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More to the point men are also used to non friendly shit talking. Its the same issue as sexual harassment. Previously men didn't view anything as harassment because all attention is good attention right ? Now that attitudes are changing so are men's perception of harassment. Being fronted by heroes that dare to speak out about it. As to why people online focus on harassing women (and they do). Is because people online who are bullies are looking for something to pick on. I've had people tell me …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/24 08:38 PM
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As a Norwegian. Honestly I feel like things are lightyears beyond the US who most see as regressive, both on men's and women's rights. Well human rights to be fair. The major issues I see in Norway is a very unfortunate tendency for pundits and activists to adopt US divisive slogans, catchphrases and retarded concepts that do more harm than good. We have historically always looked up to the US which is coming back to bite us in the ass, because although the US has many amazing qualities it also …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/23 08:45 AM
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The trust part also seems weird to me, because it implies bias. Verify is enough. This shit all started because the police didn't do their damn job in verifying rape accusations. That in usual American fashion grew out or all proportion to believe all women. The law should neither believe nor trust, it should be blind and thus require verification of everything. Victim status offender status everything needs to be investigated. The believe or trust all women mentality led to police being accused…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/23 06:05 PM
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I'm not as familiar with that sub as it seems you are, so if that was meant to be sarcasm, it's lost on me :) If it was, then I should probably point out that this is meant to be a support sub, and sarcasm is just whiny detraction and rather unconstructive :)
/r/MenSupportMen06/04/23 07:09 PM
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I feel for you I know that horrible feeling of not being able to let go of the feeling that I owe the other person something more, when I've already given them the last inch of my own happiness. Sunk cost fallacy is as inherent in relationships as it is business. I've had my run in a relationship very much like the one you described. The most annoying thing afterwards was that I grew up with a sociopath and thought I could recognise such people a mile away. I would never be the kind of fool to f…
/r/MenSupportMen06/04/23 06:45 PM
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You can NOT give this person closure. What she is doing is the equivalent of bad cop/good cop trying to inflict emotional Stockholm syndrome. You do not need to explain yourself, and her demanding an explanation is the only sign you need that this person does not have your interests at heart, only her own. As much as I hate gendered expressions the one that comes to mind is 'man up' get a hold off yourself. Start thinking about taking care of yourself first and foremost, and admit to yourself th…
/r/MenSupportMen06/04/23 02:08 PM
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Taking the piss can be a thing done out of endearment so I can understand the confusion. As another poster said it comes down to boundaries. I like to take the piss and have a pretty sardonic/sarcastic personality, My litmus test for myself and others is if someone takes the piss out of me, and I return the favour (being very careful to match their tone) and they get angry, I know they are garbage person. If on the other hand they laugh and enjoy the ribbing back, then I know I have a good frien…
/r/MenSupportMen20/03/23 06:12 PM
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I'm a guy and I can say I've never been afraid of women walking home. What I have been afraid of is getting the shit kicked out of me or worse, by other guys, because as a guy the statistical chance of that happening is vastly larger than for a women to be either assaulted or raped. Said this in a womens forum once and the replies that were unchallenged by anyone was that well that's ok because it's other men doing it. Well that just about sums up feminism for me. It's not for males, it doesn't …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/03/23 12:00 PM
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If you were black and she hated all black people would you have made excuses for this long ?
/r/MenSupportMen11/03/23 11:31 AM
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You make several references to considering having some responsibility for her actions through some behaviour of yours. Although a very normal thought to have, everyone wants to believe they had some control over the situation, even if control means blame You need to reconcile with the reality which is that you were a helpless victim of something you could Never have helped cause. Your mother's actions has Nothing to do with you, and Everything to do with her.
/r/MenSupportMen18/02/23 08:45 AM
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Saw a 'friend' post about a guy she says raped two of her friends yesterday, warning everyone. Immediately after the post a bunch of internet detectives dig up the fact that both her friends is the same person. Now I don't know if there is truth to what they are saying or not. But in my country the laws regarding personal protection against slander are very strong, it's not even allowed to reveal the identity of people accused of crimes until proven guilty, unless their names are already in the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/23 08:26 AM
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No problem, I totally get your frustration, everything on society tells us our families are meant to be our pillars of support. It's devastating for people to find out they can be also be wrecking machines. Hope it works out, in some way.
