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Where is your evidence that attractive men treat women worse than unattractive men because that hasn’t been my experience at all. If anything, my experience has shown the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 03:31 PM
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Women aren’t even fully physically developed until their early to mid twenties. A 21 year old is still a girl in a lot of ways. I didn’t fully develop my hips and butt until around 23. I get more attention from men now at 28 than I did in my late teens and early 20s. So yes, men who exclusively like women under 25 are creeps who want underdeveloped women with girl-like features.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 02:57 PM
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Men have already stopped chasing/approaching women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 02:54 PM
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Don’t encourage paid rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 02:51 PM
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No, just fuck ugly women. Stop chasing women out of your league.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 02:49 PM
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Most men are having sex. Most women around the world are having orgasmless sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 02:47 PM
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Unattractive men are just as selfish in bed as good looking men, probably more so because they’re hateful and bitter towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 02:45 PM
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Cause men are selfish in bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 02:42 PM
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And the difference is that gay men actually love men and talk about sex in terms of what they want to do to pleasure the man they’re with. With straight men, it’s more about what they want to do to a woman for their own pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 02:41 PM
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I never receive compliments from men. It’s a myth that women receive compliments all the time. Most people who compliment me are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 02:38 PM
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Please stop with this “women receive compliment all the time” nonsense. No, women don’t receive compliments from men all the time. Men don’t compliment me. As for having access to sex, it’s not a privilege to have easy access to sex where the guy is just going to jackhammer you, cum, and then get off. It would only be a privilege if all guys were offering enthusiastic oral sex to completion. Most women can’t cum easily from penetration.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 02:36 PM
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That’s fair then. You just made it sound like you want a woman to be quiet and not express her opinion about things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 12:43 PM
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I don’t know what you mean by this. Body shaming of women is more pervasive and systemic than body shaming of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 12:42 PM
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“Beautiful” in their minds is 21, hourglass figure (which only 8% of women have), ass and tits, blonde.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 03:04 AM
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“Not be much of a talker” That’s a weird thing to want. It’s like you want a sex robot without a personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 03:02 AM
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Because those are the men who actually approach women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 03:01 AM
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So you agree that men think women peak at 18-22? Then you agree that men have high standards and don’t just accept what they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 03:40 PM
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Women uplift men more than the other way around. Women always reassure men that penis size doesn’t matter. I don’t see men doing the same thing for the vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 02:00 AM
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Men make women feel insecure. All of women’s insecurities are caused by men. They don’t uplift women. Women also try a lot harder to improve our appearance than men do. Men aren’t the ones shaving their genitals every couple of days and enduring bad rashes just to look attractive for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 01:56 AM
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And yet you probably judge the way the vagina looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 01:52 AM
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Women are body shamed all the time for pretty much everything, including their vaginas.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 01:52 AM
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As long as men talk about the vagina in disgusting ways (it smells, it looks gross), as long as they make fun of labia, as long as they use “cunt” as an insult - I don’t see any problem with women making fun of the penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 01:51 AM
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A woman would find it hard to be aroused if she wasn’t attracted to you. Maybe some women are different, but that’s my experience. Sometimes I think it might be fun to just get sexual favours from random men I’m not attracted to but realistically I wouldn’t enjoy it if I wasn’t at least somewhat attracted to the guy and also sex for me is about giving as well. You get what you signed up for as a submissive. Women assume that you get pleasure just from servicing them so they probably don’t view i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 12:39 PM
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You sound like an extremely selfish person who doesn’t give a shit about whether their partner orgasms or not. I feel bad for whoever has the misfortune of sleeping with you. My point still stands - men who are actually sexually attracted to women value the female orgasm and will do anything to get a woman off. Men who don’t have low testosterone and don’t like women’s bodies and vaginas. And you’re wrong again about gay men. The reason gay men have more orgasms is because they suck each other o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 12:23 PM
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No, it doesn’t back up what you said because as I already explained, women are giving oral sex to men, so we are responsible for their pleasure too. Read what I wrote again. Whether they do it to completion or not is irrelevant. Foreplay is extremely important because arousal helps you to orgasm. The fact that women give more oral sex despite needing oral sex more than men because most of us can’t orgasm from penetration is a testament to how sexually selfish most straight men are. When you are …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 12:21 PM
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Your claim isn’t backed up by the data. Women are more likely to perform oral sex on men than men are to perform oral sex on women. If men actually touched the clitoris, they could make a woman orgasm. It’s not that hard. Men are just selfish. Just eat pussy or if you don’t want to do that with a strange woman, there are other forms of clitoral stimulation. Stop being selfish. If you were actually sexually attracted to women and loved women’s bodies, you’d try everything you could to get them of…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 04:16 PM
