single but how realistic is it that they’ll get it? Relationships can also detract from happiness after all. People are resilient. We can be happy in all kinds of situations. So yeah, I do think it’s possible to be happy single forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/17 04:41 PM
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Amazing that a joke about an interracial romance counts as a personal attack.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 08:06 PM
1

I think I'll stick with my version. She's just letting herself get slapped around by rough-and-tumble blue-collar white guys when all she really wants is for big ole Jamal to hold her and whisper sweet nothings into her ear.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 04:46 PM
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I know that when I don't know what to do with myself I also turn towards a flamboyant asshole who looks like he's supposed to host the next Hunger Games.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 04:40 PM
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Yeah, reading how common that was just made dating seem all that more unappealing. Nothing more humiliating than thinking you're having a great night with someone while she's actually terribly uncomfortable and utterly disgusted with you. If I wanted that experience I'd just go see a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 04:34 PM
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I know. Where I'm from you can buy alcohol at 18. Hell, growing up you could buy beer and wine at 16.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 04:28 PM
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Well, women are right to fear a backlash because it’s happened before concerning the women’s movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 06:02 AM
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My pet theory is that she’s got alpha-widowed by a black dude and still hasn’t gotten over it. So now she just dates KKK members.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/17 05:59 AM
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Just go to the top stickied post on thebluepill. Provides plenty of quotes and examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 11:04 PM
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You think the red pill says the equivalent of all men are dogs? Come on son, the red pill often goes a lot farther than that. People don't need some large fucked up ideology with its own language and it's own fucking canon of texts just to learn how to flirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 10:45 PM
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Like I said, red pill doesn't have exclusive rights to those things. Being blue pill doesn't mean you're acting out of character when you're flirting. Blue pillers dislike the red pill because of the angry misogynist language. Not because you guys like going to the gym and flirting with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 10:38 PM
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Of course it's important if you want to pick women up that you learn how to gauge a woman's interest in you and know how to read a room. Every time you flirt you risk the possibility of getting turned down. That's just a part of life. To avoid as much rejection as you can you have to ease into the flirting through charming conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 10:27 PM
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Playful teasing, making physical contact, subtly bringing up the topic of sex or bringing attention to each other's bodies, using innuendo, that kind of thing. I mean, do you think the red pill invented or holds a patent on seduction or something? Being "blue pill" doesn't mean refraining from common flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 10:16 PM
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It's a 14 year age difference. And I'm not saying I agree with that interpretation. It's just the one I see primarily since the story has gone viral. I personally don't think he's an especially bad guy either. And Margot's not some victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 09:23 PM
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Take pride in your looks, be extroverted, be witty and know how to introduce sexual tension into a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 08:28 PM
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Creepy behaviour should only be behaviour that ignores another person's indications that whatever you are doing is unwanted or behaviour that's completely out of the accepted social norms. So the solution to "creep-shaming" would be for everyone to only use the word in that way and not overextend it. That's obviously never gonna happen, people use words in ways they were not intended all the time. So I'm not sure there is a solution or if it's even needed. I guess the next best thing is to make …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 04:48 PM
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Yeah, I'm seeing all the comments about people changing their minds. I've been here for about a year and I haven't really seen a lot of views changing, to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 04:24 PM
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Ah, I hadn't seen your quote. I agree that they're both meant to be flawed characters but I think the story leans a lot more on the side of Margot than on Robert's. That's not bad but it leads to a lot of people interpreting Robert in the worst possible light. Anyway, that's how I interpreted based on the story itself and also the reception it has gotten.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 04:22 PM
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So how is this hurting their prospects? It seems more like a choice for quantity over quality which isn't necessarily the wrong choice. Especially since quality is quite subjective and there are plenty of men and women who don't want a quiet chaste girl or a doting beta husband. A lot of people are probably turned off by those two types.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 04:18 PM
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Yeah, that's how I saw the Robert character too. I think the people who are especially critical of him have a hard time imagining a man making mistakes out of insecurities and inexperience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 04:16 PM
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The story was inspired by a small but nasty encounter I had with a person I met online. I was shocked by the way this person treated me, and then immediately surprised by my own shock. The point at which she receives unequivocal evidence about the kind of person he is is the point at which the story ends. Well, he buys her alcohol, even though he knows she’s underage, and he tells her that he thinks she’s drunk right before he takes her home. So I don’t think his hands are entirely clean. In the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 04:14 PM
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Based on the responses but also an interview with the author and an article she forwarded, I think the main point seems to be that Margot does the things she does because she's always mindful of Robert's feelings. What's so relatable is supposedly this cultural pressure to always think about other people (especially men) before one thinks of themselves. I think the last few texts from Robert are also supposed to function as a kind of reveal. As if they show the dangerous and assholish person Rob…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 04:01 PM
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I'm not sure how I feel. I could empathize with both characters but I also disliked both a little. I do think the reception has been too unkind towards Robert.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 12:32 PM
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Probably a turn-off for most women but effeminate men have their fans too. So an effeminate man should just be himself so he can be happier with the women who are turned on by that instead of unhappily repressing that side in order to chase a woman he’s incompatible with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/17 04:24 AM
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Of course people aren’t going to change their views because of some random strangers on an anonymous forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 10:31 PM
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Yeah, I definitely agree that the narrow definition of masculinity idolized in the manosphere is very harmful. Mostly because it's done by men who are angry and distraught because they think they're failing at reaching that "ideal".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 04:55 PM
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I tried that once. I became a bully first year of high school. It did briefly make me more popular and it got me flirting with a bunch of girls but I also failed academically. Besides, I think I can be just as flirty and popular without being an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 04:53 PM
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I mean, the manosphere is filled with "alpha-worshipping" and often makes it seem like women can only ever have truly good sex with an "alpha Chad". So I can understand the self-hatred. Personally, I'm filled with self-hatred but I know that it's irrational and caused by my mental illness. I don't actually hate the fact that I'm not a belligerent, aggressive, domineering asshole or that I'm great with kids, for example. When it comes down to it, I wouldn't want to be anyone else. I've never seen…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 04:47 PM
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Here's the thing tho. This thread seems to be about two different things. On the one hand, it seems to be about women doing things with exes that they wouldn't do with you. Now, I think there are plenty of reasonable explanations for why that is. Like, if I had a great satisfying relationship with someone and I brought up the possibility of anal, just to try it once, and she told me she tried it before and absolutely hated it I'm going to be completely okay with that. Everyone has their boundari…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 02:20 PM
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No, you misunderstood my comment. Obviously, women can just love freaky shit without being insecure. But, those women will do that freaky shit with every man they sleep with. It's not like a submissive, anal-loving, threesome-having, deepthroat-champion girl is gonna reserve her kinks for certain dudes. And if such a girl keeps her kinks to herself with someone it will be because she believes he won't like them. What I was talking about was a girl saying yes to things she hates because she felt …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 12:20 PM
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How many girls are out here doing anal gangbangs? You think Alice the college student is getting anally gangbanged by a whole Frat cause her hot boyfriend Chad asked her to?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 11:35 AM
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You’ve got google, right? I find that NTR often has more non-consent (i.e. The girl gets raped into liking the other guy). There is also less of a focus on physical differences between the boyfriend and the man she cheats with. Often, the guy is fat or old. Instead, there is a bigger focus on differences in status and personality. There is also no race element like there often is in cuckoldry. The differences aren’t huge or anything l, NTR is basically just Japanese for cuckoldry, but they’re th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 11:10 AM
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Imagine you’re a freshman in college and have just started dating. It’s all a little new to you and so you do what you think is expected of men and take every girl to a fancy restaurant and pay for everything. But as you grow as a person you become more confident and more comfortable with yourself. You stop feeling this need to impress others and start take girls out on simple dates like a stroll through a park or to a nice bar where you split the bill. Wouldn’t it be stupid to think that you ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 04:45 AM
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NTR stands for netorare. It is basically the Japanese version of cuckoldry. It usually plays out a little differently. And just reverse the genders. Do you think anal is something men only do with hot women or would they be up for it with any girl attractive enough to fuck? And do you think men are so weakminded that they’d do shit they hated just because the woman is hot enough? Like, even Beyonce wouldn’t get to finger my ass. Women enjoy sex and want to enjoy it with every men they sleep with…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/17 04:28 AM
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My buddy was her first. They met when she was in high school. I'm not the type to inquire into other people's sex-lives but he's told me some of the things they do and he always sounds very satisfied. And you can't negotiate attraction and sexual chemistry but you can base your decisions on it. Just like men, women usually want to date men they feel attraction and sexual chemistry with. Like, the ideas you find in posts such as the one you quoted are straight out of cuckold erotica or NTR hentai…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 07:59 PM
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I've read it. It's stupid as fuck. My best friend recently had a baby with his girlfriend. If any red piller saw he involved and nurturing he is with his son they'd call him a cuck or a betabux. Especially since he has zero problems opening up to her. But he's always been very happy with his sex-life. This idea that women will only have great sex when they're treated as toys by uncaring men is fucking ridiculous. Women, like men, want sex to be great. They want to have pleasurable, wild, fun, di…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 07:12 PM
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I mean, what's there to think about? If it's true, good for him. If it's all lies, kinda sad to create a fake persona like that. Also, what kind of dude beats his dad up or lies about beating his dad up? That's just fucked up either way. I don't need a long post by some random stranger to know that getting very attractive and going out a lot/pursuing a lot of women will result in success. It'll result in relationships/hookups when you're acting like a cocky dick and it'll result in those things …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 06:28 PM
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If red pillers thought women acted like men they wouldn't be worried at all. The problem is the very selective way they look at women's behaviour and how they always interpret every scenario involving a woman in the absolute worst way. If they afforded women the same complexity as they know they have themselves they wouldn't be so scared and insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 01:33 PM
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I see you talking about commitment a lot in the comments but why would you think commitment is necessarily what men want? Lots of men just want sex so it isn’t a downgrade when women just want sex too. I think women simply have more freedom to do what they want nowadays and that’s not a negative shift at all. Your observations only really hold true for men that feel like they’re too unattractive/insecure to enjoy the increased access to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 06:05 AM
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PPD and Reddit in general are a distraction from life. I find it pretty addicting because it’s a way of “socialising” for an introvert like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/17 05:55 AM
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I don’t just need to enjoy looking at her. I also need to enjoy spending time with her. There needs to be an air of playfulness and sexual tension before I’d make a move.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 06:03 AM
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Nah, it will hopefully just teach men to make advances at the appropriate times and to be aware of the ways in which their behaviour can be intimidating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 05:58 AM
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Hot looks, chemistry and sexual compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/17 05:56 AM
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Traditionally, it’s the one doing the pursuing that has to buy the flowers, plan the dates, propose, etc. I am not saying women don’t do those things or that current heterosexual dating dynamics will never change but right now, it’s clearly men who are more often expected to do such things. Being the pursuer means making the romantic gestures. Going by the abstract, this article is more about beliefs than actions but I think it’s logical that the gender doing the romanticism holds more romantic …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 11:01 PM
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As the ones who've historically been tasked with the romantic pursuit, it's not all that surprising that men have a greater need for romantic beliefs than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 09:36 PM
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I assume for the same reason the rest of us are here. Because they fucking enjoy it. Lots of people enjoy spreading their ideas and mentoring others.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 03:40 PM
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So now you want a debate about an obvious nondebate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 02:19 PM
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Please don't project your insecurities about spending time on Reddit on the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 06:32 AM
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Feminist dogma? You think it's weird to consider consent vitally important? And #metoo was a hugely disruptive movement this year (probably next year too) that has toppled incredibly powerful men that seemed untouchable a year ago. So yes, I do think it's worthy of this award. This indicates that we are living in a victimhood culture?!? Not all the dumbass white people voting for an incompetent, monstrously stupid, trolling, narcissistic, lying moron just because they felt aggrieved by all those…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/17 06:30 AM
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Probably incompatible with me because we're about a decade apart. Beyond that, there is obviously nothing wrong with single 34-year-old women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 06:16 PM
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Y'all live in a different world from mine. I do not recognize the way you describe boys at all. And even if you think it's just certain boys who get walked over because of their devotion to certain values, I'd argue that it's more their shyness and naivety that makes them an easy target and not their values.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 06:10 PM
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Not sure it's sensible to think anyone can understand this dude's love life on the basis of his public image. There could be any number of reasons why he's not been very lucky when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 06:06 PM
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You've never heard of nuns? Or women who want some Eat.Pray.Love bullshit?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 06:02 PM
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First of all, I don't need someone who does all the housework, makes a lot of money or is in her early twenties. Second of all, I've never thought of myself as a prize to be won.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 05:59 PM
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Of course, our psychology also came about through evolution. But human culture isn't just shaped by evolution, it also shapes it in turn. Plus, I think that our psychology is more malleable and fluid than our bodies. So while I believe in evolutionary psychology as a theory, I still take actual findings from the science with a grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 08:02 AM
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Now I just feel bad for leaving two passive-aggressive bitch comments on the same post.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/17 07:56 AM
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Did you deliberately pick a photo where he was with a woman with a more masculine jaw than him lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 11:23 PM
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You watch a war movie and think about high-value versus low-value men and the rates at which they get laid? Son, you really need to get off this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 11:22 PM
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Yes, it could. I'd find it a weird way of coming onto someone even if I was interested but I could be taken for example. In that case, I'd feel uncomfortable by them locking the door and touching me unwantedly. I'd probably avoid them and if they didn't react immediately to my rejection I'd have no problem reporting them for sexual misconduct.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 06:56 PM
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Being forced to work for someone's time makes it seem like their time is more valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 06:49 PM
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It's fine, no need to apologize. I was just referring to the common redditor stereotype. Anyway, I was just using this post to make a larger comment about certain attitudes you often see here. I wasn't trying to attack you or your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 02:32 PM
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Being a small part of something bigger is not how I'd characterize the kind of thing Atlas was talking about. To use red pill parlance, it's more a distaste towards people who feel like their natural position in life is to be the first mate instead of the captain. You can be part of something bigger or submit to some greater goal without being submissive specifically to another person.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 02:02 PM
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Where are you getting from that I feel personally attacked? It was meant as an amusing observation about some of the content on this subreddit. I get why you made the post. I'm not attacking you for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 01:58 PM
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I get the context of this post. It still fits into a larger trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 01:39 PM
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I think you're right about submission being repulsive to our generation. I get it as a sexual kink but the idea of "giving yourself over for keeping" is just crazy to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 01:36 PM
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I'm not offended. I'm simply amused at the way people continuously offer up the most obvious of observations as if they wouldn't be shared by almost everyone on this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 01:34 PM
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I swear some of y'all must think you're the only ones on this subreddit actually living normal lives and having normal opinions. Probably imagine the rest of us are literally confined to our rooms, surviving on cheeto dust, mountain dew and our autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 12:11 PM
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I don't see how the gender of the lead impacts the movie. And sometimes a female lead can improve a movie. Charlize Theron and the whole female angle of the story made Mad Max even greater than all the crazy stunts.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 11:36 AM
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For the pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 06:51 AM
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This seems like a fairly obvious observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/17 06:50 AM
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Okay, I guess it's good you know what you want out of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 09:17 PM
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the best thing I can do with my life is make little baby versions of my future husband Jesus Christ, not even baby versions of yourself... So the best thing you can do with your life is act as a supporting player in someone else's?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 08:53 PM
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1950s anything but especially gender relations.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 04:28 PM
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You have to be either crazy or ignorant to want to go back to the fifties.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 04:02 PM
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Maybe but that's not what I've witnessed among the men I know. Some men feel more secure and confident in romantic relationships while others simply prefer it over casual sex. Most of the men in relationships I know chose that relationship over casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 02:19 PM
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What the fuck does that honestly even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 02:17 PM
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So going by your definitions of alpha and beta, you think most men want to sleep around but can't? Most men I know want relationships just as much if not more as they want casual sex. Not many relationships I witness are ones where the man had to reluctantly settle because he couldn't get the sex he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 08:03 AM
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I see no epidemic of unattractive men. So there’s no need for anything to be done. Any man that feels unattractive can work on that himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/17 05:52 AM
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All this "what do you have to offer" shit is so stupid. I assume that, being an adult, you're capable of surviving and maintaining whatever lifestyle it is you enjoy all on your own. You don't need anyone else for that. So relationships, platonic, sexual or romantic, are just about enjoying another person. I've never in my life made some mental list checking what all my friends and family really offer me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 09:29 PM
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I really have no idea because I have no experience to base it on but I feel like I'm a 4. That's what I'm like with friends and family at least. Most ideal is obviously 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 04:28 PM
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I think being yourself is about pursuing your own happiness. It isn’t incompatible with criticism of inactivity or a life of mere contentment. It’s like the difference between a political party based on actual ideals and one that revolves around saying whatever they think a majority of people want to hear. Just because you tell a party to be the former doesn’t mean you’re telling them not to go out and campaign to win votes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/17 09:47 AM
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Depends on the kind of asshole. If it's just someone oblivious to how fucking annoying they are you tell them that they're being annoying. A lot of assholes just haven't been told to stop when growing up and now think everybody loves their shtick. If they're the kind that deliberately tries to disrespect you or get a rise out of people you either get away from them or tell them to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 11:17 PM
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Saw it for the first time earlier this year and I already want to watch it again. It's so good.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 11:13 PM
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Sounds lovely. The more I bruise the harder I get.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 04:37 PM
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I'm a masochist so maybe a solid punch is exactly what would get me off
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 04:27 PM
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I mean, if the men involved still existed and worked and shit but just stopped interacting with women things wouldn't really change all that much. Plenty of cultures are far more sex-segregated than the West without it being the end of the world. If 60% of women went no contact with all men I wouldn't suddenly miss a bunch of strangers I've never met.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 03:39 PM
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Outside of being sad over losing a relationship, friends or male relatives, no woman would care. This reads like a MGTOW revenge fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 02:28 PM
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I assume you just practise it like everything else. Get yourself into situations where you're forced to interact with lots of people, preferably situations where you're at the centre of attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 08:37 AM
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Approaching women is the best way for straight men to get anywhere. It's the opposite of useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 08:33 AM
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Smack the phone out of their hands. That way you're also asserting your dominance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/17 08:30 AM
1

