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| 19 | Empathy | Discussion | Alarechercheduneame | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 02:07 AM |
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| 1 | EmpathySure, that’s a broadly true statement, but the toxicity surrounding this subject and male-female relations is very high. There are a lot of insults, very little understanding of where the other side is coming from and a lot of contempt or bitterness… I think healing this just reduces pain. And I’m not really a “teacher”, I do teach language classes but not in a highschool or anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 05:04 PM |
| 1 | EmpathyYes I know it’s about the sexual market place, I’m just telling you about me etc. because you asked. And the empathy post is relevant because the sexual market place/make female relations/relationships in general need to be infused with far more compassion than is currently the case. I want to homeschool for many reasons: 1. I love children, and I think I’d want to spend a lot of time with mine 2. I seriously think that a lot of school is just daycare and I don’t like how young children are forc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 11:16 AM |
| 2 | women on reddit: wOMEN do noT tHINK 80% OF Men ARe uNATtRACTIve, tHAt'S a myTh PeRpetuatEd By INceLs ON REddit". also women on reddit:That is a good point. If it is that, then yes, I guess I see why. But I have a hard time believing that is what’s happening. I know a few unattractive women with warm, understanding smiles - and genuinely lovely characters. I’m thinking of one in particular who is rather unfortunate looking but her personality is golden and it shows in her demeanour and face that she’s a kind person. No one gives a shit. It’s about beauty first, then I guess (I’m guessing) the guy makes up a story in his head ab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 11:01 AM |
| 3 | women on reddit: wOMEN do noT tHINK 80% OF Men ARe uNATtRACTIve, tHAt'S a myTh PeRpetuatEd By INceLs ON REddit". also women on reddit:That is what you took from what I said? The same goes for ugly men. When I was in high school I saw a documentary about Jay-Z. Afterwards I found him very attractive - even though I think most people would say he was physically rather ugly. Similarly, after seeing a debate of Christopher Hitchens’ I found him incredibly attractive, despite him being overweight and his face being blotchy and puffy from alcoholism and sleeplessness. Similarly, in high school there was a guy who was a fat and sweat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 10:56 AM |
| -1 | The idea that women could possibly want tall men is preposterous. It’s only important that men are taller than they are.So is wanting a gorgeous woman who is barren or has some issue with her reproductive organs or a terminal disease. The logic of wanting a gorgeous woman is wanting someone who is fertile and able to carry and give birth to your offspring. Almost all the cross cultural markers of beauty are just markers of health and/or fertility in women. If men were logical, they’d go for an ugly woman with a perfect health score and wide hips over a Victoria’s Secret model who has PCOS or congenital heart dise… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 02:31 AM |
| 1 | EmpathyEhhh… Idk about “trad wife” no. I don’t think that’s really my crowd from what I have seen. Having said that, I’m sure some people would classify me that way because I would love to marry, have lots of children and then raise and homeschool them. I do think that men are (generally) better suited to leading the household and that gender roles (generally) work best for most men and women and I personally enjoy them. But I also have seen households where that is not the case and it works out fine -… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 02:23 AM |
| 9 | women on reddit: wOMEN do noT tHINK 80% OF Men ARe uNATtRACTIve, tHAt'S a myTh PeRpetuatEd By INceLs ON REddit". also women on reddit:One thought on this. I agree with the woman who says “0.5% look so attractive/interesting to me that I would like to get to know them better entirely based on their looks/clothes”. Because I am not going to think you’re interesting because you’re gorgeous - and I seriously wonder how men can feel that way about women! I find it so hard to believe that a man who comes to me on the street or in a park and says “I saw you, I thought you were cute and I wanted to get to know you better” or some vari… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 01:57 AM |
| 1 | EmpathyOk, I guess we’re probably just not going to see eye to eye on this. Maybe some of my bias is that my worldview is generally thus regarding the sexes: if one is suffering the other is suffering too, and whilst I don’t have a perfect tally or ledger, I tend to think it’s roughly equal. Because what hurts most is separation, and if one party is separated so is the other. Personally, I have no idea if I’d prefer to be a guy and I wouldn’t presume to know exaaaactly what it is like, but I can tell y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 01:29 AM |
| 1 | EmpathyWell a few things: Yes I agree that those men can use manipulation by being sweet or charming or stringing a girl along in order to get what he wants, but I don’t see how this is any different than girls who use their sexuality with male friends to get what they want. This is such a common behaviour… I’ve also seen many girls decide to give sex in order to get commitment, though usually it does not work. Of course these things are not totally divorced and do mingle, but it’s about proportions. W… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 06:35 PM |
