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My wife was a feminist when I married her, and she's not anymore. Guess how that happened? The grace of God. Let me guess, you were going to tell us that your Alpha Mindset™ converted her. lol Your second paragraph is just cringe. An absurd number of Christian couples have dated long-distance and then got married. But some RP bro says its not a real relationship and its all make-believe. OK. :thumbsup:
/r/RPChristians01/05/24 08:59 AM
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"Because of the hardness of your hearts"... probably want to read Matt. 19 before you get too trigger-happy.
/r/RPChristians01/05/24 08:19 AM
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Well, no, its not, because that we're not living in the Old Covenant. #theologyfail
/r/RPChristians01/05/24 08:17 AM
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A commentary on your insecurity and inability to forgive. And, no you don't get to hide behind an abrogated law in Deuteronomy.
/r/RPChristians01/05/24 08:16 AM
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Preach.
/r/RPChristians06/08/23 06:39 AM
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Only a guy who has never been the object of female lust would write that. Oof. True, though. Agree with everything you wrote, and I can't stand Doug Wilson for many other reasons (especially his association with federal vision), but do note that its 'complementarianism' and not 'complimentarianism'. :)
/r/RPChristians06/08/23 06:35 AM
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Congratulations, this has got to be the dumbest take I've read on this sub, and that's saying something.
/r/RPChristians15/07/23 04:38 AM
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Jesus didn't have sex at all, bud, so "WWJD" isn't going to lend much insight here.
/r/RPChristians27/05/23 08:47 PM
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Only an insecure man rushes to protect his girl when a guy is hitting on her. If she actually reciprocates, well, now you know to dump her. Watching your girl get hit on and rejecting the advances is a great feeling.
/r/RPChristians27/05/23 07:41 PM
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This was confusing to read. I can't tell whether you're promoting or mocking choreplay. Choreplay is fine if you're OK with sexual activity being a contractual arrangement rather than based on actual sexual attraction. If you want the latter, then leadership and physical fitness is what you should aim for, obviously. Personally, as I leave the blue pill mindset, I have decided to do chores simply because that will make the household run more efficiently. I'm not married, but if I was, I don't wa…
/r/RPChristians27/05/23 07:36 PM
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I shouldn't have because hey if you're embarrassed there's probably a good reason for it If you have a Performance Christianity mindset, then sure. The idea of rating our spiritual development, like we can objectively measure our success in that area, should give us major pause, though. We're told to bear fruit in scripture, but exactly what that fruit looks like from person to person is not specified, for good reason. Paul had the humility to call himself the chief of sinners, present tense. He…
/r/RPChristians27/05/23 07:22 PM
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As I explain more here, there's no comprehensive list of the purpose of each body part given in scripture, so this argument is just hand-waving.
/r/RPChristians27/05/23 07:07 PM
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I've never had anal sex (though I've had the opportunity) and don't know if I ever will, but I have yet to hear a good argument against it in principle. Responding to your principles: We cannot provide any scripture showing the comprehensive intended purpose of the anus, or any other body part, for that matter. The argument here is: "X is the way that body part Y is used most often. Z is not X, therefore X is a perversion of Y." The same reasoning could be used to counter stimulation via the han…
/r/RPChristians27/05/23 06:56 PM
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I'm aware this mindset is prevalent here. I took some of the mods (including Deep Strength) to task on the virginity issue here. Re: the checklist you posted. Virginity is not the gold standard of sexual virtue. That's no different that the Judaizers holding up their circumcision as a badge of honor. This theology is appalling. Christian or not, past behavior and experiences are the best indication we have of future behavior. We're not God; it's hard to tell what's going on inside. No, that's no…
/r/RPChristians31/01/23 07:33 PM
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Proverbs has a few chapters urging young men to steer clear of promiscuous women too. Yes, promiscuous in the present tense. That's not the same as saying "don't marry someone who has ever been promiscuous". Marriage is risky, it's only prudent to try to find the match with the lowest risk and highest chance of success that you can. OK, let's also expand the list to include: Don't marry anyone from a broken family Don't marry anyone who wasn't raised with Christian values Don't marry anyone has …
/r/RPChristians31/01/23 08:29 AM
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Agreed.
