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I don't care if a guy is less able to turn me on from the jump. Any man can do what a player does for me sexually, most men just don't have the confidence until you make them more comfortable. I really don't care about seduction skills. I'm not 16 I can think through arousal and pick the best partner even if it will take a little bit longer for me to be turned on by him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:17 PM
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You'll never get the hottest 20-something women. There are younger men out earning you. Maybe you make 200k at 35 but some 23 year old guy is making that too. Plus money means less past a threshold. Women might go for the 35 year old making 150K over the guy her age making 50k but she won't pick the older guy making 250k over the young guy making 150k. So yes, you will gain desirability over average income men but it's too late for you to beat the top 10-20% of young men for the hottest women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 03:01 AM
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The number is stupid. If he feels he needs regular blowjobs to be happy in the relationship I wouldn't mind him expressing that. Assuming he does things for my happiness than I would accommodate his desires. So I would feel completely fine but I would think he's being dumb. A number means nothing. A woman with no intention to continue the bj's can hit the number, get what she wants, then stop. He should consider long term behavior and if the woman usually does things just to make him happy. If s…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 01:05 AM
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Being trad makes sense if you're a man making good money. You don't need a woman to bring in more income, you need someone to take care of the house and children. A man making 500k would probably rather get out of all the night waking, diapers, and dishes than split household chores with a wife who worked. The trad framework is mutually beneficial if the man makes good money. He gets to offload all domestic tasks and she gets taken care of. You've clearly never had a passion if you think making …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 10:38 PM
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It's the above average effect. Around 90% of people rate themselves as above average in a given domain. Looks is one of those domains. How would you feel if I told you that you have average intelligence. You would probably be offended and deny it even though statistically you probably are pretty average intellectually. Ever notice how almost all normal nothing-special people think that "the average person is so stupid". People are too emotionally driven by their ego to see themselves as the aver…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 09:24 AM
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I wish I had this problem. Men always become submissive to me when they realize I'm more intelligent. They start acting like dumb babies and expect me to handle everything. I would be so relieved if a man actually dumped me instead of trying to make me his mommy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 09:00 AM
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Have you ever considered that people love being the victim and rarely tell the absolute truth? You think judges, many of whom are men, just hate men and want to take everything from them? Sure, there's probably a rare case of a man being f'ed over in a divorce. But it's way more likely that the divorce was fair and he's skewing the story. My boyfriend is an attorney. A ton of his friends are men in family law. The men on the ground dealing with divorce think it's fair to men. Stop getting your o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/23 12:42 AM
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If being hot is so easy why aren't more women hot? Oh yeah, because being hot is hard fucking work. It takes unwavering discipline that the average person doesn't have. Does it make sense to you that someone with enough discipline to consistently eat healthy and workout would behave and think the way you described?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 07:10 AM
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We both value the same thing, ego. Society told men that they're the best if they can get sex with hot women. Society told women they're the best if they can get a rich man who provides for them. The more ego driven someone is, the more these factors matter. If people could never show off the status of the partner they attained, we both would date much differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 07:00 PM
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This is overly simplistic. Whether or not you get commitment has more to do with timing, chemistry, and relationship goals than leagues. The most superficially valuable man I've dated wanted commitment and spoiled me to get it. My unrequited undergraduate love who didn't even have a car wouldn't commit to me and strung me along. 0/10 women would pick my undergrad crush over my boyfriend, he is not in a higher league. A certain type of man strings women along without commitment, not a specific va…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 03:41 PM
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Good luck getting your dick into your wife's dry obligation pussy. You're a virgin so you don't understand this yet, but sex doesn't work unless the woman is turned on. Either you learn how to make her desire you, and the sex isn't an obligation, or it's not happening. She can't magically will her vagina muscles loose enough to fit a penis, she has to be sexually aroused for those muscles to relax. Unless you're going to shove it in despite the tightness which is incredibly painful and probably …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 02:36 PM
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You have low EQ. Narcissistic behavior is an emotional bandaid for low self esteem. The women who are injured by being told to date in their league are injured because there is no foundational self worth that can handle being average. Instead of feeling worthless, they opt to delusionally believe in their superiority. Trying to humble someone for their coping mechanism to having no self worth will only exasperate the problem. Secure women don't need a partner who proves their worth to others and…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 01:56 PM
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If you want to live a fantasy then you need to let go of reality. You can't have both. Deep down I know my man isn't some dominant confident guy. Deep down he knows I'm not some innocent girl who can't help but be slutty for him. But we chose to believe the lie and get to experience the perfect fantasy. Your solution is trash. What if the woman you're paired with hates sex? The best non-contradictory solution is the suspension of disbelief. If she pretends to be innocent with you, and it's hot, …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 11:22 PM
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It has nothing to do with looks or gender. Insecure people are hard to deal with. That said, plenty of ugly people are secure. What you think is hot girl behavior is really just secure behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/23 12:38 AM
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Change what law? Tell me the actual laws you want changed. Also law was overwhelming male for most of its inception. You're telling me that men set up a legal system that strips them of custody against their will? No. When you have children you do what's best for them, not yourself. So the kids stay with the primary caregiver, man or woman, and the non primary caregiver contributes more financially. Does it suck for the parent? Yes. Because its not about the parents its about the well being of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 09:57 PM
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You're 100% correct. I'm a 5'1 90 pound woman and I protect other women more than men do. Men talk big talk but when push comes to shove they only protect themselves. And it's always been this way. The phrase "women and children first" came about because men were using their strength to get all the lifeboats and women and children were pretty much guaranteed to die if the ship went down. I'm so sick of men pretending they're sacrificial protectors. Yeah, maybe in your day dreams. Talk to me afte…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 09:45 PM
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Yes but in the same way any malicious rumor is disruptive to your life. It's not a male specific issue. I was fired from my first real job after college due to a manager making up a rumor about me and turning the whole group against me. Men don't need to fear legal consequences, those require hard evidence. They need to fear social consequences... but so do women. We're sabotaged differently but it has the same result.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 05:02 AM
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Im 27 and my options have steadily improved with time. A lot of successful men want an equal. There's a lot less competition for me when success filters out most women. Meaning I need to be hotter than other women at my level of success, not all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 04:39 AM
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It is. We need a next generation or our economy will collapse. Think of it that way. Single mothers drain resources in the present, but raise children who grow and contribute to the economy. You're not subsidizing single moms, a small portion of your taxes is going to helping a new generation that will subsidize YOU when you get old and are a drain on society. Who do you think is paying for your medicare one day? The children benefitting from your tax money right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/23 05:53 AM
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Are you actually attracted to women who are masculine or do you hate your life and want a woman to come save you? If you won the lottery tomorrow and got 100 million dollars would you still want a woman who acted in charge of you? Or are you struggling with adulthood and subconsciously looking for the comfort of childhood dependence?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:49 AM
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It's rare that someone becomes vindictive over rejection. People become vindictive because they feel wronged. No one wants to admit they did something bad, so it's easier to ignore the awful things you did and pretend the other person is unreasonable. I've seen way more cases of people lying to themselves about their own misdeeds than people being inappropriately vindictive. Everyone operates from the assumption that they're a good person so any feedback to the contrary gets dismissed without ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 10:18 PM
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Men shoot their shot like crazy online. You're telling me the same men who comment "sexy bb <3" under selena gomez's pictures are being realistic in who they message online? No. Sending a message is zero effort or risk. Men indiscriminately message who they are interested in pursuing (as long as there's no possible real life consequences). You can think young people are the most attractive and have no interest in actually pursuing them. They might be sexually interested but most men have enough …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 09:21 PM
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Men say they wont date a porn star all the time. Imagine you're a girl who does everything right and someone releases deep fake porn of you destroying your value that you sacrificed everything to maintain. How would you feel if people had the power to take all the relationship value you've fought for from you in a second?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 09:05 PM
