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GeneralAndyesIdumb/r/MensRights31/03/23 08:17 PM
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"Expectations thrust on them by the patriarchy, stronger, work harder, be "the man" places unrealistic expectations on them. It doesn't allow them to be their own true, individual selves and that ends up hurting everyone." "A good example of how even women can passively reinforce the patriarchy and the mental health crisis men are facing."
/r/MensRights28/05/23 02:13 PM
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u/EricAllonde https://www.tumblr.com/yourlocalfallofthewest/718567827705135104/im-only-for-feminism-if-it-empowers-men-tooand?source=share 48.3K notes "I'm only for feminism if it empowers men too" "the patriarchy needs to be fucking torn down from its foundations. we need to help men unlearn the bullshit expectations that have been put upon them just as much as we need to remove the ridiculous expectations put on women. feminism benefits everyone" '#intersectional feminism" "#misandry" "#like t…
/r/MensRights28/05/23 01:22 PM
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It doesn't, and that's a good choice to make. I don't know. This is kind of irrelevant to the discussion but I really don't see a collection of cells as the same or similar to a full human, even an embryo like a 22 week old. There's a significant difference for me that I guess doesn't exist for you. I try not to be on this sub too often. That wasn't a statement at you by the way, I don't understand them. It's always baffling how people have the cognitive dissonance to be part of one activist gro…
/r/MensRights25/05/23 09:32 AM
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So psychologically unbalanced men run the higher levels of society and psychologically unbalanced women run the lower levels, yet we don't live in a society were the people who hold the higher levels of power are mostly male?
/r/MensRights25/05/23 09:14 AM
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Probably not and it's partly due to the idea that women are less powerful then men so their actions are less harmful. I'm arguing with a man who believes that women harassing boys is less bad then men harassing girls because men are more powerful. People even suggest that it's not assault because male children want to date older women, it's disgusting. According to one statistic 90% of adult rape victims are female and this could partly be due to under reporting by men. 80% of those perpetrators…
/r/MensRights25/05/23 09:08 AM
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“I mean, I lie if I’m really cornered or something. I lie." "On Nov. 21, Carlson privately texted that claims about Dominion were "shockingly reckless," according to the filing. It's "shockingly reckless" to claim Dominion rigged election "[i]f there's no one inside the company willing to talk, or internal Dominion documents or copies of the software showing that they did it" -- "as you know there isn't," he wrote, according to the lawsuit. ON-AIR: Two nights later, on Nov. 23, Carlson told his …
/r/MensRights25/05/23 08:58 AM
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I don't think it's illegal to drink alcohol while pregnant? It's very discouraged though. Maybe it is where you are? And I'm, Idk I'm really just not going to see a blastocyst or a fertilized egg as the same as a child. Like it's this. That's a meatball. If I had to save a 3 yr or 100 blastocysts I'd save the 3yr. And that's an interesting philosophical position, when do we become us? I consider it later in pregnancy when the brain develops bc that's when we're kind of sentient. I don't think a …
/r/MensRights24/05/23 03:48 PM
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Sorry I had a dumb moment and did not finish that quote. At least I live up to my username now, thanks for catching it. "Jane Peyton, an author claims that beer was invented by ancient Mesopotamian women. They were the first to develop, sell, and even drink beer." "It is not exactly known as to who really invented this drink but according to Peyton, women not only created beer but for thousands of years, it was only women who were allowed to operate breweries – nearly 7,000 years ago in Mesopota…
/r/MensRights24/05/23 03:33 PM
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I don't think a blastocyst or an embryo is necessarily a child. Do you feel they're the same? And nothing really came up on google but maybe I didn't look that hard.
/r/MensRights24/05/23 03:11 PM
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It's weird right? Idk either, though she is pretty antisemitic, that gives you points with the right as well. And she wrote a race of elves that wanted to be enslaved... in hindsight that was a little suspicious lol.
/r/MensRights24/05/23 03:00 PM
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Men aren't the problem, it's the idea that patriarchy, a society where men have all the power, is a good thing. And there are men and women who are still spreading that idea.
/r/MensRights24/05/23 02:58 PM
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Absolutely! These 1% of men rule over everyone including men, and since there are more male billionaires then women, this is a patriarchal system, or a system where a few men hold the power. I think taxing the super-rich is one of the most important parts of it, but I think we also have to attack from other angels as well. These guys benefit off of the idea that "men are stronger then women and should prove that by working dangerous jobs... for low pay". They benefit from the false promise that …
/r/MensRights24/05/23 02:57 PM
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That's such an uncommonly nice end to an internet discussion, thanks. You have a nice day too, and thanks for teaching me about the pyramids.
/r/MensRights24/05/23 12:12 PM
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It sounds stupid doesn't it, lol. And ironically arcature that's more "friendly" to women is actually maybe more impactful to men's issues. If it's hostile to women it's probably very hostile to men. Let me explain, there are more male architects then female ones for a variety of reasons. About 70-75% of architects are men. Gender equality in architectures means that there would be a more or less equal number. Women are usually taught to be very cautious at night and taught that they're likely t…
/r/MensRights24/05/23 12:12 PM
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Thanks for being open minded mate. We don't have to agree but it is nice to be able to talk about things. And like here, there's a variety of opinions over there and not all reflect the overall view of the sub. Also if I find a post about how women can be complicit in women's oppression too I'll try and send it to you, it's a big topic in most feminist circles. I think it's quite incorrect to imply that men are the only ones who can be oppressive to women, or that all men inherently are. Like ri…
/r/MensRights24/05/23 11:55 AM
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I don't really know much about the historic value, it sounds interesting. And I agree, and people who seem to want to treat feminists how some feminists have treated them. Basicaly they're advocating to be a toxic civil rights group similar to the one they dislike, and weridly I've seen actul radfem phrases used on here, just switched. They tried to be so different they just ended up having the same stance but inversed.
