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AggravatingTartlet/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/19 12:19 AM
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So, if I meet a guy and we both start considering a committed relationship and I think he's the absolute bees knees, and all he asks is that we wait a couple of months (or whatever) for intimacy because he wants us to be sure ....... ..... and I then jeopardise that for the sake of sex with some random? Ehhhhh, not going to happen. I'd wait for the thing that's worth it. (This scenario happened with my husband, except we both wanted to wait -- mostly me. I already had kids, and we both wanted to…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 11:03 PM
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Yeah, fair. We're not going to want a guy who doesn't want us.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 10:44 PM
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Women's sexual arousal is mostly independent of men. It just happens, as a physical thing. It would happen if the woman lived alone on an island. Who she wants to have sex with depends on her outlook on life. It could be just who she's visually attracted to or it could be just one person, within a committed relationship. Being desired helps a lot with your self-confidence of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 03:27 PM
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given the choice, would you rather be emotionally and physically cheated on? Or just physically cheated on? Obviously, as a woman, I'd rather be emotionally cheated on than physically cheated on. Emotional cheating could have had an accidental start. Physical cheating is never ever accidental -- it's always a decision, and means I'd immediately end the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 03:20 AM
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The person said that when men cheat/are promiscuous, men see that as natural and not something to hate or control, but when women do it, it's seen as something to hate, control & eradicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 03:18 AM
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NO MATTER WHAT. Whoa now, that includes a huge range of things. I can never agree with that. If I had to stick with my first marriage, I honestly believe he'd have killed me and I wouldn't be here having this conversation. It was coming very close to that happening, including him deliberately crashing a car I was in. Sometimes, you have to leave.
/r/AntiFeminists15/12/22 10:47 PM
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As you noted, being more mature when you elect to marry, and having some modicum of a decent income, help greatly! I agree. This is key. The stats say that people with college/university degrees who marry around age 30 have the longest lasting marriages. Which I'd guess is an effect of their maturity, income base and having things in common. This is anecdotal, but I also know of many couples where the guy is in a trade (builder, plumber etc) and the woman has a degree -- and they are doing well …
/r/AntiFeminists15/12/22 08:34 PM
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I think you just know yourself better when you're a few years older, which is why the second one might be easier. I agree it's not a good idea to break and run at the first sign of trouble. I'm just saying that marriage isn't supposed to be hard or a lot of work. If it is, it could be due to one or both people with serious issues that they'd keep hidden in the first year or two. Unless those issues are resolved, the marriage will never be healthy.
/r/AntiFeminists14/12/22 09:11 PM
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Running a family and household is a lot of work. Marriage shouldn't be. If it is, something is wrong.
/r/AntiFeminists13/12/22 11:22 PM
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I can absolutely believe that--and that would tie into the society in which men and women find themslves. But my point is that it's not hard-wired. It's not "nature". We are adaptable, self-aware human beings. We will be totally different in different environments.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:29 AM
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It's not taboo to talk about it at all. Feel free. There are biological inclinations, but not a "nature". Humans beings evolved to a place where we are people first and genders second. Whereas animals act according to the strict gender roles of their species, humans act/react according to the society they find themselves in. If a woman found herself born in a tribe of female warriors, she'll become a warrior. If a man found himself born in a peaceful tribe in which men and women are equals, that…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 11:19 PM
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fact and statistics Can be skewed by faulty studies. The "results" do not bear out what is actually happening in society or/and the researchers are asking the wrong questions. Another easy explanation for the sex toys is that they are bought by younger women Young women don't make up 82% of women. But I'd agree they are the bigger buyers. Which makes sense because there is far less stigma about women enjoying sex in the younger generations than the older. or that women struggle to orgasm and buy…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 11:01 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:52 PM
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You don't believe the human female has a nature? Fuck no. There are a set of behaviours that women are more likely to display than men (due to societal pressures and some degree of evolution), but there is no "female nature". Women are far too varied. It's only "female nature" if you try to ascribe any behaviour from a woman to something "typically female". Like, a man can be angry and still be thought of as powerful and in control of his emotions. But the exact same anger in a woman will be ter…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:45 PM
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It's just common sense. Why would women buy and use toys in such massive numbers if their desire is so low? There would barely be a toy industry for women at all. Yet, at least 82% of American women own at least one sex toy. So the true story must be that most women have spontaneous desire. If you experience something different as a woman, then things might seem different to you. I know there was a whacky study done by some woman in the past that put it at 15%. But the stats on sales of toys do …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:29 PM
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female nature lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 09:02 PM
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Correct, 75% of men have a spontaneous desire vs only 15% of women do False. 75%+ women have spontaneous desire. If it was just 15%, hardly any women would masturbate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 08:35 PM
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Women do not enjoy vaginal stimulation Incorrect. Women are different. Most feel a lot, some feel little.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:45 AM
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But for most women, women's more reactive sexuality and hypergamy complicate matters, and they'd rather just sleep with a man their age if they can find him attractive. Women don't have "reactive sexuality". That's a complete myth. And hypergamy is only a product of the society a woman finds herself in. It's not hard-wired. If it was, things wouldn't be changing so rapidly since women began earning their own money in the 60s. lus, his immaturity compared to hers often means she cannot really loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:25 AM
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An older man receives a completely different reaction from young women from poorer developing countries. Such women are still not physically attracted to much older men just because the woman is poor. It's out of necessity. Speaking in general. There are always exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:23 AM
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It's instant.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:11 AM
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Condoms have up to a 10% failure rate within first year of use It's 3%, If men use them properly, that is. It's not the condoms that are failing--it's men failing to use them consistently.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 04:01 AM
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After all many women end up settling once they don’t find the “perfect” guy. Sigh. If you are "settling" for someone, your desire for him isn't going to be any higher at the start of the relationship than it will be later on. Things were already damp from the start. ​ And i did specify when women find “the right guy” they tend to want to have more sex with him. More than they did before meeting him? Maybe. Maybe not. Women's sex drive is independent of the man they are with. But the desire she h…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 12:24 AM
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I've had a high drive my whole life. What I've found to be difficult is that the man expects that sex won't be as frequent after the first few months, but you take a while to catch on that he's reached the stage where he's happy with less sex. Normally, people's sex drives dampen after a while in a relationship. Mine just goes from wanting it all day long when single/in a new relationship to just wanting it twice a day in a long-term relationship. There is almost never a time when he wants it th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 04:19 AM
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What a silly claim. Women's sex drives can be naturally very high due to natural high levels of hormones - and I don't just mean testosterone. Women's sex drives also depend upon other, female-specific hormones. I've had a high drive my whole life. It's just natural for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 04:04 AM
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I think there is a misconception in the male female sex drive discussion. I’ve observed that women have higher sex drive within the confines of a relationship ONCE shes found the “right guy” where as men have a higher general sex drive and its omni-directional. What the hey? How have you been observing people's intimate sex lives? You are also incorrect. Women, like men, have far higher sex drives when single than when in relationships. Sex drive usually dampens down for both sexes once in a com…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 03:56 AM
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No bait. I've experienced it. I've seen female friends and family members experience it. I see women express this a lot online. The man pays a lot of attention to the woman when they're dating - lots of time together. Just hanging out like they are two people who intensely enjoy each other's company. Then after they marry or move in together, he spends more time with his friends or his hobbies. Maybe he starts spending all his free time playing video games. Maybe he starts drinking too much or s…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 02:01 AM
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Sadly no way to vet for that. That's what men want too. I failed in my vetting personally for that too It's a very hard thing to vet for. People - both men and women - can either pretend to be what they're not, or just change rapidly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 01:54 AM
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I don't think you know the meaning of the words "technically" or "fault".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 01:53 AM
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She wants a top guy to behave for her like a simp and a slave, while she is a plain woman with nothing of interest to offer. I'd say you're right. That's the fantasy that draws readers to those books.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 10:10 PM
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All women want is a bad boy Not really. A bad boy might be fun for a bit. But he's also embarrassing to bring around family and friends, and he'll only get more embarrassing as the years go on. What most women want is a happy, stable guy who doesn't change for the worse after marriage/after moving in together.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 10:07 PM
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What? No. Women want a man who will stay the same as when she met him. Too many men let everything go as soon as they're in a relationship, or as soon as the ring is on the finger. And then the relationship falls apart. I think this is because men are taught to "fake it" to get a woman. They pretend to like what she likes, pretend to like her friends, pretend to be empathetic & communicative. Then it all fizzles out when the guy goes back to who he was before.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 10:01 PM
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The leading cause of non-fatal injury to women worldwide is intimate-partner violence - such as broken bones. Imagine the leading cause of non-fatal injury to men coming from their wives and girlfriends. You can't imagine it. Because you don't have to. Because you don't live in the same kind of world that women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 09:53 PM
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Women 'become' just as much as do men. Everyone grows and changes and figures things out. Anyone saying women just 'are' does not understand the first thing about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 09:24 PM
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I can't follow. I was talking about an older person taking up the years of a very young person - years in which they should be growing & discovering & figuring out who they are. But, I'll reply to your comment. Women who marry under age 25 are the most likely of all to divorce. Which is most probably because they have changed so much over the course of the relationship that the relationship no longer aligns with who they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 09:20 PM
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I dated a 21 year old at 35. How's that relationship going now?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 10:55 PM
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I said that as women can increasingly pay their own way, they'll increasingly choose youth and looks over status. Which is pure biology and the innate desire for healthy babies. Science backs me up on this: https://paa2008.princeton.edu/papers/80695 "The discrepancy between the ages of husbands and wives in the U.S. has fallen continuously throughout the twentieth century: husbands were on average nearly five years older than their wives in 1900, but were just over two years older in 2000. This …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 10:47 PM
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What I said was - a woman who is into sleeping around with celebrities will go for a range of celebrities. Because it is the celebrity status she is after - not the guy himself. And yes, women can be attracted to a wide range of men. I looked up Clooney. Yeah, he was cute in his 20s and 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 10:43 PM
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Lol. But you’re not right and we already know why. Damn. I'm correct. https://paa2008.princeton.edu/papers/80695 "The discrepancy between the ages of husbands and wives in the U.S. has fallen continuously throughout the twentieth century: husbands were on average nearly five years older than their wives in 1900, but were just over two years older in 2000. This pattern was noted more than twenty years ago and has been associated with increasing female employment and rising levels of education." I…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 10:37 PM
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I'm talking about relationships - taking up years of a young person's life in a relationship. It can be predatory on the part of the much older person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 10:06 PM
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I clearly said "the teenage Harry Styles". If you don't see flack given to Madonna, you're not reading the same things I am. Here's some of her response to that criticism: https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1028282.shtml Generally, middle-aged women don't go for men under 25 for casual/serious relationships (even though many of them can if they want to). So, they're not going to get as much flack as middle-aged men who go for women aged under 25. Here's a very short article in which JLo says she…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:21 AM
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It's fine to have preferences. We're all a product of many things - genetics, experiences etc. Men's preferences are not fetishes. Unless their preference is for feet or inanimate objects etc etc. A preference for youth is not a fetish. But if the preference of a middle-aged man is for 18-20 year olds, it's plain to see their preference is for the youngest girl they can get that is still legal - and they would go younger if they could. Yes, this is predatory. This behaviour has no benefit for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 09:08 PM
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Ummmm.... it's easy to see the reaction people have to all the very young men that Madonna dates. You'll see women being pretty vocal on this. Also, women have had a negative reaction to women aged 30+ dating the teenage Harry Styles. I don't think it's an issue if the younger person is 25+. Because they've had some years to mature and to understand what they're doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 08:54 PM
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The fuck? So the blonde tall rich Chad with a family history of cancer is magically “healthier” than the 5’4 Indian janitor gym rat who may live to be 100 is he? Sigh. In human history, we largely did not have the ability to know who had cancer or any other such hidden disease. All we had were visual cues. Why are you framing a 5'4 Indian guy as being unattractive? In history, if a man like him looked healthy, he would have been attractive. ​ Women select for looks, status and provider traits. P…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 06:58 AM
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Womens attraction cues are not the same as mens. Women's raw attraction cues are 1. physical and 2. personality/character. Women's relationship wants include that the guy have a good job etc. I didn't say men and women have the exact same attraction cues. It can't be the exact same. Women carry and birth babies. That is attractive in itself. ​ Women do demand attractive men, but the notion of “youth = beauty” does not work the same way. As I said above, I didn't say it did. What I said was that …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 06:44 AM
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Humans aren’t some living eugenics experiment Er, we survived all this time by making healthy babies. That's just biology. All the provisioning in the world wouldn't have saved a very ill baby (before the past fifty years or so). Our wiring is about reproduction. It's the truth underlying everything. Why are men and women attracted to beautiful, youthful people of the opposite sex? Because it's a visual cue to good health and fertility. Yes, there are other factors, but at its most raw basics, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 06:19 AM
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Fear is why they shame it. They shame 40+ women going after 18-20 year old men just as hard. No one wants to see it. People want to see youth with youth. Because it means healthier babies. It's the way humans are wired.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 03:46 AM
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Then please, how in the ever loving fuck does shaming age gaps make any sense in that context? The older the man, the unhealthier the offspring (in general). Women also look for youth & beauty in men - it's hard-wired. Because youth and beauty means healthier babies. A woman therefore has historically wanted the man closest as possible to her own age who can support the family when she is raising the kids. Those competing pressures are a tell for what women do and want - women want youth and hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 03:42 AM
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Women aren’t out there looking for frail dudes that look like they’d run from a fight. Such dudes can still be toxic or dangerous. Such as Elliot Rodger. All they need is a gun.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 03:37 AM
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Women would fuck the weakest chess club geeks the if they really wanted want to avoid “mUh physical power imbalance” Humans go for "health" above all else in reproduction. It's hard wired. It's why we like symmetry in faces and bodies, unblemished skin, good teeth, features that signify the other person is of the opposite sex etc. If women all chose the weakling they could push over (because he was that ill) then the human species wouldn't last very long. ("The weakest chess club geeks" could li…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 03:33 AM
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Youth & beauty: Women also like youth & beauty in men. Source: the covers of romance books in the amazon store. The men are almost always young (approx. 25-30) and, well, beautiful. The covers do not show older men, hardly ever. This is is what women like & fantasise about. Height: Most men want women smaller than themselves. It makes them feel more manly. Most men are taller than most women - therefore, it's a characteristic of male and female humans. Attraction is on a wide spectrum - but ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 03:22 AM
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I agree with a lot of your post. It's just that "all the time" phrase that's tripping me up. Because in general, it's not what's happening. And the effects of degraded sperm are amplified if the woman's eggs are not healthy enough to try to repair the damaged genetic material in the man's sperm. On the other hand, healthy older men and healthy older women who have babies contribute toward the human race living to older and older ages. So, there is an advantage there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 11:04 PM
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And I will tell you what your saying is not true It's not my opinion. I'm just going by the stats ​ College Graduates Marry Other College Graduates Most of the Time https://www.theatlantic.com/sexes/archive/2013/04/college-graduates-marry-other-college-graduates-most-of-the-time/274654/ "The most educated women are the most likely to be married" https://www.brookings.edu/blog/social-mobility-memos/2016/08/19/the-most-educated-women-are-the-most-likely-to-be-married/ " Research has consistently f…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:58 PM
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Yes, true it's partly because of who they associate with. But... they can choose to find whoever they want on online dating. No one forces you to marry in certain circles. These men want college educated women for a number of reasons. Paying for a comfortable lifestyle is hard, paying for good schools for your kids is hard etc. So, two good incomes allows a couple to build a good life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 06:49 AM
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It's fine and legal. But if you're 40 or older, it's weird as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 06:45 AM
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Again, men providing a little sperm is nothing compared to women's part in it. Cannot be compared. Everything women do, from their eggs trying to repair any damage in men's sperm to birthing a baby - is completely different to what men do. No, you do not see men over 50 with babies all the time. You're either lying or misjudging people's ages. You might think men over 40 are actually over 50. About 9 percent of all newborns in the United States now have dads older than 40, and almost 1 percent h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 06:09 AM
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Women doing the same would be a news story Men don't do anything near what women do - grow and birth babies. It's a huge impact on a body. Of course women's bodies need an end to this. It would be a news story indeed if a man grew or birthed a baby. The two things are not comparable. but the absolute risk of infertility and genetic defects remain minimal. And both can be mitigated with medical help, fertility aid and screening. No, it's large. And if the effects need to be mitigated with medical…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 11:22 PM
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I'd rather look at stats and studies. The stats say that men's sperm degrades a significant amount by their late 30s. A small percentage of men will be fertile and able at age 50 or older.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 09:47 PM
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The stats say that college-educated men marry college-educated women - both of them around age 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 09:45 PM
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Men care more than you think. Most college-educated men want a college-educated woman, and want her to be able to help them build up assets, buy a house etc. It's a very, very old-fashioned view that men don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 09:23 PM
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It's not neglible. There are real stats and real studies proving the massive effect that age has on a man's ability to get a woman pregnant. The difference between early thirties and late thirties for a man is large in terms of sperm quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 09:19 PM
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Its always been a norm in the entire history of our species for older men to reproduce with younger women. Hardly. It would have been the norm for healthy young men to reproduce with healthy young women. It was only after the beginning of crop production that inequality began appearing. ​ It's 50 Nope. It's 35. For women aged 19 to 26, they had a 50% chance of getting pregnant on their own fertile day. Women age 35 to 39 had only a 29% chance. However, what’s most interesting here is the impact …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 06:28 AM
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You can agree as a feminist but you can't disagree with science. Men's sperm degrades as they age past 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 06:24 AM
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Women don't prefer older men at all. It's just that societal constraints have led to women needing resources/money and not being able to work to obtain those things. Hence - going for older men. But things are changing rapidly. Women no longer need that, and the age gap is getting smaller and smaller (and in some cases, the woman is pairing up with younger men). Yes, men are attracted to women in their 20s. As are women most attracted to men in their 20s. It's nature. Everyone's looking for the …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 06:22 AM
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And when women do it (just like when men do it) it's creepy. The 20 yr old has an undeveloped brain. They often don't make good decisions, and you can easily cause them harm by manipulating them into a relationship - a relationship they might look back on with horror.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 06:17 AM
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The post you responded to talked about men "leching onto" a young person. Nope, looking at a 20 year old in a swimsuit is natural. Women also check out 20 year old men at the beach. I meant trying to manipulate someone that age into a relationship when you are 50. But looking is different. Sorry I got your post wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 06:15 AM
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Nah, women earn their value and always have. A woman who knows nothing or wants to laze around all day is dangerous and useless as a mother. These days, if a woman doesn't have a good job, few men want to marry her. In the old days of the industrial age and before, if she wasn't a hard worker, she was useless. Men's sperm starts to degrade from age 30 - 35 on. A young woman wants a healthy young man to have babies with. When it comes to healthy babies, his greatest value is in his age (20s is be…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 04:57 AM
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It's not pedo territory but it's still creepy. A 20 year old is like a child to a 50 year old. Her or his maturity is undeveloped (brains don't even finish developing until age 25) and they have little experience of the world. It's creep central. And yep, I think of it exactly the same way whether it's a middle aged man or woman creeping on a youngster.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 04:50 AM
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Most men don't hate it. Just these red pill weirdos.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 04:44 AM
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When it comes to myths - neither are dribbly penises, bad bladders, enlarged prostates, erectile dysfunction, sperm mutations and slow sperm myths. Which is why men are best off having babies before age 35, but at least before age 45.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 04:41 AM
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Do you live in the world? Serious question.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 04:37 AM
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If men want healthy children, they'll have kids before age 40. 45 at the very latest. Best before age 35 - else most of them suffer sperm deterioration. The wall for men and women, when it comes to babies - is very, very similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 04:36 AM
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Smaller but growing rapidly. As I said, people are leaving old ideas behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 04:28 AM
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The female equivalent is having sex with a guy but not committing. If you like him but as a friend, you don't have sex because you value him too highly and don't want to end up hurting him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:30 AM
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Penis size is last on the list of wants. Good looking and good personality come first, above all else. I would not turn someone down based on penis size because sex is only something you do once or twice a day and it lasts generally ten minutes or less. You'd just have to get creative to overcome the penis thing. The rest of the day (the other 16 or so hours I'm awake), if he's good looking and has a good personality, I want to have sex with him and enjoy being with him or thinking about him. If…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:27 AM
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No problem with age gaps. I know lots of women who are with men who are 3 to 10 years younger. It's fine for men to be younger than the woman. It's 2021 and time to leave the stodgy old ways well behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:19 AM
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Thanks for the explanation. I think the thing is that women don't actually need anything to be turned on. It's a natural bodily function. it just happens. For most women, it's cyclical, depending on times of the month. That's what women report - feeling turned on during certain times of the month. And then if a good looking guy is in front of her at those times, then yes, she can feel very sexual towards him - whereas she won't feel that way about men who do not attract her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/20 05:56 AM
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Women don't have a primal reaction to visual cues the way you've described. Female sexuality is more about how the man makes HER feel in relation to him. What? I'd say most women respond primally to visual cues when it comes to men. Women commonly talk about how a man LOOKS unless she knows him intimately. I have never heard a woman speak about how a man who is not her boyfriend/partner makes her FEEL. Women are most attracted to good looking men. It's a subliminal reaction when she sees a man w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 04:47 AM
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scientific or anthropological studies The studies are useless if they just say X should be right because of Y. I go by facts not theories. This is the fact: men are increasingly benefitting from marrying "up". Proof: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/08/170828105433.htm The women on this sub are a tiny sample. The men on this sub are a tiny sample who are not your usual male either. Hypergamous branch swinging, or perhaps dual mating strategy, not polyandry. If that is true, then porn i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 04:38 AM
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In general, women cheat either because their current partner has declined in their mind, or because they’ve found a better potential partner. No, they don't. Some women just like cheating. For fun or for the thrills or for the sake of variety. It’s not in the nature of women to be polyandrous because of their concern for their offspring’s welfare. No, it is their nature. Women just push it down for the sake of the children and family life. When women locate a suitable partner, they are wired to …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 11:41 AM
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This is why men are far less shallow than women. Most men won’t look down on a woman negatively if she doesn’t have a car or a job, comes from a broken home, doesn’t have a college degree, is rich or poor, is an airhead or a genius, etc. The more attractive the man, the more he cares about those things. Attractive men with college degree seek attractive women with college degrees from stable homes and with good jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 07:34 AM
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Men mostly cheat because of polygynous impulses that are part of their nature, though. They don't usually cheat because they are unsatisfied with the woman like how women cheat on men. Women are as polygamous as men are. They don't need to be unhappy in a relationship to cheat. Unhappiness isn't the indicator. The indicator is the person themselves and their moral code. An unhappy woman with a strict moral code is far more likely to divorce her husband than cheat. However, all women are polygamo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 07:27 AM
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Usually, rich people get house cleaners. And they want everything immaculately cleaned.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 07:19 AM
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Reds are basically the opposite. They see the world as a functioning machine made up of parts and sub-parts that scale down or up almost infinitesimally. People who are red prefer a more conscious, "5 senses" approach to the world and lean more toward science and observation to make sense of the world around them. They don't necessarily believe in feelings as a guide because there's no way to measure those feelings and whether or not they'll point to/ lead to the truth. I see the red pill as the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 02:55 AM
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This is exactly why, as a blue pill woman, it's impossible to debate here. The red pill pill mindset is based on emotions not reason. You can't debate emotions. It's impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 02:53 AM
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I'm a blue pill woman. I've never been on FDS. I'm not here anymore because I can't stand it anymore. I got tired of reading the hatred against women day after day after day. Most people here aren't here to learn and debate. They're here to rage their anger against women. The red pill is just a weird little corner of the internet. They're based on rage not reason. Am tired of hearing about alpha males and beta buxes and hypergamy. Blah. Some people whose lives didn't go the way they hoped try to…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 02:47 AM
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Men don’t care about housework. Men are quite happy living in a house that’s a bit dirty. Untrue. The truth is that men who claim this are happiest living in a clean house as long as they don't have to clean it. Answer me this?: do rich single men live in filth? The answer is "no". They pay for people to come in and clean. And why do they do that? Because they prefer living in a clean house, that's why.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 02:27 AM
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Some men who are rapists and murderers target women who are 'party girls' or sex workers in the hope of getting away with their crimes. They target women who are less likely to be believed or less likely to be missed. You mention a "clear and obvious difference" between a virgin catholic girl and a woman who's had a lot of sex. The only difference is the amount of sex they've had. The virgin Catholic girl might be lying to save her reputation. Men have gone to jail for decades due to this in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 02:04 AM
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They are already making a tremendous sacrifice by agreeing to fuck the same aging, boring face day in and day out indefinitely In previous eras, that tremendous sacrifice... Here's the thing. Women make exactly the same sacrifice. Are our husbands going to turn a blind eye if we want to run out and bang a Chad when we're bored?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 05:57 AM
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she has to take on a maternal role towards him, which is an absolute libido/attraction killer. Eek, yes. That describes it well. You don't want to feel like your guy's mother. If he can't clean up, he's like a child who needs his bottom spanked. And that's not going to lead anywhere good.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 05:54 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 05:50 AM
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I didn't say you should change your views. I said you didn't give me space to challenge your views. I've seen all kinds of 'facts' about suffragettes and racism. Of course, some within their ranks would have been racist. But it's not what most of them were about and it's not how feminism started. You said: feminism is a white peopleism. It was started as suffragettes so that white women could counter the black vote, This is untrue and not a fact. Almost all women's rights movements at the time s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 05:41 AM
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'words bp uses' sounds kind of fanciful. It's also wrong to level that at me when I didn't use those words or any such thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 05:28 AM
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Is that a joke? If so, I missed the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 02:56 AM
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Okay, shame. It would maybe give a layer to rp that I'm missing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 02:55 AM
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You are using words that I didn't. I said it is sexist. Black women themselves think it is sexist, and I support them in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 02:54 AM
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Ok, seems like you're not willing to listen to something that challenges your views. Buying out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 02:53 AM
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I don't know - all I know is that I see that theme over and over again here and in the rp forum (when I used to look at it).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 02:50 AM
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Having said that, I cannot accept the BP position that anyone half-decent will find dating easy, I'm pretty sure most BP will say dating is hard and finding someone compatible is hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:59 AM
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RPW are a bunch of hypocrites who are reaping the fruits of feminism while shitting on feminism. I cannot understand why they call themselves 'red pill'. Makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:56 AM
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However, feminism is a white peopleism. It was started as suffragettes so that white women could counter the black vote, You are dead wrong. 100% wrong. The suffragettes joined a movement that was trying to gain black people the vote. That is how they started. The suffragettes also wanted the vote for women, both black and white women. What the suffragettes were disappointed by (black and white) was the fact that black men were given the vote but not women (black or white women) which was blatan…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:12 AM
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BPers who were unaware and inadvertently being racist. It's not racist to dislike the word 'females'. It's black comedians who were being sexist against women. Everything from black culture is not automatically 'good' and shielded from criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:08 AM
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I am not white enough to be blue pill Can you make an OP on this? I'd like to know what you mean and know what other people think of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:06 AM
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If you're purple, why the red banner?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:04 AM
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Most men have a need to protect their family, which is why I'm eyeing a few PDW 9mm guns and also why I can't get any of them during a pandemic; all sold out. You want a gun only because of the society you live in. Men in countries where guns aren't common largely don't want guns. Most men also don't and can't protect their families, because they are not with their families until night-time. Yes, they feel protective towards their wives and children, as do women feel protective towards their hus…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:02 AM
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Sex at Dusk is bunk, written as if the author was afraid it meant women's choices and ability to say no to sex was at risk. http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ltDjL6fdHscJ:files.aiscience.org/journal/article/pdf/70320316.pdf+&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 12:55 AM
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For the purposes of getting women into bed so easily you can thank feminism. Its all about women not being judged. A common fantasy in this sub seems to be getting feminists into bed. As if you're getting one back at them or something. It's amusing, if nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 12:53 AM
