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It’s not wrong. Only have one person you’re emotionally intimate with is unbelievably unfair to that person. You’re shouldering them with your entire burden. Why would men be vitriolic in regards to women due to someone saying they need real, emotionally intimate platonic friends in addition to a romantic relationship? Being reserved and not being capable of an emotionally intimate, platonic friendship are two totally different things. You’re conflating the two but I’m not. You can reserved and …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 11:55 PM
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It is emotionally stunted to believe that’s it’s fair, kind or loving to dump all your emotional intimacy on one person. It’s a fundamental misunderstanding to how burdensome that is for one person to carry. If someone prefers to be the keeper of all of someone’s emotional needs then they are likely manipulative or equally stunted in that they think it’s normal to carry such an emotional load. Why do you care if I’m judgmental? It would only impact you if you are like the person I’m presumably j…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 05:25 PM
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Well when someone moves they have to switch providers. I don’t ask the specific question, but the topic comes up in discussing social dynamics. If you’re not surrounding yourself with people you can trust maybe question who you spend time with. Why waste time on people who you’re unwilling to trust with your emotional needs. Friends should be emotionally intimate with each other otherwise you’re mischaracterizing an acquaintance as a friend. This is rather common in men, they keep “friends” at a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 04:47 PM
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I have been to several therapists and they all say to rely on one person for your emotional well-being is a terrible plan and brutally unfair to that one person. You are emotionally stunted if the only person you can be open with is the same one you’re fucking. It shows you’re really unpracticed at being emotionally vulnerable and you only have acquaintances and not friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/23 01:07 PM
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That’s literally what dating is. Figuring out if you’re truly compatible with another person. I’d love you to find a therapist that encourages you to have only one person who you emotionally share everything with. People can live however they want but I love to follow relationships and see which ones thrive and which fail. The friend to relationship pipeline doesn’t have huge success rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 01:56 AM
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The point of dating is to vet if you are compatible for both the emotional and physical parts of a relationship, you know past the superficial. You don’t need friendship to date. Dating gets women killed? Odd since most murders are committed by people close to the victim. Yeah I’m not physically attracted to my friends so they could never cross to romantic interest. If I’m not willing to be emotionally intimate with a person they aren’t my friend, they are merely an acquaintance. It’s not health…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 12:59 AM
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I’m nearly 30 and found my partner when I was 20. Knowing what you want in life doesn’t need to equate being old.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 12:55 AM
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Did I say listen to what people say? No, I said to observe what is actually happening around you. Words are cheap, actions aren’t so that’s where your information should come from
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 02:20 PM
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Nah I’d say you’re just as terrible of a friend for switching late in the game. You need to learn what you want and pursue it honestly and openly. I’m not demeaning anyone. I’m pointing out areas that need work so as to not be a piss poor person. If you cannot be deeply emotionally intimate with your friends and then turn around and expect that from a romantic partner you’re unfairly unloading on one person. One person shouldn’t be the keeper of your emotional intimacy. We see this more with men…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 12:50 PM
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I have a public health background, sexual health was one of my specialties. Most people, like yourself, and wayyyyyy too confident in using one or two methods.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 01:41 AM
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So? Unless it’s absolutely air tight you should being super cautious. I know at least 10 women who had iud babies because it moved out of position without their knowing. It takes very little effort to make a man nut but I’ll do everything in my power to prevent it. Again I’ve only done my method 4 times before I got bored and got a LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 12:18 AM
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But condoms fail at an alarming rate. Unless you’re at 99.99% efficacy you need to at least be doubling up on methods. Oh I can, but I purposefully don’t for hookups. Those men aren’t worth the effort. Within a LTR it’s a priority not for a random
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 12:11 AM
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How is it not clear. Observe the world around you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 11:36 PM
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Seriously? You think this is some sort of secret? Honestly you must be highly under socialized or homeschooled for this not to be as clear as day to you and all other people
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 10:05 PM
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I’m not. The premise of your post is to use your male friends as a limited dating pool. And unless you tell them you’re lying and manipulating them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:26 PM
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And yet you only use male friends for romantic relationships. You literally lie and then claim, like an innocent victim, that you just want something “authentic” and “natural”. You need to tell all your male friends that you only look for romantic interest from that limited pool so they are aware of your intentions. And these are intentions since the premise of your post is to only use male friends for dating
