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No, they don’t want “confidence.” Lots of shy, introverted men are extremely confident, but they’re not brash and arrogant, so women aren’t attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 01:45 PM
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If they really wanted good relationships they would pursue and reward good men. They do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:55 AM
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Women don’t understand this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 03:14 AM
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Ask yourself why you think 95% of men are “creepy losers.” Statistically that’s not true, which means something is broken inside you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 02:35 AM
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Then why do so many women do it all the time? Why do women constantly spread their legs for Chad when Chad clearly doesn’t care about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 02:09 AM
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I’m not going to repost the data about women being attracted to psychopathic and narcissistic behavior. The data is there. It is factual. “I don’t know any women…” is not data. Women like psychopaths and narcissists. Fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:07 PM
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Personality is not the difference. We can prove this by looking at all the physically attractive men with horrible personalities who can always get a date. Women won’t give a chance to good men with good personalities if they aren’t physically attractive. Honestly it’s kind of weird we’re still debating this. Vile, good-looking men have all the women they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 05:51 PM
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Again, not exactly sure what point you’re making. The bottom line is this: Data shows that more men are sexless than women - and the number is rising. Data shows that women rate the majority of men as below average. Data shows that women want men who are taller than them and make more money than them. Data shows that women are attracted to destructive dark triad traits. These are not my opinion. They are facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 04:10 PM
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Not sure what you’re getting at. I know a lot of women from a broad spectrum of races and ethnicities. Literally not a single one has ever struggled for dates. Meanwhile I know many men who haven’t had sex in years.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:53 PM
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Even the gym isn’t going to help much if your face isn’t physically attractive, or you’re not tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:46 PM
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Yes, I know their dating history. And again, right to the “just shower bro” bullshit advice. The guys I know are professional, well dressed, normal people. But their faces aren’t physically attractive, and they’re not tall, so women reject them. Stop trying to argue that women are virtuous and care deeply about less superficial characteristics. They don’t, and we, as men, know they don’t. We see what women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:44 PM
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No. Being physically attractive is the most important thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:40 PM
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Genuinely cruel, deviant men. This type of man attracts a large percentage of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:39 PM
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Again, the idea that men who struggle with women somehow don’t see women as “whole people” is patently false. A HUGE percentage of men who have no problem getting laid and into relationships with women, absolutely loathe women - and these women don’t care, because the guy is hot. All men should treat all women with basic human respect, but stop acting like that’s the thing preventing struggling men from engaging in relationships with women. It’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:37 PM
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False. I’m exceptionally skilled socially (to the point where there are Google reviews praising my social skills) but the instant I try to escalate from that to flirting, women ignore me because of my looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:31 PM
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This isn’t true. I have literally never met a woman who had no options. I regularly meet men who have no options.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 03:29 PM
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I’m stronger, wealthier, and more educated than 99% of women. That’s just the statistics of who I am. And yet getting a date with a 5/10 is almost impossible. Women have lost their minds. I’ve never met so many people who bring so little to the table think so highly of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/22 03:19 AM
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Nearly impossible. And nearly all of that impossibility is linked to factors far beyond my control. Women’s general naivety about what men have to deal with to get…anything in the dating market is astounding.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 10:29 PM
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And I think it’s kind of weird you’re posting photos on the Internet to get validation from strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 06:04 AM
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You’re in decent but not amazing shape. Not sure what all the bros are simping about. This is why women get vastly overinflated views of their attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 04:33 AM
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It is crazy high. You just don’t even recognize all the men who don’t reach the bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:22 AM
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There are millions of good looking mentally ill or neurodivergent men who get laid at will. Because they’re good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 04:22 PM
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This is wildly off base. Women are extremely visual and DON’T need a strong connection. If your face is attractive, and you have big muscles and a nice car, do you think you’re going to have any problem getting laid? No, of course not. Because you have all the visual things women want. Personality is largely irrelevant in attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 10:44 AM
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The problem is for some significant percentage of guys, sex is not “getable,” no matter how hard they try, unless they pay for it. This is what causes problems. If the dating and sexual markets were more equitable, there would be few problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 03:13 AM
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I mean this isn’t true. I know lots of guys who struggle to get a single date - myself included - and social skills has zero to do with it. I’m out several nights a week, have a big friend group, am friendly, fun to hang out with, but getting a single date is like pulling teeth. My bet is women don’t even “see” the tons of average-looking guys who are cool and out and about. Honestly, I don’t know a single person whose social skills are problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/22 03:49 PM
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Hahaha I’m sure you’re right. It just doesn’t work for me. And I’ve tried hard! It’s actually funny at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:55 PM
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I did! It’s always perplexed me, too. I like women and enjoy socializing, but actually getting into relationships, getting laid, or even just going on a date or two, has always been beyond me. I don’t actually know what the deal is. There’s not any “problem” that I’m aware. Women just aren’t attracted to me, and it doesn’t seem to matter what I do or don’t do. I flirt. I ask them out. They say no.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:50 PM
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Lifting and eating healthy are both great! Guys should do those things. But I would caution against suggesting that’s going to help with attracting women. I love to lift - there was a span in my life where I didn’t miss a gym day for 2 years - but it literally did nothing to get me laid. And I was social and active that whole time. Literally did not have sex those 2 years. Yes, if you go from being a slob to being in great shape, women will probably notice. But if you’re not visibly fat and alre…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:34 PM
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Honestly it’s rare that I see a genuinely attractive woman. There are a decent number of Instagram-type hotties where I live, but I don’t find that particularly attractive. Now that I’m over 30, finding a passably attractive woman has been rough. I’m not saying men age better - I don’t think they do - but, man, finding a 6/10, 35 year-old woman just doesn’t happen. Once a year? Maybe? There’s a drastic drop off in attractiveness after late 20s/early 30s. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a 40 year ol…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 10:25 PM
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False. Good looks, status, and money get her off. Not an average schlub who’s a bit better than average at sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 08:59 PM
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Only 20% of men - or less - can get the sex and relationships they desire. A man finally getting a wife at 40 because she’s old and has no options is not a romantically successful man by any definition of the word.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:52 AM
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Women engage in false advertising to boost their apparent attractiveness. Men don’t do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:50 AM
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Nope. Women love it when men look physically attractive. A guy can have the most impressive goals and plans in the world but if he’s not hot, no woman will touch him.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 01:48 PM
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Sex. She is nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 03:52 PM
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I didn’t say they don’t do those things. I said they aren’t attracted to them. There’s a huge difference. And spare me the “go outside” advice. Dude. It is precisely because I do have an active social life and do interact with women regularly that I understand what triggers sexual attraction in them. And it’s not hiking.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 05:11 PM
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Well intentioned but awful advice. Women aren’t attracted to fun hobbies. They don’t care what books you read. They don’t care about your interests. They care about how you look and how much money you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 04:58 PM
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Women don’t care about passion. They care about the end result of passion, which is status and money. Be passionate about knitting. See how many times that gets you laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 04:01 PM
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There are zero problems with standards. Problems arise when people demand far beyond what they themselves offer. Men’s standards are: 1) nice to me 2) not gross Women’s standards are: 1) much taller than me 2) in better shape than me 3) richer than me 4) higher status than me, etc. etc. etc. See the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 03:58 PM
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This exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 03:17 PM
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Because the world has inflated women’s standards and attraction triggers beyond what they should healthily be. When every woman thinks she deserves a fit, tall, attractive man, the problem isn’t with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/22 01:59 PM
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I’ve seen this take here a few times now and it’s wildly different from what I seen in my social circle and day to day life. The men I interact with regularly are UMC, at the very least above average in attractiveness, and well put together. The women they are with are...completely unremarkable. Like, in every way. The most common pairing around here is a woman who is a 5-6, MAX, even when completely dolled up, dating a 5’10” - 6’2” attractive white guy with a very good career.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 03:05 PM
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I’m fine with this. But then a woman absolutely has no right complaining when she turns 35 and her boyfriend dumps her for a 24 year old. After all, leagues don’t exist, right? All that matters is two people deciding they’re attracted to each other, right? Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/22 12:01 PM
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lol what? They’re famous because they’re exceptionally talented entertainers. Not because women want to fuck them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:54 PM
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...you are taking about some of the most famous and recognizable people in the world. Women like extremely rich and famous men. News at 10. Again, extreme outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 09:49 PM
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Absolutely do not do this. Women will tell you what they think you want to hear - not what actually attracts them.
/r/seduction22/03/22 08:23 PM
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Nope. Like I said, we watch what you do, not what you say. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 06:38 PM
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Are there outliers? Of course. But no reasonable human makes decisions in their life based on outliers. 99%+ of men would have sex with a thin, blond woman with big tits. 99%+ of women would fuck Channing Tatum, no questions asked. If you want to argue about the .001% who wouldn’t, go ahead, I guess. I don’t even know why this is a point of contention. Heterosexual men know what women go after. We see it with our eyes every day. Stop denying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 06:04 PM
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It’s literally true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 05:23 PM
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lol okay
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 05:23 PM
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Because they don’t experience it differently. There are zero heterosexual women on earth who wouldn’t fuck Channing Tatum within an hour of meeting him. There are very, very few women on earth (zero?) who would ever fuck a 5 foot tall, balding janitor with burn scars. Stop pretending women have widely varied attraction triggers. Women want to fuck hot, tall guys with muscles. That’s it. It’s not more complicated than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 03:31 PM
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I’ve 5’7 and thin and those two things have always been - by far - my biggest hurdle to attracting women. They just don’t give a shit that I exist. And I’m, otherwise, top 1% in everything. I obviously can’t change the height thing and even though I lift regularly I sort of have a soccer player’s/middle distance runner’s body. I look better than everybody naked but I look “thin” just walking around. It’s a really shitty feeling to be invisible because of things out of your control.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/22 12:17 AM
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Lmao tall guys are awkward as fuck and usually look weird. You ever see a tall guy run? Funniest shit ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 07:48 PM
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You’re a fucking midget and dating a guy almost a foot and a half taller than you. Dating is broken lmao. Ya’ll both must look SUPER weird together.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/22 07:43 PM
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Don’t put fucking words in my mouth either. How is it even a debate that how your face looks and your height are by far the most important factors to getting laid? Do you honestly think other factors matter more than looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 01:15 AM