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As per your OP: What is 'being direct' mean? Straight out asking for sex? That will only work if the woman went out intending to have sex that night. Which means you are just the fly walking into the spider's web. 'Teasing' is just time-honored teasing and flirting. RP didn't invent it. Both men and women have always done it. What does being 'emotionally unavailable' mean? Hardly any people who have sex on the first night they meet are going to be emotionally available to each other. It doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 12:50 AM
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You have this backwards. The experiences are simply that... experiences. Categorizing them and understanding them if left alone, most women would draw their own conclusions over time and they would not all be the same. Of course! Hence, not all women are feminists. the indoctrination allows girls to put experiences into this imaginary framework of "patriarchy" and such, and then begin to see all interactions through this lens. I'm afraid this falls down because many women throughout history have…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 11:57 PM
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Don’t want to get pregnant? Keep your legs closed. Don’t want to get raped? Don’t wear that. I didn't say don't have sex. I said 'protect yourself during sex'. Your rape analogy doesn't work. Simply because women cannot prevent rape at the point it is about to happen. They can't throw up a shield and hey presto, no rape. But men can throw on a shield (condom) without a woman being able to prevent him from doing so. That’s the argument you’re using here and I seriously doubt you would apply that …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 11:37 PM
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I understand what you're saying. And I agree that it's very hard for the man. What I'm saying is that abortion is not always a viable choice for a woman, therefore, it can't always be called a choice. a uterus is part of a woman's body and therefore no one else has any ownership over what is inside the uterus Testicles are part of a man's body and therefore else has any ownership over what is inside the testicles If a baby is born, it belongs to both the mother and the father What the man is pay…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 11:32 PM
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Well, sure. Handguns aren't biologically wired, but most men are wired to be aggressive and to fight. But what is 'most men'? Is it true that it's circumstance, not wiring that produces aggression? We know there are tribes that in which men are peaceful and have been peaceful for as long as records and tribal knowledge goes back. Does that mean most men are not aggressive but are in fact forced into aggression by the society and circumstance they find themselves in? Women will also become aggres…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 11:04 PM
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Well, if you try to improve you're called a terror threat if you join a support group. Blatant sexism. Some of those groups are producing threats and actively supporting men who kill others. Driving vans into people and shooting 'hot girls' in the name of a support group will tend to get you that rep. Sexist? If FDS starts producing women who run down groups of men in cars and shooting them, you will see exactly the same reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 08:42 AM
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I got the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 08:37 AM
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hahahahaha yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 08:34 AM
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Gotta be a Brad Pitt in these 10,000 messages SOMEWHERE Who wants Brad Pitt?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 03:58 AM
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Would you consider yourself to be a woman like this? No, I'm not. I'm extremely wary about men and sex. I'm glad to be in a long term relationship in which I don't even have to think about that kind of thing. It's not until they are quite a bit older that the indoctrination begins to really set in. It's not indocrination. It stems from personal experience. You watch the way your dad talks to your mom. You watch how your uncle treats your aunt. And on and on. And you're told you can be anything. …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 12:46 AM
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I don't think I've ever met a woman whose standards are "anything withing striking distance"... unless I mistake that meaning. I just meant that women who are very sex positive will generally have a lot of sex and will be a lot less discriminatory about who they have sex with. If a man looks okay to them, and is within their range, then he could be a yes. Cobra, I believe you that you have short term relationships. And I believe your personal experience. But, there is something very screwy about…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 10:58 PM
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You know what the difference is? You don't even notice it when men do this to each other , but when it happens to you you internalize it and take it very personally. It's been proven that men do this way more to women than men. I don't even need to give my personal account. What world are you living in where this is anyway ok? If any woman was told they were incapable because they have to pick up children their manager would be fired immediately and it would be a national news story. It's there.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 10:43 PM
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We shouldn't even be discussing about children. We need to discuss children if someone says that men treat women better/differently than men. Because children are the reason for that. I never said that, u/VariationBusiness did. I'm not sure what you mean. You might be getting me mixed up with someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 05:28 AM
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hahahahahahahaha You are funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 04:54 AM
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It's all the same thing. People wanting diversity. Silly to give different reasons. Unless the women all leave when they cheat and go live with the other monkey male, then they are hardly being hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 04:52 AM
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Sounds like you might make some concessions. You might or might not also discriminate against women, without ever realizing it. But even if you don't, lots of workplaces do. Have you ever worked in a male dominated office compared to a female dominated office? Yep. They talk over the top of women. Dismiss their ideas. Talk to them in condescending tones. Men get promoted over women who are better at the job. I didn't see much of men interrupting each other - I really only saw them doing that to …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 04:47 AM
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That's not one specific answer. It encompasses everything. We are wired to protect children at all costs. Also favoritism towards young girls over boys exists China? India?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 04:34 AM
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So if we all treated everyone like an individuals, women would think it's the most oppressive patriarchy that ever existed compared to how they're currently treated because they would get no preferential treatment or kindness. Women don't get preferential treatment or kindness from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 04:19 AM
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Men also care more for women than they do for men I don't think this is true at all. Men care for children. Just like women do. Just because a woman is the one to get pregnant and raise babies doesn't mean men are caring for her specifically. All of us are caring for the babies/children. Because the human race dies without them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 04:18 AM
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But what are those behaviors? On reddit, we have the 'red pill' group of a few years, which claims that relationships between men and women can only work if one is dominant, almost always the man. And they claim this is instinctive behavior of men and women. And yet, we have tribes that survived over thousands of years, which were egalitarian. This was possible because, above all, they were – and still are – “fiercely egalitarian” . They could not abide inequality or showing off, and had no form…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 04:13 AM
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Yes, exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 03:54 AM
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fair enough. You can have your opinion. Most people wouldn't agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 02:10 AM
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If men being in charge, a la patriarchy, is bad, and the assumption that if women would be in charge, it would be "not bad", which is the goal of feminism No, you misunderstand. Women are as bad as men, and therefore, we should never have a society that is all run by women. Because power corrupts. That is NOT the goal of feminism. Feminism wants equality between the sexes and diversity of those in power, so that everyone is represented. Because men are, by default, bad, otherwise, why would they…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 12:06 AM
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I didn't remember your username - it's a hard one to remember! I do try to be understanding of issues that men face. But I can't be understanding of trp. Let me ask you this? Would YOU be understanding of a sub that had "science" that said that men didn't mature mentally past the age of puberty, had leaders that called men sub-human and all the other kind of bile that trp spews? No, you wouldn't. I understand why some men flock to rp. But the ones who do not have aspergers or something like that…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 12:00 AM
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It was a gaggle of 3s and 4s feeling entitled to long-term, completely one-sided relationships with male 8s and 9s. Actually, you can't call them 3s and 4s. There was a thread in recent months in which everyone posted photos of themselves. Many of those women were said by everyone to be very pretty - and they were. And you have zero proof they thought they were entitled to male 8s and 9s.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 11:37 PM
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Examples of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 11:34 PM
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What striking out? TRP just informs guys about what women actually want and respond to. Calling women children, for one thing. Your leaders calling single mothers sub-human. That is striking out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 11:34 PM
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It's interesting you say that, because if you parse through it it just means man hating. Say what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 11:33 PM
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I think we're having a huge period of adjustment. Women's rights are still very new. It was only 100 years ago that women barely had any. Things are bound to swing wildly. But we can and should keep working towards a world where everyone can win.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 11:32 PM
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the majority of women I sleep with are feminists of varying degrees. In my experience they tend to be easier than the general female population and much more sex positive as well. If you know they are feminists, they are most probably much more extreme than your usual feminist. Because it just doesn't come up in conversation, unless you talk a lot over weeks or months. Also, if we're just talking about sex, then that's a different animal. Women are very sex positive will use any male that is wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 11:30 PM
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Yes, of course. I do care about the well being of men in this world. And I do love men as human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 10:15 PM
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Eh, you sound like someone deep in a cult. I can't even begin to debate someone like that. "Metaphorical tools" - omg, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 03:33 AM
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Ok, so the LS stuff is like MGTOW. Fair enough. Patriarchy exists because most of the people in power around the world - world leaders, presidents, CEOs etc are men. If those people were mostly women, you'd be living in a matriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 03:31 AM
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Literally none of what you listed is the mans problem lmao. I didn't say it was men's probelm. I said that abortion is not always an option for women. Therefore, that IS men's problem. religious women who can't abort but can still have premarital sex Sex is just two bodies coming together. While, for some religious people and others, abortion involves a human being. You cannot compare the two.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 03:28 AM
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you mean science that disproves most of the BP/feminist narrative 'Science' that 'proves' that women are children is the stuff of whiny men with nothing better to do with their time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 03:26 AM
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FDS didn’t start as a result of abuse from men. Of course it did. Lots of the women there are from here (PPD). They often spoke about being tired of the behavior of men they dated.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 03:24 AM
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Nope. This is akin to saying that abusers love you and just want the best for you. They might, but they also fucking smack you. A feminist is anyone who belleves women are human beings with the rights of a human being. Feminism has turned evil, has been evil for a long time now, and it's time to call bullshit on the "no true scotsmen" apologies for it. It's not a movement anymore, it's a way of thinking. Yes, there are people within it who are shitty human beings. But it's like saying you can't …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 01:04 AM
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Don't like RP? Stop women from abusing men like this. I don't really care about rp or the fact that it exists. RP developed in response to a widespread, one might say even pandemic level of exactly that behavior described in the comment. But that is precisely what I was saying. RP began in reaction to perceived abuse from women. Just as FDS started as perceived abuse from men. When there is an action, there is always a reaction - or pushback, if you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 12:59 AM
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Patriarchy isn't a term invented by feminists. I don't know what lesbian separatism is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 12:54 AM
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There is a lot of bashing on both sides. I understand men feeling bashed. There is a lot of negative stuff about men in the news every day. But I can't see how women hate men. We marry and live with men, watch movies made by men, have favorite male comedians and actors, love the geek men on Big Bang Theory, love our sons, brothers and fathers. We enjoy talking with our male co-workers and friends. In general, I'd say women have a positive view of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 12:53 AM
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Nobody--not up the thread, and not you--said anything about this alleged "manipulation" occurring after some magical amount of falling-in-love time. It's not manipulative if it happens before getting into a relationship. That's my point. Being made self-conscious and insecure by dint of words is perhaps the very definition of weakness. It's not just words, it's rejection by someone you love. A stranger saying it would be very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 12:47 AM
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Ok, I get you. I agree. FDS rejects them as personal spouses, but those men can still do whatever they want. Of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 12:44 AM
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But if one party is compromising in a relationship and the other is not, then to me that is manipulative. Yes, true. I understand that FDS women feel like they are being manipulated right now by men, but I don't think that the answer is going full blown the exact opposite side of the spectrum and demanding everything from men. Also true. You don't solve manipulation by becoming manipulative yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 10:59 PM
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It's about taking a person as they are. If you have an aversion to something about a person, you just don't comment on it or get into a relationship with them. Simple. But if you get into a relationship and then tell them their unshaved legs make them ugly, that's manipulation. You knew how you felt from the start. By this time, the woman loves you, and telling her something about herself is ugly is going to strike deep. She might shave because she loves you and wants to please you - that doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 10:57 PM
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Conclusion? It's just what is. Women feel love for men they get into relationships with. Women appreciate men for all they are in general - yes, all men. RP paints a very harsh picture of women in which they are just cold machines who look at men as money machines. If that were remotely true, why on earth would any woman go out to work in a paid job? Why would any woman bother to study or get a career? It makes no sense at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 10:52 PM
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Is this comment on the wrong post? That doesn't follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 10:49 PM
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Oh, okay. Sorry, I didn't quite follow before. I thought you meant that men should never improve themselves because it might make their wives feel bad or make girls in bars feel ugly. Yes, men don't need RP in order to improve themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 10:48 PM
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Of course we love and appreciate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 10:46 PM
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That is true. Women have been socialized to shave body hair. The pressure comes from other women as much as men. I have known hippie women who don't shave legs or pits and who have relationships with men who don't care. If a woman wants to stay unshaved and a man tries to make her change by making her feel bad, that would be manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 10:45 PM
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That's damned awful. I get the anger. It's the same kind of anger that comes from RP. But if it's instructional, it's not just dating strategy, it's losing your soul to strike out at the gender who hurt you. Which is just what rp instructs men to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 10:40 PM
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So I'm being manipulated when I shave my legs and armpits to be attractive to men? I wouldn't otherwise do this but it's a compromise It'd be manipulative though if a guy specifically told you that you're not pretty unless you shave your legs. If a man can't take you as you are, but tries to make you into what he wants, that's manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 10:36 PM
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An ideal solution would be for men to realize the nature of women, for women to realize the nature of men I agreed with your post apart from this. There is no 'female nature' or 'male nature' that can be applied to all people. If my guy treated me like I was hypergamous or submissive, that would be a huge mistake. I am anything but those things. If I treated him like he only wanted respect and not love, he would shrivel up and die. Our relationship is very even and equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 10:33 PM
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The weirdo pseudoscience. Nothing more needs to be said. All non-religious cults have some sort of pseudoscience at their base. Like flat earthers. Any attempt to change their minds will make them double down on those beliefs. RP are the flat earthers of the gender debates.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 10:25 PM
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Bloop men hate it because they pretend to stand for the things women do to get laid. You have no idea what blue pill men are like. They are human beings. Women know them on a level you never will.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 10:21 PM
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Yes, but it also forces them to confront some truths regarding human nature that they would prefer to remain oblivious to. RP can call women children until they are literally red in the face. Won't make it more true. RP has whacko science that is untrue and just plain weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 10:19 PM
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No, it's the crude science and the weirdness and the bile.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 10:16 PM
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Red Pill strategies can be calibrated to work on virtually any group of women you want. In that case, rp can be calibrated so far that it is no longer rp but is, in fact, feminism. Because there is no way that most women would go for an rp male.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 10:14 PM
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I agree, except that it largely does fail in its objectives. The men wouldn't stay angry or continue to rant in internet forums if they were getting what they wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 10:11 PM
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Say what?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 10:06 PM
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Most of us feel like Robin Hoods, stealing sex from the 1% of men who otherwise dominate it. You're not 'stealing sex' from other men. If you improve yourself, you're simply making yourself a more viable proposition in women's eyes - many of whom would not be having sex with the top whatever percent of men who are having sex, because they choose not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 10:05 PM
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Feminism gets things done. And they don't huddle in an internet forum making up cruddy 'science' and saying that men are shit and that women should avoid them apart from using them to make babies or whatever. Feminists love men, marry men and want men to win alongside women. They don't see it as 'if one gender wins, the other must lose' - which is the rp position.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 10:00 PM
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That's no red herring. It's the very crux of this discussion. Abortion is not just "an option". It's not an option at all for women who are religious or don't believe in it. It's not an option for women whose minds are changed by pregnancy hormones or who cannot go through with it for whatever reason. It's not an option for women who do not realize they are pregnant until it's too late. It's not an option for young girls who are forced not to abort by religious parents. Not an option for women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 09:54 PM
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No but I have friends who have. They said they were matched with men who were boring and older. They would not match them with any man who was even a little younger. So, they gave up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 07:22 AM
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So, what's happening is that the amount of money required is going up and the pool of men available is shrinking.... so in fact I see a lot of women who are becoming less picky about looks not more picky. The overall point being that physical attractiveness while definitely something women like, is not as much of a requirement as it is for men, who frankly often fail to care about any other traits. Actually, what is happening is that women are going for men that don't have degrees. Plenty of goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 02:23 AM
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I am in denial because I give gender differences? Okay. My argument is sound.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 02:12 AM
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No, it's a support group. Anyone looking at it from the outside knows exactly what it is. The "information" is cooked up bits from here and there that have been thrown into a pot of toxic stew. No one is "red pill" without being part of the forum, because the ideas are very, very out there and weird. Unless they believe in all of it, they are not red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 07:00 AM
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Hmmm, you seem pretty open with your family details, so I looked back at your posts. You said your dad made you and your brother work at his restuarant for hardly any pay whenever you went to stay with him. And he wanted some papers but your mother wouldn't let him have them because she wanted to protect you from him. I don't know your mom, and she might have been abusive, but at least she did the hard yards of raising you. Doesn't sound like your dad did. Sounds like he just tries to use you. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 06:57 AM
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All of them have had trouble and continue to. If they didn't, they wouldn't choose to stay in the rp support group.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 03:06 AM
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So, your dad is a great guy? Then tell me, why didn't you go live with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 03:04 AM
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Red Pill is about the truth, the cold, harsh, uncomfortable truth. Nah, the red pill is a support group for men who have trouble relating to women. All the so called 'science' is just a cope. Anything else is a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 12:20 AM
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What we don't get told is the red-pilled side of things as to exactly why women go from chasing a specific group of men to another as they age because they would no longer get the best of both worlds, they would have far less idiots waiting at the finish line. What that means is, men don't think women are people. Because men do EXACTLY the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 12:17 AM
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I mean i was raised in a liberal home by a single mom. She said that marriage is good but I think she was lying. What's your relationship like with your mom? Do you think she did the best for you she could? Where is your dad? Did you have the option to go and live with him if you wanted to? If you did have the option, but chose not to, why not? Could it be that your mom had a lot of good things about her that you dad didn't and doesn't? All I'm saying is, don't listen to the bitter guys in here …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 12:14 AM
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I think male sex drive would go way down. Because a lot of the appeal of sex is orgasm. Women have been socalized to think that the male orgasm is more important than theirs. A lot of sex is boring for women, but it still doesn't seem like sex unless the male orgasms. Because that's how society has always been. If women used men's bodies to orgasm, while men just laid there on the bed, men would get bored and lose their erection. And we've all seemed to learn that it's a terrible thing for a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 09:32 PM
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Women don't do shit, 90% of your jobs are fake jobs subsidized by the state. People who speak that way are bitter and worry they are failing at life, but don't take steps to help themselves, and therefore speak in broad and negative terms about others in order to make themselves feel better. That's not debate. I can't answer your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 09:25 PM
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They don't love the person they're cheating on, not in any way I'd find worthy. Anyway - hit or cheat - both good reasons to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 05:34 AM
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A cheater is not a lover.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 04:28 AM
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Those men didn't have to marry me to have ongoing sex with me. Nor were they short of options. The fact that many men want kids when women don't says something. Also, lots of men love having kids in their lives. I think you are a different kind of guy than most. http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/wellness/dating/story/2011/02/men-women-flip-the-script-in-gender-expectation/43219110/1
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 04:20 AM
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Baby rabies is for women only, not men Not in my experience. I have seen men leave women who won't agree to have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 02:46 AM
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Say what? Why have so many men tried to rush me off into marriage, then? And all men I've dated have wanted children. Men do crave having babies from what I've experienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 02:45 AM
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What does marriage offer? Men are great. I love living with my guy. That's what he offers - just being a guy. With or without children, I'd want to live with a man in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 02:43 AM
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You see what I see. Sometimes, when couples are much older, I see mismatches in looks, but usually only because things such as - the man lost his hair, gained some wrinkles and fat and gained a middle-aged look. Or the woman has had babies and put on a lot of weight and stopped doing her hair and makeup. When I see photos of when they were younger, their looks matched.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 02:35 AM
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There is way more incidence of M/M couples having sex outside of the relationships. This keeps the sex more exciting and yes they are going to have more sex overall. But after 10 years, M/M couples are having half the sex of M/F couples. http://williamrussellforcongress.com/how-often-do-gay-couples-have-sex/ After 10 years F/F couples' sex frequency drops a lot. But this could be about mechanics. It's hard for women to achieve orgasm with another person and easy by themselves. They might decide …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 11:16 PM
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I saw stats on that recently. M/M couples actually had a huge drop off in sexual frequency after a few years - way more than M/F couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 10:59 PM
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What % of strippers and prostitutes are male? I think that's the first clue that male and female sex drives at the very least "different". There is zero clue in that. Men simply can't get access to women in the way women can get access to men. Women have to restrict access due to pregnancy and risk. If men were restricted from women, women would be lining up at male strip shows. ​ Sex in the wild was a lot more costly for a woman then it is for a male. A man can just nutt inside a woman and walk…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 10:55 PM
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His links don't show what he asserted. Here is a link for the USA stats: https://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/07/health/filicide-parents-killing-kids-stats-trnd/index.html
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 10:45 PM
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This is a link for the USA. https://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/07/health/filicide-parents-killing-kids-stats-trnd/index.html Your links are for small countries or for child abuse stats overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 10:45 PM
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Infanticide is still almost universally committed by women, and new mothers in particular. And as a society we realized that maybe we'd be better off letting women walk away from their unwanted children with no strings attached than letting them kill them. More women then men kill infants directly after birth, but all the laws in the world won't help change that. It is often due to mental illness brought on by pregnancy hormones, resulting in post-partum psychosis. It's a real psychosis, in whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 10:31 PM
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while driving, just don't get into a carwreck, simple Your above analogy doesn't work because you can't help car crashes if other cars crash into you. Despite your best precautions, accidents can happen. That is in no way similar to sex. You can avoid sex if you want and you can also avoid pregnancy by using condoms. The only circumstance in which men can liken unprotected sex to carwrecks is if women roam about raping them randomly. Because in that case, despite men's best precautions, unprotec…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 10:06 PM
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I highly advise you choose a better analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 08:34 AM
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Kids who face battles due to low income families can grow up to cause many issues and cost to society. You might not care, but plenty of people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 04:21 AM
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Let the baby live with only one income. We alreadly let babies live with one income in other circumstances. Children raised on low incomes have lots of battles in life. It's not the ideal, which is why, as a society, we try to do better for children.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 03:37 AM
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I understand other women in a way I think you do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 03:36 AM
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A lot of women, even when making an active effort to understand the man's pov, simply aren't capable of "just getting it". N0. Actually, it's men who don't get it. Women actually have a lot of sympathy for men who don't want to be fathers and then are presented with an unwanted baby. Trust me. But you won't see that sympathy here because we are debating the law. What we are debating comes down to logic. Men can't see the logic because they are too busy thinking "but, but... we wanna have sex and…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 12:00 AM
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So having sex DOES NOT EQUAL CONSENT to starting a family. No. But sex without protection is acknowledgment that a pregnancy might occur. ​ Women's decision to keep the baby is a UNILATERAL decision that the guy is not given. Women already have an enormous amount to deal with in terms of sex that men do not. If men are allowed to have no responsibility for putting unprotected sperm inside the place where eggs are, we'd be treating them like are babies and placing all responsibility for sex outco…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 11:51 PM
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The same type of rhetoric is basically used by pro-lifers when the concept of abortion is brought up. Their oh so simple solution is "don't want kids, don't have sex, easy peasy". It kinda sidesteps the crazy idea that people have sex without the intent to get pregnant . That doesn't correlate. Because there are other options for men who don't want to create babies. They are called condoms and vascectomy. Men don't have to 'not have sex' to avoid becoming fathers. Yes, most sex is had without th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 11:44 PM
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Quotes are not debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 11:35 PM
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"while driving, just don't get into a carwreck, simple" This conveys nothing Say WHAT? To make that analogy work, you'd have to have a scenario in which women go about raping men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 11:33 PM
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Then we should had abortion as that is the same argument used against abortion lol. But a condom is not the same as a baby. Totally different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 11:32 PM
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Yes, that too. Or doesn't even realize she is pregnant until it's too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 11:31 PM
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This is practical but highlights the double standard. Consent to sex is not consent to parenting for women. But it is for men. It's close to being a double standard and I can see why men want things to be different. The thing standing in the way of it being a double standard is just pure biology. Men and women's bodies are different and lead to different outcomes. I agree. But my argument is that if women have the choice to have that kid or not, or even to give up parental rights after that kid …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 11:30 PM
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A substantial majority of women are externally motivated. If that were true, we'd have far more women behaving like men - taking out their anger on others, public displays of aggression etc. Instead, women tend to reflect on things internally far more than do men. Most women don't reply on what other women think in order to make a decision. If they did, far less women would get sucked in by 'bad boys'.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 11:18 PM
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Are you a woman? If so, you don't understand how little men care about how much money you make and what your job title is. I don't need to understand. All I need is the stats. Men with degrees are more likely to choose women with degrees for marriage. Not only that, the woman's major matters. https://www.zippia.com/advice/major-marriage-metrics/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 11:14 PM
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Just close your legs. But I wasn't saying men should close their legs. I said they should use condoms if they don't want to cause a pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 11:03 PM
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I totally understand men not wanting to pay for sex. All I'm saying is that it's something that can be paid for. Lots of women never find love. They end up living alone or with a man who never loved them. But at your age, you'd have very different perspectives.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 11:02 PM
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This represents about 50% of couples. I'd say much more than 50%. Almost all couples I see are a match for each other in looks. I'm not going to make an argument that women are not shallow Everyone is shallow to a degree. It's due to our evolutionary past. I've got a good friend who is a CEO, and while he isn't ugly, he dates women half his age. If he has money, then bang, there's your reason for that. But this is also changing rapidly. Young women are making more and more money for themselves. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 10:34 PM
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Not in the least. There is no hypocrisy there. Women cannot help being the ones to have uteruses. They cannot help being the ones to get pregnant. Just like men cannot help being bigger and having much greater brute strength than women. Things can't be perfectly equal between men and women because of these physical aspects. All we can do is to state that each person owns their own body. If a child is created and born, it belongs to both people who created it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 10:19 PM
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Any man can get sex if he pays. No one in the world, including women, can get love if they pay. Money guarantees sex. Money does not guarantee love. If a man wants sex, he can get it. If a woman wants love, she might never get it. Therefore, how can 'not getting sex' be more painful than 'not getting love' if one of those things can be paid for and obtained?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 10:15 PM
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Women SMV = Looks.. that's it. Super untrue. Men with degrees and good careers generally seek women with degrees and good careers for marriage. Do those things make her a more attractive prospect? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 09:56 AM
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It would be super rare for a woman to do that. If it happened to you, yes, you are a victim. But we were talking in broad terms, not about individuals. So, are you a father due to her poking holes? And did you see her do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 09:49 AM
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See the hypocrisy now? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 09:47 AM
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I'm as shallow as everyone else. I think men underestimate how much women notice looks. Proof of this? Most couples are about as attractive as each other. So, a very attractive woman will most often choose a very attractive man for a relationship. If women saw looks differently to men, this wouldn't be the case. Men stare at boobs and butts a lot more than women stare at men's bodies, but that's only because they can't gain access to most women's bodies. Also, to be honest, women stare at other …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 09:19 AM
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.... you don't see the basic hypocrisy of this position? Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 09:15 AM
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What really matters is that her friends and acquaintances think she landed a good one. The details don't matter so long as she's getting validation from her group. Women don't need validation from friends to know they've got a good man. That's a fundemental misunderstanding of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 05:53 AM
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female attraction It's about the same percentage as male attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 05:49 AM
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If a woman needs to rely on a man for child support, It's for the child. Half/half responsibility from the man and woman. As for the rest, it keeps coming back to the fact that women can't help having uteruses. Stop arguing about abortion. For some women, it's not a choice. If she does not believe in it or can't go through with it, it is not an option. End of story. Rather than piling onto women, why not direct that effort into campaigning for better contraceptive for men???
