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The implication of failing due to immutable characteristics is that you CAN'T find a workaround.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:45 PM
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Not necessarily. Not if the man in question failed due to immutable characteristics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 12:36 PM
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Weird. You keep talking, yet all I hear is reeeeeee.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:24 AM
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I'm sorry, was there meant to be a point to this? I thought this was just venting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 09:17 AM
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What happened, Lilith? Did your old account get permanently suspended?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 08:52 AM
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No man ever got laid by "helping out around the house". Remember that, kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/23 07:07 AM
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>The easiest way would be to give them a sense of purpose to make their suffering and them being exploited by the system seems worth it, in effect exchanging non-material goods for their material/labor goods. This is how most societies historically work: religion, nationalism, extremist-ideologies, etc. This will not and has never worked - even the most despotic regimes throughout history knew the only to keep men in line was through the promise of pussy. Everything else, all the mumbo jumbo abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 03:08 PM
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Cut social benefits so women are actually forced to pair up with men in order to exploit their resources - literally the only thing that can be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 03:06 PM
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> -Let’s say a woman claims what I’m saying isn’t true. She claims she’s had better options and she chose her nice-guy boyfriend because she “loved” him. Let’s say she’s 29, has had a not-so-good history with bad boys and/or rich men, and makes more than her boyfriend. Let’s say she also has a bad boy who flirts with her at work, and even says he wants to commit to her. She doesn’t cheat, and she stays loyal. Why? Is this because she’s principled? Could be, but the more likely reason is that, sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 02:13 PM
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Gay men aren't expected to bankroll straight men's lifestyle - that's the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 02:02 PM
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This is completely incoherent. What the fuck are you even complaining about??
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 03:52 AM
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"I just want a nice guy" also doesn't leave a lot of room for error. It's absolutely untrue, as we all know, but that's because you're being dishonest - not because men misinterpreted you. Also I say I’ve heard women say they “want a good guy” and I explain what they mean there. Except women actually pretend all they care about is whether or not the man is "good" - men don't. That's the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/21 03:32 AM
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Considering you've also allegedly never heard other women say they "just want a nice guy", I'm not surprised. Honestly, at this point, it's not even the fact you're trying to bullshit us that offends me, it's how dumb you think we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 05:04 PM
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Again - "how do I get women to want me" doesn't leave a lot of room for interpretation, even for the likes of you. This is just you trying and failing to gaslight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 04:02 PM
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>I often hear from men here that women or the gynocentric society expressly "lied to" them. You did. Men asked you how they to become more attractive to you so you would sleep them, instead you told them to make themselves useful you, without ever intending to pay them back for their utility. It would've been better if you told them to fuck off and figure it out on their own, instead of actively misleading them for your own gain. >In all of my life, I have never ever heard a woman or article or …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 06:10 AM
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That wasn't something that happened to you - that was the plot of a Seinfeld episode. Keep it straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 11:03 PM
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If you were good-looking with a decent personality - or heck, just good-looking - you wouldn't be a late bloomer as a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 10:36 PM
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Any number multiplied by zero is still zero. Again, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 09:29 AM
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Since everyone is on the app for the same reason, Not necessarily true, a lot of women are on dating apps just to get their egos stroked. You can message them, but it won't lead you anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 07:53 AM
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If you're a man, you already know there's no help on offer - that's why when we set out to off ourselves, we actually do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 11:55 AM
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Some people do, that's why they commit suicide. Mostly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 11:47 AM
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No, it isn't. The only thing that's stopping men from getting sex is women, same as it always has. Being low inhib as an ugly guy won't get you laid, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 05:44 AM
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No, it doesn't. Shame has an effect on men only when they perceive it as an obstacle to reach their actual goals: sex and relationships. If men can't get that, they don't care what society thinks of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 05:40 AM
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You can't be a "seductive charmer" if you're not physically attractive. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 05:28 AM
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No, not his personality. His pur$enality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 05:23 AM
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But they don't want to die - that's the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 02:09 AM
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>Women attempt more. They only do it to get attention - they don't actually wanna die.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 01:01 AM
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>I don't care if a man is deemed desirable by other women. "I'm not like other girls." - said every woman ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 11:22 PM
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Women lose interest in sex once there's nothing more to be gained by having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 07:33 PM
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>Slut shaming is illogical if you are a man. A promiscuous culture is a net benefit for men. There is not and has never been a promiscuous culture. Women are not by promiscuous by nature - they're puritans. >Men can now successfully 'spin plates' without having to commit. A large portion of men today are incels, they're not getting anything. In fact, I personally believe incels are a silent majority. >Personal anecdote- I wouldn't even have a sex life right now if it wasn't for liberated promisc…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 02:01 AM
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And if I were a woman, then yes, it would be sound advice. Alas, I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 08:04 AM
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I have massive amounts of empathy for the men in these kinds of subs, more that most women I'd say, which is why I'm here even entertaining these ideas and having conversations and stating my opinions, etc. ​ I think I speak for all men here when I say we can do without your "empathy". In fact, we'd be happy to see you leave and never come back.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 06:06 AM
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tic. If you're not a model yourself don't go after a model. Stay in your own league or fish below and see what you can get. Women are the ones who need to hear this, not men. We know our place - the world wouldn't let us forget it even if we wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/21 06:03 AM
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I care as much about women's suffering as they care about mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 08:24 PM
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The end game of female liberation is women doing most of the work Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 08:23 PM
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That's not what I meant. You know what? Forget it. It's late - I'm not in the mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 02:03 AM
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Didn't you read what I just typed? Let me break it down for you, maybe it'll help you understand - I said there is more lesbian sex happening between paid actresses in porn than there is between actual, legitimate lesbian couples throughout the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 12:47 AM
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Nope, absolutely true. I guarantee you right now there are more women paid to have lesbian sex in porn than there actual lesbian couples having sex in the world. I would stake my fucking house on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 12:24 AM
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Keep financing their lifestyles without demanding anything in return. You know, kinda like you're expected to do now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 11:58 PM
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Most men don't get to decide whether they reproduce or not - that's women's decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 11:52 PM
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And their relationships are completely sexless.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 11:50 PM
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Meh, at the end of the day, it's not like you can prevent bullying anyway - mitigate it maybe, but outright prevent it? Nah. And I'm glad for it tbh. As a former victim of bullying, if I and other loser men had to suffer, it's only fitting that loser women are made to suffer as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 08:31 PM
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I love the implication here - nobody gives a fuck about bullying as long as boys the ones being targeted, but the moment a pretty girl starts whining, all of the sudden bullying is this huge issue that we must move heaven and earth to combat.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 06:22 PM
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I don't care what the mods claim they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 12:14 PM
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They're all team women - even the one token guy. Next question.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/21 04:58 AM
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As any other woman, meaning not horny at all. Again, that's the real issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 07:20 PM
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You're not sexual beings, you never were and you never will be. That's part of the problem, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 06:57 PM
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Any system where women know their place and men aren't expected to finance their lifestyle in exchange for nothing is better than this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 05:37 PM
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If women were just men with vaginas then men's personality might actually matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 03:07 AM
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More like hot = interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/21 01:41 AM
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Gen Z is even more sexless than millenials. As long as women feel like they can anything they want and give nothing in return, this trend will not reverse .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 06:21 PM
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In hindsight, I don't think I ever truly was a redpiller. That was just me going through the denial phase of the cycle - deep inside, I always knew it was all about looks and nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 01:16 PM
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No, he means women, and he's right.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 12:51 PM
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It's because they wanna stick their dick in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 12:34 PM
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Whether they want to or not is immaterial. If they want to be in a relationship, then unless they're extraordinarily attractive, they have to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 01:42 AM
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Ok, maybe I should have. Enjoy your big bucks then.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 04:33 PM
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Well, there's that, I suppose. But that's not really gonna do much for you when it comes to interpersonal relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 04:23 PM
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I hate to be the one to break it you, but things only get worse as you age.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 03:52 PM
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>You are generally right, but there are good looking dudes that don't get their game together til they are a bit older. Doesn't matter - if you're good-looking, then as long as you're not completely autistic, you'll get pussy. If you're not getting it now, then you're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 03:48 PM
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Only false hope. As a rule of thumb, life doesn't magically get better as you age. Your best years are behind you already.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 03:41 PM
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r/thatHappened
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/21 03:40 PM
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Not even gonna deign that with a proper reply. Not in the mood for stupid, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 05:58 PM
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When I'm provided with evidence, I'll accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 05:21 PM
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Outside of reproduction, sex is generally only for the benefit of the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/21 02:07 PM
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We're both miserable creatures, I at least have the guts to own up to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 12:25 PM
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I refer back to my previous post - you are on PPD, you are not Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 01:38 AM
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Fine then, keep pretending. You're not fooling anyone else, but maybe you'll fool yourself eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 01:38 AM
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I don't give a fuck about your respect any more than I do about your fantasies of banging 20-30 different women a week on Tinder or whatever the fuck. You're on r/PurplePillDebate, you're a fucking loser, have the balls to own to it. And, dude, if you think things will get magically get better for you after you hit 30, think again - if you're in my age range, I'll tell you now: the best years of your life are behind you. It's all the way down from here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 11:50 PM
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One, I'm almost 30. So lay off with the condescension, will ya? Two, you're the lunatic standing in the middle of a soup kitchen gibbering on about how he's actually the lost prince of Denmark, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 11:09 PM
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You're on r/PurplePillDebate, you're not Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 10:21 PM
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I actually don't know why I'm still on PPD. I do - you're a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 10:11 PM
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I know you're not, that's why you're on PPD. But you're not fucking 2 or 3 different a month or whatever the fuck it was. Again, we're all losers here - at least I don't put up a front.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 09:08 PM
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I am however a normal guy who fucks 2-3 different women a month thanks to online dating. That's definitely not a normal - and it's most definitely not you. Get real.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 08:38 PM
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A lot of mammalian females are effectively asexual. So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 08:06 PM
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It pleases me - their pain is my gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 07:18 PM
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I've been over it more times than I care to remember, and these were the conclusions I came to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 07:16 PM
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It's like you can feel the autism radiating off the screen right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 04:32 PM
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Make me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 04:26 PM
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Make us.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 04:26 PM
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Dude, you're on r/PurplePillDebate. Even if women wanted sex with Chad, you're not Chad, so they wouldn't be after you. Stop posturing already, nobody's buying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 03:29 PM
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Females are all just asexual. Pretty much, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 02:44 PM
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No, they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 02:44 PM
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No, they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 01:59 PM
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Oh, that's right, I forgot - women of PPD have pigshit for brains. Nevermind, forget I said anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 03:58 AM
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It's hyperbolic, but not by much. Google Norah Vincent and her book Self-Made Man if you don't believe me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 11:39 PM
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This has nothing do with having friends. You don't need friends to think like a man - you just have to be one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 06:45 PM
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>BP Dude at work: Most women will happily settle with you, if you just buy them stuff and take them out on a date every week. So what if they sleep with other guys, you get to say you are with her which is all that matters. "You get to say you are with her and that's all that matters?" That doesn't at all like something a man would think or say. That's female logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 05:07 PM
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It's not. And even if the dumbshit women of PPD interpret it as so, it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 10:22 AM
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Same here, man. Same here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 12:29 AM
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That's not my logic lol. Those are scientific facts lol. I know the pigshit for brains women of PPD don't like science lol, but I don't give a shit lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 10:56 PM
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Yeah, that's cool. Except dick don't actually get shorter the more pussies they fuck, so the whole analogy kinda falls apart. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 10:14 PM
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Stop boring us with your stupid anecdotes, you dumb shit-for-brains cow. Stats or gtfo.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 10:11 PM
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All social relations are transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 10:06 PM
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That's not how it works. The reason why men complain about women having too many partners is because it actually widens and loosens the vagina, making sex less pleasurable for their partners. Also, you'll find that statistically, the lower value/less attractive a woman, is the more partners she'll have - with men, it's the opposite (unsurprisingly).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 10:04 PM
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I really wish women had it as bad as you say - I really do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 09:59 PM
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Gal Gadot isn't a Stacy, she's a female Chad. She amogs other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 09:08 PM
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Nobody gives us a fuck about us, so we're bitter and lashing out. What's the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 09:06 PM
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Are you surprised? This is and always has been an incel sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 01:12 AM
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Meanwhile, all the active mods are on the sub are women. Is it any wonder this place turned into a fucking cesspit?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 08:51 PM
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The relationship between the sexes is getting worse, not better. Men and women's lived experiences have never differed more than they do now. Women are increasingly unwilling to feign sympathy for men's woes, and men to pretend they're temporarily embarrassed Chads - this was the inevitable result of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 08:48 PM
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Not only that, the mods give these women carte blanche to say and do whatever the fuck they want, but if you try to answer in kind, you get banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 08:43 PM
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How would you know? You're on r/PurplePillDebate - you're definitely not average.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 08:41 PM
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You have not won. Yes, I have. I am a woman and I desire to have sex. If I took women at their word, I wouldn't be on r/PurplePillDebate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 08:10 PM
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I’ll have to, you and I aren’t even in the same scope of discussion. Yeah, I've won, and you're just acting pissy and refusing to concede. sex drive A desire to have sex. I mean, really? Do you really wanna go this route?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 07:57 PM
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Then why do women fuck their loser chad boyfriends who abuse them for free for years and years on end? You've answered your own question. Why do women take home men from bars and fuck them all night long? They seldom do. Most men who try to hook up at bars only end up with a massive tab for their trouble. Plus m/f ration in most bars is something like 4 or 5 to 1. You gave 2 parameters - sex drive AND wiling to fuck for free. They are one and the same. If you have a sex drive, you want to fuck a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 01:33 PM
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I'm big into BBWs (pun totally intended), but there's nothing "beautiful" about Melissa McCarthy. Even if she dropped the extra weight, she still wouldn't be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 12:04 PM
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Oh, women fuck, but never for free. There may be no direct money exchange, but no woman's gonna exchange sex for sex - as you yourself have already admitted, I should add.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 01:14 PM
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If women had a sex drive and were willing to fuck for free, why would men pay them for it? See, past all your pseudophilosophical ramblings, that's what it really all boils down to - if I was wrong, you wouldn't be able to earn a living doing what you did (again, allegedly). And I think you know that, and are just acting difficult because... well, that's what the female hivemind of PPD does when confronted, and as you've already demonstrated, you're just another drone - so why should you be any …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 01:04 PM
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You're clear as mud. Remember that one particular sex worker I mentioned earlier? She wasn't especially well-educated, but even she was smart enough to understand that she wouldn't be able to make a living doing what she did if women actually wanted to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 01:04 AM
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Which ones do you believe women experience then?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 12:48 AM
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You're the one who responded to me. Look, what do you want me to say? I've long since accepted the fact that all the women may as well be a hivemind for all intents and purposes, but I'd expect your background to at least give you some keen insights into this subject matter... except it clearly hasn't. In fact, you're completely indistinguishable from the rest of the collective. And again, you don't sound like any sex worker I've interacted with before.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 11:21 PM
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Seems to me like you're just being evasive at this point. But ok, I'l bite for now. Women have no sex "drive", women do have sexuality. Explain the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 11:16 PM
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So again, are you agreeing with me that women have no sex drive? This is a simple yes or no question, no need to elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 08:17 PM
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No doubt you're familiar with the saying "many a truth is spoken in jest"? Well, it goes both ways. You can infer a lot about a comedian from his style of humour.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 08:15 PM
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Either society pays to prevent pregnancy Or they pay for pregnancy, childbirth, childcare, school, pediatricians, etc. etc. Or, or - and hear me out here - society doesn't give you shit, and you're forced to deal with the consequences of your actions. You know, just like men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 08:07 PM
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, I fail to see why you included the previous paragraph. Did you just want to come across as profound? I know how you think and how you sound, and that fucking flair tells me more about you than anything in our conversation so far. At this point, I'm no longer willing to extend to you the benefit of the doubt. I don't believe you're a former sex worker like you claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 08:05 PM
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Just to reiterate though, so we're all clear on this - you agree with me that women have no sex drive, correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 08:03 PM
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Nope, providing free contraception to women doesn't increase the rate of sex. That's a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 07:59 PM
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Give us something you have and we value in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 07:50 PM
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Why don't I sound like one? Curious... I don't know part of this you understand. You don't think or sound like any sex worker I've come across before. I even struck a somewhat awkward (and regrettably brief) friendship with one of your alleged colleagues at some point in the past, and they were nothing like you. ​ So we are talking about "sex drive" aren't we? Yes, and if you realized this, I fail to see why you included the previous paragraph. Did you just want to come across as profound? ​ I w…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 07:49 PM
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That's ok, I don't care about the individual. I care about stats and numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 07:19 PM
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I'm curious what else you thought I could possibly mean. And as someone who's mingled with sex workers in the past, I have to say you don't much sound like one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 07:18 PM
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I'll repeat once again, hopefully this time it'll stick: ​ Men are the only net contributors into the system. If you can't understand what this means, I'm sorry, I can't help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 07:14 PM
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You don't pay for shit. Men are the only net contributors into the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 07:05 PM
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No, you can't. That's one of the basic principles of science - you can never 100% prove a negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 06:28 PM
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No lesbian orgies, mixed group sex. And no lesbian relationships, just the sex part. A distinction without a difference in this context. I refer you back to my above post. There is no consensus, so what does it mean to YOU that female sexuality doesn't exist? What is it that females don't feel....you have a lot of options from the definition above. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're asking for clarification in good faith (even though I know you aren't) - when I say women ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 06:26 PM
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We don't want to pay for your health coverage. You've done nothing to earn it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 06:19 PM
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I can't prove a negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 06:07 PM
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Yeah, cool story, sis. Funnily enough, there was a study conducted a while back that found the large majority of lesbian relationships were completely platonic. So yeah, I don't think there are any lesbian orgies happening outside of porn. >Maybe we are defining female sexuality differently? Male sexuality exists, female sexuality doesn't - in a way, yes, I suppose you could say they're different.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 06:07 PM
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Ok, cool. You know what reactive means then. That's a good start. Now all you need to do is present me with evidence that women's sexuality is in fact reactive (as opposed to merely nonexistent). And once you do that, you then need to find evidence that the triggers for their sexuality are indeed behavorial as you claim (as opposed to visual), and let me tell you now, that's a hell of a tall order.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 04:22 PM
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>reactive sexuality This nonsense again? Do you even know what that means? You don't, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 04:11 PM
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Of course there are many women who pay for sex. No. No, there aren't. They've actually done interviews with real-life male escorts and asked them about this. They all say the same thing: gigolos are a myth, all the money is on guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 04:09 PM
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Women don't pay for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 04:06 PM
2