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Of course we’re aroused by the male body. Just the other day I was at a show where the hot guy performers would take their shirts off and the women in the audience would go wild. We’re aroused by hot men. Would you be aroused by a woman you weren’t attracted to? Women are no different. Guys have high physical standards too. Women have to be young, have tits and/or ass etc to be considered attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 01:54 PM
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We are aroused by male bodies. I was at a show just the other day where the hot guy performers would take their shirts off and the women in the crowd went wild. Of course we’re aroused by hot men. Are you aroused by all women? No. You wouldn’t be aroused by a woman you didn’t find attractive. It’s the same for women. Men have high physical standards too. Women must be young, have tits and/or ass for men to consider them sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 01:49 PM
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If you’re a sub then why are you complaining about women being sexually selfish? Isn’t that what a “sub” would want? I’m confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 01:46 PM
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Why does heterosexual porn revolve around the male cumming and show more blowjobs than cunnilingus if that was the case? Why is there an orgasm gap? Why are men less likely to perform oral sex than women are?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 01:41 PM
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Uh, men’s sexuality is the same if not more so. Why do you think porn revolves around the male orgasm and women pleasuring men? Because men also get off on seeing women wanting to give pleasure to men. Why does porn show more oral on men than oral on women? Why do men send dick pics? Because they want women to worship their dicks. Men are sexually selfish and dick obsessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 01:38 PM
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Because male sexuality comes off as rapey a lot of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 02:19 PM
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You ever wonder why a lot of women don’t enjoy sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 11:51 AM
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So basically you’re admitting that men have high standards. Because most women aren’t 20, hourglasses shaped with big tits and ass and perfect skin 😂 And men, if you’re demanding women shave their pussies and have porn style small labias, you also have high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 11:48 AM
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Women were asked if they would accept a casual encounter as long as the man was safe and the sex would be pleasurable and a lot of women said they would. Again with the “it’s easier to make men orgasm” myth. It’s not. I can do it in under a minute by myself. Women literally have an orgasm button which is the clitoris. Men just don’t focus on the clitoris enough. But also a lot of women aren’t going to feel safe or comfortable enough to get aroused in a casual sex encounter. It’s not an issue of …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 11:31 AM
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I find it to be shallow. If all you have to go by is looks, you end up only swiping on the most conventionally attractive guys. Maybe I’m weird but for me sexual attraction is something that develops over time as I get to know the guy. I tend to get “infatuated” with certain men. I find I’m not attracted to most men and only “click” with some men for reasons I can’t explain. I’m picky, but not necessarily shallow (I don’t care about money or if the guy is below six foot). Personality as well as …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 11:24 AM
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Because men judge us if we don’t invest a lot of time in our looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 11:16 AM
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Women want to be sexually lusted after too but too many men only want one sided sex where only their pleasure matters to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 11:13 AM
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Men are privileged because men are guaranteed to have an orgasm almost every time they have casual sex. Men also don’t have as many body image issues as women and have to put less effort into their appearance (men don’t have to shave). It’s not a privilege that we have more people wanting to use us as a fuck hole without any regard for our pleasure. Does the man love to go down? Men who love to go down on women and spend enough time doing it to make a woman cum are a rarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 11:12 AM
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Women are the ones who actually give head 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 11:08 AM
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Intercourse is not the best way to make a woman orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 11:08 AM
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It has nothing to do with biology. It’s the fact that the sex most women have (PIV) is not enough to make women orgasm. The clitoris is not in the vagina. It’s already been shown that women whose partners actually touch their clits orgasm regularly. The oral sex statistics are depressing too. Over 60% of men regularly receive oral sex compared to 44% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 11:06 AM
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Women scream because they’re faking to soothe the man’s ego. Look up statistics on how many women fake orgasms. Sex is not better for women. Most women can’t orgasm from PIV and it’s hard to find a man that actually enjoys foreplay and oral and isn’t in a hurry to just stick it in.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 11:04 AM
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Nope. The chances are high that not a single one of those 30 men do enough foreplay to make a woman orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 11:02 AM
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A lot of women can’t have multiple orgasms. Women can have a refractory period as well. Sex is just better for men as women are much less likely to orgasm than men are because men don’t prioritise sexual activities that focus on the clitoris.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 11:00 AM
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Lesbians also love to eat pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 10:58 AM
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No, it’s because gay men have a higher likelihood of orgasming from a casual encounter. There’s already studies out there that show that women are more likely to accept a casual sex offer if the sex is going to be safe and pleasurable.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 10:57 AM
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That’s because gay men care about each other’s orgasms and want to see both get off. As a gay man, you have a higher chance of having an orgasm from casual sex than a straight woman does. Gay men like sucking dick more than straight men like eating pussy too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 10:56 AM
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Also, if men are allowed to say that some vaginas are ugly then I’m allowed to prefer the look of circumcised penises 😀 No stinky cheese dicks for me.