/r/MenSupportMen19/01/23 05:19 PM
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" I’m not sure how you get to the conclusion that it’s somehow a regular thing for me to respond to anger by throwing “things" It didn't. I said IF. I asked if it was the case. The rest of your post seems to be a justification of your response, which trust me isn't needed, I wasn't judging you morally, I was trying to point out that if your sister/family behaves like this, then your only self defense is to learn stoic control of your emotions. I get that this is hard, my family is split between …
/r/MenSupportMen18/01/23 11:35 PM
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Very easy to get out of, when you know how and are not shocked at being attacked by a family member. It's like saying a nuclear reactor is very easy to maintain. Yes it is when you're a nuclear technician. Not helpful. @Op From everything you're telling me large parts of your family sounds toxic as hell, by how fast they are condemning you. That said. Your own actions also condemns you, if you want to get ahead in life focus on controlling your responses to anger, if being yelled at causes you t…
/r/MenSupportMen18/01/23 11:25 AM
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The comparison is going to sound offensive to you perhaps, so keep in mind my view is much based on my own preferences. I've also lived in the UK and I found similarities in culture between US/UK on customer service. In both countries I would generally find people would be what I consider drilled to be pleasant. By that I mean I often felt like the person behind the counter had been given a script, and been reviewed by the manager on how to be pleasant over and over to the point where everything…
/r/MenSupportMen06/12/22 02:40 PM
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Yeah I get your point, it's worth mentioning I'm Norwegian and we have a very different codex for what is appropriate behaviour. When visiting the US I couldn't believe how overly pleasant staff could be in one second and then incredibly(to me) rude the next. I think the acceptance for that kind of behaviour is largely cultural.
/r/MenSupportMen06/12/22 02:04 PM
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I don't think store clerks making judgements on how long to help someone based upon how much they think they will spend is a winning strategy for good customer management. Someone has to wait a bit extra they're likely to wait, piss someone off by making them feel overlooked they're likely to never look back, and tell everyone they know including on the internet his terrible your store is. OP should give name of store so we know to avoid it tbh
/r/MenSupportMen06/12/22 01:21 PM
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Going by nothing except what you wrote, so take what I write with a good dose of salt. You write that he said you're a lost case, is it perhaps the case that you have been struggling for a while ? Having a friend that struggles can be extremely taxing. If so It might be self preservation that caused him to take a step back. It's a sad reality that the 'depressed' end up loosing the connections they need the most because they are hard to be friends with. Especially because depression/struggling o…
/r/MenSupportMen24/11/22 10:16 PM
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If he has it recorded he can threaten to do a Johnny Depp if she even considers fabricating lies to their circle.
