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| 5 | Men on the whole are objectively worth less to date now than ever I believeYou're acting like young women are any different. Or you actually believe that women somehow have the "privilege" to be that way? I can smell my favourite Jordan Peterson wishful thinking about "competence" aka the world he would like to live in contrary the world we really live in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/26 03:41 PM |
| 3 | The reason why a lot of men are struggling is because they do not want to date at their level. Below average men should date below average women. If you want better be better. Why are you asking another person to lower their standards for you, when you wont lower your standards?Just to make it clear, I finished university in 2012, live in Europe, will turn 40 next year and stopped dating at 35, when I met my current wife. When I was on Tinder, I had a personal experience with women who were born up to 1999 and never been on a date with a younger female. So, you can argue I don’t really know how current 20 yr old women operate, especially in the US (but let’s be real it’s all West and differences are not that big). Having said that, I also frequented high school and the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/26 11:56 PM |
| 3 | The reason why a lot of men are struggling is because they do not want to date at their level. Below average men should date below average women. If you want better be better. Why are you asking another person to lower their standards for you, when you wont lower your standards?I actually agree that the positive discrimination of women and DEI in the current West is BS. But I view this from through the optic of general meritocracy. As for dating market, you think that if individual women in general have less socioeconomic leverage, they will need to pair with more men. So it's basically the first longer paragraph from my previous comment. Even if this technically happens it only means more of the settling woman / betabuxing man scenario. This makes ZERO favours for men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 02:04 PM |
| 10 | The reason why a lot of men are struggling is because they do not want to date at their level. Below average men should date below average women. If you want better be better. Why are you asking another person to lower their standards for you, when you wont lower your standards?Even though I'd probably dispute the numbers, the trend is obvious. But the Genie has been left out from the bottle and there's no going back. I'm always fascinated by men voicing these ideas. Even if you technically "restore patriarchy" (in reality that would mean making a majority of women economically dependent on men) how would you think these relationships of "formerly unwanted and now "wanted" due to new circumstances" men and women would look like? It would not be like in the 1950s becaus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 01:55 PM |
| 1 | Unsuccessful men on the dating regard should just accept it and continue with their livesYes, people are sexual creatures. On the other hand, if a man tries to get sex but it's an ongoing shitshow of humiliation, disappointment and negative feedback, it's probably healthy to quit. These days, men quit too early and that's another problem. But there is a time when a somewhat self-aware person can come to the conclusion he tried enough and simply it wasn't in the cards. Not to mention, it's often a harsh trade-off. I'm pushing 40 and within my broader family there's a guy who's now 37… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 12:41 PM |
| 9 | A lot of liberal women struggle in dating because what they're truly attracted to and what they say they want are usually contradictory."All women reject me but I go for liberal (more like progressive) women because I'm deluded enough to think they will award me for pushing their agenda." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 09:47 PM |
| 6 | A lot of liberal women struggle in dating because what they're truly attracted to and what they say they want are usually contradictory.This weird idea that liberals men arent good looking masculine men is so strange to me There is ton of good-looking liberal men. And then you have progressive physically unattractive soy boy looking men who think women will award them for pushing their agenda. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 09:45 PM |
| 1 | A lot of liberal women struggle in dating because what they're truly attracted to and what they say they want are usually contradictory.Regardless of women being liberal or even progressive, they are attracted to physically attractive men with masculine traits and self-confidence. For 95 % of women, intelligence per se is not attractive. What is attractive is being street smart enough to get money and status. Yes, smart women don't want to spend time with an imbecile but if you think they will be interested about your interpretation of Kant or Nietzsche, you're in for a rude awakening. Very left leaning men are often not good lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 09:43 PM |
| -1 | Women being sexually selective with their own partners makes almost no sense.I don't believe there's one single woman without mental issues who would make a grown up man wait for 6 months if she would be genuinely attracted to him. This is just a classic example of a different set of rules for a different set of players. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 02:11 PM |
| 0 | Women being sexually selective with their own partners makes almost no sense.Why you think it does not make sense? It makes a perfect sense but it all boils to what I've been crucified by both women and blue pilled men for saying here in the past. Despite aaaaaaall the denying, women do settle and have a different approach even to men they have sex with. A woman not giving head to a guy and giving a head to someone before? Unless she had a bad experience and vowed to never do it again (ofc it can happen) it’s just a matter of the other guy being hotter/richer or heck eve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/26 02:04 PM |
| 0 | Just because a woman wants a relationship with you doesn't mean she desires you.These "wall" claims are incorrect. It's mostly a cope for men who are being ignored during their youth. An average non-obese, non-flat out ugly woman in her mid-late 30s will find a gazillion men for casual sex, starting from guys in their late teens up until men in their 50s. She will be struggling like hell to find her dream partner for starting a family but again, as I said in other comments, it's all about the level of settling she's willing to do. If she does not mind an older guy in his 40… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 11:10 AM |
| 2 | Just because a woman wants a relationship with you doesn't mean she desires you.It's not stupid if the man is responsible for acquiring close to 100 % of these assets that are later split 50/50. Some of these women don't even raise kids, so the "but I was working as a mother" are totally arguments are irrelevant. But again, make no mistake, most of these guys saw it coming. As I always say, men should ask themselves the following question: would she swipe on me on Tinder if no money/status was involved? The "answer" is often no, yet they still take that path. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/26 10:48 AM |
| 6 | Just because a woman wants a relationship with you doesn't mean she desires you.Ok, now I get it. You don't dispute that it happens, you dispute it's unfair. Let's just say we agree to disagree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 03:15 PM |
| 1 | Just because a woman wants a relationship with you doesn't mean she desires you.I'm not talking old like literally old but let's say in their late 30s. You don't think there's enough desperate men who will pair with any women who finally blinks their way? Obviously, common sense tells you to avoid going that way. But we are not the most rational creatures around, are we. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 03:03 PM |
| 4 | Just because a woman wants a relationship with you doesn't mean she desires you.I don't know a better term in English (it's my third language just for the record) how to describe a guy losing a 50 % of his property or his biggest real estate. These guys had no prenaps and paid for it. But I don't know, maybe you live in Saudi Arabia, so no divorces around you... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 03:00 PM |
| 7 | Just because a woman wants a relationship with you doesn't mean she desires you.Well, I'm old enough to observe this a lot. I'd say some of my divorce-raped friends, who were more or less betabuxers are probably the saddest examples. But as I said in a different comment, I'm almost 40, so maybe women 15 years younger really are as tough as they claim and it's "all or nothing". But the thing is, because they are 25, you cannot predict how they will act 10 years from now. If you think all relationships are based on a genuine attraction, you're either very young or there's a c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 02:48 PM |
| 1 | Just because a woman wants a relationship with you doesn't mean she desires you.For once, I disagree here. Women also enjoy casual sex for more than an ego boost, once the sex is good. The "asexuality" of women is huge myth pushed in certain circles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 02:42 PM |
| 6 | Just because a woman wants a relationship with you doesn't mean she desires you.Many women cannot get into relationship they desire because we don't (yet) live in an open polygamy. They can only get casual sex from these guys. And once the fertility window shrinks, they often settle down. You see it everywhere and heck even a lot of people reading this comment are a product of these relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 02:39 PM |
| 2 | Just because a woman wants a relationship with you doesn't mean she desires you.Nowadays most of these are gone and I’d argue that’s why so many men are single or complaining they can’t find anyone, most women are not willing to settle and beta buxx a dude, and that’s a good thing. I live in Europe so I cannot speak that much for the US but a lot of women settle. The main difference is those who do it are older compared to women in a similar position the past. But still, most women want to have an offspring despite this extremely annoying and loud social media minority. And… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 02:36 PM |
| 0 | Just because a woman wants a relationship with you doesn't mean she desires you.Not as much as they did 20 or 50 years ago but they do. The thing is, they usually resort to this at an older age compared to the year 2000. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 02:18 PM |
| 5 | Women are emotionally more resilient and self-reliant as single women do not whine, cry, complain, and moan about being lonely nearly as much as single men do.It is a way but even if you can supress a young man's sex-drive without him doing any harm to others, the society desperately needs to stop correlating the capacity of men to get sex with their overall worth on this planet. Because these guys have enough trouble fighting their biological needs and in addition they hear over and over again how the lack of romantic life is caused by some flaw within their character or personality. So their sexual deprivation basically becomes also a personal insul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/26 11:58 AM |
| 1 | Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationshipBut they have mental filters when they see a number on the profile. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/26 09:40 AM |
| 5 | Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationshipUnlike many others, you are realistic enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 03:05 PM |
| 2 | Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationshipI'm also a late guy in his late 30s and back in 2010, women simply needed more than a few swipes to find a non-ugly tall guy for a casual sex which gave more opportunities for others. But I remember solid looking tall guys pulling like crazy and also tall but average at best looking guys pulling way above their league bar height. Women always preferred tall men and it will never change. They don’t have different preferences. They have tools to fulfil these preferences. Not to mention there's a b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 03:03 PM |
| 1 | Getting women to lower their standards will just trap you in a passionless relationshipThey are part of the nature. Women always liked tall men but Tinder gave them a meatgrinder tool set up a literal height filter. Never in history was it as easy for an average looking non-obese (or even slightly obese) woman to get a quick fuck from a non-ugly 6'2 guy like during the Tinder era. Edit: Let's be honest the height requirements are also inflated because of men are lying like hell about their real height. Women think that 5'10 guys are 6', so they put a 6' filter when in reality they… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 02:54 PM |
| 4 | Dating is harder for men in their 30s vs their 20s due to increased market efficiencyIf you're around 35, or more, change of dating environment plays a crucial role. I'm 39 and yes, guys who were not flat-out hook-up material by today's standards got probably more action in their early 20s back in 2009 compared to now. The thing is, with dating apps women had the chance to get a taste of attractive men more than ever before. I know many women in my age, who could fuck an odd guy back when they were 22 but then Tinder came and strictly calibrated their perception how a worthy man… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/26 02:36 PM |
| 6 | Women who choose to remain single are viewed as empowered, men are notMen who bitch on the internet about how unhappy they are being single know that the only way they can get a sniff to a female vagina is through a relationship. So they claim how much they would love to have a GF/wife whatever but women are not interested and therefore they are single and unhappy. I would bet my tennis rackets that a lot of these relationship-wanting men would not be so keen on it, if they would not need a relationship to get intimacy from women. Especially the younger ones in th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 12:14 PM |
| 1 | Women who choose to remain single are viewed as empowered, men are notIt is not singleness but being a NEET troll thats looked down upon. Let's be real, this all comes down to whether a single guy can get any action with women, or he's single and a virgin/incel/not a player or however you want to frame it. It's not a coincidence that most men I knew and would somehow classify as NEET never got any interest from women. A typical female answer would be that women never had interest because they are NEET but honestly some guys became NEET as a result of not being wan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 11:57 AM |
| -2 | Women who choose to remain single are viewed as empowered, men are notThis strongly depends on the context. Most single guys are either players or incels. Only the latter are being ridiculed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/26 11:50 AM |
| 1 | Being her best sexually isn't that important and is unrealisticI'm not disputing that many women probably have problems taking a girthy 8+ inch penises. On the other hand, you have women who have a strong preference for big ones. I think most women prefer somewhat above average but not too big and most experiments and polls confirm that. But how many women prefer a guy with a blatantly small penis? The answer is zero. So, claiming these guys are in the same position as men with huge penises is just silly. Just to clarify, I'm not blaming women for having pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 10:18 PM |
| 3 | Being her best sexually isn't that important and is unrealisticIt may sound a bit weird, as it's a very sensitive topic but since it's totally anonymous, let me tell you a story. One of my friends from the high school has a very small penis. I'd say probably borderline micropenis but honestly I don't know what the criteria are certainly wasn't standing next to him with tape measure lol. But when we were in our teens, he used to joke about it in the male company, even though we never initiated this topic or teased him because he was a good friend and we were… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 12:26 PM |
| 2 | Being her best sexually isn't that important and is unrealisticI would say most women do, unless the sample is super low. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 11:59 AM |
| -2 | Being her best sexually isn't that important and is unrealisticWell, let's be honest, when a woman is deep into double digits it's statistically extremely hard to to be her number one best. Yet you can be "good enough" to be considered as a good asset from sexual point of view. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 11:57 AM |
| 5 | Being her best sexually isn't that important and is unrealisticYou don't have to be the number 1 but when your girlfriend/wife is somewhat sexually experienced (and let's be honest, in this day and age most are) and you are not able to sexually satisfy her with however she defines that, you can expect a lot of problems in your relationship. It also means you are probably mostly valued for your money/financial stability, willingness to share and agreeableness. And while these traits are not negative per se, when they are the biggest factor why a woman is wil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/26 11:35 AM |
| 7 | The idea that most men who struggle in the modern sexual marketplace are socially inept is a blue pill caricatureI think it's more a matter of women subconsciously wanting to always have the moral high ground. They don’t want to be in a situation where their individual decisions will be under scrutiny and they will be told that the by-product of these decisions or the by-product of them being much less dependent on men simply is a collapse of the nuclear family and dangerously declining birth rates. How many women will have kids with men they see as unworthy, just because you keep telling them that if Euro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 03:43 PM |
