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Believe.... So if someone comes up to you believing they will die if u dont become their free slave or smth, you are obligated to be one? Besides, in the island situation, doing labour for someone who is barely contributing herself puts your own survival at risk so. Maybe he believes he will die if he keeps on helping a damsel?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 03:32 AM
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If both are contributing towards their survival equally then OP's scenario doesn't make sense. Him withdrawing from helping her would also mean he wouldnt be getting her help which will in turn be detrimental to his own survival. If its not detrimental to his survival but only her own survival then they werent equally contributing. One needs the other more, hence the leverage to make demands
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 07:20 PM
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Not really, how many relationships or marriage have u seen where the girl earns the money and the guy barely does anything to contribute? Its pretty much the same thing here in the situation OP presented. She is doing significantly less than the guy to contribute to their overall survival
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 03:31 PM
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Alot of men end their lives too because they are overworked. Or the work they do is hazardous and they get killed due to it. Sex isnt the only painful thing in the world you know, working all day in a blue collar job is also awful and its the same choice for those men too, either do it or not have their basic needs met. So why should she get to live comfortably without doing anything while only the man works? If she doesnt want to have sex, she can do what the man does and perform labor. Either …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 03:15 PM
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If both were doing equal labor themselves, then they both can survive on their own (or both will die). The situation op presented clearly had the man doing more labor and then he set a price for that extra labour
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 02:40 PM
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Lmao so if a person comes to you and pretty much asks that u cover all the daily basic cost for their food, shelter, clothing etc without getting anything in return and u refuse, you should be charged with murder if they happen to die
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 02:36 PM
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Bruh men need to have good looks or status to be able to even go on a date and showcase their banter skill
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 11:50 AM
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Well, there is a reason why most relationship dont last ig. If everyone acted like how they did before a relationship or during honeymoon phone, there would likely never be any significant problem 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:23 PM
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If they are pressuring u to do something u dont want then u can just leave them. A girl can say she isnt in it for the money and later pressure the guy to spend money on her or say she has high libido and later refuse to have sex with him. In those cases the guy is free to leave too. It is pretty common for either people to lie before a relationship or later change their mind on certain things
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:20 PM
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I mean, you can state what u want and dont want in the beginning of the relationship but as it goes on, you do have the right to change your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:50 PM
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9 is different than 10. Not completely different like the commenter said. No it's not. That's a lie y'all tell to make yourselves feel better. But it's not accurate. Most people agree that dating apps is mostly good for hookups and it is a known fact that a woman can easily get hundreds of matches while a man would struggle to just get one.... So no, its not a lie. Even average women would outlandish standards can get laid through those apps because even a high smv male is willing to have sex wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:45 PM
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What even is a low quality dick lol. If a woman is looking to hook up with 6'6 ultra rich chads or smth, then yeah her odds are low. If she considers anything below that low quality despite her being average too.... It just proves she is hypergamous and the average guy has alot more difficulty getting laid because average woman considers him low quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:39 PM
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You can take pride in the fact the woman still let u have sex with her lol, not all guys get that privilege Also n count isnt about if u were bad at it or not. If u had sex its an n count, good or bad
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:28 PM
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Thats totally fine lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:26 PM
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Why would you be upset about not having to do something? One party is upset the other party isnt doing something for them because thats how the commenter defined boundaries You also mention a trade but are you considering that a woman may not want to be indebted to you in the way you describe? So why should a man do favors for her if she isnt willing to do anything in return?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 04:01 PM

If you were hooking up, you werent in the friendzone, you were in the friends with benefits zone. Most men would love that, or atleast love that more than a friendzone
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 08:05 AM
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But would the reverse be true? You want her help to move and she says no? Can a man get pissed at her the same way she can get pissed at him? Usually men dont need help from women when it comes to physical labor, so lets take another example. You help her move, or with her car or her plumbing or whatever and in return you ask her to cook a delicious meal for you, but she says no. Then can u get pissed? Im willing to bet you are gonna get labelled a misogynist if u do
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 04:15 AM
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Ok first off, you arent being pregnant, breast feeding, having a child and raising it all on the first date, heck chances are you probably are never gonna do all that for that man ever. I never get this argument women bring up as if they are doing all that biological stuff with all the men they date with. Most women do that with one man, so why do they expect all the other men to pay for that too? I would rather save up money to spend it all on one woman rather than waste it all on 100s of them …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 01:59 PM

Yeah sure, tell that to women that dating for them is alot easier cause they can easily get a guy 2 leagues above them and see how much pushback you get from them. Either your perspective is false or women just like to complain about the dating scene when its fine for them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 08:40 PM
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Could have just asked what do you men think of this, instead of what do u "not all men" crowd think of this. You saying that pretty much forced every men to defend the "not all men" part and shifted the focus
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:37 AM
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Just read your title, you are addressing the post to "not all men" crowd which probably implies you are not a part of it. If you aint part of "not all men" crowd, which is basically saying not all men are bad, then the only other group u can be is the in "all men" crowd
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:31 AM
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The commenter isnt from orozo... Do you want every nation on earth to invade Nigeria or smth? If so, that is a solution too but unless u dont want other nations to be involved, only the government there can fix it. The only thing other nation can do is provide refuge ig Where did I call every man a rapist? That was all you The op framed the post towards "not all men" crowd implying there exists "all men" crowd which op would be a part of.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:28 AM
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Not one one has sat and said "wow. This is horrible. Thanks for telling me." Not one Of course they wont because have you read your own post? Just read the title and its enough to know you are trying to push some sort of narrative or attack the men who werent even involved. You didnt frame your post as news, rather as an agenda to say all men are bad. If your post was simply posted on news subreddit as a news to what happened, i guarantee you most comments would be very empathetic from both men …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:20 AM
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The way you defend yourself is by calling every men rapist? Every other men who didnt commit rape, rapist? Atleast the commenter is trying to offer a real solution instead of trying to shift the blame on someone else because you couldnt even bother to think of a solution
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:12 AM
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If vast majority of men didnt care about rape, then there would literally be no laws making it illegal, there would be 0 guys in prison for rape. You cant claim we live in Patriarchal society where men make all the rules and also say men dont care about this and that when there are clearly rules against. Either women made those rules, proving patriarchy isn't real at all or men in power made those rules, hence proving they care
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:05 AM
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And what exactly do you want us to do that would classify as condemning it? I could say those men are awful and deserve the death penalty and that is what always say to such cases but you would still be saying all men are scum bags regardless. Do you expect us to drop everything and go stop those men halfway across the planet? Or do you expect us to turn ourselves in because of what they did?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 11:59 PM

How is it a snap judgement? By the point you have gotten to know each others body count, you are most likely already kind of close. You dont ask someone who you barely even know their body count, do you? If anything women judging a man based on his income is more of a snap judgement If you are talking about looks tho, its not just a man thing. Women make judgement based on a mans looks too. Probably even more
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 09:58 AM
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Men are sexist asshole with zero decorum and zero social skills with each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:39 AM
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There is no right or wrong here, like every business deal, you get to weigh your options and decide whats more valuable. If she doesnt think the man and the relationship is worth going through the trouble of what he is asking, she can leave. If he doesnt think the satisfaction he could get from what he is asking is worth ruining the relationship, he will stop asking. Simple as that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:44 PM
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You are the one who has a problem with 4chan. Thats fine. What im saying is the point still stands if u ignore the 4chan part and just read the reddit part
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:18 PM
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What are u talking about? You can completely ignore the green text and just focus on the reddit post, but since it doesnt align with your world view ig you are not gonna give any credence to that either, are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 01:49 PM
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They pressure them into doing them. Is he holding you hostage or smth? If not then just leave. If he is pressuring you to do something you dont want then just leave, its not that deep
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 01:37 PM
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Not true. Given the same amount of effort the stronger or smarter person will always edge out the other one, by definition. Would you argue, then, that it's pointless to even try to improve in those areas too? Yes if the smarter person will put same effort as the other person, they will have an edge. But learning a thing, or weight lifting isnt a competitive thing. You can learn something and get good at it even if someone else is already good at it. But thats not true for dating, since its a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 10:22 AM
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Nope. It definitely takes effort. It's not moving mountains. It definitely is if you are trying to get a girl with it. Developing a personality isnt some special power only ugly guys have. Every guy thats your competition is doing it, even the ones who already look a lot better than you. What less attractive guys need is to develop it alot faster than others... And good luck developing a personality a girl likes when alot of girls dont want to flirt with u because of your looks everybody has alw…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:18 PM
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Dumber person would study more, get the same results as a smarter one. Weaker person would train more, get the same result as a stronger one. What does an unattractive person have to do to get the same level of treatment as an attractive person? Be funny harder? Shower 10 times a day? I want to hear it, what action do you recommend an ugly guy to take, thats not something like "be funny, be charming" etc because such vague advice might as well be equivalent to moving mountains. And im also not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 06:49 PM
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If being funny, interesting, and charming is the same as "moving mountains," you might have just hit on your problem. It kind of is? You think a person can just magically become funny, interesting and charming overnight? That takes a lot of effort, especially the charming part since that heavily relies on your looks too. And even then its not a guarantee that you will succeed Yep. Welcome to reality where hot people have an easier time dating. We've all been here awhile. That reality is the blac…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 06:07 PM
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You said hot men can treat women poorly and would still get their love and admiration and then average men or below average men would have to put alot more effort into getting women Thats just seems like a lose lose situation to the not so hot men then, having to move mountains to get a gf all the while you know that she would give it her 200% for a hotter guy who would put a fraction of the effort you put. Thats just blackpill, but instead of never getting a gf, you do get her but for a way hig…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 05:20 PM

It was more along the lines of the guy questioning her about what she has done before. If he keeps asking you questions you dont want to answer, you are free to leave him. Or, you know, do what a lot of women do and lie about it. But dont complain if he also lies about something you find important but he doesnt. I don't care what sex acts they have done before. Sure but u do care about something else too right? And if he doesnt fit that criteria, it makes you insecure?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 03:40 PM

I thought u made the post assuming she shared her past experience to her bf and all the things she has done? If she hasn't or has lied about it, then why even have this debate? It's literally none of his business what sex she has done before. Why even be in a relationship if nothing is each other's business? Lets not ask each other anything i guess. And its not a men thing either, plenty of women ask about their mans past too
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 03:10 PM

No one owes anyone anything. She doesnt want to do something she did with her ex, thats fine. Its your choice. But he is also allowed to feel like he is less than your ex or that you were more attracted to him. And he is allowed to leave that relationship because of it. Now dont try to say how he shouldnt feel that or whatever. It would be like him saying how you should try to feel comfortable performing a sex act you are not comfortable with. People cant change how they feel about certain situa…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 02:23 PM
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Someone classifying guys into hookup and husband material is definitely someone familiar with casual sex. Its only logical that someone she is willing to risk alot for a quick sex is someone she is more attracted to than someone she says she is attracted to but isn't willing to put the same risk through
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 05:57 PM
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But the other guy who u also find very attractive AND willing to jump into bed.... That guy is more attractive to you. And if you had casual sex in the past, its basically admitting the husband material guy is still less attractive in comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 03:23 PM
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But women dont have casual sex with some random hobos, heck even an average guy would struggle alot to get casual sex. Women mostly only have casual sex with hot guys. That just proves those guys are more desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 02:01 PM

But, she's not consenting to getting pregnant. Which can only happen if he let's his sperm in. She is tho... If she is consenting to unprotective sex, she is consenting to being pregnant too. She isnt immune to accountability just because she doesnt have a penis. If she fears pregnancy so much, dont consent to unprotected sex, or just sex 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 08:14 PM

