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Thinking you have a better point in a discussion about logical deduction because you get dicked down at home is exactly the type of reason that I don't think your understanding my point at all 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 09:40 PM
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This is frustrating af I'm not arguing that people arent attracted to looks I'm arguing that women not following your premise or priorities does not make women BaD aT lOgIc. It makes them have different values
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 08:46 PM
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Attraction is nebulous. Sorry but it is. Are hot guys more likely to have more women find them hot? Fucking duh. It's still flawed to say that women can't logic like all you smart men because we don't subscribe to your strict interpretation of what's hot or not or prioritize what we find most attractive in a partner. Every response to me has been BuT HoT iS iMpOrTaNt. Yeah. I'm not arguing that. You have to attract someone to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 08:43 PM
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The post isn't about casual sex. It's about attraction itself which he tried to boil down to the most common denominators. The problem is thinking that it makes women the idiots for not agreeing with his logic when it's the premise that's weak
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 08:29 PM
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Well I agree you have a hard time understanding
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 08:16 PM
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If I come across a guy who's too perfectly hot, my attraction level takes a significant dip, unless he has a worthwhile personality, but even then he has some distance to make up I assume egotism, self-importance, a lack of empathy, A lack of accountability, and that a relationship with him would always be significantly insecure I'm using deductive reasoning that is not compatible with the bullshit in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 08:04 PM
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I'm not out here saying looking hot vs looking like a troll doesn't matter. I'm saying that OP doesn't get to make the premise of attraction itself his definition and then call women idiots for not following it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 07:48 PM
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Forearms are hot af. Idk why
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 07:43 PM
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You're trying to make attraction cold hard rules instead of the nebulous thing it is. You're not going to boil human sexuality down to an easy answer. Looks money and status (for both genders) all make them more beneficial as a possible partner. But is that the limit of attraction? Not even close
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 07:34 PM
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Premise three is just, like, your opinion man
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 07:20 PM
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No I'm very serious about those
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 03:49 PM
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Lol idk why it took away my spacing, I'll add some commas, thank you 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 02:47 PM
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Online dating Online dating Son of my parents friends School
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 12:32 AM
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You claimed men don't end relationships due to thinking they can do better. That they only end relationships because they are not getting adequate love. I'm calling bullshit Hope that helps
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:45 AM
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it’s not even your character flaws. Rather it’s because we’re figuring out that you don’t actually love us
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:41 AM
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You can't imagine any reason a man might end a relationship beyond not being loved enough? None at all? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:37 AM
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Men are incapable of being shallow? Lol. Nice try
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:34 AM
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Then yeah, the adults in your life failed you and failed to teach you to protect yourself. It is tantamount to neglect to not prepare you at all for the realities of dating and marriage. I'm sorry. I relate to it strongly actually, I was essentially raised to be a good wife and mother someday and was not expected or even tangentially punished for having any personality beyond that. The thing about TRP though is it's fundamental tenets makes all women out to be shallow selfish monsters. I don't f…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:14 PM
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When I spent some time online dating if I had a 10/10 message me it was an immediate defensive feeling. I was looking for a long term loving relationship and had 0 interest in games, being a notch in a bed post, or living my life insecurely wondering if he would wake up someday thinking he could do better. I still gave them a chance ofc. But almost always he was too cocky for my taste, made me feel like I was being hunted like an animal, or blatantly trying to get to sex as quickly as possible. …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:21 PM
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You didn't need red pill to self improve and take responsibility for your life. Or to hear that women want that in a man. Glad things are better for you at least
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:19 PM
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I'm pretty sure if a guy went into a guys only space and said no women at 9 events were attractive all the dudes would be like 'lmao, bunch land whales huh? Just go to a developing country and pick one from there' They don't tell him to try and be attracted to women he's isn't into either
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 05:19 PM
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An exception would be a failed date or ex, (and you trust her enough to be honest) and asking her what was a turn off. I had a guy do that after I let him know I wasn't up for a second date and I respected the hell outta that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:52 PM
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Hypothetically if her problem is that he spends all his free time with his friends and very little with her at home, how should she fix that on her own? What would you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 03:06 PM
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Women in other cultures still won't do 100% of the emotional labor for you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 08:45 PM
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Yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 08:28 PM
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You're really missing the point of my initial comment. u/kongeriket thinks he has to read his partner's mind because she doesn't explicitly solve the problem in the relationship for him and tell him exactly what to do I.e. all the emotional labor. I'm pointing out that you don't have to mind read, the partner already identified and presented the problem. He's just lazy and wants her to fix everything. All the responses to me though latched on to the phrase mind read and ignored everything I said…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 08:10 PM
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That is a joke. It is obviously clear that making your partner do that much work one sided would be a problem in the relationship. I'm teasing the commentor before me about not being able to pull his own weight in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 07:53 PM
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It's not equal for anyone to have to do all the emotional labor in a relationship regardless of gender. Do you disagree with that? You're bringing up an entirely different situation than the one this thread has been about. Which is fine ig, I'll acknowledge there are nightmarishly immature people of both genders
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 07:50 PM
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The guy in this thread literally just complained about a woman bringing up a problem in the relationship, and then not solving it on her own and just telling him what to do. If you think it's being a martyr to ask a man to talk about a problem and come to a solution together then I pray for any woman that has to deal with you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 07:39 PM
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It wouldn't be equal in the other direction either, which you clearly seem to realize, But I guess you just wanted to whine?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 07:27 PM
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Respectfully, your comment doesn't make sense so I can't really address whatever your point is. I didn't say anyone should anticipate anything. I said you should work to solve problems with your partner through communication
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 06:40 PM
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This thread is under the premise that one partner has already identified and communicated a specific problem they are having. But then he's complaining that she doesn't also solve the problem on her own. Idk where you're getting that someone is lying about having a problem or not
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 06:35 PM
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That's why communication is important. If you're partner brings up a problem with you COMMUNICATE and work on a solution together that works for both of you. Don't force your partner to do all of the emotional labor and relationship maintenance on their own. It's exhausting
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 05:25 PM
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So women have to identify the problem, communicate the problem, figure out how to fix your relationship, communicate how to and then convince you to fix it, and do their part in fixing it? I think I can anticipate what the problem is if you want any help, I hear you can't read minds
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/25 04:24 PM
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I agree that male sexuality is under attack but your support for that claim is not good. Reducing sexualization of women and girls is not an attack on men's sexuality. You can keep liking it as much as you want. It doesn't have to be everywhere for your preference to be valid These are your feelings. Some women complaining that being cold approached is uncomfortable are free to do that, and it IS uncomfortable. Its not fair that men are called creeps for it when they are being respectful though,…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 05:56 PM
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Ooooh you're saying YOU bang a bunch of 10's and they all cry for your dick but you don't go for used up whores. Got it. Very cool story bro, great evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 07:36 AM