/r/RPChristians31/01/23 08:10 AM
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Since I've separated from my narcissistic ex-wife, my desire to look at porn has MASSIVELY decreased. I am tempted perhaps once a month, and saying 'no' has become quite easy. That does not mean there aren't strong bastions of sexual sin I'm still wrestling against, but I am immensely thankful to not be plagued by the immense desire to look at porn, as I was for decades. I no longer even need to use a filter on my devices. #SelfControl Satan, the accuser, wants us to view ourselves as losers, ad…
/r/RPChristians22/01/23 07:24 AM
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Christian wives should be: A helpmate and lover to her husband (Gen 1-2) A mother to her children (Titus 2) A manager of the home (Titus 2) Shrewd, virtuous, honorable (Prov 31) Submissive to her husband (various)
/r/RPChristians22/01/23 07:09 AM
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If she has given herself to other men then a man should not marry her. Fascinating to me that your (female) virginity fixation is so strong that you're even willing to go beyond what the Mosaic Law, which has incredibly strict purity laws, required. Personally, I think this requirement is revoltingly graceless and utterly non-Christian, but if you're going to include it in your list, at least be willing to note that it is just opinion.
/r/RPChristians22/01/23 07:00 AM
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Good thing I refuted both of those claims in my post, huh.
/r/RPChristians05/01/23 08:13 AM
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Seems pretty gray. I'm skeptical of the claim that most people wouldn't normally do this. I guess its just perceived as bad if its done for financial or aesthetic reasons only.
/r/RPChristians05/01/23 04:28 AM
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This is a great addendum to my post. I totally agree with you. Monkey-branching... I looked it up. Seems like a synonym for having serial emotional affairs?
/r/RPChristians05/01/23 01:18 AM
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This clarifies your position better, and I agree if someone were going to do this then it would be best to do it in this manner. Fair enough. I definitely did not have some kind of "Christian player" in mind who serial-pursues women already in relationships. That seems like a contrived counterpoint, if I'm being blunt. My point is very simply that a girl in a dating relationship is not off-limits to pursue, but how that pursuit occurs requires a lot of wisdom. Nevertheless, if and when I rewrite…
/r/RPChristians04/01/23 08:26 PM
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I agree. What tact looks like definitely depends on the culture.
/r/RPChristians04/01/23 08:10 PM
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Who's heart is broken? The girl being pursued? Why would her heart be broken? Honestly no clue what you're trying to communicate with such a low effort comment.
/r/RPChristians04/01/23 08:09 PM
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Just reading a little bit of Scripture every now and then is not going to result in any spiritual growth. Sanctification isn't an RPG... You don't get XP for reading X verses in a day, serving Y hours, praying Z minutes, or whatever, and then 'level up' in your sanctification. I had to read Whitney in Bible class in college. 'Spiritual disciplines' are just nnother reason to either feel 1) depressed, if you're not "good enough", 2) self-righteous, if you think you are "good enough". Theocast did…
/r/RPChristians03/01/23 08:11 AM
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There's nothing typical about making 115k in tech at age 23, lol. At least not in Ohio. Her salary is insane too. Anyway, I would write to her rather than speaking to her. Keep it SHORT and SWEET. Include the following points: I know this is sensitive, and I mean it in love. This is a major health concern, as you know. This is going to massively reduce the amount of men interested in dating you, as you know. I'm here to help you however I can. If you think I have any areas of improvement, I welc…
/r/RPChristians27/12/22 03:51 PM
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​ Spiritually, you both must be immature and without guidance or accountability because, as others have noted, you would have been called out by now, and a godly church would have disciplined you at least by removing you from the membership. This has probably damaged your witness for Christ, if you are even publicly open about being a Christian (and you probably shouldn't be right now.) This needs to change ASAP --- either move into separate dwellings or get married. And, thank God, "If we confe…
/r/RPChristians01/12/22 03:38 PM
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I think I've yet to see that praxeology guy give a response to anything that isn't either comically judgmental, bizarre, or stupid. That's he's "endorsed" is an interesting commentary on this sub.
/r/RPChristians01/12/22 03:24 PM
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The above answer is good but I wouldn't go in expecting her to become a 10/10. The exact opposite could happen. She could become even more bored (or whatever word you would use to describe her). I am divorced. I went into marriage thinking I was marrying a 9/10. When we hit a rough patch, it became apparent that she wasn't a 9/10 after all. For a lot of people, their true character doesn't come through when all is peachy.