/r/MensRights24/05/23 11:51 AM
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You asked for accounts of MRA's doing the same things that these feminists did, and you got them. And the feminists groups that I'm part of also widely de-cry hateful actions against men because they're intersectional and men's issues are their issues. I could also say that every actual male attacker gets away scotf free and every Men's Rights Activist wants nothing more then to defame women. But I try not to make wide-spread generalizations about groups and society based on the actions of indiv…
/r/MensRights24/05/23 11:48 AM
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So there isn't anyone who dislikes or hates women for being women? Like no one who thinks that women are inferior?
/r/MensRights24/05/23 11:45 AM
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That might be an assumption, discrimination against men doesn't benefit me because I'm a man. I do think that equity is important, I don't think it's exclusive from equality thought. We want people to have equality in their quality of life, we might have to achieve that using equity. Men and women have different issues, let's address them differently. But let's still address them.
/r/MensRights24/05/23 11:42 AM
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"When Lise Meitner finished school at age 14, she was barred from higher education, as were all girls in Austria. But, inspired by the discoveries of William Röntgen and Henri Becquerel, she was determined to study radioactivity. When she turned 21, women were finally allowed into Austrian universities.""Meitner continued her work in Sweden and after Hahn discovered that uranium atoms were split when bombarded with neutrons, she calculated the energy released in the reaction and named the phenom…
/r/MensRights24/05/23 11:33 AM
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https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/ten-historic-female-scientists-you-should-know-84028788/
/r/MensRights24/05/23 11:31 AM
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That's not true dude. Even some of the things you mentioned were partially made by women, jet engines for example. I don't think we even know who invented the first sail boat. Can you give me some evidence that women didn't invent anything before 50 years ago? Because the things I mentioned, a lot of them were made in the 1800s. You're stating the obvious, but maybe it seemed so obvious that you never checked to see if it was actually true. People do that all the time. Like me with the pyramids.…
/r/MensRights24/05/23 11:31 AM
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It literally is, these people don't care about social change. The main critics of this in the article is a women and a black man who monitoring crimes committed by cops. He's doing something actually useful, actual activists can see through bs like this. But if they city says this was made for women and minorities it lets the criticism fall on women and minorities. Keeping men and women and minorities and white people divided, and fighting each other and not the local gov that is stingy with fun…
/r/MensRights24/05/23 11:28 AM
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They put a tiny lamp on it to make women safe at night. Because that helps- fr though they probably did it to seem woke and so any criticism can be directed at "wokeness" instead of a city that won't spend more money taking care of it's citizens. If you pretend it's women and minorities doing this then people who are rightfully mad about it can go after women and minorities and you can act like a victim.
/r/MensRights24/05/23 11:25 AM
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Hey don't you know that racial minorities vaporize when touched by the sun? That's why us black man wear hoodies-
/r/MensRights24/05/23 11:20 AM
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I did if you want to take a look. And I actually looked this up, I feel like people just assume men built everything and they don't feel the need to fact check it. Always fact check. "Sheila McGuffie later Sheila Anscombe (14 December 1911 - 2007) was an aeronautical engineer, who was part of the team that developed the first jet engine." I'll add on though, car heater, fire escapes- Anna Connelly, wireless transmission- Hedy Lamarr, laser cataract surgery -Patricia Bath a black women, Beer- Jan…
/r/MensRights24/05/23 11:18 AM
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I think I have to tell you something about the spirit of this sub. This wasn't posted here so we could make fun of LA's government.
/r/MensRights24/05/23 11:05 AM
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Come on don't be sexist. This was the best they were allowed to do, the city wouldn't contribute enough funding to make it worthwhile, it's in the article. Also Ada Lovelace was the first computer programmer and in NASA during the space race most computers were black women doing the calculations. Women were part of inventing wifi, gps, Bluetooth, windshield wipers, home security systems, Kevlar, telecommunication devices, cures for malaria, and the power system for the space station. ​ Women inv…
/r/MensRights24/05/23 11:00 AM
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And actually lighting doesn't really help, what does help is increasing foot traffic to an area and more gender equality in architecture. Also apparently men are more likely to be attacked by strangers and women are more likely to be hurt by someone they know, so stay safe out there guys don't get mugged. https://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/news/opinion/better-street-lighting-alone-wont-make-our-cities-safer-for-women ​ "A YouGov survey in 2019 found that almost half of women said they ‘always o…
/r/MensRights24/05/23 10:58 AM
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Woke Capitalism sucks because they co-opt actual social justice movements to sound progressive and then deflect the blame onto human rights movements and off of their crappy products. Intersectional feminists are really critical of shallow "girl boss" marketing because sometimes it doesn't actually do anything except sir rage for feminism. Don't worry when men's liberation goes mainstream they'll do the same thing to us lol
/r/MensRights24/05/23 10:51 AM
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"LADOT has defended La Sombrita, saying more traditional shelter would cost as much as $50,000, and claiming the city's bureaucratic process prevents the building of larger shades that touch the sidewalk.In order to build structures wide enough to actually provide shade, they would need input from other government departments. Instead, La Sombritas are attached to existing structures previously set up by LADOT." ​ And there it is. They're refusing to spend money to make this effective, and used …
/r/MensRights24/05/23 10:49 AM
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You're generalizing women to criticize them generalizing men. I'm also a gay guy and my experience is kind of completely different. Women aren't an ideology dude, there are women who 100% agree without and women who would argue with the first group.
