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Bringing up nursing as a dirty job isn't gaslighting. Calm down. You didn't even make a point that it's not dirty (any job can involve an accident like at your fast food example, but it's literally the job with nursing). Your point rests on it's not being invisible. Okay friendo, since everything is a competition and we can't just accept that men and women both do a lot of shit work in society, women tend to be the caregivers for the mentally ill and the elderly. These are dirty, dangerous jobs …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 02:47 PM
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All the jobs qualify as dirty, which lines up with the title that is specifically talking about "dirty jobs that men do." Danger is a different, very specific topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 05:42 AM
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This thread is about dirty jobs. Try to stay on topic. To the post you responded to, I really don't know why anyone pretends nursing isn't a seriously dirty job, not to mention important to society. It's also hard on the body, particularly in this overweight society.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:47 AM
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This is like asking why anyone risks their family's lives by owning a sedan instead of a minivan when the death rate from accidents in sedans is more than double that of minivans. Nobody lives their life this way. If something comes with risk, people should (but don't always) act with caution. But in terms of social pressure, pick a lane. Your part of society is far nicer to remarried mothers than single mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 07:49 PM
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Ahhh you hid the bag. Your first link is irrelevant to the topic of kids. You pretended you had no problem with divorce if kids weren't involved. Clearly you have thoughts. Yeah I know how to find my own data thanks. I wanted to see what you were relying on. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/21st-century-childhood/202208/the-impact-divorce-children "Research published by sociologist Lisa Strohschein showed that, even before marital breakup, children whose parents later divorce exhibit high…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:04 PM
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Kids with divorced parents have two parents. Post the data you're relying on so we can discuss. These vague averages are meaningless on an individual scale anyway. Divorce rates correlate to income. Meaning, higher divorce rates for lower income households. Lower income households also correlate to worse outcomes. Lots of children are miserable in miserable environments. I doubt you have a lot of experience in this matter if you can't even grant that. Frankly resting on the "young" children alre…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 02:25 PM
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Yes I have a kid. Don't misunderstand me. I don't think divorce should be aspired to, or that it's always great. Definitely with kids it's a different animal. It's so hard on kids to bounce between homes. I've seen (rare) couples let the kids stay in the home and the parents trade off being there. Such a better outcome for the kids. I just don't assume it's bad if a couple with children divorce. Plenty of kids wish their parents divorced. I've known couples with kids that needed to divorce. It w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:05 PM
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F/41/married to 41M 70/30, I earn more Daughter is a teen so childcare not an issue. I do 95% of appointments and transportation for her. I do probably 70% of chores. He does 90% of home maintenance/yard work. He cooks 95% (though I do help as his assistant). Yes. I work from home, work fewer hours, and my schedule is flexible because I'm self employed. Our arrangement works for us. I'd prefer he helped a little more with chores on his days off, but it's not a big deal. When work is stressful th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:38 PM
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Do some people make poor decisions in divorce? Absolutely. I have read plenty of examples just on reddit of people regretting a choice to end a relationship. I see in my profession the impact of divorce. It's absolutely excruciating, and it often brings out the absolute worst in people. It certainly isn't something to aspire to. But that's saying nothing more than people often make poor decisions period. Of course that's true. It's not a reflection of divorce as an institution, nor is it an argu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:29 PM
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I'd be fine with it as long as I could comfortably afford it. And probably I would want him to be saving, since I would be saving as well. I wouldn't want to be the only one we could count on in a crisis in that scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 05:03 PM
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The obvious answer has been stated - religion. But my observation is that I see a lot of posts/commentary that rely on an assumption that divorce is bad and should be reduced. This ignores the fact that to a lot of people, divorce is good. I feel like my marriage is better because we both know we aren't slaves to our life together. We are together 100% because of an ongoing choice we make every day. Like, I would never have looked at data like this and thought, "Oh, if I want my marriage to last…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:38 PM
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As the significantly higher earner in my household, this is a bunch of cope bullshit. Earning more doesn't give you the right to devalue the full time work of your partner. They certainly don't have to compensate by being your personal assistant in their off time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 11:54 PM
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Oh wow this is stupid. They're choosing a man they want but because they have a career they can leave if they want. That's the whole of the post. They get to be picky. Btw, the sole breadwinner issue is irrelevant. A woman being a sole breadwinner is about a husband being stay-at-home. That's not common. A husband choosing to work as well doesn't deprive the wife of having a career. Over half of wives in childless marriages are independent. They're not mooching/leaching, which was your original …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:56 PM
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Slightly less than half. And those marriages include trad marriages that just haven't had kids yet. It also doesn't count all the single women out there that are also independent. "It's a small minority of women" literally a paragraph after acknowledging (by rounding your favor) that it's half and half lol. You clearly are starting from a foregone conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:48 PM
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Dress like she's single? I don't even know what that means. Just date women that already dress in a way you want them to dress.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 08:12 PM
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In childless marriages on that chart, a majority are egalitarian + women as sole/primary breadwinner. Meaning, while men are more likely to be sole/primary breadwinner than women, those relationships don't represent the majority of relationships. So you can't generalize society based on that. The truth is, women don't generally have to be super independent to make the point. The point is made when a significant minority of women are independent (and based on that chart, it's actually a small maj…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 06:36 PM
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LOL that's a great rule!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 09:14 PM
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Other guys, both male friends of mine and a few times random guys at bars over mild shit. I have a clear memory of my best friend taking him aside at a bar once to tell him he was going to blow it because of his anger when we were all just out dancing. That all feels like a thousand years ago now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 07:22 PM
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True, it's very reminiscent of all the posts that explicitly and specifically blame single moms for the dads that abandon their kids. Meaning, for anyone that wants to pretend I'm arguing that women have no responsibility in their lives, I'm talking about posts that make it directly clear that single moms are more to blame for this phenomenon. Yeah men spend like crazy too. They have different things they spend money on on average, but they spend money. Just look at the lifestyle of all the redp…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 07:47 PM
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"So this is an interesting point; do you think that ending up in poverty has nothing to do with the fact that women generally are worse with managing money than men?" This says women find debt more stressful, not that they are "worse with money." It also says that a key factor in the stress is that childcare costs disproportionately fall on women. Sorry if that's inconvenient to your narrative. I see this claim all the time with no evidence, and since I work in with debtors it specifically drive…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 07:12 PM
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Yes thank you. I always feel the need to point this out when people trot out current stats for relationships. Those stats include boomers for crying out loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 11:24 PM
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Very very very different overall, but some overlap. My husband is tall and he definitely is the kind to get female attention. Except he's not a gym guy and has a bit of a dad bod. He's pretty fit just because of work but he doesn't care to exercise on his own for the sake of it. He also doesn't like makeup for me. He continues to complement me as I age. He's started losing his hair (we're 41) but he's always kept his hair very short if not bald and he wears a hat. He looks really good in a hat i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 06:48 PM
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Absolutely. Gen z is super weird about sex in movies too, and sexy clothes. In my experience they are kind of strangely puritanical.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 01:06 PM
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No that is definitely not the point. I too can read. 1. What "happily single" women count as "singles life " is living alone with a pet and still having "situationships" when the dry spell becomes unbearable. What "happily single" women count as "single" are occasional FWB arrangement's with one of her guy friends. What "happily single" women count as "single" are numerous tinder dates in between that lead nowhere because the guy wasn't hot/good enough." He is defining these women in inaccurate …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 10:54 PM
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This makes sense to me. Unhappy married people can leave their marriages. It totally fits my general attitude about relationships. A good relationship is better than being single, and being single is better than a bad relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 09:58 PM
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women are picking to not have FWB That's fine, but that's not the OP's point. I think you've tried to save the OP's point in your last sentence, but it's really not what was said. I agree that every happily single woman I know that isn't having sex regularly or even at all, frankly, could have sex if they wanted to. Edit ~ I want to add, though, that the women I'm referring to don't want casual sex. It doesn't appeal to them. Many of them would be perfectly happy to find a committed and worthwhi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 09:51 PM
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Good God. No. Not all "happily single" are on apps, or consistently dating, especially in their 40s and above. Lots of women don't even enjoy casual sex. I don't know any happily single women that fit your description. If I was single, I wouldn't fit it either. Once again. Silly, broad generalizations to huge groups of strangers you immaturely presume to fit your experiences/feelings exactly. There's so much of that around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:02 PM
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A real problem here is an obsession with characterizing huge groups of total strangers in very sweeping generalities based in your own extremely limited experiences. Everyone isn't like you. Every woman that has guy friends doesn't say inane crap like they're "less drama." Your example is a miscommunication. It happens. She is a woman with platonic guy friends who presumably she hangs out with in platonic ways and they know it. This one guy being confused has no impact on those other friendships…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 06:34 PM
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Jesus what a shallow and absurd analysis of a stat. You throw around the word "most" for generalities you made up as though you have data to support it. Once again yet another post that is pure misogyny. There is no other way to characterize trying to defend blaming single parenthood more on mothers that stick around than on fathers (and mothers) that don't. And of course, divorced parents with joint custody obviously are part of the stat and have nothing to do with this reach of all reaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 05:27 PM
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I'm not saying these things don't matter at all to anyone. This thread is responding to the OP by talking about how women also don't love thinking about their husbands/partners with other women (it's true, it's not just men or prostitutes!). The point is just don't dwell on it. Then someone responded that women are different, they care about different things. Okay so now we're full circle. There's no movement for women to ask an n count question of a different variety, including whether a guy ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:13 PM