/r/RPChristians01/12/22 03:21 PM
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Repentance is not a work but a direction And what is a change of direction? If its a change of mind, then you agree with me. If its a change of intention, then you contradicted yourself, because you admitted earlier that repentance is not a pronouncement of good intentions. If its a change of behavior, then it is works. And that appears to be what you think. Recall what you said earlier regarding Matt. 21: He repented. AND went. That's true repentance according to Jesus. Please see the danger th…
/r/RPChristians27/11/22 09:47 PM
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In the analogy you gave, change out the wife for God and the husband for you, and then pick any sin you've committed as a Christian. Now, are you willing to admit you have not truly repented? God's law demands perfection. You quoted James 2:18, but did you read earlier in the chapter? 8 If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself," you do well; 9 but if you show partiality, you commit sin, and are convicted by the law as transgressors…
/r/RPChristians27/11/22 09:57 AM
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Bro, you're not Christian, she's not Christian You don't know that about her. I would be inclined to think he's not a Christian not because he's fornicating but because he so casually asks, "Did I do anything wrong?", which displays a stunning ignorance of scripture and therefore probably the gospel as well. Though I am not convinced that this guy isn't trolling. Why isn't ... being sorry for your sins and asking forgiveness enough? That is enough to be saved. Praise God! [Repentance] means you …
/r/RPChristians27/11/22 04:06 AM
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Leviticus 19:28 OP is living in Babylon and this guy is living in the Old Covenant.
/r/RPChristians26/11/22 03:55 AM
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Keep going a few verses later: Does not even nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a dishonor to him? But if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her; for her hair is given to her for a covering. Long hair is one way a woman can cover her head. I don't find the argument that this passage is just cultural to be compelling in the least. Paul references nature directly, which is trans-cultural. Still, I'm not a stickler about hair length. I think there are shorter yet femini…
/r/RPChristians05/11/22 02:50 AM
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Any pastor who condemns repentant sin should be called out and should step down from ministry. He is a pharisee who has no business leading a flock. He is ignorant of the gospel of God and oblivious to his own hypocrisy. I agree with a lot of what /u/rocknrollchuck wrote. There's nothing to gain from going into nitty gritty details. A woman who demands details doesn't understand grace or repentance and will likely carry that attitude into marriage. And from my own failed marriage I can tell you …
/r/askRPC02/11/22 12:44 AM
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I don't find it extreme because: I am by no means poor and can work from anywhere, so the associated time and financial costs are less relevant to me. I am highly attracted to East Asian, Slavic, and certain South American women. I believe I am good at vetting. Perhaps a case could be made that women from the aforementioned ethnicity would also demonstrate more submissiveness than the typical US female Christian, but its not a major factor at this point. Regardless of the ethnicity, submission i…
/r/RPChristians31/10/22 02:25 AM
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All marriages to former sinners has inherent risks. All of the packages in the store are broken and damaged. Your preoccupation with fornication doesn't impress God. If his word won't persuade you, then nothing I say will. And so I'll end with that. 8 If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you do well; 9 but if you show partiality, you commit sin, and are convicted by the law as transgressors. 10 For whoever shall keep the whol…
/r/RPChristians31/10/22 01:51 AM
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treating women with little regard; just plates to be spun and nothing more To me this goes into the realm of misogyny. How many times have I see RP ask, "What do women actually bring to a relationship beyond sex?" That's the vibe I get even listening to Rollo and the alleged RP luminaries.
/r/RPChristians31/10/22 12:47 AM
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I don't think its possible to be grounded in both. While it has a few good points, red pill theory, at its core, is rooted in misogyny and evolutionary psychology, not Christianity. This sub's name, I assume, is for marketing purposes; it would more accurately be called /r/biblicalmasculinity.
/r/RPChristians27/10/22 05:28 AM
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Let me know when you have an actual argument to present, instead of prooftexting in defiance against the whole counsel of God. Cheers.
/r/RPChristians27/10/22 05:03 AM
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We agree that fornication is sinful. But the opposite of fornication is not virginity, it is holiness, and both a virgin and non-virgin can be holy or unholy. This discussion is eerily similar to the Judaizers placing a special value on circumcision. Yes, obedience brings blessing, but in Christianity, grace, not law, gets the last word. PRAISE GOD. We're all sinners. We all have baggage. I know you agree, but now consider this: Is it Christian to look through someone's list of sins and tally up…
/r/RPChristians25/10/22 06:59 PM
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Seems like this is largely an anecdotal debate. I guess I'd have to ask what your motive is in asking this question. Are you frustrated that you that you don't have a lot of good-looking Christian women in your circles?
