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Um, tbh I'm not even sure how to answer this. I mean...idk how to explain appreciating someone's unique humanity, and I can't put myself in a headspace where I can imagine negating delight in the little details of someone to whom I'm really attracted. Your comment reads like resentment to me, and I suspect it's a justification for an inability to establish meaningful connections with others. Particularly since you seem to think that someone is saying they're better than you, which is a very odd …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 09:21 AM
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Maybe, feminists can try to have some empathy for things they may not completely experience themselves? Even if it makes them sort of uncomfortable. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Wow, it's like I've heard this somewhere before...where was it...🤔 "Compelling and rich." - Rob Burgundy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:50 AM
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Adorable!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:01 AM
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Hey - serious question: what is it that you think women should/could do to improve men's situation? You blame us for everything and complain about us constantly, but I can't remember ever seeing one of you offer a solution. I'm interested in hearing what women are supposed to do. If you're feeling extra, you can also make a case for why we should bother doing it when you can't even admit to the most obvious gender problem: the amount of violence men inflict on women. And you know what the most h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:00 AM
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What the fuck are you talking about? I didn't say any of that shit. Who's talking about women "opting out of society?" All I'm saying is that we are going to keep pushing for equality - "moving on" as in "continuing to work." Why do you need to be a victim so badly? so let's start hearing how you're going to help work to be our equals We've been doing that since 1848 and have left a mountain of written evidence. If you want to know, then stop crying and start reading. Or else keep on sitting the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 12:50 AM
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Whenever a man reads this, he can be certain that the person is starting from a “men are defective women who need to be trained to be better feminists” position. Um, what? Which influencer did you get this from, bc I've got about 4 shelves worth of books about gender and I've never read anything like this. So if someone is telling you that's what "feminists think," you're being lied to. It is true that all embryos are female for the first six weeks, but developing into a male in no way makes the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:02 PM
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This is so wholesome and adorable, I love it! ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 09:28 PM
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:) and I grow stronger still. Please continue!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 06:14 PM
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I get a lot out of listening to men talk about their challenges and feel privileged when they open up to me about things I know it's uncomfortable for them to talk about. I believe that men are every bit as valuable and important as women, that patriarchy damages many men just as badly as it does women (although in different and more subtle ways), and that men who have learned how to overcome that damage have a lot to teach feminism and the world as a whole. The problem I have is with men who: r…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 05:41 PM
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That's really interesting, I wonder how it developed.
/r/ExRedPill04/10/23 03:47 PM
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Although cultural differences motivate my questions, my cultural background shouldn’t matter in principle. Presumably we all have similar neural hardware that drives our evolutionary incentives. Agreed, I just would have been more flexible in my interpretation. It would have been in the back of my mind that we might hit little communication snags or have slightly different terms for things - minor things like that. I’m not exactly level headed in my arguments and can come off as a jerk. I can de…
/r/ExRedPill04/10/23 02:14 PM
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It could be the women, but none of the studies I've seen about that have mentioned specific parents. Both are conditioned to reinforce that kind of fucked up thinking onto little boys - fathers don't want their sons growing up to be "Mama's boys" either, right? And in any case what we're talking about are subtle, unconscious thought processes. Very few people are evil enough to do this shit to a baby deliberately. It just shows how fucking pernicious gender roles and male supremacy are, it blows…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 02:03 PM
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Hey, I owe you an apology. I didn't know that you were Indian, I just assumed you were an American like me and ended up misreading some of your comments. That was really ignorant of me and I know better, I was just being a pissy asshole. I'm sorry that I gave you a hard time, and I hope you'll accept this apology.
/r/ExRedPill04/10/23 01:02 PM
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Sigh... we're all works in progress. Thanks for teaching me something today 😊
/r/ExRedPill04/10/23 07:25 AM
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his being (purportedly) an Indian Omg - this makes so much sense: it explains why I misread his comments. My ignorant ass just assumed he was American, too (which is the most obnoxiously American thing to do, too, uuuugggh...) so I wasn't thinking about whether he was a native English speaker or trying to read what he was saying in the context of what I know about Indian culture. I feel so bad! 😞 I need to send him a message and apologize.