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Status is the emotional driver of achievement. Something to keep us pushing forward when all our needs are already met. It's a powerful social reward for accomplishing something beneficial to the group. Social connection, intellectual achievement, skills, vital jobs, etc. are all beneficial to your group and therefore boosts your status. Young women are given a higher default status because of the importance of child rearing. But people can earn status at any age through valuable contribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 10:33 PM
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It's the same feeling you would get from being seen with an ugly girl. When the man doesn't pay it's a status hit because she couldn't get a man who provides for her. The way a woman's attractiveness reflects a man's value, a man's financial contribution reflects a woman's value. You splitting the bill in front of her friends is like showing a girls picture to your friend group and having them say "as long as your happy man".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 11:56 PM
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I think that has more to do with ego. Lately I can't unsee how much ego behavior shields authentic assessment of others intelligence. People cling to a dumb theory as an attempt to feel special and we see it as unintelligence. People talk like they're knowledgeable in a subject they're under informed in to try and impress people and we see it as stupidity. We have such a driving desire to be smarter than others that it makes us ignore our own intelligence. I used to work in cog sci and I IQ test…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:54 AM
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Literally just had to call it off with a 30 year old guy because of his rejection baggage. I guess the women in law school didn't line up for his dick so now he resents women. I've never seen a woman get dating trauma as easily as men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 11:20 AM
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My sister is the one who refuses to marry her boyfriend. She has their entire life planned out and 100% wants to be with him. So not only does the poor guy not get the marriage he wants, everyone treats him like the bad guy because they assume she wants to be married and he's stringing her along. You don't know whats actually going down in other peoples relationships. I think this happens to men just as much but its too embarrassing to correct people and admit they're the one someone refuses to …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 11:45 PM
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Yeah no. If you're a good guy looking to love a girl and treat her right then I'll help you get her. But I'm not helping a man "score" using MY reputation. Get real. Women help their genuine good male friends get partners. No women worth being around is going to be a wingwomen.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 10:24 PM
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Bro. I promise you everyone knows. You're just bringing up an impending source of stress. It's the equivalent to sitting down at lunch with friends and bringing up the fact that half the people at the table will die of potentially horrific cancer. Things can be factually true AND rude to bring up when people are trying to enjoy themselves. You're not "spitting facts", you're stating the obvious and causing emotional distress in women who are stressed about child rearing. What you think is people…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 07:23 PM
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Your friends might be status gold, but that status doesn't actually translate to happiness. It's a lesson we all learn the hard way. We throw our all into getting that high status partner just to find that flexing them comes nowhere close to the joy of meaningful human connection. The unfortunate part of being high status is that you're this lesson for quite a few people. You get lead on by people who know they don't like you but think your status is more important. Then you get blindsided and d…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 12:01 AM
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Believe it or not, women already act in a manner to maximize their happiness. If a woman isn't doing something, it's because it won't increase her enjoyment of life. "But women go for men who are mean to them and upset them"... yes because those women are turned on by it and being sexually stimulated increases their enjoyment of life enough to outweigh the decrease in enjoyment. "But people get addicted to drugs even though it makes them less happy"... recovery rates for drugs that actually ruin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 11:34 PM
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Ah. You're angry and yet so misinformed. Alimony is awarded in <10% of divorces and the following conditions must be met: You relied on your partner for financial support, you do not have enough resources to provide for yourself, and you are unable to work. So you have it backwards. The greater your education/career skills, the LESS likely you are to get alimony. Alimony is given only if the person has no chance at supporting themselves... like due to: old age, sickness, decades out of the work …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 07:43 AM
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Okay so date a virgin. Why do you feel the need to convince everyone your decision is right? Get off reddit and go find her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 09:56 AM
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You're addicted to anger. I have the same problem. Let me guess, you think about things that make you angry ALOT. A part of you doesn't want to quit thinking about and consuming these things. Sure it's unpleasant, and yet you obsessively evoke the emotion in yourself. You're getting dopamine from anger. I didn't realize it until adderall made me able to feel generally unnoticeable dopamine hits. Treat it for what it is, an unhealthy addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 11:12 PM
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Attractive people are born with a value that decreases with age. That doesn't mean attractive people can't build long term value. There is no shortage of young men into the idea of partnering with a powerful rich slightly older woman. Anyone who works for it can have a lasting ability to pull young hot people with money. You'll say "but women don't want to provide to receive love" and to that I say, do men really want that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 12:43 AM
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Nothing because women are already competing over the 80 men who don't view us as being replaceable by an object.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:17 AM
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Only because men are used to makeup. Men prefer natural women who stand out against women with makeup. Of course that's rare. If all women stopped wearing makeup men would adjust and find a lot more natural women attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 11:02 AM
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You don't have to be a beta. Have some common sense and stop dating/leading on your coworkers.... Btw real high status men have so many options they would never in a million years f with a woman they work with. If you're desperate enough to shit where you eat, you aint that high value.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 08:09 PM
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Some people want to reach and some want to settle. If you value your partner "being a flex" more than the quality of the relationship, you reach and do most of the heavy lifting. If you want to be lazy in the relationship and still be dotted on, you settle. It all boils down to what people want: an equal partner, a status symbol, or their ass kissed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 04:30 AM
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Most women also spent their 20's working their ass off. Why are you defining all women by a few gold digging party girls? Obviously the women who didn't build a career are the ones chasing your money... they're the ones desperate for money. No one care that you want to date younger, live your dreams, but stop dragging all women based off the party girls you meet in clubs. Oh and btw I'm 26 and out-earn you. And I can say with full confidence that a single mom with multiple low paying jobs works …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:12 PM
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Do men on this sub not realize a sizable amount of young women are unattractive. Men date hotter not younger. An attractive 30 year old can still blow an average 24 year old out of the water. A less-secure average-looking younger women is also easier to attain not harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 02:46 PM
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I don't see men as enemies. I see men as people who want to gain something from me but would prefer not to hurt me in the process. Men aren't against me, they're for themselves. They have some empathy towards causing others pain but it can be ignored when desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 02:32 PM
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fat single moms are picky and demanding when they should be happy they’re getting any male attention at all. Single parents should be the most picky. They have children to protect, they can't be letting any person into their life. A world where single moms take any male attention out of desperation is a world where a lot of children get harmed. Oh, and fat single moms know they aren't getting a hot rich man. They're just way more sensitive to social proof that a man is a good person. Some guy on…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 10:53 AM
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Less than 50% of women between 18-30 have used a dating app. That means the majority of women are untouched by dating app hypergamy. You're struggling because you don't have the social standing to meet these women in person so you have to meet women online. If you think women online are too warped by the apps then stop using them and go socialize with women in real life. Join a charity or a club or a church or something. The actual problem is your lack of a social life, not dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 10:38 AM
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Strangers are probably less likely to murder you. Most murder is a crime of passion. A certain level of closeness is required to hit that level of blind rage. Sure there's the rare psychopath who kills for pleasure and the less common shooter who kills due to a hatred of humanity. But those types of murder are far outweighed by interpersonal rage murders.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 10:01 AM
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You'll find the non-religious trad girls perusing a career they don't want because there's no guarantee they'll get a provider. They'll likely be from well off homes where their mom was a sahm. They will be pushed to college due to social class expectations even though they don't want careers. I would say a 1/3 of women I knew in undergrad really wanted to be a sahm. Plenty of them were still virgins. I have no good advice on how to access them but there is A TON of women that fit your criteria.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 09:42 AM