/r/MensRights24/05/23 10:32 AM
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Tucker Carlson is a jerk who harassed people and knowingly manipulated a lot of people, especially like MAGA boomers. He took advantage of old people to make money, glad he's gone.
/r/MensRights24/05/23 10:29 AM
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It's still a system run by men, but only rich men. It's like how white supremacy still screws over poor white people, it just makes them feel better by giving them slightly more then poor black people. If men are fighting women and white people are fighting black people, they can't unite and fight the people at the top who are actually causing our problems. The patriarchy is the average man, and the average women. Some women raise their daughters to believe that they just need to find one of the…
/r/MensRights24/05/23 10:26 AM
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It's like they assume that men don't care about how they look. And they assume that women care too much, some departments have different clothing sizes for women in the same store, and clothing sizes differ from brand to brand. No wonder EDs are a thing
/r/MensRights24/05/23 10:19 AM
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Maybe companies see women as pretty decorations, men as work horses. Both objectified, just in different ways. And also some organizations really underestimate what women can do as well. Also men are socialized to work longer hours because we're taught that our worth comes from our jobs. So let the decorations, sorry women, look pretty out the front while the uggos, sorry men, clean in the back.
/r/MensRights24/05/23 10:17 AM
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I do like where intersectional feminism is going. It's trying to address class struggles too which seem to be hitting men really hard, things like poverty and homelessness. And I do like the push for mental health support for men.
/r/MensRights24/05/23 10:15 AM
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Yup, have of the posts on her are just about owning feminists. It doesn't help men at all.
/r/MensRights24/05/23 10:12 AM
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Really??? Jesus christ, who?
/r/MensRights24/05/23 10:12 AM
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Weirdly the kinds of feminists who attack men, radical feminists, are also going down the alt-right pipeline so. J.K Rowling is a trans exclusionary radical feminist and she hangs out with people who have been quoted talking about a "final solution".
/r/MensRights24/05/23 10:11 AM
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The r/MensLib subbreddit is a feminist subreddit dedicated to helping men and men's issues.
/r/MensRights24/05/23 10:09 AM
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I agree, and you can really pick out the bad apples in the movement too if you know where to look. Intersectional feminists are okay, radical feminists are usually the ones who aren't.
/r/MensRights24/05/23 10:08 AM
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A MRA killed two men to get back at a feminist judge . He also made a lawsuit attacking the" Violence Against Women’s Act". A group that seems to be affiliated with Men's Rights Activism hosted ""discrimination" lawsuits against organizations that have hosted networking events marketed to women, and lawsuits against universities for offering scholarships and affirmative action programs to women. " tw Hannah Clark was mentally, physically and sexually abused by her husband. When she tried get awa…
/r/MensRights24/05/23 10:02 AM
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Thanks for actually commenting on a men's issue here, yeah I think so. In oppressive systems everyone's kept down to a certain extent. White supremacy is partly to keep poor white people hating poor black people so they don't pay attention to rich white people who are underpaying them and using that money on themselves. If you want to keep men and women in their place, you need to keep men hating women and women hating men, and men hating themselves. Misogyny and misandry and both very important…
/r/MensRights24/05/23 09:43 AM
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Do you guys ever feel unsafe bc of what you wear? And I'm not sure how effective that is, I've been told by women that they've been catcalled and stalked when they were 13 yrs in a t shirt and jeans.
/r/MensRights24/05/23 09:40 AM
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Misogyny is hatred towards women, does this mean that there's no one who hates women?
/r/MensRights24/05/23 09:34 AM
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It's still a wage gap because they have lower wages. They have lower wages because if you work more hours you get paid more per hour, especially if you get promoted. So while there is an overall earnings gap, it's partly caused by a wage gap. I am interested in other equity solutions. It's important to know why women aren't being encouraged to go into these dangerous industries but men are. Are we encouraging male disposability, and how can we stop that? It's wrong that one gender is more likely…
/r/MensRights24/05/23 09:31 AM
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Even when they're true? I don't see the point in doing things just to spite them. If it's helpful to us then we should use it. I'm not leaving men in danger just to spite some feminists.
/r/MensRights19/05/23 06:15 AM
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The gap is still real though, women are making less money then men. It's just caused by more then "he paid me less because I'm a women". And frankly the gender pay gap reveals some concerning men's rights issues, like the male death rate being caused by men going into dangerous, and higher paying, jobs. If we make it so women do longer hours then their husbands can potentially work less hours. If we make it so that women aren't made to stay home more with the children, then fathers can bond with…
/r/MensRights19/05/23 05:59 AM
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Is it safe for men that we tend to go into stressful and dangerous jobs? I think that might be why the male death rate is so high. I think we need women in STEM and like, men out of harm's way- Also better unions so men are a bit less likely to die on the job.
/r/MensRights19/05/23 05:56 AM
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That might be partly why lower female dominated industries are paid less actually. Things like child care or teaching young children. Which, I would think not letting children die is a kind of important job that should be paid well but, apparently not- Plus it's also might be partly why some racial minorities make less money and are hired less. Some racist ideas could make employers think they're both not work a high salary and not worth hiring at all. If you think someone is biologically inferi…
/r/MensRights19/05/23 05:53 AM
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I do think there's social pressure to stay home with the kids for women. Moms are seen as the "real" parents so it's seen as worse if they leave the kids to go work and they're judged more harshly. Like I've seen people congratulate dads for babysitting their own kids, like those aren't his children. It's both misandrist and misogynistic at the same time.
