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FundamentalsAnAngelOfVengeance/r/seduction09/02/22 07:58 PM
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Outer Game AnAngelOfVengeance/r/seduction08/02/22 08:31 PM
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Oh that’s perfect then. Just make sure he knows your tastes. Even if he actually likes chubby girls, he can’t talk to the hot one, bc she’ll just assume he likes her. But another issue is if he’s talking to the chubby girls and is having a ball, the hot girl is going to actually start getting attracted to him bc he’s not into her and she’s used to being the queen bee and everyone being into her. The chubby girls will of course be SUPER into him by default bc it’s such a treat for them to be the …
/r/seduction19/02/22 10:49 PM
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It doesn’t really matter, if he’s a good wing he’s a good wing, if he’s a bad wing, he’s bad. A chubby chaser is either less likely to start breaking down under slimmer, ‘hotter’ girls, or if he’s a chubby chaser bc he thinks that’s all he can get, he’ll break down even quicker than a normal guy. All that matters is that he keeps his focus on your success, you focus on his, you both project status and reinforce it towards each other, and that you get out of each other’s way.
/r/seduction18/02/22 08:56 PM
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I think you did a pretty good job, esp for first time. 2 steps forward, one step back. The trick is to cut off all your escalations before she can, you need to resist yourself before she can resist you. They like that, leaves em wanting more. Remember, if she resists you: stop what you are doing but don’t directly engage. It’s no big deal to you, you are still in a great mood. -on your own volition, pull back to being in a completely normal, non-sexual mood. Still in a great, happy mood. -wait l…
/r/seduction11/02/22 11:14 PM
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sounds like a better day to do it than any other
/r/seduction11/02/22 10:51 PM
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In order: Look up Tyler’s 25 points article. That is a 10 min read that will double your game immediately. Google RSD tyler durden’s best posts, there are out there. One week reading his posts took me reaaalllly far. Google RSD The Blueprint Decoded. It’s a 75 page PDF and it’s the holy grail of inner game. Absolute god send. Go out and practice. For every 3 girls you lose by being too into them, lose 3 bc you blew them off too much. Fastest way to calibrate. That’s it. Reading takes about 2 wee…
/r/seduction11/02/22 09:12 PM
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A frame is the underlying interpretation of an interaction. People very subtly communicate their underlying beliefs via their frame. A typical chumps frame may be: “Attractive women are scarce, and it’s rare for them to like me. I need to make sure I don’t screw this up, I should do everything I can to keep her” (unattractive) A better frame is: “you are a cute girl, I am an awesome guy. I expect that you probably already like me bc people usually do. I’m trying to learn about you and is to see …
/r/seduction11/02/22 07:06 PM
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ELO is the score Tinder gives you profile in terms of attractiveness. It is based on how other people and their ELO score interact with you. A hot woman will have a high ELO. If she likes you, your ELO goes up. Other things like length of conversation, count of messages, length of texts she is sending add to this. Men with a high ELO move to the front of her backlog quicker. Also if you don’t have a high enough ELO you won’t even be SHOWN to high ELO girls bc they already know she won’t like you…
/r/seduction11/02/22 06:24 PM
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I think it is a turn on for most guys to be innocent and cute. Clumsiness and awkwardness = she probably has a low body count. If a girl knows what she’s doing too well, I’m like, yeah this girl knows what she’s doing and is probably just using me, can’t count on her being there tmrw, could poof at any moment. I actually think a lot of experienced girls have learned this and they try to ‘play dumb’ in bed to give the impression they are inexperienced. But if a guy has enough experience he can di…
/r/seduction10/02/22 05:07 PM
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personally, it’s a marketplace. we all should be the very best product we can be at all times. If someone switches from crest to colgate, is it fair to blame them? we would point the finger at crest. That doesn’t change until you make a vow, imo
/r/seduction10/02/22 12:18 AM
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Depending on how small your town is…you are better off going out of town on the weekends to practice. You don’t want to blow your reputation in town to pieces while you are learning and making noob mistakes
/r/seduction09/02/22 01:18 AM
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It doesn’t matter, it’s just to avoid the ‘who is this?’ or ‘I don’t remember you’ which are impossible to reply to. You can just say ‘scroll up’
/r/seduction09/02/22 12:59 AM
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Thanks man! glad it helped. Thats actually why I wrote it, as a crash course guide that we can give to future wingman-in-training so they can get up to speed fast.