Tinder is great. It makes meeting new people and hooking up infinitely easier. It's superficial but that isn't too bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 08:28 PM
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Expressing interest means being vulnerable and being vulnerable is never "fun". Honestly, you can only make a game out of it if you actually believe it's possible to win.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 08:25 PM
1

Just ask and, if she rejects you, don't make a big deal about it. Probably also best to only ask when you think they might actually be interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 08:20 PM
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Told a girl I was in love with someone. She thought I was talking about someone else. I clarified and she rejected me. I was 14. Only time I actually expressed interest directly to someone. I've probably been curved more indirectly a few times since then.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/17 08:16 PM
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Luckily, it seems I'm good looking enough that I can get laid from weird chicks on tinder every so often. I would probably be incredibly depressed otherwise. ...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 10:41 PM
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Feeling invisible and ignored is more often about what you imagine is happening than what's actually there. It's also a little entitled, thinking that you should be noticed just for existing. I often feel ignored and invisible but I also do everything within my power to go unnoticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 10:36 PM
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I'm not sure many/most incels have experienced all that much negative feedback. I haven't experienced it all that much and yet I still ended up on the incels subreddit. I saw a lot of others just like me. People who didn't really get rejected or bullied all that much growing up but who still felt ignored/slighted/passed over. For people like that, it doesn't really matter how the outside world responds to them. Our struggles are mostly inside of our own head. In fact, I have gotten positive feed…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 10:09 PM
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I want at least 3 kids and parenting should be very involved and our main priority. I am not religious and our kids shouldn't be raised religious either. I don't want them to experience the same things I did and feel afraid to think freely or disappoint us. I am a progressive leftist. My partner wouldn't need to feel exactly like I do but dating a conservative is out of the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 03:32 PM
1

