AikenDrumstick Archive

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–	Do women really see men in shorts as less attractive? I wear cargo shorts with my dad bod and I am dead sexy! Yeah!	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/08/26 07:18 AM
–	CMV: On the topics of "red pill women should avoid dating red pill men" vs "red pill men should avoid dating red pill women," the latter is more true, even though people are more likely to say the former I love every bit of this. So true. Red pill men are the brave truth-tellers in world of liars. Some of those liars are women who want to confuse them by agreeing with their utterly brilliant reduction of human relationships to a super scientific quantifiable set of marketplace parameters that are definitely not made of rickety analogies held together by a spackle made of despair and cope. OP’s brilliance is exemplified by his spot-on, undebatable identification of “women’s insane expectations.” …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/26 07:22 AM
3	How do women know what about personality turns them on? That is NOT what she is saying. She’s just saying individual personality traits by themselves don’t cause someone to get “turned on.” It’s a combination of lots of factors and it’s hard to quantify how it works. Also, within those categories is a lot of room for variation. “Funny” isn’t just an ability to make people laugh. A guy who tells a lot of hysterically funny jokes isn’t going to be nearly as successful as someone who finds a common sense of humor and builds laughs through shared observa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/26 03:41 PM
–	Tradwives reduce men to a paycheck and a bodyguard while Feminists want an actual partner. The point of disagreement we still have is that I think you are identifying some men’s feelings (“now I’m expected to do more stuff”) and blaming feminists for having those expectations and causing those feelings. I don’t think either of those things are true or correct. What I DO think is that in a world where various women have differing sets of expectations, it can look - from a man’s perspective - that they have to be ALL of those things. But I think that’s largely mistaken. Expectations are…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/26 10:46 PM
–	Tradwives reduce men to a paycheck and a bodyguard while Feminists want an actual partner. You are misreading me and then explaining why I am wrong! I didn’t claim that an anecdote or example would “prove” anything at all. But when one side has examples and the other doesn’t, that’s at least an interesting data point. So okay - this is not about your dating life, specific feminists you’ve seen, or any specific TYPE of feminism - it’s just “modern.” And you can’t cite any references in modern feminist thought, point to any statistics or polls that would back this up, or offer any evide…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/26 07:27 PM
–	Tradwives reduce men to a paycheck and a bodyguard while Feminists want an actual partner. Yeah, we won’t agree. Your “broader pattern” isn’t real. The idea that “modern feminists still hold traditional expectations” is a fantasy. Do you not see how attributing something to “modern feminists” and then not being able to name ONE self-avowed feminist who holds those views… is weird? Do you not see how explaining THAT away as a “broader pattern” seems like a cheap dodge? To me, at least, it looks like you’re using “feminists” and “ expectations” to express something that is a self-impose…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/26 07:58 AM
1	Tradwives reduce men to a paycheck and a bodyguard while Feminists want an actual partner. I get what you’re saying. I just don’t think you have any special idea of what a feminist IS. It’s just a term that gets thrown around in places like this. To me, your laundry list of what “modern feminists” expect from men is a hodgepodge of grievance. I don’t think I’ve ever met a single individual feminist who expected men “to earn, protect, initiate, lead when necessary, stay emotionally strong, be confident, be sexually attractive, split domestic work equally and provide constant emotional …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/26 08:47 AM
2	Tradwives reduce men to a paycheck and a bodyguard while Feminists want an actual partner. I’m not sure what your definition of “modern feminist” is, but it doesn’t sound like it has much to do with actual feminism. It just sounds like you’re using “feminist” as a catchall term for “these uppity women these days.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/26 05:49 AM
–	Not having sex is an acceptable outcome Consent aside, if you ask a woman (whom you are not dating) for sex 10 times… you’re an asshole. And quite possibly a sociopath. It falls into that category of “legal but NOT okay.” Like intentionally farting on an elevator. Like telling a random school kid that they’re ugly. Like sitting next to a fearful flyer on a plane and telling airline disaster stories. You can spin scenarios where asking ten times is in fact coercion. And you can spin scenarios in which it isn’t. But saying “no” to a fri…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/26 04:01 AM
1	Having women as friend makes your dating life significantly easier as a man This post is completely right and matches my lived experience.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/26 03:31 PM
8	Why do so many women end up choosing the guy who was simply more present? For the last time, I am NOT questioning your sincerity! I am questioning your maturity and your fitness to be a partner. Most men honestly DO want more than sex from their partners. Especially long-term partners. They’re not lying or “telling women what they want to hear.” Me, I like women who are smart, kind, funny, curious, share my interests but also have their own, genuinely like spending time with me, can hang out alone or in groups, have interesting friends, have skills and talents, are in…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 06:43 PM
10	Why do so many women end up choosing the guy who was simply more present? Nope, I am not implying you should lie. I’m saying that based on your statements, you were NOT the better choice for that woman. Or most women. I can’t believe I have to say this, but if all you want from a woman is “huge boobs and a willingness to have sex once a day,” and you don’t care what she does with the rest of her time… you’re either very young or super clueless. I don’t think I’ve ever met a woman who would be happy with a man who wanted only that and nothing more. I have some advice, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 06:08 PM
10	Why do so many women end up choosing the guy who was simply more present? Wow. Well, you have definitely just proved you were not the better choice for the woman who chose that other guy!	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 09:33 AM