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"Women are much harsher at the front end, and judge men on many factors before they decide to sleep with a guy. Women judge a man love count at the start, because they want to avoid sleeping with such men." How is this a different dynamic? Based on this logic, women should be asking men their version of the n count question on first dates. But they don't. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean by "love count." But I certainly agree that being clingy early and unequally is a turn off. For bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 05:08 AM
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Then the women's version of the body count question should be "how many women have you loved/had very strong feelings for?" But that's not a thing either. Normal adults, including men, can let this shit go.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 04:11 AM
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D, only I wouldn't have meaningless casual sex. I don't enjoy it that way anyway. I'm not interested in an open relationship, even mutually open. B is unfair to the guy unless I fall for him over time (which although I can fall for guys like that and have, I kind of think the point of the game is that I have to assume my non-attraction is forever). I'm not attracted to women. I want none of these scenarios, and I'm totally happy single and independent, so it's an easy choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 04:54 PM
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I'll say no, with an asterisk. I'm the primary breadwinner, and in emotional vulnerability type of stuff, I take on a more masculine role and he's more feminine. I prefer that because it's a good balance for me. I made the first move to initiate our first date. He cooks and I never do. I do the most chores, but it's because I work from home and have more time. I didn't plan to ever get married, and I thought we were on the same page about that. But in other areas, we fell into traditional roles.…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 12:23 AM
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That's not a real world scenario. The "high value man" can pick a hot lawyer over an ugly lawyer. The barista isn't even in the running.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 08:18 PM
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No not really. It's very obvious what the intent is behind "women are lazy, or rather, they work but in easy jobs, or rather, they work medium hard jobs but not super hard jobs!"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:18 PM
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This is such an irrelevant distraction. By this logic, the overwhelming majority of most men work in very far from the hardest jobs. This conversation went from deriding women for whining about doing laundry once in a while, to acknowledging that most work full time but in "easy" jobs, to working in hard jobs but not the hardest jobs. Ask yourself why it's so important to you to turn this into a competition between men and women to deride women instead of just recognizing that everyone works.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:03 PM
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I don't think you understand what an ad hominem is. The victim playing is by the person claiming men are victims of women having sex with men who become deadbeats. Yes both men and women are responsible when they choose to have sex. I never said or implied anything different.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:33 PM
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What a hilarious and weird isolated and irrelevant case to bring up given this: "However, in the later Supreme Court hearing, the Department stated it never had any intention of collecting its award". Meaning, it was indefensible and wasn't enforced. Sometimes bullshit cases exist but are not representative of anything in actual society on a mainstream level.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:12 PM
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I don't know what this has to do with the OP or my point. The OP's point is about two consenting adults who have sex. After the woman gets pregnant and keeps the child and the man walks away, the OP is blaming the woman for the man walking away because she had sex with him. If you want to talk about equality, fine, that's not this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:10 PM
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Blaming women for having sex with a man who becomes a deadbeat for his deadbeatery more than the man that became a deadbeat is not about responsibility. Responsibilty would be holding deadbeats accountable for being deadbeats. Also it makes me laugh that you want to judge this hypothetical woman for her choice of a deadbeat over, presumably, someone like you. As though, someone that judges a woman who doesn't abandon her children for a man abandoning his children is some kind of appealing catch …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 04:00 PM
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I love posts like this that just make it super clear that red pill is about nothing but hating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 03:21 PM
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I definitely think it's a parent's job to help their child socialize and function in society in a healthy and productive way. A lot of modern parents completely suck at that particular thing, for both boys and girls. It's not just about dating. In this era of mass social media, people, and especially kids, are struggling with in person human interaction. Pretending it's not a parent's job to help their child exist in society as it is is not going to help improve things. None of that is to exclud…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 08:41 PM
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I'm not sure that there's anything less attractive than a deadbeat. OTOH a man that raises kids that aren't biologically his is clearly a catch.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 04:05 PM
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People choose not to get married all the time. It's not even uncommon. People choose to be in long term partnerships without marriage. Others simply choose to be single. You absolutely can do it if you want to. You are not a slave to the married establishment. You're not a victim of it at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 01:41 PM
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Don't get married if you don't want to. Simple. But if these are the things you are concerned about, I have some advice. First, don't have kids. Child support exists regardless of marriage. Next, if you really want to have kids, two things: 1) maintain a commitment to being an equivalent presence in the kids lives; and 2) pick a partner with roughly equivalent earning potential, or a partner that is capable of being financially independent. Among the younger generation, this really isn't that ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 06:43 PM
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Whether a relationship is meant to be easy isn't the comparison. The comparison at issue here is whether the relationship makes her life better/easier/happier than single life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 04:21 PM
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Can you link your survey that gives these numbers?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:45 PM
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The surveys do support the point. You missed the part about bad relationships. Lots and lots of women are in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:36 PM
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Don't buy into the redpill shit so hardcore. All men do not want to have sex with teenagers. It's simply not true. When you look up stats on who men prefer to date, on average it's closer to their age as they age than to teenagers. Men might consistently say in surveys that women look their best on their early 20s, but that doesn't translate to how they actually live their lives. Lots of men are not attracted to childlike naivety, but I will say it's totally fair to be disgusted by men who are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 07:34 PM
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"So by saying that the equivalent is men receiving attention from gay men, it is implied that women will never be attracted to average men. Because straight men will never be attracted to men." No? I feel like you're missing the point, even though you highlighted the unwanted aspect of the attention earlier, which is the point. You/they aren't comparing women getting hit on by men they're attracted to with men getting hit on by men they're not attracted to. Women that complain about excess atten…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 07:04 PM
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K. I'm not gonna go read up on some random thing you're telling me to google. Suffice it to say, I am unconvinced that social media alerted women to the fact that they aren't really attracted to men, as though they didn't understand their attraction previously. I don't think companies care about wanting to appear gender equality focused. The current world economy needs women workers. Women need to work so they aren't financially enslaved to other people. For women, it's not about respect, it's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:13 PM
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Now you sound like you're agreeing that economics are what matters. I have no idea how you could ink "social media optics" to no longer "prioritized male employment." Being limited to a smaller area of men would make the opposite point. Lower likelihood of finding a man attractive, based on your theory that women don't really like men that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 07:00 PM
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You think women didn't know they didn't find men attractive prior to social media?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 06:26 PM
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"Instead it is being driven by more women in education and work, as well as greater access to contraception, leading to women choosing to have fewer children." So... Economics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 02:26 PM
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Do you have some data to back up this assumption?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 02:01 PM
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Look at birth rates in the east. We can a stop pretending this is about culture or "the west". It's about economics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 01:57 PM
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Some men will say it's bad. Those exact same men will complain about how men get screwed in divorce. Guess which men get the most screwed in divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 06:50 PM
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I feel sorry for you. Hopefully you're very young.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:51 PM
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Then what? Do you want a hard and fast rule? Sounds like something a couple can work out between themselves, as long as one is not treated like a slave to the other, or as though their work doesn't count or isn't also stressful and hard. I don't care, at all, if one makes significantly more but they both work full time. I made that explicitly clear in my post. It doesn't entitle him or her to a fucking slave. Your partner is a human being, not a robot vacuum cleaner with a paycheck.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:28 PM
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Delegating more (but never all) chores to a partner that works less hours is fine and normal. Delegating more chores because a partner earns less (without working less) is psychotic. I say that as the higher earner. My god people, you're not entitled to a slave lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 03:04 PM
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Oh I get it, you just literally think rape in marriage is kosher. Agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:02 PM
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Blame for what exactly? Not being attracted to her husband anymore and then being even less attracted to him when he threatened, begged and coerced her for sex? Btw, he's at fault for threatening and coercing her, which have the opposite effect he was seeking.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:47 PM
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So, you mean she has a better intimate relationship with her new husband? Yeah, cool. I didn't say anything about asking. I used words like "coerce," "threaten," and "beg." I'm sure you are old enough to understand the extremely clear distinction between these concepts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:25 PM
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He should have left or they should have gotten counseling from jump. If she didn't want to have sex, there's a deeper issue that he didn't care about when he was pressuring her. If my husband didn't want to have sex with me, I wouldn't beg or threaten or coerce. I am only interested sex with someone that wants to have sex with me. I know that nothing would be a bigger turn off for me than a person threatening me to get intimacy. That's the opposite of intimate. It exacerbates the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:11 PM
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If this shit really worked, birth rates wouldn't be declining around the world as women gain more freedom to stay TF out of those manipulative/abusive relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:04 PM
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Hollywood casting disproves this thesis. This sub by itself also disproves the thesis when it comes to age. I notice you didn't mention age among absurd beauty standards for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 08:41 PM