| 10 | The idea that most men who struggle in the modern sexual marketplace are socially inept is a blue pill caricatureI live in Europe and there is a heated discussion about birth rates. It’s ridiculous, how many people – mostly women but not only – will give you a million and a one arguments, why our nations are dying out. Men not wanting to commit, housing this, job market that – when by far the most important factor is simply a shitload of people in reproductive age living single. And when you point out that there is a direct correlation between female emancipation and women being significantly pickier on th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 03:34 PM |
| 27 | The idea that most men who struggle in the modern sexual marketplace are socially inept is a blue pill caricatureThe problem with being smart is overthinking and being pathologically careful and not confident. When you can somehow suppress this, intelligence becomes a weapon. It's not attractive per se for women but it helps you to navigate the dating market. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 03:19 PM |
| 5 | The idea that most men who struggle in the modern sexual marketplace are socially inept is a blue pill caricatureAs somewhat of a high IQ person I can absolutely relate. I went from being an average looking guy in my teens to looking better in my early to mid-twenties and that was the major factor that opened the door for me. But looking back, it's ridiculous how many opportunities I wasted when I was roughly between 22–25 years old. Because the combination of being not used to experience interest from women in my teens and me overthinking absolutely everything and being too shy so I would not look like a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 03:12 PM |
| 1 | The mockery of "unselected" men is a proxy victory. Women celebrate their loneliness because they are powerless against the elite men who actually exploit them. The target at low hanging fruit to make themselves feel better.I live in Europe and the idiot is destroying transatlantic business that my clients (and therefore me as well) are depenedent on. The world is not only about culture wars you know, we also have to make money in order to spend it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 02:02 PM |
| 5 | The mockery of "unselected" men is a proxy victory. Women celebrate their loneliness because they are powerless against the elite men who actually exploit them. The target at low hanging fruit to make themselves feel better.Ofc zero. But in the meanwhile the damn old idiot is destroying the world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 01:47 PM |
| 1 | The mockery of "unselected" men is a proxy victory. Women celebrate their loneliness because they are powerless against the elite men who actually exploit them. The target at low hanging fruit to make themselves feel better.They are friends because you'll never fuck them, it's not like you never fuck them because they are friends lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 11:13 AM |
| 1 | The mockery of "unselected" men is a proxy victory. Women celebrate their loneliness because they are powerless against the elite men who actually exploit them. The target at low hanging fruit to make themselves feel better.How relevant is that your husband is 6'4? Edit after being downvoted lol: about as much as other female redditors informing us that their son is a Chad or daughter is a Stacy. I mean, yes, some of the stuff men post on these forums is outrageous and also the level of denial and coping that men showcase because they cannot to term with the cruel reality is off charts (women are socially programmed to like this and that type of men, 100 years ago blah blah…). Having said that when their opinions a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 11:10 AM |
| 0 | The mockery of "unselected" men is a proxy victory. Women celebrate their loneliness because they are powerless against the elite men who actually exploit them. The target at low hanging fruit to make themselves feel better.b) Is exactly what makes unselected men vote for people like Trump and gradually hate women. In this day and age you simply cannot say with a straight face that a lack of socialization is the main reason. That's often the byproduct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/26 11:09 AM |
| 3 | The entire strategy men are going for in life is to trade women like pokemon cards.I won't go into the extreme 80/20 or even 90/10 territory but let's say, you have a good 50 % of men, who in 2026 know – because of their experience, empirical data on dating aps, surveys, academic articles etc. – that they have zero attractiveness for women per se. And I think that's a very mild estimate that would be even confirmed by some of the non-gaslighting women on this subreddit. In reality, it's even more. These guys have two basic options on the dating market: give up and stay alone u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/26 01:19 PM |
| 1 | Pursuit of Elite vs Pursuit of ConsensusYou say this like there wasn't a massive cultural movement that influenced women to do this. The cultural shift is the result not the trigger. Women wanted more freedoms and money and less whore shaming. When they got it, they could afford to be much more selective on the dating market. Again, you don't have an accurate picture of history or what I am arguing, apparently. I think I have but we don't need to argue on that. Many people died in childbirth and in youth, bringing the average lifespan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/26 09:08 PM |
| 0 | Pursuit of Elite vs Pursuit of ConsensusThis is where we disagree though. I think women are still greatly affected by cultural norms. You seem to think that in a few decades, women have transcended their mortal form?! There's an obvious contradiction in your point unless you want to argue that the modern world is somehow more "natural" than the previous versions of the world. Most people would probably say the modern world is less natural, so these new influences would only push men and women farther from their "natural" norms. By cul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 03:12 PM |
| 5 | Pursuit of Elite vs Pursuit of Consensus"I'm not denying some aspect of this, but you're giving it too much explanatory power. There's clearly a pretty large range of what is natural, within which other factors are more important." I know you may dismiss this as a one isolated example bet let me tell you. I'm from Europe, mixed origin, mother from Scandinavia, father from Central Europe. I'm 39 and have memory of my grand-grandmother from my father side when she was about 94 and I probably around 6. She talked about my grand-grandfath… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 12:32 PM |
| 7 | Pursuit of Elite vs Pursuit of ConsensusMen are attracted to more women and to a wider set of physical traits on females than vice-versa. It's a genetically determined fact. Women on the other hand have a narrow set of preferences. If you put 100 men and women into one room and make them select 10 most attractive counterparts from the other sex, hardly 20 men overall will get at least one pick. I wouldn't be surprised if the number will be even lower. On the other hand, I can imagine at least 30 women, maybe even more, getting at leas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 10:04 AM |
| 4 | Pursuit of Elite vs Pursuit of ConsensusIn summary, there are a number of compounding factors that contribute to greater challenges facing men in achieving status and approval by mainstream culture. Consensus narratives drive the perception of this status, and women are even more susceptible than men to follow them. Consequently, there has been a decrease in average number of men that the average woman finds attractive. There is a huge misunderstanding from your side. It's not about the number of men achieving status. It's about less … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/26 09:54 AM |
| 36 | The majority of men who seriously struggle dating and finding a partner were bullied in adolescenceIt's hard to extract the sole impact of bullying because boys who get bullied are on average also less physically attractive when they grow up. Looks are probably the most common reason for bullying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/26 10:48 AM |
| -1 | Every western "misandrist" can only safely be one thanks to the infrastructural support of a vast network of men.I think you have just encountered a prime example of a limited cognitive potential right there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 10:51 AM |
| 10 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.But the difference is that a normal person needs to work because he needs money. But a woman does not need a relationship. Especially when in some states women can use a fertility clinic and raise a kid on her own. She gets these high quality genes for her offspring she cannot get in a real life and that's it. The only problem is that she gets no support from the state and needs to have enough money and time at the same time to raise a kid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 10:45 AM |
| 1 | A Women being unchosen is a much bigger failure than men being unchosen.But the problem is that at the same tim women desire only some men. So it's useless when they are desired by someone they find unattractive. So their struggle is to be desired by someone who they find desirable. And you due to sheer math this is a massive problem for women and they rather stay alone. Unlike men, they can almost always outsource just sex from men that they find desirible. But not relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/26 10:41 AM |
| 1 | Women will inevitably change after kids, if you can't understand this just don't have kidsNo i meant there's no source that those 46% of guys consist of only "non worthy" guys lol There can be a small overlap with "worthy" guys but let's be real, attractive (at least to some extent) men – unless they are flat out idiots or socially retarded or have been living in a cave for the last 20 years – usually know they are attractive. And the amount of young (not gay) men who have the potential but for whatever reason don't approach women is extremely small compared to guys who suffered a lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/26 12:32 PM |
| 1 | Women will inevitably change after kids, if you can't understand this just don't have kids"There's nothing which supports it but i get where you're coming from" Empirical data, dating apps stats and real life support this. When women say they want to be approached, the real meaning is approached by men they consider worthy. Let's be real – one of the biggest unsaid motivations for me too was planting the seed of fear into unattractive men when approaching. I don't want to downplay bad behaviour by man that was considered standard for decades and even less cases of an actual rape. But… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/26 11:49 AM |
| 5 | Women will inevitably change after kids, if you can't understand this just don't have kidsThe problem with your "theory" is that there loads of relationships that are perfectly fine even after having kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 03:26 PM |
| 0 | Women will inevitably change after kids, if you can't understand this just don't have kidsMen avoiding women might be more common but it does not change the fact that a massive majority of those who claim to be happy about it and enjoying it are totally lying. The 77 % of women want to be approached more but not by men from that 46 % group. So these groups will be mutually unsatisfied | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 03:18 PM |
| 6 | Women will inevitably change after kids, if you can't understand this just don't have kidsSo you know jack shit lol. "But my friends"..."I know in advance". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 09:55 AM |
| 7 | Women will inevitably change after kids, if you can't understand this just don't have kidsBecause most of them are in the "stunning and brave" cohort that missed their prime (older are biologically past it) to find the best potential father for their offspring so now they have to remind us in every post how super happy and satisfied with their childless life they are. Fooling themselves in the first place. It's like MGTOW reminding us how happy their are in a life with not women involved when in reality they were sent their own not went their own way and they beat their dick to porn … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 09:51 AM |
| -2 | Women will inevitably change after kids, if you can't understand this just don't have kidsIt's definitely not a right but it certainly is a need. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 09:47 AM |
| 2 | Women will inevitably change after kids, if you can't understand this just don't have kidsJust for the record, do you have your own experience? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 09:46 AM |
| 3 | Women aren't attracted to feminist men, they are attracted to hot men!1!The one thing that far right and far left men have in common is that they usually struggle to get any pussy and their political stance is usually a mirror of these problems. Far right guys think they are obsolete because women have too much power and money so they don't need the providers (them) anymore. Far left men think they can sneak into a women's panties by pushing their agenda a then get rewarded for that. A MAGA bigot and a woke weakling will usually will usually be shit with women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/26 12:58 AM |
| 1 | Women aren't attracted to feminist men, they are attracted to hot men!1!Women chase good looking men because they are evolutionary hardwired to do so. Status is just an addition to that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/26 09:37 PM |
| 12 | Women aren't attracted to feminist men, they are attracted to hot men!1!Many of these guys are feminists because they struggle with women and think women will somehow "reward" them for pushing their agenda. Like, I'm no "good 'ole 50s" idiot and have zero problems with women making their money, being independent, picky with men etc. But the truth is, that the more independent and financially successful women are on average, the more obsolete physically unattractive men are as well. They almost never get rewarded but the by-product of their actions is digging their o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/26 03:17 PM |
| 2 | What increases your sense of self-worth outside of romatic/sexual validation?Sport, mountain climbing, improving my foreign language skills, being good at poker and intellectually sound through reading a lot. I make decent money but for me money is just a tool to live a good happy life and feel secure. I don't get any validation through that. If I'd win a lottery, I'd stop working right away I not even try to pretend I'm doing something. Like all these people from filthy rich families, who pretend to be "entrepreneurs", "investors" etc. With women it was more about being… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/26 08:15 PM |
| 1 | If many women say you are a total catch but won’t date you, the harsh truth is that they are lying to you.They mostly are but it has a different meaning when men say that about women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 08:54 PM |
| 12 | If many women say you are a total catch but won’t date you, the harsh truth is that they are lying to you.Which means they are not a catch as a dating/romantic prospect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 01:01 PM |
| 8 | If many women say you are a total catch but won’t date you, the harsh truth is that they are lying to you.Well, it's pretty important if the women who say that are single or not. If you hear that from a one woman who is in a commited relationship, you might be a catch. If you hear it repeatedly from single women who have zero interest in you romantically, you are not a catch. But just a few remarks. When women say men are "cute" it's a politically correct definition for finding someone not repulsive but also not being attracted towards him. And most importantly, men who authentically struggle on the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 01:00 PM |
| 1 | Far too many men cannot see that they have undesirable trait's and behaviors which results in not just nobody wanting to be around them but nobody wanting to date them either and it's an issue which will follow many for their entire life.That's what I wanted to say. 80/20 is valid for casual sex without any further conditions. Top 80 % of women have casual sex only with top 20 % of men. Bottom 80 % of men have to scrape the barrel for the bottom 20 % of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/26 11:32 AM |
| – | After woman's so called 'hoe phase' in the end you are just the option she choose to settle down with right?It depends. When you get the same treatment like guys she hooked-up with without any other conditions, you're fine. When you're forced more or less into the betabuxer role and she does not consider you genuinely hot, you're being settled for. That's why I say the best relationship for a man are those that start as a Tinder hook-up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/26 09:15 AM |
| -1 | A lot of male self-improvement advice is useless because it still keeps women at the centre.1) Because they want one. 2) Because of sex drive. 3) Because a lot of them had zero romantic partners in their life. 4) Because society (even though it's oficially denied) values men based on their potential to attract women. You cannot attract women – you're fuck up, creep or both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 10:59 AM |