2	Could having standards that are too high be helped with therapy? Honestly, I wish it was just porn. But it’s SO much more than that. It’s billboards and movies and TV shows and an entire male-gaze culture. I’m happy to be old and smart and on the other side of that shit, but it is really a cradle-to-grave mindfuck!	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 09:18 AM
22	Most men give their attention so freely to women that it doesn't mean anything to them anymore. I don’t think there are a lot of “at least moderately attractive” women who are “boring, have no interests, entitled, have nothing of interest to say about anything” and are “terrible people.” You constructed that hypothetical woman at the outset to prove your point. That isn’t how people exist in the world. Most women don’t hang around and live with no interests, no personality, and etc just because they can attract male attention. That’s not a thing. That’s just you expressing misogynist trope…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/26 09:07 AM
4	Could having standards that are too high be helped with therapy? The best you can do is understand that your standards aren’t “high.” They are skewed by social conditioning. If you learn to “lower your standards,” you are still enslaved by the hierarchy of attractiveness that you internalized as a kid. Some beauty standards seem to be cross-cultural and are probably somewhat hard-wired. Symmetry is on the top of that list. A certain “hourglass” figure in women (though of wildly differing proportions!). But most of the standards are learned, and thus can be un…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/26 08:38 PM
–	Many women say they prefer "friends first" approach while dread a the moment a guy friend develops feelings Not sure why you feel the need to be insulting. I insulted a philosophy you adhere to, not you. I promise you, the main reason I’ve “succeeded” with women is a bunch of stuff that you would probably throw into a bin labeled “charisma.” That seems to be a red pill catch-all term for “stuff that I don’t understand but I’m completely sure that I wasn’t born with it and it’s not FAIR!”	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/26 10:54 AM
–	Women Can't Be "Used" For Sex If They Consented. That's Feminist Victim Mentality Rhetoric. “The only thing that matters is whether concrete claims were made.” I can’t agree with you on that. That’s just not how most people work. Relationships are a complex tangle of words and postures and signs and facial expressions. Things are communicated in lots of different ways. I mean, yes - explicit statements are better. And some people - especially shy or neurodivergent people - really need to operate in an environment of clearly expressed positions. But lots of people simply don’t. So while…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/26 10:44 AM
–	Many women say they prefer "friends first" approach while dread a the moment a guy friend develops feelings Well, I met my wife when I was 27, so… before that. Probably happened for the first time when I was 18. But there were several times around then when I had feelings for friends that were not returned, too. Life went on. I mean, full disclosure, I had as many female friends as male friends throughout my teens and 20s. Not really sure why. But just doing the math, I guess having a lot of women friends definitely increases the odds that one or two will eventually find you attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/26 10:23 AM
–	Many women say they prefer "friends first" approach while dread a the moment a guy friend develops feelings Average height. Average looks - kinda funny-looking, really. Average musculature - actually below average for much of my single life. But don’t let me interfere with your cult-like belief in the marketplace of raw stats. You clearly need that. I mean, how do you go out to restaurants and malls and see all those non-handsome, non-rich dudes out with their attractive spouses and girlfriends and still believe that nonsense? Sneak into a middle-income neighborhood’s PTA meeting and look around at th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/26 10:08 AM
–	Women Can't Be "Used" For Sex If They Consented. That's Feminist Victim Mentality Rhetoric. Thanks for the thanks! But honestly, this was less than 10% of the time for me. And I wasn’t wishy washy about commitment. I could just sense that there was probably a real desire for commitment that I did not share. And instead of pointing this out, I let it ride. Because, as I said, sex!	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/26 09:43 AM
–	Women Can't Be "Used" For Sex If They Consented. That's Feminist Victim Mentality Rhetoric. You seem to be misunderstanding my post entirely. I’m not taking full responsibility not am I viewing women as a monolith. I’m just saying that looking back, I definitely ignored signs that some of my partners were more into me than I was to them. I have, I think, a pretty high emotional intelligence. And in some cases I let my momentary desires take precedence over what I probably should’ve seen. So what? That doesn’t mean the woman I was with bears no responsibility for her choices - you’re ri…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/26 09:13 AM
–	Many women say they prefer "friends first" approach while dread a the moment a guy friend develops feelings At least half the women I’ve been with were “friends first.” A few of them later outright told me they had no idea they’d end up finding me attractive when we first started hanging out. Attraction often develops over time. As numerous actual studies have shown. I’ve developed feelings for women friends that turned out to be unrequited. I’ve had women friends suddenly hit on me when I wasn’t really into them. It is unpredictable and it can be messy, but I absolutely endorse the “friends first” id…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/26 08:45 AM
–	Women Can't Be "Used" For Sex If They Consented. That's Feminist Victim Mentality Rhetoric. Nope. I had sex with lots of women when I was younger, and I was at least dimly aware that some of them thought we were headed towards a relationship. And I let them believe that because sex. Honestly, nowadays, I regret that. In a very real way, I used them. I didn’t lie. I didn’t make any promises. They consented. But if a couple of them felt used… that’s valid. Consent is a binary, obviously. But feeling used or misled is not. It doesn’t really matter if you’re “pretty fucking exhausted heari…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/26 08:32 AM
2	People who clown on age gap relationships are toxic First, welcome to the internet? Look around, you’ll see a ton of that “16 year-old” noise. Secondly, the idea that when women are biologically “most fertile” is therefore the age when they should have kids and when they are most attractive… is seriously weird thinking. You legit will NEVER come across anyone saying that men are past their prime at 30, even though, biologically speaking, that is when their sperm count starts to decline and their sperm quality begins to decrease.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/26 07:49 AM
