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8

Ive got nothing meaningful to say, I just fucking hate this guy and all quirky fake-positive content like this
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/02/25 06:40 AM
45

All they had to do was not be raging sexists lmao
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/02/25 01:15 PM
10

Look at how they act when they get what they want: They want more! the polar opposite of equality More women graduate college now, men are dropping out at higher rates. Do they care? no. so at the end of the day it was never a neutral balancing act dynamic to reality or an honest attempt to solve injustice
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/02/25 06:05 AM
30

It’s never fair to shaft people due to their immutable characteristics. There is no “positive” discrimination without negative for someone else.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/25 04:13 PM
105

As it turns out, choosing the bear was not a good strategy
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 10:20 AM
6

A woman who doesn't believe that men can be victims of abuse? gee I wonder what the obvious implications of that are for how she treats her male partners. I better get my opinions from a YouTuber.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/24 05:30 PM
5

Can't stand FD Chudifier
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/10/24 02:32 AM
6

Jubilee always picks the most annoying people
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/10/24 05:20 AM
16

And the idea that men don't experience any emotional gratification from sex and it's entirely divorced from love is definitely dehumanizing. Humans who have higher libidos on average doesn't mean they're zombies looking to use you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/10/24 03:28 AM
4

Yep, being feared is the polar opposite in fact since it impacts empathy, the justice system, federal funding, police response, etc. etc.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/09/24 04:11 PM
6

Autistic men especially
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/24 12:44 AM
4

The cognitive and physical burden of yard work, repairs, and maintenance harms men's overall health is what I think Don't let anyone get away with leaving out the other half of the housework from their narrative.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/09/24 01:58 PM
20

I don’t know but we better gaslight them into thinking it doesn’t matter and it makes them bad people if they think it plays any role in their lives. /s
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/24 09:28 PM
4

Nothing replaces a core need that's not being met, it's not some lack of discipline on men's part or something that can be covered up and erased by other things.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/24 12:03 PM
4

It's also a seriously faulty comparison, women can still get mountains of validation from men without initiating, being a relationship or hooking up, this "independence" comes with male attention on demand and the peace of mind that they will still have suitors after having a decade long hoe phase or just long breaks from dating. It's like someone who's camping in an RV looking down on Naked & Afraid contestants. "It's not that hard I survived 21 days so can you, stop being a codependent baby"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/24 11:45 AM
42

Tout More like a taunt, I hate how go to therapy has been turned into a club to beat men with as if it's magic
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/24 07:24 AM
57

Genius comment from start to finish, I feel like there's a huge taboo around men even bringing up external factors because it's seen in a very black and white manner as making excuses to hide some secret malicious character flaws and like you said "not doing the work"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/06/24 07:20 AM
21

You're considered one of the good ones only bc they know you, imagine how they would treat you/talk about you if you were just a random man. Probably lumped into the "men are trash" category by association.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/06/24 06:38 PM
5

In addition to what other people have said many definitions of rape also make it legally impossible for women to be counted as rapists because they don't have male genitalia hence "the whole 99% of rapists are men" crap. Men are also several times less likely to report SA and DV because of systemic and social bias favoring women and discriminating against male victims.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/24 04:46 AM
29

There's no sense in talking to people that won't care, listen and end up using what you told them in an argument. It's almost like unhealthy coping mechanisms develop from unhealthy treatment.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/06/24 04:44 PM
32

All while mocking men's feelings towards their misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/06/24 05:38 PM
7

Got anything on DV related suicides?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/05/24 07:30 AM
3

There’s many different sides of the “red pill” and some are a bit toxic but it’s really dumb to just shut down thought because it’s perceived as coming from the wrong “tribe” It’s ironic because the red pill is a response to the social conservatism of women and hypergamy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/24 03:25 PM
-1

Are those feminists in the room with us now?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/24 03:17 PM
6

Mops and brooms are also needed, but they aren't loved, appreciated or thought about. When they break down they are replaced, no one worries because there are so many out there to pick up the slack. I don't agree with what the person above said either but telling men they are a useful tool is not exactly motivating.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/24 05:58 PM
2

Womp womp If you let idiots gaslight you into turning against your spouse you're too mentally weak and they deserve better. They should not have to compete with all the other toxic crap she reads online and chooses to believe.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/24 04:05 AM
60

They make it out to be an oppressive gender role that they are rejecting when really it's just being a decent human being and partner.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/24 01:42 AM
21

Toxicity should not be gendered to begin with
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/05/24 01:39 AM
16

Seen the man vs bear dialogue recently? lots of very irresponsible rhetoric that people think is totally fine. Who in their right mind would side with people who have zero empathy for them or open up to people who dismiss their feelings.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/24 12:15 AM
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Just got banned from that sub for being “reactionary” but saying the average man is worse than a wild bear is totally fine and non-reactionary to them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/24 07:12 PM
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Perceiving a whole demographic as worse than wild predators is not just "hurt feelings" it's literally the reason men receive 60% longer prison sentences for the same crime and are more likely to be incarcerated when convicted, are more likely to be perceived as a abusers even when they are the victims of domestic violence, get turned away from DV shelters, etc. It's deeply irresponsible to mainstream dehumanization and profiling based on sex. You should be ashamed of yourself. As for "actual is…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/24 04:13 AM
1

They didn't elaborate on what the pros are so yeah I was curious to know what they meant. Of course I would disagree if I disagreed with what they had to say, same as I do with cis men and woman on the perceived pros of being a man all the time. If you don't want to have a back and forth and just want to say what you think the pros are that's fine.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/24 05:42 AM
2

No
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/24 05:23 AM
2

Legitimately can't think of any pros, being a man didn't give me anything besides s*****al thoughts and made a ton of things uniquely worse
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/24 05:20 AM
4

What pros?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/24 11:31 AM
7

Or when they openly say that trans-misandry is real but misandry towards cis men doesn't exist or doesn't matter.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/24 11:27 AM
12

they make the I hate men statement to test our misogyny levels For real??
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/24 09:34 PM
3

Very good points, generalizations can be useful sometimes but it's honestly insane how irresponsible they are with them. They're fine with treating men and women as monoliths as long as fits their narrative.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/24 01:44 PM
9