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You judge strangers for their sex lives and you think their sex lives affect you? You should try meditation.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 01:52 AM
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Try not to give them so much power over you. The talk hasn't affected me in the slightest. I think literally everyone that argues about the importance of body counts sound like very ridiculous people that have the emotional maturity of children. Do you judge strangers for their sex lives? What about friends, or colleagues? Don't be harder on yourself than you would be on others. The important thing is to have sex when you're comfortable. If the idea of having sex with someone makes you feel dirt…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:19 PM
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Because people think white is pretty and society doesn't think is signifies virginity anymore. Also people love tradition. But I highly encourage people to be creative with weddings. It's a lot cheaper and way more fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 04:05 PM
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I don't know how you think this disagrees with what I said. Did you mean to respond to someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 03:30 PM
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This issue is not complicated. People pretend it is to villainize men or women as entire groups which is really stupid. No one is entitled to friendship. Period. If a guy doesn't want to be friends with a woman he's attracted to because she's not attracted back, he has every right to do that. I think most women understand this. At the same time, going from being kind and normal with a woman at work or who has mutual friends to ignoring that she even exists upon finding out that she isn't romanti…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:28 PM
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No it's not arbitrary. People can have hundreds of friendships and casual aquaintances, not to mention congenial work relationships. Everyone is rightfully choosy about when they decide to be intimate with someone. Very very different standards there for very real reasons. If you don't see that, I just think you lack respect for human beings and what they value in their private lives. It's definitely not shallow to recognize that intimate relationships are more private than any other relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 06:12 PM
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"no value outside of friendship" is a really odd way to describe "aren't desired as someone to date." See the difference? One is any value besides sex. The other is, desires to be intimate with. You aren't entitled to intimacy with anyone. That's actually what makes intimacy so special. We pick people that pick us back for a very special and private bond. Interacting with colleagues in a way that simply treats them as human beings isn't analogous.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 04:05 PM
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I think it's kind of entitled to expect women to be super cool with being treated like they have no value outside of sex. If that's the only value you see, that's cool, that's your right. It's also their right to think that's shitty.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 03:28 PM
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Well the 52% of marriages outnumber the 48%. So attempts to generalize this are a waste of time. Btw, some of those childless marriages are new/young. Many of those couples will end up having children and are planning to have children. Some others are boomers or even gen xers from era where the culture of breadwinner/homemaker was very different than it is among young people today.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 12:38 AM
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I don't know why people act like it's news that good looking people get away with more than less attractive people. There are studies on this. It's a fact. In some ways everybody is guilty of it. It's not even just a sexual thing. If a stranger steps on your heel at the grocery store, your reaction may well be different if they're attractive versus unattractive. If you're an asshole and not attractive, yes it will be harder to get laid than if you're an asshole but attractive. This isn't a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 06:03 PM
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Because they choose to? I don't understand the confusion. Human beings are complicated. People have a thousand different motivations for the things they choose to do. An unplanned pregnancy isn't a simple scenario. A woman in that situation might weigh dozens of factors to decide whether or not she wants to continue pregnancy, or she might weigh one or two, like religion and/or financial stability. I have a question for the OP - why TF do you think this incredibly hard and stressful and life cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 01:54 PM
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Well women are the ones more often leaving because they'd rather be alone (or put another way, without a slave by your definition). So I guess they're fine doing stuff on their own. You are the one that has to do the convincing, not me. My philosophy is that people should do whatever they want, including in a relationship. Based on your position, you have to convince a partner to let you treat her though she's lucky to fold your laundry, or she has to accept a sister wife. Good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 09:20 PM
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The difference is men are actual victims, and don't pretend that they are just to gain pity that they don't need unlike women Sure buddy. Again, keep telling yourself that. The only person you have to convince is your partner. You won't convince me. Most divorces are because of financial issues, not "servitude". A woman isn't going to leave her man making twice as much as her just because she does the laundry twice as often as he does. That's called a bargain. LMAO well you're the expert on what…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 06:06 PM
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Keep telling yourself that, while women continue leaving their husbands that treat them like his personal servant. Justify it to yourself all you want. You have to convince the woman in your life that all your BS is legit. It's funny that you accuse others of victimizing themselves when your first paragraph is nothing but a rant of self pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 05:43 PM
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Maybe not to you. It is to me. You're speaking martian as far as I'm concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 01:46 PM
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Or, the "first" wife just leaves because she realizes her life is easier not being your metaphorical slave. That's the outcome that actually happens a lot, as opposed to your fantasy outcome that only regularly happens in countries where women are quite literally slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 01:36 PM
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I have no idea what you mean. Helping around the house is incredibly sexy. It's demonstrates thoughtfulness and love for others in the space. I can't even imagine being turned off by my husband vacuuming. To make it clear, it's like watching my husband change my spark plugs. Being helpful and productive is sexy. What's not sexy is sitting around treating others (especially me, when it comes to what I find sexy) like servants. That's pitiful and childlike. Anything childlike is not sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 01:33 PM
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I'm pleasantly surprised to hear that on this sub. I see your point of the stresses it removes. My husband met her when she was three. It's a very cute age. The three of us had lots of fun together.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 02:39 PM
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Yes. This mostly describes my husband... Except he adopted my daughter, so he ultimately decided to have one child. He is a wonderful father but he has no interest in having more and that is just fine with me. As my husband says, we work to live, we don't live to work. We need reasonable income to have a pleasant lifestyle and enjoy our time together as much as possible. We don't care about being rich or powerful.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 06:49 AM
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Omg your understanding of divorce is fucking childlike. The data you're ignoring is all the data that shows women are worse off after divorce than men, and they don't have a financial incentive to leave a marriage. You don't seem to understand that the main reason men earn more in marriage these days is because of the kids. Women are more likely to have careers that enable them to be caregivers. This is discussed in all those articles/studies you're ignoring. Sorry men have to help support their…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:30 PM
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No you're ignoring data to confirm your predetermined bias. Men benefit from joining a two income household too. That's not unique to women. Sorry to burst your bubble. Any comparison you make is fine as long as you have the same standard for both men and women in the comparison. When you're analyzing whether women have a financial incentive to leave a marriage, obviously you compare pre and post divorce lmao. No other comparison would answer that question.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:17 PM
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So what? Both men and women benefit financially from marriage generally. The point is, men are better off after divorce generally than women, and women don't have a financial incentive to divorce. Your point is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:06 PM
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""Don’t wear that” “go brush your teeth” “you’re not buying that” “you’re not eating that” Demanding to know where a man has been, who he has been with, and where he is going is par for the course in most heterosexual relationships... She will decide what he eats, wears, who he spends holiday with, what he drives, what color his bedroom is painted, what furniture he has in his apartment (even if they don’t live together), who he is allowed to be friends with. If a man goes out with friends witho…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 05:15 PM
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This shit isn't hard to find. Every time I see guys on here confidently spouting the lie that woman are better off after divorce, it's just that gentle reminder that red pill is very dumb. https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/men-v-women-who-does-better-in-a-divorce#:~:text=Ultimately%2C%20the%20overall%20economic%20quality,%2C%20post%2Ddivorce%2C%20decreases. https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/04/the-divorce-gap/480333/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5992251/ https://…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 05:08 PM
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I think the only benefit of marriage for men or women is to be in a partnership that makes life happier and easier. If a marriage doesn't provide that, it's a shitty marriage and I at least would end it. Luckily, I'm in a happy marriage that is a partnership that makes my life happier and easier than it would be if it was just me. A woman benefits if she's part of a team with someone choosing to share life with her, and same for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 05:02 PM
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Regardless of the OP's anecdotes, there is a huge percentage of single women out there that are entirely self sufficient. It's not just women. Our society has created a ton of loners that exist largely alone in their homes that are invisible to the masses.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 06:21 PM
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The reason why Women initiate the vast majority of divorces is because they will usually end up left in better financial position then their partner. Holy shit, your post begins with such an easily disproved blatant lie. I don't think you're lying, but this myth being pushed by red pill is at this point just out of control. https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/men-v-women-who-does-better-in-a-divorce#:~:text=Ultimately%2C%20the%20overall%20economic%20quality,%2C%20post%2Ddivorce%2C%20decreases. Ul…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:13 PM
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I actually agree with you that marriage isn't really necessary any more if you don't want to. I'm married, but we did it for practical reasons (although we pay more in taxes, which is annoying). But seriously? And I'm not being judgemental, her having a wild sexual past does not make her a bad person? follows Jesus.. he put a ring on that!? only if he knew, I've nutted inside every hole in her body" I legit felt bad for him This is called being judgmental. Just own it lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 11:09 PM
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Snape was bad. What a perfect example of a "nerd" that people want to pretend was a nice guy but he was actually a psycho. James was mean to Snape for sure. He was a teenager. He wasn't perfect. He wasn't a murderer though, and he wasn't a bully as an adult of children, so he wins any morality contest between the two. The story being written by a woman is irrelevant. The morality or judgment or personality of fictional characters is not a reflection of the morality or judgment or personality of …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 04:49 PM
