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You keep saying “dysfunctional women” As I said in another reply, I’d say the argument you’re trying to refute is that “women like criminals” and I concede that that is hyperbole and I disagree. Where I feel the need to push back is I think that even though certain behaviors are problematic, women respond well to those behaviors. Much more broadly than just two crazies falling for each other. And it’s fair to criticize that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:38 PM

So how about a less extreme example. Like beauty standards. In the 90s would you have defended the fashion industry? Telling girls that they should suck it up and deal with the fact that everyone thinks the only way to be pretty is to be sick and malnourished? My whole point is you can have compassion and understanding. Nobody is enemies here, you’re not losing ground by saying “I understand” “that must be hard” And if you want to go with an even more extreme example, I don’t berate every Christ…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 04:31 PM

I don’t understand these arguments. If you were in the 1900s would you tell women “stop complaining about the prevailing chauvinistic views of intersexual dynamics! Just don’t date those type of guys”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:20 PM
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Just want to mention that even though im a medium tall guy who works out a lot. I too am afraid of some of these absolute units that I see. Men can be afraid of violence from men too. Especially us little weaklings.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 07:44 PM
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I watched a video yesterday on r/mademesmile where an, overweight, older woman was being really sweet to her husband. Just bigging him up, telling him she appreciated him and how he means so much to her etc. I was like damn I’d marry this bitch, she’s twice my age and three times my weight but damn if someone talk to me like that I’d be smitten. TLDR I disagree. If the person is good and the relationship is good then who cares how old and fat we get.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 05:48 PM
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Ghosting and flaking is unforgivable. I don’t care if I’m not your type. Just tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 09:24 PM
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It’s the same as hot girls luring guys into robberies. We have base desires and biases that people exploit. If you’re retarded enough to fall for it then you get exactly what you deserve
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 06:04 PM

Personally I never developed “game” for this reason. It’s great, I’m very lucky. However it does feel kinda weird knowing I’ve never successfully pursued a girl I liked. It was always just accepting the advances of a girl who chose me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 07:25 PM
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It’s easy to say “everyone can have whatever preferences they want” and “just stay away from those types” But it ignores the context. Could you imagine telling a woman in Saudi Arabia “just don’t date one of those super conservative, religious guys”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 08:47 PM

Nah. I dont want any humiliation though for anyone. I’d say personally I’d be more cool with like swinging. If I’m in the room I want to be involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:48 PM
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I just think you need to learn how to seduce women. I know personally I tend to keep things too professional and too polite. Which is gentlemanly sure, but it’s not exciting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:45 PM

It is frustrating that a group that bashes masculinity also clearly desires it in a lot of ways. I get it. I feel bad for dudes who might be judged for not being “manly enough”. Especially when it’s something stupid like asking where you want to go on a date vs stating where and when. That seems like being polite. Not some indication that you’re a weak loser lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:43 PM

Freedom of speech is not freedom from scrutiny. Anyone who is this hypocritical is an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:15 PM
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Just want to gently push back that you could just be in a shit swamp. Like on balance there are likely less healthy people in the world than you think. That’s a society problem. Not an individual problem. Furthermore. Sometimes positive traits attract bad people. It’s not always two people with the same character flaw being drawn to one another. It’s sometimes positive things that attract bad people to good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 06:57 PM
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Except almost no man has had that experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 05:53 PM

Hmm I’m gonna take the bold stance that it’s wrong. Even if it is just preference. Because at some point the message is so loud and ubiquitous that it does affect people’s expectations. Even if it isn’t explicitly stated that “all women should look this way” it’s implied and it’s normalized. I reckon many women feel hard done by those expectations and the implication that they’re not good enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 05:11 PM

While I understand where you’re coming from, in that everyone can prefer whatever they like, I gotta ask. How do you feel about the depiction of beauty standards in advertising? Is it okay to portray emaciated, sick young girls as the peak of beauty? Is that fair to file under “a matter of preference”?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:48 PM

My whole thing is fairness. You can’t claim to be a modern enlightened person while still dreaming of a yesteryear where you would basically just be a jobless homemaker. If you make a lot of money it should OPEN the dating pool for you (man or woman). That is if you are truly a modern person and not a slave to traditional values and antiquated, arbitrary gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:36 PM

I agree, however it seems to be reductive. I think people are more than their money. Just like I think a woman is more than a sex object and baby factory. Of course nobody wants to date a destitute person. But a humble teacher? Is that guy less of a man than a masters of the universe Wall Street guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:21 PM

this is refreshing to see. Of the successful women I know who are dating, pretty much all of them have arbitrary filters in place in their minds. The filters I feel eliminate men who might be great partners. A CNA who takes care of the elderly, or a guy who is an elementary teacher, are going to be filtered out. Even though these guys have a beautiful purpose and might be absolute angels. Not that rich guys can’t be angels too but I’m saying that it takes more than money to be a good partner. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:08 PM

I think it’s great that women are succeeding in academics and in the workplace. What I wonder is when they will start to value men for their personality over potential provisioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:34 PM
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When you see a girl you like, hit on her. Boldly pursue her and don’t worry about hiding your intentions. In fact, make it super clear you’re not interested in being pals.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 08:26 PM
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I got news for you. The world around Adam will be demonstrating its preference for Caleb his whole life and it might make Adam a little bummed out. How would you console him?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:36 PM
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I think a lot of young men were shamed so hard about their sexuality that many men just castrate themselves socially. I know guys who have female friends, get along great with female coworkers, yet can’t seem to make things sexual or romantic with girls. I wouldn’t call it a personality “flaw” to be sooooo polite and professional you can’t effectively communicate your desire. Especially when the thing you desire is something you were taught never to bring up in polite conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:34 PM