/r/MenSupportMen27/10/22 06:34 AM
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Dude, go to work, hold your head high. You misread a situation, where it seems she led you on to misread it. She might have been into it, but became nervous because you were nervous too, in my experience girls/boys at that age don't always understand the difference between other people's feelings infecting their own, and their own feelings. In either case you made a move, regardless of outcome that's something to be proud off it's a damn scary thing. Don't do the comparison thing it's just stupi…
/r/MenSupportMen18/09/22 07:03 AM
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To be fair. For the vast majority of history that charge has been true. Rape has been weaponized, as a reward for soldier, as a way to subjugate enemy population and as a release mechanism for soldiers to feel a measure of retaking control of their identity from oppressors as with the Russians who entered Germany after seeing their families mass raped and murdered by the Wehrmacht. That said levying the charge against the slaves and their descendants was certainly partially motivated by a desire…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/22 09:53 AM
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It's the never ending fight for control of the thorny crow of victimhood. Owning and controlling victim hood is one of the strongest power suppression techniques available in our society today.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/08/22 12:32 PM
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The comments final statement about abortion irked me a little, because it's not supported by anything else than more than the same group think of men are bad. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/06/17/a-closer-look-at-republicans-who-favor-legal-abortion-and-democrats-who-oppose-it/ It's not so far different, but it is a majority of women who are against legal abortion. White, middle age and Christian ladies dominate abortion opponents. Which makes sense in my mind, men can't prevent preg…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/22 03:17 PM
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The shift from class to gender as the battle ground for human rights has the wealthiest laughing all the way to the bank.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/22 06:05 AM
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This so much. It hurts both sides.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/22 07:07 PM
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Wow. You might think that that answer is a loss, its a win, a small win but a win, and that's how things change. We all dream off revolutions but lasting positive change is small steps like them feeling the need to reply to your complaint. Not so many years they would have been entirely too happy fobbing you off as another sexist man.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/22 10:08 PM
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No it is absolutely not, that's as false as equivalence as I've ever seen. If you made a gun with a barrel at both ends, so firing at someone also shot a bullet into your own face, then it would be a true equivalence to MAD.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/22 12:02 PM
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If the roles where reversed women would never ln a million years be expected to come support rallies organised by men shouting " fuck women, they're all cunts, silence them!!" I certainly wouldn't expect them to meet up for MRA marches if they got abused like that, and i dont think anyone in their right mind would. The double standard you're trying to sell is beyond the pale, but I get it. An eye for an eye makes everyone blind right? Well if women want my support, make an organisation that hold…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/22 07:26 PM
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Our Christian party tried to change our abortion laws a few years back, to make it impossible for women to have abortion in second trimester. I thought that's not ok, I will march for this(first time in my life I marched for anything) The march was organised by our largest feminist organisation. The first hint I got of what was coming was when one of the speakers a female politician from the left party couldn't come because she was ill, and the male leader of her party offered to step in. The fe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/06/22 12:18 PM
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It affects economic systems and society in radical ways so it is definitely about these things. The law is filled with weird decisions that ended up shaping law, because everyone saw the need the law.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/22 05:38 PM
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The article talks about a clerical error because it's clickable, I'm talking about the fact that if that had been what he was charged with, the information would have gone public regardless, and the same sentence passed in the court of public opinion. There are plenty of stories of people whose lives were ruined, because although found innocent, the court of public opinion already sentenced them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/06/22 05:49 AM
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There is absolutely a reason to believe that it would be better. The simple reason that the defendant isn't sitting there knowing that his life is over no matter if he is proven innocent or not. As this article highlights The court of public opinion can have a far harsher sentence than the criminal court. You do realize if the person is found guilty the case can be opened up to the media, it's only in the event that the person is found not guilty that the media has no business knowing their iden…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/06/22 05:35 AM
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Yes so this was a clerical error which makes it a clickable headline, but this is the UK where they publish the identity of everyone that are charged, so while this story seems like a unique tragedy, fact is innocent people are judged and sentenced in the court of public opinion every day, and this is nothing new.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/06/22 05:30 AM
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Making people innocent until proven guilty is not closing down the system, many countries with far better justice system than the UK or US already has anonymous until proven guilty in place. Think about it, when your identify is released BEFORE your proven guilty it ensures you're judged and sentenced in the court of public opinion BEFORE you're found guilty, this ensures like in this case that the INNOCENT in cases with high stigma end up paying the ultimate price of being complety ostracized. …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/06/22 04:22 AM