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Women achieving the sex and the fun they want is not synonymous with them being rejected for relationships. Sounds like they are living the life they want, and sounds like you have a type
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:42 AM
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I'm not saying you'll get milk because you asked for it. It's not advice to achieve your goals because I don't care about that goal. I think it's a bad goal. Go ahead and ask for something that doesn't work because most women aren't interested in it and get very little out of it. It's not my life and doesn't affect me. What's so crazy is you think meaningless sex has high standards when it's just shallow standards. Whereas the standards for building a life with someone actually matter and are BY…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:40 AM
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Seems more like a blue pill quality to me 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 10:01 PM
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I mean, I know it's got to happen but it seems to me like people hanging out having fun, seeing if deeper feelings develop, and going from there. Sure, maybe that happens for women punching up out of their league more often than for men? IDK. But people into casual sex generally know the deal and are choosing non-commitment style intimacy. I only see single men mentioning this subset of women that apparently exists that think casual sex is a pipeline to a stable relationship. I'm just not convin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 09:28 PM
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I'm convinced it's a male revenge fantasy that the majority of women hooking up are getting their hearts broken because they couldn't lock down a ONS. If you want milk get out there and ask for milk. Lots of people do it and seem happy If you want someone who cares about you as a person, wants to build a life with you, if you want someone to support you and to support in return through the downs and sicknesses and pains of life...well, then try not to call that person a cow would be my advice
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 07:11 PM
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He doesn't even have to be actively engaging in it for it to be true that sex is his priority with women It's a common belief among women because it is commonly true
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 10:06 PM
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Same thing LOL. Fear of rejection is ego
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:31 PM
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I came to say almost every one of these points. Just wanted to throw out there that I hope you nurture and protect that loving part in yourself, It's amazing it's gotten this far without the external support that you deserved. It's in style right now to be cynical and defeatist about relationships and takes a lot to feed the Good Wolf, so good luck out there
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:15 PM
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Men, having an increased portion of housework are the men who are in relationships, so you're defeating your own point here by using it as a marker of empathy. Men who are succeeding in relationships are taking on more of the housework so to speak
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 09:07 PM
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Depends if you're here for a good time or a long time
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 08:55 PM
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I was sexually harassed in church growing up more than anywhere else. Don't just assume that because you have good intentions. Other guys in your church do too. A lot of women have experiences where men have been manipulative, forceful, or flat out lied just to get access to our bodies. Not only that, but there is ample evidence online in male spaces that there are plenty of men whose primary goal is sex, if not their only goal Whatever video you watched it was either drama for engagement, or ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 08:52 PM
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My partner gets paid way less and works a much more physically draining job. My job takes little physical effort and pays much better I do the majority of the chores because it would be a disproportional burden on him, he takes on the dishes, (since I do the cooking and despise dishes). It's still a substantial amount of work and we both feel we are contributing equally this way despite the fact that my hours cleaning are greater than his hours cleaning
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 12:48 AM
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Based on the fact he didn't answer I assume he means making lewd comments to women. Safest bet
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 12:40 AM
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Again, I'm not "you guys" I'm giving you my experience, You definitely seem like the type who sees women as a monolith since my reasons are just excuses to you. It sounds very much like you don't give a crap about women's experiences and you just want an easier time for yourself I'm not under any obligation to date someone I asked out, he's also under no obligation to be honest or to continue a relationship after getting another notch in his belt. Please name any advantages cold approaching has …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 01:17 AM
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I'm not ready to accept that. But it does bring me peace to focus on my partner and make our relationship the best it can be
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 01:08 AM
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You think men behave one way, I think men behave another way, that's about as far as we can take the conversation I think a man being asked out in person is much more likely to say yes just for a chance at sex and hang on longer for the opportunity then the chances of mutually matching and vetting through a dating app. The app also has a multitude of other advantages that are less relevant to this conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 01:06 AM
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Sorry, "Nuh huh" isn't a good enough argument to change my feelings about desperate men. I'm not "making excuses for women all around" I'm giving my personal reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 01:00 AM
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A guy over text is going to lose interest more quickly if he's just hunting for no strings sex. It also takes away the power dynamic and the thrill of being the one pursued that would keep an in-person approach on the hook until he got what he wanted. Texting and the buffer of being able to immediately drop a match without risking personal contact info is a huge mental relief as well The progressive layers of matching, passing texting vibe check, passing the in person vibe check, passing the tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 12:46 AM
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My response depends on what you mean by 'hold back your sexuality' I really don't see many reasons to express your sexuality in polite company
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/25 12:05 AM
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It absolutely is not clear, words are important And his were carefully chosen to make women villains in his story Remember, no woman gets pregnant without sperm
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 11:53 PM
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It's particularly the sense of helplessness and the fact that if he decided to take it further, you couldn't do anything to stop him. That's the part that your body does not forget. Men as a group do not deserve to be treated as predators, And you shouldn't have to be terrified of making a woman feel uncomfortable. On the other hand I don't know a single woman who made it to adulthood without an experience of sexual harassment, and a good amount who experienced sexual violence. Gender relations …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 11:51 PM
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If you have ever had friendliness met with an inappropriate and uncomfortable level of sexual interest then you would understand. It's absolutely a minority of men who do this but the consequences are real. Especially since it's likely to happen to girls when we are way too young
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 11:32 PM
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because I don't think it's men's fault for the state of the dating landscape as it is. I think the desperation out there right now is a valid reaction to the male loneliness epidemic. That doesn't make me want to take any more risks than I need to though. Finding a lonely guy on an app to be a good girlfriend to does as much good as finding a lonely guy in my neighborhood to be a good girlfriend too, but it did feel less risky to me
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 11:09 PM
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This was before the release of AI. I'm well aware that men can fake interest, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 11:02 PM
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That would only work if my messages were also pretty bland and copy paste. Which I put a lot of effort into not doing. I also was usually the first to suggest a date so that I could choose the location and activity. If in person vibes were off that was the end of it too
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 10:56 PM
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When I was interested in starting a relationship. I was extremely reluctant to try approaching men, I have absolutely no interest in having a desperate guy say yes just for the chance at sex without any genuine interest in me as a human being. At least doing the app thing puts us on equal footing and I know I can vet and if the guy has easier prey he'll lose interest in me and go after that in a short enough time span. And I know I would stand out from other women by being engaging, communicativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 10:49 PM
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Then let me encourage you to actually make friends with women. The socialization will only benefit you and your ability to connect with your spouse later on in life. It'll increase your chances of actually meeting somebody you'll want to make your wife. And it will help you to internalize the fact that women are just people too. If anyone is taking advantage of you, or not treating you right, then maintain your boundaries and have self-respect. It's harder than it sounds, something like that tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:13 PM
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If you admire them for qualities beyond lust then you should be able to value their friendship. If you have a consistent issue where women treat you like trash then you have to start question your taste in women. I say the same thing to my friend that keeps getting into relationships with trashy men. Being incapable of maintaining friendships with the opposite gender is still a huge red flag though
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 09:01 PM
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I'm not though. Being incapable of being friends with women because you can't help seeing them lustfully is not the piety you think it is
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:24 PM