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:23 PM
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You can have high quality men in your life without being a nasty manipulative liar. You use your male friends for personal gain which is beyond wrong. You’re not taking precautions, you’re just lying for personal gain. Precautions would be having boundaries and vetting men for them while dating. Not using your friends has a weird pool for romantic relationship gain. That’s not authentic or natural which is what you claim it to be. Essentially what you’re doing is just keeping men on deck which i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:13 PM
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What the actual fuck? If that’s the case in your belief you shouldn’t even be friends with men. You very clearly have some sexual trauma that needs dealing with if you think men have some lust/hatred problems
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:06 PM
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Then that shows me you struggle with platonic friendship and likely not capable of romantic relationship. Platonic friendships should by emotionally intimate, otherwise you’re just acquaintances. This is highly common in men. People they consider friends are really just acquaintances and then put all their emotional intimacy needs on their romantic partner. It’s super fucked up for their female partners. I hope you focus on your ability to be emotionally intimate because frankly it’s kinda pathe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:01 PM
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I’m not. It’s actually shocking to me that it’s not blatantly obvious. For me the only way to not know is to have lived life as an absolute recluse since birth
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 07:55 PM
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Either you know or you don’t. If it takes being friends to get to the point of romantic interest there’s something else lacking since the feelings took so long to develop. The whole point of dating is to see if you’re compatible emotionally. It’s a betrayal no matter what. The boundaries of platonic friendship are being disregarded. If you’re willing to let people walk all over you that’s fine but it speaks to your character. You’re wasting precious time on people who cannot decide whether you’r…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 07:41 PM
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Yup. Both parties need to indicate a romantic interest up front and then date to check for compatibility. I’m not going to fuck around with platonic friends. If you don’t know what you want and think you can change your mind later on with the friend route you’ve shown you’re not worth my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 07:21 PM
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I don’t find much joy in gifts. Occasionally they’re fine but frequent gifts annoy me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 06:02 PM
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Me or OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:51 PM
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Seriously?? Almost all the women I know double up with condoms and pull out. You’re really showing your cards in that your sexual health and contraceptive methods are lacking. No, I’m nearly 30 but I don’t really care about a man I’m hooking up with. His pleasure isn’t important to me, only my own so when I’m done so is he.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:50 PM
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What is there to not understand? Platonic friends are always platonic for me. No one gets the opportunity to switch over. I tell my male friends I don’t care if they develop feelings for me, I will always view them as platonic. If you have a crush be honest and upfront and don’t be manipulative with the friends first bs. I’m not saying ignore or bottle up. I’m saying I will never view a platonic male friend as anything more so they can do what they want with that information. If I want a romanti…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:48 PM
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If I could observe this as a child so can a boy. The only excuse is choosing not to open your eyes. No one told me this, it’s the conclusion I came to from just looking around
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:13 PM
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I did read your other comment. I have never used deception, I would be upfront and get a verbal confirmation (the men didn’t believe I would follow through but that’s their own problem). Deception would be doing this without telling them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:28 PM
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It’s called the pull out method. Condoms aren’t a sure fire thing, so layering contraceptive techniques is absolutely necessary. I typically used 4 methods at the same time: bc, condom, spermicide and pull out. There’s always risk of a man finishing inside my body so I will do all I can to remove that risk and I’m open/upfront about it. Also remember these men verbally agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:26 PM
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No I’m saying the looks must be there for any physical relationship and for a serious relationship the whole package must be there. Looks are the baseline for any interest and the bar gets higher for each subsequent level of intimacy/closeness/LTR These are things that shouldn’t have to be explicitly told. Observe people and it’s obvious as fuck. I knew this as a kid
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:24 PM
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Yes but you’re hiding your intent that you plan on using your pool of male friends as dating prospects which is super shady. They should be aware that you’re using them in that way. Otherwise you’re being the opposite of authentic and highly manipulative. “Adults” as you say shouldn’t ever be hiding their intentions that’s some teenager shit right there
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:21 PM
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You do have intent. You use your friend base as your romantic partner pool, which is inherently manipulative unless you tell these men. How men are as friends doesn’t equate to how they are in romantic relationships so your logic is flawed from the jump. Again with black and white thinking. You can pursue platonic and romantic relationships at the same time, it’s not an either or situation. That’s why you vet men while dating. It’s super suspicious that you cannot be upfront with men that you ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:53 AM