/r/MensRights26/02/25 09:53 PM
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Men are the ones who push circumcision on their sons. You know why? Because their happy with their circumcisions 😂
/r/MensRights26/02/25 09:51 PM
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It’s not cruel in the long term. There are proven health benefits and as far as I know, there’s little evidence that it has a significant impact on sexual function. Circumcised men report enjoying sex just as much as uncut men. There are so many cultures that practice it and to just dismiss them as barbaric and call for it to be banned is quite offensive tbh. I’m fine with different cultural practices as long as they cause little harm and as far as I know, circumcision has not been proven to be …
/r/MensRights26/02/25 09:46 PM
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Young girls are getting surgery because men shame a perfectly normal, common body feature on women and associate it with promiscuity. Men are to blame for this. On the other hand, women are not to blame for circumcision. Usually it’s the fathers who push to get their sons circumcised because they’re happy with their own circumcision. And there’s little evidence that circumcision is harmful in the long term. It actually has some health benefits. The foreskin is particularly vulnerable to germs an…
/r/MensRights26/02/25 09:38 PM
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Women care far less about the appearance of penises than men do about the appearance of vulvas. All penises are funny looking. We just accept that. It’s more about what they can do and what they’re attached to than what they look like.
/r/MensRights26/02/25 09:34 PM
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And men are disgusted by over 50% of women’s genitals 😂 How much worse can modern men get? Guys, this is why birth rates are collapsing.
/r/MensRights26/02/25 09:30 PM
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Step 1: Men constantly body shaming women Step 2: Female insecurity, less sex for men and more incels Men ☕️ ThE SmArT gEnDeR
/r/MensRights26/02/25 09:08 PM
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There are men in this very thread shaming vaginas, saying they look ugly, they look like axe wounds etc. The people making shit up are men saying that it’s common for women to make fun of penises when it’s actually the other way around. Men constantly make fun of the look and smell of vaginas.
/r/MensRights26/02/25 09:06 PM
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Except men say that all the time, more than women say penises don’t look good. Objectively vulvas do look better as there is less going on. How can a simple slit with some skin flaps be uglier than the ball sack 😂 Just saying. You men need to get over yourselves.
/r/MensRights26/02/25 09:02 PM
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I’m not seeing all this alleged shaming you claim is coming from women. I see most genital shaming coming from men. I’ve never not once seen a single woman online make fun of uncut penises. Women have preferences, but we don’t put men down for being uncut like men shame women for having larger labia. Men have spread false rumours about women with larger labia being promiscuous even though labia size has nothing to do with how much sex you’ve had. There is no equivalent shaming of uncut penises. …
/r/MensRights26/02/25 08:58 PM
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Bro, the birth rate is declining because of low T men like you. Women don’t want to reproduce with repulsive misogynists who are disgusted by the female body.