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If your software engineer girlfriend wanted a nicer lifestyle than you could afford, no you wouldn't be able to contribute 50%. And to plenty of people, that's just fine. Yes, mutual effort and support. Keys to any good relationship. Punishing a full time employee for "taking advantage of you" just because their job happens to pay less is absurd. You aren't doing the mutual effort thing in that case, and your partner would be better off elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:43 AM
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I mean, it's up to you. Do you want to be part of a team built on mutual respect and improving both your lives, or do you want to spend your life with a chip on your shoulder over what the world owes you? As an example of what I mean, if you have a couple where one works 45 hours as a software engineer and the other works 45 hours managing a grocery store, you would be a monster to conclude that the grocery store manager needs to wait on the software engineer because of the lower salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 02:56 AM
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It's completely fair. It's not like our economy is fair and rewards harder, better work with more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 01:58 AM
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Exact same, except with a kid. I work from home, make more, pay more,and do more chores. And 100%, it's fair. I'm not his servant. He takes care of himself and helps financially and otherwise. It's just about what works in any given, specific situation to help everyone involved have a better life. To OP, if the situation is husband earns a living, and wife does everything else, you've got a sweet deal. You have a servant who has to ask permission to spend money. She should leave, frankly, and ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 01:48 AM
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I agree that the word toxic is overused. A person has a right to ask their partner not to dress in a certain way. Their partner has a right to choose to dress however they want. If one half of a partnership feels it's disrespectful to dress provacatively, and the other half disagrees, it's probably not a good match. You're right that people change and compromise for the sake of relationships. That doesn't mean, however, that anyone has a right to go into a relationship with a specific expectatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 07:43 PM
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I'm a strong, take charge, alpha woman attracted to those same qualities in a man. Those qualities are not about bossing me around. I have never, ever tolerated that pathetic, arrogant bullshit. Confidence is not equivalent to putting someone in their place in order to rise above them. That behavior is compensation for something a person lacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 06:39 PM
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My assumption has ways been the character, because his name comes up, not just Brad Pitt. I think Brad Pitt is obviously attractive, but imo the character he plays there is vile (I don't mean morally, I mean he's not remotely sexy).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 02:19 AM
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This reminds me of how (and maybe this is just in my generation) men think women are in love with Tyler Durden from Fight Club. Literally never once in my life have I heard a woman mention him as attractive. I personally find that character/everything about him completely repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 08:56 PM
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Yes. Multiple times I dated and was physically attracted to men I had no initial physical attraction to. I was attracted to their intelligence, confidence and humor primarily. But those descriptions don't really capture it. It's more about how our personalities meshed. We had natural chemistry, and in those cases I just came to respect and even admire them. None of them are what I would call ugly. That word is super over-used. Very very few people have no redeeming physical qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 08:11 PM
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You aren't saying anything. "There's zero need to draw any conclusions" + [conclusion about women generally that says absolutely nothing]. All you did is list three movies, and then you said it's therefore "clear" women want something of them in their dating life. You really need to work on being coherent. Far more people watched Titanic than those movies, and it's not based on a book. Therefore it's obvious that that men and women want to stand on the front of a giant ship and spread their wing…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:55 PM
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Wait... Huh? What point are you making? The overall topic isn't whether romance is a "woman majority category" and also that isn't related to my specific question. Interesting that you picked these particular choices and then neglected to answer what conclusions you could draw about women generally from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:00 AM
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What popular romance movie do you think the masses watched and basically agreed upon, and what conclusions do you think you could draw from it about women generally when it comes to dating? I'm very curious. Maybe I could be persuaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 03:51 PM
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Omg good choice. The first Dune is hands down my favorite book. Messiah and Children of Dune are up there too. And God Emperor.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 03:39 AM
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Which one do you mean? I guess it depends on what you consider asking out? I pushed my number on the former relationship. He called and asked me to go out. With my husband, yeah I reached out and asked him out, but it was a set up so it's not like I asked him out because we met and I liked him. I'd seen a photo and he was physically my type, and the person trying to set us up was very sure we would like each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 03:36 AM
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Books aren't a good indication of anything because most people don't read regularly. Or to be more precise, popular books reflect what is popular among a niche of people that read regularly. This survey indicates almost half of people haven't read a single book in the last year: https://testprepinsight.com/resources/us-book-reading-statistics/?amp The survey also breaks down the number of people that read romance, and of that group, remember there are men that occasionally read romance. Sorry, y…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:38 PM
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He didn't leave. He kept shaming her for not doing enough and telling her to do more. You're still pathetically abusing the word "boundary". That word isn't about controlling someone else. If he doesn't want to date a surfer, that's his problem. It isn't hers. She hasn't violated any boundary of his by simply living her life. All that happened is he didn't want her for who she is and he led her on. It's not a boundary to say "I love you, so be a new person because that's my boundaries." And for …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:37 AM
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That's not what the word "boundary" means in this context. Check out this link: https://uhs.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/relationships_personal_boundaries.pdf A boundary isn't an excuse to control somebody else. If you want to find a stay-at-home partner, you establish that at the outset. If you hide that, and wait for them to get emotionally invested in you, you aren't asserting a boundary. You are manipulating them. You are an asshole. It's not just a lot to ask. He was cruel to her in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:32 AM
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Heads up for everyone looking stupid abusing therapy speak - you're not asserting a "boundary" when you demand your girl/boyfriend tank their business they had when you met. You're not a victim of their business. You're the asshole that led that person on when you never wanted to date someone with that business. K cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 06:52 PM
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I see this sentiment a lot. I'm sorry to break it to you. It's not true. I'll tell a story. My grandmother was born in the depression on a farm. Married twice and had three kids. Left her second husband with three still minor children to care for, and trudged the very difficult life of being a single, working mom in the 60s and 70s. She was attractive and socialized. Played piano in local restaurants even after retiring. She could have remarried any time. I never knew her married or even in a re…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:23 PM
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I approached my husband first, and a prior relationship. I did it in the former relationship case because I really wanted to see him again after a chance encounter. I did not think twice. I was very confident we had hit it off and he would be receptive (I was right). In the case of my husband, honestly I did it to have a funny story and because the person trying to set us up wouldn't relent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:52 PM
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I wouldn't feel cheated. It's obvious when people are highly stylizing their photos with lighting and angles, as opposed to using candid, natural shots. If I ever did online date (which I didn't, married and out of the dating scene), I wouldn't be interested in someone like that. And if I chose to go, I would know what I was getting into. And if in some weird scenario someone used candid shots that still oversold their appearance somehow (not really sure that's possible, but whatever), oh well. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:39 PM
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Right. To be with him, she had to tank her business. He gave her that ultimatum after she was emotionally invested, while shaming her for disrespecting him for continuing her business as she had when they met. That's manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:44 PM
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Oof look at that terrible therapist speak. I quoted you in the comment. It's the sentence in quotes. Here's the longer quote: "Yes, this is definitely true. But, real life is almost always fucking messy. I'm GUESSING that he first went for her because he liked how she looked. That was most likely 100% of it. Then, I'm guessing he fell in love with her. And, that changed how he felt about her career."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:41 PM
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Actually I didn't realize it's you, "puddingbike" lol same commenter above. You literally already acknowledged that this is about her income. "And, that changed how he felt about her career." Now you're pretending like it's "kooky" to talk about how he was trying to fuck with her income.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:42 PM
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"Kooky" when it's literally the topic of their conversations. He didn't approve of her career. He explicitly tells her she can't model. He tells her she can't interact with men while surfing. He tells her she can't post pictures in a bathing suit. She was a surf instructor. If he helped support her and then used that to stop her from building her own business to generate her own income, that supports my point. He was manipulating her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:39 PM
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I mean, who cares if you doubt when you haven't even read the messages lol. Your opinion is meaningless because it's admittedly totally uniformed. I've never said he isn't allowed to do anything. I said he's an asshole, which in the USA I'm allowed to think and say.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:33 PM
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If you haven't read the messages, why are you commenting?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:08 PM
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He's not an asshole for not wanting to date her. What are you going on about? He's an asshole for manipulating/insulting her to tank her career, using her feelings for him. If he didn't want to date her, who gives a shit? It's very very very simple - don't fuck with someone's income.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:07 PM
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My understanding is she's a surf instructor. Her business goes beyond posting the pictures, but promoting a business with pictures on social media is totally normal. None of these people, besides super trad people, defending Jonah Hill as reasonable would ever tolerate it if it was the woman shaming him for acting because it made her uncomfortable. In a super trad environment, fine, acting and surfing are not respectful careers. People that think like that can pick each other. Obviously that's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:20 PM
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If his views on her career changed, that's his problem, not hers. He shamed her about her career, her income, for disrespecting him. He actively set out to harm her business because all he cared about was his insecurity. That makes him the asshole. It's certainly not "permissible". We seriously need to socialize our girls to dump men at the first sign of this shit because she went along with it for way too long. It's not even demonization. This reminds me of when Jonah Hill lied about the thong …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:17 PM
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"My standards are you have to stop having your business the way you operate it that provides you income become my standards. Boundaries. And how dare you disrespect me by operating your business to pay your bills the way you always have!" The real bottom line is you read those texts and were like "it's totally cool to get a women emotionally invested and then intentionally set out to destroy her financial autonomy because I'm insecure"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:14 PM