9	People who clown on age gap relationships are toxic You chose a fairly uncontroversial age gap as an example, but to your point: Look at, say… oh, I don’t know… …the entire Internet? It is full of older men fetishizing teen girls. Porn featuring teen girls, schoolgirls, cheerleaders. Stupid creeps pontificating that women are at their most fertile and should “breed” and marry at 16. Toxic assholes declaring that women over 25 or 30 are “used up” and “too cynical.” Insane bullshit about how women’s anatomy changes with too many partners or too man…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/26 04:04 PM
7	Many women have been socially programmed to be self-centered and narcissistic. That doesn’t change the point of my argument, obviously. You said “This is actually one of the reasons that some men with sense and self-respect are choosing to walk away from women.” You can say you’re not strictly proposing it. Fine. But you are still identifying walking away from women entirely - on the grounds that women are shallow and narcissistic - as something that men of sense and self-respect are doing. That, as I said, is misogyny.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/26 03:02 PM
13	Many women have been socially programmed to be self-centered and narcissistic. Yeah, you SAY “many,” but then go on to talk bout it in terms that make it clear you in fact mean “most” or “all.” If you didn’t mean “most” or “all” you could not then logically propose “walking away from women” entirely. And yeah, that’s misogyny. Plenty of racists believe that there are “good ones” amongst the races they discriminate against. They even claim to be friends with some of them, But they believe the race itself is too inferior and too flawed to be “worthy” and thus want to separat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/26 02:42 PM
-2	Why doesn't the red pill push for expanded views of attractiveness? This is absolutely true, but it goes against red pill thinking and thus will be ignored. For several reasons, the erroneous idea that their desires are “hard-wired” is a non-negotiable “fact.” Understanding the social conditioning that has shaped their desires and working to modify it would not only be helpful, it ironically would be closer to a true “red pill” experience, at least in the way it is defined in The Matrix. But that, ultimately, isn’t what the red pill is about. I’ve seen some peop…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/26 02:28 PM
–	Men have to build their assets, but women are born with them. Two absolutely wrong things here. 1) Physically attractive men get all the social/romantic advantages that attractive women do. Without having to demonstrate status, wealth, or social skills. If you haven’t seen some dumb, poor dude with a beautiful girlfriend becoming prom king… you haven’t been watching. There’s hard data to back this up. Beautiful people do well and are typically perceived as much smarter and more skillful than they are, regardless of gender. 2) Even women who are considered …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/07/26 07:22 AM
1	Women are emotionally more resilient and self-reliant as single women do not whine, cry, complain, and moan about being lonely nearly as much as single men do. I feel like you completely missed my point! I am NOT “comparing unpaid chores and character building with leisure activities as if they are one and the same.” My post is literally the opposite of that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 06:46 AM
3	Women are emotionally more resilient and self-reliant as single women do not whine, cry, complain, and moan about being lonely nearly as much as single men do. Yeh, this is my perception too. I think it’s that the way we raise boys is completely fucked up. We don’t teach them household skills. We don’t teach them to be self-aware - about their appearance, about their own emotions, about their relationships. Girls learn all these things. Instead, we ask that boys do well in school, if they can, play games and sports, and to “be yourself.” They make friends with each other, yes, but when it comes to understanding the world, most of those friends aren’t h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/26 02:23 AM
2	Men are incompatible with long term partnership Thanks. But “mature?” Hell, I’m OLD! 🤣	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/26 07:53 AM
2	Men are incompatible with long term partnership Lots of things. We’re really compatible, admire each other’s talents, support each other’s goals, are real attracted to each other. Etc. Our friends get along, and we’ve met lifelong friends through each other. But more than that, early on we started building a life together, and it absolutely worked. Even before marriage, even before kids, we developed a vocabulary, a way of seeing things, and about a million inside jokes. Look, I was great on my own - happy, functional. But together, I do thin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/26 07:21 AM
1	Men are incompatible with long term partnership It’s not a gamble if you both know who you are/what you want. My wife and I were raised in different religions and with different upbringings. Didn’t matter. Does it help that we dated and then lived together for years until marriage? Maybe. But by the time we DID marry, it definitely was past “gamble” stage for us.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/26 05:15 AM
1	Men are incompatible with long term partnership It’s just a quote from “The Royal Tenenbaums.” Gene Hackman says it to Anjelica Huston.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/26 05:12 AM
1	The Graham Platner scandal shows decency doesn’t matter in dating Average-looking scumbag manages to date a few average-looking women, whom he cheats on and abuses. #goals? “This begs the question, why stay on the straight and narrow when being a monster will get you better results?” Well, it won’t. But go try it. See how you do and how it feels. Good luck with the killing and the raping and the cheating and the fucking! Report back!	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 08:52 PM
18	Women control the grey area The grey area works for men too. I’m a man who absolutely loves the grey area. When I was single, I lived there. I ruled there as King of Greydonia! The grey area allows you to have fun with women, be friends, get to know them, and if something happens… great. If something doesn’t… also great. Btw, in my experience, the whole “friend zone” thing is a lie. Plenty of women I’ve been friends with ended up becoming attracted to me. Familiarity and proximity does that. It’s Science! If that situation…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 11:01 AM
–	It's weird to date a gender who's general impression of dating your gender is mild disgust. That doesn’t really count as debate. Do I need to make my point clearer, or do you just have no real reply?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 10:05 AM