Don't forget: "well we would talk about men's issues if they weren't brought up by misogynistic tatemaxxing chuds" Also them: wow you brought up men's issues (without exclusively blaming men) you're giving me misogynist vibes! They're not in good faith.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/24 04:55 AM
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Of all the made up problems I’d say “females” takes the cake lol. Call us men males, it’s accurate and we literally don’t care.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/24 01:57 AM
2

Was going to try bumble, that's a shame.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/24 10:50 PM
25

While it is funny that they've come somewhat full circle and can be compared to Puritans it comes from them demonizing straight men's sexuality, they view straight men's attraction to women as something inherently dirty, shameful, predatory and dehumanizing(the later is pretty ironic) by extension anything made to appeal to men is also evil. Nowhere is this more evident than in the Male gaze concept.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/24 04:48 AM
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Notice how all 3 of these primitive cultists think it's okay to hate straight men, the "enemy"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/04/24 01:24 AM
9

Just look at the top comment, my god it’s depressing how popular ignorance is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/24 03:18 AM
20

Pretty much lol "it's hard being an autistic woman no one understands us" and one sentence later talk about autistic men as if they're all monkeys eating crayons and touching people inappropriately.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/24 12:28 AM
5

Yeah It’s a waste of time to get into any lengthy argument with a bigot 99% of the time, making normal, rational people aware of the social and sometimes institutional problems men face as well as their blind spots is much more productive.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/24 10:30 PM
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At a certain point I think we need to acknowledge that maybe beauty standards and expectations for men have become unrealistic if so many normal men are outright failing. Who is rejecting them? It's true that no one is entitled to a relationship but at the same time women are part of the equation? when massive amounts of qualified jobseekers can't find a job maaaaaybe the hiring process is flawed and employers complaining they supposedly can't find any quality candidates need to change, that mig…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/24 07:02 PM
13

Glad you mentioned body image issues, one thing that I don't think is talked about enough is that we care very much about what messages young women are fed and how it impacts their self esteem but the messages young men are fed is treated as inconsequential, when they come online and see nothing but wall to wall misandry and hatred for men that come forward about their loneliness. It's suffocating, I feel scared to even bring it up to a therapist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/24 06:53 PM
2

Some of the memes are ignorant and worth criticizing but the comments usually become a misandry circle jerk on that sub
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/24 05:32 AM
25

Which is why we gotta keep shining that dentist light in their eyes
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/03/24 05:52 PM
5

What things did you bring up?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/03/24 09:17 PM
3

They're not going to like this one lol
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/24 11:15 PM
10

Based on what I could find, it still exists and has shaped most DV programs and policies in America. I also found a good blog post that goes into some detail about how widespread and biased the material is. https://annsilvers.com/blogs/news/the-gender-biased-duluth-model-for-dv-treatment
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/24 05:09 PM
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But by definition, the word includes men who aren't terminally online, have hobbies, go to the gym, or dont even know what the term means. There's a metric ton of messaging against cold approaching and going to places for the purpose of meeting women. (This might be a good thing in the long run if it leads to women approaching men and making things more equal) I understand what you mean but there's no evidence to suggest that calling it InSing(involuntarily single) or something would be anymore …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/24 06:27 PM
5

might have a detrimental effect on(especially vulnerable) men's mental health Wish I could sticky this to the sub, it needs to be said more. Seeing wall to wall misandry on/offline and being treated as evil due to stereotypes really makes me want to give up sometimes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/03/24 04:07 PM
13

To put it lightly, this is out of touch
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/24 09:48 PM
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I have resentment for anyone who trivializes the issue of loneliness and mental health, that happens to be a lot of women unfortunately. Men experience loneliness very differently from women due to how society is structured and with it comes a sense of existential dread that is almost unique to them. This should be used as an opportunity for empathy and understanding but all too often men expressing this vulnerability is used to mock them and downplay their needs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/03/24 06:18 PM
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Their lives are being valued as expendable compared to women though, it's the same as logic as "women and children first" when the boat is sinking. No matter what the pretense is forcing someone to die for the greater good based on their gender is sexism and consider the social consequences for a society that has these norms(i.e. draft dodgers being shamed for not being "real men")
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/03/24 02:54 PM
2

Show this video to feminists whenever they lie and say that it's only other men who don't take male victims seriously. Brilliant awareness video by the mankind initiative. https://x.com/SuffolkPolice/status/1764607228206571861?s=20
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/03/24 03:58 AM
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Nah the draft is treated as a joke to them even though it's literal gender based slavery in case of emergencies
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/03/24 03:16 AM
32

Yep, look at the disgraceful response to the recent Samaritans ad on twitter. It was a beautiful ad but the mere fact that it showed a woman being nice to a man and reaching out to him was met with accusations of "this will endanger women", they literally believe that the average man is Ted Bundy, like how do you even fix that level of demonization and mass hysteria? they're doing far more damage than good.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/03/24 08:44 PM
11

Same people that say "silence is violence"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/24 07:12 PM
18

"Psychopaths are generally considered to lack empathy and guilt, exhibit antisocial behaviour, lie frequently and be ruthless, narcissistic and manipulative." Thats like 40% of reddit lmao
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/02/24 07:14 AM
9

"Happy wife, happy life"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/24 10:24 PM
20

I’m not sure, I think all the male gaze panic kinda is heterophobia. Lots of fear mongering and hate about straight men’s sexuality but it’s mostly in one direction so maybe misandry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/24 06:22 PM
16

My brother in Christ, men's issues aren't given Left wing insurance. The bootstraps talk is given to men by both sides.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/24 10:27 PM
13

What often goes untalked about is how we don't recognize that men's mental health has limits. Telling a man who's been rejected dozens of times and has not had any positive feedback "yikes! what women definitely don't find attractive is your sadness, go out there and do it all over again champ!" It's definitely possible that they have some flaws that have lead to their lack of success but when everything is so one sided and there’s record loneliness, singleness and virginity maaaaaybe the standa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/24 10:25 PM
4

I don't really get what you're trying to say, I'm curious to know how "teaching men who don't have enough of this stuff to be more self-confident and assertive/aggressive" counts as reforming masculinity(men must man up isn't exactly new)(have self confidence is akin to telling depressed people to try being happy) or how it really addresses the arguments being made (there are anti-social norms and if you're ugly your confidence can easily land you in the creep category)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/24 10:11 PM
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No one wants to admit that lmao, in addition there's just as many women guilty of bland personality but they have none of the social burden of performance on them so they judge their equals harshly. Men aren't the only ones that can develop unrealistic expectations of the opposite gender.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/24 05:57 PM
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Why is everyone just ignoring the involuntary part of the term? that by definition, means there are men who aren't misogynistic or part of some niche internet group but simply struggled to bond with anyone.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/24 07:31 AM
4