Behavior isn't what makes an "alpha", you can't act your way into becoming attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 04:03 PM
1

Huh-uh.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 03:58 PM
1

This conversation has been over for a while. I'm just not letting you get the last word.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 03:53 PM
1

Indeed, and losers hang out at r/PurplePillDebate and engaging in inconsequential moral arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 03:45 PM
2

Unfortunately, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 03:32 PM
1

I care about your group living at the expense of mine all the while giving nothing in return. That's what I care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 03:23 PM
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It almost never happens, man. And even when it does, the only men they ask are the ones who aren't struggling to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 02:19 PM
3

Sugar mommas don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 01:43 PM
2

Because women hate sex. And if their partner doesn't pester them for it, so much the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 01:39 PM
2

They're not asexual billionaire supermodels - that's what she means.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 01:32 PM
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>wait until women ask you out instead of asking them out. And die an incel. Even by female PPD poster standards, this thread is braindead.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 01:16 PM
1

Old women are worth less than young men. That's all that says. In any event, it's irrelevant, I could care less about slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 09:26 AM
1

Black male slaves were definitely prized above female in the agricultural colonies, for example Really? What was the price of a male slave compared to a female one? Are you aware of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 02:08 AM
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Sure they would, and did. You know that slaves/servants/serfs were male too, and were often worth more than women ? That's an extraordinary claim requiring extraordinary evidence. In any case, maybe you should focus less on what you’re owed and maybe more on what you do Again, you let me worry about what I'm focused on. Somehow, I don't feel like you have my best interests at heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 01:53 AM
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men. Why would they do that for mere sexual possessions who were bought and sold like livestock. How embarrassing? Do you know why men weren't traded for livestock historically? Because nobody would value a man over a cow. This what we call apex fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 01:46 AM
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Men built civilization for themselves and their things, which included women and children at the time No, we didn't. We did it for your benefit and it's only fair that we demand something from you in return. And if you are an incel, you probably shouldn’t be worrying about ancient balances which are no longer relevant I'll decide what I should or shouldn't worry about, tyvm.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 01:41 AM
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don’t manage/enhance your lives or care for/prioritize your kids 24/7. Well, I am incel. I've never even had sex without paying for it, so you're not wrong there. But again, that's not the point. Let’s not even throw in the sex/companionship that is so “owed” to you for, like, moving some marble slabs a thousand years ago Not just 1000 years ago. We're still moving those "marble slabs" today and you're still the main beneficiaries from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 01:32 AM
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No, that's fact. Again, we've been through this - take a look around outside, everything you see, who put it there, etc. Try replace a housewife with labor now — it will pretty much be 3 or 4 people you’re hiring instead of one. A single part-time maid can easily maintain a home to most men's satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 01:24 AM
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If women deem 80% of men to be unfuckable, that's their prerogative. If they deem 80% of men to be "below averag", then their perception is completely skewed and out of whack - that's the point here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 01:21 AM
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Individuals don't matter, groups do. And your "group" has been living the high life at the expense of mine for a long time now while giving little to nothing in return, that's the issue here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 01:15 AM
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Again, you're trying to make this about me personally. I'm not biting. I'll repeat one more time, hopefully it'll stick - I don't matter, you don't matter. We're both completely irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 01:10 AM
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I never did. I said my gender has given your gender a lot, and you have yet to repay us.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 01:00 AM
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I don't matter, and neither do you. Nothing we do matters. If that's not an answer to your question, I don't know what is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 12:57 AM
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You're just one woman, you don't matter. And I'm just one man, I matter even less. But we're both irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 12:53 AM
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This isn't about me or about you. And I'm certainly not interested in your life's story, so don't bore me with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 12:44 AM
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Glad to know what you think of women. You're a bunch of privileged ingrates. I envy you for your privilege and I hate you for your ingratitude and callousness towards me. There, that's what I think about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 12:36 AM
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Survival differences were and are relevant in famines and plagues, which was where these effects were initially observed. Yes, because again they were protected. While the men were left to fend for themselves. Sure, women are protected in these places. They are also traded, bought/sold, beaten, raped, and murdered because they are things, not people. Expensive things, occasionally, but still things. And they're happy to be bought and sold as they should be. You know, considering the alternative.…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 12:21 AM
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Congratulations, you've just played yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 12:19 AM
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No, men starve faster because they have more muscle tissue and less fat. They are more susceptible to infections because Y chromosomes. This is like, biology and shit Alright, let's throw a man and a woman out in the middle of the Sahara desert and see how long it takes for them to starve to death. My guess is the difference won't be statistically relevant. If you want to go back to a world where might makes right and men reign supreme, there’s plenty of war zones, theocracies and developing nat…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 12:07 AM
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Men are generally more susceptible to infections and starvation Only because women are protected by men and society as a whole. So you see, we don't even benefit from this whole "civilization" gig as much as you do. All the more reason for you to be grateful. I am fine with things the way they are, Of course you are. and it seems that most men are too More and more men dropping out of society, more and more men killing themselves. Yeah, I don't know about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 11:59 PM
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Honestly, I've not seen any data that says men overrate themselves. If anything, it's women who grossly underestimate men's looks - remember, 80% of men are "below-average" according to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 11:54 PM
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If you guys created everything all by yourselves, what do you need us for ? Bit of a non-sequitur. Also, seems like you owe us for all the killing, raping and destroying. We created civilization; it's ours to destroy if we so please. As for the all the killing and raping, you're the ones who've opted to turn relationships into the fucking Hunger Games - you can't then turn around and act surprised when men start acting twitchy. Even so, this arrangement has still worked quite well for you. Again…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 11:42 PM
1