/r/ExRedPill04/10/23 07:12 AM
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This was an interesting comment, thanks for taking the time to explain. A lot depends on what he means by "imaginary women." If they are truly women he is dreaming up with his imagination, then whatevs. It's odd that someone who feels this way would decide to get married - he sounds really conflicted, but that's understandable if he's still deconstructing his masculinity/privilege. I'm sure that is just as tough as it is for women to confront themselves when they start getting into feminism. I w…
/r/ExRedPill04/10/23 06:28 AM
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No - this is bullshit that I've seen several guys using lately. One of their grifting influencers must be feeding it to them - idk who, I don't have the time or patience to keep up with that stuff anymore. But whoever it is, they're a reprehensible piece of shit who is telling men not to try one of the things that they need the MOST. It's fucking infuriating. There is absolutely NO REASON that therapy "doesn't work for men." I have several male friends who are much happier and healthier because …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:32 AM
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1,000,000% yes. They've been forced to suppress most of their feelings and so haven't learned how to deal with them. Women are free to express theirs (most at least - can't be too angry or the menfolk get nervous, which I find quite interesting) and so cope with it better. Emotions are meant to be expressed, they serve real, important purposes. It's bullshit that we shame men for being human, and anyone who does that needs to stop. However, it's also bullshit that I see so many men complaining a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 02:56 AM
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Fictional women in a book, from your imagination, from pictures...? Sorry - I'm not trying to hound you, it's just that info may be important to my answer.
/r/ExRedPill03/10/23 11:27 PM
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I agree that they likely don't have a lot of life experience and that they may not perceive their own ignorance. I think it would be asking a hell of a lot from a man to expect them to comprehend the amount of misogyny that exists in our culture - I learn new things every week, and I have 4 shelves full of gender literature. So I'm sympathetic to that. What I'm not sympathetic to is their refusal to lift a fucking finger to do any of their own work about this stuff. They know a lot of men are re…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 08:41 PM
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What do you mean by fantasy women?
/r/ExRedPill03/10/23 08:12 PM
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"Boo-hoo-hoo, it's all women's fault, why won't they mommy all of our problems away and wait on us hand and foot so we can keep being happy little remora??" Women can fuck whoever they want, for whatever reason they want, whenever they want to, and how men react to that is ON THEM. Guess what, guys? Behavior has consequences. If you can't be bothered to adjust accordingly, then you get what you get.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 05:00 PM
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I certainly have no idea how to relate to women on the most basic level. And I am turned off by real live women if I get to know them. But why label that as “damaged”? Because you don't see us as actual human beings, you have no capacity to empathize with us, you have no interest in anything about us aside from a little 3" tube of mucus membrane and muscle --- which wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing except you still expect us to fuck you. It's insulting when men feel entitled to the use of our…
/r/ExRedPill03/10/23 04:41 PM
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I honestly don't think they read anything at all. They just watch their influencers - when the spoon of bullshit stretches forth, they just open wide and swallow it down. No critical thinking, no individual investigation, just endless, pathetic, entirely undeserved self-pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 07:19 AM
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LOL! This is actually entertaining me now, so thanks for that. Once again: I don't give a fuck what the pants-pissing incels want me to do/say or don't want me to do/say. They do not factor into my decision making whatsoever. Do you seriously think that women sit around and agonize over what some bullshit pornsick jack-off artists will think about what we're planning to do/say? You guys can't even start a fucking conversation with a woman, why do you think we look at you as an authority on anyth…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 07:04 AM
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I honestly don't think you get it: I don't give a fuck what they want or don't want. Why is it so fucking hard for men to understand that our worlds actually don't revolve around them??