/r/EverydayMisandry26/02/25 08:50 PM
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How is it shitty and racist to simply state my experience of there being a lot of foreign men who make creepy marriage proposals and a lot of them happen to be Indian?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 08:39 PM
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You literally said that most women are being approached through Facebook and Instagram and that’s why we don’t need dating apps 😂 And you said that women have inboxes full of men asking them out. You’re the one making exaggerated claims. All I said was that was not my experience and I’ve never heard of that being the experience for most women either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 08:37 PM
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Dude, you literally have a scrotum - the most aesthetically unappealing human feature there is. The ugliest vagina still looks better than dick and balls. Y’all are jealous that you can’t make money off of dick pics like women can with vag pics. No one wants to see dick and balls. Cope. And how are you woman haters gonna complain about women body shaming men while calling vaginas axe wounds? Women only body shame men in response to men body shaming us. Men have been shaming the vulva for far lon…
/r/MensRights26/02/25 08:21 PM
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Most vulvas still look better than most dick and balls 🤷‍♀️ And most women have protruding labia. So if you’re using that as the criteria for what is an ugly vulva, then you’re basically saying most women have ugly vulvas. I’m sorry your gf has to deal with an MRA woman hater for a boyfriend who hates women’s bodies.
/r/MensRights26/02/25 08:17 PM
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It’s common for men to make fun of and call vulvas ugly, stinky, etc. What planet do you people live on? Some men seem to be totally disgusted by vaginas. Insults for vaginas: Axe wound Hatchet wound Gash Roast beef And many more Where are all the insults for penises 🤔 The worst insult in the English languages is literally the name for women’s genitals - cunt.
/r/MensRights26/02/25 08:14 PM
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So you’re calling most women’s genitals ugly? Because most women have protruding labia. Pretty rich coming from someone that has a scrotum.
/r/MensRights26/02/25 08:09 PM
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There’s little evidence that circumcision has negative health affects for men. FGM on the other hand is a barbaric, dangerous practice that kills little girls. It’s actually quite offensive to certain ethnic groups and religions to say that circumcision is wrong. Jews and Muslims have been doing it for a very long time. And you know teenage girls are literally getting surgeries down there because of the stigma around labia that is caused by men’s body shaming. And yes men who only like “innies” …
/r/MensRights26/02/25 08:01 PM
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I’m just going to say that if men want women to show more interest in sex with them, they need to lower their standards and stop making fun of women who don’t meet porn star beauty ideals. Both men and women are dishonest about their preferences. Men here are dishonest about their dishonesty about their preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 02:39 PM
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Really? Why do men give less oral sex than women then if they care so much? https://www.splinter.com/least-surprising-study-ever-finds-that-women-are-giving-1793855568 PIV is like the least reliable way to give a woman an orgasm. It’s 2025 and I’m here to tell you that the clitoris is not located in the vagina.
/r/EverydayMisandry26/02/25 10:57 AM
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Cool. No one’s stopping men from having toys. The reason there isn’t as many toys for men is a) they don’t need toys as much as women do so there’s less demand for them, and b) they don’t want toys as much as women do so there’s less demand for them. It’s supply and demand.
/r/EverydayMisandry26/02/25 10:54 AM
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What’s the difference between a “cis man” and a man who identifies as a woman but has not transitioned?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 10:51 AM
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The difference is that no one is saying those non trans identified hypothetical men who could rape you should be allowed in women’s spaces, but they are saying a man who simply identifies as a woman should be allowed in women’s spaces. Stop defending this shit: https://reduxx.info/exclusive-balding-man-wearing-rubber-breasts-and-penis-sling-allowed-to-use-womens-changing-room-canadian-mother-is-told-by-edmonton-recreation-center/ It’s not just about sexual assault risk, it’s about women and girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 08:25 AM
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A lot of women are saying that men approach women less these days. It’s not just me. I’m not unattractive, so I should be getting approached according to people here claiming women have so many guys lining up to date them. The average age of virginity has risen for both sexes among the younger generations. As for men on dating apps, a lot of men just go on there to find casual partners whereas women are looking for something more long term. Women think dating apps are full of fuckboys and creeps…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 08:03 AM
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Men don’t need sex toys like women do because of the orgasm gap and because it’s harder for women to orgasm. What part of that very simple explanation don’t you understand? Toys aren’t putting men at a disadvantage because men already receive most of the pleasure due to the orgasm gap. As a woman, you are already naturally disadvantaged in the bedroom compared to men. Toys help equalise that. Why would men need sex toys? And do most men even want sex toys? I’m guessing not.
