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| 2 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD? | Question For Women | AllUsermamesAreTaken | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 07:01 AM |
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| 1 | Study: Women, without exceptions, found muscular, "ripped" men most attractive; although in social contexts they lie to avoid hurting men around them.Studies aren't just done to oppose a claim. Studies are done to confirm claims, to verify previous results, for explorative and/or investigative reasons, for publicity and to reject claims. Of course men who are in better shape and have muscles are going to be more attractive, The point of studies is also to back up "of course"s with hard data. There's no "obvious" in that sense. Just like a woman in great shape is more attractive than one that isn't. Ah. But is it? And what is great shape? Are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/19 09:31 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?Whatever ppl in this sub say or r/incels or r/FemaleDatingStrategy etc. is usually not the norm at all. The logic is usually "studies show people prefer tomatoes over potatoes" -> "omg those potatoes are fucked". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/19 02:57 PM |
| 0 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?Better treatment and more compliments do play a role in this but IMO the bigger role is whether you're the kind of personality who is dependent on this. You could be happy with the current amount of attention which in case of you being normal weight would be more than enough to find a suitable mate - so why the motiviation for more? Perfectionism maybe, maybe a bit of histrionic/narcissistic. This part of why I also consider an inability to be happy with "good enough" in this. You get attention … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/19 03:00 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?MI don't just have a single unique cause. Otherwise MDD would be caused by just one thing for all MDD cases. The issue is laymen see MI as diseases which they are NOT. This is the single biggest misconception about mental health. MIs are syndromes - not diseases. There are underlying pathologies that manifest as a given syndrome. Saying someone has MDD should be seen as saying someone has a headache. Headache isn't a disease - it is a manifestation of something. Since they are syndromes people w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/19 10:36 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?Which degree? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/19 05:13 AM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?Cake face is the term for it used in the make-up industry. How would you prefer to call it then? I compared them to nazis? How and where? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/19 05:12 AM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?I'll still say "men value looks above anything" is incel rhetoric. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/19 05:08 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?Because it sometimes is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/19 05:07 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?I have had an ED and I counted the kcal to deflect from problems I had no control over. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 07:42 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?So to be clear: I perfectly accept that incentives and compliments can be the culprit but that ain't pressure and it ain't necessary. That's my angle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?If you as a man want to hate on women wearing too much makeup, maybe you should consider the many reasons why many women feel inadequate without it. How's stating preferences hate? I don't go around claiming women who have height preferences hate men. What exactly is your issue? And I'm considering the reasons and I've decided that I wouldn't want to date a woman who has issues with her looks in the same way most women wouldn't want to date men with similar issues. Doesn't mean I hate them but I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 04:19 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?Maybe, but I wouldn't ignore the impact a negative dating outlook can have. But until more research is in this is a matter of opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 04:07 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?That is correct. The BMI <17.5 criteria was revised to allow more subjective judgement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 04:04 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?Yup. Agreed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 04:00 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?you agree that men abusing steroids is sometimes driven by what men believe women want, no? Yes. But it's not always realistic. including BUT NOT EXCLUSIVE TO male attention, can contribute to women thinking they need to be thinner/prettier, and that can sometimes be reinforced until the woman reaches an extreme. Yes. That's what I've mentioned in the root post? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 03:59 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?Steroid abuse isn't necessarily BDD. If women want men to have green hair then wanting to have green hair isn't BDD. Pressure to look a certain way and to engage in behaviours to improve looks is not BDD. I suspect this is why you thought I'd blame women for male BDD? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 02:40 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?So you agree that male BDD is driven in part by women’s stated desires and behaviors, No, not at all. I don't remember even hinting at that. Can you cite why you think I'd agree with this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 02:36 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?when women are harmed, it’s women’s own fault, and when men are harmed, it’s also women’s fault No, that's silly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 02:34 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?Anorexia has subtypes purging and restrictive. There's binge eating and there's also atypical anorexia. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 02:31 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?Anorexia has subtypes purging and restrictive. There's binge eating and there's also atypical anorexia. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 02:30 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?Anorexic and Anorexia are not the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 02:28 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?I wouldn't necessarily buy that all the women with BDD are objectively gorgeous just because someone on Reddit said so. Yes, not necessarily. You can have actual flaws in addition to an imagine flaw for example. All female patients I had contact with were just your average woman (and thus gorgeous). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 02:28 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?Sufferers of BDD obsess over a perceived flaw (BY THE SUFFERER) that does not actually exist (or it's relevance is exaggerated). I see no logical flaw there. That's the way BDD is defined. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 01:44 PM |
| 0 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?And where do you think mental disorders come from? The idea of them being endogenous brain diseases was a lie sold by narcissistic psychiatrists in the past but it's not how modern psychiatry views it (with the exception of some dumbass psychiatrists). You might want to read https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biopsychosocial_model | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 01:37 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?I don't mean to be rude to you but if you want to engage in this discussion at least read the first few paragraphs on Wikipedia. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 01:33 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?Doesn't matter. In the end it's the judgement of the diagnosing physician whether the flaw is exaggerated or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 01:32 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?You're confusing BDD with BID. Come back once you've studies clinical psychology. Kthxbye. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 01:29 PM |
| 2 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?The issue is similar to what tends to be said about incels. I.e. "they want a stacy not a becky". If you're only going to be happy with a stacy you'll conclude that looks are key and there's lots of focus on looking good -> blackpill/bigorexia/bdd. However, the same is true for women. If you're only after chad you'll conclude looks are key and you'll focus a lot on it -> blackpill/anorexia/bdd. However, as said the idea of 80% of women just wanting chads is ridiculous (and not realistic anyway). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 12:29 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?I agree with all of that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 12:22 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?I like the slight insult in this? Maybe, not sure if that was directed towards me? If yes then I'm going to take a rain check because presumably this won't even remotely be a factually based discussion then. Otherwise yes, telling them they're attractive won't change things. That's a hallmark of BDD. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 12:21 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?Bit of an oversimplification and overgeneralization? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 12:01 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?The individual must be preoccupied with one or more nonexistent or slight defects or flaws in their physical appearance. This is a must for BDD. The flaw must be nonexistent or slight. If there were an actual flaw you wouldn't fulfill this criterion and thus you wouldn't have BDD. I don't see what's so confusing about it? The definition is pretty clear? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 10:49 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?Did you read the DSM criteria for BDD? Or research criteria? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 10:47 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?Having fancy finger nails makes women feel girly even though men hardly give a crap. Why wouldn't beards sometimes work like that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 10:45 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?Why not? Don't you want to fit in? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 10:43 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?Why not? We have some idea of masculinity and thus some men wear beards. Others do it to look good for women. Depends on the person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 10:39 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?I don't see anything wrong with those womem you posted so they'd certainly be considered beautiful. Again, I did not say you have to be "most beautiful" to have BDD. What I said was you have to be beautiful to have it. In gay communities the standard of beauty might be defined by their peers. If your looks are severly hindering your success with potential mates then you don't have an exaggerated nor imaginary flaw but a REAL flaw as witnessed by peers. If you have a REAL flaw then you don't have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 10:37 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?There are self-imposed standards yes. For example