/r/MensRights19/05/23 05:52 AM
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It's not a myth but it isn't as caused by outright gender discrimination as one might think. "Also, men tend to devote more time to work, thus acquire more experience as years pass by, and the job market pays more if the worker has more experience. This doesn’t mean that gender discrimination doesn’t exist. Our analysis just shows that, at the aggregate level, most of the gap is not explained by gender discrimination. Regarding the second aspect of the pay gap, societal ideas of gender roles inf…
/r/MensRights19/05/23 05:48 AM
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I mean, maybe it's sexism that's pushing men into this. I think male disposability is absolutely a phenomen, if society stopped seeing women as innocent and in need of protecting and stopped seeing men as expendable, then more women and less men will be in these kind of dangerous industries.
/r/MensRights19/05/23 05:46 AM
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I think that's partly why libfeminists have been pushing for women in STEM. If more women go into science degrees then they can break into male dominated industries and higher paying jobs. There are more factors to consider though, like there is some sexism that discourages women from STEM fields. I don't think it's enough to put women in male dominated filed though, I think we in this community need to get men into female dominated areas. Areas like teaching, child-care, dental assistants and t…
/r/MensRights19/05/23 05:44 AM
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"In this article, we found that one of the main sources of the gender pay gap is the fact that, on average, women and men devote a different number of hours to their jobs, specially after marriage and parenthood." Married women work less then married men, and it says this could be partly due to pregnancy and taking care of children. This article says that women do most of the household tasks. So, do you guys think that if men did equal household tasks, women would work more hours so men could wo…
/r/MensRights19/05/23 05:37 AM
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If I can ask, are there any specific feminist spaces you're talking about? I've been looking for good ones to hang out in and I want to stay away from anything terfy, radfem or misandrist. I've heard radfems say the opposite, that men don't have it nearly as worse as women. I don't really think it's productive to compare people's suffering. Like black people today might have it better then we did a hundred years ago, but it's not not good. Comparing it doesn't really make it better, it just make…
/r/MensRights18/05/23 10:51 AM
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Why do you think that? Do you think sexism or misogyny isn't real?
/r/MensRights18/05/23 09:42 AM
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I mean, I have seen a lot of really horrific things that women have to deal with, but that's because I'm in spaces where they're talking about it. If you're not in women's rights spaces then you won't see it. And I think some radical feminists don't see men's issues as real because they're not in men's liberation spaces. And that said, 60% of the world's population is in Asia and the pacific region, so not really the western world. So even if we agreed that women don't experiences sexism in the …
/r/MensRights18/05/23 03:54 AM
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I think both, sexism is a problem but damn does "monstrosity" go hard-
/r/MensRights18/05/23 03:47 AM
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No worries, thank you for your post, I think it's something we need to talk about.
/r/MensRights18/05/23 03:46 AM
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The handmaids tale was written off of true events after all. And that's not to say that there aren't any women who support women out there but I think it would dangerous to suggest that every women would protect other women. We need to stop seeing genders as a synonym for misogyny or misandry.
/r/MensRights17/05/23 03:34 AM
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I think instead of saying that women being jerks to women isn't misogyny, we should probably start saying that men attacking men can be misandry. We make up most homicide victims, there's no way sexism isn't involved in that.
/r/MensRights17/05/23 03:32 AM
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It's not, people just found out it had plant estrogen and went off lol. Plant estrogen can't really affect humans, at least not as much as the mammal estrogen found in milk could. People just wanted a reason to dunk on vegans lol.
/r/MensRights17/05/23 03:30 AM
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✨Internalized misogyny✨ That's why we have to recognize that misogyny isn't just something men do to women. It's something society does to women. Same with misandry, that can come from men just as easily. So we also can't use women as a synonym for feminist, because your gender doesn't dictate your ideology or beliefs.
/r/MensRights17/05/23 03:29 AM
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Jesus Christ, these people need to get a life. I might be a feminist and we might disagree but you're still a person, that's not okay.
/r/MensRights17/05/23 03:27 AM
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Even medical exemptions are being debated. And in states where those exemptions are allowed, sometimes doctors are convicted anyway. So medical professionals are letting people die out of fear of being convicted. "The problem lies in how to define a medical emergency — and who gets to define it. Before Roe v. Wade, most states allowed for abortion in cases of medical emergency or necessity. Court records indicate, however, that many physicians, nurses and midwives were tried and convicted for pe…
/r/MensRights17/05/23 03:26 AM
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"An adult female human being, an adult who lives and identifies as female though they may have been said to have a different sex at birth". - Cambridge. And personally I think it's someone's whose brain consistently identifies itself as female, even if the person doesn't want to be a woman. There are trans women who really didn't want to be women and so tried conversion therapy. Conversion therapy is now banned in many places as it's ineffective and can cause psychological damage.
/r/MensRights17/05/23 03:21 AM
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I have seen men's rights get looped in with the alt-right pipeline on youtube though. The algorithm sees it as being against feminism and provides more anti-feminist content, mostly made by conservatives who want traditional gender roles for men and women. I have been seeing more of a men's liberation movement in some libfeminist circles, especially in trans-friendly or body positive circles. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/KRDfdfvQRdQ So I think there's some hope.