Older women are so much easier to get along with, can be very sexy, and freaky to boot. Just gotta know what everyone is trying to find and be honest about it. If you want kids then even though she’s smoking hot and super interesting then it’s just not a good fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:26 PM
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As an (above average) handsome guy with poor social skills I can tell you that it really is a thing. Sometimes girls just choose you. But learning to sell yourself will make you feel like you have more control over your life and agency in the process. It’s great when you luck out and someone chooses you. However you will have more success if you go out there and boldly pursue girls you actually want to be with. I reckon that’s true no matter what you look like. It also makes you feel like you’re…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:23 PM
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I mean. I’ve been called lots of names for telling a girl I’m not interested. Verbal abuse, reputation destruction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:15 PM
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Everyone says this about young kids and I don’t get it. How is a young boy less mature than a young girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:55 PM
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Yeah but if you’re decently attractive then you’re wasting your life away if you’re not shooting your shot. No sense in being a demure, gentleman when people really don’t big you up for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 04:50 PM
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I 100% agree. That’s the issue. Why is it “unsexy” to speak about it explicitly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:14 PM
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I’ll start caring about these arguments when people grow up and it’s no longer a “mood killer” to just ask or explicitly state your intent. There’s zero way to define these things in the context of flirting which as it is currently is all about plausible deniability.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:51 PM
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I’ve had better luck than with my age peers. I’m impressive to a girl with nothing. I’m nothing to a girl who is my equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 05:44 PM
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I disagree. As a man. If you are struggling everyone tells you you need to work on yourself and join a club. Very few will advocate for boldly pursuing women in pretty much any arena.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:58 PM
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A lot of it comes down to time and place. There’s that saying. “When preparation meets opportunity” or some such.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 02:06 PM
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I’d say the less we all engage in this kind of “hyperbole” the better. It makes it hard to talk about issues. I’m sure women can understand why it might make you feel sad if someone says “men are all evil jerks” especially if you are trying hard not to be an evil jerk. Kinda like I’m sure it hurts when men assume “all women are weak, emotional, and yada yada yada” Let’s all be a little kinder to each other and try to talk about issues. If you attack the argument, and share your lived experience.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:51 PM
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Society’s greatest ill? Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 08:04 PM
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I hate this analogy. It’s not only reductive but I think it misrepresents men. Most men I know would rather drive a Toyota truck or a manual transmission Honda civic. Lamborghinis are expensive headaches. Men only buy them because it’s a peacock feather. By the same token. I think most men would rather be with a soft 6 who is a beautiful soul than a 10 who will make your life hell. IMHO.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 08:02 PM
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Ma’am, you’re the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 07:33 PM
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“In a feeble attempt to justify your porn addiction” Did someone say bad faith? How about take a stab at refuting just one argument rather than going ad hominem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 06:04 PM
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Absolutely. Just trying to facilitate understanding. That’s my whole point. Women do tend to be quite forgiving, they will give you the benefit of the doubt if you’re not hideous or rude. Which is really quite noble of them considering all the criminals and con men out there. Despite all the inflammatory rhetoric online, women don’t truly believe ALL men are violent, psychos. It’s all just pushback against a time when women really did have it rough. Is it a little unfair, sure, but then so is sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:31 PM
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While I kinda agree. As a guy who was raised to be pure milquetoast but is also blessed in a lot of ways women care about, I can honestly say that developing some kind of edge does help. But as you said, being well groomed and in good shape is a great place to start.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 09:10 PM
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Id tell him that there’s nothing ungentlemanly about boldly pursuing a girl you like. I think a lot of great guys basically desexualize themselves and approach dating like they would a job. They are polite and professional. Which does not a Casanova make. Bad boys are not necessarily sexy because they do drugs or ride a motorcycle. It’s the dgaf devil may care attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 08:18 PM
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That’s the issue. When one person has all these rules but then can’t understand your side of the story. I find it’s common for women to be disgusted by their partner watching porn occasionally. But then can’t understand why their man might take issue with their smutty book obsession. What’s fair is fair and when it’s not it’s not. That’s when you GTFO.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 05:23 PM
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Oh for sure lol but my point is that this is one of those weird grey areas that gets overlooked in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:51 PM
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What about the attention and validation people get from strangers? Not having sex but entertaining a plausibly deniable flirt sesh? All I care about is fairness, people can have whatever kind of relationship they like IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 04:09 PM
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I feel like you guys agree. It’s only unethical if it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 02:41 PM
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It’s only unethical when it is. Otherwise, actors sign paperwork which is about as concrete consent as can be. On the other hand in romance novels, it is pretty common to have scenes where consent is less explicit than a signed document. Not saying there’s anything wrong with romance novels either, but written porn is often implied to be more ethical. You can’t approach one with blanket dismissal and then defend similar themes in another.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 02:11 PM
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I like to steal a term from the feminists. Internalized misandry. While I do not truly believe that women will call the cops on you for politely approaching them, I can understand why so many men believe that. They’ve been told their whole lives that men are at their core, evil, violent etc. or at least it’s been demonstrated that that is the prevailing sentiment among women. So yeah I don’t necessarily agree but I think you can forgive guys for thinking that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 01:18 PM
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1 picture of Dorian grey 2 dune 3 Frankenstein 4 lord of the rings series 5 into thin air
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:04 PM
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I feel like you can read the room if you have defeated your internalized misandry. If there wasn’t a whole bunch of conflicting advice and misandry out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:44 PM
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Telling a man he’s nothing without a 6 figure salary is toxic and creates more problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:03 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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