| – | men generally have a wider range of preferences than womenOfc it's true. This explains why far less men are considered physically attractive by women than vice versa. When women say they are attracted to men with this and that physical traits or even hobby/job, there's usually the underlying condition of having universally attractive features as attractive face, being tall/tallish, or having a good body frame. When women say they like blond men, they like good looking blond men. When they say they like drummers, they like good looking drummers. When th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/26 03:20 PM |
| 1 | Men have a large access to casual sexSo, you have access to sex you don't want, and we have access to sex we don't want. If we were forced to have sex we didn't want, we'd be upset, and so would you be, and I think saying that you would be more upset because it was gay sex is stupid. It's about the forced part. If you chose to have gay sex, would you be upset? Does that even make sense if you don't want to have gay sex? I don't know if your situation is specific because of the area where you lived, time when you lived or the fact t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/26 12:31 PM |
| 3 | Red Pillers idolize the wrong menI doubt that redpillers idolize Clavicular. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 03:31 PM |
| 1 | Why ranking people 1–10 doesn’t really work.The issue is that if someone can be a 3 to one person and a 7 to another, the number isn’t very stable or predictive. No offence but this is exactly where you have it wrong. Because it is pretty predictive. When you talk about overall package (looks, money/status, education/intelligence, behaviour etc.) you can predict the attractiveness based on the nature of the woman who's rating you. If you're dealing with a wealthy educated woman from the West, looks will be extremely important. For a hook-… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 09:48 AM |
| 1 | Why ranking people 1–10 doesn’t really work.That's why I only mentioned looks. I agree that the weight of this specific criterion is not the same for different groups of people but once you can identify the physical attractiveness, you can somehow predict what type of other leverage (for men usually money/status and willigness to share) someone needs in order to succeed; despite the ratio of criterions being somewhat variable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/26 08:51 AM |
| 18 | Why ranking people 1–10 doesn’t really work.Most women and men are utterly predictable in who they’re attracted to and sleep with lol Especially women because the variety of physical traits they find attractive is pretty narrow. I remember one of my female colleagues called be "gay" many years ago when I claimed that I can tell with each man how attractive for women he is, while I'd struggle to do the same with women even as a straight man. And that's not only because men have lower standards and tolerate more flaws but also because there… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 04:39 PM |
| 4 | Why ranking people 1–10 doesn’t really work.Ranking people 1–10 looks-wise (face, height, body – frame, muscles and body fat) works. The only problem is men believe it's linear (every decile consists of approx. same amount of people) while women rate a guy who is relatively a percentile 70 as a 5/10 and a guy who is a percentile 85 7/10. Men think that a guy who's a percentile 75 is a 7,5/10. That's where all the misunderstanding comes from. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/26 04:31 PM |
| 1 | Do you think women's aversion of helping men in the dating/sexual context is biological or societal?Male attraction is relative. I don't care what your or other female Redditor's gaslighting tries to prove but there is no magic threshold where men are suddenly attractive regardless of the rest. As I said in a different threat, turn half of male population into a 2000 Brad Pitt and a 2000 Edward Norton does not get a sniff. Yes, men should certainly become more attractive. Especially looks-wise, if they have a potential to do so. But as a universal advice it's useless. Every guy improves his at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 12:19 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think women should change anything when they are not the ones complaining about dating?Ok "men can't do much" is a far stretch. But I agree that looks are the gate. I was able to improve in other aspects because I passed the first hurdle. I was also lucky enough that I was only these few traits away from becoming solid looking. I didn't affect that I grew a bit when most guys already stagnate and that my face changed to the better which is not rare btw. I did the work getting more jacked and fixing my skin. You have guys that are starting way below that. When you are 4 or 5 inches… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 12:03 PM |
| 0 | Why do you think women should change anything when they are not the ones complaining about dating?If a woman keeps going for men clearly above her level who only use her short-term, then yes, that mismatch between what she wants and what she can realistically secure long-term is part of the problem. Pointing that out is not saying she can talk herself into desire. It is saying repeated choices still have predictable outcomes. A lot of women, maybe the majority in this day and age are basically condemned to either being in a rotation and wasting their prime time to start a family, settle down… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/26 11:32 AM |
| -9 | Do you think women's aversion of helping men in the dating/sexual context is biological or societal?The hate was probably from guys, who swiped on hundreds or thousands of similar looking girls and got something like 3 matches, 1 response and 0 dates. Many men don't understand how female sexual selection works (or simply cope like hell to deny the reality). On the other hand, this girl probably should have known what the reaction will be. I do understand how women operate but agree that when women don't find the majority of men attractive and then upload all these videos where they lament on h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/26 10:49 AM |
| 2 | Do you think women's aversion of helping men in the dating/sexual context is biological or societal?As I said few comments above, women believe this because of few idiots, who are vocal about this concept of "female purity", yet usually they are the biggest purist in a way they barely touched a woman in their life. Most men are just either attracted/unattracted and this flies under their radar. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/26 10:40 AM |
| -3 | Do you think women's aversion of helping men in the dating/sexual context is biological or societal?You are wrong. If a man considers a woman attractive and finds out she is not being tried out by other guys, he's not repulsed but also there's no "male fantasy" he even prefers her because of that. Don't let yourself carried away by few online clowns who probably never touched a p***y in their lives and have this funny mindset, often stemming from some wannabe religious yet in reality mainly spiteful background. On the other hand, women are very strongly programmed (and to answer OPs question, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/26 10:37 AM |
| – | The RP concept of hypergamy is (a) incoherent pseudo-science and (b) does not line up with actual human behavior or genetics.How does a "non-conventionally attractive" man look like? Since most women (at least in the West) are attracted to very similar physical traits, I don't see the logic. The variety is that some may like dark hair and brown eyes, some may like blond hair and blue eyes but they all their man tall, handsome with a symmetrical structured face, good body frame and low body fat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/26 10:07 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think women should change anything when they are not the ones complaining about dating?Isn't this the optimum dating scenario for women - where only the attractive men exist and women no longer have to interact the with rest of men. I'm confused by why this is trotted out as something women wouldn't want when we know women are happier being alone and then being the side piece of an attractive man. Women will prefer being a hidden mistress than publicly with an ugly man. Some do, some not. Starting a family in a position of a hidden mistress is usually not feasible. Unless the guy … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/26 02:26 PM |
| 2 | Why do you think women should change anything when they are not the ones complaining about dating?As for women and their potential to change, the problem is that they would have use their free will against how they are hardwired to behave. Some men cannot grasp that a 4/10 woman is not being attracted to a 4/10 man and call her out that she is rather in a rotation of a 7/10 guy who uses her for free holes. But women cannot just talk themselves into who they are attracted to. That’s not how nature works. Among humans (mammals), women are pickier than men. Yes, women can consciously form relat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/26 12:41 PM |
| 2 | Why do you think women should change anything when they are not the ones complaining about dating?This is the neverending debate. Can’t do much is not “cannot do anything at all”. Fitness is the only physical trait you have more or less in your hands. Having average height and face and being jacked is sure better than being fat or skinny fat. But it’s only a piece in the puzzle and I’d say it’s probably the least important of the three. Money – sure if you want to be seen primarily as a walking wallet, betabuxer or a stability anchor after she had her fun with better looking guys. Saying to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/26 12:38 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think women should change anything when they are not the ones complaining about dating?What stops you from saying that? What stops millions, more like billions of men on this planet from that? I'll tell you what. The fact that they use their money and the worse financial situation of the women they date as a leverage. They know that if the selection was just a bunch of men standing naked in a room, with no futher info about their income, status, family wealth etc, they would probably get omitted even by average or below average looking women. That's the nature of attraction. So th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/26 11:53 AM |
| – | Men should be taught that they are most likely going to be aloone if they don't improveIf everyone improves, no one improves. A man's level of attractiveness is not absolute, it's always relative. You as attractive, as many men you can "mog" as the younger generation likes to say. If you look like Edward Norton in 2000 but most men look like Brad Pitt from that era, you don't get a sniff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/26 11:42 AM |
| 2 | Why do you think women should change anything when they are not the ones complaining about dating?"Picking up over" is a manifestation of a preference, not saying women never form any kind of relationship with physically unattractive men. After all, even despite the whole "you go girl" movement in the West, men still earn more on average, have better paid degrees on average and are willing to sacrifice more for their career on average. And one of the biggest reasons for that is this being the only leverage they have. Add the fact that most women still prefer monogamy and the number of men wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/26 12:34 PM |
| 9 | Why do you think women should change anything when they are not the ones complaining about dating?Your attempt to decribe their mental process is totally wrong and contradictory by nature. Unless a man is an absolute imbecile, he knows that behaving according to their nature is not a matter of free will. Therefore you can hardly blame them. That's why no sane man on this planet will blame women for picking up a handsome, tall man with a full head of hair over short, ugly balding guy. What men hate is the constant beating around the bush and gaslighting many women (not all) showcase. And Redd… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/26 11:39 AM |
| 10 | Why do you think women should change anything when they are not the ones complaining about dating?Because they think that women have a bigger potential to change their behaviour. Men cannot systematically do much more things in a different way beside from making themselves more attractive. That in 2026 means mostly looks and your potential to improve your looks as a man is much more limited compared to women, as height, face and body frame play a key factor. Ofc everyone does what he's allowed to and when women are by far the stronger sex on the dating market, they will behave whatever they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/26 11:30 AM |
| 0 | Liberal/leftist women are the biggest hypocritesDespite of the narrative, many people are still too afraid to live alone and stay alone once they get old. You have a ton of relationships where women are settling and men are betabuxing. But ofc you will explain to me how this is never the case, how you and all your friends never had to settle because you all found your dream partners so I'm absolutely wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/26 01:00 PM |
| 1 | Liberal/leftist women are the biggest hypocritesAnd btw women don't agree we all like the same 10% of guys. Ya maybe women like 10% of guys but it's not the same 10% of men The overlay is probably like 15-20 % of the general male population. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/26 12:36 PM |
| – | What if humanity is meant to slowly die out due to incompatibility?I'm not saying every good-looking man who is in some kind of relationship has to cheat by default. But the more rather short (let's say couple months or not more than 2 years) relationships with attractive men you have, the smaller chance they were all exclusively intimate with you. Because with all due respect, I know more about the real male behaviour. I guess yours or her BFs don't talk about their sexual encounters on a Sunday afternoon, neither do your male "friends". But I have seen men op… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/26 09:03 AM |
| – | What if humanity is meant to slowly die out due to incompatibility?The elephant in the room is that either her partners were not getting casual sex that easy and it's just a wishful thinking to boost her ego that she "tied down" all these fuckboys. Or they were still sleeping around as she talks about these relationships in past tense (not anymore) and plural (more, so probably not long). It's easy as that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/26 08:42 AM |
| – | What if humanity is meant to slowly die out due to incompatibility?I love the idea that when you are dating men who can “very easily find one-night stands and hook-ups” and you were in a relationship with them (past tense, so probably not anymore and not for some substantial period of time), you safely know they had zero sex with other women during that period of time lol. You shared a household? I mean, even that does not prevent guys from sleeping around. But especially if you lived separated and the description of your male partners is right (they really wer… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/26 08:39 AM |
| – | What if humanity is meant to slowly die out due to incompatibility?That's an absolute BS excuse. I partly live in two first-world European states and in both countries the poorest people – who are still significantly better off than people in Sahel or Bangladesh but relatively poor for local standars – are having more kids than those who have abundance of resources. Main reason why people in the West don't have kids is either they would like to but they don't have a partner (for women, it's usually a result of wasting their prime years and then not finding a gu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/26 08:31 AM |
| 1 | Men confuse their desire as effortHonestly, I very seldolmly engage in discussions with women and especially female Redditors because the comment you are reacting to is like a textbook example of the absolutely unbridgeable differences in viewing a certain social phenomenon that stem partly from different evolutionary background and every day experience. I'd slightly adjust your statement. There is a "meritocracy" but a lot of the "merits" are out of control. Therefore it's not a typical meritocracy as we frame it where your fre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 12:28 PM |
| – | “I like to take things slow” usually means she’s not that into youAgree. Without that you're just riding a bike into the friendzone territory. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/26 11:54 AM |
| 2 | It's cruel to deprive your spouse of sex and also expect monogamy from themThere are two types of women. Those who never had super high libido and with age they are gradually losing interest about sex regardless of the partner. And women who either never were super attracted to their spouses from the beginning or they stopped being attracted to them because these guys did not age well. The coping Olympics on the side of men is that guys with women from group B are trying to lie to themselves and the people around them that the dead bedroom sitation is caused becase the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/26 10:38 AM |
| 1 | You're just not that guy. Its ok. There's nothing wrong that.I know what you mean but actually the realistic space for a guy to be a niche group desired by some women is much smaller. I'm European, slightly below 6 ft (182 cm), strawberry blonde hair, green eyes, athletic body and solid but not flat out handsome face. I've been told by Caucasian women, that I “look good for a ginger" and I've been told by Latinas or Asian women that I'm hot. But I realised that some of these women for who I may be exactly that "niche" group – and yeah I got a lot of casua… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 11:21 AM |
| 1 | You're just not that guy. Its ok. There's nothing wrong that.Every person and man on this planet has a ceiling for looksmaxxing. Going from 2,5 to 4 won't make much of the difference. We live in a world where genes decide. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 11:02 AM |