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 04:06 AM
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Like there's something they WOULDN'T rebutt? There is absolutely NOTHING that any woman can do or say that those men won't cry and whine about. Literally nothing. So I stopped giving a shit. They just hate women but are too fucking cowardly to actually say it, so they pout and claim to be so persecuted and blame everything on women in hopes that we'll come along like mommy, kiss their booboos, and make everything all better. Meanwhile, as they're accusing women of "misandry" this and that, they'…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:56 AM
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Like I said: I couldn't care less. They're all misogynists, so I'm not going to flatter them or waste precious seconds of my time giving a shit about their nomenclature.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:06 AM
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Tbh, I couldn't care less about who prefers to be called what - you all say the exact same shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 12:54 AM
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Great explanation. Just another way TRP bullshit makes men's problems worse by reinforcing problematic behavior. I'm so bummed this shit happened. Between incels and porn, I don't see men the same way anymore. I don't assume they're most likely friendly like I always used to, I try to avoid them because I don't want to be around men who jack off to violent misogyny - why in the fuck would I?? Why would any women? It blows my fucking mind that men don't get that, and I'm tired of this shit being …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 11:17 PM
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I don't have any answers, but here are some theories off the top of my head: Men are deeply insecure, but insecurity is a feeling and men supposedly don't have feelings and expressing their feelings might get them mocked by other men, so they just blame it all on women. They're projecting their own inability to establish meaningful emotional connections with women. Anymore I just assume this is because they're so damaged by porn that they truly don't know how to interact with real life women. Ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 09:02 PM
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It's normal for people to go through a period of going the extra mile for their partner in the beginning of a relationship - it's new, you're in love, you want to be with them all the time so you're more willing to go along with whatever they want to do. STOP BLAMING WOMEN FOR EVERYTHING THAT HURTS YOUR FEELINGS. When you try to make everything women's fault, you're just sitting around waiting for mommy to show up and fix all of your booboos.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:51 PM
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The problem for many seems to be that they don't approach them. But sure, keep feeling sorry for yourselves and blaming women - that will fix everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:31 PM
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Yup. It's a waste of time. I'd rather watch paint dry.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:25 PM
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I can only speak for myself, but I've largely stopped bothering to interact with the incel/red pill types. It's a total waste of time, and here's why: incels aren't actually interested in a real debate. I literally can't remember a single time i've seen one of them change their minds about anything, and there have only been a handful of times I've seen them even concede a point to someone. All incels want to do when they pretend to "debate" is to vent their hatred and resentment towards women in…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:23 PM
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And I’m not sure why such a huge disconnect exists from a simple fact: knowing someone well destroys attraction. If you're referring to some couples struggling with sexual attraction over the course of a long term relationship, then that is a very well-known phenomenon that is not true for everyone. It sounds like you're saying that knowing someone on a personal level at all destroys sexual attraction. If that is true for you, then go for it; you do you. But it is not the way most people feel. I…
/r/ExRedPill02/10/23 08:00 PM
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I love when men pretend to know what radical feminism is about. I can tell how threatened the mere words make you feel by the bizarre and asinine beliefs you attribute to us. Since you clearly don't actually know any of us, I choose to identify as a radical feminist because it is the feminism that allows me to advocate for men's liberation as well as women's - something that has been very important to me ever since feminism taught me how patriarchy fucks men over, too. I'm a radical feminist bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 02:58 AM
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IT'S THE MAN'S FAULT FOR RAPING HER FUCKING KIDS!!! It is un-fucking-believable that so many people are immediately willing to blame the mothers. Smh. This is a new fucking low.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 02:42 AM
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the person most likely to abuse a child is the stepfather, or "mom's new boyfriend". when single parents find new partners. This is 100% men's problem that has nothing to do with single moms. The REAL question you should ask is why men can't stop raping/abusing their girlfriend's fucking children. This post was pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 02:40 AM
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. Because of the lack of dating with the majority of men, who are feminine and weak due to modern comforts, there will be a record number of mass murderers and suicides- an "incel uprising". The feminine/masculine binary of human characteristics is totally made up and has changed over and over again throughout history. This contains the misogynistic implication that women are inherently weak. We may lack the amount of muscle mass and upper body strength that men typically have, but that's about …
/r/ExRedPill01/10/23 01:01 AM
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LMAO, uh sure...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 12:31 AM
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I hear what women say when men aren't around, and I can assure you that porn is way, way, way, way much more of a problem for men than whatever leverage is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 03:09 PM
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I can assess a person's intelligence on an individual basis without making a bunch of generalizations, for one thing. I would like to be judged on my merits as an individual, so that is how I try to judge others. There are just as many brainwashed QAnon fascists with college degrees as there are without. Additionally, what does intelligence even mean now that AI is out in the world? What am I really judging someone on - their ability to cut and paste? Their ability to craft a good question? I do…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 12:18 AM
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You're welcome :) My ex-bf was a Colombian migrant who had to quit school at 11 in order to help support his family - he had a perfectly normal intelligence and he treated me great. Book smarts aren't everything in the world :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 12:03 AM
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Absolutely not!! School isn't for everyone. While intelligence was high on my list of things I looked for in a partner, one can be intelligent entirely apart from being educated. I find that someone having curiosity and taking interest in the world is just as good as being highly educated and/or intelligent. Our education system is bullshit, and no one should be judged based on how they fared in such a rigged game. There needs to be more vocational type schools for people who excel with alternat…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 11:57 PM
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The manosphere needs to worry about men and fatherhood. Period. They have nothing to add to a conversation about women and motherhood right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 03:05 PM
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Not only is it incoherent, but it's giving men "advice" that is 100% guaranteed to make their problems even worse. I'll never understand it. It's like as long as they're told what they want to hear, those guys brains completely shut off and they'll go along with anything. All the manosphere/RP grifters should fucking be ashamed of themselves, bc they don't give a shit about men and are taking advantage of their pain and suffering. It's disgusting.