Because they both consented to unprotected sex? If he removed protection mid act, then sure it is rape and it already does get treated as such i think
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:31 PM

We are not just talking about casual sex tho, could be with a long term partner too. And i agree it is stupid to have unprotected sex with anyone if u dont want a kid, or especially an std if its with a stranger. But its in no way rape when both party consented and in no way should be punished as such
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:30 PM

Punished? Is wearing a condom punishment? What? No, im saying he shouldnt be punished by law if they agree on unprotected sex and she got accidentally pregnant There shouldn't be the option of consenting to unprotected sex in the first place. That's the point. Condom usage should be automatic. The norm. The default. Lmao, so you want to dictate how other people have sex? 🤣 You are just being ridiculous at this point Not if he chose to not put a condom on. That's not an accident. And his ejaculat…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:26 PM

Like i said, if she is not aware of that, thats just extreme illiteracy on her part, why should the guy be punished for that, should he just start assuming every girl is a dumbass and give her the basic sex ed lesson when she consents to unprotected sex? Again how is this related? Not telling ur husband u had sex with someone else too when u got pregnant is a choice. Unwanted pregnancy after having consensual sex is not a choice, its an accident that carried a risk
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:01 PM

If she consents to protected sex and he does unprotected sex anyways, then sure, thats rape But if she consents to unprotected sex and gets pregnant, thats not rape. That's just extreme illiteracy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:35 PM

They do tho? What are u talking about? Ok considering that they dont, if paternity fraud is punishable, not paying child support should be too
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:26 PM

The woman did consent to sex tho? So how can it be rape, especially if she consented to unprotected sex? How is this even related to paternity fraud?? Does the woman who slept with someone other than her husband just forget that she slept with someone?? Are u really gonna argue that cheating is an accident just like how uncontrolled ejaculation or failure of a condom is an accident??
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:06 PM

Thats stupid, any man who is suspicious can just do the test himself. The only thing the state should do is punish the woman if found guilty of paternity fraud. Simple
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:03 PM

Should we also then jail fathers who abandon their kids? They already do it, those who dont pay child support get jail time
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 01:36 PM

Oh please, she definitely knows who the father is. Even if not exactly sure, she definitely knows she had sex with someone other than her husband and then conceived a child. It should definitely be charged as a crime So again, what are we doing with the kid? Foster care, women call men who have cheated some of the most vile things. Same should be said about women who cheat too. Why would u want a vile person to raise a kid? Or if u are so against the mom going to jail, you could have the court t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 11:36 AM
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Being drunk doesnt excuse most of the other things people do, why should it be any different when it comes to casual sex? Most women have a problem with guys sleeping with prostitutes or if they have slept with other guys and wont date a guy who has done those in the past. If the guy says, oh i only did that when i was drunk, i wouldnt have done it sober.... But i still got drunk and did it multiple times after... You think any girl would look past that because he was drunk? When people are drun…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 05:14 AM
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Except it kind of is tho. No matter how much people deny, people do compare their past experience with the present one. The one with more partners gets to compare much more than the one with significantly less partners and people tend to derive a sense of superiority from these comparisons. So the only time it is fair is when both have similar history.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:49 AM
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So if a man took his ex on super expensive dates, gave her expensive gifts, took her on fancy trips etc but for his current girl, he just does what any average guy does, just normal dates, inexpensive gifts and barely any trips even though he is very capable of doing expensive stuffs with her like he did with ex. Do you think the girl wont think he is less attracted to her than his ex? Do u think society would still call her insecure when she does think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:33 AM
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If he is a 6/10, he is still not getting casual sex from a 3/10 lol. Atleast not without some form of commitment, but the fake promise of commitment to get sex wouldnt be very ethical if that concerns u
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:25 AM
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If your date isnt willing to have sex with u even after 4 or 5 dates even though she has had one night stands and casual sex in the past, then it is a major indicator she isnt attracted to you. People want to gaslight others and even themselves that it isnt the case by calling it insecurity and whatnot... But its pretty obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:13 AM
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Sure, it doesn't make sense to care about the sexual history of your date if you also have plenty of it. The divide is when one member has plenty of it and the other doesn't even come close. Thats when it matters
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:07 AM
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Why men think its attractive to sleep with many women while treating them as disposable, well personally i dont think that, however i do think being tall, being rich and being hot is attractive for women and those men are the ones who have a lot of options, not the other way around where men who have alot of options are seen as attractive lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 06:35 PM
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Its not something for me to answer, im not attracted to men, its not for me to answer why some traits are attractive or not. All i can do is observe women dating and sleeping with shitty men who treat them as disposable and conclude that a significant portion of women still find men like that attractive despite their shitty behavior. Either that behavior is attractive to women or behavior doesnt really matter and there are other factors at large If your question is, why date any guy if they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 01:10 PM
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How about women just not giving any attention or having sex instantly with men who dont give a shit about them? The only reason they get to act that way is because women allow them to. Women put their rose colored glasses on for attractive men and completely lower their guard. I mean, you do realize how desirable you are and what you can get away with is dictated by the other party right? How hard is it to have self respect and not try to get with someone who is treating you as disposable 🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 12:10 PM

How is it hypergamous if the top percent of men is getting with the top desired percent of women?? Sure guys like tobey and leo are old, but they are rich af. Women value money when it comes to long term relationship and value looks when it comes to casual sex. They got the money part, looks part is debatable cause they are old afterall. So atleast when it comes to relationship they are in the top percent
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 09:46 AM
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Does it even matter for the point op is trying to make? I mean, sure it may be staged and sure, women may not throw themselves to that extent as shown in the video. But there are definitely signals that women give that could usually be noticed by the guy or other people. Even women say that they do give such signals to guys she is attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:42 AM
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I have seen a lot more posts from women saying how men should go to war and start dying again than i have seen posts about men saying women need to be raped or murdered. In fact I don't think i have ever seen any such post from men because usually they get quickly removed by the platform Incel communities mostly just talk about how looks is what matters the most, you judge the entire community based on the few that have said detrimental things about women but when people judge the entire feminis…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 03:16 PM
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Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 01:48 PM
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It's not always in what's said or unsaid. Do you expect people to read minds? If a yes is said, its a yes until a no is said.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 09:27 AM
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Sex is sex, once the act is over, sex is over. If u didnt find it pleasurable during the act because he didnt do certain things that would indicate love or respect, then its just bad sex for you. You didnt get used, you just had bad sex. Ig sure, you can still regret picking a man who was not what u were expecting but it simply cant be called used. If u did find it pleasure but you are still expecting mutual love and respect after the act is over, then u are literally treating it as a reward. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 08:37 AM
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Consent given when there were no threats made that could potentially harm a party is still a consent. Eg, a guy threatening a girl saying anything from killing/hurting her or her family to getting her fired from job, or releasing sensitive pictures etc if she doesnt have sex with him. Thats coercion A guy saying he wont have a relationship with her if she doesnt have sex with him is not coercion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 08:22 AM
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If they wanted a reciprocal relationship, saying they regret having sex or feeling used implies that they were using sex to get a relationship, mutual, reciprocal, whatever kind it is but they didnt get it, and hence the regret or feeling used. Unless you caught an std or smth, and sex was truly a mutual act without hoping to gain anything else, what is there for regret or feeling used? You both used each other in a consensual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 04:58 AM
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Women keep saying sex isnt a reward but then regret having sex once they realize it didnt lead to a relationship and say things like he just used me for my body and stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 02:39 AM

How would you even know what someone is fantasizing about tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:55 AM

How is it disturbing if they dont act on it? Do you think attraction is a choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:42 AM

If you dont want to date a man who would think " that girl is pretty" if you show him a picture of a girl before revealing her age to be 17 because u expect him to know her age just from her looks.... Then yeah dont date him because according to you, he is a pedophile. Good luck finding a man who has the ability to instantly tell whether a girl is 17 or 18+
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:40 AM
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Optimization for risk reduction only seems to apply to men she isnt fully attracted to tho, once a dude of her dreams gives her some attention, all that optimization gets thrown out of the window. Sure, not all women are like that but alot of them are, especially when they are young. Once they get older, some might learn to do better, but the rest just starts blaming and trashing all men despite only been done wrong by the top 10 percent she keeps ignoring the red flags for
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 02:52 AM
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The way you think is also heavily influenced by the genetics you were given and hence there is no such thing as exact same shoes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:41 AM
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But what makes Chad bad is having options. I didnt say chad is bad for having options. I said he might be bad for you if you want a serious relationship, especially if he isnt showing much signs or interest for yet and if u still pursue it. Some women throw themselves at such men thinking it might increase her odds for landing a relationship while ignoring all his shortcomings. I think for those women, telling them chad has options and is bad for you makes sense Glad you value career and educati…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:06 PM
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what did you expect, he had options we're all like that Yall dont even read my comment. Literally what i said in second paragraph is just because someone has options doesnt guarantee that they are gonna be bad. Im only talking in probabilities, and they have a higher probability of cheating or not wanting anything serious Cool you blame her You are saying she isnt partly to blame if she ignored the signs she would usually look for in a lesser valuable man? If its fair for women to blame all men …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:54 PM
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Can u even read my second paragraph? I basically said not all attractive guys are like that and how guys are only saying that after how women complain all men are trash after being rejected or treated poorly by high value men Wonder why women don't want to have kids or get married. I dont give a shit about that. I couldnt care less about kids or marriage or falling birth rates or whatever Wonder why women want a career and education Okay? I never wondered why, its a good thing for everyone And y…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:27 PM
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No i blame her when she starts blaming all men for what one guy did to her. The only reason i say women shouldnt just go after looks and status is because of the constant misandry from women who go after such men When men complain about not being able to get into relationships, people say its because they have poor personality and how women can basically see their "red flags". What happened to that ability of seeing red flags when it came to dating a rich tall guy then? Decency, she expected dec…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 02:14 PM
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Im not telling you who to choose, neither do i think the men who you are quoting in your post. Its just a fact that they are stating, people who have alot of options tend to value a single person alot less than a person who has fewer options. Its a pretty basic psychology. How you want to proceed with that information is up to you, you can proceed with caution when it comes to highly sought after men and vet them like how u should vet everyone or delude yourself into thinking you are special and…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 01:51 PM
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And can you really say that they are wrong tho? Most women have similar preference when it comes to physical and social attributes of men. Most of them want a tall guy who makes 6 figure and looks attractive too. The problem is these men are in low supply and they are in high demand, that makes it so that they have options. Now im not gonna say that just because they have options all of them will treat you poorly or whatever but i will say women shouldnt be surprised if you arent their priority …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 01:13 PM
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I dont think any guy has ever complained about getting to have sex with women, maybe they complain that sex wasnt as good but not the fact they got it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 06:42 PM
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They were still attractive enough to have sex with, that bar isnt very high for most men. They werent attractive enough for a committed relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:48 PM
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If all you want to do is enjoy their company, then just be friends. Im not going on dates just to enjoy their company and make friends, like most people im going on dates to get into a relationship.... And believe it or not, sex is important for a relationship, atleast for me and majority of people. If i dont see any interest on a sexual relationship from the woman im going on date with, then there is no point for me to continue cause i was not there to look for friends, i already have enough
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 03:41 PM

You dont really even have to go that far, most straight women wouldnt even date bisexual guys, let alone be in a open relationship where they are sleeping with other men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:20 PM

While im pro choice and believe abortion should be legal, calling pro life people misogynist is pretty far fetched imo, especially since there are alot of pro life women too. People can be pro life because they genuinely believe a fetus is a human being and not because they hate women. If you look from their perspective, you are also taking away the choice of a baby to live after being conceived
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 06:06 AM

