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This makes no sense because as you said “the vast majority of attractive women are taken” (assuming homosexuality is equal among men and women) then similarly, the vast majority of attractive men are also taken. I rarely ever see my single average/unattractive female friends get approached or asked on dates, I have a female friend who is 22 and still a virgin. Yes, men will have to be the ones to make the move and I would agree that attractive women have it easier than attractive men, but unattr…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 12:04 PM
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I personally don’t look back and judge my ex’s quality by their attractiveness. This is usually not something I remember strongly about them. I personally judge them based on how they treated me, the things we did together as a couple, their maturity, how they treated their family etc. cause ultimately those are the things that matter in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 08:41 AM
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Wtf? Back to my point, literally all those things are still true of a 22/23 year old, except she will have more maturity and confidence. Lol do you think fertility runs out at 19?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 08:41 AM
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It actually baffles me that men would dismiss women’s protectiveness over young girls as jealousy. These girls are not our competition! Often the men who go for these very young girls either can’t get with women their own age. They choose women significantly younger because they have lower expectations and self-esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 01:37 AM
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Sure, young women are hotter but it’s not like only 18/19/20 fresh out of highschool is the only age women are attractive? Women don’t peak at 19 (I argue they peak much later). The mental growth people experience from 18-22 is huge, when I was 18/19 I still felt like my friends and I had one foot in adolescence, we didn’t have the emotional maturity or life experience yet to be placed in the same category as adults. I’m 22 yet I can’t imagine dating someone 19, we’d just be in completely differ…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 01:26 AM
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The main thing that bothers me when a man in his late 20’s early 30’s goes for a young girl 18/19/20 and fresh out of highschool is that I’m 22 and I can hardly even be friends with someone who was 18, let alone date them. There’s an enormous amount of maturing and growth still taking place at this age. An 18 year old is far more mentally immature with much less life experience than a 22 year old. This is why most people wouldn’t bat an eye at a 28/38 age gap relationship, because both partners …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 01:18 AM
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Looks is just a small component of what makes a person overall attractive. I have a theory that people often value traits in their partners that they themselves lack. For example a very attractive woman may not value having the most attractive partner since looks is not something they feel they lack and would be more drawn to a partner who is more financially stable or more outgoing and socially adept then them etc. Same goes for a lot of wealthy people choosing partners who aren’t necessarily w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 03:09 AM
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I’m in a long term relationship and on the pill so I’d probably ask my partner to take extra precautions. but to me I don’t ever want to have to be in a position where I need one. I will get one on the unlikeliest chance I end up pregnant in the circumstances and age I currently am but I already don’t see it as a viable option so I’m already extra careful.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 02:55 AM
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I know people make the joke “I’m not reading all that” but honestly dude, I’m not reading all that. Why are you writing novel length paragraphs no one is gonna read? Please for you own sake, go see friend or go on a walk. Dude! It’s Saturday!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 05:10 AM
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Jfc you’re so bitter. What is your issue with me? This is just sad
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 06:36 AM
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You’ve got the wrong idea of me and my point. I never got played again after that. I actually took a huge step back and looked at myself and that relationship. I understood why I enabled someone to treat me that way. I needed to respect and love myself. I was single for two years and worked on gaining my independence and working on friendships. I met my current bf through friends and he’s probably the loveliest person I’ve ever known. I still strongly feel that no young girl should have to go th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 05:07 AM
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My experience is unfortunately very common, I’m not projecting it onto every age gap relationship, like I said it’s all relative. I was dumb when I was 19, but how could I not have been? I had barely just entered the real world outside of school. I had never even been on a date. I’m a completely different woman now I’m 22 though, I have a lovely bf who worships and respects me, I live and work independently. I have a degree and self respect. I would never let how my ex treat me at my current sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:58 AM
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If you actually think a 19 year old will listen to their parents when they disapprove of their partner you clearly have zero life experience outside of your computer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:47 AM
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Ofc my parents disapproved, what 19 year old will listen to their parents? I do take responsibility for letting him treat me like garbage, and it’s never happened since. but how can you actually believe the adult well into his late 20’s dating a teen and using his age advantage as a means to manipulate and get away with emotional abuse isn’t the real issue here?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 02:22 AM
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Women don’t age that quickly tf? Most women in their mid to late 20’s look just as attractive as 18-22 year old women. The majority women in their mid to late 20’s don’t have kids or are “run through” the average number of sexual partners US women have in their lifetime is 7. It’s all relative, a 27 year old man dating a 21 year old woman is not necessarily an issue but a 32 year old man dating a 19 year old woman is pretty messed up in my opinion. 19 is still a teenager, why would a grown man i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:09 AM
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He was broke af, all I wanted from him was love. I WAS innocent and vulnerable, I had never had a boyfriend or sex, my only life experience was high school. I didn’t have the maturity and experience to know what was normal in a relationship. He was able to easily manipulate me into doing things I wasn’t comfortable with by saying “that’s how relationships work”. Or using his age over me to convince me he was always in the right and that I was immature and he was superior. The sugar baby/daddy in…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 12:51 AM
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When did I refer to myself as a girl? I am an adult woman. My point is at 19 I was fresh out of school very inexperienced, immature and easy to manipulate. I’m now 22 and live and work independently and have matured exponentially since, but compared to a man/woman in their late 20’s or early 30’s I’m nowhere near as mature and experienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 01:08 AM
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When a 30+ male dates a woman that’s still technically a teen or 20-22. The lack of dating/life experience they have makes them so vulnerable to manipulation and verbal/emotional abuse. I experienced it myself: Most “women” fresh out of high school or in college are far more immature, insecure and lacking in self confidence/life experience than women in their later 20’s early 30’s. Also why would a man in his early 30’s want to be with a 19-22 year old girl that young and inexperienced? What wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 10:33 PM
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It’s really quite simple. If you actually like the guy beyond just physical attraction and wish to have a relationship with them then we often wait to have sex because we don’t want to jeopardise the possibility of a second date by him thinking we’re just a casual hookup or not relationship material because we’re easy. There’s also the desire to have the first time you have sex with someone you like be special and that usually means waiting to get to know them cause it makes sex so much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 04:29 AM
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Have you ever considered though that simply listening and validating their feelings IS in itself the help though? Most people actually want and can fix their problems themselves but a key part of the struggle is feeling as though we’re alone in our suffering and no one is by our side while we get through it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 02:00 PM
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Bahaha that video hit the nail on the head.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 09:59 PM
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I see where your ex’s were coming from, sometimes you just need emotional support and validation. I hate when I’m reaching out for emotional support from my partner but they are focused on trying to fix the problem without validating my emotions and what I’m saying I need. You probably feel frustrated because your advice is dismissed and efforts unappreciated but they are frustrated that their not feeling understood and listened to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 09:57 PM
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Personally, no not at all, I’ve had my bf’s cry in front of me before and I liked that they were vulnerable in front of me because I know it’s harder for men to cry in front of others and made me feel closer to them. Im usually not going to be in the mood for sex after just seeing them upset but it didn’t make me any less attracted to by partners as a whole. Sorry you didn’t have a supportive experience, your gf should be supportive when you reveal your emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 09:46 PM
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Yes, It’s ironic punctuation. The question mark adds inflection and a pause. It's definitely incorrect usage in written communication, it’s colloquial “Internet speak” used to express tone exactly as one would say it verbally.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 08:59 PM
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I mean? Yeah you have a point but also you’re right I’m not gonna date someone who is going to work minimum wage their whole life, it’s too much of a income disparity that it’s inevitable it will be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:47 AM
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Depends on the context tbh. If someone is content to work a minimum wage job, never travel etc then that’s unattractive. If someone is say content with their teaching job and not being a millionaire then that’s grounding.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:27 AM
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Being very unambitious is also an unattractive trait. People are attracted to people who dream big and engage with life’s possibilities. There’s something very mundane about someone who settles.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:13 AM
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I earn a decent amount so if they earn a bit less because they choose a career that wasn’t super lucrative it wouldn’t matter. What’s more important is motivation and financial responsibility, if they could be earning more but don’t have the drive to or if they were irresponsible with money then it would be a problem. Also If they were earning significantly less I think it would be a dealbreaker, I can see that being a problem in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 03:10 AM
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What? I think you misinterpreted my comment when I said “they’re far more racist towards black people and indo-Europeans than caucasians” I meant that they are more prejudice against those races than they are towards caucasians. I didn’t mean that Asians are more racist than white people. I can see how you would’ve read that though, I didn’t really word it clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 11:47 PM
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They’re far more racist towards black people and Indo-Europeans than Caucasians. I already know where the prejudice towards darker skinned asians came from but it still doesn’t change the fact that it’s coulorism. Some asians are simply born with darker skin tones than others and experience bullying and prejudice because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 08:52 PM
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Those examples actually don’t hold up. People actually love Le Bron James as a person outside of his basketball career. K pop stans are obsessed with them outside of their music and often discuss every detail of their lives and I’ve seen tweets concerned about how much their working and if their eating etc. I never said I think you condemn them or hate women. I thought we were just having a discussion? I wanted to point out that I can see where they’re coming from. I acknowledge that sex work co…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:46 PM
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I’m sure a small amount of abuse still takes places but not nearly as much since the industry is regulated. They don’t have to deal with abuse from clients or be controlled by pimps.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:12 PM
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I can see where they’re coming from just because they work in the sex industry doesn’t mean they’re just sex objects. It’s their work not their entire being. They’re still people at the end of the day. Although they should probably expect their dating prospects to be limited due to stigma. I’m not sure about the context of Lana Rhodes video but If she’s complaining about the corruption behind the porn industry I believe she has a right to address it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:07 PM
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Thanks for reading and understanding my argument! The logic behind it is that when prostitution is criminalised sex workers are less likely to contact the police to report abuse. Making it illegal has shown to do little to reduce or stop it from occurring, it only makes it easier for forced prostitution and for pimps exploiting women. By legalising it the industry is regulated like any other workplace. They no longer have to rely on abusive pimps and issues in the sex trade can be better identif…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 12:57 PM
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5’8 is not even that short! I highly doubt being a couple inches taller will have that huge of an effect on dating success anyway. It’s also not the be all and end all in attractiveness. A 5’8 guy who is more charismatic or more physically attractive or successful beats a 5’11 guy any day.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 12:18 PM

I’m kinda split minded on whether or not OF’s is empowering. You make a point but another logical part of me knows that money is the only true power in a capitalist society. These women are running their accounts themselves, they decide what they do or don’t post. They’re not actually selling they’re bodies they’re selling images and videos of their bodies meaning they never actually have to see or touch their clients. It is kinda empowering.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 12:04 PM

In regards to Point 1, shouldn’t they be compensated for their labour? Why would they do it for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 11:52 AM

The difference is consent. OF’s creators are consenting to being viewed as sexual objects from their clients. Women rightfully complain about being objectified in workplaces or going about their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 11:48 AM

In Australia and the Netherlands prostitution is legal and it’s beneficial. The legalization of sex work enforces compliance with labor laws by businesses in the sex work industry. It reduced the number of people at risk of forced prostitution and human trafficking. Prostitution is pretty much guaranteed on the basis of societal structure, it’s existed for centuries. There’s no evidence of an increase in the amount of prostitution taking place by legalising it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 11:41 AM

To be fair, the type clientele who are willingly paying for these services are likely perverted degenerates probably 40 years their senior. On paper that gig would sound sweet and easy but I imagine the reality of it is actually an awful and degrading experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 11:33 AM

Imo I don’t believe Only fans is any easier than working a minimum wage job. Yes, it may be physically less taxing but the mental exhaustion of having to deal with clients unleashing absolute degeneracy upon them is equally if not more taxing. Not to mention the social scrutiny from working in sex work. Most people who sign up for onlyfans only make the equivalent (if not less) than a minimum wage job and the ones who are actually making a killing off it is very rare. It’s why only 0.013% of wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 11:25 AM
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Accurate, i’m obsessed with how my bf smells, it’s not really a scent I can describe it’s just his scent. I knew I was in love when just his scent made me feel safe and happy. Even if he’s all sweaty he never smells like BO to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:48 AM

That’s probably correct but it’s a lot more complicated than that. Certain Asian countries have a culture of skin bleaching and discrimination against asians of a darker skin tone. There’s also the fact China is sending muslims to concentration camps. Asian’s can be very xenophobic and racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:37 AM
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In terms of predominantly white countries (US, UK and Australia) he does have a point though, immigration can easily fill the demand of workers needed. Same can be said for Japan, China and South Korea but it’s not discussed enough how hugely racist and xenophobic these Asian countries are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:34 AM

What about immigration? Immigrants often have children as soon as they arrive and are often very willing to work. I don’t think it’s a bad thing for wealthy countries to have more space to allow in hardworking immigrants from poor countries with high fertility rates. Also immigration is flexible we can turn it on and off depending on demand for workers whereas fertility rate is not something that can be easily controlled.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:28 AM

It’s not necessarily an issue, it really depends on how wealthy a country is. In 1990 1 in every 11 baby born would die before they turned 5 now the number has dropped to 1 in every 27. countries with high child mortality tend to have higher fertility rates. Wealthier countries have an ageing population but it’s really just an indication of modernity and for the most part the economy has adapted. In wealthy countries people have longer life expectancies but they also have a longer ‘healthy life …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:18 AM
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That’s probably true for people with a very high n count but I don’t think it makes much of a difference when the n count compared with a partner only varies by a few. For example if one person has 5 and another has 8 it’s not necessarily a problem or an indication that the person with a higher number is going to cheat. A better indicator would be context behind their previous partners, someone can have an n-count of 2 but have cheated on their previous partner whereas someone can have an n coun…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 09:42 AM