| 2 | You're just not that guy. Its ok. There's nothing wrong that.What OP wrote is a simplification. No man on this planet will get sex any day of the week. But the true meaning of these categories is that you want to be a man who is genuinly desired. And when women feel the need for sex, they go for him and enjoy the process. There is a shitload of men in marriages/LTR who are just not desired by their spouses who rather fantasise about being "hotwifes". And you really don't want to be there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/26 10:59 AM |
| 1 | Men should be happy to pay for the first dateA bigger part of my dating life were more or less hook-ups and "showing I can provide" was the last thing I was worried about. I wanted to look good and I wanted to be seen as articulated, educated and that by default displayed I'm probably not a garbage man pretending to be a white collar guy. Especially because I spent a lot of time meeting foreign women back home or women from all across the world abroad, being able to hold a conversation about topics regarding countries from the other part o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/26 01:55 PM |
| – | Dating isn't fair and it shouldn't be.And that ain't you. I'd be bragging to call myself hot but I'm good enough looking to personally experience that some of the red pill premises helped me a lot with women who had the initial interest, stemming from how I look. As for you, you are either better looking than you think or you aimed for some very low hanging fruits without further comments on that. I'm turning 39 pretty soon and I’ve seen a lot of men trying charm/clown themselves into pants of women who didn't give them any choosing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/26 03:22 PM |
| – | Dating isn't fair and it shouldn't be.Hot men can behave how they want and still get women. That's the iron rule of dating. By being a "red pill asshole" I don't mean being abusive but simply setting up very clear boundries and being honest about what your objectives are. And especially if you aim just for a hook-up, this behavior – with the underlying condition of being physically attractive – will get you even more success. Confident borderline arrogant good looking men are seen as more attractive compared to good looking diffiden… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/26 01:43 PM |
| – | Dating isn't fair and it shouldn't be.I have to admit that the inability to accept the truth in the comment section is really astonishing. I guess the coping mechanism of some men who struggle to be seen as attractive is having fantasies about re-programming what women are attracted to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/26 12:50 PM |
| – | Dating isn't fair and it shouldn't be.Every time a see a post like that, I feel like the hidden narrative behind it is that women could or even should be somehow "un-teached" what they are attracted to and they should somehow find the inner capacity to feel a level of genuine attraction towards men they are otherwise not attracted to. It will never happen, the only thing that happens, is as there is not enough attractive men on this planet, some women just settle down and lower their standards. It's not a coincidence that these guys… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/26 12:42 PM |
| – | Dating isn't fair and it shouldn't be.It does not matter if they backfire. They are simply there, whether you like it or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/26 12:31 PM |
| – | Dating isn't fair and it shouldn't be.It's not a one size fits all. When you have the fundamentals (looks), behaving like a red pill asshole will often bolster your success. When you're a genetic trash and you will try to apply some methods from the internet red pill guru's, you may often end up being reported to the HR or shamed within the community. That's actually the truth about the red pill summed up in a few sentences and that's why I never say it's either useless or miraculous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/26 12:29 PM |
| – | Dating isn't fair and it shouldn't be.I agree that men lie like hell (probably even more than women), but less frequently gaslight and virtue signal, especially when it comes to topics related to romantic life and dating. That's why there's this misleading notion that women are the more empathic or caring sex which leads to some absolutely deluded assumptions. You are right that there is a specific group of men, who hate when women gaslight and then blame them for being shallow when they admit their motivations every now and then. T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/26 12:21 PM |
| – | Dating isn't fair and it shouldn't be.I think there are some deluded men who are either very young or somehow grew up too much with the Disney "there's someone for everyone" narrative. In this day and age, you really should not be that naive anymore and these men need to wake up. But honestly, most men who are angry are fully aware of that fact. They are only sick of the perpetual gaslighting and virtue signalling and they start these never ending discussions on the internet to basically catch women when their gaslighting shield is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/26 09:54 AM |
| 5 | In the wake of the global U-turn to conservatism, do you think there is need for course correction in promoting gender equality?Regardless of what all these redpill gurus say, women are these days willing to accept a guy who not only does not make more money than they do, but makes the same, in some cases even slightly less (when the woman is well-off). But for women to tolerate that scenario, the man has to be a great catch from a genetic POV, aka be hot. Majority of men don't belong into that category and women are confronted with the reality that because they are average, their long term partner will not look like Bra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/26 02:29 PM |
| 8 | In the wake of the global U-turn to conservatism, do you think there is need for course correction in promoting gender equality?The schizophrenia between individial expectations and proclaimed social standards is the flagship of the postmodern world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/26 02:19 PM |
| 16 | In the wake of the global U-turn to conservatism, do you think there is need for course correction in promoting gender equality?It's easy – a lot of men realised that regardless of the official proclamations, there is a strong (not absolute) sum zero element to the female empowerment movement. And when shit hits the fan, it's not about what they believe should be moral or good, it's about what they can profit from. Making a non-significant group of men totally obsolete on the dating market will not make them satisfied with the current state of affairs. They will fight to reverse that trend just as women fought to be inde… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/26 01:50 PM |
| 4 | Men can’t really claim to know “the truth” about female attractionI commented on that many times. Red pill and PUA stuff is very useful for men who have the fundamentals in terms of looks but are struggling with escalating and don't look so blatantly good that women unconditionally throw themselves at them. I know what I talk about, because this was me in my early-mid 20s in the late 00s, early 10s. I profited from learning the game but when I became older, I realised that all these interactions were mine to lose – in terms of women having the initial attracti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/26 12:24 PM |
| 8 | Men can’t really claim to know “the truth” about female attractionObservation + personal experience is the best combination to study a social phenomenon. The bigger the volume, the better. As for male attractiveness, behaviour is overrated and looks are still somewhat underrated in the mainstream but it changes literally as we speak. All the red pill teachings about frame are valid when a man can already put the foot in the door with his looks. The tragedy of the PUA/red-pilll generation of the 2010s is that they misunderstood that correlation does not equal c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/26 01:28 PM |
| – | Externalizing blame is necessary and healthy for keeping your sanity as an unsuccesful man.I think you should go through the last paragraph once again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 10:32 PM |
| 18 | Externalizing blame is necessary and healthy for keeping your sanity as an unsuccesful man.In theory I agree. The problem is that the same type of people (most women and a lot of men) who say that sexual success does not define a man's value, will call him an incel or a loser once they get in an argument with him and try to hit him where it hurts. Because part of the gaslighting process that is going on for decades was to downplay the effect of physical looks and on the other hand overplay the effect of social norms, behaviour, career etc. Most of women and a lot of men are so heavily… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/26 12:00 PM |
| 0 | We live in the most competetive Dating Market off all time, and it isnt even close.Yes they do but they have a much bigger margin for a women they don't see as perfect and especially for casual stuff they have no problems hooking-up down. A 8/10 guy has no problems pumping a 6/10 chick if all he has to do is write a message an take an uber. A 8/10 chick will not even look at the way of a 6/10 guy for casual stuff. The rating is solely on physical attractiveness just to clarify. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 04:10 PM |
| 0 | We live in the most competetive Dating Market off all time, and it isnt even close.Why you're asking me? I know it's an absurd idea, that's why I say it will never happen. But apparently a lot of men don't understand when they flex with these "statistical logic" arguments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 04:06 PM |
| 0 | We live in the most competetive Dating Market off all time, and it isnt even close.Ok, so let's just say women need sex less than men and more single women are actually sexless. That does not invalidate my argument because they don't lack something they desperately want by genetic design as much as men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 03:34 PM |
| 0 | We live in the most competetive Dating Market off all time, and it isnt even close.For women a 5/10 guy is not a percentile 50 as you would suggest but roughly a percentile 70. A 7/10 guy is not a percentile 70 but a percentile 82, maybe even 85. You actually follow the arithmetic logic, that a 1-10 scale is based on cohorts of equal size in each decile. That's not how women operate. For women, at least 70 % of men, maybe more like 80 % are "average at best”. Their ranking is not linear. I find ridiculous how so many men don't understand that logic even in 2026 and start to gi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 11:50 AM |
| 2 | We live in the most competetive Dating Market off all time, and it isnt even close."Leagues" were way way more strict back in the day, has plenty off factors but in general back in the day the 7 out of 10 Guys were dating the 7 out of 10 Women. A 3 out of 10 Women had 0 Chances to pull even a average or forget even about above average Guy. It wasn't that strict yet different from now. But what you fail to understand is that the current world is the women being allowed to bahave naturally. It's not a social construct. Leagues and looks-matches were a social construct and the in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 11:42 AM |
| 1 | We live in the most competetive Dating Market off all time, and it isnt even close.Also, what men that are 8’s and 9’s are sleeping with unattractive women? You ask that because you're a woman. I have seen a ton examples how highly attractive guys use not unattractive but dead average women for an easy no strings attached sex. It's all a matter of selection. A guy is horny, variants A or B are not available so he goes for variant C. Women always have a threshold under which they never go. And the threshold is even higher for casual sex and it's always at least their looks matc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 10:37 AM |
| 2 | We live in the most competetive Dating Market off all time, and it isnt even close.No offence but this is a textbook example of viewing the world as a woman. Because statistically "being single" is not a one size fits all for both women and men. Most women who are single and in a reasonable age are not deprived of intimacy. I'd say that a significant majority of single women between 18–50 does have sex every now and then. With men, there is a group of highly attractive guys who don't want to commit because the world is like a candy shop with unlimited options. But for every gu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 10:23 AM |
| 0 | Men say they want “good girls” but they reward hoesMen don't form it always with sex either. Ofc they don't, in fact attractive men don't form any form of relationship with the vast majority of women they have sex with. On the other hand, when they do, they never do it without sex. I always say that when a man wants to be sure he wasn't settled for, the best way is to form a relationship from something that started as a hook-up. Because as a man you want to be seen as a hook-up material before you can be a partnership material. I agree that wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 02:22 PM |
| 21 | Men say they want “good girls” but they reward hoesWomen have chronic problems understanding that men don't form a deeper emotional relationship with women they don't have sex with. This notion that "we'll become friends, partners, fall in love, live together and than have sex" is a retarded uptake of the "good ole world from the 1950s" just as men do but with different issues. Sexual compatibility is precondition for forming a LTR. But there's no other way to test it than...have sex. And the more attractive that given man is, the less he will t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/26 11:43 AM |
| 1 | Casual sex is the only way to know you are desirable as a man.I'd say face is still the most important feature. Structured face is the most attractive (unless it's very extreme). Sharp jawline, visible chin, high cheek bones. Full head of hair or only a very mild balding pattern. Blue/green eyes can be a plus with some women. As for your body, height certainly helps. Being above average among men in the place you live is good, being strongly above average is a huge boost. Yet I still don't think height is the number one factor like many especially younger … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/26 10:11 AM |
| 11 | Common dating advice straight up doesn’t work for the average guy struggling with datingRed pill advice works for people who have the potential but they are not flat out panty droppers. Unless you want to become a beta buxer. When you are a really attractive man, you have to be autistic or socially retarded to struggle with women because they basically throw themselves at you since your teens. When you are unattractive or lower-average, the advice on how to behave, "hold a frame" and all these red pill teachings are going to be mostly useless because you lack the fundamentals to ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/26 10:01 AM |
| 1 | Casual sex is the only way to know you are desirable as a man.even when no one mentioned his looks People usually don't talk about the water being wet. Moreover, there's nothing magical about that scenario. The only logical way to form your argument in order to dispute my initial claim would be to actually mention his looks. And say that he was average at best. I guess that wasn't the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 01:26 PM |
| 3 | Casual sex is the only way to know you are desirable as a man.It's funny how women always talk about these situationships like they magically fall from the sky and use them as a proof how casual sex just happens and even men only need to be at the right time in the right place. Lol no. What you haven't said is that maybe these women knew the guy for a longer time but he had the latent capacity to be seen by them as a possible hook-up. And once the right time came (break-up, personal problems, alcohol, whatever) they banged him. But only because the guy had… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/26 10:59 AM |
| 5 | Men, why are you surprised that attractive women are attracted to attractive men af/bb? And should women feel the same?Most men don't even look at baddies, they unsuccessfuly chase mommies, end up banging fatties and then betabux with a mommy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/26 01:37 PM |
| 2 | Casual sex is the only way to know you are desirable as a man.Men hate the idea that without their money/affection/stability their provide they are not desirable. And dating market of the last couple of years showed that a lot, if not the majority of men are in this position. I mean, men probably knew this might be the case even decades ago. But the last 10 years or so brought a crystal clear evidence so men lost a lot of their cope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/26 01:27 PM |
| 1 | Casual sex is the only way to know you are desirable as a man.The "average straight guy" would absolutely love to have more sexual partners in his lifetime but the same guy also gets zero attention on Tinder and only borderline/flat out hiddeous women (who he's not attracted to) consider him a hook-up material. So he ends up with 6 sexual partners in their lifetime. That's the reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/26 01:21 PM |
| 0 | Casual sex is the only way to know you are desirable as a man.This comment is a fantastic example of how women and men look at a same phenomenon with a totally different lenses and without trying to understand how the other gender thinks, there's a zero chance for empathy. Men view casual sex COMPLETELY different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/26 01:16 PM |