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"I can't be friends with women because Ill always want to fuck them" is a you problem and the reason womens trust in men has eroded off the cliff
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 08:16 PM
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You called yourself that, just saying 😂 Listen, you probably have good life experience that makes you feel that way, a lot of people have been badly traumatized by the other gender. Just please make the effort to recognize in yourself when you are being blinded by resentment or closing yourself off to reason, festering is a poor way to live
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 07:26 PM
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Alright you go ahead and enjoy that gorge in your shoulder
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 07:04 PM
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Men absolutely get sympathy when he accidently gets someone pregnant just like women who accidently get pregnant get sympathy. Taking a risk and having an accident is not the same as choosing to have an accident
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 06:45 PM
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You missed my point. Does the baseball player CHOOSE to have a broken jaw? Let me answer for you No. That would be a dumbass thing to say. How risky your behavior is is a spectrum but the word choice means that's THE OUTCOME YOU INTENDED.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:56 PM
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The ones with a more uplifted and well-rounded outlook grew tired of the sub as threads got more and more repetitive and accusatory. They left creating a spiral of lower quality content, lower brow replies, and more shit slinging which drove off more of the good faithers. I think moderation also took a bit of a dive and that didn't help. The core group now are the ones with the most axe to grinds and the most despair, they also like seeing the validation and support of similar experiences and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:43 PM
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Therapy helped me turn around a terminally self destructive path. This guy is the one typing with his pants around his ankles
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:35 PM
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Time to get offline
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:32 PM
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You fixed the post 👍 9/10 of the women I work with put in 40-50 hours of work a week and also do the vast majority of the cooking, cleaning, childcare, planning, errands and shopping for their households. 3/10 have absolute stumps of husbands who stopped even pulling a quarter of the weight when one or more of their children were still babies. 2/10 divorced when their children went to college and have sworn off ever giving anything of themselves to a man again 1/10 was physically and sexually ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:29 PM
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I choose to play baseball. That doesn't mean I choose to have my jaw broken by a 90mph hardball. I knew it was a risk and I took precautions against it, but I also love the game, love being on a team, and didn't want to be injured. Then some asshat came down out of the stands and told me I was asking for it, doesn't even blame the pitcher for throwing the ball at me. He was just having fun right? I chose to be on the wrong side of the ball, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:21 PM
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This reeks of insecurity. "Don't be friends with women IN CASE you catch feelings and IN CASE she rejects those feelings and IN CASE she then takes advantage of those feelings and IN CASE you can't maintain boundaries. Just imagine!" You weren't friends with her, you were orbiting. If she starts treating you like a meal ticket after rejecting you then she is no longer your friend and cut it off. You deserve that self respect. You should know that bringing feelings into a friendship is almost alw…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:13 PM
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I think that was more true a decade ago than it is today. We are well aware of how widespread male virginity is getting
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:05 PM
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How to expose online that you don't understand consent and are proud of it ☝️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 04:33 PM
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You like food, so why do you dodge when I chuck an apple at your face?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 01:30 PM
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A rare green flag!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 07:59 PM
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What's bizarre is you acting like OP is out there pinning chastity belts on people. He's just making his expectation known. It's not forcing anyone to do anything and it's up to the partner to decide if waiting is something they are ok with What did OP say that made you think he was 'imposing' anything rather than communicating his desires? Besides the word 'make' ofc
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 07:56 PM
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"you can't make anyone do anything, that's toxic!" Virtue signalling to signal that you have virtue
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 04:10 PM
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It's wild that OP needs this explained
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 04:07 PM
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This is a bizarre response. You are just virtue signaling because OP used the word 'make'. You're not forcing anyone to do anything by keeping a boundary with your own body until you're ready, what a wild take
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 03:55 PM
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Most men would sleep around if they could, and yet hypocritically judge women for doing it Expecting acceptance is also not an issue. If you don't accept it then don't be with that person. I don't want to be with someone who slept around a lot either. I call it a preference and date accordingly, instead of dragging an entire gender for it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 03:39 AM
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Men call the marriage material guys betas, not women not the women with any respect for men at least. RPW have just as much an issue with misandrists as RPM does with misogynists after all I think the same proportions of men and women will end up single. But a larger percentage of those women will be by choice than the men's half. I think that a portion of dense women not understanding their league is a problem, but those women were already dense anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 12:14 AM
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What are you even asking? If unattractive people try and match with attractive people? Yes. It happens
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:28 PM
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Neither previous partner was in the same league in looks with my current partner. The second had a visible disability. They were men I knew in person and had a bond with before they asked me out. I wasn't less attracted to them or enjoyed sex less with them because they weren't models. Even with my current match I'm not with him because of his looks. "It's not all looks, you still have a chance" is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:20 PM
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Contraceptives are for men and women you dingus. Just because women have to be the ones to take them doesn't mean it's not just as beneficial to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:11 PM
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Is it women's health or pregnancy funding? Are you aware of a long medical history of ignoring women-only health issues or inclusion as broader research subjects?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 06:00 PM
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It shows genuine sexual attraction for purely physical features of one another. Human sexuality is much more than that and men taking it as an insult that shallow sex has shallow preferences is wild. I can't comprehend why they think that attraction based on real connection, trust and YES ACTUAL PHYSICAL ATTRACTION AS WELL is somehow less desirable than being settled for for a quick get off
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 05:52 PM
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My only gripe with this is that red pill men fail to acknowledge that men do the same thing. Fuck around as much as you can until you get someone you don't want to let go of. The root of the bitterness is that men are fucking with much lower standards than women are. So all women who want to fuck around get to do that in the same life stage that men are doing the same thing Then yeah, priorities DO change (compatibility for cohabitation mostly, imo) for men and women. Qualities that are importan…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:12 AM
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Where is this coming from? I always only ever see men saying it, even content of women complaining about dating I've come across are usually either demanding a high level of treatment and aren't getting it, or actual valid atrocious behavior they've witnessed or suffered from.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 06:50 AM
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And dark handsome guys can be mean. It's unhelpful to reduce taste to three qualities
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 06:46 AM
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Well-reviewed product? Yuck. I want to be with someone that practices long term stable relationships. Not communal dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 06:44 AM
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And guys are into thin bubbly and pretty? What are you on about? My partner is tall dark and handsome, but I went on first dates with tall dark and handsome before him too. I chose him for his heart, his warmth, and his passion. Summarizing is worthless. Everyone wants the whole package and everyone wants to be loved
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 06:41 AM
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Some of us just genuinely believe the ideology and aren't desperately looking to turn everything into validation or an advantage
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 06:30 AM
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I did not pretend that, I could accuse you of pretending that men don't get into relationships just to have a bang maid, or to be taken care of, or purely for prestige. There will always be transactional relationships what's helpful is that they're a 1:1 ratio
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 11:32 PM
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He's claimed to be in 4 long term relationships and still managed to fit 30 more women in-between. It's not the number it's the rate
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:56 PM
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Yeah, because your history has nothing to do with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:49 PM
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Would you be a slut if you could?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:29 PM