| 1 | EmpathyYou don’t need to make personal comments to make your arguments. If you’re too frustrated to keep responding then don’t, but the insults don’t add anything productive. I will try to explain why I don’t think what I said is in any way disingenuous. If you still don’t understand, then perhaps we won’t see eye to eye. There are two necessary aspects to a romantic relationship - the romance (sexual aspect in all its forms) and the relationship (the interpersonal, emotionally intimate connection). Yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 06:15 PM |
| 4 | EmpathyI think your comment is a bit long for me to address everything you said but let me address a few things first: Yes, of course I know that words are meaningless if not backed up by action. This is a forum largely based on text though, i.e. words. I said what I said because I meant it, and am willing to take actions that demonstrate empathy (and actually, I do, you just don’t know that because you don’t know me). I don’t need to read that book or pretend to be a man in order to understand a parti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 06:05 PM |
| 1 | EmpathyNot sure what the point was, but I do believe we all use both sides of our brains | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 05:45 PM |
| 1 | EmpathyI really think you’re wrong… yes, women will be attracted to those men, but ultimately, their deepest desires aren’t gratified by sex. Ever. Whilst of course there is a biological drive to reproduce, neither I nor any woman I know has ever said or even thought “I must find the Alpha’s seed and implant it in meeee!” We only want to have a man’s child if he will stay. Surely you have noticed that in women’s fantasies, that guy marries her - the point is that she gets an attractive guy who ALSO wan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 04:07 PM |
| 1 | EmpathyIn France we say “In love, there is always one who suffers and one who is bored” and I do think that is true to an extent, though it doesn’t mean the roles won’t be exchanged and I think it works more on an individual level. But a few things: I think it’s not true to say women have the advantage. I think neither do. Let me explain: Women and men prioritise different things in relationships - yes there are exceptions, but in general it is thus: A woman wants a man who can protect and provide for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 03:07 PM |
| 2 | EmpathyI agree with pretty near everything you wrote, but I do think on an individual level, compassion and empathy always helps heal wounds, if administered correctly. I’m not talking about stroking peoples’ egos. Therapy is essentially just professional empathy. The best therapy anyway | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 11:54 AM |
| 1 | EmpathyLol, yeah, I’m not a regular. I came across this subreddit. I think I was looking to see if there were any conservative reddits because I’m rather conservative (of course, there are very few), and I stumbled onto this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 11:49 AM |
| 2 | EmpathyHm. That is actually a good point about listening to guys. I didn’t think of that, but yes, I think you are right. My main point still stands though, I do think empathy - love, essentially - is what is needed in everyone here’s life, and that it will be what saves people truly. You can do all the things you mentioned and yes, if someone actually did all that, I’m sure they’d get girls. But they’d probably still be bitter and twisted. It reminds me of a girl I know who used to be obese. She was a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 11:48 AM |
| 3 | EmpathyI just have a lot of feelings… 🥺 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 11:42 AM |
| 2 | EmpathyI totally agree about porn. I don’t know if I believe in evil, but if it’s real, porn is evil, and it definitely has the same energy as all the hatred I see in these sorts of groups. I have hoped for a long time that men will stop watching it and that women will stop too - apparently it’s increasingly common for them to watch porn and realistically, a lot of supposedly “regular” movies and TV shows nowadays are semi pornographic… aaaanyway, you seem very cool, I like you. Thanks for what you sai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 06:13 AM |
| 1 | EmpathyAww, thank you. Yeah I don’t think I’ll be coming back here after this post dies down ahah, but I still believe what I said is true. I know a lot of the men here are rude as heck, but honestly, I just know that comes from damage. I don’t buy that people randomly insult others purely for wholesome amusement without having been hurt and traumatised into bitterness. I’m not excusing the behaviour, but until we get to the root causes of the wounds and cure them with love and empathy and true efforts… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 05:53 AM |
| 2 | EmpathyNo hard feelings! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 05:27 AM |
| 2 | EmpathyI do take pity on you enough to correct your spelling though 🥰🥰🥰 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 05:13 AM |
| 2 | EmpathyLol, not quite the same, but that was amusing! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 05:08 AM |
| 1 | EmpathyOk… so what’s your point? We disagree, you know we disagree, so at this point you’re just repeating the same insults over and over and I guess expecting a different result - this is what we call “the definition of insanity” And just on this post alone, you’ve spent a ton of time, but I looked at your comment history briefly - all the ones I saw were on this sub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 04:34 AM |
| 1 | EmpathyOk I will give it one last shot. What’s your point? Ok you think I don’t make sense. I see exactly how I make sense, yet you haven’t pointed out how I don’t, you just stated that I don’t. But if that’s all you wanted to say, why keep going? What is the point? You on the other hand claim many people here are hypocrites because they comment on others behaviour and don’t spend much time trying to improve themselves - but you have spent a LOT of time on this sub making comments about others. To me t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 04:25 AM |