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How is that a surprise or relevant? It’s common knowledge that attractiveness and beauty standards are universal since they’re ingrained in us based on indicators of genetic health/fertility. The majority of men are similarly are attracted to women with the same genetic markers. The main difference is men are less picky when it comes to who they will sleep with. This is the same in the majority of the animal kingdom though since women can have less offspring etc. That doesn’t change the fact tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 09:29 AM
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if you don’t have close friends or people who care what you’re up to, no one gives a shit how you spend your time
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 09:36 AM
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Lmao unless ur referring to your mommy no one cares what you do with your time
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 09:34 AM
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This is women’s version of men’s “Madonna whore complex” that they assign to women. We idolise the men in our lives too much in our early years that when they reveal flaws and hurt us we believe they are bad. I’m fairly progressive but this was my experience with my father and older brother. I had to learn that they are not perfect like in believed in childhood or simply careless assholes like I thought in my teenage years, they are simply complex humans. The problem is that with all the forgive…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 08:10 AM
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Literally just making shit up no one cares if a guy wants to play video games
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 12:32 PM
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What women are bitching about men playing video games? Maybe your mum but no one else cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 07:32 AM
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Where and when? Ur all still very much present
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:08 AM
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I do now but in the beginning I was too loved up to care
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 09:30 PM
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Lol I never said I overeat! I’m still a petite person. My point is people often don’t realise how much less other people need to eat. Our bodies aren’t all built the same so we don’t require the same calories.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/21 12:17 PM
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When you’re a short petite woman like myself, there’s this problem that I have a very low basal metabolic rate meaning I don’t need a lot of food. Even though I exercise and stay active I still don’t burn as much as people who are naturally bigger. The problem is when I eat out with friends etc I don’t need as much as them. Also portions are not designed for women my size but I have been pressured into finishing my plate eating when I’m not hungry and accused of dieting or having an ED for not e…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 11:04 PM
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This is very true. My boyfriend can eat double the amount I can (he also weights almost double my weight) he has an insatiable appetite but won’t gain any fat. I gained a couple kgs at the start of our relationship because instead of eating alone when I was hungry, I’ll eat when my partner is hungry. Especially since eating together (going to restaurants/cooking meals together) is such a social activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:55 PM
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Me! I only take classes at my gym
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:44 PM
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To be fair Tess Holiday is a very extreme example of a plus size model and has received a huge amount of backlash. There are countless examples of female plus size models that are more normal sizes and aren’t obese such as Robyn Lawley who has a BMI of 25.5. I do think you have a point that men have more varying fetishes when it comes to women’s body types but I’d still argue that these women still aren’t the beauty standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 10:33 PM
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Yeah he’s the best. I will say I’ve seen women have a similar complaint about men, that they don’t care how intelligent a woman is and only care about how attractive they are etc. I don’t believe either gender values intelligence in a partner more than the other, it’s more an individual based thing and unfortunately not valued enough in dating and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 04:28 AM
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This isn’t true in my opinion, a lot of my female friends are interested in intellectual topics cause we re studying the same science at university. I’d say 2/3rds of students in my degree are female. In fact, women currently make up over half of law students. A huge chunk of women actually are in those fields you just discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 04:09 AM
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I think it depends on how Intellegent a woman is. I’ve noticed I can’t connect as well with people who aren’t on a similar level of intelligence as me, I think this is the same for most people. I had to cut off a friend a few years ago because she wasn’t very smart and conversations with her felt frustrating, I couldn’t bring up anything worth discussing cause she’d just divert with an unfunny joke or parrot what I had said. Eventually my other friends admitted their dislike of her vapidness whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 04:04 AM
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If I’m being honest my initial thought is I’d think there’s something kinda pathetic about it. Personally part of what makes sex good is knowing my partner is attracted to me. Id wonder what was wrong with a guy if he is willing to pay for sex knowing they are only doing it cause they were paid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 03:44 AM
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Yeah, basically I’m saying she’s not fit for one. She might even be fit for one with a different person or at another time. I’d still suggest OP end things since often it can become messy on his end too if the other person isn’t on the same page about how casual the relationship is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/21 01:21 AM
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That’s an extraneous analogy, you’re having some unrelated argument and are caught up on some idea that I believe she is too pure to have a casual fling. Maybe she can with someone else, idk but I’m saying in this case it’s clearly not fit for a casual fling since she is saying she loves him, there’s nothing casual about that and you might as well take the term casual out of the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 01:49 PM
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These subs are rarely about dating advice and more about being more attractive in general. There’s far more advantages to being attractive than just within the dating sphere. Since getting male attention isn’t exactly difficult for a woman that’s usually not the end goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 01:37 PM
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As a female Wanting to look more attractive is not necessarily something women desire only to gain male attention. There’s advantages than span far outside of the dating sphere. Even though these subs discuss the advantages of increased male attention, it’s usually in the context of what they can get from this rather than discussing how they can get a boyfriend/husband etc. From experience having male attention as a woman is not exactly difficult or even very rewarding so it’s usually not the en…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 01:32 PM
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The entire foundation of a casual fling is that both sides agree they want a sexual relationship but are not attached to each other. If you believe that “get attached too easily” is a casual fling material then that’s kinda messed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 01:22 PM
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People get their feelings hurt having casual flings all the time. If someone is telling their “casual fling” that they love them. That’s a big sign that she’s in too deep and wants something more than he’s prepared to give. I’d say for both their sake end things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 01:17 PM
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her personality is irrelevant, If the girl is saying “I love you” she is definitely not prepared to have a casual fling.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 12:53 PM
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It’s not like women aren’t being told the same mixed messages that actively hurt our chances, like that were perfect as we are and personality is all that matters etc. I’m talking about early teens here, 14-17 year old girls are still dating high school boys, it’s pretty rare they’re dating older than a couple years at that age. Men must notice that the guys who we’re getting lots of female attention were physically attractive. Young girls notice these things at a very young age, internalise it,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 10:14 AM
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There’s overt lies told to pull the wool over your eyes, then there’s white lies told to tip toe over discussing cruel realities. Does anyone over the age of 11 actually believe the white lie that as long as you’re kind how you look doesn’t matter? I don’t see what you’re even referring to how many women are actively claiming that looks absolutely do not matter in a partner? Most women openly discuss what physical traits they find attractive in a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 07:08 AM
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I think I should point out Vin diesel is not someone women think is sexy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 06:51 AM
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Kinda shocked that this can somehow be blindsiding and something you only picked up on in your 20’s? Every film, tv show, form of media involves highly attractive men getting the girl etc. I don’t believe this is a common experience to come to this realisation only in your 20’s. Considering all the evidence to the contrary it’s hard to believe that you can believe someone telling you a white lie. Little girls experience a similar lie told usually by older women that were all beautiful just the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 06:39 AM
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https://relationshipsinamerica.com/relationships-and-sex/how-many-people-have-americans-had-sex-with This gives a pretty good look at the median as opposed to the average. The average sexual partners is 8 for men and 7 for women. According to this study (based only on the US) the median comes to 4-6 partners for both genders (of strictly heterosexuals) so yes, the median is lower because people with over 50+ etc skews the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 06:02 AM
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Personally I don’t what kids for at least another 7 years but that doesn’t mean I don’t find it an attractive quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 05:32 AM
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Lol sorry I meant to reply to op
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 05:30 AM
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My childhood friend’s dad is a famous brain surgeon. He once told my parents and I about a surgeon who was known to be a huge coke addict who would even use during surgery. He wasn’t fired because he was good and making the hospital a lot of money. He would also tell us about the enormous egos on doctors and how they would tell a patient they were inoperable rather than refer them to a more competent colleague. There a lot worse things a medical professional can do than a doctor who once sold nu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 05:02 AM
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“Can you really trust a dentist to put you under when they’re comfortable exploiting themselves for money?” Yes? Being an employee is technically exploiting yourself for money. I honestly couldn’t care less if my dentist has sold nudes for money. Whether it was to get themselves through dental school or they just wanted extra money, it has no indication of how good they are at their job, so I don’t care. Onlyfans is especially more normalised by younger generations. That’s not to say many would …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 04:54 AM
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Sure, a physically attractive guy is physically attractive. But attractiveness towards someone isn’t just based on looks. Being good with children is a trait that many women see as attractive. If you think of it logically of course being a good father makes women sexually attracted to a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 04:36 AM
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So? I was pointing out that calling someone a potentially good father is the opposite of meaning they’re unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 04:08 AM
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OnlyFans has gone after leakers in the past as it violates their terms of service and the models hold the copyrights to their images. They serve up $10k in damages. In some countries sharing the content to others who haven’t paid is considered revenge porn. Based on the majority of articles I’ve read, the only women actually being fired are the ones currently submitting content while also working at the company, or an employee is promoting it on their public Social media. Even in these cases som…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 04:05 AM
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No way, my bf is very attractive and seeing him with kids makes him even more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:47 AM
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logically, seeing a man display good fathering qualities should be one of the most sexually attractive things to a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:45 AM
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How does being a provider or not going to prison or dying make a man a beta?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:41 AM
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This phenomenon isn’t exclusive to one gender either, a lot of men will have flings with women who are sexy, fun etc but they don’t want a serious relationship with or ever see themselves marrying them. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing though. At least when they’ve had this type of relationship before they choose to settle down they don’t always have to wonder once they settle down what they missed out on and cheat etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:39 AM
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I do think that it’s true that some women when they’re young women enjoy men they know aren’t marriage material but it’s definitely not always the case. I could see myself marrying my current boyfriend, a big part of why I fell for him is because he would make a great husband/dad one day. I’m only 22 but I’m not interested or attracted to the idea of a bad boy or someone I couldn’t see myself with forever. It honestly doesn’t sound like fun at all, it sounds anxiety inducing. Despite that I want…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:33 AM
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Yes! With all my past boyfriends I wondered if they’d make good fathers and seeing them engage well with kids makes me really attracted to them. Even though I don’t want kids for at least another 6 years or so, I still get excited when my current bf talks about what he wants in a family some day or he is sweet to a child when we’re in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:23 AM
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Imagine being an adult and going through life thinking women aren’t individuals with the same complexity as men. Why do some people on this sub speak of women like were some collective💀
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:19 AM
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Yeah but who is insane enough to send porn of an employee to their bosses social media? They’re risking their own job at that point, and for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:14 AM
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I definitely see that height is important In male physical attractiveness and their dating pool. I’ve noticed a lot of men simply add a couple inches to their height and since women are on average 5 inches shorter than men (5’4 vs 5’9) they can’t always tell the difference. Me and my female friend who’s 5’9 will always have a laugh when men who are the same height as her swearing she’s 5’11. I think a large amount of 5’9 men claim they’re 5’11, 5’10 men say they’re 6ft and 6ft men claim they’re …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 03:11 AM
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I looked it up and only found a couple of cases where women were fired for it and for the most part it was reasonable dismissal since she was wearing her uniform in the photos and posting from the Employee bathrooms. Wouldn’t most use a fake name? I know companies do social media checks but considering the pictures are behind a paywall, I doubt they’re easy to find. We are talking about a small percentage of people here though. Only about 0.02% of people are actually on onlyfans, I think cause m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:53 AM
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I think that if someone is willing to do onlyfans the jobs they will do in the future or are currently doing likely don’t care about if they have done only fans or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/21 02:18 AM
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I do agree that for short women the difference in height of their desired partners are going to be greater but the reality is that short women have a large dating pool. 99% of men are taller than a 5’2 woman and since height isn’t as much of a factor in attractiveness for women, she will likely have attention from men of a range of heights. A lot of men do actually slightly prefer shorter women and I’ve even had a man tell me he’d prefer a 4’10 woman to a 5’10 woman. Still it’s not as big of a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 01:12 PM
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K but like I have never known a grown man who is 5ft. 5’7 is still shorter than the average male height. That’s like believing a 6’2 guy should date a 6’2 woman
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 12:54 PM
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It is true that it’s not easily comparable to waist to hip ratio women but the weight red pillers place on height is over exaggerated. It is largely relative to the height that the woman is. A woman who is 5’1 is not going to be able to tell or care if a man is 5’9 or 5’11. A woman who is 5’9 is likely going to notice that half of men are shorter than her and be particularly attracted to a man that is a lot taller. A lot of it comes down to biology and a women feeling more feminine when they’re …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 07:27 AM
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Well the average woman has 7 partners throughout her life, which isn’t high at all let alone 300 so saying that men either “sleep with sluts and have kids - or at least aspire to - with virgins.” As if any woman who has had previous sexual partners is a slut is ridiculous. Unless you actually believe any number of partners higher than 0 before marriage is too high, in which case I regret engaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 06:19 AM
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I think you’re looking at it in the wrong way. Certain traits will usually be seen as attractive and unattractive by everyone. However, people place value on how important certain traits are in a partner, due to their own experience etc. For example my female friend who is tall herself is pickier when it comes to height than I am. I’m only 5ft myself and have dated a guy who was 5’7 before. As long as they’re not ridiculously short it’s not a dealbreaker for me. Also the men we’ve dated are very…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 04:46 AM