/r/seduction08/02/22 11:53 PM
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I know man, that book is the fucking SHIT. And what’s crazy is it’s so obscure, it never even made it into publication. It’s kinda like the one ring from lord of the rings, fell outta someone’s bag and has just been laying there all this time just waiting for it’s power to be finally be discovered
/r/seduction08/02/22 11:29 PM
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I just wrote the ‘21 Rules of Winging’ post on this sub about 2 hrs ago so I’ll let that answer your question lol But the actual approach…always alone. always.
/r/seduction08/02/22 10:10 PM
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Probably 90%. Was probably 30% when I was a newb. Key difference was - make sure you qualify them and get into comfort, get the phone number and then keep talking to them for 5 more mins (don’t walk off like every guy does), text her immediately with your name and something cute ‘Kevin aka Prince Charming) so she can’t be like ‘who is this?’, later leave to go back to your friends. also… consider texting her in the bar when you’re back with your froends (she basically has to respond bc you are s…
/r/seduction08/02/22 09:48 PM
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I probably get numbers about 20-25% of the time and full close about 2-3% of my total approaches
/r/seduction08/02/22 09:33 PM
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1 - Read RSD's The Blueprint Decoded. Its like a 75 page PDF thats somewhere out there on the internet. Essential, transformational. Follow me. I comment tons of tips and tricks. I even just posted a post today on here about winging. https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/snu22h/21_rules_of_winging/
/r/seduction08/02/22 08:46 PM
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‘Elder sage’ here. Started in late 2000s, high body count, currently with a super hot and successful gf. When I post little tricks or concepts that I KNOW work (like I’ve used them with great success for years)…I got downvoted and trolled??? That at least tells me the experience / success level of most of the people on this sub. If you ain’t pulling AT LEAST one fresh girl a month who’s a 7 or hotter, shouldn’t be giving advice. Just my opinion tho
/r/seduction08/02/22 05:01 PM
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Omg these comments are so bad. I guess the PUA community really is dead. No game in sight. OP - you are exactly right. Clearly you actually are a practicing player not some wannabe. Women give you a window and they are far more forgiving if you move a little fast than if you move too slow.
/r/seduction07/02/22 06:47 PM
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Sure, you can pull that way. Just like I saw a guy double a hard 6 in blackjack against at 10 and he won. It’s just not your best play. If a guy is out there dancing, 9 times outta 10, he’s trying to pull ass by getting physical first before he knows the girl at all. Everyone else sees this and judges for it. Any girl who sees that, well, now it’s gonna be harder to win her over. Also getting physical first leads to girls poofing as soon as her buying temperature drops. It’s also CB city. Best p…
/r/seduction06/02/22 06:54 PM
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Guys looking down at you for dancing are letting you know that guys don’t really dance. That’s actually true, dance floor is a trap (says so in mystery method even and it’s true). If you just wanna dance no f’s given, do it and love it. If you are trying to pull…only dance if it’s with a girl that you met off the dance floor and then pulled her on to the dance floor (ideally she pulls you)
/r/seduction06/02/22 01:38 AM
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Gains weight. Entitled, demanding personality. Doesn’t want to know me, just sees me as what I can do for her. Sees male gender negatively at all. Tries to blame me or cast me in a negative light ever. Looking to shoot me down before I can shoot her down (insecure). Guilt trips or shaming. Passive aggressiveness.
/r/seduction06/02/22 01:34 AM
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you only lose a shit test by engaging it. A quick ‘nice’ followed by re-stating what you’re about to do ‘let’s go’ passes it.
/r/seduction05/02/22 01:14 AM
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My stack: 15-20 messages = number Some voice memos, 10-20 texts = FaceTime (attraction, comfort, ensure not a catfish) Date usually within a day or two. (Feels like a second date now bc of FaceTime) Sex: first date 80% of the time. But I have pretty good game. Still, your odds go down the longer it takes, momentum is key. She wants to feel swept up. If it takes longer, I’d step your game up.
/r/seduction01/02/22 08:55 PM
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If that’s happening you are going for the date request too early. Build attraction and comfort first. I’ve never had to wait longer than 3 days for a first date.
/r/seduction01/02/22 08:43 PM
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‘Hey Kevin, nice fake profile. What’s the best opening line a guy has used on you?’
/r/seduction01/02/22 08:32 PM
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For real. You can tell the real players by a few things. -they always downplay their body count -they never call girls sl*ts. they know who a girl is is usually determined by what kind of guy they are around. -they pay more attention to other guys than the hot girl across the room -they rarely explain themselves and almost never put an effort into impressing anyone.
