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The win win here is date the 30 year old. She's not 20, which is nice because 20 year olds tend to be idiots, and now you're also being financially fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 10:46 AM
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For sure, I've come to terms with it. I'm just saying that laying the blame at men for not attracting women seems a bit simplistic, at best. The men I know in life are the hardest working, kindest, most empathetic, and like strong people. I would actually venture that most men really are. They put up with 12 hour work days, they put up with loneliness, insane work conditions, they go to the gym 5 days a week, groom themselves well. I really don't think effort is the issue. I'm not saying it's wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:58 PM
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Well said
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 02:23 PM
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Because you can't self improve your way into the standards. You can't regrow hair, you can't fix your height, most people can't afford to fix their teeth. You can be the most charming motherfucker on the planet, great job, great style, none of that means diddly squat if you don't have hair, and you're under 6 ft. I've thought a lot about this, and it seems so ubiquitous that women need tall men. Did you know the average male height is 5' 9"? That means half of the male population is under 5'9". …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 10:53 AM
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I'm 32 years old. When I met me gf 2 years ago and up until recently I've been the soft guy, overly kind, too empathetic. Then I learned that at the start of our relationship, before "becoming official", my gf was dating and fucking 5 other guys at the same time as me. I'm fucking done being the nice guy, yall get asshole now. Nothing means anything, and I'm just looking out for myself, because that's all we've got.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 10:41 AM
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I haven't no, tried to once and I still got somewhat attached. Our bodies should be firing off all kinds of chemicals, not the absence of them. And yes i agree, we'll see what happens It's also just like, well women all the time are like 'oh guys just want sex', but then they do the same thing, everyone's just using everyone to get themselves off. Human masturbation tools. Like really?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 12:11 PM
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She also picked all them, hence the opposite of special. And not because they were good or anything. Just because they were convenient. That's the value of sex? That's not special I'm a little grossed out because I am picturing a bunch of unprotected sex. She's not tainted, it was just irresponsible to expose me to at least one of them. It's not gross,it's sad, and angry. I did tell her. She's upset I'm trying to break myself to view sex as meaningless, because it is
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:00 AM
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Recently I found out my gf has fucked half of our friend group. I don't know how else to put it, but it makes me uncomfortable. I think partly because I feel like the butt end of a joke being the last to know. Partly because I now know that half the guys I hang out with have had their dick sucked by her. What it really comes down to for me is devaluation of intimacy. I think people, none of this men vs women shit, want to feel special in intimacy. It's like right there in the word almost. So whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 03:18 PM
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I'd say about 50%+ of my matches when I was on the apps a couple years ago would ask about height in some way or another. I would venture that lots of guys, myself included, don't really have the luxury of not swiping. The match rate is low enough as it is
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:03 PM
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Yes very true
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:01 PM
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For sure. I'm actually a personal trainer so I know a fair bit about all this stuff. I see what you're saying about body shape and all, that wasn't reallt my point, but I'm glad you made it because it is important. You are correct, body type isn't something you can control, anymore than anything else. However, it's not so cut and dry from more concrete things like eye color or height. Those are black and white. You are 6 feet tall, or not. Nothing, zero things you do aside from slouching, will h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:41 PM
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400% agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:31 PM
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Yup, probably happens often. But also if someone says 190-200 pounds, and you can guess they aren't 6 ft 2, then you have a better understanding
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 02:01 PM
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Exactly. I'm not saying don't have preferences, but keep them to yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:49 PM
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In what possible situation does it make any rational sense to ask someone their height? Do you need to reach a high shelf perhaps? (Someone posts only face shots and you can't tell weight, maybe you're someone who eats healthy and goes to the gym 5 days a week, in this case it makes sense to clarify some degree of values)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:48 PM
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The people I know who treat sex the most like a casual meaningless, emotionless thing... are women, by a huge margin
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:42 PM
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Definitely. Agreed. People can have criteria, but I personally think if one group can have one distinct one, and the other can't because it makes them soulless demons for even thinking about it... that's like a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:37 PM
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Idunno, I think it's kind of a fucking sign of the most shallow a human can be that height is the new measurement by which men are judged Imagine a guy saying, sorry unless your body fat percentage is under 30, then I'm not attracted to you. Feel that annoying condescending tone in that statement, and realize that that is actually less morally corrupt than height, because you can actually do something about your weight. Maybe this guy lied because he's trying to weed out the shallow people. Like…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 12:58 PM
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Er sorry I misread.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 07:02 PM
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So if my gf sleeps with someone else, because it isn't between my girlfriend and I, it's between her and someone else... it's not cheating? It's not a boundary?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:52 PM
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So wouldn't cheating also not be a boundary? It has nothing to do with me
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 06:12 PM
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I do hate when someone takes an argument or point to an extreme in order to suggest the whole thing is flawed, which im trying not to do. but... there has to be some line, right? Like if I go out wearing a see through speedo to a beach that isn't a nude beach or something. I'd assume my partner would have a problem with that. Likewise I love seeing my partner in sexy clothing, but if it's something that's deliberately actually revealing, or like super playing with fire, I'd probably have some is…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:34 PM
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Have to agree with you there. Going out dancing with other dudes wearing tiny see through bikinis, thats not something that's done to me. But it is a boundary I would have. Or straight up cheating. It's not done to me. I'm not there for it. But I have a huge fucking problem with it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 05:23 PM
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I've considered it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 10:54 AM