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You’re really saying the genes people are born with and have no control over are an “excuse”?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 01:08 AM
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You proved no “case,” clown.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 10:56 PM
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Because even with great fashion and an engaging personality you will go sexless if you aren’t tall and good looking. I really don’t understand why we keep debating this shit. Good looking face = get laid frequently Not good looking face = very difficult/impossible to get laid The rest doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 10:01 PM
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We watch what you do, not what you say. What you say is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 09:49 PM
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It is very accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 09:42 PM
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Your writing is so poor it’s hard to decide what your point is. Good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 09:29 PM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 09:24 PM
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Yeah this isn’t true, lady. “Lots” of women do NOT like very thin men. There have been times in my life where I was about 135 pounds, and I literally didn’t have sex for years at that weight. Nothing else had changed about me. I was just thin. Women are VERY judgmental about how men look, much more so then men are to women. We like a variety of women at a variety of different heights and weights. Women overwhelmingly want one type of man. They’ll only settle when they know their options are gone…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 09:23 PM
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I’m going to provide a dissenting opinion. Getting in sick shape was one thing that didn’t get me results with women. There was a time in my life where I lifted 3-4 times a week for 4 years. I had a body like Ronaldo...and chicks were kind of meh about it. I did just as well when I was totally sedentary and sitting on my ass. Facial attractiveness is WAY more important than how your body looks. Basically you can’t be obese, and you can’t look grossly thin. But honestly, beyond that, I don’t thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 09:17 PM
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The most accurate way to phrase this is women care about looks MOST and nothing is more important than looks when attracting a woman. Does she care about other stuff? If the guy is hot enough and tall enough, no she doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 05:56 PM
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The worst thing you can be around women is “normal.” “Normal” guys rarely get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 02:56 PM
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Wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 01:27 PM
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Wrong. Wrong on so many levels. Women want outliers in: height, physical attractiveness, status, money, everything. They don’t want men who are “moderately attractive and actively trying to do something with their life.”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 01:26 PM
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You’re delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 01:16 PM
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There is no 6’3”, mega hot guy coming to sweep you off your feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 12:33 PM
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Eh, not sure I agree with this. You need looks to get your foot in the door. Confidence, posture, etc. keep you there once the door’s open.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 05:41 AM
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Of course you like assholes. The single best thing a man can do to sexually attract women is to treat them poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 05:34 AM
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It’s not worth a well thought out response, clown.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 03:20 PM
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There isn’t a solution. They’re going to have a very difficult time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 03:12 PM
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Very little of this is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 02:47 PM
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Sure I have positive platonic female friendships. I have zero sexual interest in those women, though. In fact, they sort of repulse me sexually. I’d never be just friends with a woman I found even vaguely physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 02:40 PM
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Reported. Most male bodies are unattractive? Take your shaming language somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 02:36 PM
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Legitimate question for everyone here: Any of you see a noticeable difference in success with women after lifting consistently? I’m not talking about “I think more chicks look at me.” I’m talking demonstrable improvement. “Just lift, bro” is actually the one piece of advice that hasn’t worked for me. I lifted for two years straight, consistently, and got in amazing shape. And women just didn’t seem to give a fuck. Now I lift because I like it, but it seems to do dick all about me, getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/22 01:45 AM
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Agreed with this. I did almost literally nothing to get with the women I eventually got with. For the rest of them, it seemed like it truly didn’t matter what I did. They weren’t into me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 02:49 PM
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Because so many people are obstreperous assholes. It’s not a positive thing to be difficult, confrontational, and brash.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/22 02:29 PM
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...Yes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:49 PM
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I think guys who think their 30s are all of a sudden going to be a poon circus are probably going to be disappointed. But, in contrast, it’s also not that hard to pick up women in their 20s when you’re 30 to 40. I’m on the higher end of that range and am texting with a good looking girl who’s 20 right now. She initiated things. I’m average height, average face, in decent shape, and have a cool career and good people skills. I’d imagine a genuinely attractive guy in the 30-45 age range could crus…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/22 02:53 AM
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This makes sense, except in my case, it kind of doesn’t lol I regularly go months or years without any action from women, except when something does happen, the woman is usually very attractive. Like 7 or 8. Serious question: What am I supposed to do with this information? If I can get women who most guys would kill to be with, except it only happens rarely, what does that say about me?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 05:09 PM
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It’s asinine to ask women this question. “Unattractive” for all women responding in this thread is a 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 01:54 AM
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I don’t necessarily disagree with what you’re saying, but none of it matters if you can’t get past the looks filter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 01:51 AM
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Stop trying to get men to think settling is normal. It’s not. We’re not settling for post-30, unattractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 01:28 PM
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Awful, garbage advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 01:25 PM
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Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 01:24 PM
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You: “Being a shitty, irresponsible person is hot.”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 01:17 PM
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But that’s exactly what you think: You think you are entitled to men significantly better/more attractive than you. Dating is broken because women who are 6s with full make up on, on their best day, think they are owed the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 03:05 AM
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Agree to disagree. And I am probably older than you, so consider that YOU haven’t lived long enough to see the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 05:01 AM
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“IRL” dating is a DISASTER and has gotten so much worse since everything went online. I’m a bit older than most people here and a decade or so ago you could get solid success by shooting your shot in normal, social environments. Ten years later, I struggle to get a single date, despite improving in literally every objective way a human can improve. Women’s standards are insane and their levels of narcissism are off the charts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 04:38 AM
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I don’t spend a lot of time online and it is patently false to say women go for all kinds of men. I have a very active social life, and, if nothing else, interacting with women has proved to me just how monolithic they are when it comes to their attraction to men. They want tall, good looking, conventionally attractive guys. Are there exceptions? Sure. But exceptions aren’t the norm. The norm is women of all ages chasing the same small percentage of men. It so predictable it’s laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 04:31 AM
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False.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 01:54 PM
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I have literally never met a woman over 35 who I felt strong physical attraction to. Yes, women absolutely do lose their looks, and it usually happens at around 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/22 03:40 AM
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Nah. People don’t choose their genes, which is the only thing that determines whether you can “sex it up” or not. Your choices are largely irrelevant. See: every deadbeat and sociopathic good-looking guy who gets laid at will.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 05:33 PM
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I exist in an affluent area of the Northeast and have a healthy social life. All of the men I know who don’t have a girlfriend or who haven’t had sex in years have good jobs and a life. But they aren’t physically attractive or tall, so women act as if they don’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 05:11 PM
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What? Dual mating strategy is alerting men to the fact that aging, 28 year-old women are not a good choice for marriage. Do you not see the utility in understanding women’s dual mating strategy? It spares men a lifetime of misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 05:06 PM
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“Base threshold” is very physically attractive and tall. Data shows that women rate 80% of men as unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 06:33 PM
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Agree to disagree then, I guess. The men I know who have regular dating and sex lives do have questionable people skills and don’t have much value aside from being tall and physically attractive. The idea that women somehow value men’s personality highly is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 06:30 PM
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Are you nuts? Very few guys meet women’s standards for sexual attractiveness. Why do you think so many guys can’t get a date or sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 05:35 PM
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I see this take all the time but it’s the opposite of what I experience in real life. I can think of very few average looking, average height guys in relationships, and I know zero guys like that who can get laid with any regularity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 05:34 PM
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Wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 08:34 PM
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No, they don’t. Or at the very least, women care about looks far more than any other quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 08:34 PM
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What about it? People have always said, “when you’re older you’ll want to settle down.” I am older. I don’t want to settle down. Romantic relationships with women are a net negative to me. So I don’t do them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:40 PM
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It doesn’t stand to reason that at all. Women are more likely to be sexually experimental with men who they find hot. And if you think comfort equals good, regular sex, then I invite you to read any one of the hundreds of threads on this website where sex in a relationship got bad precisely because of comfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:14 PM
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I haven’t experienced a big difference either way. I dated one woman for about a year. She was always frigid. For my longest relationship we had good sex the first night.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:53 PM
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I’m early 40s and while getting laid certainly isn’t my “purpose in life,” I have zero desire for a monogamous relationship and would be happy having sex a handful of times a month with attractive women. Women have a tough time stomaching that a lifetime spent with them is often unappealing at best and nightmarish at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:32 PM
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This is patently false. The best sex I’ve ever had was with women who had the tightest bodies and prettiest faces, even if we barely knew each other. Sex very frequently becomes unenjoyable the more I know them and see them naked.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:14 PM
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Its’s not? There’s nothing wrong with either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 02:34 PM
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Because want to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 02:23 PM
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No they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 02:53 PM
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Correct. Men are unsuccessful in dating because of things they can’t change.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 02:49 PM
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I have literally never met a very attractive women who was also intelligent and kind. Which makes sense. Not many people win the lottery Most women who are 8s and 9s are comically fucking stupid and cruel on top of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 02:47 PM
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Wrong. You’re attracted to looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 03:59 AM
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Personality doesn’t matter at all. It is not a factor in a woman’s decision to fuck you. I can’t even believe we’re having this discussion. Literal serial killers get laid on the regular because they have physically attractive faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 03:57 AM
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This is all fine and good, as long as you understand the flip side is also true? You want a good husband? Maintain a pleasant personality. Keep your body tight and in shape. Address signs of aging. Earn good money. Don’t nag. It works both ways, and few women are up to maintaining their end.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 05:02 PM
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lol no
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 03:02 PM
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...except your lived experience doesn’t matter, because data proves women only chase the very top men. This is why so many women end up hurt or unsatisfied. Of course Chad doesn’t give a fuck about you. He can do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 03:00 PM
1