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The vast majority of men are not in the financial position to ignore a woman's income. He makes, say, 130k. He can pick a financial equal his age and have a household income of 260K, retire earlier, and carry less stress. Or he can pick a young woman who isn't going to date older without being taken care of (because why would you. Ew). Then he has more expenses, and surprise, she also doesn't look too hot after a few kids and years. The most logical decision is to get married to a financial equa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 06:53 AM
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But the opposite is true? Men tend to be risker decision makers while women are more risk adverse. Which is why men are more likely to make it big in business but also more likely to completely fail. Women don't make "more hormonal" decisions. We actually make safer more-reliable even-tempered decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 06:39 AM
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I'm a well off woman and it's not that women don't want to pay, its that men are awful gold diggers. I'm not upfront about my money and almost every man is militant about 50/50 when they think they have more than me. Then they do a 180 and want to be provided for. Why should I freely give to you when you won't freely give back. The second I meet a man who wants to provide for me I will give him free access to my money and he'll never need to work again. But the men looking to be provided for and…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 12:01 AM
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Sometimes I wonder how people project so clearly but don't see it. Whats more likely... every woman who has commented is bitter and lying to herself. Or you're bitter and lying to yourself? Whos comment has clear signs of bitterness? Occams razor. Come on be logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:53 PM
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I think the wall does exist, but it's more like your .001% chance of marrying a billionaire just went to .00001% because you turned 30. The horror.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:29 PM
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Because a certain type of player is interested in the chase, not the sex. Once you have sex he loses interest. A girl willing to be a FWB holds no appeal to this type. He can't be weeded out by making it harder to get. He wants it more the harder it is. This type is actually best weeded out by sleeping with him early and seeing if he dips before you spend a lot of time getting emotionally invested. A fuckboy who dumps you early for not putting out is whatever. A fuckboy who will lead you on for …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:44 AM
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Most men aren't a healthy weight so why would they deserve a woman who is?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 03:19 AM
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This is my experience. From 18-25 I went from dating a stoner pizza delivery boy to a well off attractive patent attorney. There were a few other men in between but always upgrades.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 05:51 PM
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... do you not feel guilt? Moral behavior is a sacrifice made so your brain doesn't emotionally torture you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 05:11 PM
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All of the men I know with wives who call all the shots picked a commanding woman on purpose. They like her taking charge of things. They just pretend they don't to their buddies. You ever seen those couples on vacations? The wife has everything planned and the husband gets to just be dragged around. She likes the power, he likes the laziness. Those men don't need saving. They're living their Freudian mommy issue dreams and pretending not to like it to score man points. Just let people find the …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:00 AM
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Well since you like making stuff up, my turn: We have spent thousands of years in a society where economic investment from men was CRITICAL to an offsprings success. Men with the genetics to "spread their seed" would leave their sons in poverty aka unable to spread their seed. His genetics would quickly be weeded out. Men who stayed and invested in their sons would produce sons capable of producing more sons.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:51 AM
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All of your premises are wrong but you're emotionally invested in those so I'm going to argue a point you may actually concede. If the amount of suffering felt by men and women is the same... then both genders have it equally bad. What is bad if not feeling unpleasant? At the end of the day, we suffered an EQUAL degree. How much you would have suffered in the reverse circumstance isn't really relevant to the amount of suck that was experienced. And that suck was equal. No one has it better or wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:37 AM
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No its because video games no longer correlate to drive and motivation. There are men who will put effort into the relationship and love gaming. There are men who will give you no effort but don't game. It's just a hobby. Men can ignore you with ANY hobby, it's not specific to gaming, it's specific to the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/22 02:02 AM
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The men who can’t get sex at all in their 20s probably aren’t getting married any time soon. Men who get it easily settle down young. Consistent repeated exposure to something (even hookups) makes the appeal die. The biggest f boys I knew in undergrad married at 23-24. It's men getting it enough to stay single but still pretty irregularly who stay hooked to the chase. Inconsistent reward is addicting but consistent easy reward is meh. Never seen a man who can actually pull whenever he wants stay…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 07:33 AM
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But most married people are dual income average earners. He's beta buxxing her just as much. They both need each others (generally matched) income...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 07:19 AM
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I work in tech. They def still care about personality. How are you going to work on a team if you can't function socially? A little socially awkward is fine but socially incompetent isn't going to fly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/22 07:09 AM
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Question, and be real: Would you have turned down the opportunity to leave her and go be pampered by a millionaire? It's not hypergamy. She just got a crazy good offer and you would do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 01:10 PM
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Women know this. It's men who keep saying a woman's income doesn't matter. It absolutely, 100%, does. Almost every man wants a women of equal financial standing. Double the quality of life, double the savings, double the security, earlier retirement. But no, men on this sub claim men care more about 18 year old virgins than their life being tolerable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 01:04 PM
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Mmmm. And when the novelty of novelty wears off? What then? There's a reason fuck boys grow up. It gets boring. Congrats on your new found ability to sleep around. Like all things in life, the pleasure you get from it will decrease with each repeated exposure until you're left craving something different.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 12:42 PM
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Men do the same. They claim a woman used them for free stuff because it's easier than admitting she just lost interest in you. No one is putting in all that effort to use you for a 12 dollar entree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 12:18 PM
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No one interacts with anyone who provides no value. That even includes friendships. You would stay with a woman who brought absolutely nothing to your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 11:58 AM
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No you just can't get the mentally healthy fun awesome 30 year old women because you drip in bitter hatred my guy. A 30 year old women who loves herself isn't dating a man who views her so negatively. She would have to hate herself to accept your hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 11:34 AM
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Alot of women had a father who only showed affection through providing. Our neural circuits were wired to see that as a man loving us. When you don't care at all about providing, that feels like you don't love us. Maybe you do. But I could never feel loved by a man with no desire to provide. My brain literally will not produce the loved feeling. I imprinted on how my father showed affection, and that is money.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 10:54 AM
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Most people don't want a partner who stays home. If you find someone to bankroll you I'll pat you on the back and congratulate you but IT AINT ME. No one cares if men are stay at home dads. Most people just don't desire that relationship setup.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 10:40 AM
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lol. I developed unshakable confidence after recovering from drug addiction. You ever felt emotional pain so severe you debated breaking your own fingers for distraction? Welcome to withdrawl from hard drugs. Once you feel pain like that, you'll never fear rejection pain again. Its literally a 5 second mildly unpleasant sensation. Why are you so afraid of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 08:06 AM
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Agreed. A man can only use you for sex if you have sex you don't want to have. If you wanted the sex, then things just didn't work out, oh well. I've never felt used sexually because I only have sex I want to have. These women are trying to exchange sex for something and thats why they feel "used" because they didn't get what they wanted. Dating as a woman is so much easier when you realize all men are gonna give you for sex is an orgasm. Don't want an orgasm? Don't have sex. Want something that…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 07:03 AM
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If you think average women are used cars and average men are luxury cars... I think it's time to switch to gindr
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 06:49 AM
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Yes if it was out of his control. No if he's just trying to offload the burden of life on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 01:27 PM
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Literally no one said age gaps are slavery.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 01:23 PM
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Let's not gloss over the fact he called finding out a child isn't yours "the worst enslavement".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 01:18 PM
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I'm SO sick of hearing this. Divorce is worse for the richer party, man or WOMAN. Stop making it gendered. Marriage is a risk for the partner who makes more, not "men".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 04:28 AM
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Yeah. Men largely marry around their age and socioeconomic range.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 04:23 AM
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all he he wants is someone hot and nice Sure. If he's desperate. Men with options filter on criteria well beyond this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/22 04:06 AM
