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My favorite comment (in the screenshot): Remember: Everyone should have known Lindy was hungover, and been extra nice to her as a result. That is, of course, assuming it's sarcasm.
/r/MensRights25/12/13 06:35 AM
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The thing is, though, you let dog shit sit for too long, everything just starts to stink.
/r/MensRights24/12/13 11:12 PM
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Have you tried this sidebar link about why feminism is not a solution for men's issues?
/r/MensRights24/12/13 06:12 PM
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Trust me, what you did was nothing to garner hate for her. SHE was the one who cheated and SHE was the one who made a false rape accusation. She brought this hate all on herself because of the choices she's made. and yet everybody involved seems to be making excuses to protect her from her own actions. That isn't equality, that is infantilization. Edit: added a letter
/r/MensRights24/12/13 03:29 AM
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You say It's not. But then you say it is. Which one is it?
/r/MensRights24/12/13 03:20 AM
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As with /u/Arn13 I will link to my reply in another post of why I, as an MRA, reject feminism. And there are Men's Rights Activists who would certainly agree both sexes are negatively affected by sexism. I certainly agree that both sexes experience problems. But I will never say that one sex has it worse than the other. As for the two issues you bring up. Rape: I am appalled by your claim that we somehow do not care about victims of rape. It is horrendous and nobody should ever have to suffer fr…
/r/MensRights23/12/13 07:42 PM
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So why is then that her protecting her reputation is more important than your well-being?
/r/MensRights23/12/13 07:22 PM
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Regardless of her, do you have any desire to fight to clear your name? Not wanting revenge I can understand, but walking around with these accusations for something you did not do, do you want to fight for your own reputation?
/r/MensRights23/12/13 06:33 PM
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And I agree with you 100 percent. But I find most people who say they want to remove gender roles also end up doing one of two things: Shaming people who enjoy and thrive in traditional gender roles Instituting new roles about how men and/or women should feel, behave, etc. Now, I don't get the vibe from you that you are going do either of those, but I get it from a lot of other feminists. And that a big part of why I have such a negative view of feminism.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 08:28 PM
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MRA's, from my understanding, believe that men are harmed or otherwise negatively affected because of their gender. Feminists, also from my understanding, believe that women are harmed or otherwise negatively affected because of their gender more than men. Those last three words are the important part, because as long as feminists view women as worse off than men, there is no way feminism and the MRM could combine into one movement.
/r/MensRights20/12/13 07:24 PM
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I don't know a single feminist, except maybe the radical ones, who would discourage men from taking up child-care. I would agree there, but I only feel that it's half the story. And if you want to look at Friedan and the Second Shift, all it does for feminism is it presents the domestic sphere as a burden. This relates back to the whole burden/privilege dynamic. There are some women out there who view domestic work as a privilege, and want to stay home and care for their family and children. Tha…
/r/MensRights19/12/13 04:58 PM
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No problem, Happy to respond. And I agree a lot with what you say in terms of social movements and balance. It's something I feel is important. There is also something else that I would like to add. You talk about the political sphere as where men have power. My response to that is look at the domestic sphere, and the immense amount of influence women have there. When it comes to such things as raising children and taking care of the family, women have had power in the domestic sphere, a power t…
/r/MensRights19/12/13 09:19 AM
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I do believe male privilege exists in a way that is substantially more powerful than claims of female privilege, because I had it and I lost it. See, this is where I disagree with you. As valid as your experience is, to say that one person's experience thus proves the existence of male privilege as more powerful than female privilege leads into some very slippery territory.Not only because you do not speak for all men, or all women, but because what you desire and expect out of life is a very su…
/r/MensRights19/12/13 08:46 AM
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No, no no. All wrong. Everyone knows that men aren't idiots, they're jerks. If you're going to generalize, at least do it correctly. Edit: /s
/r/MensRights14/12/13 11:37 PM
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I certainly would want an educated partner, or at least someone willing and able to help provide for the household. But when it comes to children, I would at least like one of us to stay home in their early years, or keep working hours to an absolute minimum, to help care for them.