...right. That’s exactly my point. You were dating a Chad with options and he didn’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 03:43 AM
4

You’re right. Women not being empathetic means they aren’t empathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 05:40 PM
6

Leave the poor guy alone and stop trying to make this about you. It’s such typical female narcissism. Stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 03:43 AM
14

This is exactly correct. Women lack empathy, so they won’t listen to you. But this response should be stickied.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 03:42 AM
4

Women’s outrageous standards and desire for only the top 2% of men, even though they themselves are average or below.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 03:40 AM
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It’s astonishing the women in this thread think the problem is men somehow don’t know about your anatomy, or are bad at sex. No, men simply don’t care. If you only fuck Chad and ignore normal guys, you get the result your deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 03:30 AM
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*and are also tall, physically attractive, and wealthy
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 03:17 AM
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You are literally citing celebrity men worth tens of millions of dollars, psycho. Yeah, it’s totally our “personalities” holding us back. Jesus women are insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 01:03 AM
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Yes, all women want tall men with big dicks. What women are physically attractive enough to get is a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 05:05 PM
3

This isn’t true. Women - and humans - are not nearly as unique as they think they are. The things that attract women can be broken down into a few simple categories. It’s just a basic algorithm. No more complicated than that. Women are not complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 05:04 PM
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Can’t believe you don’t understand the reason fewer divorced women remarry than man. It’s not because divorced women don’t want to get remarried. It’s because no one will have them. A woman who’s past 30 and divorced is deeply unattractive to all but the weakest men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 04:06 PM
1

Wrong. Every woman wants Chad. There are no exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 02:41 PM
1

Both of these are false. Awful advice. Hot guys don’t have to be comfortable with themselves. They don’t have to take women on adventures. They don’t have to be “exciting.” Stop telling guys to make “improvements” that won’t help them get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 02:24 PM
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I don’t need to be better than her exes in every single category. But I do need to be better than them on the whole. If a woman thinks, “This is the best all around guy I’ve been with,” the relationship at least has a chance. I think the exception to this is if she had an ex so far above average in one particular category that no other guy could come close. Like, if she’s seriously dated a legit male model, I think that woman is going to have trouble forming lasting relationships with guys, even…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 11:45 PM
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lol okay lady
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 11:08 AM
1

No they aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 10:57 AM
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All men need is some combination of good looks, height, and money to attract women. Women aren’t deep. Stop trying to pretend they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:32 AM
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Because I still want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 02:15 PM
2

For me it’s always been mostly a looks things. I still meet a good number of 30 year old women I’d date or have sex with. I literally cannot think of the last 40-something woman I had even a little bit of attraction to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 06:00 PM
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*defense And so pathetic that you have to parrot my own language back at me because you’re not clever enough to come up with your own. pats head There, there, low-value female. It’ll be okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 02:06 PM
2

Women only find men in the 8 - 10 range attractive. The problem isn’t men; it’s people of your sex who don’t know their lane. Ya’ll think because an 8 out of 10 will fuck you, you’re an 8 out of 10. Wrong. Wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:57 PM
2

You all act the same. You all care about looks, height, and money more than anything else. We know how superficial women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 01:42 PM
1

We’re not?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 03:10 PM
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Which says a lot about the men she dates and very little about men in general. So an extremely unattractive female like her has bad experiences with men. Huge fucking surprise there. It says nothing about men as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 10:57 AM
1

Also not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 10:55 AM
1

Because they very frequently don’t tell the truth. If women gave advice that actually worked and helped men get laid more frequently, don’t you think men would take that advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 10:47 AM
2

And women bring much less. Aging bodies and faces, unattractive personalities, few interests outside of social media, little or no talent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 10:42 AM
1

This is 100% false. Putting on makeup isn’t “improving your looks.” It’s a lie. That’s not how you look. And yes, men absolutely do care how women look straight out of the shower. That’s the thing we care about most. We know that, if we’re in a relationship with you, what we’re going to be seeing most of the time is the version of you that just got out of the shower. This is why sex with so many women is a let down. We see you without any of the tricks and it’s totally unremarkable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 04:08 AM
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The difference is men may want the 10/10, but they know they won’t get her. Average women actually think they deserve a high value man and will hold out for that man, when their equivalent is a 5’6” accountant with thinning hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 03:58 AM
2

You just rattled off a dozen different excellent characteristics and you still don’t think that’s top 1%? Jesus Christ. No wonder dating is broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 06:43 PM
1

Being very physically attractive is the second most important qualification to me, second only to kindness. I wouldn’t consider a relationship with a woman I didn’t find beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 04:13 PM
4

So literally in the top 1% of men. Totally reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 04:01 PM
1

Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 12:01 AM
1

I’m in shape and I expect any woman I’m going to be seen with to be the same. It’s astonishing how many women this one requirement eliminates. Women, how are so many of you just not even remotely fit at 30 years old? I usually don’t get to many of my other filters because most of the time it’s like, “Welp, she’s more than 150 pounds. Not gonna work.”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 07:15 PM
3

Jada is in no way sexually attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:07 PM
3

Bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:46 PM
3

And what does the guy get in return?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:27 PM
3

You: “Money, money, money.”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:23 PM
1

Yes, it is just about money, status, and height.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:19 PM
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It’s only dry as a desert because you don’t acknowledge the men that are in your league. These are 3-6s. Most people are average, and you are, too. Ask out the 4 with a decent job and you won’t have any trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:19 PM
1

It’s because most women have outrageous standards both for physical appearance, and for wealth and status. It’s not more complicated than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:42 PM
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If you mean holding the door for a woman at Dunkins because it’s a kind thing to do? Of course I’d do that without expecting anything. I also have a couple close woman friends who I do things for/with. I expect nothing from them sexually. In fact, the thought of having sex with them is physically repulsing. Guys that do shit like the guy did with you are weak. He should have just asked you without doing anything for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:36 PM
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Not sure what universe you live in. The only men I know who struggle with women are physically unattractive, and none of them can get a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 11:35 PM
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You literally just said what comes out of women’s mouths has nothing to do with what goes on in their heads. ...and we’re the autistic ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:14 PM
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Ohh got it, so now you’re going with, “Men have to be mind readers.” Cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 06:05 PM
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“Look at how nice those curtains are!” Isn’t he handsome?” “That ring is gorgeous.” Women care about how things look, more than the majority of any other characteristic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:43 PM
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This is one of the most delusional posts on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:07 PM
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Not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 04:03 PM
2

Yes they do. That’s all they care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:18 PM
2

Wrong. Also, shut the fuck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 03:16 PM
4

No one cares.
/r/seduction18/01/22 04:46 AM
2

If you were really confident in your worth, would you feel the need to tell everyone you’re confident in your worth?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 03:19 PM
1

😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 01:21 PM
1

Men, on the whole, are more attractive than women. It’s astonishing how much false advertising women use. There are VERY few women that look good naked with no makeup. VERY few.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 02:00 PM
5

It’s the single most important thing, along with facial attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 03:17 PM
1

I mean that last sentence isn’t true.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 01:05 PM
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No, you think you know good women. You have no idea what they say or do when you aren’t around.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 07:22 PM
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There’s not one thing in particular that happened. I don’t even consider myself MGTOW. I have yet to find a compelling reason to get married. I’ve asked people, point blank, why a man should get married, and they can’t argue their point logically. Also, having to see the same woman naked for a long time sounds like hell to me. That alone is enough reason never to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 07:14 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 06:24 PM
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Nope, the problem isn’t men, it’s women. Stop trying to blame men for women’s shortcomings. OLD will only improve when most women learn there’s nothing special about them. Most women, by definition, are average, and therefore only deserve men in the 4-5 range. OLD broke dating because it made 4/10 women think they were 9s.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 06:22 PM
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Because I’m a fucking weasel, bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 02:40 AM
1

Like “shy, nerdy guys.”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 01:51 PM
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Putting everything else aside, I find it actually insane that anyone would volunteer themselves to have sex with the same person forever. Sex with the same woman gets goddamn boring after, like, a few months. I cannot imagine how it feels after decades. I’ve always been so curious as to what married couples sex lives are actually like 20 years down the line. Throw in aging, and it sounds like literal hell to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 04:51 AM
2

No.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:43 PM
1

lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:08 PM
1

Conventionally attractive, but he has nerdier hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:07 PM
0

Lol no you don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:01 PM
4

Probably the most honest answer on this thread. You want a hot douche, which is what the majority of women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:00 PM
2