/r/RPChristians25/10/22 06:36 PM
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sometimes beating ADHD via medication can, straight up, lead to more income So you're going to take an addictive drug that alters your personality so you can earn more money (as though 325k USD / year isn't enough), yet a couple of paragraphs you pontificate about idolizing false missions... Wouldn't going to another whole country just to seek out more women who are a certain height be making a mission out of dating Why would it be more of a mission than any other pursuit of marriage? You act li…
/r/RPChristians25/10/22 06:33 PM
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No one would ever accuse me of peacocking so I guess I'm safe. :P
/r/RPChristians25/10/22 05:17 PM
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Seems like once a month I experience major temptations to pursue a prodigal lifestyle, namely involving fornication. I have to remember that God knows better, and you just have to trust that he knows better, even if your feelings hate that fact. I am in a war with the old man. He tells me that sin is where true joy lies. But I know what scripture says: ​ The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abund…
/r/RPChristians25/10/22 04:26 AM
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Virginity is valued greatly by God for both men and women. Show me without appealing to the Old Covenant. Nothing in the New Covenant supports this kind of thinking. Indeed, the spirit behind it is completely antithetical to the New Covenant, where we see most clearly that true cleanliness and purity comes through faith in Christ, NOT in external behavior. It's not a "fetish" (that's ridiculous in light of the Bible's clear commands) Clear command to marry a virgin? There is no such command. Tho…
/r/RPChristians25/10/22 04:08 AM
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Great writeup, my brother. Hope you don't mind me commenting. I am not exactly clear on how to deal with these. I intentionally didn't seek an ADHD diagnosis (or medication) in college because I knew I would just use it as a crutch. My advice is just to forget you have it. Just know that you're different, but that at the end of the day, you still are expected to get @#$% done like everyone else. I didn't want to be that guy that brought up his "conditions" every time he hit a hurdle. I don't hav…
/r/RPChristians25/10/22 03:32 AM
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Why are so many Christian guys physically unattractive? Because most people aren't physically attractive, period. The matter isn't deeper than that. I went to a prominent Christian college. That place was TEEMING with hot girls, but I don't have any evidence that the proportion was different from any other population of college-seeking women. When you say that the church has a higher percentage of unattractive women, what are you comparing it? The beach? The mall? The rec volleyball club you're …
/r/RPChristians25/10/22 03:07 AM
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Ah, yes, let's fetishize virginity like we're still living in the Old Testament. Meanwhile most Christian guys have a pornified mind long before they get married, yet think they still qualify as virgins. I will never forget my wedding night (when I lost my virginity) thinking how smoking hot she was, and how I felt like I had seen this sight before. Because I had.
/r/RPChristians25/10/22 02:51 AM
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A few differences are that in the "I'll pay off your student loans" scenario, you're offering cash for sex, but dressing it up just enough to not call it what it is. ... He made Ruth prove she was worth the risk before he dived in, and she was up to that challenge. Which is straight up different than just sidling up to the table with a cash offer. lol... my friend, I never presented a scenario where you tell a girl, "Hey, if you marry me, I'll pay off your student loans." I used the word "hint" …
/r/RPChristians25/10/22 02:45 AM
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I thought peacocking was more about standing out than specifically trying to make yourself look like something you aren't.
/r/RPChristians25/10/22 02:38 AM
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You demonstrate your "game" wearing a certain clothes and at a certain venue, though. You talk about your trips, your job, you drive a woman on your first date in a certain car, you eventually bring to a certain apartment. Money is always in the equation, even if its just assumed. Homeless men can have game. Doesn't mean they're getting anyone other than homeless women.
/r/RPChristians23/10/22 01:21 AM
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That's my point. With Mark, you're OK going "beyond the text" based on other scriptural information. I would do the same thing with Matthew 19. Have the last word, if you wish.
/r/RPChristians23/10/22 01:17 AM
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Mind throwing some line paragraph breaks in there? :P I will read it, I promise.
/r/RPChristians23/10/22 01:14 AM
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That's hilarious. Well, time to pull the trigger on getting that Corvette, I guess. ;)
/r/RPChristians23/10/22 01:13 AM
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So if a wealthy man hints that he'll pay off student loans, he ends up with a "hooker" (not even a gold-digger, a HOOKER), but if Boaz makes it abundantly clear that he can act as a kinsman-redeemer, he ends up with a godly woman like Ruth? Those two concepts can't live in harmony. Ruth literally asked Boaz if he would marry her. She admired his character, but his wealth still had everything to do with it.
/r/RPChristians22/10/22 01:10 AM
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What is "game" if not the package deal for attracting women? What's a "gold digger"? Everyone's a gold digger by some standards. As Kanye raps, "I ain't saying she a gold digger, but she ain't messing with no broke n-----." How do you think you'd do on the dating scene if you drove a jalopy and lived in a mobile home, even if you worked hard for an honest living?
/r/RPChristians22/10/22 12:18 AM
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Jesus doesn't even give an exception for divorce in Mark. Isn't he plain and clear in Mark? So, clearly all divorce is adultery, right?