I don't have a physical ideal. I do slightly prefer thicc and light brown women. I don't have a personality ideal. I just have to like and be compatible with them. I am extremely close with my family and would like her to be too. I enjoy having a large extended family. I don't give a fuck about talents/skills/class/grace/chasteness/cultural background/etc. I would like her to have similar views on parenting, religion and politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/17 11:22 AM
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Unattractive men date and sleep around. Feminine men do too. Incel/FA has to do with other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/17 07:16 PM
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Because male is the default there isn't that minority-solidarity between men. I get that some men feel besieged these days and that's why they're longing for that solidarity but I think it's ultimately better if we as men can be self-reflective and self-critical. I have to say tho, there is plenty of solidarity in my personal relationships with other men. I feel like "bro-hood" is a well-established culture at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 09:26 PM
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It is forced by nature. Even women who want a baby are still forced to undergo pregnancy. I bet they'd rather literally get it delivered by stork.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 03:58 PM
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That's kind of a petty reason to support banning abortion in all cases. In essence, the right to abort isn't about not being ready for children. That's just a natural consequence of it existing. What abortion is actually about is bodily autonomy. A woman has the right to determine whether her body will undergo pregnancy or not. Her bodily autonomy supersedes the rights of a hypothetical future child. Alimony and other parental obligations aren't about hypothetical future children but about actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 03:28 PM
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I disagree. Incompatibility and dissatisfaction between two married people can lead to an unhealthy and, just as importantly, unhappy situation at home without it being cruel and inhuman treatment, impotence, adultery, etc. I'm a supporter of UBI so I do think the state should do more to help single parents but I think it's reasonable to expect that both people involved in making a child also carry responsibility for it. And I don't see why anyone would want to create a material environment that…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 03:20 PM
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I don't think it would strengthen the family unit so much as prevent the dissolution of bad and unhealthy marriages. And it would almost certainly create greater poverty for single mothers, who are already vulnerable. Even if you're more looking at the ways in which your changes would promote certain lifestyles and behaviours, wouldn't it just limit our freedom?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 01:04 PM
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I think I'll take my chances with actual therapy first. Other incels should do the same. Seriously tho, whenever some guy in need of help has shown up here I've found that it was sane and moderate red pillers who gave the best and most sincere advice. I don't doubt that a lot of you guys would be good and helpful friends in real life. But TRP as a collection of ideas and texts contains too much that is either hateful or untrue and TRP as a community contains too many toxic and unhealthy individu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 12:58 PM
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The red pill also has a lot to say about male sexual strategy, right? So imagine your girlfriend told you that she's constantly worried that you're looking for younger and hotter girls to replace her with, that she's afraid that you're judging her for not being a virgin when you got together, that she's scared you're spinning plates while in a relationship, etc. Do you think she'd be right to have those fears or would you want her to feel secure in your commitment to her? I mean, I wouldn't want…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 12:55 PM
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What would this solve?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 10:38 AM
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It's usually about unhealthy ways of thinking, serious self-esteem issues, a lot of bad behaviours (laziness, social withdrawal) and a lack of good ones (discipline, perseverance, proactivity), mental illness, etc. It can be overcome but it's pretty hard, especially without help.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 10:24 AM
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Plenty of young men get laid. Unsuccessful young guys aren't comparing themselves to men 5/10 years their senior, they compare themselves to their more successful peers. Time won't solve their problems. They'll have to do more than just mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 09:00 AM
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Wait, what. How could a bad marriage possibly be better than a good divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 07:21 AM
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Whether a man “spins plates” or not isn’t determined by their quality. Most people are monogamous and so most men aren’t spinning plates but you’ve got plate-spinners in every group of men, from celebrities (Clooney/DiCaprio) to garbage collectors.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/17 07:17 AM
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Nothing wrong with being hedonistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 04:45 PM
1

I think when we talk about the "typical man" or the "typical woman" we should keep Myers-Briggs in mind. Nobody should ever keep Myers-Briggs in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 04:27 PM
1

I think people can be biased against their own gender. Probably because you don't judge the opposite gender in the same way you do your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 04:22 PM
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The red pill definition of hypergamy is basically an ideology built on men’s fear of losing to another man. It’s filtering the world around us through our insecurity and competitive drive. I don’t see how it could benefit anyone to think like that. It’ll just leave you miserable and on guard all the time. You go to the gym with your girlfriend and a more experienced lifter gives the both of you some advice and illustrates how to do some advanced exercises and instead of simply appreciating his a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 09:13 AM
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Sure, most people probably want something like that. I was just giving my ideal timeline where a healthy and still good-looking elderly man can amicably divorce his wife and go back to chasing pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 08:39 AM
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Why? Not like there's anything wrong with indulging your fetishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 12:42 AM
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Probably not. Doesn't mean I don't think there's little reason for a husband and wife to stay together after the children are grown.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/17 12:42 AM
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Male perspective. Of course Jesus intended it. Haven't you read the bible? His "death" was just an extended metaphor for his short-lived marriage with Mary Magdalene. Big J ended it after he found out her N-count and returned to his bros. He's basically the OG MGTOW. I'd say 2 or 4 babies. Having an uneven number is bad luck. Why? Because nobody wants to spend the last decades of their life sucking on some saggy-ass tits and fucking some wrinkly-ass broad. After the parenting is done you leave t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 09:47 PM
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Describing an ideal for an entire gender is just stupid. Everybody's got different wants and priorities. And measuring your own life against an imagined ideal timeline will only cause unnecessary pain and regret. Still, if I could do my life all over again I'd: aim for losing my virginity around the age of 14 have a handful of relationships throughout high school be single and pursue hookups in college continue having casual relationships/fuckbuddies/ONS in my twenties start taking dating more s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 08:56 PM
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Men have been getting laid without the internet's help since the dawn of time. Most men don't need any pill to get some pussy. If we're talking about feminist men than I guess some do and some don't get laid. It's not really determined by their politics. And if we're just talking about the men who self-identify as blue pill than I think it's the same exact thing. Some get laid a lot, some are in steady relationships and some don't get any at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 08:38 PM
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The problem with monk mode and working on yourself isn’t your chance of marriage decreasing but the sex you’ll be missing out on in the meantime.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 02:31 PM
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The type that doesn’t give a fuck about MBTI types.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 02:29 PM
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You can not be wrong when it comes to breaking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 02:28 PM
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I do not care at all about other people’s standards or who they’re pursuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 02:26 PM
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Jesus Christ this quality bullshit is so goddamn stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 09:13 PM
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No. First of all, breaking up with someone isn't bad and you only need to justify it for yourself. You can break up for any reason. Besides, sex is an important part of a romantic relationship. Being unsatisfied in that area is a serious problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 09:10 PM
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Nah, I'm attracted to good honest and compassionate women. I like a spine and enjoy a prickly sense of humour but nothing about bitchiness or being detached sounds appealing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 05:25 AM
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How people act always has more to do with them than with anyone else. That might take some of the joy of having serious committed women cheat on their husbands with you but it'll help you cope if a girlfriend ever cheats on you. Imagine some busty broad bragging about bringing all the boys to the yard and getting married men to come over and eat her out 'cause her pussy's just that good. Tell me that shit wouldn't be laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 05:16 AM
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Does cheating happen? Of course it does. Do big burly men have “innocent” girlfriends and wives come over to worship their dick because they’re just that alpha? No, they don’t. Women don’t just cheat because they’ve found a bigger and better man who was simply irresistible. Besides, that also sorta implies those supreme alpha men won’t get cheated on because they’re just that manly. This reeks of the same kind of childish thinking that leads some dudes to say that lesbians just haven’t tried the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 04:44 AM
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No second chances Sex has to happen within the first 3 dates Never be someone's exception I'll stick to these 3 rules when I finally start dating
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 09:47 PM
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I explicitly said that voting for Trump doesn't mean you treat others badly (i.e. beat wives and kill baby trees). So no, I did not illustrate your point. You perfectly illustrated however that the real problem is taking criticism of one's politics personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 09:42 PM
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Nah, if you voted Trump your politics are either dumb and insecure or actually misogynist, racist and xenophobic. Doesn't mean you treat the people around you badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 08:58 PM
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Having wife's grope your crotch, whispering in your ears that it's such a pity that their husband does not have such muscles or having somebody's "innocent" girlfriend drive 40 miles at night just to suck your dick, swallow your load and drive back home, to lay at his side in his bed, are pretty eye-opening experiences Oh TRP...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 08:56 PM
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All it should tell us is that someone's politics aren't indicative of their actual behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 07:53 PM
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A professor I had back when I was studying English Lit. Legit one of the most intelligent people I've ever met. Just such a breadth of knowledge and all of it in-depth. She was as at home discussing German mythology as she was describing the informal gold-economy of World of Warcraft. I loved her classes. In fact, during that time I was in a class of almost all women and all of them were amazing people. Smart, intellectually curious, passionate, I loved hanging out with them. There was one girl …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/17 02:57 PM
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Ideally, nobody should feel insecure. Just gotta move past that shit. That's not always how it works out tho. Also, I don't think it's really necessary or realistic for a woman to fear that her men would've more easily committed to a more attractive woman. I don't think that's often the case. I don't think men and women are comparable when it comes to this. This is a fear unique to straight men. As men, we want to feel a kind of sexual ownership towards our partners and that feeling of ownership…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 10:08 PM
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JC's gonna go all Moses on that ass and part them cheeks. I mean, he's the son of the original G after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 08:59 PM
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No, inexperience protects me from doing any of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 08:40 PM
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Understanding it isn't going to make men less resentful.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 08:39 PM
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If you want to be happy you have to live in the now and take things as they are. Worrying about the past or comparing yourself to others is just going to lead to resentment and fear. I don't wanna be happy tho, I prefer being insecure and afraid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 08:37 PM
3