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It’s as simple as supply gets crappier as you age. Same is true with men. Most men start desiring marriage around 28 and will get swooped up at that point. 26-28 seems to be when the music stops and everyone fights for a chair. The best matches will likely never come back on the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 08:29 AM
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Constant rejection is the worst baggage a man can have.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 08:18 AM
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It's not hard if you offer the equivalent. A hot man who is family oriented and has valuable husband skills can easily attain that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 07:44 AM
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Hmmm. Are you a manipulative person because your take on other peoples behavior is umm... interesting. Most men aren't so evil that they would intentionally future fake a women with the goal of making her a single mom. Either: A) Hormones happened, baby occurred, hormones wore off, oh fuck. Or B) The immature man didn't understand that having a baby largely sucks and he unknowingly wrote a check he can't cash.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 07:08 AM
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Look I'm on your side, this guy should have a restraining order from all of science, but I've read research about a fruit fly gene that, when mutated, caused gay behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 06:42 AM
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Women never lose the opportunity to have a relationship with average men. We age out of the ability to lock down high status men. She risked nothing and had everything to gain. The single 38 year old man making 60k and looking middle aged is absolutely attainable to the average 38 year old women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 06:36 AM
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A man with any level of positive regard towards women will reject the redpill. Sounds like you took a small part of it, being dominant, and left the rest. Unless you believe women are incompetent overgrown teenagers that you should use psychologically destructive methods on. You think you're redpilled... but are you? Would you be supportive if you found out your dad was dread gaming your mom and she spent every night crying with no self esteem? All to try and get laid a little more? That's the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 11:34 AM
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We also have options for relationships. Don't kid yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 08:12 AM
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Men who get women aren't running around trying to discourage that behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 07:43 AM
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omg. no woman gets used for sex once and thinks she got that man. also why are men SO obsessed with grinding this point to death. WE GET IT. 18 comments have already said this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 08:55 PM
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It's not that simple. People can be locked down only when they want to be locked down. You can be in someones league but the timing isn't right. The men who didn't want to lock me down were objectively not the "highest league" men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 08:48 PM
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Sure maybe if they never leave their bedroom. Every type of social interaction teaches you how to not get screwed over. Fake friends trying to use you is no different than a gold digger. A boss falsely promising a promotion is no different than being lead on. An ex friend who causes drama is no different than an ex lover. Family members disrespecting you is no different than a partner stomping on your boundaries. Social skills are just social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 08:28 PM
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Frozen sperm doesn't require IVF. They just pipe it into the uterus and bada bing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 08:14 PM
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You can be prochoice and anti eugenics. If you can't see the difference you're intentionally being obtuse and not arguing in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 08:09 PM
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But a lot of women get pregnant solely to get child support or baby mama support from a man. lol. "A lot"? No. Having a child costs more than the average 280 a month women get from child support. And let's not forget that average is being skewed upwards by rare wealthy outliers (so in reality... even less). Go look at the income level of single mothers, they're the poorest demographic. A FEW women have children for the child support. The rest just have no discernment and need the support.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 08:06 PM
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Unless a women is in your life right now making you angry enough to feel hatred, YOU are making yourself feel it. Stop engaging with rage bait, stop going down anger driven thought spirals. Women aren't causing your feelings. The "hatred" you're feeling is an outward projection of your shame. You need to heal your shame wound. Okay, so you can't get women. Neither could Newton. Go throw yourself in to difficult studies and build self esteem that way. Or start a charity and watch how your efforts…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 04:52 PM
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You've clearly never met a fat guy. Most fat guys I know project their self hatred onto fat women and DESPISE them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:39 AM
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- A man with zero understanding of women's internal thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 02:37 AM
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I disagree wholeheartedly. 99% of the time when someone hurts your feelings or does something that makes you angry, it's not intentional. People don't put that much thought into other people, they simply don't care enough. They act in their own self interest and sometimes accidentally step on your toes. No one is thinking about you the way you think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 12:32 AM
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You know you're selecting for higher body count right? Experienced daters know to act innocent and not to give it up. A girl with a big crush on you and limited dating experience is the one who's going to give it up early. The fact she had sex with you early means she hasn't been dumped for doing that before like the women who know better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 03:12 PM
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I once had a guy go in tongue first. Before his lips could reach mine his tongue was there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 02:40 PM
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OF is more akin to being a stripper which is already legal and not what we're talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 07:02 AM
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Yeah. People like hot people. How can you be mad about that when you also like hot people. Have you ever considered that you're the one who needs to get over themself? You have no right to be mean to people because we evolved attraction. It's not superficial, it's a primal mechanism of DNA selection hardwired into our brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 09:06 PM
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Obviously not guy 2. I would pick a polygamous marriage over guy number 2. If he can do it to another woman, he can do it to you. And he will. You need to go get professional help if you think this was a hard choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 08:19 PM
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Yeah no. The privilege women have when it comes to sex is because we're the ones who get pregnant. Pregnancy and periods and birth control already make up for the sex advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 03:48 AM
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Exactly. Men still have control over paying child support. Be diligent about birth control. Yes there's a risk of failure but financial abortion guarantees you'll be paying child support and it's not even your kids. FA seems fair in theory but is a worse situation in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 11:16 AM
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People change. You're assuming she's "giving him a chance" when she could actually like him. If you constantly work on yourself you'll find almost everyone who rejects you eventually wants you in the future. And I'm not talking about looks and money. I'm talking about self-respect, confidence, maturity, compassion, humor, emotional intelligence, story telling, reliability, honesty, integrity, self-control, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 12:18 AM
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Attention is validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:41 PM
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I honestly wish this were the case but its not. Women do it because we've been conditioned to base our self esteem on our appearance. We aren't lying when we say we look good for ourselves. The desire and obsession with looking good is actually a desire to feel like a human with value. I wish it was to attract high value men that would somehow be less pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:34 PM
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No it's the opposite. Alphas have no resentment towards women. Betas build up some serious resentment from years of rejection. Men who get women maybe act the way you're describing in their teen years but they quickly tire of it and grow up. Men who don't get women spend their adult years desperately trying to be the teenage fuckboys they envied. They degrade women long past the time when most people mature and start being decent to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 11:20 PM
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The men come with all those same problems. I'm a woman in my 20's and I'm not dating a bitter divorcee or a man with kids. No thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:51 PM
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When I was in college there were always people paid to try and get signatures on petitions. I would just ignore them and the women took it way worse than the men. I had one woman come and press her body up against mine and talk in my face because I ignored her. Women are no better we just don't get to experience women acting that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:28 PM
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Someone with the status of a celebrity could be open and honest about wanting to sleep around and still find a woman. This has nothing to do with getting what you want and everything to do with not deceiving others.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 01:18 PM
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Your science is outdated. There is an advantage to women sleeping around. It turns out that the egg picks the sperm. It's hypothesized that women make sounds during sex in order to attract more men so there is more sperm to choose from. More sperm means more options for the egg which means stronger offspring. By sleeping with a lot of men the egg is able to find a very genetically compatible sperm. Pregnancy is COSTLY. Better make sure all that sacrifice and time is going towards the best possib…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:52 PM
