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I would add generosity. My ex-husband was a sociopath and excelled at all of these including being a top 1% earner and running a division at work in his early 30s. But he was a sociopath who cared only about his needs and I divorced him. If he showed even a modicum of generosity, I would probably still be married to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 11:14 PM
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Enslave all the men and make them work to build beautiful palaces, homes and gardens for all the women and children. Take only the hottest men and make them sex slaves. Write laws that only benefit women and make all women equal. Create an egalitarian and prosperous state for all women by co-opting all male labor for the good of women and distributing those spoils evenly. Have men compete in Roman-style gladiator type events for the possibility of mating. Lol, of course I wouldn’t do this. But w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 07:54 AM
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Yup, that’s what I think about too. Fat people in the middle of the country. The women is an overweight nurse or nurse’s assistant with 1-2 children. Guy has a huge potbelly, he’s hairy and works in construction. I’d never have sex with either of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/21 07:31 AM
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Maybe. However from what I’ve seen, confident men are confident around men and ugly women and are way less confident around very attractive women. Just my perception, especially when they are not very good looking themselves, even if they are very rich and have other redeeming qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 04:37 PM
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I believe most men, including the vast majority of high value men, actually prefer average to slightly above average women. Celebrities are really the exception here, but high value men in other domains rarely date very ‘hot’ wives. Hot women scare men as much as attract them. Men are always afraid hot women will leave them, cheat on them and break their frame. Men hate below average and ugly women, so average to slightly above average women get way, way more interest than the average to above a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 07:12 PM
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Men care about social status just like women, but in the most superficial ways possible because they fail to deeply understand human relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 04:15 PM
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I don’t disagree with you. I understand that perspective. I do think empathy, kindness and honesty are the most important qualities in a partner. But I want more, I’m not looking for an average relationship, I want an extraordinary relationship. Not in the ‘hypergamous way’ lol, but in forging a strong emotional, intellectual connection kind of way. I want to be able to share my deepest thoughts with that person and feel like our souls are connected across space-time. Lol. My life is very full a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 04:48 AM
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I wish. I’m super attracted to men. I’ve tried to be attracted to women, but it doesn’t work for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:31 AM
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I was asked what stirs me and I answered. As you get older, the bar gets higher in terms of who you want to spend time on. I don’t want to settle for anything less than a strong intellectual and physical connection. I strongly believe there are men out there who are exactly as I described. I am extremely attracted to men, and I think I’m an pretty attractive women (based on man’s reactions), so maybe that prevents what could be a fantastic intellectual connection. I feel very awkward around men …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/21 03:21 AM
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I haven’t met a man in the same headspace as me - intellectual, socially empathetic, internally curious, ability to comprehend and make connections quickly between ideas - where we could really connect on a deeper level. I find some women to be far more intellectual than men. Granted most of those women I met in graduate school, but men at the same level are rarely as intellectual and we share less interests in common. I’m deeply interested in understanding people, society, life and the universe…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 02:00 PM
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Yup at home enjoying a glass of wine. Some of us have kids, some have super exciting careers and some of us have great friends, hobbies and pastimes. I love being divorced and single and focused on building wealth. Men, blah. I’ve never met one who really stirred my interest. My ex-husband, meh, we married young, I never had sex with anyone else before him. We’re probably a TRP wet dream, however by the end, neither of us even remotely liked each other. Divorced is the happiest I’ve ever been. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/21 01:09 AM
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Get a good job or build my own company. Then, travel a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 08:08 PM
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It’s likely already a third won’t have kids in the millennial gen. Gen Z will probably be closer to 50%
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 06:03 AM
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Neither. Someone who understands the social world, and who is not apathetic to it. Empathy and some degree of humanism is very important. I like men who have a cause or a passion because then I know their passion isn’t other women. I don’t like men who are feminists or something, it’s feels disingenuous. I also don’t want a Trump supporter - that’s just gross to me on some level. It’s visceral - maybe it’s the fact I live in California. I like men who are not overtly vocal about their political …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 03:21 AM
