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I'll just say one last thing, they certainly don't care about you, but they do care about creating standards and an environment that extracts as much time, money and labour from you before you die. If you want to get the last word in go ahead, this is going nowhere anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 04:18 PM
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Ah I see you're just contrarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 04:09 PM
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Govt keeps the signals on and the opposing armies at bay. I mean, this is a Libertarian take
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:54 PM
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In an ideal world the state would be as small as possible and we'd maximise personal freedoms, but governments actively restrict freedoms to cement their rule and corporations go to great lengths to mold how we experience the world to fit their needs, digitally through the likes of social media algorithms and physically, like the way supermarkets, malls and so on are laid out specifically to subtly manipulate people into spending more money, the way being bombarded with advertisements has become…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:45 PM
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If you don't believe the government and corporations prioritise stability and profits ahead of your happiness then I want whatever you're smoking.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:20 PM
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Whatever helps you avoid just admitting your logic doesn't stand up 🤝
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:14 PM
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Well look man, the sooner people realise the only thing the government and businesses care about is maintaining stability and making money, the sooner people stop thinking life as it happens to them is just a standard we've naturally progessed to, having an attitude of things are the way they are because they work or because it's what people want is collectively shooting ourselves in the foot. you don't need to be Ted Kacynski to see that we're approaching dystopia, the US presidential race is b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:03 PM
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Social media is probably the biggest example of the insiduous nature of the control that governments and corporations have over people. It's progression is entirely unnatural, curated to extract as much attention from people as possible, even at the expense of their interpersonal relationships. Unless you want to argue that the "standard" you allude to is corporate greed, then there is a logical bridge from your argument to saying that Red Pill isn't mainstream because they want men mollified, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:50 PM
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You claimed that I said most men can't teach boys anything. Most men can and do teach their sons something, but most aren't mentors and most parents focus on teaching discipline and excerting control, more than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:30 PM
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Not once did I claim Red Pill was legit, I questioned your reasoning that if something worked it would become the standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:26 PM
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Regardless, it still doesn't follow that if something works it would become the standard. States and businesses apply great pressure on populations, through propaganda and advertising, to make the workforce as profitable as possible. We are in a system not built to make us happy, but to maintain stability and ensure productivity. Everything within the system is open to, and rewards, exploitation for profit; personal relationships are not exempt from that and the internet allows control to become…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:03 PM
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I believe most men aren't good mentors to their sons or anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:51 PM
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I don't think that entirely follows, would you say socialising doesn't work because people are becoming more isolated? Plenty of things that make people happy have been corrupted and weaponised by people looking to make money.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:47 PM
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And if it's so ridiculous to expect women to teach boys anything, why aren't more men teaching younger ages or doing the majority of childcare for their sons? Good father's do mentor their sons, but women often choose to have have kids with men that aren't cut out for fatherhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 09:06 AM
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It's something people feel is true, have you ever seen any evidence it is though? https://www.nature.com/articles/s41443-022-00596-y
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:40 AM
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Porn induced erectile dysfunction is a myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:15 AM
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Men shaming deadbeats isn't going to stop women fucking them, women don't even listen when you tell them the guy they're dating is abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:23 PM
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No one's disputing how you feel, you started this thread to ask about men's feelings and seem to be using it to validate your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:00 PM
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I find a man is with me coz I have a good job only? Heartbreaking. There's no "only" in there for me, it's "at all", my job being part of why a woman desires me is not flattering at all, my employer values me for the work I do, a woman valuing it as well means nothing to me, it is not a compliment, it is not something I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:43 PM
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Well this furthers the point, because if a suppodedly high status woman is "fuckzoning" a guy it's confirmation of his sexual desirability. What I don't understand however is how the gender who puts so much time and effort into appearing sexually desirable can't understand that men want to feel the same and can be flattered by the attention. I don't care if a woman thinks I match her or I'm above her in status, it's completely irrelevant to me, unlike women, men don't measure their own status by…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:40 PM
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I don't agree with that, being desired for social status is probably the least flattering thing you can be desired for, next to money, and they're both intertwined.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:35 PM
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Is being valued for your social status meant to be more flattering than being sexually desirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:24 PM
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There are women who are open about compromising on sexual attraction for relationships and marriage, so it's easy to get the impression that when a woman wants a relationship with you, it's partly due to utility and less about sexual desire, but when a woman only wants to sleep with you it is a validation of your sexual desirability. Men have no problem being valued for our utility, it's what we're conditioned for, we get that from our family and employers, what women can make us feel, that no o…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:22 PM
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You're the one trying to convince them, what are you hoping to achieve by telling me about what Red Pillers say?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:41 PM
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The halo effect is a studied phenomenon, refusing to acknowledge it is wilful ignorance and weakens your position.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:51 PM
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What a bizarre reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:48 PM
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Strawmen getting massacred in these comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:53 AM
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No one claims men have intuition or sniff out low value women though, it's women who are claimed to have clairvoyance and exceptional communication skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:49 AM
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He was also a good friend of mine, there was never any overtones or hint that anything would happen between us, he knew I'd have dinner with her at their house ocassionally because she'd tell him, sometimes he'd call her while I was there and the three of us would chat on loudspeaker, sometimes I'd go for food with the two of them, sometimes it'd be other friends she cooked for, I can't emphasise enough, there was never anything sexual between us, we were close friends. My point is that what can…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:41 AM
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Discussions abour social skills often seem to avoid talking about the halo effect; good looking people are given more social grace, the threshold for what is considered poor social skills is lower for them. Looks are intertwined with everything, I guarantee some of these men would have no issues dating if they were "6-6-6" or had the right "canthal tilt". I'm not a black piller, I certainly don't believe it's hopeless for all but a tiny minority of men, but it's just disingenuous to completely c…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:42 AM