This means nothing. Dating a hot nerd isn’t any different than dating a hot Chad. You still want a very physically attractive guy, you just are open to him playing video games. Big fucking deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 09:59 PM
1

lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 09:58 PM
10

Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 02:45 PM
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Not true. And it’s gaslighting to suggest most guys don’t put effort into their appearance. Almost all guys put effort into their appearance, they just don’t end up looking like Channing Tatum. Which is what female 5s think they deserve. Stop being fucking daft.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 02:45 PM
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All of my friends are exceptionally bright and our intelligence never leads to heated arguments. Because we can, you know, control our emotions. “Disagreeableness” does not have a high correlation with intelligence when the person in question is actually an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 02:01 PM
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Metro NYC area
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 10:16 PM
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We’re going to have to agree to disagree here. Where I’m from, the men who struggle just aren’t tall enough or physically attractive enough to get laid. They’re all “well groomed,” have good hygiene, have good jobs, and a fun social life. But women are superficial, and they want their guys to be as physically attractive as possible. This leaves out some significant percentage of otherwise eligible men. I actually don’t even know why saying this is controversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 09:16 PM
4

Height, facial attractiveness. The things women care about most.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 06:37 PM
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All else aside, this isn’t true. At least where I’m from, the vast majority of men dress well and have good hygiene. The men who have a tough time dating are in that position because of the traits they were born with, not the traits they can change.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 02:47 PM
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This is a great question. Because I have no fucking idea. My girlfriends - and they are few in number - have all been like hard 7s or better. But I regularly go months or even years without getting so much as a single date. OLD is a nightmare for me. So I have no idea what my “equal” even would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:02 AM
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5’7”. Tinder has always been a wasteland for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 01:58 AM
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I have a couple good female friends and I wouldn’t fuck them if you paid me. I don’t allow chicks to friendzone me. If we both mutually want friendship, cool. But if I make a romantic advance and you reject me, I’ll instantly block you on every platform that exists and never acknowledge that you exist again.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 07:36 PM
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Nobody is bitter. I’m telling you what you’re saying is false. Attitude doesn’t make people look better. Looking better helps people look better, and most of looks is what you’re born with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 06:50 PM
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I literally do every single thing you mentioned, save for putting on make up. Most of the guys I know do, too. It’s irrelevant, because those things don’t change your height and the bone structure in your face, which are the things women care about above all else.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:28 PM
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There’s so much terrible “advice” here I don’t know where to start. Women are attracted to things that guys can’t change: height and facial structure. That’s what matters. That’s what counts. You think the assholes getting laid left and right really care about face serums? Give me a break.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 03:22 PM
2

Everything else in this thread aside, “understanding how to be attractive” is 90% what you’re born with.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 04:00 PM
4

I think it would be shitty to say you loved your wife less or cared about her less after she had kids. But pure physical attraction? Who in their right mind would say pregnancy increases that, or keeps it the same? I mean if your husband rapidly gained 30-50 pounds, would your physical attraction to him really stay the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 04:24 AM
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My problem is more that I’m simply going to lose physical attraction to almost any woman over time, pregnancy notwithstanding. It’s one of the biggest reasons (the biggest?) I don’t think I’ll ever get married. It’s just not that awesome to keep having sex with the same person indefinitely, particularly when most people don’t get more attractive as time passes. Women’s friendship and company has much more value to me than the physical end, which honestly is not that awesome from like 95% of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 04:20 AM
1

Yeah I completely disagree with this. Women aren’t turned on by men who “have stuff going on.” That’s actually a really weird assertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 04:06 PM
1

No. There are a lot of reasons not to get married, even if you find your “dream girl.”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 02:45 PM
3

They aren’t saying the part that’s true but would show their true colors if they said it. “There are no tall, very physically attractive men on dating apps who want to commit to me.”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 08:57 PM
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Nope. Not bitter. Just stating fact. Can you explain what, exactly, you disagree with? Or are you just going to go straight to an ad hominem?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 09:31 PM
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But it’s not hard for women though. At least in comparison to men. Men’s struggles and women’s struggles are in no way the same. Women: “I have to put in some effort to get the man of my dreams, all the while choosing from a buffet of men who offer themselves up to me.” Men: “I have to put in a Herculean amount of work, workout 3-5 times a week, get my style and hygiene perfect, advance in my career, AND bear the burden of asking women out every single time...and even then women might not acknow…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 09:25 PM
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Putting aside everything else in this thread, this is objectively not true. Women are just as visual - if not more so - than men. No hobby or career, barring piles of money, is making a guy more attractive to women. Men can’t make up for their looks in other areas. This is one of those tired tropes that needs to die. Women want hot, tall men. Full stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 09:16 PM
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It has nothing to do with my definition of average. The average male in the U.S. is 5’9”, 197 pounds, and makes $37,000/ year. It doesn’t matter if you disagree with that definition. You’re wrong. Statistics are right. You’re telling me the average man has no problem getting laid and entering relationships? Come on now. A 5’9”, 197 pound, $37k guy is going to have few to no options. All women chase the best men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 04:40 PM
0

lol no
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 03:59 PM
1

I don’t see “average” guys in relationships or getting laid. What women think is average and what is actually average are two different things. “Tee-hee my guy is only 5’11” and makes $85k a year. He’s so average!”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 03:51 PM
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If guys fail on a date it’s always because of their looks. Tall, hot guys don’t get rejected, even if their personality is garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 03:41 PM
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I don’t know why guys would think women are lying about anything. Women make it abundantly clear what they care about above all else is: height, facial attractiveness, and money/social status. I have literally never heard a woman say, “I want a 5’6” guy with an average job who doesn’t look that good.” The qualities women select for are largely superficial, and they are very up front about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 03:39 PM
1

It’s not as simple as “just date people as ugly as you.” Because the “as ugly as you woman” will still chase men much better than her, and get them, sometimes, for short term flings. And then she thinks that’s what her league is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 08:02 PM
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The most enlightening thing about this thread is that the basic tenets of the 80/20 rule are EXACTLY correct. Sure, the math might not be precise, but the dating market is clearly broken up into two groups: Those who can have sex more or less whenever they want, and everybody else. I’m not much into the black pill, but it’s hard not to see that there are just some people who will always be able to have the romantic life that they want and everybody else. Honestly, if you held a gun to my head th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 03:28 PM
1

Yeah but few women make a lot of money, so this translates into, “Any woman can seek out a guy more wealthy than her and it’s fine.”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 10:16 PM
2

I agree with this take. I’m in an affluent part of the U.S. known for pretty good looking people and I often go days or weeks without seeing a woman who’s genuinely good looking. If I’m hanging out in a mixed sex environment, the guys are certainly on par with - and often better looking - than the women. The only exception seems to be with younger women, about 21-24. These women tend to look noticeably better than the guys. Once you get closer to 30 though, no way women on a whole look better. O…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:10 AM
-1

Because women have standards they can’t meet themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 11:35 AM
15

How many people have been to the moon? Less than .00000000001%. Generalization: Most people haven’t been to the moon. Accurate. That’s how generalizations work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 02:15 PM
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There are millions of striped bass in the ocean. Once you know a few basic rules, you can catch as many as you’d like. Humans are not unique snowflakes. It’s easy to generalize about them - and have the generalizations be accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 01:50 PM
1

Your “generality” isn’t grounded in data. Most people do get what they want. Unless you don’t count the millions of LTRs and marriages around the world as people “getting what they want.” Part of being a confident human is not settling for less than what you want. Of course if someone really enjoys paying for a first date, or having sex very quickly, that’s a whole other discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 03:14 PM
2

This is entirely false. I’ve hooked up with (and LTR’d) plenty of women who I literally didn’t take out or spend one cent on until I knew I was getting exactly what I wanted, how I wanted it, when I wanted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 02:43 PM
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Well I mean yeah, if you put absolutely zero effort into approaching, it’s going to be harder. But if you check all the boxes you say you do, all you really have to do is talk to women and get out of your own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 11:43 PM
2

I think it’s reasonable to think of attractiveness as a bell curve. Percentage? I dunno. 20-30% of men are probably far enough below average that it’s not going to be worth the effort because the overwhelming majority of women won’t find them attractive, no matter what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 11:30 PM
1

Agreed. I think my only point is that, for some percentage of dudes, their genetics are so poor that the amount of hard work they’d have to put in to get even modest success in the dating market simply makes it not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 11:08 PM
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I think it depends on what degree of awkwardness. If we’re talking extreme, don’t leave your house awkwardness, yeah of course that guy isn’t going to get laid. But I’ve seen tall, good looking men who couldn’t look women in the eye go home with the hottest chick from the bar. If the guy looks good, the woman isn’t going to care about much else. And certainly not that he’s awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 10:54 PM
8

You haven’t seen hot guys getting laid? I honestly didn’t think this was controversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 10:36 PM
7

If they’re good looking, they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 10:33 PM
5

No. It doesn’t have anything to do with social manner. Hot, awkward guys still get laid whenever they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 10:30 PM
1

30 and 43 is totally normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 12:27 PM
3

I only date physically attractive women with tight bodies who are kind. So no.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 12:21 PM
0

We don’t need to ask. Women can’t hide their promiscuity, even when they try.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 08:06 PM
1

No.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 02:26 PM
0

The idea that women only chase a small percentage of men doesn’t die because it’s true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 12:59 PM
5

This is gaslighting. It’s the typical “if you’re not getting laid it’s because you stay inside and play video games all day.” Dating is broken because women broke it. Never have so many female 4s thought they were 9s.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 12:29 PM
3

Average and below-average women are just as narcissistic as above-average women and won’t date their counterparts. They’ll spread their legs for Chad, though. This then excludes a large portion of men from the SMP and RMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 12:07 PM
15