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None. Most women I know are either married or completely single (mid 30s). The married ones are not cheating as far as I know and my three single friends are obsessed with adoption and/or career. I’m the only one who is divorced. Men have fallen out of favor. All were in LTRs or married in their 20s. All are well-educated (we went to college together - Ivy League school), thin and I think moderately attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 12:16 AM
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Absolutely it learned because we are social animals that want to confer the most social advantage to our offspring. Yes. We learn to associate more value with socially acceptable looks. It has absolutely nothing to do with true reproductive fitness. I’m a straight women, but feel that current beauty standards are far from what I feel to be true beauty - but are based on historical path dependence and random modern trends. There is some health/biological components - symmetry and color contrast i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 03:42 AM
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Yes they have. Rich people are having large families in coastal areas as a sign of the wealth (3+) children. In the Bay Area, affording a 4 bedroom home in a good school district is 2.5 million for just the home. Yes, the rich show off with kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 01:48 AM
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Men only don’t care about your career when you make less money and are less successful then them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 02:03 PM
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I have a complex life and I’m not sure where a guy fits in. I have 50-50 custody with my ex-husband and have a great career and life. Hard to find secure man who fits into my life and me into his.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 03:40 AM
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Lol. Right. I call BS. Rich, educated women are appealing because of status (not because of attractiveness) until they are richer and more educated than a man and then it doesn’t matter how attractive they are because men feel small and insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:00 PM
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Better Q: Does she make you feel powerful? Wow, you think there no one on Earth that can match you in most things. Lol male ego is one hell of a drug. Unless you’re Obama, I can assure you there is someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 07:10 PM
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Are they? As someone else responded, this is best answered with a crude response, does she still suck my dick? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:44 PM
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Right, but why not a highly attractive no status girl? Are you really saying high status models (who are older to get that status) are hotter than the top 5% of 18-22 year olds, when women are most fertile?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:27 PM
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Lol because saying high status men are so different from all men is such a coherent theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:21 PM
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Lol and no high status men are not made into a joke. Right. It’s part of being high status.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 05:19 PM
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Maybe that’s true. I’ve personally never met an older man like that. Maybe in bed, but not in society. Edit: 50% seems like a totally BS statistic, where are you getting this from? 50% of men over 50 want to be with an older woman for an LTR? I’d call BS on this. I’m sure this does not pare out statistically.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:57 PM
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What do you feel is the best quality about yourself? What if your wife was better I that one quality and made more money than you? How would that affect your attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:54 PM
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Rich men can live out their true nature in a way poor men can’t. That doesn’t mean that poor men don’t have the same nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:51 PM
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Men absolutely care about women making them look better. It’s why rich men date supermodels, and most other men would to if they have the chance. It’s also why men will date models while opining their horrible bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:50 PM
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Sure, amongst younger men. But, I’d wager it’s super uncommon for men over 35.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:48 PM
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So, it’s okay when she’s in a little room by herself, but when it becomes public then it’s a problem. Is this not male ego in its essence? You don’t want to feel small.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:47 PM
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Yup, that’s the excuse. I’ve met many very nice, feminine beautiful entrepreneurs that are not ‘strong and independent’ in relationships at all. Men still avoid them like the plague. Maybe men automatically read that into these women to protect their ego. The most ‘strong and independent’ type (I.e. the type of women who like to say that and are aggressive and mean, but are often the least ‘strong and independent’ type as in self-sufficient ) usually have a man as it doesn’t hurt male ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:17 PM
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Maybe very young men like teens and 20s. I’ve never met a 50-year old dude that wanted to be seduced by experienced women. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:13 PM
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For sex sure, but long term I highly doubt it. They’d make up some excuse to themselves about why there was something wrong with the girl. Knowing inside she makes him feel small to be around her and that’s the real reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:11 PM
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How about if your wife looked exactly the same, but was smarter and more talented than you in the areas you valued and you knew it, would you still have moved forward with the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:10 PM
