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things are shit for both men and women in other countries though. the only way to escape gynocentrism is to go to a 3rd world country where things are shit anyways? I don't even agree that non western countries are solely androcentric. india is gynocentric too, look at the 'how can she slap' video to see what i mean
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 08:45 PM
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again, I'm not saying women didn't have it tough, but it is impossible to determine how many women were raped, and I think it's quite far to say rape is worse than murder. while they may have raped the women, they killed their male counterparts. I think it is a form of virtue signalling/chivalry for men to claim that women have it harder than them. I see it happen a lot nowadays, too. the whole "poor women" sentiment seem like a form of white knighting. I think the stats on men being forced to w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/22 07:12 PM
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in my country, the UK, most men couldn't vote until 1918. I'm not going to deny that women also had it tough in the past, and didn't have as much freedom (in terms of the law), but in return, men had to take on much more responsibility. can you really say you would rather be born a male than a female in 1900? most men had to work hard in gruelling labour-intensive jobs, died sooner and were forced to war while women were protected. personally I'd much rather be a housewife even if it means I can…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 01:20 PM
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I believe that technologies regarding the home such as the dishwasher and washing machine (both invented by men) allowed gender roles to change as women had more free time to work jobs. before that, women didn't really earn money so they wouldn't need a bank account (their money came from their husband), and as for voting, most men didn't have the vote either. only property owners did. ofcourse yes, it took a while for culture to fully adapt as it had been this way for many generations. I don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 06:28 AM
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I don't think men pushed gender roles. I think they were made out of necessity to deal with the harsh world. now that technology has improved so much, it has become less necessary. also men and women can be shallow, I agree. the difference is that women (specifically gen Z women) have very high standards now, due to a multitude of causes, in particular gynocentrism.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 07:10 PM
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good for you, that's different from the vast majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 11:27 PM
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women are attracted to looks, money and social status. the only reason a 'nerd' would be considered desirable is if his nerdiness can get him money. women who want to settle down (usually at around ~30 yrs old when the attractive guy doesn't want her anymore) tend to go for a guy who is more secure financially. tell me...when you say you are attracted to 'nerds', are you talking about the neckbeard video game nerd who knows every pokemon, or the engineer nerd who earns a lot of money from being …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 11:44 PM
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yep, you can't compare lesbian relationships to straight relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:11 PM
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they are a reflection of what women are attracted to. do you really think women would choose the harmless nerd over the muscular jock with the strong jaw? even though the jock is clearly more likely to abusive? cmon now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/22 05:07 PM
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i never said that quote. women will end up never being able to get into a monogamous LTR because of their standards
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/22 03:56 PM
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if women were analytical, they'd lower their standards and go for a guy on their level who would commit after chad doesn't commit. but instead they try and find a chad who will commit, which is what causes all the problems
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 04:40 AM
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social media has a huge impact on our real lives. online dating is no different. almost half of 18-29 yr olds have tried online dating, and that was before covid. long term relationships involve sex, so the male virginity rate is a sign of men less able to have relationships as well as hookups. women want LTR's, but they often choose casual sex. this is because they'd rather share a high value man than settle for a beta who'll commit. this is the problem with hypergamy. average women want the hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 12:46 AM
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you can call them wrong but my point is that it's not just men who can't get laid who talk about hypergamy. male virginity rate is rising. women swipe on a tiny % of men on dating apps (which is a reflection of the wider dating market in real life), there's too much evidence for hypergamy to deny it at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 08:40 PM
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uh no. people from pickup artists to jordan peterson talk about hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 06:12 PM
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irresponsible, selfish behaviour then
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 06:11 PM
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some do, but it's a shitty deal for men. you can't expect men do pick up from women's mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 07:01 AM
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uh...no.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 06:18 AM
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sure it is bro
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 06:03 AM
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I don't see this as a proper solution as it cucks men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 06:03 AM
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look, when women only go for the top 20% of men, it prevents many men from becoming fathers. women can still reproduce with the same men or by sperm donations. the creation of single mothers is a guarantee. 40% of men are childless compared to 16% of women (us census bureau 2014). fatherless children are more likely to commit crime, commit suicide, do bad in school etc etc. this is what hypergamy does.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 04:08 PM
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well it's bad for the kids who have to grow up in fatherless homes because this shit destroys families
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 03:02 PM
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thats hardly a solution
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 03:01 PM
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we don't see women going for the best available man that they can land. if women went for the best man they can land (by 'land', i assume this means get to commit to them), then women would be going for men who are roughly on their level, since 50% of the population are male and 50% female. we don't see this though. what we see is women trying to 'land' the best possible man they can hookup with, which tends to be the 'chad' types. when chad doesn't commit, women just try and find a chad who wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 12:07 PM
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I don't understand what women's rights have to do with anything. Also I didn't come up with my ideas out of nowhere. this stuff is spoken about by academics like jordan peterson who knows much more about psychology/evolution than either of us. do you think women aren't wired for these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 10:59 AM