Well, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 11:37 PM
2

And all women should collectively obey men because all men collectively built civilization only for women If not obey, at least show them gratitude. And pay them back for the hassle, of course. because all men collectively built civilization only for women with no help from women whatsoever ? Again, go outside and take a look around you. I'll wager that women built maybe 0.1% of everything you see. All the rest? All created by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 10:33 PM
1

Whatever it is they have that men would value and that they can give, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 10:11 PM
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Companionship, emotional support, sex. Whatever they have that they can give and men would value.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 10:07 PM
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Do you live in a big city? Go outside and take a look around you - everything you see, or 99.9% of it, is only there because men put it there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 10:02 PM
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>Men should rely on men for help This has never happened and will never happen. Considering everything that men do for women, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect women to offer something in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 07:28 PM
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>However the fact that married men are successful is but a mere coincidence, and not the cause of the success. Are you familiar with the principle of Occam's Razor by any chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 01:33 PM
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I already told you I'm not going to argue you. If you hang out at r/PurplePillDebate, you're a fucking loser, end of story. That's what I believe. If I'm wrong, great, good for you. But I think we both know I'm not, now kindly bugger off.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 07:01 PM
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You didn't really have any conviction Oh, I do. Believe me, I do. Everyone here, regardless of whether they're man or woman, is a fucking loser. I'd stake my house on that claim. But hey, if you don't agree with me, fine. I don't feel the need to justify myself to you. Like I said, I'm a loser and I don't shy away from it, and it was in my loserdom that eventually found my way here. If you're not, great, good for you - I do question how you ever came across r/PurplePillDebate in the first place,…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 06:27 PM
2

Man, I really got under your skin, didn't I?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 06:21 PM
2

They're on r/PurplePillDebate. What more proof do you need?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 06:14 PM
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>Except a lot of people tend to misappropriate statistics and mix up causation and correlation. Not to mention that the point of statistics and scientific journals is "look, we have some data, let's compare it with other results until a consensus is reached, not "this data is an iron-clad truth about the reality we live in that can't be disputed." Except the women here don't even have correlation on their side, and they're certainly not interested in comparing notes. >I haven't really seen any w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 04:30 PM
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Oh, no, don't get me wrong - the men here definitely are losers. The difference is most of us don't deny it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 04:14 PM
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No, the people citing trends and statistics are the ones in the right - the women rebutting with anecdotes are the ones who need to get a clue.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 12:37 PM
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Having a college degree doesn't automatically make you an intellectual, especially nowadays. >My point is that they are not the lower-class, single mother type that the manosphere likes to complain about. Some of them almost certainly are, but even if they're not, they're still losers. Otherwise they wouldn't be here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/20 07:40 AM
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>I’m under the impression lots of the male posters here are the epitome of not taking responsibility for their actions/mens actions. Male posters here are in no way, shape or form representative of society as a whole. Most of us are social outcasts. I'll shit on women all day since they rightly deserve it, but that type of attitude would've gotten me ostracized from polite society a long time. If I wasn't already ostracized, that is. >When a man treats a woman negatively it was her fault for not…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 10:29 PM
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Projection, that's all this post is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 10:18 PM
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The women of PPD are a great many things, but they're certainly not intellectual.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/20 10:13 PM
1

Men will take whatever they can get, as they always have.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 10:22 PM
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This is not representative of the dating market at any time throughout Human history. Seriously, in what fucking universe did women approach men 40% of the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 09:33 PM
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Being completely passive and have everything done for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 06:54 PM
1

Then this study is worthless - this sample is in no way, shape or form representative of your typical dating website.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 06:53 PM
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Impossible. Show me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 06:03 PM
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It's not reported in the study. The only thing that is reported related to this is the rejection/success rate of those who did approach, which is what I quoted. No raw numbers means no context. No context means we can't extrapolate anything from this data. It's a result from the study. See it yourself here. No proof then. Got it. It depends on how you define attraction here. If you mean purely raw, sexual lust, then I agree that these aren't the most attractive. Neither are the less attractive w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 04:20 PM
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But they almost never do, that's the point. This idea that Chad can just create a profile on Tinder, act completely passive and just have a buffet of bitches automatically rolling in for him is just ludicrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 04:14 PM
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I don't know who wekacuck is, and quite frankly, I don't care. Doesn't make your rebuttal here any less invalid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 03:13 PM
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Irrelevant all the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 02:22 PM
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>The majority of women who "approached" were rejected. Give me numbers here. How many women actually approached? Not just stats, actual raw numbers. >Despite women's pickiness compared to men, the most unattractive men can expect to hear back from the most attractive women with more than 20% probability I don't believe this. Is ths self-reported? Are attractive just saying they're willing to date unattractive guys or do you have any proof? >21% of women were never approached first. Implying 80% …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 02:18 PM
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>wekacuck, the genius of the western world who has only slept with one woman. ive slept with more women than him That is no great accomplishment - any woman can sleep with any number of men she wishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 02:06 PM
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The point stands. Chad isn't getting flooded with messages from women begging him to smash the way Stacy and Becky are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 11:13 AM
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Nope, sorry. If you want to live like a woman, you have to be a woman. Or an exceptionally attractive gay/trans guy, that works too I guess...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 09:26 AM
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What else is there to life besides fucking, anyway? If you give up on that as a man, you might as well just curl up and die.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 09:10 AM
1

Muh biology, brah.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 09:07 AM
0

What if no one likes you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 09:05 AM
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Unwanted female attention, being lusted after, being solicited for sex, They're alien concepts for top 5% males as well - female attention and lust is almost always welcomed by any man, and they're much more likely to leverage their good looks to get sex rather than having women solicit them. You seem to think that if you're a top 5% male, you can essentially live as a woman - you can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 09:01 AM
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This almost seems framed in a way to make it intentionally misleading. Don't get me wrong, I'm blackpilled af, but women almost never initiate contact on dating apps. The absolute best looking guys on Tinder get maybe maybe as much attention as a 3/10 woman if they're lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/20 08:57 AM
2

Been that saying this for a while - everyone here, male and female, is a loser. Because if they weren't, they wouldn't have found this place to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/20 06:38 AM
1

Yeah, I thought so.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 12:38 PM
1

Ok, show it to me then.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 12:35 PM
1

Bruv how am I going to produce evidence lol Shouldn't be that hard if there are so many ugly popular guys out there as you claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 12:32 PM
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Evidence. What did you think it was?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 12:30 PM
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It was rhetorical question. No I knew a lot of popular ugly dudes or average looking Everyone says that, but when I ask them, they're never able to produce.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 12:25 PM
1

Is "popular" just another doublespeak term for hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/20 09:37 AM
1

I literally can't tell if that's meant to be a joke or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 01:10 AM
1

While men who fuck do actually "surf the internet", they're not on r/PurplePillDebate. I can tell you that with confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 01:06 AM
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Statistically, blacks are slightly less likely to be incel, but it's not that big a difference. Plus, it's one thing for him to fuck, but for him to be "rawing tons of bitches"? I remind you he's named after a LoL character.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 01:05 AM
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Unlikely. He is on r/PurplePillDebate after all. And he's named after a LoL character - that's a pretty damning indictment right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 12:41 AM
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There are so many other factors of attraction for women Can you make your score visible just so I can downvote this comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 12:38 AM
1

It's not surprising. The average partner count for most people is like 6 or 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 12:36 AM
4

No, they'll let you hit it raw if you're hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 12:35 AM
4

Anyone who still denies the sexy son "hypothesis" is a brainlet. Good genes trump literally everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/20 12:34 AM
2

Not really. I think all this drama about male-only spaces is just MRAs and MGTOWs making a big deal about nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 02:22 PM
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At this point, it's not so much an argument as a statement of fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 06:45 AM
1

If you think we're actually having a debate, then you clearly don't know what a debate is. Thank your lucky stars everyday you were born with a cunt, my dear, because it's your only lifeline - you wouldn't have gotten by on your brains alone, that's for damn sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 06:39 AM
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You're the one who replied to me. Just fuck off already.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 06:35 AM
1

Great. Why are you still responding to me then?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 06:32 AM
1

You're presuming I believe: a) That you dated ugly guys in a high school or whatever because you're totes not shallow and care about personality way more than looks - which I don't. and b) That your husband is literally the most attractive you've ever met and you didn't compromise at all when you married him, which I sure as shit don't believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 06:26 AM
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You've given me nothing to refute. Personal anecdotes, by definition, cannot be confirmed or falsified. Go bore someone else with your bullshit life stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 06:19 AM
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You didn't admit shit, you made up some bs story about how you dated ugly guys in the past so you didn't come across as shallow. I didn't buy that anymore than I did anything else you've said here. You're right about one thing though; this interaction has gone on far longer than it needed. Kindly piss off now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 06:14 AM
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Again, you say while you're on r/PurplePillDebate, so no, I don't believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 06:09 AM
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Yeah, well, you're on r/PurplePillDebate. Forgive me if I have trouble believing your life is as grand as you claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 06:05 AM
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You've compromised way more than that, I'd wager. And you can spare me the usual spiel about how your husband is a millionaire supermodel who treats like you a queen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 05:59 AM
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Women are never going to feel like they compromised anything with the men that they choose. ​ I disagree. They'll absolutely compromise and they know it. They'll just never admit to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 03:27 AM
2

Sad part is you're probably right. I'm probably just coping.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 03:17 AM
2

No, you're just pretending, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 03:10 AM
2

No, it's the norm. Most women are asexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 03:05 AM
2