Some is a bit of an understatement
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/02/24 03:50 AM
5

I checked on that sub today and one of the first things I see is people defending gender profiling (go-bags), certified trash fire
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/02/24 10:32 PM
1

Do you have a link to that stat? Didn't know they're finally measuring that stuff
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/24 07:03 PM
5

True but don't even engage that far with that goofy argument of theirs, just say "the vast majority of men aren't murderous psychopaths and you need therapy if you think that's the average man's reaction to rejection" Of course men are less scared of being murdered by the women they're approaching than being humiliated and rejected, because the later is infinitely more likely to happen.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/24 07:01 PM
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One thing that pretty much confirms that feminists have supremacist beliefs is the fact that they will categorize the ways in which men are toxic in society through toxic masculinity but won't do the same for toxic femininity, because apparently that's an impossibility or just happens so rarely its not worth labelling. Gendering toxicity is questionable enough but only doing it to one gender is even worse. Edit: here's a fun experiment: iinstead of spending all day discussing the merits of toxic…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/24 03:51 PM
10

Maybe you misread, I don't believe in patriarchy theory
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/24 03:17 AM
36

"innocent until proven guilty only applies to the legal system why should we have to abide by it" Almost zero intelligent life forms in that thread holy shit, it's like talking to Oblivion characters. They took away the wrong lesson from to kill a mocking bird.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/24 12:54 AM
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The response I've gotten almost verbatim for why there's still traditionalism for men is that it's the patriarchy's fault, it's a "system that other men set up so don't blame women, blame men" Not sure how other straight men control straight men's dating prospects more than the straight women that expect said men to pay for their dates and use that as a litmus test for whether they're a "real man" or not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/24 09:56 PM
4

According to William Costello's research only 10% are misogynistic
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/24 06:47 PM
4

Lowkey one of the worst talking points is that "they just happen to choose more lethal methods" as if that's by accident or something... no introspection at all.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/02/24 06:45 PM
5

For the love of god delete the app
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/02/24 02:57 PM
24

At a certain point all the “just get social skills loser” talk becomes ableism with extra steps.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/24 07:25 PM
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This and conditional love, they’ll say that women aren’t loved unconditionally by society and then bring up some extreme example. Like yeah if a woman goes to the bathroom in the fridge drawer or something obviously men would break up with them and people would call them gross lol but that’s not the same as men being treated terribly and valued based on whether they can bring home the bacon.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/24 07:21 PM
2

Care to elaborate on why you think it’s one of the least important things we can talk about on this sub?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/24 05:22 PM
26

Any transaction where one party is desperate, dependent and/or mentally ill and the other party entices them to keep making transactions, should be looked at with a lot of skepticism. The depressed lonely man who’s desperate for a simulation of intimacy being flirted with and kept as a customer is just as exploited as a prostitute desperate to make rent and has an old man throwing extra money at them. Everyone is pressured by their needs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/02/24 12:29 AM
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Great now they can be made into customers IRL and exploited by offline prostitutes promising the GFE instead of just the online ones
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/24 10:25 PM
10

Gotta love how men with innocent flaws get told that they need to perfect themselves/become stable providers in order to be worthy enough to even begin the search for love while horrible men and insecure women get relationships all the time. They're basically blamed for existing in a society that only accepts one type of man as "a real man"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/24 09:46 PM
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Insecure women that are down on themselves get saved, insecure men that are down on themselves get told “yikes! insecurity isn’t attractive!!” and to man up I love the male privilege of being kicked when I’m at my lowest and told I’m unworthy of love or anything unless I make myself flawless.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/24 06:51 PM
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Why am I not surprised that a feminist believes every sexist stereotype about men and defends treating them like werewolves 😂😂😂 Even if men perpetrated most violence that doesn't mean that most mean are/would be violent, because violent criminals are an extreme minority, like literally 0.2% of the population yet you're taking it out on all men who, it's worth noting, are half of DV victims and notoriously underreport their female abusers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/24 07:39 PM
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Incredibly well said, even though she was probably led astray why would you want someone who believes their toxic friends/forums over you to the point where they try to manipulate you or treat you as a suspect? Also there's a certain irony about the crowd that complains about men being insecure and telling them to go to therapy thinking it's okay to treat men as abusers waiting to happen and making other wives paranoid.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/24 02:28 AM
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Let me guess, wall to wall hatred from feminist subs lol
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/24 08:53 PM
1

It was a .uk link, that's about it lol. I just wanted to make sure bc I don't want to bring up stuff from a different country when making arguments about my own.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/24 08:24 PM
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About the Steve Moxon thing, is it all based on the UK or in general? (I don't have time to read all of it yet)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/24 08:05 PM
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Idk if his comments are still up but here's some screenshots of that OP defending themselves, comparing it to racial profiling is honestly pretty apt. https://x.com/ellegist/status/1754962692115177926?s=20
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/24 07:35 PM
2

Good but one problem, there is no socially acceptable way
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/02/24 06:41 PM
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POV: you're a man and you open up about feeling lonely on reddit/twitter https://youtu.be/CYDW6kOQqR0?si=HpRSCyRxW_K6TmlW
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/02/24 01:14 AM
1

What really bothered me was mocking the memes about how men and women experiences loneliness differently (and the one about the study of more men going towards the right) The shoe0nhead video proved no matter how delicately you address the issue, even if you don't even mention women they still mock it. So fuck it, I don't care if there's a spicy meme about how women have it easier in this regard and men have it worse.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/24 05:50 PM
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Not really because I expect conservatives to be conservative, I'm more mad about the left using that as an excuse to further neglect men's issues rather than address them. Especially when they caused this polarization in the first place, the right wouldn't have a leg to stand on if the left wasn't such a hostile space towards men Whether you're apolitical or even on their side you're automatically branded a misogynizing Tater-chud for noticing men's issues at all lmao they consider them right wi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/24 05:14 AM
7