/r/RPChristians22/10/22 12:15 AM
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6-pack, 6 figs, 6 ft Funny. Never heard that one before.
/r/RPChristians22/10/22 12:07 AM
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It all comes down to the words of Jesus and the interpretation of the word "apoluō auto" Well, no, I don't think it has much to do at all with the translation of particular words. It has to do with context, understanding the whole counsel of God, and interpreting scripture in the spirit and not the letter. Combining those three, the "strict" positions on divorce fall apart quickly regardless of what linguistic quibbles we might have. but sexual infidelity is different than any other sin In that…
/r/RPChristians21/10/22 06:12 AM
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There is only one circumstance in which God (may) allow divorce, and that's infidelity. That's it. No
/r/RPChristians21/10/22 04:54 AM
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As far as I've understood infidelity is the only divorce clause that Jesus gives as an option. This is based on bad hermeneutics.
/r/RPChristians21/10/22 04:53 AM
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Its not the sole allowance for divorce. Paul gives another exception in 1 Cor. 7:15 ("not bound" refers to divorce --- the alternate interpretations are miserably contrived), so obviously Paul didn't think Jesus had given a comprehensive list of exceptions. Even in Matt. 19, its not hard to demonstrate that Jesus was only discussing the exception relevant to listeners at that moment, given that 1) sexual infidelity is not the only way to severely damage trust in a relationship, 2) many principle…
/r/RPChristians21/10/22 04:50 AM
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First sentence says about all I need to gauge your intelligence and maturity. Peace, "brother".
/r/askRPC14/09/22 06:42 PM
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Let's cover what I did: Encouraged her for her honesty and wanting to change. Offered practical steps on how she can better herself. Reminded her that her identity is ultimately in Christ. So if that's vomit-worthy to you then I can safely say that your conception of how people change is nowhere near what is taught in scripture. :thumbsup:
/r/askRPC14/09/22 05:31 PM
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God bless you for being so open and honest! That is hard to do for so many people, but it is the most important step. You see where you're come short and you want to change. Your husband is blessed to have a wife with the quality, even if he doesn't recognize it. I would start by reassuring your husband that you understand his frustrations and that you are frustrated as well. Write it to him if talking in person is too difficult. Create a plan. Start really simple. Really small. You remember the…
/r/askRPC11/09/22 03:06 AM
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Appreciate it. I'm still open to reconciliation and she is aware. I am working on myself. Going to keep my head down for a while.
/r/RPChristians11/09/22 01:22 AM
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I'll check out your testimony. So you're still with your wife? Mine is heavily influenced by feminism so she effectively views it as abuse unless the husband is more or less perfect. Kind of like, "If you never fail me, then you have the right to lead me." Right now I'm focusing on healing, still talking with pastors regularly for insight, trying to be a good dad, developing myself personally, professionally, spiritually. I posted more about how I'm doing in the last OYS thread.
/r/RPChristians10/09/22 11:25 PM
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divorce attorney focusing on cases involving psychological issues That sounds highly relevant. You aren't in WA or OR are you, by chance? I read your article on porn. You made a lot of stellar observations. Expanding the discussion to sexual sin in general, including adultery, I must say that I despise the reductionistic attitude the church takes toward sexual sin. I have met so many women, probably women betrayed by their significant others, who treat sexual sin as a super-sin that renders ever…
/r/RPChristians10/09/22 09:02 AM
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Thanks for your response. I appreciate your empathy, though I can truly hope you haven't experienced much of what happened in my marriage. It was pretty bad. Unfortunately, I can't do it justice with a brief summary, so here's a wall of text, if you care to read it: She was a beautiful, intelligent, talented girl that I met on a Christian dating site. I saw red flags in our dating and engagement but wanted to be optimistic. I had my own issues, after all. I was open with her that I struggled wit…
/r/RPChristians10/09/22 08:36 AM
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Some fair points. I appreciate the interaction. I have read your article that Red-Curious linked to and will do so again soon.
/r/RPChristians10/09/22 08:10 AM
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Biblical sex is the pinnacle --- the consummation --- of affection and romance, so if we're commanded to give the greater then we're commanded to give the lesser. Sex can be just the interacting of body parts to create a physical sensation, but I don't think that's what Paul meant by sex in 1 Cor. 7.