About getting drunk and attempting to eat his face ig
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:53 PM
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The best case scenario is that both genders only have sex in long term relationships and only marry with strong prenup agreements. But a woman who classifies guys into hookup material and husband material probably is having casual sex herself and the husband material guy is the one thats desperate enough to not even bring up prenups
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 06:32 AM
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Yeah, no matter what she thinks of you, she is still letting you hit. Why get wishy washy over it, its called casual sex for a reason. No need to get feelings involved
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 05:10 AM
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sex obsessed men. Thats supposed to be an insult? If anything, the dude who is fine with being a husband material because he is desperate for some action is more sex obsessed than the guy who has no problem getting casual sex. So no real risks Ofc its not a real risk for women And sure, casual sex does have its risks too, but atleast it goes both ways, for men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:17 PM
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Dead bedroom and divorce which has high chance of wiping away half your asset
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 05:53 PM
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Yeah? Its just a hookup, you do the deed, have fun and go your separate ways, no need to take her opinions about u too personally
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 05:44 PM
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At a much higher cost, being a husband carries a lot more responsibility. Being single and still getting to have sex without any responsibility or the risk that comes from being a husband, now thats a far more desirable situation for most young men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 05:37 PM
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All those activities are fun, im not saying i dont enjoy doing them, most men do enjoy doing them... What is not fun is having to pay for someone else too. But they will still do it if they think its gonna get the girl to like him and eventually be in a relationship, thats what courting is. And the only time it is worth it will be if the guy gets girl, it doesnt matter how much fun the guy enjoyed doing those activities, at the end of the day he just spent hundreds of dollars for the privilege o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:34 PM
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But the thing with courting is that, even after all the money and effort you spend, you might not get a favorable result. Like you said, there needs to be a baseline attraction, but if the only way for a guy to know the girl has baseline attraction towards him or not is by spending hundreds of dollars, going on multiple expensive...... Then sure courting is a strategy to get a relationship, just like how buying a lottery ticket is a strategy to get rich
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:10 PM
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Its a strategy for sure, but the reason many guys call it a scam is because it usually doesnt yield any result for them. If a woman likes you, just simple coffee dates and hang outs is gonna be enough. If she doesnt like you, no matter what you do, she isnt gonna be dating you. Best case scenario, she rejects u politely and you move on to the next, but the likelihood of her leading you on to enjoy the benefits she is getting from you while just dangling a potential relationship is high, that's w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:00 PM
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In what world do you see most men being comfortable with their bodies? What sort of men are close with? They get mad when they arent appreciated for it??? What? Us men call ours friend fat, short, ugly etc etc all the time as jokes and we understand we are just playing, even if its our insecurities. I jokingly called a female friend of mine fat because she was making fun of me too and all hell broke lose, even though she knows i dont actually mean it because i have reassured her countless time t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 11:50 AM
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If i dont want to date you soley because you are bisexual isnt hatred, then i dont want to date you soley because you had a promiscuous past is also not hatred.... But so many women (and some men) will call u a misogynist for that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 06:28 AM
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Exactly, OP acting like women are a minority when roughly half the world population is women 🤦‍♂️. If there is quota system for women than there should be one for men too
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 11:34 AM
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If you want more women in political or constitutional position, vote for more women politicians. If you want more women as ceos, start your own company and hire a women ceo. Quota system for women is just plain stupid. Women arent a minority group. Heck, in usa, there are more women than men. And both gender have equal civil rights. So why tf should there be a quota system? If women wanted more seat in the parliament, they can run in the election and vote for their fellow women peers And as for …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 11:31 AM
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Promiscuous women are in a high demand.... But not for a serious relationship. Promiscuous men love promiscuous women as its much easier to get her to sleep with you than a conservative woman
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:56 PM
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There isnt really anything to redeem imo. Its your body, do what you want. But what i dont like about some of these women with high n count is the fact that they think their partner should be fine with it, even when their partner has a low n count. If their partner who has a low n count and they dont want to continue dating her because of her high n count, she and alot of women will call him insecure, immature, misogynistic etc etc... They will try to gaslight the guy into thinking he is the pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 01:54 PM
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"even if we ignore looks/ and height" Well thats the thing tho, most women dont ignore that. All the qualities you mentioned after that, kindness, funny etc, women look for those in men that are physically attractive. Im not saying women are wrong for doing that and prioritizing looks and height first whether subconsciously or consciously, its just biology and social pressure ig. But you gotta understand that it does limit the pool and when most are going after the guys from that same pool, it w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:30 AM
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When men tell women to stop being in relationship with abusive men, they freak out and say how its never in their control, but you expect men to not even be around certain kinds of women? People gotta interact and work together with all kinds of people, its simply not possible for most to avoid people you dont jell with. And besides, its not like its written in peoples forehead if they are "dysfunctional" or not, most of the time you will only know after some interactions and even if u distance …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:25 AM
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I did read your post, i just found it silly how you took something so innocent like wanting to be desired for who you are (something women say too btw) and made it seem like only the most awful of guys would want that. Also about sex being reward to bad guys... I think people say that mostly because of how many women say they regret casual sex or sleeping around. Hearing these women say how much sleeping around messed them up or how they got used because they slept with these men... It doesnt re…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 07:47 PM
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So you are saying men should be happy knowing his girl only wants him because of what he can provide?.... Okay, sure, then i guess you dont have a problem when men only want women for her youth, beauty and her willingness to have sex with him right? I mean, if men cant wish to be desired for who he is, then why should women get to wish to be desired for who she is? Its only fair..... Her personality? Her dreams, interests?? Pfftt who cares, she wants me for what i can provide, i will want her fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 07:27 PM
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So telling people to make better decisions and making them see where they could be wrong is the same as beating them up physically?? Lmao alright then How is it hating women to tell them to pick better and leave abusive relationship? What do u even want men to do tell you? Do you just want them to be like "yeah every men on earth are scum and it was definitely not your fault for ignoring all the red flags and staying with him because he was 6ft+ and makes 300k :), in the future dont look for qua…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:58 PM
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Post like these are so silly and it reminds me of the what came first, chicken or the egg question. Maybe the men you have met in your life had encounters with women who were not empathetic and kind towards them and just like you they got mad at the entire gender and then proceeded to lose their empathy for them? And now you are doing the same thing. And about that situation where men are telling you to choose better...., men say that to other men too. I have a friend who was in a relationship w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:36 PM
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Since when does marriage guarantee sex in the modern world? Lmao. Such a stupid ragebait post
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 08:07 AM
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When people say younger person in this scenario they are still referring to someone who is 18+ atleast, it is illegal to engage with sexual activity with anyone under that age in most modern societies for the reason that children cant make major decisions nor can anyone's else make such decisions for them. So dont try to bring a child into this for the sake of your argument If the person is over the age of 18 and starving , homeless and instead of getting a job, they choose to be a rich guys gf …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 07:19 PM
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But if the older person has structural advantages and a younger person dates them just to use those advantages to better their own life.... It means the older person is getting exploited, how is it the other way around? Workplace and school is different because the manager can have the junior fired if they dont date or the company is gonna struggle if the manager promotes people based on who is the most attractive and sexually submissive... Thats why its illegal. Outside of those places, the old…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 05:02 PM
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Lets assume he did, and the girl said not until few months into the relationship while the guy clearly knows she isnt the type to hold off sex that long with other guys. If he is still sticks around going on dates, paying fully for it and giving her gifts and what not, he is a beta buxx, dance monkey whatever 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 04:21 AM
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Not really deserving, but good liars do get what they want from life more often than honest people. Thats just how it is. 🤷‍♂️ Sure no one wants to get lied to tho, but if she is a good liar, its gonna be hard to tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 04:15 AM
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Yeah i believe, thats why im choosing better too than a woman who doesnt show much signs of attraction or only does after grand gestures and simping meanwhile she is or was hooking up with chads for little to nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 04:12 AM
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And why would anyone want to be with someone who vets them so much? Keeping your distance too much for too long because you are vetting me would make me think you are not interested which would in turn make me lose interest. Its that simple, for me atleast.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 07:06 PM
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There is a difference between settling and making it obvious that you are settling. If you are making it really difficult for your partner to get any affection or sex but u had no problem giving it quickly to other guys in the past, then you are making it obvious that you are settling. The guy doesnt despise relationships if he walks away from this. He just despises a relationship with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 04:43 PM
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Its a revenge fantasy some red pill guys have. "She rejected me when i was young and broke, now that im rich and muscular, im gonna reject her" It usually doesnt work because by the time he is rich and muscular, she is probably already settled with someone else or well... he never really gets to be that rich before well into his late 40s or 50s That being said, i assume its still very upsetting to a women when a guy she does want to marry says he doesn't want to marry her lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 12:15 PM
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Why are we excluding them? The same reason we exclude muslim terrorists from the rest of muslims? Because generalization of a whole group based on the action of few members isnt fair to the rest? to target much poorer people with the intent of attracting them with money. But the same can be said the other way, the women are targetting men for their money and visa too. As someone from a third world country myself i can tell you these women arent dumb. They know what the risk is and what they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 11:25 AM
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They're still part of passport bros, and the question is why they receive hate. Well, that's part of the reason. Yes lets generalize everyone in a group as pedos because some of them are pedos
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 10:57 AM
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You have never seen some people with those same combination except for poor social skills maybe get sex and even relationship in the west? Heck, i could argue some far worse people in the west are having sex because of their good looks or wealth. And besides these guys arent having sex with you, they are having sex with other women who might not care or have your criteria as requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 10:52 AM
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Its illegal in most places Risk of contracting STDs Because its illegal, you gotta risk going to some shady places sometimes. There is a huge risk of getting robbed or attacked. Men who are very desperate for sex but cant get a casual sex partner or a relationship already do go tho. Most just arent desperate enough to take those risks
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 02:55 PM
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Unless someone lied about STDs or something its still consensual. Saying yes to sex in the hopes of getting something else in the future but not getting it doesnt make it non consensual. You trusted a stranger and got defrauded. Also, if you say women are used after having sex with a man, do you also agree to men calling women who sleep around alot used?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 03:51 AM
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why did he have to pretend that it was something more than sex? Because it increases his chances? Women agree to sex in the hopes of getting something, usually a relationship but the man doesnt fulfill his end of the bargain. And i get it, its not fair, its essentially the equivalent of being scammed if he promised a relationship. But the woman in this scenario tried to use sex as a bargaining chip to get something from a man, who is more or less a stranger usually. She trusted a stranger where …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 10:14 AM
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But both of them had consensual sex, so both got to enjoy sex, why is the only one party being used? Is it because he promised to be in a relationship, after having sex? But it is well known that most relationships don't last and throughout the relationship you are frequently having sex too. So even if the guy lives up to his promise and stays in a relationship, which ends after a year for whatever reason, you are at a similar point of just having a one night with a guy who leaves u after sex? S…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:35 AM
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He ONLY wants to be her sexual partner. I dont get the use of the term "only" here. Do you see your gf or bf as ONLY a sexual partner? I assume most people also see them as a very close friend AND a sexual partner So no, most people dont want their friend to be reduced to only a sexual partner when they confess. They want to be one of their closest friend and ALSO a sexual partner. But a friendship where u feel more closer to them, think of them more highly while they feel or think the same of y…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 04:18 AM
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What you say is true, for the top 5 percent or maybe even 10 percent behavior wont really matter, but i think the bottom margin is more bigger, maybe around 20 percent. No matter how well behaved and nice they are, it wont really matter, their dating success would still be close to nill. But the thing is, lets say u are a guy within the middle range and you are a good dude, you have a decent personality and you are nice to everyone around you, but at the same time, there is anothee dude in the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:02 AM
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Because a woman has never cheated on a man or committed paternity fraud ever in the history of ever 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 05:45 PM
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Cause with paying an escort or a hooker for sex, you are more or less guaranteed to get laid, but paying for the first few dates... statistically you are much more likely to get ghosted or rejected if u are an average guy. Men shouldnt respect every women as a woman, they should respect them as human beings. And You dont pay for someones meal to show respect do you? Also who decided that every womans body should be unaffordable and priceless? You? Do you have the right to every womans body on pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 05:41 PM
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Mental health is relevant to everything in life. So does that mean everything should come with a side of professional therapist to provide mental health support?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 03:18 PM
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Yeah, complaining and getting a man way above her league to get into a relationship is also settling for the man. What if he also only want to use her for sex and while providing no emotional or financial support because he is in a relationship with a woman who he doesnt find that attractive? At this point, both genders should accept being single forever or learn to lower their standards (or increase their value, but its alot harder than it sounds)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 06:12 AM
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I will admit, i have only talked to 3 women about this topic and know a few more who really gush about their celebrity crush, so yeah not really alot to go on but if its just raw unadulterated physical attraction we are talking about, i think data from dating apps can be useful in this case. Its a well-known fact that on those apps 80 percent of the women only swipe right on 20 percent of the men. Women on those apps arent really from any special subset of women either, they are just regular wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 06:02 AM
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No, i understand. I dont think guys should be so desperate that he is willing to be in a relationship that involves no intimacy either.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 05:17 AM
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If they are fine being single then yeah,sure more power to them. But lower your standards is also mostly said to women who complain they cant find a man because she has her standards off the charts. And if such a woman really wants a relationship, then maybe should learn to be intimate with someone who is somewhat less than her ideal man she sees all over social media? If she cant then....well stop complaining ig, that is the only solution if she cant increase your smv herself or isnt willing to
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 05:15 AM
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The conventionally attractive. All women I have talked to say how much they are into tall guys and how much they crush over huge celebrities who are, like i said conventionally attractive. Even if one woman's ideal man looks different from another, they are still within the top 10 percent of the guys atleast. If thats what they need in order to have sex, there arent gonna be a lot of men around for every girl to be in a monogamous relationship. Sure, guys also have celebrity crush but we are not…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 05:04 AM
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Except a relationship without intimacy isnt really a relationships. But the thing with most womens standard for physical characteristics is its all the same and maybe like 20 percent of the guys meet it. If they are wanting a relationship with a man like that without meeting his standard for physical characteristics, she might as well just be prepared to be single for life. I do agree that guys who beg a woman for a relationship are stupid. It shifts the power dynamic away from equality by a hug…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 04:30 AM
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There are soooo many men asking women to lower their standards without realizing that the relationship I described is what they’d be getting. You are right about that tho, some men think a girl can just force an attraction on him by looking past appearance and who he is as a person, but imo that is just very stupid. These are the so called "nice guys" influenced heavily by the blue pill ideology. But i reckon for them too, when they want a relationship, they want the full package. If they get no…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 04:19 AM
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I feel like its usually women who want men way out of their league to settle for them. Since the man with a high SMV is willing to have casual sex with any women who is willing too, alot of women think it means they actually like them and want to be in a relationship with them Average guys dont even get attention from an average women, it doesnt make sense that they are expecting 10/10 baddie to settle for them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 03:32 AM
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So what you are saying is if women lowered her standards and dates a man who isnt her type, she is gonna make it obviously clear by never being intimate? If so then why should the man even date her and be in a relationship like that? It would be better to be lonely than to be disliked in your own relationship And with so many women having the same "type", which is 6ft+ tall, makes 6 figures, sharp jawline etc. im guessing only like 5 percent of the guys meet that criteria. Should 90 percent of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 03:23 AM
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You are right tho, men should also choose better and not simp or wife up any hot girl that gives him attention without really knowing her
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 12:47 AM
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Having had desires in the past isnt beta buxxing tho, showing that you have desires through your actions (like having fucked tons of hot people of the opposite gender) and still choosing a partner who doesnt align with that desire for security is what beta buxxing is By your logic, 90 percent of people are beta buxxing their partners because at one point they all fantasized an absolute greek god or a goddess in their sexual fantasy even if most of them never got to fulfill it irl. Also on the la…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:47 PM
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Because like it or not, humans are also animals. No matter how smart we are, we can't beat our natural programming and its in our programming to want to spread our genes. You thinking its weird is like a cow thinking its weird for a hyena to eat other animals instead of grass. Maybe its not in your programming but it is in most other people Sure, some people dont care and will look after someone else's kid, but it usually only because they failed to have kids themselves, either due to circumstan…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:27 PM
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Except most guys didnt have sex with the hottest women in their youth 🤷‍♂️ Girls that beta bux the guy that they marry are the girls that had sex with alot of hot guys without even getting commitment in return but will make the man they want to marry wait for sex and in extreme cases give them the responsibility to raise another mans kid. Their point of reference is alot more than just pictures or fantasies. They had the real deal, alot of it. Do you really think an average guy has the same amou…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 03:06 PM