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 05:47 AM
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If the condoms fails, that's life. Maybe literally. If you want total control, there is vascetomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 05:40 AM
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I didn't say don't have sex. I said, if you wanna have sex but don't want a baby, protect yourself with condoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 05:07 AM
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You've almost got it right Woman owns her body. She owns her eggs, her uterus, her genitals. Man owns his body. He owns his sperm, his genitals. That's it. The man can choose whether or not to put his sperm into the place where the eggs and uterus are. It's his choice. He can't choose what happens inside the woman's body, just as she can't choose what happens inside his body. For example, the woman cannot demand he has a vasecetomy and she also can't tell him he can't have one. Man's sperm going…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 05:05 AM
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This sounds incredibly similar to the argument that abortion should be illegal outside of rape and incest. In no way is it similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 04:35 AM
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One fail is enough to ruin a guy's life. One fail of the pill or an IUD is enough to ruin a woman's life. Happens all the time. If she doen't believe in abortion or can't bring herself to go through with it, she is sunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 02:58 AM
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Condoms fail and there is plenty of cases of women taking condoms out of the trash and getting themselves pregnant. Condoms rarely fail. Also, women's BC and IUDs fail. Men can dispose of their used condoms themselves - wash them out or take them with them. Getting pregnant from a used condom you fished from the trash is highly unlikely,but men can still take precautions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 02:56 AM
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Her body, her responsibility. His body. His responsbility. He owns his sperm. What he does with it is his choice and his choice alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 02:53 AM
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For a woman to become a single mom, she had to have had unprotected sex with a man (at least once but usually several times or with several men). The men could have used condoms. If they don't want kids, they have the option of condoms. They also somehow forget that mom didn't have the best interests of the child when she chose to have uncommitted, unprotected sex, yet would still raise the child in poverty. As did the man. He should have kept his unprotected penis out. If he puts his penis in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 02:49 AM
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Equalizes the field Keep your unprotected penis out of women. Use your own condoms. Simple. Equalizes the field.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 02:47 AM
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On contrary. Welfare breeds crime. Why then did the crime rate drop dramatically in the USA in the 90s and onwards? Welfare and single mothers increased a lot from the 90s on. The rate of crime was much higher in the 80s and early 90s. Those people who were committing the crimes were from the two-parent families of the 50s, 60s and 70s.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 02:44 AM
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The welfare line. Say what? Are there more women than men on welfare? Clue me in here. Male resources, labour and protection are all easily accessible for women. I need to get me some of that male resources, labor and protection then. Gimme gimme. Where do I go to get it? Seems to me that men (and women) depend upon women to provide the people (babies) that keep society running. The jobs men have depend upon a steady supply of people who buy and use goods and services. You just expect that women…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 02:38 AM
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Oh no, not mean words on the internet! Some of those 'mean word' people went on to kill real people in real life. They are not just words. These are people filled with hate, who blame everyone except themselves for the way their lives have played out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 02:28 AM
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You're saying that they don't deserve treatment because of the way that they act while ignoring the reason for why they're acting out as if there wasn't one. I'm saying that if someone says that a group of innocent people are crud, you can't expect that group of people to think highly of that person. No, such a person doesn't deserve respect. Until they learn to respect others. I can understand why such men are striking out. I can even feel sympathy. But I can't hold respect. I have seen people …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 02:24 AM
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I thought most women want relationships with high value men. That's been one of the limiting factors. Lack of access to the same resources men have access to. Which is why women have aimed to marry men with resources and stay married. Isn't that what romance novels and movies are about? Yes. And really, women read and watch those so that they can experience lots of different men - safely. Many romance novels could be termed 'erotic romance', too. There is sex all through them. If everything was …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 02:13 AM
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It is from a woman's perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 12:20 AM
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While everything they want from us is handed to them by the state. What gets handed to women? Man, I'm missing out. In which line do I stand?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/20 12:19 AM
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No, a transman is someone who decides they are a man. They don't need to take T to decide that. Most of these people will not be like the majority of women. They are different. Different brains, different wiring, perhaps different hormone levels and physical aspects. They are not like the typical woman who takes T. Look at it this way - if taking testosterone could solve low libido in women, there would be NO low libido in women. But testosterone ONLY works to increase libido if you are low in i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 10:35 PM
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Nope, we are absolutely wired to like sugar. And we're wired to eat a lot and sit around, if we can. We don't just do it. We do it because we are wired to like sweet things. Many animals will do the same, if they have the opportunity. They will eat sweet things and sit around and get fat. Fair enough about nature's plan = evolution. But you're better off using the correct word so we know what you're talking about, or at least putting these around the word - " ".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 10:30 PM
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They'd still stop if they were treated differently. How can you treat someone differently who has that kind of attitude? I'm afraid that people value people who have "get up and go". People who slink away and blame the world are never liked. And, in most cases, no one treated them badly. All that happened is that they didn't get what they see other men getting. I have seen "incels" in their forums laughing about the rape/rape and murder of women and saying they deserved it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 10:26 PM
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The point is that women who want to be valued for their hobbies/interests alone defacto compete with guys, and almost all women find it easier to be valued for their looks/sexiness. Yes, I get that. Men are more likely to value the hobbies of other men. That does make sense. I don't think women seek to be valued by men for their hobbies, but they also don't want to be put down for them. Yes, women do seek to be valued for their looks - it's the way society is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 10:22 PM
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I'm going by what I've seen in "incel" forums. I have absolutely seen posts in those forums in which men post articles about women who've been raped, or raped and murdered, and laughing and cheering. They were vile.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 10:20 PM
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There are, but their pain isn't comparable to men's That's a ridiculous statement. There are women who most men find unattractive, who just get used during any sexual encounter and who never find romantic love. Just being used for sex is much, much worse than no sex. Why would you imagine men's pain is worse? All human beings have capacity to feel enormous pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 10:18 PM
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A woman would like to do that, too. Despite what rp think, both men and women would have sex freely if there were no limiting factors. For example, one huge limiting factor is STDs. But the purpose of all life is to keep going, right? It has to be the ultimate aim, with everything in the evolution of that species refining itself ontinually for that "goal". In the animal kingdom, impregnating one female and then resourcing is common. Or impregnating a small group (as Lions do). But in which anima…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 10:15 PM
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The point of male sex, in nature, is to impregnate as many women as possible. Not to live in a social reconstruct. No it isn't. The point of male sex is procreation and to have those babies survive. That's it. It's not to impregnate as many females as possible. If it was, we wouldn't have animal species who mate for life with one partner. We wouldn't have tribes of animals either. Males would just run about impregnating random females. It's also to have the healthiest, strongest, youngest and mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 07:03 AM
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TLDR Human species go bye-bye. Probably not. Enough women would still have babies to keep it going. I agree with the rest of your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 06:58 AM
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These are the words of people with wounded hearts. People with wounded hearts don't call human beings 'femoids' and 'sluts' or 'cum dumpsters'. They are just the kind of people who blame everyone for their misfortunes. The ones that are still talking about women would likely break down and cry Nope. These are the people who cheer when women are raped and abused. There is little hope for most of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 06:56 AM
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You enjoy sex, but in order to get sex you have to put out with some inconveniences like... Women. Just don't do it. If you don't like women, don't do sex with them. Simple. You need to work to get money to survive. You don't need sex to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 06:48 AM
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Men want to fuck because it's nature's plan, not ours. Nature has no plan. Are you religious?? We evolved to like sex. But we evolved to like eating sugar and getting fat and sitting around on our asses all day (if we can get away with it). We can do whatever we want. We have human brains. You don't have to have sex. You don't have to get fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 06:46 AM
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Ask any women tranny Woman. Tranny. Pick one. (Tranny as in woman transitioning to man)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 06:38 AM
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They want to be loved and valued and have an emotional connection with someone in a sexual relationship. That's not what they say. They say they despise women and that women are worthless apart from being used as sex objects. So, as the OP says, why not just forget about women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 06:37 AM
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She's saying, if you hate women so much, why don't you just avoid them. Makes a lot of sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 06:35 AM
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It's sad but probably true of a lot of men. I've had relationships with such men. It doesn't last. You need to find someone who respects people, not a gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 06:30 AM
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This is not middle ground. This is firm blues and firm reds, with some purples and blacks in between.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 06:28 AM
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PPD Middle ground is just tbp pretending they're not tbp. Uh, no. Blue pillers recognize purples as not being blue. They have a different mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 06:27 AM
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There are a lot of men who aren't doing well in the mating game and there understandable pain twists and distorts every post. Then you get triggered women responding to the male anger, sometimes trolling it. Because there are no single women undergoing pain in the mating game? Women just 'get triggered' by male anger and that's why they're here? Oh, please. Easy to see where you stand. Not in the middle, that's for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 06:24 AM
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Yes those are hobbies. I love old illustrations and books, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 12:58 AM
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I dont recall shopping,laughing,eating and sleeping being hobbies. I have male friends and relatives who go ferreting goods at second hand stores and markets, and they tell everyone about the bargains they got. Eh, it's a hobby. I wouldn't put them down for it and claim that it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 10:11 PM
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I think it would depend on the age. Little girls often tend to dominate boys. But as children get older, the boys start to dominate. Possibly, boys start to see that men run the world, and this gives them a boost which makes them think they are superior and that what they say matters more.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 10:06 PM
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Any animal can get pregnant and have a baby. Yes. But female humans can do everything male humans can do, except the same feats of brute strength. Same as male humans can do anything female humans can do, apart from having babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 08:12 PM
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realize you are competing with his male friends; who are playing in rock bands, rebuilding car engines, diving, fishing, snow boarding. hahahahahahhah Many guys are busy playing games and posting angry diatribes in internet forums. No one believes all men are doing the above things. Also, there is no way that men aged 20-30 are treated the same as women aged 60+. The two groups are so different there is no comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 08:07 PM
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They do?? Not in any groups of kids I've seen. The loudest, most confident kids are defered to, whether boys or girls. Also, girls are often a little more advanced with language and maturity, and sometimes they organize the boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 11:04 AM
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Telling girls (and women) that they’re wonderful when they actually aren’t does them a massive disservice All kids are wonderful and should be praised regularly. But not over the top praise, of course. As for my children, every community in which we have lived has considered my wife and I to be exceptional parents. Our children are well raised, well cared for and have exceptional lives that are the envy of most. You literally said in your last post that your girls have lots of character flaws. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 01:41 AM
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Boys grow up and become adults. No one produces the adult male. Lots of people help them on their way - or not. Same as for girls growing into adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/20 01:36 AM
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Yes. My desire runs from late afternoon to the night. Mornings - ugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 10:30 PM
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Women tend to consume, men tend to produce. Ever see a man produce a baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 10:28 PM
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girls hit puberty and basically stop maturing until menopause Someone with your attitude should not be a father - of any child, let alone girls. That's an idiotic statement. You have no understanding of women, obviously. I pity girls who have to grow up with a father who thinks so little of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 10:25 PM
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It maybe because in most social situations girls are the passive ones and boys are the initiatives. What does that mean? How are girls passive socially when many of them talk so much?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 10:16 PM
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Girls tend to make their perception of things their reality, that may not be the exact reality of the situation. *cough cough splutter* That's the red pill in a nutshell.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 10:13 PM
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Best answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 10:10 PM
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It's not an attitude. I don't enjoy sex in the mornings. It's a physical thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 10:09 PM
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Sorry doesn't have to feed you. I don't know you. Why would I feed you? I am allowed to be sorry though. I've helped a lot of kids around the neighborhoods where I've lived. I notice everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 10:07 PM
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I couldn't read the whole article, but what I read makes sense. For non-violent crimes, why send women to jail when there will be no one to care for their children? We should do the same for men. The change for women is more urgent, because of the children, but I don't see the need to send men to jail for non-violent crimes. We need to do better. Note that i didn't say we shouldn't send women to jail at all. Some women commit heinous crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 05:25 AM
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Who said anything about calling social services? I was talking about women in high risk situations - who stepped up when there were men around.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 05:20 AM
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Yes, but I was talking about couples who'd been together for a while. Yes, gay men are more promiscuous. Which makes sense, because sex is not as risky for them as for women (as long as they use condoms).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 05:18 AM
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I don't like morning sex. Blah. Seriously, I'd rather sleep for that 10 minutes. And nope - no time at all. It's a complete rush of all kinds to get everyone out the door in the morning.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 05:16 AM
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Yes, women do say they need some dick. Frequently. You don't hear it because you're not a woman. Yes, some women do bring home rando guys. But not most women. Because casual sex is risky for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 01:51 AM
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If women were just as horny as men, their standards would be just as low as men. False. Women don't need to have low standards because sex is easy to get. And casual sex is highly risky for women. And casual sex is often not as good as a vibrator.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 01:50 AM
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Female sex drive also seems to be more responsive--women frequently report having no interest in sex until a male partner warms them up, and then they discover that they are very aroused. Nah. That's some women on hormonal BC. If women's sex drives were generally only responsive, why would they have vibrators? Would make no sense at all. A vibrator doesn't jump from the cupboard and talk dirty to the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 01:47 AM
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No time in the mornings. Busy household here. But every night, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 01:43 AM
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Your having sex at a frequency that only gay men see. Gay men in couples don't see that kind of frequency. That's a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 01:42 AM
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So hypothetical speaking the average point on the male sex drive curve would be wanting sex 3-4 times a week while on the female sex drive curve the average would be 1-2 times a week. That's comparing apples with oranges. Women are on hormonal BC, they are pregnant and breastfeeding and worn out from raising small children etc. The natural female sex drive, in the same situation as men (no BC, no pregnancy etc) is very similar. ​ That study has always stuck in my mind because I remember when I r…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 01:39 AM
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Forget about gay and straight. Just think about a circumstance in which a friend rapes you. Because it is that shocking to a woman when a man rapes her and every bit as confronting. You didn't expect that your friend would rape you. She didn't expect that the man she thought was her friend would rape her. Imagine your male friend shoving his penis into you, when you didn't expect or want it, and then consider the term "crying rape".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 01:27 AM
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1 guy has 20 chicks As if. Where do you guys get these fantasies from? Do you spend all day fantasising about 'alphas'? What is a man going to do with 20 women? He has no hope of keeping them satisfied. None. In cultures where this happens, it's either about religion or they are dirt poor or he's mega rich and the women are just using him for his money.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 12:54 AM
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The females will get social stimulation from each other whilst sharing the alpha male. That's dumb. No man is able to have enough sex with a pack of women to keep those women satisfied. And who keeps you warm at night? No way. Most women would like one man. One good man is worth any amount of sex with an 'alpha male'. In prehistory, women would have hung together to keep watch over children, share the care of the elderly/infirm, hunt small animals, go fishing and fight off wild animals. And they…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 12:51 AM
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I have no idea what you just said.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 12:43 AM
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I'm sorry your mom did all that. She deserves jail time. You really still can tell people what happened. You're unlikely to heal from it unless you do. I don't know why child services did nothing. Often, child services did nothing when dads or stepdads sexually abused children, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 12:42 AM
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You could argue it always comes back to feminism, since no woman would have ever been given the time of day once for claims she went back to a mans room or house alone and wanted to cry rape. If you went to a male friend's house and he raped you, would you be 'crying rape'? Or would you think you deserved his penis up your ass just for daring to go to his house alone? Serious question.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 12:35 AM
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What you say is true but also not true. Yes, we're telling men who do not intend to rape not to rape. And men who are sociopathic rapists will not stop just by being told to stop. So, you are correct there. But date rape is a thing, and is often carried out by men who keep pushing the boundaries and escalating with every woman they date. And a culture where people say 'no means maybe' and 'she wanted it' and 'she was dressed like a slut' are creating a society in which some men think it's okay t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 12:31 AM
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Yep. Also - women who have rape fantasies are more likely to also have fantasies about dominating men. They are switches. There have been a couple of studies that I found before and will try finding again.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 12:26 AM
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Yep, I've done both and my experience is that looking after kids is more exhausting. Not saying that it's the hardest job in the world. It's just more physically and emotionally taxing than most kinds of jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 12:19 AM
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The comments are full of the same hate and blather. I prefer to look around for myself than read the toxic comments from men here. The men here are not like other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 12:17 AM
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But I've seen video evidence of women stepping back when there are men around. You mean, you always see women stepping up? If that was a typo, consider all the female teachers who put themselves in danger to stop male school shooters, even when there were male teachers around. And the woman who went to stop the Islamic killer in London, who had just beheaded a man - and there were planty of men around who did nothing. Not to mention all the millions of women protecting children from male attacke…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/20 12:09 AM
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but what about physical accidents or animal attacks? How often do animals attack women? And how often do men save women when this happens? And when women are attacked by people, it's almost always going to be a man. Because it's not generally other women attacking women. It's men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 11:54 PM
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You're a good carrot. That's as it should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 11:50 PM
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Except, it would be rare if that happened. Women do go to jail for harming men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 11:48 PM
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womens entitlement to protection and provision What protection and provision are you talking about??? Men do not protect women. Both men and women provision a household financially these days. Or, sometimes, one of them stays home and does unpaid labor, which is also a type of provisioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 11:47 PM
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Maybe that's part of the problem. The women who are ok being shown naked are far and few between.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 03:10 AM
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I can definitely see women who are just looking for short-term fun and casual sex being attracted to RP traits. Agree. Except - 'rp traits' in real life are those of a bunch of sad, bitter, anxious men who are terrified they're missing out, and are therefore hiding out in their rp support group and striking out at women. The traits that rp aspire to are mainstream. Being confident, fun, flirty, non-clingy, dressing well, working out, having showers, having boundaries etc
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 03:07 AM
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Yes I've watched it. They often seem to pick women who have no survival skills whatsoever. Although in one of them, the only reason they had shelter during the storm was because the woman insisted on building it. Which saved them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 03:26 AM
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Yeah sure. Women don’t date men just for the free meals, doesn’t happen. Not very often at all. Having to sit there with some boring guy and then field off his attempts to have sex? Not fun and not worth the meal. Women don’t pretend to like men just for their money. Yes, some do. Usually, he is a lot older and knows why she's a golddigger, but he accepts it. Women don’t promise fidelity in front of family and friends and then instigate 70% of divorces. That's not a lie. People get married inten…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 03:23 AM
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If you say most western people do x, y, z - and it's a stereotype, it's racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 03:19 AM
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I would say men care about 50% more about sex, which is why they pay hookers far more often, while for most women that’s unimaginable. Women don't need to pay hookers. That's the big difference. For women it’s not that important. Untrue. For some women, it's not. For most, it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 03:17 AM
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A woman who is repulsed by casual sex will have a lower threshold because looks matter much less in the long term. I think it would be the opposite. Women who are into casual sex might look for the fun guy above all else. She's looking for variety. She doesn't have to live with him and look at him every day. Women wanting long term relationships will choose the best of everything she can get, including looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 11:05 AM
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I was talking about women's romantic feelings towards a man. Usually, if she says she likes him, she really likes him. Men claiming anything to get women into bed... a way, way bigger percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 11:02 AM
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I was talking about women's romantic feelings towards a man. Usually, if she says she likes him, she really likes him. Men claiming anything to get women into bed... a way, way bigger percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 11:02 AM
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I was talking about women's romantic feelings towards a man. Usually, if she says she likes him, she really likes him. False rape claims are real but a very tiny percentage. Men claiming anything to get women into bed... a way, way bigger percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 11:01 AM
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Men are honest with what they want form women, it's one of the first things girls learn about guys No, you're wrong. The first thing girls often learn is that men lie. Men say anything to get them into bed. It's usually women who are honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 03:16 AM
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Yes, would marry. Do not care if he masturbates sometimes using a toy. Masturbation is healthy. Your partner will not always feel like sex. Sex dolls though - no. Too weird. Having said that, I imagine that in the future, they'll become a lot more commonplace - for both women and men. But still, at this point in time, I could not get past the ick factor. I think IR sex will become a thing in the future, and everyone will probably do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 03:10 AM
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Ok, maybe a few people want it but don't admit it. Truce.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 02:58 AM
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"Your grandma keeps my stomach filled and my balls emptied, that's why we're married for so goddamn long" Ugh, I'd throw up if my grandpa said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 02:53 AM
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I don't agree. Too many women have seen what happens when men dominate a relationship. There are only a small percentage of couples in which this can work.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 02:50 AM
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Equal. Anything else would be silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 02:48 AM
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Most Western women’s hobbies are Netflix, shopping and gossiping. They don’t have any actual cultural interests, and usually the only books they read are the infamous Fifty Shades series and similar trash. Found the racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 02:47 AM
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Also half the women you ask will say "Looks don't matter, Do you honestly go around asking women this question? I find that extremely diffciult to believe. instead of just being straight up. BP will not tell you the extent that looks Men don't go around telling women that either, whether they are rp or not!! Women have to work it out for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 02:45 AM
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Whats shocking is them being turned on by pieces of shit and the mental gymnastics theyll play to justify it Yes, I admit to being shocked by men who'll crawl over cut glass for a bitchy woman who is obviously just using them. Or older, rich men who get with young women and say it's "love", while they must surely know why the young woman is really with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 02:40 AM
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That sounds a bit more like pure sexual arousal (equivalent of an erection for us) Yes, but it involves a lot more "area" than an erection, and can last all day (which an erection certainly can't and doesn't). And the sensation can (depending on the woman) get stronger and stronger, until it feels like a dull pain. It can certainly take over all thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 02:35 AM
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Yes, it's when you steal fries from your friends when they aren't looking. Correct answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/20 02:32 AM
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Good pronouns. But your jet cannot have a wrap. You do know what stealthing is, right? Right??? Right????????????
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 11:21 PM
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Yes, exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 11:19 PM
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I do get that feeling you describe, but it is not the equivalent, because, obvs, we don't have a bunch of millions of eggs that are bursting to get out. It's easier with a pic: So, that whole system engorges and keeps engorging, and then the uterus (not pictured) rises up and pulls on everything in the picture, and it starts engorging, too, and also contracting. It can take over your thoughts completely, and stay that way for hours or even all day and into the night. If you don't do anything abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 11:17 PM
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Interesting. Which pronoun do you prefer to be called by? Jet? Stealth? Omg, don't tell me you're one of those stealthing devotees.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 11:03 PM
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Men not in relationships might feel like crazed sex fiends.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 10:59 PM
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Men don't feel it constantly. Maybe men who are not in a relationship, but it would be mixed with just a desire for intimacy. I know for certain that men in relationships don't feel it constantly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 10:58 PM
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Are you a dodecahedron, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 07:54 AM
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Testosterone is the primary determinant of sex drive. Um... no. Women's bodies use a mix of hormones. We're not as dependent on T for sex drive as men are. Sex drive is all about blood surging to certain areas of the body and causing arousal. This happens as a natural process for women, due to their mix of hormones.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 07:52 AM
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Women have look at food or be presented with food to get hungry because the drive for hunger just isn’t as present in women as it is in men. Not true of women for either food or sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 07:50 AM
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Women's sex drive is mostly reactive as opposed to men's being active. That means that women need to see, think or feel something most of the time before they experience any sexual arousal Nah, dude. Sexual arousal comes out of nowhere for women. It's just there. No triggers. That's why vibrators are a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 07:49 AM
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or we get blueballs which is basically a testicular cramp and yes, it is very unpleasant. Women don't get an equivalent to blue balls, but they do get a big build up of engorgement that can start to pain if it goes on too long with an orgasm. Women would love to always get orgasms from sex, but we've been socialized over thousands of years to expect that the man's needs are greater than our own. So, women are forced to lower their expectations of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 07:47 AM
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Men's and women's sex drives are different, as in, compared to men, women don't even have one. What a weird thought. I want sex every day. I need an orgasm at least once a day, sex or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 07:43 AM
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Women overestimate how much they are ok with being alone/without a man. I think I'd agree with that. Not all women, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 07:41 AM
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Is it hard dating women with so many different sides?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 07:36 AM
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Of course you come back at a woman who makes negative comments about your looks. If you think women's looks don't get criticized by men though, you must be joking. Men actually rate women from 1 to 10 - reduce them to a mere number. They laugh at the fat girls, make comments about flat or saggy boobs, call unattractive women all kinds of names. The thing about women being beautiful 'at any shape or size' is for them - to make a woman feel better about herself. She's not so stupid she thinks the …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 07:35 AM
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Yeah, most people comb their hair before leaving the house lol. When it comes to bodies, I think too many people like food too much to stay trim, even if they're going to have to show that body :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 07:29 AM
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You said what your ex was doing was a cock block. Therefore, you must have been interested in the other women in the church? What else could it possibly mean. I didn't say you were there to pick up women. You said your wife was cockblocking you. Which means stopping you from approaching women in the church. If she left you for another man but is jealous of women you see, then she sounds pretty flighty. I don't blame you for going MGTOW after that experience. I am glad I confirmed your suspicions…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 11:40 PM
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No. They are not more or less attractive. Married men do attract women who are looking for NSA sex though and those who get a thrill out of the whole idea of sneaking around with a married man. If you've physically improved since getting engaged, there's your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 11:31 PM
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One of the strongest indicators for a man's value is other women wanting him. Women will speak highly of their partners and come to find their closest friends in bed with them soon after. Close contact can produce affairs in people who are predisposed to having affairs - both men and women. A woman speaking highly of her partner does not make the man more sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 11:28 PM
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All women respond to preselection. Nope. Dead wrong. Women are easily able to figure out if a man is worthy of them or not, all by themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 11:26 PM
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You were in CHURCH for YOUR KID's confirmation? Of course your exwife would be by your side - for your kid's sake. Why would you be trying to pick up women in a church and on a day meant to be special for your kid? Your kid might find it pretty disappointing that Dad is more interested in women than him/her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 11:25 PM
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Men's "entitlement to female bodies" is a feminist projection. It's MEN'S BODIES than society has entitlement to - every day men are killed at work doing dangerous and shitty jobs to keep society running smoothly. Capitalist societies use people, full stop. Men are killed in paid jobs. Women are killed in unpaid jobs - childbirth (26 women in every 100,000 in the US dying in childbirth in 2015) and being wives (killed by their partner). Women are also largely in care professions, in the frontlin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 11:17 PM
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If we went around nude as a normal thing, you can bet EVERYONE would start taking better care of their bodies. I'm not sure of that. Have you seen footage of nudists? I have. They seem so comfortable with nudity and their bodies that they're not bothered about presenting perfect bodies to the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 11:08 PM
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Random stranger rape is exceptionally rare Only because most women protect themselves. If girls and women went out walking/jogging around the streets alone at night, stranger rape would be common.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 11:06 PM
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Seducing and fucking women with them and seeing their reactions helps. You're are a data point of one. You might choose certain types of women, or certain types of women might be attracted to you. I'm not. You are. You don't actually have a good understanding of female sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/20 11:04 PM
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Looks are VERY important but they aren't the only factor female sexuality responds too. Status and game are also very important. Female sexuality responds to personality as well as looks. Not status or game. If you're not a woman, how can you say that status and game affect female sexuality? How do you know what turns us on? You don't. You're confusing male availability (game) and relationship attractiveness (status) with female sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 11:26 PM
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The point of the black pill is that women will never love you for who you are. That's a poor understanding of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 11:23 PM
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A more angular face with defined cheekbones is considered attractive in women (and men). Very rounded faces are not considered the height of womens beauty. The younger you are, the more facial fat you have. Yep. I had very full cheeks in my 20s, even though I was slim. My 30s have produced a slimmer face, which looks better.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 11:20 PM
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Men largely date younger women because youth begets fertility, I agree with this. Likewise, as women's earning capacity grows, women are choosing men who are their own age or younger. It's all due to who has the best fertility, which is always going to be men and women in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 11:18 PM
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If I saw my husband watching porn involving a woman my age I’d get his head examined. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 11:15 PM
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If younger women didn't reward older men with sex and relationships It's on the decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 11:13 PM
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Have you tried dating a man in his early 20's? 8/10 they're sex obsessed and just barely outgrown their still developing-teenage brains. Not all young men are like that. And remember, from the 50s to 80s, it was common for men to marry in their early 20s and start a family. https://www.infoplease.com/us/marital-status/median-age-first-marriage-1890-2010
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 11:09 PM
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Not always. The difference is, usually the woman isn't going to take the student up on his attraction. Whereas a lot more men would take up a female student on her attraction. Which is why you hear of it more. The French president's wife was never hot, but he still saw something in her that he was attracted to. She was his teacher and is 25 years older - https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/06/14/22/4D3D9F8500000578-0-image-a-10_1529010452779.jpg Also, only a small percentage of female studen…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 10:55 PM
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My place is not only not childproof, it's downright dangerous. Weights, guns, swords, the works. Hmmm, maybe don't bring anyone back there at all - man, woman or child lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 10:45 PM
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You know why female students have crushes on their professors? Status. Why do male students get crushes on female teachers and professors?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 09:24 AM
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But that women find asshole behavior sexually attractive IS a red pill concept Some women. Usually from poor neighborhoods. Most women are not attracted to crazy (assholes). But, there is a lot of crazy (assholery) among young men. Can be hard to weed out, because many guys are very good at hiding it until they have a commitment. Then the crazy comes out. And yes, crazy and asshole are very, very closely related. But if a woman is an asshole, she is more likely to be called crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 09:18 AM
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If I'm one of the few women you haven't block, it must look like a sausage fest to you in PPD lol. I'd say, whatever you do, choose women who do not have kids. Ignore anyone who says different.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 09:08 AM