/r/MensRights10/12/13 03:49 PM
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Modern Feminism, for claiming to be advocating for women, talk a lot about men. There's patriarchy, male privilege, toxic masculinity, male gaze, etc. There's also plenty of articles on how men should behave. Now, this wouldn't piss me off as much if something like the behavior of these (mostly female) protesters in Argentina, or any feminist protest with bad behavior (the U of T protests come to mind), was condemned or looked at critically by anyone claiming to support feminism. This is not equ…
/r/MensRights08/12/13 08:59 AM
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True. Just explicitly stating that most people don't condone mugging, just in case someone starts assuming we live in a "mugging culture".
/r/MensRights07/12/13 08:08 PM
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If I walk down a dark alley in a bad neighborhood at night and get mugged... people say "Well why the fuck were you even there? That was dumb..." not "Poor baby! Let's start a campaign about muggers so that these atrocities can be stopped!" From my experience, people usually say both those things.
/r/MensRights07/12/13 07:00 PM
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Not so much men's rights as it is a company using "girl empowerment" as an excuse to potentially violate copyright law. The ends do not always justify the means, and just because you want to "fight misogyny" does not automatically give you the right to use other people's intellectual property for commercial reasons, especially without permission. Basically, a reminder that not everything is a gender issue, and to watch out for those that try to spin it as a gender issue.
/r/MensRights25/11/13 09:44 PM
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I think my friend's 3 year old kid said the exact same thing yesterday.
/r/MensRights19/11/13 06:22 PM
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You want to complain because drunk people on the bus are loud and obnoxious? Go right ahead. I don't know what will happen, but I can understand the sentiment. You want to complain because drunk people are singing a cheeky, if vulgar, song that you find offensive? Well I found it funny. Now we're at an impasse. Equality would mean that each of our opinions are equal. If you claim to be a feminist fighting for equality, while at the same time believing you should have the power to decide not only…
/r/MensRights12/11/13 05:37 PM
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What scares me most about proponents of rape culture is the fact that these people seem so willing to tweak the legal system into the scary but true possibility (if not reality) of innocent people getting arrested, convicted, and/or shamed for the rest of their lives for a crime they never committed. Legal justice isn't perfect, and yes, there will be guilty people that slip through the cracks, and that fucking sucks. But risking conviction of innocent people in the hopes that more rapists go to…
/r/MensRights05/11/13 11:18 AM
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I'd say more, but /u/girlwriteswhat basically summarized my thought process so...I'm just going to fanboy over the fact that I got summarized by GWW.
/r/MensRights04/11/13 04:46 PM
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Femininity is also considered beautiful, nurturing, and considerate. Masculinity is considered cold and inherently violent. Being a "dick" means you have a poor attitude and no one likes being around you. There are positives and negatives to each side, and I see no evidence that one is "worse" than the other. How come there isn't a feminist theory about negative traits women exhibit a la toxic masculinity? If there is, please send me a link, I would love to read about it. And regardless of that,…
/r/MensRights04/11/13 05:47 AM
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But that doesn't mean masculinity doesn't get valued more than feminine traits because of our cultural past, or that women don't suffer because of it. Where is this de-valuing of femininity? I heard a lot of talk from feminists about how femininity is considered weak, and how it's considered worse than the masculine, and how its not valuable and yet I have not seen any evidence for this. Even so, if feminism's goal is, in its eyes, raise the feminine up to the masculine, then why does such a con…
/r/MensRights04/11/13 04:21 AM
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Who said those places had to offer perms? If all people can afford is places that provide boring but effective cuts, then that's what they get.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 08:47 PM
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For the last 120 years women have missed out. This is about getting women equity. First of all, massive generalization. Second, What have they been missing out on?!? 41% of the caucus is female. I'm sure there are other women in caucuses as well. It hardly seems to me like women are "missing out" in politics. Third, you want gender equity in politics? Have a department for Men's Affairs.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 07:46 PM
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But why force people who are never going to dye or perm hair to get licensed for that? If these are men's barbers, they're probably never going to cut or style women's hair. I can understand licensing for the chemical stuff, but for them to lump chemical hair styling with simple cutting is ridiculous.