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Confidence without ability is, by definition, arrogance. "Fake it til you make it" is telling people to be arrogant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:38 AM
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It's never that simple, plenty of women will do those things, or some mixture of those things, without interest in you and plenty others will be interested and do none of those things. I knew a woman that used to invite me round for dinner when her boyfriend was out of town, just us two, we'd joke, laugh, make eye contact, hug, dance together when we were on nights out with friends, and we were never more than friends, neither of us wanted to be more than friends, then on the other side of the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:32 AM
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I was going to say something similar, what baffles me about women in dating is how reluctant they are to take control, despite having the power in dating. It's like even the marriage minded women OP speaks about want dating and escalation of the relationship to be something that happens to them, a story written by a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:56 AM
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I'm not disputing you can't do fine, I'm saying you get more by being a crook and a liar and I mean more in every single aspect of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:34 PM
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I'm doing well having grown up in poverty, everything I have and am has been my own doing, earned through honest means and hard work, but I could have had a lot more (money, relationships, children, sex, you name it) if I'd lied and cheated on my way up and plenty of my peers have been handed more in life than I'll ever have. We don't live in a meritocracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:30 PM
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I've got some bad news for you, liars, crooks and cheats get the most out of the world and from people 😢
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:13 PM
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At the very least you have to skirt around the truth, women want a story not a business transaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 09:47 AM
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Is food a human, right? Is shelter a human, right? Is water? Should we force people to open their homes to homeless people? Should we force people to give their food to starving people? We should be treating food, water and shelter as basic human rights. The world has enough resources to build skyscrapers, mansions, mega malls, luxury resorts, you name it, greed and excess run rampant and so many people live a life of decadence. There are enough resources to feed and house humanity, there's just…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 06:11 PM
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So you’re also justifying being lenient to deadbeat dads. What do women expect when they're happy having unprotected sex with deadbeats? Dating is set up how women want it, men are incentivised by women to try to seduce them, to play games and to skirt around plausible deniability, women don't want stable men and clear two way communication, they select for uncertainty, excitement and danger, they put themselves in these situations with these men, no one else forced them to have sex with deadbea…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 09:27 AM
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When it comes to dating, the only context men will care about other men is when it comes to who women choose, which men here do in fact complain about, a lot. Ultimately though, women control access to sex and being in that position means that, in people's minds, women bear the brunt of the blame as well for the outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 09:09 AM
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No one likes deadbeat men and she's the one that opened her legs for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 08:55 AM
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The OP is asking about promiscuity specifically, obviously different people are going to have different thresholds for what "indiscriminate" is when it comes to sex, but "she's had sex before" covers everything from a woman whose husband died the day after their wedding, having had sex once, to a woman who fucks guys blindfolded at an orgy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:00 PM
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Not massively, but they'd probably need to do a little bit of rebranding, unless they want to just date fellow promiscuous men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 05:38 PM
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"she's had sex before". You're being disingenuous, there's a difference between having had sex and being promiscuous, the word itself has it's roots in the Latin word for "indiscriminate". It's not about having had or not had sex, it's how you view, and your attitude toward, sex and intimacy, things integral to compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 05:34 PM
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I didn't realise Plato posted on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 12:55 PM
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Men in the west are historically less religious, less puritanical, less violent, less misogynistic, less racist, more accepting and open minded, have more support for women's rights, have more of an interest in self care and fashion, they are even taller and have bigger dicks. I'm more interested to see what women think a modern man is, I think that'd be more telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:43 PM
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Neurotypical 100%. If you can't play women at their own mental game and dance around plausible deniability, you aren't getting anywhere in dating, unless maybe with autistic women, but even they prefer dating neurotypical men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 07:56 AM
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What does ocassionally religious mean? Does she have the odd crisis of faith here and there?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 10:56 AM
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Tell him to lose weight if he needs to, force himself into more social situations and play the numbers game.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 09:38 AM
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They have faith in a higher power and eternal bliss after death to fill the hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 09:02 AM
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Even with friends, one party (the man) needs to approach the idea of dating and escalate, outside of chances of success, what's the difference functionally?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 08:56 AM
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She doesn’t have a right to know what I’m doing in the privacy of my own home or infringe on my right to privacy in any other way just because her kid is there with me. Do you think this is a common scenario? My sister's ex-husband's current partner doesn't let him have pictures of the step-kids up in the house. I've heard more stories about jealous step mother's, especially once they have their own kids with the man, who resent the step children more than I've heard anything else. I’m also not …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 08:14 AM
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I suppose it has been a while since one of these posts full of unactionable advice and feel good platitudes came up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 09:02 PM
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Yes, this definitely reads like a post made from a place of mental peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 04:23 PM
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I suppose it does raise the question why they get offended at men who would consider a woman having been raped to be a reason not to date her, especially if it's worse than spending 20 years locked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:19 PM
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I have a friend that's basically had porn star like experiences and would probably give porn stars a run for their money in terms of partner numbers, he does not struggle to pull women and he'll sleep with anything from hot college chicks to single mothers in their 40s, but he also has no qualms seeing sex workers and tells people he has.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 03:04 PM
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None of these are positive things, they certainly don't work as an argument for "SuperMarriage".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 10:01 AM
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This would just hamper a man's future relationships. A lot of women barely tolerate step children and how they tie another woman to their man, how would they take never legally being able to marry that man on top?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 09:41 AM
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To some people yes. If it doesn't matter to you, that's understandable. You were the one that said this is to show society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:43 AM