most commonly finger nails in women or beards in men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 10:23 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?IMO this is a result of desiring a very hot successful man above everything else. If you compete with 1000 other women for a single guy obviously this will result in competitive pressure but the vast majority of men aren't involved in this. Theoretically there are more than enough men available but the question is how many of them women actually consider potential mates. If they consider very few men as potential mates then there's competitive pressure but again.. it would be inaccurate to attri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 10:18 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?It doesn't say that nor did I say that. This sounds like a misunderstanding between us. I just don't understand why you have this caveat, it's really bizarre. The point was to demonstrate that it isn't due to pressure from men to look good because the "most beautiful women" certainly look more than good enough and there's no pressure on them from men to look good because they already look good. I just formulated the question this way to put emphasis on this. Of course you don't have to be a top … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 10:10 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?Well.. sortof. My point is that these disorders don't causative arise from pressure from men. If you have BDD then there's no objective problem in terms of mate finding capabilities in terms of looks. If you have BDD you look fine. Otherwise you wouldn't qualify for BDD. Since you look fine men will be attracted to you thus pressure from men can't possibly have a significant role in this. Media blaming men for this is highly misleading. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 09:56 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?If your appearence allows you to attract a decent amount of potential mates then by any reasonable definition you are beautiful and there's no clinically relevant problem in reproduction and capability to obtain love - assuming you're otherwise mentally healthy. If a person despite this believes there is a problem then you have a discrepancy between reality and how the person interprets reality and this is what the mental illness is about. If you weren't able to attract mates and think there's a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 09:48 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?then BDD means a person exaggerates the importance of the flaw. Yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 09:41 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?As far as ICD-10 is concerned it counts as hypochondriacal but yes, it has strong ties to OCD/Anxiety. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 09:41 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?Not in a clinical sense, no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 09:38 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?(Could lose a pound doesn't necessarily count as a flaw. Maybe this is the misunderstanding here. I'm using flawless in the sense of what an average (not arithmetic average) healthy human looks like. The average healthy woman is certainly beautiful.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 09:36 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?Uhm.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 09:31 AM |
| 0 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?Do you know how BDD works? Yes. It is a major discrepancy between how a sufferer perceives themselves vs. how other perceive themselves plus obsessive behaviours and rumination and the suffering must cause clinically significant impact on social and occupational functioning. Specifically there needs to be an imagined flaw that doesn't exist or is blown out of proportion. This means to qualify for BDD you have to look (almost) flawless as otherwise the flaw wouldn't be imaginary. https://bdd.iocd… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 09:31 AM |
| 0 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?MI aren't diseases. That's why they APA calls them disorders. And it's foolish to assume MI don't arise from societal and economic problems. The environment plays a role in this. And BDD is about how others perceive you. If you get dates then it's unlikely that you're ugly but if you still feel ugly then you might have BDD. BDD by definition implies that you think your appearance is flawed even though the environment tells you otherwise. but I don't think it's based on how many dates you get- It… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 09:24 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?That's the way BDD is defined. It has to be contrary to other people's opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 09:17 AM |
| 0 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?If you're not beautiful then the flaw isn't non-existent thus BDD wouldn't be a correct diagnosis. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 08:08 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?Personally, I never felt pressured by men, it was the pressure (which I made myself) to be as beautiful as other women. This is what I'd consider the root cause. I hope you're well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 07:50 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?By definition of BDD you have to be beautiful. Otherwise you don't have BDD the same way you can't be anorexic if you're at a normal weight. What do you mean by "sort of ignored"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 07:47 AM |
| -1 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?That is of course true. Being better looking results in better treatment but how do you explain the huge difference in rates between women and men. As a man, even being a bit more beautiful will also result in better treatment. Being beautiful also influences your survival chance in a medical emergency. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 07:36 AM |