Women do obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/20 03:03 AM
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Many women yearn for sexless relationships, so I guess yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 10:31 PM
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You’re right, in order to observe mating choices in a scientific setting, those choices will ultimately have to be conveyed using spoken language. Great point. Then I guess it's impossible to study the mating habits of animals due to their inability of speech. Except not really? Did you even think that through before you wrote it? Please cite a range of studies that show women don’t value humor What part of "it's impossible to prove a negative" don't you understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 10:23 PM
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Hey, genius. If you take two random guys, and you say to women "hey, this guy is funny and the other one isn't, which do you prefer", you're still just asking them. Men are more attracted to funny women then women are attracted to funny men? Does that make sense? I've never made such claim. Humour is largely irrelevant when it comes to attracting a partner. Or, as I’ve gathered, you think women don’t find humor attractive. In that case, what do they find attractive? That's easy: good-looking guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 07:46 PM
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This isn't a tennis game, it's a debate. You've made a positive claim, I've disputed it, and you've provided me with no evidence to substantiate it. There's literally nothing for me to do right now. I actually quoted from three different studies, so I’m having a hard time believing you did your due diligence on each individual study. From what I saw, they were just asking women if they cared about men's sense of humour or not. As I said before, that's not good enough for me. Yes, I know women cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 07:09 PM
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So we got losers from all different stripes. Great. Open your fucking eyes already. Every man here is an incel or so close to it it makes no difference (whether they identify as incels or not is irrelevant), and the women are losers who would've been incel if they'd been born male.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 06:57 PM
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They're not "abstaining from relationships with women", they've been priced out of the dating market. That's an important distinction. It's also why they're not participating in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 06:44 PM
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I have plenty of studies that show what women actually prioritize in a partner (hint: it's not humour), but I'm not sure you understand how this is supposed to work - you made a claim, I asked you to substantiate it, and the evidence you provided me - if it could even be called that - was lacking at best. I don't have to give you anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 03:44 PM
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> "women sought a mate who could make them laugh twice as often as they offered to return the favor. Men, on the other hand, offered humor about a third more than they requested it." I already told you that women just saying they like funny men isn't good enough. It doesn't prove anything as far as I'm concerned. >Humor is a relatively reliable indicator of creative intelligence and women, as the choosier sex, use it to indicate desirable qualities in a partner. Intelligence isn't a priority for…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 02:29 PM
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His thoughts on women have nothing to do with it. If he's here, it's because he's at best struggling with them, and at worst an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 02:24 PM
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My experience is not anecdotal. Point me to any scientific piece of data that shows women care about men's sense of humour in any way, shape or form (that isn't just women saying they do.).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 07:19 AM
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I don't really have friends these days, but most of my closest acquaintances are female. >Has this friendship benefited you in a way that same sex friendship haven't? Difficult to say, it's incredibly difficult to make friendships with other men irl if you're a quiet introvert who's not into sportsball. >Has a friend ever tried to make sexual/romantic advances on you? No. >Have you ever felt attracted to your friend? Yes. >Do you stop hanging out when any of you gets into a relationship? Both of…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 06:58 AM
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>I have a lot of female friends; I've had a few make advances on me and dated a few as well. You're on r/PurplePillDebate. Forgive me if I find that difficult to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 06:55 AM
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The latter. >It’s true in my experience. I don't care about your experience. I've seen nothing to indicate that humour is a highly sought after trait in men by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 01:45 AM
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Because it's so obviously untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 01:36 AM
1

-Women value humor in a mate more highly than men value humor in a mate. Probably the funniest thing I've heard all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 01:25 AM
1

Humour is primarily a coping mechanism. Women don't need to cope, they've always had it pretty good.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 01:24 AM
1

Will should've just used an escort then. It's easier and cheaper in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 06:07 PM
0

Possibly, but they still get more than single men on average. See, that's the issue here - it's not that married men get tons of sex. It's that single men get even less sex than their married counterparts. Pretty much nobody's fucking these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 05:56 PM
1

Cool. Although I should also tell you that statistically married men are having more sex than single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 01:39 PM
0

Ime, MGTOW have never much cared for stats - that's more of an incel thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 04:56 AM
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>I'm always going to be making the exact same argument, I know, you people have been making the same argument for years now and you're just as wrong now as you were back then, so I'll keep setting the record straight whenever I can, but I won't indulge you any further. I just really wish you kept your coping to the MGTOW sub and spared us.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 02:59 AM
1

Perfectly calm.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 02:52 AM
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I assumed you were being sarcastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 02:51 AM
1

But you MSTOWS don't even have correlation on your side.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 02:49 AM
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Cool. The numbers are there, if you don't like them, too bad. Statistically speaking, you and most other men would be better off married than not. But again, it's not as if anyone even cares if you're better off or not, and I'm certainly not the exception that proves the norm here. Toodles.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 02:45 AM
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I'm not gonna have this argument with you again. This isn't about society, it's not about men or women, it's about numbers. If you don't want to get married, fine. It's entirely up to you. Men are killing themselves by the hundreds every day and no one gives a shit, do you honestly think anyone will care if you decide to get married or not? I'm just setting the record straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 02:34 AM
2

Yet married men are statistically happier, healthier, etc. than single men. Your sour grapes won't change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/20 12:47 AM
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No, they're not. Most men's profiles are what you would expect them to be, and honestly what they should be - straight and to the point. That's just an excuse women use not to come across as shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:16 PM
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Most bachelors are incels and losers, not Casanovas.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 11:13 PM
2

lities but the problem is that they're so far behind that it'd take months or years to turn them into a guy who can intuitively attract women. Incels say that even if they're charming and confident they still stand zero chance against hotter guys. But I guarantee that if I were to meet some incels in real life, none If we're taking our anger out on other people here, by definition we're not taking it out on attractive people. We don't want to punish attractive people anyway, they're just doing w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/20 10:49 PM
1

I don't even know if I'll be able to get married. Statistically speaking thoguh, if you're single, you're more likely to be an incel than a playboy, but I'm sure you know all about that already.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 05:04 PM
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What about my name, post history, or anything suggested to you that I'm a woman? If you don't want to, or more likely can't get married, then fine by me - less competition for the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/20 04:27 PM
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You’re basing it on a study that says sexual satisfaction is linked with marriage happiness. But taking that leap to believe that every marriage that doesn’t have optimal sexual frequency is de facto “miserable”. I'm not even sure how he came to this conclusion based on that information. It's a complete non-sequitur. This is just sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 04:33 PM
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No, it's not. All the data indicates married men are happier, healthier, live longer, etc. I don't care how much you MSTOWS keep banging your heads against this particular wall, the facts are simply not on your side.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 04:09 AM
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Women acting hysterical is nothign new.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:48 AM
9

I have, actually. I know first-hand how useless they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:47 AM
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>I look at a persons profile and select based on the personality, character, education, sense of humor and ambitions. I just have to ask: where you able to get through writing that with a straight face?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:30 AM
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And suffering no consequences whatsoever for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:29 AM
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Therapists don't tell you to man up, they tell you not to be angry or hateful - I would never ever tell any man that. We're entitled to our anger and our hate, and you are deserving of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:18 AM
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K, cya.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:15 PM
1

Yup. Totally. We can go back and forth all night if you like, btw. I've got time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:09 PM
1

Cool. Be off then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:05 PM
1

I'm not posting anything. How much longer do you want to keep going with this back and forth?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:48 PM
1

Then you're either not very observant or you're a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:46 PM
1

Go outside then - if you're as "reasonable" as you claim, it should be immediately obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:42 PM
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Again, even if I did all that (which I've already made clear I won't), and posted their photos here, you'd still say they're looksmatched or that the women are more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:40 PM
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Motherfucker, do I sound like someone who's on social media? I'm not about to create an account on fucking TikTok just to prove a point to some rando on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:37 PM
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Lolwut? You want me to go outside and start taking photos of every come couple I come across and post them here? Even if I did that, you and the other women here would still say they're looksmatched or that the women are more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:29 PM
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I'm not a woman, in case it wasn't obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:15 PM
5

It's a depressingly common ocurrence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 06:23 PM
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All women, even very ugly, old, ethnic and fat women, never have to put in effort to have sex with losers who just want to hit it and quit it. Yup, that's right. I know you're being sarcastic here, but that's absolutely how it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 03:36 PM
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Or more likely, liars. I'm not kidding btw. They've been trying to conduct studies on how porn usage affects men for years now. They can't do it because it's literally impossible for them to gather up a control group.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 12:36 AM
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Women are the selectors, they set the rules for the SMP. What men think and they want doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 09:23 PM
3

I'm pretty sure there are more women femdom writers than readers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 08:41 PM
5

Women don't want to be "dominant" - they want limitless freedom without any accompanying responsibility and they're getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 08:34 PM
2

I could ask you the same thing. Seriously, why don't you answer my questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:27 PM
1

It still makes no sense. Also just answer the questions, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:19 PM
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Again that torpedoes absolutely nothing since being proactive doesn't mean being confident. That literally makes no sense. Are women pro-active in relationships irl? Is it considered the "norm" for them to be? If the answer is to one or both of these is "no", then yes, it absolutely debunks OP's point. Okay, you actually never saw a porn in your life. A porn? That's not how you say it. Are you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:10 PM
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I think you're the one who's confused. First off, if the norm is for women in porn to be pro-active, that already torpedoes OP's point that sexual fantasies tend to abide by gender norms. I don't think I need to tell you that's not usually how things play out irl, nor is it considered "conventional" in any way. Second, you still haven't defined what you think dominance is in this context. >Men are also pro-active No. No, they're not. Men in these scenarios tend to be passive. That's also part of…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 04:55 PM
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Lolwut? The fuck you talking about? I mean, the fantasy they're selling - guess what? If women are pro-active and/or enthusiastically consenting, they're dicating the terms of the encounter. Except if you like to hamster yourself. Nope, no hamstering here. Nothing inherently submissive about rough sex as a woman if that's what you like - which is also part of the fantasy. And really, if you want "submissive" women who won't lift a finger or do a fucking thing, you got real life. You don't need p…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 04:41 PM
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If being pro-active and dictating the terms of the encounter isn't dominance, Idk what is. Dominance isn't just about whips and chains, or who happens to be on top. >Men are in charge in the vast majority of porn. Define in charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 04:13 PM
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I don't think so, I know that's how it is. Just look at porn - women are almost always the initiators. And even if they're not, they're at the very least enthusiastically consenting. Female fantasies, yes, I would agree are very gender normative. Almost comedically so. Men's fantasies however are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 03:14 PM
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>My question is, why do these fantasies follow the 'gender script' of the man being dominant and woman being submissive? They... don't? Seriously, the *majority* of male fantasies involve dominant or at the very least pro-active women - they just can't find them irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 02:56 PM
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If your "stats" are just women complaining about how hard they supposedly have it, then you needn't bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 08:55 PM
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I said women experience it too and in great numbers. And I asked you to provide proof of your claim and you didn't, and still haven't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 06:34 PM
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Suicide, homelessness, substance abuse, inceldom - I got them all. Which one would you prefer? Also, I'm not interested in your life's story. Give me an actual argument I can engage with or don't bother responding.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 05:40 PM
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I got stats - you don't. That's the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 05:30 PM
3