I don’t tolerate a lack of sex at all. Yeah, if she’s horribly ill, of course that’s a valid excuse. But barring some extreme circumstances, we’re going to be fucking a bare minimum 3-5 times per week, and usually more. I won’t seek it elsewhere. I’ll just dump her with no hesitation if the sex isn’t frequent, varied, and what I like.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 12:59 PM
2

Jesus. How do you go through 6 bodies in a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 09:11 PM
1

Most military men aren’t strong. They are, by definition, followers. They take orders. They’re told what to do and have no choice but to listen. They only have salaries because of taxpayers. Not strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 02:06 PM
1

The only answer that’s relevant is how long are guys willing to wait. And that answer is not long. I’d wait 2-3 weeks, max, after meeting a woman. Maaaaaayyybe a month if contact during that time isn’t extensive. There are too many hot women out there who will fuck quickly for me to spend more than a month waiting for sex, during which time I’m likely expending the most money and effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 12:20 AM
4

Women have gotten better at using false advertising. They are not actually more attractive. I’d argue that on the whole they’ve gotten less attractive, but the use of push-up bras, make up, plastic surgery, and social media (where you can curate...everything) is much more widespread.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 07:30 PM
1

Women not thinking they’re more attractive than they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 12:03 AM
1

If you’re talking about what I would literally do, I’d try to comfort her/listen. If you’re talking about how this would affect my attraction for her, it wouldn’t. My only qualifications for a woman are for her to be as physically attractive as possible, nice, and have at least half a brain. Whether she cries a lot or not at all is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 05:56 PM
1

Women telling on themselves in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 04:48 PM
0

I mean spanking, tying a woman up, and hair pulling aren’t crazy...at all. There is zero pain involved when done correctly. If you aren’t doing those things in bed then what are you even doing? Like just make out a little, maybe oral, PIV, and then that’s it? Every time? I’m not saying women should want to be shat upon or whatever during sex but a little ass slapping barely even moves the needle into sexually dominant territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 04:16 AM
1

I don’t disagree. The problem is why they aren’t feeling it. That has very little to do with men and almost everything to do with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 06:46 PM
2

Women need to ask themselves why men “very rarely” stand out when, by definition, roughly the same number of men and women are average. Women don’t deserve rare. They deserve common, because that’s what they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 05:37 PM
2

Not many men qualify because women have become increasingly more narcissistic with the prevalence of online dating and social media. Women think they’re better than they are. The problem is with women’s egos, not men’s efforts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:17 PM
3

No. This is so wrong it’s not worth acknowledging.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 03:56 PM
1

This isn’t about me. The chubby nerd girl is free to approach the chubby nerd guy if she wants attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 12:09 AM
6

Men keep getting rejected because of their looks. It’s not complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 01:24 PM
1

This just isn’t true. Pretty much every below average looking man is prevented from having sex because of his looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 01:20 PM
0

It’s not a race per se, I just don’t get as much from sex as other people seem to. Even with the hottest woman who I’ve ever been with, who I cared about a good deal, sex was, at best, pretty good. Maybe a better way to describe it is, aside from the actual act of ejaculating, the rest of it doesn’t feel like anything special.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 02:11 AM
1

Since I rarely cum from them, not really. They’re fine. It can take literally more than half an hour for a blowjob to do anything for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 02:04 AM
1

This resonates with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 01:38 AM
1

Because foreplay isn’t the best part for a lot of us. I don’t want to make out with you for more than 5 minutes. It’s not that enjoyable. I want to cum.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 01:36 AM
3

I’ve found almost every sexual encounter I’ve ever had not as good as my brain was anticipating/hoping for. Seeing women in carefully selected clothing with perfect makeup and then seeing them naked is often disappointing. Also, most women get male attention heaped on them all day, so they’ve never actually had to become good at sex. Finally, most women are decidedly unadventurous in bed. I’m still motivated enough to pursue sex but about the best I ever hope for is good enough. There are very f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 01:35 AM
1

I don’t believe many (any?) men want monogamy. It’s so boring seeing the same woman naked, having sex with the same woman. The main reason most men choose monogamy is that they simply can’t get sex from a variety of women. Do you really think there is any man on the face of the earth who wants to have sex with only one woman the rest of his life?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 01:37 PM
3

Eh, I’d say they’re below average. Not sure what number.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 01:18 PM
3

This is such a strange take to me. I go out 3 to 4 times a week (and sometimes 7 when I’m really feeling in the mood), have an awesome career, great friends, and an MBA, and I still sometimes go years (plural) without sex. And I’ve asked out somewhere between 500 and 10000 women in my life. This thread confirms to me how delusional women are about what men go through. Women are so used to having infinite options flung at their feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 04:23 AM
2

Oh my God I see this constantly. I’d even go so far as to say it’s the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 03:17 AM
4

This is interesting to me because the guys I know who truly struggle getting a date only have one thing in common: their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 03:15 AM
-1

Just say no thank you. Guys that respond harshly to this are weak. On the flip side of the coin, don’t expect kindness, decency, or friendship from a guy you’ve rejected. Most women don’t understand this. You can reject me, and I’ll absolutely leave you alone and never bother you, but I’ll also never speak to you again or acknowledge your existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 10:28 PM
5

Honestly, most of the stuff I hear and see in this sub is painfully true in real life. Women want and almost exclusively go for taller man. They care about looks to an overwhelming degree. They’ll bang Chads when they’re 20 but then try to settle with a provider when they’re 30. It’s kind of astonishing how accurate a lot of the Pill stuff is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 09:50 PM
1

Women’s extensive sexual histories don’t make men “jealous” or “uncomfortable.” Women’s extensive sexual histories are simply unattractive and a major turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 02:20 PM
7

I’m not jealous or insecure about women’s sexual histories. I just find double digit n-counts extremely unattractive. You know, sort of how women feel about short men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 01:56 PM
1

Dress is irrelevant without height and physical good looks. Put another way, if you have good genetics, you don’t need to think about what you wear. Chicks will fuck a hot guy in sweatpants in an old t-shirt. If you want to dress well just because you like dressing well, go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 03:08 PM
1

Women don’t love sex, or at least they only love sex with a very narrow minority of men under exactly the right circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:27 PM
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Women would never be able to find a man willing to marry them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 02:16 PM
1

This is so astonishingly wrong there’s nothing else to say about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 01:42 PM
1

I’ve had both long term relationships and flings. Most of what red pill teaches is frighteningly accurate. This is the best analogy I can use: If you’re a fisherman, your goal is to catch fish. You’re not going to always catch fish. And you’re not always going to catch the biggest/best fish. But there are tricks, tips, and tactics you can use to optimize your chances of catching fish. That’s the red pill. Oh, and the fish will respond by saying they’re unique, that the tricks don’t work on them,…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 01:33 PM
3

This isn’t true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/21 12:32 PM
6

I find hot women attractive. Introversion or extroversion is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 01:46 AM
2

Lol there are constant man bashing posts on here, and all of them are misguided. The accusations against women, in contrast, are very often accurate, and so women respond with, “Who hurt you?” because they know the accusations are accurate, have no coherent, logical response, and thus reply with the infantile, emotional “comeback”: Who hurt you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 02:38 PM
1

None of these women are attractive. The best they rise to is “fake hot.”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 02:10 PM
-1

This is easy: If you’re a woman, think of the hottest guy you’ve ever fucked, then subtract 3 to 4 points. That’s your league.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 01:55 PM
7

The thing is though in a lot of cases it’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 04:21 AM
1

Lol this is nonsense. Every woman who’s more than a 3 is flooded with constant attention and has very high standards for looks. If they didn’t, the pills wouldn’t have to exist. Come on man. You know damn well women have insane standards about looks and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 01:39 PM
2

Attractive women like attractive men. Self-confidence and social skills have nothing to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 12:29 PM
4

This is one of the most misguided responses I’ve ever read on this thread, which is saying something. Studies have proven women absolutely want to date and fuck dangerous bad boy types. Google Dark Triad traits. I’m not doing it for you. There are no exceptions to this. She may not be able to secure commitment from a bad boy, which is a whole other story entirely, but that’s what she wants, and that’s what she’ll always want. And yes, all women, with no exceptions, want a man who is masculine an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 02:03 AM
1

...and this is how insane women’s standards have gotten. A conventionally attractive white man is now “absolutely unattractive by almost every measure.”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 09:45 PM
2

We’ll have to agree to disagree about his attractiveness. And don’t put words in my mouth. Nobody blamed her for getting murdered, and you know it. The point is that him obviously being a horrific person was in no way a barrier to him getting laid. What did she see in him? Who knows. But him being a good person was not a qualification for him getting romantic interest. That’s what we are arguing. You in no way, shape, or form have to be a good person, or even a passably nice person, to get laid.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 03:56 PM
7

...everything? The point of this thread is the argument that women care about their men being good people, which obviously isn’t the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 03:41 PM
4

Lol average? That guy is conventionally good looking. Women’s standards have gotten so insane that you think that dude is average looking. And even if you do think he’s average, my point still stands: Kindness/genuine niceness is irrelevant to getting laid. That guy was getting laid, and he was an actual monster. Stop trying to argue that women care about their mates being decent people.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 03:39 PM
5

A guy literally just strangled his attractive girlfriend to death but people are still out here claiming genuine niceness and kindness matters to women. GTFO
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 03:30 PM
5

Why is the “also assertive and confident part” silent? Why don’t women have the confidence to say this out loud? Is it because many women have double standards and demand assertiveness and confidence from men when they themselves don’t possess it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 03:28 PM
1