| 2 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?It'd be foolish to ignore environmental factors. MI aren't simply endogenous brain diseases. That's too simplistic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 07:32 AM |
| 2 | Why do you think even the most beautiful of women get EDs and BDD?Ah. Sorry. I forgot to mention those. ED = eating disorder. BDD = body dysmorphic disorder. ED is a category of mental health disorders such as anorexia and bulimia but also binge eating and orthorexia. BDD is a disorder where sufferers are convinced they have an inexistent (as judged by others) flaw in appearance. If the imagined flaw is weight then it isn't BDD but a more specific disorder. Anorexia is sort of like a special version of BDD (sufferers think they are fat when they aren't). In me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 07:08 AM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?And many dump money and attention and likes on instagram models they have no shot with- "Many"? You think many men are doing this? That's probably less than 0.1% that is doing that. It is self-inflicted exactly the way any body-dismorphia is- And your evidence for this is? Most women with BDD look completely fine and almost any man or woman will tell them they look fine. Those cases of BDD are not the fault of men. If 90% of men would consider you beautiful yet you don't consider yourself beauti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 06:38 AM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?That was more a general statement than specifically about you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 06:12 AM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?SO, this is the reason why some women work exceptionally hard to be prettier. Men desire beauty and reward it very strongly-- how are you not getting it that this male attention is a motivation for being highly focused on beatuy? Because this is bullshit. Every man would do better if prettier, yet evidently EDs are currently predominantly affecting womem. Just because you do better if prettier does not imply that you have to go through all this. If my dick were 3cm longer I'd do better. Every ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 06:11 AM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?I'm not calling them anything. Women with 100s of bikini shots on IG don't have EDs nor BDD nor are they doing it to please men. Or they might... but it's got nothing to do with this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/19 05:55 AM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?Oh and yes. I'm very passionate about eradicating eating disorders and body dysmorphia that's why I have such an aggressive tone. These disorders are lethal. In a sense spreading misinformation about men is killing women. And that's not good imo. Nobody should die due to such bullshit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/19 09:55 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?I’m not teaching women that their beauty is all that matters? So far you've stated numerous times that men value mostly looks a lot and beauty is all that matters to men. So yes.. you're teaching women this by spreading this false information. And this is the reason I insult you because this way you're not helping those women but you're part of the fucking problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/19 09:47 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?Everybody would do better if prettier. Everybody would do better if smarter. Everybody would do better with X. So? Men constantly pursue pretty women— women who aren’t beautiful have to put in a lot more work. Well... yeah. If I were a rich, attractive celebrity women would throw themselves at me. So? Does this mean men are under so much pressure to look good? If women received no incentives to present themselves as more beautiful, women would not post instagram selfies or wear makeup and you co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/19 09:33 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?I don't. But I can understand that you as a woman have a different view on it. Also part of the human condition. Women for example often state that wearing suits is personality and not looks whereas for men that would be looks. For me having 100s of bikini shots is the PERSONALITY equivalent of a guy posting pics of his junk. Yes, one's currently more socially acceptable but to me both of those reflect the same (negative) personality trait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/19 09:23 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?If being valued for how you look is part of the human condition, then why are you insulting me personally for agreeing with you that female beauty matters?? I'm disagreeing to the degree to which it matters. Black and white arguments are silly. "Would you date a 10cm tall guy? No? OMG looks". Yes, humans value look to some degree. What I'm saying is men do not value looks to the degree women usually claim. That lacks any real life evidence. then why did you yourself stress that men could still f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/19 09:19 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?Also you're not the only reader of comments @advice | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/19 07:32 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?It’s good to see you agree that it’s not safe or healthy to pressure girls into believing their looks are the most important thing. I do agree with that but I don't see men being responsible for this. Men, are pretty much happy with any regular non-obese woman. The issue is however that the opposite doesn't seem true. Women evidently only favour ~28% of