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when applied to wider society, it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 10:55 AM
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how is this relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 10:54 AM
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generalising much?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 10:54 AM
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I think it hurts women and men. I am concerned for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 10:53 AM
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they can have expectations, but don't set expectations on others that's greater than what you bring to the table yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 08:14 PM
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"prolly never kissed a girl" nice retort.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 07:35 PM
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there has never been a time in human history where female hypergamy was allowed to run rampant, uncontrolled. women were under the control of their tribe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:22 PM
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statistics show that women are getting married later later and birth rates are getting lower and lower. the virginity rates are also going up...I think it is becoming more of an issue in 2022
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:21 PM
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it makes sense why a couple would be similar looking if a woman compromises on her hypergamy to be monogamous, although still I rarely see below-average men in relationships unless they have money. I do think that women's lack of attraction for the vast majority of guys is more of a cultural thing than a biological fact, though, so it can be changed if our culture changes. if it was biological fact then the same guy who gets rejected in the uk would also get rejected cross-culturally, but what y…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 05:47 PM
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I don't think women are doomed to be unattracted to the majority of men. They don't have to settle for an uggo, just someone at their own level.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 05:40 PM
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oh I completely get that, I'm a male...but in 2022, feminism tells women that they deserve it all. i think thats a large reason why this is becoming an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 05:39 PM
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It's their choice, and they can make that choice if they want...but I don't think women are aware that hypergamy directly sabotages monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 05:33 PM
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you cannot engage in hook-up culture and claim to be monogamous. that's not how it works, even if you aren't in bed with multiple men at the exact same time. hookups =/= relationships. also it's well known that women are hypergamous. it's a well-studied part of female nature and I'm not going to argue on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 05:32 PM
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as I said in my thread, it leads to women ending up alone/unfulfilled if they aren't willing to compromise on either monogamy or hypergamy. I think this makes women unhappy. I think it's important to fix unhappiness if we can.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 05:27 PM
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men with high standards aren't the norm, as men aren't naturally hypergamous. I think polyamory and open relationships are getting more common, and I did mention casual sex in my thread. yes, it can be one person at a time but the concept of monogamy implies long-term, which is something I also specified. if a women sees 5 men in quick succession over the span of a month, you can't really call it monogamy even if it's 1 man at a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 05:25 PM
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that seems like a disaster for the kids if they have to grow up without a dad. I think the single motherhood rate is increasing due to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 05:16 PM
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Does monogamy win out in 2022 though? I see a lot of zoomer/millenial women hooking up and complaining about how men won't commit. Instead of compromising on their hypergamy (lowering their standards) and going for a lower-value man who will commit, they keep trying to find a 'chad' who will commit, and end up being alone and frustrated. You don't really see this with men as men aren't hypergamous. it seems like hypergamy wins out a lot of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 05:14 PM
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yep. wouldn't call them the 'better' half, though...lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 04:41 PM
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not just abusive relationships. they literally go for assholes. and there's studies showing that women are more attractive to dark triad personality traits. what happened to women wanting a sweet/caring guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 12:18 PM
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"women arent looking for sexual bounty as much as men are". are you assuming men only care about sex? most men want relationships just like women. women are the selectors in sex and relationships. also I know full well that women like prettyboys. basically, good facial genetics. tinder experiments show what women find physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 10:04 PM
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the term 'cat lady' is usually used in the context of making fun women who go the feminist 'strong and independent woman' route in life, or they price themselves out of the market, only to realise they're 40, alone and depressed with cats to keep them company since they have no man. single older women in general aren't seen as losers
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 09:52 PM
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men judge women for not having a partner? where do you get this idea from?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 08:57 PM
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thanks for the vid, i'll watch it. what relevance does this have to my post, though? also, I will say that i've seen data showing that women and men both value physical attractiveness first and foremost. the difference is that women claim that they don't care as much about looks, but when you evaluate their behaviour, they care about looks as much as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 08:48 PM
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is that why women swipe on only 4.5% on male profiles on tinder?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 05:55 PM
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we don't live in a hookup culture as the majority of men cannot be a part of the 'culture'. we live in hypergamy culture; most women go for a minority of men at the top. unfortunately there's not enough men at the top to go around to pair off with all the women. this means women have to share (polygamy) or take turns (hookups)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 05:16 PM
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they'd rather sleep around with a high value man than commit to their equal. this is why hookup culture is so prevalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 06:14 AM
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there's a thing called sperm donation y'know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 06:11 AM
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how can women be the gatekeepers of sex, and men be the gatekeepers of relationships, when relationships almost always involve sex? I've heard that saying before but it makes no sense. women are the gatekeepers full stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 06:06 AM