To be honest, I don't really see this whole beta-orbiter thing in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 08:35 PM
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Fewer underwear-clad pillow-fights and fun bathroom trips I'm guessing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 08:31 PM
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A perpetually 33 hipster with a body to die for and the most well-connected daddy in the world? Of course Jesus would kill it on Tinder. J-dog and his 12 apostles would be running trains for days son.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 08:29 PM
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You keep making my point for me. Women have higher standards when it comes to hookups and that's why we as men should feel insecure about our partner's attraction towards us. Knowing that there are men out there who were hot enough to get our girlfriends to immediately hook up with them kinda sours our relationships with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 08:26 PM
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This only strengthens my point that as a man you've got more reason to doubt your partner's sexual attraction towards you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 08:23 PM
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You're right, attractive people always get preferential treatment. And men probably don't treat all women they're attracted to exactly the same. What matters is to what degree that treatment differs. I'd say that overall looks have a far larger impact on the way women are treated than they do for men. But when it comes to sexual attraction it impacts women more IMO. The difference between how a hot guy is treated versus a normal dude they might still be attracted to is huge. A man is not going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 03:21 PM
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I think most women would agree with me that sexual attraction is more central to relationships than money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 03:11 PM
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There are plenty of 'Tinder experiments' that show just how far some men can go while still getting positive responses. Dudes that say some pretty outrageously sexual shit and have their matches act all excited. Or openly racist dudes still matching up and talking hookups with women of color. And that kinda ties in with what I mean with women have different ways in which they're attracted to men. A lot of women seem as capable of getting into romantic/sexual relationships with men where the attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 10:43 AM
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I agree with RP that their ideas about women's tastes accurately reflect what men think/fear women do. I am not so sure it actually reflects women's tastes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 09:39 AM
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I'm talking hypotheticals here so I can really make my non-existent girlfriend act like anything. And you're right, a whole lot of men wouldn't respond to a model posting a message about wanting to get fucked. Lots of men will assume it's fake or assume she's getting so many responses that it's meaningless to even try. I think it's safe to assume even fewer women would respond to a male model posting a message like that. But the Tinder example is a lot better. Are you really sure that if your bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 09:37 AM
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More choice is always better, right? Besides, even if you won't message all of your matches it must feel good to know that many people are attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 09:23 AM
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Well, I guess that's good to hear for any dude that's dating you but the internet is absolutely rife with examples of women who would respond differently depending on the looks of the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 09:20 AM
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That's not the point. If you post a picture and the text "I want sex" will you get as many responses as a literal model? Probably not. But you'll still get plenty. Your boyfriend would probably respond to you just like he would the model. If I post a picture and the text "I want sex" I won't get any responses. A hot guy would. And if I had a girlfriend chances are that she wouldn't have responded to my post but would to the hot guy. Simply posting a pic is the most exaggerated and unrealistic ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 06:45 AM
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Any woman can go online and post a picture with the text 'I just want sex' and absolutely drown in responses. All kinds of men will start messaging her, some sending considerate messages while others just send dick pics. Because of this, women have kinda decided that this kind of sexual attraction isn't worth anything. Because every woman gets it. It's the exact opposite for men. Few men can get that kind of reaction out of women. Hell, some dudes grow up believing women never respond to anyone …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 06:15 AM
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Jump ship obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 06:04 AM
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Women seem to be surprisingly okay with sacrificing their sexual attraction or settling for less when it comes to relationships. It's probably unlikely that a woman starts dating a man she's not attracted to at all but plenty of women date men they're much less attracted to compared to other/past partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 06:04 AM
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Are you really going to compare that to sex? Sexual attraction is the very basis for relationships, getting money is just a nice extra.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 05:57 AM
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I agree. Those are all reasonable explanations. But the fact is that every man now knows that it could also be that the other guy is just more attractive. So we’re always going to doubt. Now that I know that there are men out there who are hot enough they can use ‘let’s fuck’ as an opening line and get a good response, I am always going to question whether a woman taking it slow with me would’ve said yes immediately to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 05:37 AM
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I agree that a lot of this is all just in our head. But any man fighting these fears doesn’t have to look hard to find proof of them being justified. It can look like practically every woman participates in that Tinder/hookup world, especially online. That every woman who says she’s ‘not that kind of girl’ has actually slept with some hot dude hours after meeting/matching him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 05:08 AM
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No, you wanted to have sex with him more than you want it with us which means he won the competition in one of the most primal arenas of life. The only way he could’ve humiliated and emasculated us in a more direct manner is if he had literally beaten us up. It gets to the very heart of being a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/17 04:42 AM
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I feel like people have always felt envious of others and entitled to have what they have. The difference isn't that people feel more entitled nowadays but that we've now become aware of just how huge the difference can be between people. I think nearly everybody can understand why their taller and more muscular neighbour does better than them dating-wise. It's seeing just how much better that creates that shock.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 08:25 PM
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The problem isn't a culture of instant gratification, it's the ability to see what others get out of dating and relationships. Now more than ever, we're capable of comparing ourselves to others. 4 matches a month on Tinder gets a whole lot worse when you see men that get hundreds. A relationship built over the course of several dates becomes a lot less satisfactory when you know that there are men out there getting pussy thrown at them. Maybe even the same pussy you had to wine and dine to get. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 08:07 PM
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Depends on what you mean by masculine. If assertiveness and confidence are considered masculine than I agree. If you're talking about the degree to which an individual man might fit traditional gender norms than I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 08:01 PM
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How much of a sad pathetic loser do you have to be to agree to something like that. Maybe those dudes have some kind of father complex and just wants to feel responsible for a young woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 10:17 AM
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Yeah I’ve seen these kind of relationships. Those women suck. As a dude it’s probably best to never let anyone boss you around and tell you what to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/17 10:13 AM
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For me, the question of pursuit is entirely unrelated to specific women and says nothing about my interest. But I think that for men who do regularly pursue women, a non-response does indicate uninterest.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 10:23 PM
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Assuming this is real, it isn't all that surprising. He's fucking homeless, it's not like he's got anything better to do than chase women all the time. No wonder he sleeps around a lot. And I'll give you height but looks? Nothing about his face or body screams great looks to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 10:02 AM
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An absolute fuckton. Everyone is compatible with millions of others. Just think about it, most people have (multiple) relationships and crushes in high school. So even though there are 7 billion people on this planet, you could find multiple compatible partners in any random assortment of a few hundred age-appropriate people. In other words, the idea of a soulmate is goddamn stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 09:58 AM
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Out of actual biological differences grew cultures that distorted reality and privileged men far beyond the initial differences between the genders. Biological differences don't explain why so many cultures, the West until very recently included, believe women aren't fit to lead. Or fit to be educated. Or fit to work (fulltime) jobs. They don't explain the enforcement of strict gendered dress codes. They don't explain the pathologizing of female sexuality. Plenty of things have changed for women…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/17 09:53 AM
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Patriarchy refers to societies that privilege men over women. This happens in all sorts of ways, through legal means, religion, cultural norms, etc. It's not a conspiracy that most cultures are patriarchal. It probably goes back to our agrarian beginnings and the biological differences between men and women (i.e. women get pregnant, men are physically stronger). And the parameters that women are taught differ based on culture and class. Some parameters probably go way back and might very well be…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 10:41 PM
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I mean, I'm not red pill for a reason. Understanding that your feelings are not righteous, valid and rooted in actual experiences but instead simply born from your own (irrational) fears and insecurities also makes it nearly impossible to create a community based on those feelings and treating them seriously. I can't imagine what RP would look like framed like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 09:28 PM
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As far as I know, all major cultures are patriarchal. Feminism has been a powerful force trying to change that but that change is a slow and gradual process that's still far from done. And it's not as if sexual liberation meant everyone after became a blank slate. Men and women are now free to have sex outside of marriage with whoever they choose but their tastes are still influenced by their culture. Women judge men by parameters they were taught growing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 09:17 PM
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Masculinity is a concept defined by the culture one lives in and it is that culture that influences how its members, including women, see masculinity. Because most cultures are patriarchal it's actually men who determine what is and isn't masculine. Of course, women do play an important part in then enforcing that masculinity. But as culture changes so too will the way women view masculinity change.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 08:02 PM
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I don't have a negative attitude towards women but I think a lot of men here, myself included, have had a negative relationship with women. Our experiences with women have been characterized by rejection, judgement, mockery, etc. If your experience with women is that they're the evaluators of your worth as a man and they've consistently rejected you then it isn't all that surprising that you start to develop negative feelings towards them. Now, I don't think that excuses those feelings, especial…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 03:31 PM
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They're used so inconsistently that they basically don't mean anything. I used to think stoicism was alpha but in a recent thread, people called throwing a tantrum alpha. So who the fuck knows at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/17 10:15 AM
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What a bunch of depressing self-victimizing bullshit. It’s still unsure exactly how technological improvements in automation and AI are going to impact the labour market. Saying it’ll create a society that favours female skillsets is pure speculation. Maybe it will open up entirely new types of work or maybe we’ll slowly move away from lives based around a 9-5 job altogether. Suicide might increase in the future but it has little to do with the amount of “low value” men in society who feel like …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 08:50 AM
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I'll be sure to make a thread about it when it happens so you can tell me you told me so.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 10:21 PM
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I dunno, some people get pleasure out of providing pleasure. So it would in a way benefit them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 05:23 PM
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I've never met a man who got "fuckzoned" like this. Honestly, I'd have a hard time respecting any dude who got hung up on some girl like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 05:21 PM
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Why would you have to care about somebody as a person to want to give them a mutually pleasurable sexual experience? Maybe some random stud who sees you as an easy lay would still love to go down on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 05:16 PM
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Depends on what it is they think I've done wrong. I've got no problem believing it's me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 05:13 PM
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Being alpha means acting like a toddler now? I thought being alpha was about control and mastery. Shouting like that and repeating yourself endlessly just makes him seem impotent, childish and petulant.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 08:51 AM
1