/r/EverydayMisandry26/02/25 07:51 AM
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I’m on dating apps specifically because men never approach in real life, so your claim that women don’t need dating apps because they get approached in real life all the time is false.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 07:48 AM
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Where is your evidence that women constantly get approached on Facebook and Instagram? Because I don’t know any woman who met a partner through Facebook or Instagram. Having random men messaging you and calling you beautiful is not a serious approach. A serious approach would be a guy asking you out on a date. And again, the men that send these messages are the bottom of the barrel. And again, it doesn’t happen that often. Like I said, I’m attractive, and I don’t get random men approaching me on…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 07:40 AM
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Except they don’t. I come here and I always see comments and posts about how men have low standards and will take any woman. I also think women are genuinely less shallow than men. That doesn’t mean we don’t have preferences, of course we do, but I’ve also never heard of a woman rejecting a man because his balls hang too low or some bs like that like I’ve heard of men rejecting women for having some random insignificant feature like large nipples or large labia.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 07:28 AM
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Not at all. Most women aren’t getting seriously approached on Facebook and Instagram. And if they are, it’s usually by the worst kind of men (the kind who send random dick pics). Having some random Indian guy messaging you asking you to marry them is not the privilege you think it is. And in real life, most women don’t get approached nearly as often as you think they do. I’m attractive and I rarely get approached. Maybe it’s my country, but that’s my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 07:23 AM
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Men are not honest here about having high standards, which they do. They claim that women have impossibly high standards while men are fine with ordinary women. Sorry, but if you’re demanding women shave their pussies, whining about flat butts and flat boobs, large nipples, large labias, etc. you don’t have low standards. I know because I’ve tested this out. Men only ever show me any attention when they can see how big my boobs are. Flat chested women are constantly overlooked by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 06:40 AM
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Toys were created because of the orgasm gap in the bedroom and because some women find it hard to orgasm. Women don’t receive the most pleasure in sex, men do. Het sex already revolves around men’s pleasure.
/r/EverydayMisandry26/02/25 05:55 AM
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I didn’t say it wasn’t. But men here are claiming men don’t have high standards when it comes to beauty while women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:49 AM
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Go ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:48 AM
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most women don’t get tons of DMs on their social media unless they’re well known or putting slutty pictures up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:45 AM
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That’s not my experience at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:34 PM
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I’ve always been the one to message guys first.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:33 PM
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That’s not a privilege because sex sucks for women compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:31 PM
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“Women not having orgasms during casual sex is almost entirely due to women’s own issues” No, it’s because the men sleeping with them don’t care about their orgasm and/or think a couple of minutes of jackhammering is what makes women cum. It’s 2025 and men apparently still don’t realise that the clitoris is not located in the vagina. Also, men are less likely to give oral sex than women are. Men are just more selfish in bed. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:22 PM
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Your female friend is probably very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:17 PM
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Ain’t this the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:10 PM
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I don’t give a shit about money but the guy has to be hot. That’s all I care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:55 PM
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Most people consider it to be the most offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:42 PM
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Those women are lying. Obviously women do makeup to make themselves attractive to men. Men do care, which is why they make fun of women’s natural makeup-less skin. “Pizza face” is an insult I’ve heard men use for women with “bad” skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:40 PM
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Reddit is not real life. In real life, most women don’t think fat women are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:37 PM
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That’s the most commonly used worst insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:37 PM
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Like I said, just because men hate other men even more than they hate women doesn’t mean men like women. Men are naturally intimidated and threatened by strange men because strange men are dangerous. The way I see men talking about women and treating women leads me to believe that men don’t like women that much. That’s just how I see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:32 PM
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What? I said “English language”. Should be pretty obvious I’m white. What is your point even? And there’s nothing wrong with being white. I’m proud to be white. White people civilised the world. Fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:28 PM
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Who calls Lizzo beautiful? No woman I know. Only other fat woke women call Lizzo beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:11 PM
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So are women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:09 PM
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Men don’t like women. That’s pretty obvious based on the way men treat us and talk about us. The worst insult to be called in the English language is the word for female genitals. That’s what men think of women. Just because men hate other men more than they hate women, doesn’t mean men like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:08 PM
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So do men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:04 PM
