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You didn't even look up the study, nor did you care to find where it was from. You dismissed it preemptively on the basis of it not aligning with your world view. This is a debate sub; not a post-hoc rationalization sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 07:51 PM
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Ignoring scientific data and using personal anecdotes to buttress your worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 07:44 PM
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Except there's data that supports that women have a large in-group bias towards women while men have a slight out-group bias towards women. But sure, blame "SoCiEty". What is with this white knighting? When did this sub get so bloop?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 07:37 PM
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Breaking mathematics resulting in the destruction of the universe is a hell of a revenge fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 02:55 PM
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Those guys are the absolute minority. Pareto distribution applied to morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 02:26 PM
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Let's do two things. Shame a position that has robust scientific and historical support showing the benefits of marital happiness, longevity, and faithfulness. Pick and choose the traditional system (marriage) that benefits us, while dismissing the traditional system (virginity) that limits our options. My thoughts are that that is a position espoused by individuals with no motivating moral frame other than "what benefits me the most".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 01:35 PM
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"If you take my (obviously) false premise as gospel, why does it support my beliefs?"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/22 10:19 AM
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Whether my beliefs are true or not is determined by how many fake internet points I can accrue and how many people agree with me!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 11:57 PM
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🤤
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 11:56 PM
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No homo. 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 11:48 PM
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I've heard grown men also try to dictate what other men should do, using shaming tactics and disparaging behavior they personally don't like as immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 11:23 PM
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Not true. As your average, run-of-the-mill 6'3" former model, women tell me they primarily care about personality all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 02:48 PM
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Spending money frivolously is frowned upon. However, whether someone earned that money through creating a business or whether that money was inherited impacts how we view that spending. Promiscuity is no different; you're trying to paint it in such a black and white manner because you would fall into the latter camp. It obviously simplifies the situation so you (and other women) would never receive more rebuke despite deserving such.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 12:42 PM
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Unless one's views on morality uphold hard work and achievement as a moral good. Which is, you know, how much of the human world operates...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 10:21 AM
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Only reasonable if you are someone worth waiting for.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 10:12 AM
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Because it's a made up story about female oppression. Basically the same as real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 09:54 AM
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We often forget that women are also big fat liars.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 09:52 AM
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You're explaining your morality to me. If you don't feel like you're a good person, well, this conversation is rather moot, isn't it? Why are you arguing in favor of the morality of a person that isn't good? Strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 01:11 AM
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Sure, you can say the same thing I did but choose words to invoke the poisoning the well fallacy to make yourself feel like a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 01:05 AM
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You forgot the most important rule: man bad. woman good. I hope that this helps explain the conundrum. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 12:54 AM
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Yes, I'm already aware your morality emphasizes vengeance over righteousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 12:49 AM
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She went to her parents. That didn't work. According to women's complex morality the next step is clearly murder. Because she was so afraid of being arrested for going anywhere else... she committed murder, which clearly wouldn't lead to being arrested... I'm sure you would. And the whole jury would clap as well. You brave soul.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 12:40 AM
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Think before commenting. If she managed to meet up with a lover and get her hands on poison, she obviously had the capacity to physically leave. But sure, paint it like she was at the mercy of the bad bad men. What argument would you women have besides absolving yourselves of any responsibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 12:33 AM
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It's easier when they abuse the word "hypocrite" when they really mean "sexist". It's not hypocritical for me to expect women to be a certain definition of feminine when I, as a man, am masculine and expect men to be as such. But, this isn't the first time that women try to dilute words to give off a certain impression.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 11:16 PM
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Hmm. Women believing some infringement gives them the right to murder. Wonder where we've heard that argument before.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 11:01 PM
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Based. And cringe. Possibly even litty.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 10:00 PM
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Don't worry. Only good looking people find real love.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 09:16 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 09:13 PM
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That's why, as a man who is waiting until marriage, I have the least aggressive and chauvinistic takes here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 08:25 PM
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Fine
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 08:19 PM
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As in all available and relevant IQ studies that test actual fully developed adult humans. https://www.nature.com/articles/nature04966 But, yeah, parry my assertion supported by a couple hundred thousand data points with your "competitively intelligent" and clearly non-emotionally reactive brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 06:18 PM
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And yet, all available data seems to suggest so.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 06:06 PM
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Not from ppd that's for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 06:04 PM
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are*
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 11:30 AM
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Your presence here does lend some credibility to that argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 11:22 AM
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PPDers spend hours a day arguing about relationship dynamics. So why must they still rely on sweeping generalizations and strawmen?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 11:18 AM
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Haha. Nested dramatic irony is even funnier.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 08:47 PM
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And what of the hot, nerdy guys? Paging Dr. u/E-2-butene
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 08:45 PM
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Or. Just wait until marriage. Because if your value is as high as it should be, you don't need sexual validation to know you're her number one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 08:28 PM
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Women have sex before marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 07:55 PM
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Buy cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 07:38 PM
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Let's just leave this here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 07:37 PM
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Millions of things wrong with this analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/22 03:02 PM
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Yeah, I'd try and uglify myself in order to empathize with the women of ppd.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/22 02:21 AM
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Again, I never said that was the only issue. I'm also not reading 90% of your comment because you seem to have ignored the fact that you're not even arguing against my point, but, rather, a crafted position. The context, which you seem to be ignoring, was a number of women saying that people are taking their rights or that other people control their decisions. Obviously, I'm pointing out the irony in that the way they vote makes them appropriately responsible for this apparent problem. It's the …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 07:23 AM
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"Skimmed it". Meaning you took two glances at the abstract and made a conclusion? And, no. That's the strawman you created. Where did I attribute government spending solely to female suffrage? I pointed out an issue, and because it hurt your feelings, you jumped all the way to "he must be mysogynist and saying it's all women's fault". Your over-reactivity is exactly why women's suffrage was a mistake. The evidence is there that demonstrates women's voting patterns heavily expanded the scope of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/22 12:37 AM
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And when he finds out that more attractive people are smarter, on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 11:40 PM
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You didn't read the article, and you waste my time again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 10:31 PM
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no. read the study I posted. I tire of ppd again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 08:17 PM
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And yet per capita spending doubled in the 10 years following the 19th amendment. Blowing past previous trends... hmmm. Really makes you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:49 PM
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Interesting how you managed to reach for that one. Let's rephrase. Do you think that if we had left it up to the states' discretion, would any still maintain slavery despite the fact that no culturally similar country has slavery today?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:46 PM
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Re-read my first comment. I said "vastly expanded". Not created. It's not my fault people such as yourself are so apt to argue against your own mental and straw fabrications.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:42 PM
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I'm debating the point by the poster. It's called nuance, lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:35 PM
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Now who's going off topic. You're bouncing all over the place. Was 1787 the invention of the federal government? Or was it the civil war? Make up your mind. Out of all the modern countries, you're suggesting that slavery would exist solely in America if not for the ham-fisted overreach of our federal government? That's laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:33 PM
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Not off topic in the slightest. Maybe if you put your thinking cap on, you'd maybe learn a bit. It's funny how this (fake) problem you've engendered could be easily solvable by letting states dictate their own laws, but that would require 2 brain cells to discover.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:24 PM
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Not our fault that your gender vastly expanded the power of the federal government when we were originally supposed to be a state based union.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 05:12 PM
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That seems like an oddly ironic way of protesting the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:49 PM
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If only we'd address the true elephant in the room.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 02:45 PM
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Yes, and you're a masculine man with lots of "visible testosterone" and clear confidence who insults strangers who disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:11 PM
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Cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 11:03 PM
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I knew you were cat of banals.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 07:01 PM
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As a prior fetus, I'm happy with these moral progressions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/22 06:48 PM
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Depends on what they open their stupid fucking mouths for, AYO (high five)!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 01:38 AM
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...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:04 PM
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No mention of "smarter". Surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:57 PM
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Insert sweeping generalization here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 06:47 PM
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And they never mention the significant IQ disadvantage. People forget that most intelligence based studies were done in children when the mean difference isn't present due to faster female maturity, where only the variability is captured. https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S019188690400385X-gr1.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 12:59 PM
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Accurate, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/22 04:33 PM
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I think not being a whore does it for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 03:12 PM
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Never thought you of all people would be into getting pegged.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/22 12:37 AM
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Gulpin DEEZ NUTS. ​ GOTTEM.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 11:30 PM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 11:14 PM
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Test.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 10:17 PM
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I just eat wood chips for the face gains.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 09:35 PM
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Agreed. They're clearly about our lord and savior, Jesus Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 04:39 PM
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I love lamp.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 04:12 PM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 12:00 AM
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You.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/22 11:27 PM
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It depends, with which one did I establish a marital bond?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 11:59 PM
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It's from getting bent over by chad when you aren't watching.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/22 11:44 PM
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Bahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/22 04:41 PM
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We can't all be 6' handsome, muscle-bound, THICC phd's like you. Regardless, we all know you're just upset I can't flirt with you anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/22 11:26 PM
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Degeneracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 09:14 PM
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: oceaN
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 03:50 PM
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Based on her background, the ideology, her refusal to talk about russian politics in particular, and the very 'evidenced' and detailed, though extremely specious and fallacious gynocentric arguments she crafted, I was convinced she was an astroturf plant.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/22 02:07 PM
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I hope you don't; I only intend on marrying once.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 03:57 PM
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Oh great. Maybe it's a half kidney. Your argument certainly is now rock-solid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 03:24 PM
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A chance of disease is equivalent to the certainty of losing a full kidney. And penetration is as invasive (I'm using medical terminology) as surgery. Give it a rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 03:21 PM
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You're not arguing the point. You stated that johns are not "relationship material" by their propensity to cheat, their decreased value of monogamy, etc. By the same logic, all people who have higher sexual partners are not "relationship material". You're merely using ad-hoc rationalizations to delineate between a john and a high-n man, both of whom are likely to run-off and cheat; the only difference being the how. Even in this argument you're tacitly admitting that the "relationship material" …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 03:16 PM
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That's not a consistent logical thread, and merely ad-hoc to defend prior behavior and decisions. If the issue is with monogamy, cheating, etc. , then just as with "johns", irrespective of his or her own body count, everyone should desire to settle down with a lower-body count partner. But that's clearly not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 03:00 PM
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But will the same logic be applied to women with more sex partners? Or is the past the past? Place your bets. Number of Pre-Marital Partners Percent Who Cheated Once Married (%) 2 10.4 3 14.9 4 17.7 5 21.6 6-10 26.0 11-20 36.7 21+ 46.8 https://archive.md/SDVEU https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17605537/ Edit: Downvoting me won't make men consider you relationship material.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 02:43 PM
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The comment was so utterly unintelligent that elaboration didn't seem necessary. But, since that quality seems owed to the source, sure, I'll explain. You started by comparing the act of prostitution, a repeatable non-invasive activity, to selling one's organs, a surgically invasive, life-time impacting, one-time decision. One is significantly more life-threatening and difficult to achieve than the other. That not being enough to paint prostitution as "massively fucked up", you went on to compar…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 02:25 PM
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What an asinine analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/22 01:58 PM
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The next closest being the female denizens of ppd. Maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:59 AM
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The closest living relatives of hippos are whales.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 01:49 AM
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Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 11:56 PM
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What can I say, I'm a visionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 08:16 PM
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If you do, that would make sense, as I actually source my claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 11:56 AM
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Or you can, get this, not have welfare. False dichotomies are great and all though.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 12:34 AM
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Why not just get rid of the source?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 12:17 AM
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Well your positions are nonsensical.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 11:10 PM
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I would too. Most people would as well. I always knew attractive men were a rarity. Logistically though, if you're a woman and want a looksmatch, you're either supporting polygamy or bringing something extra to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 03:02 AM
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The "look's match" is technically out of the woman's league regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 02:25 AM
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It's not like anyone could have predicted that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 11:10 PM
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No it's not insignificant when you look at distribution curves. Doctors have an average IQ of 130. Because of the mean difference, roughly 4x as men meet this threshold. If the mean difference didn't exist, only 1.5x men would meet this threshold. The mean difference has a massive impact that you are vastly underestimating, population wide.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 02:48 AM
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If war is inevitable, it makes sense geographically. The eastern european plains are the only point of strategic land vulnerability for Russia. If they secure Ukraine, invasion becomes much more difficult and fortification becomes much easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 02:25 AM
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The IQ test is much more standardized than almost all tests; we use it in the army to determine jobs. Your argument allows you to handwave virtually any difference due to possible "social influence"; it's not a strong one. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3175680 People and researchers tend to reject data that doesn't support supposedly disenfranchised groups (like women). And, thus, I can reject your rejection. Regardless, whether there is "social influence", the gap still ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 02:06 AM
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IQ heritability is .45 for 12 year olds, increasing to .8 in adulthood; this means that IQ becomes substantially less determined by environmental factors as we mature, almost becoming entirely based on genetics. If your argument were true, you'd see a greater mean difference between the sexes in children than in adults, which is the opposite of what occurs, as IQ is normalized within age groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 01:29 AM
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I pulled it from this website. I didn't read the page, just for visualization. Et si vous parlez français.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 01:17 AM
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That's because I calculated that with my superior male /s brain from data on st.dev (average population is 15, white men 16.5, white women 14.5) and the means I previously listed. Here's a picture to illustrate the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 01:09 AM
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It's less savory than saying men are both dumber and smarter. It's easier to lube up a dildo of apparent sexism. Also, most IQ studies are with kids, so the difference hasn't manifested.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 12:46 AM
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The standard deviation difference between men and women is roughly 2, with an difference in means of 4-6. Sure, men are more highly represented at the lower end, below the 2nd or 3rd standard deviation accordingly. Mathematically, this is 1.5-.1% of the population; an equivalent adult man has an intelligence advantage at anywhere from 99.9% to 98.5% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 12:44 AM
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No, on average, men are smarter than women, by a roughly 5 IQ pt margin in adulthood, this is confirmed by sample sizes of 190,000, on top of the greater variance. There is parity in IQ distributions at around age 13, which disappears to a male adv maximum at early/mid 20s. Men are also more cooperative than women, are more consistent hormonally, and don't suffer from pregnancy and childbirth. There is no reason to justify women in the workplace at equivalent levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 12:17 AM
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I'm saying single women would suffer if not for the favoritism they experience throughout all walks of life. There's a reason why provisioning by men was positively selected for, and it is eschewed largely due to government intervention.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 12:10 AM
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I mean at the end of the day, if you're single forever because of your own limiting standard, that's nobody's business but your own, right? It does when being single requires a wealth distribution system to subsidize your lifestyle and receiving a leg-up in virtually everything from education to employment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 11:55 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg6JzoCEWx8
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 11:16 PM
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Bring back slut shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 11:14 PM
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CMV: Sky is blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 11:07 PM
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Don't take it personally. I would want a woman like you. Besides, I already work in engineering, if anything that would make you similar to my level.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 04:24 AM
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it’s really just annoyance at repetitive parroting of obvious truths. Then you must be really annoyed by my words.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 12:13 AM
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Yes, it bothers me when someone so craven could have anything resembling arrogance.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 12:07 AM
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Nobody: Absolutely nobody: Insert superiority complex
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 11:54 PM
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Even despite the obvious, mile-high difference in barriers to entry between male and female sexual access, women will still try to equate male promiscuity to female promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 02:07 AM
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I rather liked your freudian slip geyges. I would volunteer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 12:59 AM
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Quit being sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 11:35 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 11:23 PM
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And I appreciate your mom for showing me the tricks of the trade.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 07:53 PM
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That's why I practice tax evasion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 07:45 PM
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I flex on reddit by pointing out how sore I am from working out so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 07:22 PM
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Acknowledging, however, creates no change. Sure, there's an argument for building rapport before chastising, offering value to show that the critique comes from a position of pragmatism, but in the end, you can't make an omelette without cracking a few eggs. There's a reason for the shift of the overton window, and it's largely an oversympathetic desire for tolerance and free-choice. I have several promiscuous friends who I'm able to discuss these issues, and, as a whole, I'm the only person the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 04:50 PM
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with the important distinction being that he doesn’t trash talk higher n women If someone has ruminated on the benefits of temperance, eliciting deeper moral and rational motivations than those solely of religious expectations and personal proclivity, why would they not hold others to the same standard, beyond relationships? Promiscuity is detrimental societally and individualistically on very evident levels, by decreasing marriage and relationships, increasing divorce rates and harming child ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 02:55 PM
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And you'd be wrong. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022103117304195?via%3Dihub Women strategically transmit information regarding potential romantic rivals' sexual histories as a form of intergender competitive mating strategy, which is widely evidenced. This "slut-shaming" reduces the desired man's willingness to commit to the rival woman, suggesting a selfish reproductive benefit. Women, however, are unaware of their own aggression, and purport behaving as such, though …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 01:34 AM
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Lower prenatal testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 12:24 AM
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Or ask them if they take the same line on other relationships with greater likelihood of abuse, like those related to rule #6. I always get a chuckle out of that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 11:57 PM
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I guess we're pulling numbers out of our asses now, too?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:39 PM
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I guess I'll try spouting some drivel that broadly appeals to women and you'll shower me in praises too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:30 PM
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You're the one complaining, like an energy vampire.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/22 08:24 PM
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And your mom loves my "social construct".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 05:06 PM
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Language is a social construct. Thus, what you're saying has no value, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 04:41 PM
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https://archive.ph/o/78xa7/https://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-looks-and-online-dating/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 04:45 PM
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To be honest, the proliferation of magnet and charter schools takes away a lot of the arguments against gifted schools just because people are already sorting and filtering their kids into artificial environments. Not really an apt comparison. My issue with gifted programs is the distinction of certain individuals within the same social hierarchy due to a factor that is not accurately reflective of potential. Kids in magnet/charter school aren't continuously reminded of their "supposed" intellec…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 08:34 PM
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The point I was trying to make was that any standardized test will still assess the same factor, the g-factor; IQ vs. SAT scores, for instance. I'm just fundamentally opposed to an overarching "gifted" course at that age. Because of the differential maturity rates of children, many of the kids that test in will not truly be gifted and many of the kids that don't make the cut will be worse than they should, hampering their success due to the self-fulfilling prophecy. When I was in first grade, fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 06:58 PM
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What would another test give you? Is there some other, more age-stable intelligence factor that can be assessed relative to peers that I'm unaware of?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 06:33 PM
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Why is a school using IQ as a measure for giftedness in children? IQ is terribly unpredictable in kids, as environmental factors, such as parental influence and maturity rates, heavily impact the score. With a heritability of .45, which later stabilizes to around .80 in adults, there's a reason why many child prodigies fade into obscurity. A fifth of 12 year olds experience a 20 point change, positive or negative, by the time they turn 16, the difference between average and borderline mentally d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 06:19 PM