Comparing love to a drug or to madness is such a terrible cliche. I've always found it incredibly exaggerated. I doubt falling in love is ever that intense, especially nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 08:47 AM
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No, haven't read that one yet. I love the way Murakami weaves supernatural and surrealist elements through his stories. You might like Colorless Tsukuru because while it still has surrealist dream-sequences there's nothing supernatural going on in the actual plot. And yeah, you're right about the other readers. It's comforting to know a lot of other people also recognize themselves in his writing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 08:43 AM
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Murakami's main characters in 1Q84 and Colorless Tsukuru so perfectly described the depression, loneliness, anhedonia, powerlessness and passivity I experience that I thought for sure I found someone similar to me. Then I found out Murakami was actually a badass Chad who started a fucking jazz bar while in college. Feels bad man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 10:45 PM
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On Literotica the most popular section is the one housing incest stories. Unfortunately, incest seems pretty popular on porn sites these days too. And I think that when given to opportunity to explore we're all pretty fucking depraved deep down.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 10:40 PM
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No guy I know compares the women he's slept with to one another. The idea of feeling a compulsive need to compare current partners with past ones is baffling to me. And the idea of getting so hung up on someone that you'll constantly try to recapture that feeling has always sounded unbelievable to me. So I just assume women don't do that shit either. I think it's an entirely male fear that's rooted in our insecurities about being bested in a competition. It has little to do with actual female th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 10:38 PM
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Bad thing about places like this is that they can make you calloused towards some truly abhorrent speech. Getting sick to your stomach by it all means you're still seeing things in their right perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 08:09 PM
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Women are just playing catch up to men right now. Soon, women will learn how to fuck from porn too and we'll enter a glorious new era where every boy and girl can have the gagging, DP-ing, bukkake-ing, rosebudding, fisting, etc etc etc they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 05:32 PM
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From what I've heard, a shocking number of women have experienced abusive, intimidating, entitled, harassing and dangerous male behaviour. Almost every woman I know has stories about getting groped at a party, catcalled while walking down the street, get their rejection ignored, etc. So yeah, I think it's safe to say it's systemic. We definitely live in a culture that downplays rapey male sexual behaviour and the fear and uncomfortableness it can cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 04:06 PM
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The apprehension towards high n-counts comes from a fear or insecurity about getting compared with her past partners and not measuring up. It's the fear of not being her sexual best.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 09:24 AM
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What the fuck even is a red piller at this point? Some of you make every man who's ever had sex out to be a red piller.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 09:21 AM
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Nah, I think it's easier for just about everyone to have sex these days. Sure, hotter guys can get exponentially more ass than average or unattractive men but most men can have relationships or casual sex these days. The standards really aren't that high as guys like me often say they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 09:27 PM
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I don't see what so bad about being a plate or ONS. As long as you're not interested in an LTR there shouldn't be any problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 04:06 PM
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Being cool means being and expressing yourself smoothly and effortlessly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 06:45 AM
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Women funded the pill to prevent pregnancy. As in, prevent the physical ordeal of getting pregnant and the lifelong commitment it can produce. We don't get pregnant and we can just walk the fuck away if we don't want the damned kid so there's a lot less incentive to fund male contraception.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 05:54 AM
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Good sense of humour can add a little bit to a woman's attraction if there's already attraction there to begin with, but it ultimately matters very little.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 02:12 PM
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Women don't need to be fit to be hot. The female equivalent of a hot dude with a sixpack can be a curvy girl who just has good genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 09:24 AM
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I think being really unattractive can be extremely hard on women but that it also takes a lot more for a woman to be unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 08:09 AM
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Arguing with these twats is fucking pointless too. Then just don't argue with them...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 09:51 PM
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Letting your decisions in life be ruled by fear like this is pointless. I see plenty of happy relationships and happy marriages so I'm confident people are capable of telling who is really interested and who isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 09:48 PM
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Yeah, I'm Dutch. And I could definitely see Baudet reading the manosphere. Hell, maybe he's even got an account here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/17 09:15 PM
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We were sitting around just shooting the shit and the topic of politics came up. I tend to avoid politics with people I don't know well but she kept steering it in that direction and kinda shamefully admitted to voting for this Dutch party led by what can only be described as a sexist and racist fratboy. I told her I mostly knew him for defending that PUA-guru Julian Blanc a few years back and that he seemed like a sexist. And she just got all red pill on me. Told me that as a man I couldn't rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 11:03 PM
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I mean, we have no idea what CK's body language or tone of voice was and I have no problem believing these women when they say that it sounded like nothing but a celebratory drink. IMO, inviting someone to your home or to a hotel room does not have to be with sexual intent. A straight man can have female coworkers or friends over without anything happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 10:50 PM
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A woman I'm working on a project with basically tried to red pill me today. Red pilled women are so weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 10:29 PM
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It's probably not sexual assault but it's definitely disgusting behaviour. Also, it is not obvious at all that when a peer invites you and a friend up to their room that they'll start masturbating in front of you. I mean, what the fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 10:25 PM
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It has affected me in so far that reading all those accounts by women has made me more aware how certain behaviours can make women feel uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 03:21 PM
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In the real world, single men don't lead lives filled with adventure and flings with super-attractive women The same is true for women tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 06:13 PM
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I'm an incel. Or, at least, I used to post there. So no, I don't believe all incels are racist, sexist, etc. But it's undeniable that the subreddit was filled with that kind of shit. People had Nazi and pro-Elliot Rodgers messages in their flairs for fuck's sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 01:27 PM
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Go try it out and tell us what you find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 08:24 AM
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The place was filled with people celebrating mass murderers and massacres, justifications for pedophilia and rape, blatant racism and other unseemly shit. As someone who posted there, I think there's a case to be made for a subreddit dedicated to men who feel like they're at the bottom of the barrel dating-wise. But the incels subreddit wasn't that place.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/17 08:22 AM
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Just LOL at you trying to make out other people as bigots when you yourself are using transwomen as a way of mocking "unmasculine" men. Fucking disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 11:39 PM
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They seem like a lot of fun when you go with a large group of male and female friends but the only times I've gone was with groups of just dudes and we all hung out by the wall watching people. That's boring as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/17 07:54 AM
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I have female acquaintances. Some of them might call me a friend but I'd be lying if I said we were close.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 10:59 PM
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I used to value my intelligence over everything else but now I'm neutral on it. Still, I'd want to be with a person more intelligent than me. I enjoy listening more than I do talking and it's easier to listen to people who know better than I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 10:57 PM
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At the end of the day, most men still want to get their dick wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 03:38 PM
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I don't think the problem is that men are told that looks don't matter at all but that we are told that looks are less important to women than to men. That's why it can come as a bit of a shock to know that there are men whose looks are as lust-inspiring for women as many women are for men. Especially if that lust overrides any moral/personal defects that man might have. I mean, it's obvious to most men that a progressive liberal trump-hating guy like me would still fuck the absolute shit out of…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 08:59 PM
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Can't lose the war if you don't show up to fight
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 12:06 AM
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I don't feel genuinely horny all that often. Like, where I feel this strong desire to fuck that I cannot quench any other way. Instead, I just lowkey feel like watching porn all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 12:02 AM
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Sounds like you and your friends just know a lot of assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 11:59 PM
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You can lack any alpha traits and not pedestalize women at all and be a true alpha yet still put (a) pussy on a pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 08:47 PM
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I've witnessed straight couples where the woman was the more dominant one in the relationship. Some worked out and others didn't. I'd say my mom would normally be the "alpha" or the one wearing the pants in her relationship. It's just that my dad out-alpha-ed her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/17 08:44 PM
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I ignored your "point" about Islam because I have zero interest in discussing Islam with you. It's completely beside the point. And I agree that we're going in circles. Getting shunned by a community and facing legal consequences through government action are completely different things. We're not talking about a technicality. I gave multiple examples of what social shunning looks like and why it's absurd to call it wrong or the compare it with legal punishment. It's like me and my friends shunn…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 12:35 PM
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I've said repeatedly that I don't want to force anybody to do shit. I know I, or anybody else, cannot change everybody's mind. But through criticism and discussion maybe enough minds get changed that someday people that say the kind of shit Trump says won't be elected president or even get their own TV-shows. That's my entire fucking point. And I am not trying to compel anyone. You are seeing persecution where there isn't any. Again, it's absurd to look at the world today and think that "SJWs" a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 11:37 AM
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Actions and speech are linked. Speech can inspire action or help rally support for it. That's my point. Hateful speech can have real-world consequences for the people on the receiving end of it. Just look at how hate crimes have gone up since the election of Donald Trump. Hateful speech towards refugees led to firebombings of asylums in the Netherlands, Germany and Sweden. And it is impossible to not punish someone for speech you consider abhorrent. Say I have a girlfriend and she becomes close …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 11:06 AM
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I mean, we've had right-leaning centrist governments the entirety of the 21st century. We used to be liberal when it comes to prostitution and drugs but are too conservative to actually progress on those topics. Countries like Portugal or American states like Colorado are now more progressive on drugs than us and countries like Australia are more progressive on prostitution. We still have a national holiday featuring racist blackface imagery and a large portion of the population reacts with ange…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 10:49 AM
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I'm half East-African. I just gave you an example of hateful ideology hurting a minority. Native Americans are poor, yes, but their poverty has to do with their racial position in the US. And as a poor racial minority, they were ignored while a white community did get listened too. It is very hard for me or my family to go to the US right now. Purely because of our Arabic name, our religion and my dad's roots and remaining family in Eritrea and Sudan. Hateful ideology makes it normal to not supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 10:42 AM
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Wealth and class are not the only things that matter. You have to be blind to think someone's race, sex, gender identity, sexuality, migration-status, religion, etc don't have a huge impact on their life. Where did I say that I want every racist punished by authority? I want more and more people to see that some ways of thinking are immoral and harmful so that thinking that way comes with huge social consequences. At the beginning of the 20th century, you could easily talk about how all Jews wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 10:20 AM
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The Netherlands tries to trick everyone into believing we're this leftwing and progressive country with all the drugs and hookers you want but we're actually pretty intolerant and conservative. Besides, plenty of other countries now have much better and freer legislation on drugs and prostitution. And yes, class and geographical privileges are very important but these discussions are almost always between people living in the West. The privilege of living in Europe isn't very relevant right now …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 09:42 AM
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I'm talking about the Netherlands. And I knew you'd get annoyed by the word privilege. Most people find it difficult to hear. But it's absolutely true. Some ways of thinking are immoral and harmful to others. Is it bad if I would prefer it if nobody believed in Nazi ideology? Or white supremacy? The only reason you're more threatened by the minorities fighting against those harmful ideologies than by the ideologies themselves is because they don't pose a danger to you. I cannot forcibly change a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/17 08:51 AM
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That's such a privileged point of view. I live in a country where a small up-and-coming politician has books on his shelf about the racial superiority of white people. And the head of our second largest party regularly talks derogatorily about Muslims and Arabs. In fact, his hatred of Muslims is so strong that he didn't even support a benign bill condemning the fucking genocide in Myanmar. We still have a holiday with blackface and whenever people protest it, they get called monkeys or nigger lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 03:39 PM
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When I boycott something I do so because I disagree with it and want to see it fail. And I'd prefer to live in a society where a majority of people believed those same things should fail too. So in that sense, I do think someone should get punished. I do think someone like Milo Yiannopoulos should not have his book published, not get invited to college campuses, not be on TV, etc. But I don't think I can or should be able to enforce that. The only thing I can do is to personally boycott him and …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 03:04 PM
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If the baker at my favourite bakery one day stands in front of his shop and loudly declares that he thinks all black people are thugs I am free to punish him by not shopping there anymore, right? So if lots of other people agree with me and enough people stop buying his bread so that his business fails we haven't done anything wrong, right? Comparing that to authoritarianism is fucking absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 02:39 PM
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A severe social cost is not the same as persecution. In 1984, the state enforced a certain way of thinking and banned anyone from thinking differently. I'm talking about condemning people for thinking things like "black people are animals", "gays are degenerates", "Jews are world-controlling devils", etc. That is not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 02:30 PM
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Why would you be in a position to stop it? It's a collective effort by the people opposed to that kind of objectification. I explained how it works in some other comment using video game conventions as an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 11:50 AM
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All I can say is that I do believe the expression of some thoughts should bear a severe social cost. And I actually think most hateful speech is not recognized as such and therefore doesn't come with the severe social costs that it should. Calling refugees vermin doesn't cost you your job, it makes you a columnist at the Sun. And bragging about sexual assault makes you president of the most powerful nation on earth for fuck's sake. So I think we're very far off from some "SJW" apocalypse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 11:47 AM
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All I can say is that I am generally opposed to state efforts aimed at preventing consenting adults from acting on their desires. At the same time, we have to be cognizant of the larger forces that shape our behaviour and ways of thinking. So I am not going pretend that I can unequivocally answer your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 11:38 AM
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I mean, people are still free to think of me as an object. Same with thinking of me as a vermin. Plenty of public officials still think of people like me and my family as vermin. But I am also free to fight that thought. I am free to call for firings and free to protest those people. Nobody's trying to take away your freedom of thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 11:24 AM
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Here's an example to illustrate my point. It used to be pretty common for video game conventions to feature so-called booth babes. Professional models hired to stand around the booths to attract people to them. Because of criticism from people who thought that was objectifying and made female con-goers uncomfortable booth babes have become far less normal. Some conventions ban them outright and at others, the big companies have just stopped using them. Of course, people who liked to dress up and…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 11:21 AM
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Who is calling for objectification to be a punishable act? If that position even exists it must be an extremely fringe one. IMO, it's perfectly okay to try and change society so that it is no longer "normal" to have scantily-clad models at car shows or ring girls at boxing matches. And if you want those things to stay it is okay to try and keep them through whatever democratic means you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 10:57 AM
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I think there are ways to think that are morally objectionable and that's reason enough to try and change our set of shared memes and thought processes. Thinking of black people as things instead of people used to be culturally accepted too. Same goes for thinking of Jews as vermin. Were the activists of the past doing something wrong by trying to change those ways of thinking?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 10:54 AM
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How is it a thought police? Is anyone trying to keep you from thinking in a certain way? It's activism against a culturally-accepted practice. It's about changing the way people think about women by arguing your own case and criticising the other. In the case of conservatives hating gays, not only is their case incredibly weak (homosexuality is bad because my god says so) but they also try to actively keep gay people from having the same rights as heterosexual people. Keep them from marrying and…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 10:52 AM
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The point isn't that I have a problem with that. The point is that you're trying to make criticism of the objectification of women into some kind of 1984 thought police when it's actually about the way sexualised female bodies are used culturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 09:42 AM
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Because when people rail against objectification they're not talking about female bodies being used to sell cars and videogames and shit but about the secret thoughts of random redditors.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/17 09:29 AM
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This dude does not have to stay starved for attention. "Solving" his current situation with an arranged marriage would be fucking overkill, to say the least. And I think we had a similar conversation already with regards to BB but just to reiterate, any sort of relationship with a woman is not necessarily a step up from a period of loneliness. I can appreciate a person going to bat for some crazy shit and it's not like I've got anything better to do than argue with people over the internet tonig…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 11:29 PM
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Plenty of women do get turned on by being objectified. And that's perfectly okay. People don't need to apologize or feel ashamed for sexual fantasies and turn-ons. And it should be obvious to everyone that having a sexual fantasy or turn on does not mean always wanting other people to do that shit to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 11:11 PM
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Why not? It's satisfactory for billions of people around the world. Come on. Is this even a serious question? Would you ever consider an arranged marriage? No, right. So why would anyone else? I know arranged marriages can work out but the best arranged marriages I know are between people raised with a very different idea of relationships than ours. Like I said, even young people in cultures where arranged marriage is considered normal are moving away from it. Now I'm pretty sure that you're too…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 11:06 PM
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First things first, an arranged marriage will not be satisfactory. But more importantly, your advice is not more unique. It plays into the delusions of black pillers. People always complain that black pillers are not receptive to advice but that's just because we come to places like this to feel bad, not because we're actually looking for help. We're looking for things that fuel our defeatism and self-pity. You're an intelligent person, you must understand that telling someone their best option …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 10:11 PM
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This dude is western people. And besides being abnormal an arranged marriage will simply not yield the desired results. It's clear you intend to keep riding this arranged marriage train but it's such bad advice it's barely worthy of the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 09:22 PM
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I'm not sure why you keep pretending arranged marriages are a normal thing for people who've grown up in the West. Or really any urban area in the last two decades. It really isn't. This dude doesn't want or need an arranged marriage. And I can't speak to his personality, seeing as we just have a few reddit posts to go on, but social phobia is not insurmountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 09:02 PM
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Even if he does have such outrageous expectations, and I don't see why he would, adjusting them would still be a far healthier and mature decision than having an arranged marriage. I'm not seeing why his chances of finding love have to be slim. Because they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 08:06 PM
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As difficult as it sounds you have to try and embrace yourself. Embrace who you are and what you'd like to get out of life and acknowledge that it's possible to get those things, regardless of what others might have or the things you regret from your past. That kind of mindset helps create a healthy foundation from which you can invest in yourself. Helps you be unafraid of going for the things you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 08:06 PM
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As someone who could hypothetically get an arranged marriage if I wanted to, let me tell you that it's no cheat code at all. Not that it's impossible for an arranged marriage to work out but I don't see how it could ever get a young person what s/he really wants. Even my younger family members back in Africa want to find their own partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 04:46 PM
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Nah, being non-white, Asian or otherwise, does not have to mean you'll do poorly in the West. Doesn't matter what his goal is (LTR, fuckbuddies, ONS) his ethnicity will not keep him from getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 04:16 PM
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Not having sex is even less of a big deal than reluctantly having sex tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 04:07 PM
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I'm probably in no position to give you any advice on this but I do know you won't find the answer here. All I can tell you is that, from personal experience, I know that the "omega" mindset is about constantly comparing yourself to others and agonizing about the things you've missed out on or did wrong. That kinda shit leads to bitterness and paralysis. Whatever material changes you make to your life you definitely also need to get out of that mentality. Fear, shame and regret are probably the …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 04:04 PM
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Why the fuck would someone raised in the West want an arranged marriage? Unless your culture, clan, tribe or whatever is your main priority, an arranged marriage is never a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 03:59 PM
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They'd react by ignoring them and watching some more porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/17 08:53 AM
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What do you not understand? Clearly, I don't believe our material existence is subjective. Just the worth human beings ascribe to it. I believe the OP was not asking us for our height or weight. He was asking us what all those metrics made us "worth" in terms of attractiveness. And that, IMO, is purely subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 10:07 PM
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Men being afraid of being labelled creepy is not due to feminist rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 09:35 PM
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I think the development of a whole host of new electronic distractions and the increasingly "indoor" lifestyle that it resulted in has a lot more to do with fewer men approaching than feminist rhetoric. Besides, dating has changed because of dating-apps and the proliferation of lifestyle blogs and websites means there are going to be a ton of dumb articles about dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 09:22 PM
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Of course many men are afraid to make a move. Making a move means risking rejection and that's always scary. That fear has always been there and has always kept some men from acting like they'd want to. Teaching affirmative consent is not related to that fear. And it doesn't exacerbate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 09:08 PM
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It is about making sure sex is a joyful and positive experience for everyone involved. Teaching young men and women that sex doesn't have to scary or be a chore. I think it's vitally important that sex-ed is also about enthusiastic consent and comfortability. Affirmative consent means including your partner in your moment-to-moment decision-making and ensuring that they're always on board with what's happening. This fear that men will be too afraid to make a move or that women will get turned-of…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 08:56 PM
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Do not talk to you in what way? I'm just stating the facts. We are talking past each other. From what I can tell you were talking about values as in the actual values of height, weight, etc. while I was talking about value in the sense of the worth of those metrics.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 05:06 PM
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Lady, we are talking right the fuck past each other at the moment. I already agreed that physical appearance can be described in objective metrics, or values. The centimeters that make up my height, the kilos that make up my weight, the exact number of hairs on my head, etc. But I was talking about the value (i.e. worth) of those metrics with regard to attractiveness. The attractiveness value of the different values that make up my appearance. And that value, that worth, is entirely subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 04:42 PM
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Think all of them are at least average. The Asian dude is definitely above-average and the married one might very well be too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 04:34 PM
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Let's say attractiveness is a value. I mean, that's what's being asked here after all. That value is completely dependent on whoever is judging me on it. Nothing about me changes and yet to one person I might be a perfect 10 and to someone else I might be a 1. That means it's subjective. That's what I meant in my original comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 03:45 PM
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What the fuck are we even arguing over right now? I can put numbers to several parts of me, from my height to the number of teeth in my mouth, but I can't then attach some overall "attractiveness" value based on all those numbers combined.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 03:36 PM
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This thread is specifically about the worth of these metrics in relation to dating. And in that situation, they do not have objective value.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 03:19 PM
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There are things we can objectively measure but the worth of those metrics is still completely subjective. I am objectively 178cm tall but that number doesn't hold any objective value or worth beyond simply denoting my height.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 03:07 PM
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There is no objective value. Anyway, as much as I'd love to believe I am a hopelessly ugly 1/10 and as much as I secretly hope I'm a solid 8/10, the truth is that I'm probably just average. Average height, average weight. Okay face and okay build. Biggest minuses are that I often deliberately look like I don't care about my appearance because I'm depressed, insecure and afraid of putting in any effort only to get rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 02:57 PM
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What is average if all those guys look ugly? You have to be crazy to think that Asian dude is not solidly above-average.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 01:18 PM
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The thing about Alex Jones is that much of what he says is entirely true Really now...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 01:17 PM
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I don't think there are really men out there for whom the only option is BB. And if it were I think being alone is preferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 01:12 PM
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80% of men are overweight and fail to create lust? The fuck did you get that from? Yeah, relationships are based on attraction so people that feel like they're failing at it need to figure out how they can better attract others. Luckily, most people don't really have a problem doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 01:11 PM
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It's not one or the other. No matter how much you weigh or how fit you are, it's never a bad idea to try and look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:37 PM
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You don't need to be BB to live life. In fact, BB is probably something you'd want to avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 12:35 PM
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I think it has to do with how men and women are raised differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 09:21 AM
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As far as I know, all those dudes are dating and the Asian guy cleans the fuck up when it comes to pussy. So those T-levels don't really influence them all that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 09:19 AM
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We only get one shot at this whole "being alive" shit. Spending it worrying about how you measure up when compared to other people is just going to ensure that your one shot sucks. I know that from experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 09:15 AM
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Only other option for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 08:09 AM
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Not giving in to fear and staying true to yourself makes you strong IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/17 08:07 AM
3