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I think there is a disconnect between what is physically attractive to men and what is mentally attractive to men in terms of their ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 04:08 PM
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Right. The average man has family and friends. Status is important for all men, because male ego is important for all men. Are you saying the average men doesn’t care about his ego at all and will date a super attractive women who makes more money than him and is way more confident and well-spoken than he is. I think not. He may have sex with her, but no way he stays with her long term. He couldn’t stand her stroking his insecurities.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 03:59 PM
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Yes, I prefer younger men. But, I also like older men. For some reason, I don’t like guys my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 07:31 PM
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Avoidant, attachment and psychopathic behavioral issues. My ex-husband does not perceive any danger at all, experience stress, cannot empathize and exhibits bizarre behavior. It actually got much worse in recent years before the divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 12:19 AM
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Why? I think divorce is more terrible for the less marketable spouse whether they be male or female. Or the spouse who has more love for the other spouse. Some people use divorce to hurt the other person by dragging them through years of litigation, like my ex husband. He enjoys the pain extensive litigation and an aggressive attorney puts me through. He files court orders for the smallest things dragging me to court again and again. He then blatantly violates our court orders, but knows that I …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 10:01 PM
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Divorce is absolutely terrible for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 09:49 PM
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In what ways? It’s like saying, the women in New York are so well educated. Women look for social competence in partners, so no I wouldn’t say batting out of our league. Everything is just way more expensive here, so yes men and women make more money, but your dollar goes way less far. SF has more lost boys than probably any other city in the world. I don’t think anyone finds 45-55 year old lost boys attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 06:11 AM
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SF sucks and I say this as a woman. The goods are odd, but the odds are good, really comes to mind here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/21 02:19 AM
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I like your thoughtful response :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 08:20 PM
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Why do you think being single makes women unhappy? I think divorced women are easily the happiest over married and singles. I’d say the same things I was discontented about in my marriage, I’m still discontented about, but now not having to deal with a partner makes me infinitely more happy. I have way more time to garden, cook, swim, read a nice book, all things I love so much more than sex. It’s fantastic. I have my children to love and care for. For that reason, I never truly feel alone. I ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 12:31 PM
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In the long run, none of this shit matters. If your personalities clash or grow apart, it doesn’t matter if your the richest, most beautiful or what not. Sure when your young, it seems like the most important thing, but as you get older, you start asking the question: does this person make my life better and do I come out happier, more energized from this interaction? If not, you cut them out if you life. Human relationships are so damn complex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 12:25 PM
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Really? I love being divorced. I got to experience marriage, but now I get to be single with no social expectation. I have amazing kids and they fill my life. Childbearing responsibilities are actually shared 50-50 thanks to the Court. My ex used to do nothing for our children and now he has to do 50% of all the work. I have my own house, have my own personal space that I can do with what I want. There’s no needs of a man or anyone else for that matter that I need to fulfill. There’s no weird pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 12:22 PM
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I should say I don’t mean alone socially, just romantically. I think human beings are meant to have robust social networks throughout their lives, but a romantic partner only during prime reproductive years. Then, for most the relationship morphs into a mix of convenience and social expectation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 12:14 PM
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Sure, as long as he’s hot, young and isn’t using me for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 02:12 AM
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Dealing with a sociopathic ex-husband and being substantially richer and more mature than most single men in my age group. Unlike what PPD says, men are the ones who don’t want to date up. I’d gladly date down for a hot, younger man. Having way too many men who want to sleep with me in real life and online, particularly in the 35-55 group married and single. In that way, PPD is right. Men are way more thirsty.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 12:51 PM
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Yeah, there was a study a while back that showed people with an opposite sex sibling who was within 3 years of their age were less likely to get divorced. I think if you were to study this, you’d find people with an opposite sex sibling within 3 years are also way more likely to be in an LTR or date normally. It’s sad that we’re moving toward single children and large differences between births. It leads to people who struggle to relate to the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 10:21 PM
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Or it could be both.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 01:02 PM