| 0 | Casual sex is the only way to know you are desirable as a man.being a better choice than a guy's hand shouldn't be flattering or some sort of ego boost really but it's frequently cited as a motivator in these instances. That's because a lot of women delude themselves by thinking men are as selective as they are in terms of criteria for casual sex. And this self-delusion often materializes in thinking that they are entitled to find a guy for a relationship of a hook-up worthy calibre (looks-wise). As time goes by, these women divide into three groups. First… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/26 01:10 PM |
| 1 | Casual sex is the only way to know you are desirable as a man.The basic logic of participating in casual sex – even as a man – is having sex with someone you're at least somewhat attracted to. To put it very frankly, who makes you d**k hard. And even if men have much lower threshold for women than vise versa, they very rarely have sex with someone who they consider totally unattractive just to have a notch. You have to be hardcore desperate to do that. So you cannot say that casual sex is easy, "just lower your standards". Flat out sexually unattractive pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/26 12:56 PM |
| 0 | Casual sex is the only way to know you are desirable as a man."Its just that women looking for casual sex are less selective..." Wrong, they are pretty selective. Because I would want a confident man. Not a guy who needs constant sex or external validation. Men without sexual validation are not confident by default. Even men who can get sex but they know it's because of their money and status, not physical looks, are insecure. Zuckerberg and Bezos are two guys, who are – in terms of physical appearance – borderline genetic trash. Short, ugly, Bezos balding… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/26 12:40 PM |
| 2 | Casual sex is the only way to know you are desirable as a man.I've seen plenty of women who downgraded when it comes looks and charisma (as well as other traits) with their husbands. Almost every woman where I have at least somewhat knowledge about her sexual history has downgraded in terms of looks compared to her fuckboys, hook-ups or FWB. And without bragging just a dry statement – some of the women I hooked up with in the past shared some pictures on WA or social media later on as they got married. I know women always say that "it's in the eye of the b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/26 12:35 PM |
| 5 | Casual sex is the only way to know you are desirable as a man.The people doing casual sex, are not animalistically attracted to you, your just in the right place at the right time, snd it’s likely their going to ask you to leave first thing in the morning. Maybe from a female perspective but from a male perspective you cannot be more wrong. Actually, it's the complete opposite. Because of the much higher criteria women have for casual sex, when they select a guy, it's based on what you call "animalistic attraction". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/26 12:19 PM |
| 1 | Casual sex is the only way to know you are desirable as a man.Cheat down? You mean in terms of money, right? Super rarely in terms of physical attractiveness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/26 12:04 PM |
| 1 | Casual sex is the only way to know you are desirable as a man.I love how these red pill gurus aways preach men to show "abundance", when tons of guys nowadays feel zero interest from women and for often it's because of their looks. This abundance concept is somewhat true for guys in a relationship who for example let their GFs know that they are hit by other women. And even though their GFs don't like it, especially if the "other women" are hot, they subconsciously take it as a social proof for their BFs and it makes them more attractive. As result, their … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/26 12:00 PM |
| – | The feminist narrative of 30+ men’s preference for younger (18-25) women being due to their inability to get women their age is one of the most laughable things I’ve ever heardWe aren’t gorillas, choosing someone primarily based on some surface level evolutionary drive just seems so unsexy, unflattering, objectifying and antisocial on a human level. This exactly what average women do. Especially for casual sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/26 04:50 PM |
| 1 | Much of MGTOW worked its way into the mainstream.I’m turning 39 in a few weeks and live in Europe (just to make it clear I’m not an American, the landscape can be a bit different but not that much). I’m currently in a three-year relationship and plan to get married next year. Both me and my GF already talk about prenap. She has no problem with that, she even initiated these talks. I feel pretty safe due to various reasons. My GF is a hardworking professional who despite being younger than me makes the same amount of money. She did not chose me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/26 03:06 PM |
| 1 | Much of MGTOW worked its way into the mainstream.Zuckerberg and Bezos are two guys, who are – in terms of physical appearance – borderline genetic trash. Short, ugly, Bezos balding since forever, Zuck baby faced until forever. Ofc they got themselves chicks (even though with Zuck it was the typical Asian to the rescue). But guess what. Both of these guys have come a long way to make themselves more physically attractive. Zuckerberg thinks he’ll look more masculine training MMA and Bezos is like walking looksmaxing display case, being juiced to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/26 03:14 PM |
| 1 | Much of MGTOW worked its way into the mainstream.Because the "can't get laid" is so inherently embedded into the reality of MGTOW movement, that you simply cannot omit this uncomfortable argument. And you need to look at it in a wider perspective. Most of these guys don't have the means to betabux or they refuse to. And because that's their only path to getting laid, they just gave up on women. So they are basically quasi-incels – they could get women but only in a relationship where they would have to invest time and resources. The result is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/26 03:04 PM |
| 1 | Much of MGTOW worked its way into the mainstream.Most of these young guys don't have the means to betabux or they refuse to. And because that's their only path to getting laid, they just gave up on women. So they are basically quasi-incels – they could get women but only in a relationship where they would have to invest time and resources. The result is they are involuntarily celibate. They would love to have sex but not under these circumstances. The MGTOW of mid 10s I remember were a bunch of youtube guys assuring us left and right how their… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/26 02:56 PM |
| 1 | Much of MGTOW worked its way into the mainstream.For every MGTOW guy like that, you have like 10 "MGTOW" guys who are just are bunch of quasi-incels who could technically use betabuxing/providing to get some lower quality chicks in her thirties but they refuse to. And because this is the only possible way for these guys to get pussy, they spin the narrative into "I don't need any pussy". I mean, I have no problems with men being alone rather than betabuxing. That's a fair decision. But the framing of the whole situation as if they somehow brok… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/26 02:29 PM |
| 1 | Much of MGTOW worked its way into the mainstream.I love how most MGTOW try to present themselves as players who just avoid wedlock/LTR when in reality they are just are bunch of quasi-incels who could technically use betabuxing/providing to get some lower quality chicks in her thirties but they refuse to. And because this is the only possible way for these guys to get pussy, they spin the narrative into "I don't need any pussy". I mean, I have no problems with men being alone rather than betabuxing. That's a fair decision. But the framing of t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/26 02:25 PM |
| 1 | My two female friends say that dating in America is hell on earth for men and go elsewhere. Can you admit that?Having no options and options you consider insufficient puts the person in a same situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/26 05:50 PM |
| 3 | If it was about women being consistent with their sexual behavior, then it would make more sense for men to pursue women who makes everyone wait for sex.Many men, more like a huge majority of men basically know that they are not the best catch in terms of hook-up quality sex. And they know that the more male partners their GF had, the higher standards she has because with a higher number of tries you have a higher chance to find someone (close to) perfection. And they fear these women will outsource these qualities via cheating. One of the reasons why men love this idea of low body count and almost unblemished virgins is that they subconsciously… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/26 12:59 PM |
| 1 | My two female friends say that dating in America is hell on earth for men and go elsewhere. Can you admit that?That's what men don't get about the female nature. They think it's "rational" for them to just drop their standards and pick from the options they have. Sorry buddy, this is not how women operate and if men will continue to think they do, this world will be even bigger shitshow than now. You cannot rationalize yourself into being attracted to someone you're not. People are mammals. female consider a much smaller portion of males to be attractive than vice versa. Trust me, these relationships whe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/26 12:52 PM |
| – | Men here present all men in a terrible light and then act surprised when women call them out*Had no idea* "often a label" – you see? "often" Honestly, when I made this remark, I knew that in case of a reply from your side, it will be probably the main topic you'll touch upon, because it may imply you fall into that category. I don't say you do but it's a common scenario. Many of the so called "male-female" friendships have this pattern of either men being friendzoned and while being officially a "friend" they just would like to be more but the doors are closed. Or it's the other way ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/26 12:34 PM |
| 2 | Paying for it is so much better than casual sex.1) Saying paid sex is better than hook-ups is a massive cope and I categorically disagree. 2) Having said that, sex work should be fully legalized. 3) All this "if she ever finds out" is my favourite Reddit folklore. The biggest womanizer I ever knew – who also happened to be extremely physically attractive guy with money and bragged about sleeping with 400 women by the age of 30 – used escorts even though women were standing in line to fuck him. Now he's 40 and I'll bet my tennis rackets, that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/26 09:57 AM |
| 0 | Men here present all men in a terrible light and then act surprised when women call them outI'm not saying that to prove men are bad. I have zero emotional investment in judging the morality of other men on whether they cheat or not. But I know a lot of men who have cheated in the past when they were in a relationship – either they told me as a friend (they sometimes even were my wingmen so it was pretty impossible for me not to know lol) or it became known after the relationship ended. And I'm sure most of their "female friends" (which is from an attractive man's POV often a label for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/26 03:39 PM |
| 2 | Men here present all men in a terrible light and then act surprised when women call them outI love how you know whether they don't cheat on their GFs and wives just because you're their "friend". I mean yeah, I'm sure most of them don't but it's a funny statement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/26 03:22 PM |
| – | “Red Pill Accuracy vs Seeing Women’s Full Past: Which Would Break You?”Swiping ratio on Tinder amongst straight women is 5–10 % right. Roughly 1/3 of young men in the West is currently sexless. Only about 1 % of population is asexual. When women rate men's attractiveness, they consider 80 % as "below-average". The set of traits women consider attractive on men is significantly more narrow than vice-versa. Height, frame, body fat and most importantly certain facial features are key. And yet most women end up in an LTR and have a family. How does this happen? Most im… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/26 12:26 PM |
| – | “Red Pill Accuracy vs Seeing Women’s Full Past: Which Would Break You?”Publicly known stats. Ofc no survey on this planet is framed as a question for women "did have to settle?". But you have many implicit tells, when you put certain pieces of the puzzle together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/26 11:56 AM |
| – | “Red Pill Accuracy vs Seeing Women’s Full Past: Which Would Break You?”Even if women can make their own money, dating apps and all sorts of survey's keep on showing again and again, that women consider like an 80 % of men to be below average as for their attractiveness. Yet you don't see 80 % of being single at a certain age. But you see an extremely high number of young men being sexless in their late teens / early-mid twenties. So what do you think happens with time? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/26 11:21 AM |
| – | “Red Pill Accuracy vs Seeing Women’s Full Past: Which Would Break You?”"Being settled for" isn't a thing. Now that's a prime 2026 Reddit statement! I love this place lol! Brilliant mental insight into today's society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/26 11:17 AM |
| – | “Red Pill Accuracy vs Seeing Women’s Full Past: Which Would Break You?”It's not about the number of past relationships. It's about the overall code of conduct. One of the reasons for the current population crisis in the West is the dating market being left even by men, who would have the potential to be somewhat successful if they would leverage the lack of physical attractiveness with money, providing stability etc. Many men (to put it frankly the majority of these men) still do it but more and more individuals from this category are opting out. It's probably neve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/26 11:15 AM |
| 1 | Gen Z men shouldn't take dating advice from older generationsIf you had "more than 10 guys a day trying to approach for dates/hookups" you must have been super hot while living in a part of town where men were recently released from prison lol. Or you consider a stare as an approach. These are wild numbers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/26 03:46 PM |
| – | The rise in single males is caused by women only wanting to date married men.That is almost an Aristotelian-like logic, absolutelly bullet proof. "Men who are sexless against their will and blame women for that want to have sex with women against their will." Reddit is really a great place, lol! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/26 01:56 PM |
| – | The rise in single males is caused by women only wanting to date married men.They would like to change the situation but they don't have means or are not succeeding in doing so. So they are in that position against their will. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/26 01:43 PM |
| – | The rise in single males is caused by women only wanting to date married men.Married men are on average more physically attractive and/or have more resources. Women don't want to date them primarily because they are married (even though there is an undeniable factor of social proof that women like) but because they have on average more qualities women want and like. Single men, especially in a certain age, have less of those qualities and the result is them being single (when by single we mean totally sexless). For every man, who is single not sexless because life is gre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/26 01:22 PM |
| 1 | Rejected men and loss of masculinity. How ate they suppose to deal with it.Fundamentally disagree. Men have different hormone levels which is the main biochemical base for what one would call a "masculine behaviour". "Train themselves out" seems like a bizarre way to describe a castration. And even men on hormone treatment often struggle to give up masculine behaviour. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/26 11:05 AM |
| 0 | Rejected men and loss of masculinity. How ate they suppose to deal with it.Some of them fear that social norms and modified social environment will be used to suppress the deeply rooted masculine urges every normal man has. And by that I don't mean that they won't rape and kill you on the street only because they are afraid of the punishment. Even though people are advanced animals, free will and morality sets us apart. But for example losing access to women for men, who are not attractive per se and used financial stability in the past is being considered as a threat … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/26 10:03 AM |
| 0 | Rejected men and loss of masculinity. How ate they suppose to deal with it.And how you take away masculinity by "social means"? You think that biological hardwiring of men is different, because women can make their own money? Ofc masculinity is still present, only cultivated by social norms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/26 09:41 AM |
| 0 | Rejected men and loss of masculinity. How ate they suppose to deal with it.You think the fact that men used wear high heels and wigs is and argument for claiming masculinity is a social construct? These same men participated in gun duels, sabre duels, fought in wars and behaved in a very masculine manner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/26 09:39 AM |
| 2 | Rejected men and loss of masculinity. How ate they suppose to deal with it.Ahhh, the intellectual misery of the critical theory in full force. Sometimes I feel as if their whole life is just a social construct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/26 09:36 AM |