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You will be able to demonstrate to society that you and your partner have a higher level of commitment than regular marriage. And that matters in this day and age? If you are looking for a monetary incentive, then SuperMarriage is not for you What you have proposed is an outright monetary disinsentive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:29 AM
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What is in this for men? The average household income in the US is around $75000, that 0.04% would be worth $30 a year. At a cost of 25% of salary it would take multiple lifetimes, regardless of the salary, for the tax break to cover the cost of the the ring alone, let alone the ceremony.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 07:10 AM
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If they wanted those guys they'd do everything they can to get them, what they actually want is to be someone who is asked out by those guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 06:48 AM
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Also I dont think dating is easier for women. Its easier to get casual sex, not a fulfilling relationship Women get what they want, otherwise they'd be asking guys out, making moves, pursuing and escalating relationships with guys they like who haven't made a move on them. If you're not willing to put the work in for something you want, you never really wanted it in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:24 PM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:49 AM
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If we take it women are sleeping with less men, can we then conclude that women are filtering out the higher IQ, wealthier and non-abusive men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:14 AM
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I doubt women are going to raise their standards in 10-20 years, they'll still be dating guys who don't wash themselves, guys who don't have jobs, guys who abuse them. Where does this idea that women have high standards come from? Lower IQ and lower socioeconomic class correlate with more sexual partners for men, women are less satisfied with their sex life, experience more abuse and generally the most dangerous person, statistically, to a woman is a man she chose. How can anyone genuinely belie…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:52 AM
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The vast majority of men date and have sex, so women must be giving free sex to unattractive men in 1 bedroom appartments.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 12:39 AM
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I'm sure he'll see this and realise he should be dating you instead of women in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:04 PM
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Pretty much all women do it, the furthest they'll go is indirectly inviting an escalation, it's rare for them to be the one's to kiss first or do any sort of leading towards sex, they at best indirectly invite a man to take the lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:39 PM
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It's definitely not higher than ever, women are selling it cheap and lowering their RMV in the process. In the past you'd be expected to marry someone to have access to sex, now women are ending up getting used by guys that can't even wipe their ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 11:27 AM
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You want someone you get along with, like their personality, maybe have something in common, right? That’s all women want too. Women want men to escalate the relationship, otherwise it remains a friendship at most.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 07:28 AM
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You don't need to say specific things, you need to find a specific person. Going at it with that attitude creates incels, men very much need to curate themselves and accept they have to mold themselves to fit their assigned gender role. Women can very much like a guy and it'll go nowhere if he doesn't say and do the right things to escalate the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 07:24 AM
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Maybe the problem is how women approach dating, if people don't want to commit to you, your personality is lacking and if you market yourself on sex appeal, you're going to attract men interested in sex. I genuinely don't understand how women can complain about getting used for sex then admit they spend an hour focusing on improving sex appeal. You sit back and wait for men to approach you, you use the prospect of sex as bait and you don't ask out guys you like and feel compatible with, what do …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 07:23 AM
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maybe you genuinely weren’t picking up on some clear signals. I know it could have been a bit of he’s too intimidating to ask outright so I’ll give him every signal I got, and he didn’t respond to them so I guess he isn’t interested? Maybe it was obvious to everyone else but you. Maybe your own self esteem kept you from seeing their desire? I'm not arrogant enough to claim I couldn't possibly have missed any signs, but even with friends I now know who liked me, there's nothing I can look back on…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 03:58 PM
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Maybe you’re intimidating? I actually have a friend that's like 6ft 5 and built like a powerlifter, but he's basically a puppy personality wise and has no sense of how imposing he is, so maybe I am intimidating and just can't see it. It seems absurd to think I didn't date in my teens and twenties because women were scared or never felt good enough for me though, especially with the ones who had no issues having one night stands and so on, it just doesn't compute.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 08:31 AM
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That's what I'm saying, even when they are interested in a guy before he makes moves on them, they don't ask him out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 02:16 AM
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I doubt it, I'm 5ft 10, pretty much always been overweight, I did have a bit of a muscular dad bod in my early 20s when I played sport and went to the gym, but I'm like a shaved caveman, best you could say is I look masculine. Only compliments I ever got are that I'm fun and smart, oh and that I had a nice jacket one time. My looks definitely aren't turning heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 01:52 AM
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I’m telling you - and you know what a low self esteem does to you. I promise they thought you were out of their league. You don’t have to be a Chad. Just her looks match. We weren't even looksmatched, they were more attractive than me. And I was the one who gave them my number, asked to hang out and escalated the relationship. This isn't something I've experienced, I've made friends with women and shared numbers, mutually asked each other to hang out, but never have I experienced a woman escalat…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 01:43 AM
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Because sub 7 women won’t go for men in her own league. They date down. I don’t believe in hypergamy because I know I thought I was a solid 2. So those are the men I went for. I know lots of women who will only pursue if she thinks she has a chance. Women aren’t men. We don’t all overinflate our own egos. Which is why the crushes stayed secret. I'd get that if I was some "chad", but there was no reason for any of these women to think they didn't have a chance. But when you sit here and say “all …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 01:07 AM
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Most women aren't 7+, so then shouldn't most men have experienced these sub-7 women pursuing them? I know I haven't, outside of drunk women in bars and clubs trying to hook up, and I've found out quite a few women I've been friends with over the years had secret crushes on me, why didn't they pursue? Why do so many guys say they've never been pursued and lament always having to be the pursuer? I hate this narrative, because the vast majority of guys need to learn that they have to be the active …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 12:51 AM
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I don't appreciate the word play you're doing here. Promiscuity is not simply "sex with multiple people"; the etymology of the word promiscuous comes from the latin word for indiscriminate and yes, I do not believe that an aversion to promiscuity is socially conditioned. Promiscuity correlates with mental health and substance abuse problems, even animals are somewhat discriminate with their choice of mate. Being sexually discriminate is what is natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 12:42 AM
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All the sub-7s are out there asking men out are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 12:15 AM
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Just because you think women are more passive with dating doesn’t really mean shit. Let's face it, most women aren't asking guys out, they take what comes to them. How anyone can deny women are more passive in dating is beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 12:05 AM
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That's not really what the idea of "the ick" entails; it's visceral, it cannot be rationalised. You might as well ask why someone would feal fear or joy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:58 PM