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you can't really compare your experiences to the experience of the average male. you don't have to live up to women's hypergamous standards like men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 06:04 AM
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my point is that because women are hypergamous (very very hypergamous nowadays), it's far harder to be a male searching for a partner than it is to be a female searching for a partner. it might as well be equivalent to being rich vs being poor. most men have zero value in the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 06:03 AM
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polygamy is illegal? huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 06:01 AM
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you're missing my point. i'm not trying to judge women for being stuck in abusive relationships, I'm saying that the fact that women often end up with assholes who abuse them (despite them saying they want a 'good man') shows a disparity between what women think they want, and what they're actually attracted to. it proves that many women lack self-awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 05:44 AM
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it's a matter of principle. just like how a neurotypical person has no right to judge someone who is suffering from autism if they struggle socially, or how an able-bodied person has no right to judge a physically disabled person for struggling with a physical task. I am NOT talking about legal rights. it's a figure of speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 08:56 PM
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what? that makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 08:48 PM
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did you even read this guy's post? I'm assuming you think his opinions are toxic but I may be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 08:46 PM
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great post. I disagree that looks 99.999% of the time it isnt looks which seduce women, but the point about women being attracted to men who display so-called 'toxic masculinity' is something I've been saying for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 08:44 PM
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not just tinder, I said online apps in general. tinder is one of them. here's the data: https://www.statista.com/chart/20822/way-of-meeting-partner-heterosexual-us-couples keep in mind this was before covid happened. imagine now. there's other data which shows the same thing. reddit is annoying though and wont let me paste links so I gotta type it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 08:38 PM
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I'm not crying about being judged, I am pointing out women's lack of self-awareness when they are judgemental towards people with issues they can't understand. It's something they need to be made aware of.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 08:22 PM
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tinder (or the vast majority of methods honestly) is bad for finding most men relationships or hookups because in 2022, women's standards are through the roof. a lot of guys are gonna die alone, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 08:21 PM
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men are not the gatekeepers of relationships if they aren't high-value. relationships have sex in them, so that's a mute point. also the reason men outnumber women on dating apps is because men struggle much more to find a partner irl, so use any means of searching far and wide. plus, the number of men/women who have tried online dating isn't all that different, but men tend to be on the apps longer as this is necessary to get any results.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 08:02 PM
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i dont see women called losers nearly as much as men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 08:00 PM
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too lazy to read all that, but from your first point, if women knew what they want, how come they keep complaining about their abusive bf they CHOSE to date? you don't ask a fish how to catch fish, you ask a fisherman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 07:59 PM
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meeting online is the no.1 way people get into relationships nowadays, statistically. there are other apps like discord, sc and insta. many people have gotten into relationships from online dating too, including multiple people from my family.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 07:57 PM
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I am not advocating against freedom of expression
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 07:50 PM
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Just-exist mode XD
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 07:46 PM
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you can talk about rights in different contexts from legal rights. like, if a neurotypical person is being judgemental about an autistic person's bad social skills, i'd say they have no right to judge them as they have no idea what it's like.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 01:53 PM
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maybe, although there are a lot of men looking for relationships online, too. if you dont wanna use tinder you can use any other dating app, instagram, discord etc. meeting online is statistically the no.1 method people get into relationships in 2022, so it's not all about hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 01:51 PM
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what age
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 01:44 PM
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what you are talking about only applies to alphas. the small % of men at the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 01:42 PM
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true. even fat women get lots of attention online.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 01:41 PM
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most men cant choose who they want. beggars cant be choosers. thats why so many guys mass - swipe on tinder HOPING TO GOD they get a single match.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 01:39 PM
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I didnt use the word incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 01:36 PM
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try tinder. or any app. you're welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 01:35 PM
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im talking about the majority of men, not the small % of men at the top who are very good looking/wealthy. those men get to choose just like a woman can.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 12:11 PM
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when i say 'judge' i mean criticise from a position of perceiving yourself as an authority on the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 12:08 PM
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I'm not saying it should be illegal to judge someone, but on a matter of principle, you can't criticise someone for being a certain way when they have worse circumstances than you, and you might be the same way if you were stuck in their circumstance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 12:06 PM
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I'm not saying it should be illegal to judge someone, but on a matter of principle, you can't criticise someone for being a certain way when they have worse circumstances than you, and you might be the same way if you were stuck in their circumstance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 12:06 PM
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