Cheaper to just get hookers at that point. Funding the baby of your wife's ex, the wife who doesnt even like you sounds more expensive than a hooker who will pretend to like you for a lot less money
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:46 PM

Cheaper to just get hookers at that point. Funding the baby of your wife's ex, the wife who doesnt even like you sounds more expensive than a hooker who will pretend to like you for a lot less money
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:46 PM

It totally does makes sense However it also does makes biological sense for a man to not want to pour resources on a child that isnt his genes. Honestly, this is why i say all men should do dna testing at birth, with each of these posts it only confirms my belief that women are unable to overcome their biological urges and they will do what makes sense biologically. So why should men suppress their biological urges to confirm the paternity of the child? 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 01:40 PM
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You say sex isnt a big enough need and society doesnt have any obligation to provide it yet you say yourself how high the demand is, so it obviously is a big enough need. Society isnt obligated to anything, whether u call it a need or desire, when there is high enough demand, people are gonna make the supply to capitalize on it. Nothing is a right others must fulfil as a labour, people do it to get something else in return lol They cry themselves to sleep at night after being touched by you. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 05:41 PM
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It may not be a physical need like food and water, but it is a psychological need. No point in working so hard to go through life if you are gonna be single, undesired and lonely. Atleast with prostitutes or escorts, you can use your hard earned money to pretend to feel desired to keep on going with life. It’s like people “choosing” to sell a kidney. It is a choice tho? Why the quotation lol. The person can very well just work a regular job too. If i lost my job tomorrow and cant find another on…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 05:02 PM
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Sex is a need for alot of people. It might not be a need for you, but that doesnt mean no one else needs or desires it. And also alot of industries thrives on poverty, like the ones that pay minimum wage. If it was better regulated, maybe the minimum wage would have gone up or the unfair practices would be minimized. You are right tho, it is an act of economic desperation but it is still a free choice. Maybe calling sex work a career is not the correct way tho. It would be like calling working a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:18 PM
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As a completely side issue, I’m fascinated that men can even enjoy sex with someone who will only do it for money. I dont think it can ever be as enjoyable as sex with someone u truly love, but if u cant find anyone who will love you, just sex is probably the next best thing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 03:38 PM
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Im not saying its a risk free fun career option, its just a career option, like any other career option, some of which also has its own risks. Infact, alot of factory works and industries had very deadly risk back in the day. How did people deal with it? By making laws and regulations that minimized those risks, not by removing entire industries, not by punishing those that choose to work or consume services from those industries. Ofc a woman wouldnt make the choice if she had money, infact if s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 03:29 PM
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People for money is how our world works tho, you know anyone that is willing to work or give out their services for free? "Oh but sex work is different.." yeah ofc its, so is working the sewers different than managing a company, waiting tables different than solving complex mathematical problems. And if there is hurt involved, just stop doing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:24 AM
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Its the particular woman's choice whether she wants to sell her body or not, men being lonely doesnt entitle them but it does create the demand, whether or not a woman wants to capitalize on it or not, it should be upto her
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:10 AM
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Yeah, kind of Its better to not be in a relation where she is like your 2nd or 3rd pick, but you are like her 30th or smth
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 07:04 AM
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Wdym customers? You are saying women in the third world countries see western men as customers and that even if they do something bad, those women wont report them because they want to keep the flow of western men coming? Okay ig? I mean, if they arent reporting them or dont want to do anything about it, thats on them tho. What are the men who genuinely just want to find a partner supposed to do if the women themselves dont care enough to report the perpetrators lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 01:57 PM
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If they arent raping kids, how are they a part of the problem tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 10:31 AM
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So its fine when women say shit like all men should die, all men are trash etc etc, but when men complain about women in the west that they are about to leave anyway, its suddenly not fine?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 06:09 AM
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Lol as if most of the west isnt benefitting from the economically vulnerable from countries like china where they make every product you consume for dirt cheap 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 06:06 AM
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Yeah ig that is a fair thing to be mad about but i thought in most countries it is still illegal to have sex with someone under the age of consent of their original country even if they do it outside of the country?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 06:01 AM
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Implying that they are being deceived isnt that different from implying that they are stupid lol. You are basically questioning their ability to judge a man and his intention. Alot of them do know what they are getting into and are very well aware of the risks involved. Being from a third world country myself, i know these women personally and what they say about rich men from abroad who promise them a luxurious life. Its only the western women who think that these women dont know anything bette…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 05:49 AM
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I agree that sex trafficking is a huge problem but just because some criminals take the same first few steps as a passport bro before committing a crime means all passport bros are bad? The criminals also first travel to those poor countries, does that now mean every tourist who goes there should be seen as bad as a criminal? How about we ban all tourism then, that way sex trafficking would reduce significantly Im sure there are people who genuinely want to find a partner from those countries wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 05:36 AM
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Yeah lol im also baffled by that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 04:46 AM
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First off, im from a third world country so by your logic im economically vulnerable too ig Secondly, just because someone is poor means they cant make choices for themselves? Cant u say the same thing if a huge company hires a homeless man for 8 hours a day labor then? That the company is now just preying on poor people? And that they shouldnt hire them at all now?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 05:35 PM
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Not really, as long as she isnt too shy to even put up a conversation, i dont mind a girl who is kinda shy. I couldnt care less if she can give a big speech or not
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 03:00 PM
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The title of your post is true, there isnt much denying that denying, however you dont need to list all those points because they are overshadowed by two important things women want the most, a good genetics and resources. Sure what u listed is true to some extent but its nothing if the guy doesnt have the genetics (tall, at least avg size penis, good looks etc) and wealth. But most guys dont have it and because of that for most women there is no benefit. But the same can be said for a guy with …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 11:01 AM