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I have no doubt some people are trying to be sexy. I go to the gym lol. There are plenty of men and women that clearly want to look good while they're there. Different gyms have different proclivities for this. It's just the assumption that everyone is doing it for that reason, or that's the purpose of the clothing, is really dumb and false. Lots of people are just trying to be comfortable and focus on the work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:12 PM
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Jonah Hill was an asshole. His ex was wrong to release the private dms. Jonah Hill isn't guilty of emotional abuse in those messages, but he was an asshole. I never would have cared or commented on this story that I shouldn't even know about if I didn't see so many people reading the way he shamed her for her business that she had when they met and say "oh he's just communicating and being reasonable, look at how he says nice things in between mean things about her doing literally nothing even r…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:32 AM
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Do you mean male athletes? Because if so, they love skin tight tank tops. And skin tight shorts. Look up professional runners. Look up professional swimmers. It certainly depends on the individual and the type of exercise, but that's not really the point when you presume that a woman can only dress in tight clothing if it's about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:26 AM
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You said they're designed to be sexual. I'm disputing that. They're not. They are more comfortable to exercise in, which is why professionals prefer them. "Women who tend to do x..." this is just your bias. Professional athletes tend to be more comfortable in tight shorts and sports bras, and I'm 100% positive they don't care if it turns you on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 10:28 PM
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I don't have to pretend. I know that many women wear sports bras and tight shorts to work out in because it's convenient and comfortable. Unless you actually think professional track athletes are out there trying to turn you on, in which case I really think you should calm down on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 09:59 PM
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I genuinely think some people have a deep rooted desire to control others. It is narcissism and it's about power. This happens with both men and women. Everyone else should dump the shit out of those people. There is no scenario where you get someone emotionally invested in you while you're pretending to be comfortable with some aspect of their life, and then drop the hammer via an ultimatum with a side of shaming after they're in love, where you're not a straight up asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 07:42 PM
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I really don't care if men choose to not date women with high "body counts" (god that's a stupid phrase). People tend to date people with similar dating practices to their own anyway. I certainly think people that have had a lot of sex can be monogamous, but I believe there is a higher likelihood of cheating among people that have had a much higher than average number of former partners. That might be wrong too, I don't care about the issue enough to research it. Individuals don't make decisions…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 05:59 PM
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No that's not what he did. He did sound reasonable in some messages that have been bizarrely cherry picked, but he was reasonable sounding in between shaming and being an entitled asshole. As assholes tend to do, which is very passive aggressive. (But not abusive, this lady really looks ridiculous acting like she posted proof of emotional abuse. She posted proof of him being an ass that she should have walked away from way sooner)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:08 PM
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It's not a "boundary" to say, after the relationship is going strong, "oh btw I demand that you totally change your life. For me. Because boundaries." That's a very dumb use of that word.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:02 PM
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She's definitely not right for leaking it. See how I didn't deflect? She shouldn't have leaked. He wasn't a nice or reasonable communicator for the way he behaved toward her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 07:00 PM
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"my boundaries with you are based on the ways these actions have hurt our trust" "But these losers don't get your time if you want me, straight up. It's consideration" "Step up and cut shit. These people don't get your time or your kindness at the sacrifice of mine" "You don't seem to get it but it's not my place to teach you" "Take some accountability and operate with respect" "I'm tired of your attitude towards surf culture... I deserve respect" He was demanding she totally change her lifestyl…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:21 PM
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The Jonah Hill thing is really dumb because there's no real reason for it be public. She dodged a bullet, that's all. She should have just moved on. Releasing the private dms was super dumb and obnoxious and unjustified. But the way people are acting like he was so thoughtful to communicate is delusional lmao. It's actually not normal or thoughtful or kind to get into a serious relationship with someone presuming that they will totally change their lifestyle for you when you drop the hammer afte…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:09 PM
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Now I'm not totally hip with the lingo of you cool rp bros, but I believe "white knight" refers to male simps? So that would be a negative on that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:27 AM
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Obviously I disagree with such a stupid and mean spirited assessment of women generally, but that's neither here nor there. Whether you think women are hypocrites for being attracted to personal responsibility is irrelevant to the point that they're generally attracted to personal responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:08 AM
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Literally there's nothing in my post about women being accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 02:53 AM
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"already attractive" is meaningless. A person finds another person attractive, and can be repelled as they get to know that person, or they can learn things that increase their attraction. Some things would be neutral, but personal responsibility isn't one of those things. If any boy needs to be taught that there is no magical one quality needed to get laid generally, then I think it is more important to teach that boy that girls are human beings just the same as boys. They're complicated, they …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 02:50 AM
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Do you think most young boys need it spelled out that there is no magic one quality that will get them laid? And even if you actually do think that, that isn't really the spirit of your point. You were implying that it isn't true that women like this quality, because it's other qualities that this may or may not attach itself to that they like. So I'm gonna go ahead and reiterate the point: A common quality that women like is personal responsibility. A common quality that women dislike is lack o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 01:02 AM
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Yes Einstein, having one particular quality doesn't guarantee that women who like that quality will have sex with you. Super insightful point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 12:17 AM
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Wtf does this have to do with what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 08:58 PM
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Do you think tall successful chads run around blaming all their own life choices on everyone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 08:50 PM
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You know what I think girls like? Maturity in the form of personal responsibility. Blaming society, women generally, etc., for all of your own life choices wouldn't qualify.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 07:51 PM
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I mean, I'm probably in a different age group than you, but based on my recollection of being a woman in my 20s with friends that were women in their 20s, we would talk about relationship stuff all the time. When it comes niche social media, most people, male or female, don't frequent this kind of sub. Most people don't engage in conversations with strangers on social media, at least not regularly. People that are here regularly are probably disposed to in depth discourse on topics most people j…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:57 PM
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I don't know about group settings necessarily, although maybe. For sure in one-on-one settings, or smallish groups of 3-4. Large groups like at a party situation probably not. I can't think of a time. Those conversations tend to be more surface level. But yeah, most people have heard of Andrew Tate and he comes up. I also have a teenage daughter and red pill is pretty relevant in her world. My husband, daughter and I have had more than a few good laughs about things related to the red pill topic…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:24 PM
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Most people are on Facebook and Instagram. Reddit itself is niche with "normal" people. I definitely think even being aware of red pill is super niche. But when I tell people about it, they're for sure interested lmao. (And I do, because being embarassed about engaging on social media sounds like something a person would grow out of in their teens)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 06:09 PM
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Do you psychoanalyze why a person would frequent other subs? Seems like a super giant waste of time to me. People do weird shit. Browsing the PPD sub doesn't rate anywhere on the list of weird shit I do. You seem sort of new to the world. People talk about relationships. People have different levels of comfort with how much they share. People have different levels of interest in the topic. All ends of those various spectrums rank pretty normal. "It's just her being her again" seems like a very n…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:49 PM
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Who is hiding anything? Why would anyone do that? For engaging in discourse on reddit? Nah. I feel like a lot of things your gf could do might drive you nuts/be a turn off. That's not ideal in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 04:03 PM
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The real problem with all of these debates is people presuming some thing that they feel is a rule they must project on everyone. The real "grow up" message is do what you feel is important to you while recognizing that you aren't everyone. Hopefully you find the partner that agrees that each of you is entitled to know all personal details about your pasts. Have fun with that. I certainly own my past. As in, it's mine. My partner doesn't want the personal details about who I've loved, and I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:59 PM
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Please. My super hot husband who I adore more than anything shares your politics. Don't mistake terminally online people desperate to convince others of the value of redpill for anything normal or mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:12 AM
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Every single self sufficient woman I know has zero "beta orbiters." They're just adults with careers and mortgages and hobbies and friends. They hire (and pay) people to fix things when they can't do it themselves. Are you referring to college aged women with male friends that they frequently hang out with or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 07:05 PM
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If you find a partner that enjoys this and both of you are happy, more power to you. I just cannot understand the appeal for either party of this, though. I'm an adult. I want to be with an adult. Your ideal dynamic, to me, sound like an adult dragging around a concubine or something. Basically, an adult that we don't recognize as having autonomy on their own. I would never tolerate someone else thinking for me in life, regardless of whether it's out of the kindness of their heart, because I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 08:11 PM
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Oh no, compromise and dispute resolution skills! I don't just "get along," that's for suckers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 04:31 PM
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Good god some people on this sub have a massive problem understanding the difference between individuals and generalizations. There are men that would do the same with rich and powerful women. Hell, I've seen average men tolerate their average wives stepping out. Does that mean I think it is generally true that men have a tolerance for this if the woman is desired enough? Obviously not, I'm not an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:07 PM
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He's hilarious, he's a good, kind-hearted person, he's respectful, he's open-minded, he's very community oriented (our whole neighborhood looks to him for assistance when needed), he's warm and affectionate, he's pro-active and makes the most of every moment, he doesn't play emotional games, he's very smart, especially in ways that complement and/or challenge how I think and view the world, he is super attractive and I never tire of looking at him, age is making him/us together even better, he h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:11 PM