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Spiting the system. Yes. Spiting the gender. No. Especially when it's for not doing something instead of being condemned for actual actions
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:23 PM
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Yeah you have to be mostly non threatening in a way that women don't have to worry about in the opposite direction, I still disagree with your semantics though. "Player" implies he somehow fools women into sex, and they have no agency. Men might call that a player women would use less tasteful descriptors. Hoe is more appropriate for both parties
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:44 PM
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Fair enough. That's toxic AF so worth calling out
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:20 PM
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It's a man-hoe. It doesn't take much skill anymore thanks to the apps, just like you'd call a woman a hoe for the exact same thing. He was already in LTR territory, so long as he was capable of/interested in it. I was speaking from the perspective of women interested in casual, which at 34 he obviously got plenty of
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:18 PM
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There's tons of reasons, that one is a major one for me. 'Should' has to come from everyone or there won't be any change at all
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:14 PM
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You're only interpreting it in the most shallow way possible. To me protecting my man means never making him look bad in front of other people. It means making sure he has good food to eat and knows when I worry about his health. It means being a safe place for him to be vulnerable. It means fiercely defending him when other people disrespect or try and take advantage of him, being loyal, making my affection and desire for him unquestionable, and it means fighting for our relationship if I need …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:11 PM
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I got the love I needed from my parents Lucky bastard Both are foolish Agreed, one leaves you isolated the other leaves you at risk. Can't help it though, if I don't get to pour my heart into someone then I don't get the point of anything at all
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:39 PM
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Because that is the topic of the comment chain you replied to, I'm trying to understand you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:24 PM
1

So you disagree that the giving and receiving should be mutual?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:21 PM
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I don't get your pity party here man. 'should' and 'reality' are not the same. Women should approach because they should feel confident that a man wouldn't say yes just for the faint possibility of sex. That's not reality yet, maybe some day
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:17 PM
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Initiate? Hard to say, majority of women aren't initiators. I will say that most average men get into relationships and marriages though
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:58 PM
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I told you the world is a cruel and shitty place. You can jump on the 'fuck you, got mine' train. It is popular. I'll go down on the 'find a person and love them completely' iceberg every time
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:56 PM
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Times are changing ba-by 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:51 PM
1

Women like looking at pictures of themselves looking nice, so they have them at hand
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:46 PM
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This would have been relevant 100 years ago. Now most women work
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:45 PM
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The giving and getting should be mutual, I thought I made that pretty clear. Did you respond to the wrong comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:43 PM
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In the OP he is freaking out about a body count of 2. He's not demonizing the count he's demonizing that she dare chose to have sex without commitment. It is more rare for women to have lots of meaningless sex than for men to, so yes it makes sense to expect women on average to have a lower number. If that's important to you then move on, though I think you'll have a hard time finding a number lower than 2
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:41 PM
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Reality and Tinder are different. Tinder is for casual hookups that don't care about sexual history, so the attractive women will screw attractive men, and a lot of the attractive men will screw unattractive women too. In reality and in LTR's people mostly stay in their league. And men settle for less ideal traits more easily than women do, but that doesn't make them more variable in what they are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:37 PM
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Men protect and provide because if they don't then you men may as well not even exsist, it's that simple. What a disgusting thing to say. Men and women should be mutually beneficial to eachother because the world is a cruel shitty place and we NEED eachother in a plethora of ways. We also NEED to give of ourselves, as a matter of our humanity. Men and women NEED and SHOULD protect and support ONE ANOTHER and anyone leveraging power to act like an abusive lazy twat deserves to die alone. You shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:28 PM
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34 makes you a man-hoe. And not representative of the 'average'. you're likely a mix of med-high attractiveness and extra points in 'non-threatening' that pushes you into 'eligible for pump and dump' territory
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:19 PM
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I completely agree with you. The set up is completely in the favor of the women who want to hook up since the supply and demand is laughably in their favor. But their actions are 100% in line with the selfish nature of casual sex In a room of 100 men and 100 women just about all 100 men are down for and want casual sex, maybe 40 women are and of those 40, 20 are more curious to try it out but not make a personality out of it. Those 40 have the pick of the men and don't care about their sexual hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:12 PM
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He sure is. The difference is that 'settling' is the superior option for women. "Not only am I attracted to you but I trust you and want to build a future with you" is an insult to a man apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:00 PM
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And what does it tell? I picked my words carefully
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:57 PM
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The pool of women having casual sex is much smaller than the pool of men who want to have casual sex. The few women doing it are choosing attractive guys. What's so hard to understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:55 PM
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Sounds like you're a dork too. Glad you found eachother
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:52 PM
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I think it's pretty clear here that women are doing the pumping and dumping, what's wild is that men don't take it as a compliment to be the one she chose not to dump
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:38 PM
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The bar is lower for women strictly because men's standards are lower. That's all, and that's not a compliment to women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:31 PM
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Maybe yeah, but you're not a victim because you weren't chosen for meaningless sex. The the short end of the genetic stick is my guess The majority of people were not born attractive enough for that, purity culture and consequences of uninhibited sex put that bar way higher and it's still only just starting to come down. The point is that women who do have casual sex are deciding that's what they want to do, and then choosing someone attractive, why wouldn't they? If men had a choice they would …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:28 PM
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Were you in the right place at the right time? Were you a safe option? Were you likely to make her the target of gossip or judgment? Did you give green flags? Were you fun? Flirty? Are you ugly, overweight or off-putting? Did you smell nice look clean and dress like an adult? I can't tell you what went wrong, if you didn't have enough gas pedal to tempt women, or you had the brake pedal too far pressed and they weren't interested. Attraction is obviously a factor in hooking up, But it's not like…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 08:19 PM
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It's crazy to assume that the woman wanted and could not acquire an LTR with a guy she hooked up with instead of actually doing what she did, which is hooking up. Repeating what everyone else has said. This is toxic insecurity on the side of the guy who imagines that women's 'default' is pristine purity, but she was driven wild by some uncontrollable overwhelming attraction that you fail to arouse in her. It's like you're incapable of seeing women as exploring sexuality, commitment, and inhibiti…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 07:51 PM
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Lol. I'm sure your whole point was to celebrate all the 'below average' 'happy sex lives' out there. And not to talk about how easy sex was for you your fist time
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:33 PM
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If you understand that then you should see why your original post is wrong. But I'm guessing this was all just orchestrated as a humble brag about getting your partner to orgasm your first try. Here's your cum star, congrats ⚪
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:08 PM
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You still don't get it. This is the kind of skill set that you get better at with experience and intentional awareness, a lot of men and women don't even have a framework to start guessing at it before they get their feet wet with intimacy and experiencing it with more than one person is beneficial to understanding what is normal and what is their partners personal quirks. It's wild to suggest that men should just know all this with their first partner and to accuse them of lacking empathy for n…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 10:21 PM
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I have no idea who you're talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 10:03 PM
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Unfortunately this is a debate sub and we don't accept mind reading as evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 09:58 PM
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You should talk to them about their hypocrisy rather than make a post about it here, claiming that it's a pervasive liberal issue
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 09:55 PM