/r/seduction01/02/22 05:05 PM
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It’s submissive. It tells people your life experiences have shown you that you can only expect to gain compliance from other people if you first submit to them. Submitting = powerless. Powerless people asking for something = begging / guilt tripping. People get annoyed with begging.
/r/seduction01/02/22 03:53 PM
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read basic mystery method on this. This is a pua channel, I’m not explaining Game 101
/r/seduction31/01/22 09:16 PM
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This whole post, especially the escalation part…is like the opposite of good game. Letting her set the terms. Taking 100% of whatever she is willing to give you. Asking for permission. Following her lead. She’s in total control right now, no wonder she’s in no hurry to hook up with you.
/r/seduction31/01/22 08:04 PM
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wtf is this comment
/r/seduction31/01/22 01:24 AM
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Honestly…I’m hesitant to do it even once I’ve been consistently hooking up with a girl. I don’t know why, it just really takes things down. The only times I do it are when she’s like fishing for it like ‘I look like trash today’ I’ll be like ‘pshhh you look dashing my dear’. OR I’ll compliment her looks if I am also complimenting MY looks even more. ‘God I look HOT today! ohhhh and of course, you look beautiful too’ Women are SUPER sensitive to being pedestalized and she’s heard look based compl…
/r/seduction30/01/22 06:46 PM
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PUA shit works, but you need to stick to the basics. I have pretty decent game (1-2 fresh girls a month) . Here’s the fastest way to get good: -read mystery method (breaks AFC mindset) -google and download the pdf of The Blueprint Decoded by RSD. -go to the bars and find a guy who actually pulls. it may take a couple weeks. Befriend him. This was my true secret sauce, I best friended a guy who pulls like crazy (1-2 a week with girls 7+). Validated the Blueprint learnings and shows you how easy t…
/r/seduction29/01/22 12:46 AM
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It works. It’s just that you are projecting your belief of what women should like in pictures onto the ratings you received . This is literally why the entire world of statistics exists. Get a 9+ photofeeler score and then tell me it doesn’t work
/r/seduction29/01/22 12:37 AM
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I went in a date with an attendant, went well. Get into the chick-crack type shit about the job like ‘Omg you guys must hear every pick up line ever’ ‘I got hit on by a male attendant once, it was so cool’. ‘When you really like a guy, how do you secretly let him know?’ ‘Omg a girl did that to me once! It was so awkward!’ Obvs get onto other subjects and weave. Chick 101: make it emotionally stimulating aka Lifetime Channel
/r/seduction29/01/22 12:33 AM
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Because their feelings about themselves are tied up in her responses to them. It’s called being Reactive.
/r/seduction29/01/22 12:30 AM
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Gotta move that shit forward before she gets bored. You have a window, you missed yours. Always better to move a little too quick than move a little too slow
/r/seduction29/01/22 12:26 AM
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playingwithfire channel on YouTube.
/r/seduction29/01/22 12:24 AM
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You have leaks in your game. you are reacting more to the girl your like and being unreactive to the one you don’t like. The whole game is being able to treat a girl you do like like a girl you don’t care about.
/r/seduction29/01/22 12:24 AM
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well you are due for some losses, never let it get you down, rejection is the price of entry
/r/seduction29/01/22 12:22 AM
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It translates VERY well to business, especially at an inner game level. Women like status and so much of Inner game is about having the belief structure and congruence of a high status person. Same in business, it’s about status and influence, that’s what sells. What I’ve realized is it’s ALL about being able to hold tension effortlessly. When you have an extremely deep belief structure you KNOW to be true, you will be able to do that. That is what makes people extraordinarily charismatic. TLDR …
/r/seduction29/01/22 12:20 AM
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It’s a no but remember bc you approached, you should grade it as a win.
/r/seduction29/01/22 12:14 AM
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This is a good list. Thanks for sharing
/r/seduction29/01/22 12:13 AM
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The skill set overlaps considerably imo. A guy with good game is good at 1. Keeping that spark of attraction 2. Making sure she feels qualified and appreciated 3. Eliminating insecurities that can create a toxic relationship. He’ll also solve issues better bc he’s experienced it before. Most importantly, the guy with game CHOSE her from amongst his options, that means he loves her and is invested. The other guy could be the same, but there’s always the chance he’s just with her out of desperatio…
/r/seduction28/01/22 07:50 PM
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Anything that blames women is the worst advice. You can never blame women, we are the leaders. Generals don’t run around blaming their troops.
/r/seduction28/01/22 07:16 PM
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Sort of. If a guy wants to only have 1 sexual partner in life, I’d never judge. But to keep her, he’s gotta have game, and to get that game he’s gonna have to practice on lots of girls. He doesn’t have to have sex with them, but he does need to build the skill.