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I haven't said society is going to hell, I don't think there's anything wrong with casual sex either, it's just not for me and I would rather be with someone who feels the same way. The point is I've come to believe there are few women who feel the same way and just about every woman I've met that I thought might be different, has turned out not to be. I'm not reading this stuff online, I've seen it over the course of my life. I’m probably old enough to be your mom, and this narrative existed wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:38 AM
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I don't really know what pill I'd describe myself as, I think what I want is rare since, in my own real world experience, it seems most women are open to casual if a guy has the right combination of looks and charm. I've also seen too many of my friends date, and eventually get burned, by guys that were obviously not good for them from the get go, so I don't think I can describe myself as Blue Pilled at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 11:14 AM
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Do you think every woman wants to have casual sex and those who don't only abstain to protect their reputation? I have no interest in casual sex, I find women who don't have an interest in it more attractive because I feel like we have similar views on intimacy. If she's open to casual, then it doesn't matter if she engages or abstains, the act itself is not the problem, it's the mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 10:25 AM
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You're starting to sound like a boomer. Once you move out of your parents home and become an adult More people are living at home later than ever and housing is becoming a luxury, workers are more productive than ever, yet wages have been squeezed. There very much are systemic issues at play here, it's willful ignorance if you don't see them. I'm saying this as someone who grew up dirt poor, moved out at 18 and now owns a house, I don't think I could do it today.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 10:20 AM
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The world has changed and even in my mid 30s I feel like what my childhood and teen years were is ancient history compared to my nieces and nephews. I don't think looking at what 40 year olds are doing now is a good indication of what people born today will be doing in 40 years. We're in uncharted territory with the internet and social media, it's not all about the here and now, people can talk today about where the world is heading.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 10:08 AM
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Women are the sexual selectors, choosing selfish guys that don't care about your pleasure is kinda on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 08:56 AM
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I don't really know what women expect though, the way most women date, especially casually, makes it easier for selfish men who don't care how she feels. Caring, attentive men aren't getting selected for casual sex, lets be real. The guys I know that have had the most partners were the one's most obsessed with having sex for themselves, very rarely did they talk about the women they were sleeping with as anything more than someone they had sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 08:47 AM
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Because they want to I'd imagine, though thinking about it, a woman avoiding casual sex because of concern for her SMV has the same sort of ick factor as a woman engaging in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 08:05 AM
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You know, one thing I don't understand is how women can talk about icks and accept even the absurd ones like the way a guy sneezes or something, but guys getting the ick from promiscuous women has to be insecurity and not just visceral.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 08:34 PM
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Would I be a homophobe for not caring how gay men or lesbians act in dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 03:07 PM
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Probably because very few, if any, men get on a platform and say they don't like nice girls or that they have a height preference, in fact I feel like I've seen more guys saying they like taller women than I have one's calling it a deal breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 09:28 AM
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They reward the men that stand in front of the grocery store and hit on everything with two legs. They reward the men that tell them the same bullshit they want to hear and have told 100 girls before. They reward men who are "on their level" and have options. I have seen it time and time again. One thing I used to think about was how women say they want a guy that strongly and genuinely desires them, but their choices often bely that, choosing instead men more focused on abstract sex, than her s…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 08:45 AM
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Their raison d'etre is sleeping with women, why would they care what men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 08:25 AM
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I think the bigger irony here is that he's doing exactly what this post is calling out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 08:01 AM
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It never suggests taking college courses, studying STEM, learning foreign languages, going to museums and absorbing culture, etc. Well to be fair to them, the Red Pill's focus is casual sex, none of that is going to get you any and looking at the stats, studying STEM is counterproductive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 07:54 AM
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I was chatting to a Taiwanese woman for a bit, she owned a house back in Taiwan and was studying for a better career, so I don't think money was really a focus, she just liked white guys and had sworn off dating Asian men because of their attitude toward women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 07:32 AM
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Is the average western woman bettering herself when she has easy sex? One thing I always notice about PPD women is how much the Women are Wonderful effect is implicit in everything they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 07:24 AM
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I don't think any guy who is genuinely interested in a woman would have an issue waiting, if she was someone who had always waited, but it's safer to assume every woman has had casual sex, then assume she is making you wait through a lack of sexual desire. I know I've been guilty of that thought process, I really liked a woman I met in my early/mid 20s, I knew through her friends she slept around quite a bit and she also admitted she'd never been in a relationship, but always seemed kind of rese…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 07:14 PM
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You've not got an answer to the rest of my comment huh
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 10:21 PM
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In what way does what you quoted imply "Man demands verbal confirmation that women possess a sex drive"? Genuinely intrigued to see you break it down and explain how you came to that conclusion, because at this point your comments are barely internally consistent let alone the wider Sharp_Engineering379 meta. I'm struggling to see what you're getting at, unless you are trying to say that in your world, the only men depicted in art, literature, the media and what you see with your very own eyes, …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 08:14 PM
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I'm starting to think you're just imagining up a conversation and using my comments to reply to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:01 PM
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There are tens to hundreds of other women who might be Not if he isn't Elvis, one of The Beatles or a quarterback I'm afraid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:32 PM
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What is my message? That your post claiming that “men had no way to know that women care about physical attraction” is straight up horseshit. The whole idea of using quotation marks is that what's between them is meant to be something I've said. You're all over the place, at first I said there are things you can do for your physical appearance, but that it's more complicated than that, to which you replied saying that women's attraction is more complicated than that, now you're saying to look at…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:30 PM
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Maybe I just have better friendships than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:27 PM
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What you listed is destructive feedback, knowing how to give constructive feedback is a skill in and of itself and one essential to holding together teams and maintaining deep friendships, her inability to maintain a friendship seems to be what inspired OPs rant as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:20 PM
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Then most women need to learn how to give constructive feedback 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 05:14 PM