| 1 | Being hookup/FWB material is better than being husband material.Yep but in reality women often can compromise on the looks part and when they say "husband material", they mean "not the best looking but stable". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/26 08:33 AM |
| 8 | What hoops do you have to jump through while trying to date?I learned that physical attraction is absolutely key. Jestering is usually a sad way to leverage what is missing in looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/26 02:58 PM |
| 1 | Modern dating is an androphobic gynocracy and it will only keep getting worseWhile a lot what OP talked about is true, I cannot help to think that all these long posts from a couple of days old profiles are just vents in order to create an atmosphere how the world is totally fucked and will collapse and then the betas will finally prove their worth. In reality, jack shit will happen. The biggest problem may be declining birth rates. Women will still fuck physically attractive men with no strings attached and will make betas wait, pass several shit tests and prove their c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/26 10:39 AM |
| 2 | Just Feels PointlessYou don't need to pay for cosmetic surgeries unless you are happy with getting into a relationship with a guy, who has a similar relative position on the attractiveness scale among men like you have among women. If you are better looking than 50 out of 100 women who are roughly in the similar age and he looks better than 50 out of 100 men, to put it franky. The problem is that women who are not super attractive themselves are often not attracted to their relative counterparts and men who they fi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/26 09:34 AM |
| 6 | Gen Z men shouldn't take dating advice from older generationsI started dating in mid 2000s when people already used ICQ and most importantly MySpace (or similar platforms in Europe where I live). I always correct these younger guys who say how women changed. No, women did not change. Only the combination of technology available and different social norms allows them to behave more natural. Even before we were born, women were the same, they only lacked the options. Having said that, I don't think you fully comprehend the effect of social media and dating … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/26 12:34 PM |
| 1 | It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive.https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10480972/ Preferences for Male Height Consistent with multiple evolutionary perspectives, height is considered an important feature of male attractiveness (for a review, see Courtiol, Raymond, Godelle, & Ferdy, 2010). In two studies, women were more likely than men to indicate that height matters when selecting a mate (Salska et al., 2008; Yancey & Emerson, 2014), and taller men were more likely to be selected for dates at speed dating events (Kurzban & W… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 03:20 PM |
| 1 | It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive.I never said that there’s zero validity to sociology claims. But it’s pathetic how „sociology“ or better to say social narratives claim that certain aspects of human behaviour are mostly or even purely shaped by social dynamics and environment. When you talk about attraction, you actually have biological underpinnings described in a shit load of academic body of work over decades, that is using quantitative analysis and statistics. I’m almost 15 years out of university but I’m sure you’re be abl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/26 10:17 AM |
| 1 | It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive.That's like wanting a source for a statement that women are biologically attracted to taller men compared to shorter men or women prefer men with a sharp jawline and high cheekbones over men with chubby faces looking like adult kids. The real life is the source. Who gets hook-ups compared to who has to betabux and who's not even able to do that is the source. Who has success on dating apps is the source. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 04:42 PM |
| 1 | It is not necessary to use intellectualism to reject people you find repulsive.So on a date you don't have to defend it, but in a sociology classroom or an intellectual discussion, you might want to. Yeah and the best way is to use biological and evolutionary explanations. The problem is that people tend to blame social factors for trends that are more affected by biology than they would like to admit. And why? Because once you say something is a "social construct", you can try to "deconstruct" it (aka the comping Olympics you see in so many Reddit threads). But once you a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/26 03:36 PM |
| 1 | Men need to have a certain amount of casual sex before their thirst and desire for it is satiated long term. This amount is unique to each man and he needs to be honest with himself about it. Until you've been there done that, you won't experience the true platonic human side of womenI have mostly a positive attitude towards these women. I'm in touch with a few hook ups from all around the world. It's interesting seeing their path over the years. Some became good wives, some are in their mid-thirties and still try to find the right guy. What's funny and logical at the same time is that women who struggle the most are usually those who keep their standards they had for guys they used to hook-up with. One chick who wished me a Happy New Year told me how all men she seems to at… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/26 01:04 PM |
| 2 | Men need to have a certain amount of casual sex before their thirst and desire for it is satiated long term. This amount is unique to each man and he needs to be honest with himself about it. Until you've been there done that, you won't experience the true platonic human side of womenMen who were not desired when they were young (and I mean like 25 not 18) pedestalize casual sex later in life because they often leverage money and status to get casual sex. But the whole dynamic is totally different compared to being genuinely desired as a man based on your physical appearance. Basically it's more or less glorified prostitution. But these men are just catching up in their late 30s or 40s with men who are superior in terms of looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/26 12:47 PM |
| 1 | When women say they don't want dating to be transactional, they mean they don't want it to be that way for women onlyYou can ask about her bodycount but if she's offended, she'll unmatch. I'm not saying you’re unattractive but an average woman probably has by default more options than you. More matches, more likes, more reactions. No one is forcing you to continue talking to a woman who asks you how tall you are or how big your dick is. But if you don't have the abundance needed, you are afraid to lose these matches only because they asked some uncomfortable questions. And because more, or better to say most m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/26 09:38 AM |
| 1 | When women say they don't want dating to be transactional, they mean they don't want it to be that way for women onlyThey have more options than you – I guess you've been out for a really long time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/26 09:26 AM |
| 3 | More men and women becoming Passport Bros and Passport Sisyers is the only solution that benefits everyoneI've travelled a lot around the region in 2018–2019 because I lived in southern China. Got my fair share of fun to put it very softly and never ever have I paid for more than a drink, uber or a dinner in a non-luxury restaurant. Actually some of the women I met were from wealthy families and even made more money than I did with having education from the UK etc. I certainly wasn't a "loser back home" but the amount of options I had over there in terms of quality and quantity in a combination with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/26 10:45 AM |
| 0 | What's so bad about being friends with women anyway?Many women don't even realise that a lot of guys they consider as "friends" were actually implicitly friendzoned but since them guys never found the cojones to make any move these women have no clue. Especially because they often see these men as so below them on an attractiveness level that they cannot even fathom the idea of their friendzoned “friends” having a crush on them. Because women systematically avoid the idea that men they fund unattractive would even dare to dream about them in a ro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 01:45 PM |
| 0 | Men shouldn't take dating advice from women (on the internet)The problem most women have is not a rocket science. Men give a rational advice but the problem is that women cannot talk themselves into rationality. If an average chick can get a quick pump and dump from a 6'2 guy with a solid body and a 7/10 face but she fails again and again in locking these guys, then the problem and the advice is obvious. But what most men don't understand, women simply cannot wake up one day and feel attracted to someone they are not. So – from a man's POV logical – advic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 09:50 AM |
| 17 | Men shouldn't take dating advice from women (on the internet)Any men above 25 who takes advice from women in regard to dating is really lost. I mean, you can fall for that if you're fresh outta high school but at certain age you either understand what this world is about or you're retarded, sorry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 09:34 AM |
| 5 | Hair transplants are gender affirming care, and should therefore be subsidized in countries with socialized healthcare.No offence, but have you actually done a reaseach how expensive these transplants are? It's not 1995 anymore. Anyone who feels it's important (and I'm not downplaying the value od hair at all) should be able to save money over time. At least in the West. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/26 04:51 PM |
| 1 | Its not biphobic to not date bi menBecause men would almost never consider a woman's bisexuality a problem lol. How many times have seen it your own life? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/26 10:38 AM |
| 2 | Do you think attraction is a choice?If he looks any good, I would to told him to go for a younger woman. I mean not 19 but around 30. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/26 09:27 AM |
| 1 | Do you think attraction is a choice?Thanks for saying the truth. From a male point of view I agree 100 %. The more binary the choice is, the smaller room a man has to talk/clown his way into being perceived as sexually attractive. But red pill gurus wouldn't sale any courses for 500 bucks if men realised that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/26 09:25 AM |
| 1 | Bisexual men represent the biggest share of bluepill men on PPD, yet women overwhelmingly are disgusted by the idea of dating a bisexual man.They do ok with men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 12:09 PM |
| 1 | Bisexual men represent the biggest share of bluepill men on PPD, yet women overwhelmingly are disgusted by the idea of dating a bisexual man.1) Anal penetration is by far the most dangerous way of sex in terms of STD transmission. 2) Women are attracted to masculine men. Having sex with another men is not traditionally seen as masculine. Therefore bisexual men are not seen as attractive by average women. 3) Having sex with women does not make women less feminine in the eyes of average men, unless they are pure lesbians. You can say it's hypocritical or cherry picked but this is reality. Because of that women being much less attracted… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/26 12:08 PM |
| 4 | People who claim women are "happier single" have never spoken to a truly undesirable womanA lot of single women are young, somewhat attractive and are chased by hungry men all the time. Then you have older women, who are divorced, have kids, divorceraped their betabuxer or cheating alpha husband and they are well off while having satisfied their maternal instincts. Ofc these women will be happy. Now take into account only childless women over 40. They pretend to be happy while cry themselves to sleep and going on a chocolate-eating spree lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/26 12:19 PM |
| 1 | The days of men cold approaching random women in streets, malls, and grocery stores left and right are long gone and will never come back.Wow | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/25 03:27 PM |
| 2 | The cock sharing pact between alphas and mid-tier carousel casualties is fucking dead.What's interesting is how often women aren't chasing objectively elite men. There are so many trash-tier men that women go for. We all know about serial killers with groupies. It's crazy whenever I see people try to pretend that women are choosing the best and brightest men. Looks and physical attraction are key. Modern world limits the value of money and status even more. I'm amazed how many men still fail to understand because they have been raised in this illusion how an unattractive short ba… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 10:51 PM |
| 2 | The days of men cold approaching random women in streets, malls, and grocery stores left and right are long gone and will never come back.The main skill set is being tall or tallish, above average face, good frame and low body fat with decent muscle. I became more physically attractive in my early-mid 20s compared to when I was 18 and it was like doors that used to be closed and shut where suddenly opened. Only an imbecile does not know how to walk through. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 10:32 PM |
| 2 | The days of men cold approaching random women in streets, malls, and grocery stores left and right are long gone and will never come back.Wow | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/12/25 10:23 PM |
| – | Gifts, favors, rides, clever comebacks, jokes, being funny, being a good person, game will NOT generate attractionThis comment should be pinned on the top of this and maybe like 10 other subreddits. And there should be a disclamer "what women really think". I've realised this maybe like a 15 years ago but the amount of men who are not able to look through this or admit it to themselves is outrageous. And the amount of money being spend on false hopes is ridiculous as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/25 10:33 PM |
| 3 | It’s smart for a man to stop being friends with a women after she rejects himI’ve been rejected by friends before (usually because gay). It ain’t that big of a deal Haha, that's brilliant how you make an equation between a woman being rejected by a gay man and a man being rejected by hetero or bi woman. I mean, you cannot say that with a straight face. Or you really don't see the difference? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/25 11:34 PM |
| 1 | Location as a solution to dating gets a very bad rap because it’s put underneath the “Passport Bro” moniker, when you don’t have to go abroadEither Asia/LatAm or Europe. No US. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/25 01:49 PM |
| 1 | Location as a solution to dating gets a very bad rap because it’s put underneath the “Passport Bro” moniker, when you don’t have to go abroad1) I've never been to Colombia and never met a Colombian. 2) I've dated most Latina girls in Europe, either when they travelled around the continent and visited Central Europe / Scandinavia where I live or when I've been to Spain or Portugal. I've dated Brasilians, Mexicans, Peruvians and Chileans. In the region I've been to Mexico, Peru and Chile. Mexico and Peru holiday/mountaineering, Chile a business trip. 3) My Spanish is pretty basic, like A2. But it's technically my fifth language so I us… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/25 10:33 AM |
| 2 | Location as a solution to dating gets a very bad rap because it’s put underneath the “Passport Bro” moniker, when you don’t have to go abroadWell, since you make open that you stay in the city for 5 days or so, once they go on a date with you, it makes sance they don't go to form a relstionship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/25 10:39 PM |
| 2 | Location as a solution to dating gets a very bad rap because it’s put underneath the “Passport Bro” moniker, when you don’t have to go abroadYou are wrong again. I used to pick Ethnic women who travelled across Europe as rich tourists or business pros. You have either no clue or you cannot cope with the reality that a guy an average chubby Western chick more likely swipes left on, because he's not 6'2 and 8/10, is genuinely considered attractive by girls from other continents. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/25 10:15 PM |
| 2 | Location as a solution to dating gets a very bad rap because it’s put underneath the “Passport Bro” moniker, when you don’t have to go abroadYou think every man who dates women abroad because his looks give him a better chance compared to his region purchases women? I've been on a date with some Asian and Latina girls who's family was like filthy rich even for Europan standards. Or they made 200k USD per year in freaking Jakarta in 2019, which is like being a proper millionaire in the West. I have some goods that are universally attractive throughout states and continents but in Europe it still does not make a Casanova who picks girl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/25 10:09 PM |
| 3 | Location as a solution to dating gets a very bad rap because it’s put underneath the “Passport Bro” moniker, when you don’t have to go abroadSorry, you are absolutely WRONG. I've met a shit ton of Latina and Asian women in their countries or abroad being a 182 cm, athletic, slightly above average face, pale, strawberry blonde guy, green eyes guy. I'm half Scandinavian and half Central European and even though I'd probably say I'm above average looking even here, I still never was your prototypical fuck boy. In order to get casual sex from European women, I needed to work hard, spin a lot of plates and be satisfied with average at bes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/25 10:01 PM |