Giving up on anything is a freeing experience. Accepting reality that not all of us can find love and continue our gene pool but its okay because we will all die one day anyway and life itself is meaningless is what can bring comfort to alot of us. If it wasnt from the pressure from my family, i would have given up on life itself long time ago
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 07:15 PM
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This should also be said for women tho, a few men in their life were awful to them and they are out here saying kill all men or all men are trash
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 01:19 PM
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Ok, if my girl cheats on me, the things that i would ask of her would be to never talk to any other man, never leave house without permission, always cook and clean etc etc.... my demands would be extra ordinarily high if its to make up for cheating on me. Doubt any woman could follow through on it, so quicker to just break up lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 01:17 PM
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Yes, recently a female friend of mine was seeing a guy and telling me all about how he behaved and what he said on their date. From the very beginning i told her he is a red flag but she still continued seeing him. She kept talking about his behavior along the way too and i also continued saying how shady he was..... Needless to say, it ended very poorly
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 05:00 AM
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Its not the worst types of men that have easier time finding a new women, its the attractive type of men who have it easier. And because those men have more options, its more likely for them to reject women and they end up being seen as the worst type of men
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 08:50 PM
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But the same can be said for men too, they have to start over as well, and starting over for a women is alot more easier than it is for men since she has a lot more option. Even if those options arent all good, its better than the very limited option a guy has if he has to start over
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 08:48 PM
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Yeah, because what women say and how they behave always lines up 😂 "Bar is in hell" but will reject any guy who isnt 6ft, doesnt make six figures and doesnt look like a greek god
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 08:44 PM
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it's definitely a hell of a lot easier to get female attention online than from normie beckies and stacies irl. If you are an attractive dude then yeah, getting attention from women is hella easier. Not if you are an average dude. You will just be giving attention as an average guy, not really receive it tho. So the competition is the same because the competition for women also increased. Nope, option for women increased, not competition. Women are the ones who select since their standard for me…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 02:47 AM
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Women can also be disgusted by pubes lol, does it make her misandrist?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 04:25 AM
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Huh? Your fiancé just whips his dick around in public or smth? Literally google the words intimate parts and read what it says. Maybe for you your private parts.... are not so intimate and you do you, im not the type to shame, but for most of us, it is... Didnt expect it was gonna be a difficult concept for you to understand
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 03:04 AM
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Agreeing to sex =/= giving my body away. Do you know how sex works? Do you know how english works?... During sex you and your partner give access to each other's most intimate parts. That figuratively has always been called giving your body. Im not talking literally like you are a puppet on their string or smth 🤦‍♂️ We're not talking about standards. We are. When you dont accept something or someone because they dont meet a certain requirement, that is called having standards. Sex is different f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 01:26 AM
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I can't give my body away. I'd my body. It doesn't go anywhere by having sex with someone Like i said, its just a way of saying agreeing for sex. Im not talking literally giving your body away. Y'all don't feel special because a woman has had sex with someone else. That's childish. You using words like insecure or childish to shame people who have a different standard than yours is what's really childish. And yeah, not feeling special is a pretty good reason to not want to be in a relationship w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 12:32 AM
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What am I giving away? And what makes giving it easy Your body lol, just a way to say agreeing for sex and by giving it easy i mean, agreeing to sex with a man who hasnt invested time and effort into her. (Casual hooking up) No, that's childish nature. It's an egocentric toddler development nature. Its just nature. You could say the same thing about women wanting taller, attractive or richer men. Its just how womens brain function that makes them want such men. Same way how men want to commit to…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 11:52 PM
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If women really were good at vetting and only giving chance to guys who have proven to be genuinely nice and kind over a period of time instead of putting rose coloured glasses for attractive men who eventually just use them for sex cause they gave them a chance way too quickly, red pill likely wouldnt exist
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 04:41 PM
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Or maybe he doesnt want to put effort on someone who gave herself away more easily to other guys? 🤷‍♂️ Its just basic human nature, to not want to be the shmuck who puts more effort to get something that others got for much less effort
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 04:24 PM
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That should mean men should also always take men's side without looking at the actual context? Thats dumb. Its best if both men and women also consider context before taking the side of a person based on their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 03:37 AM
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Your cousin is right tho. What happens between two consenting legal adults is none of our concerns. Even if we have opinions on them, it doesnt and shouldn't matter
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:33 PM
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Acquaintances dont also know each other well. But OP said only to ask her out after you got to know them, that would make u a friend not an acquaintance
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 07:16 PM
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Because if a man tries to get to know a woman first and then ask her out, he will be accused of being friends with her only to get into her pants. So might as well make your intentions clear asap to a girl you are attracted to and just get rejected instead of wasting both your time
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 06:21 PM
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Most women aren’t in the sex trade because they want to be Most people arent in a trade because they want to be lol. Whats next? Ban all work because majority dont like what they do and do only to pay the bills?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 11:45 AM
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Legal for sexworkers but illegal for the buyers is how it‘s done in sweden. No one that is anti sex work wants to hurt the women in these situations. Thats not much different. Making it illegal for buyers mean only criminals or people who have no problem breaking laws use their services, which means there is a higher chance of abuse and other bad behavior. It also makes it harder for the sex worker to vet them beforehand and reporting it to the cops will make sure their entire client base is don…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 12:09 AM
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But whatever thats happening on that video is a laughing matter and you just blame men for behavior of such women? What you are saying is when a women becomes crazy, its mens fault, but when a man becomes crazy, its also his fault? The double standard is crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 10:34 PM
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So if a man starts acting crazy or being abusive, its the womans fault that she drove him to that point too?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 04:15 PM
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Because its unfair, its not worth the chase.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 10:15 AM
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Or maybe most women in current times are just not worth chasing after? 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 12:51 PM
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Careful about harassing you?? So they still harass you but more carefully and respectfully??
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 07:58 AM
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But what I’m pointing out is how often women are expected to preemptively soften everything, not just out of kindness, but out of fear that it will trigger defensiveness, stonewalling, or withdrawal. And you think its not the same for a man? Men generally have to be careful with their words towards their gf alot more than a woman lmao, its not even close. Heck, even with my female friends, if i make a little bit edgy joke they go off like a nuke but i make 10x more awful jokes with my guy friend…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:51 AM
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Yes, I said "even the good ones" because that’s how pervasive the pattern can feel. Or maybe the problem is you op. Maybe you are being outright disrespectful or rude to the men you were dating and they just had self respect to not want to put up with it and you considered that as being abuse? 🤷‍♂️ What do you even mean by having to walk on egg shells? You say its emotional imbalance but have you considered maybe those men were also walking on egg shells to not hurt your feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 06:04 PM
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Women are often expected to deliver feedback with extreme delicacy to avoid bruising a man’s ego, at work or even in healthy relationships Its the same expectation for a man too, to be delicate about certain things to not hurt her feelings. How delicate and about how many things greatly depends upon the person themselves tho. Its just called being respectful. For instance, saying something as simple as "I need more help around the house" can be taken as criticism rather than a request, This very…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 04:54 PM
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If she has no problem with me going to hooters and tipping 100$ dollars to the waitress there, then sure i wouldnt have a problem with her doing the same in female version of hooters. But as long as thats all she is doing and makes it clear to those waiters that she is in a relationship if they try to be too flirtatious.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 05:36 AM
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Yeah, pretty much
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 02:16 PM
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That is what the commenter in saying tho, there are hook up material girls and long term relationship material girls. So its the same, just what they want to be may not be
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 02:31 AM
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No matter the reason, the end preference is pretty similar. In both cases, they are judging the person based on their past and not as who they are in the present, not what they say or do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 11:27 AM
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I would try to help her instead by contacting domestic abuse support or the cops on her behalf or would support her if she wants to do that herself but i wouldnt want to have sex with someone who has a bf, especially if they are unhinged.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 11:17 PM
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Yeah the nature on both cases is that your partner had sex with men? Its just men have a higher tolerance. Unless by nature you mean its because its gay sex, and if thats the sole problem, wouldn't that mean women deep down disapprove of homosexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 03:10 PM
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How is it not tho? Why do men not want women who have slept with tons of men in the past? One of the reason being she might go sleep with other men Why do women not want men who have slept with other men in the past? The reason being he might go sleep with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 02:06 PM
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Movies arent accurate depiction of real life
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 02:03 PM
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Men care about the number of men she had sex with and most dont care if she had sex with a women before. (Heck some dont even care if they have sex with a woman during the relationship) Women also care about the number of men he had sex with (which in most case just 1 is more than they can handle) So in a way both have similar standards for each other lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 01:35 PM
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Sounds like your country doesnt have a problem of people feeling lonely romantically then since most of them are getting married but it has a problem of men not having friends. Thats why the solution for your country is to have more spaces for same gender friends. But thats not how it is for other countries in the west. Men there lack romantic relationship more than friendships
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 05:20 AM
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All women in relationship are being enslaved by men? Is that also how is it in your country? Also what does 92 percent marriage rate mean? Like 92 percent of all adults are married? Is your country super religious and have a system of arranged marriage? Cause my country does and most adults here are married too, but i can safely say most arent a happy marriage and divorce is still a hurdle due to societal norms. Also there is a difference between romantic relationship and friendship. Just becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 05:15 AM
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OP didnt mention resources but sure lets add resources to the mix too and I would still be fine with it, maybe less fine than not having to spend any money. Lets say in order to have sex with her i had to take her to a date, pay for it and maybe even buy some gift. Then once we had sex she ghosts me. Not the ideal situation of course, but again, the current reality for most men is being ghosted or rejected after paying for the date and gift without even getting any sex in return. So in a way, ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 04:30 AM
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Her choosing one thing for them and another for you is her perogative and choice. Yeah and its her partners choice to whether be okay with that or not. No one is saying she doesnt have the choice to have hookups or casual sex and what not. Her partners have the choice to not stay if she is making him wait when she didnt make others wait. YOUR insecurity at how you may or may not measure up to her past lovers Its not a question of how you may or may not measure up, she proves that you dont measur…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 05:36 PM
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Yeah but the thing is i do care about love and romance, but if i cant get that, the next best thing is easy casual sex 🤷‍♂️ way better than the current alternative which is nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 04:08 PM
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Amazing actually, i would hope it keeps happening with every other crush i have instead of getting completely rejected :D
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 03:54 PM
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Lol if my crush slept with me, i kind of already won. Sure after sleeping with me, she left me but most of the girls in real world dont even do that tho and just skip to the rejection part. Atleast she slept with me and love bombed me 😂. Heck, im even down to repeat the process. Can this keep happening with every other crush that i have? I develop a crush, they use me for my body and leave, rinse and repeat. I mean, what is the alternative, they just reject me without even sleeping with me? Fuck…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 03:52 PM
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Dude, this entire world is a competition, what are you talking about? Every aspect in men's life is a competition, some are just more obvious than the others. And its not insecure to think "she hooked up with some guys on the day they met but made me wait months, she must have been way more attracted to those guys than she is with me". Its just basic logic, especially considering your point how sex is risky for women. It just meant that she was so attracted to them they didnt care about the risk…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 03:19 PM
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I don't agree with this one. Is attraction all about sexual to men? What about emotional attraction? Both sexual and emotional attraction are equally important, one cant really substitute them with the other. (X) Doubt Ok? So doesn't it means that women just delay sex to all men since she should avoid pregnancy and STD and mini heartbreak? Delay for all Yeah, i dont really disagree with your post. I believe women should be careful on how quick they let a guy have sex with her. It does seem like …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 11:54 AM
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I wouldnt say not having sex with him early on when she had no problem having casual sex with other men is necessary treating him poorly, but it definitely shows that she is way less attracted to him than she was with those men she had sex with the day she met them. What i have heard from my female friends is that women have more of a risk to carry from a hookup than a man which is either pregnancy or random men being rough and causing them pain. And the other thing i have heard is woman can dev…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 10:01 AM
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But does she really have that option Most likey not, im just going along with what op said. Of course in real world, 90 percent of the things cant be bought with sex. And tbh, im not sure about if thats what op implied either
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:32 AM
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You just described capitalism tho. Of course she is gonna have to pay the unknown man money for his work lol, no one is gonna do it for free. She is welcome to fix those herself but she is gonna have to buy the tools and the knowledge from unknown men too (or unknown women), thats just called living in a society. And if you are talking about her using sexual favors as payment.... Atleast she has another option? She is also welcome to not use it if she doesnt want lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 09:07 AM