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The real sin is a criminal justice system that as standard releases personal information on people who are merely charged with a crime, not convicted.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/22 11:56 PM
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No, it was not implied. You inferred it , and incorrectly so.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/22 09:50 PM
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Who said anything about fair treatment, your making up the rules now to fit your viewpoint.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/22 09:32 PM
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You dont owe your family or friends to even try to save them, because they aren't forcing women to die alongside you. There is an expression called cutting your nose of to spite your face. It seems to fit. Also you don't seem to be responding to my actual original statement, because I suggested that the best draft is one that drafts everyone but that it has to be everyone or only males, you responded suggesting I said something completely different. Furthermore I also stated that the idea that s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/22 08:21 PM
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Snarky sarcasm and incredibly bad faith representation of what I said, all in one sentence. Your comment is really below the pretty mature level I've come to expect in this sub. PS. The intention of the vote button isn't things you disagree with, using it like that is how subs end up being popularity contests, rather than discussion board.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/22 02:55 PM
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This is one of the issues where I feel the fight for equality can not only get a bit silly, but also one where the risk of hostile countries exasperating the issue is the largest. So bit of a backnote I live on a country that has female draft, and what it has done is raised endless logistical issues. Issues like having to have 2 of every hygiene setup, bunks etc etc. Also women on the whole even if trained the same remain weaker than men by a good margin. A battalion is only as strong,quick as i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/06/22 01:00 PM
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Yes things might be changing, which could mean that it's nurture not nature. I would point out the difference in violent behaviour between men and women, and the overwhelming portrayal of male heroes as utilizers of violence to reach their goals, be it avenge their puppy or rescue their family. https://academic.oup.com/epirev/article/36/1/5/564210 This is a very interesting meta study on PTSD differences between male and female soldiers. Males although they will experience more firefights, more …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/06/22 07:20 AM
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It's the difference between male and female mindset coming to play I think. Very generally speaking and by no means a template, but I think generally women who are mistreated defuse by accepting themselves as victims, while males defusing comes from imagining themselves not as victims but as vengeful heroes. Hence a predilection for more violent fantasies, while women's predilection goes towards seeking a victim status, that is denied men because it's countered by societies idea of 'manhood' and…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/22 08:00 AM
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Personally I think using the label egalitarians is better. If MRA's can show that they are in fact able to fight against the injustices both sides receive then extreme feminist won't have a leg to stand on, their injustices will be all the more visible. They know this which is why many of them consciously or not are so desperate to attack MRA's.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/22 05:58 AM
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You might not wanna drop those labels, but the rest of society who are desperate to label everything they don't understand will a do, hence the OP's question
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/22 05:55 AM
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Regarding those texts, he sent them to a friend,not a common friend, just his friend. I find it deeply disturbing that they were brought up in the court case as evidence against him, and that they are now held against him. These are personal messages of someone who is angry, upset,sad trying to gain back some power over his life by joking with a friend. This is a well known coping mechanism. If we are going to judge people as (sexist,racist, whatever) by stupid yet deeply private and personal sh…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/22 08:00 AM
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Depps team did a swell job in getting the trial publisized The most extreme feminist outlets tried to push the view that the televising pushed bias for Johnny Depp because of his fame, but I think that's inherently false. If she actually had evidence, and not just conjecture, and if she hadn't kept getting caught lying so much I think the tide could just as easily have turned against Depp in a bad way. Instead the world was treated to the spectacle of her getting caught in lie after lie and even…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/06/22 08:14 AM
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Not going to give them money by clicking on their shit. Of everyone just ignored them, they would stop they're making money by shocking you with their divisise crap.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/22 12:37 PM
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Frankly I think it's a societal issue, heck look at how we hyper focus on girls and their sexuality in their early teens, the more innocent they look the better. Like Britney spears when she was at her youngest, and starting to find her sexuality the media was all over that, but as soon as she actually became an adult no one wants to read about it anymore, and society moved on to the next early pubescent starlet. Roundabout 2010 a site was started in Norway called 'most delicious' it had minors …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/22 09:51 PM
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Working in kindergarten and seeing little girls of 5 talking about being sexy, and how good they are at shaking ass, had me considering our society hyper sexualised. There is a very interesting graph showing pop culture references to sexuality over time, let's just say it's heavily skewed towards growth over time. And yes it's certainly a harder pill to make than just teaching about netsense, but by golly it's treating the disease rather than the symptoms.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/22 03:02 PM