This needs to be stickied
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/01/24 06:31 PM
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I’m on the left numb nuts
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/24 09:39 PM
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It’s not whataboutism it’s accountability. You’re not fit to be the one true movement of gender equality if you neglect half the population. If we didn't bring up male victims they would not be talking about them at all. Oh and I found a new misandrist sub r/boysarequirky Some of the memes they crit. deserved to be dunked on but you know how the reddit circle jerk functions.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/01/24 07:06 PM
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Never miss an opportunity to remind them they're reinforcing the toxic gender norms of the patriarchy when the object of their anger becomes their man's emotional vulnerability and openness to them. They're mad because they expect men always be the "strong" and stable ones in the relationship. The mask really slips off here because they complain about how men are "toxic" for bottling their emotions yet have open contempt for the ones that reach out to them for emotional support/sympathy in their…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/01/24 03:47 AM
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I'll say this again, they claim they want to dismantle the patriarchy we allegedly live in that hurts men too while simultaneously believing every harmful stereotype about men/boys and complain about toxic masculinity/insecurity when their go to move is to question the masculinity of men they don't like
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/24 07:35 PM
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The phrase sounds an awful lot like weaponization of men’s emotional vulnerability and intimacy needs, in fact it even sounds like something a movie villain would say “you need me more than I need you, so you better do as I say”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/24 09:39 AM
2

At least they were honest when they said that most where young men who’s girlfriend had recently broke up with them. Not nearly enough attention is given to those cases and how it’s mostly men doing that sort of thing. It’s very telling how the “men need to learn how to take rejection better” talking point is always in reference to men saying something nasty to offend women who rejected them or the idea that they will hurt women but it’s never the far more likely outcome that they will hurt them…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/24 08:10 AM
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I honestly don't even like walking down the same aisle at the store as them sometimes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/24 07:37 AM
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Regardless it's not justified to view a whole demographic with paranoia as potential criminals when 99.8% of them are not violent criminals. That's the logic of bigotry.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/24 07:15 AM
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Facts, other factors such as divorce, parental alienation, and loss of custody also multiply suicide risk. Their death would simply be counted as suicide even if the driving factor was an abusive relationship. There's also the motive when it comes to abuse that they want to make things work to a fault because of how in love they are and don't want to get their partner in trouble, I'd imagine that also brings out the protective sense in some men, where they believe it's their 'duty' to protect th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/24 03:22 AM
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Men are far less likely to report their abuse and see themselves as victims on top of the justice system excluding male victims.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/01/24 07:00 PM
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Yes I have, this is not political it’s bipartisan.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/24 07:48 PM
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I honestly don’t think it’s some noble safety precaution as much as I believe it’s a sign that they see them as a lowly loser and who would want to be seen with a loser? They really going to tell their friends they’re dating Autistic Anthony from math class? There’s definitely an element of paranoia but cmon they definitely know that there’s plenty of harmless guys out their who are just socially awkward, shy or neurodivergent. It's mostly just shallowness. Having a lot of friends and GFs shows …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/24 07:18 PM
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Except feminists have single handedly created/reinforced the majority of these issues, actively demonized and stigmatized men as a whole thus marginalizing all their issues. Ironically they have done all this while conserving gender roles/expectations for men and using the "patriarchy" as a boogieman
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/24 07:57 PM
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I know this wasn't the study's focus but, now do virgin shaming!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/01/24 06:21 PM
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They claim that their focus is conditional on who currently needs it the most when in reality no matter how dire the situation gets for men their issues always come last, all second class. Even minor grievances take priority over life and death issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/24 08:15 PM
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”another man who says women should care about men’s problems instead of doing something about it himself” This is just being told to man up with extra steps, also so much for “feminism helps men too”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/24 05:06 PM
3

I've always thought that the "male gaze" concept and the racist paranoia in the last two centuries about black men and their "gaze" towards white women sounded very similar
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/24 08:15 AM
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Add in another question: Is it responsible for a movement of equality to condone hateful rhetoric towards another group? how would that harmful rhetoric remain insignificant when it is normalized and allowed grow and fester?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/01/24 02:34 AM
4

You protect any of the other victims of patriarchy?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/24 06:37 PM
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Name one men’s issue they do anything to address
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/01/24 05:54 PM
16

I think it’s dehumanizing to reduce men’s human need for love and intimacy as them just wanting to nut and “use women’s bodies”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/24 05:17 PM
4

It’s just them projecting
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/24 04:59 PM
7

What the fuck
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/24 11:52 PM
10

Their pathetic response to any of these issues is "yeah but wHo cOnTroLs sOcIeTy?"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/24 09:33 PM
24

Something more direct that people defend all the time is women bringing a friend to the date for "safety"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/24 10:08 PM
1

There is an iconic model but it's one of coping, not one you aspire to be but one you see yourself in and that iconic image beneath the irony and memes is a lonely man in the rain(literally me)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/01/24 06:02 PM
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Thank you for this comment, ableism towards neurodivergent men gets left out of the conversation and men’s issues in general far too often. They get treated like subhumans.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/01/24 07:13 PM
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Yeah you can’t have your “men are so toxic for not opening up to women” and at the same time treat men who do open up with contempt and ridicule.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/01/24 03:46 AM
5

I’ve never seen more word salad in my life, they might be a lost cause
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/24 09:36 PM
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there's a general loneliness epidemic No there's not lmao, Intentionally or not that framing whitewashes the issue and that's one of the things they have tried to do when it's brought up. It's not really a feminist idea bc their only interaction with it has been to treat it as an mra talking point, in other words it doesn't exist but if it did exist then it's a non-issue or like I said before some vague thing that affects everyone the same.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/12/23 03:05 AM
1