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I don't think it's that simple. I've never gone to a party and seen a man marveling at a dishwasher or passionately observing a vase. Men are always surrounded by things and yet they choose to socialize when given the opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:35 PM
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You can't actually believe men aren't interested in drama. Men gossip just as much as women. If you don't believe me go and do some research.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 12:14 PM
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No. Why do men keep saying this when they aren't the one's who are attracted to men. I start majorly losing attraction to most men around 30. By 30 most have a receding hairline and beer gut. Almost all people are physically their hottest in their twenties. You can develop other value to attract a partner but it isn't physical attraction. Think of it this way. A young woman has to chose a guy to sleep with from a picture and she isn't allowed to see him ever again. You think she's choosing a 40 …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 08:49 AM
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Are you attracted to men? If you're not attracted to men then you don't know how attractive men are to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 08:35 AM
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EXACTLY. Thank you. Women deal with the same feeling men get over body count but when we get upset it's labeled as insecure or crazy. It feels like being shot to see a guys ex is hotter than you. You spend hours and hours stalking her instagram comparing and hating yourself. ITS HARD. Or when he's jerking off to a woman online who is hotter, it sucks! Both genders deal with this but if you ask a man not to follow instagram models or use porn its "insecure and controlling". It's the same freakin …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:23 AM
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You're assuming he was lead to a moderate position through isolated logic when it was probably through experience. People with an active social life see a lot of diversity and variation in life. The moderate viewpoint was probably the only viewpoint that could account for all the social information he's gathered. He never said the moderate view is inherently superior. It's just obviously superior to people who actually socialize.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 11:08 AM
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The fact you're over the age of 25 and still lack the empathy to not use and hurt someone is concerning. Life is so much better when you love humanity and try to do your best by other people. Most people experience your "im so cool I can use people and brag about it" mentality in like their late teens but then we spend our early twenties growing, hate and regret who we used to be, and proceed with more care for other people. You're missing a huge beautiful part of being human.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:52 AM
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18 year olds are having fun. They'll talk to you for the attention and then throw you away in a second for a cute frat boy. No 18 year old girl wants to show up to a party with a 30 year old. They want the popular boys their own age and only entertain you for a second because they're bored. When I was 18 I used to give guys like you my number so I could spam them with the song "dinosaur" by ke$ha over and over.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:23 AM
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Clearly you don't talk to any women. Even a 65 year old woman can partner up if she wants to. Most men are average dudes who can't pull a 24 year old baddie. There are plenty of men at any age. The only thing that dries up at 30 is women's chance at a transactional relationship that exchanges hotness for money. People can find companionship and love at any age and any income as long as they socialize enough and only seek companionship and love in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:09 AM
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I mean yeah you can wait but you better be making GOOD money because you're competing with younger better looking men. The vast majority of men never make that amount of money. I'm a woman in my mid twenties and I wouldn't consider a 40 yr old unless they're pulling 800k+. My fiance makes 180K and he's 27. Also it's not just sperm, but the years and youth you have to give to your children.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 09:50 AM
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Societal standards come from men having more physical strength and enforcing their will on women. For most of human history women have not been able to act in their natural manner therefore society says nothing about women's evolved preferences. Monogamy and purity are MENS evolved preferences for women. Men and women have similar rates of infidelity these days so your theory is incorrect. Also men like large breast because of sexual dimorphism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 02:35 AM
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My family is mormon, an incredibly patriarchal religion, and the men I know would be disturbed by the red pill. When I met my fiance (who is still in the church) I was working on creating software so he secretly started his own project and obsessively worked on it so he could get experience selling software before I finished. He hadn't even expressed interest in me yet but he successfully completed my goal before me to be able to lead me in achieving my dreams. I have never been so dysfunctional…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 07:00 AM
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Agreed. I find pretty much everyone interesting. Reminds me of that quote "only boring people get bored."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 11:59 PM
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I cheated in my early 20's because I was depressed. I had two full blown boyfriends. I never felt like hot shit but I did feel momentary relief from my otherwise lonely existence. So I guess yeah it felt good? I was drowning so I sunk 2 men for a breath of air. The breath obviously felt good but there was no ego gratification. Honestly my self esteem was so low I never actually believed they could love me so I didn't understand the pain I caused until later. Im not proud of it and I've grown as …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 02:31 AM
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... I've never had someone publicly disrespect me in my whole life. Not hating but you need to look internally if this is actually a constant problem for you. Most people are nice chill people who try to be kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 11:59 PM
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You're the one being emotional actually. You think your dislike of women who have sex "logically" justifies sex shaming. Here is the real logic... even most active devout LDS women have sex before marriage. Sex shaming doesn't work. Sex shaming leads to women lying, not less sex. Something that doesn't work is an ILLOGICAL solution. You want blood, not results.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 11:56 PM
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Not to mention, most men cant provide on their own or can but resent the idea of providing. The few that are willing and able are competitive to attain. A single 50 year old women with children probably cant get a man like that. Most women with no children in their 20's wont get a man like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/22 04:29 AM
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Evolutionary fitness is all about surviving and adapting to the current environment. A tiktok model is bringing in a lot of resource and has a lot of social power so of course they are selected for. If society collapses and the tiktok model is no longer well suited for the environment, they will lose their appeal. We now live in the tech era. People who achieve social and financial success in it are the people who have genes we seek out. We aren't going to select for skills like hunting that no …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 08:41 AM
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That's one study. How about the study that showed a 5'7 guy has to make like 200k more than a 6ft guy to be as attractive? Women are not attracted to all types of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 08:20 AM
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I have a 21 year old guy friend who went to the doctor and got his testosterone checked because other men were bullying him for genuinely liking women as people. It's like men are trying to monopolize other mens affection and attention by bullying men who give it to women. I wonder if the guy who replied to you realizes you probably just got laid enough in your early twenties to desensitize yourself to the stimuli and now you need something more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 07:35 AM
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This is why I think unconditional love does exist. Its a long story but a guy I love badly betrayed me and messed up my professional life to further his own. He ended up winning awards, being interviewed on tv, wooing a semi famous actress into being his girlfriend, and getting incredible job offers while I got nothing. This happened years ago and I haven't responded to him since then and never will but I still love him for some unfortunate reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 12:58 AM
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Our leverage? Oh wow. Do you have no interaction with women outside of pornstars? You're talking about .01% of women like they're the only women that exist. Most of us just want a companion and RP men make bad companions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 12:35 AM
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He doesn't realize his priorities will change with age. Most men don't keep young women on a pedestal. My dad is rich so I know a lot of older rich men who have the ability to date any age and they would rather kill themselves than deal with a 21 year old. The ones that got divorced all aimed for mid-late thirties. Which is still 15 years younger but not THAT young.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/22 03:37 AM
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Social media popularity. Lip filler and bbls look really good in pictures but weird in real life. These women are after fame. It's why they imitate famous women even if men don't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 12:17 AM

Im not a man but I assume player type men try to hookup with low n count women because it's better validation. Men feel the most desirable when a typically sexually conservative woman is promiscuous just for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/22 07:44 PM
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We do. Because we don't want bottom tier men. So women and men have the same amount of pressure to be the best. Men have to be the best to get any mate, women have to be the best to get a mate that beats being single. Both genders have to be the best or be single. Same pressure, same outcome for failure to reach impossible standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 02:53 PM
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Man who says gross belittling things about women thinks he has to work harder to get mate because he's a man when it's really his personality, and other ground breaking stories at 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 02:50 PM
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No they don't they just say that because they're not invited. You're more vulnerable to false accusations alone at home with no witnesses than you are at a party full of people. Just don't leave with a drunk girl???