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Most women view tall height as an attractive trait in men, just like most men view a small waist to hip ratio as a positive in women. It’s not that black and white though. Women will still be interested in a guy if he ticks other boxes but isn’t tall same as men will still date a woman with smaller hips or a larger waist than ideal. It’s all on a spectrum. It’s ridiculous to claim that no women will ever date a man under a certain height, it’s all relative.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 04:01 AM
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This is true for very attractive women, yes, this is usually the form of rejection they experience. I don’t think it perplexes them though, I think they know very well they were dumped either because his attraction to her was only ever physical or because besides her looks, who she was wasn’t enough to keep his attention or very compatible with them. Just because they’re attractive doesn’t mean they aren’t insecure or capable of being aware of their flaws outside of their looks than anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 03:46 AM
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As a woman, agreed. One gender does not specifically bring more to the table. Gender does have a difference in what one partner brings to the table but how much someone brings to the table is entirely individual based. I do think that with women gaining more rights and opportunities to work that now more than ever what one partner brings to the table is even-handed. I see it a lot in older couples who got together at a time when women had less opportunity to work. Usually the male is less attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 03:14 AM
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From what I’ve seen, no, the women I still follow from high school that overshare on Facebook and Instagram are talking about their friends bitching behind their back, a problem/argument with their family, mental health or addiction struggles and finally their bf that they have been on and off with for years. All the women that come to mind who put posts like this on social media have a bf that is equally toxic, messy and drama heavy who also overshares on social media. They have usually been wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 02:43 AM
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Everyone changes at the end of the honeymoon stage though. The initial hit of new love & the endorphins that come with it will subside for women too. At the beginning of a relationship women are more likely to be blind to traits and flaws of their partners. I think it’s more of a personality thing a gender specific thing of suddenly being less interested once the initial relationship high is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 02:36 AM
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This sub is looking more and more like an incel forum post each day
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 02:26 AM
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In Australia prostitution is legal so it’s all in the books. And 15% of men have used prostitution at some point I their lives, so this survey is pretty accurate actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 01:26 AM
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Using Prostitution isn’t all that common only of men 14% have paid for sex at one point in their lives but only 1% of men have in the past year in an anonymous survey.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 01:24 AM
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If they’re getting into long term relationships how are they being passed around by a tiny number of guys? Also, all the men I’m friends with have had at least a handful of sexual partners and past relationships. If this were true there would be larger discrepancy in the amount of men reporting sexlessness compared to women but in reality it’s only something like a 4% difference
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/21 12:20 AM
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If I’m at a club or party we’re assuming I’m drunk, high or at least slightly tipsy, so usually no. These are the only times the thought to approach a guy has crossed my mind. If I saw a stranger I thought was cute in public I would think “he’s cute” and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 10:01 PM
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Do women actually say this?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 09:54 PM
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Unless it’s a ridiculously high number, I don’t really care or ask. If it’s ridiculously high I’d question if he is a player who uses women for sex and has trouble with commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 09:53 PM
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I’m 22 and Idk why people are convinced this is a common occurrence? None of my female friends are having casual hookups all the time. I live in a big city and my friends who are single will maybe go on a date with someone every few months but won’t actually sleep with them before the 3rd date, if there even is one. Also most of my friends have had a few long term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 09:41 PM
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I agree it does take some degree of compromise and effort but if it’s a challenge just to stay with someone then at that point what are you even working for? What are you really losing if you walk away? We only have one life why would you choose to spend it with someone who makes it feel like work? Love and who were in a relationship with is one of the few things in life that we can actually choose and should bring us happiness and satisfaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 07:01 PM
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Who’s “we” I highly doubt most men over the age of 16 would expect who they’re sleeping with to be a virgin, let alone aspire to it. Even in some countries today still have a form of dowry.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 05:38 PM
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How is hiring a woman in 2021 a “diversity hire” wtf? Also, who do you expect to look after children?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 03:05 PM
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How is it a bad thing women have destroyed the institution of marriage? Of course women have they were sold by their fathers to their husbands where they would have little to do but raise children and make the home. It didn’t matter if their husbands were abusive or cheating they couldn’t leave. Allowing women to divorce their husbands is one of the best things to happen to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 02:59 PM
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This doesn’t surprise me because marriage is overall going out of style and the rise in defacto rights of couples. Despite the fact that I love weddings, since most people no longer believe god will smite them if they have sex out of wedlock it’s really overdue that marriage isn’t as common.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 02:47 PM
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I think a big part of this comes down to our culture. Women are allowed to explore their bisexuality more freely and not be labeled as a lesbian or experience as much intolerance. If a man came out as bisexual to his friends it would likely not be as acceptable between his male friends. There’s also the impact it has on dating, women aren’t as comfortable with their male partner also liking men. There’s also this among gay men. There’s also the fact that a lot of women who label themselves as bi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 02:31 PM
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Yes! Would really advise against hitting on someone who is in service work. Unless you’re getting pretty heavy signals it’s important to remember they have to be nice to you. This has happened countless times where a man will misinterpret my customer demeanour for flirting. Some people don’t realise that it’s particularly uncomfortable to be hit on when you’re working, especially since you can’t fully be yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 02:16 PM
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I don’t mind as much being chatted up at my university like in a class, waiting for my class to start, on campus. I think it’s because I’m in a more social mindset and I feel more comfortable that at least we have something in common. I also don’t mind as much being flirted with by a coworker (not by customers since I feel trapped that I have to be nice and use my customer voice). I would really dislike it if a guy approached or touched me to get my attention while listening to music, I think mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 02:08 PM
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It’s true Women are the reproductive selectors that’s the case in most animals but to say that men have 0 influence over when they become a father is a bit of a reach. The majority of women would not choose to have a child with a man who didn’t want to raise their child with them. I should say I don’t actually think that people becoming parents older is a bad thing. The positive impact on a child having parents who are more financially stable and mature likely outweighs the risk. Even if parents…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 01:06 PM
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Even so, those graphs still show correlation, something that I had never actually given much thought to until today. There’s so much talk about the effects of women having children older and internal clocks ticking but barring IVF (which is expensive) women can’t really physically have children past their prime fertility. Men can be well into their late 40’s, 50’s and even 60’s still having new children, something that wasn’t as common in the past as now we have a pill that can help them get it …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 11:29 AM
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I’m 22 my parents are In their 60’s and still together. I’d say that my POV of what is normal in dating and relationships is very different to the 2 men I’ve dated who’s parents went through a messy divorce. It sounds awful but my experience of them is that they were really damaged by their parents divorce and weren’t self reflective enough to work on it or even realise it. In both cases they had a deep rooted bitterness towards love, but also intense neediness to possess that ultimately made me…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 11:09 AM
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What about the 99% of men that don’t require convincing themselves that women are the problem to avoid facing that they’re undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 10:09 AM
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No one ever talks about the connection between the age of male sperm and the rise in autism. Scientists have continually published studies yet no-one pays attention. Our society talks a lot about the rising age of motherhood. Yet men have similarly had children far past peak fertility. Instead we blame nonsensical conclusions like vaccines instead of the idea men’s sperm and fertility similarly expires like womens. We need to acknowledge and accept that men have an expectation date just like wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 06:19 AM
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I agree 100% with relationship experience being the best at helping you know what you truly want in one. My only issue is that I don’t believe in dating the obviously toxic ones. They waste your time, energy and ultimately you don’t learn much you didn’t know already. Instead I believe in dating the one you think will be good, as often you will be wrong at first. When I was dating guys I knew weren’t relationship material, I didn’t learn much because the answer to why it didn’t work was obvious.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 12:05 AM
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Even guys who don’t have obvious red flags at first will often have red flags that only become obvious later in the relationship. This is also very true when you first start dating, you don’t know what red flags look like when you first begin your dating life. I’ve become much better at identifying red flags from previous relationships. However at the time I really thought they were perfect. Each boyfriend I’ve had has been 100x better than the last. I really don’t believe in dating people that …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 11:08 PM
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I would only edit the first part, don’t waste time dating men with obvious red flags! You will only hurt yourself when the commitment-phobic, crazy and bad boys break your heart and destroy your trust. Instead I’d say follow your heart and date the boy who you believe is good at the time. Then when red flags appear or the relationship isn’t working don’t hesitate to leave. Take with you the lessons you learnt from that relationship and never repeat the same mistakes. You can only truely know wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 09:56 PM
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I used to not care or consider it cheating but my current boyfriend has changed my mind on it. My current boyfriend told me he stopped watching porn a while back because he realised it was bad for his mental and sexual health. He is by far the best, most attentive sexual partner I’ve ever had. I now realise that a lot of my ex’s sexual behaviour was learned from porn. They were very rough and not ask before they did something, they also weren’t into cuddling or talking after.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 02:35 AM
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Yes. My first bf had terrible hygiene and unfortunately, I just assumed it was what all men did since that’s what he told me when I complained. My partners since have been extremely hygienic and clean.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:19 AM
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I was 17 almost 18, he was attractive and in my friend circle for a while. We had a mutual flirtation and one day I just decided that I was ready and wanted to, it was very much and in the moment decision which I think took the pressure off. He seemed to really like me and I tried to form a relationship after but it became clear he was more interested in sex than getting to know me and I was more interested in having my first become my bf than actually liking him as a person. I’m almost 22 now a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:17 AM
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Men who date women and purposefully lead them on while only wanting sex, while knowing full well the woman isn’t looking for just a hookup. This is scarily common, there are men out there who will say and do anything that will get a woman into bed. Most woman have been experienced and man making them believe they are dating and there’s a possibility of a relationship for the woman to sleep with them, only to reveal after sex they only ever wanted sex. This unsurprisingly makes women far less tru…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:10 AM
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You have to be an absolute imbecile to believe that by giving money to a twitch streamer you have a chance with them. It’s just natural selection at that point. The twitch streamers aren’t promising these men anything. It’s obviously more amoral to purposely give a woman you know in real life a different idea than your true intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:02 AM
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Yeah, I have quite a few male friends, I also have a boyfriend so they know 100% that there’s no chance of us being together and we’ve never had that sort of chemistry/ even if they’ve considered it they know full well by now that we’d never work as a couple. I don’t view them as ‘less than’ my bf in the same way I don’t view my female friends as less than him. We just simply have a different relationship than what I have with my bf, that fact that they also have a penis doesn’t change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 04:00 AM
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No, part of what makes me fall for someone is that they show interest in me, I wouldn’t see them as a potential romantic partner if I had to compete for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/21 03:26 AM
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The perpetrator is always to blame??? It’s literally their actions and their choice
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/21 11:52 PM
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I hate when a female action/adventure character is cold, humourless and has zero weakness or anything that makes her human. I like action characters who are funny, have realistic flaws and friends, a love interest that she doesn’t immediately push away cause she’s too cold and focused.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/21 08:42 AM
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It honestly depends on how they take it and get back up from it. No one is immune to failure even the most successful of us. It’s only a true failure if it isn’t taken as a lesson and someone doesn’t fully move past it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 08:27 AM
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Trust me, a very very small minority of woman is actively going out with a man knowing that she’s not his first option. Even if the man is very attractive, knowing that you’re just for sex and that you’re not a priority is a huge turn of for women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 08:00 AM
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It wasn’t just “boredom” though, the book goes into detail about the failures of the marriage. I’ve actually been told by a couple of my friends that they hated their mothers for divorcing their dads when they were kids because they perceived him to be the “fun” and “cool, chill” parent. As they got older they understood that the reason their mother divorced their father is because he avoided the responsibilities of parenting them both financially and fathering, which left the mother stressed ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 02:08 PM
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I don’t think either should be celebrated or villanised. People leave their partners and get divorced everyday for a multitude of reasons. Getting separated isn’t avoiding responsibilities, your partner isn’t your responsibility, children are your responsibility. I don’t think that was the point of the book/film, the husband isn’t painted as a bad character, it’s just implied the marriage wasn’t working and no one was solely at fault. It was about her travels and what she learnt from them etc. s…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 01:50 PM
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To be fair, eat pray love is widely criticised as a privileged fantasy and self indulgent. In real life the woman got the book deal before she went on the trip. That’s how it was paid for. Also, if there’s no kids involved I don’t really see how going on a trip after a divorce is avoiding responsibilities?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 10:53 AM
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I am about a 6-7 in looks and I don’t care that much about social media. I post maybe 5 photos a year on Instagram. I’m not just playing devil’s advocate, I think you’re not giving people enough credit. Everyone is much deeper and more introspective than their surface. I can’t name one person I’ve actually gotten to know properly who wasn’t more complicated than their surface or social media. It’s easy to view Instagram and all social media as a representation of the average person but it’s made…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 09:14 AM
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Honestly, I don’t understand the height thing. As a woman who is very short (5ft) I can literally not tell the difference in terms of a couple of inches. A 5’9 man could tell me he’s 6ft and I would believe him and also not care if he wasn’t. I’ve dated some pretty awful men that made me question my own sanity and verbally abuse me. I’ve dated a man who couldn’t communicate his feelings and one day out of the blue broke it off with me. Once you actually start dating and have experienced some awf…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 04:59 AM
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Yes, cause they’re celebrities, duh! I think this goes without saying for everyone including men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 04:48 AM