–	It's weird to date a gender who's general impression of dating your gender is mild disgust. So? Dating is asymmetrical. That’s the reality. To a straight woman who really wants a relationship, dating is like being stranded on a desert island where the only food is a giant pile of coconuts. And for whatever reason, some of those coconuts are rotten inside. If that were you, after your first or second gross, rotten, worm-filled coconut… wouldn’t you approach each new coconut with mild disgust? Of course you would. Would you feel ‘lucky’ and like you ‘had it good’ because you could choose…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 09:23 AM
17	Going back to dating after a 10 years relationship helped me realized the reasons for the gender war - dating skills are the opposite of relationship skills “I’m an admitted liar who women find intimidating and I honestly don’t care about their feelings. Also, I’ve only been dating women for two months out of the last 11 years and have only gone on a few dates. Also, I work out six times a day. Here is my theory…” I’m hoping that English isn’t your first language. Anyway, this is hard to read and seems kinda fake, iamapieceofsh1t2020.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 08:39 AM
–	Social justice for me but not for thee: Common female reactions to the 'hiplet' trend versus to heightshaming men are showing their double standards and inherent view of males as lesser beings - just as the trend intended Congratulations, this is the one millionth post on this sub that says, “Some women do x. Some women do y. I have no idea if these are the same women but GOTCHA!”	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/26 09:52 AM
6	Saying asking for prenup means you dont trust your partner is hypocritical because the entire marriage system is based on lack of trust. A very good answer. And you will note that OP has chosen not to respond to this one. But it’s true. In most countries, marriage is the way that couples can declare themselves members of the same family. The union is instantly applicable to property rights in the event of death, childcare privileges and responsibilities, next-of-kin decisions (which would otherwise go to an individual’s parents), taxes, etc. So OP’s thesis, “the only reason a marriage contract exists is to protect them in the eve…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/26 07:20 AM
12	Men are incompatible with long term partnership Good god. As a formerly promiscuous man who is now decades into a happy, monogamous relationship, it’s a shock to find out that I don’t exist! Oh well. I guess I had a good run. I’ll just vanish in a puff of your unassailable pronouncements, I guess. Byeee!	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/26 09:35 AM
5	Women did not develop compassion/empathy for men in general because it serves no evolutionary purpose Just…no. If you think complicated social traits such as “women’s empathy for men” are passed down through genes… dude, you need to read more about evolution and genetics. Ask yourself. Would women having or not having empathy for men affect their ability to survive and reproduce to an important degree? Is it at ALL like that such a trait could be genetically encoded on that extra X on the 23rd chromosome pair (or present elsewhere but activated by that X) so that it could be passed down to their…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/26 07:32 AM
–	The "Don't Tell Me What to Do" Myth There is no “irony” here. It’s pretty easy to figure out when a woman wants to make choices or when she’s happy to be led. And if you can’t tell, you can always say something like, “Hey, do you want me to just pick the restaurant, or do you want to decide together?” Also, taking TikTok videos as indicative of anything is a mistake. They’re made for clicks, not for honesty and insight.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/26 03:18 AM
1	Unpopular opinion: I think asking for a live-in relationship before marriage is a red flag—for me I disagree, as I think would the three women I lived with before I got married. There were no pregnancies (and very good birth control), so maybe that would’ve changed things. The first time I moved in with my longterm girlfriend, right after college, we had a lot of fun, especially at first. And we learned what it meant to cohabitate, manage a household together, etc. Plus, we ultimately learned that we weren’t completely compatible. We loved each other a lot, and it would’ve been tragic to lea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 11:50 PM
1	The Red Pill's greatest appeal is that it offers immediate individual agency rather than long-term societal change That is an extremely reductive and inoffensive definition of the red pill. But I also think it’s inaccurate that this was “the idea at the beginning” and “that alone is the red pill!” Everybody -men, women, gay,straight - prefer their partners to be attractive and successful. People might have differing ideas of what constitutes “attractive” and “successful,” but it’s a simple and obvious fact. Maybe it’s unfortunate that unlike girls, most boys aren’t raised to think about their appearance on a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 09:32 PM
2	The Red Pill's greatest appeal is that it offers immediate individual agency rather than long-term societal change Nobody objects to the idea of men getting motivated, getting in better shape and improving their lot in life. Nobody. Think of it this way - imagine you encounter a friend you haven’t seen in a while and he looks great, way better than before. And after you compliment him, he says, “Yeah, I joined a club that is helping me get in shape to prepare for the upcoming race war, wherein people with my genetic heritage will slaughter everyone else and rule the world!” I don’t know what you’d think of t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/26 04:30 PM
–	Do women feel entitled to men's bodies? I’m not an amazing mom - I’m a trying-to-be-amazing dad! Just now realizing that my flair (which is a movie quote) might be misleading! I should change that!😅	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 08:53 AM
–	Do women feel entitled to men's bodies? Well, on this sub they want to argue. In the actual world, there are lots of people who understand. I’m currently trying to raise a teen daughter to be simultaneously fearless and cautious! It’s a minefield to say the least. On the plus side, she and her closest friends seem to understand what they’re up against.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 07:30 AM
–	Do women feel entitled to men's bodies? This. I’ve seen women and men intervene in these situations. Everyone should. OP’s take is ridiculous. “women should be trained to identify bad guys and surround themselves with good guys?!” How the fuck could anyone do that in a club setting? That’s daft. OP, go out, identify “good guys,” and “surround yourself” with them. Then report back to us? 😂 Or at least define what this “training program” should look like.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 02:59 AM