/r/MensRights17/05/23 03:16 AM
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That aside, banning abortion doesn't really lower the rate, it just kills people who get abortions. So even if you're against abortion, it's not the way to go. I've seen anti-abortion people advocating for better social safety nets that support people who would have aborted for things like financial reasons, and contraceptive so the children aren't convinced in the first place. And even pro-choice people know that abortion can be upsetting for the parent too so it's not like they want to increas…
/r/MensRights17/05/23 03:13 AM
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Yeah I'm trying to change that thinking within my women's rights circles. Basically we need better social safety nets. A lot of abortions are caused by financial insecurity. If government's provided more for their citizens and new moms then maybe they wouldn't feel pressured to abort and could make a decision based on what they want. It might also lessen strain on the adoption system and future crime if these kids are getting what they need to survive. Poverty increases crime rates too. Preventi…
/r/MensRights17/05/23 03:09 AM
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I think the more intersectional we are about this the easier it will be to understand what's going on, because you've made some really good points. And I think this "people of color were never considered a privileged class" is interesting. If you look at Jewish history, antisemetic people consider them "privileged" or financially superior even if this statistically isn't true. And this is leaked into all spaces even liberal ones, that dismiss Jewish suffering because they have "white" privledge,…
/r/MensRights17/05/23 03:04 AM
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Sorry that turned into a rant-
/r/MensRights17/05/23 02:58 AM
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I mean I have seen some feminists promoting being independent. And I've seen them absolutely dragging women who simp for serial killers and criminals, as they should. And feminism is such a huge movement right now that it contains several ideologies that contradict each other. There's white feminism which is more mainstream, then black feminism or womanism. And there's trans inclusive feminism and trans exclusionary radical feminism, which is a subsect of radical feminism which is opposed to lib…
/r/MensRights17/05/23 02:58 AM
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I wouldn't say weaker, maybe less strong on average. But they are statistically more resilient. Idk, I just think that saying women are weaker overall is part of the reason why we dismiss female perpetrators and male victims of abuse, because innocent little women can't possibly hurt anyone. /s I'm not arguing with you, more adding on. Because you're right, physical strength isn't everything, people can hurt each other in different ways. "30.3%, or about 1 in 3 women, have been physically assaul…
/r/MensRights17/05/23 02:46 AM
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Personally I'm trying to learn about activism from the black community, because like you said the issues are similar. Other factors influence crime rates and yet bigots use biology as the reason to oppress these communities further. I recommend Sunn m'Cheaux's channel for this reason. He also talks about child abuse and I think that's really important when it comes to men's socialization as we are pretty abused. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CejGkVy94kE ​ So yeah, also arguing against people w…
/r/MensRights17/05/23 02:39 AM
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Ableism, sexism and police brutality, Jesus Christ. ACAB
/r/MensRights17/05/23 02:19 AM
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Okay that actually makes a lot of sense, thanks for explaining.
/r/MensRights10/04/23 04:16 AM
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Also if I called you Ma'am this whole time, you wouldn't feel misrepresented?
/r/MensRights09/04/23 05:22 AM
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Jesus Christ dude, of course sleeping with a person who's cognitively impaired by alcohol, or unconscious isn't consensual. There's also sexual coercion where someone is pressured into having sex, and that's rape too. https://www.womenshealth.gov/relationships-and-safety/other-types/sexual-coercion#:~:text=Sexual%20coercion%20is%20unwanted%20sexual,%2C%20landlord%2C%20or%20a%20boss. "Acquaintance rape is the most common type of sexual assault. Over 80 % of rapes are acquaintance rapes and more t…
/r/MensRights09/04/23 05:19 AM
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I think I shared that study too actually! Yeah it's really interesting, I think shows that there might be a biological basis for gender dysphoria, the brain isn't recognizing the body because the formed differently to the body. "The brains of transgender women ranged between cisgender men and cisgender women (albeit still closer to cisgender men), and the differences to both cisgender men and to cisgender women were significant (p = 0.016 and p < 0.001, respectively)... These findings add suppor…
/r/MensRights09/04/23 04:57 AM
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I am very uncomfortable rn lol. Have you done a lot of research on gender dysphoria? Symptoms include "distress, anxiety, depression, negative self-image" all that fun stuff. You're kind of setting that off for me dude. And it's not completely on you it's other people as well. I've had it too good for too long lol. I'm glad that you feel comfortable talking with me, but I can't really feel comfortable with you because you don't respect my identity. I get that you don't mean it though. I also jus…
/r/MensRights09/04/23 04:51 AM
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Dads don't cover all men, black men don't cover all men and black dads cover even less men. But fathers are still a specific group within our community with experiences that we don't all share. Are they okay to talk about because they're a bigger group then? Also I'm sorry for being obtuse I actually have a really hard time understanding people through text.
/r/MensRights09/04/23 04:32 AM
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Anyway hopefully we can stop talking about me soon bc it's reminding me of the other parent, lol. Also I am very tempted to tell TERFS that they're trans just to see how it would go over, I definitely have not tried that before- Look anti drag bills can target trans people and gnc people so I guess to lawmakers we're all the same, maybe I can win them over with that lol.
/r/MensRights08/04/23 10:12 PM
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I'll get to the studies in a bit, but the fact you're considering women in suits as trans men is kind of showing how being gnc and trans is conflated by non trans people. Like what do you think of trans men who like wearing dresses and staying at home? I'm not sure how to discuss trans right within the framework of "women should stay in the home" I need a minute to recalibrate lol. Wait so if you think staying at home and raising the babies is the women's job and working is the man's, then does …
/r/MensRights08/04/23 09:47 PM
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Same, I'm sorry you don't deserve to feel like this dude. Are you planning to end your life? Could you message me if things get worse for you? Only if you want to, I just don't want you to be own with this. I still have to make my suicide safety plan, we could make one for you too if you want.
/r/MensRights08/04/23 08:59 PM
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What about feminist men's liberationists who are fighting radical feminists and are also kinda gay? I don't think I'm a monster or a player, and I might be an idiot but I'm not a useful one. I'm not the only one like this btw.