That still doesn't explain how a supposedly "attractive and extroverted" person ended up on r/PurplePillDebate of all places.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 05:23 PM
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im not complaining i was born pretty and extroverted, And yet you are on r/PurplePillDebate. That's hella sus.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 05:17 PM
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All insecurity doesn't matter because women are loved for existing. And it also doesn't matter if most of these guys love you because they just want sex. If there are 1000 guys and only 5 out of them are decent, that's still 5 guys to choose f Preach. How much of a fuck-up do you have to be as a woman to still fail when you've got everything going for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 05:12 PM
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Bullshit - if they exist but are otherwise imperceptible to us, then the burden of proof is on you. You can't just hand wave it away by going "you just don't see them lol" and expect us to buy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 04:16 PM
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I'm ok with this. "Men love women. Women love children. Children love hamsters. Hamsters don't love anyone."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 12:12 PM
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Men's attitude towards children is a lot like women's attitude toward their partners - we care for them, but under the right circumstances, it's very easy for us to cut them off.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 11:55 AM
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>We hear it all the time, women are the gatekeepers of sex and men are the gatekeepers of commitment. And it's just as bs now as it was the first time they said it - women are the gatekeepers of sex and commitment, men are the gatekeepers of status.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 05:47 PM
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It's what they want. I'm sure our fantasies are equally as disgusting to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 02:31 PM
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>Not many women would stay with a man who refuses to have sex with them. Lolwut? That's basically women's dream scenario - a good-looking, high status guy who won't pester them for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 02:05 PM
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Yup. Most men want to date genderbent versions of themselves anyway (where do you think shit like the Doomer Girl meme came from?), and I'm no exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 01:57 PM
1

You say that, yet you sound like literally every other woman here. Like them, you're only atypical in your ordinariness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 01:40 PM
1

Have you seen Rhea Perlman?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 01:25 PM
2

They're really not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 01:14 PM
2

There's nothing weird or strange about the women on Reddit - they're almost atypical in their ordinaress.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 01:12 PM
2

Yeah, none of this ever happened, did it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/20 10:13 AM
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>In Europe some men compensate for being ugly by having a great personality. You've clearly never been to Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:41 AM
4

You forgot autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/20 09:55 AM
1

Is being wanted even an option for most men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/20 01:43 PM
1

No.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 05:45 PM
1

It's PPD - we're all miserable here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 05:33 PM
0

You never see the women here crying about trolling, Right. Because people who troll them get banned for incel content. because they can spot the fakes a mile away. So can I, that's why I called you out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 01:08 PM
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So you're just gonna slink off back to whatever hole you crawled out of? Fine by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 06:18 AM
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Because Bill Murray pulled Jenny Lewis. Yeah, mu$t have been his awe$some per$onality. Honestly you just sound like a manipulative beta. And most people, men and women, would be smart to stay the fuck away from you. Again, personal attacks are no adequate substitute for an argument. Also you're contradicting yourself, again.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 06:16 AM
1

So to reiterate; bio and personality don't matter for shit. It's all about how hot you are. Why not just admit that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 06:12 AM
1

I swiped right on everything, same as most men on Tinder. And I got nothing, same as most men on Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 06:08 AM
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I'm not attracting any women because I'm not hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 06:06 AM
1

Then what's all this about? Honestly, if you’re fat and ugly but your bio is outstanding, what kind of women are you expecting to swipe on you? Have you ever passed over a potential partner because of their looks? Be honest with yourself, your expectations, and the expectations of others. What can you offer as a partner and what do you expect from a partner? All I ask is that you be consistent with your bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 06:02 AM
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Why are you pretending shit like your bio matters on dating sites when it's all about how hot you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 05:56 AM
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Seems to me like you don't have a argument and are down to resorting to personal attacks, mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 05:53 AM
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You're not even reading what I wrote, are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 05:47 AM
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Right, so like I just said; everything you wrote before is bullshit and it's all just about how hot you are. Why not just come out and admit that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 05:43 AM
2

Ok, so you've just admitted that everything you said before is bs, and that all that matters is how hot you are? Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 05:26 AM
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28 yo male, and hell no. I wasn't hot as a teen, and I'm not getting any hotter as I age surprisingly. This post's an obvious troll btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 05:05 AM
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You're obviously a troll - and not even a very good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/20 04:58 AM
2

Tbh, I don't get this obsession certain parts of the manosphere seem to have with same sex male friendships. I swear, it's like these people never had any same sex friends growing up. Male friendships are incredibly shallow and while they can be a fun distraction at times, that's all it usually amounts to - a distraction. Heck, if you're not into sportsball, most of your interactions with other men will be downright grueling.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 11:55 PM
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Nowhere. She's just talking out of her ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/20 11:45 PM
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Meh, not like I have a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 11:44 AM
-1

Alas, I'm a hermit - I hardly have any contact with human beings these days, male or female.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 11:42 AM
1

Mkay...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 11:39 AM
1

Look if you want sex as a reward for contributing to society then pay a prostitute. Already done that - and I didn't mind it because I actually got something of value out of that interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 11:37 AM
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No, they're not. Some individual women might, but women as a demographic most certainly are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 11:36 AM
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men as a group are net contributors into the system, women as a group are net takers I want you to explain to me very carefully what is it about this statement that you don't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 11:35 AM
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Really dude? Tell that to every mother on the face of the planet, and every woman with a job who pays taxes. I would, because it's true - men as a group are net contributors into the system, women as a group are net takers. Individuals are irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 11:34 AM
1

It's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 11:33 AM
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And again: I don't care. And again: it doesn't mean anything I said any less true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 11:33 AM
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You're probably not having sex either way, nsa or otherwise. At least this way, if you want to start a family, you have to find a man and treat him properly - instead of just mooching off the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 11:32 AM
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Which I'm expected to earn through labor because men are net contributors - meanwhile, women get their lifestyles financed by the system (i.e. us) without being expected to offer anything in return because you are net takers. Jesus fucking Christ indeed. Was every woman on this miserable fucking cesspit of a sub dropped on her head as a toddler or something? What is it about this you don't understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 11:30 AM
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Correct, men get access to public transport and schooling that they pay for through taxes because they are net contributors - meanwhile, women also get accesss to these things even though they don't pay for them because they are net takers. You see the problem here?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 11:28 AM
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No, it'd definitely happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 11:26 AM
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I’m assuming you’re talking about welfare. Both genders benefit from welfare. Also, as a tax payer, no one gets to pick and choose where their tax dollars are spent. Alright, one more time. I seriously don't know how much simpler I can make this: Women = net takers Men = net contributors Therefore, cutting wellfare social services will affect women disproportionately. And that's not even getting into all the social programs that are accessible exclusively to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 11:23 AM
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Just lol at the notion society takes care of men. I mean, really... Not having sex with you against our will is not trampling all over you, God. And men consider themselves the rational gender. Losing the privilege to have a physically weaker gender to boss around makes some of you hysterical. No, not giving me anything of any worth in return for my labor is trampling all over. If you don't wanna give me sex, give me something else. And if you don't want to give me anything, release me from my o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 11:18 AM
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If women didn't have welfare for single mothers they would be extra careful who they sleep with, and probably have sex only in marriage with rich men to be secure in a case of divorce. So what? There's barely any sex going on as is. Women are not promiscuous, and they've never been - giving them more benefits won't make them any more sexually open than they naturally are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 11:13 AM
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I'm ok with that - but then I shouldn't be expected to provide for a system and/or a group of people that cares nothing for me or my needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 11:11 AM
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Women as a group do not contribute - they are net takers, while men are net contributors. It's not unreasonable for men to expect something in return for their work.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 10:54 AM
1

I'm sorry, did you mean "open" their legs?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 10:42 AM
-1

That first half is also living off the work, sweat and tears of the latter one - I don't think it's unreasonable for them to expect something in return for their trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 10:40 AM
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Cut social services and welfare, and women will fall in line right quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 10:38 AM
1

Sorry, I misread what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 09:31 AM
1

No, reality tracks. It only seems like it doesn't when you don't have all the information. This is just nonsensical.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 05:27 AM
1

women cannot be so damned evil if men weren't so damned thirsty. This... doesn't track.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 05:00 AM
1

Besides the women and the mods who lord over it? No, not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 04:42 AM
1

It's more like 3:1 - but it doesn't matter anyway. The women there only want Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 08:23 PM
1

Sluts, yes, and rightfully so. Manwhores, no... and rightfully so.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 07:57 PM
2

Preach.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 07:47 PM
1

Forget the "virgin girl" crap - most guys can't get anything on Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 07:44 PM
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Sure. I mean, if you're a woman, that's the default.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 03:10 PM
4

This is just a really long-winded way of saying "just go out, bro". Fucking yawn...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 02:58 PM
2

True. Wherever you go - people are still people, and people suck. You can't escape.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 01:02 AM
1

Speaking for Western Europe here; it's exactly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 12:57 AM
1

Hear what?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 12:19 AM
1

Ngl, dude, this is bad. Like aneurysm-inducing bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 12:16 AM
1

Can we bring back the thumbs-down option just for this one thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/20 12:12 AM
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Yes.... thank you for agreeing with me? As I said, this only applies to women low in SMV (read the paper), which is why SSH is not a good theory for robustness. Right, meaning SSH is true. Thank you for agreeing with me. Effectively every speed dating study I've ever read uses questionnaires. Got one that doesn't that you use for evidence of anything? Yeah, but when your methodology consists solely of questionnaires - that's a problem. You can browse the citations within the paper I already link…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 06:26 PM
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The paper covers this. They can still easily find mates, but they can't find everything they want in a single mate because they don't have enough bargaining power, so they employ dual mating strategy. Now unless you can provide actual evidence, I'm not interested in your "layman's folk wisdom" as a conjectural disagreement to actual data points. Exactly, they seek out the most genetically-gifted men to sire their offspring, and use the rest as workhorses to help raise them. Again, SSH. Provide c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 01:37 AM
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Less attractive women. Women far lower on the RMV/SMV (if you subscribe to that terminology). No, that still doesn't add up. Even women who are low RMV/SMV can find mates easily if they're willing to date on their level - but they don't, because SSH. I already linked the paper and quoted relevant sections. I read it. You can too. Or you can ignore it and we'll just accept you don't have a counter-argument. At this point you're not giving me any reason to take you seriously. You linked me two stu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/20 12:36 AM
1

Why? You have competing evidence right in front of you from numerous sources. A research paper investigated a series of studies in support of SSH and found the evidence wanting. In fact, it seems to confer on the study I already linked above, which indicates that only women with few options employ a dual mating strategy. What is this supposed to mean exactly? Women with few options? Unless there's an actual lack of males in the species, all women have options. Now, I realize most women think the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 10:31 PM
1

I refuse to provide for or help raise a child that isn't mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 03:38 AM
3

So the paternal investment hypothesis is also baseless? Female primates biologically conceal ovulation for no reason whatsoever? Nope. I subscribe to the sexy son hypothesis - it's a real thing. Google it. You also didn't read the study closely. They reference an earlier study that found women's self-perceived attractiveness also translated to length of personal ads (more criteria outwardly expressed). I didn't read the study at all, frankly - once I saw how flawed their metholodogy was, I reali…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 03:26 AM
2

How is it confirmation bias? I just said I'm not willing to take women at their word on this matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 02:58 AM
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The metholodogy is flawed. This is subject matter both genders are known to lie about constantly (women especially so, but men as well). You can't take their word at face value.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 02:38 AM
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So women claim they value parental investment, and I'm supposed to just take accept it at face value? Mkay.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 02:28 AM
5

parenting skills There's no evidence that parenting skills makes one more attractive in the eyes of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/20 02:13 AM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 11:46 PM
2

I don't think incels are the only ones who take umbrage to being sent on a wild goose chase.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 11:28 PM
1

Money.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 09:14 PM
0

Ok, I can't really tell you to go fuck yourself, because that's against the rules. So could you please just leave me alone? K, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 08:54 PM
2

I'm not looking up anything. So-called "free love" is and always has been a lie - even when it was at its height, the rate of sex barely increased. It's all bluster, no substance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 08:53 PM
0

It's hard to be indifferent to them while I'm being forced to endure their ball-shattering stupidity and I'm not even able to properly call them out for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 08:37 PM
1