Men should be themselves and not let their lives be dictated by what they (wrongfully) believe will get them the most pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 11:06 PM
2

Isn't money all you need to be a BB? Besides, I don't think BB is something to aspire to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 11:03 PM
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This is either written by an angry man pretending to be a woman or a woman trying to be edgy. I don't know what's sadder. Leave the black pill to us guys trying to stay defeatist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 11:03 PM
3

I understand that if sex is a regular part of your life it doesn't seem all that special. But sex is most definitely an achievement because not being able to get it is a tremendous failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 10:58 PM
1

Anyway why not go try this out? Go out, say "hi I'm (name) what's your name? Oh I saw you around and thought to myself hey that girl looks (fun, interesting, smart, cute, whatever) so how about we go get some coffee?" I don't know anyone who does this or who would say yes to a proposition like this. Asking random people out seems like an American thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 08:20 PM
1

No, once I'm physically attracted to someone other things besides looks also determine my level of attraction to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 05:07 PM
1

Fathers should raise their kids to unashamedly be themselves and to unapologetically pursue their desires. On top of that, they should help them understand that validation and worth come from the inside and that they should always treat other people as people and not as means to an end.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 05:06 PM
1

Consent isn't automatically given just because the other person thinks you're attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 05:02 PM
5

Buy a cat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 05:00 PM
1

A woman is a person who self-identifies as a woman. Pretty straightforward. Biological sexes exist. Gender is one's performance of an identity that falls somewhere on the masculine-feminine spectrum. Gender does not have to correspond to biological sex. I use the term female-bodied people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 05:00 PM
1