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Yes and yes. Sometimes. Women might have an ONS with a man that are LESS sexually attracted to - because they just felt like some NSA fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 09:03 AM
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Those men are more attractive overall but not 'sexually'. High status is attractive for relationships. No 'game' can make you more sexually attractive. Personality can. You might be mixing up game and personality. Pickup techniques can help a lot - because they come under the banner of confidence. But those techniques don't make you more attractive - they just make you more available.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 09:01 AM
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Men's are far more visual and women's are far more conceptual and contextual Women's idea of attractiveness is looks. That's it. Because that's all you've got when you first look at a person or see them in a photo. Women are just as visual as men are. They have eyes. Beyond that, lots of other things can make a person more or less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 09:30 AM
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The factors that matter to female sexuality are looks, STATUS AND GAME and personality. Game might be fun but it's not sexy. Status might be enticing but it's not sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 09:28 AM
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And trust me, with my station in life, there's a fair bit of pressure to "man up" and do so You feel pressure to marry a single mother? I never see anyone insisting on that. I think that someone who has an aversion to women who already have kids should never go anywhere near a single mother. A bad deal for everyone involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 11:27 PM
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I think it's good that you know that. Because then you know never to date single mothers, and you'll never risk hurting their children emotionally. Knowing yourself is a good thing to bring to a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 11:24 PM
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No, totally wrong. It's mostly about the visual. No way does a woman prefer a '6' over an '8' just because of who likes him. But - if women prefer the 6 over the 8, there must be something really wrong with the 8. And just who is this 6 that 'every single girl wants'??? Does he have money? If all things are equal in terms of the guy himself - personality, morals etc, except for looks - most women will go for the better looking guy. If no one else seems to be snapping him up, she'll wonder what's…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 11:08 PM
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Women desire any good looking man. Being married doesn't make him more or less good looking. Unless she is in the groups I stated above.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 11:03 PM
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Men don't actually do the vast amount of asking anymore (in terms of longterm relationships, which is what we're talking about). In the age of online dating, women are there liking, choosing and contacting. Women don't send out vast amounts of 'have sex with me' contacts like men do, because most women aren't looking for just sex and also aren't playing a numbers game. In terms of quality contacts, that are about long-term relationships and not just casual hookups, women are actively looking and…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 11:01 PM
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Married men are wanted by women who fear commitment or like to cause drama in other people's lives or find all the sneaking around turns them on. Those women will target married men on purpose. Women who want a solid relationship or who have morals will NOT go for a married man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 02:51 AM
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Women don’t think logically like men do. They think emotionally. If men were as logical as they like to think they are, no man would be confused about what women want in a man. RP wouldn't exist. Women are very logical and calm, which is why they are not rushing into one relationship after the other, esp. when they get older. Because they'd rather live a single life than be with a man who makes their life worse. Women don't expect the right man to come along. They look for the right man, but if …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 02:50 AM
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It does sound miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 12:16 AM
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So do you think if no women were on birth control, that women's sex drive might be much closer to men's? Possibly equal to men's? I think that if women were not on hormonal BC from the start, they would be very different. Just say there was a new BC for men tomorrow, and no woman had to use BC - I still don't think women would pursue random men for sex, because sex would still be risky for women. But in a relationship, things could be very different. Not counting the pregnancy/early years of rai…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 12:16 AM
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There is only one way this sentence of yours can be understood. If a woman holds off on sex that means she isn't really into you on a primal level. If you mean other things, you need to state them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 12:11 AM
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Yes, mind and health play a big part. It's also down to genetics and telomeres. Some people age faster than others, and you can't tell which people are which until about age 30. So, you are right about that. Some people will look great at 25 but very middle-aged at 40. While others will still look young and unwrinkled at age 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 12:09 AM
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You're probably right. Why tell them the truth? They can't listen to anyone but themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 12:06 AM
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Studies can twist anything any which way. Women know what women know. A man surounded by beautiful women does not look any more beautiful. Gold digger women might think he must have money, but that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 12:05 AM
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Attention from other women, mostly. They want desirable guys that other women also find desirable. Nah. This doesn't matter. A woman knows if a man is attractive, whether he's in a crowd or alone. > If a group of women decide that a guy is hot, then they all want him, Totally NO. No one can make a woman desire a man who is not her type.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 09:57 AM
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RP says you won't find that soft center in a 'true alpha'. He'll never show it to you. I don't believe in the concept of alphas and betas myself, but rp certainly does.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 09:54 AM
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So, yes holding off on sex just send a message she isn't that much attracted to you on a primal, physical level. No way. I was dying to have sex with my guy, on a primal level. But I'm a human being, not an animal. I didn't want to fuck it up by having sex too soon. If a woman holds off on sex that means she isn't really into you on a primal level. So, you just admitted that is what you really think. Maintenance Sex isn't a thing after all, right? It might be a thing in some relationships but ce…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 09:52 AM
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Did you not mind not having sex with him when you dated for months? If it bothered you not fucking him, then fine. Yes and yes. However, if you actually didn't mind not fucking him for months and now you try to make me believe you want sex every day, I call you a liar. Of course I minded. But I wanted to get to know him as friends first and see if we had something solid and worthwhile first. The way you put it though, it was as if a woman holding off on sex with a man means she's not sexually in…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 09:49 AM
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I think you're right about the homoerotic fantasy. There doesn't seem to be another explanation for the way their minds operate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 09:47 AM
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I mean not minding not having sex with him for a couple of month. That means she isn't that much into you sexually, on a primal level. Completely wrong!! I put off sex when it comes to a man that I really, really want to have sex with and would also like a relationship with. It's years into my current relationship. We both want sex every day. And yes, we dated for months before we had sex for the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 05:08 AM
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The thing is women who hold off on sex are also the ones who don't mind not having sex with you. What? Are you serious?? You don't get women. Holding off on sex is about a lot of things. But it has NOTHING to do with how much a woman does or doesn't want to have sex with a guy or the future of sex in their relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 05:05 AM
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The age I am now. Mid-30s. I look and feel my best. I've worked out which foods were causing my issues and I'm got so much more energy. I was what I guess you'd call cute between 20-30, but it took until this age for my face to slim a little. Most people think I'm about 25. Up to age 30, I was often mistaken for a teenager. So, I definitely prefer this age and look.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 04:59 AM
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While to women it was like some huge life altering change or something. Ha! No. Women were happy about some relax time at home, because they are the busy ones - working and driving kids everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 04:51 AM
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True alphas never exhibit distress. Red pill 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 04:49 AM
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Men value looks in women and women value status in men No, women value value looks in men far more than status. The women who value status over looks are known as gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 04:43 AM
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There have been a few really bad ones. Essure was definitely awful.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/20 12:26 AM
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Yes but that’s a really unfair way to paint it. Many prior female birth controls would probably not make it past the clinical trial process today because of adverse events. I don't think it's so much that women are throwing crap on men for not wanting to put up with side effects. It's that women are expected to put up with all the side effects. When they complain, they're often patted on the head by their doctor and told it's all in their mind. The only way women are generally heard is if they g…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 03:23 AM
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Both articles are really interesting. I was not on BC when I met my partner. I choose men based on sexual attractiveness first, and then everything else second. After 8 years, I still find him very attractive and we have a strong relationship. When I was very young, after coming out of a failed marriage, I went through a brief phase of dating older men. I was on BC then. If I'd married one of them, I could have easily been very unhappy with my choice later on. Because when I see those guys now, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 03:19 AM
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judging past contexts with a modern mindset is sacrilege to a historian. When BC first came out, it solved a BIG issue and arguably was the catalytic event for massive strides in individual liberty for women, no? Yes. I'm merely talking about the health effects. Women end up medicated from their teen years to past menopause. Almost all their lives. That has to have a drastic effect. I think most people would retrospectively look at hormonal BC in a positive light overall. Sure, it definitely was…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 03:10 AM
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I think the real story is even worse. We build nerve pathways (neuro, pudendal nerve and central nervous system etc) from bodily experiences and learning. If a teenage girl is on the pill right from age 14 or 15, her body might not ever build those pathways. What we are doing to women is going to be a horrific chapter in our medical history books. Every time I see a man here squeal "But women have multiple BC options at their disposal" - I think, yeah, you stupid fucker, you don't have to use or…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 12:34 AM
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Johnny Depp admitted to a doctor via text he cut his finger himself. The doctor provided those texts in court. Depp claimed it was Amber. Pretty cunning and manipulative, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/20 12:13 AM
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I'm glad the truth made you feel so happy you cried.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 07:03 AM
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The lack of orgasms for heterosexual women is a rhetoric weapon used by feminists to show how women don't get much from sex. It's true to a point. Most women won't come from PIV sex. And casual sex with random men will probably just result in him getting off and not her. I was talking about FWB sex or sex with a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 07:02 AM
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You must have friends with no jobs who can stay awake all night with a baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 07:01 AM
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It's not virtue signalling. Belonging is a nice, warm feeling. Jealousy and ownership are cold, spiteful kinds of feelings. Extreme feelings of ownership can lead to stalking, maiming or killing someone if they cheat on you/leave you. Women only super rarely kill men for doing those things and do not often stalk or maim. Therefore, I hold that that a feeling of belonging is not the same as a feeling of ownership.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 07:00 AM
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IME, all of them are subconsciously hoping for commitment, even the ones with multiple FWBs. Just because you came across desperados, doesn't mean all women are like that. I have most definitely had FWB sex with men that I would have never wanted commitment from. My biggest problem was getting FWB men not to fall in love and want commtment from me. But - I don't take my personal experience and assume all men all like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 11:13 PM
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Who has the upper hand, the man who always gets his nut, or the woman who never really cums and is doing it for attention, validation and the hope of commitment? You don't understand female sexuality. Sex can be like the best mental and physical buzz - like the period just before an orgasm, but it goes on and on and on. Best high ever. Orgasms are amazing but over too quickly. I don't crave attention, validation or the hope of commitment from sex. I get the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 11:11 PM
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Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 11:07 PM
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I agree with this. There is a sense of who belongs to who.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 11:06 PM
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absolutely, but women never feel like they "own" men Women don't feel like they 'own' men, but in a relationship, they do feel as if they belong to each other. So, in that way, she does feel like her man belongs to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 11:05 PM
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Yep. This ^ It's just sex. Not sharing a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 11:03 PM
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Very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 10:59 PM
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Nope. I'm basing my opinion on the opinions of most women. Nowhere did I say that there are no women who voluntarily want to stay home. In fact, it's often the best choice when raising young children. My point is that society is set up so that a lot of women's labor is unpaid. Simply that. Which can end up making them the servants of the spouse who is paid - if they are expected to do all the housekeeping.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 10:50 PM
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That is untrue. Look at this chart of crime stats in the USA. Crime has been sharply decreasing since the 1980s/1990s. https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/analysis/Huffpost%20charts%202.png More info here: https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/americas-faulty-perception-crime-rates Yet, during those decades, single motherhood was sharply rising. In the 80s and early 90s, crime rose sharply. Those young men commiting those crimes were the sons of nuclear families i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 11:38 PM
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Disease and pestilence was surely worse in a capital than in a corpse ridden war zone Most soldiers didn't see active battle. if we're going to compare a corpse-ridden war zone, then you'd have to compare the worst rat-infested sector of a city. Half of children in history didn't live until puberty. Half. Think about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 11:26 PM
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Yep, women in survival mode will choose whatever it takes to protect themselves and their children. Which is the biggest reason that humans have survived, or indeed, any animal. Survival requires that the females protect their young.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 11:04 PM
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All I can say is, the sperminator function of the machine has him screaming each day. I never watch, so I can't say I know exactly what happens. But it's worth it - for me anyway. I have a whole freezer full of his splodge. I recommend the SpermJacker freezer for this function. It fits all your frozen vegies as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 10:56 PM
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Many older women resigned themselves to their husbands cheating - esp. if they were religious or had few options financially if they left. Your aunts being married in their late teens says a lot. They would have been under their husbands' thumbs from the very start. Yes, most women would like a man who makes as much or more. But this isn't hard-wired hypergmany. This is because, in our society, things are still unequal between men and women. A woman who stops working to have and raise a baby wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 10:49 PM
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Yes, there are some young and silly women who think they can sleep their way to a boyfriend. But they wise up, except for a very small, stupid percentage. There is also a percentage of women who knows exactly what they're doing in having lots of sexual partners - they're just having fun. Where rp thinking goes wrong is to assume that women consider the men they sleep with (just sleep with) as having greater status in their eyes than the man they settle down with. Women who actively make a decisi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 10:45 PM
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'Simp' is a gen Z term for a nice guy. I wish trp would quit taking things from mainstream and trying to claim them as their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 10:40 PM
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This is the problem of sleeping around and “sampling the goods” in your 20s. Once you experience the very top echelons of men, It’s impossible to settle for your looksmatch at the end. You're looking at it from a male perspective. Because if the prettiest women slept with you, you'd think you were hot stuff. Women don't place much value in men sleeping with them. They know full well that if a hot guy sleeps with them but doesn't want commitment that the sex was meaningless. (Which for some women…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 08:04 AM
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Why do you think women hate on TRP and MGTOW so much? Women actually don't think those groups have any impact. They dislike them because they're just more men shitting on women. And women are sick of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 07:57 AM
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Yes, and some of us are literally parasites. I tap into my husbands red blood cells to steel his essence. I have the husband-ater 6000. It taps his blood and his sperm and his wallet every day. I keep the sperm in cold storage in case I ever need it to blackmail him with. The blood I use to keep my skin fresh and wrinkle-free. The contents of his wallet get extracted as soon as he walks in the door. It's working well. Best investment I ever made.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 07:54 AM
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“Well kept servant” is how you categorise a woman in a loving relationship provided with the privilege of taking care of her own children full time. That's what women most often were. Except often they weren't even 'well kept'.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 07:49 AM
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Most women didnt want to be a soldier, because you frequently would die. Women are ALREADY soldiers. Throughout history, they battled their own biology - countless millions died in childbirth. Women were almost always pregnant or raising babies. Why would they take a pregnant body or baby into battle? And why would they want to get involved in wars started by men? If women can have a say in which battles are fought, then, and only then, should they join the battle. Because the vast majority of w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 07:47 AM
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This notion that only women were "not allowed good jobs" is such a small timeframe in human history. Throughout history NOBODY had a "good job" This is untrue. Guilds provided fairly good working conditions and the ability to learn a skill to an expert level and earn a good income. Women were largely excluded from guilds. They were also largely excluded from learning science, philosophy and medicine and working in those fields. There have always been better 'jobs for the boys'. Women have always…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 07:41 AM
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It's impossible to ask what blue pill believes as we are the vast majority and all hold different beliefs. In terms of the anti-red pillers, specifically, I think blue pillers think that rp operates like a support group for men who are bitter about women. Blue pill doesn't believe in twisting science to fit pre-conceived beliefs (esp. bitter beliefs). BP believes you can change your life for the better without standing on someone else's neck. I think most BP'ers would believe that people adapt t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 05:46 AM
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I agree with RP that heterosexual women are sexually hypergamous, and that heterosexual men are sexually polygynous, and that this is the main difference between the sexes. I'm pretty sure that I could convince most Blue Pillers that this is the case, I don't think you could convince most BP'ers that this is the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 05:30 AM
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You have obviously not had relationships yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/20 05:27 AM
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Number one reason for divorce is woman feels unhappy because hubs doesn't lead. What the fuck would women need to be led? They are grownups. Women don't leave because of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 01:30 AM
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That 'fleshy hole' can do more damage to a penis than a mouth can. If she moves suddenly, she can break the penis. https://www.getroman.com/health-guide/broken-penis-penile-fracture/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 01:24 AM
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I think it's because they can't relate to a vagina but they can relate to a mouth. Having said that, the other day smoogs said to me that PIV is a 'violation of the bodily integrity'. So, there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 01:19 AM
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This is a question for men not for women. The post she answered talked about what women think.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 01:15 AM
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Is she letting me throat-fuck her while she gags on my cock? That seems very cold and maybe sociopathic to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 01:12 AM
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I respect that stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 01:10 AM
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hahahahahhahhahahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 10:01 PM
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Have you apologized to her for being ugly on the inside?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 10:01 PM
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I cheated on my wife when she was pregnant the first time and she deserved it. I did it on purpose and she ended up apologizing to me because she was ugly. You just made that up. About her apologizing for being ugly, that is. Let's just be honest here most modern women do not deserve sexual fidelity from their husbands at all. Did a woman or two cheat on you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 07:57 AM
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Hahahahahahahahaha Having sex doesn't give men power! Maybe in other men's eyes, I don't know. A woman is never going to see her man as powerful because he slept with another woman. She'll see him as weak at best. I do watch what they do. Most have broken up. Some of the rest have become toxic relationships in which the woman very obviously has no respect for her husband. Only a few managed to work through it - though in half of those, it was the woman who cheated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 07:55 AM
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Friends aren't going to step in and sleep over so they can feed a crying baby bottles of milk during the night. That's either you or your mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 07:51 AM
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Kids are a big deterrent for men meeting single mothers, too. I think when women meet single dads, they worry that they will be expected to become the cook, cleaner and chauffeur to a his kids. Whereas a single mother would never expect that a man (single dad or not) will do the cooking/cleaning/general work for her kids. That said, I know of women who've taken on a man's kids and have done all that for them. Myself, I'd fully accept a man's kids. But if he had kids he'd left behind, I wouldn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 07:50 AM
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Did you just call me a... tart? gasps Anyway... you might be right about the ego part.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 05:27 AM
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A person who finds beauty in simplicity - yes, that is me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 05:26 AM
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I don't even get why men would ask women. Women don't ask men what men like. Women have eyes - they can see what kind of women men go for.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 03:23 AM
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What is the exact opposite? That women would keep the house spotless if they knew it would get them sex from their husbands? I think this convo is burning my brain cells lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 03:22 AM
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Husband, although didn't form any emotional attachment with his female co-worker, had NSA sex with her. ^ That one is far worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 03:14 AM
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I've come to that conclusion because it was a definite problem on the red pill women subs - men pretending to be women. If they are there, then they are here in PPD. It's part of mansplaining - men going to the length of pretending to be women in order to 'teach women how to be women'. (I don't usually use the term mansplaining, as I don't like it. But it makes it clear what I'm talking about in this instance.)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 03:12 AM
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Why would women lead with telling men they like good looks? That would be silly. Men have eyes. They can see the kind of men women go for.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 03:10 AM
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Did you mean that men would take care to pay all the bills and clean the house if they knew it would get them sex from their wives?? That kind of behavior doesn't make women more sexy to men either. That's Blue pill 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 03:08 AM
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If he has sex with someone else, even with no emotions involved, she loses respect for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 01:57 AM
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There are plenty of "women" on this sub who are actually men. And there are women who are in open relationships. Lots of women have said they would leave if their boyfriend/husband had sex with another person - far more than not. Doesn't matter the reason for a man having sex with another person - the very act makes him low quality and makes her lose respect for him. Losing respect is toxic for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 01:56 AM
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Emotional fidelity is far more recoverable. Sleeping with a stripper is grounds for divorce. A guy who will do that will do it again and again. And once is way too far all on its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 01:52 AM
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I don't like, mentally or sexually, men who are tall or muscly, or loud, or aggressive/assertive, or stoic/emotionless. Men like that practically trigger a fight or flight in me. I don't like being around them, I don't like talking to them, and I definitely don't want to fuck them. Yep, me too. Such behavior triggers flight or fight - usually fight. I don't mind some muscles but dislike the body builder type of musculature. I like guys to look masculine, but loud or aggressive behavior is a big …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 01:38 AM
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The fact that he is doing a nice gesture isn't what is turning that chick on. It's the combination. Why is that hard to understand? Looks come first but other important things follow. The higher the self-esteem of the woman, the less shitty behavior she's willing to take from a guy. Guys who look good and are also good people are very sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 01:23 AM
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I also think a few women are actually turned on by genuinely nice behaviors, too. But I do think that this is a minority of women. Yes, most definitely. I don't think it's a minority though. Sex is risky for women. A hawt guy who is also nice is a turn-on. A hawt guy who is an asshole will turn off most women - as evidenced by all the divorces of hawt sports star men who turn out to be assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 01:20 AM
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If they did, every married man would have an 800 credit score and a spotless house. What does that mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 01:18 AM
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I think that some women are wired so that certain beta comfort traits are actually sexually attractive alpha traits to them. I also think that some women are wired so that traits that are alpha traits to many women are not attractive to them at all. Very true. That's how I'm wired.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 01:17 AM
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That's a shitty study. Women are hurt just as much by sexual infidelity as emotional. In fact, more so. If a woman's husband formed an attachment to a woman at work, but then he didn't allow it to go further - the woman would generally find a way to forgive him. But if he went as far as having sex with her, she is likely to divorce him or at least want to. Because sex is meant to be sacred in her eyes. ​ Regarding females, emotional infidelity is more harmful than sexual infidelity, because when…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 01:04 AM
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You mean, you have a mother to step in and do your parenting for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 12:56 AM
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That's good that 50% is the common thing in Canada. I'm guessing it's a time limited thing - until the other parent gets on their feet financially? I understand it. If one has spent years off work raising the kids and the other has been able to grow their career - then the two of them are not on equal footing after divorce. The idea that "most men" don't take care of their own children post divorce is a myth. I know I'm just one person, but it's what I see. Over and over again. The guy moves awa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 12:55 AM
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Some men are literally in prison for non-payment of child support. I know that. That doesn't have to mean they got the raw end - just that they didn't pay. At the same time, I realize that some low-income/unemployed men might be struggling and the system is unfair to those guys. It's unfair to the custodial parents as well, who are struggling, as well as having kids to clothe and feed and be emotionally strong for. Divorced men almost 10 times more likely to commit suicide after divorce than wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 12:44 AM
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That's still pretty short. I'm 5' 4" and had no room left inside with each of my babies in the last month. Taller women with larger frames and longer abdomens do have more room in which to carry a baby. Short women give birth days earlier than tall women and are more likely to have a premature baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 06:07 AM
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Yeah, a baby is a huge thing to have inside of you. It pushes all your organs out of the way. I had no room left with mine - I am 5' 4" Taller women with larger frames and longer abdomens do have more room in which to carry a baby. Short women give birth days earlier than tall women and are more likely to have a premature baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 06:05 AM
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If she got 50% custody he'd half to do half the child rearing and child care. But lots of men won't do this. Or they sling the kids to some dubious relative or new girlfriend, and the kids are unhappy and not being looked after. 95% of all alimony and child support payments go from men to women. There are indeed cash and prizes. No cash or prizes when you are the one raising the kids. If she was sitting on her ass with no kids to raise and just collecting alimony - that might be what you're desc…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 05:59 AM
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Are you suggesting it’s cultural? No, I said it was biological. Women are only as big as they absolutely need to be to make a baby and that's all. But, today, after 1000s of years of seeing women who are a lot smaller than men, men have come to see this as what women ideally look like. They don’t just appear de novo because it’s ‘the norm’ for thousands of years. Nothing is new. I don't know what you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 05:56 AM
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I don’t think women evolved to be smaller to make babies that doesn’t even really make sense considering how risky child birth is Women are only as big as they absolutely need to be to make a baby and that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 05:51 AM
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And I don’t buy into the “risk” part. Sure, everyone claims that all men are violent rapists and all that jazz. And pregnancy nonsense, as if there’s no cure for that or anything. Because you've never been a woman or walked in their shoes. No, men are not all rapists and murderers. But if women stopped being careful overnight, many thousands more of them would be raped and murdered each year. It's because women are careful that this doesn't happen far more than it currently does. And no, most wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 10:58 PM
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Which means lawyers are using false abuse claims against men. Having been a victim of this, I think that a large part of the reason for it, is to get a restraining order in place to force the man to move out of the house and create grounds for taking it. I can well imagine that this goes on. No-fault divorce is best, with each person getting half. The big problem is when this happens, and then the non-custodial parent hides money in a business, the children miss out. Best scenario is probably th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 10:53 PM
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Most women get the worst part of it after separation/divorce. They have the daily struggle of the kids while trying to balance a job. There are no 'cash and prizes'. Yes, it's definitely a tactic. And while the courts might be "onto it" a lot of money can still be ferreted away into a business.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 10:40 PM
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Not educated but you do need the drive to start your own business. Mostly, the men who find themselves in trouble with child support are men on very low incomes/unemployed. The mothers of their children are poor and struggling, and the fathers are also poor and struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 10:37 PM
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Looks > height. A nice body and face in a shorter guy is streets ahead of the tall guy who does not have a nice body or face.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 10:34 PM
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Most women can tell height, regardless of their own height. It's a measurement. They know what a 6' person looks like, especially when they see people beside each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 10:29 PM
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Yes, that would be one factor at play, but it leads to selection in terms of hip width rather than height as that would be a better predictor for that. No, it would include height. Babies do not fit well inside the average woman and also cause her lots of pain or discomfort. Evolution has not yet found an equilibirium. A taller woman has more room for the baby, with all the internal organs getting squished and can also take more added weight than a small woman can. The reasons women are generall…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 10:23 PM
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There’s no motherly advantage to being tall for a woman, and the extra resources she’d consume would be a huge disadvantage, so there’s selection pressure for women to be smaller. There actually are motherly advantages to being taller. A taller woman has more room to house a baby and is more likely to have wider hips - in comparison to a slightly built, short woman. The taller, stronger woman is also able to provide more physical protection to her children. Women would not have been able to rely…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 10:12 PM
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If women’s sex drive was anything like men’s the. It would be reflected in culture. It isn’t. Sex drive as in seeking out partners for sex? You are correct. Sex drive as in wanting orgasms? You are not correct. Women don't seek out sexual partners as much because sex is highly risky for women. She's more likely to give herself the orgasm and forgo sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 01:54 PM
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Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 01:51 PM
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They already have the companies/corporations before they divorce usually. You do not need to be rich to have those.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 01:51 PM
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Dudes plural. Lots of people run companies and corporations - they don't need to be wealthy. The guys can also get a new girlfriend to do their books or work for the company, and then hand her a huge amount of money. All pre-tax. And so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 01:50 PM
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You do not need to be that rich to have those.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 01:33 PM
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They get out of it. As I said above, by hiding money in companies and trusts. And fake bucket companies to run the trusts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 06:25 AM
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​ I often hear women are interested in "commitment". A commitment for what, exactly? A commitment to do what, exactly? To stay together for life. For a connection you can't get from anyone else. For sex only with each other. For romantic love only given to each other. To know that you have each other by your side through life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 06:19 AM
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They have no comparable sex drive to men Many women have comparable sex to men. Lot of men have a low sex drive or lower than the woman they are with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 06:15 AM
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FWBs and STRs usually just fulfill the mans ego with no benefit to the woman. I think the sex is the thing that makes the hassle worth it. In the distant past when I had FWBs, after they were vetted, it was all ok from there. We used condoms - no hormonal birth control, because I refuse to put that into my body. They knew that if a pregnancy resulted, I would have the baby, so I told them they needed to make very, very sure to use the condom properly. I didn't have any issues with "bonding chemi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 06:14 AM
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Every single one that I've met has had... outfits . Every woman you've met had role-play outfits?? My wardrobe feels very lacking now...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 06:06 AM
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I wish gigantic douchebags weren't the go-to demographic for the profession of journalism. It'd be nice if I could just be a person in society who's trying his best, occasionally fucks up but learns from his mistakes instead of one member of the group called "Men" that is talked about by large media organizations, authors, and yes, women. What does that mean, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 06:04 AM
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Is it frustrating you can't have sex with him (because he's asexual)?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 06:03 AM
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That didn't go well for you - your wife was a dick. But I know of lots of women who got divorced and kept the kids - but only got half of everything, and there were no payments afterward. The man will have hidden his money away in a company and trusts etc. The man does not want the kids more than half of the time - and then when he gets a girlfriend, he moves away with her and leaves his kids behind (or sees them only every 2nd week or once a month). All I see is women getting the raw end of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 05:56 AM
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Agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/20 12:46 AM
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Women rarely masturbate to images. I'm quite certain they do. Going by stats of women visiting porn sites, that's exactly what they're doing. A woman isn't going to read a whole book when she wants an O. She'll do whatever gets her there quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 06:10 AM
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We're talking 'natural' as in nature. There is no marriage in nature. There is only survival - long enough to sire the next generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 06:06 AM
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A high number of women have always died in pregnancy/childbirth. If women had also engaged in other high-risk activities, there would have been few women around. Women had to preserve themselves because so many of them died. It's simply a numbers game.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 12:45 AM
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Women prove their worth with displays of fertility. The later doesn't require risk taking. It certainly does. Pregnancy and childbirth have always involved risk-taking. A high number of women have always died in pregnancy/childbirth. If women had also engaged in other high-risk activities, there would have been few women around. It's simply a numbers game.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 12:44 AM
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It's not the natural order. The best chance for a healthy baby is two young parents. That is the natural order.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 12:27 AM
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Easy work. 2 toddlers in diapers took about half my attention, so a task like a motorcycle tune up took about twice as long when I was also alone with my two kids. My question was if you raised babies from birth, alone. If you didn't do that, and you weren't always alone with them, then you didn't experience what I'm talking about. If you're only a part-time parent, you have no idea what it is like.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 12:23 AM
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Yes, I did watch that. And yep, chilling. A good reason why any changes that undermine women's autonomy need to be challenged before they happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/20 12:20 AM
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That's a dream. Why should men ever give up that power? They are giving it up. Because reasonable men realize that the decision-making of women is also needed in the military. The YPJ is part of the SDF. The SDF is led by men. The PKK controls the SDF. This is the PKK: https://www.institutkurde.org/en/info/female-fighters-we-won-t-stand-for-male-dominance-1223595409.html "The PKK women say they are fighting for their rights. "We want ... society that revolves around women," one says. "We want a …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 06:42 AM