Conservative: man up liberal!! bootstraps bootstraps Progressive: man up chud!! bootstraps bootstraps Good arguments on both sides /s
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/23 06:00 AM
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I'm not going to believe those types of women or their behavior are shunned or shamed by most other women bc they're simply not, their brand of sexism is mainstream and accepted by society at large. We still have a long, long way to go. It was in response to this part: Believe me, we find them to be incredibly cringe and sexist too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/23 02:04 AM
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The problem with that is that it’s already the default, they already find benevolent sexism but they don’t see it as coming at the expense of men or recognize in general that men can be victims or see it as a privilege that they have over men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/12/23 04:56 PM
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Can we please do a better job of acknowledging the real victims of traditional male gender roles? Men’s lives are treated as disposable/less important for the sake of that benevolent sexism. It’s like saying the bad thing about the draft is that we’re underestimating women’s combat capabilities not that boys and men are being forced to risk their lives and die because of their gender. Same with generic chivalry/the provider role, it’s expecting men to be servants basically.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/12/23 02:17 AM
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Society's response to: Woman insecure about her body after years of being told she's ugly and less of a woman for it: Poor thing! we need to improve society to be more accepting of her body type. Your experience is valid af bby men are awful. Man insecure about his body after years of being told he's ugly and less of a man for it: Yikes! he needs to just man up, stop being insecure and blaming women for his problems. Lived experience? It's all in his toxically masculine mind that he would believ…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/12/23 01:20 AM
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Weird that you can't see it, but here's what I replied to your other comment: "With all due respect, You may be decent and consistent in your beliefs but I’m not going to believe you over my own lived experience and the thousands of other men also saying that it’s a societal problem. I’ll believe you when it’s no longer a completely taboo subject to even bring up let alone be taken seriously. There’s vastly more enabling of this bad behavior than there is shaming of it unfortunately." I want to …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/23 02:44 AM
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With all due respect, You may be decent and consistent in your beliefs but I’m not going to believe you over my own lived experience and the thousands of other men also saying that it’s a societal problem. I’ll believe you when it’s no longer a completely taboo subject to even bring up let alone be taken seriously. There’s vastly more enabling of this bad behavior than there is shaming of it unfortunately.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/12/23 12:21 AM
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I don't want to be lonely but at the same time the idea of that stuff working is just so sickening and stupid that I don't even want to play the game
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/23 09:58 PM
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Wait until you find out that women also base a man's entire worth on how much women want him and thats probably why men are so self conscious about it in the first place. Male virgins are so universally despised by women that it is the go-to insult to impune their masculinity/validity as a "real man" even if sex isn't remotely related to the argument. Manliness is also so narrowly defined that as well that many characteristics are the subject of mockery even if its outside the man's control(heig…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/12/23 09:53 PM
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It's all so tiring, the denial that women play any significant role in shaping gender norms and engage in gate keeping what a "real man" is, is comical.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/12/23 09:09 PM
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mostly but not wholly from women. The irony in this claim is that most men are only comfortable showing vulnerability with women, and spaces that consist of only men are full of “Tough guys don’t cry” competitions and the belittling of men who show emotional depth Way off the mark, women absolutely hold straight men to a standard of "manliness" and crying and being vulnerable does not fit their definition, they expect them to be strong and manly. I hate this implication that they as a demographi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/12/23 09:01 PM
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Insecurities can be toxic, can be unfounded, can be harmful to others, can be harmful to the insecure person, can be caused by toxic social norms, etc. it's such a nuanced subject yet with men it's always used as a cudgel to beat them and victim blame them while with women its always used to invoke sympathy and social change.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/12/23 06:05 AM
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On a non-ideological level they generally don’t know what real loneliness actually is. It becomes pretty obvious when they characterize someone who is starved of that basic need for an unhealthy amount of time and lamenting it as having an unhealthy dependence on women for their happiness.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/12/23 11:31 PM
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Throw the whole term in the garbage, it’s abusive nonsense meant to turn the tables on people who trusted you enough to be vulnerable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/23 12:26 AM
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"we call ourselves the Good Guys, so there's no way we could be the bad guys see it's in the name"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/23 06:47 AM
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The vast majority of feminists either flat out deny misandry exists or marginalize it as something trivial that men need to stop "whining" about. This is just not arguable. Their idea of "dismantling the patriarchy" is victim blaming men for all the worlds ills.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/23 06:41 AM
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So basically they're attractive and beautiful to you as long as they never show to you their mental suffering or that society's treatment of them has affected them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/23 05:08 PM
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Well also bc the burden of performance isn't on them and men don't have as ridiculous expectations for their potential partners
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/11/23 03:43 AM
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Had an interaction the other day on a "patriarchy" sub and it went as you'd expect, men are the victims of patriarchy too yet their voices and experiences aren't treated as if they matter in any way unless they validate this theory.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/11/23 09:42 PM
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•watch romcom anime •in the final act •Male MC needs to "man up" and make the move •Female MC just needs to be honest with herself and realize she loves him, for reeeeal this time. Almost every time this happens. This is probably a tangent but I needed to rant about this format.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/23 06:15 PM
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Self love is great but there's only so much you can do alone as a social creature, people weren't meant to be alone for decades. Something has to give, the empathy has to come from society.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/11/23 04:35 AM
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Wow so if the wife is neglecting him that means he's the loser in that scenario? and the body shaming of men ofcourse... I want to like NSE but she really goes back and forth sometimes between having empathy and having none.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/11/23 09:57 PM
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men who pursue women are pure trash I would steer clear of making such a generalization, men are given no other choice but to pursue and put on an act of smoothness if they want any sort of relationships. The quiet guy could sometimes be the one pursuing bc he knows the alternative is dying alone. Tell them to steer clear of obvious f*ckboys pursuing
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/23 06:19 AM
3