/r/RPChristians10/09/22 07:19 AM
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I have been through a rollercoaster of depression and frustration and doubt over the past few years. Fortunately, Christ is my rock in the storm. Even in the midst of pain and failure, he blesses me. I am still thriving in my work (my business is growing), my health (I am enjoying the gym and making progress), and the lives of my children, who love me dearly and love to spend time at my new place. I am simultaneously saddened by and thankful for my divorce. Saddened because it is a loss of what …
/r/RPChristians10/09/22 06:31 AM
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Thanks for the response. I agree with the spirit of what you wrote. I gather that you're reformed, which I'm not, but nevertheless I appreciate the sanity check. I see my own situation in a lot of what you presented. My ex-wife's conditional love and affection was very damaging to our marriage and nearly all of the counselors I sought out either 1) acknowledged the problem but wouldn't rebuke her, 2) blamed me or told me to lower my expectations. Of course, when I went to them on my own and conf…
/r/RPChristians10/09/22 06:07 AM
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Yes, I quoted 1 Cor. 7 at one point. Didn't go over well. Hilariously / sadly, these subs are moderated by so-called "conservative reformed" men. Have you ever had your wife be emotionally hurt and want to withhold sex? How did you handle that?
/r/RPChristians10/09/22 05:19 AM
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Based quote: "Imagine who you'd be and the kind of life you'd live if the only person you feared was God." - Jackie Hill Perry I've spent far too many hours caring about what whether I had the validation of others in important life decisions. a.k.a.: The fear of man.
/r/RPChristians21/08/22 05:42 AM
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I'll make one more response because I imagine other people are reading this discussion. Jesus' sermon on the Mount was properly interpreting the Old Testament. Your "raising the bar" concept doesn't work in light of Christ's opening statement in his sermon that not one jot or tittle shall pass away until all is fulfilled. Christ was demonstrating what true fulfillment of the law looked like (obeying the law in the spirit and just the letter), not introducing a new law, as your position requires.…
/r/RPChristians17/08/22 06:36 AM
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This is the standard type of response I've come to expect from you. When I point out a contradiction or a problem, you wave your hands, beg the question, perform semantic gymnastics, and/or copy-and-paste another word bomb. Nevertheless, you write with such confidence that I'm sure it impresses the undiscerning mind. Notable examples would include your position on vows, Christ's "ability" to contradict the Mosaic Law, marriage can be "annulled" but this isn't a real divorce. I'll bow out here an…
/r/RPChristians15/08/22 05:24 AM
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Your article only addresses the situation of lying about one's sexual past, not general comments like this: but with the qualification that each spouse knows that Christian marriage is permanent and has agreed to do all of God's roles and responsibilities in marriage not under any duress Perhaps your position never changed, but I find it disingenuous to appear so strict on the topic, when in actuality you hold to what I would consider a sizable umbrella for exceptions. You will disallow for an i…
/r/RPChristians13/08/22 05:55 PM
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Struggling off and on with porno, big surprise I'm sure, but I am relying more and more on the Spirit for strength in overcoming this and making progress. Coming out of a failed marriage, I will just warn you that porn is messing up your mind bad. If you become financially successful, your mind will start moving from, "I don't just have to watch this, I can find girls to do this with." Lust is never satisfied; you have not even begun to see where it will take you. I was at the point where I woul…
/r/RPChristians13/08/22 07:15 AM
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Not to restart a debate, but you seem to have taken a less hardline stance from when we talked a couple of months ago. You seem to be allowing for the possibility that a marriage can be invalid if one of the spouses has false expectations for the marriage or what their spouse is capable of. That drives at the heart of why my marriage failed.
/r/RPChristians13/08/22 06:44 AM
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​ Everyone has their own 1-10 scale, even women, even if they don't admit it. However, physical attractiveness in general may not play a big role in some women's choice to be with you. Most men worry too much about where they are on the scale. The truth is that men can marry up, looks-wise, if they compensate in other areas. Personally I think that most men have the potentially to increase their looks significantly through exercise, grooming, and dress. The simplest way to gauge how physically a…
/r/RPChristians13/08/22 06:29 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/RPChristians29/06/22 12:19 AM
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What I have studied is to sufficient to understand the meat of RP, I believe. I listened to more Rational Male today, as well as some Fresh and Fit. I also have heard a bit of RP ideas through Jordan Peterson. I understand that there is a spectrum, but I still stand by the statement that "RPChristian" is an oxymoron, although I understand the term from a marketing perspective. I think you are correct that they make good points about female manipulation. My ex-wife manipulated me for years in way…
/r/RPChristians29/06/22 12:16 AM
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Most of what I've read on /r/TheRedPill and listened to / read from The Rationale Male sounds lot like, "Women can't make you happy like you were taught to think they could make you happy, but let's figure out how to game them so we can get action with the hottest women anyway." Aside from that, I don't know how you reconcile core elements of RP like Dread Game with Christianity. Feel free to enlighten me. I guess I would summarize my opinion of RP like this: "What's good isn't original, and wha…
/r/RPChristians28/06/22 04:01 AM
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His mission seems as specific as it needs to be to answer the sidebar question. Seems like he's focused on his work to provide for his family and serve his church.