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extraordinary people such as yourself. Is this how they interviewed for P.T. Barnum's?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 05:50 PM
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I was bluepill until I met your fiance
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 05:46 PM
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And yet, the one doing it right here is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 05:20 PM
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This statistical evidence and more logical understanding?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 05:12 PM
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Her thumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/22 04:10 PM
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Y'all women sure do spend an awful lot of time caring about what the average man thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 02:09 PM
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I saw this very attractive middle-aged black lady at the gym today. I was gonna hit on her, but then I had flashbacks to arguing with the ppd women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 12:50 AM
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11 days. Backpacking on the AT.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 06:16 PM
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Writing paragraphs would indicate the capacity to entertain another's perspective. If such a thing were possible, we wouldn't have PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 05:59 PM
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ah i forgot.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 05:50 PM
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but how will we ever consummate our love?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 05:47 PM
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Don't make me hop on gear. You already know how these comments make me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 05:45 PM
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Yep. But I'm 3 inches taller than you. We all know who is the AMOG.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 05:40 PM
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How much more do you need to lose to hit your goal weight, if you don’t mind me asking? Negative 25 lbs. Thanks for asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 05:38 PM
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okay iris floyd.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:39 PM
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Obviously the bmi does not look unhealthy or the study wouldn't have reached the conclusion it did. I go to the gym 5 days a week, am 6'3" and sit at 188 lbs with visible abs and 11% bf. I'm not at the "ideal" for men either. It's an ideal for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:30 PM
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And? Why are you saying this as if it refutes the findings of the study?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:28 PM
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That such an unrealistic expectation for most women Yes, as that would require self control and exercise.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:22 PM
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Which equates to a BMI of 29.5 vs. 29.8 for the man and woman respectively. Factoring in the additional musculature, bone density, etc. of men and comparing bmis to the "ideal" for men vs. women on top of the aforementioned difference, it's clear which side is more problematic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:20 PM
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Ideal male bmi: 25.9/24.5 (by men/by women) Ideal female bmi: 18.8/18.9 (by men/by women) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23209791/ "Average american man fat too" is little more than a false equivalency.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 04:07 PM
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Don't strawman my argument, as you strawman other arguments. I said "one subset" not an entire side.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 03:22 PM
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And your casual observation would be incorrect due to solely being a result of heuristics combined with your ingrained biases. Further, appearing tolerant by headlining your statement with a populist claim of neutrality, and then attacking one subset of said population comes off as weaselly and manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 03:06 PM
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By dint of suggesting a "fairly even spread", in-group bias differentials supplies ammunition for the opposite of said claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 02:58 PM
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There's no reason to presume this. Males of the human species have always had their reproductive success primarily tied to their utility to women, not their attractiveness. Once the approaching and the commitment side of the equation is removed, which encompasses how men are useful to women, it's highly unlikely that the human race would be able to survive (single mothers and their offspring survive only due to large social safety nets). Inevitably, natural selection would push men to approach a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:03 AM
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I had a similar experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 04:57 PM
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When you go on PPD to tell a little joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 04:49 PM
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I forgot, my bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 03:19 AM
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Unfortunately, you couldn't find a place that could fit all the mobility scooters. I'm guessing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 03:17 AM
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You're missing out. The new one is fantastic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eraBfcM0x9Y is a banger for workouts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 03:07 AM
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It could be the case. I don't see that changing the underlying argument, however. The variation, regardless of point of origination, is unique to the chromosomal distribution of men, and, therefore, will primarily be demonstrated in sons over daughters.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 02:52 AM
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I just have trouble following the logic. Evolution has led to women getting more attractive while men have not. If we were to assume that the genes that make men sexy also make women sexy, we would see both populations of men and women becoming more attractive over time, but this is not the case. Women are getting more attractive despite no overarching selection for "sexy men", which throws a wrench in the hypothesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 02:44 AM
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Why would the variation in men, which should primarily be relegated to the Y chromosome (unique to men), along with the dimorphic sexual indicators that run counter to female selective pressures (such as increased musculature, narrower hips, greater bone growth) be primarily selected for the fitness of future daughters? Further, the widely accepted conflict theory of genomic imprinting runs counter to your argument, as the IGF maternal allele serves to limit child growth (for easier child birth)…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 02:23 AM
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You're trying to redirect, otherwise you'd have to attack the argument based on its merits. A group that systematically has higher rates of domestic abuse shockingly has children with worsened outcomes. Water is wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 01:05 AM
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We all do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 12:06 AM
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The moralistic fallacy and genetic fallacy are pretty sus as well. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/325033477_Equalitarianism_A_Source_of_Liberal_Bias
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 11:28 PM
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That wasn't related to my original comment. Don't call me love.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 09:01 PM
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You're confusing domestic duties with childrearing. I also didn't say men and women aren't participating, I said they aren't doing enough. Childcare is increasingly being outsourced as women's time is allocated to employment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 08:47 PM
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Guys need to understand what it feels like, for a women most men disgust them. They can’t imagine being sexually intimate with them. Guys need to think of the most obese wart filled girl to get an idea of how that feels. Men with options need only imagine committing to most promiscuous, "independent" modern women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 07:56 PM
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Not according to https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0049089X12000610 Children of lesbian couples performed significantly worse, with gay couples fairing slightly better than them on a few key metrics, and heterosexual couples performing the best. This is unsurprising seeing the rates of lesbian battery.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 06:50 PM
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Do you think pro-lifers care about the practice of abortion in general, or just the abortion of what they view as a human life? A basic perusal of her logic shows that she believes human fetus > animal, and, therefore, people who have moral gripes with the deaths of animals but not the deaths of fetuses make no sense to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 06:08 PM
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Maslow's hierarchy of needs suggests a genuine need for love; being validated as a sexual human being, one worthy of love, compassion, and devotion, is something necessary for both men and women, observable in women especially. We're humans, not perfectly rational robots that if you were to amalgamate us and apparently equivalent substitutes, like a dildo for sexual needs and friends for emotional needs, we'll be happy. While I don't believe men nowadays play nearly enough of a role in childrear…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 05:19 PM
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Sure, if we handwave and set up the ridiculous hypothetical where another male is as involved and dedicated to acting as a father figure in a child's life, there would be no additional benefit of a husband to act as a father. But, seriously, what a vacuous scenario. What, are you living with the grandfather? The uncle? Family friends? Forever? Do you have no sexual needs and emotional needs? Do you not think the presence of someone who lives with you and will always be there to provide more mone…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 04:50 PM
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https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-justice/report/the-real-root-causes-violent-crime-the-breakdown-marriage-family-and
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 04:28 PM
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what are the benefits of having a husband? Evidently more than having a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 04:23 PM
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This begs the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 04:17 PM
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I know I always do it if a thread is filled with stupid answers. So, all Q4W?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 03:57 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimism\_bias
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 01:24 PM
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Understandable. What I was trying to get at was whether you believed an average man would evoke genuine sexual desire from an average woman with "healthy standards". That's really the question. If that isn't true, well, isn't individual attractiveness of the posters in question a moot point? Given the validity of their position.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 10:44 AM
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Is that the question though? I've never had trouble dating, but have seen the ridiculous difficulty that some of my average friends have had, some of which are better people than myself. I think we're too quick to dismiss the opinions of some individuals simply due to the possibility of bitterness. Why can I have a similar opinion on the matter simply due to my success? And, what are "healthy" female standards to you? 50/50?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 10:32 AM
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So they see a world where average guys have zero chance, but really they are the kinds of guys who ALWAYS had very difficult times with normal women, whatever strategies were used. You can say that, but this position is a strawman, which in turn discounts the issue stated. These men typically admit they can BB or shoot below their league, but may never evoke genuine sexual desire. I will, however, concede that many men here are likely below average in some degree. Same as the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 10:18 AM
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I'm not discounting that there may be some new and serious gender imbalances going on. I dunno dude. It kinda feels like you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 10:02 AM
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They don't. They're just being super friendly. Women need to know my personality first. Or so I'm told.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/22 02:41 AM
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Huh. I guess these unsolicited tit pics and nudes are on a rollover payment plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 08:26 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 08:13 PM
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I'll take asinine and reductive false equivalencies for 500, Alex. Whether an equivalent "male" behavior exists is not the relevant question, but, rather, to what degree does that equivalent "male" behavior comparably occur. Your whataboutism is irrelevant because the comparison you are attempting to make is isolated to a much much smaller proportion of men than women, and a much much larger proportion of men suffer from the aftermath of these "complaints".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 07:21 PM
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Rather rude of you to call out the husbands of our PPD women like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:46 AM
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lightening Freudian slip?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:39 AM
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But damn, my liberal heart almost stopped Don't worry, you'll be an apron wearing, concealed carry packing tradwife in no time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:28 AM
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I'd utilize a razor, but likely in a more "inventive" manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:15 AM
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My condolences. If it's any consolation, if your baseline is already terrible enough, Weber's Law may mean the increase in unattractiveness from being blonde is unnoticeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 04:10 AM
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Many of us look terrible in all hair colors. So at least you have that going for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 03:51 AM
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Notice how women on dating apps don't just offer to come to your house and fuck you right away. Am I supposed to entertain your hypothetical where this hasn't happened?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 02:46 AM
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There's certainly no reason to extrapolate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 02:36 AM
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I know. Women tell me it's my intriguing personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 02:28 AM
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The only reason women disagree with it here is ppd disproportionately attracts women who got lucky and snagged a hot guy. "Allegedly"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:08 AM
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I completely understand. That's the real reason I would never date a victoria secret model.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 07:01 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representativeness\_heuristic
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:36 PM
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Yes, woman whose apparently personal experiences as an average man on tinder trump experimental data, I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:24 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kf1FO1uwP0
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:18 PM
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Here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:04 PM
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Mob appeal doesn't alter the net negative effects on your mind and body. If each person killed 3 other people on average, would moderate murdering suddenly be good?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 10:33 PM
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Because their value for monogamy isn't based on intrinsic convictions, but rather heavily influenced by extrinsic factors. They don't show consistent respect towards monogamy but rather a expedient pragmatism subject to their self-oriented whims and impulses. What do you think this means when a relationship hits a rocky point? Or when temptation occurs?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 10:27 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjmjqlOPd6A
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 10:16 PM
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1 hour jerking off wat Here's how much porn/drug use is excessive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 10:06 PM
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Christina Grimmie. I had a number of long conversations with her and friends in high school through youtube (I did a little bit of youtube at the time). I was happy for her that she was starting to take off on the main stage. It was a gut punch when I learned what happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 08:16 PM
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Referring to adults that you disagree with as "kids" is mocking. Hence, why I referenced that with "little miss" later on.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 06:24 PM
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You don’t debate relevant subject matter. That's rich coming from little miss "I want to devolve this discussion to attack your own bias to distract from the relevant subject matter" Your 2nd reply to me. You can read. It's upthread. It's honestly upsetting you're a mod.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 05:46 PM
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Use the exact words. You're intentionally making the argument low resolution again to make it seem like I'm doing something I'm not. And I know your persona as well. Devolving the conversation into a shit slinging contest and then pointing fingers and saying "he started it" due to an inability to admit fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 05:38 PM
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Don't use words you don't know. My argument is not "whataboutism". Go and explain how I'm doing what you claim, if you want to use such words willy nilly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 05:31 PM
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The problem is that I'm not engaging in Tu Quoque. However, I can understand it may appear that way to someone who is unversed in syllogisms. Your argument is that people who engage in "bad faith" are the ones who complain about being blocked, which I countered with a claim that your interpretation of "bad faith" is incorrect due to subjective interpretation and bias. You have no way of determining that you are not merely considering those users "bad faith" because you disagree with them in prin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 05:23 PM
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I’m not sure what you’re getting at outside in this thread of a “Tu quoque” “whataboutism” or whatever you kids say. Do you really not find it hypocritical to point out the "bad faith" of others when you feel the need to mock the arguments of your opponents to engender some validity in your own? Strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 05:01 PM
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Obviously we are all biased. Unfortunately for you, bias isn't a binary. Some perspectives are just more valid than others. I'm also aware of when someone unnecessarily generalizes an argument to be super low resolution so as to never admit fault. Now, I'm even more convinced you're culpable of "bad faith".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:47 PM
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Tu quoque typically isn't considered "good faith" argumentation, fyi. You're likely as culpable as the ones you're castigating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:33 PM
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Is that what you gathered from my comment? I'm illuminating the inutility and bias of your second paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:27 PM
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Subjective interpretation of what constitutes "bad faith" is meaningless as both sides will interpret disagreement as an attack on one's identity. If one responds emotionally by placing on a pair of ear muffs and scream "lalalala", that, however, is an objective measure of one's attachment to ideology and inability to separate self from debate. Blocking is bad faith regardless of perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:20 PM
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Yes, it's beneficial to de-incentivize the behavior to maintain good faith debate and open dialogue. I generally wouldn't report for any other reason; insults/circle jerking/trolling/etc don't impede the other party's ability to partake in discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:58 PM
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Just report, new rule #5.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:53 PM
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Sure but women generally bring more tangibly to partnerships and have the corresponding lower marital satisfaction rate to match. If by "tangibly" you mean 'physical attractiveness and sexual-wise', I'll agree. If not, I disagree; economic theory applied to dating suggests otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:11 PM
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As much as I love a good hasty generalization, I don't believe a twitter comment supplies sufficient evidence to showcase a trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:49 PM
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How do you mesh the following statement: If I couldn't find a man with my beliefs and values who viewed me as an equal, I know I would've preferred cats. With the below argument you made the other day: What is true is that both hypergamy and rampant catladyism are biologically defensible. Women are the ones who have normal IQs, they protect the mean. Men are both more likely to be geniuses and literal retards than women are, therefore a huge contingent of men are beneath the average woman from a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:05 PM
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Seeing as you have continually failed to demonstrate an actual change in outcome (NUMBERS before and after), wish to rely on hypotheticals, and fully ignored the latter 2 paragraphs of my comment, I'll bid you adieu. I'll probably have a more insightful dialogue with a mirror.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 12:50 PM
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I hope not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:20 AM
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Not as big as that big ol' rod in your rear. Remove it next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 04:04 AM
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What's your point? You're just pontificating tangential asides at me, which is why I haven't dignified them with a serious reply. The issue is pragmatic manipulation, not being settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:59 AM
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500 miles. And 500 more.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:41 AM
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I'm going to try a similar tactic for women I'm interested in just casually fucking. Whooosh
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:34 AM
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/u/figuringMylife, ONS material means you're so attractive to me personality-wise and physicality-wise that it simply overwhelms me so I can't commit long term. Girlfriend and wife material are women that are less attractive, so I feel more comfortable with them longer term, and obviously more insecure, because they need financial compensation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 03:23 AM
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where’s the line between hypergamous and in a woman’s best interest? At about 6'.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:25 AM
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That example doesn't work because the logic is circular. You're arguing that instituting child support policies increases child support for the single mothers. That's painfully obvious to anyone. Further, more child support is not a good thing. What you need to do to prove your case is provide an example that genuinely shows a reduction in negative outcome. Single motherhood rates. Divorce rates. Abortions. The issue with your argument is that you're failing to acknowledge that not only are you …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 02:07 AM
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This is a ploy to "marco polo" those who will similarly bend the fabric of reality to win arguments, like via devolution into semantic dispute, for practice, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 11:02 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BW1aX0IbZOE
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 08:45 PM
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Start with prestidigitation to clean off the cheeto dust.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 07:37 PM
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I'm going to try a similar tactic for women I'm interested in just casually fucking. Women, ONS material means you're so attractive to me personality-wise and physicality-wise that it simply overwhelms me so I can't commit long term. Girlfriend and wife material are women that are less attractive, so I feel more comfortable with them longer term, and obviously more insecure, because they need financial compensation. Honestly, that's how you sound, you goofy bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 05:28 PM
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Zero, just one of the many luxuries of being a man, love.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:39 AM
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Look, man. If i emasculate him enough, maybe I can get some ppd tail.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:25 AM
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...untenable position followed up with ad hominem. Check. One more for ppd bingo.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:11 AM
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Why are women rewarding violent men? Start going for soft, effeminate soy boys, ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 04:03 AM
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TIL the following points: Jealous people reek of insecurity & therefore unattractive to me Everyone has insecurities but forcing others to accommodate them is repulsive are not applicable to the above situation because of "reasons".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:58 AM
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Yes, what a shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:47 AM
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Schrödinger's Feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 03:28 AM
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Absolutely. It's repulsive when my girlfriend gets insecure about me just "spending the night" at my ex's place. Trying to force me to accommodate her feelings... how unattractive, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 02:01 AM
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If that's the case, it bolsters the argument that the large majority of women aren't rejecting out of purely "sociosexual reasons", but rather other factors. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:46 PM
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Choose better parents next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 11:08 PM
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Ackchyually
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 10:51 PM
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I'm rooting for you on this pursuit that is in no ways a prisoner's dilemma.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 10:20 PM
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There are plenty of really low quality women out there. Glances at the women on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 09:39 PM
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RIP
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 09:36 PM
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Don't complain about the poor quality of food to those who are starving.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 09:09 PM
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Individual neuroticism notwithstanding, because data suggests so. In univariate terms, the largest differences between the sexes were found in Sensitivity, Warmth, and Apprehension (higher in females), and Emotional stability, Dominance, Rule-consciousness, and Vigilance (higher in males).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 04:26 PM
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Probably all the trannies.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 03:38 PM
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How a woman rates herself means little if it isn't juxtaposed with how she rates a comparable man (by percentile relative to respective gender).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 01:29 PM
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What outcome are you basing this upon exactly? What data do you have to support your claim that your policy actually improves outcomes? Simple mathematics and understanding female vs. male selectivity shows you're wrong. If female's innately have a 10% selectivity for sex, and men have a 100%, you'll have a result of 10%. If you follow your policy and shift the responsibility by 20%, you now have 30% and 80% for women and men respectively, this results in 24%, an almost doubling of the result. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 01:09 PM
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Policy should be implemented in terms of outcome, not subjective morality. By offloading the responsibility from the group that both is innately more selective and should be pragmatically more selective due to the risks incurred, all that is accomplished is an increased single motherhood rate in the name of "fairness", which leads to a whole host of problems: educationally, criminally, economically, and continually. This is all notwithstanding the paradox of using government force and tyranny to…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 12:49 PM
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nobody wants to flirt with logical, transactional minded, meanie heads. My relationship history proves otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 02:56 AM
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Except you have no data beyond availability heuristics to support your contentions. With words like "plenty of men", you're handwaving to make an argument appear when you have supplied no premise to support such. I'll remind you your argument was "Frustration with women and their sexual timing largely comes from men who refuse to accept women with a sociosexual orientation similar to theirs". Your argument wasn't that plenty comes from these men; it was that it primarily comes from these men, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 01:55 AM
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Understanding the pareto principle as it applies to sexual partner count amongst men (20% of the men have 80%) demonstrates this claim as so ridiculous, it can only be considered ideological. Unless, for some unknown reason, the bottom 80% that get a pittance of casual sex are less frustrated with women and their sexual timing than the remaining 20% who could possibly be focus of the OP, which is obviously untrue. Ergo, the bottom 80% is frustrated with women's duplicitous sexual treatment of me…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 01:34 AM
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Have cbum's physique.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 06:57 PM
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Because there's a difference between identity-laden rhetoric and policy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 04:21 PM
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'Por que no los dos'
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 04:54 PM
1