non-obese men in which case you have a 3:1 ratio and obviously THIS creates pressure. The pressure doesn't come from men - it comes from inside … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/19 04:41 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?Maybe plain women are ignored because they were never told how to interact with men? Or maybe because they were told that they are automatically entitled to men's attention? Any regular non-obese women will do fine if she knows how to interact with men. And yes, this might mean that you have to make a step forward. This is how you picked the game. You say "men have to initiate" which leads to certain effects yes. If you're forced to decide between 3 women you don't know which you're going to app… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/19 04:36 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?Ok. So.. if a guy has a profile full of dick pics. It would be unreasonable to say "uhm.. I guess his personality isn't what I'm looking for". After all.. dick pics are still just looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/19 04:27 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?If you teach girls growing up that the only thing about her that makes her have any human worth is her looks, what else do you expect than for her to focus all her attention on her looks? Yes, that's exactly why women like you should stop spreading this bullshit. You're hurting those women in the long run if they're vulnerable. And I'm refering to this bullshit: I’m saying that men’s obsession with female beauty above all other things Attention, success, love. Men value pretty women and treat th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/19 04:25 PM |
| 1 | [Q4A] If a Dude Likes Chick Flicks is That a Good Thing or a Bad Thing?Jersey Shore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/19 11:02 AM |
| 2 | CMV: The best thing we can do for our boys is to tell them to man up and stop cryingAnd how do you protect against rape? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/19 10:53 AM |
| 2 | CMV: The best thing we can do for our boys is to tell them to man up and stop cryingYes, some WOmen will laugh at others for crying but those assholes won't be ridiculed more and more. Fixed it. Men laughing at men for crying is basically a non-existent problem past the age of 18. Teenage boys, yes, they do but adult men don't give a fuck anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/19 10:52 AM |
| 3 | CMV: The best thing we can do for our boys is to tell them to man up and stop cryingNobody wants to date someone who constantly cries in public. You think men date women who cry all the time? Fuck no. This comparison is silly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/19 10:47 AM |
| 4 | CMV: The best thing we can do for our boys is to tell them to man up and stop cryingWomen are more caring, that's true. But you're also immediately sexually dead to them - which is fine for female friends but if you're after a relationship then obviously this is a no-go. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/19 10:43 AM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?Additionally (sorry for spamming you btw but I'm a multi-answer type of redditor). Women saying "moo... so much pressure to use make-up and have 200$ haircut and they only want sex etc." are like men saying "moo... so much pressure to have 18cm dick, six pack and 200k$ car". Every healthy man and woman knows both of those are bullshit. And men/women know this. If you're a woman only playing your looks then this means one of these things: you actually believe this bullshit which men will interpre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/19 07:51 AM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?Also... even IF you get rewarded for looks does in no way imply you have to. You'll also get rewarded for filming yourself eating disgusting things or doing crazy stuff (see jackass movies) but that doesn't mean you have to. The decision is on you unless there is actual pressure to look good. Which exists, absolutely. There is pressure on men and women to look good but the pressure to look good on women is realistically just to be on a healthy diet which is pretty doable and your doctor would re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/19 07:10 AM |
| 1 | What do you consider a female equivalent to beta buxx?Ok. Imagine this. Your current wife figured out you'd give your ex-wife a massage every sunday when you were still together. You're never doing that for the current wife. Would you consider it plausible that she'd be asking herself why she's not getting the same treatment? (Of course there could be many reasons for it.) (And yes, the point is to argue it's not about the sex act per se but about the difference). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/19 05:57 AM |
| 7 | People reccomend a women should get married during her peak years in order to secure the best guy and therefore have more happiness, however I dont believe this will end in her being happy.Since guys will always be most attracted to women I'm there youth theres a high chance theyd cheat on there older wife if they got the chance. Under that premise no woman over 35 could ever be happy. You might want to reconsider that premise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/19 05:51 AM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?Oh and BTW Is she on instagram constantly posting pictures of herself or of everything she does? Behaviour, not looks. Do you like men sending dick pics? Sending dick pics is a behaviour. It's about the behaviour... not looks. Does she have a Tinder account linked to an IG account with 150 bikini shots? Same. Behaviour. Does she wear make-up like crazy? This would be looks I guess. Is she gossiping, texting or snapchatting like crazy? Behaviour. Is she treating female friends badly? Behaviour. S… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/19 05:46 AM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?men are the ones completely absorbed in women’s looks And what evidence do you have for that claim? women with “cake face” are the ones who understand that men treat beautiful girls way better than they treat “modest” girls. If you think men desire girls with cake face more then your grip on reality is fucked up. What are you? Femcel? You barely mention any positive traits to look for in a woman other than that she be attractive, not wear too much makeup, and not be vain about her looks— all of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/19 05:32 AM |