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This was my reaction. Genuinely don't understand what made him so mad. Being open to a date doesn't mean they definitely want to keep dating. But agree to split the check for a first date ahead of time if that's a point of irritation. And do something easy, like meet at a bar. No need for a first class dinner on a get-to-know-you outing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 06:03 PM
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You're an amazing person. Truly. Really keyed in to how the world works too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 03:58 AM
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If you want an idea to be taken seriously, by me anyway, it shouldn't begin with the following: For decades now women have been filling young men’s heads with nonsense... that all women want is a nice boy who treats them right.... As men got older, [they] gradually discovered the hard way that the exact opposite was the case So the premise is that the idea that women want a nice boy who treats them right is nonsense, and the opposite is the case, meaning they want a not nice boy who doesn't trea…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 09:30 PM
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I see your point except I feel there's anger in this population about women somehow deceiving them by not saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:46 PM
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I have no idea why "I want a nice guy [who I'm attracted to]" isn't automatically assumed. I would never hear "I just want a girl that doesn't play games with me" and think, "oh this guy wants an unattractive woman who is emotionally mature."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:28 PM
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Your whole premise is built on the idea that women are lying when they say they want to be treated well? Mkay lol good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:14 PM
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I am always, always skeptic of surveys about happiness because what a person considers to be happy, and what a person is willing to admit in that regard, varies so much. For example, I'm an atheist and I am constantly shown surveys that atheists are more depressed than religious people. Sure, but in my experience, it is specifically ex-religious people that have issues with this, not lifelong atheists, and surveys never make that divide. Similarly, I've seen a lot of atheists/former religious pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:24 PM
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Obsessing with this idea is just rank insecurity. People have failed relationships, men and women. Either you can be totally fine with this very normal thing, or you can be paranoid and obsess over how you stack up. One of these sounds like a giant waste of time, but more importantly, will ultimately probably lead to another failed relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:24 PM
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Enjoying each other's company, no games/cruelty or passive aggressiveness, vulnerability and intimacy. Also, living independent lives as well. Don't give up your interests that your partner doesn't share. Be individuals choosing to share life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 04:21 PM
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Oh so you want to take back having said explicitly that they answer in basic generic physical aspects? You should have retracted the first time I quoted you directly. I tend to hold people to their words. I'll just agree to disagree. You are pretending a thing I know isn't true while also assuming weird malicious intent to the thing you're making up. It isn't hard at all to get women to talk about their types, including physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:29 PM
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I actually addressed your point directly by literally quoting you. You're now doubling down on an absurd, irrational point even clearer than you did the first time. So, to quote you again, your argument literally is that women "avoid the topic" by naming only "very basic generic physical aspects". In other words, you are so desperate to accuse women generally of lying that you'll say they're lying by directly answering the question, just too vaguely for your satisfaction. My guess is that unless…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:21 PM
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Oh no, she'll only list "very basic generic physical aspects" when asked a very basic, generic question?! What an outrage! That's exactly the same as lying!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 11:08 PM
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Are you trolling me? I really don't buy that you think people never/can't use attraction to manipulate a person. Obviously that can occur. Secondarily from that, naive people are easier to manipulate. The manipulation is NOT getting the subject to like the person back. That's just what attraction is. Obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 10:24 PM
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Huh? Attraction would be the tool used in the manipulation, meaning a younger, naive girl's attraction to a person can be used to get her to do/agree to things she otherwise wouldn't. An older woman would be less likely to fall for that shit. Same thing in the reverse, of course. A younger man could be more easily manipulated by an older woman than an older man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 09:52 PM
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Of course women care about looks. I've never seen a woman deny that. This post is an argument against a unicorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 06:23 PM
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Younger women are more likely to be inexperienced and naive. Younger women are generally going to be easier to manipulate and push around. It doesn't necessarily mean they're easier to have sex with. It does mean they are easier to dominate, they have less opinions, etc. Red pill guys are pretty open about this from what I've seen. I definitely think modern men are generally fine with career women, and the terminally online idea that they're not is bunk. Men everywhere in my experience, regardle…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 04:26 PM
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1 I guess. I'm actually probably between 1 & 2 realistically, for both men and women. I don't dislike roughly half of all people, but there are more than a few that I don't care for. Generally, I give everyone the benefit of the doubt when I meet them, including men. I'm happily married, so my views didn't harm my sex life. When I was single and dating throughout my 20s, I had good experiences and bad experiences. I was naive at times. I definitely dated people that I initially wouldn't have tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 08:02 PM
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I'm literally agreeing with the OP. I have no idea wtf you think I'm invalidating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:31 PM
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No I was calling the post the OP was responding to toxic, the one that calls men emotionally immature for leaving a friendship after being romantically rejected. I agree that a person should never take advantage of unrequited romantic interest. There's no excuse for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 08:19 PM
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I dunno, in my generation that was definitely not the norm. Some people talked that way, sure, and acted that way, but definitely not everyone or most. Given recent stats that young people are actually having less sex than previous generations, I'm skeptical. But it doesn't really matter because the thread is about the differences in how people define the word "single". Anecdotally from what I've seen/experienced, women are more likely to view a casual hook up scenario as more serious than the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 06:53 PM
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Yeah I've never noticed any significant difference between men and women here, except when one person thinks their casual hookup is more serious than the other. But that can go either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:30 PM
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That doesn't make the statement that women are "happier single" disingenuous. But sure, saying "toxic male entitlement makes it harder for men to handle singlehood [than] women" is disingenuous. I definitely wouldn't ascribe blame to the observation that many people think seems to be true. Of course I don't know that it actually is true. I don't what the demographics of single older men are, meaning above 20s, but the big issue with single men seems to be with men in their 20s. I know older, sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 03:02 PM
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It doesn't depend on your goal. The point about autonomy stands regardless of your goal. Your point about a lot of kids agrees with my point. If the woman lucks into a great partner and loves that life (meaning, wants a bunch of kids and that makes her super happy) then it's beneficial. Independence isn't necessarily a contrary goal and it has nothing to do with the point of autonomy. I mean, unless you think having the freedom to not be trapped in an abusive or otherwise miserable partnership i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 02:34 PM
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It can be beneficial if a woman lucks into a great partner and loves that life, but it's very risky. It requires a trade of autonomy, unless the woman comes from wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 11:54 PM
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This was my immediate thought and it's been my experience globally (outside of Europe, because I've never been there). And not just women, but a long shot lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 03:43 PM
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Pretending your question is honest: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/misogyny
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:32 AM
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Relationships are inherently about compromise. Literally everyone settles, because human beings arent inherently wealthy and attractive perfect sex bots.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:45 PM
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OP I am so with you. I don't see the point at all. I constantly see people defend it based on averages or most of X group likes/is like this. But so what? Nobody fits the "average" or the "most" 100% of the time. Also nobody picks partners based on that. It's so divorced from human interaction imo. People connect on the things that they have in common, and often especially on the things that make them outside the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:19 PM
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All men are definitely not misogynists, but there are misogynists in all groups of men just as there are non-misogynists in all groups of men. Or put another way, there are assholes in every category of people, men and women. The fallacy is thinking jocks are automatically misogynists and nerds are automatically nice guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:05 PM
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Unrequited romantic affection of course impacts a friendship. No one is entitled or obligated to friendship. I agree that the post is wrong, toxic even. I'd run for the hills if someone talked to me like that. It isn't emotionally immature to decide a friendship isn't working for you anymore. It's a choice anyone has a right to make for whatever reason they want, and the person making the choice is the only person that has any inherent right to psychoanalyze the choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:00 PM
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I don't know why anyone cares about the dating choices of consenting adults. If there's a "movement" of guys dating non-Americans, good for them. When I was single, I vastly preferred non-American men to American men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 02:13 PM
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Super sound logic. The tldr is if women didn't make misogynists hate women, men wouldn't hate women, so women are to blame for misogynists hating them. Similarly, if specific racial groups didn't make racists hate them, racists wouldn't hate them, so specific racial groups are to blame for racism. Essentialization is this manner is very helpful and sane. Also thoughtful. I love being intellectually challenged by very deep thoughts on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 11:17 PM
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That's funny. Constant condescension from red pillers about how we don't understand red pill because it's super deep or nobody is saying the thing they're explicitly saying, etc., has zero influence on my opinions. Speaking from my super high perch morally superior and of higher value to yours, I think for myself regardless of the arrogance of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:49 PM
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"I don't think women owe men sex, I just think I have a right to expect sex from women that I think are at or below my level of attractiveness" A woman having whatever standards she wants, including being willing to be on her own if she can't find them, isn't a woman feeling "entitled" to anything. Women get rejected too. Men have every right to do that, and they do. Every woman I know has been rejected at one point or another. It's just that woman are allowed to be however picky they want, incl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:42 PM
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Oh good point. Persuasive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:28 AM