/r/MensRights03/11/13 07:35 PM
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Lots of women we saw were either leaving because they had inflexible jobs or were prioritizing their husband's career over theirs. They wanted to work. God forbid women make sacrifices in order to put more time or effort into their family. Did you ask these women how much their husbands or children meant to them? For many people I know, work is one step below family on the priority ladder. Are you saying that women should prioritize work over family? Because that will lead to a lot of unhealthy …
/r/MensRights30/10/13 07:22 PM
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I'm just curious as to how this case related to gender roles. How innate are they? If David as a kid would have rather used his dad's screwdriver to take apart his toy sewing machine, and preferred slacks to dresses, what does that say about gender and what we consider as "stereotypical gender roles". It reminds me of this article about how young monkeys would choose different toys based on gender; Boy monkeys would choose cars and girl monkeys would choose dolls. http://www.livescience.com/2267…
/r/MensRights30/10/13 06:53 PM
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I have 2 main dislikes of feminism. First is the whole use of the oppressor/oppressed narrative. Men and women are affected by their gender equally. No one is oppressing, no one is oppressed. Second is the fact that there is a HUGE double standard within feminism. That women are able to tell men what do to and how to act and essentially defining masculinity and what it means to be a man, and yet men are not allowed to do the same for women. "You don't know what it's like to be a woman!" And yet,…
/r/MensRights23/10/13 04:37 PM
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Thought 1. It bugs me that masculinity and issues surrounding it are never discussed in a context of how it affects men. It's always, always how masculinity, specifically "hyper" or "toxic" masculinity affects women. If feminists are going to play the "patriarchy hurts men too" card, Then let's improve our men's lives because men deserve it and not because women are somehow hurt in the process. Thought 2. I think the reason that the event is men only because I know a lot of men (myself included)…
/r/MensRights19/10/13 04:00 PM
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Of course this piece was written by a woman. Why do feminist women think they understand men and the male experience? I mean, I've heard of "grass being greener on the other side" and all that but goddammit! Ladies, the moment you say you understand the male experience better than men, and therefore that gives you the right to comment on men's lives, I instantly lose all respect for you. Because if I wrote about piece saying that I know women's lives and all the perks being a woman, you would cu…
/r/MensRights14/10/13 03:31 PM
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Gay men are abused by their partners. Gay men are raped or otherwise violated, even by women. Gay men are separated from their children. Gay men are demonized just for being around children. Gay men are circumcised against their will. Gay men are told that their masculinity is monstrous. Gay men are struggling in school. Gay men are reduced to being nothing more than their sexuality. Gay men feel pain that is ignored or minimized by others. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ These are all p…
/r/MensRights11/10/13 02:12 AM
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It's a woman trying to say that she understands men's experiences better than men themselves.
/r/MensRights03/10/13 06:38 AM
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Okay....I don't know if/how you plan on implementing that. What constitutes embarassing hatred can be very subjective, as one's embarrassing hatred can be another's justified seething. But if that is your goal, best of luck to you. I will try at the very least to not be outright insulting. A quick sidenote: The whole "I realize I'll get down voted and you'll all respond with get the fuck out of here", I find that to be a bit of a copout, and somewhat patronizing. Please don't tell me how you thi…
/r/MensRights02/10/13 05:11 PM
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I'm curious. What would your solution be then? What would you tell people who were genuinely interested in men's rights about where they should go and what they should do?
/r/MensRights02/10/13 03:42 PM
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If they don't feel free to say "no", it's not consent. Yup, it's rape because I'm apparently supposed to be able to read someone else's mind. Thinking "no" does not lack of consent make.
/r/MensRights02/10/13 03:35 PM
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and that's where the MHRM comes in. Build spaces for men. Or build spaces where gender is not part of the criteria for attending.
/r/MensRights30/09/13 09:54 AM
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They do, but in this situation, the OP mentioned nothing about men's only groups.
/r/MensRights30/09/13 08:26 AM
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I'm not too bothered by it. People can form groups of whatever they want. Start a "men only" or even "heterosexual men only" group if you really want to. I'd only start to take issue if people start claiming that "men only" groups are sexist while "women only" groups are allowed to remain standing.
/r/MensRights30/09/13 07:54 AM
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I would love to see a feminist man work up the chutzpah to make a "dating tips for the feminist woman" list. That would be equality, right?
/r/MensRights28/09/13 07:19 PM
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When did everyone start assuming the worst in people? To the point where they had to move recess inside and cancel sports practice just because one guy in a truck actually lost his dog? Why has "don't trust anyone" become the default here?