| 1 | To what extent do you care about a woman's income? (additional Qs too)If it's economically feasible then it's good enough. If you together can afford basic living standard then money shouldn't matter. And basic means no 200 bucks handbags, no iphone, .. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/19 09:58 PM |
| 2 | Let's talk about Instagram! Fill in the blanks.The best thing on instagram is dicks . The worst thing on instagram is dicks. I am on instagram mostly for the butts. Or am I not on instagram at all? I post/do not post to instagram because no nuts . I rate instagram 0 out of 10 as social media sites go. The effect instagram has on the world is funky. Instagram is a good way to market nothing to me. A person with an active instagram account they post to regularly is more likely to be a shitty person than a normal person. The people who own and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/19 09:53 PM |
| 5 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?Yeh. It's rather simple actually. Is she on instagram constantly posting pictures of herself or of everything she does? Stay away from her. Does she have a Tinder account linked to an IG account with 150 bikini shots? Stay away from her. Does she wear make-up like crazy? Stay away from her. Is she gossiping, texting or snapchatting like crazy? Stay away from her. Is she treating female friends badly? Stay away from her. You'll start to recognize a theme: self-absorbed in looks. Essentially stay … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/19 09:47 PM |
| 5 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?Cheating rates are ~25% for all genders. The chances that you'll cheat are decently high and so is getting cheated on. Cheating and getting cheated on is almost a universal human experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/19 09:23 PM |
| 10 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?A lot of women here at least seem to think that. Also, the way Incel is described in the media is definiteley painting the picture of mysogynistic violent men. It matters where you draw the line. You might call some feminists extremists. They might not call themselves extremists. The boundary is fuzzy but the common theme is they all run under the label of feminism and they use that label to get (blind) support. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/19 09:18 PM |
| 12 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?Uhm.. no. That score has been settled. Modern western feminism has nothing to do with those things. Basically, pulling the "allowed to vote card" is like a gang saying "we support local businesses". Sure, it's true... but it's not really the defining part. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/19 09:14 PM |
| 1 | Never split the bill. Is this a good rule for women?... is good for a pillow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/19 04:42 PM |
| 1 | Are young people taking relationships too seriously?If you're a 30ish man then pretty much any decent woman within your age range has kids. There's no way you could date one that doesn't. It'll be hard to find a woman that doesn't have kids and the ones that don't either don't want children or there's something off. Being 30ish woman with no children is like being 30ish virgin man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/19 04:36 PM |
| 2 | Never split the bill. Is this a good rule for women?I see. A male shit test. Interesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/19 04:25 PM |
| 1 | Are young people taking relationships too seriously?I'm not buying that story anyway. Single moms treating men like kings? Why? What for? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/19 04:20 PM |
| 1 | Never split the bill. Is this a good rule for women?So it's a shit test. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/19 04:05 PM |
| 1 | Are young people taking relationships too seriously?Well.. yeah. Otherwise he wouldn't play single mothers. Would be pretty dumb to do that if you have other options available. I mean... in terms of effort this oughta be a lot of effort just to get some love (and sex). Constantly moving in and out, being a temporary father etc. etc. Presumably he ain't good looking. I don't see any other reason to pull something like that off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/19 04:04 PM |
| 1 | Never split the bill. Is this a good rule for women?You think a guy won't risk 5$ for sex? Anything less than 200$ is technically cheaper than a prostitute. If that's the threshold you need 200$ dates :D. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/19 09:31 AM |
| 1 | Never split the bill. Is this a good rule for women?It's because they view relationships as sex for goods/money instead of as two humans liking each other. Back in the day where women didn't work and needed to marry because they weren't self-sustained it made sense that men have to pay simply for practical reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/19 06:19 AM |
| 1 | Never split the bill. Is this a good rule for women?What's the point of offering if there's no interest to actually pay? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/19 06:13 AM |