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I’m on dating apps and set my preference to men and women and it’s true that women are better looking. Women also age better. I’ve seen a lot of mid to late 20s guys on there who look 10 to 20 years older. Probably because they spend more time in the sun. Women just take care of themselves more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:03 PM
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Of course men are annoyed about it. They think women shouldn’t have height preferences while making fun of women who don’t meet their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:00 PM
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Yes, this! Too many men expect women to be interested in them while doing nothing to improve their appearance. They expect women to shave their downstairs and have perfect skin (while not wearing too much makeup) and then complain about women having high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:58 PM
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Men overrate their attractiveness while women underrate their attractiveness. And men do have high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:22 AM
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6 and 7 is not average, it’s above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:20 AM
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I’ve only been approached or asked out a couple of times in my entire life. I have to make all the effort on dating apps, write the first message etc. And I’m attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:33 AM
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I’ve only been approach or asked out a few times in my entire life. And I’m attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:31 AM
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There’s a difference between dating those women and settling for less attractive women but still chasing 8s and 9s. OP’s point is that actual 6s and 7s are rated as average by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:29 AM
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This is true but they keep lying about it here and claiming that men have low standards. Men these days want women to look like porn stars.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:25 AM
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Also, men get more pleasure from sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 02:24 PM
1

Men don’t chase women anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 02:24 PM
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Bro I’m literally a virgin. Loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 02:09 PM
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Some women have no problem approaching men who are more attractive than them because they’re desperate, which means either you are quite attractive or you’re having sex with average to below average women. Considering the average woman is more attractive than the average men, men need to approach more if they want to be more successful with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:46 PM
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Unless you’re a very attractive guy, you’re just lowering your chances of finding a partner. Unless you don’t want a woman, in which case why are you even here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:37 PM
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First of all, I want to say that I’m definitely not “very hot” and not one of the women I was talking about (like 9/10 Stacey), but I’m at least conventionally attractive judging by the looks of some of the men who have shown interest in me. I can’t speak for what it’s like for women who are very above average, but in my experience the number of men who have approached or overtly showed interest in me has been very low for most of my life. I don’t really know what that means. Maybe I’m uglier th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:25 PM
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Yes, exactly this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:15 PM
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That’s how it’s always been. Man initiates, woman responds.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:13 PM
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Well actually a lot of the really hot women aren’t being chased by guys because most guys are too intimidated to approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:10 PM
1

Bull crap. First guy I had a sexual experience with was some rando at a club.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:08 PM
1

Why don’t men just approach women. Women want to be approached.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:04 PM
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Honestly it sounds like you have a pretty low sex drive or are not neurotypical. A lot of non neurotypical people are loners and prefer their own company. But you aren’t the norm. Most men want to have sex with and date women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:51 PM
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There’s nothing wrong with men being brought up to pursue women either. It worked in the old days. Women are naturally shier than men are. So much of the “incel” problem could be resolved if men spent less time playing video games and more time socialising and flirting with women. And the thing is, women are taught (especially by boys and men) that their value lies in their physical attractiveness and that if women aren’t physically attractive, they’re worthless. When men approach women, it vali…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:45 PM
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You might’ve been somewhat physically attracted to them but did not view them as girlfriend material. Men will fuck less attractive women but won’t won’t want to date them. A man will pursue a woman he wants to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:38 PM
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You hooked up with them because you’re a man and men will fuck anything, including animals. That doesn’t mean they were your ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:33 PM
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And you probably weren’t attracted to those women or those women had a lower SMV than you. I still stand by my belief that if a man is attracted to a woman, he will be put the effort in to flirt with or approach her. It doesn’t have to be a one-sides thing necessarily, but men should at least give some indication that they are interested and yet a lot of them don’t beyond just having a conversation with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:29 PM
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“You can have a low self-esteem and still have a big ego” No you can’t. “I’m single because I like freedom” I’m single too and I also like freedom. But are you sleeping with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:21 PM