/r/seduction28/01/22 07:13 PM
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Drop that whole ‘I’m not looking just for sex, I need connection first’ charade. That’s exactly why you are in the friend zone. You’re just taking a chicks line and selling it back to her, thinking she’ll be like ‘omg that’s exactly how I feel too… we have so much in common!’ but she ain’t never falling for it. It just means you hide your true desires and girls hate that. They don’t want another one of them, they want the opposite, a liberator that will lead them out of that cautious prison into…
/r/seduction28/01/22 01:42 AM
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Yes, big time if she’s hot. Don’t put it on your profile tho, anyone can get a desperation pic with a hot girl. It needs to be on your insta with follow on pics that show you actually know her. My current gf was sort of on fence about me until we ran into my ex out one night and she saw she was hot. Then it was a done deal.
/r/seduction27/01/22 03:22 AM
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Same, late 30s gamer here, used to crush in my 20s, got single last year and had to break off the rust, learn the new phone game. check out playingwithfire ‘s YouTube channel, that basically was the Bible for me for text game. other than that, the game is mostly the same. Key differences is it’s harder to break-thru to girls now, but they are easier to take to bed once you do.
/r/seduction27/01/22 12:45 AM
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All are good. 4 and 18 changed my perspective on things, very cool. Thanks man!
/r/seduction27/01/22 12:39 AM
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not like formal, but nice. Like what you’d wear to a white collar work happy hour. Pics are huge. It impacts your ELO a ton so they determines which girls even see you at all and how early in their queue you’ll appear. You should improve your pics until you are consistently matching with about 1 pts lower than what you can pull in real life in day or night game. You will generally get worse quality online so don’t expect better.
/r/seduction27/01/22 12:34 AM
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No but I had 6 and 7 pics and then finally got a 9.5 pic and it made a huge difference. It seems like girls really respond less to physical appearance than guys do but more to the ‘cues’ in your pics…being in a high class establishment wearing classy clothes. I’m the same old guy but that moved it up a bunch. Start getting a shit ton of good pics now bc you literally can’t have enough good ones.
/r/seduction27/01/22 12:14 AM
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Massively. It’s a must use imo.
/r/seduction26/01/22 11:44 PM
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Go thru a cards against humanity deck. Pick the 2 funniest cards that you think she would pick and would be hilarious to her. Then text her with a pic of it and be like ‘omg you would so play this…your mental spirit is apparently haunting our game rn’ I have a rule, I usually don’t give guys texts by the way, bc they always want more and then I’m gaming their girl not them and they can’t sustain it. But here I think it makes it clear. Keep it light and fun, resist the urge to pry into ‘hey so do…
/r/seduction26/01/22 08:28 PM
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you’re still thinking in terms of a goal. You need to be thinking in terms of her…empathetically. She’s blowing you off, memories of you and her have no positive emotional value to her like they do you…. only a negative value. Be fun and not needy. From all of this, I really do think you have one-itis and have some growth ahead of you in terms of not being needy and inner game. I would expect even if you get this girl back, you don’t have the game yet to keep her. I would drop the goal and just …
/r/seduction26/01/22 06:16 PM
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just something goofy. not tied to this relationship you are focused on, not trying to steer the convo back onto ‘you guys together’ ala ‘reminds me of our first date’. Bro you are gonna have to learn how to not be goal oriented and just actually chill, be outcome independent. Change her mood not her mind. If you bring this up, you’ll lose your 2 week silence investment gain. Don’t apologize…she’s not your boss. Don’t empower her frame. Right now she has the frame…. she is determining what’s righ…
/r/seduction26/01/22 03:34 PM
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No you are just digging it deeper. Her concern is that you are too invested, you are too into her. Hitting her up and apologizing is exactly what that guy would do. The best way to show that you aren’t that guy is to give her distance. Right now is a sort of test for you… will he flip out and call me names? Will he apologize and beg me back? Orrrrr did I maybe read things wrong and this guy just called his backup girl and is totally fine. Which of those is most attractive to a girl that is skitt…
/r/seduction26/01/22 03:11 PM
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Go out of town. No one knows you. It never goes away btw. It’s a muscle…gotta use it to keep it strong
/r/seduction26/01/22 04:15 AM