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I also have lovely female friends who are virgins in their mid 20’s, and my mum had a close friend who was a virgin until she was 35. I do think it has a lot to do with them letting opportunities slip them by because they’re actually quite scared. Or having this subconscious impenetrable wall up so people perceive them as not being “open” to opportunities and dismiss them. I know much more unattractive women than them who have had bf’s and sex but they have more openness to experiences. I think …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 02:59 AM
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Yeah that’s more a individual based thing than a gender based thing tho. Ever heard of a trophy wife/gf?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 02:39 AM
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Literally what modern man in their right mind wants a woman who is completely submissive, uneducated, with no career? Probably a socially inept creep, who doesn’t view women as humans tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 03:57 AM
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I talked about my n count with my current boyfriend because I wanted to know how sexually experienced he was. He told me his number and he didn’t even ask mine but I told him anyway since mine was the same number as his. They honestly don’t care, if a man likes you for you, why would he care who you’ve previously had sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 03:55 AM
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Exactly. They’re very un-self aware. They believe that since they have all convened together on a subreddit, that this is how every man thinks and goes through. They think because they may be average looking that they deserve an average looking woman. They don’t stop to consider the qualities about themselves that can’t be measured but aren’t average (or normal) like their lack of social skills, personality, empathy, hobbies, their self-obsession. That turns women (and people) off them. Even if …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 03:49 AM
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Men in the real world don’t view women as an abstract concept since they actually have friendships/relationships with women and understand that every woman is a unique individual with individual desires, values and traits. Basically, they see women as humans like them except of the opposite gender, unlike men in TRP who often dehumanise women and generalise them as a collective as something to be understood, controlled and possessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/21 03:39 AM
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It’s how women who are completely out of touch with reality and are un-self aware think. Similar to the TRP men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 08:52 AM
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As a female, hell no! The shit they post is so out of touch. It’s like saying that most men think the way TRP men do. It’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 08:50 AM
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There’s a misconception that bigger=better sex, but there is definitely such thing as too big. As a short woman, sex can be painful if you and your partner don’t “fit”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 08:48 AM
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Yeah but who wants to do a LTR? Especially in these times.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 12:18 AM
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I don’t think modern women are any pickier than they have always been. Usually the women that are single in their 40’s-45’s are the low quality women who couldn’t keep a bf or husband anyway. That’s nothing new we just see them more because social media gives them an outlet. Social media is not a good representation of the average woman since most of the women who go viral on it use it so much because they’re overshares, exhibisionists and insecure and like the attention social media gives them …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/21 02:23 AM
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Women have always been the pickier sex since were the evolutionary selectors. If you look at it biologically it makes sense since women have far greater reproductive costs. It’s seen in most other organisms too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 02:43 PM
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If you read the data table it shows that there’s not a huge discrepancy between men and women’s sexual activity. Certainly not what people who believe in 80/20 make out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 02:36 PM
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Sure, I agree that good looking men, on average, have more sex with a wider range of partners, and women are pickier with who they sleep with and are more likely to seek a committed relationship with men at an earlier age. But the 90/10 or 80/20 "rule" is only applied to online dating, which makes sense since online dating is a highly visual and shallow medium, and women are naturally pickier with who they date/have sex with. It doesn't have any validity in the real world or is consistent with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 11:11 AM
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Haha same
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 09:01 AM
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Yes, although I don’t think it was “real” love. I ended up on this page out of morbid curiosity, I like hearing peoples differing views even if I don’t agree and am interested in the debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 08:59 AM
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Since I’m usually the one who is asked on dates and distrustful of men’s intentions. Effort to me means showing interest in the form of planning a romantic date and showing interest by asking questions, offering to drop me home etc. It doesn’t necessarily mean paying. Once I’m sure of a guy and we’re properly an item, I begin planning our dates and insist on splitting the bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 08:57 AM
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Men and women are even-handed but we’re not the same. When it comes to courtship and dating there are still differences in how we court each other. Men still are the ones who predominantly chase women, which makes sense from a biological standpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 08:49 AM
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One thing I will say you’ve got wrong is that this isn’t a new phenomenon of feminine traits being undervalued. This is the entire reason that the feminist movement started in the first place. Women wanted equal rights to vote and to have the opportunity to work and be respected in society beyond their ability to procreate. I do think that certain feminine traits women (on average) predominantly possess over men can be beneficial in a capitalist society. A higher eq and communication skills are …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 08:27 AM
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Bit of a generalisation, also where’s your source?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 08:09 AM
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Yeah it’s unfortunate that the more “feminine” careers such as nursing, teaching, childcare etc just aren’t as rewarded in a capitalist society. It’s why many intelligent women are currently pursuing careers in stem and business that are historically male dominated fields and they feel like they need to sacrifice their femininity to be respected. It’s why I love the movie legally blonde lol. That movie actually tackles a lot of the issues of modern feminism. How she navigates not sacrificing her…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 02:49 AM
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Yeah they may look at them positively in they way that feminine traits benefit them. But do they respect them? Hell no! They think masculine traits are fundamentally better and to be more valued/respected
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/21 02:40 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 10:37 AM
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Not necessarily, this research article concluded that humans became monogamist as early as 4 million years ago. Basically we’re monogamous with polygamous tendencies. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2833377/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 05:03 AM
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Exactly, I think it also comes from TRP men seeing feminine traits as being fundamentally worse than masculine ones. I also think society as a whole (including feminism) often devalues traditionally feminine hobbies and skills as being frivolous and silly and shallow. If a women is interested in fashion and makeup, she’s viewed as materialistic. If a man is interested in cars and designer sneakers, it’s not. If a woman is good at keeping a tidy home, cooking and gardening etc. it’s not as respec…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 03:39 AM
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I know anecdotal evidence isn’t necessarily strong evidence but I’ve seen enough together, attractive women date complete losers to know that not ALL women are hypergamous. I think some women love being caretakers/the more together one in the relationship and have the “I can change him” mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 03:21 AM
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Because 1) humans are Biologically monogamist creatures 2) love is a real and comes from having a strong connection with someone, that’s why breakups are so hard 3) humans are empathetic and most of us don’t want to hurt the ones we love
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 03:17 AM
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I’d rather be single forever than ever be with my ex again. Sometimes a life of singles on is better than being with a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 05:25 AM
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What you’re not acknowledging is that a lot of women get played by men. Men know that women want commitment so they string us along and lie to make us think they want a relationship. Then when sleep with them, suddenly they ghost. It makes us harden and less likely to trust and be intimate without proof of effort or that they truely respect us.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 09:13 AM
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Lol my eldest brother is disabled not me
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 02:14 AM
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Ikr! It’s insane, I have no idea how I’ll ever be able to afford to own a home in my city
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 03:28 PM
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I think that it’s just a case of inflation. 50,000 may be equivalent to a 80,000 salary depending on where you live etc
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 03:22 PM
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I do! The housing market is insane! My parents bought their house for 700k in 1998 and currently the house is now worth 5 million.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 03:17 PM
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Honestly I forgot what we were even discussing in the first place lol I have adhd, it makes it difficult for me to stay on track when it comes to conversations
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 01:53 PM
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Maybe it’s because I was raised in a fairly wealthy suburb and privately educated/have a good career ahead of me, but I personally will not compromise for a man who only earns $50,000. If I’m going to birth children and raise a family I want a financially stable man. This is not an unreasonable expectation from women, I’m 21, still an undergrad but my part time job earns me 62,000 a year. I have put effort/debt into my further education to ensure that I am on track to earning 125,000 salary by t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 01:49 PM
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The catch is they’re much harder to find/ask out. You’ll have to meet them irl which is difficult in covid times also, asking a woman out in person! Even as a woman I can acknowledge that sounds insanely nerve racking. Another factor is these women probably think they’re undesirable since they don’t get as much dates as their friends who do use OLD. They don’t know how to respond to male attention/flirting since they’re inexperienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 01:39 PM
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I think we’re miscommunicating each other’s tone, I’m not trying to challenge everything you’re saying
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 01:29 PM
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True! I’m not arguing with you btw
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 01:27 PM
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I hate to sound internally misogynistic but OLD attracts low value women. Our mothers (definitely my mum) thinks OLD is a horrendous concept. I personally think she has a point and have deleted my old profiles. There are still currently a lot of women out there, who are like our mothers and don’t use Old to find partners, but they just go unnoticed since they’re not as active on social media in general. Social media is not an accurate representation of the majority of men/women, it attracts the …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 01:10 PM

Thank you! I’ve put a lot of effort into loving and respecting myself this year and I think it’s manifested in the type of men I date now. I used to subconsciously date men with big red flags and issues because I think I subconsciously thought that it was was the only love I was capable or deserving of having. It’s a very new experience for me dating a man who is actually genuinely a very respectful and kind guy. I’ve never dated a man who was so open with his intentions and feelings towards me …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 01:01 PM
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I don’t necessarily think it’s a bad thing that people have more opinions nowadays. The idea of settling always leads to resentment, divorce and an unavoidable impact on the children.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 12:44 PM
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I think people aren’t static. They were probably at one point compatible but slowly grew apart as they matured.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 12:41 PM
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This is brutally honest but my mother is way out of my dad’s league. My mum is gorgeous, has amazing bone structure, she resembled Audrey Hepburn in her youth and even in her 60’s she is still kept her figure. She is very confident and intelligent amazingly eloquent. She is a positive person and has always been outgoing and easily makes friends easily. My father is a true gentleman, he’s just at his core a very decent, nice man. He is very reserved though and an anxious/socially awkward person. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 12:39 PM
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It think it helps in terms of asking questions and getting honest answers about what men and women truly want from dating and relationships. Things that aren’t always appropriate to overtly admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 09:57 AM
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I view this sub as more of a place to ask questions and find what the truth is when it comes to dating. A reddit sub is not going to change the entire culture of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 04:06 AM
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The pill
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 10:28 PM
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I just mean that if you think it’s something that will never really change then what’s the point in concerning yourself with it. I’ve recently decided that There’s no much point in putting much thought or energy into things that won’t change.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 09:58 PM
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That sounds honestly horrendous lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 09:54 PM

Sure, but where is this magical perfect 10 gonna appear from?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 02:38 PM
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Well if you believe the dynamic doesn’t work then what are you complaining about? Why bring it up?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 02:37 PM
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Thank you! :))
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 02:25 PM

I’ve only had two LTR’s the other two were guys I dated for about a month, lol and of course the fuck boy. I went on a date with the guy tonight and we did “seal the deal” I’m seeing him Saturday and meeting his friends. He admitted he really likes me, and I like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 02:23 PM

Well we just got back from our date tonight and all I’m going to say is none of this matters anymore… I’m seeing him Saturday.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 02:16 PM
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Yes! Idc about a fancy restaurant or how much you pay, I want romance, I’d prefer a cute date idea over an expensive one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 05:15 AM
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I was just suggesting a good date idea that doesn’t involve money. If you don’t want to do that then don’t. The reality is women get asked out more than men, so if you’re not going to put in the effort then there will be someone else out there who believes she’s worth it and will.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 05:14 AM
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True, I don’t think there is a “golden” number of dates when sex should happen, I think it should just happen when it feels right.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 05:08 AM
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True. I see no problem with it/ would never judge someone for liking casual sex, it it’s just not for me. I do low key think women in general have a lower libido than men but that’s a generalisation libido is different for every individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 05:05 AM
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But it could be in the future? now that women have the opportunity to earn as much as men, they can become stay at home husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 03:25 AM
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What? I still need money! If I got fired tomorrow I’d have to find a new job even if I hated it. I don’t have a man in my life who I can financially rely on I’m only 21 im not even close to the age of marriage. Even if I did I’d hate to rely on a man for financial security I’d want my own money that I can spend freely.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 12:23 AM
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Well I studied a university degree in a field I was actually interested in (science) and currently work for a private company which provides bioremediation services, which is something I’m actually passionate about. So I wouldn’t consider myself a “wage slave”. A lot of the work is mundane but sometimes it can really interesting and I find it fulfilling.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 12:14 AM
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I work because I have to, I need money to survive. I don’t find it “exciting” Work is work. but I do find it overall fulfilling.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 12:03 AM
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Working sucks, do doubt, but I couldn’t imagine anything worse than getting married very young and relying on my husband for money. There’s no freedom in that. Imagine that being your lot in life. It sounds boring. Sure work is challenging but challenge is part of what makes life and it’s experiences fulfilling. That being said, I don’t judge people who marry young, or women who want to be a stay at home mother. I’d love to be a mother one day and I think it’s by no means an easy job.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:57 PM