/r/MensRights28/09/13 06:44 PM
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Fair enough. My own personal issues with feminism stem from a handful of experiences I've had with feminism. First, is a double standard I found that I summarize as "Don't tell me how to be a woman, but let me tell you how to be a man." I've seen feminists claim that because men don't have a uterus/female identity, they cannot validly comment on issues such as abortion, appropriate dress, female sexual behavior, etc. Which is fine, I can respect that. But then the problem comes in where feminist…
/r/MensRights26/09/13 08:39 PM
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So then my question would be who then do you feel should deal with the masculine side of the issue? Also, I'm curious as to what you mean by "gender can be used to enforce hierarchy"
/r/MensRights26/09/13 07:43 PM
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What I mean by gender hierarchy comes down to the dynamic of men as systematic oppressors and women as systematically oppressed.
/r/MensRights26/09/13 07:06 PM
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Do you also believe in a gender hierarchy?
/r/MensRights26/09/13 06:44 PM
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I identify with the MRM because I firmly believe that men and women are affected by their gender equally.
/r/MensRights26/09/13 04:38 PM
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I think this piece does have good information to offer. Women should look for men who love them, respect them, and don't abuse them. Men should be respectful and caring to women. Just as men should look for women who love them, respect them, and don't abuse them, and women should be respectful and caring to men. This whole teach your kids respect thing, It's kind of a two way street.
/r/MensRights26/09/13 01:15 AM
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I've certainly known and met feminists who believe that men can be victims of rape and sexual violence. The problem for me comes when these same feminists say that women still have it worse off than men i.e. 2 rape/assault victims, one male, one female, and feminism says the female is much worse off, even when the male suffered from the exact same thing.
/r/MensRights25/09/13 05:27 PM
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You're welcome!
/r/MensRights24/09/13 05:07 PM
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Look at that, another article written by a woman telling men how to behave. To which I respond, "Or what?" No seriously lady, what are you going to do if I don't act the way you want me to act? Guilt trip me? I spent 20 years and counting surrounded by middle-aged and elderly jewish women, try me. Withhold sexual/romantic favors? Well, I like dudes so... Fire me? You're not my boss. I genuinely have no reason to care about what you say. But again, the best part is the moment I try to pull this o…
/r/MensRights24/09/13 02:56 AM
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How many times have you seen a commercial/music video/general piece of media where men are used as furniture? How about women? Honestly, if women are beautiful figurines set on pedestals, then men are ratty old chairs you let your pets chew and claw on. ...But only women suffer from objectification, right?
/r/MensRights24/09/13 02:17 AM
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No, that should not be the only reason to want a man. I was attempting to say that one aspect of traditional masculinity I fully enjoy is when the people in my life allow me to provide for them and protect them. This certainly could apply to other men as well. What I have a problem with in this article is that from my perspective, these women view relationships as something wanted but not needed. People who view relationships in this way bug the absolute crap out of me. I don't just want the rel…
/r/MensRights21/09/13 05:16 PM
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I think this piece really outlines how little feminists actually understand masculinity. Why do they think most men pushed for successful careers in the first place? For personal fulfillment? Or so that men would feel proud and happy because they provided for their families? It's almost as if men's ambition was determined by having a wife and children wanting their men to provide for them, and men getting satisfaction out of doing that. I sincerely want to ask the people in this article why they…
/r/MensRights21/09/13 04:29 PM
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Okay, I confess. I read the full Jezebel article, and this is what I found, It's about his feelings about women, impropriety, watching his daughter grow up and become autonomous or sexual, and not wanting that to happen or not wanting it to happen yet, or not wanting it to happen like this or whatever, insert dad fear here. Aren't that what dads are supposed to do. Care about their children's well being? Not wanting their 13 year old daughters to be sleeping around? Making sure his kids have sel…
/r/MensRights20/09/13 04:55 AM
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There are specific problems related to non-heterosexuals, but if I had to choose between same-sex marriage and the non-demonization of masculinity, I would choose the latter everytime. The only time feminists ever seem to give me sympathy is because I'm gay, so I'm "oppressed like them". I refuse to view my life as oppression, because otherwise shit doesn't get done. Of course women can be MRAs. Lady MRAs, if you're reading this. I f!&king love you guys!
/r/MensRights20/09/13 04:41 AM
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No, They're forced to buy pink lincoln logs instead of regular ones, remember?