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It's strange to make a post asking why a group people are lying about something, even though it's consistent with their ideology there and by your own admission the majority of them are saying it. This seems a lot more like your hang up than any inconsistency on their part, even with an anecdotal experience from one friend group
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 09:48 PM
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Good luck with that Edit: Btw you are drastically downplaying the consequences of STI's in your edit. Lifelong effects are a big deal and due to anatomy women suffer to a greater degree from them. I highly recommend educating yourself more on the subject especially if you intend to take in large numbers of partners
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 09:32 PM
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You aren't describing empathy ffs. You give advice like understand anatomy, don't be awkward, be good at reading body language, to know how to give criticism in an extremely vulnerable situation, and you even suggest to just know what she's thinking through her hands (wtf?) This is an insanely high bar for teens/young adults that are exploring sex for the first time. Your very first suggestion is to be gentle yet firm, those are exact opposites, how is a guy supposed to know what that means when…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 09:31 PM
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A lot of people can build a relationship without fooling themselves into thinking their partner is perfect and everything will last forever. I get it, you won't risk having your heart broken so you avoid long-term relationships all together. Even if I was that far gone I doubt I would resort to casual sex The health and mental risks are just way too high
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 09:08 PM
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Except that they come with the pros of building a relationship unlike casual flings
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 08:43 PM
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Everything you listed in your first paragraph is something that takes practice, especially when inexperience makes you self-conscious stuck in your own head It would be insane to expect men to be good at that level of intimacy with limited experience
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 08:22 PM
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Preference. I'm not afraid of being emotionally involved with men But I am afraid of exposing myself to sexually transmitted diseases, pregnancy, foundationless intimacy, physical abuse, And all the same possibilities and pitfalls of emotional entanglement anyways. There is none of the reward of building trust, vulnerability or intimate knowledge of how to make the other person feel good. As a giver, that's a huge negative in both directions for me. The chance of it becoming common knowledge tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 08:13 PM
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Not surprised to hear that either. Social awkwardness is forgivable in women, it's praised as quirkiness 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 08:04 PM
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So you accept that the state of things is engineered to be this way, and that therefore it is valid to feel like you're getting the short end of the stick?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:27 PM
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You are correct that no one owes you love and sex but that's a small piece of the landscape. Social structures, the economy, supply and demand of the dating market, drastic shifts in technology and how the sexes relate to each other, and public discourse permeating every level of our lives are all SYSTEMIC and DAMAGING, and I'm not expert, I'm sure there are many aspects subtle and glaring I'm missing. It's not incel behavior to feel absolutely betrayed by the way things are, or to grapple with …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:19 PM
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if you look at what these days gets posted as “creepy” behavior usually doesn’t involve persistence Stop. You're falling for engagement bait. And since you fall for it you're going to be fed more and more of it to keep you engaged until you have a completely unbalanced perception of what women are concerned about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:14 PM
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Sounds like you have a type for a crappy partner
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:11 PM
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I would be a bit repulsed and need to reevaluate my feelings about him. Id also acknowledge that I would forever feel insecure about our sex life and anticipating him getting bored of me
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:10 PM
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If you turn the volume off and watch the show it becomes a lot more obvious that the men are dressed to be characters and the women are dressed to increase viewership. It's always been this way. It never bothered me unduly because women in real life did the same thing. Dressed for viewership more often than not
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:07 PM
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Casual sex is unpleasant. That isn't from a position of shame just preference
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:02 PM
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This is the funniest comment I have ever seen on PPD oh My God 🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 08:30 PM
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The value of Casual sex debate is mostly a red herring to hide the fact that women have it easier in almost every aspect of dating and forming relationships. The fact that they don't form satisfying relationships is because women don't have the social skills to do so THIIIIIIIIISSSSSS Someone finally said it!! It's not just men suffering from lack of social skills in the current climate they are just more likely to have it in the way that makes you socially awkward, whereas women get the day to …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 07:36 PM
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Polygamy is a committed relationship. Casual sex isn't
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 06:57 PM
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Semantics and coping. They are having casual sex with someone open to casual sex, they are both 'sharing' at the same time that 'sharing' loses meaning since they aren't being possessive. "Sharing" is only possible in a relationship where you get a say in who the other person has sex with
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 06:50 PM
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Ok Mr. Black Pot 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 04:36 PM
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if you felt personally targeted by that, that’s on you. That's not what was said youre imagining it instead of engaging with the core idea Your core idea was that women only care about sex. That's what I responded to, it also doesn't merit an intellectual discussion because it's ridiculous. You're the one trying to shift the conversation to whining about being attacked rather than say anything about your core idea. you tried to discredit me by calling me unstable I still think your claim that wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 04:14 PM
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That attraction beats being 'good' when it comes to attracting a partner, (but it's not mutually exclusive). That women and men have different base drives in how they pick partners (and that's ok) and that understanding that can only help. I do think we are in a new paradigm with how men and women relate to each other, that women have a massive advantage in the dating market and that that is a serious problem. Though I don't have any solutions better than anyone else's
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 04:01 PM
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Blue pill is just a troll. As in, it's not an ideology itself, just an opposition of red pill and so has no claims. Men have it way worse than I thought. Tinder stats were a meme to me until I realized that's just the most extreme version of a very real and very frustrating reality. Some men have chosen anger and they'd rather look like fools than let that fire get dimmer. Reading comprehension is genuinely flagging. I'm not sure if it's encountering bots designed to drive conflict, if it's peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 03:44 PM
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I'm not convinced the women who genuinely enjoy casual sex (smaller percent than those that claim to) are genuinely happier for doing it. I see a correlation with substance abuse, rock bottom self esteem, and volatile relationships more often than not, even when they seem pleased with their flings
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 03:34 PM
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You don't have an intellectual argument to weigh the merits of. I didn't accuse you of being an incel and I couldn't care less if you are dating. I didn't move goalposts or call you desperate or manipulative. I accused you of being unstable, which I'm pretty sure was a bullseye considering how unhinged and persecuted your response has been
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 02:58 PM
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It was pretty far down on my list but I do think I'm in the minority. I even think it would be wise to care about it more than I do. I just know myself, I could be happy in a relationship taking care of my partners needs and making him happy, and taking care of myself when I needed it, so long as the compatibility went that far. I have things I care more about and making a partner happy is it's own reward in a major way
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 05:20 AM
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Despite the terrible example I do agree that asocial people are not automatically losers. But these ones STILL are social regularly, even if they would avoid it if they could
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 05:12 AM
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the only unit of value they contemplate is sex Sure buddy. Reducing half the population to one motive is a sure fire sign of a stable mind
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 05:09 AM
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Part of our "power" is a victim's complex that makes it difficult to admit advantage in any aspect or risk losing that get-out-of-jail-free card. Women's archetype as victim is the source of nearly endless compassion and preferential treatment. This is reinforced by women AND men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 07:03 PM
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I wasn't acting like anything. Just pointing out the terrible methodology
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 10:44 PM
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Yes that's my point
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 08:07 PM
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Ok the looksmaxxing comment did make me laugh. It's absolutely the mascinulized version of what women have been doing since the beginning of time. Still I can't agree with the rest of it. What's happening with online dating and the fall of socialization in young people far outreaches the consequences of women getting jobs and supporting themselves. That's been happening a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:35 AM