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I mean, there isnt much people can do about others mental health tbh. Sure u can be there for them and stuff but people are busy with their own life too
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:49 PM
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I didnt say being beautiful doesnt elevate a woman's value, i only mentioned wealth and fame in my reply. You dont have to tell me that they are rich and famous because of their beauty, i already know that. Beauty is the biggest factor that contributes to a woman's value for most men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 03:50 PM
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Yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 03:44 PM
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That means its the beautiful part thats carrying most of the weight, a girl who is beautiful but isnt rich and famous will still have a higher value than an ugly girl who is rich and famous.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:17 PM
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Yeah? That doesnt mean it doesnt effect your future
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:52 PM
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Being rich and famous doesnt elevate a woman's value to a man the same way it elevates a man's value to a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:50 PM
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So a high value woman to you is one who is better at hiding her past and keeping secrets from you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:48 PM
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Obviously, its a subjective opinion but i believe its an opinion a lot of guys share.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:43 PM
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A high value girl by definition doesnt involve herself in casual sex or hookup
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 11:57 AM
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And a 21 yo woman or a person who buys drugs is a poor little baby? Lmao what
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:45 AM
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You dont see how it contradicts your drug dealer analogy?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 04:50 AM
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Then why do we punish a 21 yo criminal the same way we would punish a 30 yo criminal? We dont be like oh young people make stupid decision, he robbed a bank? Let's just make him write sorry on the board 50 times. Once someone is 21+, they are responsible for their own actions in their life. Even if its a mistake, they have to take some blame and grow from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 04:48 AM
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Same with your drug dealer and buyer analogy then? Both knows what they are doing is bad for them. The buyer knows what he is getting into, just like how a 21 yo woman should know what she is getting into, she isnt a child anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 04:42 AM
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You say 21 years old aren't mature enough to make dating decisions for themselves yet your 21 friend was perfectly capable of realizing her relationship wasnt working and broke things off. Other 21 year olds should also be perfectly capable of assessing their situation too then, so why do we treat them like they cant. If things dont work out, they dont work out but that decision should be between the couples themselves once both are like 21+
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 02:55 AM
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With that same logic, a man cant be blamed for going to prostitutes. Its the prostitute's fault for creating the supply.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 02:45 AM
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A proper adult can choose who they fall for tho. A person with emotional control doesnt fall in love with someones wife or gf, doesnt fall in love with someone when they already have a gf, or doesnt fall in love with a girl knowing she is below the legal age, doesnt fall in love with someone showing all the red flags. No matter how much attractive or charming they are, because they don't let their emotional part override their logical part of the brain and can figure out who is gonna be good for…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 02:20 AM
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Im not saying they dont, but loving the kids comes after dating the mother lol. (Unless they date the mom because they love the kids....now thats a problem) But before dating the mom, if they have a choice to date a childless woman, 90 percent of men wouldnt date the single mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:04 PM
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Dude, he said from what he has seen, meaning he is talking from his own personal experience and observation. There is not gonna be any statistics to give if its personal experience and any examples wouldnt have any proof either so what even is the point of asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:43 PM
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I m just saying what the reality is for most of them 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:16 AM
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You are saying your brother is actively looking for a single mom to date? He just wants kids or he wants his own kids? I reckon most single moms in her 30s arent gonna be willing to have more kids either if he wants his own kids tho and there are still women in her early 30s who wants and are capable of having kids. And if he just wants a kid, Is he gonna be adopting them too? Because if it doesnt work out with the women, he is not gonna be having any custody for the kids nor is he gonna have an…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:11 AM
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Personality is important but isnt the only thing a person looks for in a partner. If the man is only looking at personality and nothing else like lifestyle compatibility, how much time she can give him, risk of her leaving him for the baby daddy and how much resources he will have to provide compared to other women, then he is desperate lol. My point being, if a man is confident and has other women as options, he would be sure he could get with another women of similar personality level but with…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:08 PM
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Ask any childless man, if he has the option between two women, a single mom or a childless woman for long term dating. He isnt picking the single mom if he is sensible. Even if the single mom is hot and the other girl is average. For casual hook ups? Sure. But for long term relationship, i know no man who would willingly go through the hurdles of dating a single mom
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 12:00 PM
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Yup this, plenty of desperate guys who are willing to date a single mother and even raise someone elses kid despite being childless themselves just because they cant attract anyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:10 AM
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What? You want a partner that is secretly or openly less attracted to you and shows less affection than they did with their exes?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 07:44 PM
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I never said anything about ugly men, if a girl has only slept with conventionally hot guys even average dudes arent gonna be attractive to her. But there is only limited amount of hot guys in the world, not all girls that slept with him is gonna get him. And remember, just because a guy sleeps with a woman doesnt mean he necessarily even likes her lol. A hot guy sleeping with a woman doesnt necessarily mean the girl is also hot. And hence, its not guaranteed the girl is gonna be able to make th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 07:21 PM
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So? If someone gave examples of a woman finding her man to be lying, deceptive or whatever, you wouldnt imagine yourself in her place and say what u would do?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 05:35 PM
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Nope, but doesnt mean it cant or hasnt happened to anyone. Im just what i would feel and do if i were in that situation
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:44 PM
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Oh i dont really care if every woman i meet lusts after me or not. An average definitely wont get lusted after by women, that's understandable What im talking about is the woman that the man calls her his gf or his wife. If she doesnt lust for her current man more or atleast as much as she lusted after her ex or hookups and the man stays with her fully knowing that.... Then im sorry, that man is a chump and most men including me will lose respect for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:02 PM
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That is true, people are usually strangers before they begin dating. But down the line, after we began dating, i learn that she used to have flings with guys on the first date, used to show up to his home at 2am just cause he said so or was willing to try new things with him in bed etc etc meanwhile she made me wait a month of being exclusive to have sex with, rarely ever initiates or declines often or does none of the adventurous things she used to do for her ex or hookups, im gonna feel really…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 03:48 PM
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Then whats the point of dating for men? By this logic, the dating market isnt actually broken. Men just dont want second hand products that doesnt function as it used to
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 03:34 PM
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Bruh, literally everything you listed here indicates she is or was more attracted another guy than me. Why should i even date her if thats the case? Having to constantly worship a woman just for the opportunity to be her bf and have sex with her despite some other guys in the past could do that for less than 10 percent of the effort? Thats just called being a chump and a simp. And honestly i would rather die alone than face that humiliation from my own relationship. If you want to date such woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 03:25 PM
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Nah, sex is a big part of a relationship for me. And as for how much it devalues you.... I would say alot. The word devalue does seem offensive, but what i mean is it does remove u from alot of peoples radar
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 03:26 PM
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Sure, whether it be a father or a mother that abandoned their kid, they are in the wrong and has to pay. But a more proper example would be, if a married man had a child with another woman and bought the kid home to his wife, the wife rightfully divorces him but the court now makes the wife pay child support for the dudes kid. That wouldnt be fair now, would it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 06:51 PM
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Men tell women to choose better all the time. They shouldn't expect to hear different from us. Yes but when a woman doesnt and becomes a single mom, they are still supported by the government and the man is made to pay child support. Absolutely So later on, if the man still turns out abusive or abandons you with a child, it will be fair to place the blame on you because it was ur studies that concluded he was a good man? Personally i dont really believe in "choose better" when it comes to abuse …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 06:05 PM
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Choose better? Can you say the same thing to a struggling single mom or a woman that got out of an abusive relationship, that she should have just choose better? Can you say with full confidence that you can tell who a person truly is? demand a paternity test before agreeing to have his name added to the birth certificate. Thats what im saying, a paternity test before signing a birth certificate should be normalized. The whole issue of needing to compensate someone wont exist in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 05:40 PM
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That is fair then. It makes sense why you wouldnt want to jail a mother either despite her knowing committing fraud and i would be lying if i said i 100 percent support jailing a mother. Cause it does feel wrong in a way. But this is the second best thing i can think of regarding justice for paternity fraud. The first one being normalizing paternity test at birth, or paternity test soon after and being able to revoke easily name from the birth certificate. This way the problem of who is gonna ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 04:55 PM
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I mean, men get arrested and jailed for failing to pay child support too, how is that justice either? There is also an option to find the actual father and make him pay as well. Might not be feasible in all cases, but in some, probably. Also its not his child lol. If he is fine with making it his child then there is not gonna be a need for compensation
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 04:23 PM
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The man signed the birth certificate thinking the child is his because he didnt think his wife was cheating. Should he have still done a paternity test before taking on such a huge responsibility just to be sure? Women dont like that either. Ok then, lets make laws to make women accountable in the event that its uncovered she did cheat and passed off another mans kid as his.....Now its all about the child. The only real solution would be if it became socially acceptable to do a paternity test on…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 04:12 PM
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Justice in the sense, the woman is made to pay the man for the years he spent caring for the child financially and emotionally, if the man so chooses. As for the child, ig its not gonna be much different than being raised in a poor family or in a family that abandoned them. Like if the mom and dad abandon their kid and runs away or are very abusive, what is the government gonna do? They gonna jail the parents for child neglect and give the child to the closest relative or put them in an orphanag…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:48 PM
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Oh yeah for sure, the court just terminating the mans responsibility after finding out the kid isnt his, yeah i heard it happened in some cases too
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:36 PM
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Ofc, monetary justice will never match. But its still something. Ultimately its a situation where the guy loses anyway u look at it, but if its more or less guaranteed a huge part of his loss will be mitigated, perhaps then the guy wont be demanding paternity test at the very beginning. i don’t believe in jail time for such an offense because that just rips another parent away from a child and burdens the taxpayer. Well, that is just an unfortunate situation, like a child losing both its parents…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 12:09 PM
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all sexual activity should be avoided until you are actively trying for a baby? I mean... Kind of? I do believe people should be prepared to take care of a baby even if the chances of protection working is 98 %. Its not really high enough. (Maybe if combined with pills it will get higher). But hey, i also believe abortions should be an option. So if protection fails and u arent prepared to raise a child at all, there is always abortion (unless in some states in USA)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 11:54 AM
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You can sue anyone for anything tho, but the question is what are the chances of winning. In the US, i think if u are married, have been paying child support, or have ur name in the certificate for a few years, the court counts it as your admission to raise the child as your own. So basically you only have a certain window of timeframe before your chances of success significantly decreases. But if a law that would increase this window indefinitely and also provide monetary compensation to the de…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 11:27 AM
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I think 2 percent is still pretty high considering the potential consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 11:02 AM
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I agree, like i said in the post, if the relationship was solid and there wasnt any infidelity from the mothers part, being asked a paternity test is devastating. But this post is more about appropriate consequences to the fraud and justice to the victim in the event that it does happen. Since prevention (asking for a paternity test before signing birth certificate) is very uncomfortable and relationship ruining, its better to atleast make a cure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 11:00 AM
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Not being responsible for the kid anymore is one thing, but if the guy has spent considerable time and money raising the kid, he still got scammed. If the mother who lied about it is made to pay compensation to the man, amount depending upon the time he spent raising it, then she would be thinking twice before lying about it and most men wouldnt care about paternity test until a reasonable suspicion has arised in their relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:56 AM
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Firstly, what do you call hate? If i say i dont date promiscuous women, single mom or an only fans girl, and nothing more, is that hate? Cause honestly, aside from that preference, i really have nothing against them nor say anything hateful but alot of times just that preference alone gets taken as hate. Secondly, not all men "create" such women. Infact its a low percentage of men who even have the privilege to be able to sleep around and have one night stands. And alot of those promiscuous men …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 09:27 AM
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So what you are saying is because there is no way for a women to know for sure her man isnt having kids with another women, that he also shouldnt use the method he has to verify if the kid is his or not? Even if he does have kids with another women, you arent raising the kid under a false pretext. But if a man is made to raise a kid thinking its his but it isnt, its basically a financial fraud too. So if anything paternity test is more like signing a contract but before u do it you verify what u…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:23 AM
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Personally I think it’s silly I also think its silly, not allowing your partner to have opposite gender friends or to go out with friends etc. But the reason i find it bad is because it will limit my partners life and potential to enjoy life. But a paternity test doesnt come with such drawbacks, it doesnt limit you from doing anything neither it invades your privacy, so i dont really understand how paternity test and having a 24/7 paranoid partner is the same
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:56 AM