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Alternatively, they could be given a path to happiness. It's really not "that" hard. If they are going to 'make shit go down' if they don't get what they want, then they need to be controlled, right? Unless what they're asking for is at all reasonable - which it isn't. You can't ask women to give sex to random men. Just like you can't ask men to give commitment to random women. The phrase that actually describes this is "men in jail, women as slaves". Everybody is a slave to the machine. Sad, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 06:30 AM
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Are you saying you raised babies on your own from birth and found it super easy? Like, no work at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 06:27 AM
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I did look them up. They are not led by men. In the future, men will not have final authority over the military - it will be equal, as it should be. Men cannot make those decisions on their own. "When the Syrian Democratic Forces, an American-backed coalition, captured Raqqa from the Islamic State in October, the overall commander was a Y.P.J. woman, Rojda Felat." "By law, every government institution in Kurdish-controlled Syria has a co-president or co-chairman of each sex, and most government …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 03:40 AM
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Wut? I'm talking about kids who have been born, most often with the approval of the father.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 03:31 AM
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So, start debating and quit being the forum police and telling other people what they should be debating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 03:30 AM
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What you might not understand is that women, by and large, don't understand that there is such a large percentage of men who haven't yet had sex. When girls are growing up, they get harassed and coerced into sex. It's hard for them to understand that there are so many men not having sex if they want it. So, it can seem a red flag because the woman imagines the guy has hangups or weird ideas about sex if he's been avoiding sex (as far as she knows). And then if she has sex with him, and wants a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 03:26 AM
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What's your point? That men run away from the responsibilities of raising children far too much? Then I agree with you. Why do we let them get away with not being involved in their children's lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 03:18 AM
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Yes, but if all we do is act after the crime is already done, what good are we really doing? The point is to try brainstorm a solution so that it doesn't get to that point. Agreed. But if we're talking men rioting about not getting sex, what are we meant to do? What you're essentially arguing here is that a person's experience does not shape who they become, which is just wrong What I'm arguing is if something like not getting sex turns you into a violent criminal, then you need to be put in jai…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 03:17 AM
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I want a robots that never had any free will and never will have it. I don't think you know the story. The women weren't turned into robots. They were killed. The robots were just robots - no free will. Construction, oil rig workers, miners, factory workers, open ocean fishing, police, military, sewer maintenance, supply chain... I can list all the essential work that women do, too. Such as nurses. And women can do all those jobs you just listed if men step down. A lot of the reason women don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 02:59 AM
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Then we better hope they can step up faster than men step down and start to break things. It's already happened and is happening. Look around.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 02:50 AM
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Instead of stepping up, why not take a step back, and reevaluate our situation. Constant evaluation is healthy. I'd never suggest moving in a direction without evaluation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 02:49 AM
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They weren't led by men. They led themselves, at a station womanned only by women. Yes, a lot of history contained mass rape. Future wars will be fought by robots and human controlled AI. Once it's fully here, men will never rule over women again, anywhere in the world. Men's rule almost led to the destruction of the environment, and destruction of the human race. It's vital to the survival of humans that men do not rule over women ever again.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 02:48 AM
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If enough men believe that society does not give them a viable path to happiness, shit goes down. If so, then they need to be tightly controlled. If they want to act like children, women are going to have to keep stepping up (as they currently are).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 01:18 AM
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What I would like is for technology to advance to the point that we can replace women completely. Artificial wombs, A.I.s, sex robots. Gee, Ms Moral must be happy to know that about you. You belong in the Stepford Wives world. The first one is men being over productive. As in creating more value than what they need to survive. Men do that because all the extra income after what they need to survive and entertain themselves Women also do this these days. They create less babies but more resources…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 01:14 AM
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If the takeover was quick, women would band together and form strongholds and shoot it out. We have real-life examples of this, such as the female army who fought against ISIS for years. That is exactly what would happen in the west. There have been far too many years of feminism now. Women would not put up with mass rape and men controlling them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 01:02 AM
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Not every MGTOW is a loser, yo. I saw a drawing from the MGTOW forum the other day, in which the MGTOWer depicted girls 10-15 as alluring to male netizens because of their innocence. Seems that guys connected to the MGTOW forum are far worse than 'losers'.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 12:55 AM
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Women have no special privileges. There are welfare programs for people with children - which any single man or woman with children can access.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 12:53 AM
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The more sexless men there are the more violent crime and civil unrest there will be, it’s huge a destabilizing force. We have places for people who commit violent crime. Also, I'm fucking sick of hearing that the men who don't get sex will commit violent crime. If so, they were never any good to begin with. What would happen if women who didn't get commitment went out committing violent crime and rampaging? All the women who get left with the kids and in poverty and working two jobs to try to r…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 12:50 AM
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And to go more direct— it’s either bad faith or lack of self awareness to reject nice guys and date assholes and then complain about how there are no nice guys Who cares about women who do that? Do you? I see clickbait articles about it, but apart from that, crickets. And seriously, I don't care and don't know why anyone would.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 12:38 AM
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wow your jokes are good. Everyone must be so impressed with you and your jokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 12:35 AM
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Oh put a sock in it. Don't tell me what I should or should not respond to. I think you need to get off the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 12:34 AM
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Men obsess over that stuff. Women don't. A man having sex with lots of women does not make him more attractive - and for many women, it makes him less attractive. Your virgin status would appeal most to women who are also virgins. Women generally prefer a man with about as much sexual experience as herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/20 12:32 AM
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You'd be a part of rape culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 02:09 PM
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do women attempt to organize society to maximize access to alpha males? No. Women attempt to organize society to maximize well-being for children and families and work/life balance. ​ Chad the alpha who dominates hhahahahahahhahahhahahahahahh ahaha ahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 04:33 AM
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Put the kid in a big box... every day? That's it? It might stay alive, if you feed it, but man, I'd hate to think of its intellectual and emotional development.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 04:30 AM
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I know what it is. If you went to the trouble of posting it, I assume you agree with it. If you don't agree with it, I think you need to make that clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 04:28 AM
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What a shitty father you had. It must have given you a shitty view of men to have a dad who was drunk all the time and absent. What a difference it would have made if he'd stepped up. Am sick and tired of hearing stories about shitty fathers who don't put in the time and effort with their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 04:26 AM
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Women love men that are promiscuous No they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 04:22 AM
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Do not ever have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 04:19 AM
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Good luck finding a woman who will agree to your request to only have a boy. What a wonderful life for her, carrying a baby for 9 months and then raising it through the early childhood years, only to have it swooped upon by his father and taken to a nest at the top of a barren mountain, where he will be taught the ways of woman-hating but also the getting of women for sex at all costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 04:19 AM
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Not nearly as expensive as people think. That I can agree on. You don't need all the bells and whistles for a baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 04:05 AM
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Really? You mean it's easy to keep alive the most helpless, time-intensive, labor-intensive baby animal on the planet? Have you raised a baby from birth all on your own? Keeping a baby alive requires constant vigilance. There's the daily risks of it choking, drowning, falling from a height, poisoning, spider bite, strangling itself, being fed the wrong food/inadequate food.... and that's all without the baby being born with a disability of some sort. Some parents seem be always drunk or drugged …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 04:03 AM
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I was replying to a comment, not directly to the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/20 03:37 AM
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Prostitution costs money Sex cost money for women. Contraception, doctor visits, multiple health issues caused by contraception and yet more doctor visits, allergic reactions to condoms and more doctor visits, thrush caused by sex or lube with medication, possible abortions, time off work for possible abortions etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 10:15 PM
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I'm glad you've experienced female sexuality in the way that I and many of my female friends know it. In this forum, it sometimes feels as if none of these guys have had sex with any/many women, and are just making it up as they go along. Yep, gay men buy vibrators, but not the kind of vibrators that women mostly buy, which are focused on getting women to orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 05:07 AM
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Oh give it up, Smoogs. A penis is not a sword. Not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/20 05:03 AM
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And he submits to his penis being surrounded by an organ. He's invited into the house, but he must be a good guest if he wants to stay. He must not violate the house by entering into it, or he'll be swiftly ejected. I used the vibrator analogy simply to show that from a woman's point of view, inserting a penis or inserting a vibrator can be similar things. She could be using a penis as a human vibrator if all she wants is an orgasm, The owner of the penis has agency and so does she.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/20 02:17 AM
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Thank you for handing me that. Couldn't have phrased it better. A woman has agency and she can act upon a man. As if he is a vibrator. Or a banana.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 02:20 PM
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I disagree that submissiveness requires pretending. It does during sex. Unless you don't want it. Then it's not pretending. Anytime you penetrate the bodily integrity of something you are in the dominant role. Say WHAT? It's just a fairly small appendage going into a place it was biologically intended for. I'm guessing you think a banana is penetrating your bodily integrity every time you eat one. Bananas 1 Smoogs 0 You literally just said it’s only submission if you are being overpowered or giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 10:12 AM
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Even at 80 a healthy man's libido is usually stronger than a woman in her peak. hahahahahhahhahahhhahhhahahahhahhhahhhahhaha How deluded can you possibly be??? Women's libido comes from a range of hormones, not just T. You have truly no idea what a woman's libido is like or why the sales of vibrators are so strong. No wonder so many men end up at the red pill. They are clueless about women, and it shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 04:47 AM
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because I have a hard time Lots of men are not having a hard time. Mild and moderate erectile dysfunction affects approximately 10 percent of men per decade of life (i.e., 50 percent of men in their 50s, 60 percent of men in their 60s). https://www.uwhealth.org/urology/erectile-dysfunction-ed/20537#:~:text=About%205%20percent%20of%20men,of%20men%20in%20their%2060s)..) I'm guessing the real numbers are far higher, but men are not seeking help for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 04:39 AM
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Obviously submitting to rape doesn't imply "being into" submissive sex. "Being into" submissive sex does not equal having sex with someone who has a penis. Submissive sex, in which one person pretends to overpower the other, is simply role-playing submission. The thought of a man thinking his penis makes a woman he has sex with submissive is very unattractive. I'll have to leave it there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 04:30 AM
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It's only submission if you are overpowered and or give up for fear of being hurt etc. If it's with full consent, it can't be submission. The person doing nothing is also acting with agency if they choose to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 03:11 AM
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Men built up modern civilization, the comforts of which you enjoy and take for granted. The men at the top used men as slaves to create and profit from, and used the labor of women (via all that women did to support and birth the paid workforce). Women would have designed just as much of the infrastructure had men not been standing on their necks the whole time and not allowing them to study or work in anything other than basic jobs. So, you claim that men built it all is irrelevant. You are fre…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 03:07 AM
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That makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 01:08 AM
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A backwards society is probably not the best piece of propaganda you could come up with. That makes no sense. Which episode? What was the challenge? Season 3 Bear Grylls The Island. The challenge was to set up a camp and survive. The women did far better than the men. https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/reality-tv/a789241/the-island-with-bear-grylls-sexist-men-seriously-embarrassing-themselves/ The Island shows aren't a good indicator anyway. Grylls is a sexist and purposely chooses men with survival …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 01:07 AM
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The ship analogy holds for women though. She can just lie there while he comes to her and does all the work, if she wishes. A penis goes into the slot, but it's nothing compared to when a baby comes out of that same slot. Penises don't hurt and they bring pleasure. A baby is massive in size in comparison and brings enormous pain. A penis and balls are also vulnerable during sex. The man has to trust the woman won't snap his dick or hurt/cause permanent damage to his balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 12:35 AM
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I didn't mention CEOs. I specifically mentioned people in higher roles in large companies, such as in middle and upper management. The kind of people who get promoted for no good reason and don't have the skills for the job. A CEO is closely scrutinized and their performance measured - they can't get away with what the toads in middle and upper management can.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 12:29 AM
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If I invite my neighbor to park his car in my garage... I have no control over how he does that. A garage can't move or give you an STD. The way a woman moves can snap a guy's dick or cause severe pain or permanent damage to his testicles. She could have a STD. He has to trust her as much as she has to trust him. Yes he is usually physically stronger but the expectation is that he won't hurt her. So, she's not submitting to him. Just as a weaker man who handshakes a stronger man is not submittin…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 12:27 AM
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Most women are turned off at the thought of dating men shorter than them, though. Most men would be turned off if a woman had no breasts and a man's shape to her body. People have certain expectations of what a man looks like and what a woman looks like. Almost every couple has a woman with breasts and a woman's shape and a man that is taller with a man's shape. It's not being shallow. But... many people can and do look beyond biological expectations. Because women that age have babies and quit …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 12:19 AM
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https://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2005/03/18/1326606.htm?site=sc&topic=latest Ross and team's findings show that females are far more variable than previously thought and, when it comes to genes, more complex than men. "The X chromosome is definitely the most extraordinary in the human genome in terms of its inheritance pattern, its unique biology ... and in terms of its association with human disease," says Ross.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/20 12:08 AM
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There are villages in the world right now made of all women. There have been survivor shows in which the women did better than the men, even though they chose a few men with fishing/hunting experience for the show but only one woman with fishing skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 11:59 PM
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The male extracts resources from the woman - babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 09:43 AM
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Question: during a handshake, is the smaller man submissive to the larger man, simply because the larger man is larger? If your answer is no, because there is penetration, consider that for women, the penis is just a craft docking in the mother ship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 09:35 AM
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Why would it? You invited it in and it's only big enough to fit into the space provided.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 09:31 AM
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There have been lots of serial killer women - the reason you don't know about them is that they killed women and children and not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 09:28 AM
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Because women were in love with him despite his crimes and such. Weirdo women, yes. There is a small % of women who are fascinated by men who commit terrible crimes. Such as a young woman who wanted to marry Charles Manson - only so that she could keep his body after he died. Others help men carry out terrible crimes against women and children. There are men fascinated by serial killer women, such as the woman who decided to start killing men. She received lots of fan mail from men after she wen…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 05:58 AM
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Whatever affects you most are the things you tend to focus on. Sexual predators might be few but they tend to affect the lives of huge numbers of women, either via rape or the woman knows someone who was raped. (When rape kits of one country were tested, after decades of being left untested, rapists were found to have targeted multiple women). Women are taught to not be alone at night, not walk at night in dark places etc. It's on a woman's mind a lot when she's alone in an isolated place. Men d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 05:31 AM
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Men have more extreme levels of IQ and conscientiousness. Many people who end up in higher roles with large companies are dumb as a box of rocks - men and women, but usually men. Nothing to do with IQ.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 04:40 AM
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Women say they want egalitarianism, yet they choose men superior to them: men who are taller, earn more and are higher in social status. Most men are taller than most women. That doesn't make the superior. Most men earn more than most women when they are 30+. Far more men than women are higher in social status - which is easier for men to achieve than women, due to managers being more likely to promote men than women. All that being said, most women marry men who are about equal to them to in so…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 03:12 AM
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Couldn't the women just refuse to bang without a condom? Seems like quite the action to me. Men take the condoms out without women knowing. Women could not rely on men to stick to their word. So they knew they needed to control things and ensure pregnancy couldn't happen (which is what men should be doing RIGHT NOW, if they had any sense). The use of condoms is not feasible over the lifetime of a marriage. And many married men woudn't get the snip.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 01:45 AM
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I would also add that, the general availability of cheap birth control was also what allowed feminism to be successful. This is true. Which is why feminists instigated and bankrolled the development of the pill. Instead of whining and complaining, they got shit done.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 01:37 AM
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That... is the biggest load of crap I've ever read. Women were never weak. They were only weaker in brute strength. Women without men would be more than able to protect and provide for themselves. Men took power on the basis of brute strength. And the men who gathered the most resources and power overpowered the vast majority of men and the women. If you're not at the top, you're a slave. That is patriarchy. The 'powers that be' didn't decide for women to enter the workforce. There was a war - W…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 01:34 AM
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lol link?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 01:42 AM
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Yes, I left him just months after the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 09:48 PM
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A lot of Red Pill has to do with men reassessing their changing gender roles and expectations That could be such a positive thing. But at the same time, they try to make out that women are some kind of animals that are tied to nature and all act the same. Which is where rp is a pile of stinking poop. They've taken a sort of CNN morning-show style feel-good girls-club version of feminism where females do no wrong, and men are (at best) something to be ridiculed and (at worst) something horrible t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 12:58 AM
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I don't see them giving him threesomes, anal, or willing to be a side chick like they did for Chad in their 20's. lol. As if all young women do these things. Most are in a relationship with one guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 11:25 PM
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You should be attracted to men who are your own age and up to 20 years older. It's just an RP scientific fact that all women are like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 11:23 PM
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BP refuses to even LOOK at female nature, The past hundred years and more has been a period of deconstructing gender roles and expectations. Much of what was seen as 'nature' was just an adaptation to the whatever society the man or woman found themselves born into. All that RP does is try to ascribe old-fashioned ways of thinking about women onto women. finding out what men are doing wrong THIS TIME If women had been in power throughout history, and not men, women would have been awful to men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 11:14 PM
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Women do not 'shit test' men to test their mettle or any such thing. Some women are just more snappy than others. Many men do exactly the same thing, but rp do not call that 'shit tests'. Women are not the 'oldest teenager in the house'. Most women are not naturally submissive, and there is no man on earth who can make them want to be submissive. Rp totally gets this wrong. AWALT is stupid. Women are variable. What rp stupidly term as 'game' is just a mix of confidence and flirting and boundarie…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 10:31 PM
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Try being at home with small children all day. Being at an office is much saner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 10:24 PM
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It could be the 'grandmother' thing, or it could that the most fragile systems fail first, and the female fertility system is fragile (for the reasons listed in the link in the post I responded to). But I agree that that menopause is a benefit to women, because pregnancy is such a big thing for a body to go through. And yep, grandmothers are great for grandchildren :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 10:22 PM
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Menopause doesn't take women 'out of the game' if the game is life. It's a good thing to stop pregnancies, because a pregnancy takes a big toll on a woman. If 'the game' is fertility then most men are 'out of the game' at older ages, too. Lower sperm production, mutated sperm, erectile dysfunction, enlarged bladder etc. But yes, it seems men are more robust and have more energy than women, in exchange for a slightly reduced lifespan. The difference in lifespan is not huge - a few years at the en…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 11:15 AM
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I don't scream. Also, it's well-known that office jobs are easier, and women know this. Women openly joke that their office job is a 'holiday away from the kids'.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 03:38 AM
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Because you don't get to experience enough of life to know that the person you are marrying is actually the right person for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 03:36 AM
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We are getting way off topic here but if women are strong leaders who can build, create and invent; then why were they unable to overthrow their oppressors? How on earth could they do that when their oppressors were much physically stronger and when most women were getting continually pregnant during all their fertile years??? A slave revolt only works if the slaves are physically equal to the masters. Silly question.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 03:36 AM
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Prefer for what, exactly? Men on dating apps are after sex, and they're also trying for sugar babies. Women on dating apps are usually looking for relationships - therefore you're going to see women going for men their own age or a little older/a little younger. If women are looking for sex, they usually choose men their own age (if they are young themselves) or much younger men (if they are older).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 03:33 AM
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Science says your wrong. By that age womens skin is about 2-3x OLDER. Nope. Science says you are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 03:28 AM
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Dark skin can rock bald heads much better. True.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 03:26 AM
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As a guy, its depressing to be valued as a success object. Actually, men are sex objects, just like women. What men are wanted for is to help make children. Just like what women are wanted for by men. If it makes you feel better, it’s also because of this male thirst that we, as men, often strive for greatness. Untrue. Many women strive for greatness, too. It's just a human thing, outside of sex. The only reason women have done less in history is the restraints of raising children and family lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 11:00 PM
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Look around and take note that almost all of the technology around you - refrigerator, microwave, clock, Internet/computers/phones, etc was invented by a man. Then go walk outside and look around and realize that everything you see was built by a man. Take a minute to let all of this sink in. I look around and ALL I see is what men stole from women. They stole women's human right to do the same things. They stopped women from being able to learn a trade (in guilds) and to attend college and to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 10:50 PM
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Best comment in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 10:34 PM
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Red Pill aware men simply understand female nature That is the biggest problem with rp. They don't understand female nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 10:32 PM
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If she doesn't fuck you by the date 3 she doesn't find you attractive. She would fuck chad after 15 minutes of talking. Spoken by someone who has a limited understanding of women. That's not how women work at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 10:28 PM
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I'm saying some people swap one extreme for another. I said "change is good for the human soul". But playing a role isn't. You're going to end up showing the cracks. 'Who are they hurting?' is an interesting question. Everything you do affects someone. Also everything you don't do. 'Silence is violence' sometimes. My way of thinking is that we need diverse people from diverse backgrounds making decisions for all of us - in the political and social and business spheres. And I can't see how we can…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 05:59 AM
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You are right about individuals. And also about mothers often being happier at home - which is because currently, paid work and raising kids is so difficult to do at the one time. I think it would be best to adapt the workplace for parents who want to engage in paid work, while also making it easier to parents who want to stay at home and raise the kids. And also ensure both men and women are respresented at all levels of business and government.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 05:49 AM
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So an outsider will see it and go "You're turning her into a doormat!" When in reality, they were assholes to their spouse and need to wrangle that in a bit. They aren't likable and need to learn to be likable. It's not the changes, because they can be positive. It's the role playing. It's the same for rp men. They might have considered themselves 'losers' before and wanted to change. But then they found rp and started trying to play a role. Ever seen people reach rock bottom and then become har…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 03:28 AM
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Being a red pill anything means playing a role. Long term, playing roles just can't work. Because the 'people' side of people will always want to break out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 03:25 AM
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I also believe most women would be happier at home with a family while women who would actually be happier as career women are in the minority. The big problem with that setup is that then men make all the decisions in the business and political worlds. And we all know where that got us. Women were extremely unhappy with the wars and the destruction of environment and lack of support for women who needed to get away from abusive spouses. Most women at home and most men in paid work can never wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 03:21 AM
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Virtue signalling You do not know what this term means. A small number of women are ok sharing a man, 'high quality' or not. Some women are just poly. Most women are not ok with sharing. Obviously, you are stuck on using buzz words without knowing what they mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 03:09 AM
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I saved my virginity for marriage. Bad, bad mistake. I'd say to anyone, male or female - don't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 12:23 AM
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Any young girl is attractive and most men voiced they would be happy having any non-fat girl as gf. That's just not true. The truth is that boys and men only notice the slim girls who are also attractive. They just don't notice the others - the others are the girls who grow up dateless and not getting attention from boys. Men could increase their dating pool by dating younger, but are often told not too, and available younger women aren't common. History is made up of men with younger women. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 12:18 AM
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Yes. They do. The people who notice these things profit from it in many different ways. They can profit by looking more 'together' and professional. Here is another way they can profit: https://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/01/how-two-25-year-old-college-dropouts-built-a-watch-company-that-made-60-million-this-year.html
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 12:10 AM
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Not really. No. Not if he's acting creepy. But, your point becomes true when it comes down to 'wanted versus unwanted' attention. If a man asks a woman out in the street, and he seems nice and he's good looking, she might feel flattered. If an unattractive man approaches a woman in the street, she might feel annoyed or even creeped out. But if you swing that around, and men had unattractive women approaching them for marriage but not attractive women, those men would start to feel annoyed and cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 12:06 AM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 12:00 AM
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People look like themselves but you can tell their age, no matter what skin color. Apart from a small number of people, who seem to age slowly. Age in a book matters to the point I was making, which seems to have been lost in all this. That women choose to read about young men in erotica and romance novels.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 12:00 AM
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Of course office jobs are easier. You sit on your butt, you drink coffee, you have lunch without babies crying in your ear, you go to the toilet without children banging on the door, you don't have to wash shit and vomit off diapers and clothing all day, you don't have to carry heavy loads of washing out to the line (while recovering from pregnancy and childbirth), you don't have to lift children all day. Office jobs are fucking easy by comparison. I know. I've had quite a few different office r…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 11:56 PM
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I've done both - office jobs and taking care of two tiny ones all day. The office jobs were way, way easier, both physically and mentally. No contest.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 11:52 PM
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Women don't give a fuck about watches unless they care about money, It's not about money. The watch just shows that the guy has a bit of style and his time is important - he knows how to manage time, in other words.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 07:58 AM
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Which was constantly reframed as them being immature and just some exceptions 'Exceptions' even though that's mostly what you would have seen? Did YOU not care about the attractiveness of girls?? Were you just attracted to personality and not looks? I think a lot of the problem is that women see men as human (being like themselves) and men see women as 'other' (not like themselves) - and that's where men can think all kinds of things about women that are not true. Which in a sense works a lil bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 07:54 AM
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The most visual people are not often the most observant, believe me You do see which guys these girls are with though, no matter what. No analysis needed. What is your point? My point is that you would have seen pretty girls and women with guys who look like Chad. 18 year old me We're not just talking about 18 year olds. We're talking about masculinity as men age. What I said stands. Most men either slowly or quickly lose their peak masculinity after their youth (after age 30). They don't get 'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 04:26 AM
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It's not bad compared to mgtow. On mgtow, they talk about all women as if they are parasites. FDS seem to love and want men. Good men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/20 04:17 AM
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No. Almost no one looks the same from 25 to 35. Anyway, the men's ages are in the actual book. Such as 50 Shades - 27.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 09:43 PM
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Yes, exactly this. I think women don't spend any time separating the two things out. And really, they don't need to. Most women are happy with a solid relationship with someone around their own age. I think the biggest tell are the most popular romance books. If they mostly featured gray-haired men in their 40s and 50s, then we'd know what women objectively find the most physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 07:45 AM
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I just went and read the posts on the first page. I honestly don't know why you're calling those women 'cunts'. The posts look reasonable to me. Which posts did you find disturbing?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 07:36 AM
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Maybe some women don't automatically picture that, because they've been taught not to. But when they go to pick up erotic/hot romance novels (which huge numbers of women do), they buy the books that feature men who are in their early 20s to early 30s. The man in 50 Shades was about 27. There is a reason for that. Biologically, men are at their fittest and more virile at that age and produce the healthiest sperm. So, biologically speaking, he's the best there is. When a woman wants the fantasy of…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 05:44 AM
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The vast majority of men will stick around to raise the child if you don’t run them off. Sure doesn't seem that way. And "run them off" is a strawman excuse. Too many men just slink away or fade out of their kids lives without even trying. The new woman and her kids and the new kids they have together takes up his time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 05:33 AM
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Children growing up without a father is bad for society. They don't have to. Men keep neglecting fatherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 02:14 AM
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Yes, many rich top tier men didn’t follow the rules of the patriarchy. It wasn't just rich men. Almost all husbands had much more access to money than their wives in the past. And there were lots of women without much ability to make a wage. And so ordinary men had the ability to cheat - and they often did.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 02:12 AM
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DNA studies have simply confirmed it. Those studies have simply confirmed women's subordinate place in society and lack of access to the same income as men. Women never want to share a man unless they are polygamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 01:53 AM
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Bottom line is this... women are not particularly opposed to sharing a high quality man. False. They are extremely opposed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 01:51 AM
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This has been posted about eleventy billion times in this forum. All people think all people are most attractive in their early to mid-twenties. (Generally speaking). People are at their peak at that age. When people think of the most attractive specimens of their gender of their choice, they are most likely to imagine someone in their 20s. In terms of relationships, women have considerations that men either don't have or don't think of as much - loss of income while raising kids, pregnancy, chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 01:40 AM
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that's not what people meant by visual. Seeing is observing. 'Visual' does not just mean the male gaze on pretty women, no matter how much rp tries to co-opt the word 'visual'. I saw pretty 18 yo women with pretty 18 yo men. If you didn't notice pretty women older than 18, that's on you, right? True, but that's not how the average man ages. It's how most people age. They have less energy, less motivation, less fat-burning hormones, less everything as they age.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 01:27 AM
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my wife does, and although one had a near miss, she doesn't know anyone who's been raped. Your wife must not have many close friends. People don't trumpet that they have experienced rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 12:01 AM
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All women have that. What is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 11:58 PM
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If a ship goes down and there is only one life boat, it would be filled with women/children. That's not historically true.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 11:57 PM
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There are more old ladies than old men, so you're more likely to come across one Old ladies have more osteoporosis than men (brittle bones) Old men are far less likely to accept help crossing a road Old ladies are more likely to have heavy shopping in their hands, which they are doing for themselves and their husband) who is having a grandpa nap at home. Old ladies are more likely to have hip and pelvis issues, due to years of pregnancy and then osteoporosis. Old men who get to be old men who ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 11:54 PM
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Visual isn't observant. Visual is always observant. That's the nature of it. ou notice the pretty girls going for the pretty boys at 15 years old, but you've been brainwashed since birth. And then you're still told these girls are immature, they'll know better later. But you'd see pretty women in their 20s with pretty men in their 20s. I think it's more a case of some men just don't see what's around them - the same way some women don't. Some women keep jumping into having sex with men and hopin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 11:45 PM
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Most office jobs are way easier than being at home with kids all day. She should get to put her feet up when he gets home, while he does some housework and caring of the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 04:50 AM
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Women tried that. Didn't like it. What it got them was no respect and no way of looking after their themselves and kids if the husband died or left them or cheated and spent his money on his mistress. Lot of women spent their lives raising the kids, only for her husband to leave her once the kids had grown. And then she had nothing. And all many men said is that women lay about all day doing nothing (because many men think housework and kids is not real work). Women said no thanks to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 04:48 AM
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So you do most of the work, and you share the house work? She does more of the child raising. She most probably does far more work than he does during an average day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 04:40 AM
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We are told , it’s about what the inside , be yourself, looks don’t matter. Soooo, did you not care what girls look like, then? If your conditioning was that strong, were you prepared to date a girl who was among the least attractive at school if her personality was fun??