/r/ExRedPill09/09/23 02:37 PM
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Yup. Now that I've seen internet porn and know how many men use it, I wouldn't touch a man with a ten-foot pole anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 11:19 PM
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pat ourselves on the back how we aren't that bad actually cause we aren't actually raping everyone, and therefore we have excellent impulse control! Okay, I understand and appreciate your explanation. Now I would appreciate it if you would read my explanation. Every time women bring up rape, men get instantly defensive and start telling us we're liars and that men are the real victims bc of the 3 false accusations made every year, and how _% of women like violent porn so it's not really rape, et…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 09:13 PM
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Maybe there’s a girl out there that’s up for dating a tech geek There is. Some of us are into nerds. This country is so fucked - all anyone cares about are their looks, which they're never happy with so they do all kinds of fucked up shit to themselves until they look like Ron Perlman sculpted out of biscuit dough, and what's the point? We're all gonna look fucked up when we're old anyway. I'd 1,000,000% rather have a nerdy tech guy that could make me laugh, who actually gave a shit about the wo…
/r/ExRedPill06/09/23 07:25 PM
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A) "Buh-Bye! 👋 Don't let the door hit you where the good lord split ya!" B) It's almost like there's a pattern here 🤔 C) It's like colonialism in reverse 😂 White men have privileged themselves into incompetence because so little has ever been expected of them. Now they're just shuffling from one developing nation to another, desperately searching for some woman to relieve them of the rest of their responsibilities so they can... idk what...stick a fork in their lap top, turn into pure energy, an…
/r/ExRedPill06/09/23 06:34 PM
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I'm right there with you. There are so many awful, worthless people in this country. I'm tired of having to exist in a world so ugly and no one gives a shit about anything. Just the fact that there are so many women suffering so much humiliation etc for no other reason than for these selfish, miserable little narcissists to jack off to honestly makes the world not worth living in. It cheapens everything - love, sex, humanity, just being able to trust strangers. They ruined everything.
/r/ExRedPill06/09/23 05:38 PM
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🎉💥✨ we have a winner!
/r/ExRedPill06/09/23 04:59 PM
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when you see the RP gurus talking to women, you can see what underconfident and uncharismatic pussies they are. Their confidence only exists in their echo chambers THIS!!!! Why do they even buy the shit Tate etc are selling?? It's NOT CONVINCING. Wait...omg, maybe Tate is an insecure misogynist's idea of an enviable, successful stud in the same way that Trump is the MAGA fascists' idea of a rich, successful businessman...omg, we are truly living in "Idiocracy." Ugh...maybe I'll just die in my sl…
/r/ExRedPill06/09/23 04:58 PM
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And when none of that comes true for those men, whose fault is it.....? 🤔 Oh great comment, btw!