Just like the fear of crying specifically in front of their wife/GF, it's all Stockholm syndrome not some stubborn "macho" BS for other men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/23 06:08 AM
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The way you worded number 4 really spoke to me, I mean I knew the hypocrisy already but the angle of "structuring their lives to never risk rejection" part left me speechless. It was always a frustrating talking point that "men need to learn how to take rejection better" bc not only do men on average have to face an astronomical amount of rejection by comparison but the majority of men that silently get their spirits broken and simply give up(or take long breaks) on dating are never considered, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/23 09:55 PM
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It's literally "stop being a baby... I wasn't punching you, I was hitting you" logic
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/11/23 06:42 PM
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It's also strick enforcement male gender roles, just a quick example: it's still highly taboo if the man doesn't pay for a date to the point where there might not be a second date if you don't pay and establish said one sided dynamic. Some bald guy with sunglasses is not the one responsible for that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/11/23 06:34 PM
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"it's never the case because I said so" amazing rebuttal, it's totally not the women-are-wonderful effect.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/23 09:26 PM
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blaming women for men’s issues There’s nothing inherently wrong with that if it’s the case, the fact that the very concept of women harming men is deemed illegitimate without any evaluation by default is a pretty big problem and a double standard considering feminism is dedicated to criticizing men’s behavior and how it affects society yet the reverse is not allowed. How would we ever find out if women are to blame for some of the problems men face if we aren’t even allowed to ask that question
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/11/23 08:07 AM
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They don’t consider the average experience when it comes to men, they only see male CEOs, all the men working in dangerous conditions for low wages under that CEO don’t matter. That men are still treated as disposable is never under any circumstances a priority for them compared to any minor inconvenience perceived to be specific to women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/10/23 11:12 AM
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Whenever someone tries to tell you it’s not shallow just tell them the message that society spent the past few decades drilling into young men’s brains: “if you don’t give a woman a chance because of anything other than her personality you’re a sexist pig, it’s only what’s on the inside that counts”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 09:48 PM
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It's a two way street tho, if you're giving mixed signals and are bad at communication(which plenty of women/men are) you can't automatically assume that it was the man that lacked the social skills and needs to be the one to grow and change.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 06:02 PM
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The breakdown of social norms actually IS worth whining about lol especially if you are being gaslit about it. Men are being told "your social skills are lacking if you can't make heads or tails of someone else's mixed messages and lack of social skills" Also Im sorry but I don't want to hear about risk aversion from someone who is never required to make that kind of risk let alone do it hundreds of times.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 05:47 PM
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But seriously yeah, you innocently misreading friendliness and shooting your shot could easily get you labelled a creep or a thirsty/pathetic dude simply bc she wasn't into you/didn't find you attractive. Even if none of that happens, by default you still risk the sting that comes with rejection. It is you're fault for not being able to mind read.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 05:16 PM
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Metaphors are fun
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 05:10 PM
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That kind of proves me and OP's point in the title though, the response to it is: "you have to stand on the trap door to find out if it's a trap door, if the floor gives way that's your answer" 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 05:04 PM
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I think I got the ick for all women just now lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 04:06 PM
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All those extra steps when they could've just been decent people
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 03:41 PM
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But even that isn't a good rule of thumb, could just mean she's being nice and wants to be friends or simply wants validation from that dude without intention. Quite a pickle
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 03:27 PM
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Only the most kind, morally upright, self actualized, spiritually settled and pure of heart among us are worthy of relationships, lesser mortals should not even try unless they themselves have completed the journey. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 09:45 PM
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Getting paid $12-15 an hour to wash dishes at a packed restaurant vs idk several hundred for sleeping with someone for a few minutes. Now im not an economics major but...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 04:45 PM
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The people saying extreme things can also be a sign of someone who is just bold enough to say the quiet part out loud. That doesn't mean the underlying social problem should be dismissed tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 04:36 PM
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The context of not changing yourself in hopes of gaining other people's approval is mostly in terms of character. I'm not going to adapt to society's meta if I find it evil or simply out of character I'm not going to play mind games, treat her like a cheap prostitute, or put on a macho act 24/7. If having a "career" just means being groomed to become a second bank account to women that want to use me then I don't want one. I'm not gonna drastically change my personality to become more palatable …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 04:20 PM
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It's no accident, I'm pointing out that it's nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 03:07 PM
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Must we blame the victim?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 05:43 AM
2