That’s like drinking poison and expecting us to die. That doesn't even begin to make sense, but then again, I've long since stopped expecting sense from the likes of you. Toodles.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 08:05 PM
3

Insert obligatory "Press X to doubt" meme here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 07:50 PM
0

I thought it to be obvious - I hate you, and all the women of PPD, and I want you to be as sad and miserable as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 07:49 PM
2

What can I say? Women of PPD have never been known for their intellectual rigor.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 07:41 PM
2

He really wasn't. He was slender and had an ok-ish face, but he was also short, hapa and surrounded by the most beautiful people in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 04:59 PM
10

There's no "scene" where women are sexually open to average or below-average looking men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 04:50 PM
0

No, they write articles on semi-reputable websites about how they're rapists and harassers who need to die.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 04:42 PM
-1

Good.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 04:38 PM
5

But instead of a sophisticated answer like this we get black-pill whinging and other pointless debates that try to make it black-or-white. Just because you don't like the answer doesn't make it unsophisticated - or inaccurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 04:32 PM
2

No. This is a sub about gender relationships and dynamics - and looks play a determining role in those. If you don't like it, you can leave - trust me, you won't be missed. Or you could just go whine to the mods to ban all mentions of looks as incel content. Oh, wait, they're already doing that. Nvm...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 04:30 PM
3

Implying you need to be "hot" as a woman to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/20 04:18 PM
1

I’m sure everyone has better things they could be doing, but you can say that about all of social media. Sorry, I'm not convinced. I've seen how well-adjusted people actually act on social media and where they choose to spend their time, and it's not in dumps like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 08:25 AM
1

Oh, I get. So you're another of those who are just here "for the debate" or whatever? Got it. The question stands though - why are you here then? Surely someone as happy and well-adjusted as you claim would have something better to do with their spare time?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 08:01 AM
1

Yeah, that's cute and all, but if you somehow managed to find your way to this cesspit of a sub then you must know on some level.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 07:51 AM
0

I'm sorry, should I have added in "attractive" as well just to make it that much more obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 07:48 AM
1

Yes. Normal, well-adjusted people don't even know what the red pill and the blue pill are, much less the purple one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 07:34 AM
0

I'm not sure a mere expression of disbelief qualifies as a personal attack.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 07:27 AM
1

How about all of the above?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 07:18 AM
2

Pretty much. Cougars are only into mimbos.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/20 01:59 AM
1

You grossly overestimate how much women value male friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/20 12:50 AM
1

Logic and rationality seem to be woefully underappreciated in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 02:09 AM
1

Where does it say anywhere in there that meeting a minimum threshold means "prioritizing? That's exactly what it means - if you have a minimum looks threshold, obviously looks are a priority for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 01:17 AM
1

You said, and I quote: " they have to meet a minimum looks threshold" - you prioritize looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/20 12:33 AM
1

Some people (like me) care more about other factors but they still need to meet a minimum threshold. So you do care about looks then. Great. That's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 11:46 PM
1

You just won't attract people who place overwhelming priority on looks. That's all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 11:09 PM
1

Completely disagree - attractive, "well-adjusted" people are some of the most ignorant when it comes to dating and gender dynamics. They're the ones spouting banalities aboing "being yourself" - bloops just repeat them because they know that's what you're supposed to say. Attractive people by in large do not know why they're attractive, and have no interest in finding out - they're too busy getting drunk off their own success.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/20 10:13 PM
1

Been that way for a while now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 05:32 PM
3

In b4 "banned for incel content".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/20 04:48 PM
1

Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 01:09 AM
2

Except for the part where science actually backs up what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/20 01:06 AM
0

If it was as easily accessible and risk-free as prostitution is? Yeah, I'd say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 10:28 PM
1

Go for it then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 12:42 AM
1

Realistically speaking, the chances of you ever being brought up on charges of solicitation are close to nil. Even in places where it's illegal, escorts advertise openly on websites and newspapers, and nobody gafs or does anything about it. As long as you don't shout it from the rooftops, you're pretty much golden on that front.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/20 12:20 AM
6

Can't men choose to have sex whenever they want, just by pay a prostitute? They could pay for sex, but they choose not to. If they can afford it - escorts aren't cheap, take it from someone who knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 04:25 PM
-3

My husband and I meet online through a dating site. Neither of us included a picture in our bios. We chatted for about 3 hours before sending a picture. r/thathappened
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 03:56 PM
4

Why do you doubt this?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 03:44 PM
4

True, but women are having less sex by choice, men are not. That's the real difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 03:34 PM
2

no, they are not "truth-tellers" I grant you they can be extremely inarticulate at times, but that doesn't make what they say any less true. and they definitely aren't smarter than your average PPD poster. You sure about that? I mean, it's not exactly a high bar to clear at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 03:01 PM
1

I can't get laid because I'm ugly - same reason all men can't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 01:29 AM
3

You don't much sound like a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 10:44 PM
5

I'm not convinced.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 09:19 PM
9

Just lol at the notion of any of the women of PDD ever sitting down to read a study.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 09:17 PM
8

You clearly haven't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 09:12 PM
12

Yes, they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:58 PM
5

I honestly wouldn't describe any of them as "cool".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:54 PM
3

"A couple"? That's all of them - this sub effectively's only got 2 mods.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:49 PM
5

She's established. And I know she hates my rotten guts, so don't think I'm a fan of hers either. Yes, she's part of the same privileged class you are. I expect you know each other quite well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:39 PM
4

You sure are quick to jump to their defense though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:38 PM
1

Pickmes only want Chad. Simp isn't Chad - therefore they don't date.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:37 PM
7

Ok, once more. Hopefully this time it'll stick: Yes, it is. The only mods who do any actual moderating are all female.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:30 PM
1

And what would that accomplish exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:27 PM
4

Sorry, you must have mistaken me for Atlas.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:22 PM
3

And then get banned instantly for incel content? Yeah, no. I'm sure you and your mod friends will come up with a pretext to get rid of me eventually, but I'm not gonna make it that easy for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:22 PM
7

The mod team is not exclusively female. Yes, it is. The only mods who do any actual moderating are all female. The men of PPD are pretty varied. True, though they are bound by their lack of romantic success. I am not going to speak for them but a good chunk either like to argue, like to stir the pot, A shame the women who run this sub won't allow it then.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:20 PM
3

"silencing the truth", "to fit your narrative". More because they're too weak to handle it. I'm sure the women of this sub would love nothing better than to debunk incels - they're just not smart enough to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:19 PM
5

Sorry, the truth doesn't go away just because you refuse to acknowledge it. That's not how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:18 PM
4

Yeah, I know you wanna argue with RPers because they're easy to debunk, but I'm not gonna give you that luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:17 PM
6

You're definitely dumb (your words, not mine), but evil? I'm not sure if I'd give you that much credit. How does the old saying go again? Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained away by incompetence?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:14 PM
11

Incels are losers. Case in point. See, this is all you and your friends could ever do when trying to debate incels - resort to petty name-calling. And you know what? Maybe you're right, maybe incels are losers. But you know what else? None of that makes anything they've said any less true. I've been part of RP and PPD for years. Yeah, like a metastizing ass cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:12 PM
5

It already is - most of it being posted by the mods' aforementioned circle of friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:09 PM
6

A vast majority of the PPD members are men and apparently men True. So why is the mod team exclusively female? who are having sex more often than the incels Not true. If you're a man and you somehow ended up on PPD, it's because you're not getting laid - no matter what you claim. the only person who can guide you to the truth that person is a lying toad. I never claimed that. The truth is out there and readily available for anyone to find - you know, you just cant' post it here because you'd get…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:08 PM
0

It's the truth. What else do you want me to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:04 PM
6

The sub would collapse and no one would come here. Loser's wouldn't even know what success looks like even if their behavior didn't get them banned. This is exactly what I'm talking about. I understand people like you benefit immensily under the current order - but that's part of the problem. You are a detriment to this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:04 PM
5

Under this mod team's administration, the women of this sub and their allies are effectively on purge mode all the time - whilst anyone who tries to respond to them in kind gets punished. They barely even bother to hide the fact that they play favourites. Oh, and now they've even banned incels from the purge, because even that was too much for them and their little circle of friends to handle. That's why I say we'd literally be better off with no mods; at least that way we'd all be equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 08:01 PM
7

Lolwut? Who the fuck did I attack?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:56 PM
5

The mods here are the best with the exception of a few calls about race or using specific communities to support one's position. No, they're not. They're fucking horrific. We would literally be better off if there were no mods at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:53 PM
12

Yes, they are. And that's why the women of this sub hate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:52 PM
9

Yes, it is true. You know it, and I know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:50 PM
4

Oh, but they were. Because they committed the worst offense of all - they made the women of this sub feel dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:48 PM
9

I've yet to meet an incel that knew the material he's supposed to know, debate in any sort of good faith, communicate effectively when pressed or even be constructive. That's because the exclusively female mod team of this predominantly male sub banned them all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:44 PM
2

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:39 PM
2

Letting only those willing to have a serious debate stay. Those are the main reason incels were banned in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:36 PM
25

During this golden age of PPD Some fucking golden age this is. You really wanna know why incels were banned? I'll tell you - it's because they're truth-tellers. They're also a might smarter than your average PPD poster, meaning the coven of hags that effectively runs this sub felt dumb and uncomfortable every time they tried debate them. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:35 PM
1

Unfortunately, at this juncture, any discussion worth having on this board would be shut down for "incel content".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:27 PM
1

He's really not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:22 PM
35

Incel adjacent content such as 80/20, the male sexless was epidemic etc. Just a reminder that stating simple facts is now considered "incel adjacent content".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/20 07:17 PM
1

It's also why I scratch my head when I see Redditors so frustrated about how the "typical" modern woman isn't compatible with their own lifestyles. I don't know why that should surprise you. Women as a group are extremely homogeneous when compared to men - meaning there are a lot of male personality types for which there is simply no female equivalent. And that's not even getting into women's ridiculous standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/20 01:07 AM
10

I think the point is: the men on PPD are notorious for completely missing the mark when it comes to figuring out what women consider attractive; as well as considering what makes themselves attractive Only because the ones who do get it get banned for "incel content".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 01:11 PM
1

As I said ... it's not exactly something you put on your resume. Even though that's literally what you just tried to do... again. But whatevs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 03:38 AM
41

TL;DR Be attractive, don't be unattractive. Gee, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 02:47 AM
1

Well, I got laid! :-D You've done what literally any other woman could do just by virtue of existing and being a woman - in other words, you've accomplished nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/20 02:39 AM
1

If you need money to attract women, you're "beta" - no ifs, ands, or buts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 11:26 PM
1

They always could, and they always have. You. Have. Accomplished. Nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 10:42 PM
1

Yes, they can, and they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 07:22 PM
1

LOL, well, I've never put "getting laid six ways to Sunday" on my resume, that's for sure! That's literally what you just tried to do. Playing the mating game was fun! Mating is not a "game" for you women. Anymore than shooting death fish in a barrel is a game - games imply challenge, some form of difficulty that players must overcome. I mean, I don't know of any game where you can "win" just by being completely passive the whole time. Once more and hopefully for the last time, you've accomplish…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 02:22 PM
1

As I said, men didn't seem as desperate back then But they were. Again, just to reiterate one last time because I really, really want you to remember this - you've accomplished nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 02:51 AM
1