/r/ExRedPill06/09/23 04:45 PM
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Didn't read. Don't reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 04:41 PM
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fuck you, my mom and her generation on the Persian I don't care where your mom is from, it doesn't change anything about what you're proposing and why. And fuck you too - I never made personal attacks at you in that way. You took it there because you were embarrassed by being called out on your bullshit, and that is the end of this exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:14 PM
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If your argument requires me to agree that men "aren't raping women en massé to get what we want," then I absolutely do not agree. How about men just never, ever, ever use rape as an example of their stellar self control? It is not a good look. And that is all I have to say about this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:09 PM
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Here's the thing with these Christo-fascists: they project everything they dislike about themselves onto everyone else. Guess what? Red states consume the most porn in the US. They don't hate trans people per se, they hate themselves because they want to fuck trans people but think they can't because they're all fucked up about sin and the sky wizard. Homophobic men are more aroused by gay porn than non-homophobic men. The more homophobic they are, the harder they get. Trump does it on a more or…
/r/ExRedPill06/09/23 02:03 PM
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That both surprises and disappoints me if true. But it wouldn't be the first time. It might also be that I'm an odd duck in that I often fantasize about some kind of cooperative movement where men and women could work together for their mutual liberation. I fucking hate all the fighting and bitterness that there is now, it's doing nothing but drag us backwards, and we'd get a lot more accomplished if we all put our brains together. Plus feminism already has the organizational structure and lobby…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 01:04 PM
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for humans it's likely not a matter of race or DNA but rather unhealthy and harmful ideologies which natural selection helps to prevent to be passed on to future generations. Kinda like all the MAGA fascists who killed themselves because they were too macho and tough to wear a "face diaper" and get the vaccine? And then tried to overthrow the government because they were butthurt that they lost the election, but have never gotten around to realizing that if 500,000 of their fellow fascists had f…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 10:58 AM
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Interesting! Where did you get the quote? I want to read more
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 09:47 AM
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Passport bro out to a less developed country That's not elegant, it's exploitation and it's super gross. The main reason a man would go to a developing country on this mission is to find a woman who is vulnerable, which he assumes will make her more compliant. I'm pretty sickened by this kind of behavior, to be frank. It's a really bad look for men. I feel like a lot of guys who adhere to the RP ideology somehow want to feel like everyone hates them, and it's like they continuously have to remin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 09:31 AM
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What is an alpha window?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 07:38 AM
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Then what do you propose will help them and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 07:37 AM
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Well for one thing, I'm not interested in being any man's therapist - went through that with my ex and it was dreadful. And I'm not sure what you mean by cathartic therapy...? I just tell my therapist how my week was, if I had any ups or downs, and what I want to work on and then she suggests different things to try over the course of the next week. Actually, now that I think about it, that's how they've all been. I'm struggling to see how that wouldn't benefit men just as well. Why do you think…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 06:52 AM
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Hypergamy isn't biological though, it's definitely societal Totally. The most significant difference between humans and other mammals is our capacity to learn, which is why we lack the instincts with which animals are born. It is also why we are born so extremely immature compared to most other mammals - we're just barely able to squeeze through the birth canal because our brains/skulls are so huge. I also think it's significant that the vast majority of people I see/hear who say gender roles de…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 06:19 AM
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For real, it's crazy out there. It definitely sounds that way. I can't even imagine trying to date now, it seems like a flaming shit show.I feel bad and somewhat distressed that so many younger people are struggling to meet one another and to connect on a personal level. My visibility into much of what is going on isn't that great because I'm 45, don't have kids, and don't watch tv, but I've recently started interacting with a few young men who are borderline red pilled but very sweet. I feel re…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 03:43 AM
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Men are brutish, greedy, and impulsive by nature I know plenty of men who are none of these things. C'mon now - if a woman had said this you'd be calling out the misandry. I know you didnt mean it this way, but it sounds like a premeditated excuse for bad behavior. Don't sell yourself so short. :) FWIW I don't believe women should settle or be hampered I simply disagree with the argument "its just our biology deal with it" when the mark of an educated person is recognizing unfavorable traits and…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 02:47 AM
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I can respect that, although I disagree w much of it. Idk, my husband very much appreciates having an equal partnership with a nontraditional woman - it comes with a lot of benefits for him. We went back to school together before we got married and, as I graduated earlier than he did, I went to work. With my first check I bought him a new set of Titleist clubs because I was so excited to be able to get him something lavish. I qualified for the mortgage on our home. He didn't have to work while h…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 02:36 AM
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Im not a man, but I can understand how it would be frustrating. Eventually all of our maps get old and we start shaking our fists at the sky - the only thing that is permanent is change. And technology makes that shit change with a quickness nowadays. As a woman, the old maps do nothing but hold me back and it gets really frustrating that men can't seem to let it go. To resent us for wanting the same things that you do - choices, independence, opportunity, experimentation, etc - feels to me like…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 01:34 AM