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/22 02:37 PM
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Acting bitchy makes it way worse. Men are attracted but they don't like you so they feel okay objectifying you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:40 PM
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It's almost like smart men are smart. They realize their happiness in a relationship has little to do with how young and hot the women is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:26 PM
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Also you can have whatever standards but you can't act entitled to having those standards met. Some men tend to think that being average entitles them to average women and that they're being wronged by not getting them. It doesn't matter how great you are, you are never entitled to another human.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 02:10 PM
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If she tells on herself its because you aren't worth the effort of pretending. If she's invested in you she's not going to risk it. Women aren't as stupid as you think. When she starts telling on herself, that's when you know the attraction has died. Do you really think she would bring up sex with other men to a guy she was infatuated with?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 10:58 PM
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If you lie on your resume and get an interview does that mean the job is weeding out people who tell the truth? Women aren't selecting for liars, women are trying their best to weed out liars and getting fooled sometimes. Good luck ever having a meaningful relationship. You can't keep lies up for long.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 10:41 PM
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There are. I can give you some tiktok accounts if you're really interested. The difference is that the content is all about how to not be used by men, not how to use men. Men's content can be very predatory and I've never seen an equivalent to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 10:31 PM
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What a poor comparison. Men can also be a victim of revenge porn. That law is to protect men as well. Go watch the Netflix doc "the most hated man on the internet" and listen to the messages of men who had their nudes posted. How would you feel if everyone you knew could see a picture of you naked without your consent? This is a BAD take.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 10:27 PM
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Negging is NOT a turn on. It's so obvious once you learn to spot it and then I immediately see the man as pathetic for doing it. Make her want your approval because she's impressed by you, not because you tried to tear her self esteem down.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 10:20 PM
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Attractive men have no resentment towards women. Even if they encounter a terrible woman they have an experience buffer to keep them from generalizing to all women. Average looking guys pull one girl out of their league, get their heart broken, and write about how all "staceys" are the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 10:08 PM
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Chris Brown and Dr. Dre still have successful careers. Can we just accept that no one ever truly gets cancelled and stop cherry picking evidence to make it a gender issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 09:55 PM
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Interesting defensive mechanism. If you're not guilty on some level then stay on topic and stop deflecting by being intentionally obtuse. These tactics work because they're emotionally destructive. You're okay doing that to other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 08:29 PM
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I don't think anyone wants to get fat. They just want a partner who won't leave them if it happens. Every fat person I know hates that they're fat. It seems like something borderline uncontrollable is driving their behavior because why would they choose misery. I used to have an eating disorder that made me really underweight and to say starving was my choice is unfair. Sure ultimately it was but it was driven by insanely intense anxiety and guilt. I assume getting fat is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 04:33 AM
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Lol there's no shortage of male gold diggers. Women aren't "attracted" to money either. We fake attraction for the money. A lot of men will also pick money over attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 03:37 AM
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Would you hold this same stance if I published a guide detailing how to manipulate men with emotional pain in order to get money out of them? Its nbd right, its up to individual discretion? Some may even call it empowering to women. Me on the other hand, I would call it morally weak and kind of pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 12:32 PM
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I studied electrical engineering which is a sausage fest and I got zero help or guidance because everyone thought like you and assumed I was being handed everything. I had to get my very first research project published with zero feedback from my professor. If I asked for any guidance he would ignore my email. I did it and I could tell he was pissed and wanted me to fail. You're underestimating how much young attractive women are resented and set up to fail by men who can't sleep with them and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 06:33 AM
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Maybe it's because the hormonal process of falling in love drops a man's testosterone levels for 1-2 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 10:46 PM
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As women gain more economic advantage we might see a societal shift where pulling young hot men is seen as a status symbol the same way it is for men. In that case women will do it in order to flex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 10:02 PM
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This guy is definitely just mad he didn't get any matches. I once switched my dating profile to women to see what the competition was like and I've never felt so insecure in my life. Some people are homebodies that doesn't mean theres something wrong with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 09:52 PM
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Shame is the most toxic human emotion. He triggered shame in you by ignoring you and you're engaging in defensive mechanisms not to feel it. The only real bandaid on shame psychologists have found is talking about it to someone and having them respond with empathy to you. Which I suspect is the subconscious motivation behind this post. I had a friend who handled shame just like you and would push his off-putting behavior to the max. Maybe intentionally being rejected gives you a relieving yet fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 06:08 PM
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Is it testosterone or is it men being emotionally immature. When I'm lonely I think about stringing along a guy who is whatever just to fill the void but then I remember other people have feelings that are just as important as mine and doing that might seriously hurt the guy. In my college years I did string men along but then I matured. Men who are 25+ and still acting that way are embarrassing. Stop hiding behind sexual urges as an excuse and just admit you're selfish and don't care about othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:22 PM
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Don't. TRP takes its advice to an immoral place because men couldn't filter out their anger at women when making it. Focus on your leadership skills and confidence. Being seen as a leader will get you enough attention to learn how to flirt in a way to turn women on. Blanket advice won't help you, you need experience to gauge when a women will be receptive to dominant escalation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 05:00 PM
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Ugly people pair up with ugly people. They aren't doomed to be alone. Society doesn't tell ugly people they're going to end up with someone gorgeous. You're overly cynical and you think its "logic". It's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 06:29 AM
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Wrong. What he demonstrated was desperate status seeking behavior. He loudly rejected her so other people would know someone wanted him. People with status behave much classier than this. ESPECIALLY with the younger generations. Being a dick doesn't work anymore it just makes you seem pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 05:37 AM
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Yes it is. If you date a girl I consider beneath me then I'm going to think I'm too good for you. You're better off playing hard to get than demonstrating you can only pull less desirable women. Also if you do this in a small enough community you'll destroy your reputation. The whole appeal of taken men is that they're committed and loyal. I've seen guys try the "date their way up" method and if you aren't super desirable to begin with, the girl you just used is going to ruin your chances with e…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 03:59 AM
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You've incorrectly assumed intention where there is none. The lust hormones don't last forever. So yes, sometime after normal commitment happens her lust hormones die down but it's not because she "successfully trapped you". Your behavior also becomes less desirable to woman once your hormones wear off.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 06:55 AM
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Upper class men don't give their wife an allowance. If he's so stingy he won't give his wife access to his accounts I promise he's not rich enough for money to be a motivating factor in divorce. The scraps she'll get are not enough to make her feel comfortable in that decision. Men with motivating amounts of money have options and actually end up with women they like. Giving an adult woman an allowance shows a deep resentment/ lack of respect for that woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 06:32 AM
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Obviously. You can't bring nothing to a relationship. Men with money are providing something. An unemployed man who doesn't step up in other ways? A parasite. You're not ready for an adult relationship if you can't understand reciprocal give and take. Women aren't leaving unemployed men who take over the domestic work while she's the sole provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 06:01 AM
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If you're going down the manipulation route, I say do the opposite. Tell women you're waiting for marriage. A certain type of girl will think its a hot challenge to try and corrupt you. She'll chase the ego boost of getting such a good christian boy to break. You gotta play it right though and seem really pure hearted and like a family values guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/22 06:54 AM
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Getting hookups is more about being in the right environment. A girl who won't give you the time of day in a coffee shop might hookup with you at a party because she feels like "doing something bad". It situational and you're not in the right situations. You need a wild social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 08:06 AM
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No. Like 10% of men had multiple women. Why? Because they had the power. If I were in that position I would have multiple husbands. Your argument incorrectly assumes women would be any different if the roles were reversed. We wouldn't. We would also be worse to men who cheated because it's our world.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 07:34 AM
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High tier men don't use women for sex. High tier men already have a steady stream and aren't going to waste their time deceiving you. It's average men who are trying to pretend they're high tier who use women for sex. Rich men and attractive men are always upfront and careful not to lead people on. Average men with big egos are the ones to be wary of. Also, not every guy wants stereotypical feminine behavior. Most guys I know are bored by women like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 07:22 AM
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Humanity doesn't have a great track record with handling differences. I would go as far as to say humanity is detrimentally bad at handling differences. Go look at any comment section on a video about gender differences. It's a warzone. Society is tired of fighting against idiots who cherry pick evidence to be bigoted. It's easier to just not acknowledge gender difference in the same way you don't bring up politics around your alcoholic uncle who rages and ruins the whole night.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 08:56 AM