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Based the OP sexualizing something as generic as leggings while women work out, I'd say men are the ones always sexualizing women's bodies
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 01:56 AM
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I have no idea how can you make a long post complaining about women's lack of modesty and then act confused when someone characterizes it as whining. I go to all kinds of normal places where no one, man or woman, is doing a bunch of selfies. Including my gym, btw. Occasionally there are selfies there, men and women, but it's definitely not constant or overywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 06:49 PM
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Agree with your first sentence, so not sure how you can defend your original whining about specifically women and their selfies. To your second paragraph, I have, so I don't know what to tell you. Also wife beaters, which are tight and revealing like skin, to your original point. I don't care about the last point. You're just restating one of the arguments I'm making fun of.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 06:34 PM
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Selfie culture is not just among women lmao. Also, it has zero to do with modesty. But the complaining about leggings at the gym reveals your point anyway. "How dare women not be ashamed of exposing their bodies... With leggings!" Why TF would that be shameful? Are swimsuits shameful? Guys go shirtless at the gym. It's practical to exercise without clothes flapping around. I know this point has been made a 1000 times, but it's been ignored 1000 times too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 06:08 PM
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Well I don't have a PhD in red pill logic. 40-45% of the population, all of whom are women, not deserving companionship certainly seems like a red pill argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:28 PM
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Lmao touche
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 08:16 PM
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Sure. Honestly I enjoy these types of weird red pill posts over the ones that lean toward women deserving less autonomy. Some women have chosen to adopt more masculine traits, and some of them will choose to be single. Some of them will marry/partner up. Some of them will end up single not by choice. Whether you think they deserve a relationship is totally moot. Have fun with your totally pointless condemnation of, I guess, around a quarter of the population?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:20 PM
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Omg I know. Jesus Christ pointing out the factual existence of a financial incentive does not mean men are victims. Holy shit. Again. I'm not red pill. I'm a normal person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 02:10 PM
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I agree with the substance of your points here, though I have no idea the relevance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 05:02 AM
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I'm not pissed off...? Weird thing to infer. You're the one clearly emotional about a factual observation of the existence of a financial incentive to initiate a divorce. If you think I'm condemning or judging women for this, you're projecting some other experiences. I couldn't be less red pill lmao. I mentioned maintenance bc it still exists in much more rare circumstances than it used to, but the main point was about child support. Significantly more women are the caregivers post divorce, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 04:53 AM
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No I totally disagree, but I guess it could depend on how you are defining "clown". If by clown you mean these men are portrayed as imperfect but lovable and romantic, then sure. I agree that women like them too, although definitely not because of your weird judgment as to why they like them. Unlike the red pill whining about ads complementing all body types in order to sell products, I'm not ascribing malicious intent to transform society with these shows. I like many of the examples I gave bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 09:35 PM
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Again, why are people presuming sexuality? The article above that is linked referencing number of partners is sourced to the CDC (and by the way, they are reporting medians, not averages). The CDC didn't limit their responses to heterosexuals. It just reports for people generally. The article links other studies, but again I'm not seeing them establish that they are only questioning heterosexuals. It would be very lame to do so anyway. If you are surveying sexual partners, why would you limit th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 08:27 PM
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Great, so we can assume they have the same amount then I guess. How often do these surveys distinguish sexuality? I have a seen a bunch that in no way specify heterosexuality. CDC data is literally just asking for the number of partners for men and number of partners for women. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nsfg/key_statistics/n.htm#numberlifetime
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 08:15 PM
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I have no idea why you think your first sentence is relevant to the point of the existence of a financial incentive. I think that couples split up without rushing to file for divorce all the time out of laziness and/or out of expense and/or out of lack of need. In the end, women are more likely to have a financial need to initiate the divorce. You wrote a paragraph of obvious speculation about maintenance while ignoring the obviously larger, more important point, of child support. Engaging in a …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 08:11 PM
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I find that modern young women care a hell of a lot more about age gaps than older women, personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 05:57 PM
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Yeah that's why I said FLDS. FLDS means Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (fundamentalist mormons in other words, the ones that still believe in polygamy).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 05:37 PM
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It's so weird how red pill people talk about women being cool with being bang maid #3 for high quality men (or however TF they phrase it) when it's so fucking bizarre and rare that anyone telling a story about an actual example of it sounds like a lie. Unless they're Muslim or FLDS. I don't know a single woman that would willingly agree to live like this. That includes every end of the political spectrum in the United States.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 05:23 PM
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The ugly guy with the beautiful partner that is portrayed as lovable and romantic is the butt of the joke? Keep telling yourself that buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 05:17 PM
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There's a much better reason women are more likely to initiate divorce, and it has nothing to do with the assumption that women are no longer forced to stay in unhealthy marriages. It baffles me that this is so often ignored in analyses of the issue. Women are more likely to be incentivized to file the divorce. Court ordered child support, or spousal maintenance, don't start until the divorce proceedings are initiated.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:58 PM
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I didn't make a counterargument genius. I said the person was describing romcoms that exist in multitude. The whole point was stupid and doesn't need a counterargument. Crying because some ads exist that call all bodies beautiful is dumb, just as it would be dumb to whine that ugly guy/beautiful woman is a popular trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:03 PM
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I have no idea what distinction you think you're making between a sitcom and a romcom. A sitcom is often just a romcom, episodic style. The two sitcoms I listed portray the romance in question as romantic. There's no point except to be entertaining, just like there's no point of the adds being incessantly bitched about besides to sell a product.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 11:01 PM
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Uh well they're also genuine romances that happen to be funny. They're not portraying the couple as something bad. They make the supposedly ugly man lovable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 10:59 PM
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Off the top of my head, but there are definitely more, King of Queens, Modern Family, Knocked Up, Roger Rabbit. Genuinely surprised you would ask because this is a well known trope. Edit ~ holy shit, I forgot my favorite - My Cousin Vinny
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 10:53 PM
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Let me know the next time you see posters and billboards with some fat hairy bald guy with the caption "this is what a REAL man looks like" on it. This describes the premise of so many romcoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 10:46 PM
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Hits you in the feels, I get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 09:14 PM
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I constantly see people say things like this on here without any data. Just assertions clearly originating from a negative bias. That's all you did here, and one thing I have learned from this forum is to never, ever accept red pill assertions without data because so often they are garbage. So, what is your data to support the idea that people lie about this in significant numbers in surveys, and to what extent do they lie? Meaning, how much are they lying up or down typically? By the way, both …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 05:14 PM
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The post literally addressed this with data showing the average man has more partners than the average woman and at least some evidence that women have higher sexless rates than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:02 PM
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Yeah in the U.S. This study I think hints at a possible reason: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513811001401
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 05:08 PM
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A claim was made that I don't buy in any significant way, so I asked for evidence. Your evidence is, you've seen it? Yeah I'm 100% sure that some women somewhere think this way. I don't buy that the number of women that do is significant. That's a claim that needs evidence, and by evidence I mean data. Not that you've seen it. Until then, I'm not going to accept the premise of the thread at face value.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 02:08 PM
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There's no bias or judgment when I say quality of life impacts people's decisions in relationships. That's an observation. There is bias and judgment in, "... and even tolerate lesser value men in order to be financially supported?" I'm not co-signing your bias or judgments, both of which are boring. Anyway, the topic is about what I think is a false claim that redpillers keep making, which is that educated women think their education makes them more attractive just because they see evidence it …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:46 PM
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Sure, without your editorializing. Obviously relationships have a component of surviving. You loaded your question with bias and judgment. Men also weigh financial consequences of relationship decisions, just as much as women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:36 PM
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I would say that anyone that lacks financial autonomy has to consider the impact to their quality of life when making relationship decisions. "Lesser men" is a meaningless phrase to me. I think a person that would financially struggle a lot if they left a relationship will tolerate more bad treatment than someone that has total autonomy. And then there's a spectrum between someone totally dependent and someone totally autonomous. Everywhere on the spectrum, quality of life will weigh on decision…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 09:38 PM
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Yeah it never influenced me either. If career and education were a turn off for a man, that was totally fine with me because I wasn't interested in what they were looking for. There's all types. But tbh, I don't think my education and career were a plus even with my husband. They definitely weren't a negative, and he holds respect for me for them, but I really think our relationship is mainly just about our personalities. We love spending time together. We have fun, we have interesting conversat…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 07:39 PM
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Right you're saying that, but is it true? What evidence do you have that educated women think this way? I am a woman with a graduate degree and I have many friend that are women with graduate degrees. I can't think of any woman that I know that at least outwardly thinks her graduate degree makes her more of a catch. I think the graduate degree makes her more confident to reject whatever she doesn't want, mainly because she's fine being single in the alternative because she can support herself. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:53 PM
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Okay well, "closely matched" is in quotes because you said it. Fair enough. We're both biased based on our individual circles so it is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:25 PM