1	You can't LOGIC your way into a women's heart. For men here - autistic analysis of every single detail is one of the reason for failure in dating. You don’t sound like a troll to me. The main thing is what a lot of people around here call “confidence.” But that’s not really the right word for it imo. What draws people in is when you can be your genuine self, when you can be passionate about the things you love and sure enough of who you are that you can focus on those things and on other people without worrying about being judged. The really successful guys do not think about socializing with women as a performance. To those people, social…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 08:54 PM
1	You can't LOGIC your way into a women's heart. For men here - autistic analysis of every single detail is one of the reason for failure in dating. Gotcha. Just trying to help. Maybe my explanation wasn’t great!	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 08:23 PM
6	As a man who struggled to orgasm with partners, I really think the discourse around orgasm gap is unfair. “Always to blame?” Every single one of your examples is wrong. Women on THIS thread say that they have problems orgasming that aren’t mens’ fault. So… “always” blaming men? Women who have sexual function problems like vaginismus often seek medical help/advice. They don’t “always” blame men when they are too tight. You would only need to drop in on a women’s health subreddit for like 30 seconds to see ample evidence of this. And the “his penis was too small” thing is pure imagination. Unless you …	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/26 02:18 PM
1	You can't LOGIC your way into a women's heart. For men here - autistic analysis of every single detail is one of the reason for failure in dating. I’m guessing you’re asking about music? Well, with blues (or jazz, or funk, or, to an extent, rock), the main thing is finding a decent groove with your bandmates, staying connected, and constantly listening so that you can do cool things together. Making room (quieting down) for the vocalist, echoing their riffs, slowly building momentum with your bassist and drummer. A good band sounds a little different every night. As for “structure,” that’s pretty straightforward: Knowing the chord progress…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/26 02:44 PM
–	The root of misogyny is jealousy. This is not the experience of most of my black friends, but I gotta thank you for sharing it. I’m sure you know a lot of people who DO find that word hurtful, though. Gonna stick by my appraisal of “foid,” though. I’ve been around the internet!	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 01:44 AM
–	Wives who don’t have regular sex with their husbands should never have married him I mean, anyone man who conceptualizes it and phrases it the way you do is headed for a divorce. IF you’re ever lucky enough to get married in the first place. Not that you’re entirely wrong, but you’re not approaching it the right way. You’re approaching it a gross, reductive, and teenager way. If you just want a “warm hole,” you’re not going to have a good marriage or become a happy human. It took me time, through many girlfriends and a long marriage that is still, thank Thor, happy. But in tim…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/26 01:40 AM
3	The root of misogyny is jealousy. “A portmanteau =/= an etymology.” Wow! I mean, that’s a super clumsy deflection attempt. Why even bother? Obviously, portmanteau is one way that words get created, and etymology is the study of how words got created. If you are trying to say something with this poorly-drawn distinction, it’s not clear. “And the absence of flattery also =/= hate.” No way are your reading comprehension skills THAT bad, right? Obviously, me saying that I’ve never seen “foid” used in a flattering or humanizing way w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 06:31 PM
3	The root of misogyny is jealousy. What a silly line of argument. It’s like saying the n-word isn’t hateful because of its etymology, which is merely a contraction of a word derived from the Spanish word for “black” combined with the Greek suffix for “resembling.” I mean, why would you even TRY to make that dumbass argument? Everyone here knows what foid means, and none of us have ever seen it used in a flattering, humanizing way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 09:18 AM
1	You can't LOGIC your way into a women's heart. For men here - autistic analysis of every single detail is one of the reason for failure in dating. I don’t totally disagree with you. It’s not bad to want to understand things logically. It is bad to misunderstand things and fail to see your errors. Approaching dating as a definable set of moves to make and attributes to enhance is a recipe for failure. It’s like trying to play blues guitar by learning to play sheet music transcriptions of the greats. In both cases, people will never want to play with you. Because you don’t get it. And before you reject that analogy, understand - I’m not just…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 08:57 AM
1	You can't LOGIC your way into a women's heart. For men here - autistic analysis of every single detail is one of the reason for failure in dating. You’re trying to separate out the “average looking, short, poor guitarist with the cool sense of humor” as having “unique qualities.” Because he defies your generalizations. You NEED him to be an outlier, or else you would have to rethink your analysis of which traits are key to dating success. Here’s what I’m saying: the short guitarist isn’t an outlier. He has some of the exact same woman-attracting qualities as the tall, athletic “chads” y’all constantly complain about. Tiny guitar guy and gi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 08:43 AM
6	Women detest men who “just want to have sex” yet live exactly like that from age 18 to 32 or so. “My point is women chastise and complain about men “just wanting sex” while getting fucked every Friday with a new man thruout their entire 20s.” This is such an absolute garbage point. I mean, I’m not insulting you, just the absolute garbage point! I’ve known a few promiscuous women. Never once heard one of ‘em complain about men “just wanting sex.” I mean, they openly just wanted sex, bless ‘em! And I’ve known many women who complained about men just wanting sex. And none of them got “fucked e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 08:27 AM
4	You can't LOGIC your way into a women's heart. For men here - autistic analysis of every single detail is one of the reason for failure in dating. Yeah, but if you identify the wrong A,B, and C, like so many people here do, you’re not going to get too far. It’s like someone noticing that that the best basketball players have nice sneakers, drive sportscars, and have very toned calf muscles. And then they show up to an NBA tryout in a Maserati, sporting toned legs and cool Nikes… and wonder why they get laughed off the court. Fact is, you never understood the game. With all the As, Bs, and Cs to choose from, you chose the most obvious-level…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 04:25 PM