| 1 | EmpathyBeing serious or not has no bearing on whether or not it’s an insult. As for the actual insults: you don’t know what I think and you aren’t the supreme arbiter of what is sensible and what isn’t. I can see you’re becoming belligerent despite me not insulting you, so I don’t see a point in continuing this thread. Truthfully, all I have seen from you is doing the exact opposite of what you preach, and then getting mad when I neutrally point it out. You don’t need to keep commenting, you think I ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 04:12 AM |
| 2 | EmpathyThat is interesting. I still do believe that, at least in this group, that effect is strongly counteracted by the hatred or at least contempt a lot of the men here feel for women, which is directed at all women, despite them only having had experiences with certain women. I’m not making a value judgement on their opinions and of course the women in here do the same thing, but I am saying that in this group at least, men do tend to take the mens’ side no matter what, just as the women tend to tak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 03:20 AM |
| 2 | EmpathyThis comment made me smile, I think because I was expecting so much ruder a response in general ahaha - I’m actually in my 20s! But I should go to sleep, I will soon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 03:16 AM |
| 2 | EmpathyI don’t see the point of insults, and I think you know this is neither focusing on yourself, nor helping me - so why do it if you criticise people for not “practicing what they preach”? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 03:13 AM |
| 1 | EmpathyWell, like I said I didn’t know it was “Purge Week”, truthfully I’m not even that regular a visitor to Reddit. I came to this sub for the first time tonight (I think) and I was just struck by it. Also, I don’t believe trolling really just has no deeper psychological reason behind it than “lol I’m bored”. I just don’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 03:10 AM |
| 2 | EmpathyIn a while crocodile | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 03:06 AM |
| 2 | EmpathyWell, I don’t think the constant stream of hatred I see here is actually that fun, but if you don’t find this post fun, and that’s what you seek, then you don’t have to comment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 03:05 AM |
| 1 | EmpathyWell, at least I may plant the seed in one or two peoples heads. And I think I will edit this post tomorrow to say anyone who is feeling terrible can message me and we can chat, if there is any genuine interest in that. But thanks :) I’m glad you agree! That means already there’s more chance of it happening | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 03:04 AM |
| 4 | EmpathyHmm… I thought the point of Purge Week was that there were no more ideas about what “should” or “shouldn’t” be posted, but alright, I have heard your opinion | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 03:02 AM |
| 2 | EmpathyThis is an unfalsifiable argument, and I thought, tbh, that I would get more of these sorts of comments. It’s true that everyone - men, women, different races and cultures - has a tendency to side with their side. But knowing that is true does tend to mediate it, actually. I didn’t actually equate the sides at any point. I said they both do certain things and they do. I didn’t claim one does something more or less than the other or that they were equal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 03:00 AM |
| 3 | EmpathyWhy? I didn’t know it was “purge week” but even so - isn’t the whole point that anyone can post what they like? So I can post this, can’t I. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 02:58 AM |
| 1 | EmpathyIf people don’t want to implement your solution, and this whole issue is about peoples’ desires, then I don’t think your solution is actually a good solution. As for empathy, you’d be surprised what it can fix, actually, but of course, that is only the gateway to many more useful tactics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 02:57 AM |
| 1 | EmpathyI don’t know what that is but I’m not just interested in “sending thoughts and prayers” I actually WOULD like to talk to people on here and listen to them. Regarding the insult - I really don’t need anonymous attention to an anonymous account of mine - especially when I suspected a lot of it would be like yours. If you ever want to talk to someone, sincerely, I’m happy to listen, but otherwise, the insult isn’t necessary or useful, and I won’t stop engaging with people like this. Although I will… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 02:55 AM |
| 2 | EmpathyWell thank you, that is a nice compliment! But I do also really know what it’s like to feel bitter or resigned. I don’t know what a “just world fallacy sub” means but regarding mental health issues: I know this sub is ostensibly about men and women but we’ve got to be honest; this place is just one huge collective psychological wound. And YES I definitely agree therapy is ideal, but… well, empathy is also helpful (essentially, a lot of what therapy is is just skill-based, channeled, professional… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 02:51 AM |
| 1 | EmpathyI think we will disagree on insults. I am all for people expressing their true emotions, but the bitter snipes and insults - this does far more harm than good and just creates an increasingly toxic environment. The idea that it “gets it out of your system” is a myth. We used to think screaming or punching a pillow helped angry people to calm down. Actually we found it has the opposite effect. I think this constant rudeness and spitefulness is similar - it breeds more hate. That’s what you see in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 02:47 AM |