/r/MensRights08/04/23 08:36 PM
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This fits under my definition of censorship "Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information." We're suppressing posts about marginalized men because we need to focus on general men's stories right? I don't think the problem is censorship as such, it's just figuring out would should be censored. Pretty much every subreddit censors it's content so I don't think this is unreasonable. I might be able to post stuff relating to trans men if I follow this more close…
/r/MensRights08/04/23 08:33 PM
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Thanks for sending me these by the way, I was looking for them earlier but I couldn't find them. I was debating a terf who was saying that trans people aren't real and that trans men are just trying to become men because that makes our lives "easier". I believe in feminism, and men's gender equality but I really don't feel comfortable around radical feminists/terfs and Men's rights activists because it's not really a place that's meant for trans people. And you seem like a really nice person too…
/r/MensRights08/04/23 08:27 PM
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Thanks! Have you read this then? Okay so it starts off with "48 cases of transexulism" from a study in "1966". Outdated and not a big enough sample size. They said that "the line between transsexualism and transvestitism drawn by many authors has been and still is all too obscure". So a lot of high detransition rates include "transvestites" or in today's terms gender nonconforming people who "do not have a feeling of belonging to the opposite sex." So the date can be incorrect because it include…
/r/MensRights08/04/23 07:40 PM
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They removed my post for being off-topic, "Agreed that it is off topic.Some trans issues are relevant here, though. When a trans individual is treated poorly because of the male part of their trans status, that is relevant to the subject of this subreddit." If there's no censorship then I'm just feeling attacked rn, lol. Anway, that's what trans men are getting from men's rights and this is what trans men are getting from men's lib. https://www.reddit.com/r/MensLib/comments/127o0tx/this_trans_da…
/r/MensRights08/04/23 06:19 PM
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Did you know that there was a trans institution in 1919 that did hormone therapy and operations? It and it's research was destroyed by the nazis. There are accounts of trans people from thousands of years ago. We've been here a lot longer then 15 years. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-forgotten-history-of-the-worlds-first-trans-clinic/ ​ Also there are a lot of radical feminists who want us all dead and use the fact that there are more documented trans men then women, as "proof" t…
/r/MensRights08/04/23 05:55 PM
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Also a lot libfems or intersectional feminists seem to be supportive of trans people. And radfems or terfs seem really comfortable with silencing us lol. They also have connections with actual nazis, the proud boys recently showed up to a gender critical rally to protect them. And J.K praised Matt Waslh a "theocratic fascist" according to his twitter bio. They're also hanging out with racists so yeah. They're not very woke lol. They're also supporting groups that are anti-feminist, supporting ba…
/r/MensRights08/04/23 05:40 PM
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Okay, so you know how radical feminists spread hate and misinformation about men? They're doing the same thing to transgender people. I encourage you to make your own minds up about us because what you've heard probably isn't true. And I really recommend looking at the actual studies because at this point that's the only thing we can trust. "For instance, in the UK a survey of 3398 attendees of a gender identity clinic found that just sixteen – about 0.47% – experienced transition-related regret…
/r/MensRights08/04/23 05:29 PM
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As a trans men, I was told by mods and several people on here that trans experiences don't belong. That they're too specific and belong in trans spaces. "I think if your question is about trans rights, your should address that to the trans community and let the men's rights community focus on their own shit." https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/127xtdr/are_mens_rights_activists_trans_rights_activists/ We can only talk about being trans when it relates to being male, and that so general …
/r/MensRights08/04/23 05:26 PM
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It's funny but the radfems are saying the exact same thing about people going from female to male. They literally think they're just trying to be men because "men have it easier". Look, here's quotes from the terf J.K. Rowling "The UK has experienced a 4400% increase in girls being referred for transitioning treatment. Autistic girls are hugely overrepresented in their numbers." "if I’d been born 30 years later, I too might have tried to transition. The allure of escaping womanhood would have be…
/r/MensRights08/04/23 05:23 PM
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Thanks, yeah just let people be themselves, it won't hurt us and it can mean a lot to them.
/r/MensRights08/04/23 05:15 PM
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I'd recommend looking into the science behind it if I were you. People keep using "basic biology" as a reason to make fun or trans people but there are actually a lot of explanations if you get into advanced biology.
/r/MensRights08/04/23 05:14 PM
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I'm still a bit confused, I've seen posts talking about the family court sexism, and a subject that concerns fathers. It seems like we're allowed to focus on and empathies with some specific men, like dads, but not with others, like black men. And it can also make it more difficult for your ideology to appeal to other groups if you don't understand their issues and dogwhistles. (For example the term "blacks" sets off alarm bells because it's often used by actual racist groups. It's similar to fe…
/r/MensRights08/04/23 05:09 PM
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And how are those men supposed to talk about it when people don't believe in women's accusations and they believe men even less? I'm not saying that false accusations aren't a problem, I'm just saying that rape is a worse one that men are facing. And it's not realistic to act like the situation is anything else, you have to listen to the facts.