13	You can't LOGIC your way into a women's heart. For men here - autistic analysis of every single detail is one of the reason for failure in dating. Yes. Exactly this. For a man who struggles to date, there’s a choice between 1) the messy and hard-to-quantify real world of human interaction, and 2) a made-up set of rigid rules and restrictions that reduces love and attraction to something they can put on a spreadsheet that “explains” their failure. The big punchline is that they have the weird and somewhat sad gall to refer to that bogus framework as “the red pill.” As though they’ve been privileged to see the world as it really is, when in …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/26 08:29 AM
1	There's No Shame in a Man Wanting a Bangmaid Okay, ignore this if you want, but you totally fail to comprehend basic English. I wasn’t referring to your hypothetical. I don’t give a shit about it. It wasn’t what I was talking about. I was talking about the “online discussion you were having.” Remember? You opened your post by talking about it. I was referring the person who responded to you, and what YOU might have said that made her react like that and say you only wanted a bangmaid. My point was that you didn’t share exactly what you sai…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/26 08:39 AM
–	Gender relationship are harmed by blank slatism This is complete and utter bs. Source: I’ve been married for a long time. Yes, there was a diamond ring and a getting-on-one-knee involved. The sex is still frequent and great. No attraction has been lost on either side. We had great sex a couple of days ago, and I (gently) turned down an offer today because I hauled some heavy stuff yesterday and my back hurts. We’ll have a good time tomorrow night, I’m sure. You wanna say I’m an outlier? You’d be wrong. You just want your “dark truth” to be tr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/26 08:57 AM
2	There's No Shame in a Man Wanting a Bangmaid “What’s the evidence?” Dude, that’s my point! We don’t get to see the evidence, but your opponent was basing her accusation on what you said in the “online argument” you are referring to. Instead we get your abbreviated description of the argument. Which is inadequate for anyone trying to determine whether you were right or she was right. This has nothing to do with me “changing the hypothetical.” You came here and claimed you had an actual online argument, and you got accused of “just wanting a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/26 08:42 AM
3	There's No Shame in a Man Wanting a Bangmaid You keep saying “filthy liar.” I assume you want to be logical here, so please take this in. And if English isn’t your first language, I apologize. It’s possible that your understanding of the language is a bit of a barrier here. No. She’s not a filthy liar. For one, “filthy” is an insult, obviously. No need to bring a pejorative into this, even if she hurt your feelings, For two, “liar” is completely inaccurate in this case. A liar is someone who knowingly tells an untruth. This person is clear…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/26 05:09 PM
2	Do people have the right to prefer and seek out traditional gender dynamics, in your view? 💯The problem is the expectation (and teaching that expectation!), not the freely chosen relationships that OP is asking about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/26 08:14 AM
6	Do people have the right to prefer and seek out traditional gender dynamics, in your view? Freely chosen traditional relationships are fine with feminists. But “freely chosen” isn’t as simple a concept as many people think. One of the first projects of early feminism was to help women (and men) see that the traditional dynamics between men and women were often a pretty raw deal for women. Women were raised and conditioned to believe that their expected role was right and proper and best, even if it meant giving up ambitions, abandoning careers, losing friendships, and even occasionall…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/26 11:14 AM
12	Would you truly enjoy and appreciate arelationship that goes against gender norms of men providing and protecting? Sorry, by the standards of this sub and their unwavering belief in “hypergamy,” you do not exist. Nor does my wife and several of my exes. Women are all the same, and they do not date or marry men of “lesser” value. Therefore, you are a bot. Good luck in your future adventures in botville!	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/26 07:46 AM
2	Men dating down Imagine a subreddit for people who’d been sold “magic beans” by some scam artist. To make them grow, they’re told, all you need is soil, water, and a pure heart. Then imagine a typical thread in r/magicbeans, where these gullible morons hotly debate what actually constitutes a pure heart. They all have strong opinions - about pure hearts, yes, but also best fertilizers, optimal watering techniques, etc - even though not a single one of them has been able to make their magic beans grow. You could…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/26 02:30 PM
3	A lot of men are constantly contradicting themselves when they shame a woman for doing OF or being a porn star OP, you’ve posted this sub’s kryptonite. Well done. The replies from men here reveal the essential nature of RP idiocy. Terminally online, constantly whacking it to porn, constantly lecturing about how “real women” should behave. If they took a second to look at themselves, what it means to find women doing porn attractive and also want women who might notionally be with them to behave differently… they might see how incredibly messed up the world has made them. But they won’t. That’s the hard w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/26 06:25 AM
-1	A guy can be attractive to women regardless of whether he’s actually a good person. “The common idea that “if you weren’t such a misogynistic jerk, you’d have a girlfriend” doesn’t always match reality.” Yeah, it usually does. The idea that there are bad people who DO have girlfriends is unrelated. It’s just a simple logical flaw in your premise. If you’re alone and you’re told that your main problem is that you’re a misogynistic jerk… that’s probably what your problem is. 😂 Pointing out that there are other misogynistic jerks who have girlfriends isn’t going to change things. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 03:44 PM
4	Women’s Selectivity Is a Major Cause of the Orgasm Gap in Casual Sex This is a really good reply. But I want to focus on one thing you said. “The way sex is often framed to men can absolutely influence how some men approach it.” Yes! I mean, it’s somewhat of a victim’s mentality, but let’s examine it. My feeling is that a lot of men replace the bad framing with a worse framing. Commonly known as “red pill.” RP is the frame that will turn a befuddled man into a sociopath who reduces women to an insulting stereotype. And reduces men to a set of “commodities” that c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/06/26 04:52 AM