| 2 | EmpathyWell I guess what I’m saying (to everyone, not just you) is this: 1. If you think we should focus on ourselves, why comment on this post at all? If you want to spend some time commenting on posts here, why not use that time to do things that will actually help people heal? Why not stop with the bitter or just cold, removed comments I think everyone on here knows how to criticise themselves, even the ones who seem arrogant. I think most people in these communities actually have a lot of self loat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 02:44 AM |
| 5 | EmpathyMaybe not, but I can so see this kind of community turning into something surprisingly beautiful in a few years, and transforming a lot of painful experiences or misunderstandings into a way to grow. I know how extremely cheesy that sounds but I really mean it. I actually feel excited thinking about all the wonderful possibilities. But yes, maybe it will take a while, and certainly, it won’t get through to everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 02:39 AM |
| 1 | EmpathyYes, I see those people too, but I don’t fit into any of those categories and I dare say many other people here do not either. I do see what you’re saying about these two (broad) types of women giving conflicting advice and I do think both the men and women on here often lie or exaggerate things to suit their narrative or to virtue signal, but that’s not all of what this subreddit is. Also I’m not sure I see your point, genuinely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 02:35 AM |
| 1 | EmpathyWell, it’s really not fake pity. That’s all I guess I can say in response to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 02:33 AM |
| 2 | EmpathyAh ok, I literally just stumbled onto this Reddit a half hour ago or so, so perhaps I’m not getting a true demonstration of what it’s typically like, but I still just see a ton of spite and bitterness. I’m glad if it really is focused on self improvement, it’s just not at all what I see. Regarding helping ourselves before Helping others, I’m all for that order of priorities, but my point is not YOU ALL MUST HELP EVERYONE HERE. My point is that the hateful and bitter comments and the disgusting i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 02:31 AM |
| 1 | EmpathyBut you’re doing that… your comments on all these posts are addressed to other people. So your focus is on them. Not on yourself, just like these comments are addressed to me. You are using your “critical eye” right now | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 02:28 AM |
| 5 | EmpathyI don’t think that’s true. Eye for an eye actually does just make the whole world blind literally and figuratively it does worse, because the psychological damage from “blinding” the other group that has hurt you is greater than the act itself. Regarding having empathy for strangers - it doesn’t have to be performative at all. I feel empathy for strangers all the time. In fact all humans do except psychopaths, otherwise no one would cry in movies or give privately to charities or help the homele… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 02:25 AM |
| 1 | EmpathySure, I agree, but don’t you think that’s something people may not realise yet? I know plenty of people who felt these sorts of ways after a bad breakup or whatever but they had good friends or family to set them straight. Not having empathy for them does not help them. At best it just does nothing - If you ignore them like the vast majority of society does. That isn’t what you are doing though because you comment a bunch on this subReddit. At worst, it makes them more bitter and isolated. Obvio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 02:21 AM |
| 2 | EmpathyReally? you don’t have empathy for people who made bad choices? But everyone has made bad choices. Deciding to become bitter and succumb to disappointment is just another bad choice. They may not feel there is a better one | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 02:13 AM |
| 4 | This is what the average guy has to deal withHonestly, I’m a woman and I don’t know a single woman who talks (or acts) like this. I do know they exist, and I have seen them on a mind numbing reality TV show that, I admit, a lot of my friends like (Love Island), but I’m sorry, that is not how the average woman talks. And I say this as someone who lives in a Western country, in an urban area. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 01:46 AM |
| 0 | Men in a nutshellI really do think women are far less concerned with looks than men are. Personally, I’ve dated guys who were handsome and felt nothing, the man I was most attracted to was average attractiveness and slightly shorter than me. His character was insanely attractive though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 01:34 AM |
| 0 | Women in a nutshellWow. Honestly I read and am disgusted by a lot of the things incels and MGTOW types say about us, but I do want to tell you I’m very sorry that happened. That would be awful. Of course I’m sure it was sexually frustrating, but personally, I can’t even imagine what that would do to my self esteem to be rejected by the person you are supposed to be in a lifelong committed and loving relationship with, for such a long time and so consistently. I hope you heal from that experience, I am genuinely so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 01:29 AM |
| 1 | Why do women still put in so much more effort in relationships instead of staying single?I don’t think that’s true. Of the friends I know, every single one of us can cook, and whilst it is true that we are emotional people, I highly doubt any of their boyfriends spend 10+ hours a week dealing with that, nor did mine, nor do we, as actual women, spend that amount of time just “dealing with silly female emotional issues”… what would that even look like? I probably cry thrice a month at most, and I think that is pretty normal, and it usually lasts less than five minutes. I don’t know w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 01:21 AM |
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