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 10:51 PM
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unattractive men are thought to be creepy sex predators This is untrue. Sex predators are thought to be any man who tries to touch a women sexually without consent or try to rape her - no matter what he looks like. Men are not attractive to a woman are not seen as creepy unless they act creepy - by stalking her etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 10:48 PM
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Men keep telling us that men are more visual than women. Yet, the men here claim not to have noticed pretty girls going for the pretty boys in high school and college. Yet, women notice the pretty boys make a beeline for the pretty girls. Are women the visual ones, after all? And as if boys are "bombarded daily" by the media and teachers etc about girls being like some kind of saints. Oh, fuck off with that. Instead, you're bombarded with ideas of single mothers being terrible people and gold di…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 10:37 PM
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That's insane. All you have to do is look at who girls get with at school, and look at young couples in the street - and then you know. It is BLINDINGLY OBVIOUS. It's exactly how girls know boys like pretty girls. Because they see what is in front of their faces. We keep being told how VISUAL men are. But shit, are they really? If they can't see what is in front of them, how visual can be they really be? Who on earth sends you messages about girls not caring about looks, and why would they do th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 10:31 PM
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Women virtue signal all day and forever that personality and confidence, compatibility, etc. trumps looks. Nope. Looks come first. Everything else comes after that. You have to be attracted to look further. If he's a shitty person, looks won't help, except in the case of some women who have low self-esteem. Men's mistake is in thinking women are not just like themselves. If sex from men was in short supply, women would be thirsty for men, and men would be far, far pickier. It's not about hormone…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 10:26 PM
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You're not comparing apples with apples. Most women don't want to be escorts or sex workers. So its not an advantage for most women. Whereas being laid by hot women is an advantage hot men have that most men would like.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 02:52 AM
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Your questions do not follow from what I said above.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 12:01 AM
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Thanks for the straw man argument. What I said stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 12:00 AM
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I see. These are the figures from your linked study: Women with 10 or more partners were the most likely to divorce, but this only became true in recent years; Women with 3-9 partners were less likely to divorce than women with 2 partners; and, Women with 0-1 partners were the least likely to divorce. The above stats are a direct quote. So, it is definitely not saying what you said. It says that women with 3-9 partners are LESS likely to divorce than women with 2 partners. Interesting, right? Wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 11:38 AM
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I'm not watching a video. If you have proper stats, I'll take a look.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 02:30 AM
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These two are the "coolest" girls ever: The 'Call her daddy' podcast girls. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyGi3eCuxko37WB6uUr7LjA i think these two are a perfect example of women who are going out of their way to be cool girls who are men pleasers. They're also making a lot of money out of it, so at least, in their case, it's not entirely a waste. Usually, such women don't realize what they're doing until they're older, and then it hits them. They were turning themselves inside out to be cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 11:14 PM
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Yep. Exactly that. Sex does not produce warm cozy feelings with a guy you do not want a relationship with. You enjoyed it but you want to go do other things afterward. You don't feel any differently toward him because you had sex with him. But with a guy you love, even sleepy, sloppy sex produces feelings of closeness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 11:03 PM
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Whatever that study says, it's untrue. Sex you had with previous partners is not so important that it stops you from bonding with the right person. Previous sex quickly fades from memory.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 10:58 PM
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If women had that kind of unrestrained sex with men, humans would end. The family unit would not be a thing. It would be a horrible world with no families and no one to care for the children. STDs would be rampant and babies would either be born affected by a STD or die because of it. Even genital herpes can kill a baby. If we all became like this tomorrow, eventually humans would die out. The gay men I know are not having sex in the way you mentioned. They are in committed relationships, and so…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 10:53 PM
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Men don't usually carry firearms about their own homes either. They go and get the firearm and kill their partners. Women could easily go and do the same if they wished. It's the easiest thing in the world to shoot someone in the back point blank. It's very telling that almost no women choose to do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 10:36 PM
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on the level of sexual attraction blue eyes are widely regarded as the most beautiful. Citation? I am not attracted to blue-eyed men. It's only if he is really good looking that I won't mind the fact that he has blue eyes. Brown eyes make me melt. ​ in different cultures, men with long hair are, on average, seen as sexier by women. I haven't seen research on this, either. I do like long nice hair on men. To me, it says he's healthy and he won't get skin cancers on his scalp (as he might if he we…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 06:51 AM
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You are probably right. Men and women do value different things more. I think you might have hit the nail on the head. She is more likely to want things that protect her children and herself - wealth, shelter, solid family unit. He may want these things but might also want power and to be seen as powerful by other men (so, he works longer than he needs to each day, wants attractive women to want him, wants to be praised constantly etc) Men are less likely to worry about shelter/solid family unit…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 06:29 AM
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Women overall also value life overall. They kill their husbands at a much lesser rate than men because taking a life is a tougher line to cross for women. They are the ones to bring life into the world and they hold it as more sacred. It would be easy for a woman to shoot a man if she desired, or knife him in his sleep. Most women don't choose to do that. Men who physically harm women tend to be very verbally abusive as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 06:26 AM
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That is so not what I have seen. I've seen men moaning to their girlfriends/wives that they wished they looked more like some hot girl they just saw. Usually, the guy is drunk - but it cuts the same way in his woman's eyes. Men running back to mommy and telling her that his wife is a bitch. Men telling their wives they haven't done anything all day, when their wife has actually been very busy caring for his kids. Men looking at porn instead of being romantic/sexual with his own wife. That will c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 06:23 AM
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Sigh. When women are not risk-averse and then get raped/assaulted/murdered on a date, men say "Why wasn't she more careful?" or "She should have vetted better". It's an unwinnable conversation. Which means, women cannot win, no matter what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 06:15 AM
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Because she's infatuated/in love and isn't thinking. The risks can still be too high for many women, regardless of how infatuated she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 04:19 AM
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Chances are if a woman goes out shes already decided whether or not shes going to sleep with a guy. All she had to do is pick who. So it's not necessarily you thats special or that she likes. She likes the experience and the way it makes her feel. Yes. If a woman has a one night stand with you she's still using you just for the emotional high. Not necessarily. Sex feels good. Some women are able to orgasm easily and would get a sex high out of a ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 04:17 AM
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I know and I proved it was. You didn't. You couldn't help to make it about women like the typical feminist you are. The push for the change to the law was ABOUT WOMEN not men. You lose this argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 04:13 AM
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I don’t see why “she builds a business empire of her own during the marriage” would even be relevant. Prostitutes gain money purely by selling their body. A wife/husband who makes their own money and doesn't just use their body to stay relevant to their spouse is not prostituting. The Kardashians are the best example of that. What in the actual fuck? I'm not fan of them but they are very smart business people who make their own money and empires.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 04:11 AM
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Women who get carried through life without having to do much simply because they were attractive and married a wealthy man are basically prostitutes because they're exchanging their good looks/bodies for access to that wealth, and that's basically prostitution What if she fell in love with the guy? Mat Damon married a bartender who already had a daughter, but she turned him down when he first asked her out, because she wanted to go home to that daughter. Was she gold digging? I don't think so. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 11:28 PM
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Attractive white guys have NOTHING on the attractive white woman. Of course, people often equate the success of these women to their looks but come on, that's typically the reason as to why they were considered over their peers. Untrue. Less attractive women have an advantage in business. Whereas attractive men have more advantage than other men. https://hbr.org/2019/11/for-women-in-business-beauty-is-a-liability https://www.forbes.com/sites/cherylsnappconner/2014/03/25/new-research-vcs-preferen…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 11:21 PM
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Beauty is a liability for women in business, but an advantage for men: https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/venture-investors-prefer-funding-handsome-men https://www.forbes.com/sites/cherylsnappconner/2014/03/25/new-research-vcs-preference-for-men-persists-and-attractive-males-fare-best/#25eebf1f2122 https://hbr.org/2019/11/for-women-in-business-beauty-is-a-liability You are right that with CEO males, generational advantage and connections etc are most important. But CEOs do tend to be taller, and height …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 11:10 PM
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The white woman (any woman) has to work twice as hard to be seen as half as good as a white male.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 11:00 PM
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Many of them don't think things through at all. They just speak through a filter of biases. And the best way of knowing if a "woman will survive childbirth" is if she has already had a child (although it's still not certain due to how risky childbirth is). But they all want virgins. eyeroll
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 02:20 AM
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How does the world come to them???
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 02:15 AM
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Getting commitment because of good looks is prostitution?? So, all men who get commitment on the basis of how good looking they are are hookers?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 02:09 AM
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The straight, attractive white woman is the most privileged human being on this earth. No, the straight attractive white guy is. He can rise to the top of his profession in ways that are very, very difficult for women to do. And no one will claim that the man rose to the top of the basis of his looks. But if an attractive woman gets promotions, the accusation is often leveled at her that she got there on the basis of her looks. She is far more likely to have partners turn toxic after a breakup a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 02:06 AM
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here are plenty of reasonable PPD men who aren't edgy black pillers or incels. You are vastly outnumbered.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 12:03 AM
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Biology does give women that choice its called abortion. That's not a natural process. It's not 'biology'. You don't understand the subject. Will not debate this further.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 12:00 AM
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So? The post I responded to said it was feminists. In your rush to be "smart" you missed that. Of course you had to pull a whataboutism. You misunderstand the term whataboutism. What I said was directly connected to the subject at hand. The legislation wanted by the activists was because of what had just happened to a woman who was attacked by a group of men. What I was saying is that while I don't understand the exact effects of the wording of the law, I do know that these activists wanted mons…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 11:59 PM
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Like you said biological differences mean men have no choice and the only option is to leave. Men have the choice not to have sex or to pull out before coming - BIOLOGICALLY. Women get a chance to fix their mistakes due to biology. Men don't. WTF?? No, biology doesn't give women that choice. Once sperm is in the body, they have no choice on where it goes and what it does. Once a baby is growing, they have no choice in the matter. We cannot include modern treatments and surgery in BIOLOGY. Biolog…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 02:49 AM
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Nope. There were a lot of women who pretended to be the woman in the photo. But only one was the real woman and she hated the kiss. She was confirmed as being the correct women, as in the article i linked.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 02:44 AM
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It said 'female activists' not any feminist organization. And it was triggered by an incident in 2012, when a young woman was savagely raped by a group of men on public transport, until they murdered her. Huge numbers of Indian women were outraged after that brutal murder, and rightly so. Not all of them will have been feminists. I do think that male victims should be included in rape laws and that women can be offenders. I don't know why the activists wanted the change to the law. But it seems …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 02:42 AM
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Men judge based solely on looks anyway so it's much easier for them to deem someone attractive on a dating app than for a woman. The only time people - men or women - judge only on looks is when looking for sex. When looking for a serious relationship, both men and women judge on a number of things. Women will also find you attractive if you can make up for your bad looks with wealth and high social status and so on. No, they won't. Wealth will never make up for 'bad looks', except for gold digg…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 01:52 AM
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Nah. When it works, it works. Because the two people are just nice, easygoing people, that's all. Lots of people with personality disorders out there. You won't know until you live with them, but after you do, they wont be able to hold back their crazy for long. You'll keep telling yourself they're just stressed due to circumstances and you'll keep forgiving. Until you realize they have a disorder and you leave, shattered. But then you meet someone who is like you, but you don't totally trust th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 12:03 AM
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lol yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 11:36 AM
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Any man who hung around the rp forums is of low value. Any intelligent woman can suss out an rp man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 11:36 AM
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What's really going to bother you later is this: You'd never know if he is or isn't. I most definitely would. You weren't talking to me but I'll pipe up anyway. It's laughable to think you don't think women who know of the red pill can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 11:33 AM
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It’s like they have no idea what dating is like for the average guy. They don't. Just like men don't know what dating is like for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 11:26 AM
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cafe free Awww why do women need to be cafe free? I'm quite partial to a good cafe. This is what is meant when people say relationships are “work” I used to believe this, back when I was in bad relationships. Now I know that a bad relationship is generally because one of those people is just shitty. If you get two reasonable, nice people together... the relationship is just going to work all by itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 11:23 AM
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In India for example feminists fought against a law that would include male victims of rape. Citation?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 11:15 AM
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Feminists are always trying to tell men it's ok to cry. It is. Remember the campaign against manspreading? It's selfish and rude and is not 'alpha' in any way. Women do it, too with their handbags. Ever heard the criticism of the WW2 picture of the sailor kissing the woman? Nope. But the criticism sounds correct. This is what that woman herself said about that kiss: "It wasn't my choice to be kissed", Friedman stated in a 2005 interview with the Library of Congress.[3] "The guy just came over an…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 11:01 AM
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It's not a double standard. It's one of those things that can never be perfectly even between men and women because of the very different biology. Men can't get pregnant. Women can. Men really need to ensure they take of what happens to their own bodies, including the sperm that comes out of it. Women need to take care of what happens to their own bodies, including a pregnancy. Women should not be able to say a man cannot use a condom or cannot get a vasectomy. If he wants to protect his sperm f…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 10:56 AM
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I prefer low-effort men :) My guy didn't use much effort. It was me who spoke to him first. We started out as friends and remained like that for the first three months. It was only after we started dating that he put in effort, and he still does, years later. He's a gem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 10:51 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBluePill/comments/2nj2ed/my_compilation_of_posts_on_why_trp_is_sexist_and/ Especially the highlight reels.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 10:47 AM
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So, it's best for women to block 'high effort' men too? (the men using game, who are all high effort)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 04:38 AM
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Hardly any men here will understand this. Makes too much sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 03:30 AM
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Oh for the love of pete. I'm a feminist. What you just said does not even make sense. Feminists are not a herd mind, but most would not even think in terms of alphas and betas. Why on earth do you imagine feminists do not want underconfident men to learn to be more confident if the men think it would help them in life? 'Revealing beta status' is not a thing, I promise you. You've had too much brainwashing from these forums.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 03:29 AM
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So basically guy meets girl and they exchange phone numbers She already thinks he's hot and he knows it. He then tries a kiss that is half-prank, half-kiss because she is talking on camera. The kiss could have gone badly or could have gone well, but it had every chance of going well because she already gave him her phone number. It's unlikely that she would have found the kiss assault because she has agreed to a date with him. I'm guessing she looked very happy about exchanging numbers at the ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 03:17 AM
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I can imagine it is. So the only option is condoms. Also, I find it hard to understand why men aren't banding together to fund the development of a good male contraceptive. It would be a game changer for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 11:23 PM
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I do not know what FDS even posts about. I don't go there. But I do know what the red pill posts about. And it's vile. So, I'm saying it says a lot to talk about FDS in that way while letting rp off the hook.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 11:21 PM
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I don't think it's rare at all to not think of virgin men as 'virgins' or incels. They are men just like other men. The act of putting a penis in a vagina doesn't confer any special abilities or changes in a man. The state of virginity is losing all impact in our modern world. Women do not care about for themselves in the way they used to. I understand that not having had sex is a much bigger issue for men because of the way society views masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 11:20 PM
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No, women didn't have the same rights as men in the olden days. He could run away while she had to go away and hide in shame until she had the kid, and then struggle to raise it - or she adopted it out and lived with guilt and depression afterward. Again, if he doesn't protect himself from pregnancy, he consents to becoming a father. Because the place where he deposits his sperm can grow a baby. She consents to becoming pregnant by not using contraception. But the place where a baby can grow is …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 11:14 PM
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commonly accepted and statistically correlated epithets like "women like assholes" Red pill bile.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 11:31 AM
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One of my "setbacks" in terms of physical attractiveness is that I'm a critter! Could be the best thing to seek women who really like hairy guys. There are also women who'll see past it if everything else is good (source: a hairy guy friend of mine who is with a lovely tall blonde - who is now also my friend.)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 11:27 AM
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what TRP calls "Monk Mode. Seems terpers don't practise this as they are all angry, bitter little people. What I'm trying to say is that anyone who is having trouble in life, and seeks refuge in these subreddits because it's a safe-haven from reality, really should re-evaluate their views and potentially distance themselves from their own confirmation bias. You might realize that the real world doesn't exactly ring as true as it seems to in the cyber-world. This is true. The best thing that anyo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 11:24 AM
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Your reasons are piss-poor. But anyway. If you get into an argument with any woman she will call you an incel. I have never once called a man an incel. Not here or anywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 11:19 AM
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Running out on a woman who doesnt want an abortion is the only rights a man has legally. So theres nothing wrong with it. That's right, he can legally run out on her. There is no law to stop him. He can legally go onto tinder and try to knock up yet another woman. Men cannot consent to being a father. Yes they can. They can choose not to wear a condom. Or if they don't want to wear a condom, they can choose not to get a vasectomy. By not doing those things, he consents to becoming a father.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 11:18 AM
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Don't even get me started about the chicks posted on tinder while they are 4 months pregnant WTF Don't even get me started about the men who are posting on tinder while their wives and girlfriends are pregnant or when they've just run out on a woman they got pregnant. WTF.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 07:11 AM
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Bad 'science'. Many who come here do not post in or subscribe to other forums. Meaning that this cannot tell you if the majority of women here use FDS. It seems you posted this because you are against the women here and also FDS. I notice you call them "toxic men-hating FDS chicks" but simply refer to the red pill as 'red pillers'. Someone get me a bucket.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 07:04 AM
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Trust me, I'm getting it exactly right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 11:55 PM
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Care to be more specific? Vibrators. Penises. Tongues. I don't know how to be any more specific than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 11:55 PM
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I gave no one my youth. I was busy being lonely, building myself up and avoiding suicide. So she can be sure that she is getting the best I ever gave. I stated the question was philosophical not personal. I don't want her youth just because youth. I want the same that her previous partner's got. If she never gave her youth to anyone, then she is ok. Youth is fleeting. Young people do not think they are in possession of a treasure that they need to parcel out carefully. And a person with low self…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 11:53 PM
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You cared. You responded to the post. Honey.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 11:41 PM
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Because the end result is a good one. Just like an orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 11:40 PM
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False equivalency. There’s nothing that says you can’t enjoy sex without being a slut. Women who enjoy sex for its own sake are either termed sluts or non-existent - that is the point she was making. Points like that go way over the heads of many of the guys here in PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 09:57 PM
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The argument is that women are less likely to have sex for its own sake. And the argument is a bad one. Just sayin'.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 09:52 PM
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I like to ride my bike. But not so much if I'm going nowhere. I need a destination. Exercise bikes are a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 09:51 PM
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Really? I thought a "slut" was someone who had casual sex with many partners. You'd be hard pressed - I think - to find anyone who thought a woman who enjoys sex with one partner was a slut. A woman who enjoys sex for its own sake is either a slut or she doesn't exist. Red pill 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 09:51 PM
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lol. The fact you can't understand her post says a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 09:47 PM
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And that is PPD and the entire red pill philosophy in a nutshell. Going by the way rp'ers think, they must reallllllyyyy think women have some bizarro relationship going on with their vibrators. Because women never seek orgasms for the sake of it. No! Never! Nuh uh. It's always for some deep, twisted reason known only to men in the hallowed halls of red pill subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 09:46 PM
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She gave her youth to her previous partners? Then I hope she has some leftover for me because if she doesn't that would make it impossible for her to give me her best. Are you giving your youth to her, too? Because the older you get, the less youth you have to give. Or will you still be trying to get women's youth when you have none left yourself? (When you're past 30). I know that you personally are partnered, so that's just a philosophical question. ​ Now when it is my turn either I get the ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 09:35 PM
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That hasn't stopped the men of history. They probably either used spit or just pushed in anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 09:24 PM
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Yeah well, you do you. I'll do me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 11:41 AM
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Almost all the replies are agreeing with the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 08:59 AM
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A 24 year old virgin? Who has been with the guy for 3 years without sex? Something is wrong here. All that aside, women like to know a guy has a good sex drive. For evolutionary reasons. Because a woman with a low sex drive can still get preggers. But a man with a low sex drive has a big problem in getting a woman pregnant. If he can't get an erection, if he rarely wants sex or if he is actually gay - then sex isn't going to happen and neither are babies. Also, everyone who waited for sex with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 08:56 AM
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See with your mind then ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 08:40 AM
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Women are not naturally serially monogamous. They are only this way because it has traditionally been the only way they and their children can survive. Female sexuality is polygamous. They don't see attractive men in an "objective, dry way" lol. You know nothing about how women think. A woman is totally capable of having sex with one man while being in love with another. But it's a choice. If you want a stable happy family life, you won't seek sex with another man. Everything in life is a choice…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 12:39 AM
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since you said it’s women who are religious who don’t cheat <—- your own words No. I responded to your comment about cheating being "less likely". I didn't say religious women never cheat. As for your studies, yes, that goes along with what I think. Some people are just more likely to cheat. Being a virgin at marriage doesn't matter. But also, some people make a decision to cheat or not cheat and override their background/genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 12:34 AM
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It doesn't matter if they're psychotic; when their psychosis causes them to do something monstrous they are tossed in a hole forever. You are comparing apples with oranges. Pregnancy and birth are short-term events in a woman's life. They can produce overwhelming and extreme short-term effects on the woman's brain, and while in this state, she has a newborn in her care that doesn't even let her sleep. She can become so psychotic she hallucinates and sees demons or whatever and doesn't know who s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 12:29 AM
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Exactly what I said. For example, look at the response to covid19 from female leaders of countries around the world. I think all have steered their countries through it with minimal loss of lives, with a clear and strong focus, and a plan for the road out of restrictions. Many countries with male leaders are in a total mess. That because of short-term thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 12:13 AM
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Are you suggesting that it should be the expectation that men should sacrifice their career ambitions and instead dedicate their efforts towards more domestic duties typically upheld by women? That's exactly what men expect of women. What if men don’t want to sacrifice their career ambitions just so things are more “fair”? What if women don't want to sacrifice their career ambitions just so that men can get ahead in their careers? No one is forcing women to have children. They have a choice - a …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/20 12:09 AM
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Yes, almost all. Whether it's the first marriage or second or third. After divorce, the member of the couple who didn't look after themselves often settles with someone who is less attractive than their former spouse and looksmatched to themselves - but they're happier, so it doesn't matter. Although, I do know one guy who wasn't happy after divorce. He divorced his wife (he wanted a different life) and seemed to think that he could easily pick up a younger, prettier woman on online dating, as i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 11:53 PM
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TRP gives women the tingles that they crave. In their own minds and fake field reports. In reality, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 03:07 AM
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There is no part of TRP that is specifically about “giving women what they want” or “being beneficial to women”. Truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 03:05 AM
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Women don't have full economic freedom - far from it. Women are still the ones to bear the brunt of being the main ones to raise the children. Therefore they are not equal to men economically. Women don't have social freedom. It's still not safe for them to walk around at night in the same areas that are almost completely safe for men. They don't have the same sexual freedom as men. Women are expected to pump artificial hormones into their bodies from 15 to 50 as contraception. These hormones da…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 03:03 AM
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The sexual revolution and its consequences has been a disaster for the human race The disaster for the human race happened way before the sexual revolution. We call it 'the industrial age' - which put the human race on a fast track to an extinction event. The sexual revolution is the only thing that allowed a change in this path. Women became more assertive and questioned everything men were doing. The 60s was the start of people trying to save the environment from humans. Thank fuck for that. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 02:58 AM
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If course they excuse the terrible things women do as the result of mental illness. Are you serious? Look up "post partum psychosis". It's hormonal and caused by a pregnancy or birth. It can be the same as any full-blown episode of mental illness, except far worse because she has a newborn in her care. It can include mania and hallucinations. Postpartum depression can also be extremely severe, too and is also hormonal. It's an illness that causes extreme disturbance in the brain. It's not an exc…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 02:53 AM
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Only if they are religious. Otherwise, no. Virginity places no special boundaries on a relationship - all people were virgins once.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/20 02:31 AM
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There’s this book about handmaidens that should give you a sense of what a productive society looks like. Ok, so this is a troll post. I thought as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 03:03 AM
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No because women aren't men. They are serially monogamous, not polygynous. That's what men think. ALL people are actually polygamous. Women try to stick to monogamy for the sake of children and for the sake of building something meaningful for the future, because women are long-term/big picture thinkers. ​ If she found someone else attractive enough to cheat with, she no longer finds you attractive. Untrue! Women see men attractive enough to cheat on their partners with every single day. The rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 03:02 AM
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It’s possible for a man to be a great husband and lover to his wife, a great father to his children, all the while seeing a paramour to meet his baser needs. No, it never was and never will be. Men who do that can never be complete fathers and husbands. He will never, ever be a "great husband". Instead, he's just a pile of shit. His wife will never love him in the way she could if he had not cheated on her. The 'great men' of history are mostly a myth, as they were created by enormous privilege …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 02:56 AM
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I agree with your sentiment, except that virgin women aren't a guarantee of no cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 02:51 AM
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First off, women are not "fine with cheating". That's a lie no one believes. Alimony isn't a thing in most places anymore. And many couples are too poor for alimony to have much effect anyway. Even when couples both work, the woman is usually the one to take years off to have babies and care for them. She usually has a lower paid job than her spouse. And if she leaves, then she is in a terrible position financially. He can keeping on working and advancing his career and meeting other women. Whil…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 01:23 AM
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If so, why don't you educate like-minded men to go live on an island with you? Would solve all your problems. No pesky lying, hateful, crazy women to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 01:15 AM
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Some are married, some not. All with kids. Yeah, I get you. Hard to untangle a life built with another person and upend the kids. But the problem is if he keeps doing it (and he's more likely to if he's done it once) and then the marriage falls apart anyway years later, - then it's harder on the kids. If the kids are under 5, they seem to accept change more readily because they're not as aware. I feel for anyone going through it and I know everyone makes different decisions based on lots of diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 01:14 AM
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Yes, more women than men - because women are still at economic disadvantage compared to men. But I think it's still true that more women than not would end a relationship if she knew her man was cheating on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 12:47 AM
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I dismiss what women say because they’re lying. Their actions disprove their words. Why are you here posting then? If you think women are all lying then you are not debating in good faith. Go to an all-male forum and talk in an echo chamber.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 06:52 AM
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Yes he cooked. Yes he kept his room clean. Yes his parents were good people. And that's all I'm prepared to answer. Very hard to vet someone who is a liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 06:30 AM
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These days, I think a man is more likely than not to get his ass dumped if he cheats on his wife/girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 06:27 AM
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Forgive, yes - from a distance. Because I'd be long gone. If he happened to fall in love with another woman but didn't take it any further out of his love and respect for me, I could maybe work through that. You can't help falling in love - it's not a choice. But once his penis has entered another woman's vagina, that's it, I'm out the door. Having sex is a definite choice. And he would have made the wrong one. I'd forgive, but I wouldn't stay and I'd never get back together with him. I don't re…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 03:11 AM
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women don’t tie their value to men’s sexual interest in them the way men do. Men take their women cheating on them as rejection of them as men. I don't see this as true. I think women would be much more likely to forgive emotional cheating than sexual cheating. Once his dick has gone in another woman's vagina, she no longer wants that dick in her life. His dick now seems diseased to her. Cheating feels as much like rejection to women as it does to men. I know there are studies on this which say …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 03:05 AM
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I don't think that is true. It's just that women of the past were not able to divorce easily due to financial reasons. Even when women stayed with their cheating spouses, most couldn't get past the fact he'd had sex with another woman. It's the ultimate betrayal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 03:01 AM
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Usually, people get married because they want to have children and want to have them within a marriage. The rest is a lot of tradition which is slowly being put to rest. Such as her agreeing to 'obey him' in the vows.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 10:45 PM
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Because it feels good is the primary reason. It can also happen for other reasons, such as the sympathy shag, in which she has sex with him because he wants it and she doesn't, but because she loves him, she feels sorry for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 10:43 PM
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Some people pretend to be who they are not in order to get a ring on your finger. That was true of my ex-husband. Talking wouldn't have helped. He didn't live up to the things that he said he believed in either - and we did talk extensively about those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 10:41 PM
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Why wouldn't I choose someone who seemed to be kind, considerate and willing to cook and clean? How could I possibly know, at my very young age, that this person would swiftly change after the walk down the aisle? Of course, he didn't actually change. He was simply pretending to be what I wanted in order to get the ring on my finger.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 10:38 PM