2	It's always considered men responsibility to make women feel safe around them. Kinda funny that some of the comments in this thread are pretty convincing evidence that women DO need to be cautious. And that fact means that decent men can and should invest the minimal time and thought it takes into becoming someone who does not come across as a threat or a creep. It’s not rocket science. It’s not even HARD. Unless you want to resist the idea that women are rational to feel the way they do. Unless you want to call them “entitled” or “selfish” instead of considering that they…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/06/26 04:35 AM
3	Women’s Selectivity Is a Major Cause of the Orgasm Gap in Casual Sex Abundance does not cause selfishness. I guess some men do begin to take the fact that they always have opportunity for granted. But a guy who cares about their partners isn’t going to suddenly stop caring. Once you understand what genuinely makes sex great, you would never give it up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/06/26 04:09 AM
9	Women’s Selectivity Is a Major Cause of the Orgasm Gap in Casual Sex Ironically, a lot of the misconceptions in your post do a pretty good job of explaining why there’s an orgasm gap! -Someone who is cool with having sex without thinking of their partner’s pleasure is selfish or misogynist or utterly clueless. No amount of “abundance” is going to change that. Or cause that. - There aren’t that many “skills” that need to be “developed!” In fact, men thinking that there ARE skills, and that they have them, is probably one of the bigger drivers of bad sex for women.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/26 05:00 PM
18	Hypergamy is serious topic that woke and bluepilled people uncomfortable and they are unwilling to take seriously, analyze, and discuss the issue. Your “observations” aren’t reality. The world is full of more successful women than ever before. Yes. But many of them will still date any man they click with. Regardless of wealth or status. Disbelieve it if you want. But it’s the truth, I’ve dated many women who out-earned me. And I’m not beautiful. I’m married now, but the idea that “there isn’t any explanation other than the red pill one” is such amazingly obvious BS that I almost don’t know where to start. BUT - if I were suddenly single - …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/26 09:11 AM
11	If feminism and patriarchy didn’t exist, but you had to choose between marrying the love of your life and being a homebody all day and having no friends, or being a career women yet never meeting the love of your life or getting in any serious relationship, which would you choose? This makes no sense. Do you want to explain your agenda or not?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/26 07:54 AM
1	Discernment needs to be reworked. 💯	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/26 07:43 PM
6	Discernment needs to be reworked. So true. Honestly, a lot of guys in this space need to come to terms with their neurodivergence (like you say, no shade on that), and realize that most people do not behave according to rules and predictable stimulus/response. Once they realize this, they might also see that their deep desire to live in a world where people DO behave so predictably is what makes them easy targets for a lot of RP/manosphere bullshit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/26 05:22 PM
2	My Perspective on the Sexualization of Women in Media Beauty standards are rough for women, yes. But that’s not exactly the same as sexualization. The cultures where women are forced to dress modestly are a great example - sexualization hasn’t gone away. It’s WORSE. Women are so sexualized, their worth is so linked to their appearance and sexuality, that their bodies are considered too hot to be seen in public! Not exactly an improvement.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/26 06:57 PM
–	Why did I start getting more women by implementing toxic, narcissistic and manipulative behaviors? It’s just some made-up shit by some Wendell. In this case, RP stands for “roleplaying.” 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/26 10:38 AM
–	If a woman hesitates on a dna test then you HAVE to assume she cheated. This is a terrible take. A good relationship is built on trust. If you ask a good, honest woman who loves you to get a DNA test, you are explicitly stating that you do not trust her. Not only will she hesitate, if she has any sense, she will leave you. That’s not (just) about feelings. A lot of rational people would decide not to spend their lives and raise a child in a house with someone who does not trust them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/26 03:34 AM
1	Women are so attracted to confidence because they're looking for someone to compensate for their own lack of confidence. When you point this out, women will change the meaning of confidence to, "Someone who's not insecure, something we should all want!" No. Because confident women are ALSO attracted to confidence. And truly confident men - not the ones who’ve just learned how act like they are - usually want confident women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 10:03 AM
–	Women don't really view men as human beings in romantic contexts “That's why women will toss men to the side and not feel any particular way about it. It's all transactional. All the while the woman will continue to fantasize about fictional men that she'll never encounter in real life. Disclaimer: This post is of descriptive nature. It's not supposed to put blame on a certain group or sex.” Did you really write all these sentences consecutively and think, “Yeah, that seems okay.”	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/26 07:19 AM
0	TRP was Never Going to Work for Most Men. An Ideology based on Potential Most Men Never had TRP doesn’t work because it’s based on a completely twisted framework for understanding women and relationships. It doesn’t just fail to help most men. It makes them less attractive and less likely to succeed. It preys upon men’s desire to understand the world through calculation, data, and categorization, and frequently turns them into the kind of creeps that actively repel women. If you’re that sort of numbers-oriented dude who is susceptible to TRP, maybe look at it this way: Less than a thir…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/26 04:21 PM
2	Feminine men or non-traditional men are hated due to misandry, not misogyny. Nah, it’s just homophobia.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/26 08:14 AM
–	Feminism would lessen in popularity if men could prove that they like women for anything other than sex No, guy with the “Feminism is terrorism” flair. I don’t. Please explain how stupid I sound!	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 07:17 AM
5	Feminism would lessen in popularity if men could prove that they like women for anything other than sex Yes. That was my point. I’m a unicorn. No other man in history has ever discovered my secret to appreciating women. Sorry, suckers!	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 06:26 AM