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This is becoming less and less true though with each new generation. Women are becoming more financially independent and are currently slightly outnumbering men in university. Back as soon as the 80’s it wasn’t the norm for women to get tertiary education as much as it is now. Or if they did it was normal for them to get married at as early as 23 and abandon their careers Statistics are showing that the young generation of women are increasingly entering jobs in high paid career fields and in ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:41 PM
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He’s not model hot or shredded (I’m not that into the shredded look) but he’s attractive in an surfer dude kinda way. I can appreciate really attractive dudes but it’s not a huge priority for me. I’d rather a really lovely dude who is good company but more in the norm of attractiveness than a 10/10 who has the personality of a boiled egg lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:02 PM
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It definitely still is, I listen to Taylor swift on the daily and still believe there’s “the one” out there for me lol. I’m am more realistic and rational now when It comes to dating and relationships. Like less trusting at first and more adept at reading red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:46 PM
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There are men who will behave as if they want a relationship with a woman because they know it will get her into bed. I had it happen to me once when I was more naive, the guy was talking about going away together and acted really into me far beyond a hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:32 PM
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https://www.5lovelanguages.com It’s a great way to understand what Makes you and your partner give and wish to receive love.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:20 PM
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I wanna know what your deal is and why you were asking so many questions about my dating life and think because I’m not sleeping with him I’m “using up his money time and resources” but based on your posts i can see you’re just unhappy with your own situation and projecting it onto me
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 10:16 PM
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Coming from a man in his mid 30’s who’s wife doesn’t want to have sex with him and is so invested in the dating life of a 21 year old stranger he continuously comments under her posts… yeah I’ll stick with her advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 05:30 PM
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I honestly don’t know what you want from me dude. That’s why I’m asking questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 05:10 PM
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What? What else was I supposed to say? I wasn’t comfortable with having sex and I let him know why. He said he agreed that he was fine with waiting. It’s not like I stopped him from giving me his own expectations. Why should I have made it a conversation? I needed to let him know I wasn’t comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 05:05 PM
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If you’re saying it’s bad advice then I 100% know it’s good advice lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 04:44 PM
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of course I explained why! I didn’t just “pull away” from him and leave things awkward. I said that cause it’s only the second date maybe we should slow things down. I do hope he isn’t thinking like that but it’s not like the date finished then and there we hung out after too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 04:37 PM
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Late in the game? Not really these days. Marriage is a huge commitment I don’t think it’s a bad idea to wanna be as mature and financially stable as possible before marriage. Even if I wanted to at this age, what guy in their early 20’s wants to get married?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 04:30 PM
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You literally wrote “you” twice in that reply to me. Why are you using my comments as a jumping point for your whining about “women nowadays”?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 04:24 PM
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And honestly, isn’t that fucked up? If you’re not looking for a relationship then why not just be forward on the first meetup that you’re only looking for a hookup. No one forced you to continually date her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 04:19 PM
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I’ve been in LTR’s before…they usually start with dates. I just think it’s screwed up that you think that dating is “using up his time, energy and resources”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 04:13 PM
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Not having sex too soon weeds out the men who are only in it for sex. I know I have much more to offer than just sex
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 04:10 PM
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“Using up his time energy and resources” is that what relationships are to you? Just a transaction? Have you never been in a LTR before? Believe it or not some people actually enjoy each other’s company. Also idk why you’re equating sex as the only measure of if a woman is into a man or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 04:07 PM
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Why are you so bitter towards me? I even said myself I think the paying for dates thing is outdated. It’s not like I demand them to pay or don’t offer to just split. I’m not the source or controller of all dating conventions. Why does it bother you so much if some guy insisted on paying for a simple date with me. If that’s not what you want to do, don’t pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 04:01 PM
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Wdym? What is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 03:54 PM
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Well that’s just not true, the timing just didn’t feel right for me. It felt rushed. Doesn’t mean I don’t want to do it with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 03:54 PM
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I’ve been on two dates with this guy. We’re still getting to know each other. How would that conversation even naturally come about? “Hey just so you know, I like X in bed” lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 03:51 PM
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In a LTR? Usually we just split it and pay for ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 03:44 PM
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Not yet but we’ve got a date planned tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 03:41 PM
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This whole study is pointless. They could’ve just written, “when people see their friends as potential threats to their reproductive success, they will not hesitate to subtly put them down.” Uhh no shit. Most people know this by the age of 16. I’ve witnessed it between my female friends who were after the same guy. Heck even I’ve behaved in ways I’m not proud of when I was a teen and my friend and I liked the same guy. Just watch mean girls, it’s a great satire about the reality of the nuisances…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 03:40 PM
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You’re wording an opinion as if it’s fact
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 03:13 PM
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Idk are plenty of secretly kinky couples out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 03:09 PM
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I’m going to be honest I think the reality is that what gets women in the mood with their partner is less about appearance and more about specific romantic gestures that trigger her deepest desire from a partner. Ever heard of the 5 love languages? Find out what her particular love language is. For some it’s acts of service, like doing something unprompted that alleviates pressure off her. For some it’s physical touch, not necessarily sexual, it could be holding her hand in public or giving her …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 03:07 PM
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sure, everyone has their cross, but I do consider myself lucky that my parents are still together and I never witnessed domestic violence growing up. It's actually well studied that domestic violence is intergenerational.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 11:26 AM
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Personally, it would make me less interested cause I’m not attracted to the idea of competing with women for a guy’s attention, even if they weren’t around him at that time. Maybe some women would like the challenge though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 01:50 AM
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Ugh that’s so true! I always fall for love bombing. It’s what a lot of narcissists use to manipulate. There’s a psychological opponent to it, people love to feel valued and special. They think because you are so much more into them than other people have been it must mean you are meant for each other. Sometimes I get so confused when men on this sub will listen to any theory about what women want, except from actual women. They just assume we’re lying. Also a lot of men use the excuse “well wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 01:08 AM
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Well to be honest, I wasn’t on any OLD and actually wasn’t prioritising dating for a while when he asked me out. I thought “why not” since we had mutual friends. I get what you mean it’s definitely socially conditioned that men are the ones who ask women out and plan the dates, it’s a bit old fashioned. In my LTR’s after about the 3rd date the pay is split. Once I’m in an LTR It does become more equal ground where sometimes I will suggest and plan. It also becomes more of a conversation, “nah I …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 12:53 AM
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Yes! I think that comes down to actually showing interest in your date. Not just sexually. I hate when I’m on a date and the guy never asks me a question about myself and instead talks about himself the whole time or tries to “play it cool” and I have to lead the conversation. Psychologically, we’re wired to like people who like us. Idk why people think that acting disinterested is a good strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 12:42 AM
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https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2378023121996854 You got me curious about how common casual sex actually is. Turns out casual sex overall, is declining.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 12:37 AM
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That’s fair enough, but you’re the one who tried to claim I was being false about my friends not. Like attracts like so that’s probably why. I usually assume that every man I’ve dated have had casual sex before. I don’t really care either way tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 12:32 AM
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Well he was the one who initially asked me out. I thought he seemed like a decent guy but I didn’t have the romantic feelings before we got to know each other that he had for me. That’s different now that I know him better. I think the responsibility to plan, organise and pay for dates should come from the one who has asked the other out, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 12:29 AM
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Yeah I get you on some grounds it’s very difficult to actually have 100% financial freedom unless you’re in the top earners. But my point is the wage gap is closing and financially, women and men are becoming on the same level. Back as soon as the 70’s women felt more pressure to settle down because their career and money earning potential was significantly lower then men’s and not enough to support themselves. Doesn’t mean they didn’t necessarily love their husbands. Women once went straight fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 12:23 AM
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Does it make a difference if things slowly escalate? Like you kiss in the first date, have a make out sesh on the second?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 12:09 AM
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I always had this theory. That In some ways it doesn’t matter because if a guy just see’s you as a hookup you can wait as long as you like he won’t change his mind. At the same time if a guy really likes a girl and sees her as relationship material it makes no difference if she sleeps on the first date, he’ll still plan another date cause he actually likes her. Women can put men in the “friend zone” but men can put women in the “casual hookup” zone. Am I correct or am I slightly off about some o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 12:06 AM
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Dude stop projecting. Some of the guys I mentioned actually were LTR’s except the one who was a fuckboy who ghosted. For all my past LTR’s and sexual encounters ( which is 5) I waited between 2-4 dates to sleep with them. “2-12 months”!! God no I’m a red blooded woman who is actually attracted to this man. I literally only wrote this post cause I’m considering doing it with him on our 3rd date and was about to on our 2nd but I’m wondering if it’s too soon cause my previous LTR’s escalated too so…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:59 PM
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The guy I’m dating took me on a romantic picnic in a park facing the harbour. It was 10x better than any expensive date at a restaurant and allowed us to relax and felt more intimate. I think girls think that they want an expensive fancy restaurant because they think the more expensive the more he values her. but depending on where you live there are so many romantic dates that don’t involve spending money. If you find a girl who isn’t shallow or materialistic this shit can sweep her off her fee…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:35 PM
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Yeah, I do actually agree with you. This is the purple pill sub after all though so I was just looking at it in from a overly rational, pessimistic and possibly wrong perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:27 PM
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I definitely see/understand that. I think it’s messed up how society shames men if their virgins or “not getting any” and simultaneously shames women for being “easy” or sleeping around. Women don’t get shamed in the same way for being virgins, and get seen as noble for not sleeping around. Yet men get shamed for being virgins and congratulated for sleeping around. It’s all just messed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:23 PM
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How are you supposed to know someone without dates though? Not many people can jump into bed with someone they’ve never been on a proper date/hangout with and have it somehow lead to love.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:18 PM
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Like I explained about my experience with the fuckboy, I was too naive and inexperienced to realise that there are men out there who will say anything to get you into bed. Including making you believe that they actually like you. When I was 19 I was a hopeless romantic and used to believe everything a guy said at face value. No one likes to be used. Waiting to get intimate weeds out the guys who are just going to use you as a new notch on their bedpost. I think if I waited longer he would’ve giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:15 PM
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If the relationship isn’t right, at least I’ve learnt more about what it means to be in a relationship and each relationship I’ve had has been a bit better than the past one because I’m more experienced. I know how to choose a partner better.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:07 PM
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I’m kinda a serial monogamist I’ve dated guy for about a year another for 6 months and the other for 2 months. Each relationship has taught me things about what I want in a partner and how I should treat my partner. Also I just love being in love if that makes sense lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:05 PM
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The guy that was verbally abusive to me was by no means a very attractive guy. I didn’t care back then but I remember my brother telling me “he’s not even good looking” and friends asking me what I saw in him that made it okay for him to treat me so bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:00 PM
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Thats another thing I hate about their ideology. The guy I’m dating is good looking to me but by no means what incels would call a “chad”. I like him cause he’s funny and interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:57 PM
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Idc about some statistics you may have found or just made up. I know more than you do about me and my friends. Why would I lie about my friends sex lives anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:53 PM
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Abusiveness is usually multi-generational. They perceive it as normal because it’s how they grew up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 04:22 PM
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People end up with Abusers because it’s what they think they deserve or is all they know
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 04:18 PM
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Spideysenses?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 04:18 PM
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No, but I do believe our true nature and values definitely shine through no matter how much we try and conceal it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 04:14 PM
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Yeah but what would I get out of a FWB situation? I’m not a man I don’t value sex that much lol. Sex is only worth personally if there’s emotional intimacy involved. Low key I think FWB isn’t as common as people online will make you think. None of my friends have had a FWB.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 04:12 PM
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Guys that actually have real relationships or friendships with women don’t talk how you talk
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 04:06 PM
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Huh? Do you mind rewording that, I’m confused about how it relates to my previous comment
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 04:05 PM
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I agree there. But a couple of other commenters have bought this up. They dislike that “she didn’t make other dudes wait” but my question is how do you know she didn’t??
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 04:02 PM
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But like how would he know how long she made other dudes wait?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 03:58 PM
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You don’t get a lot of pussy don’t you
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 03:57 PM
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I guess just how to avoid being written off or disrespected as just a hook up
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 03:56 PM
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What other dudes tho? Who on earth is sharing their dating history with their new partners that freely to the point where you’re even discussing the number of dates it took before you slept w them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 03:54 PM
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This whole mindset/anxiety that many women have stems from the fact that many men have admitted to not respecting a woman if she sleeps with him too soon or thinking she’s sleeping with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 03:51 PM
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I agree it’s all based on chemistry
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 03:27 PM
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Lol yes I posted here cause I wanted to hear all the opinions haha the sexiest incel stuff, the honest stuff the sugarcoated stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 03:27 PM
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Muh equal dishes??