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Because I wholeheartedly disagree with your advice. It lacks nuance and makes women feel bad for wanting to seek a romantic relationship in addition to a robust platonic community to rely on. You seem to be of the opinion that seeking out romantic question means someone is messed up. I also feel strongly that you’re highly manipulative and your method relies on lying to friends about your intentions. Which is super fucked up. You literally lie to every male friend you have
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:43 AM
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Doesn’t matter, you weren’t honest from the jump and that’s the opposite of authentic. You used your friends for personal gain which is super fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:30 AM
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Nope, none of my friends ever let hookups finish in them. It’s way too risky for either party to do that. If you come in a woman you’re casual with you’re a fucking idiot of the highest order
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:29 AM
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So? The fact that you didn’t tell your male friends what you were doing means you manipulated them under the guise of being “authentic” Instead of being upfront, you were dishonest with people you claimed to be friends with
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:28 AM
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Nope because I literally tell them that’s what I’m doing before I do it. All of them said “yeah sure” and then we’re pikachu surprised face when I followed through. I say I’ll have sex but once I finish I’m done and I do not allow random men to finish in me. It’s only deceptive if I didn’t say anything. Also I only did this 4 times before I met my current partner nearly 9 years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:27 AM
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Where did I say desperation? You can focus on platonic and romantic relationships at the same time. You lack the ability to see nuance. Your method is highly manipulative and not “authentic” or “natural” as you think it is. Just because two people aren’t friends first doesn’t equate to a lesser quality relationship. Are you honest with your male friends that they are being evaluated for romantic potential? If you don’t then what you’re doing is 100% manipulative
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:24 AM
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Yeah exactly, platonic friends cannot fulfill romantic needs. There’s nothing wrong with wanting romance in your life. It’s rather odd that you think wanting romance means something is wrong. Pursuing romantic relationships upfront means your intentions are clear, your method is manipulative and if I knew a woman like you I’d view you as inherently untrustworthy and tell your male friends. Again you seem to have some really trauma rooted issues around romance that should be resolved. Otherwise y…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:13 AM
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You’re very black and white. There’s nothing wrong with desiring romantic relations while also fostering a robust platonic community. It’s not either or, it’s both to be the most well rounded
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:05 AM
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It’s a huge breech of trust to tell a platonic friend you’ve had hidden romantic desires for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:03 AM
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The intent of your romantic partner should include sex. If my partner doesn’t have initial physical chemistry then he’s not worth pursuing. A romantic relationship needs a strong romantic component and deep emotional connection. It’s odd that you think someone who finds you physically attractive doesn’t respect you. Seems like some weird religious trauma. It takes you years to figure out if someone has romantic partner potential?! That’s absolutely wild. Wanting a romantic relationship with a ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:01 AM
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You can vet people without being friends first, that’s literally what dating is. If a male friend ever made the romantic jump it would be the biggest violation of trust, it would show me he was never the person I thought he was. Also doing friends first is slow as all hell. I rather know a man has romantic interest and similar goals than taking a circular route.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:43 AM
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I’m neither angry nor sickened. He never came but he did try to violate my boundaries by coming inside me. Something I told him I wasn’t comfortable with. Condoms can break, they aren’t fool proof so I will never put 100% trust in them. I love men but I won’t risk my health and well-being on a hookup. Do you think that consenting to sex means as a male you get to come inside a woman? Is the pull out method unknown to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:36 AM
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I would argue your pipeline is terrible advice. There’s nothing fulfilling about a romance that came from your friend circle vs other means. But your method runs the risk of ruining a friend circle. It’s lazy and careless. It also shows you limit your male friends to only ones who would make potentially good partners instead of having a diverse and robust friend group. How is romance from a friend more “natural” than romance from a different origin?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:33 AM
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It will 100% unless the relationship ends in lifelong commitment. Social dynamics are critical to a well rounded life, you cannot rely only on your partner for all your social needs. Relationships don’t have to develop organically to be successful or good. Dating with the intention of your end relationship goal is perfectly fine. Also people typically have different needs from a friend vs romantic partner. A good friend doesn’t necessarily make a good partner. I have lots of friends that are inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:20 AM