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Being congruent only works if you are being congruent to high status behavior. If you really think about what triggered your emotional reaction, I think you’ll realize it’s insecurity. That insecurity meant that those pictures ‘meant’ something special to you, and something about her posting them changed your perception of how much she liked you. I think it’s an inner game issue. Basically, confidence is assumed acceptance and it shouldn’t fluctuate no matter what she does, you assume she likes …
/r/seduction25/01/22 11:57 PM
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I think being defensive was a mistake, it gave her the frame. From that moment she felt like she was in charge and that usually turns them off. Analysis: It was a bid for compliance (don’t talk about your ex) and you simply dont have that level of investment from her yet. Pushing the issue forced her to realize ‘wow, this is a guy I don’t comply for’ and usually that takes it backwards. You also were the one trying to repair it and get her to stop being upset which further gives her the frame an…
/r/seduction25/01/22 10:46 PM
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You weren’t needy and she’s not seeing anyone else. You lost her when she accused you of being invested and you said you weren’t. You should be at least a little invested in her by now, that’s what she wants to hear. Correct response is ‘I mean I’m not like hearts in my eyes in love yet but yeah, of course I do like you’. When you said you weren’t, it rewinds the set on HER terms. It lets her lead, when that’s your role. Now she knows you won’t fight for her. Think about it, she’s out here tryin…
/r/seduction25/01/22 09:52 PM
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Voice memos are the best kept secret ever. Other than that, the basics. Playingwithfire on YouTube does some really good breakdowns. Goal of course is to get to the point that you call each other, that frees up the text time a lot
/r/seduction25/01/22 04:16 AM
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“The only thing we have to fear is fear (of loss) itself”. Only way to lose a girl is to be afraid to lose her. I’d assume there’s no way you can lose her, be a bad ass, take her there, and she’ll realize how much better things are with you. If you are apprehensive about it the whole time, she’ll have a worse time and she’ll realize maybe you aren’t a trade up. Have a fkn blast, be a badass, and now she’s gonna feel naughty to banging you where she used to bang her ex.
/r/seduction24/01/22 09:26 PM
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I don’t subscribe to the ‘if it’s not a fuck yes…’ thing. I’ve had lots of girls on the fence about me for a while. I mean, I committed far less to them and kept other girls in the rotation while they were deciding, but women are fickle… their mood changes often. Just gotta roll with it. I rarely write a girl off…there’s always a chance and always an open slot on my roster. They come around more than you think
/r/seduction23/01/22 03:24 AM
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yeah you should. in my experience as soon as you get another girl that’s when she’ll come back around. It’s the female spidey sense
/r/seduction23/01/22 02:58 AM
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she probably wants to get back together, thats why she said that
/r/seduction23/01/22 02:47 AM
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Meet at your place for like 5 mins then head out to the date venue (so she comfortable being at our place). Then back to my place after. Keep escalating, don’t miss your window with her
/r/seduction20/01/22 05:12 PM
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People who don’t approach don’t have game
/r/seduction18/01/22 10:39 PM
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umm women rarely make the first move. like, I’ve spent 3-4,000 hrs in bars, I am attractive, and have only been approached maybe 10 times (twice in Boston tho so if you live there). But since you asked, you need to wear a shirt that makes it easy for them to approach you with plausible deniability. Like ‘future trophy husband’ or a pink Hello Kitty shirt. She’ll say I hate your shirt but the fact she’s starting convo means she likes you and is a soft approach.
/r/seduction18/01/22 10:26 PM
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she likes you… just reply with ‘let’s shoot for Thursday night’. that takes the lead, and it doesn’t make it look like you have an empty week with full availability. Always assume the best, that she wants to go out with you bc you are awesome.
/r/seduction18/01/22 05:07 PM
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Easy… get a hotter girl and then let her find out
/r/seduction18/01/22 04:18 PM
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Started in 2007. If I had to teach my son now I would have him: -read mystery method. It’s not perfect but it’s breaks the AFC paradigm and it’s short -Read Tyler’s blueprint and all his top posts (KEY) -Find a guy who actually pulls and shadow him. -Avoid relationships for 3 years (you need this time to practice and improve) -write and take notes. That’s it. Took me about 6 months to pull my first girl, then it was 1 a season, then 1 every 6 weeks or so by end of first year, eventually 2-3 a mo…
/r/seduction18/01/22 12:10 AM
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Agree, cold approach builds real life skills which you will need when you take online girl on a date. When you are 2 mins into a cold approach, you are already beyond where you would be when you meet an app girl for a date.