That depends. Is it catnip to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 05:45 PM
9

Thank you PPD women for letting me know about facial hair's effect on women. After growing out a rocking 'stache, with the new cries of "creep" and "weirdo", I've finally gotten women to appreciate me for my personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 02:03 AM
0

Silly question. 99% of the women on PPD have 10/10, big cocked, successful, gentlemanly boyfriends/husbands. They say so all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 01:13 AM
1

Wow. And my dad demanded a test drive...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 12:40 AM
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Same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 08:53 PM
3

Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/22 05:31 AM
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No, I don't find the average man attractive. However, why should that matter to me, as a heterosexual male? Do I need to find an average man attractive to observe the ridiculousness of a mediocre woman feeling deserving of a partnership with an above average man? I don't "complain" about 80/20, as it's beneficial to a subset of men, but I do have an issue with the gynocentric, unrealistic, conflicting beliefs that result. It's mathematically impossible for a woman to be both attracted to a small…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 04:29 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/s288l4/comment/hsdiqbi/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 Doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:03 AM
1

No
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:00 AM
3

I, for one, believe when women say such things. It's also irrefutable that the girl I met my first week of freshman year genuinely thought I was gay, and wasn't just upset that I wouldn't date her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:47 AM
1

Dichotomous thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:19 AM
3

Reddit is the biggest argument for the pitfalls of democracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 12:36 AM
2

C'est la vie, mon amie. Ca ne me dérange pas.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:33 PM
2

I've got a number of similar stories. A bit ago, I was at the club with my buds, and this chick, maybe 5'2" 110 lbs sopping wet, eyes me dancing. She's wobbling and clearly overly intoxicated. Given her frame, she probably had taken one shot. Anyway, she hobbles over to me and looks me up and down, and without hesitating, shoves her hand in my pants. Mind you, I'm not a small dude; I'm 6'3" and have a swimmer's build. I look at her in shock and push her away from me. Deadass, with no shame, she …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 01:29 AM
6

As a man, there's nothing better than reaping all of the downsides of abstinence with none of the benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 12:37 AM
3

Same. "Hey, I'm interested in saving myself for the right woman under the lifelong bond of holy matrimony."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 12:17 AM
2

That seems like an absolute win.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 03:18 AM
1

I stare into my date's eyes for intimacy. Not because of my psychopathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 12:57 AM
2

As opposed to...? Forcing them to watch you eat?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 12:54 AM
2

I personally opt for 1g weekly tren, 8 iu daily hgh.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 08:31 PM
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Sorry, I'm not cool like you Mr. Sailor Scout guy. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 06:29 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAotPZ815wE
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 06:19 PM
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or casual sex Sneaky false analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 05:41 PM
3

That explains the condom prices... Fingers crossed for you PPD. This year's the year.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 04:06 AM
6

Let's keep delayed comebacks and imaginary arguments inside the shower, okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 03:56 AM
5

Yep, the women are definitely the ones "choosing" not to get married. Just like those pesky inkwells.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:57 PM
1

I know. The market demand for post-wall divorced mothers is absolutely astounding.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 11:52 PM
2

ItZ SoCiaLizaTion oF the ChilDreN EaRlY!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:40 PM
2

Bahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 11:48 PM
2

You should enjoy getting downvoted. Downvoting means that the other person/people had no suitable argument and chose to take the coward's path. It means you're the winner. Embrace it champ.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 10:01 PM
2

Almost all the guys I’ve known in trades have done well with women and also made pretty good money. So wouldn’t going into the trades, at the very least, help with two common issues that young men seem to have these days (money and women)? No, women use college education as a proxy for status and financial stability in mate selection. Having a master's degree on a tinder profile, for instance, makes women swipe ~90% more often than just a bachelor's. Women are heavily influenced by social norms,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 09:41 PM
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The top 1/3 of women got 2/3rds of all male messaging on the platform. 5x more messages as well. https://i.imgur.com/rFPWfbw.png More attractive men sent more messages. https://i.imgur.com/pgZO87D.png Correcting for "true" male ratings by percentile attractiveness instead of subjective rating show similar distribution of "messages received" between men and women. I can cherry pick data too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 09:06 PM
1

Only worth it for virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 09:01 PM
0