| 1 | Are young people taking relationships too seriously?Everybody is a dirtbag when left with no other choice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/19 06:00 AM |
| 3 | Most women oppose the legalization of prostitution because they fear that prostitutes will render the idea of "chasing a woman" obselete.Yep. CMV shouldn't be "gender X sucks. Lel. CMV" without any substance behind it. At least OPs should provide some logical reasonings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/19 05:56 AM |
| 1 | EXPECTING a woman to have sex with you by the 3rd date is ridiculous.My cows need food. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/19 02:13 PM |
| 1 | EXPECTING a woman to have sex with you by the 3rd date is ridiculous.Sex on first date has advantages and disadvantages. Advantages For women: - she imm. knows whether he's good enough in bed. - doesn't matter. Had snu snu. For men: - he imm. know whether she considers him good enough. - doesn't matter. Had snu snu. This avoids realizing after 2mo that he ain't good in bed thus no 2mo wasted for him/her. Disadvantages For women - he might not be good in bed but maybe is otherwise great and maybe things get better over time. - used for sex For men: - if he's not g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/19 02:11 PM |
| 1 | EXPECTING a woman to have sex with you by the 3rd date is ridiculous."The goods". "Give up". You don't give up anything. FFS when will this sub stop treating sex like it's something he gets and she gives. That's the wrong way to look at it if you're a feminist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/19 01:58 PM |
| 1 | Men act like women are so ridiculous for going for shitty dudes, but men do the same thing with shitty women.All exes are shitty. This is just posthoccery. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/19 01:55 PM |
| 11 | Q4RP: What do you think of women not dating conservative, right-leaning, republican, and Trump-supporting men?Good for them. Wouldn't date a Trumpy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/19 01:54 PM |
| 0 | What's causing more single, sexless, frustrated and lonely men?: the fat woman pandemic or the resulting hypergamy of the women with healthy BMI's?Yep. Obesity man. FDA do something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/19 01:41 PM |
| 1 | The components for creating life show us the value of the genders - women are the prize, men are disposable and easily replaceable. Doesn't society just mimic it?Ok. 25% of men want 3 babies. 75% want one baby. Total babies: 0.25x3+0.75*1 = 1.5. So 100 men have 150 babies. 25 have 75 babies and 75 have 75 babies. Meaning 25% father 50% of children. All men get laid in this scenario. Happy now? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/19 10:56 AM |
| 1 | The components for creating life show us the value of the genders - women are the prize, men are disposable and easily replaceable. Doesn't society just mimic it?25% of men father almost 50% of the babies. Doesn't imply the most attractive ones. Maybe the other 75% just want one baby and not more while 25% wants 3 babies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/19 10:20 AM |
| 1 | Experiment proposalEh. Doubt men are that stupid. It's just out of 100 matches maybe only 5-10 are what one would consider decent matches but 5-10 decent matches a month is still 10 times the amount of decent matches male colleagues would get. Some even get zero matches a year even when swiping right on everybody. I can completely understand that men don't give a fuck you have to weed out hundreds of thirst ass men because overall you're still hundreds of times better off than your male colleagues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/19 07:06 AM |
| 5 | Is it the norm now that women will fuck on the first date?The answer is astonishingly simple: It's about measuring your sexual performance. Women nowadays don't want to waste time getting to know a man only to then find out he's not great in bed. The solution is to have sex very early. There's plenty of good men no need to waste a second with somebody who isn't great in bed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/19 06:44 AM |
| 1 | Is it the norm now that women will fuck on the first date?Spotted the incel. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/19 06:41 AM |
| 2 | Sex Expectations Between Men & Women Are Actually So Different, Science SaysNo, they are unanimously deemed inacceptable. By men, by women. Stop your bullshit. Compare: he feels she's into him (like it's a classic "does she want him to initiate?" situation, they've been dating, they're close), he's trying to make out with her. She says no, he gets off her. Coercion maybe, but not rape nor assault. She says no, he grabs her, pulls clothes off. That's assault. If he continues then it progresses to rape. Come on. This distinction ain't that hard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/19 11:37 PM |
| 2 | Sex Expectations Between Men & Women Are Actually So Different, Science SaysWell.. "wanna have sex?" doesn't work probably so of course there needs to be more convincing/pressure going on. the majority of women have sex when they dont want to, do sexual acts because of pressure etc , have different expectations Pressuring isn't rape. Unless you pressure with violence or similar. imagine a big man firmly asks you to have anal , repeatedly fingers you anally, That on the other hand IS sexual misconduct. Tip: Walk away. If you're being kissed and you don't want it then wal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/19 11:29 PM |
| 1 | Q4W Would you date a man in poverty?Poverty how. My country considers you poor if you ONLY have money for rent, food, health insurance, household stuff, clothes, 1 year gym membership, transport and 2x1 weeks vacation per year but no money for 350$ shoes. Few women would date such a man. You need money for 350$ shoes. That's sadly what life is about for many women. The ones that would are women who don't value materialistic things more than the rest. It's not about poverty. It's about status. It ain't enough to have enough. It ain… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/19 11:10 PM |