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I agree. Gender roles are made up bullshit that do nothing but keep us at each other's throats and warp us into an identity that makes shit harder for us rather than more enjoyable. That's kinda my whole point with this post, to point out the ridiculous shit we expect of others and most especially of ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 01:00 AM
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looks, money, and status But hang with me while I dig a little deeper. (And of course this is very generalized, and it's about what men are "supposed" to be, not what they may truly be.) Men are supposed to be the providers, according to the traditional dogma, and what they are expected to provide must be bought with money. Men have a much stricter "dress code" than women - I can wear jeans and a hoodie, but you can't wear capris and a blouse. You can't wear your nails long, or braid your hair, …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 12:53 AM
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It's not even about whether they're hot or not - too many men simply don't treat or speak to us as though we're sentient beings. They talk over us, talk down to us, tell us what we think and how we feel; they don't listen when we are talking bc they're busy preparing the next part of their lecture. They exhibit absolutely no curiosity about who we are as people - our personalities, goals, preferences, achievements, or anything personal like that - and it's virtually impossible not to offend them…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 12:09 AM
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Because it seems inconsistent with many other feminist claims. Right, I understand that. I just see a lot of guys also claiming that gender roles derive from biology, so getting upset at us for hypergamy would be pointless if we're made this way. but women want to mate upwards in income and status, Again, is this not what traditional gender roles say that women are driven to do, since they're supposed to be inherently nurturing and in need of a man to provide for her and their children?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 11:50 PM
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No, there are already too many people on the planet using too many resources, and their fear-mongering about the birth decline is largely about making sure there are enough consumers and wage slaves to keep their pockets lined. In retrospect, I'm also glad that we didn't have kids because I realized what horrible, ignorant, rapacious, backwards sadists many of my fellow white Americans are. I'm proud to have done my small part in speeding our decline into minority status. We need to sit down, sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 01:50 PM
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I think everyone needs to stop focusing so fucking much on being "hot." It's stupid to think that appearances matter so much - looks always fade as we get older. It's just LIFE. If you spend all your time worried about how to be hot, when being hot is no longer an option then you're gonna be stuck with an immature, undeveloped personality that no women/men your age is going to want to deal with. It's such a shallow, pointless mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 12:24 PM
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Gee, idk - it depends on their PERSONALITY. I see people telling you guys this over and over and over, but you refuse to believe it. Don't know what to tell you. I don't give a fuck how hot a man is, I'm not going to have any interest in an asshole and/or a dullard. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 01:05 AM
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Harems of men? No thank you. But there is speculation that women have the capacity to be multi-orgasmic specifically to encourage them to mate with multiple partners and increase the pool of potential DNA. Female rats work that way. It's not wise to extrapolate too much from animal behavior, but it's interesting for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:55 AM
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I'm sure they had some idea, but it took them awhile to figure out what exact role men played in the whole process. Human females hide their estrus rather than going into heat, which complicated early humans' efforts to make the connection between intercourse and pregnancy. No one knew for sure when women were fertile, so there was no telling which partner was the father for thousands of years. It wasn't until Lowenhoek invented the microscope that they discovered the existence of sperm and prec…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:53 AM
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Not really - we just don't settle. That simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:46 AM
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There is also an evolutionary benefit to paternal nurturance, which is pretty much not heard of in other mammals.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:41 AM
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Leaves out the fact that women were property. Monogamy was only intended to apply to women as a way for men to protect one another's property. This is the origin point of the Patriarchal Double Standard: men can be promiscuous, but it makes women whores. Prostitution most likely became an institution around the same time, once again to ostensibly protect men's property. It's unlikely that all this could have gone on without some degree of cooperation by women. Some speculate that it provided the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:40 AM
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See previous reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 05:55 AM
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I finally learned not to bother debating people who make intellectually dishonest arguments and rely on deliberate ignorance, as you're doing here. You're intentionally misinterpreting what I said and then countering my imaginary position. It is not my job to educate you as we go along. If you truly cared about correcting men's injustices and had experienced significant discrimination bc of your gender, then you would be educating yourself like women do. The only thing you give a shit about is f…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 05:18 AM
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It's bizarre how many men in particular are desperate to keep the concept of male sexuality in order to be a "victim". Agreed -it's so disgusting when they lodge their selfish little complaints about not being able to have as much sex as they think they're owed because of their porn-shriveled brains, and yet they are too cowardly to acknowledge the appalling number of women raped/assaulted every year. They tell on themselves with their hysteria about false accusations and never take into account…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 05:08 AM