Yes, in short, those are the requirements to get laid/dates. No, most men will never reach them no matter how hard they try. And the cycle of men going sexless and women reaching their 30s and beyond only to find themselves miserable and alone continues.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 12:41 PM
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If two people like that find each other attractive, sounds good to me. I’ve never actually seen it play out, but sure, go for it. What you are talking about is the literal definition of hypergamy, though. It’s women holding out for men who are objectively much better than them in a variety of ways. The reason this is a problem is hypergamous women often ignore men that are their equals. By the way, my thoughts are exactly the same about the Dungeons and Dragons nerd who is holding out for the ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 11:03 PM
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What’s there to explain? Average or below average looking people don’t deserve the most physically attractive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 10:55 PM
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And you haven’t answered why she does.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 10:52 PM
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Why would she deserve Chad? It’s honestly kind of insane you’re taking the stance that women deserve better than someone who is their equal. Which is the problem that we’re discussing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 10:46 PM
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Not where I am. Where I am you see the absolute highest value men with a variety of women, and the remaining women chasing those same guys. I don’t see mediocre-looking men paired with mediocre-looking women where I’m from. Some of this may be geographical differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 10:39 PM
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Equally problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:38 PM
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The problem with hypergamy is it’s hypocritical. No guy cares about a supermodel wanting Chad. A 5’3”, 150-pound secretary chasing Chad is a whole other issue. Most women aren’t seeking their equals. They are seeking something they don’t deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 09:35 PM
2

My 100% honest answer to this question is that you will meet very few people in your life who will be a good partner for you, so try to maximize these opportunities when they arise. I also don’t recommend LTRs or marriage, but that’s not what you asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 03:38 AM
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Putting aside everything else in this thread, this is demonstrably untrue. In fact I’d argue that a lot of the men who do best with women genuinely hate them. I know plenty of guys who genuinely like women who struggle mightily even getting a date. I’ve never met a misogynist who had any trouble getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 03:25 AM
1

And whose fault is it that so many women pick terrible men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 01:26 PM
1

Sure. I’m average in looks and below average in height. But I’ve still only fucked and dated the women I really want to fuck and date. I won’t date women over about 130-140 pounds. I won’t date women who look old. I won’t date women who are bitchy or don’t take care of themselves. I think most people, with effort, can get a lot of what they want; they’re just not going to get everything they want, all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 07:07 PM
6

I’m not exactly sure what your point is here? If a woman’s main complaint is that the men her age don’t seem ready for commitment, then yes, the most logical solution is for her to seek out older men. Or she can just wait. What else would you suggest to this woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 02:41 PM
1

Good looking, kind/pleasant to be around. Vanishingly hard to find both.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 04:37 AM
25

We can start by giving a reality check to all those women who think they deserve a 10% man. 90% of women, by definition, are undeserving of the best men. The problem lies in the entitlement of women, not the expectations of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 06:24 PM
10

No. This is such an awful take it’s not worth commenting on further.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 03:59 PM
1

lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 01:35 PM
3

Yes. The caveat here is that women typically only want the top 10% - 15% of men, in respect to looks, and there’s obviously not enough of those to go around, which leaves many women feeing disappointed in their husbands, even though many of those husbands are in the same league or better than their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 03:03 AM
2

I don’t know how to catch every striped bass every day, but I damn sure know their patterns of behavior and what works more often than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 01:41 AM
19

So why even do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 03:03 PM
6

I’m sure the answer varies depending on the person having sex, but for me it means: generous in bed, open to a wide variety of sexual acts, few hangups, good skillset. There’s also the requirement that she’s good looking and has a hot body to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 02:51 PM
8

I meant that most women are not good enough at sex, period, to make aggressively pursuing it worth the time. That time is better spent on other pursuits.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 02:34 PM
0

There’s a lot of arrogance involved. “I deserve the best.” Even though that’s not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 01:47 PM
2

The problem often arises when a woman is constantly pursuing sex/relationships with men that are objectively better than her. Often, she’ll use her looks to justify her being “high value,” while the guys she is pursuing are more valuable than her in literally every other way. Basically, hypergamy, the way it’s come to be used, is women never being satisfied with men who are literally their equal. If women were cool with fucking men who were their equal, many problems in the dating market would e…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 01:11 PM
1

It’s mostly option 3, with dashes of 1 and 2 sprinkled in.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 12:56 PM
20

I don’t think I would pursue casual sex aggressively. I don’t like it that much and, frankly, most women aren’t good at it. But if casual sex were readily available, I think I’d be even less compelled to pursue a LTR than I already am. If I knew casual sex was going to happen a couple times a month, I honestly don’t think I’d date or be in a relationship ever again.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 12:54 PM
2

Honestly I don’t know if I would ever enter into a relationship again if I was guaranteed I’d have sex like twice a month for the rest of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 02:36 AM
4

I mean this is the exact opposite of what I see. I know enough “passably happy” couples, but I honestly can think of maybe 1 or 2 couples who I truly think have something good.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 01:23 AM
2

That, yes. But even in the cases of people who don’t get divorced, how many of them are truly happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 10:52 AM
1

Honestly, she just needs to be kind, good looking, and have a brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 12:05 AM
34

Yes, people can love each other forever. It is exceptionally rare, however. I believe marriage simply is statistically a bad bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 11:57 PM
1

I think there are two things we have to consider here: 1) When we talk about average men, are we purely talking about looks, or are we talking about the sum of the man’s characteristics? 2) Define “worth it.” In regards to #1, I’m below average in height and average in facial attractiveness. These characteristics have been a major impediment to my dating success over the years. The bottom line is that women care A LOT about height and facial attractiveness, and when you don’t have those things, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 04:13 PM
1

My honest advice to my daughter, if I had one, would be to seriously consider whether she actually wants a long term relationship or marriage. Marriage is AWFUL for men and, quite frankly, I don’t think it’s much better for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/21 12:43 AM
3

I’m not bitter. I’m not even arguing. I’m literally just stating my observation. My social circle is large and diverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 05:11 PM
7

We’ll have to agree to disagree. I’ve never seen this play out IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 03:13 PM
2

Getting great at fucking suggests that you are physically attractive enough to get lots of opportunities to fuck, nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 01:59 PM
5

No. It’s annoyance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 12:48 AM
5

lol okay lady. You’re not a 9. Lots of chicks “have done modeling.” Is it your career? No? Then you’re not a model.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 11:57 PM
4

The short answer is not good. Best case scenario, the majority of time, is settling with a woman who doesn’t find him particularly attractive but needs his money/resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 11:48 PM
1

Honestly, I think that unless you find a needle in a haystack, a traditional relationship - or especially marriage - is literally insane. I ask a lot of people why they got married - in confidence, of course - and they can’t really answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 02:04 AM
1

Honestly, I think that unless you find a needle in a haystack, a traditional relationship - or especially marriage - is literally insane. I ask a lot of people why they got married - in confidence, of course - and they can’t really answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 02:03 AM
1

tHe BaRRR iS oN thE FlOOr teeeheee
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 09:19 PM
1

Hot, thin, kind. Nearly non-existent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 04:02 AM
10

This is hilariously bad advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 11:57 PM
4

Again, I respect your opinion, but that is 100% not what I see where I am (wealthy part of the northeast). I know dozens of guys with good careers and vibrant social lives who haven’t gotten laid in years. Their commonality is that their faces aren’t attractive and/or they’re short. This sub sometimes over complicates attraction. Women want hot guys. That’s it. They may settle for less hot guys as they age, because they have biological clocks, but they don’t want those average and below average …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 11:56 PM
1

...the desperate, awkward, attractive guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 11:51 PM
3

I’ve literally never met a guy “below average in looks, but cool, fun to be around and confident” that gets laid regularly or has a girlfriend. People on this sub always trot out that argument, and I’ve never seen it IRL. The guys who have trouble getting laid all have one thing in common: They are physically unattractive and/or short.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 11:48 PM
4

This take is correct. Rejection almost always comes down to physical appearance. I mean, yeah, you can’t have horrible body odor or horrendous people skills, but if a woman won’t even get a cup of coffee with you, it’s usually because she thinks you’re ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 11:30 PM
0

No. There’s no difference. They’re exactly the same thing. Both men and women have requirements for attraction. Men want their women to remain physically attractive and keep their bodies tight. Women want constant entertainment and vacations to places so they can post photos on their Instagram accounts. Either sex not fulfilling the other’s desires isn’t doing their job in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 01:14 PM
1

Nope. All these “rules” go out the window when the guy is physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 02:30 AM
3

Like I said, I have little interest in longterm relationships. I enjoy women’s company as friends, and I like fucking some women. Any other arrangements typically bore me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 06:58 PM
4

One of the main reasons I am unlikely to get married is because no woman will keep me sexually satisfied for any amount of time. It’s boring as hell to see the same chick naked over and over again. How hot she looks is largely irrelevant. Eventually, it gets boring. This is compounded by the fact that most woman aren’t very adventurous or skilled in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 06:40 PM
2

“I know a guy” isn’t evidence. Ah yes, the old “work on yourself” gaslighting. And who said this has anything to do with me? I don’t like people pushing false narratives, which is why I replied. Getting sex and entering in relationships is about physical appearance, nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 06:35 PM
2

No, you have to have a base level of physical attractiveness to have sex. Many men will never reach that level, no matter how much “effort” they put in, because it’s determined by genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 05:08 PM
2

You can’t improve your height or the bone structure of your face - the two most important factors for entering a sexual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 05:02 PM
2

This isn’t true. There isn’t someone for everyone, and millions of men will die alone without ever having a sexual encounter.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 12:38 PM
7