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Yeah it’s a huge risk to use friends to partner pipeline. A man should be able to show with his social circle that he has the necessary skills. But dating friends is a fast way to destroy friend circles and be left without a partner and close friends. Don’t shit where you eat
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:13 AM
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It’s neither safer nor healthier, is far riskier to switch a friend to something more. I’d never destroy a friendship for sex, I actually explicitly make it clear to my male friends that I will absolutely never have any sexual interest in them. You can date slowly and really get to know someone. I know couples that didn’t have sex for over a year after starting dating and they’re not religious at all. They just prioritized their emotional connection before ever attempting physical.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:57 AM
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Or you could just date and slowly add in physical intimacy. I’d never date any of my male friends. If you’re a platonic friend you’ll never cross to romantic
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:51 AM
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Which part is funny? Most men focus on their own pleasure during a hook up, why is it wrong for women to do the same. A man finishing inside me is super high risk so unless I trust him implicitly I would never ever risk my health. Is a man getting ridden and then me getting off hilarious some how?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:35 AM
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Ok so clearly we are not discussing in good faith. There’s a huge difference between pre cum and finishing. From a fertility perspective a man should never be coming in a woman he doesn’t trust, that’s how accidental babies happen. But I’m very clear that finishing isn’t happening in me. I used to prevent it simply by being on top, finishing myself, getting off and putting my clothes on. Men are also quite obvious when they are about to finish. It’s not like it happens with no tell tale signs
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:24 AM
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Is reading comprehension difficult? With hookup partners I was explicitly clear that they needed to pull out before finishing and if they did not it would be considered rape due to lack of consent. In these few encounters I focused solely on my pleasure and positions I liked and then once I finished the encounter was over. All three men didn’t like this despite their agreement, especially the man I had to use physical force with (he was my first hookup and I learned missionary is a dangerous pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 01:58 AM
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No because women don’t fuck people they find unattractive, physically and/or emotionally
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 12:43 AM
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Not getting to finish in anything but a tissue is better for you? I mean more power to you but most men would prefer to finish near the woman not in the bathroom. I’m also not willing to prioritize male pleasure in a hook up situation, no oral/use of hands, nor am I willing to be fully creative. I also give the man a bag for his condom and tissue that he can throw out on his way home, can’t leave it at my place.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 12:19 AM
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Using a man as a dildo with a pulse isn’t really a compliment, especially if there are layers of physical barriers and no climax for him. It’s quite easy to tell when men are about to finish and simply remove my body before they do. The few times I’ve done this they were warned (trying to finish in me after stating my non-consent is rape) and laughed. The one who tried to hold me down got some very sharp nails to the balls, the blood helped him learn his lesson. Having a man finish in me doesn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 11:55 PM
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If anyone approaching a heterosexual encounter doesn’t know this they are fucking idiot. No one is going to have sex with someone they don’t find attractive, if someone is willing to they likely need a good bit of therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 11:48 PM
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There are only 2 categories: above threshold and below threshold. Doesn’t matter how far below a woman’s threshold you are, all that matters is you’re not clearing it. This isn’t new and pretty basic when it comes to heterosexual relations
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 11:42 PM
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It’s common sense. Like would a man want to fuck an ugly woman regularly? Not likely. Women are the same. You have to be attractive to your partner
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 11:38 PM
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No one ever said that looks mean nothing. You need to have the whole package. You have to do both, looks and social skills. Unless you’re doing both there is no room for complaining
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 11:34 PM
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The threshold is the same. Again being fuckable only means I view that man as a level above scum. If all you have is looks you mean literally nothing. I also don’t let men finish if it’s a one night/hook up situation. They get a tissue since they aren’t worth the risks. They also get a condom and spermicide. Also creativity in the bedroom isn’t happening within hookups as much as you think, too high risk low reward
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 11:30 PM
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Then what exactly is your issue? You know you’re unattractive to women at present so changing venues or techniques won’t help
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 11:25 PM
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If a man isn’t attractive there’s no amount of gaming the system that really changes that. It’s a universal for humans to only want to fuck humans they find attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 11:22 PM
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Then I don’t see what your issue is. If you’re unattractive to women you can’t expect them to fall all over you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 11:21 PM