Nobody's actually open to having their view changed. As long as the subject matter isn't clearly incel-inspired I don't see the problem with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 04:57 PM
2

Being alpha is more than just looks. Still, someone's alpha-ness or masculinity is determined by genes and upbringing. A combination of nature and nurture that's out of our control. So it might as well be destined from birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 09:48 AM
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Men's existence is predicated on competition. There being losers isnt a bug, it's a feature.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/17 07:18 AM
6

Police corruption and abuse of power do not stop with sex. There are plenty cases of police officers beating, murdering and intimidating people. I think police officers know their position allows them to get away with almost everything, especially if the victim isn't white. These two probably figured that if the badge lets you kill a 12-year old without impunity it'll probably let you get away with rape too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 04:52 PM
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I mean, they raped a girl. Seems pretty clear-cut why they're disgusting. They used their power as police officers to get this girl all by herself and then abused that power to rape her. Doesn't get much more despicable than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 04:42 PM
5

This does not indicate anything except that these two are some disgusting motherfuckers who thought their police-uniform was going to let them get away with rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 04:38 PM
3

I'm not saying your synopsis is faulty, just that the movie sounds dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 04:29 PM
5

This sounds like someone tried to adapt a red pill field report. It sounds about as ridiculous one too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 03:22 PM
2

A, probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 03:18 PM
1

Only thing that would change is that people wouldn’t be as quick to be insulting and dismissive towards low-value men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 08:54 AM
1

I dunno. Part of me would like a monogamous family but there’s also a part of me that just wants to be single and fuck women. I could probably be happy either way and I wouldn’t be resentful in a serious monogamous relationship (if we had kids at least).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/17 08:50 AM
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It's positive. Women are human beings and deserve the freedom to enjoy their life to the fullest. Men like me not getting our dicks wet isn't nearly enough to take anything away from what has been gained.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 08:35 PM
2

I did not pop up from the fucking ground like a vegetable. I was born from a woman. I have female relatives. There are women I care about and for that reason, I care about their problems too. I don't want my mother or my nieces to face harassment or have people not believe them if they get raped. For god's sake, we're not in some goddamn gender war. There are no opposing sides here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 10:54 AM
2

She gets nothing in return for the pity sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 10:44 AM
2

There is no other type of validation that makes up for a lack of success with whatever sex you're attracted to. I assume those "happy virgins" feel like they're virgin out of choice and feel pretty confident that, should they want to, they could get sex/a relationship pretty easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 10:44 AM
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Men don't love more unconditionally. We love more indiscriminately. Straight men want sex with women more than straight women want sex with men. That's really the only thing creating this huge inequality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 03:25 PM
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I don't think this has anything to do with pills. People just want different things out of life. I don't fuck so I can't really say with any certainty where I sit between those extremes but I've always felt like sex could and should be something casual unrelated to emotional investment. Like, I don't really see the difference between having a coffee with someone you don't know to get to know them better and having some stranger over to fuck. I don't see why one is less casual than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 09:23 AM
1

Who doesn't want these qualities? Seems like an extremely obvious observation. And I guess how hard they are to find depends on someone's standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 09:44 PM
1

It certainly feels very applicable to the sexual frustration many men feel these days but I doubt that was intended at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 09:40 PM
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Never. I've had "crushes" on a couple of women but that never amounted to much. I also don't believe in love. I believe people can invest emotionally in other people. Combine that with sexual attraction and you've got what most people call (romantic) love.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 09:38 PM
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I live in a country where prostitution is legal and I don't think it has impacted relationships here in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 07:21 PM
1

So men basically leave the dating scene by settling down when they can no longer compete with other men. Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/17 10:34 AM
1

Alpha relates to the sphere of self-interest, domination, competition, violence, etc. Beta relates to the sphere of compassion, empathy, selflessness, loyalty, equality, etc. All alpha traits are attractive but not all of 'em are healthy or constructive. A few beta traits are attractive but most are neutral or unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/17 01:59 PM
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Why do you think he's red-leaning? He was okay with her riding the cock carousel and he was the one to bring up commitment first. Doesn't sound very red pill to me. Just because a man sleeps with a woman but doesn't end up committing to her doesn't mean he's red pilled. Most guys do shit like that. The bluest, most feminist men do shit like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 07:02 PM
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The top 20% of men are probably too busy getting their dick wet to contemplate gender politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 03:06 PM
1

TRP is a place for men feeling like they need help and advice to get the attention of women. Is it any surprise that it ends up filled with men who don't get any attention from women? Black pilled men are overrepresented on the internet in the first place but we're especially numerous on places aimed at unsuccessful men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/17 02:38 PM
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Sure but in the end, it'll still result in an SMP that is forever unequal. So women will be forced to compete for the remaining men. That'll mean fewer stable relationships and more hooking up. Not all women want that and some women won't be able to do it so those women will drop out too. The end result is more men and women feeling lonely. Don't get me wrong, a majority of people will still date and get into relationships but I don't see happiness rise overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 07:40 PM
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All VR porn and sexbots will do is make more men drop out of dating completely. That'll make it harder for women to get commitment and so the ones not interested in just hooking up will drop out as well. More loneliness and more suicides. What an improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 07:23 PM
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Women have always been in control of what they found attractive. It's just that they now have the freedom and independence to act on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/17 03:01 PM
2

People telling me I should just put myself out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 10:48 AM
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Only real determinant for SMV is by looking at who it is you attract. Are you attracting high-value people? Then you are probably high value yourself. I think tallying up your pros and cons doesn't work for SMV. Just see where you place in the market and you'll know your value. And I'm talking about who you consistently attract. The woman in your example doesn't have to question whether she's a 5 or a 7. Make-up is a part of who she is and if it helps her attract high-value men on a regular basi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 10:44 AM
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I think this is very common knowledge actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/17 10:42 AM
1

I don't know who the audience is for 18-minute videos about basic social skills but I'm guessing they're beyond help.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 05:47 PM
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Pretending like there's one big sexual marketplace is dumb. There's a great multitude of marketplaces, some of which overlap. Two 21-year old white men living in the same city can still exist in almost completely separate marketplaces because of class and education-level for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/17 05:37 PM
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I don't think I've ever asked for or gotten dating advice. My parents raised me to know that attractiveness is all that matters when it comes to dating, that women are attracted to masculine men and that rejection shouldn't be taken personally so I never really held any illusions that needed to be dispelled or that made me make all kinds of dating mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 06:44 PM
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I don't see sexbots becoming mainstream in the foreseeable future. I also don't see AI improving to the point of even coming close to mimicking sentience in the foreseeable future. So it seems more than a little premature to start speculating what might happen when intelligent sexbots become widely available. Right now, sexbots will be a toy for a tiny minority. It won't change the SMP all that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/17 07:32 AM
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Those women don't need advice. I don't think they have a lot of problems when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 05:33 PM
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I think women are just people. In real life, I tend to go by individual cases and don't generalize. It's why I have no problem accepting women acting in a wide variety of ways. AWALT is not something I live by. I've got many women-related issues (fear, resentment, perhaps pedestalization too) but those are all my issues, they've got nothing to do with women, either as individuals or as a group.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 05:32 PM
2

Average only matters when it's about the average person I'm typically surrounded by. In my case, that's middle-class twenty-somethings of a diverse racial background. Often in college or just having finished it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 05:27 PM
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What I am trying to make clear here is that there are few people who’s problem is actually looks. The kinds of people your OP is adressing are nearly all held back by their mindset. Occasionally that mindset is genuinely ill. That doesn’t mean they shouldn’t invest in themselves and start taking pride in their looks but that needs to happen alongside a serious effort in changing their mindset. Otherwise the physical changes won’t bring them what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 11:36 AM
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Not trying is a problem for many, one I have a habit of falling back into, but it isn’t the main one. Over the years I’ve lost a ton of weight, started working out, changed my clothingstyle to be more form-fitting and grew out my hair. And yeah, I got compliments on my weightloss and leaner body and even random strangers regurarly complimented my afro. None of it meant anything tho because I still felt, and feel, like a terribly ugly person. I am trying to get back into those better habits again…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 08:58 AM
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For most of us incels, our ugliness is an identity we've (involuntarily) adopted over time. It doesn't even necessarily have to be related to our looks. And changing a few things up isn't going to get rid of it. So, your post is obviously right but it isn't really going to mean anything to incels, aka the only people trying to deny the things you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 06:09 AM
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The reason our "averages" are distorted is that everybody always takes the average within their peer group. I mean, I don't really care about a national average, what matters to me is the average middle class mid-twenties person.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 08:18 PM
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Are men really ready to have their emotional needs met by another man, and their physical needs met by a presumed string of single women? Damn, I sure hope that's what the future holds.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 04:04 PM
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more recreational sex with fewer risks means women being able to entertain their more superficial preferences and allows for the AFBB dating strategy. See above Because women prefer men that do better financially the increased role of women in the labour market has only upped the demands on men. Now, just having a job is no longer a boon. women can fool around with as many men as they want too and because they are no longer expected to have kids they extend their wild party phase and wait longer…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 04:01 PM
1

I meant second sex. I was referring to the book by Simone de Beauvoir but got the title wrong. Anyway, I don't see how anyone could seriously believe feminity is rated as equal to masculinity in society. They very clearly aren't. The point isn't to make girls into boys and vice versa. The point is to allow both boys and girls to express themselves as they see fit. To allow for more freedom and to not constrain children because of their gender. The goal isn't to make special, unique or notable ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 03:50 PM
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Women aren't called the other sex for no reason. Men and masculinity are seen as the default, the norm against which feminity is judged. Because masculinity is the default and privileged sex, women acting in masculine ways aren't seen as degrading themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 03:37 PM
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The point is to raise children freely and not constrain their personal expression because of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 03:34 PM
2

White people's fear of black people is rooted in racism. Women feeling physically threatened by men is rooted in a real difference in power and a history of male violence on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 03:33 PM
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I think it's a pretty reasonable post. Not many people are going to take it seriously or put this much effort into promoting a more egalitarian world but that shouldn't take away from the content of the post. I don't see how any of it is sexist or anti-male. I'm not sure if little boys should be taught to wear pink or to paint their nails but I don't see anything wrong with doing so. The truth is that there's little wrong with young girls being tomboys but the world still frowns on young boys ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 11:29 AM
1

If her exes and past hookups were all like me that would definitely help alleviate the fear of getting settled for. I'd probably be less insecure in a relationship like that and therefore more willing to invest in it. I'd question the sanity of any person whose type is me tho. Having me as your type is just wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 08:23 AM
1

Only games I play are video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 06:21 PM
2