The average man is not a fckin 1%er politician. He's a cashier.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 05:39 AM
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Except there's one teenie, tiny fatal flaw in this argument.... Women will literally give the same bad advice as the RP: just be a decent human being, lift some weights, get a good haircut, take a shower, have money, you can win over any girl if your game is good enough, be a "provider" etc. Etc. and say it guarantees success when it doesn't. The RP is gynocentric lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 05:27 AM
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All men’s soul crushing experiences on dating sites are invalid and not real life but one success story on a dating site that results in a relationship suddenly, it’s valid and real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 03:58 PM
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Someone who doesn’t have any women at their disposal, can’t afford to treat women as disposable!! it’s pretty much common sense. OP fumbled by saying it’s an absolute but it really is a lot less likely, don’t know why people in the comments are cappin’ so hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:47 PM
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Yet another goofy self imposed barrier to finding a good man “he had a heart of gold but just didn’t have that WOW factor the first time we talked, didn’t give me the tingles”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:29 PM
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chadfishing This needs to become the norm when it comes to all these debate lmao you think it’s so easy? try setting up two different dating profiles with two different pictures, one more attractive than the other and compare results
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:26 PM
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Works cited: • • •
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:20 PM
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After all, it’s only wrong when men want sex /s
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:16 PM
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Maybe just don’t have sex instantly? maybe talk for longer to see if there chemistry. I like the ridiculous attempts to massively expand and water down the clear meaning of pump and dump on here lmao something that does not work out is not the same as being used explicitly for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:10 PM
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I would get to know them and wouldn't rule them out instantly. You gonna read leafy's message or nah?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:34 PM
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"personality matters but only after I have considered them an option based on their looks, then I actually care to get to know them"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 06:59 PM
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It's not a perspective if it plays out that way in reality and you choose not to believe it due to idealism. You see a MF that looks like this on a dating site, you even gonna read his message? LMAO stop the cap <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 06:56 PM
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Yeah not every ugly awkward guy becomes a high status millionaire actor who is beloved for playing a heckin wholesome character(key word: character) in comedy movies. Had he not become a meme/actor, he would get very little attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 06:51 PM
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Because they're trying to tell me water isn't wet lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 06:43 PM
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Wanting to be valued for who you are rather than surface level, often unchangeable characteristics isn't entitlement. Everyone has a level of shallowness but when that level is too high its not healthy for anyone, including the person being shallow because they've limited themselves to a point of unhappiness, where little to no people actually meet those shallow criteria.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 06:37 PM
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Bad faith assumption, good men have been gaslit their whole lives that women care very, very little about looks and even to this day people claim "you just have to be a decent human being and treat women well" to get a GF. So these men are saying what a minute? I happen to meet this criteria already by nature so why am I unsuccessful and why are men that aren't good more successful? When the dudes who are faking it and the dudes who are genuinely good by default have the same lack of success tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 05:27 PM
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Now you’re projecting all your pre programmed talking points onto me lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 04:43 PM
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That literally happens all the time on social media and real life, it doesn’t affect you so you’re massively out of touch.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 04:35 PM
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If you project your insecurities onto ALL well meaning meaning men and claim they’re all merely faking and lying you need therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 04:24 PM
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Pretending a dude that looks like Michael Cera has the same dating prospects as one that looks like Ryan Gosling is just not true. Looks even influence how positively your personality and actions are perceived (the halo effect). Personality has very little to do with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 04:19 PM
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Looks overpower personality, personality is optional. Women complain they can’t find a good man but leave all the actual good men in the friendzone bc they selected for things that have nothing to do with virtue like whether or not the guy is 6ft tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 04:02 PM
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Men don’t exist in a vacuum, women don’t like unmanly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 03:54 PM
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I think it’s because society places all men’s value on their ability to fulfill the provider role regardless of relationship status. I see many highly talented and passionate artists on social media but if they don’t have status and it’s not making them good money then society will call that person a loser who’s wasting his time… he doesn’t have any “ambition” (aka $$$$$$)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 03:49 PM
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Not all rejections are equal
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 03:41 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 02:31 AM
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If you need a lithium ion battery with 3 heads and 4 motors to jackhammer you for 20 minutes that's a little goofy and he has every right to get bored and leave lmao it would be like if men had to put on a VR headset and have virtual sex with a cartoonishly large pornstar to get hard
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 02:26 AM
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"who is riling men up? Is it not other men?" you do know that women have agency and are capable of hatred and cruelty right? you do know there's a movement that has normalized misandry and mockery of men's issues right? "Women are literally screaming that confidence and personality is sexy" the talk isn't matching the walk obviously, if it did we wouldn't have these issues. Men's online communities around dating didn't come first, their dating struggles did. You're putting the cart before the ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:23 PM
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Ah yes, as opposed to a suicidal sperge that: Buys into the gaslighting that it's only about personality and if you fail it means you're not a good person by defailt. Never criticizes a world that is very judgemental of them but instead internalizes failures that were in reality, beyond his control the vast majority of the time. Was told they simply need to "man up" and pull themselves up by bootstraps again, and then again like some kind of prestige mode but with looks and game. Was obsessed ov…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:05 PM
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It really shows how far, far away we still are from having empathy for men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:31 PM
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I'd rather not have to engage in Mortal Kombat with someone's ex
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:22 PM
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If he was attractive enough to bang on the spot then they would not believe he is a virgin. Virginity is broadly considered a red flag in men even though it shouldn't be.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:49 AM
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It's also a loveless transaction where intimacy is highly unlikely and no success was actually earned, it's functionally no different than still being a virgin. If the idea behind OP suggesting this was for them to gain confidence then it's a total fail. To some people men apparently don't have any complex emotions beyond nutting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:44 AM
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Someone can be a good person and a bit of a pushover, they're not mutually exclusive. Taking kindness as weakness or just not appreciating someone who treats you well is not a normal or healthy mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 11:05 PM
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"rightfully so" Lol I love the ego here, women are never wrong about it being fake even though they are 95% of the time projecting their insecurities onto good men who want relationships. Every single one is faking, yeah whatever you say buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 10:49 PM
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"You need to be a better person" Is the average man worse than Chris Brown? Because him and tons of men like him are terrible people but because of looks and status they have zero problem getting women. In fact it's literally a complaint if a guy is "too nice" "It not about being the perfect package" Except don't be average, ugly, poor, short, autistic, shy, unconfident, any degree of socially awkward, have a super interesting personality even if she doesn't and last but not least.. despite all …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 06:24 PM
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If they cared about other things obviously we wouldn’t be in a loneliness epidemic, it’s not from lack of trying, it’s from people lying. The lack of success literally came first before online communities. You’re putting the whole wagon in front of the horse.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 05:55 PM
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Except looks influence how your character is interpreted (the halo effect)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 07:58 PM
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Where they at doe?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 05:13 AM
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What's the epic joke here? that OP is part of a large group of men that have had a similar experience on dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 05:24 PM
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Women in the traditional days were also not talking to 30 different men at the same time through pocket telegraphs while accepting a date with one guy. The likelihood of getting a second date was probably much higher back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 07:28 AM
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They do, because even non-trad women enforce gender roles on them. Like paying for dates for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 07:21 AM
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The promiscuous abusers and dudes in/out of prison every weekend are totally fixable but the autistic, nerdy or even slightly awkward guys are evil and worthless for life /s
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 12:46 AM
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Yep, it's a loop of shallowness and narcissism
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 12:41 AM
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No one you say? 😂😂😂 https://twitter.com/liIpochaco/status/1690718799366963201?s=20
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 08:57 PM
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Eh I was thinking moreso about how average women will demand that average men needs to be a source of entertainment, have interesting hobbies and be able to carry the whole conversation while probably possessing none of those things herself. I guess my point is they have no right to possess a superiority complex over guys that text "hey" if they are just as basic and bland as they are. If you are interesting well you do deserve an equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 08:55 PM
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Well they basically get told that if you're lonely/can't find a partner it simply means that you are a bad person with a toxic personality and/or hates women and want to use them for sex. Even though there's like 1 million things beyond your control that will make you unattractive to women or disqualified as an option and thus not be given a chance to show your good/bad character.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 07:25 PM
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Literally this
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 07:09 PM
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That tends to be the result when you set up society to where one gender has no other choice but to do all the initiating otherwise they end up dying alone
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 06:15 PM
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Also the ego, someone with the personality of a piece of bread(which is most people in general) telling others that they need to put in more effort to prove how innteresting they are, in a few words or less to be given a chance is rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 05:59 PM
5

Men are pretty much gaslit by everyone into internalizing their rejections
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 05:52 PM
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Don't join activities or groups with an ulterior motive that's creepy but also join activities or groups with an ulterior motive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 05:48 PM
5

Plenty of people approach without desperation and still don't find success though
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 05:45 PM
3

Now think about what happens to shy, awkward or neurodivergent men. It's not pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:56 PM
2

You're clear not mature or intelligent enough to see beyond yourself or the messenger. Average Bethesda NPC who walks into a wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:05 PM
2