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The more desperate someone is, the higher the likelihood that they won't see the unlikelihood of the approach. That's the trick of any scam, find the person desperate enough for your brand of scam. We should definitely reach children netiquette, and netsense, but perhaps we need to look at the growing reports of loneliness and feelings of isolation too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/22 12:31 PM
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Actually in some societies your own family members do indeed belong to a separate class, because class was defined by age and gender. In the classic patriarchy the oldest male was indeed a different class than his subjects (his own family) he ruled over their destiny and could enslave them, kill them, or raise them all according to his whims.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/22 11:44 AM
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Perhaps I am formulating my point in a way that causes confusion, but I did NOT intend to state that men always have power, but the exact opposite. I tried to state that class has surpassed gender in the power structure, hence the example from Roman culture where the adult male in a high class family ruled his family, yet his wife would rule over males of a lower class. My point was rather that ruling societies by dividing it into classes giving everyone someone to rule over is the norm, those c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/22 11:17 AM
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I absolutely don't disagree with feminism, but their fixation on patriarchy is not only unhealthy, but as I tried to point out ignores how society works. I do prefer the term egalitarianism though as any ism that focuses on one side of perspective only, will always attract the wrong type. I'm not trying to say that all punching down is through class, but that the class system above denotes who is punching who. So take the Roman system. The free oldest male of a household ruled everyone, he could…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/22 05:43 AM
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The issue for me regarding the term patriarchy is that it takes a known factor which is the power suppression techniques our social structures often employ and narrows its definition down to only looking at gender. It's not about gender it's about power. The separation of power has certainly been along the axis of gender, but even more so around the idea of class. The class structure works best when each level has somewhere to punch down on, and ultimately in the lowest class men has been able t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/22 06:53 PM
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I get that people can say things that are hurtful during an argument, but the few comments you stated your girlfriend saying, cross some serious boundaries. If you're with a toxic person, i wouldn't be surprised if that toxicity bleeds into your perception of interactions in the rest of your life. I don't wanna be the cliche Redditor that always argues for people to leave relationships. But you should seriously consider that perhaps the feelings you have of interactions around you can change if …
/r/MenSupportMen15/04/22 03:43 PM
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It seeks to achieve victimhood. Victimhood has become the biggest power play in society, the only privilege which survived social scrutiny with no guilt attached to it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/22 09:25 PM
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It's definitely a myth that is not backed by official numbers. " 1 in 7 women and 1 in 25 men have been injured by an intimate partner. That's the official statistic. And frankly considering the much higher bar for men to consider something abuse I think the likelihood is that the delta is on that side of the equation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/22 08:17 AM
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Good point, but my point still holds, women make up 50% of the population, and these are the statistics for domestic violence " 1 in 7 women and 1 in 25 men have been injured by an intimate partner. The discussion started with how money is unfairly allocated towards women, considering the amount of male victims.It shouldn't matter what gender someone is when asking for help, but the perception of amount of victims will always matter in how much money is allocated to help each gender. She quoted …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/22 08:16 AM
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I think it's mathematically impossible for men to be responsible for 99% of the cases of abuse and simultaneously be the recipient in a third of cases. That is unless male on male homosexual relationships are absolute horror fests of physical abuse, which I somehow doubt.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/04/22 05:12 AM
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White imperialism is built on the shoulders of giants, most of which weren't white by happenstance of where the first civilisations started. This whole argument couldn't be more American
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/22 06:17 PM
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Yeah this. Whenever someone tries to make male culture about whiteness as though the ancient Sumerians, Assyrians and Zulu for that matter didn't have the exact same Issues.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/04/22 06:12 PM
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In Norway that counts as kidnapping.can you report it to the police ?
/r/MenSupportMen23/11/21 11:43 AM
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As other poster said the breach of trust is the issue, but furthermore as you confronted her, she then tried to turn the blame on her actions on to you. For me this is a deal-breaker in a relationship, that's an abusive quality she displayed that is designed to gas light your experience of reality, allow that and she can do whatever she wants forevermore, and it will still just be your fault.
/r/MenSupportMen02/11/21 01:15 PM
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I've worked in kindergardens with women who said they desperately to hire men, because they said they were better for the children as they are more prone to play with the children and less drama/gossip with coworkers. But the idea that there will never be suspicion is silly, for every hundred people you met a certain number will be sociopaths that will use any means to create division to rule, and for women over men one of the strongest tools they have is the paedophile insinuation. It's much li…
/r/MenSupportMen31/08/21 07:07 AM
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