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There are rules if you want to find attractive women to date and sleep with. Most women want to be approached. If you’re not approaching women and you’re an average looking guy, the chances of scoring an attractive woman are low. If you’re an attractive guy, you can probably get away with not approaching. The power is in the hands of the person who has higher SMV, whether that’s a man or a woman but generally women have higher SMV compared to the average man. And men have helped set it up this w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:19 PM
1

Where is the data that men have lower standards than women? Men being more likely to fuck any woman they see doesn’t mean they don’t have high standards. You can fuck someone you’re not attracted to. I’ve heard many stories from women who’ve slept with men only to find out later that the men have complained about some feature of their body behind their backs and even sometimes to their faces. You expect women to put up with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 02:51 PM
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I saw one survey that also showed that women are more likely to talk to less attractive men than men are likely to talk to less attractive women. Just because men swipe on every single woman they see on dating apps and would fuck any woman, doesn’t mean they’re attracted to those women. Men will fuck animals ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 02:48 PM
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But objectively, men have more physical preferences than women do. I listed them before. What preferences besides height and penis size and maybe broad shoulders and not bald do women have?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 02:45 PM
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Women here acknowledge that they have preferences. I already acknowledged women have height preferences in that we don’t like men being too short. Men seem to be the ones denying it and acting like their love for women is oh so pure and not shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 02:43 PM
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I assumed “laundry list of requirements” was referring to physical attributes like height and penis size because men seem to complain about that a lot on here. What other requirements are you talking about? 🤔 Because I don’t care about anything else besides looks and personality. I realise that’s not most women but most women also don’t care as much about money as men think we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 02:39 PM
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They do show that. Surveys show that most men don’t like women’s natural pubic hair and prefer shaved or trimmed. Surveys show that most men prefer small labia and about half find large labia a turnoff. I happen to have large labia so that means 1 in 2 men will be turned off by my genitals. And it goes without saying that men prefer big boobs to small ones, especially flat chests. These are all physical standards that men have. I have not experienced all this unwanted attention while covered up …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 02:32 PM
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You would complain if your wife or girlfriend had a bush. Stop pretending that men aren’t picky about women’s looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 02:26 PM
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Most women don’t care about penis size. We don’t want micro penises but that’s about it. We don’t want guys with massive dicks, just normal sized dicks. Same for height. We don’t want really short guys, but average height guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 02:24 PM
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You could say the same thing about men and boob size, butt size, hair, labia size etc. Most surveys show men have high physical standards. Women put a lot more effort into our appearance because of men’s demands. I already told you my personal anecdote of men not paying attention to me if I’m covered up and they can’t see that I have big boobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 02:22 PM
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Women also don’t demand men be tall or have big penises. Preference and demand is the same thing to me. At the end of the day, it’s still a high standard to prefer small labias and shaved pussies. And men often make fun of women who don’t meet their preferences. No woman would feel comfortable with a man who had preferences that she didn’t match up with. If men found women more attractive than vice versa, men wouldn’t be complaining about trivial things like labias, pubic hair, flat chest etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 02:18 PM
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Most women will assume you aren’t interested in them then. It’s not about pride. Most women don’t assume all men are attracted to them like men think. A lot of women are actually very insecure about their sexual desirability. Why do you expect women to throw away their pride?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 02:10 PM
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“The reason you don’t like approaching is because you know it gives the person the upper hand, and also because you’re a coward afraid of putting yourself out there” Pot calling the kettle black. You’re a coward for not approaching women. And that’s not the reason. The reason is because I don’t assume all men are attracted to me and that if a man is attracted to me, he’ll make the effort to approach first.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 02:08 PM
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The rules are women are the gatekeepers of sex and reproduction. That’s why it has historically been men approaching women. “Women would prefer to have their egos stroked” Most women have lower self-esteems than men. You live life as though all women are a bunch of stuck up bitches because you’re clueless about women. That’s why you’re single. Most women don’t assume all men are attracted to us. That’s why I don’t approach. I go by the assumption that if a man is attracted to me, he’ll approach …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 02:04 PM
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Women gaining rights doesn’t mean the sexual dynamics have changed. I don’t make the rules, I’m just saying how it is, not how it should be. Most women would prefer to be approached and this has been true since forever. Like I said, women’s worth is heavily tied to their sexual desirability and fertility. I know men get rejected, but that shouldn’t stop you from approaching women. You think male animals stop trying to find mates when they get rejected? Sexual rejection is part of life for the ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 01:11 PM
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Yea, men are supposed to be the pursuers and that’s how it has always been. You saying it’s not true doesn’t make it not true. In the 50s, men were asking women out and that’s why incels weren’t a thing. This is the attitude that creates inceldom. You actually are an animal and the principles that hold true in the animal kingdom also hold true in the human world. The females are the gatekeepers of reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 01:05 PM