For me? 1/~4 billion. Henry Cavill or bust.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:15 PM
0

What's the point of bringing the conversation here? To bring it to the public eye to shame him? Haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:11 PM
1

Take it easy there, Buffalo Bill. Seems more like a woman wearing a man suit to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 07:03 PM
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Shhh bb. Don't worry about the last 3 girls I cheated on. You're different, I swear.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 03:20 AM
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Thank god. I found someone finally willing to overlook that murder charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 02:25 AM
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Stop lying to me Smurf. As long as you're taken, there is no hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 01:06 AM
2

Guys over like 25-26 definitely seem to have lost some of their youthful carefree energy That's what dating women does to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 12:34 AM
3

Cradle Robber
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/22 12:22 AM
2

Pass. I'm just trying to fulfill my dream of marrying a WNBA star.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 11:30 PM
1

Thanks I really needed this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 11:25 PM
6

And when I don't have my face as my icon, women argue with me a hell of a lot more. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 01:19 AM
1

I engage in moderate levels of misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 12:12 AM
3

Women don’t have an incentive to slut shame unless they’re religious and seeing it from a moralistic view. This is wrong. And determinably so, I could find many many many studies suggesting so. Any one who has interacted with women knows they slut shame to devalue potential romantic rivals. Regardless, using anecdotal experience sans data and obstinately saying you're right is far too childish for me to engage with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 05:09 PM
3

Neither of those points are true. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022103117304195?via%3Dihub
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 04:57 PM
1

Obviously it's all that "empathy" 🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 03:41 PM
4

Why do most women make hasty generalizations?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 06:18 PM
2

Height socialism when?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 10:18 PM
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Same, nessaea, same....
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:34 PM
1

You harlot!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 02:22 AM
3

No, because I never lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 02:36 AM
8

one of my favorite works of art A kind of narcissistic way to describe yourself, NGL.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:24 PM
2

Wait a second...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 10:13 PM
2

I'm trying. I can't quit you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 09:58 PM
1

New years res. In or out?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 09:57 PM
5

Do you think I would stay in this hellhole that long?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 09:54 PM
2

Where's your picture? Edit: Check discord or my banner since I'm not a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/21 09:51 PM
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I just hope she excels with "My Thing".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 11:43 PM
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https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/015/231/ngbbs43cddec7e2b26.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 11:13 PM
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WTB GF 5GP.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 11:00 PM
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FYM? このディオだ！
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:52 PM
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'My wallet's too small for my 50s... and my diamond shoes are too tight!'
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:51 PM
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Big cock. Definitely a big cock.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:25 PM
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I know exactly what you mean. With the fireplace on and netflix in the background, there's nothing better than snuggling up to my anime body pillow.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/21 10:22 PM
1

No, but, honestly, it's possible. Father is a derm; it would be a waste of opportunity. Still, everyone in our family doesn't age.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:36 AM
1

Nah, it can also be genetics, diet, and exercise, my mother got carded even at 50. I think she looked more like early 30s, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/21 03:29 AM
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I don't want to play with you anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 09:55 PM
3

Sarcasm, right? From personal experience, I can assure you that's not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 09:27 PM
3

Strawmen incoming.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 09:26 PM
0

And men have never doubted my emotional depth. If your go-to counterargument is to supplant the general concept of "people project personalities onto other people" with an extremely specific, personal experience to warp the argument and validate your own perspective, I understand why men may doubt your interest in reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 06:33 PM
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Exactly, it's extremely masculine to outsource your decision making and autonomy off to the government. I, personally, try to squeeze that in between encouraging my wife on her life goal of making millions of dollars for a faceless corporation and the government in tax revenue, and holding her hand while she's getting a train ran on her by the whole local college's hockey team. Because I'm just not insecure like the other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:34 PM
3

it’s toxic af Pot. Kettle.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 05:18 PM
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Boys. I'll let you know a secret. If they don't care, it's a massive red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 04:46 PM
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That's just a human thing. Not a woman thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 04:36 PM
2

😑
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 02:23 PM
1

The bigger red flag is labeling a home as an "asset".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 02:01 PM
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🙄 Look. Me defining people with 40+ n-counts as degenerates is not the same as defining all sex outside of marriage as degenerate. I made it very clear that I'm perfectly fine with sex outside of marriage within reason but for those that wish to get married, it interferes with the goal and function of marriage and, thus, is a bad choice. It's rather rude to agree it's not worth the debate, and then follow up by belligerently reducing my viewpoints to some naive and slanted bunk. I can assure you…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 01:59 AM
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I strongly disagree, but it's your life. First, you gave an explanation for why you would prefer him only to have sex with people that he cared for in LTR, and then handwaved away his one casual encounter by redefining the standards as someone he "knew". Second, you admitted initial shock to the number of partners he had, and then looked up information to deal with the dissonance, confirming to yourself that you're dating a low count person by establishing 15 as the threshold based on internet d…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 01:34 AM
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It is extremely difficult to find a non religious man that only has N of 1 lol. Not impossible, but certainly not easy. You're an outlier. Well, I'm sure we're not too hard to find if you include the ugly ones. 🙃 Besides, I wouldn't even call myself "non religious". I've oriented my life off of nietzschean and stoic philosophy, and accept the benefits of a lot of judeo-christian values (hence the abstinence). Even if I don't believe in god, I still follow teachings of those more knowledgeable th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 12:33 AM
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Well, my number is zero. So I guess that "really" makes me a turbo virgin. 💪 Honestly though, fuck society's "standards". Your standards are whatever you deem appropriate. I think, however, the original posters were referring to "low" as meaning roughly in the same ballpark as the woman, due to the risk of infidelity. I don't particularly view your case as applicable, because you aren't even dating, but, if you were... I'd think about it a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 11:29 PM
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Stanley Milgram.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 11:17 PM
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😉 Not that I'm judging you, but don't you think that the imbalance in N count between you and your partner runs counter to the original commenters' theme of low n-women wanting a low n-man?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 11:09 PM
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What's your partner's body count?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 10:59 PM
2

God bless lifetime concealed carry. USA! USA!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 10:18 PM
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Agreed, but, for men, n-count can also serve as a rough predictor of SMV. Unattractive men rarely have a high n-count, regardless of how little self control they may have. It's clear that attractiveness correlates with n-count for men, but for women, there's little correlation if any; some of the most unattractive of them can have extremely large n-counts. This correlation may force women to de-prioritize sexual history in favor of having the most appealing partner on other fronts (money/beauty/…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 10:01 PM
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Female Infidelity Based on Number of Premarital Sex Partners Number of Pre-Marital Partners Percent Who Cheated Once Married (%) 2 10.4 3 14.9 4 17.7 5 21.6 6-10 26.0 11-20 36.7 21+ 46.8 NORC General Social Survey (2014) Anyone feeling lucky enough for a coin flip?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 09:37 PM
2

cute 😍
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 08:27 PM
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Yes. Almost 40 likes until a message. I don't online date anymore for obvious reasons. You should message, those are the girls I went on dates with.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 07:24 PM
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I feel like a lot of women act like spiders Or you'll liquefy a man's "guts" and leave him a shell of his former self?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 04:56 PM
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Yes, even as pro-life as I am, that's not living; it'll be to the kids' benefit, and they will never reach a point of consciousness where they can make the decision themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 02:21 PM
1

Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 02:01 PM
4

I was the same way, but my friends thought I was the weird one. "Get out", they yelled and "Put your dick away". 😢
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 03:51 AM
2

Please. You can't even figure out where you want to eat for dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 02:59 AM
2

Women seem to have a loose definition for "friend". If you're close enough to be true friends, then the man will have already made a move. If he hasn't, either you aren't really friends or he isn't interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 02:54 AM
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since we will obviously know what we want. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 02:44 AM
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Idk. I'm an asshole. So take that as you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/21 01:55 AM
1

And here I was thinking I was the only one willing to point out the latent effects of women's suffrage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 11:50 PM
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F to the people that think social constructionism has any meaningful application beyond pseudointellectual masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 11:05 PM
3

Nuance has never been the strong suit of government policy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 05:03 PM
1

I, however, do. 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 04:50 PM
2

I personally know I can spread "it" with my "viral load".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 04:41 PM
1

It's no different from someone being "nice" to everyone. If you have no capacity for doing harm, you're not nice, you're just a coward.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 04:28 PM
1

Although my point was more on the unconstitutional extension of right to privacy and the use of the niche, excessively stringent anti-abortion laws of Texas to hamfistedly curtail all, far more lenient, States' ability to legislate abortion, entering a conversation by simultaneously asserting something as a "right", while admitting acceptance of decisions because they fit your belief set, despite blatant disregard to legislative process is probably not the right move.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 03:52 PM
1

I already knew how that feels. Women aren't so different from men towards people they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 01:10 PM
2

I guess that's very fortunate for someone like yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 12:49 PM
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First, I wish them godspeed on their feminist prisoner's dilemma. Second, I swear no abortion advocate understands how draconic and over-reaching Roe v. Wade is from a purely legislative perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 12:30 PM
2

in fact was on disability most of last year What was he gonna do? Roll in with his wheelchair while blasting Chamillionaire? I've heard that's a hit with the ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 03:41 AM
0

My short stint was a bunch of gay men sending me many consecutive texts, explaining how their zeal and perseverance was because they really wanted to be "friends". Yeah... "friends" with my asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 03:22 AM
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I'll bet he's the kind of guy that would fuck a person in the ass and not even have the goddam common courtesy to give him a reach around.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 11:00 PM
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Weird-o.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 06:06 PM
2

Same
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 04:34 PM
2

Maybe? Maybe not? It's impossible to quantify without experiencing life as both a man and a woman. I want to note though, throughout human history 40% of men reproduced while 80% of women did. Due to the additional difficulty of finding a mate and the difference in mate replaceability between the sexes, I'd imagine the average man would have a biological process in place to bind him more tightly to a mate if he managed to snag one; this could be in the form of "deeper" love. I, also, would posit…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 03:21 AM
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Yup. Agreed. I'm so glad I have never had to worry about a woman wanting to "just hookup" with me, and I have a good estimation of which women are comfortable dating me. I never feel pressured into sex, and I am in control of the development of a relationship; I can approach/talk to/date the people of my choosing, instead of waiting for someone who I find attractive to eventually come to me. Plus, I hate pretending to be nice to people. It's nice. I feel bad for what women have to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 02:29 AM
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Men are more violent than women. Men are more aggressive physically and women are more aggressive socially. What do we think the larger muscles are for? Staring at? Flexing? What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 01:09 AM
2

You ignored two defining characteristics: 1) defining something arbitrarily as sub-human and 2) killing something after making a willful decision that brings that "something" into the world. All to make some vaguely related analogies. Starting a conversation like you did, is like me describing a car as being colored, having four wheels, and transporting people, and then you isolating the word "colored" and showing me a picture of a fucking parrot and telling me, "the parrot is colored too; it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 11:58 PM
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Because defining something arbitrarily as sub-human and killing it for self-serving purposes veiled behind "reproductive rights", despite the individual making, in 99% of cases, a conscious and willful decision that brought the fetus into this world, is morally contemptible, childish thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 11:21 PM
1

Probably the same reason I read feminist literature and came here, to see other viewpoints logically (HAHAHA - me) argued and see how my own stood up under scrutiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 09:46 PM
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Lol. Nah, not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 09:10 PM
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Because it is easy. The "clump of cells" contains a unique set of DNA that codes for a unique human existence, and will inevitably become a separate human being that will have its own thoughts, beliefs, and aspirations in a known amount of time, unless you legally permit its death through abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 09:00 PM
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Yet, I never posited abortion as a scientific issue. It's clearly a moral issue, by which people, like the individual I was responding to, use (un)scientific explanations to rationalize treating the fetus not as a moral patient. You're portraying a ideological bias by commenting to me a response that should have been reserved for the comment above mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 08:56 PM
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😑 That has got to be the stupidest "gotcha" I have ever heard. Fallacy of division.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 08:34 PM
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And, you're exemplifying the semantic gymnastics people use. Biologically, a fetus is irrefutably both a human and alive on conception. The differentiators of living, ie: "heart beat" and "consciousness", that people use have no basis in science and have been engendered simply to explain how murder isn't murder when it benefits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 08:23 PM
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First, "deserves" is not the correct word here; that's intentionally directive. Second, deliberate action vs. apathetic inaction are entirely different from an ethical perspective. This is demonstrated in the classical "trolley" moral dilemma. I can oppose intentional killing of another person who should have the same rights under the law, while not personally taking care of that person that I wished to not be killed. Third, there are plenty of other options instead of murdering a child. Adoptio…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 08:18 PM
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Good. The semantic gymnastics people use to make murder seem morally acceptable just to eliminate the risk and burden from a personal and willful choice is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 08:05 PM
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Stop gaslighting. You're not a man. You have no lived experience as a man who has rejected women for being promiscuous. For the love of god, be quiet if you don't know anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:37 PM
12

Famous Dex put it best. "Hoes mad"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 04:05 PM
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We know exactly what the point was: a way for OP to pat herself on the back and feel justified in her beliefs that "a woman's past shouldn't matter" by disingenuously nesting the untenable sentiment inside a much more difficult to refute hypothetical.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:25 PM
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Yeah... I can't do this. You've vomited a word salad onto the description of a CMV whose underlying argument structure is almost so entirely incomprehensible and up to such subjective interpretation of the details that should be shared of one's "sexual and relationship past" that you are able to motte-and-bailey any counter-argument out of existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 05:55 AM
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And, yet, you preemptively suggest reticence, even going as far as casting aspersions to those that want to know. If the past truly doesn't matter, why go through all the effort of hiding it? Why care about those who want to know? Why not just reveal it all?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 05:19 AM
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Is the crux of your argument the saying "ignorance is bliss"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:35 AM
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Would you clarify what you mean by "low standards" and "high standards"? The difference between your headline of "a lot of women have low standards/ small percentage of women... have high standards" and the detailed description of standards as "6'6" baller" or top "1%" makes the argument come off strongly as one of equivocation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 03:29 AM
2

🙃
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 01:17 AM
3

I prefer to steal them by convincing them to make wax hands with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/21 01:04 AM
3

The duality of man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 07:44 PM
2