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In the west we simultaneously treat men like absolute shit while making them entitled. We tell men that masculinity is power. And you will get that power when you are a man. Suppress everything you feel, be tough, work, take the suffering. Men do it and at the end... the power they were promised is never delivered. The men feel as though they are still owed power. And that right there, is a dangerous man. That is how you make a mass shooter, a rapist, a domestic abuser, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/22 07:54 AM
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Don't mind him he's just a man engaging in his base biology trying to prevent women from siring the offspring of other men and because he can't overtly stop women he's trying to use fear based methods to stop us. Love is the last thing men have to hold over us to try and insure they reproduce and fulfill their driving subconscious biological imperative and oh boy do they hold it over our heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 07:44 AM
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These men have no real world experience and say the most out of touch things. Hot men don't have sex with unattractive women. Why would they? They can hit up a hot girl in their phone and have sex with her. It's mostly average but a little attractive men who can't actually behave the way hot men do who have sex with ugly woman. This is 6-7 in looks male behavior, not top tier male behavior. These men be lying to themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 07:25 AM
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Show me something worth keeping my legs shut for. Funny how men claim they're leaders and problem solvers but when it comes to gender relations they refuse to take the lead and solve the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 07:19 AM
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Are you narcissistic? The worst dates I've ever been on were always with very accomplished men. I went on a date with a 25 year old whose dad owned a huge insurance company and bought him an entire fast food chain for getting his bachelors. He walked in front of cars and made them slam on their brakes, spent thirty minutes debating that morality isn't real so he doesn't have to be a good person, he taught an online course he started about how to get rich when his dad handed him everything, and h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 06:11 AM
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But he didn't face any criminal charges? The court is 100% innocent until proven guilty. It's why almost no rapists face charges, the crime is too hard to prove. Cops often take the victim to jail to keep them safe. On prom night my best friends mom beat her so badly the neighbors called the cops and my best friend spent the night in jail in a prom dress. When it comes to social reputation, innocent until proven guilty has never existed. It equally sucks for women. I lost my first job out of col…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:54 AM
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Why are you attacking me I didn't even do anything. Being obsessed with male attention made me love engineering and now I make bank but you have fun with your mental health or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 06:26 AM
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I get it. Men want to feel important to women. Being told that you're no longer wanted because you're not the only source of money is painful. Don't take this sub too seriously. We're all a bunch of weirdos who sit around trying to logically debate human emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 06:14 AM
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Want is a weird word here. It's like saying most men want a porn star hot girl with a dude personality. Yeah sure, but most men accept reality. So yes, most women want a rich man who can be trusted to provide for them forever without ever holding it over her or being corrupted by the power... but we also accept reality. With unattainable fantasy put aside, most women DO want to provide for themselves over dealing with how average men handle financial power.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 05:48 AM
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You won't understand until you experience it. At my last job we hired a fresh grad a few years younger than me and she was really insecure about making a good impression. I was switching fields so I didn't need to climb the corporate ladder. Everytime I came up with a good idea I would have her help in any way she could which usually wasn't much and give her equal credit to our bosses. I worked with her for months until she was the best new hire we ever had. I just thought she was a good person.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 11:19 PM
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Ah yes, my matching sun tattoo I got with my best friend since I was 11 to celebrate our best friendship. Super hard. Lead me straight to snorting coke off dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 10:04 PM
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I also wait longer with men I like. If I have sex with a guy I like I'm opening myself up to a way stronger heartbreak. It's not because I see him as less sexually attractive it's because I don't want to cry in the shower for the next four months.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 09:54 PM
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Feeling sexually desired is not a part of Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Feeling loved is. Theres more types of love than passionate lustful love. If you have close friends and family that need is met.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 10:18 AM
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But women don't want the vast majority of men. The men we want care. The men we want have options, and theres A LOT of pretty women in the world. Having a good career is an indicator of intelligence, something men want in a woman they reproduce with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 09:55 AM
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Approaching as a woman is a recipe to get used. Men don't turn women down, they play along to get benefits. Most men who would use you are too lazy to actually pursue you. Which is why the initial courting process is unfair to men. I understand that women sometimes play along to get free stuff but our monkey brains don't understand birth control so women are way more cautious of being used for sex than men are for being used for some meals.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 09:17 AM
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What qualifies you to speak on this like its a fact? I spent years doing electrical engineering research. The only noticeable gender difference was in confidence, but research quality was the same. And thats not my opinion. Why don't you go read some research with gender blinded performance ratings of engineers. Theres no gender difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 09:21 PM
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Yes it can you just want to feel special and needed by woman. You don't see the emotional bias behind your belief?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 08:41 PM
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Maybe some people but other people are more accepting of differences and wouldn't be phased in the slightest. I used to work in neuropsych so I spent 8 hours a day with neurodivergent people. None of the behavior you described would seem odd to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 12:44 PM
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Men are a mutation of women. If women needed men there would be no men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 11:49 AM
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Your link just says women take more antidepressants. It doesn't say anything about their relationship status. You're just making stuff up. Also depression isn't "bad feelings" its a nothingness and you need the meds to get the motivation to fix anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 11:41 AM
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Um what? So what is motivating woman? We don't expect sex from achievement. How about we stop raising men to think sleeping with woman is success and raise them to chase some other purpose in life??? If men don't go to school because it doesn't guarantee them early sex then I have no sympathy and good riddance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 11:30 AM
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Young women want popular men their age with a fun similar aged social circle. It doesn't matter if the man keeps himself in shape. On a day to day basis she's going to have significantly less fun dating an old guy. Imagine bringing a 40 year old man around your 22 year old friends. There's no amount of money I would tolerate that humiliation for.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/22 10:33 AM
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That's not an alpha. Thats a narcissistic asshole. Yeah narcissists are good at emotionally manipulating what they want from people. You men throw the term alpha around so much but have you ever bothered to look at any research on the actual observed characteristics of primate alphas. Alphas take on the most stress for the tribe, receive the least reward, and are characterized by moral fair behavior. But yes, they get the most mating opportunity. Im sick of you narcissistic little boys with no h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 10:48 PM
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No. Men always say this and just no. Women with a high n-count usually sleep with men they don't care about dating. Sleeping with someone you actually like and getting strung along is painful, why would I do that? The goal is a fun time not emotional torture.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 12:21 PM
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I would be fine with that. He obviously learned theres consequences to not properly getting to know someone before getting serious. Thats way better than him being incapable of learning from mistakes. Someone who grows and learns to take care of themselves is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 12:06 PM
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Research shows that all of the qualities you consider "high value" don't lead to more happiness. The only reliable predictor of happiness in a relationship is the ability to make yourself happy. You act like she's losing ultimate joy but the only thing she's losing is a status symbol. If she can make herself happy she'll be happy with anyone, and if she can't she'll be happy with no one. If being a slut makes you happy might as well do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 04:08 AM
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It's similar. They're both the people who get settled for and used, not genuinely desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/22 03:04 AM
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I'll answer. I also feel like men who say this stuff are entitled. Reproduction is so unfair to women. We are solely responsible for sacrificing our bodies to carry on society. I would trade positions with men in a heartbeat. Your biggest problem with reproduction is child support. If I were a man, even if I didn't like the woman I would optionally pay child support because thats a life I just created. The only thing men have to contribute to continuing society is some money. And you all actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 12:02 PM
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That study says men do less homework. School is mostly busy work. It doesn't matter if they have the same level of ability, the one who does their busy work gets a higher grade.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 11:02 AM
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Not strange. The best manipulation tactic is hope. Figure out what someone wants but doesn't have, offer them hope of having it, and you just gained a "follower". It's how people build cults. He was an online cult leader, not someone giving genuine good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 02:27 AM
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Yeah duh. The difference between being full of yourself and just knowing your value is whether or not you actually have the value. If you walk around acting like you're hot when you're ugly then you don't have the value.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:15 AM