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You would have a point if women weren’t the ones who have leverage in the dating market. Men are supposed to be the pursuers. That’s how it’s always been and that’s how it is in the animal kingdom. The males are supposed to woo the females. Unlike men, women’s self worth mainly comes from their sexual desirability as that signals fertility. A woman is not going to feel sexually desirable if she has to approach the man. The reason there’s so many sexless men these days is because men have stopped…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 12:53 PM
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Men like you will say you don’t mind flat women but never pay attention to or even glance at a woman who is flat. I’ve experimented with this because I have decent sized tits and I get considerably more attention and stares from men when I wear clothing that accentuates them, but when I wear clothing that flattens them, men barely notice me. Stop the cap.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 12:47 PM
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Men demand women have/are: Not fat (reasonable) Have boobs, ass and curves (not reasonable because many women are flat and straight figured) Shave their pussies Not have “roast beef” labia (even though most women have prominent labia) Not be too tall Have nice skin without wearing makeup Be young (for many men that’s under 25-30) Stop lying that most men don’t have physical preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 12:43 PM
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Men have higher physical standards than women. If you’re demanding women have shaved pussies and small labia, you don’t have low standards. And these are pretty common preferences among men. My own personal experience tells me that men are not attracted to average women. I have a fairly average face but an above average body and men only ever show interest when they can see my body and how big my boobs are. Men don’t like flat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 12:38 PM
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Average men don’t desire and love ordinary women. Can we stop pretending like men don’t have high physical standards? Just because men will fuck an average woman, doesn’t mean he’s very attracted to her. Men are just more likely to settle. Men make fun of women when they are/have: A little bit chubby A flat ass Flat tits Acne (or what I’ve heard some men refer to as “pizza face”) Large labias Big areolas Too tall Unshaved and many men even expect women to shave their genitals Big feet And there’…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 12:35 PM
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It shouldn’t be an unreasonable ask for men to treat average women like they are beautiful either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 12:27 PM
2

This is bad advice. Women want to be asked out and approached. I’m still single at 28 because no guy has ever asked me out and it’s not because I’m unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 12:22 PM
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I expect the man to let me know he’s interested by approaching me first. I’m sick of learning later by friends that “oh he liked you” when the guy never made an effort to ask me out. Women aren’t mind readers. I don’t know when a guy is attracted to me, so I will always just assume he’s not unless he’s indicated in some way that he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 12:19 PM
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Not true. You think women have much higher self-esteems than they actually have. Men can be really picky too. My whole life I’ve rarely been approached or complimented by men. It just doesn’t happen like men online say it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 10:05 AM
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we can’t get good sex whenever we want though
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:41 AM
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The reality is sex is just not worth it with most men. I hear so many women say how they never had an orgasm with a man until they were in their late 20s and 30s and that most of their male partners in their early 20s were selfish. It makes me feel better about being a late bloomer. Would you rather be having bad, degrading sex or no sex at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:40 AM
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The same applies to women. Don’t just settle for a woman you’re not attracted to. You’re acting like the man being attracted to the woman is a given.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:36 AM
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I can count on one hand the amount of times I’ve been approached romantically or asked out by a guy. So how does that make me a selector if I’m the one who has to approach and woo guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:55 PM
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Why are you assuming that she’s a selector? You have no idea about this woman’s life or how much interest she gets from men. Also it’s not easy for women to get good sex (as in sex that makes us orgasm).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 01:14 PM
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If men want access to sex, they should learn to be good at it. If your gf or wife isn’t having sex with you, it’s probably your fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 01:11 PM
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I don’t really agree with conscription (with some exceptions) but soldiers are legitimate targets because they’re military combatants.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:43 AM
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That’s because there are physical differences between men and women (not to mention pregnancy and menstruation) that limit women from being able to fight. Women have always helped the war effort though. They just weren’t put in the front lines because people recognised how insane that would be. Men need women to birth the next generation of humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:53 AM
0

This doesn’t include wars that happened in the past like WW2 which killed the most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:48 AM
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That’s a broad statement. Which wars are you talking about here? In wars like WW2 where men are conscripted to fight, most civilians who died were not men. Men conscripted to fight are not considered civilians, so it’s not possible that most civilians who die are men considering all the men who are sent to fight and all the women who are left home.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:42 AM
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Shy women have trouble dating as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 02:49 PM
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They are in some ways. It’s not just soldiers who die, it’s civilian women too and some of the worst atrocities in history (like rape, torture and mutilation) have been committed against civilian women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 02:47 PM
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