The good men who get dismissed for surface level reasons are Boy, redditors sure have a hard time thinking about big concepts like demographics, might be too complicated for you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:13 PM
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"Why can't they not be a POS" That's thing, they're not all POSs, y'all are just picking the Snakes (POSs) when you could have chosen an innocent, loving puppy and then projecting your insecurities on them after you got bit by a completely different animal. Men & women ARE animals but that doesn't work for the metaphor obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:18 AM
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I like how the whole point of the metaphor went over your head so thoroughly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:01 AM
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No contradiction here, they're choosing a partner based on horniness and shallowness not moral character or personality
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 11:57 PM
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The difference is there's no men claiming to be omniscient with their mate selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 11:39 PM
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*walks into a pet store Hermit crab? boring. Puppy? boring & too nice *Goes into the woods YOOOO look at that wild poisonous snake i'm gonna grab it and make it my pet aghhahhh it bit me!! wtf all pets are evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 11:32 PM
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men on here upset that... It's not their fault if you're projecting all your insecurities and past trauma onto every man just because you selected the bad boys. "hEs tOo NiCe iT mUst bE aN aCt" Also plenty of women brag about having a “roster" of men that they take advantage of, it turns out having a lot of options tends to corrupt people...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:37 AM
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I should've been more specific, personal anecdotes don't prove the rule. Generalizations can be useful but not "I haven't had this happen to me so it's not true, checkmate" Because your experience is closer to the exception rather than the rule, creepiness is unfortunately decided on a whim most of the time rather than objective behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 05:08 PM
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Funny how anecdotes don't prove the rule
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 03:42 PM
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Except the fake nice guys and the real nice guys have almost the exact same experience. Someone is lying, and it's not the guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 06:44 PM
3

Dehumanizing all lonely men as people incapable of love and meaningful relationships is not a valid argument
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 06:19 PM
2

Wet match, dark cave
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 09:19 AM
1

I see this tactic all the time and it doesn't work, If you can't actually argue the points on their merit and do the thinking instead of letting others think for you then you're not going to convince anyone you're correct. Literally zero value in saying "This is just an (insert boogieman) trope!!" okay and? is the underlying societal observation being made actually wrong? is the conclusion wrong? Are boogiemen really the only ones making said arguments? Critical thinking is rare these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 09:02 AM
1

Sexist, man hating nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:45 AM
3

Anyone who says that is simply lying to get more Twitter impressions
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 07:46 PM
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May is quite the understatement lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 03:34 AM
3

The best strategy is no strategy, fuck all the mind games
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 03:28 AM
1

It's not an inherently bad thing, it means you've made your final choice but in this modern climate it's basically a shorthand for: settling for "less" and paired with other phrases like "I am the prize" and "know your worth"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 03:41 PM
1

That's quitter talk
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 03:34 PM
2

No we must project insecurities and past bad decisions onto every man ever by assuming they're all scumbag womanizers incapable of love
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 05:20 AM
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What's also not fixed is how confidence is acquired/built, the "just be confident" advice makes the same assumption. Confidence doesn't come solely from a mind numbingly crazy amount of attempts it comes from attempts where there's positive feedback. If you're naturally good looking and have only ever received positive feedback for even the most half assed efforts then that confidence was much easier to build up. It's gonna be much harder to build confidence when all you've gotten is negative fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 11:32 PM
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"All lives matter"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 08:17 PM
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To not have the burden of performance on you and be valued independent of your material wealth is a tremendous privilege, privilege is invisible to those that have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:11 PM
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https://twitter.com/liIpochaco/status/1690718799366963201?s=20 Here you go a tweet with almost 40k likes and has led to numerous agreements, a metric ton of women will claim that the only reason a man is lonely/can't get a GF is simply because they are a horrible person/misogynist who simply needs to be decent and treat women like human beings to get the girl. This is a very, very common gaslight.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 05:21 PM
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Socially stigmatize shallow standards
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 05:11 PM
2

What privilege does to a mf
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 04:02 PM
1

But the context is delusion, the connotation women use for settling is always in the negative, "don't settle.....for less" and "I am the prize" An average to below average women who demands a man in the top 10% is delusional, not only for her sense of entitlement but also thinking that an average man is somehow beneath them and dating one of them would be lowering themselves to peasant status. Either way there's no excuse for narcissism towards your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 08:16 AM
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I don't think anyone said that money is a predictor of character Yet it's literally being equated to a man's worth and fitness to be a partner/father No reason to be in a relationship if you aren't matched financially The truth comes out, when people say love is transactional it's supposed to be a figure of speech lmao women can be stable by themselves this whole thread is about how they want $tability from men regardless of whether they actually need it, they simply feel entitled to it. That tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 05:32 AM
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Call me crazy but I think romantic relationships should be based around love and moral fiber. Men have value beyond money. money(along with a ton of other criteria women use) isn't a predictor of character or a good partner. not much "stability" if he uses you for sex, ghosts you, cheats on you, doesn't care about you emotionally, abuses you, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 04:10 AM
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Because that often entails being used, not respected or dumped as soon as there's a more exciting "provider" she thinks she's entitled to. They don't want to be treated as disposable and less valuable when they're not, where is the contradiction?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 04:00 AM
2

So basically Chad in different battle pass skins and gear 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:54 AM
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Or we could just not be materialistic and view men as human beings instead of human doings
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:37 AM
1

You and reality had a divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 01:09 PM
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We're social creatures that require romantic relationships, there's no getting around that in the long term. What you're doing is the equivalent of well off person telling a starving person not to think about food and explaining the benefit of fasting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 05:40 PM
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Ah yes, it's totally not deeply dehumanizing and sexist to view all men as zombies who just want to "use bodies" and don't have any human need for love and meaningful relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 02:59 AM
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Or it just means she is cute and relatable bc talking to someone you like and going on a date can be so nerve racking it becomes an endearing trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 12:52 AM
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Thank you for your very succinct way of addressing everything it very rare that someone addresses these issue so well. I can tell you've been through a lot and for some reason your tone and the heart breaking realities described remind me of this quote from Interstellar: "don't judge me Cooper, you were never tested like I was" -Dr. Mann.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 12:49 AM
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an autistic guy is to be bullied by gals I couldn't help but notice this trend with my bullies, is there any stats on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 12:24 AM
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The point is that men have a much higher tolerance for women on the spectrum whereas men on the spectrum to any degree, are treated very poorly by women and considered undateable. Women having public freakouts would be the cutoff point whereas a man simply being shy or socially awkward would be the cutoff point for most women. The social pressure on men to be assertive, "confident" and have "game" in order to be attractive is absolutely crippling
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 12:16 AM
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