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Men automatically get taken seriously in many situations. They get seen as leadership material. It’s almost the default, whereas me running the company as a petite women is always questioned, out-of-the ordinary. People question my technical skills all the time even though I have a masters in math. Once a coworker without a college degree and his manager assumed I knew less about math than he did. People assume I’m irrational, emotional and not strategic, when I’m literally the direct opposite. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 08:37 PM
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I’m an early 30s woman with kids and money. I’d argue women like me are the least interested in settling down. So many men aged 38-50 in the Bay Area with no kids that desperately want to be fathers. Lol. Just saw a profile, dude is a cardiac surgeon and is 45, profile full of pictures of babies. Baby fever is strong here among the men. Pass no thanks. There’s so many like him - founders, executives, lawyers. There are plenty of young men with money, why would a women date 10-15 years older? No,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/21 04:34 PM
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I would allow it if you were a really high value partner (like very famous, 100 million plus net worth) and it improved my quality of life substantially to be with you: But: I’d never have sex with you, or only rarely and it would be fake I’d emotionally cheat on you, but not have sex with other men I’d play a good wife, but see it as a business transaction So it probably does happen for the ultra high value men, where the other person’s life is exponentially better with association with them. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 12:24 PM
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I want love and children. Already had my children and will take love in any form, male or female. I also want to make money. This is order of things for me: Children Family Work Love Love has to be pretty exceptional to come up in that pecking order.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 06:55 AM
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Isn’t this true of both sexes? Independent people want better spouses because they aren’t needy?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 06:50 AM
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My conjecture (and will not say this is an argument as it’s untestable in a true sense) is that the entire distribution of innate intelligence is relatively similar between men and women. I think socialization and our poor ability to measure intelligence obfuscates this. I don’t believe the academic arguments that intelligence or disorders are sexually selected for. I think the only thing women might sexually select for is dominance, charisma and leadership ability because men with those qualiti…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 05:55 PM
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This is just BS. Most of this is socialization. I did my masters in math, and I’m a women. While doing my masters, I was forced to take an IQ test and educational psychologist told me that I had the highest verbal intelligence she had ever seen in 30 years. I do have some abnormalities like OCD and dyslexia, which do skew male maybe (or are they just more visible in men?). From my experience going to the very best schools and meeting many CEOs and leaders, I believe many of the smartest and most…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 11:38 AM
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Divorce is really not that bad. When we got married, we had very little (early 20s). We divorced in our early 30s (with over 3 mil in assets and two kids). All earned during the marriage, we were good financial partners (earned, invested similar amounts), but horrible emotional partners. Yes, we both got kind of screwed but not truly. We learned from each other, marriage skills and we can meet someone new if we do desire. We have equal time with the kids, our own homes in a VHCOL area, fastastic…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 01:02 PM
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You can’t add expectations after the fact, ‘like commitment’. What rational person would commit to someone who treats you like a causal companion unless your interested in them as a ‘causal companion’? Literally, something is wrong with that person - male or female. Your question literally makes no sense. It just seems like ask stupid questions get stupid responses. You asked who would I choose and I answered. I enjoy younger, muscular men and it’s even better if he’s rich. Yes, I’m not interest…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 01:19 PM
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Guy B as a causal fling, especially if he’s young and hot. He seems like he can handle a fling without breaking his fragile little heart. I’m just way more attracted to men in their 20s, especially if they are muscular. But arrogance and immaturity is a big turnoff as well as living fast life. However, nothing wrong with enjoying the luxuries in life. Really depends on his personality style. The worst thing would be for him to get attached to me as guy A might. I personally hate having to ghost.…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 06:00 AM
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Well, most of the studies were done with data from the 1970s-1980s when divorce was more stigmatized and there wasn’t no fault divorce. I think today there wouldn’t be much of a connection between partners and divorce. The same with cohabitation prior to marriage. Cohabitation prior to marriage is also correlated with divorce. However, researchers have found that relationship to wane over time. Basically, cohabitation was very stigmatized in the past, so it was a proxy for people who were not so…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 01:43 PM
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Yes, the grass is always greener on the other side. Wondering what they missed out on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 01:34 PM
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I did not have sex with anyone else and neither did my ex-husband, and we have one of the most contentious divorces in the county.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 04:25 AM