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What in the world??? When it comes to sex, the number one reason women have it is because sex feels good. It's not to get something or keep something. For your equation to work, women would not be equipped with the ability to have orgasms. Because women are equipped with that, your equation cannot work. Sex isn't a reward that women give men. But a sexual relationship does benefit from romantic efforts. Kindness and love go a long, long way. How I know this? I've been with my partner for 8 years…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 05:08 AM
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Yes, there are elements of truth, because a lot of red pill is mainstream: build boundaries, work out with weights, dress well, make money and make smart financial decisions etc. But the other parts of the red pill are cringey. Therefore, it seems that if you go along with it, you must have the wool pulled over your eyes. Just like with any cult. But each to their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 04:57 AM
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Sounds fair. She can buy her own ring. No rule that says you have to buy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 04:54 AM
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Not about housework, no. But why would you expect someone to change overnight just because you got married?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 04:53 AM
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Very well. I see 'reds' as having the wool pulled over their eyes. So, your comments in this thread surprised me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 07:47 AM
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:)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 07:46 AM
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But by having a prerequisite that she take your name, you are not compromising, and maybe you are showing you are not willing to make compromises.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 07:45 AM
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Does that mean you insist on paying her way the rest of the marriage, as per tradition?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 05:07 AM
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I don't want to spend the rest of my life trying to explain to others that I'm not a giant vagina. Soooo she's gotta spend the rest of her life explaining she's not actually a dick?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 05:04 AM
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Going by that logic. she should take your name and you should take her name. Which means a hyphenated last name you both share.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 05:02 AM
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Hell, I changed my own surname in my mid-twenties to my mom's maiden name since she mostly raised me herself. That's really sweet. I bet your mom liked that gesture.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 04:55 AM
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You seem very self-aware. Shame you're red.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 04:53 AM
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It's nothing to do with submission. It's tradition. Some people come from families that are more traditional than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 04:52 AM
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I took my husband's name. I was a virgin and very young. The name meant nothing except tradition. I kicked his ass to the kerb a year later. The man was not willing to lift a finger around the house, yet used to help me clean my room when I was still living at my parents' house (before we married). I then dumped his name.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 04:51 AM
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No, it isn't because "men aren't doing it". It's because women are people and like to achieve much the same things as men do in life. It's how it always was. Some men find that concept difficult. It's not masculine to achieve or to work or to lead. It's part of being human.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:34 AM
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It doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 09:31 AM
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They literally advocate meaningless sex. Not that the vast majority of them get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 01:27 AM
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Women were brainwashed to think they should be submissive. What we are seeing is now is women starting to be themselves. About time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 01:26 AM
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Men should lead us to a better state of being, its their responsibility as the more dominant sex Men have no responsibility to lead, nor should they. They might try to dominate, but they shouldn't. And women, overall, do not want them to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 01:24 AM
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I don't see rp men as the best of masculinity. Huddling in an internet forum and bitching about women is not the worst of masculinity, but it's certainly not among the best. ​ This is where TRP comes along. TRP is as much about forging a strong-minded man as it is about being attractive to women. Trp is about men getting sex from women. In reality, it's a support forum for men who hate women but still want sex from them. That's not attractive to women. If you think it is, you're delusional. Trp …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 01:21 AM
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RP gives women what they actually want They think they do. What they actually do is whine and bitch. No woman wants an rp man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 11:24 PM
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You're right. It's pointless. Crazy how they think 'good women' are submissive without ever considering why the women of some countries/places are forced to act that way. Terps think it's about 'values' and femininity, but it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 11:19 PM
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“Women will just stop having male babies” hahah that will show them! That wasn't a haha. I said that wasn't ideal. But I could see it happening in your scenario because women would be forced to. If a large number of men no longer wanted to work and pay taxes, then women would have to start giving birth to the gender who will. Dude, women can train as mechanics and carpenters. And if we mostly had women in the population, none of us would need saving from "bad men". Heaven. Men.. if all men took …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:03 AM
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Just wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:00 AM
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Like it or not you need men for everything.. And men need women for everything, too. Women, because they are the ones to get pregnant, have been kept under men's boots since the start of civilization. Now that women do not have to get pregnant if they don't want, men can't push them around and harm them like they used to. Some men find the idea of that hard. Because to them, women are supposed to be under men's control. If most men drop out, all that will happen is that women will be forced to c…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 03:27 AM
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It's not feminine or submissive. It's called "poverty". Those countries are dealing with severe economic challenges. The same women would not be submissive if they had the freedom to truly express themselves. They are just playing a role, due to poverty and being forced to act in certain ways for that they and their children survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 03:19 AM
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The pb is not here and shows that you dont understand. The pb is that even if the women bear the child 9 month, she has the choice to keep it, give up her motherhood or abortion. The man has no word to say. I do understand. And I know it sucks for the man who didn't want the baby. But if we say that men do not have to bear ANY consequences, then what we're saying is that the cost and trauma and health issues of contraception and pregnancy are ALL on women. Men can run about fancy free and sticki…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:18 AM
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You obviously have no idea what women go through. Period pain isn't a choice and is nothing like 'salt in your piss'. It's a serious pain. Getting an erection or getting laid is as much an accomplishment as a woman having sex. I'm just saying that her effort to have sex is far greater than his. Her spend on making herself attractive, and her cost and health issues due to contraception. Men have no fucking idea. You have to work to survive, so 'making good money' is just what people do. Women inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 11:08 AM
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Being unkempt and abusive is known to be unappealing to most people. Male feminists are not known to be unappealing to most women. They are just men who believe women and men should hold equal rights as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 03:12 AM
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It's not irrelevant. It's crucial to the future life of the man who had unprotected sex with a woman. He does not know how she'll react to a pregnancy. Therefore, he needs to safeguard himself. Why is that so hard???!!! I wish that we had such good, safe contraception for men and women that abortion was never again needed. Currently, contraception isn't safe or good for women. And yes, very rarely, condoms break. If women cannot get non-medical abortions, we'll go back to the days of men punchin…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 12:58 AM
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Yes, accurate. The biological point of sex is procreation. It would be fantastic if we had external indicators of when a woman is fertile or not fertile, but for some evolutionary reason, that insight wasn't granted to us. So we have to make decisions based on not letting a pregnancy happen in the first place, which is best for everyone involved. Men who complain about this don't seem to realize what would happen if they spread the word, like you are, and men all used protection. There wouldn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 12:52 AM
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It proves that statement wrong because it cannot be said they are woman repellent. They might be repellent to some women. But then, rp kind of men are repellent to many women, so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 12:44 AM
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Yes, that's wrong. I'd suggest that men protect themselves by wearing condoms or getting the snip - and rallying for male contraception. Women have been the victims of men promising to 'pull out' or taking off their condom without her knowing since forever. And yes, it's all wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/20 12:43 AM
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Thank you. I appreciate your interest in my status as a cunt.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 11:01 PM
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My worldview is pretty mainstream. Doesn't look as if it's falling apart to me. As if some cherry picked "data" on PPD is going to disturb me in any way, shape or form.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 11:00 PM
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I can change my own lightbulbs. He is amazing in his kindness, love and personality. We are as passionate about each other as we were in the first months of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 10:58 PM
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The pill can fail. If she has a stomach bug or happens to take a herbal medication/prescription medicine that accidentally stops the pill from working or she simply forgets. Why don't men get together and fund a proper pill for themselves??? That would fix their problem. Oh, so you think a male pill would kill male libido? Did you know it kills female libido for far too many women? And if it doesn't kill it, then it dampens it and can even give her thrush and make sex painful. Men can't get preg…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 10:44 PM
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She can't abort if she doesn't believe in abortion or if the pregnancy causes her to believe she can't go through with an abortion. She will literally feel she has no choice. Men can't get pregnant, so it's easy for them to stand on the sidelines and jeer and tell women what they should or shouldn't do, or what they should or shouldn't believe. Much easier for men to use a condom right at the start and avoid fatherhood for himself and avoid putting her in the position where she has to deal with …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 10:39 PM
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She has the periods, the period pain, the worry of getting pregnant, the high expense of cosmetics and hair salons in order to look good, the courting game in which she subtly pursues men (and lets them think they caught her). She also usually takes the hormonal birth control pills that fuck up her hormones and cause her health issues. What do men have in contrast to all that??? Simply buying and using a condom? Yes, that is his job.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 10:36 PM
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He was just saying that the general consensus among women is that the men on PPD are unattractive men who can’t get laid I disagree with that, too. I think the general consensus among women here is that most of the red-pilled men hate women for whatever reason - and the rest of the red pillers are very young (and influenced by rp) or they have some condition (such as aspergers) that make negotiating the dating world harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 10:31 PM
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I must be a weak cunt, because I've been scared away.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 04:23 AM
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But it takes 2 to tango. Yes it does. But he can't get pregnant. She can. And once his sperm is in her body, she has to deal with the consequences. So he needs to ensure his sperm does not enter her body unprotected.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 04:21 AM
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I enjoyed our debates, disagreements, arguments, too. My ass is stinging from that door. I'm just throwing in this comment from outside the window of the purple house. (That window sill sure needs cleaning by the way. The opinions in PPD must be far too dusty and covered in spiderwebs). I'll only be yelling out my erudite opinions from the window when I happen to be cycling past on my trusty bicycle. I won't walk back in that door though. Never another OP from me. I'm out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 04:20 AM
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Becoming pregnant might not have been her choice, and having the baby might not be her choice either. If she doesn't believe in abortion or can't go through it, that is not a choice - it's a life-altering event that has been thrust upon her (by his penis).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 04:09 AM
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He should make sure a baby doesn't happen. The other part, about money, I'm not sure of, but it seems very wrong to make her pay and make society pay. Becoming pregnant might not have been her choice, and having the baby might not be her choice either - if she doesn't believe in abortion or can't go through it. That is not a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 04:08 AM
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I've never used the term 'incel' in a derogatory way - if at all. I don't like the term. But incels are mainly very young guys, right? Why would they be fat slobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 04:05 AM
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Yes. I haven't seen the slob posts though. Not saying they're not there. Can only call what I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 04:04 AM
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Who said PPD men are all fat slobs? I thought most were rp'ers, hence gym junkies. My view of most PPD men (not all) is simply "women haters".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 01:22 AM
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There are reasons there are not that many blues as opposed to reds and purples.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 01:13 AM
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It takes “two to tango”, but it take a woman to choose to abort, or give birth, to the baby. The man has to live with the consequences for the second decision the woman makes. She can only get pregnant if he puts sperm inside her vagina. No other way. He has the choice not to put his sperm there. She does not have the choice of pregnancy happening. She does not have full control over whether his sperm reaches one of her eggs. Her birth control can fail. Or his telling her that he will pull out i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 01:09 AM
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Of course. But why does he have to pay for her choice? It was his own choice to have sex without protection. And then SHE is left to deal with the consequences. Of course he should pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 01:02 AM
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Yes, that's where I'm at. Giving up on this sub. The circlejerking game is strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 12:56 AM
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male feminists are woman repellent My guy is a male feminist. Have been together now for 8 years. He's amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 12:55 AM
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The more a sub edits posts and comments the more of a circlejerk it becomes. I'm finding PPD a circlejerk. I've stopped posting OPs because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 12:54 AM
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I don't think that's it. Women are more likely to internalize things. Men are more likely to externalize. It's more about each gender's position in society and what they think they should be getting by virtue of their gender and the history of that gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 12:48 AM
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Except that far more repetitive and really stupid rp OPs get through and blue pill OPs that are deemed too different & challenging often get deleted by mods. Which is a big reason why the forum is soooo lopsided and stupid. And the blues either leave or don't bother posting OPs because of it, further causing the lopsidedness. Purge weeks just shine an ugly light on it, with pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/20 12:45 AM
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It wasn't semantics, it was logistics. Women design sex toys now. They will design them in the future, logically. We might not have enough women in robotics to actually do the grunt work, but they'll be designing how the robots operate, their language, their functionality, the moral limits etc
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 02:09 AM
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The vast majority of women are not scared by the idea of robots. Because most women would reject any guy who wants to keep a sex bot at home, and would find guys who wouldn't consider a bot, or just live on their own. If sex bots become a really big thing, then it's going to get weird for everyone. As many women as men would have a sex bot. If a vibrator is enough for women to get off with (which it is) then a male sex bot could certainly be programmed to get her off. But women could still have …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 11:40 PM
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Sex robots would be just toys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 11:28 PM
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During purge week, that book exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 11:21 PM
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Some men pay to have sex with men. You've still got options.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 11:18 PM
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Turned into? This is how it is ALL THE TIME. Just without pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 11:17 PM
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Depends how many and which STDs he picks up along the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 08:18 AM
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That was the citation, my dude. From the big book of scientific knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 08:15 AM
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yuppers!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 08:06 AM
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Yup!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 03:31 AM
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haha
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 11:28 PM
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It's not black and white. If my guy did those things to me, it would be abuse, because I wouldn't want him to do or say them. Another woman might think those things are fine. But if he is manipulating the woman to agree to things she doesn't want to agree to, it's abuse. If she is mentally/emotionally ill because she was sexually abused as a child etc, and the guy is taking advantage of that, that's where shades of gray come in. She might feel that she needs very rough sex to feel anything, beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 09:24 PM
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I too like to abuse women, especially when they want it themselves. The only way you can abuse someone who "doesn't want it" is if you are committing a criminal offence. The only way you can abuse someone who "wants it" is if that person is mentally or emotionally ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 09:10 PM
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I can raise a slave from birth to want and enjoy his own abuse. The human spirit is more complex than you understand it to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 09:05 PM
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Wrong. Too much casual sex does this to a man's penis: https://www.sciencephoto.com/media/780964/view It gets smaller and smaller until it drops off. Science.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 09:02 PM
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They do shrivel from too much casual sex. Without medical intervention, this is the natural result: https://www.sciencephoto.com/media/780964/view
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:57 PM
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I, too, am swimming in vagina. If so, you have been transported far beyond micro-dick status. You have become a sperm cell. Congrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:47 PM
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100% valid and certified science. From the big book of scientific knowledge: "A pencil is new and fit for purpose straight from the pack. But after many uses and being ground down in the pencil sharpener, it becomes less and less. Until it has been ground down so far that a new pencil is required. Pencils and penises are similar in this way."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:44 PM
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There's a reason we don't listen to women when it comes to dating advice. I'm not giving you dating advice. Or any advice. Men who listen to twerper men end up down the garden path, because twerper men give fake field reports to make themselves feel better. and gain rp brownie points. The advice that is useful is already out there in the mainstream, which twerps have just stolen. but to discount men who consistently work to keep themselves attractive to women is peak women logic. I'm not discoun…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 08:38 PM
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would you prefer if they gave up whined like incels? RP whine like little angry red pimples on a sweaty butt.... so what's the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 06:10 AM
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That lock/key analogy perfectly explains this real world truth. Nope. Because women do not operate as locks. Women are already unlocked for the kind of men they want and pursue. Men who imagine that men use keys that unlock women are plain stark raving nuts who do not understand women at all (such as clueless red pillers). Men do not have keys. Women are already unlocked. Men do not "pursue and successfully attract". That's laughable. Men attract by doing nothing - the first glance at them will …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 06:05 AM
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A pencil that has been in many pencil sharpeners is worn down and useless. Avoid.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 03:02 AM
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I feel as if I should be paid for reading that post.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 02:54 AM
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Women try to argue like men and don't realize how fortunate they are because their male counterparts just gets called a bitch and has no one to whine to because nobody cares. lol lol lol lolly lolz lol Men have had each other to whine and bitch to throughout history. Him (with a heavy sigh): it's my wife's time of the month. Batten all hatches. Men: you poor bastard Him: that woman tried to argue with me. Hysterical bitch. Men: You poor bastard Him: She's crying rape. I'm a star quarterback for …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 10:48 PM
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Right? The music is so loud that basically all you've got to go on is looks. And anyway, at first sight, all you've got is looks, too. If someone comes up to talk to you, it's not about their "game", it's about what they look like, and then if they say what you like - and what you like will differ from individual to individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 11:04 PM
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You clearly have no idea how girls react to game. You think she’ll stay loyal to some guy she texted with? Depends what he looks like in real life. I've been with girlfriends lots of times when the guy from online doesn't look like his photos. The second he walks in, she's making a judgement call. If he looks good, then it's on. She's already interested from the texting. Some other guy's chat (what trp calls game) might work if he's better looking or more interesting, but not usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 02:42 AM
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Ever noticed women like dancing more than men? It's in their genetics to move their body to get male attention. No. It's in everyone's genetics. Look at little children - who is dancing? All of them. Look at tribes. Who are the main ones doing the dancing? Usually the men. Because dancing is considered macho in tribes. Men don't dance in our society because we have this big thing about looking "homo" or "feminine" and somehow dancing came to be considered something that men don't usually do. Wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 02:23 AM
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Only people with no experience in clubs and bars think looks matter. Spoken like someone who has little experience in clubs and bars. Of course looks matter. Looks are number one in a club or bar, with other attributes coming in after that. I'm speaking as someone who visited and worked in clubs a lot when young. Women literally pick out the guys they want on sight alone, and then try to capture their attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 02:07 AM
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Doubtful, when you look at sales numbers of vibrators.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/20 01:55 AM
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My man is 53 and the plumbing still works. Clean living is your friend, my friend! Also, lots of sex keeps it all working well, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 12:28 AM
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Except that women are able to enhance themselves in ways that men do not or cannot. So there are more attractive women at 50 than there are men. And so a single woman who is 35-50 and also looking for a relationship might get cosmetic/surgical enhancements, and by the time she's 50, she'll look much better than her counterpart male. She's also kept fit, kept her skin out of the sun, eaten well, had various enhancements, has nice hair. The typical male 35-50 who is looking for a relationship prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 12:08 AM
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No. Creepy is actions. I've had lots of very good looking men try to chat with me in creepy ways, obviously wanting quick sex. In my mind, I quickly label them creeps. I've had guys that were not attractive to me at all talk to me in non-creepy ways. I didn't find them creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 11:24 PM
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Desire for orgasms and desire for sex are two different things. Women might desire orgasms, but not desire sex, because orgasms via sex can be tricky to achieve for women. The statement, 'most men do not pay for sex' is true. Yes, they prop up an industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 11:18 PM
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Meanwhile, women will suddenly find a man attractive once he has a GF. Huh? Makes absolutely no difference - unless you already liked a guy but couldn't make up your mind about him. Otherwise, the only thing you'd think about a guy who you didn't want getting a girlfriend is "good for him". You'd be happy for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 05:05 AM
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Most men do not pay for sex. Sex workers are legal in many places. Most women do not have a safe fwb. Most women are either in relationships or single and not having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 03:21 AM
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Yes, it was Liam. He's a few years younger than the older one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 03:19 AM
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Yep, it's like the lottery. Sex with strangers/men they don't know well is risky for women, and they are usually not going to get good sex that way either.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 03:19 AM
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You are wrong. It's really super early marriages or marriages that are 30+ that end in divorce. If you're marrying at 24-28, your chances of divorce are lower. You are wrong. Marriages at age 28-32 are more likely to last. https://ifstudies.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/2006-101.png
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 06:17 AM
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But older women would genuinely prefer George Clooney over Chris because they deeply desire the experienced man look. What age range is 'older women'? I'm late 30s and I'd vastly prefer either Hemsworth over Clooney. I see lots of older women (40s and 50s) on Facebook making comments about Chris Hemsworth, but never about Clooney. Maybe women in their late 50s/60s prefer Clooney? Is that the age range you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 06:07 AM
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Nah. It's NOT mainly testosterone. If that were so, almost no woman would have a libido higher than a man's, because women's T is much lower than men's. But plenty of women have higher libidos than men. "There is little support for the notion that testosterone is the critical libidinal hormone for women." The sexual behaviour of female animals relies on estradiol: "If women’s sexual desire was under androgenic rather than estrogenic modulation, it would discriminate humans as unique amongst mamm…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 03:03 AM
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Of course. Lots of things. A great day together. The way he smells. His smile. His laugh. Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 01:36 AM
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you used up your entire lifes sex drive lolz
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 01:34 AM
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Men in relationships or access to regular sex do not have "constant thirst" for sex, except in a very small %. Most men are ok with orgasms once a day or every few days, same as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 01:32 AM
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Women have way lower sex drives because of less testosterone. Men seem to project and forget this. No. Women do not rely on testosterone the way men do for sex drive. Proof of this is that women's sex drive can soar during pregnancy, and there is no raised level of testosterone. In fact, women's hair can grow much thicker during pregnancy, which is definitely not from testosterone. Sex is risky for women in ways it isn't for men. That is why single women are not out having sex as much as they ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 01:30 AM
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Women have way lower sex drives because of less testosterone. Men seem to project and forget this. No. Women do not rely on testosterone the way men do for sex drive. Proof of this is that women's sex drive can soar during pregnancy, and there is no raised level of testosterone. In fact, women's hair can grow much thicker during pregnancy, which is definitely not from testosterone. Sex is risky for women in ways it isn't for men. That is why single women are not out having sex as much as they ot…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 12:58 AM
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Shit tier mothers, more likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 10:19 PM
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Okay, I think you and I have different definitions for SMV. I was thinking of SMV as the initial attraction factor - as in, what attracts you when you first see a person. There are other things that attract (sexually and otherwise) after you get to know a person. Those things can last years or a lifetime. Also, when I said RMV can only increase with age if the man grows wealthy etc, I was thinking of the same principle - that initial moment when a woman first meets him. That kind of RMV works fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 10:00 PM
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No, they are simply men No, you are wrong. Most men do care about maturity, therefore they marry a woman around their own age. As per marriage stats. Men who are happy with a woman who has a very young mind are deviant or desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 09:53 PM
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Men don't give a fuck about "maturity" Men who don't care about maturity in women are shit tier or sugar daddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 01:30 AM
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I agree with all you said. Women also don't like to state that their guy has a low sex drive, because the media/many men keep perpetuating this idea that masculinity means a high sex drive that runs red hot all the time, forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 01:26 AM
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Black pill just takes bits and pieces and uses them as their own "theory". Just like the red pill. The blue pill is the only one that has no specified theories of their own - because blue pill is mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 01:23 AM
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I know a lot of overweight lonely women who act very slutty in order to garner male attention. It’s an unfortunate reality of the SMV. Just as many who are not fat are trying to gain male attention. And lots of overweight women have more male attention than they could ever use.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 01:21 AM
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Men generally have a high desire for sex across the board. No. Lots of men have low desire or are happy with sex once a week. Men don't talk about this, because it's in their favor to talk about sex as if all men want it all the time. Only women know how many men are low-desire, because women have sex with and live with men. ​ What are some factors that influence a woman's promiscuity/sexual appetite? Promiscuity and sexual appetite are two very different things, especially when it comes to wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 03:43 AM
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the more openly promiscuous a chick is, the lower the IQ No. a lot of nymphos were sexually abused and become hypersexual as a survival mechanism. Yes. A percentage of. ​ Mental illness - most promiscuous women have BPD, narcissism or a variant personality disorder. Yes. A percentage of. Maybe not 'most'. ​ Being fat and ugly - women who are lower on the SMV totem pole can improve their odds by being promiscuous and, in particular, mastering the art of deepthroat. No. Wishful thinking. Most wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 03:36 AM
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You did not understand a word of what I wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 03:25 AM
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It's not a black and white thing. If the guy is rich, if he's very good looking, if he's very high status, if he's good at manipulating young girls, if he happens to meet the rare young woman who is atttracted to much older men - any or all of those things influence the outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 03:24 AM
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It's not black pill. It's science. People are attracted to attractive people. Same as many animals, in which usually it's the males attracting the females by being the best looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 03:22 AM
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Youth = more likely to be beautiful. The rest is wishful thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 03:20 AM
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Who says she has to be 22? Some guys target teenagers. But there are plenty of naive 22 year olds around. Her age is in comparison to a much older man - she is not going to have anywhere near the same maturity. Also, who said she was hot? Guys who are into very young women often have to look for the unattractive ones, just to have any chance of getting someone that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 03:14 AM
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But not pretty much any guy his age Sometimes, yes. These girls have very low self-esteem, boys their own age don't date them, and they also might also not be too bright. They are easy prey for someone who pays them lots of attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 01:10 AM
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She won't be worse looking than the women his age who he can actually get. Sometimes yes. Have seen men go for cubby, plain teenagers with knock-knees and no boobs rather than far more attractive women of about 30. It's a fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 01:07 AM
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It’s 100% about looks. Nope. It's mostly about being able to control her or being so much older than he seems wise in comparison. So it's definitely about age if he's attracted to very young girls to the exclusion of all others. He'll go for a girl far less attractive than another as long as she's as young as legally possible (or younger if he thinks he can get away with it). Have seen this in action many times.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 01:05 AM
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male SMV increasing that's happening as they age It doesn't increase as they age. Only in circumstances in which he was fat, too skinny or awkward-looking when he was 20. Same as women can get better looking as they age for the same reasons. RMV might increase for men as they age, but only if they get wealthy and get high status. But SMV doesn't increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 01:00 AM
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ooohhhh nooooo they didn't get everything they asked for? No one gets all they want. That was just a statement in reference to what you said. If I misunderstood what you meant, fair enough. men are evil Evil doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 12:58 AM
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Oh noes... you're supposed to be opposed to anything I say. I'll have to get more diabolically extreme in what I post ;) ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 12:56 AM
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on the one hand, i'm frustrated with modern women. they're the ones with hands on the tiller of this shitty rubber dinghy we call "society", they're getting exactly what they asked for Women don't have everything they asked for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 04:52 AM
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Nothing a woman hates more than a low value male... ??? Why would women hate men just because they don't want to date them? That is a weird view.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 04:50 AM
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No. It's 3:1. Boys to girls. It's because the way our genes are arranged. Girls need a far bigger "genetic hit" of autism genes (mutations) to show signs of it. More girls have it than are diagnosed, for the reasons in your post. But the ratio is still very likely to be 3:1.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 02:29 AM
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Seduction is actually still a crime in most states My example wasn't about a promise of marriage. It was about a woman making herself believe that having sex with a man would make him want to have a relationship with her. He promised nothing. Look, I really dislike people preying on vulnerable people. But when it's something that's out in the open, such as an 'only fans' type of thing, where the terms are that people pay money to see exclusive content and interact with the person, then it's not …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 02:18 AM
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a guy that claimed attending certain parties where you knew girls were getting raped basically meant any girl that attends can’t complain when it happens to her. But rape is a crime. Anyone who is raped is automatically a victim of a crime. Running a business in which you get money for a service is not a crime. People who give the business money are not victims. If a woman has sex with a man hoping that he'll have a relationship with her, and then he dumps her - she is not a victim. He has not c…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 06:55 AM
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people don’t deserve to be victims just by being naive or stupid No. But the terms are on the table with giving money online. You didn't give money online to chat with a woman, but then a man drove to your house and stuck a stick in your ass. That would make you a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 06:11 AM
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Everyone here knows I'm a woman, so I award you no points for knowing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 06:02 AM
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lemme check that....