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Anything at least makes you feel desired, feel human. The amount of times i see this question or debate. Man unless you are a dude or a very unnatractive woman, you have no idea what the isolation feels like, how your entire existence means fucking nothing, just one big joke. To want something so much, and to have a whole half of the population literally not see you. I've gone to the gym my entire adult life, like 15 years... I have never once been looked at. Not one fucking time. *also like sif…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 11:34 AM
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A relationship with someone I find attractive, someone i respect, and someone I enjoy spending time with, who I can feel good about dedicating my energy towards and who I won't have to look over my shoulder and wonder who else they are screwing. Someone who wants all that with me too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 08:17 PM
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Thr amount of shit I've seen most men (heavily including myself) put up with unacceptable shit because it's better than being alone is tremendous. I don't mean being afraid of being single. I mean you know damn well the options out there are so slim that you might go years and years and years without a relationship again
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 01:08 PM
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I would have loved this privilege. I went years and years in my 20s without sex at all. And I'm in good shape, tall, easy going, kind, all that good stuff. Just the way it went
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 04:45 PM
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Glad that's the point you got from that. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:59 AM
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It's almost like it's one of the biggest drivers of being a human male. And has been for hundreds of thousands of years. A life without a partner and intimacy is half a life, that other stuff is great. But it pales in comparison to companionship, deep intimacy, being desired and made to feel special. Edit* And I think it's a shame that our attitude now is to tell lonely men (there's a lot, like a majority) to suck it up and stop trying, to go find other things to do because they are wasting thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:36 AM
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Being invisible is really very awful in ways that's hard describe man. It's fucking awful. Like your whole existence is some morbid joke. 'Yes here you're built to be attracted to women, but they wont find you attractive... not only that they'll be disgusted by you if they do see you, and mostly they will do everything in their power to ignore you.' I do like that dating app Stat on most women finding 80% of men like not just not attractive, but straight up ugly. You really think 80% of guys are…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:37 AM
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Most people won't, some thing i had read recently showed that something like 98% of people over age 25 don't change in any serious way, I forget what the measurement was. Which makes sense because we sort of stop physically growing around then. But even before that it's not like people are that maluable even at age 20, a lot of experience and trauma has already set in, ideas. It's possible to change then but very unlikely. So if you sleep with 100 people at age 20, there's a really good chance y…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 05:19 PM
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Didn't like those stats eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:32 PM
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https://www.healthline.com/health-news/young-adults-especially-men-having-sex-less-frequently Most men aren't even in the market right now ^ https://discreetinvestigations.ca/infidelity-statistics-who-cheats-more-men-or-women/#:~:text=However%2C%20the%20gender%20gap%20varies,the%20age%20group%20are%20guilty. "However, the gender gap varies per age. From the same survey, data from married adults ages 18 to 29 says that more women are guilty of infidelity, with 11% of the women from the surveyed g…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:19 PM
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I did, because you are looking for a fight, and changing someone's mind who isn't looking to think differently is a waste of my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:09 PM
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Wired articles aren't evidence either ;) but best of luck
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 12:05 PM
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You haven't proven the 'rule'. I don't doubt that a small top percent of men want to fuck around as much as possible, just for shits lets say 5-10%. Most guys have way too many feelings for that shit. From everything I've heard recently, anecdotally, women dating nowadays are all multiple dating, sleeping around. They are much more accepting of a poly situation, without actually calling it that. It's not 'cheating' because they skirt around that by not committing, but isn't sleeping with 5 guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 11:54 AM
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When I met my gf I stopped talking to the other 3 women i was talking to, and entirely dated her. I learned later that she spent the next 2 months dating 5 other guys of varying commitment levels. Tell me more about how guys are the polygamous ones. Every guy friend I know said they couldn't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 11:42 AM
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If you think those women were being honest, I have some essential oils to sell you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 03:29 AM
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You're lock analogy isn't incorrect, I like that. When a woman wants to eat, she goes to the grocery store, and miraculously everything on the shelves is free. She can take whatever she wants, and its always stocked. When a guy wants to eat, there is no grocery store. He has to go fend for himself out in the wild. He has to compete for a resource that's over-hunted by a million other men. There are 3 men to every 1 woman on tinder. That means baseline that 66% of men won't find a match out of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 07:30 PM
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Gotcha. Surely you can ask the dude to use lube or don't do it at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 11:10 AM
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I hear this all the time, but what even makes "bad sex". Sex is such a straight forward event, it's built into us. It's like being bad at chewing food. I get that it's maybe more about the circumstance around sex that turns women on rather than just dick goes in and out. But surely if you've gotten to that point something must have been going right with the guy. Do you just stop being turned on as soon as the clothes come off? My partner has had way more partners than I have, I only had one hook…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 10:11 AM
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If you want a relationship, stop treating dating like the bachelor or sex in the city. Going on dates with 5 guys in a week and sleeping with them all is confusing and hurts the one guy who is serious in front of you. Coming from the good man as my partner calls me. I showed up. I gave 100% of my attention, I gave it a real shot. I didn't realize she was seeing 4 other dudes, and i love her to bits now, but that shit still fucking hurts to think about. Don't treat people like options. Give them …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 09:44 AM
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Perhaps a bit. It's more so that it removes the magic. So like 2 months in, I'm seeing this chick who's now my gf. We were having sex, we were cuddling 3-4 times a week, we were talking about how awesome we both are and how much of a spark. As my therapist put it "there's an unspoken thing at some point in seeing someone". To learn recently that for 2 months while that was all going on she was out going on other dates... it's just like man I feel like a fucking fool. Because I was. I wasn't good…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 09:11 PM
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Check out the book sapiens, has a great chapter on it. Sort of seems like there were pockets of communities that would engage in poly, but for the majority, it was actually monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 11:12 AM
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Because that's what lots of people are doing. There's no reason for them not to, if there's no rules,
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 12:38 AM
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What an awful universe we live in
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 12:38 AM
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Right??