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Single fathers households have a substantially higher child mortality rate than single mothers. From an evolutionary perspective, i.e. survival, single mothers are better parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 03:05 AM
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I didn’t settle I found my dream house, men are mostly useless to me. Why would I settle? Most women don’t settle, isn’t that why 90% of the men on this sub are complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 03:02 AM
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In response to your comments on the average man. First, the average man is not in a worse spot because women got more rights. The average man is struggling because of extreme wealth inequality. Three men - only three men - own $1 out of ever $40 in wealth owned by Millennials. A few men at the top are hoarding all the resources. Millennial men better get put their pitchforks if they want to not die alone. Your purpose is simple - oppose the .01% and get a fair share of the wealth distribution. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 08:25 PM
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Not really. We just want them to find us attractive. Similar to how men want attractive women to want them. It feels good to get validated by high value members of the opposite sex. I’m not really interested in having them stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 03:26 PM
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No trama. I’ve only had sex with two people ever, my ex and my college boyfriend. Maybe they’re inept in bed. In general, sex feels like a chore that I just hated doing. Like washing the dishes. Now that I’m 32, I could be happy maybe having sex once every decade or two, just for the novelty maybe or maybe never again. I’m an attractive women so I can tell there are many men that would enjoy having sex with me. It makes me feel so good to know that I never have to have sex with any of them ever.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 01:52 PM
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No. I would have said yes before my marriage. Most men cannot handle a more successful, business-savvy or intelligent women. I have a type A personality and I own my own business in hyper competitive, male dominated field. I believe it will only lead to unhappiness to marry down. Maybe not initially, but it slowly wears on a man. As I get older, I also question if I really want a man at all, even a more financially successful man. I already have wonderful children. Not living completely alone wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/21 07:02 AM
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You are generalizing a lot of relationships here. Sure, some men will do things around the house and some men will absolutely not. My ex-husband refused to even do the littlest thing at home and tried his very best to control me, cut off ties to my friends and family. At one point he even took my keys so I couldn’t drive anywhere. My ex-husband has a PhD and a very high paying job, so it’s not like he was uneducated to feminism. He just legitimately believed he was superior to me because he was …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 05:21 PM
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I’m NOT convinced that having an older father is much better than an older mother. Basically, it’s just best to have young parents. Having an older mother means that you may never get born as miscarriage rates, stillbirth, inability to conceive and early term births go up. (Also, an increase in Down syndrome risk.) However, having an older father is highly correlated to a whole host of mental illnesses from depression to schizophrenia. The increase in risk jumps dramatically for men over 45. In …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/21 02:41 AM
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Millennials births themselves are way down. Yes, out of wedlock births look higher because no one is having kids anymore. Some of it is just fertility ages, so average age at first birth almost never goes above 30. It’s because on average the human body is much more likely to have an ‘opps’ pregnancy in that age range. There are just more ‘oops’ pregnancies now as so many Millennials are opting out. Can you guarantee yourself an ‘oops’ pregnancy? What type of mother is she going to be? Will you …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 09:56 PM
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Sure, but how many women are interested in having your kids sans marriage if your average joe or even Chad? Probably no one. Even teens are wising up and teen pregnancy is in decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 09:45 PM
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If you want children, there is no way out of these issues. It’s not marriage driving the issues here, it’s children. Structural inequality greatly affects children. Modern life greatly affects how difficult it is to raise children, effectively putting much more pressure on the parents and indirectly the marriage. Inequality hurts children because: Less societal investment in child care/ early childhood education More expensive homes that take two working parents Long hours and long commute times…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 09:39 PM
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When looking at the burdens of marriage, I think it’s best to look at what people do in divorce because theoretically they have MORE burdens. They must maintain two separate households, work, all the child rearing duties and transportation. Having 50:50 custody as the norm is a great test for men. If men want to argue that they in fact work as hard, they should be able to handle all these responsibilities in divorce just as well. However, from my experience, 50:50 custody with young children is …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 09:30 PM
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What are talking about? Divorce was easily my best decision to enjoy my children. Otherwise I was watching them 100% of the time. Now, I spend great quality time with them during my 50%. Best thing ever. I don’t really enjoy sex. So divorce is great for me in a lot of ways. I only look for companionship in a relationship which I can get from friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/21 09:04 PM
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