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Are these "powerful men" actually beneficial for the average Joe eeking out a living? Hell no. Exactly!! Now you're getting it! This is how patriarchy fucks men over. They're sold a false bill of goods. It's a gigantic bait and switch scheme that ends up hurting the people it claims to support. What kind of damn "patriarchy" would allow their own male soldiers who put their lives on the line for their nation Exactly!! Once again, this is how patriarchy hurts men. You're cannon fodder in wars wag…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 04:15 AM
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You can justify it all you want, but it doesn't change reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 04:09 AM
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Because what we're basically talking about is sex tourism, which exploits vulnerable and impoverished peoples, and it smacks of white supremacy and colonialism.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 03:56 AM
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No matriarchal society would ever let porn exist in the form it does. Men in a matriarchal society wouldn't be jerking off to the physical, verbal, and sexual abuse of women that would often be a crime if done in real life. It's disgusting that you claim men are somehow victims.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 03:30 AM
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I don't think you're operating with an accurate understanding of patriarchy. "Patriarchy implies that men hold power in all the important institutions of society and that women are deprived of access to such power. It does not imply that women are either totally powerless or totally deprived of rights, influence, or resources...some men control property and hold power over other men and over most women; men or male-dominated institutions control the sexuality and reproduction of females; most of…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 03:27 AM
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I've always thought it was pathetic. Definitely not something I envy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 03:17 AM
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Maybe if men would stop being so one dimensional and start focusing on all of the other things that go into being a decent human being they would be happier in general. Sex is great, but it's only one part of being human. Real life isn't like porn. Women have all kinds of other interests, responsibilities, aspirations, etc. We actually don't exist for you or for men in general, we don't have an obligation to please or sleep with you, and we tend to prefer men who can recognize that we really are…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 03:13 AM
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We have to be content with our place in the hierarchy(?), Why? That sounds really depressing and defeatist. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 02:39 AM
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I did answer your question. Sorry that my intellect and knowledge outpaced you. If you want to catch up, I can make some good book recommendations.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 01:57 AM
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Ya, it's called "explaining." It often means that you have to use more words than the original statement contained. Could it possibly be that I'm just more well informed than you, but that you still feel the need to feel like you're "right?" That's usually why men in these subs try shit like distraction, misinterpretation, and deliberate ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 01:40 AM
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in a very civil manner, No, you tried to delegitimize my entire point by implying that any interpretation of "productive" would be inherently biased towards women. a little of venting - a staple of radfem subs Did I not just explain that venting often ALSO contains some analysis and similar forays into deeper content? And again, you're trying to get a little dig in at me with the implication that radfem subs are mostly "venting."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 01:37 AM
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Uh, no. Productive means that it adds something to the discussion (which you failed to do), it's civil in tone, and its intent is to uncover a truth rather than to further obfuscate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 01:25 AM
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I'm not sure how you expect to have a productive discussion about gender without considering history and necessarily relying on specific examples to illustrate broad theories, which is what I've been doing. When I read something that rings true because it accords with my personal experience, I try to then figure out where it fits in this big complicated puzzle of gender theory. Does it exist to specifically benefit men or women? If so, how does it affect the other gender? What purpose did it ori…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 01:21 AM
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Don't stop there, tell me why it's mad. We're having a decent exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 01:02 AM
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Sex drive, appearance, and relationships aren't fundamental? You're missing the forest for the trees - pull the lens back a little bit. My point about evo-psych is that it was developed as an attempt to counter findings that ran counter to typical patriarchal narratives. It's just like how the "g-spot" was "discovered" after feminists in the 70s started raising awareness about the clitoris and the orgasm gap. It's just a reactionary attempt to reestablish men's supposed supremacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 12:56 AM
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Because they haven't remained static over time, but have rather been in constant flux. Our current gender roles have only been in place since the Victorian era. Here are some of the changes that have gradually taken place: Male friends used to be much more physically intimate with one another. If you read novels from the time of the Enlightenment, for example, men are often described as holding one another's hands or walking arm in arm. Boys would sleep in the same beds together, very young boys…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 12:40 AM
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What are symbols of a man's success This is the fundamental problem right here. We've created a bunch of criteria for being a "real"/successful man that is not only impossible for men to achieve, but that actively hinders their lives and happiness. The hallmark example is the expectation that men always be stoic, competent, and independent. These ideas have been around long enough that they're commonly considered natural, but they aren't. They force men to deny significant parts of their humanit…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 12:18 AM