/r/seduction17/01/22 11:59 PM
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Def not ‘it was nice meeting you’. you want secret conspiracy type stuff. ‘Omg this girl over here is boring the shit outta me’. ‘that guy in the orange jacket, hilarious. Love his confidence’. Then when you walk by her later you can make eyes at her. Build the mystery bro
/r/seduction17/01/22 10:36 PM
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Since 2007
/r/seduction17/01/22 08:10 PM
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Depends on the venue. I prefer to get the set solid, get the number, stay in comfort, but then on my own terms leave the set bc I really need to hang out with my friends. Shows I have a life and am not there to pick up girls. Pro tip! Text her and flirt with her while you are there in the venue! She basically has to respond. That makes the number extra solid. Then later, swing back by about 30 mins before close and it will feel like she’s known you forever and like you’re kinda on your first dat…
/r/seduction17/01/22 08:05 PM
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Man, I feel this. A little weed totally helps my game… but more than a little and I’m like Einstein over here analyzing everything I’m saying, thinking everything is stupid and I’m bombing. Totally paranoid and shit. Every time I thought I fucked it up bc I was high, it was just bc I was high that I thought I fucked it up. You’re probably aight
/r/seduction17/01/22 07:57 PM
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I came here to say exactly this. He’s right
/r/seduction17/01/22 07:55 PM
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Been there. You’ll learn a valuable lesson hopefully…it’s pretty damn hard to lose a girl by blowing her off. Like, amazingly hard. Just make sure you are compensating by being extra flirty/nice/sexy with them in your texts. That’s the secret sauce bro… Get ‘em hot like a rocket and then purposely miss chances to hang out with them. Makes them ultra into you. With just one girl, this takes a lot of discipline to do, bc you are denying yourself. But with multiple girls, you have to just bc of log…
/r/seduction17/01/22 07:52 PM
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Direct or indirect off the floor. Chat for a while, get number, keep chatting, make it solid. When you are ready to not talk to any other girls that night (towards the end of the night), I would take her out on the floor for a song or 2, then back to chat, then back to dance. That will help you with the pull, both bc it’s physical and bc you are moving her around the venue. Remember, most girls are gonna be hesitant with a guy who’s out there dancing with girls. That guy is either trying to pull…
/r/seduction16/01/22 11:12 PM
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The dance floor is a trap. Says it in mystery method and it’s still true. Pay attention to the guys you see leaving the club with girls they met that night. How many of them are out there approaching girls on the dance floor (vs taking a girl they were already talking to out onto the floor for a sec to dance)? Not many, if any.
/r/seduction16/01/22 09:53 PM
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It’s all about being cooler than the girl. Chicks are attracted to guys who are cooler than them, and cooler than most other guys. What do cool people do? Well, wannabe cool people do this by trying to make people ‘earn’ their acceptance, aka the ‘mean girls’ strategy. ‘Are you good enough for me…I’m super exclusive, I only hang out with the best, you need to earn me’. That doesn’t work, it’s just not cool, it just creates a frame-war that doesn’t get guys laid. Instead , be actually cool. What …
/r/seduction16/01/22 07:35 PM
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yeah, you are trying too hard to set a screening frame, this is a big mistake lots of intermediate gamers make. ‘I’m gonna make her prove herself to ME, I’m the prize’. It doesn’t work. Actually the best way to do that is to just to be nice to them, the thing a popular, socially well adjusted guy would do to anyone they didn’t really like. Aka curving. Same thing with saying ‘you do you’…it sounds too much like you are trying to be the prize, like you are more likely than her to next them first.…
/r/seduction16/01/22 07:14 PM
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lol ok bro. He literally asked ‘guys what is YOUR success rate of cold approach’. I gave him MY success rate of cold approach. A guy said I was lying, wanted to know based on what volume my percentages came from. I gave that. That’s it.
/r/seduction16/01/22 07:00 PM
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Eh, I use that line on all the blue-shirted mountain biking brunettes on here’ (substitute whatever is specific to her).
/r/seduction16/01/22 05:37 PM
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Nerves. First 5 girls I ever had, I couldn’t finish. I even fake an O one time. Just keep on, eventually you have so many girls you couldn’t imagine being nervous around one, you start to feel like sex isn’t you getting judged, it’s her worried about HER being judged.