And that is vapid. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 07:29 PM
2

The denizens of AITA and PPD use their collective brainpower to focus on only the most pressing and impactful issues of our time. Truly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/21 07:26 PM
3

I don't give a fuck. Got my anime body pillow.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/21 04:49 PM
1

Some ways are more equal than others. Honestly, why focus on the premarital part when I'm quite literally the only guy here who pushes it? It's, just, weird. There are a million other viewpoints that are more common. Frankly, your attention to what should be a non-issue to you, the argument irrationality, and various other comments about your life, only convinced me that there is some personal attachment present regarding marital satisfaction and contemplation of past, current, and or future act…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 01:01 PM
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Are you referring to me passive aggressively, since I'm the only one you talked to today about premarital sex? If you are, that's a shit reduction of my views. You do realize my position is that marriage is such a bad deal for men that only those that can wait and find someone else to wait until marriage should do it. Everyone else should just stay in cohabitation or having casual sex or doing anything else that doesn't involve the shit American government.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 06:29 AM
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Or once you earn it, you'll start asking yourself, why did this matter to me in the first place? But hey, now you know how to play guitar, can sing, and bench 2.5 plates.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 06:24 PM
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No. If a man with higher IQ can't figure out a way to outcompete a man that's otherwise exactly the same or at least cultivate more interesting hobbies, he's a worthless, lazy pedant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 06:09 PM
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No. I hate myself, but I hate everyone else more. Just as someone with low self-esteem can still think they're better than everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 05:41 PM
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Sci-hub.se I'm surprised people don't know how to get literature on the internet. No. Your view doesn't make any sense. The only meaningful difference for men between true friendships with women and relationships with them is the presence of sexual exclusivity. First, if all the women I date are my friends, then the most pertinent metric through which I should filter them is via their propensity to be sexually exclusive. You're going off on all the gobbedlygook about these other factors to consi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 03:39 PM
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In illustration of this, the odds ratio of 1.13 for lifetime sexual partners obtained with the face-to-face mode of interview indicates that the probability of infidelity in- creased by 13% for every additional lifetime sexual partner, whereas the odds ratio of 5.16 for premarital cohabitation obtained with the face-to-face mode of interview indicates that the probability of infidelity was 5.16 times more likely for those who cohabited relative to those who did not cohabit. From: https://pubmed.…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 01:24 PM
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You're now aware that you're breathing manually.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 11:00 PM
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Bahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 10:15 PM
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Results > Ratings. I've been single for a year, so I'd say you're more attractive than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 09:32 PM
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Sure, the break-point has to do with social influence. Girls who are merely complying to appease their strict parents will more likely go crazy than girls who either identify with or completely internalize the set of beliefs as part of their identities.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 09:27 PM
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Yeah, I wrote the analogy in a way that requires too much of a leap (because it was about the non-redneck states)... Restrictions and mandates through legislation (ie: strict parenting) attempt to shelter constituents (ie: daughters) from the coronavirus (ie: sex), but fail to teach them values and behaviors on which to think and operate autonomously, so when the constituents (ie: daughters) are able to act in a way that isn't monitored, they tend to act without discretion, spreading the coronav…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 09:11 PM
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Mildly reminiscent of how the daughters of extremely strict, religious parents go off to college, get a little bit of freedom, and then get their backs blown out by the entire hockey team.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 09:01 PM
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Mmmm. Yeah... I was definitely contemplating posting shirtless pictures of myself for all the undoubtedly top tier women of ppd. And, in no way, suggesting that a certain someone provide pictures of herself in a bikini as she lounges on a foreign beach, sipping on mimosas and browsing reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 07:14 PM
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Thanks. Now that I'm Chad... beach pics?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 06:32 PM
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86%. Yay or nay?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 05:44 PM
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There's plenty of sense in abstinence; there's little sense in the reverse. Anyone who understands the dopaminergic pathways of the brain understands that bad habits, once formed, are difficult to break, and remain permanently, making one susceptible to relapse. When the timeline of abstaining from a bad habit (ie: having sex with someone other than your partner) is lifelong, it's extremely difficult for permanent avoidance. It's no wonder that there is a 1.13 odds ratio for infidelity with each…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 05:23 PM
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Even as one of the most vocal supporters of abstinence until marriage on this sub, I still believe that a situation like yours is ideal. It's a much more pertinent descriptor of character when one is able to have sex with a singular person who they love and be committed long-term without relying on the rigid tenants of religious and/or ideological dogma. It shows an ability to accurately assess a partner, a deep trust, and a dedication, as there's not the legal obligation binding your future beh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 04:51 PM
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Your assertion of correlation does not imply causation due to SOLELY the reasons of religiosity and social conservatism does not hold under scrutiny. Infidelity In illustration of this, the odds ratio of 1.13 for lifetime sexual partners obtained with the face-to-face mode of interview indicates that the probability of infidelity increased by 13% for every additional lifetime sexual partner, Further Regarding the correlates of infidelity, results indicated that on the basis of both methods of as…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 03:52 AM
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It also incentivizes marriage. With the current western zeitgeist towards equality, men have been made acutely aware of the changes to the institution of marriage. Women are more independent, less willing to support their man's career, less likely to stay at home, and more likely to have sex before marriage. With the removal of a supportive wife in favor of an independent one and sex no longer being exclusive to marriage, it is difficult for men to rationalize the move from cohabitation to marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 03:06 AM
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I wouldn't give a shit, because I'm not most men. Regardless, we can't control the behaviors of others. We can only control our responses. Is it easier to change the minds of all those that hate us, or change our own perception of them and their inclusion in our lives? To that end, I believe you capable of at least blocking him are you not? Yes, I'm an asshole, but I wrote my comment because I agree with most of your takes; for the most part, they're nuanced and intelligent. I don't give advice …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 10:28 PM
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Then either respond to him directly or report him. Don't respond around him in the general thread like a passive aggressive teenager. What does your behavior do, except make the energy more negative? Try to get other people to ignore him? "Wolves do not lose sleep over the opinions of sheep"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 10:11 PM
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Lucky for you. I have a spare.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 09:01 PM
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Nah. My friendships are balanced. Why the hell are guys friends with someone who seems to be taking advantage of them? Because they feel the woman's attractiveness has value in a friendship, compensating for effort and connection. Looks are only as valuable as we let them be (by being sexually/romantically outcome oriented).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 08:59 PM
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Then about 25 schmeckles.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 08:39 PM
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Depends on if you start pegging him or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 08:32 PM
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This is such high school girl behavior. You're talking shit about someone nearby to influence the social perspective of him. If you don't care, scroll on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 07:51 PM
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Nothing makes me go a big rubbery one faster than when a woman brings up any feminist bullshit on a date. Tell me how you're not going to give a shit about any of my problems in a relationship without telling me you're not going to give a shit about any of my problems in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 07:45 PM
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It sounds like someone, obviously, hasn't heard of the hot martian men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 06:47 PM
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who makes more money than you Is this supposed to be a pro?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 06:25 PM
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And then she becomes less hot. Basically dooming herself to middling men who have to take what they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 06:24 PM
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Flat tummies don't open pickle jars.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 05:25 PM
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Fair, but women still add points to personality based on your attractiveness. That is irrefutable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 04:16 PM
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That's bullshit. "Value personality much higher". Pffft. Personality correlates with attractiveness; ie: women rate men who are more attractive as having better personalities. Halo effect. Women tell me I'm charming and funny, and, yet, I'm a fucking asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 04:12 PM
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Obviously the percentages were made up, they were to point out a hypothetical. I'm simply stating, by your logic, only an individual who has experienced a condition de facto has understanding, or at least moreso than an individual who hasn't experienced that condition. Using an analogy of your logic to medicine, you would presume that patients who suffer from a disease (possibly chronic) must understand their disease more-so than their doctor, simply because they have experienced it. This is unt…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 03:11 PM
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The makeup comparison is kind of wonky, because men also associate heavier makeup with unrestricted sociosexuality. As it's well-known that men will both engage in both monogamy and promiscuity, a man would want a woman with less makeup as a relationship partner, posited by the study as his desire for decreased intersexual competition and cuckoldry.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:47 PM
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And I'm suggesting that while 0% of men will understand womanhood 100%, and possibly 2% of women who have lived it understand it 100%, it's still possible for 50% of men understand it 40%, while only 5% of women understand it 40%. Would men understand women better in this scenario? You've created a false dichotomy and are just speaking past my logic at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:23 PM
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That's a tangential point that in no way refutes my own. Besides, I agree, in large part. I do believe that one can only truly understand experiences they themselves have had. However, I'm suggesting that merely experiencing something does not imply understanding. In this manner, while I may not ever be able to fully grasp the life experiences, motivations, and perception of being a woman, I may understand far more than a singular woman simply because she has never had a reason or the motivation…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:16 PM
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Generally, experiencing something does not necessitate understanding. Understanding is facilitated by pressures that require such. If something works from day one, there is no such pressure. A naturally overly attractive man may fail to understand the underlying forces within seeking love and sex, despite having great overall experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:03 PM
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Pillow shaped and with my favorite anime characters on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 11:12 AM
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When I traveled to India for 2 months, I developed a disproportionate attraction to Indian women that persisted for some time. You could argue that this change was a natural biological reflex to motivate me sexually. Just as with your argument, you could assert that it was based on my experiences and development; I don't see how that affects whether I had a "fever" or not. Isn't a fever, by definition, an abnormal fixation on a certain race different from your own? I don't see how the underlying…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 11:09 AM
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I've always been friends first. In regards to dating, I'm pretty lazy though. Unless I care for you as a person, it's EXTREMELY difficult for me to be proactive in dating, and women typically rely on that proactivity as a sign of interest. Honestly though, how is anyone arsed to put in more effort than someone they feel is their equal if they don't already care for that person on an emotional level? There are so many better things to do, like shitpost on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 10:57 AM
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Maybe instead of making a point by point refutation of the OP, it might be more substantial to create a coherent argument as to why one SHOULD have sex before marriage. But, I find it hard to believe one can rationalize the animalistic moral contemplation of "oogabooga. thing feel good. do thing. thing feel bad. don't do thing." Your argument, with its attempt to invalidate abstinence from premarital sex, doesn't even try to argue that the alternative is superior, which makes your comment utterl…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 10:27 AM
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Mods are cool original in thought and expression destined to enforce the righteous order so don't troll or be mean ​ at least try to be neutral really do even if it hurts ​ gridrexx is awesome all of the rest are swell too you wouldn't know until you talk to them .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 02:14 AM
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That's OP's interpretation of the events. We weren't there; we didn't see it from the boyfriend's perspective. We have no idea if the man thought his cute girlfriend was just waving at him, so he stupidly waved back, with no extra thought. This is my main issue with this sub, many assume intent, and expect others to view a situation in the same way that they would. They think "I would've acted this way. Because this other person didn't, it must mean they deliberately were malicious so are a bad …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 03:15 AM
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That's what you took from my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 02:48 AM
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I'll put my two cents in. As a guy, I'd have drove my car and picked up the girl; I think it's the right thing to do. However, the fact that so many of you women are genuinely getting upset at the guy reeks of entitlement. I've been a dipshit before, so I can see that the guy could've just not been thinking. His mind could've been on other things; maybe if he were in the woman's shoes he wouldn't have minded walking, so it didn't even cross his mind. If the expectation is that a man ALWAYS knows…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 02:39 AM
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I heard Dancing in the Moonlight today. I thought back to swing dancing on the river banks, after sharing a fire-cooked dinner and a long day of kayaking down the Ocoee, before falling asleep to do it all over again the next day. That was a simpler time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 01:28 AM
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Life goes on without me, cause...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 07:19 PM
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Yes, I'm really trying to empathize by being similarly open minded, but I'm afraid of reaching the point where my brain starts to fall out. Like certain individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:24 PM
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You done circle jerking so y'all can feel better about your shit opinions?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 03:06 PM
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And I'm sure your apartment smells of rich mahogany.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 01:05 PM
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Yes, because, as one ages and becomes less and less appealing, it makes sense to continue to rely on the waning sexual validation of others to feel good enough. That's what adults and parents should preach, right? Stubbornly cling to the vestiges of your youth, instead of learning more mature coping strategies. What's the definition of insanity?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:23 PM
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That's a strange way to explain cognitive dissonance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:04 PM
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65 Not far enough to stop suggesting you pick it up. Maybe when I'm at part 3. And I refuse to believe the "brilliant" ppders aren't just listing off a couple of books from their highschool ap lit classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 09:15 AM
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I find psychological unraveling smothers me like a warm blanket. It's probably why I enjoy observing ppd so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 09:10 AM
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Dudes just blatantly staring at you What the hell? They haven't learned to bounce their vision off of at least 16 mirrors?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 09:02 AM
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Just read crime and punishment with me. It'll put you right out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 08:57 AM
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There's no way any of you fucks have picked up a book since your college English 101 classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 08:51 AM
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This is why God is dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 08:47 AM
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So you think men and women should be treated differently based on their biologies? I agree. Maybe then all the braindead ppd women can finally shut the fuck up about men caring about body counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 08:42 AM
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When you suggested that society is inherently a patriarchy, ignoring the fact that majority of the disaffected are men and the fact that women seem to benefit from their gender in virtually all situations (prison sentencing, divorce, education, and work) when the authority recognizes a woman instead of a man is under scrutiny. Further, you decided to refute IQ for the following reason: And yet it is has never been proven that it is a direct causation.There's a reason why IQ is a highly controver…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 04:24 PM
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Yes, just like the societal barriers that cause men to make up 75% of the homeless population, 90% of the prison population, receive 63% longer sentences than women for the same crime, receiving 1/3rd lower marks on reading exams (despite scoring higher on standardized tests) only if the grading is non-anonymous, being half as likely to be hired into a stem tenured role as a woman with the same qualifications, I could go on. But no. Women have been subjugated in society based on the vague and un…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 03:42 PM
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Except that the Scottish IQ study (and virtually all other IQ studies) of 80000 children showed overwhelming support for the greater male variability hypothesis, demonstrating a statistically significant ratio in differences between men and women in both the high IQ (>115) and the low IQ (<85) groups. As IQ goes to the extremes, over-representation of men relative to women is even further illustrated. At an IQ of 140 or 60, for example, there is almost 2 men for every woman. Women are always ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 03:23 PM
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Hmm interesting. I didn’t really think of it that way. I’ve always associated it more with class, culture, and colonialism. You're not wrong. That is certainly a gigantic aspect. Still, there's a concept called "instinctive drift", which is the tendency of animals to revert to their instinctual behavior when attempting to learn something counter to nature. This idea can be extended to humans and the various social/cultural attempts that are made to interfere with our biological propensities. I'd…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 12:42 AM
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What's the difference? Self-respect. I would agree with that statement, but it doesn't apply to the prostitute who does not hold convictions that prostitution is immoral. That's quite the premise. What of the government officials that don't hold convictions that bribery is immoral? And, what of the prostitutes who hold convictions that prostitution is immoral, but choose to do so out of desperation and ease?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 11:48 PM
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Yes, as there's also a difference from selling an inanimate object you spent time and effort developing, and part of yourself that you were born with. If you wanted an actual counterexample not meant to poke a hole in yours: I mean, does a government official who sells his beliefs not hold them in high regard?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 11:36 PM
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I mean, does a father who sells his children not hold them in high regard? Does that make it okay for the government to steal them?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 11:28 PM
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Not giving the squat rack up early might be a good place to start.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 11:14 PM
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Yeah, there was an interesting piece of literature I read a while back about skin tones and interracial dating. You may know that yellowish skin tones play a particularly important role in attractiveness by signalling health (through consumption of carotenoids, lower body fat, and higher aerobic fitness). It turns out that humans of particular races are better able at subconsciously assessing skin pigmentation of their own race, more accurately determining good 'health' in potential partners, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:23 PM
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Not quite. I feel like a dick when I explain it, but there are three groups in descending size: South Asian men South Asian men that are willing to date outside of their race South Asian men that are willing to date outside of their race and find you, in particular, worthy of dating. Your comment references the first two groups. I was suggesting there may be a correlation between the preferences of men in the third group and their tendency to be self-hating and white worshiping due to their stan…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 04:49 PM
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Typical Poppy, trying to overwhelm people with non-sequiturs to feign a valid argument. Here's a thought: some people don't think murder should be morally acceptable and legally permitted. Having a moral position doesn't necessitate one directly benefiting. You seem to be stuck in preconventional/early conventional morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 02:23 PM
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A bit of a selection bias there. Many of the south Asian men willing to date you, specifically, are white-worshipping and self-hating. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 11:56 AM
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He's saying that data suggests overall, much fewer people are settling down, and of those that do, only these few are settling down later. He's suggesting your answer doesn't even address the question. I swear ppders have such degenerated prefrontal cortices that only phrases stated literally and directly can be understood.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 03:51 AM
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0 in binary.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 03:15 AM
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Did you know, if all the humans stretched out and held hands across the equator... Most of them would drown.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/21 07:03 PM
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I knew you were the based girl here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 02:39 AM
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You sure it's not contempt, or scorn, or disdain? It's hate?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 01:34 AM
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He was 20 years old. Shouldn't you be giving him a cookie?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 01:18 AM
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This is like putting all your money in the bank instead of the stock market. Sure, you'll never lose, but you sure as hell won't ever win either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 11:44 PM
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One who thrives on stale bread expects an open ear and a compassionate heart from those with no bread at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 11:18 PM
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How close are you? Close enough to understand JoJo references, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 10:20 PM
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Sure, but there's value in the Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 10:18 PM
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Have you tried being hotter? Or taller? That works for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 10:07 PM
1