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 11:13 AM
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Ladies and gentlemen, behold! Wisdom brought to you from the RP textbook of crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 11:13 AM
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Men have the ability to get commitment from women who want to fuck them, generally speaking. Uh, no. Only from women who want a relationship. Not from women who only want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 04:41 AM
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Obviously, you didn't think too hard about the industrial age, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 04:36 AM
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Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 01:13 AM
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No, it isn't the definition. What I said is the definition. Men pretending to be feminists are just part of the percentage of men who pretend to like what a certain woman likes, just to try to have sex or/and a relationship with her. Men pretend to like a woman's family or her dog or her hobbies or romantic dinners or travelling or lots of foreplay or lots of affection etc etc, but once they're together, it all stops.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 09:44 PM
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To the men: Some of us women feel disgust if we know a man has been inside a lot of vaginas. Wrong, I know, but that's the way it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 11:58 AM
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Jeezus. Who are you quoting there? Whatever, it's untrue. Women want relationships, and most women are happily with betas. They are not working so they don't have to rely on betas for money. They work because they want to achieve and they want money for their efforts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 10:53 AM
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If you ask me, a younger and more fresh/less demanding version of you would have the upper hand in the dating market. Of course. At the same time, it's really hard to meet someone who really suits you and improves your life. Someone who meets that criteria is valuable, even if they are not the most ideal age.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 10:49 AM
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Yes. 1000% yes. Think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 10:44 AM
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Those big strong scary men want to control the poor little old women The men who want to control women here and generally not big or strong. But anyway, minor point. Yes some do want to control women because they actually state that they do. They are too weak in every way to lead normal lives like everyone else. So, they want women controlled.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 09:24 AM
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Really sad, isn't it? Also, why don't they move countries, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 09:22 AM
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But maybe its because society stays semi-stable when Men are degenerate but Women aren’t.. It's not stable. The world has been in constant war since forever. Generally, the more backward and patriarchal, the more likely a country will be at war or go to war.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 09:21 AM
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Humanity is doing the best it's ever done. If patriarchy didn't stuff up the environment, we'd be looking at a good future right about now. If we can reverse what patriarchy did to the environment, we might be ok. Might be.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 05:26 AM
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Feminists aren’t telling men to embrace their feminine side more often? Absolutely not! Feminists say it's not feminine to be kind or nurturing or sad. It's simply human.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 05:23 AM
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Yes!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:13 AM
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Simone de Beauvoir argued that the most feminist society with the strongest welfare state in the first half of 20th century was Soviet Union. Never. Nope. Didn't happen. The Soviet Union's brand of "feminism" was nothing like feminism. Women were lumped with all the responsibility of both paid work and raising children.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:12 AM
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they lobbied for their own men to become effeminate Nope. Wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:11 AM
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male feminist is simply a man who believes women are people with rights as people. Every woman wants such a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:10 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:08 AM
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Also, “feminist” societies with large welfare states require an economy and population that grows in perpetuity in order to pay for an aging population and increasing welfare obligations. No. Feminism makes an argument for women to engage in paid work. The aging population is due to people living longer. Blame science for that one. Feminism is also tied to environmental concerns. Feminists do not want populations to grow in perpetuity and this is also not needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:07 AM
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he “patriarchy” is what made those countries successful in the first place no.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:04 AM
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I’d argue that western society is on the decline because men aren’t incentivized to produce and contribute like they used to be. Why are women producing and contributing? What incentivizes them? Women are going to work, having and raising children and paying taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 03:01 AM
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I’m enjoying the decline. At no other point in history could men get free sex without investing in the woman emotionally and financially Enjoy! Given to you by feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 02:57 AM
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The “patriarchy” made those countries successful. Patriarchy pfffffftttttt. Successful countries were those who went against patriarchal norms. They didn't get out all the rot, of course, and still haven't, but the more they resisted it, the better. The most successful countries in Europe were those in which women worked and didn't marry until their mid-20s. (Western Europe). Eastern Europe women married very young and came under the rule of their husbands. Bad, bad shitty deal. Viking DNA sugge…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 02:55 AM
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No, that's not what I meant. No, you can't get someone 'better' just by raising your standards. All you can do by raising your standards is to hold out for what you want, or be prepared to stay single. I was prepared for those things. My standards for the type of character in a man had increased by leaps and bounds. In my teens and early 20s, I didn't have the maturity to understand that some men lie and pretend in order to get into a relationship with you etc etc This time, the guy really had t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 02:39 AM
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Asinine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 01:38 AM
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Women got what their husband chose to give them. He held the power. he earned the money. Women spend the most because they are running a household and have to feed and clothe people. If a man hired a manager to run his office, he'd have to hand over enough money for them to carry out this role. Yes. raising kids is an unpaid job. Yet, all of society depends on it and benefits from it and couldn't exist without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 01:33 AM
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Because with the justification, you could also say that older women tend to have lower standards than younger ones due to the bioclock in combination with being less in demand. Totally depends on the woman. I had less standards when i was very young, due to being very naive. My standards most definitely rose over the years. The older, the wiser. The guy I met in my 30s is the best of the bunch by far. He's the calmest, the most reasonable, the happiest and the kindest. Not to mention the best lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 01:29 AM
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ZOMG, the mods ALLOWED that topic title???!!! Seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 07:10 AM
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Status and wealth are not enough for most young women. He must be young and good looking first of all. The men in your linked pic are all older. They suit the movies they're in and are attractive for their ages, but are not "hot" to a women in her 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 05:12 AM
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Not 20 yo girls -- but its not that uncommon for women in their mid to late twenties date guys in their late 30s to early 40s. It is uncommon. It happens, but not that much compared to women who date men within 5 years of their own age, up or down.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 05:06 AM
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red pill sense This is an oxymoron.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 05:03 AM
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Additionally all the guys I know who in their 20's partnered up with old hags have divorced raped them them and ran off with young women. That happens far more often the other way around. (Because there are more older men marrying young women). The bigger the age gap, the more chance of divorce. It's just science.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 04:59 AM
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You have a weird view of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 04:49 AM
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Women desire sex. To have it with who they want, they must pay. Men desire sex. To have it with who they want, they must pay (otherwise, the choices are men or women who they don't desire) If women want to have sex with "Chads" then the price is high from the outset. They have to spend a lot on their looks to gain his attention. The cost of contraception and doctors' visits also figure in - before sex is had. They also pay with risk, because sex is risky for women. Women do pay for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 04:48 AM
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I'm Russian / Ukrainian This explains a lot of your viewpoint. Far too much has been expected of women in those countries. Feminism didn't work as well because women were expected to take on a double load of work. No wonder women want to stay at home and raise children there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 10:23 PM
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most women love that role No, they don't. If they did, women would be pushing to become trad-wives. Women largely want to earn their own income and most do not enjoy housework in the least. We women do very many things for men, including sacrificing our bodies and risking death to get pregnant and give birth. Yes, women risk death to give birth, but they don't just do this for men. If you dont expect a man to provide for you by sharing his resources as HIS true half of contributions, then you la…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 10:20 PM
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Literally attacking their own inate desires. They have made a mockery of stay at home mothers. Women have a lot of different desires. Raising children is just one of them (though not true of all women). By nature, women want to create and achieve in life, in lots of different ways. It's a fantasy some men and trad-women have that women, by nature, all want to do nothing but stay at home and raise children.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 10:15 PM
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My girl better be nice and supportive if I'm bringing home the bread. You would be bringing home the bread whether you had a wife or not. Why do you want someone to kiss your feet for doing something you'd be doing anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 10:10 PM
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Women were not slaves. They did their work without payment. Yet that work was the bedrock of society, without which it could not function.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 10:05 PM
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subconscious signs and messages the guy emits signaling he is a high value guy: confidence, posture etc. This can be true. She did certainly not want an LTR with me, just to have some fun. Which is why I said that if she just wants sex, she doesn't care. She'll have sex with you regardless of whether you're having lots of sex or none. If she's into sexual escapades herself, then, yes, she might want to talk dirty about your sex life and might find it appealing if you've had lots of sex recently,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:48 PM
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a sense of pride when they figure out that I not only have an active sex life, but one with a variety of women. Sorry... just no. Whatever "pride" you think a woman has in your sex life, it's you imagining that she has pride in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:42 PM
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This is literally what me and other men have found to be successful with women we may want to sleep with. If you brag about your sexual success, either discreetly or openly, it signals you are a high value male worth mating with. More things that never happened. This just sounds so... so... cringey. It's the blind leading the blind. Hilarious but also sad. This is how women's sexuality works and it's good for men to understand it. lol. If a woman asks how your sex life has been, what she hopes i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 11:58 AM
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Women have reproductive rights over their own bodies, just like men have reproductive rights over their own bodies. They have to pay for birth control, pay for abortions (if they happen to have abortions), pay with loss of income, status & career if they have a baby. After a baby, they go back to lower incomes and positions when they go back to work. Women pay heavily for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 11:47 AM
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All women pay for sex, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 03:57 AM
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That was a hell quick reply. Points for that. The entire point of the hypothetical scenario is that the replacement works. Nope, the original question asked if the world would be better or worse. The minority of fucked up individuals always existed, Far more exist in the west than we know of today, because they lack access. If you read the linked article (which I'm guessing you didn't) it says "in Bangladesh, a survey conducted last year said 87 percent of children had experienced sexual abuse."…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 03:48 AM
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male jails are not bad because of lack of females. No, many of the males in jail were already tough and rough before they went in there. I'm saying that's what the world would become like without women. Also, why would men be desperate for human sexual contact when we established that there is an invention that takes care of that issue? Robots are not human and cannot "take care" of that issue. Some men would be ok with robots. The rest would crave human contact. Why? How do we go from female ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 03:15 AM
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beyond that what if we made advanced AI that can replicate the opposite genders personality perfectly We can't. Because a man's idea of what a woman is isn't what a woman is. And a woman's idea of what a man is isn't what a man is. So, one gender trying to replicate the other would never, ever work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 02:45 AM
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It gets old. That's because it is old. We're talking about history. Everything is old in history. It also gets damned old hearing about male scientists and male artists and male philosophers. The fucking history books are full of it. Men sucked the life out of women for centuries and took everything for themselves. But I can't just claim that it's "old" and dismiss it as though none of it happened. It's our history.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 02:44 AM
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Careful what you wish for.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 11:20 AM
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harhar. Me laughing is just a shit test. Or, is it? My partner shit tested me tonight when he asked if I wanted help with dinner. That way, I knew he was testing the mettle of his woman. And then I dominated. Yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 11:19 AM
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Feminism isn't some kind of expression of doninance . No, it isn't. The lack of desire to dominate does not mean submission. It points more to intelligence than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 09:34 AM
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You cut out the first line of that summary. That's disingenuous. It said, "Feminist philosophy is an approach to philosophy from a feminist perspective and also the employment of philosophical methods to feminist topics and questions." The part that you quoted says that feminist philosophy involves reinterpretations and re-evaluations, not that they are the whole. All philosophy builds on the work of previous philosophy. Feminism brings a new framework. At least not compared to their male counte…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 07:27 AM
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If robots took over those roles though, then women would probably be expected to become net-positive taxpayers as a whole. Yes. We see this in many countries right now. Women who choose not to marry and have kids are not sitting on their butts. They're working and paying taxes. Women who have had kids are also not sitting on their butts - many are also working in paid work. And the childcare work they do can largely be quantified because we know how much nannies etc are paid. Also we know how mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 07:01 AM
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Please elaborate. What do you think it would happen and why? Two words. Male jails. But jails only keep most people alive because they are largely kept in cells away from each other. Men on their own without women would quickly devolve. The world would be like one large jail. People would go crazy and violent and murderous. Men desperate for human sexual contact would start raping other men en masse. With robots to care for the children (all male children by the way) there would be little contac…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 06:55 AM
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Except people can get VS credits, a-la upvotes. Look, to take this logic to it's extreme, we can't even know a person's true gender when it's hidden behind a username on here. This topic is only talking about PPD, as per the thread title. You're just as likely to get downvotes or get criticized or called out. This is not the place to get adulation for your opinions. RP is the place for that. Just call women sluts or bitches and you're fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 06:48 AM
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I don't see where I said that. I don't know what men, in general, would think. I am saying it would be bad for everyone. You're welcome to your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 06:46 AM
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Why else do people virtue signal? To make themselves look good in front of other people, in a setting in which they are physically visible. It could be online, but they would not be anonymous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 02:20 AM
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female thinking following/emulating male thought Does that include feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 02:19 AM
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Men are just different than women. And that diversity is needed. They are more impulsive, take more risks, think in different patterns, give children different outlooks than do women, have far more geeks among them etc etc. If men vanished and women replaced them with robots, the robots would be programmed by women and the male robots would be far more like women than men. Same if women vanished and men replaced women with robots. The female robots would basically become like subservient men, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 01:55 AM
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I am asking red pillers here. They believe hypergamy is innate. Oh yeah, I got that bit. RP here do believe women are hypergamous. I thought by what you said that you also thought that. RPers of the future are going to be in for a huge shock. Because women are not hypergamous by nature. The young rp'ers who believe that by building wealth, at age 40 they will be able to get a 25 year old hottie to marry them, will be very disappointed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 01:48 AM
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Porn isn't supposed to in-person. Images onscreen are enough to give men and women the stimulus they're looking for. Virtue signalling is "the action or practice of publicly expressing opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one's good character or the moral correctness of one's position on a particular issue." No one knows who the people on here are. You get no VS credits for what you say. I think people are more likely to say exactly what they think here because it's anonymous, without …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 01:44 AM
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It doesn’t matter whether it’s anonymous or not. They’re doing it for themselves because it makes them feel good and think they’re a good person. Duh. Virtue signalling means signalling to others that you have certain virtues. Doing it anonymously wins you no credits. You're going to have to call it something else, because the term you used is not fit for purpose. Yeah, no. The only way it comes close is through people who are basically martyrs. It can come close when people do things for people…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 01:37 AM
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Submission has never been and will never be feminine. The existence of feminism, and the fact that most women accept feminist concepts even if they don't call themselves feminist, proves that women never were submissive. Women were kept down and under men's boots during history - sure - but that proves nothing. If an alien race came and dominated earth for the next thousand years, would all human become naturally submissive to the aliens? Doubtful. They'd act submissive due to being overpowered,…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 01:30 AM
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But women aren't hypergamous as a trait. They have only had to 'marry up' in the past because they had few options in life. Most women are happy with a guy who is a solid family man. Lots of men think they'd be happy with a woman who looks good and never says no - but when men had this, they'd seek out sassy, challenging women to have affairs with (see, Prince Charles). Most men aren't happy with submissive women in the long run - only weak-minded men want women like this. Happily, most men of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 01:01 AM
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It goes the same way around, a bunch of robots could replace all men who work non-stop to create a better society for all the women. No. If men were gone and replaced by robots, it would be a terrible world for women. Women understand that diversity makes the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 12:56 AM
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you kill half of soceity to please the other half. It's better for the ones left over How would it be better?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 12:54 AM
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They'd certainly have to step it up and become net-positive taxpayers as a whole to not be considered a burden. Men created a society in which women are not paid for the most essential work that any person ever does - pregnancy and raising children. If women were rightly paid for this, they would be taxpayers for these essential services, as well as all the other paid jobs they currently do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 12:51 AM
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Why couldn't "male robots" provide provision and protection? They could work and earn money, and be armed with weapons to protect. Just a question as I'm confused on that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 12:17 AM
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Men build and invent civilizations for women and kids to thrive Men built most of the infrastructure. But women form far more of the minds behind civilization. Without women's influence, civilization wouldn't have happened. It would just have been constant war until everyone was dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 12:15 AM
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It's a falsehood that 'submissive' is a feminine trait. It never was. It was forced on women, but it isn't a true trait. Whereas 'loving and family-valuing' are true feminine traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 12:10 AM
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So... you honestly think that a world that only had human males in it would be as it is now?? That world would only have male thought patterns and male agendas and male everything. Every robot female would only be as men think they want her to be. You still think the world of humans would keep on spinning?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 12:05 AM
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They can't help but break the "Be civil" rule It's pretty easy to break that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 11:58 PM
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It can't be "virtue signalling" when it's all anonymous, dude. Women here get zero VS credits. ​ There is no such thing as true altruism. No, but it can come close.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 11:55 PM
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But my point was that for the men that do want to sleep around, it's more of their nature to desire that. I don't believe it's in a woman's nature to do the same. Much more women would sleep around if it wasn't so risky for them. The desire is there but the risks are different for men and women. When going home with a random woman, men don't generally worry about violent sex, rape, murder, STDs, pregnancy, loss of reputation, gaining a stalker etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 11:51 PM
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Mating a virgin plus controlling her sexuality. Men don't control virgin women's sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 05:12 AM
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In general, it makes weak men out of young boys. And weak men = less competent society. It's not just the 'single parent' factor though. In large part it's poverty and low incomes. Proof of this is the huge crime rate in the 80s - these young people committing the crimes were the children of 2-parent families of the 50s and 60s. So, men who commit crime can be made from 2 parent families as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 05:10 AM
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Why is riding the CC something women want to be able to do or strive to do? Why is it something men want to do? Answer that and you might have your answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 05:05 AM
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We have a nuclear family shortage! Generations are growing up without fathers. That's a bigger issue I agree with this. Two parents work better than one. Now, if we can just convince more men to invest in their kids....
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 02:10 AM
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Attractive girls have more sex. Girls who are not tend to have less sex because they'd rather stay at home than be pumped and dumped by men. Hence the big sex shortage men here keep telling us about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 01:22 AM
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From an RP perspective it's still bad since he's still being used for his resources and she likely isn't as attracted to him as her AFs. lol women can't win. She's still young and desirable to a huge number of very desirable men. But because she's already had a lot of sex she cannot settle with someone out of love? Must be exhausting thinking about whores and madonnas all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 01:15 AM
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A lot of women are more inclined to sleep with a guy if they know other women have slept with the man. It's like yelp reviews. That's a trp fantasy. A man who has slept with many women is less desirable for a relationship. If she just wants sex, it doesn't matter if he's a virgin or has had lots of sex. Women do not need a man who has been "vetted". That's insane. A woman knows with a split second if the man she's looking at is sexy or not. No need for any other woman to say yay or nay.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 01:10 AM
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On an evolutionary level, men can ensure their paternity certainty by mating with a virgin. No. She can have sex with other men after she has sex with him, at any time.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 01:07 AM
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On an evolutionary level, a women is less concerned with her man having a high n count because her maternity certainty is always assured. Could not be more untrue. Women are extremely concerned about high n count in men because it means they are not to be trusted and are not loyal. The most important thing about having a baby to a woman throughout evolution was that the child would be provided for and protected. That meant having a man who was low n count who would stay and provide and not wande…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 01:00 AM
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You cherry picked though. ​ Women with 3-9 partners were less likely to divorce than women with 2 partners
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 12:55 AM
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No, it's not that way for girls at all. The girls who guys don't pick are the girls having the least sex and are the ones guys want the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 12:49 AM
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Are you seeing it that way to justify your own life choices? What life choices? Being married with kids, as I am? Its not fun vs boring Its a rusty wrench vs a sparkling diamond Well, yes, glad you understand. Men who've had lots of sex are rusty tools. Men who saved themselves are sparkling gems. See, we agree, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:37 PM
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Pure women are women least touched by sexual experiences , and other mens dicks, as per the men who obsses over a females N. As close to a virgin as possibly is their perverted male fantasy Yep, that's what I understood to be a 'pure woman'. But I was saying that a woman who has had sex, maybe even very frequent sex, but didn't she didn't need it that much, might not be concerned with the size of a penis. But, I was happy to be shown that I am wrong on that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:34 PM
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TRP stole and overwrote/twisted mainstream terms. So, all's fair 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:32 PM
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Who is policing speech? Everyone is simply saying the name of the group doesn't fit the cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:31 PM
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Are you sure about that? Seems like a great way to catch genital herpes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/20 11:29 PM
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He might want sex with her, but he'll only do enough to get himself off, and he won't make any effort to be sexy/charming/exciting the rest of the time. He might put her down and do nothing around the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 02:48 AM
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there is a lot of correlation between traits that women find attractive and men with high n-count Nah, not in general. Most women get with men who are around their age who have about the same sexual experience as themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 02:36 AM
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MensHealth wasn't the source. Their information came from the source and gave the name of the study author. I've seen the original studies. More studies need to be done to be conclusive, esp. for doctors to evaluate men who want enlargement surgery. But it does appear that height carries a correlation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 02:34 AM
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Warning other men I suppose will look like bitching to bitches. It's the name of MGTOW that is the problem. If it meant Men Getting Triggered Over Women, it would make perfect sense. But being about men going their own way makes no sense at all. I mean if you had a group called, 'women going their own way' and all they did was bitch about men, every observer would say they hadn't gone their own way at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/20 01:42 AM
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Yep. AF/BB. AF = Amoral Floozy BB = Boring Betty Girls, don't let yourself become some man's Boring Betty. If he slutted around having flings with Amoral Floozies when younger, you don't want his worn-out penis, saggy balls and inability to bond now. He had his chance, but he didn't settle down when he was fresh. As a Boring Betty, you'll get stale sex in which he only thinks of his own pleasure (he won't go to the efforts he gave his floozies), he'll dress in baggy T-shirts that hide his gut, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 11:39 PM
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Your just trying to downplay a womans desire and again, trying to confine it under the notion that pure women are inexperienced, further feeding the male virgin fantasy. I'm not sure what that means. What are 'pure women'? With a commitmed partner, I'm extremely sexual and men even fawn over the fact that I'm just such the perfect partner when it comes to sex, everything a man wants and an amazing dirty mind. Fair enough. Going back to being single. I will surely turn down any average penis and …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 11:24 PM
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Daddy made it clear he didn’t want the baby so ifs all on her. If he didn't use a condom, he didn't make it clear at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 11:18 PM
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Anyone who doesn't think what you think is a liar? That's a broad brush to paint with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 11:17 PM
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I have read studies that say there is a correlation. A difficult thing to study, because it requires a third party to measure erect penises, and for there to be enough men in the study to make it a proper study, and for the study authors themselves not to be biased. This is what I have read: The researchers also explored some of the most common “indicators” of penis size to see if there was an actual connection. Height was slightly related, meaning that the taller men were, the larger their erec…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 11:16 PM
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It does have a lot to do with it. It's hard to imagine a woman who is happy with sex once a year having as raw an attraction to a penis and its size as a woman with a high drive. Doesn't seem to make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 10:50 AM
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Aren’t guys seen as most attractive at 50 years old too? Big fat no. They are most attractive at about 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 04:22 AM
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Just ONE man with a 7 or 8 inch penis is all it takes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 04:19 AM
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Just ONE man with a 7 or 8 inch penis is all it takes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 04:18 AM
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so you're saying that size doesn't matter for pleasure but it does matter for how sexually attracted you are to a man, right? If I can answer that, sexual attraction is about how attractive his face and body is. His dick size comes after that. If he had a really small dick but everything else was good about him, then we could use a vibrator during sex so that I still get that 'full feeling' at least part of the time. But I'd choose him over an unattractive guy with a big dick anyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 04:16 AM
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I don't think a lot of women would. The dick must be attached to a guy the woman wants, else it's just a sausage and not something she wants to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 04:12 AM
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Speak for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 04:08 AM
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Yep, taller guys will tend to have bigger dicks. It forms part of women's raw attraction to men. It's the package. A large dick will feel good and will be sexually attractive to women with high sex drives. But, it's not worth getting obsessed over. It's not the be all and end all. An attractive face is the most important thing for raw attraction. But even that is not the last word. A lot of things can make up the package. What is the package? The package is all the things that make you a man, as…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 04:07 AM
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I have never seen a man's penis on the first date. Or 2nd or 3rd. But you are correct in that the size of a man's penis is important if a woman likes sex. He might have other factors that make up for it though. A big dick doesn't make up for a bad personality and unattractive face. But women do discuss big dicks as being a good thing to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 03:55 AM
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Pre conception acts are irrelevant. You keep saying that. Doesn't make it remotely true. They are relevant because they determine whether or not a pregnancy is possible. Anyone with even a basic grasp of math can figure that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 03:52 AM
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However, that doesn't justify forcing men to pay for women's choices. The woman might have to pay for a man's choice in not using a condom. If she gets pregnant, she either has to pay for an abortion or raise a child (and lose income for the next 18 years). There might be a huge emotional toll for her either way. She might pay a huge price for his choice in not wearing a condom.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 03:49 AM
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Only if rape is legal and female agency doesn’t exist. That does not make any sense. If men have the power to ensure their sperm doesn't meet an egg, how does it make sense that that can only happen if rape is legal and female agency doesn't exist?? You don't need to rape a woman to put a condom on. A woman can still have agency, but she doesn't have a say in whether or not the man uses a condom. His body, his agency, his choice. Use a condom, don't let the sperm reach the egg. Simples.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 03:46 AM
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That’s fine, mommy better get a job then. Too hard to get a job with a newborn. Daddy better pay up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 03:43 AM
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hahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 03:38 AM
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A one year old comment? Ok... Cannot be bothered to find more. I read it all the time, but it's a hard thing to search for, due to the different wording used. And besides, if men can have financial abortions and women are forced to take on all costs, then she might be forced into an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 03:35 AM
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Nope. Wrong. Preconception acts are very, very relevant. His body, his choice, his responsibility to choose where his sperm goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 03:29 AM
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Once pregnancy happens If you're a man can can't decide what happens after a pregnancy, don't let it happen. That's when your choice is made. We have already decided that pre conception acts are irrelevant when we made abortion legal. Nope. Wrong. Contraception can fail, plus a hundred other reasons why abortion was made legal. Preconception acts are very, very relevant. His body, his choice, his responsibility to choose where his sperm goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 03:29 AM
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This is just one. I have seen many: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/a16q7b/consenting_to_sex_is_not_consenting_to_being_a/eanpze0/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 04:11 PM
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There are lots. This is one. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/a16q7b/consenting_to_sex_is_not_consenting_to_being_a/eanpze0/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 04:10 PM
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Are you ill? It quite literally advocates for forcing women to have abortions. The right of a woman to have a child is not absolute? Disagree? Then check out this thought experiment. If every fertile woman from now on has just four kids, global population will explode and the early 22nd century will be the worst famine times humanity has ever known. The right of a person to bring new people into the world cannot be absolute, because humans eat much more than they grow and we can massively expand…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 04:09 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/a16q7b/consenting_to_sex_is_not_consenting_to_being_a/eanpze0/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 04:04 PM
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lol. That's a joke, considering the posts that are allowed to stay. Statement denied.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 04:04 PM
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No... this is not the common position. It has been the position over and over again. It is said here all the time. No one can claim otherwise. I'm simply basing my post on that. It's a strawman to say it isn't said here. Because it is. Many do not want a child of theirs to exist, whether they can have a 'financial abortion' or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 03:17 PM
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Ah, but you see, the men who propose that they should be able to force women to get abortions think that it's an equal thing. They consider that either the man or the woman should have equal say over a woman's body in the case of a pregnancy - with the person who doesn't want the pregnancy to proceed to win out (by law). So, if that can be equal, other things can be equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 03:14 PM
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No. But both operations would be something required to be carried out by law on another person's body, due to the act of having sex - with both parties able to prevent a child occurring. It's about as equal as it can get, all considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 03:08 PM
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Because they don't want to have the babies or become fathers. So they want it to be law that they can require the women to have abort the fetus.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 03:07 PM
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It's a thought piece. Something to consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 03:03 PM
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But we have the situation that lots of men here do want to force women to have abortions. This is repeated over and over again in forums threads. That's the premise of my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 03:02 PM
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Many men here want to be able to force abortion operations on a woman's body. I am saying that, in turn, if that was law, then should women be able to force operations on a man's body? It doesn't seem unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 02:57 PM
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if you believe in womens right to choose then men should have that right too They do. Condoms and vasectomies. A man has control over what happens to his body. Else, if you think a man should be able to choose what happens to a woman's body, then a woman should be able to choose that he have a vasectomy before they have sex. She should be able to have that control over his body to ensure no pregnancy happens to her, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 02:25 PM
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He made the choice to put his sperm in a place where there are eggs. He was not forced - unless he was raped. If he was raped, then it's different. Otherwise, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 02:24 PM
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So??? The man still can use a condom right? It's his body and his sperm and his penis, right??? He carries a supply of his own condoms. He controls what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 02:23 PM
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As long as the woman can choose to give birth, it's really on her. No. Once the pregnancy happens, the choice is already made. The pregnancy exists and so does the foetus. It's her body. She can't 'choose' to give birth at this birth. It will happen whether she likes it or not - unless she chooses an abortion, which she might for many reasons. Because it's her body. Men choose what happens with THEIR body. Women choose what happens with THEIR body. (Except women have less choice, because they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 02:22 PM
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of whether to consent to unprotected sex So did he.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 02:17 PM
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Why should men have to pay for women's choice to give birth? Why should women pay for men's choice to put their sperm in the place where he knows there are eggs? It's a deliberate act. But she is not in control of whether or not the sperm fertilizes one or more of her eggs. She can't see or feel what's happening in there. It's not her choice to give birth or not if she 1. doesn't believe in abortion 2. cannot go through with an abortion even though she always thought she could 3. doesn't live so…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 02:15 PM
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Since men have no power on wether the baby is born or not, They hold ALL the power to ensure sperm does not meet an egg.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 02:09 PM
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Taxpayers shouldn’t be paying for her ho ass I don't want to pay for his ho ass. At least most women who have a baby take care of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 02:07 PM
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I'm not paying for the decisions of two people that led to making a baby. Both made the decision to put sperm and eggs together in the one place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 02:06 PM
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casual sex is emotionally damaging for the wast majority of women Why? It's just sex. It's only damaging if she actually wants a relationship and is having sex to get one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 01:05 PM
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Would you like to live in a world where only mutually enjoyable sex takes place? I suspect you would not like it, because not much fucking will be going on. Most sex that isn't mutually enjoyable is that between 1. sex workers and clients, and 2. rape. It'd be fine if those two things didn't exist. Loads of fucking would still be going on, each and every day, and mutually enjoyable. Who wouldn't want to live in that world?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 01:01 PM
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True. But it's not the same thing in reverse. For you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:57 PM
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It's a hard task. Their logic twists into a demented pretzel.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:56 PM
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lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:55 PM
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Typically, if you throw money and attention at a woman (without crossing the creepy line), she'll have sex with you. Just my experience. She's already decided she's attracted before you ever throw her a dime or give her a shred of attention. She's just decided to wants to make you dance before the sex. Nothing you did essentially got you the sex. That was already decided.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:55 PM
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Not every woman has enough disposable income to afford birth control, condoms and abortions. Birth control can fail or cause her various serious health problems. And she might not be able to afford doctor's appt's for the infections that might come with having lots of casual sex. She won't even be able to have sex while in the middle of an infection. (Infections? Thrush, various vaginal infections, herpes). She can't always 'get sex' just because she has a body. because a woman's body is not jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:49 PM
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Ahahahaha omg, thanks for that link. Best laugh I've had for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 04:33 AM
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I didn't agree with what you said. It's not like, you say the right thing at the right time and you will get sex. I'm saying it's a lot less to do with the guy and a lot more to do with the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 03:13 AM
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I get vitriol when I say the same thing in forums dominated by "sex positive feminists" and hedonistic women. Prove it with links.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 12:59 AM
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If you say the right words with the right look at the right time, you will get sex. That sounds like something a 15 year old who has been reading RP would say. Men don't hold the keys to "unlock" women for sex. Women hold their own keys, and most times, have already decided if they feel like having sex or not, way before a guy opens his mouth to say anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 12:55 AM
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This whole subreddit is full of bachelors in their 30s and 40s having a great time with women. No, it literally isn't. It's full of men bitching endlessly about women. Which, obviously, they wouldn't be doing if they were actually "having a great time with women".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 12:52 AM
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I didn't say either of those things. I said "lots' did. Which is absolutely true. I was illustrating the point of a man sitting in an office all day and expecting to come home to a clean house, cooked meal and kids under control. It partly explains why women got sick of it and wanted to go out and work and earn money for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 12:41 AM
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say huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 12:23 AM
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A safer society where they wouldn't have to worry as much about men's responses in regards to rejection, and the risk to their personal safety would go down? The juice would not be worth the squeeze. Lay down and let people trample over you in the vain hope they won't hurt you? Women would rather die on their feet than live on their knees. No thanks. I think there's lots of benefits of making sure men are satisfied sexually, where the women would benefit from. Such as? As for orgasms, they shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/20 11:35 PM
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