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Not as inconvenient or disruptive as not being able to talk to the opposite gender or being watched 24/7? Like what? Its not even close lol. Also he isnt saying he doesn't trust you, its trust but verify as OP put it, same thing when a women might occasionally go through her mans phone or have him share location
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:46 PM
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This is like trying to sell a 5$ item for 5000$ lol. Yes it will help you, but is it a fair deal? Definitely not. Asking the man to never leave the house inexchange for permitting him to take a paternity test where u literally have to lose nothing.... What a joke 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:41 PM
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She can track his location, check his text messages, and his social media. And occasionally show up where he is. I mean, these are all fine tbh. I wouldnt really mind these as long as its not too inconvenient to my daily life ans these check ups are not too frequent
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:26 PM
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Then what should the women do? Should she stick to her man everywhere he goes? Should she not allow her man to talk to any other women? Should he stay locked up 24/7? The reason its not the same is because a women being always paranoid is very inconvenient to the man, if not downright disruptive to his life. Meanwhile for a paternity test the women has to do literally nothing to offer that piece of mind. So how is it equivalent?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:08 PM
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The key word here is "always". Paternity test is done once per child and you literally never have to think about it A woman that is always paranoid is paranoid throughout the relationship. You have to show her evidence over and over again regularly. This is not the same thing at all
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:51 PM
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How is this the same thing? Not leaving your house or not communicating severely affects your life in a negative way..... Taking a paternity test does absolutely nothing of that sorts
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:49 PM
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Not really, for me my priority is getting into a loving relationship and healthy sex life. But if i cant get that, next best thing is just sex
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 04:39 PM
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Are we even in a relationship then lol? This just seems like a fwb situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 03:12 PM
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Lol would that even be enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 12:54 PM
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What is there to explain? The 80/20 rule doesnt mean every women go for hot and rich guys. It means 80 percent of women go for them, that still leaves 20 percent of women that some average men still get lucky sometimes and can have casual sex with them. But when it comes to dating its different, most people are monogamous and women dont like sharing the same men. 80 percent of women will definitely try for the 20 percent of top men by offering them sex but ultimately they cant have them all. Onc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:31 AM
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It‘s like her accusing you of cheating and having a child with another woman I dont think any man would mind if once he shows the proof, she stops accusing you (atleast for a year)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 04:06 AM
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Well, idk then. I may call myself red pill but i dont think i agree with that opinion that all women need to be satm since their early 20s to save society or whatever. Cause frankly i dont give a shit about society and the Economy is tough
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:40 AM
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I wouldnt marry then lol or just be a career woman or smth. Plenty of women i know irl are both married with kids and have a career. Kids generally being looked after by her or her husbands parents or the couple atleast earn enough together to hire a babysitter
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 03:51 AM
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And where did you get that from? I mean, sure alot of men when asked about it will say they will do exactly those things that u said but trust me, most are just taking the question as a joke and arent thinking seriously lol. If i was stuck permanently as a girl or something, its not like all my other life stops moving forward. I would still have a family and their image to consider and i would still have to live a life in that body. My fear of STDs as a man wouldnt go away. Besides being a sahm,…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 03:39 AM
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I wouldn't sign a prenup that denied me alimony if being a sahm and not working was my plan
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 02:58 AM
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How is this gonna help men? Most women are just gonna put their height preference as 6ft+ and 80 percent of the men will be invisible. If anything it only helps women since men dont care about height as much as women. This is like saying if the app introduced boob size preference settings or weight settings, it will help women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:53 AM
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Alot of average single men are unhappy anyway, they would rather have easy sex with plenty of women and be unhappy than be lonely and unhappy. I dont think there is anyone who claims being able to have plenty of sex will solve all their problems or anything but it would definitely ease a lot of stress lol But yeah, you are right, finding a quality partner to spend a lifetime with is probably the closest method for happiness. But most average men cant even get that since alot of women are busy ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:13 PM
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And how many of that 20 percent would meet your other standards? You would probably still want a guy who is good looking, tall, good social skills, nice personality, young etc etc... Ok, even assuming you dont have any other standards, highly unlikely but sure, how many of those 20 percent are already single and are looking for a relationship? Not only that, what are the chances those guys will also find you attractive? Do you have amazing looks, are you young, do u have a appealing personality?…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 04:05 PM
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Yeah pretty much. Women have a different standards for men who she will have casual sex with and who she will date.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 05:08 PM
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You are right, that is how the market place works. But relationship and casual sex are two different product The reality is most men dont have much standards when it comes to casual sex. They arent gonna say no to sex to a average or below average looking women, or basically a women few leagues below them. But when it comes to relationship and commitment, its different. Now they are picky and not only want a good looking partner but also one with a good personality. If the woman wants a relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 02:19 PM
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Because men are louder and more critical of women at a much larger volume and much harsher severity. Some men are, im not denying that, but most genuinely feel indifference towards single moms and what not and would do nothing more than avoid dating them. But when they say they wouldn't date single moms, or ex prostitutes or just a women with high number of previous partners than them, they are ridiculed and called insecure and whatnot by women. Most videos i have seen about "hating" on single m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 01:13 AM
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I am not having intercourse with those people. I am not inserting or rubbing my genitals on them or expecting someone to suck on them. You are not, but you are still making them do something they hate for some monetary gain. By your logic, How is that any better? But as I said, men who see prostitutes tend to have this view of sex and women and are best avoided. Yes, men who visit prostitutes have a casual view of sex.... Just like women who sleep around? I mean, sure both parties most likely ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 04:19 PM
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This is what i was talking about, i said some men have negative attitude towards women with multiple partners and prostitutes but women extrapolate that to all men who simply just dont want to date such women. Yes, there are men who are super critical about or outright bully single mom, prostitutes etc but that is not most of the male population. How is this any different than a man believing all women only want to date tall and rich guys by looking at videos they found online of women talking a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 03:58 PM
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I just dont really get your argument all together, im saying red pill says women should have higher standards when it comes to personality and not lower it in exchange for a hot or rich guy. But you are saying women dont lower their personality standards for hotter or richer guy, they lower it for anybody, look at all these ugly dudes who are abusive? Thats not good either, if they can lower their personality standards for average or below average wouldnt that just mean the bar would be even way…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 05:27 AM
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So if you hire someone to do some work, but they secretly hate doing that work, you just committed slavery? The person doing the job willingly accepted the job in exchange for money but because he hates doing the job, hiring him was wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 04:35 AM
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First of all, men don’t say “I wouldn’t date her” and move on with their lives. They say she’s a ran through used up whore who is worthless. If they just say “her values are too different from mine” no one would care. No, most men would only say "i wouldnt date her" but women will take it as calling her a whore and worthless and all that. Sure, there are some men who are gonna be very negative towards such professions but alot of women extrapolate that to every men who just wouldnt be comfortabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 04:16 AM
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Don’t date men who use prostitutes Sure, but when men say they wouldnt date a former sex worker or someone who has had a lot of casual sex, all hell breaks lose and all of a sudden past dont matter. Don’t date men who refuse to pay for the first few dates Why? Does the woman not have a job? Isnt a man and a woman supposed to be equal? If its just the first few dates you two are still strangers, and the date is just supposed to for getting to know each other. And if men and women are really equal…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:58 PM
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Idk what news you are watching, but i dont really see much news about domestic abuse between two ordinary everyday people. Doesnt seem like news worthy material and its usually settled privately. But i have seen alot of news about women being lured and raped or possibly even killed, and the person doing it was fairly attractive. Also my argument is that women lower their standards for personality when it comes to hot or rich guys. Not hot and rich guys. I only gave a hypothetical example about a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:36 PM
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You entire second paragraph directly implies women overlook poor personality traits because men are hot Yes that is what i said. Now you are getting it. I dont know why u started rambling about how not all attractive men are abusive or whatever. No where did i even imply that most hot guys have garbage personality, but even if they do women are more likely to give them a shot because they are hot and charming. That is what you mean by "high physical standards What? Are u purposefully trying to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 09:14 AM
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When did i say abusive men or criminals are disproportionately tall and hot?? You are arguing with a ghost mate cause thats not what i said at all. What i said was, the popular red pill sentiment is that most women will choose to ignore redflags that indicate bad behavior as long as the guy meets her high physical standards. And trp community wants women to lower her standards in terms of looks or raise the standards in terms of behavior and respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 08:02 AM
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When red pill men talk about standards, they are talking about two kinds of standards, physical/social standards and personality/behavioral standards. You said in your post yourself, a woman lowers her standards and ignores the red flag and then later ends up being abused. But what is the red flag she ignored? That he is broke? Are you saying all broke people are abusive? Im gonna assume not. The red flag she ignored is most likely related to his personality. And why did she choose to ignore tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:53 AM
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Most guys cant even get one woman tho, let alone multiple lol Also, you say multiple dating experiences and breakups arent necessary? Most women here would disagree with that, they are very vocal about not wanting to date a man who has never dated before lol. So if u didnt get into multiple relationship in your youth, you are outta luck it seems
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 08:56 AM
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Despite the guy being proven innocent in court? Ideally if they are proven guilty or innocent, it should mean all the investigation was already done and a proper conclusion was reached but sure, its not ideal. But on the opposite side of this, its like a guy saying he wouldnt date a girl who accused a guy of rape and got him sent to prison because there is a small chance that the girl falsely accused him and the court sided with her without much evidence. Now wouldnt that be absurd? Sure you mig…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 04:21 AM
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Yeah it may not be a lie, but an unbiased stranger should go with what the court says unless they are presented with an evidence that says otherwise. Thats the whole point of court, you look up a news article about a murderer and it says the court declared him guilty, you are not gonna no way unless u have some other info right? You are just gonna take the court in face value. Also innocent and not guilty is the same thing? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 05:59 PM
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What is more controlling tho? Improving yourself physically, financially and socially to attract a mate by understanding the primal motives of the other gender like how the red pill suggests Or by putting on the nice guy act, white knighting women and simping over them in the hopes that the woman falls in love with you like how the blue pill suggests?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 04:07 AM
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Ig thats what the purple pill is then
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:59 AM
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I get that you are referencing the other thread we had in this sub but just like in that case, in your case too the guy got proven innocent by the court. Now we know how flawed our court system is but it is still the only legal system we have and we have no other choice but to trust it. In the other post, the guy was proven innocent by the court, and since its just two strangers words against each other, most people would side with the court. In your post as well, the guy was declared innocent a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:57 AM
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Let me get this straight, she is a single mom who wants a guy who is taller than average men (yes even in Scandinavian countries) and who isnt balding or bald? And you say the bar for men is in hell? Lmao, this has to be a troll post
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 09:35 AM
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Life experiences? Sure. But in this scenario the 30 yo doesnt have any more relationship experience than the 21 yo. He cant convince her the shitty behavior is normal in every relationship if he himself has never been in one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:00 PM
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Im not talking about girls under 18, when people here say young girls its generally around 21+ (atleast i hope)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:29 PM
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Whats wrong with wanting to date an inexperienced woman if u are inexperienced yourself then? You guys are ones who claim difference in experience puts u at a disadvantage, so same thing should apply when it comes to dating too no? Then whats wrong with not wanting to be at a disadvantage? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:25 PM
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While it is true that u cant and shouldnt force people to date you or like what u have, the unfortunate reality is that there are some people born with all or many of the undesirable traits. (Being ugly, short, small penis , unintelligent etc). They didnt choose to be born that way, so you cant really argue people have freewill when some of the most fundamental aspect of their body and life, they didnt choose. There is only so much u can do with what u have realistically and in most cases its ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:15 PM
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Because I'll tell you right now, that can be totally nefarious. Trying to lure you to somewhere private, trying to use you for a good time, all under the guise of trying to genuinely date you and get to know you as a person, but I'm sure you're somehow not talking about these individuals and I've gotten it all wrong, right? Silly me. Ok but how does this apply to old men only? Every men of all age group can have nefarious intentions like the one you are talking about. Its upto the woman to be sm…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 01:11 PM
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"Older men nefarious..." Yes because that's what we were talking about. We are talking about old men, but u are using examples that could apply to all age group
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 01:01 PM
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A lot of promiscuous men are promiscuous because women let them be promiscuous. Like you said, if women really want emotional connection more than sex, then they should only have sex with the man once that emotional connection is established on both ends. And for that to happen it takes time. Most promiscuous men wont be waiting too long, they would rather just move on to another woman if one woman is making him wait for sex. And what about all the promiscuous women? Are you saying they are just…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:15 AM