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I didn't realise we were talking about high school, how old are you? I can't say I've noticed people being particularly cliquey since I grew up, but what is your message here, that in order for a woman to be attracted to a man he has to be Elvis, one of the Beatles or a quarterback? He didn’t ask I'm now convinced you don't actually read the posts and comments you reply to. To quote the OP: "He was really adamant that what about him made him “friend material, not bf material”." Then the conclusi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:49 PM
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No, I'm saying someone who claimed to care for me, who shared a "patient ear", "emotional support" and who doesn't want to hurt me, could at least give constructive feedback when asked for it, rather than going on a rant online about men avoiding genuine friendships with women, while admitting she avoided doing something a genuine friend would do, preferring to maintain a façade of what their friendship was.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 04:29 PM
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This isn’t a secret women conceal, it’s universally known that women have crushes and express interest in attractive men more often than not. Until social media most men wouldn't have been told anything about who women crush on, women certainly don't tell men who they like, and even on social media the bulk of what you see from women is either celebrity crushes, men over 6 ft tall, their "icks" or they talk about the things that make a man a good friend (kind, gentle, good listener, whatever), n…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:04 PM
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Body dysmorphia is a thing, I'd think a woman of all people would understand that, given the unrealistic standards for women portrayed throughout media and how much it affects women's mental health. If you pull your head out of the sand, you'd realise that the same thing is being directed at men, body transformations only possible through performance enhancing drug use are being normalised, countless celebrities, actors and influencers lie about this stuff as well and present themselves as havin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:41 PM
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Do you believe that her feedback would make him somehow sexually attractive to her specifically? No, but it sounds like she is the only woman who has cared about him, counting even his ex-wife. Men seem to have a different concept of attraction than women. If a man sees a woman who is conventionally attractive or his type, he’s attracted. You clearly didn't even bother reading my whole comment. If men understood how much behavior, beliefs, and attitude factor in to attraction for women, they’d u…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 01:34 PM
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Controllable things go into physical attraction like body composition, clothes, hair style, facial hair, but non physical things can make someone unattractive, an example is I have a friend who is very physically attractive, but I have no sexual attraction to her because she is the younger sister of a close friend and I see her more like a little sister. I also had friends when I was younger who were attracted to me, but over time it faded and became platonic because I never made a move. It's ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 12:30 PM
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if a guy I liked told me shit like he would jump off a cliff, than share a kiss with me. I mean there are multiple ways to frame things, but the fact still remains if women can't tell men why they're unattractive, they're going to look for answers that aren't sugarcoated and that's what the likes of Red Pill and online incels claim to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 09:46 AM
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I feel like if you actually had empathy for this guy you'd want him to understand why women aren't attracted to him and give him a chance to improve that (unless he's physically deformed in a way that can't be fixed). It's disingenuous to frame it like you are doing it for him, when you are doing it to avoid how you would feel being honest with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 09:32 AM
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You said yourself you didn't elaborate? Most women I think believe in treating others the way they like to be treated. It doesn't do anyone any favours to avoid the truth, when the truth is what is holding them back in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 09:26 AM
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I've been good friends with a few women over the years, some of them I later found out had crushes on me, one of those I even lived with for a bit and can't really remember ever getting "empathy, words of affirmation and validation" from any of them, apart from being told I'm fun and having my jacket complimented. I didnt elaborate because that would have shattered his self-esteem into smithereens. I care for this dude. I dont want to hurt him out of malice. This is why men end up Red Pilled, wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 09:21 AM
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I believe the feeling of disgust at promiscuous women can't really be rationalised anymore than the idea of the "spark" can be, it's visceral; I do think if you are a relationship minded man there's also an element of feeling like intimacy is less special when you're the 10th, 20th, 30th, or whatever, in line, but I also think that's only part of the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:51 AM
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Think big picture, the reason the man assumes she's hitting on him is because women are known to indirectly communicate interest, so men need to weigh up when a woman might be interested and take a leap. If women were not known for being ambiguous with their interest, then men wouldn't have to assume anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 04:49 PM
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I don't expect it. The men just do it. And either way men who do this, but have ulterior motives are literally giving me a free dinner and drinks, even tho I never wanted sex with them. Sounds kinda trashy ngl, you're telling on yourself here, you've essentially admitted that you do use men you're not interested in for free food. Meanwhile if women ever decide they wanna have sex we can just get it for free 🤣🤣🤣 we don't need to, or gotta choose to jump thru hoops by paying for sex on a fake date…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:59 AM
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doesn’t exactly have the high ground to take As far as I'm aware he hasn't taken the high ground, I don't think he's said anything about it and she even described him as having been "so sweet - a southern gentleman, all that stuff", it seems like he just wasn't sure about committing to her and she decided to go and emotionally manipulate him to commit. Isn’t dread game when you try to make your long term partner jealous by flirting with other people? Which is definitely not remotely the same and…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:30 AM
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What I think is sad, is that you expect to be wined and dined for simply gracing a man with your presence. It is such an arrogant, misandrist view to hold, to believe your time is somehow worth more than his and he has to compensate you by forking up cash.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:15 AM
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I guess the ones selling themselves never got the memo.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 04:10 AM
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So let's not assume every man thinks the same and all women can read minds. I'd say it would be quite pragmatic for a woman to assume a guy who is wining and dining her (your words) wants to have sex with her. So it's stupid to tell women don't go on a date unless you're willing to fuck me. I actually advised splitting the bill and not letting men wine and dine you, unless you want to have sex with them. so ppl like u I've never had or pursued casual sex You answering like this only proves that …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:13 PM
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Surely then a world where women are known for being more open and direct would solve this issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 10:12 PM
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What planet are you on, guys get rinsed all the time if they aren't getting dates, they'll get lambasted if they approach women and strike out and women are fairly vocal about wanting to date experienced men, you don't need to go online to find these attitudes. Edit: wait a minute, even if it was isolated to people online, isn't that the case for the people saying you're obese when you get rejected? It's obviously not going to be people who know you in real life, unless you are actually obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 10:03 PM
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Yeah I did have a bit of a crush on an autistic colleague years ago, a lot of the other guys used to call her boring and I don't think the other women particularly liked her, but I found her interesting, she was intelligent, but could come across a bit blunt/simple if you didn't take time to get to know her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 08:33 PM
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I'd find that refreshing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 08:05 PM