6	Feminism would lessen in popularity if men could prove that they like women for anything other than sex Yes, I was entirely ignorant of the fact that becoming more attractive changed my dating prospects. Thanks for the enlightenment! My point was obvious, I thought. Oh well!	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 06:16 AM
3	There are much more closeted lesbians and bi women than gay men Not sure what you saw or your dad saw or if he’s a good observer. But from the moment a girl is born people talk about how pretty she is and put her in pretty clothes and all the story books stress stuff about girls’ looks and there are very few cues about what makes a boy “handsome.” It’s literally fucking everywhere. Every aunt comes over with “pretty clothes.” Every cartoon has a male character going NUTS over a beautiful female character. And rarely vice versa. It’s. Everywhere. We were trai…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 04:09 AM
3	There are much more closeted lesbians and bi women than gay men It’s literally everywhere. Though admittedly easier to see when you become a parent and actually pay attention to what’s going into your kids’ heads on a daily basis. Then it’s obvious.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 03:47 AM
3	There are much more closeted lesbians and bi women than gay men So you don’t know how to spot a good-looking woman?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 03:34 AM
26	Feminism would lessen in popularity if men could prove that they like women for anything other than sex Accurate. I got lucky. I was a fun, chubby kid in high school, and I ended up with a ton of friends who were girls. Spent literally hours every night on the phone with ‘em. Was I secretly attracted to them? 1000%! They were beautiful. I mean, come on - they were active, smart teen girls! But I considered myself Hopeless as a potential boyfriend, so I just leaned into enjoying my time with all my friends, male and female. So when I finally got taller and lost weight and was blindsided by the fact…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 02:56 AM
5	There are much more closeted lesbians and bi women than gay men Good god, this stupid, shallow take. Listen: all of us - ALL of us - are trained from infancy to know what a pretty woman looks like, and also to talk about it. It’s a global Thing. There have been a couple of books written about it. Hundreds, actually. Meanwhile, nobody is really conditioned to spot attractive men - in fact, in most places, boys are ridiculed for expressing even the suspicion that another guy is handsome. So no, all those women who talk about attractive women aren’t secretly ga…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/26 02:17 AM
-1	Bad men should be unselected. This Responsibility Falls Mostly on Women. The Freedom of Sexual Selectors and Responsibility. Your post takes itself apart before it even really begins: The men women complain about most are almost never unselected men. Yes, obviously, women complain about bad men whom they’ve dated. They don’t complain so much about the abusive behavior of men they haven’t “selected” because they haven’t dated them. I don’t think there’s any real point here other than “How about giving us unselected men a try, dummy! Then you might not get abused!” That’s a pretty low bar.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/05/26 08:19 PM
10	Every western "misandrist" can only safely be one thanks to the infrastructural support of a vast network of men. You ignored my point. Given your argument, we’d expect girls at an all-girls school would fight as much as boys. But they don’t. Also, maybe you’d agree that when it comes to physical strength, guns have kind of leveled the playing field, right? So why are nearly 90% of gun homicides committed by men? And then you go to “history shows… regardless of gender…” But you don’t give any examples of women-dominated societies where the women are more violent. Because… maybe history doesn’t have examples…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/26 09:12 AM
21	Every western "misandrist" can only safely be one thanks to the infrastructural support of a vast network of men. “The male statistical majority in violent crime exists for the same biological reasons that men hold virtually 100% of physical sports records: a higher baseline capacity for explosive force. If the biological power balance were inverted and women became the stronger sex, the structural struggle against domination would remain identical; they would have to defend their peaceful societies from other factions of aggressive women.” This is entirely false. Go to a girls school and ask how common phy…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/26 07:51 AM
2	There is no such thing as a men having a skill issue. You make your points well, but I disagree with all of them. 😁 - I’m not redefining skill. I’m redirecting towards the skills that make someone a “well-adjusted, liked person overall.” Those are, for the most part, learnable skills: Listening, empathy, enthusiasm, positivity, humor… these things come more naturally to some people, but they are all learnable skills. - I’m not leaning on my personal social circle only. I’m talking about friends, yes, but I’m also thinking about dozens of colleagues…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/05/26 10:50 PM
5	There is no such thing as a men having a skill issue. As usual on this sub, the problem here is how OP is framing the issue. It’s like saying, “This is bull - it doesn’t matter how hard I work on free throws, dribbling, crossovers, and slam dunks, I’m not getting any better at tennis! I guess some guys are just naturally better!” You’re playing the wrong game. If you are trying to improve your dating skills, you are playing the wrong game. “How do I improve my dating game?” is the wrong question. The better frame is “How do I create a rewarding soc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/05/26 07:40 PM
7	Many women want a man who is "generous" without being generous themselves. True. But I did not say “women are providing value at a higher rate than men” (although I admit the way I phrased it, you could definitely get that impression!). I was illustrating that OP’s premise isn’t supported by facts. Also, I’m pretty sure that 93.7% you cite is relative to households where the father is present. Which is a subset of fathers - about a quarter of American children live in households where no father is present. Look, OPs entire miserable premise, that women have kids for no…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 03:10 PM
69	Many women want a man who is "generous" without being generous themselves. Almost 75% of mothers with kids under 18 in the USA are in the workforce. 75%. That is literally higher than the percentage of ALL men over 18 in the workforce. Think about that. Your premise is obliterated by actual facts. If you have resentments about dating customs… fine. Don’t pay for women. But they are having kids AND working and thus “providing value” at a rate higher than men are. So…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/26 07:55 AM