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Because most men cannot read the room and do not recognize subtle rejection. In my life I’ve had one cold approach that was successfully executed on both the social cues and rejection front. I will always reject a cold approach as it’s purely looks based which is gross from the get go
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 11:20 PM
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My looks threshold is the same for any sexual encounter. There’s no separate categorization outside of you’re either only fuckable (aka a pathetic man outside of your looks) or relationship material. Idk why anyone would strive for being only fuckable and in counter to your point I’ve tried new things in a variety of sexual encounters and the LT partners always have the most room for creativity
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 11:18 PM
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If the problem is women find you unattractive there’s your solution right there. There’s no venue where women ignore looks entirely. So either improve your appearance and be a normal social human or continue to complain
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 11:14 PM
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Harboring secret feelings is on the same level of low quality. Having one quality person in the mix of throngs is nothing to write home about. As a woman any man who displays interest while knowing I’m in a relationship is literally just gross. Like lowest of the low. So having these simps is meaningless
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:18 AM
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Even tomboys do self maintenance. But if you’re a man who goes after a woman in a relationship you’re not really worth anything. Not the lowest of quality but far below average. There’s a huge connection between women having lots of simps and those purely being quantity. High quality men aren’t simps. If it was such a requirement, fat women wouldn’t have throngs of simps (they do)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:48 AM
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The assumption it’s mostly low quality men is usually the case. High quality men wouldn’t pine over a woman in a relationship, that’s the behavior of men with no other better prospects. Keeping a certain level of attractiveness for women takes more and more work as they age. Skincare, hair care, healthy eating and working out all take significant time. Even if you’re baseline attractive you still need to work on staying a healthy weight. I’m saying it’s not impressive to say women have throngs o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:23 AM
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Again just attracting men is quantity not quality. I have evidence that you settled by the way you negatively described the amount she shaved. Higher quality is in the eye of the beholder. Everyone has their own standards, but it typically results in putting more effort to attract said person. The traditional high quality male typically demands quite a bit of upkeep in terms of appearance. Most wealthy, attractive men have attractive wives, which takes significant effort. Simply attracting a mal…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 01:46 AM
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Not really it seems you settled for a woman who didn’t have the upkeep you either desired or thought typical of women. She apparently had other men interested in her but that truly speaks to men will fuck anything with a pulse that lets them. Higher quality men and women have higher expectations of their partners, so both sexes do things to attract what they feel is the best. I’d also argue shaving 2x per week is a lot of maintenance but you don’t. You also were clearly attracted to less mainten…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 01:01 AM
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Stream of suitors doesn’t imply quality it implies quantity. All your point proves is men will go for the hot hole they think they can get. Both sexes need to put in more effort for mutually desired relationships and then set boundaries on upkeep
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:34 AM
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If she shaved more than once a week she did more than most. And she was already in a relationship there’s little incentive to be over the top and hairless 24/7. You likely didn’t incentivize any more grooming than that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:29 AM
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Men valuing femininity doesn’t really matter though as it doesn’t really have any sort of pay out for women. Unless there’s an actual incentive outside “men like it” femininity will continue to decrease
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:24 AM
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Because of your phrasing of “maybe 1-2 a week”. You’re making it sound like she barely did any upkeep. Shaving 2x per week is a lot, especially if you’re including delicate pubic area skin. It’s pretty outlandish to expect women to shave more than 2x per week
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:22 AM
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Hold up…..do you really expect women to shave more than that?!? Wild
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:16 AM
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No but a male friend that expresses romantic interest has broken trust and can def not be considered more than a friend. It’s just gross when any friend expresses romantic interest, crosses so many lines
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 01:11 AM
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There’s an easy solution: don’t mix romance with platonic friends. I’m upfront with any male friends I have. I will absolutely never cross the platonic line, if they aren’t comfortable with sexual interest being 100% off the table they can leave. Honestly lusting after friends is an absolute betrayal of trust and crosses the line in every way
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:55 PM
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Simple, I tell my male platonic friends that under no circumstances will I ever view them romantically. So they can choose to leave or stay. But it’s not my job to manage their sexuality for them. I did have a male friend try to cross the line and I told him he’s no longer going to be a part of my life since he clearly has zero respect for my clearly communicated boundaries
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 04:34 PM
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