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Women know what a guy wants when he asks her out and pays, insist on paying half or don't go on dinner dates with guys you don't want to sleep with, unless you feel like being wined and dined, without putting anything else on the table yourself, is something you are entitled to. women and fun time girls who are down to fuck for free? This is pure solipsism; only women have easy access to casual sex en masse, most men ain't getting it "for free".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:59 PM
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I think it’s rare to feel stressed and anxious for “no reason.” But I’m an adherent to the idea that our thoughts create our feelings, not the other way around. In her case she quite often wakes up feeling anxious, she assumes it's to do with menopause/HRT. Maybe women are somehow naturally more into keeping a tidy home. “Nesting” and all of that. We probably will never know. I know socialization plays a HUGE role in this though. I can hear my mother’s voice when I see a jacket and hat on the co…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:05 PM
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Men facing rejection are often assumed to be creeps or losers, I'd argue men are judged more harshly for lacking success in dating as most women beyond a certain age generally rule out inexperienced men. Which do you think is worse, "many men" you don't know assuming you're obese when you're not or women you do know not wanting to date you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:49 PM
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Plenty of guys have that attitude about a woman and will ask her out anyway, the most you can say about a guy's feelings when he asks you out is that he feels there's a chance you'll say yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:46 PM
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Many women are socialized to equate their worth with how nice they keep their home. They view less than perfection as a personal moral failing and this causes them stress when things aren’t “perfect.” Yeah I definitely understand that. The boys in my family were allowed to have back packs brimming with loose sheets of paper and a messy room. I, as a girl, was shamed for it by my mother. Yet my mother would pick up after the boys. Never after me. Boys are actually quite rare in my family for what…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 05:05 PM
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However it’s reasonable to expect towels to be folded and spices to be put back somewhere on the spice rack and for the dishwasher to be emptied when clean and put into cupboards in a cohesive way. I don’t mean “these mugs have to be put in this order.” I mean it’s reasonable to expect things to generally be grouped with similar things. It helps with your day flowing easily. I shouldn’t have to look in four different cabinets for mugs. That inconvenience adds up over time. I agree with all that,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:32 PM
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Women are just more visual and love being around beautiful things. When I find men who actually take pride in how visually appealing their living space is, I’m instantly more attracted. That's all fair enough, I prefer to keep my house minimalist though and find beauty in that, having pictures on the walls and decorative items takes away from a space I think. I hate how when a woman decides I need more going on, keeping the plants watered or making sure the extra furniture and decorations are ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:17 PM
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There's levels of organisation though, this is the point I'm making, that women often want things to be organised their way specifically and consider anything organised differently to be disorganised, they go on to conflate neat and tidy with clean, exactly as you've done here. There's a gulf between not cleaning your plates and having to have them in a cupboard stacked in a specific way, there's a gulf between leaving garbage everywhere and having to have every decorative item in each room laid…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:06 PM
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Men in general don’t care if the house is dirty, as long as the general open spaces look tidy. To be fair having lived with guys in college and being a military vet, I've lived with enough men to know how downright nasty they can be, though it was a minority that were content with our space being unhygenic, most certainly cared less about presentation though. Some women are neurotic about unimportant things, but I reckon most of us have reasons for why we do what we do. For my family I'd guess i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:52 PM
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Man this is like living with my mother again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:36 PM
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This attitude is exactly what I'm talking about. My own house is well presented and clean, but I also don't get stressed out if someone leaves a mug on the coffee table and I certainly don't make it everyone elses problem when they do. I clean what needs cleaned, I repair what needs repaired and when I'm managing my time, I focus on function over form. Colour coordinating your towels and getting anxious about your various trinkets/decorations not being correctly laid out in the correct spots doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:33 PM
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It's a bathroom, nothing is sterile, I think a sealed tube of toothpaste ontop of the sink is pretty low on things to worry about when it comes to disease risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:22 PM
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I'm not talking like leaving it behind the toilet or something, I mean there was a specific glass to the side of the sink my mother wanted toothpaste and toothbrushes and she'd have a go at me if I just left it on the sink.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:04 PM
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I was raised by a single mother and have 2 sisters. Growing up surrounded by women made me realise something that's never brought up in these discussions, a lot of what women call "cleaning" goes far beyond making things clean. Housework is often about presenting the space how she wants it. When you simply don't care about superfluous stuff like say the bookcase being nicely laid out or the toothpaste being in the right spot in the bathroom or the towels correctly rolled up and placed in the rig…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:00 PM
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The biggest two reasons not to go to women for dating advice, I think, are firstly that women are passive, dating is something that happens to them and secondly whenever women do give advice it's always blatantly obvious they assume guys just naturally "get it" when it comes to courtship and skip past the part most guys struggle with, straight into bassically telling you what they want a guy they're already in a relationship with to do. Women also have inherent sexual desirability in a way men j…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 11:43 AM
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A woman would have to be an exceptional person (I don't mean looks) for me to overlook her having been a sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:47 PM
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They were BOTH playing games In what way? They were at college and it sounds like he didn't feel ready for a relationship and was honest with her about it. It's not like he was stringing her along to sleep with her by the sound of it. She specifically chose to date a "bad boy" (her words) that lived in his dorm so that he would see her car there and would feel jealous, that is the story she told, it would be different if she said he wasn't comitting and someone else made moves on her, but that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:35 PM
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You sure you're Blue Pill? Using one person to manipulate the emotions of someone else is textbook Red Pill, it's literally the whole point of "spinning plates" and "dread game" is the extreme of that. I'm actually flabbergasted people here think this is OK? I don't really care about what the OP is rambling about, I think he's had a bit too much kool-aid, and don't think Mathew Stafford himself can really complain (as far as I know he hasn't, so not sure why he's catching strays)from some purita…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 08:31 PM
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You don’t see anything wrong with volunteering that you used to hook up with your current husbands ex teammate to make him jealous? I probably shouldn't be surprised to see no women here even phased by this, but the amount they're supporting this behaviour is astounding. I guess they do agree with spinning plates and dread game, women really are some of the biggest red pillers and don't even realise it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 01:30 PM
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I don't think he's given an opinion, his opinion is irrelevant either way, she is the one that has come out and said she dated another guy to make him jealous. You are being completely disingenuous here, there's a difference between being casual and specifically choosing to date someone in order to elicit an emotional response in someone else, then admitting to it to the world is taking it a step further. She's already had to apologise to another couple because of the fallout/speculation from th…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 01:12 PM