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 03:25 PM
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A year! Damn
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 03:11 PM
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Cause he enjoys her company? And is looking for love?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 03:08 PM
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I definitely don’t see sex as transactional, but I do think a level of trust has to be earned before I have sex because it’s very intimate and I want to avoid being hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 03:06 PM
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Our 3rd date will be within 1.5 weeks of our first so like, clearly I don’t have time to be seeing another dude lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 03:04 PM
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3 months! I mean I’m not promiscuous by any means but I’m also a red blooded female who is usually attracted to the men I’m dating! How can they keep their hands to themselves? Why would they do that to themselves!?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 03:02 PM
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I did! I said maybe we should slow things down a bit and he was chill and respectful with it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 03:00 PM
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Oh wait I think I misinterpreted ur comment lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 02:55 PM
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I’m straight lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 02:55 PM
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All the people who subscribe to those red pill ideas have fallen into that ideology because they got hurt by women in some way or another and they believe this personal experience is the norm, because they have all found a sub to affirm each other. I’ve been badly hurt by men before, doesn’t mean I’m going to join a misandrist sub and claim all men are inherently violent and abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 02:33 PM
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Yeah I did say to him I don’t want to have sex just yet and he was cool with it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 01:35 PM
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I’m only 21 though, I’m not thinking in terms of marriage and engagement yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 01:34 PM
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That’s probably true, I want kids but I want to be able to give them the best life possible, so maybe two or three max.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 01:32 PM
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I think that all romantic love should be conditional tbh. It’s unhealthy to love your partner unconditionally, that’s a recipe for an abusive relationship. I’ve definitely became a man hater at one point. I’ve been hurt by men, I narrowly avoided a physically abusive relationship, but I still think about the painful insults he hurled at me once when I wouldn’t give him my prescription add medication or when he made me cry on my birthday dinner after calling my arms chubby. The truth is though, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 01:27 PM
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Well I’m gonna be honest this 100% doesn’t apply to me. My body count is 5, three were LTR’s. I had one experience with a fuckboy and boy did It suck! I now stear clear of any guy who is just looking for casual sex. I personally don’t get anything out of it but feeling used. I like this guy and we have sexual tension, I could never imagine waiting months for sex with a guy I trust and am dating. I just didn’t wanna screw it up by having sex on the second date.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 01:06 PM
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There’s definitely sexual tension between my date and I, I just knew in my gut the second date was too soon
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 12:59 PM
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But what if the woman is also average? Maybe she chose him because she actually just truely likes him and believes they’re compatible?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 12:21 PM
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Oh god not the warning before I could open it lol. I already really don’t agree with it. “Women’s love is never unconditional” I know men who subscribe to this idea are gonna blow me off as lying. but fuck it, all my love in my previous relationships was dangerously unconditional. My first boyfriend was verbally abusive, extremely tight with his money, not the best looking, an addict, he offered me nothing but occasional love and companionship. Yet it took my family having an intervention for me…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 12:14 PM
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I feel like it’s a very vocal minority tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:44 AM
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Imo I think the child free movement (that I’ve only really encountered on the internet tbh) isn’t necessarily connected to political stance. Also if you want to be child free doesn’t that mean zero kids not just one?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:44 AM
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I get what you’re saying though, it depends on how much you actually like the girl in the first place I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:39 AM
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Yeah I do actually feel like this guy won’t care, he’s extremely kind, accommodating and despite being a confident dude, he’s admitted he gets flustered around me which is something I’ve never experienced before. I’ve only ever dated fuck boys, self-important guys who never asked me questions about myself or straight up walking red flags lol. So I’m wary of not getting hurt, like I have in the past. I also really don’t wanna screw this up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:38 AM
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I feel like ask men would be more likely to say “it doesn’t matter, whenever you feel is right” which is partially true. Whereas here I get the full spectrum of honest opinions, sexist opinions and just more range I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:28 AM
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So many mixed comments. Some men here are saying if she has sex on the first date she’s likely doing it with other men and therefore not relationship material.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:04 AM
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We met about a month ago through mutual friends
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:02 AM
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Horizontal?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:38 AM
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Haha I was dumb when it came to dating back then. I used to be a naive hopeless romantic who believed everything a guy said was the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:38 AM
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This may sound cheesy, but men who are happily in love with their longterm girlfriend who is perfectly compatible with them. These people are usually the happiest. “Playing the field” is overrated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:35 AM
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Oh yeah for sure, he played me hard, spoke about us going away together, sweet talked me. there were red flags though, he had a fuck boy vibe and social media. I think that if I waited longer he would’ve given up though and I wouldn’t of have given him what he wanted out of me. But you live and you learn I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:30 AM
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I mean, 3 months is a lot! I don’t consider myself particularly promiscuous or a prude but usually by like the 5 date you must know and trust them by then. like, what’s the wait? Isn’t the whole reason you’re dating someone because you’re attracted to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:23 AM
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Wow okay, that is a long time but to each their own. Are you religious?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:17 AM
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Fair enough, I’m getting very different responses. There’s definitely no universal ideal amount of time, it all just depends I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:15 AM
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Oh for sure, I just don’t want to be in a position where I have to wonder if because I did it too soon, it might’ve ruined it? Now that I’m actually writing it out tho I realise it’s bs lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:14 AM
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This is tmi but I feel like oral is in some ways more intimate than sex, idk why.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:12 AM
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Ahh okay, you actually explained it quite well. If I was a dude I can see why it would bother me. It must feel kinda like you’re being treated like the safe bet and put in the relationship box but not the fun sex type. When really, why can’t you be both? I guess the only female equivalent I can think of is when women are in a situation-ship with a guy, who has had relationships in the past, but gets treated as the casual sex type and not the serious girlfriend type.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:10 AM
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Agreed! Even though casual sex isn’t my thing, I can’t stand when people judge women for having sex for the enjoyment of sex. That being said, it’s not just women who shame them, I mean just read some of the comments under this post. Btw when I mentioned “earning” I didn’t necessarily mean paying for things, more like earning her trust etc. I agree the whole idea of men having to pay for dates is outdated. I feel weird when men insist on paying, I always offer to split it. Honestly, I’m just loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 09:29 AM
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No thank you! Haha
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 09:21 AM
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I feel like I’m getting so many mixed messages from friends, parents, social media, the men on here etc But yeah you’re right the right time is when it feels right.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 09:20 AM
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Okay maybe I am a lil vanilla hahaha But that’s not necessarily a bad thing right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 08:54 AM
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That’s good advice! When I truely feel a close connection it will feel right and I’ll know.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 08:52 AM
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I can see that, being child free is more of a liberal idea than a traditional conservative one. but is there a common theme of liberals only wanting one child?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 08:51 AM
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Doesn’t “for the streets” mean slut tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 08:46 AM
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I’m 100% sure. We tell each other everything cause we all know we would never judge each other if we did. Were just more interested in love and relationships than meaningless sex. Also sex with strangers is dangerous, especially for a female. I don’t see any value in casual sex, it sounds low key scary, but I don’t judge others who do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 08:45 AM
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Yeah I think guys like the chase a bit and the more he has to earn her to more he will feel like he’s achieved something when it does happen, she is something to be valued etc
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 08:40 AM
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I’m actually just curious in general, I’m not interested in rushing it. More just wondering if there is this golden number of dates. (Which I’m guessing isn’t real) i wanna know if it changes how men think of the girl/relationship. No, he’s no player I’ve heard from friends he’s a genuinely decent guy. We had a moment where we were making out and he was about to take off my top but I pulled back and said maybe we should slow things down. He was really chill and respectful about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 08:37 AM
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Haha I’m guessing that most men won’t turn down sex on the first date but I’m assuming it does change the way they view them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 08:28 AM
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Maybe it’s just my friendship circle but the vast majority of my friends aren’t into casual sex or sex on the first date…except a couple of my guy friends lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 08:26 AM
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That’s very true. What’s a preference you see commonly in women that you don’t understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 08:24 AM
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Is three dates considered too soon? I mean we spent 7 hours together on our last date and we have a genuine connection and mutual friends. But idk I guess if the opportunity presents itself and it feels right.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 08:22 AM
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I’ve never been the type to put out early cause I need the emotional connection before I get intimate. I have one regret when I was 19, when I did it on the second date. But how would a guy ever even know? It’s not typically something that comes up in conversation. Is it just based on how she comes across?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 08:18 AM
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Fair enough, I think it’s in some ways it’s understandable that once a man truely loves and respects a woman he will find it difficult to treat her roughly. I never understood the appeal of the “rough sex” kink, personally. But from what I’ve heard online at least, it’s semi common.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 08:11 AM
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I’m honestly just curious about the mentality behind it. I guess as a woman I’ll never understand it though. Dw you didn’t offend me, I know I’m relationship material, I’ve always been a serial monogamist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 08:02 AM
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I’m not trying to minimise it, I know it’s simply a psychological drive men subconsciously have. And yes there is the point about not wanting a promiscuous or impulsive mother which is fair. What I’m saying is that it can often negatively affect marriages or LTR’s that once a man sees their partner as a “Madonna” he can lose sexual interest in her. And like the story you were explaining, seek their “whore” elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:57 AM
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I just find that the strangest thing tbh, like why? Is it an ego thing? Do you think it means she finds you less attractive? To be fair I was only 19 when that happened and I’ve been in LTR’s since so say what you like but I don’t think it makes me not relationship material lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:51 AM
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I know his friends, they all say he’s a decent dude, would never screw a girl over etc. No, he’s not dating anyone else. Apparently he’s pretty into me cause he thinks I’m out of his league (I don’t lol).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:47 AM
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You are definitely not relationship material lol. I once slept with a guy on the second date but he ghosted me after it so I’ve learnt from that experience. A lot of dating is trial and error. If a woman wants to wait it’s likely because she actually really likes a guy and doesn’t want to screw it up by sleeping with a guy too early. Also is it really that insulting that you may have to wait a couple more dates more than some mistake she once made in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:43 AM
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Honestly, Jordan Peterson talks about it too. It’s a very real phenomenon. I wish that instead of women having to be wary of it and play into the narrow archetypes men would just realise women are complex beings who enjoy sex but can also be nurturing mothers and career women. But tis life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:37 AM
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I love that! I wish I could adopt that mentality but unfortunately I’ve been burned. Even my best friend who has a higher body count than me told me I should wait a while before sleeping with a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:33 AM
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Really? In what sense? Any wisdom you have to impart?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:30 AM
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I feel like if a guy doesn’t have a big Madonna whore complex he must still be able to value a woman as relationship material even if she’s had sex on the third date.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:28 AM
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There must be an amount of dates where it starts to get weird that nothing sexual has progressed though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:27 AM
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Yeah that’s my fear. I had a guy who I slept w on the second date. His whole demeanour changed after. I just knew he wasn’t going to plan a third date. To be fair tho that guy had major red flags
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:25 AM
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Yeah dw I won’t take this advice. I’m someone who needs emotional connection before I get intimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:24 AM
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I’ve been on two dates with the guy I’m not exactly planning my wedding yet 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:22 AM
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How? 😂 please explain I’m genuinely curious now
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:21 AM
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What do you mean by “no slower than the fastest she slept with a guy?”
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:19 AM
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Why did you link an article about tariffs? I don’t get the connection haha
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:19 AM
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Marriage?! I’m only 21! I don’t wanna get married til I’m 28 at the youngest. I just want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:17 AM
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I’m looking for a possible relationship, not just a hookup or fwb
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:16 AM
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I think you sent the wrong link lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:15 AM
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Yeah, he was really respectful about it too. He’s a genuinely decent guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:14 AM
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Yeah, true I’m under no delusion about that. I do think 8 dates is ALOT! I think anything more than 5 a guy will start to wonder if there’s something wrong. Especially my generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:13 AM
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Well we also like made out and got a lil handsy! I’m not vanilla I swear! Hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:09 AM
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Doesn’t that just mean shes not interested and is putting in it in a nice way? What makes her for the streets?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:05 AM
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I’m so confused? How are you having sex before you even have a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:03 AM
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Yeah I kinda think that if sex isn’t happening by the third date it can get too friendly instead of passionate, idk
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:02 AM
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I let him lean into the kiss each time but I let off “signals” like looking into his eyes and open body language that made him make a move.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:00 AM
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Ikr! I have heard so many mixed messages from friends, older women, podcasts and just media in general it makes it hard for me to trust my own gut.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 06:59 AM
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So if a woman sleeps with you on the 3rd instead of the 4th you consider her less relationship material? What changes?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 06:57 AM
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Imma be real, as a gen z I think 4 dates is low key too long. Especially since we’ve already made out. We’re both 21, I’m not sure I can wait for the forth haha
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 06:55 AM
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Thank god, I thought that sounded too long.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 06:53 AM
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Initiate like kiss?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 06:53 AM
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What’s ljbf?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 06:52 AM
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Yeah I don’t know a lot of women my age (early 20’s) who don’t want kids
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 06:43 AM
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All my close friends are liberals and we all want at least 2 kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 06:42 AM
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I was feeling it w this guy but I pulled back cause it was only our second date and idk I just thought I could possibly regret it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 06:41 AM
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I know unfortunately society just doesn’t work that way but men are the easiest lays why do they never get shamed for it hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 06:35 AM
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I went on my second date w a guy yesterday. He organised a picnic and picked me up. I ended up going back to his place cause I know his roommates, I didn’t sleep w him but we did make out. He drove me home around 11. I think we’ve got a pretty solid connection, we even meditated together lol. I’m wondering if the third date is not too soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 06:33 AM
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What’s a TRP man?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 06:27 AM
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I’m liberal but I want 3 kids at least. Also I took a big 5 personality test and I’m 90% agreeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 06:27 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 06:24 AM
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True. I was on a second date w a guy last night, we went to his place to hang w his roommates( who I know). Ended up just me and him in his room, one thing lead to another but I pulled back before he could take off my top cause a voice in my head told me I was being too easy. I’ve been burned in the past where a guy has ghosted me after I slept with him. I’m seeing him Wednesday night but idk if I made the right choice or I’m overthinking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 06:22 AM
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I don’t think it’s just the women getting fatter though the obesity epidemic is equal in both genders. Many men will disagree with this but I do think that the advancements and rise in popularity of cosmetic surgery is making women more attractive. I’m not talking about the overdone botched lips look, but the understated/undetectable filler that women are getting. It’s surprisingly more common than people realise. I know girls around my age (early 20’s) who have gotten injectables and they look …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 06:05 AM