The point is, the guy could have hooked up with any number of women that night, but you got him to choose YOU. Again, any woman can do this: just promise him easy sex, without him having to put any work into it, and he'll go for it. It's hardly impressive. Things were different in my day. Men could afford to be choosy; they didn't have to hook up with just any girl who would have them Men could never at any point throughout History afford to be choosy. We take whatever we can get - that's how it…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/20 01:33 AM
1

Sorry, gave it my best shot. I'm not sure what you're looking for here? How about a straightforward answer? How are you a predator if you're giving your "prey" exactly what they want? And please spare me your life story this time around. I wouldn't characterize it as a "great accomplishment," but I remember it as being a fun challenge to see if I could land the guy I was interested in. Except it's not a "challenge" - again, sex is incredibly easy for women to get, even with men above their stati…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 11:13 PM
2

Not even gonna try and answer the question then? Mkay. And most girls were, of course, angling for more than just a ONS. ONS/casual sex are what this thread is about - and for a woman to have a ONS/casual sex is no great accomplishment, even if the man is of higher value. That's my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 08:38 PM
1

If they weren't, feminism would have never gotten off the ground to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 08:36 PM
3

And that still doesn't answer the question. For an average-looking young woman, landing her dream guy took some effort and maneuvering. This is not true now and it wasn't true then either. Sex is and always been extremely easy for women to obtain - even with high status guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 05:09 PM
3

None of that answers my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 03:46 PM
0

No, men definitely do want women who'll sleep with them on the first date. For all our faults, we are honest with ourselves, and if circumstances permit it, with others as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 03:43 PM
5

How exactly are you a predator when you're giving your "prey" exactly what they want? Get over yourself already.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 03:35 PM
2

Actually, no. It was sold to men by women to get them on board with the feminist agenda. You lied to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 02:46 PM
6

Cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 02:45 PM
11

Women on the other hand take way more into account than just a man’s appearance. Who even still believes this at this point?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/20 12:05 AM
7

Her rule breaking is few and far between with a lot of high quality comments in between. And she doesn't act like an ass when the mods do need to remove comments or ban her. In other words, you personally like her and so has carte blanche do whatever the fuck she likes. I mean, I kinda knew that already, but it's always nice to know for sure. What do you mean nothing? It's a very controversial red pill topic. Don't like? What about anti-slut defense? No? How about shit tests? You know, actual re…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 02:04 AM
7

Atlas does get banned occasionally. Being offensive isn't the problem, it's personal attacks and uncivil behavior. Yet she keeps coming back - just like gonorrhea. Why is that, exactly? Can you even come up with another reason besides the obvious fact that you and the other mods favor her and like having her around? Literally anything else. Make a thread about dread game, it's been a while since we've seen one of those. So nothing then. Again, what are you even doing on this board?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 01:46 AM
9

If being offensive actually got ppl banned around here, Atlas and 90% of this board's female userbase would be long gone by now (and the board would be better off for it, btw). Nobody's buying it. We're seriously at a point where discussing male sexlessnes is considered incel content - in a board about gender dynamics and interactions. What the fuck can we even discuss anymore at this point?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 01:38 AM
5

"Being nasty" just means saying shit you don't like. Either toughen up or get out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/20 01:31 AM
3

Men: Sex. Genuine emotional connection and intimacy. Women: Status. That's pretty much it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/20 12:21 AM
1

I'm not wrong, but I also don't know how else to explain to you - you can't understand the difference between a sexual fantasy and a status fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 07:41 PM
1

Yeah, because WebMD is oh so reliable. Look, I don't know why this isn't getting through to you - my point stands: you cannot make a living selling sex to women, and there's scientific evidence to support this. An advertisement company conducted a study a few years back and found that women reacted negatively when they sexed up their ads. In short; women don't buy sex. Make of that what you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 07:29 PM
1

Many, MANY women find power sexually arousing. That is selling SEX to women. Yet they barely fuck them - that's the point. I don't deny that women find male power displays stimulating, but that's why I call these book "status fantasies". There's very little about them that's actually sexual, it's all about the social status that comes with attracting a high-value male. They are sex toys......for women. Who in the hell do you think are buying them? Do you see many men buying vibe eggs for themsel…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 06:35 PM
1

People have been bitching about "sexualization in comic books" since comic books have been around. Well, yeah, when people who don't even like comics to begin with come in and try to change their hobby, you can understand why comic book fans would get a little defensive. That's beside the point. Yes, the ripped man on the cover of DS is the same as the half naked woman on the cover of the latest DC comic book, even if she is holding a car above her head. It's selling sex. You keep trying to say …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 06:15 PM
1

"What do these half naked women actually do in these comic books? Very little fucking" Odd comparison. I don't think any men read comic books to get off the way women supposedly do with erotic novels - sure, the scantily-clad heroines and villainesses are nice to look at, but they're not the focus. When I wanna get my rocks off, I either watch porn or read actual erotic fiction, where the focus is on the relationship between the two leads - instead of, you know, holidays to Cancun, or just endle…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 05:53 PM
1

Again DS has ripped men front and center, on the cover. Often out in the woods or country. Not very expensive. And what do those men actually do in those novels? Lots of posturing, and very little actual fucking ime.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 03:42 PM
4

Meaning her "sexual fantasy" involves very little actual sex and lots of expensive vacations to exotic places and male showboating. Yup, that checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 03:18 PM
2

Those books aren't about sex - they're about status.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 01:52 PM
2

Yeah, plus you get privacy and escorts are usually nicer than strippers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 01:27 PM
6

Also in my area many do do extras or meet off the clock for paid sex. I read the reviews on these clubs in my local information exchange forum. I'd be more surprised if they didn't - you can't make a living selling sex to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 10:09 AM
7

Yeah, real talk, I never understood the appeal of strip clubs either. Like, just buy a prostitute - get some actual bang for your buck.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/20 09:30 AM
0

Men want sex and relationships, women want status.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/20 01:37 PM
0

Cut social welfare and child support. Literally the only thing you can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/20 07:34 PM
1

It's completely immaterial. Men have been wanting to mount women since the time when they were caked in dirt and their own feces - never stopped them before.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/20 01:56 PM
2

Because you're violating it right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 06:55 PM
3

Nah simpler explanation is that a lot young Americans are fat, which decreases your sex drive, sexual performance, and top of that makes it harder to attract the opposite sex. Unless someone has data which shows sexlessness also rising among young people in a country with a low obesity rate, I’m sticking to my theory. Are you familiar with the principle of Occam's Razor?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 06:49 PM
3

Women are the ones who want taller/stronger men. Men just take whatever they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 06:48 PM
5

more women seem to be unhappy with dating market or find it hard to get commitment they want. The point is they still have easy access to sex - their obesity hasn't really impeded them in any way. Let me introduce you to something called testosterone. There it is - that's the reason why men are sexless and being forced to do without. Because they're the only gender that actually desires sex, while women simply use it as currency to trade for other benefits. And since men have nothing to trade wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 06:40 PM
5

And? That suddenly doesn’t make obesity attractive. It’s unreasonable to expect people to find fat people attractive just because they are the majority. Excessive fat on the human body is unnatural. So what? Both genders became less attractive overall - hasn't really hurt women in any way. We already know it’s easier for women to get laid and men are more willing to lower their standards to have sex. And why it is easier for women to get laid rather than men, pray tell?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 06:32 PM
4

Because it's a red herring - again, women are obese too. Doesn't stop them from finding partners and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 06:23 PM
4

Will you shut up about the obesity epidemic already? Women are more overweight than men on average and that hasn't seemingly impeded them in any way. Men now are the same as they've always been, ditto for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 05:51 PM
2

I don't really care how women view themselves or each other - it doesn't affect me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 05:44 PM
1

Nothing women hate more than being reminded of their place in the pecking order. It drives them batshit insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/20 08:52 AM
2

If you were born '97, I'm pretty sure you're an older zoomer - not a younger millenial.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 08:47 PM
1

Never said that - there is however an increasing likelyhood that they won't, and an even greater one that they won't be able to do it regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 01:36 PM
1

Yeah. Honestly, you kinda are - doesn't invalidate any of my points though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 01:32 PM
1

explain mgtow Incels in denial. also not getting married at 18 doesn't mean 100% chance of never getting your dick wet, like pls read Considering the already considerable and still rising number of men being forced to do without...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 01:30 PM
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No man, regardless of age, chooses not to get his dick wet - you're just in denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 01:27 PM
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No, I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 01:19 PM
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not getting your dick wet is not an active choice, so they're not picking the heavy consequences choice Well, if they were married, they would be getting their dicks wet and they'd be better off for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 01:15 PM
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Your 18yo male isn't getting his dick wet, and that will have long lasting consequences on their physical and mental health. - that's why they're not carefree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 01:11 PM
1

no its not, it's bc 18yo are dumb and want to keep living a carefree life of light consequences Most 18yo males live neither carefree, nor happy, nor "light of consequences".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 01:08 PM
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what is so unphantomable about young men not wanting to get married, like have u met a young man Yes, I know they don't. But that's because they're laboring under the false belief that there's something better waiting for them out there - there isn't, and if they knew the truth, they would adjust their goals and beliefs accordingly. That's the problem, men are being tricked.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 01:03 PM
1

Are you being deliberately obtuse right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 12:59 PM
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makes no sense u just admitted no 18yo wants to be locked down Because they think they'll better off if they don't, that there's some grand adventure out there waiting for them, or whatever - which might be true for women. For men though, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 12:57 PM
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No, that is exactly the problem - before, girls were pushed to lock down a provider-type while they were still young for fear of the consequences. Not they're not anymore, and the inevitable end result is whole legions of men being forced to go without.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 12:53 PM
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Nowadays? Probably none. Give him another 10 years or so, and he'll be wishing he was given the chance. The sad truth is men were objectively better off in the time where people got married young and stayed married for the rest of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 12:47 PM
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no teenage girl thinks about "locking down" anyone, Not anymore, they don't. Again, that's sorta the problem. no teenage boy wants to be locked down !!! Men will take whatever they can get, as they always have.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 12:41 PM
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teenagers dating dont "trade sex for resources" And they know they won't have to in the future either, so there's no motivation for them to try and lock down a provider - that's the issue. boys are jerking off all day Because women want nothing to do with them. theyll tell you "the juice isnt worth the squeeze" Well, there's this river in Egypt...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 12:34 PM
1

Right!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 12:27 PM
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the data in no way shape or form expores WHY. Womens standards are rising and they no longer have to trade sex for resources, at least not directly, in most cases. This is not disputable. porn is sapping mens vitality and drive to ACTUALLY meet women. This sounds like pseudo-spiritual mumbo jumbo. More likely, it's just you trying to divert responsibility away from women. theres literlaly no argument you can make that will convince me otherwise, That's ok - you're just some rando on the Internet…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 12:26 PM
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Because they're not in a position where they have to trade sex for resources - pretty much the exact same reason women have refused to put out throughout History.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 12:21 PM
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Again, that doesn't seem to fall in line with any of the data - men are sexless, they're depressed. As a result of that, services like OnlyFans came about to try and fill that void. And the reason why they're sexless in the first place is because women won't fuck them, it really is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 12:15 PM
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Younger one, actually. I was born in 92.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 11:55 AM
2

Yah.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 11:54 AM
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Please show me a man who thinks porn and OnlyFans is an adequate substitute for real sex/relationships. Women are what's causing male sexlessness, just like they've always been. It's not porn, or videogames - it's women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 11:47 AM
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You've got your cause and effect backwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 11:40 AM
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Dick games. Men routinely exploit women's love for the innocent and young. They are innovative and adapt. Like a virus. Like AIDS. Just like women explore men's love for them. How does the old adage go again? "Men love women, women love children, children love puppies - there is no reciprocity."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 10:56 AM
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It's not promiscuous at all, actually. That's the contradiction - in this day and age, there's a lot of sexualized media content, but very little actual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 10:17 AM
1