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I think it's very important to use our brains and intentionally become a better society. I think balancing that progress with biological truths is imperative for success. As usual the right answer lies between the extremes. A sterilized robotic ideal vs an animalistic brutal reality
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 12:38 AM
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Not a very good metaphor for the situation though, because risk is the subject, but it does sound like you get my point. I will say that the way things SHOULD be in a fair and equal society and the way things are now are not the same. It wouldn't hurt women at all to face some rejections or put in more effort to get relationships. I just don't think it's realistic when it's easy for women not to
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 12:23 AM
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I'm sorry that I am. It's shameful that women aren't more empathetic to men. Cheers friend
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 10:58 PM
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Usually asking for my number or socials
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 08:01 PM
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Why not? Long term is my goal after all
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 08:00 PM
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I'd agree if I wanted a relationship and not getting an offer from someone I wanted to be with. But that's not the case When I was ready for a relationship I made a dating profile, went on some dates and when I found something special went exclusive. If yall find that lazy then ok, you do you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 07:59 PM
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Straight women don't have a choice to avoid the danger so we don't. I also imagine the pool of partners is very different. In my anecdotal experience bi men tend to treat the male attraction part of themselves as a fetish not an integral part of their sexuality and that drastically changes the way the approach and interact with other men (for the worse imo) I just can't think of any advice that would be helpful to you from my perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 07:26 PM
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So I pick from the bounty that's brought to me, weren't you the one saying I should be a queen?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 07:10 PM
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Men and women will generally put up with words and mistakes up to a point, but if your actions don't come through you're going to be tossed out. Idk if it's possible to point to one gender putting up with it more than the other, but I would guess men do simply because I think they have a stronger urge to fix things and see them through to the end
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 07:05 PM
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I do think there's a biological pressure for it too for that reason, I'm not knowledgeable enough on it to argue the point though 😋
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:45 PM
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I see what you're saying but try this metaphor. I could go next door and fight my neighbor for their jug of milk, but I choose to walk down to the store and pay for it there Sure it's further away and costs more, but I'm avoiding conflict that way. Am I a coward?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:25 PM
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You are reading "painful" as in "devastating" that's not how I'm using it Having to wait too long in a boring line is painful, I'll take care of my business online to avoid it, but if that's not an option I'll do it. The stakes are that low when you can be sure of getting approached
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:17 PM
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Women approach men they are attracted to because they have something to lose if they do nothing. A man not being approached doesn't mean he is ugly or lazy necessarily, just that women aren't attracted enough to risk being rejected first. Maybe it is because he is ugly but that's not guaranteed either
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:15 PM
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If rejection wasn't painful there wouldn't be so many men complaining about it. It sucks, idk why you'd pretend it doesn't. I'm also not going for the weird pep talk? Thanks though
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:11 PM
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I really don't care
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 06:00 PM
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If that's true then that's exactly the kind of risk reward shift I'm talking about. It becomes worth the risk of rejection because otherwise we don't get relationships. That's what changes behavior and it's why I think the trend is headed in that direction
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 05:47 PM
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Let me find reasons to agree with you. I'll agree that if there is a guy a woman is already completely into and wants to be with that it would be cowardice not to let him know that. But I think those are the cases women are already approaching in. I'll also agree that if a woman is consistently getting approached by men that aren't her type (especially if she's complaining about it) then yeah, not changing your tactics and not approaching men you actually like would be a failure on her part. I t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 05:39 PM
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Another factor, for example my current relationship. I didn't approach in person. I made a dating profile. I added some guys some guys added me, I whittled down my options. Way less stressful than cold approaching. I was in a happy relationship within three months.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 05:23 PM
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That's not a reward, even if I am not attracted to a guy being approached is still validating and flattering
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 05:21 PM
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What higher rewards? We still get dates with men we want without approaching
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 05:07 PM
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It's not cowardice. Women still get what we want in a less painful way. What you're asking for is for women to take on more pain with no more benefit and with all of these confounding pressures not to do it. The 'nature' i'm talking about is the human nature of self interest, not something base like lust. You're going to have to make it beneficial for women to approach first, not just whine
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 05:05 PM
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Even in a more liberated society like we have it is still high reward, low risk just to wait to be approached. Your arguments just aren't strong enough to turn the tide against that kind of self-interest. I do think the trend is heading in that direction and that it's a good thing. Women approaching are a result of a safe and balanced society.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:58 PM
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What does it eerily predict?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:35 PM
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I don't know a guy that is single and happy about it. The only exception being guys coming out of a relationship and not ready for another. I do think the dating field would do a lot of balancing and healing if a relationship with a man was harder to obtain. I just don't think men at large are built that way
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:31 PM
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Women approaching has been hugely stigmatized most of our history. Women are happier and more patient being single Women are more likely to get offers before they are ready to date either by age or recent singleness A guy will probably say yes just for the chance of getting laid even if he doesn't like the woman approaching him and we know this Fear of rejection absolutely sucks. We can avoid that simply by waiting to be approached first, sorry but it's simple human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:25 PM
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The "science" of personality in which 8 billion people are reduced to 5 😂 great have fun
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:05 PM
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I'm happy 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 04:03 PM
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Why are there more than four factors?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 02:41 AM
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Personality tests are unhelpful. There are more than four factors that make up a person
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 12:44 AM
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No, I wouldn't have. I would have laughed that they bothered to do surveys and then throw out the data. You can tell this by the empirical fact that that's exactly what I did There is a place for surveys as a method to gather data, especially for social issues, which is already difficult to quantify
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:56 PM
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Are you okay dude?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:53 PM
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There's tons of different suggestions, both general and specific to reach those ends. Looking better is absolutely one of the most common suggestions, It's an obvious and low effort way to increase desirability
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:50 PM
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To have sex with women, you must become desirable to women. There you go
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:45 PM
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I see it done all the time, you must just not like the answers Edit, oh I see that you changed your comment after I responded
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:43 PM
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Someone I can pour all my love and support into. Someone I can rely on. Someone to share profound pleasure and fun with. Someone to share the experience of life with long-term, in all its ups and downs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:40 PM
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Except it wasn't implied at all. Critiquing something isn't endorsing the opposite. That's a fallacy of the inverse. Surveys are a poor source of empirical data but it's something worth discussing if done well. Collecting surveys and then throwing out the data and claiming whatever you want is worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 11:11 PM
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The fact that you extrapolated something I didn't actually say and then insult me for it is peak asshat
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 10:37 PM
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Why wouldn't you bother finding out what red pill ideology is before asking a question that requires basic understanding? That's some impressive laziness