No, increased sexual freedom and the emancipation of women results in pickier women. Sexual liberation = more hot bitches for Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 06:20 PM
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I'd prefer to be a sex object tbh. The chance to be a fully realized independent human being who succeeds on merit is terribly overrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/17 06:16 PM
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I mean, it's nice that she's as inexperienced as I am but the reasons behind it are things I can't relate to at all. I don't think I'm all that compatible with conservative or religious women. So, she wouldn't be my type.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 04:36 PM
2

Because RP advice is written by and for a very specific demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/17 04:34 PM
2

Great minds think alike
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 07:51 PM
2

Not dark triad at all. I'm in the single digits for every trait. But I'm not surprised. I've always known I'm a born betacuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 07:47 PM
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Because the words are more accurate and perfectly understood by the people using them. Just because you associate TRP with things you consider shameful (video games, autism, geekiness) doesn't mean actual red pillers need to feel ashamed. Not everybody is so insecure that they're too ashamed to use the lingo of their own subculture.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 07:43 PM
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No, it's the children who are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 07:39 PM
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Deep down we all get aroused by roughly the same things. So SMV and AFBB don't differ all that much around the world. If you're sexually unattractive in the West you're going to be sexually unattractive everywhere else. It's just that in poor countries you'll be seen as a better prospect for BB and the women will be more desperate for it. But you're crazy if you think that means those women will be actually attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 07:12 AM
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No, the men flocking to TRP know that they are expected to be dominant, both inside and outside of the bedroom, but fear that they're not dominant enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 08:59 PM
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Isn't it men's job to get away from it? Not like women can escape a mental construct men have.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 02:56 PM
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Calling something garbage is not the same thing as saying something doesn't mean anything to you. I'm not trying to attack you or anything. You're free to think whatever you want is garbage, fine by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 01:35 PM
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You just said that you were surrounded by an abundance of garbage. So it does seem pretty likely that you'd find a lot of us garbage too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 08:18 AM
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I think the manosphere will keep existing but it'll increasingly revolve around a core group of inexperienced losers. The more normal or moderate parts of the manosphere will kinda drift off in order to not be associated with the incel/MGTOW crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/17 08:14 AM
2

Hell no. If anything, I'd wanna be a stay-at-home dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 06:01 PM
3

They can find other activities to entertain themselves with. Why else do you think we're all online?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 03:41 PM
2

Sexual freedom, the pill and Tinder have made those requirements much harder to meet tho. For low-value men, it's practically impossible. I think that adds to the bitterness and resentment you see in some men, on top of the unchanging expectations of masculinity you mentioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 02:35 PM
4

I don't think about the boy scouts at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 07:35 AM
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Women might complain but in the end, they are fine with how it is. Women have it much easier than men w.r.t. dating and any changes they'd do would be to our benefit. That's not something we should expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 07:33 AM
2

Naturally attractive and charming men will never not be at the top of the food chain. Every woman is hoping to snag her one of those. The artificial "game" of TRP and PUA is just a method for average men to get a bit better and maybe get a little taste of what the Chad's get.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/17 07:07 AM
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I think it's silly how some people make every pussyhound out to be some dude trying to make up for what he didn't have growing up. Those kinds of men certainly exist, I hope I'll be one someday, but wanting to fuck a lot of women is also just something dudes want. Doesn't have to be related to their past. So just keep fucking you're insecurities and self-esteem issues away and enjoy it while you can. Who knows, maybe you'll want something different in a few years. No use worrying about it right …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 09:45 PM
11

My hand because it doesn't have the upper-body strength to branch-swing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 05:27 PM
1

Obviously, Beyonce and Scarlett are the hottest of this group. The rest are all too skinny for me. But these are photoshopped glamour pics. I’ve got no idea how any of these women look in real life. Maybe irl sagginess, wrinkles and bad skin would lead men to prefer younger women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 04:45 AM
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Eh, I still think those men are picking women they're attracted to. Just not as attracted as they'd like. Now you could say the same is true for women who settle but because women are usually the receiving party sexually speaking it's easier for them to pick men they feel no sexual attraction to whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 09:52 PM
1

I'm always serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 09:38 PM
2

I'm not going to pretend like I have any solid numbers on this but just from what I've observed women definitely seem more likely to get into relationships where they feel little to no sexual attraction towards their partner or where their attraction pales in comparison to what they felt/feel for other men. And if you do look at some of the statistics about sexual satisfaction and regularity of orgasms it sure seems like women are settling more w.r.t. sex than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 09:24 PM
1

I think value is determined by how wanted you are by your preferred sex. And men just want women more than women want men. So that means that nearly all women are wanted by enough men that there's a competition for them. That's the difference between low value women and low value men. Low value men have nobody who wants them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 08:57 PM
3

Straight men will never get into a relationship with women they feel no sexual attraction towards. Plenty of straight women will. That's the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 08:36 PM
2

I dunno, we're just programmed to care about beauty. It's probably the most important part of being attracted to someone. And I meant that there are no low value women in the same way that there are low value men. You could still make a spectrum of value for women but the entire spectrum would still have some value and at both ends, the value would be very subjective. So even low value women would still have value. Low value men, however, are men with no value.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 06:14 PM
2

I disagree. Straight men agree enough on beauty for there to be universally acknowledged attractive women. Those are the high-value women. It's just that there are no low-value women since all women are beautiful to at least some men. And though men agree enough for there to be attractive women, opinions still vary to the point that the distinction between average value women and high value women isn't all that big. That's not the case with men where the difference between low, average and high …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 04:48 PM
2

The reason this aspirational image is so popular is that it's obviously true for many women. Women do not want a relationship just for the sake of having a relationship and they want men to compete for them. That is why men who complain about their dating life are almost always told to work hard to improve, i.e. prove themselves worthy to women. The fact that you think this is all degrading should really help you see what it's like to be a man. Also, it's crazy to think this aspirational image i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 08:30 AM
1

Why do people keep harping on value being subjective? The subjectivity of someone's value only comes into play when there's already value there to begin with. Love8Death is obviously talking about the difference between men with observable value and men without any value. There is no subjectivity there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/17 08:22 AM
3

Goddamn, it must be nice to feel like having to convince others to go out with you is beneath you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 08:35 PM
2

The non-existent kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/17 04:03 PM
1

Seriously? I don't think shaving your pits as a man is really all that uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 09:09 PM
1

I'm a dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 08:23 PM
3

I prefer shaved legs and armpits, I mean I shave my armpits too, but I don't care all that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 07:40 PM
3

Okay, I get a fear of the illegality of it. I live in a place where it's legal but I get that's not the case for everyone. But personally, I just don't see the point of paying a woman to fuck me and pretend to enjoy it. Sounds rather humiliating. Doesn't sound like an experience I'd enjoy much, let alone one worth paying for.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 07:38 PM
0

The reason most of us don't want to see an escort is not that we're "afraid" to hire one. Like, why the hell would anyone be afraid about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 07:05 PM
1

Why are people so invested in the other people posting here? We're all just a bunch of strangers talking about some bullshit. Don't let it get to you like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 06:53 PM
2

So sad to see one of our own in the closet. Embrace the black pill brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 06:52 PM
0

As long as you can ignore the edgier memes, you'll find that we're lowkey some of the funniest dudes around.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 06:49 PM
1

Too many to count. But to name just one, Mei from Overwatch could definitely get it. I'd be all over those Chinese cheeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 02:18 PM
1

It'd be over if anyone ever found out about this or previous Reddit accounts. Might as well pack up my bags and move to Siberia in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 01:27 PM
1

I dunno, I enjoy jerking off quite a bit and I assume it's even better with another person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 01:23 PM
3

What prize do we get?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 01:22 PM
1

Congrats on figuring something out everybody already knew and still being smug about it I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/17 05:34 AM
1

More reason to try kratom. I can order that shit online like it's pizza. Just the right amount of effort for my incel ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 09:25 PM
1

I've always wanted to try lean but codeine isn't easy to come by over here. Cough syrup with codeine in it can only be gotten with a prescription.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 09:21 PM
1

I can't really remember, just that it was all low scores. None higher than 20%.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 09:17 PM
1

That's why I'm curious about it. Something rather weak that I can drink like a tea throughout the day sounds perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 09:16 PM
1

I'm unattractive to the other sex (and the same sex probably). Photofeeler even confirmed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 09:08 PM
1

Sounds like she hates you. Abandon ship buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 09:06 PM
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Yeah sure, I've always heard church is where all the cool kids hang out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 09:04 PM
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Drugs are fun and all but why do some of y'all talk about that shit like it changes lives. We're talking about weed here, not DMT or some shit. Weed doesn't really do all that much for me. I've been curious about kratom tho. Maybe buy a motorcycle and take a trip to SE Asia to "find yourself." The fuck kind of Julia Roberts shit is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 09:02 PM
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Fuck if I know. Alive is the best I'm hoping for.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 07:45 PM
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Sounds pretty backhanded. I don't see myself as the cute or adorable type and I don't want to either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 07:38 PM
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We can't call those guys douchebags because that word is reserved for the men we envy because they're popular with girls. I guess doormat seems like a popular word for that old version of the nice guy these days. Especially when you put supplicating in front of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 07:37 PM
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He's far from the only one who feels the need to constantly signal that he's not "one of the losers" but he's definitely the worst about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 07:34 PM
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I recently watched the 13th and just about the only positive thing I could take away from that was that Michelle Alexander and young Angela Davis are hot as fuck. So right now they're my perfect partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 03:35 PM
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Just because someone acted nice they weren't a nice person? So what makes a person nice then? Also, that "supplicating doormat" strawman is getting old as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 03:33 PM
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Magical? Alcohol is majorly overrated. All it does is make me sleepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 01:24 PM
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No fucking shit. This is exactly what most guys here have been saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 09:05 AM
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SO what you're saying is I need to stop showing women my Reddit post history? Because that's the only place I'm whiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 07:59 AM
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The same exact thing that introverted homebody women with few friends have to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 07:58 AM
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Leave the whiny posts about being ugly to those of us who are actually ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 07:57 AM
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In the end, black pill concerns the question of what some men are able to get out of life when it comes to female desire and that's not something that can be debated with hard evidence. Some men just believe that a combination of looks and "game"/personality will keep them from ever having a woman genuinely desire them. The game, or war if you want, will never play out in their favor and they accept it. Seeing as that none of us knows each other and the "genuineness" of desire isn't measurable, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 05:02 PM
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How is this a surprise to anyone? Every overweight woman on the planet can tell you men get boners from fat chicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/17 01:43 PM
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I'm half-white and half-black so according to your system, I'd have all the masculine goodness. Still can't get laid tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/17 09:13 PM
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