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What guy wants a woman to emotionally manipulate them and use their friend to do so?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 10:33 AM
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Dating a guy's friend to make him jealous so he commits to you is trashy enough, but then telling the world about it after you married and had kids with the guy is taking it to a new level.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 10:00 AM
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What culture are you from, zog?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:32 PM
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Look man, if you want to deny science and remain wilfully ignorant, that's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 11:32 AM
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I think women come to this conclusion because the guys that operate like this are better equipped to play the game the way women mandate it, so that's who women get more exposure to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 11:25 AM
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There has been a generational decline in testosterone over the last century, please look up the links between testosterone and competition before you make yourself look even more ignorant. There are biological drivers for competion and status seeking among men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 10:53 AM
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Yes they are, what are you basing your assertion on? Testosterone has quite a big influence on competitive behaviour and status seeking.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 10:36 AM
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Who gives a fuck about what others think I'd say just about everyone outside of ascetic monks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 10:30 AM
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Also single guys can buddy up and give eachother handshakes and bro hugs, what's wrong with that? Men don't do it for me tbh I grew up in the 90s, I don't remember this idea of "touch" being an essential for mainstream. As an older millennial it seems like maybe our generation of men are a bit spoilt and entitled. What a bizarre take, you're too young to be sounding this much like a boomer. Medical understanding advances, we also have ready access to a lot more information than we did in the 90s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 10:25 AM
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Unless a man is just stunning and his personality is on full display and happens to match her energy and interests, why would a woman approach a total stranger? I see this used quite often to shut down this discussion and critique the men talking about it, but women don't make moves on guys they do know and do like, it's not just strangers, most women don't approach, they don't initiate, they don't escalate. I'd even say how much she likes him is almost completely irrelevant, most women will nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 09:26 AM
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The mental gymnastics women go to avoid simply admitting that they are insecure and scared to approach never ceases to amaze.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 02:21 AM
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How are most women dating cause 80% of women definitely don't approach
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 02:16 AM
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Even then, considering what red pillers aspire to is spinning plates, most of that list is counter productive. It's the tradcons that care about that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 12:18 AM
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Red pillers on this sub every single day: "Guys will take any woman except for fat women, divorcees, single mothers, women who wear revealing clothing, women who wear makeup, women who have social media followings, women who don't sleep with me as fast as they have slept with any other guy, women who won't perform sexual acts with me that they've performed with any other man (but only the sexual acts I like), women who have ever performed any sexual act I don't like, women who don't agree to man…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:19 PM
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A lot of women are happy if they can find a man who picks his own socks up off the floor and can wash dishes without being told to do so. A lot of women need to look at themselves if that's who they're getting into relationships with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:17 PM
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Man you're wasting your breath here Yeah you're not wrong. I don't know why I let myself get drawn into these conversations with women engaging in doublethink.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 10:10 PM
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In what way were they shy? Like what do you mean when you use the word shy? Shy and introverted are two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 06:51 PM
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That is the point though, I've read women say shy is cute, but I've yet to meet one that didn't want a man to initiate and sexually escalate with confidence, like what woman is out there wishing a guy would timidly approach her? I feel like often introversion, shyness and social anxiety get bundled together, I know women who prefer introverted men, but none that want a shy man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 06:41 PM
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Man I liked the quiet sorta goth girl that never spoke to anyone, the popular girls were just annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 06:31 PM
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Women select against shy by expecting men to be the initiators; the only way shy guys get any interest is by acting against their shyness, not leaning into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 06:23 PM
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I wouldn't describe him as struggling, he could easily have had a relationship, plenty of women wanted it, but none of them lived up to whatever ideal he was looking for. I'm fairly sure he is a sex addict, so I wonder if what he was looking for was a super high libido woman. What good is it to slay, when he is unable to get what he wants, while most other men get relationships. He did get what he wanted, he's had experiences most men could only dream of, like he might as well have been doing po…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 05:05 PM
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Please explain how you think I'm reasoning that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:20 PM
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I guess if the alternative is inceldom they probably feel somewhat forced.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:41 PM
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One of the biggest slayers I knew used to complain about dating and how he was worried he'd never meet anyone to settle down with. He just tore through women constantly, sometimes he'd have one he'd sleep with for a few months, some of those women would buy him gifts and shit and try get him to settle down, but he never met a woman he respected enough to actually commit to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:40 PM
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So are you saying that, before 25, women don't know the following: the food may kill or injure them, and they’ll be blamed for looking sideways at it or not saying no forcefully enough
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:33 PM
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Either women's fears are irrational or men's lack of fear is irrational, which do you think it is? Women are more likely to die driving to a date than they are on it, even further than that, they're more likely to be murdered by their long term boyfriend than they are a man they've just met on a date. Women's actions don't line up with their words, if dating was as bad as you make out, why would you date? Why have casual sex, why not vet guys for much longer? I've not met a woman outside of the …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:28 PM
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Who do you think is murdering men? That's right, other men. I knew someone would bring this up, what does it change though when talking about living in fear? Surely the gender more at risk of violence should be the one living in the most fear? sometimes trusting the wrong person Most women will have a one night stand at some point in their life and generally date and sleep with men they've known less than a year, it doesn't seem like they're particularly cautious of who they trust either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 12:47 PM
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What? Men are at significantly more risk of violent crime and being murdered, not to mention the biggest risk to a woman is a man she chose, not random strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 09:28 AM
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I wonder whether Red Pillers themself have changed or just what people call Red Pill. It seems the words "Red Pill" have become interchangeable with "The Manosphere" and many people talk about TRP from a place of complete ignorance to the point a lot of the discussion had here is meaningless. I can't count the amount of times people conflate the Black and Red Pills, when most Black Pillers woud call the Red Pill cope. I've been on and off this sub for years (You're actually one of the few names …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:58 PM