/r/RPChristians28/06/22 03:56 AM
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"How to game women so you can get laid" is the thrust of most RP material I've ever read. Here's the last highly upvoted post from /r/TheRedPill before it got quarantined (or not, I have no idea how quarantine on leddit works). Tactics like "Dread game"... makes me laugh out loud. Like any legit Christian girl wants to feel in a state of dread her entire marriage. They promote flirting with other women, threatening divorce. The leading proponents of Red Pill seem, from what I can tell, to despis…
/r/RPChristians27/06/22 09:14 AM
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Most of RP is manipulation...
/r/RPChristians26/06/22 05:17 AM
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I don't see how that's a farce when some women explicitly state that it turns them on. But I'm not claiming that is the case with your wife. Sounds like you are helpful. Maybe you need to go the communication route I suggested. Maybe you two aren't on the same page.
/r/RPChristians24/06/22 04:17 AM
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I am adamantly against chore-play, as I believe the redpill community is at large. I don't know all of the RP lingo so I don't know how they would define "choreplay" exactly. What I do know is that the most successful marriages (including a good sex life) I know all have a husband who pitches in, and doesn't sit on the sidelines just because he's brought home the bacon. I'm not suggesting doing chores only to initiate a response -- that's just manipulation. But I am suggesting doing chores. "Hon…
/r/RPChristians23/06/22 08:58 PM
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After reading this I honestly don't understand exactly what you want. Do you want extremely hot sex every three days, in which she is burning with desire for you? That is going to be tough to pull off, but it will have do more with how you treat her mind than how you treat your body or your bank account. Seriously, work out and work hard for you --- don't make it about her right now. It's not clear from this post how you're treating her, but you're probably not showing the kind of foreplay you n…
/r/RPChristians23/06/22 08:10 AM
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Had never heard of Upward. Thanks.
/r/RPChristians19/06/22 07:08 AM
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Sure, I'll make this my last response. You can have the last word. Strict betrothal I think is still stronger than the divorce for adultery position, but I think the betrothal variant I talked about referring to Deut 22 (marital fraud) is the strongest. Calling your position a version of the betrothal position seems like a huge misnomer, but I digress. Second, I think you're honing into the Law too much. Christians are not under the Law, and especially Gentile Christians we were never even going…
/r/RPChristians19/06/22 06:06 AM
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Thank you for your comments. Alright, my understanding is that your position is not exactly the same as the betrothal position. The betrothal position I consider weak, and I can see why the position isn't widely held. Your position is certainly a different take. I am curious if any reputable theologians have held to it throughout history? Not that this automatically validates or invalidates a position, I'm just curious because I may like to research it more. At the bottom line, it seems like you…
/r/RPChristians18/06/22 06:44 PM
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I don't have time to read all of that, but I'll try to understand your position: Matthew 19 is not talking about divorce, it is talking about putting away a spouse after an invalid marriage has been recognized. Is that correct? Is this considered the same as the "betrothal" position (namely that porneia only refers to sexual sin during the betrothal period), or it is considered a separate view? Another question: are you saying that the Mosaic Law does not recognize divorce?
/r/RPChristians18/06/22 05:23 AM
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Would like to know what apps you recommend or don't recommend. I'm looking for a young-ish Christian woman. Preferably not older than early thirties.
/r/RPChristians18/06/22 04:26 AM
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If you grasp empathy then you are moving in a positive direction. That is good advice and I appreciate it.