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Okay gotcha, so it just boils down to disagreeing whether 3.5 hours more per week on leisure for men and 2 hours more work for women is "closely matched". There's no crystal ball. It's self report from both men and women, and that's how the data shook out. You can assume it's bullshit if you want, but I'd be curious if you have any evidence to base that conclusion on. Personally, it matches a lot of what I see among married millennials in the middle class, so if I was a young zoomer woman seeing…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:17 PM
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No it isn't a chicken or egg question. Of course they had more power being physically stronger on average. That supports my point. No clue why you'd raise that. It's extremely simple. If you make a rule that benefits you, and harms others who had no say in the rule, that's no a coincidence. That's self motivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 05:46 PM
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Where are you quoting that 60/40 number from? "Husbands in egalitarian marriages spend about 3.5 hours more per week on leisure activities than wives do. Wives in these marriages spend roughly 2 hours more per week on caregiving than husbands do and about 2.5 hours more on housework." This isn't fairly closely matched. There no doubt is exaggeration in individual situations, which is why it's good to always question and compare anecdote with data. Is there a trend, or are these outliers? There's…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 05:44 PM
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How convenient that you just explain away why women had few rights, right after stating that having limited rights couldn't have hindered women's rise to equality (or if it did it's their fault). The benefits men had weren't merely attached to their contribution since they're the ones that made the rules. They simply made rules that benefited them and their sensibilities, and women had no say.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 05:04 PM
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It's no harder to parse than any of the other data. I've never seen anyone claim there's a "lazy men" domestic apocalypse, but I have seen young women recognize that older women in their lives carry a heavier burden at home while also working, and conclude that they'd be better off single than to end up like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 05:00 PM
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Yes, divorce and marriage rates are dropping. https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-us-divorce-rate-has-hit-a-50-year-low Marriage rates seem to be tied to income/economic stability. Middle class people are more likely to get married and stay married according to that article. It's a lot easier for a couple to be middle class if the wife is also making money. I work with couples in financial hardship, and imo the problems don't come from complaints that a person's job is crappy in a vacuum. It's about …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 03:41 PM
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This feeling is basically why I'm subbed here
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 03:00 PM
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/plurality Plurality: "a number greater than another" https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/majority Majority: "a number or percentage equaling more than half of a total" Why are you picking such a silly fight? I said a minority regularly use dating apps, which means <50%. That's the point. Just about 50% of young people have ever used them. Some amount less than that regularly use them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 02:52 PM
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https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/02/02/key-findings-about-online-dating-in-the-u-s/#:~:text=Current%20or%20recent%20online%20dating,in%20a%20committed%20romantic%20relationship. That's not a majority. That's a plurality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:54 AM
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40, F, married I wish younger folks understood that dating sucks and it always sucked. A lot of the complaints are really just about someone having a collection of bad dates and then drawing conclusions about "women" or "men" generally. My husband and I are happily married, and we both have very awful and cringe memories of the dating world. We often joke about how relieved we are to be done with it. But we got through it and found what we wanted, so it was all just a part of life experience. Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 06:19 PM
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Gay men are real danger of being assaulted if they hit on the wrong man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 05:18 PM
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Everyone deserves a partner that doesn't do this to them. I wish everyone realized that being single is far superior to being with somebody that makes your life worse by making you feel like crap all the time. There's nothing wrong with crying in front of your girlfriend and opening up. You dodged a bullet getting away from someone that would use that against you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 03:50 PM
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I agree with all of this. Awesome take.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:18 PM
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No it is an absurd myth that women generally like being treated like shit. Some women seem to because they date men that treat them like shit. I think there is some unhealthy shit happening in their heads that has nothing to do with being turned on when their partner talks to them like a dog. It's something more akin to thinking they don't deserve better, and they get really really excited and happy when the asshole treats them well. They're waiting for those moments. Anyone that says anything a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:02 PM
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It's all speculation, but I mean, it definitely happens in a very common fashion: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/why-bad-looks-good/201908/why-many-young-women-prefer-to-date-older-men "In their study of 173 women, 44 of whom were dating men at least approximately 10 years older" Most people date close to their age, but lots of people don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 08:40 PM
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"Shared"? They're individuals that are choosing to date who they want. They're not toys. But thanks for exposing yourself while looking up to red pill losers that brag about dating multiple women at a time to guys complaining that all the women they want to date are taken. It turns out, women are attracted to intelligence and stability, which older guys have more than younger guys. It has nothing to do with 80/20. Every single younger man will become an older guy. Red pill is moronic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:16 PM
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The second link reinforces the first link, neither of which make his point. Women are dating men, just not young men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 02:51 PM
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Who are those young women dating? My guess is older men. They're still mostly dating men. The disparity isn't lesbian relationships. Maybe young men should try dating older women. And also, blame red pill communities that encourage one sided open relationships. Your math doesn't add up. This isn't a path to 80/20 (and I don't mean the literal 80/20 stat, I mean your larger point about women only actually liking 20% of men). You're trying to force a square peg in a round hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 02:50 PM
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I don't care about your opinions of polygamy. You made in irrational comparison between a sentiment of perhaps a lack of empathy with a desire to force servitude on women. You framed in a way to portray yourself as the victim, too. All around bad news. No wonder you're running from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:30 PM
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No it doesn't. And again, still running from the point. Your comparison was absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:20 PM
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What does this have to do with anything I said? lmao I dgas if other people want to practice polygamy. It's not for me though.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:13 PM
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Funny how "This is just how things always were" only flies when things are bad for men. If I say that women shouldn't work, and should be married and pregnant by 20yo, because that's how things were for most of human history, that's unacceptable. Right, because you are trying to equate "well shit, life sucks and it always has sucked, sorry," with "women should be forced to live the way I want them to live, regardless of how they want to live." Yeah, slavery was also common in human history. We d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:04 PM
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I read everything you said, but frankly I would have agreed with a simple tldr: "be confident" is terrible advice. I don't even think it qualifies as advice. It's more like a platitude someone uses to say something polite and then move on. Of course it's true that confidence is attractive to women. I think it's also attractive to men. "Be successful" is the same thing. It's an empty platitude. Yes it's attractive. No it's not really a meaningful statement as advice. I definitely agree that there…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 05:26 PM
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Married with a kid. Both work full time. Although I make more, I am self-employed and therefore make my own hours and can be flexible with kid needs. It's also easier for me to do more housework because I work from home. But my husband helps, and he leads on yard work and cooking (though we often do those things together). The important thing for any partnership, imo, is actually being a partnership. Flexibility is key. Everyone's circumstances are different. The idea is to make it work for your…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 04:50 PM
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"These problems didn't exist before the 60's." https://psychcentral.com/blog/a-glimpse-into-marriage-advice-from-the-1950s#1 Yes they did. People really need to stop pretending we're straying from some relationship utopia that existed in the past. When people have choices, whether legally or socially or both, they tend to start making those choices. Removing the choices doesn't solve the problem. Casual sex exists in a free society. I definitely think hook up culture is bad for many people, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 03:59 PM
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I have never pretended men aren't on average stronger. Don't strawman to make silly points. Fairness if it has never come up. Youre ignoring my points to strawman, which doesn't bode well for your position.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:02 PM
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I'm not ignoring reality. I have multiple times pointed to data. Where's yours? Here's a hint about reality. Men are, on average, stronger than women on average. There are also strong women that are much stronger than the average woman. As I said, there would be adjustments. There would be a learning curve (for both in this scenario). Men and women, on their own, would in the end be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:57 PM
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Just gonna point out here that apparently the primary hurdle to women in these industries is inflexible hours not being compatible with motherhood. Women are still recruited and capable. https://www.constructiondive.com/news/percentage-of-women-construction-higher-than-ever/637033/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1280262
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:51 PM
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You are kidding yourself if you actually believe a society of just women would collapse lol. Reads like cope to me. I don't know why you seem to want this to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:43 PM
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Sure, but so? The skillset is there. Like men, women are capable of problem solving and management. When the women on city counsel notice that their sewage maintenance team of 10 all disappeared, they'll send some women down. In the internet era, figuring out how to do shit in cases where there is no woman to teach them, they can get on Google or youtbe. The idea that either men or women would fail in this scenario is a little silly imo. The evidence is in. Society would adjust and be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:13 PM
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Since statistically men do more of the crime and reckless behavior, less cops and firefighters wouldn't be so much of a problem. Also this a pretty dated perspective. Women are in all these industries. Most wives in today's western world aren't stay at home moms. They're working AND doing the household stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:55 PM
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No man in my life has ever given a shit about the sex of my gyno. I've had men and women as gynos during my life. I'm fine with it, and I've never even imagined asking what my husband or dad thinks about it. Fascinating thread. I do have friends that prefer women. I get that's a thing. It just isn't for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:51 PM
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In any two person interaction, both people are entitled to have fun. Nobody is saying or implying otherwise. That you're strawmanning in this way demonstrates that you're the one who only cares about one specific gender having fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:45 PM
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