Anyone wanna learn a new language?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 10:05 PM
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Entertainment is inherently grounded in a bit of reality. It's grounded in such a way that it is relatable to the audience, so that they can be attached to the characters. Good stories typically add on top of reality, in a way that doesn't conflict with our understanding of the world. The issue that Wyatt intelligently brings up, is that these forms of entertainment intentionally supplant reality in a way that is the opposite from expectations, making them difficult for the audience to relate to…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 01:20 PM
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I personally have always cared less about the physical differences and more about the motivational differences, because I like to try to understand a person's reasons for doing something. Why would someone both desire and be willing to sacrifice everything to be the best of the best? For men, they experience possibly greater biological success, which would contribute to the continuance of such motivations. Unmarried men tend to take far greater risks (like criminal behavior) so that they can fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 01:00 PM
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I know. Right? We need to fix our laundry machines. My socks always get lost in the wash.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 01:27 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k0SmqbBIpQ
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/21 12:54 AM
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BAHAHA. Legend.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 11:22 PM
1

So basically be a better beta buck by being a better betta buck?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 09:48 PM
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Definitely by dredging the PPD subreddit. You only find the creme de la creme here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 09:39 PM
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When I was dating, I'd always take them swing dancing. It shows leadership/partnership, creates physical intimacy, teaches them a skill, and showcases your talent.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 07:54 PM
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No reason to believe that isn't a false cause fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 05:42 PM
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The men have a desire to have children. A strong family structure is quintessential to rearing well-adjusted humans, regardless of religiosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 05:40 PM
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I'm not having sex until marriage. I'm an atheist. I'm attractive, I've dated plenty of women, and have had plenty of opportunities to have sex. I, however, understand that having sex means that I harm my future marriage. I risk being less satisfied, more likely to be unfaithful, and more likely to divorce my wife. I'm going to do everything to ensure I'm happy, my wife is happy, and my kids are happy in the future. Do you view this as a red flag?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 02:29 AM
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I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That was really insensitive of me. Anyway... If you take my advice and see an orthopedist, they might be able to find that spine you seem to be missing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 01:40 AM
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Bahaha. That's brutal. You had to sit on your thoughts, putting all the weights away, while he watched. You might want to visit an orthopedist.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 01:24 AM
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But did you unrack the weight?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 01:14 AM
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I agree. I personally prefer kale smoothies, quinoa salad, and stripping my life of any and all forms of enjoyment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 01:06 AM
3

That explains why 'In the hall of the Mountain King' just doesn't do it for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 10:57 PM
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Heartbreak made me love more. It made me glad that I cherished something so much that I was saddened to see it go. One can only know true happiness when they have suffered greatly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 10:55 PM
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Honestly, NNN is going to kill me. I'm looking for new pieces to play, and this pianist's ability and hands are making me feel a type of way. I'm going to have to start wearing blinders when I go out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 09:33 PM
1

That's a good point. First one I've seen all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 08:20 PM
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Look, poppy. If you honestly didn't care about what men do, you wouldn't be complaining about them and what they think/say all the time. Just calm down, stop, and smell the roses.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 08:13 PM
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The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 08:04 PM
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I don’t give a flying fuck what men do. The lie detector determined that was a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 08:01 PM
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Whineception.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 07:55 PM
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If some schmuck were offering you a trip to the maldeves in exchange for sex, would you honestly reply, "I'm sorry, but I just want to have sex with you. No need for the free trip. Thank you."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 07:21 PM
3

I've had more insightful conversations in front of a mirror.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/21 06:11 PM
2

What kind of car do you want to have sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 11:26 PM
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Ok. Men desire to feel needed and express their love by what they can do and how they can help, not by appealing to or dealing with your emotions. Think about all the times you tried to bring a man a problem. How often does he try to fix that problem instead of supporting your emotions? If a man tells you "I love you", no action is done, nothing is accomplished, your life doesn't get any better, so he doesn't feel like he is helping you or really even "loving" you. A man's default is to 'fix the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 11:11 PM
2

Then why does it matter? If his actions speak for themselves, why be concerned with mere words? People express their feelings and emotions in different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 10:54 PM
2