/r/MensRights19/09/13 09:19 PM
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Gay male here, some issues that I feel MRM works for. Male identity: I feel like the MRM understands more than most that gay men are MEN, not women. They don't call me "girl", they understand that sometimes, I get angry and want to shoot things, or play video games where I blow shit up. They understand my desire, happiness, and personal growth when I embrace traditional masculinity, and spend time around men doing manly activities that don't involve sex. They don't touch my chest and ass because…
/r/MensRights19/09/13 08:35 PM
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I despise pink because to me it represents oppression. You heard it here everyone, time to dismantle the color pink, as it is now a patriarchal force of oppression towards women. /s EDIT: Threw in a /s for safekeeping.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 07:25 PM
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While this is fantastic, I hope for a day when we can finally drop the "too", where domestic violence against men is not just an add-on, or afterthought, for domestic violence against women, but its own conversation.
/r/MensRights19/09/13 06:05 PM
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You forgot the morning after pill (Unless that fell under the category of abortion).
/r/MensRights19/09/13 05:50 PM
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These numbers [14 men to 6 women] are by no means perfect, but were perhaps reflective of the gender ratio of Labor’s elected officials. This sentence says it all. The author believes there is such a thing as a "perfect" gender ratio of elected officials. Because clearly the best indicator of how successful or productive a government is the gender ratio of the cabinet. (It's not actually, gender doesn't usually indicate a person's political ideology, as much as I would like say that my testicles…
/r/MensRights17/09/13 06:31 AM
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I just found this post so heartbreaking. That these men almost seem to assume the role of abuser because why? Women told them so? Seeing people view themselves as monsters or say that their pain as irrelevant even when they have done absolutely nothing wrong just makes me want to hug them more than anything else. It's honestly less about my issues with feminism at this point, I just want to let all these men know that there is at least one person out there will love them, respect them, and not v…
/r/MensRights13/09/13 03:16 PM
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To say that only those who belong to an ideology can critique it is a very poor statement to make, to say nothing of atheists who judge religious ideology, or conservatives who judge liberal ideologies. And while it is one thing to say "Women should feel attractive when we cat-call them." it's a different thing to say "I don't see/believe that patriarchy exists and that women are more oppressed than men."
/r/MensRights13/09/13 01:24 AM
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A healthy masculinity is one which is not based upon the belittlement of femininity and women. Would somebody like to point out what belittling femininity looks like? Also, they are aware that healthy femininity should not belittle masculinity or men, right? At least, I hope so.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 11:31 PM
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I have specific nitpicks, but it all stems back to the fact that Feminism insists on a gender hierarchy that does not exist.
/r/MensRights11/09/13 11:23 PM
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Gay football coach, my favorite kind of porn!
/r/MensRights05/09/13 06:30 PM
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You know what bugs me the most? It's the fact that I'm supposed to feel sympathy for these women. These women who whine and complain about having to choose what their future, their family, and their career look like, whether that be high-flying businesswoman, stay at home mother, or anything else in between. The "work vs. family" debate is a luxury most men don't even get to participate in. Note how in the original article, the words "fatherhood", or "dad" never make an appearance. Assuming thes…
/r/MensRights05/09/13 04:34 PM
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I don't think it's just that, but I hear most feminists say that "femininity" and "the feminine" (Showing emotion, crying, etc) are signs of weakness. I don't think I've heard anyone else but feminists say this. Most people I know view showing emotion as a sign of strength and good emotional and mental health.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 05:43 AM
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"I feel this is a big step in the right direction," Mary Grenen said, "and will allow the PIAA to put some common-sense rules in place to keep playing fields level and to ensure that girls do not lose opportunities to play sports." Because apparently the only way to make sure girls have opportunities to play sports is to bar boys from playing them.
/r/MensRights03/09/13 04:16 PM
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Unfortunately, it's a lot more common than it should be. The problem with women's studies, and I think this expands into anything in "identity studies" (women's studies, black studies, jewish studies, etc.) runs the risk of injecting the personal. It's one thing to be a feminist, and teach a women's studies class, but if they are unable to separate their personal identity and politics from the scholarly critique and analysis of gender, then the class becomes less about learning and more about be…
/r/MensRights31/08/13 12:33 AM
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It's a Men's Rights issue because there are too many comments saying " 'Karen' must be a guy. There's no way she could be a woman." God forbid a woman be a despicable human being. The world now assumes that only men are capable of having such awful awful qualities. Society is so desperate to push its bad qualities onto men, that we are the monsters ruining the lives of poor innocent women everywhere. No, women are capable of this bullshit, and we should hold those just as accountable as we would…
/r/MensRights20/08/13 06:35 PM
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