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 10:46 PM
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No. But very mature. They couldn't multi date
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 09:06 PM
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I feel this entirely
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 09:05 PM
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Isn't that the respectable thing to do? If after date 1 or 3 you go look this isn't working? Instead of dancing around it or ghosting. Or better yetting asking to just be friends lol. It doesn't have to be an official title of bf gf, I'm not saying that, that's commitment. Don't commit, but the opposite of that isn't sleeping around, it can just be 'trying it out'
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 09:04 PM
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I've actually asked every single one of my my male friends and not a single one has said they could do it. Just anecdotal evidence. I think media is portraying guys as doing this, but from what I've found guys reallt have a hard time with it. We have more heart than people think
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 09:02 PM
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It's an interesting read, thanks for sharing. I guess my immediate picture is of musical chairs. You two match up and go " ooo maybe?? " nah the music's still playing, and a few chairs dissappear, and its like maybe?? Still not sure... all other chairs dissappear. And you're like we'll I guess we should date. How romantic is that. My partner was dating 4 other guys for the first 2 months we were 'dating' but not technically dating. According to her. She told me on date 3 about others. I said fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 09:00 PM
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Yes exactly. Look people can do whatever they want. I'm sure there's lots of people that love dating around like this. I'm not trying to say what people can and can't do. But be upfront so the people looking for love in a different way don't waste their time
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 08:55 PM
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I'm happy with this actually, I agree with this, as a compromise
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 08:53 PM
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It feels a bit like the argument of guns. So I show up to tale to meet people, and one person brings a gun. So no one's feels safe, so they start bringing guns. Now you're the oddman out if you don't bring a gun. It's like we'll maybe let's simmer down and reduce the amount of weapons showing up. If everyone's multi dating, it means in order to not be hurt, you need to too. Well.. idunno, I'm just trying to suggest that maybe if we tried to be a little more romantic, a little more show up with y…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 08:53 PM
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Yes exactly. My issue is more so that the assumption is anything goes until that deliverate conversation happens of exclusivity. That's now the rule, you can fuck whoever until that conversation. My point is, I think there's an unspoken romantic thing we all understand, and people ignore. If a month in and 4 or 5 dates, you are looking at each other with that look, you can't stay away, you're talking every day, cuddling, having passionate sex... it's a relationship my dudes, and then to go out t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 08:50 PM
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Exactly this
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 08:47 PM
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Yup, lots of people are more accepting of poly attitudes, while not neccessarily being poly, I just mean more okay with someone they are dating/screwing to also be dating/screwing others. I generally treat sex with a bit more magic to it, which I get is kind of old fashioned, but I get others don't need to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 08:45 PM
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Mhmm definitely, I get the short term benefit of using your time more effectively. But it isn't shopping for a new car. Why are we in sush a rush to end up in what is becoming more and more often situationships. Perhaps it's long term more effective to take our time with some of the biggest decisions of our lives
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 08:44 PM
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For sure, and i get that everyone's different, it's a spectrum, some people need that variety. All the power to then, go have lots of fun. But there's tons of people who just want to find love, and that isn't the way, in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 07:21 PM
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Bingo
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 07:20 PM
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The friends point is tough, because that translates to the assumption that most people are fine with polyamory or similar. Most people, I think, want one person they can stick with as a romantic partner. If you're into poly then sure go ham. The underlying tone of friendships however isn't monogamous, it is different, we understand that the majority are going to have more friends
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 07:19 PM
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Couldnt agree more. The amount of times I've heard of people going on dates with people they don't like. It's like why? Are we really that starved of attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 07:16 PM
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You aren't certain either way. that's dating man. Serial dating or multi dating has the same position there, neither will garauntee a relationship. Serial dating just means you're giving it a real chance, whereas multi is halfassed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 07:15 PM
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Hence the first sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 07:12 PM
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And you can build meaningful connections while they or you are out dating/being intimate with others?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 07:02 PM
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