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 08:52 PM
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Everyone has a chance of getting cheated on
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 07:44 PM
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It may not be a factor to you, and that's fine, that's your taste, your suggestions for making every other physical appearance trait maximized is the same gym advice every man with a flaw has. You also do not get to dictate what insecurities other people have. My first point was that there is no fan club for small dicks. It's at best treated as "not a deal-breaker" which is not a flattering bar. There is no body positivity movement equivalent. That really sucks because everyone deserves to feel …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 05:08 PM
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You missed my point that it's NOT comparable, radical surgical alterations isn't even necessary because if desperation is that strong there are already men that prefer small breasts. Also dick doesn't have to be central to sex for the woman, and the ways that it is central for the man can still be indulged in regardless of size.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 04:30 PM
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A small dicked man can go to the gym and be physically attractive in other ways, he can learn to communicate and use other methods to make his partner feel amazing. But he can't grow his dick just like I can't grow my tits.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 04:22 PM
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That's your taste, which I'm not interested in. It's much more important to reconcile an insecurity within yourself than it is to manage it with external validation. External validation is a bucket with a hole in it, it will never be full enough to like yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 04:16 PM
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No, my base requirements were met when we first got together. The rest has been growing and discovering the man that I've fallen for in new and profound ways. I'm not looking for a fictional character, I was looking for a man
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 04:08 PM
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You are correct. I have a small bust size and it's an insecurity, but I don't have to look hard to find a subset of men who love that as a physical feature. There is no comparative club for dick size unless it's a humiliation or cucking kink, never solely for its own merits I don't believe in an empathy gap though. I've seen women cater to men's needs and emotions at a vastly higher rate than the reverse
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:30 PM
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"Here's what the survey says and we are going to ignore that and wildly inflate the numbers because cheaters are liars" Real great science there 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:22 PM
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Isn't...that....obvious?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:18 PM
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All of these are a high bar. What millennial or Gen z has time for all that??
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 02:56 PM
2

Spit out the Kool aid
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 02:50 PM
1

I would have been ok with it, but I will mention that my current bf told me he refrained from masturbating to my dating profile until after we had intercourse for the first time. I was touched, it had never occurred to me that it could be an expression of respect to refrain and keep things in reality not fantasy. It still isn't a red flag imo but it is a green flag in the other direction
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 02:46 PM
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I'm going to skip rewriting this in my own words because I would regurgitate 85% of everything you said here. I will add that I was lucky enough to snag a guy that far exceeded my desired traits, especially in physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 12:20 AM
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"Hive mind" makes me roll my eyes. People react in mostly predictable ways that benefit themselves. Men and women alike. Especially since the Internet let's the most popular ways of thinking gain popularity among all groups
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 03:49 AM
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There are no groups of women. Just like there are no groups of men. Just a whole bunch of individuals making good or bad decisions based on circumstances and outcomes. On a broad scale, it's helpful to understand some trends and statistics if you want to tailor your odds to get what you want, But in the end you will always be dealing with an individual, not a metaphorical group that all think the same way
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 10:07 PM
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I agree, it's an attack that reinforces a hurtful stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:49 PM
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Out of these I have only heard "small dick energy" used in real life and I didn't object to it. It was directed towards a guy who was bragging about getting a girl to sleep with him by pretending to be more invested than he really was. It was another guy who said it. I wasn't about to turn social justice warrior against a guy for putting another guy down that deserved some shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:23 PM
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Him wanting to keep his finances private to make sure he isn't loved for his money 👍 Him thinking that a financial commitment to send an automatic monthly gift is an acceptable way to show that he values her personally? 👎and a double 👎👎 for the hypocrisy after 'not wanting to be loved for his money' Still wouldn't be a deal breaker for me though
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:10 PM
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I cant really agree, I have a lot of empathy for the horrendous state of online dating rn and how demoralizing and frustrating it is for men. It's not a turn off to me if a guy can talk about how hard it has been for him and what he wishes he could find, so long as he doesn't have a full blown victims complex over it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:26 PM
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Mine didn't, I generally always liked my men to be on the beefier rather than fit side. I show a lot of love through cooking and it's nice to have a partner that really enjoys eating. My gym time is me time and I don't feel the need to share it. Besides being physically capable of going on mild to moderate adventures with me and hopefully not on track to an early death by heart attack my bar is very achieavable
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:18 PM
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I don't need your permission for that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:13 PM
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So you admit you are a misandrist, that was nice of you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 07:12 PM
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I was not raised this way, this feels a lot like OP's fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:54 PM
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Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:44 PM
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The majority of men do not disrespect boundaries and force themselves on people. You clearly are just a misandrist troll though
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:43 PM
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A strong gut feeling can sometimes be a matter of life and death
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:14 AM
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It sounds like you want to date a well trained lobotomy victim
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 06:08 AM
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Playing dumb isn't cute
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:54 AM
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I think that pretending like more men than not act like they are entitled to sex is misandrist and honestly stupid. In fact I think its actively harmful to push that narrative. Simply wanting to have sex (what the actual majority of men behave like) is NOT something to whine about and get a victim complex over
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 05:05 AM
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I don't think men are actually acting like that. Men wanting to have sex is not a crime, and I don't understand why OP or you see it as them wanting to have sex and you're the obstacle vs them wanting to have sex with you. Ofc there are bastards out there who actually have an entitlement complex, which is why I said it sounds like OP is venting about a specific interaction
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:29 PM
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Op didn't give an acceptable response to frustration, she just assumed what other people were thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:05 PM
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I plead the 5th. Height and good looks were not on my list, but I ended up with a very tall handsome man. I still wouldn't say these reasons are why I'm with him. He absolutely dotes on me, matches and even exceeds my libido, is always striving to be a better man, and has supported me unconditionally with difficult personal struggles. Still, I think it would be hypocritical if I pretended it's not a fact he meets my requirements but is also a 10/10
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 10:51 PM
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☝️ now times that by a million and that's the trend of American men. And I don't blame you for not caring about a system that hasn't brought you satisfaction or happiness
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:10 PM
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When my bf told me he had explored gay sex I found it hot, adventurous, and open minded. Maybe a bit taboo thanks to a religious upbringing I left behind. I did my best to express that to him but he clearly carries shame over it, and I don't want to hurt him by focusing on it so it hasn't come back up. I'd like to hear more about it someday when he's ready though
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 03:48 PM
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Sounds like you're venting about a specific interaction. I don't take discussions here that personally. It's true that in online dating most women are scoring above their rating, and I get that that's frustrating for guys who want a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:46 AM
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And there are plenty of married short guys too, but an insecurity is going to do what an insecurity does 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:16 PM
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Someone with tact and social understanding who has never gotten a date or felt loved will probably seek out some answers and guidance as to why
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:10 PM