Go visit the DeadBedrooms section of this website and see how wrong you are. And don’t attack my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 10:25 PM
8

What a logical, well-reasoned rebuttal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:36 PM
10

I don’t know. That’s exactly my point!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:06 PM
7

Aka most wives
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:05 PM
9

Lol literally every single one of my married friends would say otherwise, so I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:03 PM
15

Putting everything else in your comment aside, no, most women absolutely do NOT want to be super sexual with their LTR. In fact, in every relationship I know that’s been going on for longer than like 18 months, sex is infrequent and/or vanilla. Most women statistically do not end up marrying the Chads they really want. There aren’t enough of those men to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 05:58 PM
0

But the appeal is physical. That’s the appeal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 05:36 PM
2

A guy can be both, but it’s exceedingly rare. The things that create sex appeal (arrogance, independence, not having much empathy, callousness, dismissiveness) are the exact things that make somebody not a good partner and provider. This is why sex drops off in the overwhelming majority (all?) of LTRs. Being a good partner and provider, by definition, isn’t sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 11:38 AM
2

I mean wait until you’re 30, I guess, to get serious. But don’t complain when your options aren’t awesome and guys are dating women a decade younger than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 09:27 PM
1

Again, this isn’t about me. I’m speaking universally. This sub tends to overcomplicate attraction. It’s not confidence, “passion,” social skills, or anything else like that. Are you tall and good looking? You’ll get laid. Don’t have those things? You’re going to have a tough time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 05:51 PM
0

I guess the last part is where we differ. At least where I’m from, the quality that dictates a person’s ability to get laid and enter a relationship is looks, and only looks. Women, in particular, are preoccupied with height and physical attractiveness. If you don’t have those things, all you’re getting is a woman settling for you when she’s older. She won’t be attracted to you. In fact, as I’ve seen more relationships play out, it’s remarkable how easy it is to boil down dating success: Just lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 11:26 AM
4

There’s a lot going on here, but I think we can boil things down: Women want to fuck physically attractive guys, preferably tall, physically attractive guys, with money. They want to fuck a lot of these guys. As they age, the begin to want a family. So they need a guy who is a good provider, and they want him to be attractive. At the same time, women understand their looks are waning, and their ability to lock down such a guy is diminished. Except there aren’t enough high value guys to go around…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 03:24 AM
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Marriage is objectively a poor decision, so the question is moot. It’s impossible for a woman to stay sexually attractive for the duration of a marriage, so there’s no reason for men to engage in this contract. If you want a hypothetical answer to your question: She stays looking young and fresh, she keeps her body tight, she’s consistently kind, and she doesn’t complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 11:51 AM
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The only “work” it takes to get laid is being born physically attractive. Can you do things to improve your physical appearance? Absolutely. But it’s cope to think you can somehow just work your way to a vibrant sex life or relationship. And I never said anything about me failing to get girls. Make your point without attacking me personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 11:29 AM
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Lol there are millions of guys who have all those traits but haven’t had sex in months or years. Women aren’t attracted to “purpose” and “passion.” They’re attracted to psychopathic behavior: cruelty, dismissiveness, a brash attitude, egomania, and narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 04:00 AM
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It’s not a hypothesis. It’s what women find attractive and what they are drawn to when pursuing a relationship. And I’ll tell you whatever I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:25 AM
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Nope. Dark triad traits are attractive to women. Women literally find psychopathic traits to be a turn on. When you say women are good at picking up when something’s not right, you mean they’re good at picking up when a guy isn’t attractive enough for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 03:02 AM
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It is astonishingly false to say women prefer a loving 5 to a shitty 10. That alone invalidates everything you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 08:18 PM
3

Wrong. Women respond to good looking faces, muscular bodies, and height. Your personality and “confidence” matter little. A physically hot guy doesn’t need anything else going for him. It’s also why the experiment where a normal guy changes his profile picture to a male model always results in the guy getting a ton of matches. Looks are all that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 02:19 AM
1

Nope. Men don’t need women to fill in any gaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:22 PM
1

Most of the married men my age that I know come across as fairly “beta.” They’re not all full-blown wusses, but it’s pretty clear the women married them not because of raw attraction, but because these men go to work and pay for the children/mortgage/groceries, etc. I don’t know many truly confident, attractive men who are leaders and are also in long term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 01:57 PM
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Lol no. Women haven’t “crossed the finish line.” Having a decent career and not being clinically obese doesn’t count as crossing the finish line. That’s the bare minimum. And yes, most women want much more than they themselves can offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 01:44 PM
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Lol so you wait at the finish line.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 12:27 PM
1

No. A guy who is 12 years older than you isn’t old enough to be your father. You aren’t debating in good faith. Reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 09:01 AM
1

You and a handful of your friends do not constitute a significant portion of women on earth. And a 42 year old and a 27 year old, or whatever, isn’t “old enough to be her father,” or at least it isn’t for 99.999999% of the population. Don’t be daft. If you’re going to argue, at least do so in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 03:08 AM
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Lack of height and physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 02:54 AM
1

I’m 39 and I date women younger than you, and I’m not particularly attractive. Yeah, you might not like older guys, but you’re delusion if you think men in their 30s and 40s can’t fuck 25 year old women. It’s not that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 02:46 AM
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This post is confusing cause and effect. Short and/or physically unattractive men get constantly rejected and never get laid. Therefore they grow to dislike women. The end. Additionally, having strong negative opinions about women in no way hurts the attractive men who have those opinions, who still easily get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 02:25 AM
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I don’t see any of those men in relationships where I live.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 12:30 PM
1

There aren’t many (any?) ways a woman can get a high-quality man to commit. Think about it another way: What do you offer that a high-quality man doesn’t have or can’t get easily?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 02:49 AM
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This is on the high end of normal. If you’re looking for a huge man, that’s fine. But the vast majority of men - even average men - are bigger than you. I’m honestly not sure what your complaint is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 04:33 PM
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Honestly it just sounds like you’re carrying around too much weight and trying to justify it. Where are you meeting all these men who are smaller than you? I’m a physically slight guy and I still am taller and weigh more than all the women I’ve dated. A physically attractive size for a woman is like 5’2” - 5’6” and like 105-125 pounds. Most guys are bigger than that by a good amount.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 04:00 PM
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This is basically it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 03:55 PM
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The bar for women is otherwise low *for men who are already tall and facially attractive.” But. You must pass the Tall and Facially Attractive Threshold first. That bar is very difficult to clear. Women don’t even acknowledge the existence of men below that bar. But the men who clear that bar don’t need to clear any other bars to get laid. So what you have is hot, tall guys with not a ton of other redeeming qualities (because they don’t need them) - and thus you get women declaring that the bar …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 03:52 PM
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This exactly. Barring some bizarre circumstance, why the fuck would a man ghost a hot woman with a tight body who he had good sex with? “Oh yeah. That babe was so goddamn fine and nice to me. Lemme never speak to her again.” Woman don’t want to accept that most of the time when men ghost, it’s because the woman had a dealbreaker and/or wasn’t great.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 03:14 PM
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It works great. I know you were trying to get a dig in. You failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:49 PM
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Hahahaha no they aren’t. Research has proven women are attracted to dark triad traits, which are the literal opposite of emotional intelligence. Just stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:43 PM
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Lol women don’t care about “sharing values, love and true connection” as long as the guy is hot, tall, and wealthy. Just stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 01:31 PM
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What study would anyone conduct to figure out whether women would rather share a Chad than have betas to themselves? Ask women directly? There will definitely be no lying involved there. Track their behavior? But over how long? And what’s a Chad? What’s a beta? What counts as sharing? I get you’re on a mission to destroy RP, but of course there’s no stats on this stuff. Any “data” would be tenuous at best. It’s not something that’s as easy to measure as, say, people feeling more attracted to peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 01:03 PM
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We’ll have to agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 11:55 AM
1