/r/MensRights08/04/23 05:00 PM
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I'm sorry, did you just say that a person will get over being sexually assaulted with a week? People have killed themselves over this. This can cause life-long trauma. And with healthcare bans she might have to carry the perpetrators child for nine months and die in labor. She might even face legal repercussions for speaking out about the abuse if the perp sues her and wins. And again, men are far more likely to be assaulted then falsely accused of it, by painting assault as not a big deal you'r…
/r/MensRights08/04/23 04:58 PM
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Well my sources are referencing the opinions of a lot of people who are all calming that these things are social constructs. Do you have any sources that show why these things aren't social constructs and what things are social constructs? Maybe I'm misinformed. I just don't think we'll get anywhere unless I understand what your definition of a social construct actually is, because I think we're using two different definitions. "It's also possible that the training data didn't contain as many bl…
/r/MensRights08/04/23 04:36 PM
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Yeah absolutely, science is mostly about being wrong until you can find a way to be right. A lot of science is things in the real world being surrounded by social constructs. Some argue that science is a social construct. "Thus, while nature may be an essential arbiter of scientific thought, how nature is explored and interpreted is ultimately decided by a large committee of humans with a complex set of rules and dynamics – fundamentally, a social construct." The examples you used, European and …
/r/MensRights04/04/23 09:21 PM
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Yeah I think we have a long way to go though, unfortunately. Still, and I might have mentioned this but patriarchy systems only came into play like 10,000 years ago. For most of human history, men and women were more chill with each other. Misogyny and misandry is something we invented and it's something we'll destroy, eventually. And it's two sides of the same coin, hurt men hurt women who hurt men. We just need to remember that we're both equal and we both deserve respect. ​ Also your comparis…
/r/MensRights04/04/23 06:02 AM
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I've gone to what I think is the APA's page, this seems quite pro-men to me, like a genuine attempt to fix men's issues, but I'd like your opinion on it. "But something is amiss for men as well. Men commit 90 percent of homicides in the United States and represent 77 percent of homicide victims. They’re the demographic group most at risk of being victimized by violent crime. They are 3.5 times more likely than women to die by suicide, and their life expectancy is 4.9 years shorter than women’s. …
/r/MensRights04/04/23 05:52 AM
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I mean from what I've seen there is a bit of a war going on between feminists. I guess you'd have to be inside the spaces to see it, because I don't know how it looks from the outside. That's also how it looks with MRAs and misogyny from the outside. I do yeah, like I've told my animal rights circles to focus on human rights as well and I'm not the only one saying it. From where I operate, being intersectional makes your movement stronger. The idea is that if you protect other people's rights, t…
/r/MensRights04/04/23 05:47 AM
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I have met the kind of feminists you're talking about. Radfems and terfs, they generally dislike men and don't want to discuss men's issues. In my experiences, you'll have more luck finding sympathetic feminists in womanism (black feminism), lib fem or men's lib. As a feminist myself, I'm going to go deeper into the data on child courts just to make sure I have an accurate view on this, and I'll put the links here for you. Father's like you are important and we should be doing more for them. I a…
/r/MensRights03/04/23 10:37 PM
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I agree, I think we should come up with our own slogan. And I think making it "respect men" might it seem like we're being "All lives matter" about this so I think we should maybe hold off on that until women's rights and men's rights are working together more effectively, or at least until we can communicate with each other. Like even the term "respect women" can frustrate mras, so "respect men" can frustrate some feminists, mostly radical feminists or terfs. (There's a war going on between the…
/r/MensRights03/04/23 04:17 PM
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Yeah, trust me dude I know it's a problem. Look, to me we have to be specific when trying to improve people's rights, so I don't think it's bad to raise awareness about this issue for women. But I don't think it's a problem that we're not raising awareness for men who are harassed. I've been looking at the data for a while, men do commit most of the crimes. But we're also killed at higher rates, and in some cases we have higher rates of childhood trauma. And women are mostly the ones interacting…
/r/MensRights03/04/23 08:01 AM
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Alright well I won't try to change your mind if that's what you think. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to come off as dismissive. It's horrible what you went through mate.
/r/MensRights03/04/23 07:57 AM
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I'm really glad I gte the chance to talk about thus actually, okay so "Today, the mainstream belief among scientists is that race is a social construct without biological meaning." I know, sounds crazy also if you have any studies you want to share please feel free. "In one example that demonstrated genetic differences were not fixed along racial lines, the full genomes of James Watson and Craig Venter, two famous American scientists of European ancestry, were compared to that of a Korean scient…
/r/MensRights03/04/23 02:29 AM
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Yeah I would say so. It really changed how I viewed my place in society as well. I always felt uncomfortable in women's spaces because I was a guy even though I didn't know it. But after I found out I became really self-conscious of being perceived as a threat. And I like started doing things like trying not to walk too close to women on dark streets, stuff like that. Growing up people kept telling me that men were a threat, so when I figured out I was a man I was like, I must be seen as a threa…
/r/MensRights03/04/23 02:17 AM
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Your experience is still real and there could definably be societal factors that explain it. It could be misandry and maybe even classism and other forms of oppression is well. This doesn't line up with the data for everyone, as far as I know, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen to you. I could definitely believe that a family court would be sexist and assume that the mother is automatically a better parent then a father. And I'm really sorry you went through this. We might not agree on every…
/r/MensRights03/04/23 02:10 AM
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Yeah, I just mean "respect their human rights." That's the kind of respect I'm talking about, people don't have to earn their basic rights. This is more used in the context of like people who sexually harass women because they don't respect their human right of being safe. But respecting them based on their gender isn't equality, you're right. In fact saying women are better because they're women is benevolent sexism and it would still be bad. I get that it's confusing though. Maybe "Give women …
/r/MensRights03/04/23 02:06 AM
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Also being a virgin might be seen as a bad thing but that's kind of a stupid cultural thing. Society says that a women is worthless if she has a lot of sex and men are worthless if they don't have any, it's just made up shit designed to keep people all depressed and hating each other. You have so much worth that isn't connected to your romantic life.