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So true. Also just to feel good about ourselves and feel “polished”. I like getting my nails done cause I always feel cleaner and like I’ve got my life together when my nails are done lol, idk if that’s just a me thing. I like looking good sometimes even just for myself. Sometimes if I’m bored at home I’ll put on my nice dresses. I think I’m just vain but like, for myself, instead of just external validation lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 05:53 AM
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Hahhaha
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 12:37 AM
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I had this experience when I was 19 and new to dating. He was really good looking only 5’8 (which didn’t matter to me cause I’m 5ft). I was flattered he took so much interest in me and said I was gorgeous. Even though I could tell based on his social media he was a fuck boy, I ignored the red flags. He knew all the right things to say to get me into bed. He was even talking bs about going on a trip together. I regretted sleeping with him the second it was over and I just knew he was never going …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 11:52 PM
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Personally, if I see an exceptionally attractive man, out of my league, I’d probably not go for it. I’m not a fan of one night stands or casual sex. I’d rather go for someone who’s in my league and is interested in a date rather than a hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 11:36 PM
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What’s the plate zone?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 11:31 PM
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Sure, but that man in the top 5% will likely have high standards and depending on his age, is likely more interested in playing the field than settling down.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 11:29 PM
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She does have a point though. A lot of women’s refusal to settle can be attributed to the way that with each decade women require a man less and less for financial security. Currently, women are outnumbering men in universities and women and women being hired for high income jobs is increasing. However, historically, women’s value was based on their appearance, so there is a plethora of capitalist markets/culture built around ways to enhance women’s appearance in short term and permanent ways th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 11:24 PM
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That’s such an odd claim though how do you measure which men are in the top 5% of men? Even though it may be true that women fantasise about being in a relationship with an exceptionally attractive man, what does that have to do with women liking to “doll up” for male attention? Just because a woman has no intention of going home with a man who buys them a drink, doesn’t necessarily mean they find him undesirable, maybe they even exchange numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 11:06 PM
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This is bs, my close friends and I call each other out all the time. In a group setting? No. One on one? Yes. Men similarly won’t call each other put in a group setting. Also the “woman have to stick together” argument only comes up if men are involved in the disagreement, not in an all female group setting. Men also have the “stick to your gender”mentality too, I always hear guys saying “don’t dog the boys” etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 10:23 PM
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You do have a point there. I do think that some people are naturally more sure of themselves and their abilities than other people and don’t necessarily rely as much on external praise to validate themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 09:45 PM
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Haha maybe ur right. Yeah I agree, I’ve noticed in my LTR’s how my partner looks begins to matter less and less as time goes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 09:41 PM
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Haha I’ve had people ask me why I chose my username before, as if it has meaning. I think people in general care about superficial physical features way too much. Like there are so much more important qualities in a partner that will actually have a huge impact on a relationship with someone than height and dick size lol. There are some real narcissists, users and sociopaths out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 09:24 PM
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I will say though, liking getting attention from dressing up and your looks doesn’t necessarily mean someone values their entire self esteem on their appearance. Like Rihanna for example, she always confidence and gives no fucks what people say about her, yet she still dresses sexy sometimes and I’m sure she likes the attention she gets from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 09:17 PM
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Looks is definitely a fragile thing to base your self esteem on 100%. Real self esteem should come from inside, and can only be built on things people can’t take away from you. I heard someone once use the metaphor of being cold blooded vs warm blooded. Cold blooded people rely on external factors to validate themselves whereas warm blooded people don’t care about what people think of them because they can regulate their own temperature.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 09:12 PM
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Yes! There’s nothing wrong with a woman preferring taller men. Personally I’m a very short woman so it doesn’t matter to me. but when I see like a tweet making fun of short men It makes me feel icky. Like it’s just as bad as when men make fun of overweight women. Like have your preferences, but don’t be a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 09:06 PM
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Ouch lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 08:42 PM
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One 8? Haha wdym?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 08:22 PM
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Maybe I’m an outlier but I couldn’t care less about a guys dick size, as long as it’s not too big (ouch) it’s all good w me. Also lanky dudes or dad bods > gym bro bods. But we all have our preferences. I’m a serial monogamist so that probably plays into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 08:21 PM
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Most women aren’t dense though. We are aware that the face we see when we are bare faced is our true face. We also unfortunately compare ourselves to filtered surgically enhanced instagram models. That’s why plastic surgery has skyrocketed in the last few decades. We also know that men often stroke our ego or say any bs to us just to get us into bed. The women who act like they’re too good, are usually deep down deeply insecure and they know it. They’ve been burned before and use cosmetic enhanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 07:58 PM
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You’re assuming that they’re going home with these men though. Sometimes it’s simply for attention for the sake of attention. And of course free drinks. People like being seen as attractive but doesn’t necessarily mean they want sex. It’s complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 07:46 PM
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I agree with you about the “dolling” up being a feminine trait. But I think one thing a few men fail to understand is that makeup is more complex than just a way to get men’s attention. It’s in many ways a hobby of sorts. Some nights when I’m bored and planning on staying home alone, I will practice putting on bright eyeshadow, because it’s fun and almost an art. Not all makeup is purely made to accentuate attractiveness, eg bright eyeshadow, multicoloured eyeliner etc. Same goes with clothing, …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 07:44 PM
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Women’s fashion in general is designed to flatter and accentuate our sexual assets, or is even just more diverse than men’s clothing. It’s so hard to find a fashionable top or dress that isn’t somewhat revealing. Men don’t have the same clothing fashion wise that highlights their sexuality or even uniqueness etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 07:34 PM
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Maybe this is tmi but as a short, petite, woman, I prefer average sized appendages on men. Big hurts! I’d prefer a 4.5 inch over a 6 inch. Maybe I’m an outlier but I personally feel the idea that a bigger penis is more satisfying is partially perpetuated by media.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 07:30 PM
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It’s because historically women’s value was their attractiveness since women once weren’t allowed or expected to get educated and earn money, not too long ago. Big companies as early as the 1900’s capitalised on this fact. So woman have so many avenues of altering our appearances, and in some ways it’s almost expected. Yet now women also have the same opportunities to get educated and careers that men have. It does put women at a slight advantage because we can financially support ourselves and …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 07:24 PM
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Yeah I’ve noticed the biggest gaps I’ve seen are honestly negligible
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 04:42 PM
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How women describe attraction to unattainable, imaginary, powerful or famous men, isn’t always a good indication of what women actually date when it comes to real men we truely encounter though. I (21), and all of my peers from my high school, are dating men around our age. Women dating a man far above our age range, in reality is an outlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 04:18 PM
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You’re not an outlier though, the media has just made you believe you are. How many of your friends actually date older men?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 04:08 PM
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I think it’s a much rarer phenomenon than a lot of men realise. Like yes, it is true for some women, but not representative of the majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 04:03 PM
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Personally, when I’m actually in a relationship and am in love with that person, even though I know there are others out there who may be “better” (at least on paper). I’m too emotionally attracted to ever consider starting with someone else. Even when I fall out of love, it takes me months to start dating again because I keep comparing everyone to them. I think most people in LTR’s feel that though. When I first started OLD I’ve experienced this phenomenon where I had so many options that it be…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 10:35 PM
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A lot of women around my age (early 20’s) who are single like I am, do not prioritise actively finding a partner. Right now my priorities are finishing my degree and earning money. Yes, I would prefer to be in love. but rather than scouring the apps for a potential boyfriend and going on dates where we’re unsure if they guy only wants sex, I’d rather meet someone organically. This is how all my LTR’s started out. Dating apps are so looks driven and shallow that it’s difficult not to start select…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 09:29 PM
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I had an ex cry multiple times while we were together because I think he had undiagnosed depression. It made me upset for him and only feel closer and more intimate with him. What eventually split us up was he had an anger problem that he would direct at me and become verbally abusive. Every time things didn’t go his way 99% of the time he’d react with an irrational amount of anger. I much preferred when he’d open up and cry over his anger outbursts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 09:07 PM
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My point is that women similarly compromise in relationships with their male partners because we also understand that how we relate to each other will be different from how we relate to our female friends. I don’t know why you’re backtracking because your original comment was literally “women aren’t funny, witty or captivating with their personality” which was 100% bullshit. I brought up my male friend/s because I’m pointing out that men and woman can still value each other’s characters over fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 07:46 AM
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This sounds more like it’s simply a disconnect between how men and women socialise. I often find that when I’m with my male partners/friends the banter, jokes and topics of conversation is completely different from when I’m with my female friends. There are certain jokes and topics I never bring up with my male friends because I know they wouldn’t get them or interest them. My friends and I often have confessed between each other about how our boyfriends sometimes bore us by information dumping …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 07:25 AM
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You want to share your man with her 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 06:29 AM
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“It’s not a case of the male not enjoying a woman’s character, but on character alone, you’re probably not in his top 10 people to hang out with, by a significant margin, because he doesn’t put that same requirement on you to be as interesting as his friends would have to be to be in his circle.” Lol this is enormously untrue, me and my introverted guy friend I was talking about are one of each other’s best friends and spend almost every weekend together, sometimes without our friend group. Our …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 06:25 AM
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This doesn’t resonate with me at all, I have a couple close male friends who are on the shyer/introverted side, so generally in that dynamic I’m the one who broaches conversation or activities. I also have male friends on the extroverted side and the dynamic is more banter driven or equal. Women also do not have the same expectations of their bf/husband as of their female friends. In all my relationships I still craved seeing my female friends at least once a week. But in all my relationships, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:49 PM
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Correction, “most women YOU attract, aren’t funny, witty or captivating with their personality” My female friends I’ve met at university are a plethora of diverse backgrounds and different personalities, each with their own unique talents (sports, debate, leadership) that they cultivate through opportunities. I was only able to make these friends once I left the restrictive social circle I had in high school and became my own person, developed my talents and found new opportunities. Being an int…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:07 PM
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Why would a man not have a problem dating a woman like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 11:24 AM
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What? I’m gonna assume here you don’t speak for most men or you’re thinking in terms of sex and not an actual relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 11:18 AM
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It depends on the woman. If the woman is from a cosmopolitan city, then no, this man will likely not be attractive to her because his interests and values don’t align. If the woman was from a rural background and has conservative values, then likely yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 01:12 AM
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That’s a fair point, she is actually from a more rural background than myself and probably has more of a laid back vibe. Even though my parents aren’t super wealthy, I grew up in a wealthy suburb and went to a private high school. Even though I don’t consider myself wealthy I grew up around kids who were so these factors probably shapes my interests and how I come across more than I realise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 01:07 AM
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Is this really an experience specific to men though? In reality some people are born more attractive and putting effort into appearance can only get you so far. There are a lot of women out there who put in a lot of effort but are still unfortunate looking and will never be as attractive as women who were born better looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:40 AM
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I hope to god no man see’s it this way. Being in love is not enough reason to bring a child into this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 12:28 AM
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I’ve had to learn the hard way that there are men out there who will say anything they think you want to hear to get you into bed. I was dating a guy was talking about going on trips together, pretending to be super interested in me but then once we had sex completely switched.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:29 PM
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I’d find this respectful and attractive in the early stages, yeah. If it gets later in the relationship and he still hasn’t made a move, I’d begin to think we just don’t have chemistry or he isn’t attracted to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:22 PM
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Yes! People misinterpret “personality” as just “being nice” but it’s a lot more than that! Men complain that women date assholes who are attractive but be honest, that “asshole” is likely more confident, can actually keep a conversation and has interests. No one wants to date someone who is socially awkward, doesn’t have interests and lacks self-confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:18 PM
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I do agree that women definitely see a man earning more as a plus whereas men don’t. Also men are less likely to see women earning slightly less as a negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:11 PM
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When it comes to sexual attraction, yes you have a point. However, when it comes to commuted relationships it definitely begins to matter a lot more than men first realise.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:01 PM
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That’s fair enough, but everyone should always keep in mind that simply being in a relationship with anyone is not always a good thing. Sometimes it’s better to be single than be with someone who is wrong for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 10:57 PM
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That’s true, but it’s still a case of miscommunication. Guys are often good at playing off nervousness by acting nonchalant and talking less, so women take it as them being disinterested, and because no one likes someone who can’t take a hint, will back off.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 10:53 PM
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I actually don’t agree with this. Even if men claim it doesn’t matter what education/financial status at the end of the day like attracts like. I’ve noticed My friend who is of similar attractiveness to myself but never went to university and is a personal trainer gets very different matches to myself, who is studying biology at university. She gets a lot of blue collar workers matching with her who have the same interests whereas I get a lot of nerdyish dudes. If you really think about it, how …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 10:47 PM
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I’m a woman but I don’t agree with this, why should men date an uneducated woman if they’re educated? They’re less likely to have much in common. Also, It’s important to note that there is something that can’t be measured when it comes to attraction. I’ve dated men who were perfect on paper but I couldn’t make it work into a relationship because there wasn’t that chemistry that makes forming a relationship easy. Even though they were no less attractive, smart or interesting than guys I’ve been w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 10:35 PM
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The thing is overt flirting is often not normal social interaction it also isn’t something that comes naturally to a lot of people so women’s “flirting” can come in the form of simply paying attention to a guy etc. something I’ve noticed that happens quite often is that women can misinterpret a guy being nervous around them, as them being uninterested in them. This situation actually happened between me and a guy I ended up dating. We met at a party and instantly liked each other but we could ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 10:24 PM
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I do think men reject women more than they think, it’s just less obvious. The thing is that women won’t usually “make a move” but guys only count rejection as times when the woman has made a move and the guy rejected her. But most women will wait for the guy to make a move, so subtle rejection can come in the form of the guy never initiating anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 10:08 PM
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What’s wrong with hookup culture? I don’t really enjoy sex without emotional connection but that’s just me, other people can hookup as much as they want, it doesn’t impact me in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 10:03 PM
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Sometimes power is the aphrodisiac. Personally I think older men are disgusting but that being said I’ve developed slight crushes on teacher/professors who were in a position of power over me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 10:01 PM
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I do think that overall onlyfans is a good thing overall for sex workers because at least they have some autonomy over what they film and are fairly compensated.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 10:00 AM
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You just made me realise I actually have no idea what goes on in onlyfans I assume it’s just nudes/nude videos.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 09:22 AM
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A lot of the sexual attraction I’ve had for my previous partners was closely linked to my emotional connection to them. Women definitely are less likely to be immediately sexually attracted to a man solely based on his physical appearance but just because we don’t have immediate “lust at first sight” it doesn’t mean we can’t be highly attracted to a man who doesn’t illicit lust purely from appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 06:33 AM
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I’m the sort of person who is 100% blindly committed and in love with my partner, so much so that I literally can’t form a crush on someone else even if they’re objectively better. Even when I had to break up with my ex because he was verbally abusive I couldn’t date anyone until the memory of him faded. I can’t speak for all women but this is how I have been in past committed relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 06:14 AM
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If a relationship is serious bf/gf the less likely either gender is going to talk about their sex lives. Women do occasionally joke or talk about our sex with a casual fling or someone we’ve just begun dating but that usually stops once the relationship is serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 06:07 AM
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To be fair women are more likely to talk to their friends about their lives in general. I’ve noticed that when men get together to hang out they’re usually doing an activity whether it’s playing video games or sport etc. Women will get together with their friends and simply do chat for hours about the in’s and outs of our lives, our feelings, what we’ve been up to etc. Men still converse but it’s usually about less personal/emotional things. During lockdown my boyfriend had short zoom calls with…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 06:04 AM