| 2 | People are frustrated because they're essentially wasting their prime years without intimacy and romantic affection"I had my wildest dating life between 30-35" So did I but looking back the reason were not some red pill rules. it was more about overcoming some mental blocks. Actually these blocks stemmed from my younger self focusing too much on red pill mantras like needing money, proper job, your own flat etc. At 26 I was getting choosing signals left and right but because I was ashamed that I live with my parents and have a dead end job. My prime could have started 5 years ago but I was a stupid. Yeah, so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/25 04:30 PM |
| 4 | People are frustrated because they're essentially wasting their prime years without intimacy and romantic affectionIt's your prime in terms of how you feel and enjoy certain experiences. But a lot of people's absolute prime is no prime relatively to others within society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/25 04:11 PM |
| – | Suddenly all female preferences are "heckin valid" and not to be questionedI couldn't care less about K-pop but from my understanding K-pop stars are basically top tier Korean men, who are significantly taller than average, have a very attractive face for local standards are fit and do everything in their power to resemble Caucasian features even to the point they wear colour lenses so that their eyes look blue or green. No offence but I don't think that's some kind of historical triumph of the East Asian culture in terms of sexual preferences. I live in Europe and eve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/25 10:14 AM |
| 1 | Access to sex is a terrible reason to form any serious kind of relationshipSex is not called "the basic instinct" by accident. There are many sexless men on this planet and many men get sex only because they offer a marriage/LTR with all that goes with it. Saying that getting sex should not be the primary motivation behind a LTR is an ivory castle statement. I can guarantee you, that the West would be a pretty ugly shithole if only men who get sex would be f-boys from Tinder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/25 12:45 PM |
| 0 | Guys should be a bit gayer if they wanna get laidYou probably listened to a lot of red pill gurus who claim you just need to be jacked and rich (because it's eaiser to achieve) and then they get hair transplants, face surgeries, wear lifts and travel to countries with shorter people on average lol! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/25 12:44 PM |
| 3 | It doesn't make sense to ask women to lower their standardsWomen don't find 80 % of men average. They find 80 % "average at best". That's a massive difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/25 11:37 AM |
| 0 | "Women are happier single compared to men" is a case of extremely dishonest framingI'm in a relationship for almost 3 years now, enjoy a good sex life with my wife but I'm still horny as fuck towards other women because I have flashes from years of sleeping around prior to that. And I'm 38. I don't think I'm weird, just not afraid to say out loud. And what makes it harder is the fact I was able to retain my looks and I look younger than 38 and get choosing signals from women around 28. It's basically a constant test of will and moral principles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/25 10:26 AM |
| 2 | "Women are happier single compared to men" is a case of extremely dishonest framingBecause a lot of men can only fuck a tree with a hole, unless they resort to paid sex. And I'm not talking about some ogrish looking bottom 10 % of male population. When a man who is percentile 80 among male population in his age brackett is willing to fuck a woman who's let's say percentile 40 in the same age brackett (ofc only for a cheap hook-up, he won't invest any time and resources and that's the positive aspect of such a notch) a guy who is percentile 45 will have to resort to trees with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/25 10:21 AM |
| – | Exposure is by far the most important thing for success with Women, and its more important then any other metric by far. If you have high exposure u cant fail with woman.Btw. what OP does not understand is how non-linear attraction is. I'd even say, that a hot dude with a law firm is 100x more "valuable" (or more attractive) than an average looking waiter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/25 11:31 AM |
| 4 | Female sexuality is the ONE human impulse where society collectively pretends that the instinctive preferences are perfectly optimal.Actually, 1950s were more affected by normative standards than 2025. Women trying to hook up and date with who they consider to be top men is a more natural state of affairs than some looks-match concept. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/25 12:27 PM |
| 0 | Female sexuality is the ONE human impulse where society collectively pretends that the instinctive preferences are perfectly optimal.A 31 yo man who looks good and is generally attractive is not considered too old by most women in their early 20s. When a young girl tells you that you are too old at 31, you probably just aren't attractive to her and this is an excuse. If women reject you "based on your age" at 31, their biggest issue still may be the fact they don't consider you attractive. And if being Asian was the reason at 21, it's going to be a reason at 31 as well. But it's hard differentiate if it's only because you are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/25 12:20 PM |
| 10 | Most women are not telling the full truth when it comes to the reasons they don't approach.Good for you but internet is full women who brag about not being approached anymore and the translation is "I'm not getting approached by the minority of men I consider attractive". If she's unhappy about that, she can be more proactive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 03:28 PM |
| 1 | Is dating in Europe via dating apps better for men?Over the years, I've met couple of these groups of British women about to puke from booze in Dublin, Prague and even on Cyprus. I'm good looking but far from what British women usually are attracted to because I have strawberry blonde hair and I'm rather pale. From what I observed, British women are a lot into Mediterranean men or at last men with dark hair and maybe a slightly darker skin tone. Despite all that, I got pretty explicit sex offer, to the point that if I would have behaved like tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/25 01:36 PM |
| 1 | Is dating in Europe via dating apps better for men?*creatures If I'd be a betting man, I'd never say that Japanese have more sexual partners than the Brits. They literally dream about sexual robots and have catastrophic natality rates. Young British women travel around Europe in groups and their mission is to get drunk and hook up. I'm not saying women from other countries in Europe don't do that but women from the UK are really taking this to another level. In big cities as well as sea resorts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 09:52 PM |
| 4 | Is dating in Europe via dating apps better for men?To a certain extent I disagree. Sure, the UK has its fair share of trashy men but on average, they have decent faces, are reasonably tall and especially Gen Z works out quite a lot compared to some other European nations. They are far from having the best style but the physical attributes are decent. On the other hand, women are fat, horrendously overpainted in the face and often lack natural femininity. British men are faaaaaaar more popular among women from other nations than British women and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 04:37 PM |
| 4 | Is dating in Europe via dating apps better for men?UK is the place where compared to the global competition very good looking men chase very subpar looking women. When you talk about Caucasian/Black/something in between Brits. At the same time, British women are probably the most slutiest female cratures on this planet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 04:28 PM |
| 1 | Newsflash: Even IF women approached more, not a whole lot would really change.My guess is you have above average facial fundaments, you're quite tall and maybe you have a solid frame. So even when you were overweight (I guess not obese) or skinny, you had the basic goods that women like. My experience is that looks and physical attractiveness are absolutely essential. When I was 18, I was less attractive both absolutely against all men and relatively against my peers compared to when I was 25 or 30. It wasn’t a drastic difference but it wasn’t insignificant. It was big en… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 09:55 AM |
| 1 | Most men never have a sexual primeFor many men "prime" is "women are disgusted by the thought of sex slightly less than ten years later". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/25 01:37 PM |
| -1 | Men should NOT be so forthcoming or honest about their intentions despite how much women claim they shouldMany men who don't have the fundaments to get casual sex or could get casual sex from an average woman but not a hot woman play this relationship pretending game. They pretend (without saying it out loud) they are interested in a relationship with a woman and hope they will get sex soon enough so that they allocate only reasonable amount of time and money to that purpose. Women are often aware of that and then it becomes a "who blinks first game". If the man wins, he gets his notch and then stop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/25 12:28 PM |
| 4 | Newsflash: Even IF women approached more, not a whole lot would really change.Sorry, there are still some guys who actually think this nonsense is true. Just be a short ugly guy with narrow shoulders, make muscle mass, and you'll be a instant womanizer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/25 10:38 AM |
| 2 | Newsflash: Even IF women approached more, not a whole lot would really change.Never would have happened if she had been looking at dating apps. Dating apps are based on exactly the same principle. Men often think that it's black or white between "women swipe left – they don't care / women swipe right – they should suck my dick in 3 hours". Take a hypothetical 25 yo female on Tinder. She makes 300 swipes in a swiping session. She swipes left on 275 men. She swipes right on 25 men. Let's say she's average. Out of the 25 men she swiped right on, 13 swiped right on her. She h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/25 10:36 AM |
| 4 | Newsflash: Even IF women approached more, not a whole lot would really change.Any man can get that. They just have to commit a lot of time to the gym, go out a lot, have women centered hobbies, know how to play the game, good social skills, basically be a pickup artist plus look great. Oh my god, you've learned that from some red pill guru on the internet? Or if that was sarcasm, then I apologise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/25 10:10 AM |
| – | Its not “Alpha Fucks Beta Bucks” for women to change their priorities over time.I still found her quite attractive but I learned that it's extremely rare that women suddenly became physically attracted to men they weren't before. And I say physically for a reason because I didn't want to be relevant for her only because in the meanwhile I was able to build a solid professional career while at 22 I obviously had jack s**t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/25 10:22 PM |
| 2 | Its not “Alpha Fucks Beta Bucks” for women to change their priorities over time.No, I certainly didn't have resources nor the mentality to be a betabuxer. I didn't have problem because she wasn't interested when we were 22. I know attraction is non-negotiable. What I had problem with is how she thought I'm gonna just ignore the past and be the idiot who gives her stability after she had her fun with guys she found more attractive in her prime. Because make no mistake, even though I was probably more physically attractive at 34 and she was certainly less attractive at 34 com… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/25 10:27 PM |
| 5 | Its not “Alpha Fucks Beta Bucks” for women to change their priorities over time.She wasn't interested when we were 22 but then swiped right on me when we were 34. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/25 10:19 PM |
| 3 | Its not “Alpha Fucks Beta Bucks” for women to change their priorities over time.Men have pride and they don't want to be seen as substitutes or means of stability. I remember how when I was about 34 I got a Tinder like from one woman I used to hit on in my early 20s and she wasn't interested. She still looked decent but I had zero interest in being a beta buxer for her when other women, sometimes much younger, saw me as genuinely attractive and their behaviour was a proof. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/25 06:02 PM |
| 1 | Its not “Alpha Fucks Beta Bucks” for women to change their priorities over time.And these women also often ty harder with guys they consider relatively hotter among men than they are among women. Unless the woman is below threshold of what makes a man's dick hard, most go for an easy sex, when offered. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/25 05:39 PM |
| – | What particular thing do you think would make the dating world a lot easier if men understood better?But it's a massive prize for men and you're not going to convince them otherwise only because women don't see it that way. Both genders have a different biological setting and live in a different social reality. Because men can get less of what they want more and women can get more of what they want less (even though a lot of them want it as well), the personal experiences are totally different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/25 09:35 AM |
| – | What particular thing do you think would make the dating world a lot easier if men understood better?Welcome to the male world. Thanks to the dynamics on the sexual market many men don't have the luxury to sleep with someone they like in terms of their character or personality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/25 09:31 AM |
| – | What particular thing do you think would make the dating world a lot easier if men understood better?Some men fuck women they aren't attracted to because it's the only way to have sex without sex workers involved Some men fuck with women they maybe are not totally repulsed by but are certainly less attracted to because these women often compensate with the sex and all sorts of kinks that more attractive women refuse to participate in. Among my male social circle there was always this saying for less attractive/ugly women – and yeah, it's extremely sexist – "she has to do everything". I don't I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/25 09:29 AM |
| – | What particular thing do you think would make the dating world a lot easier if men understood better?The problem is that men who fuck women they aren't attracted to (but they are attractive for women) usually aren't those, who cannot get jack shit because they are average at best and their looks matches and even less attractive women are getting pumped by good looking man whores who just have fun from fucking everything with a hole. I know a guy who's probably more convetionally attractive for most women and some of his notches were women I wouldn't touch even during my longest dry spells when … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/25 09:25 AM |
| – | How often woman tell other woman that they have unrealistic expectations in Dating?Despite of what the female Reddit cohort says, only an absolute minority of women are happy being single once they get to a certain age. Especially when they are childless. For them being single is the lesser evil compared to settling for someone. Fair enough, I have zero issues with that. I only laugh at how they always try to claim it's their own decision. Yes and no. They decided to be single because men who they would commit to don't fancy getting into relationship with them. I always joke t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/25 02:41 PM |
| – | Despite what the internet says, money doesn’t help a man much in datingIt was like that in 2010 Europe already. I remember one of the students at the university who was rather short and barely average looking always used to be comically overdressed. Like going to a lecture with in a smart casual with blazer, having a full suit at a college party etc. The more he tried, the more he basically became a meme amongst female students who avoided him like a plague. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/25 02:20 PM |
| – | Despite what the internet says, money doesn’t help a man much in datingSince you're by all accounts a very intelligent guy, it was just about time you woke to the reality. I'm 38, live in Europe and even when I was a college student, it was always looks before money. Female students who had relationships with 30 something well off guys were cheating on them with hot male students when they got the chance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/25 02:13 PM |
| 1 | Men should only bother dating women who would theoretically hookup with themNot happily, you'd just stay single :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 01:20 PM |
| 2 | It's not going to get betterYou really think that after kids no. 2, 3, 4 etc. they somehow aren't aware of the pattern that when you nut into a woman's vagina during a certain part of the month you end up getting her pregnant? They WANT to have these kids. It's not a matter of having willingly 2-3 kids and then just having 4 more by accident lol! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 01:19 PM |
| 1 | Men should only bother dating women who would theoretically hookup with themIt's a coinflip between being lonely and being honest to themselves / avoid not being respected in a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 01:07 PM |