/r/seduction16/01/22 05:30 PM
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Grade your pics on photofeeler. Relax. Women want guys who are getting laid so much they couldn’t imagine TRYING to get girls. That’s the key. You will eventually get laid a lot. Do yourself a favor and keep dating other girls once you have a gf (I know, it sounds crazy). But you want to do this bc you will naturally do all this ‘I don’t give a f’ type shit around them bc you don’t care bc you have a gf…and you will see how much they get attracted to that. You will blow them off and realize…they…
/r/seduction16/01/22 05:27 PM
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Don’t read into signals too much, way more attractive to just assume you are getting them. Strong enough frame and she will start to think she always liked you
/r/seduction16/01/22 05:21 PM
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Better to roll solo and than to roll with shit wings that will try to steal your sets. Find the guys who run the place and make friends with them, ignore their girls at all costs. Finding a good guy wing is 10x harder than getting laid, but a good one will get you 50 girls over the course of your friendship with him.
/r/seduction16/01/22 05:19 PM
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disagree - I've had lots of girls that were on the fence come around. you never know whats going on in her life, somethings just take time. I always keep girls in my line up, I just text them progressively less and less. Keeps me in practice and gives me girls to practice lines on. You'd be surprised how many times those girls just suddenly pop back up and want to hang. maybe she had another guy and just nexted him. maybe her friend just started hooking up with a guy and now she feels she has an…
/r/seduction14/01/22 08:53 PM
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Act like you get them all the time, do what a celebrity does. Say calmly, normally ‘thanks, I appreciate that’ then change the subject to whatever you want to talk about
/r/seduction14/01/22 04:10 AM
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Assuming you are hooking up with them all… I’ve had 3 before but it is super exhausting, you hit diminishing returns fast. Scheduling is a bitch. Also it kills your pipeline of new girls bc no time. I think 2 is the sweet spot, after that it’s one-in, one-out for me. It lifts your game a TON, you will see just how much you can blow chicks off and keep them (actually makes them like you more), you get clear boundaries bc you won’t put up with shit. Nothing ups your game like having 2 gf’s and goi…
/r/seduction14/01/22 04:05 AM
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when you are learning and getting shot down left and right but approaching more and more. It takes 500-1000 approaches to get smooth, but you’ll see results after about 100-150
/r/seduction14/01/22 03:57 AM
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That’s plenty big. Now, I wouldn’t spam approach daygame your college, practice first out in the grocery stores and stuff. You don’t want to blow yourself out while you go thru the hardest (but most fun) part of your learning process, the approach monkey stage. Once you get refined, you will find ways to ‘soft approach’ with random convo starters and then take it from there. You will learn super fast. Good luck man
/r/seduction14/01/22 03:47 AM
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I’ve for sure approached over 5000 women in my life. Probably 10k. I’ve never deleted a number and I currently have 3217 contacts in my phone, I bet about 1000 of them are friends, family, random co-workers, 2k girls numbers is probably about right. I usually get 1-2 a night, most I ever got was 7. I don’t know for sure man, I’m just estimating here, guy asked a question I gave my best answer
/r/seduction14/01/22 03:39 AM
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Hold the eye contact till they look away! Then go right over there. I pulled a 9 once bc we made eyes and I held it. First thing she said was ‘that was the hottest eye fuck I’ve had in a while’. Sealed the deal. Human language didn’t even evolve until like 10,000 years ago. So for 140,000 years or whatever, all the mating went down via body language, eye contact, and vocal tonality (grunts?). that’s why women instinctively respond to that stuff almost subliminally
/r/seduction13/01/22 05:35 PM
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Only 3 hr drive apart, check ‘em both out and decide. I personally think country dancing bars are the absolute easiest place in texas to pull. You’ll get a free pass for not being able to dance bc you’re a foreigner. you’ll need to find a stinkier cologne to cut down on the number of girls who want you.
/r/seduction13/01/22 05:28 PM
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It was common pua shorthand back in the day
/r/seduction13/01/22 05:25 PM
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I personally do not like it but I have a friend who lived there and crushed it. like buried in hot tail all the time. YMMV
/r/seduction13/01/22 04:02 PM
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Social circle game gets way harder out of college. Cold approach and online start to be more important. The closest thing is to build a group of good wings and become regulars at a popular bar. Make friends with all the owners, bartenders, bouncers, etc… be the coolest guys in the club. that creates a similar kind of social circle status thing that is similar to frat parties.