What about using Occam's razor?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 10:31 PM
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You're a hottie. There. You now have gotten more compliments than most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 10:07 PM
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You're being disingenuous by putting words into his mouth. He simply used the word 'want', which you have conflated with meaning wanting commitment and a relationship. Could he not 'want' a more casual relationship with a woman who is promiscuous? Edit: I do want to mention that a promiscuous woman is, by definition, being inconsistent if she wants to settle into a long-term relationship with you specifically, despite her history for not doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 09:04 PM
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I want someone who shares and appreciates my values. If a woman wants to sleep with me on the first night, I already know she cares more about my looks than my values.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 08:58 PM
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Yes. If they're enabling behavior that should be curtailed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 08:51 PM
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Sure, looking at a singular individual or the entire population I can see the merit in the argument; crystallized intelligence, maturity, and independence will likely positively correlate with time, especially pre-age 25. But, for a group, like singledom, whose membership changes throughout the years in ways directly tied to the aforementioned traits, I'd be hard-pressed to be convinced. Tied to the pre-25 age mark, it's also worth noting 'openness' and the importance of socialization during the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 08:40 PM
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As a guy who has dated both older and younger women, I've found the opposite to be true. We often conflate age with maturity, intelligence, and independence, but, in reality, age often means baggage, stubbornness, and ideology, especially amongst those who have remained single (ie: can't find a partner). Our brains stop maturing after the age of 25, and, if one 'matures' with detrimental qualities, those qualities tend to stick, and stick hard. Looking at dating, women are naturally predisposed …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 07:39 PM
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What are you talking about? Have you SEEN the men of ppd? ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 12:24 AM
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Every time I felt like crying in my life, I did something about it. I❤️being a man
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 11:51 PM
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Everything you say makes me die of laughter. Keep doing you, my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 11:49 PM
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As they say, "Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep." And yet, you're here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 11:18 PM
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I'm single by choice. Women's choice. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 10:51 PM
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No. But only if you plan on living a cuckold fantasy watching other dudes have sex with your girlfriend/wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 09:59 PM
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I think this is just an attractive person thing, regardless of whether you grew up ugly or not. I'm an aloof, asocial guy, and I was having a conversation with one of my best female friends and I asked her, "Do you honestly think we'd be friends if I wasn't attractive?" She thought about it and answered, "Probably not." The reality is that people invest energy into relationships with people because of conditional benefits. Sure, a deeper connection can form, but if you're attractive, you realize…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 09:49 PM
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As men insist they care about their partner's promiscuity, and women convince themselves that no guys actually care... Dormammu, I've come to bargain.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 09:12 PM
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Heard of the phrase, "Ignorance is bliss"? That's why you aren't getting asked. Not because the guys don't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 09:08 PM
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I'm sorry, wench. I can't hear you from atop my throne.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 08:27 PM
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They're not being truthful. Women generally say this kind of stuff to 'showoff' how desirable they are. It's a "how can I show that other people are into me without directly coming off as arrogant" kind of thing. It's a form of impression management, specifically self-presentation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 07:12 PM
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He probably read the jolly rancher story.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:10 PM
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What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:57 PM
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Damn, when you say it like that.... u/nessaea-blue u/And_Rue u/And_Rue
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:53 PM
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u/And_Rue u/And_Rue u/And_Rue
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:50 PM
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Aw. You shouldn't have. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:45 PM
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Shhhh, smarties not allowed
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:38 PM
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What PPD user do you, personally, dislike the most? (Top 3 if you're feeling generous)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:35 PM
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My right hand would be perfectly willing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:30 PM
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A couple of years ago at a house party, I was sitting on the couch with a friend of mine. I'm leaning back, and a random girl I had never seen before comes up to me and stutters over her words. She ends up squeezing out a "I think... you're really cute", but before I can even say thanks, she runs away. My buddy and I look at each other and squint, both making "what the hell was that" faces. Then we both stand up and start dancing with other girls. Moral of the story, there's always another one. …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:23 PM
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I've never heard of filet mignon pairing well with diet coke.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:05 PM
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Who would be more in his league? The women of PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 09:34 PM
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Key takeaways: Women tend to spread information regarding other women's sexual behaviors (slut-shaming) to harm potential rivals' romantic prospects and friendships, which evidently does have this effect Women tend to be more aggressive in spreading negative information of women they find to be more threatening romantically; this includes those that are actively engaged in mate-poaching (flirting with the women's man), are considered attractive, or are dressed more provocatively. Competitive rep…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 08:19 PM
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From the article: Furthermore, women are more likely than men to value resource acquisition in a long-term romantic partner (Buss, 1989). To the degree that social information can be used to undermine romantic rivals, men may strategically disclose damaging information about one another's financial prospects, particularly if the rival is dominant or athletically skilled. However, because men are more physically aggressive than women (Archer, 2004, 2009), defaming a formidable male rival may inci…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:21 PM
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That was only the first study. Out of 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 07:08 PM
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For all my homies that lift.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 05:40 PM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 05:31 PM
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Weird. It seemed to work for me in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 05:29 PM
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I guess you need a tampon; not a mop.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 04:02 PM
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With one scoop, I pulled exactly the amount of rice needed for my jambalaya: 1 1/4 cups. I know. I know. Ladies. Here's a mop.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 03:57 PM
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Post the quote then. Creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 02:55 PM
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What? I, definitely, have never used the word slut other than to quote the words of others or to describe the concept of "slut-shaming". You're a creep for 1) trawling through my history and then 2) lying about something I did not say. Creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 01:04 PM
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Are you daft? More like she’s frustrated by the hypocrisy/the fact that we literally cannot win with you people. You complain if women put out early, you complain if we want to wait a bit before having sex. Most women don’t hate men, we hate the bullshit that often comes with them. Stop using language that obviously is targeted at me and at portraying men as a monolith, and then say "teehee, this isn't about you, it's about our experiences". I swear the legbeards on this sub. Disgusting children…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:48 AM
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And I agree, most people here have self-serving beliefs, man or woman. But, you're inferring she's talking about men of PPD based upon your own beliefs. Her language, however, suggests she's talking about ALL men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:44 AM
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Again, people like you have no room for nuance. Everything is black and white. You're treating me as part of this monolithic entity known as men, and transferring all your preconceived beliefs that you think men have onto me. If you knew me, you'd realize that I'm actually against pre-marital sex from both men and women. Yes, this includes me not having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:39 AM
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Then, we should aim to not suggest men and/or women are monoliths. "their bullshit" "no winning with men" "most of them hate women" This person seemed to gather up all the different viewpoints she's seen on here and attach them to one image of men in her mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:33 AM
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It sounds like you hate men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:21 AM
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Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones Most people have self-serving morals. If a man genuinely cares about your futures, he would be OK with not having sex with you. If it works out, then your marriage will be all the more likely to be successful and happy. If it doesn't, then both of you avoid the messy emotional entanglements that can harm your future relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:19 AM
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It sounds like you hate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:10 AM
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Agreed. If a man wants to date a prudish woman, he should expect prudish behaviors. The whole "past actions predict future behaviors" cuts both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 11:00 AM
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True, but it's an easy lie to sell. Even without conscious effort, this change would just happen entropically. Human morality will inherently tend towards self-interest without socialization and effort. Regarding promiscuity, without stringent norms (like marriage), social sanctions (like slut shaming), and with limited repercussions (on demand birth control and abortion), a movement in this direction is inevitable. Only through conscious effort (through religious institutions) and actual reperc…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 11:57 PM
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Well that was to be expected, no? Their entire viewpoint hinges on the set of beliefs that 1) female sexuality and liberation is a good thing and should be pursued and 2) relies heavily on the use of sexuality to obtain a partner, and if a person were to not offer sex, it's unlikely for them to be competitive and find someone worthwhile. Compare that to the new viewpoint that says for every new sex partner 1) their future relationships are more likely to fail and for them to be unhappy and 2) th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 11:38 PM
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Yeah, well, getting the shit kicked out of you really changes your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 07:58 PM
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To be fair. Men do this to. In the great words of Mike Tyson: Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 07:28 PM
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Your blood pressure must clock in at 190/120 when you're sleeping.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 06:13 PM
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A relevant concept is the Looking-glass Self. We imagine how we must appear to others in a social situation. We imagine and react to what we feel their judgment of that appearance must be. We develop our sense of self and respond through these perceived judgments of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 04:15 PM
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I too like to treat large swaths of people as a monolith of beliefs, ideas, and values.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 03:40 PM
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You've interpreted my comment through the lens of your own belief system and an image you've placed upon me. I never said people say fathers aren't needed. Actions speak louder than words, and people slaving away 40+ hours a week speaks more truth in how we view the roles of parents in rearing children. Traditionalism that involves a myopically focused career man is in many ways similar to an absent father.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 01:42 PM
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They live viscerally through other men Bahaha. These comments. The word is vicariously. ​ "Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep" How people should view FDS and how FDS should, if their feelings were genuine, view men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 11:42 AM
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Thank god it's Halloween. I can't wait to see how nice everyone on PPD is after finally eating a snickers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 11:23 AM
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What's semi-tradional vs. hardcore traditional? One of the main reasons our society has the issues it does today is because men don't play enough of a role in rearing their children. Men teach taking risks, being responsible, and being respectful. These are equally as valuable as the qualities that women teach, and somehow we've lied to ourselves into believing a father's role isn't necessary. Echoing the discontent of many men here: “We're a generation of men raised by women. I'm wondering if a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 12:57 AM
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This guy actually wants to talk to women? That is definitely not normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 11:53 PM
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Women care a lot more about my looks and height (6'3") so I never have to fix my horrendous personality. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 10:38 PM
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And people wonder why Soros donates to feminism. People are so malleable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 10:35 PM
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I've found that being hot is a cheat code for getting girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 09:30 PM
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Unsurprisingly, divorce also impacts the health and well-being of the children involved. When will we start caring about the latent negative societal effects that our rabid obsession with equality produces?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 09:17 PM
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Did you look at the studies? Hughes and Gallup (2003) "found that promiscuity (measured in number of sexual partners) is a good predictor of infidelity in women, with promiscuity among females accounting for almost twice as much variance in infidelity (r^2 = .45) as it did for males (r^2 = .25)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 07:53 PM
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Haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 07:30 PM
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I want some of your copium. And evidence. Evidence to support this ridiculous claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 07:27 PM
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Haha. Silly Op. Thinking that mere studies can influence the beliefs of people here. Science? PPD redditors drown themselves in cognitive dissonance and get high on copium. Edit: Op you also accidentally put the sentence in the link for hughes and gallup (2003). found that promiscuity (measured in number of sexual partners) is a good predictor of infidelity in women, with promiscuity among females accounting for almost twice as much variance in infidelity (r2 = .45) as it did for males (r2 = .25…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 07:25 PM
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Those damn coomers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 07:25 PM
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It would be more like. I don't read books that I haven't first seen a review for. I don't eat foods that I haven't learned about in some capacity. I don't go to places I haven't been to before unless I've seen the crime statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 06:58 PM
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I could understand covering up after puberty but for fucks sake Don't you think developing cultural habits before the rebellious teenage years would be critical? Do you think it would be easier to convince a 13 year old daughter to start wearing a hijab or to get a 7 year old to continue wearing a hijab after she turns 13.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 06:42 PM
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Bahaha. This guy. My man's not heard that "couples that grow together stay together".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 06:38 PM
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I'm holding out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 06:11 PM
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People who have browsed PPD for a long time, why do you feel the need to torture yourselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 03:57 PM
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And 90% of all PPD comments consist of ideologues trying to prove to themselves that their beliefs actually make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 03:52 PM
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Talk about straw-manning.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 03:49 PM
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Because of power. These women believe men have power financially, whereas these women know they themselves have power sexually. Holding socialistic beliefs allow women to take power from men in the financial arena, while maintaining their own in the sexual arena, giving women greater overall control (in their minds). Anyone who looks at the underlying rationals of these individuals (especially on PPD) can see the supposed "morality" as it truly is, rife with envy and greed.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 03:40 PM
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I agree. Hence, why I used 'fairness' in quotations. I don't mean true fairness. All these soioeconomic and cultural pursuits of equality are motivated by envy and selfishness paraded as fairness. It's a more socially acceptable rationale for an ultimately self-serving purpose. With greater skills in social cue recognition and limited physical prowess, women have always been driven to belie their self-centered motivations with flowery words of virtue, compassion, and empathy to appeal to the bro…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 03:25 PM
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'Fairness' is inherently ingrained to feminine human nature. It's what allowed them and their kids survive off of the more abundant resources of men for million of years until modern society came around. It comes at no surprise that with the 19th amendment, the female vote caused the federal government to experience an explosion in size and power, coupled with generous wealth distribution policies in the name of fairness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 02:48 PM
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This question is funny. Asking delusional people about what they think are the delusions of the other delusional people, as they claim they are not the delusional ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/21 11:42 AM
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Men treat their emotional sanctity the way women treat their sexual sanctity and to give it up before you comfortable ALWAYS makes you feel slightly cheapened. We'll open up, but its only when we want to and how we want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 10:24 PM
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If you only see the value of addressing women's issues, why would a man believe you are capable of helping with his problems in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 07:23 PM
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Tachibana Hinata from Tokyo Revengers. She's a true ride or die.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 06:54 PM
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Anyone a fan of keshi and similar music? Keshi - Drunk (Live Acoustic) 92914 - Okinawa
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 05:13 PM
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I'm late. Because I learned about sex before I hit puberty, I decided to make a purity pledge to myself which I have never broken. I have been dating women in the hopes of finding someone who waited for me as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 05:00 PM
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You can tell from my post history how normal I am. Anyone who posts on PPD has to hate themselves a little.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 04:07 PM
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No. Actual results do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 03:55 PM
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Are you suggesting that incels are solely responsible for the marriage rates falling from nearly 90% in the 1970s to 30% where they sit today? ​ The thing is, we currently have a culture centered around monogamy.Where I live, pretty much everyone is paired up and cohabitating. In the excerpt I had just posted it states: Interestingly, unmarried cohabitation does not reduce crime rates. Thus, only monogamous marriage matters for the purpose of societal outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 03:31 PM
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They can browse PPD with you, as y'all laugh at all the triggered people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 03:00 PM
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You clearly have not read the paper. Work using longitudinal datasets strengthens the case for a causal relationship. These data allow researchers to follow the same individuals over time to see how marriage impacts their behaviour relative to their own pre-marital behaviour. Sampson et al. [34] used longitudinal data that tracked boys once in a Massachusetts reform school from age 17 to 70. Most subjects were married multiple times, which allowed the researchers to compare their likelihood of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 02:00 PM
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Yes. But, if you take time to read the paper, you'll find that the authors show a very strong correlation between marital status (whether a person is married or unmarried in longitudinal and cross-sectional studies) and favorable societal outcomes, such as lower crime rates. Polygamy is explained in this paper to be detrimental because of the high number of unmarried, low-status men that result from it, and the men's associated risky behavior. Reasonably logical individuals would be able to infe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 01:46 PM
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A friend to all is a friend to none.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 01:32 PM
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How so? A strong family unit, which is essential for the proper socialization of future generations and the motivation of male labor, can only be accomplished by proper incentives. By having sexually conservative society with stringent norms, we incentivize men to enter marriages and act as fathers in service of their families and communities. The only deluded ones are people who think sexual promiscuity has no effect on our family structures and male motivation and believe there will be no last…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 11:38 AM
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Please enlighten me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 10:09 AM
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https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rstb.2011.0290 In suppressing intrasexual competition and reducing the size of the pool of unmarried men, normative monogamy reduces crime rates, including rape, murder, assault, robbery and fraud, as well as decreasing personal abuses. EDIT: To combat those who want to immediately reject the study and read only the title/abstract looking specifically for something to discount its relevance, here is an excerpt from the text: Work using longitudinal …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 09:34 AM
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"You keep using that word" "I do not think it means what you think it means"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 09:30 AM
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What? Do you mean people who can't figure out how to make something work after 10+ years might be bad at that thing? I for one am shocked! Shocked, I tell you!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 07:11 PM
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I'd rather be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 07:05 PM
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I dunno. Pretty good targeting for the women. Pretty bad targeting for the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 06:14 PM
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Nah that's like training wheels cold approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 06:13 PM
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I'd rather be very unattractive and have 75 IQ. That way I can fit in more with most of the people here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 06:12 PM
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I'm more of a divine protein shake kind of guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 06:10 PM
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I'd rather have a 10/10 face. Sometimes, I'll get a bad haircut and have trouble looking at myself in the mirror. I can't imagine having to go through that experience with no eventual relief.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:53 PM
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Did you create this post to actually spark debate? Or to get validation/support of your viewpoint?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:40 PM