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No, not if they want a relationship. My only advice would be focusing on your other strengths, height is only one factor of attraction. I'm small chested and that's always been a deep insecurity of mine so I get it that that advice can feel empty and unhelpful, but there really isn't any other way that I can see to move forward with a physical attribute you can't change
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:46 PM
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"MEN ONLY WANT POWER AND SEX"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 06:53 PM
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Do you not have men in your life that you care about at all? There are real bastards out there who like to hurt others for fun, and there are egomaniacs that think the world revolves around them To paint them with the same brush that includes the men I know who are kind, funny, loving, witty, and admirable is deeply offensive. You don't deserve to be taken seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 06:51 PM
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I can reject your thesis as misandrist garbage though 🤷
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 06:33 PM
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I didn't read it at all. The title was offensive enough to work with
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 06:25 PM
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Both can be true. Men would not be monsters for being attracted to a relationship in which they get to take a leadership and provider role. It's crazy to me men are demonized for being attracted to that relationship while women get a pass for being sugar babies because the deal is too good to pass up
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 06:24 PM
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I'm not giving the body of text the chance after that title. Holy misandry! Men don't "only want" what you think makes them monsters and they "deserve" basic respect and opportunity and happiness like anyone else geeeeeze
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 06:03 PM
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I agree. It is foolish to pretend women and children were not seen as a husbands/fathers property and responsibility. It was always seen as a huge moral failing of you mistreated them but we can't pretend that it wasn't the norm just because someone sees it as icky through our modern lense.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:44 PM
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I called her unstable for other reasons and life choices. Like the tendency to leave jobs without a plan over trivial reasons. Not because she hasn't dated in a long time
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:23 PM
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Brutal. Because they are men they don't deserve help outside themselves. That's just cold. I would say someone commiting suicide cares a great deal about their mental health, as they are taking an extreme measure to get relief from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:18 PM
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You are correct. The man was someone she trusted but wasn't in a relationship with or 'chose'
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:16 PM
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She didn't choose him
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:14 PM
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If you were to follow it as if it's a law and not a guideline then you're probably going to have a bad time, but someone doing that already lacks the tact and social understanding to do well anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:14 PM
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Because you made it awkward. Now they are acting awkwardly
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 05:02 AM
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The only friend I have who has done this is pretty unstable and unwell, largely due to trauma caused by a man
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:54 AM
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It's incredibly self centered and clueless to think that men, who are committing suicide and miserable at unprecedented rates, don't care about their or others mental health. If talk therapy isn't appealing to them and unhelpful to them then it's a bad treatment for men and we should be trying to find better ways for them, not blaming them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:49 AM
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It sounds like you agree with red pill. Alpha fux. Women want to sleep with hot confident men. Beta bux. Women want to build families with stable financially successful men. Women become less sexually desirable for men as they age (more quickly than men do at least) None of this is exaggerated or twisted, just reductive, as many theories are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:33 AM
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That's the path you're on Asking someone else to live that way when they are happy with "trust but verify" is silly
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 11:05 PM
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I laughed when I read the OP about how obvious it was, and then I saw how many people are disagreeing with the conclusion. Good post OP, apparently it needed to be said
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 10:31 PM
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No one's more attractive than my partner 🥰
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:41 PM
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You can never 100% trust that you will never be cheated on. Life doesn't work that way
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:20 PM
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Suspecting something, and fearing it as a possibility are two different things. I go on a date with a guy and I know the chances are low that he's going to kidnap me, but I take precautions to make sure if that is his plan it can't happen. I'm not calling that guy a kidnapping rapist by making sure we meet in public and my friends know where I am. You can trust and love your partner, and still be afraid that something happened
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:11 PM
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I dont get the connection between what I said and your responses. You know people can lie, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:02 PM
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Men don't have the benefit of pregnancy to know know that the child is theirs. He is going to dedicate his life to this family and the technology exists. I wouldn't be able to blame him for double-checking. Being asked for a paternity test would hurt, but it's not an unreasonable sacrifice to make for a man that you love and want to be with forever
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:58 PM
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There is an unstated point here that women feel capable of being single mothers and so traits that make a good father are now much less important. It's a subtle difference but I think it is key.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:54 PM
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You really have to learn the difference between an individual level and a societal level, A lot of people were dying in car accidents, you could either call the drivers bad, or you can invent seat belts that work within the framework of the automobile industry. You're creating a discourse about accidents and blame if you were actually interested in a conversation about seat belts, I would be a lot more interested in continuing this conversation
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:46 PM
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You are again misunderstanding, again. Though rejections are painful and can be traumatizing if especially cruel, what I'm talking about is the insidious and consuming trauma of being unwanted, unfulfilled, and hopeless for extended periods of time, and maybe your entire life. And yes, I'm including the lack of intercourse in that trauma. You are also putting a lot of words into my mouth that I did not say about what women are blamed for or need to do. You want to argue points that I'm not takin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:31 PM
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I appreciate the good faith :) Unfortunately I don't have an easy good solution. I think reversing the perception of men's sexualities as perverse and dirty as the most damaging aspect of current trends might be enough of a shift to set things in the right direction. I think taking women "off the pedestal" a bit so to speak couldn't hurt. Such as more equitable rulings in family courts and divorce proceedings. These aren't simple or quick, but it's a lot easier to break something than to build i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:21 PM
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It absolutely is harmful to society, men are a part of society and harm to them at this scale is harm to society. You can deal with your trauma but at least you are hopefully not being blamed for being traumatized in the first place, right? So maybe be a part of helping men facing this harm rather then invalidating and blaming for it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 08:10 PM
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You are misunderstanding. A 'community of friends' is exactly where men are being targeted and radicalized. You can look down on men and demonize them for the biological differences that make their sexual frustrations a vulnerability but it would be foolish pretend that that's not A huge factor of men's self-worth and happiness No individual woman is required to marry a guy just so that there are less lonely men, I'll give you that. But you also have to acknowledge that women withdrawing from me…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 07:58 PM
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Exactly, there is a lot more to The progress of humanity than the DNA that gets passed on
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 07:47 PM
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Choosing a partner is always going to be a trade off of ideals and meeting them where they are, and looking within yourself and truthfully asking if this is someone you can be with in sickness and in health, in prosperity and misfortune. If you are just taking what comes your way, then yeah, you're in for a bad time. If your priorities are flawed from the beginning, you're going to have a bad time. If you'll only take a man who fits an unreasonable ideal, you're going to have a bad time. Meeknes…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 07:24 PM
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Most women don't disagree with redpill tenets like being tall and having money is attractive. They disagree with misogynistic conclusions that redpill men come up with individually. They will also automatically disregard redpill over the trope that redpill men hate women unreservedly, without bothering to examine the tenets. Can't really blame them for that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 05:55 PM
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"more selective" yes. Humans and most animals work that way, women's selectivity strengthens the species. But the trend going on now? No. Hordes of sexually frustrated and disenfranchised men with no families and no investment in their communities is NOT a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 05:48 PM
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