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You can overlook the statistics because they have nothing to do with the point. A lot of lower end jobs are WAY more work than higher end jobs. Have you worked in a restaurant, they have the motto "if you have time to lean you have time to clean." Now I work in data science, from home, chilling in pajamas, doing math that is stupid easy to me at this point. Most higher end jobs are less work. This has nothing to do with male suicide or homelessness.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 05:25 PM
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I think the dehumanization is intentional in order to avoid feeling guilty about misleading women and emotionally crushing them just to have sex. It's a defense mechanism that allows men to do terrible things to women and still view themselves as a good guy. A man will rape a woman and think he's not a complete piece of shit because "look at what she was wearing". Humanity would greatly benefit from men doing some introspection and no longer allowing that defensive mechanism to shield them from …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 12:17 AM
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Eventually stop being lead around by your penis Realize you chased away the only woman you've ever felt deep love for because jaded men on the internet made you afraid of love Spend the rest of your life trying and failing to replace her Wallow in your meaningless existence desperately trying to find some purpose through work Suddenly you're old and then you die next to a woman you never felt that deep soul touching kind of love for Most people settle in life. If you find meaningful love, don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:19 PM
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Yeah but thats like expecting chocolate cake to cure your depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/22 03:04 PM
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Can we please retire this narrative. It's inaccurate, and if I see someone parrot this one more time I might scream. There's this thing that exists, and it's called love. When you love someone you want to spend time with them and do nice things for them. You would never think of spending time with someone you love as putting in effort. ITS SUPPOSE TO BE ENJOYABLE. You like having her around, and you want to keep her around forever, so you get married. Relationships aren't effort in exchange for …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 11:51 PM
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So child rearing and home making aren't working? What do you do thats so difficult it counts as work? Type numbers into excel? Answer emails? Pass data between two classes? Just because your menial bullshit is salaried doesn't mean you are doing anything more difficult. You're acting like you're obligated to have a sahm. If you can't accept that a woman working without pay for her family entitles her to half the money, then only pair with women who work.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 11:04 PM
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Someone having a big ego has zero impact on you. The only people bothered by a large ego are people with a large ego who think the other person should recognize them as superior. Once you achieve a healthy ego you'll stop being trigged by people with overinflated egos. You'll realize they are terribly insecure and coping the only way they can and leave them alone. Literally no one is in contact with reality but you fail to recognize that within yourself. We all have delusions to help us cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:32 PM
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"Female-centric system". lol so this is the male version of women who believe in the patrichary. If you were a woman you would be a radical feminist, I hope you know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:25 PM
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Is feminism non optional in university? Yeah I'll give you that. And even though professors are protected by tenure for this exact reason, the blowback to antifeminism in academia is still a force to be reckoned with. But you realize a lot of people authentically believe in feminism right? Assuming all people are only feminist because of indoctrination just because you were is short sighted projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/22 10:11 PM
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I've had a guy use dread game on me. I just want you to know that its a horrible experience. Maybe you don't care, but that shit is soul crushing. It will work for a while, but once she realizes you're intentionally hurting her, its over for you. She will never forgive you. She will think you are an irredeemable piece of shit for the rest of her life. So think twice before you do that shit to someone you care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:14 PM
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I remember reading about some country where almost all the men died in war so women were taking classes trying to outcompete each other for the few remaining men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/22 08:02 PM
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These women are usually the significantly less accomplished partner of an accomplished man. They spend all their time in a social network where they are the bottom of the totem pole and disrespected. Anyone who tries to grab power from a customer service worker is someone who is deeply powerless in their world.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 06:28 PM
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Respectfully, your point is fucking dumb. Most men with power also face no consequences. It's strange how desperate everyone is to be the victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 12:12 PM
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Fun fact. Research shows falling in love decreases prefrontal activation in men and women. So falling in love literally makes us stupid so that we'll ignore logic and make a baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:08 AM
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But men aren't more individualistic. There's no evidence of that. You just want to believe that to feel superior. You think bringing up antisocial behavior hides your intention but it doesn't. Believe it or not, antisocial aggressive behavior in men IS CONFORMITY. Resisting conformity as a man would be doing something like crying at work when a coworker is mean to you. And you would NEVER do that. Because you're just as driven by conformity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 11:04 AM
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I think we're more similar than different. We're conscious beings desperate for some sort of meaning and purpose, tortured by our morality, lost in the mundane pattern of life and coping with it by adopting delusions. As proof of our similarity I present the fact that you just assumed what women believe in order to critique us for thinking we know what you believe. We're truly one in the same :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 11:46 AM
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Unless you're a conservative. Conservative men are officially banned from my vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 11:15 AM
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I think I get what you mean, but your perspective is still too egocentric. These women went out together to have a fun time. They want to find a group of men with comparable numbers so that everyone can get attention. Women can't leave other women on a night out. If you flirt with one women, the rest of the group still wants to look for men, and she's going to get pulled away. You perceive the other women also wanting attention as "jealousy" but women can easily find a situation with equal atten…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 01:09 PM
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Should it be treated the same when the consequences aren't the same? Women aren't going out and shooting people because fds validated their hatred. I don't give a shit about equality in banning subreddits if it means even one person gets shot. Lives are more important than subreddits.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/22 09:24 AM
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I disagree. Men don't want a submissive doormat. In fact, higher powered men are more likely to be submissive in their romantic relationships. Men who seek control over women do so because they feel a lack of power of their lives (redpilled men). Men with a stressful amount of power seek a women who can lovingly take all the power. High value men want you to be submissive in public and dominate in private.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 04:39 AM
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Have you considered you're confusing emotional needs with sexual needs. Society has taught you to gauge your self worth based on how many women you can have sex with. Do you need sex, or do you need to feel desirable, to feel like you have value, to feel important. Do you NEED to get women or do you want your peers to see you as a man who gets women. Men don't go to the strip club to fulfill their need for sex, the strippers don't do that. Men go to the strip club to be with their friends, payin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/22 12:44 PM
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Then be a bitch. I'm a bitch to men. They love it. Men treat me better when I'm not too nice to them. Theres no limitation on the type of girl who can act that way. I'm shy and nerdy, still a bitch to men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 12:59 PM
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No. It's one hundred percent about feeling better than the other girl. I've had multiple women who were jealous of me try and sleep with my boyfriend. I've had one women succeed as well. Did she want him after I dumped him? Nope. She wanted to feel sexy enough to ruin my relationship. The ego gratification men get from sleeping with an attractive girl, women get from sleeping with her boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 06:36 AM
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I think you should talk to some women before you theorize how we think. Women don't worry about losing "pussy power." You're projecting your desire to have sexual power over women onto us. I want one man to have an awesome life with and for almost every other man on the planet to leave me alone. The fact you think women sit around lamenting the loss of men who view us as replaceable by SEX WORK is crazy man. You have a semi sociopathic view of the world and you're projecting it wide and far.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 06:20 AM
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They want to pair bond, they're just terrified. The issue is that they lack trust in themselves. They don't trust themselves to be okay and have the emotional skills to heal if a women damages them. People who can trust themselves emotionally understand the risks in dating, but they know they'll be okay if they get left, and the reward is worth the pain of finding. The men you are talking about lack either the emotional support system or emotional coping mechanisms to handle heartbreak before it…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 10:42 AM
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Hook ups are pretty meh. The only thing a hookup could make you numb to is emotion due to the novelty of sex itself. The magic you feel when you have a real connection with someone, the longing, daydreaming, obsession, horniness, a hookup can't make you numb to that because a hookup doesn't even make you feel that. The only thing a hookup can ruin is relationships without passionate love, because you can't bank on novelty for excitement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 10:29 AM
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Humans are hierarchical and wired with the desire to gain status. Women and men both ignore their true feelings in order to chase status through their mating decisions. The type of mate that affords status will obviously change cross culturally. This behavior also tends to diminish with age. The point is that narcissism at healthy levels is not a problem, it's important to our species. The desire to gain status drives pro-social behavior, ingenuity, and hard work. It obviously has downsides as w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 10:01 AM
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What you are failing to understand is that women aren't stupid, we know our transactional options will dry up, we just don't want those options. Society beats the idea that we're worthless once we age into our minds so hard that its actually hilarious you think women don't know. It's a core feminine wound. I know multiple women who cried on their 18th birthday because they felt old. EIGHTEEN. Women don't care if we lose the opportunity to date men like you who reinforce that wound. Being alone i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 06:17 AM
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