| 2 | I have zero sympathy for men who go after wrong girls, then act surprised when they get hurtNo, they ignore it because most crazy girls aren't crazy until they are together. Classic PD craziness only shows up when they are in a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/19 10:55 PM |
| 1 | I have zero sympathy for men who go after wrong girls, then act surprised when they get hurtUsually you have no idea whom she/he has dated or fucked in the past you know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/19 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Why do you desire virgins?Most men don't give a fuck about N-count. Maybe TRP does but they're negligible. Women care a lot about N-count because they don't want to teach how to fuck. Too much effort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/19 10:51 PM |
| 1 | For those who value female virginity, when SHOULD a woman start having sex?There's barely any virgin shaming against women so..? Whenever she feels ready to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/19 10:48 PM |
| 1 | Is being pressured to have sex the price we pay for the freedom to pursue it?If men have to initiate sex then under the assumption that men can't read minds they will initiate it when the woman isn't interested which may make her feel pressured. That's inevitable. Solution: "honey, not now." "But it's hard?" "Sorry, another day. " "Hmpf. Fine." Now, some women will now surely scream "entitlement! He should have been happy she said no instead of expressing frustration". That's inevitable. This is reddit. No, nothing to do with reddit. That's just feminism taken too far. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/19 10:40 PM |
| 1 | Lonely women have it different, but it is still bad.Pretty sure a regular male virgin doesn't want some random undesirable woman either. In that sense I see no difference between femcels and malecels. Yes, femcels could easily get sex but it ain't just about the sex. Same for malecels. It ain't about the sex. However. . At any point 50% of men are single. There pretty much statistically has to be at least one desirable man there. I mean... the statement "no desirable men around" when 50% of men are single makes you sound like "but <hot celebrity>… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/19 10:24 PM |
| 1 | Has men's standards of desired attractiveness in women always been so basic?Women are the pickier sex. Men don't really give a fuck about your looks if you're not obese. I don't know a time where this would've been different. Pressure on women to look "so good" does not come from men the way you might be thinking. It's a result of women competing for attractive men which due to women being picky are very scarce and it's the scarcity of attractive men that creates the pressure as a result of women having high standards for looks. There IS however pressure from men on wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/19 10:06 PM |
| 1 | Thoughts on /FemaleDatingStrategy/?It's incel rhetoric. They're incels EXCEPT they're probably not celibate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/19 09:58 PM |
| 1 | (Hypothetical) Do you think it's "predatory" if...Tricking someone into having a baby is not ok. This goes for both parties. I think if there was no agreement then it's not the couple's baby but her's (it's her body). She can decide to keep it, he can't force abortion, but if she keeps it then it's legally not his kid (also implies no visitation rights). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/19 09:56 PM |
| 1 | How do you know if you’re really into someone or if you only want to have sex with them? And how should I act in the absence of certainty?Do you want to put your dick in it or do you want a shared life? Pretty simple shouldn't it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/19 09:56 PM |
| 1 | f/femaledatingstrategy is a great sub!Yeah. Ok. Ok. Ok. This is why you should go to school. "A hit me so I hit back." "B hit me so I hit back." Repeat. "A lied to me so I'll lie to A." "B is lying to me. You can't trust B. Let's lie some more." Repeat. You'll hopefully realize that the only winning move is NOT TO play the game? Relationships are based on what? TRUST. If you destroy trust what are you left with? Nothing. You'll lose everything. If we continue this fuckfest of hating, abusing and spreading batshit crazy misinformatio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/19 09:43 PM |
| 1 | r/femaledatingstrategy is basically reddit version of shitty cosmopolitan magazine advice except its with "adult" language and poorly mirroring TRP lingo.This doesn't work mutually. If everybody would think "if the other doesn't say 'hi' first they don't want anything from me" then nobody would say 'hi'. Inevitably one party thus has to feel entitled and the other party desperate enough to fulfill that entitlement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/19 09:28 PM |
| 1 | r/femaledatingstrategy is basically reddit version of shitty cosmopolitan magazine advice except its with "adult" language and poorly mirroring TRP lingo.Ok, time to get banned from that sub. FDS is essentially using incel rhetoric. I doubt they are "incels" but the rhetoric and theme is exactly the same. It's a cesspool of a hate group. Incels works by overgeneralizing women and using basically stereotypical myths to argue from. Most incels at least. Others do work by using valid research but blow the results out of proportion. FDS does exactly the same thing just genders flipped. FDS has as much PRACTICAL understanding of men as Incels have of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/19 09:17 PM |
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