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I'd say you're both right. From what I'm understanding, you're arguing about physical attractiveness, while he's arguing about social attractiveness relative to cultural values, ie: female independence, 'equal partnerships', male dominance, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 04:05 PM
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Do we really debate? Or do we just have our earmuffs on and talk at eachother?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 03:08 PM
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No, it's not always your fault. But it is always your responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 02:49 PM
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Well, while being wrong, it's centered around some truth. Fetal microchimerism exists, whereby a low level of fetal cells exist in the mother's blood and tissues, supposedly for the purpose of tempering immune response. Thus, technically there are cases in which a man's DNA is absorbed by a woman, so this strange belief is not unlike how the myths of yore came to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 02:36 PM
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And what am I supposed to see, might I ask? I see an interpretive title that reads "half of singles not looking to date" and data that shows 50% of singles saying they are not "looking for a relationship or casual sex." I'm not looking for a job that pays me $500,000 a year, but I would be interested in having a job that pays me $500,000. I don't understand what you are trying to tell me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 02:12 PM
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I'd imagine they would. But this study uses the words "single adults saying they are looking for a relationship or casual sex." There is no indication of "interest", only of priority and intent; I'm confused as how you plucked that out of the ether.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 01:58 PM
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I think it's one of the most common interpretations. Which is rooted in false consensus. And again. That chart suffers the same issue. For some perspective, I would fall under the "not looking for a relationship or casual dates" category; I'm content how I am, don't use dating apps, don't actively search. Having said that, I still talk to attractive women when the situation presents itself, have gone on dates, and I'd rather be in a relationship with a good woman than be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 01:51 PM
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Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep. Makes you wonder why certain individuals are concerned by the ramblings of 'losers'.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 01:35 PM
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I guess it can mean both things - being open to dating (and being ratherpassive about it) and actively searching for someone by puttingyourself our, having a profile in OLDs, asking someone out etc. That is one interpretation. Do you believe that everyone interpreted the question in the same manner as you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 12:32 PM
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That, of course, is your prerogative. Many men understand that, despite the feminine zeitgeist of 'equal dating' or 'bringing the same things to a relationship', a man's relative financial situation is paramount for the success of a relationship. Divorce rate is negatively correlated with male earnings while being positively correlated with female earnings.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 12:24 PM
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I personally call this the "frankensteining" of a partner, ignoring all the bad qualities and amalgamating the best qualities of past partners into a single image of who one wants and deserves to date. Of course, with every partner, the monster in one's mind becomes more and more unrealistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 12:11 PM
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Surveys are notoriously biased, even the way a question is framed influences the response. With regards to the aforementioned study, how do you think the women in question interpreted "actively looking for a partner"? Does this mean searching? Does this include waiting passively for a man, as women typically do in dating? Nonetheless, in the current social climate, I would not believe women to be completely forthright with regards to their singledom. Many women are uncomfortable facing the judge…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 12:05 PM
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Previously, women needed the financial support relationships offered to survive. With generous government programs and affirmative action for women in the workplace, women no longer required male support. However, biological inclinations still predispose women to desire a long-term partnership. But, no longer concerned the dangers of singledom, women are able to hold higher standards with regards to whom they will date. The unfortunate reality of the situation is that a relationship is determine…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 11:48 AM
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And this, kids, is textbook confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 09:19 PM
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And they have no proof of that other than "iN mY ExPerIEnCe" https://www.kaggle.com/jph84562/the-ugly-truth-of-people-decisions-in-speed-dating Females’ stated interest and actual influence of these attributes are all far off, underestimating the power of attractiveness, shared interest, and fun, while thinking and telling people that they want a sincere, intelligent, and ambitious male.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 08:59 PM
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Yes. Why would it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 08:31 PM
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Any time a woman doesn't respect the fact that you are voluntarily giving your love, time, or energy to her, and she is owed nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 07:45 PM
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Otherwise his options are bars/clubs (alcohol, unhealthy) or Tinder anddating apps (depressing, cowardly?) What should men do if not approach(respectfully) the women they like in the daytime? It's not impossible to just do stuff because you want to do them and meet people (possibly women) in the process. Just enjoy yourself. Stuff like volunteering. Joining a run club. Going to the gym. Listening to bands. Taking art classes. Unsurprisingly, these things already select for women that may be more…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 04:53 PM
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How else could she handle the cognitive dissonance? Her identity would implode and her world would shatter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 01:36 PM
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Those damn hooligans trying to take what'll rightfully be my wife's.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 12:57 PM
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Let individuals be happy and live a life on their terms, not for someone else. Bahaha. As if that's predictive of happiness. Let people browse social media all day, watch netflix, have casual sex, eat junk food. After all, living your life on your own terms free from responsibility equates to 'happiness'. Tell me how that works for you in 10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 12:32 PM
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Funnily enough. I've unintentionally never dated a girl on the pill. I've never had any sexual desire towards anyone using it (that I know of so far). I dislike modern contraceptives though, because god knows how they are affecting the girls during their formative years. They've already been shown to alter female perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 03:12 AM
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For biological reasons, social acceptance was essential for women's survival in the past. Additionally, how she was viewed could influence things like mate choice and resource availability. To maintain good social standing, women evolved to be more keenly aware of social situations, as evidenced by their generally higher levels of empathy, and to adjust social perception to their benefit. When women use words like "you sound judgemental/ don't be judgy/etc" they are utilizing verbal aggression t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 02:28 AM
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I don't hookup so clearly not. But I'm not foolish enough to deny I have less control over other men's sexual decisions than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 11:23 PM
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If you want to add something non-productively critical, you should at least make sure you're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 09:24 PM
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Males will always adapt in response to female preferences. That's how mating has worked and will continue to work for virtually every species that has two sexes. Shifting biological-inherited responsibilities in a naive desire to appease your moral propensities is looking for failure. Just google instinctive drift.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 09:21 PM
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Many true, though politically incorrect works, are not respected despite the scientific vigor and general supporting evidence. Unfavorable topics that oppose the politically correct values of equality and freedom have been whitewashed from the scientific community. Male variability hypothesis. IQ distributions amongst races. Data that is irrefutable, but ignored because it is uncomfortable. Unwin is just another unfortunate sufferer in our rabid obsession with the moralistic fallacy. Social acce…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 09:09 PM
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Which could easily be solved by women's actions. Women who desire relationships could refuse to date promiscuous men, and women who desire casual sex could stop trying to get in relationships. We know, however, why we're stuck where we are - women put a lower priority on sexual history than men do, holding other things like looks, status, and financial status in higher regard. - A lot of women who do partake in casual sex do so in hopes of getting into a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 08:05 PM
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Those other forms of "hedonism" you're describing are different from casual sex. For, while they offer pleasure, their primary motivations lie in other places. People do not 'lose' their ability to pursue pleasure or avoid pain when they grow ethically. They build upon it, delay it, or possibly choose to sacrifice it entirely. When someone creates music, do you think it's pleasurable for the entire time? Or is that pleasure delayed, coming to fruition after the accomplishment of completion? Was …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 07:51 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong. It seems you value sex in the way it connects you to another person; you cherish your apparent vulnerability and only have sex with those who you feel are close to you. On the other hand, you've pointed out that people who pursue casual sex do so mostly out of an "animalistic", almost instinctual reason, for pleasure. Other reasons, though these come second, are a desire for some semblance of deeper connection/acceptance either within the a larger social group or from th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 04:37 PM
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Oh. So you yourself find 'casual sex' undesirable. Could you elaborate on why you believe that? And thanks for the list. The main question I have for you is do you think insecurity ever plays a role in people having casual sex? Amongst men, do you think they oftentimes do it to prove their manliness? Amongst women, do you think they may do it in an attempt to feel accepted or attractive? Do you think people sometimes have casual sex in an attempt to segue into a relationship? Do you feel that so…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 03:29 PM
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All very true. It mostly comes down to whether the man is attempting to understand the novel culture in its entirety, scars and all. Regardless, the idea of coming back to your country is baffling to me. If the current cultural values create problems in your romantic relationship, than more than likely, they are affecting how virtually everyone treats you and will treat your partner. Translocating a wife is like putting a bandaid on a bullet hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 03:12 PM
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Riddle me this. What are the benefits of casual sex? Why do the people who 'value' casual sex do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 02:24 PM
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I haven't found many men interested in casual sex criticizing promiscuous women. Instead, men who are seeking a long-term relationship are more likely to criticize, selecting against promiscuous women. Many men understand the extra labors associated with long-term relationships, the emotional, social, financial, and temporal burdens. Its difficult, in their minds, to justify the extra effort given how little effort was required for previous men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 01:16 PM
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What makes you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 12:58 PM
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I can respect someone who holds themselves to the standard that they espouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 12:55 PM
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You're only limited by your pre-conceptions and what you're socialized to believe. Yes, many modern women do care about your perceived status, regardless of income. For instance, getting a master's degree can increase the number of right-swipes you receive by 90%. It's a crazy world we live in. However, from a rational perspective, the emphasis on status makes sense to a degree, as status can result in the creation of more income in the future and is more indicative of 'ambition', whatever that …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 12:42 PM
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Disgust is an emotion that evolved to protect us from diseases. Moldy bread. Disgusting. Feces. Disgusting. Throw up. Disgusting. Mildew. Disgusting. People who have promiscuous sex are more likely to have STIs and cause cancer. So, those people will, more likely, evoke feelings of disgust, to protect us against the likelihood of disease. Judgement of morality is not required to be associated with the feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 12:01 PM
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I don't know how to "bin" my data? You mean bin the data by removing all "non-helpful" data points so the answer becomes what you want. Ah. I should try that if I ever publish another paper. I'd be just like the sociologists. I might indulge your convoluted approach, but usually people just opt for Occam's razor, instead. Or as most people like to say, "common sense". 1) people that tend to be less strict about on sex outside of relationships, tend to be less strict about sex inside of relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 04:34 AM
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Because I've seen women cry.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 03:06 AM
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Thank you all for your comments. However, my mind was not changed. This was mostly because the contrary comments were determined to say the problem didn't exist, or suggesting that I was an insecure, inexperienced puritan. The latter is probably at least partly true, so I'll give you all that. Overall, I felt gaslit and hurt. So all in all great experience 4.5/5. Would do again. Thank you PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 03:04 AM
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So you posit that caring about a partner's sexual history, in a relationship whose primary differentiating factor from all other human interactions is its sexual nature, is somehow irrational, and associated with insecurity and religious thinking. Interesting. In a sexual relationship, you're not supposed to care about what they've done in the past sexually... right? Just like when getting hired for a new job, they shouldn't care about your working experience. Oh! you've been fired from 30 jobs …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 02:50 AM
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Sure, I can agree to that. Reasonable assessment. I have no problem holding men to the same standard. The issue I have is how we instead try to remove the standard entirely. However, I would say you're mostly an outlier as I would think most people with a pone to pick would actually be those affected by the double standard, but then again, I wouldn't really know. My own experiences have, of course, been more limited to women I've rejected on that basis, which tend to not care about whether their…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 02:20 AM
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I don't know why you people are so inclined to disparage my character and my dating life instead doing what the post asks. CMV. You goddam judgemental weirdos.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 02:10 AM
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Oh. That was just a joke, reductio ad absurdum esc., because I didn't know how to respond to a blanket statement about what women want to date, one that was clearly based on your own experiences and differed so greatly from my own personal experiences. I'm just confused as to how both of you managed to learn about women's conversations about their sexual past to such an extent that you're convinced that sexual past does not matter to women and that women choose to date men who don't care about s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 02:02 AM
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Of course. Those women want someone who will hold her hand the next time a hockey team runs a train on her. Go pat her head. Tell her she's doing great.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 01:34 AM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 01:13 AM
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Fuck. I knew I should've opted in for health insurance. Maybe then I could also get the therapy sessions I need, according to PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 01:09 AM
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I hope it's bamboo so you can guzzle it down.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 01:01 AM
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Consequence: N. something that happens as a result of a particular action or set of conditions Thus, every action has consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 12:56 AM
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Aside from the fact that I can't just offhand accept your remark of anecdotal evidence; lack of visibility of an issue does not mean the issue isn't impactful. I'd wager that most men, if concerned about a woman's past, would not reference that as a cause for a breakup. They'd make up a more palatable excuse. For obvious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 12:54 AM
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We need to be like the diamond industry. Start shaming coomers. Make male sex more scarce. Drive up the value of male sex. Male virginity should be prized. Who's with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 10:43 PM
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Exactly. That's why I'm saving myself until marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 10:39 PM
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Ah the ol' no true scotsman. A classic!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 10:25 PM
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If you look up studies on cooperation, you find that male-male interactions are the most cooperative, followed by mixed gender interactions, and then female-female interactions. Male cooperativeness tends to increase more overtime when compared to women, but female cooperativeness increases as groups get larger. It's interesting that we view women as the more social gender, but evolutionarily, male-male cooperativeness was essential and therefore selected for. When men joined arms with their fel…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 09:45 PM
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Are you sure you're in the right place? Welcome to PPD. Where gender roles are made up and sex doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 09:18 PM
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A man in a happy, fulfilling relationship isn't going to come on reddit and care about the kind of men women are picking. That being said women are obviously picking wrong. I mean, some girls actually want to date me. They're clearly deranged...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 08:40 PM
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You are absolutely right. I guess I assumed incorrectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 01:59 PM
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And? What is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 01:57 PM
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I think it's more along the lines of, "I'm an 18 year old child that has to make an important decision about my life without any life experiences." I don't seriously believe that most 18 year olds are looking at the cost/benefits of their potentially life-altering decision. They think "oh I like this" and so the story goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 01:24 PM
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That's not just reddit, that's society in general. Women care about women. And most men care about women (so they can get laid). Women don't care about men. Men don't care about men. *Shrug* It's something you have to come to terms with as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 01:20 PM
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"The lady doth protest too much, methinks" Personally, I find it funny that you feel the need to cry out in protest when someone accuses you of casual sex, as if it's affront to your character. Surely someone who finds casual sex to be no concern wouldn't be so taken aback when they themselves are accused of such behavior, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 01:14 PM
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Women, more than men, have been shown to conform more to the group when their likeability is on the line. This, obviously, has a biological component, as women need the support of the group to survive. Thus, if you talk to women about concepts that would come to influence their social standing, they are more apt to say something politically correct and appeal to the majority. I'm not sure if this reflects their true ideas, but I'd wager it does. Psychologically, simply saying something tends to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 01:03 PM
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No. Correlation does not imply causation. Many women's sexual desire plummets after kids. You could similarly make the claim that women are incentivizing men to cheat after having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 12:57 PM
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Reject her. I've got better things to do in my life. And that's just cruel dude. Give her false connection, false hope, jeez. Brutal. Very Machiavellian of your thinking though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 12:52 PM
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I prefer monogamy on an ethical level. Although I subscribe to many of the ideas of the redpill, the thing that separates humans from animals is our ability to form conscious thought and reflect on our actions. While you could see polygamy and having multiple wives as a benefit for biological purposes, how do you rationalize pursuing something in the name of insecurity (proving that you're a real man) or out of pleasure (sex is fun! sex is enjoyable)? How does it actually benefit you, realistica…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 12:46 PM
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Why does that matter? Humans as a species have far more female ancestors than male ancestors. There was even a time in human history where 1 man reproduced for every 17 women. Humankind, and any other species for that matter, is no stranger to intrasexual competition, primarily around the male gender, leading to an abundance of virginal men. I guess you could argue that men that feel unable to compete or aren't required to provide for a women and their family, are unmotivated to be creative, mai…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 01:27 PM
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That's fair. It does depend on what you want out of the relationship, and your dating prospects. Sometimes we have to be realistic with our desires. Just make sure you're always working on becoming the best person you can be, and don't spend too much time on reddit :) Learning is important, but it's more important to experience the ideas you're learning about in practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 09:03 PM
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There only exists two reasons to have sex outside of a loving relationship where you would be ok with having a kid. Experience pleasure. Fix insecurities. If we use Kohlberg's theory of moral development, those who engage in sex for these purposes do so out a pre-conventional moral stance: the pursuit of pleasure or the removal of pain. Anyone who is actually rationalizing their choices and is a confident, well-functioning human, would never be able to justify having sex outside of the situation…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 08:35 PM
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Ultimately, the causes are two-fold. Biological - This jealousy you feel (I personally feel disgust and contempt), is your monkey brain protecting you. Emotional responses are reactions that evolved early in our history to force an individual to act in a certain way to improve the odds of survival of their genes. The feeling experienced when learning about a woman's past is a response to protect the man from the much larger chance of experiencing infidelity and wasting resources on a child that …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 08:14 PM
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If there was a simple factor that increased the chance you get divorced by at least 20% and doubled the chance your partner cheats on you, would that be an important factor to consider in a long term relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 07:34 PM
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What rational do you have for saying that it's not innate or disgust? Innate emotional responses evolved to have us humans beneficially react to situations in the quickest manner possible. For example, when many people look over a cliff's edge, they feel fear, because the chance of dying from falling is higher. And it causes them to move away. If there was a factor that significantly harmed your ability to reproduce due to increasing the likelihood of the relationship failing, infidelity, and cu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 06:58 PM
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Re-framing the aversion that many male feel as 'retroactive jealousy' is a way that specific women attempt to modify social perception concerning a biologically inherent phenomenon (with irrefutable outcomes supported in peer-reviewed literature) such that they can improve their own potential romantic options. Other shaming tactics are widely used to influence social opinion of 'promiscuous' women as well by castigating the character, values, and/or masculinity of those they would like to date. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 06:48 PM
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If there was a single factor that would increase the risk of the LTR failing from 5-10% to 17-35%, would that be important to consider if you want an LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 06:31 PM
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Yes, everyone benefits from learning about ideologies that they might not necessarily subscribe to or communities they not be a part of. People nowadays often times want to be coddled and avoid the painful truths and possible cognitive dissonance so they stick to echo chambers. Whether or not you begin subscribing is unimportant, but learning the reasoning, values, and beliefs can offer a different perspective and expand your worldview. The ability to entertain potentially harmful, hostile, or o…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 07:11 PM
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