/r/seduction13/01/22 03:41 PM
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Big city: you win on leads…it’s so easy to get numbers. Problem is, every girl is also talking to 10 guys who are of good quality. I found it harder to convert numbers into dates and dates into lays in big cities. Logistics harder (same city but maybe you live 45 mins from each other). Also easier to have MLTRs/ cheat. Small town: so much harder to get leads. Rarely more than a couple bars, much less approaches and people will see you out and know you. BUT all your numbers are much more solid. R…
/r/seduction13/01/22 03:32 PM
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Ideally you want a place with a bunch of hot girls who aren’t really high class but think they are/want to be, and rarely see tourists. I would recommend Dallas. So many hot young boujie girls there. You would slay in texas. I have an Aussie friend who lives in Oklahoma, he’s late 30s and he’s done nothing but slay 25 and under hotties since he got there. Refuses to go back home now lol
/r/seduction13/01/22 03:20 PM
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relationships
/r/seduction13/01/22 03:13 PM
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Have a date, meet at your place before going out, have her come in for 5 mins before heading out while you ‘finish up’. Then push her out and into the date. Boom, now she is comfortable being at your place, much more likely to come back.
/r/seduction13/01/22 05:54 AM
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I wouldn’t be using my Saturday’s up for dates ever…that’s for new leads. She didn’t counter with another day so she gets left on read for a couple days until I feel like re-engaging. It’s her loss she said no, you have to wait days for a second chance with me. That’s not my ego, that’s just math, to the bottom of my leads she goes.
/r/seduction13/01/22 05:52 AM
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Daygame. You’ll walk into the club hot that night.
/r/seduction13/01/22 05:49 AM
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Umm this is the seduction sub, not the iwannagetmarried sub. Don’t worry about the future, let her figure that shit out if she likes you enough.
/r/seduction13/01/22 05:48 AM
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Interesting. Sounds like a really thick bitch shield. Odd she said ‘I almost ghosted you’, why say that if you don’t like someone? it’s almost like a hidden IOI, like saying ‘I hate your shirt’
/r/seduction13/01/22 05:46 AM
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Confidence is assumed acceptance
/r/seduction13/01/22 05:42 AM
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My best year was 28. 26-29 is amazing. I dated so many 22 y/o’s I’m pretty sure I set the world record for number of 23rd bday parties attended
/r/seduction13/01/22 05:41 AM
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Success in terms of what? I get numbers about 25% of the time, 2/3rds of those I never day2. Overall I probably fclose somewhere between 2-4% of approaches. Anywhere from 8-15 fresh pulls a year, depending on if i stay out of rels or not. I only go for 7s and up.
/r/seduction13/01/22 05:38 AM
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I mean having a better girl is what has always brought them back to me, and I would’ve taken them back except… now I have a better girl. that’s the chicken and the egg. Usually takes about 6 months. It actually kinda sucks bc they get super sad, knowing they broke up with you only to watch you find better. That’s the worst bc I still care for them but I can’t comfort them too much bc the new girl won’t like me being too close to them. But yeah, I’m my experience, there’s nothing other than that …
/r/seduction12/01/22 09:40 PM
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Watch the Russell brand video where he gets interviewed by the 3 news hosts. Exactly that. A man’s ability to get women is inversely proportional to how much he cares about what she thinks. The only way to weed that out is to talk to a bunch of girls and eventually it comes.
/r/seduction12/01/22 06:25 PM
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This is why voice memos for OLD are the best kept secret ever
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 06:01 PM
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It can be emotional, knowing you are there alone. How many times have you been with a wing but he was over there talking a girl and you felt totally ok? Prolly a lot. So just always tell yourself you aren’t alone, your best guy friend is just on the other side of the bar. Always. Also, don’t trust instawings unless they got their own girl, they will turn on you at the worst time. Only thing worse than rolling solo is rolling with shit wings. Good luck.
/r/seduction12/01/22 04:51 PM
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Done this several times, same way every time. Start dating someone else better and hotter. It’s a chicken and the egg problem tho… the thing that will make her want to come back is also the thing that will make you not want her back anymore.
/r/seduction12/01/22 04:35 PM
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Talking slow with lots of pauses is one of the greatest game hacks. Esp combined with neutral or occasionally breaking rapport tonality. It also makes you feel less nervous.
/r/seduction12/01/22 04:32 PM
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LJBF = showing too much interest combined with not creating a sexual vibe. Do the opposite and you will get much better results - be sexual and flirt but pre-emptively blow them off, don’t show too much interest in them… they will go wild for you. It’s not your looks, I’ve seen some seriously ugly guys pull quality with quantity
/r/seduction12/01/22 04:28 PM
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Agree. OP, you are losing them as soon as you get a goal, as soon as you are afraid of losing them. Women can sense that and it shifts the power to their side. Anytime they think they have power, their instinct requires them to test hence the pulling back, shorter texts. You aren’t passing that test and they learn that the switch has flipped from them chasing to you chasing. You can never carry the burden of the goal with a girl. She will literally do all the lovey build-a-rel stuff herself with…
/r/seduction12/01/22 04:16 PM
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