Yeah that is true, even in this sub there were alot of women shaming older virgin dudes saying something is wrong with them meanwhile saying things like body count shouldnt matter. Very hypocritical imo
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 06:33 AM
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I jumped to physical characteristics and intellect because thats what op seemed to be implying when he said choose better due to the fact that he is mentioning animal kingdom and how guys who didnt win the genetic lottery should exit the gene pool. If he really meant choose better as in choose someone who has a good heart and a good personality, then i wouldnt have made a comment because i fully agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 03:52 AM
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Then i actually feel bad if a young girl is dating an old man thinking he is really rich but he is just a regular old dude
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:04 PM
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How much can one even improve themselves? Sure she can get fit, improve her personality, be more loving and caring etc but there is only so much that can be done thats not on a genetic level, and since we are mostly talking from a genetic and biological perspective, her perfect man is also gonna be picky and will want a woman who is also genetically blessed if he is gonna settle and provide resources for her for his entire life Single mothers for example are way more common than single fathers Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:47 PM
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Do they tho? A 21 yo girl cant tell if a guy she is dating is just an average 30/40 yo or a very wealthy dude? I mean... Sure, he will appear richer than her peers, but i think she should be able to gauge the mans wealth based on what he is driving compared to other 30 year olds, his job, how much he spends on her etc. Im 25 myself, i didnt think girls my age were that dumb just a few years ago lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:30 PM
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Sure, women can choose whatever men they want. Their standard can be the most genetically perfect man, 6ft+, very handsome, makes 7 figures etc etc. But they should also understand that if their standards are too high, there isnt going to be enough men for them all. Unless they are fine with sharing the same man ig.... Just like in the animal kingdom. Afterall, majority of mammals arent monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:15 PM
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My first impression would be that the man is probably immature and stunted in some way himself Why is that? Young girls arent really attracted to old men generally, and if they are it is usually because the old guy is successful, rich and also somewhat attractive. So if a old guy can pull a young girl, 90 percent of the time its because he has something really going for him. He is basically a high value man because he is pulling from a pool that would rather date someone their own age. So how is…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 02:15 PM
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What does traditional woman mean then? If she is working too, it would just be super difficult for her to do majority of the household work and child caring and isnt that what people mean by traditional woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 02:11 AM
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That type of men are basically the ones with very little self respect. They are happy a woman, whose value got significantly reduced because of having another man's baby, is with him but in reality she is just settling for him. In her prime, she would have never even looked at him
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:59 AM
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Maybe good for casual dating or hooking up, sure.... But for serious dating....nah i think i would rather remain single for the rest of my life than raise the kid of my woman's ex Yeah, a woman way above your league is dating you because she has kids now and is desperate.... But that just means she is settling for u. And no way a man with any self respect wants to be settled for
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:51 AM
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Yeah but op is talking about the overall market in general, if a person has a trait that attracts 80 people of the opposite sex among 100, then it can be said that they are at their peak But hey the argument can be made that the remaining 20 is what the person is attracted to, so despite being at their peak according to the market, they might still have a hard time
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 02:31 AM
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I dont believe women go after assholes. I believe most (not all) young women go after the conventionally attractive guy (tall, handsome or very rich) but since alot of women go after the same attractive guys, these guys have alot of options. Which tends to make most of them (not all) assholes. They can pick and choose, string people along more easily etc. Even some of the bad behaviors they do might appear cool to some young women because pretty privilege. But this doesnt always last, as such wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:15 PM
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They have experienced young dudes sleazing on them too tho Also when is it even considered sleazing? If its a rich old but still somewhat good looking and charismatic dude hitting on them, those young girls most likely wouldnt mind. If its a broke and ugly dude it would be sleazing even if he is young 21+ year olds are old enough to make decisions for themselves in my opinion and can say no to what they dont like. If the guy is persistent and annoying, does the age even matter? Its an issue with…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 03:01 PM
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Yeah i dont really understand either..... So the person with less resources will feel like they have to do things their high resources partner asked them to do or else they might leave and take away that access to the resources? Forgive me if i misunderstood, but isnt that just how most relationship work anyway? 😅 If you cant do things to keep your partner happy or if they cant do things that make you happy, one of you is gonna leave... As long as no one is threatening each other with violence o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 08:32 AM
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Isnt it a good thing tho? The young woman with little resources gets access to a lot more resources through the older dude and the older dude gets the girl he wants? 🤔 Are you worried it makes the relationship less genuine and more transactional? Maybe, but ultimately its their choice
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 07:41 AM
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Sounds pretty superficial Maybe it is.... Just like a lot of things in dating. Women wouldnt wanna sleep with ugly, short or obese guys when she can sleep with a chad. That's superficial too but me and plenty of other men understand that. It is what it is. But on the other end, men dont want to date and put effort on a woman who has given herself easy plenty of times to other guys. Of course there are gonna be exceptions on both sides but thats how the general mentality goes. Seems like women wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 07:14 AM
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No the argument is that you shouldnt judge any couple if they are of legal age. Just like its wrong to judge two dudes or two girls dating each other, its wrong to judge a dude in his early 30s dating a girl in her early 20s. Once someone is 21+, they can drink, smoke, go to war etc etc, they are mentally developed enough to make adult decisions according to law hence they are capable of making dating decisions too. Yeah there is a lifestage discrepancy but the couple knows that very well as the…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 06:50 AM
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Past doesn't really matter. Yes but that is your opinion, there are alot of men who dont share that opinion and women too. Just like i respect your opinion on that matter, people should also respect theirs. For men, it is a womans body count, past behavior etc and for women its the mans education background, career progression, financial capabilities, fitness etc It honestly sounds like promiscuous people have way more fun in life. I dont disagree, promiscuous people do have more fun in life. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 06:17 AM
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That is fair, a preference is a preference. Some people will say its hypocritical or dumb but its just their instinctual biology. Its like super short girls still wanting tall guys.... Like what can you do about it? Its their choice. Just like biologically some women want significant height difference, some men are biologically programmed to not wanna be with someone with high body count despite themselves having higher count. Either because they think sex is the biggest reward a woman can give …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 04:02 AM
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People who say past doesnt matter are being hypocrites imo. Everyone's past matter. If i was a drug addicting, party loving degenerate gambler in my early 20s, i probably wouldnt have a fit body and stable career. Both these things are very crucial when it comes to dating so my past did matter. I believe it is the same when it comes to body count. That being said, i dont want to imply people with high body counts are undate-able or smth. I just believe its a preference like any other and people …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 02:55 AM
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If the 40 yo old is decent in everything, well established, mature and the girl doesnt mind the age gap, why should she be disgusted at him just because he is a virgin? The chances are she is a virgin too or doesnt have much experience either. Its not delusional, there are couples where a man is much older than the woman, sure its rare but it does happen. You might say the virgin man is a virgin for a reason and thats why she is disgusted, but according to the blue pill community people are capa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 02:40 PM
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I understand your point of view but it also makes me kinda sad. Im a 25 yo man and a virgin. Infact i have no relationship experience whatsoever. While it is true that its mainly because i have been focused on my studies, career and family and never really considered dating, it is also because i used to be very awkward growing up and not really attractive. Im much more outgoing now and im in good shape (as attractive as i can get with the genes i have) but because i have missed out on much neede…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 06:10 AM
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Hypothetically speaking, he can go date or have sex with whoever he wants. You say that but then proceed to call such men disgusting. Calling them outright disgusting seems more hateful rather than indifference most 40 y/o men who are virgins because fate decided it for them, aren't anyones first choice. Especially not a 20 y/o young woman's choice. Im not necessarily talking about them being a young womens first choice, more like they could be more willing to accept an inexperienced man since t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 05:45 AM
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Like i said, in this scenario the only option a 40 year dude has, if he doesnt want to die alone, is to get experience from someone who is much younger and isnt experienced themselves, because most woman of his age range find him disgusting for not ever having sex.If most woman of his age range, who likely already have multiple sexual partner, find him undate-able and the only way he can be considered date-able is for him to have some experience too. But he cant get experience if everyone of his…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 04:22 AM
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If you don't care that's totally fine then. Some people do care though and call that man gross, disgusting and all sorts of things despite both being adults. Im glad you don't care, dont think people should.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 03:41 AM
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Should the 40 year old virgin dude just date a girl in her early 20s then? I mean, aside from being alone for his whole life now because a lot of women his age are much experienced and think this way, the only option i see for him is to date much younger because they are more likely to not be experienced just like him
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 03:10 AM
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That is a fair point, but you cant know if he is a virgin or not just by looking at him. Lets say you went on a date with a guy, things go well and you find out he is a great guy. Good manners, communication skills, respectful, great career... All the green flags. And since its apparently taboo according to alot of women to ask her about her past pretty early when dating, im assuming a women wouldnt ask the dude either right? So, if everything else shows that he is a green flag but you find out …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 03:01 AM
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Im not gay so i would say women make better partners for me
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 12:15 PM
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Yeah same here, maybe if i thought the same about girls then i would probably be fine but because im just an average guy and dont get much opportunity for hookups so hearing my gf made me put alot more effort to get the same thing as some random guy would bum me out too
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 10:29 AM
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I mean... Sure, the word "train" is a bit strong imo but if a man isnt putting in the effort or time that u think he should be putting, you are within your rights to not put in the effort. But i think a better solution is to just communicate. Be like hey i dont feel like im not getting what i deserve or something like that. If your demands are not completely absurd and unreasonable, then most likely your man will comply and if he doesnt you are free to leave him for someone else. Any man with en…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 10:53 AM
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Yeah i mostly agree with you If a media says something that enforces a negative stereotype like saying "women cant drive" "women belong in the kitchen" etc, women have the right to voice their opinions and call that media misogynistic and honestly it is (except the ones where it clearly is for comedic purposes) . But these days, people call a media misogynistic for the simple fact that a female character has bigger boobs or is dressing up in a more revealing way?? That imo is completely unwarran…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 09:16 AM
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A woman is expected to shave their legs or put on makeup? You can go out in public with hairy legs and no make up and im sure your day wont go much differently (maybe some people would stare because you arent following the norm? But no one can really do anything about it) You can even go on dates without any makeup imo, the only problem is you are gonna be competing with women who most likely will be putting on makeup and in comparison... You might not look good enough. When it comes down to it,…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 08:50 AM
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