/r/RPChristians17/06/22 07:10 AM
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I understand that you want to discuss this in more depth. I don't mind doing so. This is an interesting discussion and it is encouraging me to more study on the background of passages like Mark 2-3. I don't think its accurate to say that the pharisees were upholding their man-made traditions in these passages. The law does say not to work on the Sabbath and it does say not to eat the showbread unless one is a priest. We already know how Jesus responds to the pharisees when they accuse him of not…
/r/RPChristians17/06/22 03:39 AM
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Yeah, because my reaction to you requesting information you have no business knowing is a basis for you evaluating the legitimacy of my divorce. /s I never said my wife was "shitty". Stop putting words in my wife, thanks. Moreover, its completely normal for the woman who was the primary caregiver before the divorce to remain so afterward. Your maturity level is clearly such that you should be doing more listening and speaking. I came here to interact with Christian men, not petulant busybodies, …
/r/RPChristians17/06/22 01:18 AM
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Quite the writeup, friend. You are both insightful and pessimistic about Christian women, haha. This gives me a lot of food for thought. I'm curious if you have any advice regarding income. Do I put it in my profile, or is that considered tacky or likely to attract gold diggers (even if they're Christian)? Or do I just say I'm a "successful software development manager" or something like that? Fortunately I have very easy access to my children, I am just not the one taking care of their day to d…
/r/RPChristians16/06/22 06:28 AM
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Yep. I used to envy unbelievers. The way of the world is a dead end, in this life and the next. Already mentioned elsewhere, but it hits home: Do not fret because of evildoers, nor be envious of the workers of iniquity, for they shall soon be cut down like the grass and wither as the green herb. -Ps 37:1 The verse the Edwards "Sinners in the hands of angry God" we're based on: Vengeance is Mine, and recompense; Their foot shall slip in due time; For the day of their calamity is at hand, And the …
/r/RPChristians16/06/22 04:15 AM
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Renpho scales are incredibly accurate in my experience. Like +/- 0.5%. 15% is when I see a reduction in love handles but still not visible abs. That's like 12%, and not worth the effort IMHO. The correct answer to "assurance of salvation" is always YES! for those who have trusted in Christ's life, death, and resurrection alone to save them from their sin. Amen! It's not something that is measured, it's something that is known. (Reading your answer made me happy.) Are you married, if you don't mi…
/r/RPChristians16/06/22 04:06 AM
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I took his comment to mean, "Your position is problematic, so you do have to defend it." But whether it is problematic is precisely the point in question. (I doubt he would expect me to defend a position he already agreed with.) Anyway, I am not trying to hide my position, I was just not under the impression that this is not a forum for theological debate. If anyone wants to know my position they can YouTube Mike Winger's divorce video. Yes, it is extremely long but extremely thorough and, in my…
/r/RPChristians16/06/22 03:39 AM
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You don't "need" to know the circumstances of my divorce. Don't confuse me not giving strangers details about a very personal matter with being "evasive". I did not create this post asking for strangers to evaluate the legitimacy of my divorce. Again, I know exactly why I had grounds for divorce. If you want to think I divorced for trivial or selfish reasons just because I won't air our dirty laundry before you, go right ahead. If the WCF acknowledges abandonment as a legitimate basis for divorc…
/r/RPChristians16/06/22 12:32 AM
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Both. They clearly can't handle the idea of being with someone who has had major moral failings and I can't handle the idea of being with someone who views my past as my identity.
/r/RPChristians15/06/22 11:26 PM
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I thought tinder was for hookups? Heard better about bumble, hinge, eHarmony, Christian mingle. I'm going to mention I have kids but not show them. 200k is what I have after alimony and other projects I'm invested in. Don't want to give out my real income on a profile.
/r/RPChristians15/06/22 09:55 PM
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Depends on whether you judge people by their past or their present. My first wife had an unsavory past. I didn't hold it against her. I definitely don't want to be with someone stuck in the past, however, so I'm going to be open about my past and if it bothers them, good to know. Red flag.
/r/RPChristians15/06/22 09:29 PM
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You're begging the question, my friend.
/r/RPChristians15/06/22 05:13 PM
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That position leads to scripture contradicting itself, aside from having odd implications that contradict other scriptural principles, so that's not a position I can get on board with. Probably not the place for me to debate the theology of marriage and divorce, though.
/r/RPChristians15/06/22 02:03 PM
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Yeah, I had dated very little before meeting my wife so I would say I went into marriage fairly naive when it comes to romantic relationships. The marriage lasted about 8 years. The divorce was almost a year ago. I still have a lot more personal work to do and, if I date again, won't start for many more months, but I wanted to get an idea now in terms of expectations. I am still open to reconciling with my ex wife, by the way. But I don't believe I'm bound to her, per 1 Cor. 7.
/r/RPChristians15/06/22 01:51 PM
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Mind sharing what apps you considered worth trying? Also can you give more details on why you found the experience unsuccessful?
/r/RPChristians15/06/22 01:35 PM
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I don't agree with Piper's position at all. But I don't think this is the place to get into a theology debate on divorce, so I'll just leave it at that.
/r/RPChristians15/06/22 01:32 PM
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Yes. Yes.
/r/RPChristians15/06/22 06:11 AM
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​ No, it's not "all" because I failed, but part of it is because I failed. A failed marriage takes two people. I'm not insufferable to be around, so guess I'm good there. Stating the obvious.
/r/RPChristians15/06/22 05:44 AM
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