/r/MensRights01/04/23 03:07 AM
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I've heard a lot from the "yes all men crowd". "We can't trust any men because we don't know which ones will attack us"
/r/MensRights01/04/23 03:04 AM
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"According to the best data available, a man is 230 times more likely to be raped than to be falsely accused of rape." "Imagine for a second that you believe that every single one of the men prosecuted for rape in England and Wales in 2016-17 was falsely accused.Even if that unlikely scenario were true, there would still have been more adult male victims of rape (8,000) than men prosecuted for those rapes they “didn’t commit” (5,190)." https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-men-are-mo…
/r/MensRights01/04/23 03:02 AM
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Okay, so. We can have evidence of a negative when it comes to what human brains can or cannot do. For example we know that in children the prefrontal cortex is the last thing that develops. The prefrontal cortex is heavily involved in decision making. Therefore, we know that children can't fully conceptualize decisions and the consequences of them which is why they have to wait in order to make potentially dangerous decisions. ​ I don't think that my knowledge of female war generals is very good…
/r/MensRights01/04/23 02:31 AM
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Okay, that makes sense because where I usually hang out it's a bit different. If it's a gay rights group for example, they'll try to make a point out of recognizing the struggles of black gay people, and then they'll recognize something that affects like disabled gay people. The logic is that that makes more groups feel welcome so more people will join the movement and make it more powerful. And it also makes it more effective because then we can address the problems of all our members and get m…
/r/MensRights01/04/23 01:16 AM
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Trans women are the ones saying that, and some non-binary people. Trans men are people who transition from female to male. Welcome to the club, it's confusing lol.
/r/MensRights01/04/23 01:01 AM
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There are some cool things to be said about gender being a social construct, like race or money. It's obviously real and partly based in genetics but yeah, I don't really think I knew what a social construct was until I looked that up. It sounds stupid but it actually makes a lot of sense. Like a lot of the problems that unite men are caused by society, and ideas about what it means to be a men can be socially constructed too. I feel like that if we understand that our society is creating these …
/r/MensRights01/04/23 12:59 AM
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Yeah this actually affected a study, and I can't find it, but basically it said that trans people had a high detransition rate. But the scientists had included a lot of tomboys and feminine men because the scientist thought these people were trans, even though they never claimed to be trans. The fact that these people who weren't trans, never transitioned, was taken as a sign that most people grow out of it and that trans healthcare isn't necessary. So I get what you're saying, and in my experie…
/r/MensRights01/04/23 12:56 AM
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I'm, trans, female to male so yeah, reply or dm me if you have questions.
/r/MensRights01/04/23 12:41 AM
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Non western civilization have had "trans" people or multiple genders for ages. Some would say that our gender binary is cultural imperialism. The lgbt community isn't causing harm, incest is harmful because of the inherent grooming and power imbalence of the relationships. And a variety of other reasons- So I would support something morally neutral, like the existence of trans people, but not something harmful like incest. So do you think there's something immoral about lgbt people or is it most…
/r/MensRights01/04/23 12:40 AM
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Okay cool, sorry I didn't know it was off topic. Would it be cool to ask some more questions about your policies, I think I'm still a bit confused.
/r/MensRights01/04/23 12:36 AM
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So trans men aren't like a subset of the men y'all are worried about? Do you guys focus on general men's issues or do you ever get specific/intersectionaly? Like for example black men are more likely to be shot by police than other men.
/r/MensRights01/04/23 12:35 AM
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I don't think we all do actually? At this point feminism is too big to generalize, we're also fighting each other rn so that's fun.
/r/MensRights31/03/23 08:50 PM
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This is really sexist though dude. I don't think you have any evidence to back up the idea that women's brains can't conventionalize war. And I think that the idea that men are built for war is dangerous because it's used to justify conscription. It's like the idea that women are built to be caregivers, some people use it to argue against child-support for fathers. I think that assigning biological roles for men and women is unhelpful to men and women's liberation. It's also not natural. https:/…
/r/MensRights31/03/23 08:49 PM
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I get what you're saying, but I don't think we need to compare two horrific things to see which on is worse. This isn't helpful to anyone, and it can make sexual assault victims feel like they aren't welcome here, especially men who's trauma is already often ignored.
/r/MensRights31/03/23 08:45 PM
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I can't speak for all of us, but as a feminist, I think it's a human rights violation. And as a men's liberationist, I think we should be doing more to stop it from happening.
/r/MensRights31/03/23 08:43 PM
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Something can be criminal and still be a social problem. Think of the lynching's of black people in 1950s America for example. Femicide and gendered killing are still a problem that we need to address. We can work on men's issues without diminishing women's issues. We're both important.
/r/MensRights31/03/23 08:40 PM
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Is it really a good idea to paint all women as believing the same things? I think it's a bit sexist to imply that women believe one thing and men believe another.
/r/MensRights31/03/23 08:38 PM
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I think that the "mental load" thing a societal thing that would be really difficult to fix on an individual level. So we need to talk about it as a social issue. It's not entirely the fault of these men because they were raised in a society where this is normal, if we point it out it can be easier for people to fix. Even women can perpetuate this by raising girls to expect to do all the housework and raising sons to work only outside of the home. So it's not a "men bad women good" issue, it's a…
/r/MensRights31/03/23 08:36 PM
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So there are two meanings for the word "respect." a feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements. due regard for the feelings, wishes, rights, or traditions of others. You're talking about the first definition I think. Like you said "Both men and women alike have to earn the right to be treated with respect by being kind and respectable and doing good deeds." That's admiration for people's achievements. The term "Respect Women" refer…
/r/MensRights31/03/23 08:29 PM
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Patriarchy definition: "a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it." Okay, so let's see if men's issues and a patriarchy can co-exist. A patriarchy is built on the idea that men are more capable and should control things and women are weaker and should stay at home with the children. "Men are subject to selective service". A patriarchy would see men as more capable, and therefore they should be the ones sent into war and they should make …
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