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As a female with female friends talking about our partners sex lives is not something we do, we do talk about our relationship’s a lot though. I definitely don’t want to hear about my friend and her boyfriend’s sex life, especially since usually I am somewhat friends with my friends boyfriends, it just feels wrong to hear about them being intimate or to tell my friends about my partner and I’d sex life. I think that’s true for both sexes, the more serious a relationship, the less likely we are t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 05:49 AM
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No, personally I’m more likely to be into my date if they were really into me. Psychologically we’re likely to like someone more because they like us.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 05:42 AM
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The percentage of people who actually do onlyfans is very small for both men and woman so it’s not really something I think about but no, I wouldn’t want to date someone who was doing onlyfans and I think that a lot of men wouldn’t either because it’s a great way to pick a partner that will cheat on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 05:40 AM
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I mainly just want a husband who has an equal socio-economic standing as myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 05:31 AM
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Yes, I’m in my early 20’s and me and all my female friends are mainly looking for a committed relationship as the main goal. The problem is a lot of men our age aren’t looking for a girlfriend so we have to settle for casual dating. Maybe this is a generalisation but I feel like women know we can get laid whenever we want, so casual sex is not as rewarding as it is for men. Guys get more of a dopamine hit from a sense of achieving a goal than women get from casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 05:24 AM
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It would benefit people with good qualities that aren’t shallow/ can be easily displayed on a screen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 05:17 AM
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it’s probably important to note that these movies are fantasies and not necessarily an indication of how women acted in the 90’s
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 05:15 AM
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As an average woman aged 21, a large part of the reason I don’t date or pursue a relationship is because most of the men my age aren’t looking for commitment or if I do end up with a boyfriend it often makes me happy for about a month before having a negative effect on my happiness, grades and social life. Also breakups are awful. I find that it’s easier to be single than to be partnered with someone and experiencing all the highs and lows that come from being in love with someone it likely won’…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 05:13 AM
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Unless you’re suffering from gender dysphoria, most people would not choose to be a different gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 05:02 AM
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Audrey Hepburn is an attractive woman who mainly appeals to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 04:59 AM
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Wouldn’t that just mean being single?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 04:58 AM
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Is cheating that common? I don’t know anyone who has been properly cheated on. Is it really easy to get away with cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 04:56 AM
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I guess the obvious answer is developing confidence through interests and hobbies and friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 04:55 AM
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Idk I feel kinda elitist cause of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 04:53 AM
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I guess pheromones is something some people become attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 04:44 AM
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Being demanding is not a trait of being a foodie. Sounds like she’s not right for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 04:42 AM
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This. My ex dropped out of university to take up a trade. That was fine university isn’t for everyone but he then started trashing university as a waste of time. This was despite knowing I was getting a degree in biotechnology. I had a casual job but he used to make me feel bad I wasn’t working more and told me I should take up a second job and earning more despite the fact I was doing full time university and just didn’t have the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 04:40 AM
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People who aren’t interested in higher education. Logically I know that it isn’t necessary for being successful or smart but I can’t help assuming they’re not right for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 04:35 AM
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I don’t think public interviews are a good representation of what people actually think and believe. In those situations are subconsciously more concerned with appearing likeable and assimilating with the group than being honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 04:28 AM
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So like even though your mother raised you and your brothers you still believe women’s primary value to men is sex. Even if your mother wasn’t a particularly caring mother it doesn’t change the love and impact that millions of women have had on men’s wellbeing. I don’t really understand what you mean by “male problems” because a lot of the men I love in my life do have problems such as depression, anxiety, grief of lost loved ones but I don’t really associate these problems as having much to do …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 02:39 PM
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Yes! Women have a deeply emotional, romantic and illogical approach to dating and sex. When men claim that “women claim they want a nice guy but will keep going back to a chad that treated them like shit” I can see their point but they will then claim it is purely because he’s sexually more attractive, that’s just not true. In reality, the reason is much more complicated. It can usually only be explained with psychology. When someone inconsistently treats you well, it makes the moments they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 07:10 AM
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Myself- equal Friends- equal Parents-mums more attractive Family friends- women are more attractive Friends parents- women are more attractive In older couples (family friends, friends parents) I’ve noticed the women are usually more attractive. I think it has something to do with Women not allowing themselves to become overweight (80’s/90’s “thinner is better” mentality) and just generally being more conscious of their appearance (dying their hair, anti-aging skincare, keeping fashionable etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:44 AM
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I think that wealthy men 1. Have connections to find and afford high class attractive escorts. Not just a junkie selling her body. 2. Have the means to get away with it without their partners being suspicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:34 AM
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That’s such a messed up way to think. Imagine your mother knowing that you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:29 AM
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As a 5ft woman height is something I never would of thought much about when dating until my taller female friends and social media started talking about it. As long as a guy is not ridiculously short I don’t really consider it a dealbreaker. Personally, I’d definitely prefer the really attractive 5’9 guy. Still personality matters, I know some people will role their eyes but when I say personality but I don’t just mean “nice”. It matters how confident and easy it is to talk to someone, if we con…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:26 AM
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I feel like it can be summed up by acknowledging that women, at least when it comes to sexual partners are biologically more picky. Whereas men are less picky not necessarily with who they date but who they will sleep with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:16 AM
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Being denied sex in a relationship is not wrong it’s normal. Both people should be in the mood for sex. Why would someone want to be in a romantic relationship with someone they aren’t attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 04:37 AM
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We get it you’ve got small man syndrome
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 08:07 PM
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Have you have stopped to think that maybe no one wants to fuck you cause you’re also a shitty person?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 07:59 PM
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Lol not reading that. You’re like a yappy lil chihuahua lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 07:56 PM
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Well, I think you’re a sad little man. I’m just being honest with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 07:53 PM
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Cool, i don’t give two shits if people aren’t getting married, tf? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 07:50 PM
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Go outside, touch some grass, call a friend (if u have one), get a hobby, get a job, cause omg it’s reddit! it’s not that deep man, you need to calm down.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 07:47 PM
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How is less babies being born and less weddings even a bad thing or have anything to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 07:44 PM
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Dude? If you have the statistics link them! I’m not just gonna take your word for it tf?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 07:43 PM
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I change my views when I receive new evidence, more people should try it tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 07:42 PM
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Brad Pitt ugly tho and doctors touch organs ew
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:54 PM
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Wait so chad’s are gay tops? I love that for them! 🏳️‍🌈👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:53 PM
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Honestly, I just want a man who is gonna be like my best friend. I can’t build a relationship based on a hot face, I have to be attracted to them but I’m attracted to at least 40% of men my age it’s more important that they’re compatible w me. After being in a verbally abusive relationship at 19 I learnt that all that matters is if your partner is a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:52 PM
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I really want kids one day and I love the idea of taking on the world w a partner someday.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:47 PM
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I guess but what if she’s the sweetest person alive? What if she’s super intelligent? What if she’s as exciting as a boiled potato. Looks aren’t everything in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:45 PM
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Cuz love and mushy shit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:43 PM
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What is a “chad” tho? Hot, sociable, women reign supreme in social hierarchies too. It’s not just something men experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:41 PM
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Me too! I can’t have sex and not get attached how do people do it! lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:36 PM
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Good. Less people, less pollution, less poverty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:34 PM
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Lol I don’t I just wrote this on a whim after watching a nature doco of birds mating rituals. I think the 80/20 thing is bs lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:34 PM
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Humans are monogamous by nature
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:32 PM
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I just hate when men claim dating apps are why women suddenly have “high standards” like if a man rejected me I would immediately look at what was wrong w me or try to reason that I just wasn’t what he was looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:32 PM
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Yeah true I don’t think it’s a real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:29 PM
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Honestly I just wrote this on a whim, I’m not fully versed in this. I think people just fall in love w who we love and if someone doesn’t want you? Then their loss.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:28 PM
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That just sounds exhausting. I think some men just hump and dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:26 PM
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Women have a deeply ingrained historical culture of “improving ourselves” (appearance wise). Makeup, shaving, waxing, laser hair removal, diet culture, corsets, perfume, hair dye, hair straighteners, dryers, curlers, tweezers, lash lift’s, facials, foot binding, fast fashion, heels, plastic surgery,$100 skincare products..I could go on. Because historically our value was our appearance. Now women can get degrees, hobbies, careers, make art, start movements and find value beyond our appearance be…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:24 PM
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I never see this in the real world tbh. Women with any wits about them don’t give it up so easily after being pumped and dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:02 PM
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Yeah that was poor wording. Highest quality mate means very different things to different people, one persons trash is another’s soulmate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 06:00 PM
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Who are these mythical 20% top men? What makes a man in the top 20%? This shit is ludicrous. Touch some grass.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 05:58 PM
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Where are you getting these statistics from? Are you just pulling them out of your ass? Women and men are still getting married and having kids. The population is still increasing rapidly. If a woman wants to wait and have less babies so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 05:57 PM
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Cool. Stay single and die alone in your “superior male body” no one cares lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 05:53 PM
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Yeah. I’m calling BULLSHIT on that one buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 05:51 PM
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Let’s agree to disagree. I’d rather not argue about porn, its a fucked and exploitative industry that’s full of paedophilic undertones and aggression against women. These women are not enjoying it. It messes with young brains, the majority of women do not enjoy rough and painful sex, I can tell you that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 05:50 PM
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I never actually see this phenomenon day to day. Most of my friends in relationships are equally matched. Also any woman with two brain cells will learn from the first experience of getting used for sex to be more careful and less trusting next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 05:40 PM
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Also, it’s so subjective! What constitutes the top 20% of men? Who are the bottom 80%? What women are “average” We don’t live in a world where our entire value can be ranked.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 05:36 PM
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This is so true! Most of the great men are serial monogamous because they get snatched up by great women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 05:33 PM
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Yeah, you’re right, historically women used to have not much choice in who they married or freedom to date, thank fuck we’ve moved past that lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 05:30 PM
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I remember reading an article interviewing male porn stars and he said that women get paid more because there’s a much higher proportion of male’s in the industry than women. You’re literally just making these statistics up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 05:24 PM
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Leave Danny Devito alone you bastard!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 05:18 PM
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Sure it’s not wise but who are we to throw stones? This is why I hate cancel culture. People are allowed to make mistakes and unwise choices it doesn’t define them for life. Some of my stupidest choices made me a more wise and strong person. If we never bleed were never gonna grow. To err is to human and all that jazz.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 05:17 PM
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Why aren’t men shamed in the same way for porn though? Did you know that far more men do porn then women? If I’m being honest, I would never date a man who had previously done porn but I’m not going to claim he’s “ruined”, “tarnished” or made questionable choices sex doesn’t change a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 05:12 PM
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Yeah, I agree I hate this overly sex positive culture that’s preached to young girls. That sex work is empowering and that their sexuality is a commodity and their value. The reality of sex work is degrading, dangerous and leaves people traumatised. I would never shame a sex worker though because I don’t know their story or what lead them to that path. I have a friend (met her in group therapy) who does lingerie waitressing, she has a drug addiction, chronic depression and was beaten by her fath…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 05:08 PM
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Yeah. I hate to lead someone on. Let them down easy quickly. It’s much less painful the earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 05:00 PM
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Tbf the few men who have approached me were my age (often at uni) and reasonably attractive/polite so I thought why not see where it goes lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 04:59 PM
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What are you on about though? Be more specific?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 04:57 PM
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What do you believe captivates women’s attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 04:56 PM
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😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 04:51 PM
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Thank you. This. It’s not enjoyable! Fuck what sex in the city, Megan the stalllion or Amy shumer have told you. The majority of women don’t enjoy or value casual non-comital sex like men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 04:50 PM
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In all honesty, I know you don’t believe this but I could honestly give or take sex sometimes. Sleeping with multiple men makes me physically sick. I honestly can’t have casual sex, I get attracted to a man once intimacy is involved. I don’t believe women can have casual sex like men do, it’s too emotionally taxing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 04:47 PM
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What behaviour are you referring to though? It’s text conversation? I often just straight up ask a guy if he’s looking for a hookup or something more within the first few minutes of talking. They’re surprisingly honest. Just ask, u know?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 04:40 PM
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I’ve only ever felt pedestalised by strangers over the internet tbh so it doesn’t feel real. In the real world it’s only happened a few times for men to approach me. It would probably be really scary to approach a stranger and ask for their number so I try to be nice to them and would never publicly reject.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 04:36 PM
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As a woman with two brain cells to rub together I know when a man is simply gassing me up to get into my pants I take every compliment from a straight male w a grain of salt. Some women learn this the hard way (sleep w him, gets ghosted, heartbroken), others can smell bs, some capitalise off it. But honestly, these women wouldn’t be doing onlyfans is men weren’t willing to pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 04:28 PM
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Is there anything wrong with that though? isn’t dating apps just a way to meet people see if it works out? I once talked on an app with a guy I wasn’t certain I saw a future with but we kept talking because we got along so well. I went for drink with him but realised the romantic spark just wasn’t there. He asked if I wanted to come back to his place. But I panicked and said I can only see us as friends. He was fine w it and we still talk to this day.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 04:23 PM
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Won’t that happen today anyway? Once the top men get snatched up women will file to the next best option?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 04:13 PM
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Read the whole thing (not the equations). It was actually quite interesting. His conclusion was the more evolved the primates the more monogamous we become and humans have overall been monogamous with polygamous tendencies. but I still don’t see how this disproves that women have always had higher standards of their partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 04:10 PM
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Yes, women do get more matches but what they’re looking for is very different (generalising). Men go on dating apps to find women to possibly sleep with them and if they end up actually liking the girl they end up dating them. Women’s objective (generalising) is often searching for a boyfriend. Despite our over sex positive culture might lead us to believe women don’t really go on these apps for the sole purpose of casual sex. If the boy is out of their league in attractiveness and sweet talking…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 03:50 PM
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Obviously, the “Alpha” male isn’t the physically strongest male in modern society it’s the smartest, most financially stable and of course attractive male. The men women swoon over aren’t the muscle gym bro’s, women are increasingly attracted to androgynous and softer men. BTS, Harry styles, Timothy chalemet Shaun Mendez. I’m generalising here but women don’t really value muscular men as much as men think.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 03:36 PM
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Hasn’t that whole alpha male shit been disproven?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 03:31 PM

Humour is a panty dropper trust me
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 03:11 PM
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