But we don’t know that for certain. I mean if you want define “can get relationships or sex” as “had sex once per year,” ok fine, I guess. Or if you want me to add to my definition to make my point clearer, I’ll do that: Average men can’t get sex and relationships with any degree of regularity. If you want to feel like you’ve won the argument, then I’ll agree with you: Yes, most average men can hook up with one woman once over the course of an 80-year lifespan.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 03:37 AM
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So 30% didn’t have sex. That’s a huge percentage of the population not participating in something that’s fundamental to being human. Additionally, all it would take to fall into that 70% is having sex one time in a year. I don’t know too many people who would consider that a success.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 03:19 AM
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I think we’re probably talking past each other here. My bottom line is that I challenge the contention that physically average men can get relationships and sex. Most physically average men I know struggle greatly in getting so much as a date. The statistics bear this out. Sexlessness is increasing, and marriage rates are declining.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 03:11 AM
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I’m above average in every way except physical attractiveness, which I’m definitely nowhere remotely near the top in. It doesn’t matter to me whether you believe me or not. You can’t change the bones in your face or the length of your legs. There’s nothing anybody “could have done differently” about that, and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 03:00 AM
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Exactly the men I’m talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:45 AM
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We’re just going to have to agree to disagree. You can only see the hot guy getting laid and dates so many times and the average and below average guys getting nothing before you start to understand that looks is the threshold that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:34 AM
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This is the direct opposite of my personal experience. There are literally Google reviews about how charismatic I am. I’d post them if it wouldn’t dox me. But even getting a date or so much as a phone number has always been an immense struggle for me. I have multiple years-long dry spells in my adult life. Why? I’m short and facially attractive at absolute best. I have an awesome job, an MBA, a huge social circle, get my hair cut at a high-end salon, and have a detailed skin care routine prescri…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:01 AM
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I feel like this argument is going to be beaten to death with no real progress. I have never known a reasonably physically attractive man to have any problems getting laid or having relationships. I do know, however, tons of men who have trouble with those things, and they all have one common denominator: They are average looking or below. People in this sub keep posting about “this guy I know” who is average looks but has a vibrant dating life. I’ve literally never met a guy like that, ever, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 01:54 AM
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You just proved my point, even though you didn’t mean to. You’re right: Having teeth is baseline. So is above average looks. No, they aren’t the only thing, but you won’t get your foot in the door without them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 01:09 AM
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Right. And baseline attractiveness for women is always above-average looking. The ambition part isn’t relevant. The looks part is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:58 AM
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I don’t think it’s well-known that women find ambition attractive. Women find the end result of ambition attractive: money. An ambitious, broke guy who isn’t great looking isn’t going to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 10:09 PM
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...those are the men in relationships. At least where I am. All the guys I know who struggle with women have everything (and more) that the hot guys do. They just don’t have the hot part.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 09:02 PM
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Other men might be complaining. I’m not. I’m observing reality. By the way I agree with you: Women should use whatever standards they want. So should men. Nobody is doing anything wrong here. Also, we know how women’s scale works: Be hot, be tall, be wealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 08:37 PM
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It doesn’t matter what you think, either. We’re judging you on our scale, not yours. We don’t care about your scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 08:29 PM
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And men don’t use your scale. Just because she has a graduate degree and a house doesn’t mean we don’t think she’s a 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 08:20 PM
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It’s the same for average men. The world is filled with average-looking men with good jobs and normal social skills who can’t get laid because they aren’t hot enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 04:45 PM
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The number of people is the world with true “divergent” personalities is statistically small. The number of sexless and dateless men is statistically much larger. Men have trouble getting laid because they are facially unattractive and/or short. Personality is irrelevant. See: Hot men with true “divergent” personalities who fuck as much as they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 04:42 PM
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This is demonstrably false.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 04:33 PM
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We’ll have to agree to disagree. The men I see struggling with dating have one thing in common: Their faces aren’t attractive and/or they are short. We all like to believe we’re much less shallow than we actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 04:26 PM
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I agree with you. I’m not sure what your point is though. If a man doesn’t want to settle with a woman he doesn’t find attractive, that action doesn’t hurt anybody. Guys choosing to remain single is fine. Women settling with men causes a ton of damage to everyone, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:08 PM
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Women aren’t happy to settle. They will settle, but they’re not happy about it. See: 70% of divorces filed by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 02:58 PM
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This is gaslighting. It’s the same as the “just get a haircut, bro” advice. Literally everyone where I live dresses professionally and is well groomed. But a lot of those men still struggle to get one date. Do you know why? Their faces aren’t attractive and their legs aren’t long enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 02:18 PM
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The problem is that “normal” women, say 4-6 on the attractiveness scale, will never be satisfied with a 4-6 man. All women want the hottest guys. Whether they can get them is a different story. So yes, women do have impossibly high standards for looks, but once her clock starts to tick she’ll choose someone she’s not particularly attracted to as opposed to a lifetime of being alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 02:15 PM
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The video games and porn is the effect, not the cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 06:34 PM
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Lol women don’t need an emotional connection to engage physically. They need a guy to be tall and hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 04:20 AM
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Women can have whatever standards they want at whatever time they want. It’s just that no guy with a shred of self-respect should ever wait for a woman who didn’t make other guys wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 01:31 PM
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There is a cheat code, though. Be physically attractive and an asshole. You’ll have your pick of women. Sometimes I think everybody is overthinking this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 01:17 PM
2

lol okay Jan
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 12:47 PM
4

lol nice women don’t like nice men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/21 12:35 PM
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Underrated comment. The overwhelming majority of “attractive” women I know are only attractive because of their looks. They’re below average otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 11:37 PM
3

Not every - or even most - guys are interested in long-term dating, though. Some guys just want casual things. And the whole reason many other guys get into relationships is that they can’t get anything casual. I don’t agree that everyone has trouble. I mean, I know a lot of people that have zero trouble getting into a steady relationship basically whenever they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 11:35 PM
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This gets mentioned a lot. I literally can’t think of the last time I’ve seen it IRL, though. I wonder if it’s a geographical thing? Around here, good looking people have options and are in relationships. Average or below average men really struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 11:27 PM
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I mean I’m not saying personality doesn’t matter, but it’s objectively false to say hot, dumb guys or hot guys with a bad personality have trouble. They don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 11:26 PM
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This is a fair point, though I would also argue it’s not wise to date or fuck damaged women, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 11:32 AM
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Yes. What’s so difficult to understand about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 11:31 AM
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lol. fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 01:44 PM
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If chicks want to go for the dude who rides a Harley and has an edge, who cares. The problem is, though, they very often - particularly when they are young - go for bad people. These are the criminals, the abusers, the cheaters, etc. and, after these men are done, then the woman will sometimes go for a better man. Guys, never date or fuck a woman who has a bad man in her past.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 12:54 PM
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Go you, I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 11:29 PM
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Discussions around the Wall tend to be hyperbolic. Women don’t fall off a cliff at 28, but they do decline in attractiveness. This decline becomes steeper in their 30s. Men don’t start magically slaying poon at 30, but their options can get better, provided they can stay on top of their shit. I do think it is much tougher to be a woman in her 30s or 40s and looking for a relationship than a man of the same age. I’m in my late 30s, and it is literally almost impossible to find a woman my age who …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 10:45 PM
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Women charging too high a price for what they’re selling, basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 09:01 PM
1

I’m not even sure what your point is right now. The point remains: Many women can get hot men to use them for a night. But there are usually consequences - emotional, physical, or both. We literally have data proving this. Not sure how or why anyone would argue otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 08:37 PM
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The lingering emotional baggage from casual sex is one factor that dissuades women from cheating, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 08:03 PM
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Being discreet doesn’t change the effect casual sex has on your ability to pair bond.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 07:59 PM
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You can fuck super hot guys, maybe. You can’t do so without ramifications.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 07:32 PM
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Women only have the advantage when they are 25 or younger, and in respect to casual sex. They absolutely do not have the advantage when they are over 25 and looking for marriage. Do you really think most women end up permanently happy with the decisions they’ve made about their romantic lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 01:29 PM
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Honestly, if I was guaranteed sex like 2-3 times a month with an attractive woman, I don’t think I would even consider a relationship of any kind. What I’m saying is that the primary driver for me to think about getting in a relationship is that I want regular sex with someone I think is physically attractive. Being single is, otherwise, preferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 01:19 PM
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One of the darkest parts of hypergamy is that most women will trade up at the sniff of a better prospect, as long as she feels that there aren’t large social ramifications because of her actions. You and most women will deny this. Whatever. I don’t care. But if Ryan Gosling wanted to fuck you, you’d do it if you thought you could get away with it without anybody finding out or you incurring social punishment. And your “bond” with your bf wouldn’t make a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 12:58 PM
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Hypergamy points out that most women are never truly satisfied or fully attracted to the man they end up settling down with. She’s with him because she can’t get better. If she could get better, she’d leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 12:47 PM
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The same top 5% of guys. How are people not understanding this? If 80 out of 100 women are fucking the top 5% of guys, and the remaining 20 women are fucking guys in the 6% to 20% range, most guys aren’t having sex. The sole reason sexlessness is on the rise in men is because a huge portion of women are chasing a small portion of men, leaving many men out in the cold.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 04:43 AM
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Exactly. Like most women on here, she’s completely out of touch with how brutal dating is for men. If a guy doesn’t proactively pursue women, and do so frequently, he could literally go his entire life without so much as a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 04:38 AM
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I’m not sure what you think you’re “right” about. I stated my qualifications for a woman. Those are my qualifications. They don’t have to be yours. There’s no “right.” No, I don’t care who she fucked before me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 08:25 PM
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You’re in for a rude awakening if you ever learn about the sexual histories of the vast majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 08:20 PM
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No, it’s not. I understand you’re trying for a gotcha. It’s not working.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 07:55 PM
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I think we’re using the word status differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 07:48 PM
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The only kernel of truth in this dumbass post is the plastic surgery part. Women are attracted to things that are largely unchangeable: a man’s face and his height. Men can’t change the way the bones in their face are arranged, short of drastic plastic surgery. The guys that I know who struggle with women were dealt a bad genetic hand. It doesn’t have anything to do with fashion or this “hygiene” thing women always bring up. I admit that maybe some of this is geographical, because it’s unusual t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 01:01 PM
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...I said isn’t a total idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 10:57 AM
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This is more or less correct. I’m wealthy, attractive, and have an MBA and a vibrant social life, and my requirements for a woman are, “Be hot and kind.” As long as she has a job - any job - and isn’t a total idiot, I could give two shits about her status or accomplishments.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 12:30 AM
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It is demonstrably false to say that women find beauty in average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 01:25 PM
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I wouldn’t be with a woman who I didn’t think was very physically attractive. I know this doesn’t exactly answer the question, but that’s because I would never find myself in the situation where I thought, “Meh. My gf looks just okay.” Honestly, it’s hard enough to stay attracted to a woman even when she is hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 01:21 PM
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This is the correct take. Most problems in the modern dating arena stem from average to slightly above average women thinking they’re hot shit because a good-looking guy was willing to fuck them once.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 03:56 AM
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