How fucking weak and pathetic do you have to be to need SSRIs as a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/20 10:16 AM
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No, you're not. That's precisely my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 07:32 PM
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then you claimed fighting for dominance is not a biological imperative; It is not - "dominance" is a means to end. A way to get access to sex, shelter, food, etc. And if you already have all of those things, you have reason to fight just for the sake of fighting. That's what I've always said, and that's the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 07:29 PM
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Ok, let me rephrase it then - find me any anthropologist who contends that men with access to sex, food, housing, etc. is somehow not fulfilling his natural programming because he doesn't have to fight other men for all of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 07:22 PM
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Why make the comparison then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 07:16 PM
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Please find me any anthropologist who claims men feel a natural impetus to fight each other that is equal or greater than their desire to spread their seed to as many women as possible. Find me just one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 07:13 PM
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That's not a biological imperative for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 06:59 PM
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Of course I support them doing that. If you're not satisfying your biological imperatives, you are objectively failing at life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 06:42 PM
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Nonsense. I'm hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 06:41 PM
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Isn't it more your job to pursuade people to become pussy worshippers for some reason? I don't think men need much persuasion to follow their natural biological programming. Just saying...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 06:35 PM
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The point stands. It feels like you're trying to persuade yourself more than anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 06:18 PM
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Dude, I've had tons of negative experiences with women and I've never stopped desiring them. When you really step back and analyze it, you realize that pretty much everything men do is a means to get pussy. I mean, what the hell else even is there to life? The day I lose my desire for pussy is the day I take long walk off a short pier.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 06:08 PM
2

I just can't imagine any man ever looking at a MGTOW video or discussion forum and thinking "man, I wish I was just like those guys".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 05:55 PM
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Idk. MGTOW don't seem particularly content to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 05:53 PM
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MGTOW saves lives. You keep repeating that mantra on every thread I see you. At this point, I have to wonder if you're not just trying to convince yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 05:47 PM
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There's a lot of engineers, computer scientists etc making 6 plus figures that are still virgins or can't get laid, so thats right out the door. I did say successful and hot, didn't I? Often by successful women mean either filthy rich or well known/famous Pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 04:25 PM
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I find that as a man you sort have to develop a sense of humor to get through life. You know, learn to laugh through the tears.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 01:08 PM
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Ikr?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 11:50 AM
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'Tis simply a statement of fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 11:44 AM
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Tons of 'em. They all think they're hilarious. And if you ask them, they'll all say humour is the first they look for in a man - they're not, and it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 11:44 AM
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Most women are completely humorless, so being funny is pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 10:15 AM
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To be fair, men don't need to be funny or interesting either. They just need to be successful and hot - or just really, really hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/20 08:24 AM
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Literally nobody here believes that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 10:17 PM
1

Ok, so since you got nothing, let's just stick with the one I used. I mean, I honestly don't know what other you could use, but still...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 06:43 PM
1

What metric would you prefer?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 06:38 PM
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I have some theories, but honestly, I've kinda given up understanding the why behind most of their actions at this point. As far as I'm concerned, they're aliens - completely unlike me in every way. You can develop a scientific understanding of their behavior by observing them, but that's it. Ps, yeah they do, have you heard of Einstein, Tesla, Arichmedes? They're not known for their big dicks and n counts. Statistical anomalies. Ultimately irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 06:38 PM
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No, it is not. Something like 80% of net contributors into social security are men, whilst the large majority of net takers are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 06:35 PM
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As a whole, they do not. Women take a whole lot more out of the system than they put in.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 06:33 PM
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Status is for women what sex is for men, except men base their self worth on more than just sex. They do? Well, this is news to me. Going out and engaging with males would mean that they don't get pursued therefore lowers their social status Pursuing men is seen as inherently low-status - regardless of whether or not you're being pursued, and whether or not you're rejected by said men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 06:31 PM
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Yeah, generally speaking, it's not just handed to populace for free. You're expected to earn it, whether it be through labor or some other means... and earning money doesn't really seem to be women's forte. You're quite adept at spending it, but generally you still expect men to earn it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 06:29 PM
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Ok, that's totally fine by me, actually. Huh... still haven't answered where the money you use to pay immigrant men to work for you is coming from though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 06:24 PM
2

No, not really. But ok, whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 06:22 PM
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You mean because women's self-worth is based on nothing more than outside opinions and they can't handle rejection, right? No, I don't mean that at all. I mean that women care a lot about their standing in the female social matrix - status is for women what sex is for men. And approaching men lessens their status in the eyes of other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 06:18 PM
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If that’s not good enough for you, then perish. Immigrant men accept money as payment instead of demanding pussy Why do you think they agree to work for you in the first place? Or are you ok with their women having to give them pussy, as long as you don't have to do it? And again, I have to ask, where do you think this money you use to pay them is coming from? Hint: it's not coming from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 06:15 PM
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Because they don't want to, because if they do it, it'll demean their standing in the eyes of other women. That's their choice - if women want to approach, they can, and they'll experience greater successs than virtually any man could ever hope to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 06:13 PM
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I find it hard to believe how any man who stumbles his way to r/PurplePillDebate could still believe that. Women are the gatekeepers of sex and relationships, men are the gatekeepers of resources and potentially status.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 06:02 PM
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They are typically high-value women and high-value men respectively - so chances are they'll get together.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 05:58 PM
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Women, trans men, gay men, asexual men, and immigrant men will replace them and maintain the robots which will also replace them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, reee harder for me, why don't you? Look, the fact is whether you like it or not, you need us - and for as long as you need us, we'll keep demanding payment for our services. immigrant men Implying immigrant men are asexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 05:47 PM
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artificial laborers Maintained by whom?? and women Considering women already work significantly less than men, and are still bitching about how overburdened they are and that they want to work even less, that doesn't seem remotely believable. This is what we call "wishful thinking".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 05:42 PM
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But see, this is the problem, you women can't by on just the labor of the infinitesimally small percentage of men you deem to be tolerable - especially when so many of those men have far less motivation to work than the rest. You can rail against this fact as much as you like, but it won't make it any less true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 05:34 PM
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I’m not here to educate you on basic anthropological history or the fact that gay men are equally capable of the same industriousness as straight men This isn't about their ability, it's about their willingness and their numbers (or lack thereof, to be more precise). Your ignorance is exhausting Run along back to r/FDS then. And while you're at it, do everyone on this board a favor and stay there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 05:26 PM
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Since women invented agriculture, medicine and culinary sciences. Say what? Roboticists who accept money in exchange for work. If incels go on strike there’s still gay men and asexual men, not to mention female scientists. Gays are too busy fucking each other and asexual men are an insignificant proportion of the total male population - try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 05:15 PM
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Lolwut? Since when women have offered men resources or improved their standard of living? Robots will do the grunt work for less and won’t threaten rape as payment for services rendered And who will maintain these robots pray tell?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 04:50 PM
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So nothing then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 03:59 PM
1

Sure... YOU won't work hard because you feel work does not promise pussy. But you aren't everyman. True, but in this one regard, I very much am every man. But hey, if you're so confident in men's good will and our willingness to put others before ourselves, then by all means. Granted it's a somewhat unusual perspective for an FDSer to have, but still. I think you might be disappointed though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 02:38 PM
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Don't bother then. Drop out in small or big ways and only work as much as you need. It is fine. We're not actually in a time when job applicants are in short supply. Someone else who thinks that the opportunities you pass up will actually be the making of them will take up those opportunities. The opportunities will not be wasted. Actually, no, they won't. Like I said, men will only work hard for the promise of pussy, and women won't work hard no matter what, so yeah... there it is. If you're di…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 02:16 PM
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You still don't get it. Who cares if I'm my employer's "least valued player"? If I'm not getting pussy, all I need is money for food, housing, utilities and entertainment. That's it. Nothing else matters. Or hell, maybe I'll just go on disability and live off the system like women do. Again, what does it matter? Pussy is the only reason men are inspired to go above and beyond, and I'm not getting it, so why should I bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:47 PM
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Quit your job like you are saying dudes will do en masse... and you'll discover your other wants soon enough. You really don't understand, do you? Men don't even need to quit their jobs. All we need to stop is cut back on our excess productivity, which is literally the only thing keeping society afloat, and you'll be left with nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:27 PM
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And that seems like the type of response I'd get from someone who's run out of arguments and is now resorting to personal attacks in the desperate hope of getting a rise out of me. But yes, you are not wrong. As a man, and therefore someone who has no vested interest in society or its continued survival, I expect to be compensated for all the work I do prop it up. It just so happens the only thing society has to offer me in return - indeed, the only thing I actually want - is pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:12 PM
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And if men were left to their own devices in the absence of women there would be no more people. Correct, women make life worth living for men. But that point stands that women cannot live without men - and I mean that in the most literal manner possible. Whether you actually like men or not is completely immaterial. Lol, a lot of you metaphorically shit yourself and then literally die in your mid forties of obesity, rage, diabetes and despair in piles of your own fast food detritus once cut loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 01:01 PM
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Why don't you go out and take a look around you sometime? Literally everything you see - every building, every road, every car - everything was built by men. If women were left to their own devices, you'd all be huddled up with your brats in a cave somewhere waiting for some beastie to come make you its dinner. A guy with a wet dick cares a whole lot less about guys with dry dicks. So you think you can get by on the labor of the top 20% of men alone? As for your other point, the only reason buy …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 12:28 PM
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Testosterone. That is all, you can close the thread now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 11:39 AM
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FDS is full of black single moms, a.k.a. the absolute bottom tier of women. It's basically the female version r/incels - yes, they may be more "successful" but they failed as much as a woman can realistically fail in our society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 11:34 AM
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Careful now. Much as you'd like to pretend otherwise, you and women are completely dependent on the labor of these so-called "low value men" for your survival. If you're not willing to give them anything in return for it, then you and your offspring better get used to living in the wild, with no power or running water, and serving as snacks for the local fauna because they sure as hell aren't going to offer you protection out of the kindness of their own heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/20 11:24 AM
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Women actually prefer men with high n-counts - it's a telltale sign of a high-value man. They absolutely will care if your n-count is lower than it should be though, I can guarantee you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 06:23 PM
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There a lot of men who basically start out with nothing, as they grow older, some of them may accrue resources which gives them some bargaining power in the SMV. Of course, being "betabux" is far from ideal in the minds of most men, so they opt to delude themselves instead. If you're an ugly kid, chances are you'll be uglier adult - exceptions to the norm exist, by they are exceedingly rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 06:13 PM
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Would you be offended if she went oh thanks but no thanks, I’d rather have someone who knows what they’re doing. I'd be "offended" at myself - for my own stupidity in coming out and admitting it. Women like men that have been vetoed by other women, I won't pretend to understand it, but that's just how it is. Just lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 06:02 PM
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Goddamn, that hurt my brain to read. Just the other day I was discussing with an acquaintant of mine who is a high value man and he basically let it slip that he dumped a girl because they did everything on the first date and he felt that there was no use in pursuing her anymore. He admitted it. Ok, first off, this never actually happened. Moving on. If anything, it is low value men who don't want to chase. They are used to get everything the hard way so they get pleasantly surprised when a girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 05:49 PM
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