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Why would you expect RP to call men hypergamous then?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:05 AM
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I can disprove every single one of these ideas. I'd like to see you prove that men with the dark triad don't have more sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:48 AM
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You'll convince me when I see RPers call men hypergamous Do you think having someone of higher status is something that plays a significant part in men's selection criteria?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:44 AM
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Bro all I want is a man with hygiene, loves me, and won’t cheat or fantasize about other women. Most men can and do fit that bill. If all you're finding are unwashed guys who cheat on you, maybe how you select men needs looking at.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 07:59 AM
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I'd say yes and it's not something that would endear me to her. I would find it more flattering hearing she had a history of fulfilling relationships. How you let people treat you is a good indicator for where your self-esteem and self-respect are at.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 12:33 AM
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He's FTM trans, playing a totally different game.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:41 PM
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Most men should expect no woman to put in any particular effort to date him, even if she does want to date him. Her efforts are put into being attractive to men as a whole, in the hope one of them approaches her. If a man wants to date a woman, he has to put effort into her and beat out one of the other guys trying. This is the way it is, no use crying over it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:12 PM
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Man those women that were into me acted no different to any other woman in my life, either every woman I've known has been into me or there's no clear way of knowing before you ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 03:26 PM
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How did men ever manage to exist before the red pill? I think historically friends and family played a bigger role in matchmaking and you'd be in smaller communities dating people you likely grew up around. How we court these days isn't exactly typical for humanity throughout it's 100,000s of years of history. You know, you could have just asked them out. That's easy to say in hindsight knowing now how they felt then, at the time I didn't think they were interested, so why would I ask them out?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:08 PM
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Bit of a hyperbolic take, don't you think? I wasn't waiting for anything, I naturally hung out and made friends with women. I assumed women would show interest if they had it and lived my life, when I was in my early twenties I realised I must be missing something since no woman had displayed an interest (apart from, incidentally, a couple of drunk women who did actually spontaneously make out with me), then once I was in my thirties, I found out a few old friends had crushes on me back in the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:52 PM
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How many of those matches are bots? It totally contradicts the whole redpill I think you mean blackpill. Also the men get 1 match for every 40 likes and women get 1 for every 2 likes kinda feeds into blackpill talking points ngl Edit: also men like every 1 in 3 profiles and women like 1 in every 16 will also feed the blackpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:25 AM
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conventional Red Pill advice is meant to be a toolset to maximise sexual access to women, it focuses on casual sex and advises against commitment. If this is conventional now then it's because of red pill talking points becoming mainstream. Conventional wisdom used to be very much about providing stability and resources for romantic relationships and raising a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 10:22 AM
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The mainstream advice has all you need. Get your shit together be fun to be around dont spend your time complaining, grind at the gym, make yourself desirable, be confident dont be needy and always seeking reassurance. Dont put women on a pedestal treat them as equal , stand for your opinions and back them up dont fold in order to try to appeal to women etc etc Sounds a lot like red pill advice. strawman with zero nuance You're the one that seemingly doesn't know what Red Pill is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:57 AM
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Is English not your first language? among average guys some are slaying Relative to other average guys, the biggest, by a large margin, slayers are physically attractive men. bluepill + game That's a bit of an oxymoron, are you sure you are blue pill? The red pill is that you need game, that yourself alone isn't enough for women. The bluepill is the belief you don't need game, just be yourself and meet people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:45 AM
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I'm not the guy you asked the question to
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:36 AM
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Don't think Automod is gonna get many matches with this in it's bio.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:25 AM
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Never seen how two average guys can have completemy different success with women ? I have seen how very attractive broke alcoholics can rack up a bodycount.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:23 AM
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I read his comment as when you can make friends and do meet and hang out with people regularly, but it never progesses "naturaly" to the next step. Those people gravitate to the Red Pill, I'm probably lucky I was never exposed to it when I was younger, but I do think some Red Pill advice would've helped more than being told to hang out with people and make friends, for some men sexually escalating doesn't come naturally and the Red Pill is one of the few groups just outright telling men that. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:10 AM
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The last part is a statement, not a question; I'm saying straight women have no right to complain about men not wanting to marry because "The Scrpt" has been changed by women. I hope any woman who aspires to, and lives their life looking for, long term commitment and marriage finds it, but, from a man's perspective, it seems few women do that, they treat it more as something they'll receive, as a given, in the future and spend their younger years dating casually and entertaining fuck boy types. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 07:07 PM
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Everyone knows The Script: go to school, get an education, get a job, get married, have kids, eventually retire. Is this just The Script for men or women as well? Where would riding the carousel feature in this? On a list organised by who has the most right to say anything about men choosing not to marry, straight women are at the bottom, because y'all were the ones to rewrite The Script in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 06:15 PM
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This was a factor in me partly giving up on dating. In some ways it feels dumb to even say it, but having women always want an LTR with you makes you feel less desirable and feels less passionate overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:14 PM
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Because everytime I try to bond or get to know a woman without sex. It always fizzles out. Yep, I hate that you have to just act always up for sex and pursue it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:40 PM
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The win for these older men is fucking a much younger woman, if their priority was long term commitment they'd date women their own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:27 PM
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Women definitely don't select men for long term goals 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 08:56 AM
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Women just enforce it indirectly through dating and sex; if you don't fulfil the male gender role of initiating and escalating, you can expext to live a sexless life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 08:48 AM
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https://youtu.be/ZbG05ePWRQE?feature=shared
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:38 AM
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It's due to lack of game. A guy could be a woman's perfect man and they'd never date if he doesn't initiate and escalate exactly how she wants him to, then you see absolute losers slapping their woman about who get treated with care and love because they have game. There's no sense to who women choose because they don't choose men based on character or potential future happiness, they choose based on how high the highs are, regardless of how deep the lows get, women's selection method favours us…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 08:51 AM
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