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No, but a world without emotional pair bonding and societal judgment would be disastrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:55 PM
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It makes a lot of sense. One of the innumerable ways patriarchy harms men is by forcing them into constant competition with one another over status, and one of the most reliable symbols of a man's status is his "success" with women. I'm not sure if you're too threatened to read feminist theory or what the issue is, but you should really know the basics if you're going to try to say that it's wrong. I read men's studies/rights stuff quite frequently to better understand how things work as a whole…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:54 PM
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Our world is totally fucked, but I wouldn't want to live in a world like that, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:42 PM
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Ah!! Thank you!! I still disagree with the theory, but this was very helpful. I've been so confused, lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:34 PM
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It’s impressive to other men Totally. I was first surprised and then extremely amused to learn how many traditionally male behaviors involving women are really just performances put on for other men. It was a paradigm changer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:31 PM
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This theory is pretty denigrating to men. It implies that men have no standards, no personal preferences, no morals, and no priorities higher than having sex. If it's supposedly so easy for all women to get laid, then it doesn't speak very well for men, either. That women might theoretically be able to behave this way says nothing about women whatsoever. In theory, every Russian man could be sent into outer space, but that doesn't make all Russian men cosmonauts, and it doesn't mean that they al…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:28 PM
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At the end of the day, having a "ho phase" comes from the idea that women have low to non-existent sex drives, and that women who deviate from this idea by enjoying sex are "whores." Therefore when women openly express their sexuality, engage in promiscuity, or are doing what gets called "sowing their wild oats" when men do it, it becomes a "ho phase." Even when women use the term themselves, this is it's ultimate origin.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:17 PM
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What billionaires do with their love lives says very little about how the average people in society operate. This is kind of absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:13 PM
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He values me as an equal human and an equal partner. He has his own interests, goals, hobbies, hopes, etc. He handles normal, day-to-day adult responsibilities (having a job, paying rent, cleaning house, etc) That's all there is to it for me. The rest would be my personal preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:12 PM
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One who recognizes and values me as an equal human being and an equal partner. That's literally all.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:10 PM
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I'm curious as to why these ideas about hypergamy have become so prevalent with some men, considering that women currently have more economic independence and power than they ever have in history. I struggle to make sense of that, do you have any insight?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:00 PM
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This is too big and complex to reach one single conclusion; it's a combination of both, I think. For one thing, I think "failing as men" is a little harsh, since it leaves out all of the societal, cultural, and historical forces that have had a much greater influence in where men are today than any individual man's behavior. I personally think it's more like "society failed men" than men having failed. Society has been failing men for a long, long time; it's only recently gotten so severe that m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 10:54 PM
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RadFem here and I agree. Most of what is often called complaining or venting in women's subs also involves a lot of analysis of the societal forces, institutions, practices etc that brought that behavior about, as well as analysis about the typical behavior of the generalized male population. That process has been crucial to women's progress, and I think it's totally healthy for men to do the same thing - with ONE caveat: that it be productive. I'd actually love to see men doing more of it, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 10:34 PM
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This is a great point and broadened my perspective. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 10:29 PM
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I'd tell him to be himself, his y-chromosomes made him man enough the moment he was conceived.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 10:27 PM
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I'm 100% convinced that we have roughly the same libidos that only vary at the individual level. The more I watch and listen, the more I am convinced that men's sex drive has been enormously exaggerated and that a lot of it is a performance (mostly done for other men, but that's a different rabbit hole.) So many of my female friends want sex either as much as their male partners or more, and I've also always had what I thought was a "high" drive for a woman. The myth of the male sex drive is jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 10:05 PM
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Personally, I don't place much stock on looks in the first place. We are way too shallow as a society, and (I'm not proud of this because it is a prejudice/bias, really) I actually tend to avoid men that are conventionally attractive and/or very muscular because I assume they're empty narcissists. In my defense, I developed this bias based on extensive personal experience. Men have to have substance!! Looks change and fade, it's a stupid fucking thing to judge a potential partner on. Even a diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 09:48 PM
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You said that feminism was the new world order and seem to have quite a bit of anger at women. What do you think that women can do to change the way things are? This isn't a gotcha question, I'm sincerely interested. I've noticed that a lot of posts/comments in here do a great job at expressing the writer's thoughts and opinions, but I wish that there were more ideas about solutions thrown out there.
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