| 1 | Men should only bother dating women who would theoretically hookup with themOne of my best friends lives in a more or less dead bedroom marriage. He's 38, has a 4 yo kid and his wife is 30. What I'm going to say now is cruel but that situation is a result of him overestimating himself. He's an attorney, makes a lot of money and he's also from a wealthy family. He started to date his current wife when he was like 27 and she was 19. In all honestly, he's far from attractive. 5'7–5'8, severely balding, slightly babyfaced. His wife is probably an inch taller than him and ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 01:05 PM |
| 1 | Men should only bother dating women who would theoretically hookup with themMy current relationship lasting almost 3 years is a product of a hook up, then casual sex and then a relationship. And I love that dynamics because I know that my girlfriend is genuinely attracted to me. We got to know each other more as time went by and realised that we like each other to the point where we form a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 12:49 PM |
| 1 | Men should only bother dating women who would theoretically hookup with themIf you are only dating the calibre of men you would hook up with who also have the "relationship" qualities, that gives you a bloody small portfolio to work with, given what percentage of men are attractive for an average woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 12:44 PM |
| 1 | Men should only bother dating women who would theoretically hookup with themIs this "nice guy deadbedroom relationship" more of a thing for older people, and I have just not been exposed to these dynamics yet? Don't know how old you are but it's indeed related to older people. Why? Because when women are young, unless they want to find a serious LTR at the age of 22, they date much more based on physical attractiveness. And also – whether they know it or not – often find themselves in a rotation of maybe not super handsome but still above average looking men. Then they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 12:42 PM |
| 5 | It's not going to get better"We need less people in the future". Haha, go and tell that to people living in the biggest shitholes this planet has to offer where drought and famine are a permanent state of affairs. What are you going to do? Force them? Educate them? Motivate them? Absolutely useless. Only thing that will prevent for example some African regions from having 6-7 children per woman on average is people having better standard of living. That ain't gonna happen. We just need to accept the fact that it's not our … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 12:22 PM |
| 1 | Men are not approaching women as much anymore and that's a good thing.A vast majority of women wants to be approached by men but only those who they consider worthy. In their eyes being approached by a balding 5'9 guy with a chubby face means not being approached at all. Because unattractive men are simply invisible and don't count. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/25 09:23 AM |
| 3 | Is it true that men want monogamy and family more than women, or is that a false narrative here?Men with the abundance of options are less interested in monogamy than women up until a certain age. Younger average and below-average men instinctively see monogamy as a tool that will bring them leverage on the dating market (due to sheer statistics). That's the main reason they are so vocal about these values. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/25 03:19 PM |
| 6 | 4 Types Of Men Over 30OP somehow thinks that a man over 30 who got into a LTR with a woman who obviously had previous sexual partners is automatically unhappy. It almost seems as some idiotic "female virgin purity" projection. The only problem is getting into a relationship with a female who sees you lesser than her hook-ups but they were unaffordable for more than sex and you bring stability. Yeah, a lot of men in that position will be miserable. But as a man you need to assess your situation and the reasons why any… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/25 09:44 AM |
| 1 | Don’t be upset you didn’t get a hook up when you pretended you wanted a relationship.1) Many guys use pretending to seek a relationship as a tool to get a hook up after some 3-4 dates if possible. Unless it's too expensive in terms of time and resources. 2) On the other hand, sexual compatibility is a basic demand for most men. And you can only check that by having sex with the woman. Many relationships are product of a hook up. For example my current LTR and soon to me marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/25 11:01 AM |
| – | We should start telling people when they are younger you aren't guaranteed a relationshipI consider myself a "late bloomer" but I attribute maybe like a 90 % of my success since early-mid 20s to being more physically attractive compared to the time when I was 18. More muscle, more masculine/structured face, fixed some flaws like acne and moles and even grew additional inch and a half. My personality was still the same and even career-wise I had zero to little progress. I graduated at 24 with Masters on a good university but first 2 years I was stuck with dead end jobs for people wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/25 09:12 AM |
| 7 | Do men genuinely want to return to traditional gender roles ?The most brutal gender aspect of the war on Ukraine is that women were allowed to leave not because they are some soft flowers too weak to carry a gun or serve as a non-combatant/civilian personal. They were seen as biologically the more valuable gender for the preservation of the nation. You only have as much kids as much women are giving birth. That's the theory. I alternatively live in two European countries. Both have a shit ton of refugees from Ukraine. Mostly women. I can tell you, especia… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/25 01:42 PM |
| 2 | Do men genuinely want to return to traditional gender roles ?Most men don't give a shit about symbolism of the "provider" role. Those who insist on preserving it are usually men who need it as a leverage in order to be visible on the dating market. And that's quite a vast group of fellas, as data from dating apps, social media or even academic research show. I strongly believe that maybe the majority of that 70 % sees no value in the provider role per se. If they could press a magic button and become something like a top 3 % men in terms of physical attra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/25 01:25 PM |
| – | Men’s attraction vs. women’s attraction it’s not the same thingEvery man gives a shit about looks. It's all levels. Super top guys can pick top women for hook ups. Good looking men but not flat out models can get let's say average and slightly above average women for hook-ups and hot women for a relationship. Guys who are still somewhat decent but less attractive than men from group 2 can get unattractive women for hook-ups and average maybe even slightly above average women for a relationship. But because men have a very high sex drive, a hook-up is much c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/25 09:45 AM |
| – | Men’s attraction vs. women’s attraction it’s not the same thingI'd argue on the details of some of these points but generally you're right. Before I created my Reddit profile (I was already almost 37) I somehow though that this is more or less common knowledge for every man in the West above 23, maybe 25 at maximum. But when I saw some of the discussions I realised how many men still don't get that concept. But I think the number is increasing week by week, so one day we may live in a society without delusion when it comes to inter-gender dynamics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/25 09:32 AM |
| – | "Just talk to women as people" and its even worse when you realize they genuinely like you as a person, yet none of them sees you "that way"I'm not sure about the social proof. Social proof is women knowing other women have SEXUAL interest in you. Being considered a friend by other women is usually worthless (ofc most women would deny it). Because women know very well that friendship and sexual attraction are two totally different things. I knew guys who had exactly this mindset 10 or 15 years ago. Having a ton of photos with women, often hot, posting them on Facebook and trying to fool other women that these chicks on photos consid… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/25 04:03 PM |
| – | "Just talk to women as people" and its even worse when you realize they genuinely like you as a person, yet none of them sees you "that way"That's a good analysis but I'd only be careful with making assumptions that women are primarily trying to hurt men. The main reason why women get so angry when they are approached by men they see as unworthy is that it's a deep blow to their ego. They are hurt by it. "How can this loser think he has a chance with me? Am I really so bad looking?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/25 09:19 AM |
| – | "Just talk to women as people" and its even worse when you realize they genuinely like you as a person, yet none of them sees you "that way"Yeah but the sexual attractiveness is a basic fundament for falling in love with someone and getting very close with someone over the years. It's basically the gatekeeper so your 5–10 % valuation is just wrong. But women do this all these time. With men they consider physically attractive, they take it as granted and gush over how amazing they are personality-wise. Put that same personality into a body of an ugly short man and you feel nothing. Maybe consider him a pity friend and give him bad a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/25 08:50 AM |
| – | "Just talk to women as people" and its even worse when you realize they genuinely like you as a person, yet none of them sees you "that way"Between the ages of 18 and let's say 25 my overall looks improved. Not drastically but from a dead average guy at best I became an above average looking guy – height, body and face. And women started to see me much more as a sexual object compared to my 18 years old 1,5 inches shorter, less muscular, more baby-faced version with acne and moles and a rather fluffy face. I was lucky to be kind of a late bloomer but because I wasn't considered particularly attractive in my teens, I could witness th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/25 08:42 AM |
| – | "Just talk to women as people" and its even worse when you realize they genuinely like you as a person, yet none of them sees you "that way"Ugly women still feel some kind of demand. It's called dating MARKET for a reason. The principles are same as how we analyze the economy. The value of a commodity is estimated by the level of demand. And especially in a hook-up environment the value of an unattractive woman is much bigger than the value of an unattractive man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/25 08:34 AM |
| – | "Just talk to women as people" and its even worse when you realize they genuinely like you as a person, yet none of them sees you "that way"I never formed a relationship with a woman I was a "friend" with. I never had sex with a woman I was a "friend" with. Last time I had a female "friend" I was about 22 and ofc I wanted to fuck her and became friendzoned. Ever since then, I had zero female "friends". I had and have a great relationship with some of the female co-workers I met over the years but I'd never call it a friendship. A lot of men who have these so called female friends and all these photos with girls on Facebook usually d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/25 08:28 AM |
| – | Is it true that women view average-sized guys as small?You don't understand what I'm saying. I'm actually enjoy that you are being honest. I think that for most women 6-7 is somewhat of an ideal size they prefer the most. I just have to laugh at how you try to frame as you don't like big dicks when 7 inches pretty far from an average penis. Maybe your friends are bit of a size queens and just cherry pick between men who are known to have above average sizes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/25 12:08 PM |
| – | Is it true that women view average-sized guys as small?This is a comedy gold answer. You basically try to claim you don't like big penises saying a monster 99,999 percentile penis was too much while claiming that 7 - 7,5 is the "optimal sizeL. 7-7,5 with a standard girth is something like top 5-7 % in the West and maybe like a top 2 % worldwide. It's pretty far from average anywhere in the world. But I like the honesty, this is actually a case study of female behavour when it comes to this topic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/25 09:20 AM |
| – | Is it true that women view average-sized guys as small?Women don't care about math and averages. They remember the size they liked the most and then compare. And because for most women such size is above average, they subconsciously feel like average is sub-optimal without either knowing what the average size is nor what is the size of a given guy is. It's just a typical female Redditor moment – they don't lie when they say they don't carry a tape and measure dicks. But in the end they lie in what they claim compared to what is factually true. Or th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/25 09:11 AM |
| 1 | So, if women are truly only attracted to 1% of men, they can't help it and they shouldn't be shamedI'm 38 so unlike many people on Reddit I remember what dating in 2000s was about. Not early but let's say mid-2000s. On a high school level, the dating scene was exactly like it's now in the whole society. Few male sex magnets who ran through multiple girls and for these chicks getting piped by these guys was basically a matter of prestige. Some guys able to grind out a kind of a relationship and a lot of guys getting nothing. I’m talking about Europe but that's more or less the same as in the U… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/25 08:51 AM |
| 5 | So, if women are truly only attracted to 1% of men, they can't help it and they shouldn't be shamedIt's not a brain rot. It's their natural programming enabled through new socioeconomic reality. Men cope like crazy by saying that women were naturally different 100 or even 50 years ago only because they didn't have the option they have now. All of these good housewifes who current men believe were madly in love with their partners dreamed about guys like Henry Fonda and Clint Eastwood. But they didn't have their own money, society much less tolerated female promiscuity and there was no Tinder … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/25 01:56 PM |
| – | Attraction is the first thing women have to sacrificeJust for the record, I'm almost sure you are not European. Americans and men from other parts of the world have this funny idea about Scandinavian women looking like these few pornstars they saw on the internet 20 years ago – blond hair, blue eyes and stunning looks, while an averege Swede, Norwegian or Dane looks nothing like this. Blond hair and light yes – yes, more then anywhere else in the world. But add masculine faces, often overweight and stupid haircuts with short hair even at a younger… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/25 03:22 PM |
| – | Attraction is the first thing women have to sacrificeI know, OP obviously says it how it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/25 02:52 PM |
| – | Attraction is the first thing women have to sacrificePeople who downvote the truth are either women who spend their Reddit time gaslighting because they instinctively fear that if majority of society will realise these dynamics it will threaten first their moral high ground and then even their position within the society. And also men who are just coping, denying the truth and get angry when confronted with the reality. These two groups are big enough to set the voting tone in many threads. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/25 02:01 PM |
| – | Attraction is the first thing women have to sacrificeBiology and evolution itself are a reflection of capitalist values. Men – despite sooner or later settling with one woman – go more for quantity when they have the potential. Women go for quality and the funny part of the equation is that they can get more attractive men for casual sex than for relationship. This dynamic creates an environment where dating is hard for a lot of men and getting sex without further preconditions is even harder for a lot of men. You said you lived in China. So did I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/25 01:51 PM |
| – | Attraction is the first thing women have to sacrificeFunny enough, some of the requirements that are believed to make women more hot – nails, "duck lips" etc. are not making them look better in my eyes. But these women are certainly less fat, have longer hair on average and more feminine faces by default compared to women from Western and Northern Europe so they look much better on average even without these procedures. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/25 12:54 PM |
| – | Attraction is the first thing women have to sacrificeI'm partly Scandinavian, partly Western Slavic from a country that was behind the Iron Curtain, so even though geographically Central Europe, on the West/East divide it’s still Eastern Europe. I've lived and still live in both countries. Beside that I've studied and worked abroad, even on other continents, so I have quite an idea. I've seen a lot of Russian couples and generally met a lot of Russians before the war. Thankfully not so much nowadays but I don't want to talk about that now. It was … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/25 12:52 PM |
| – | Attraction is the first thing women have to sacrifice1) You were seen as attractive because Asian women overall have lower standards for what kind of white men they consider genuinely attractive. I'm above average looking in Europe as well but still nowhere near good looking to be looked at the way I was in Asia. I turned on Tinder and got over 100 likes in less than 24 hours. Even in places like Hong Kong and Singapore, where no one would even hypothetically care about my money or wealth. 2) Cultures where there's either a flat out patriarchy or … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/25 12:34 PM |
| – | Attraction is the first thing women have to sacrificeThank you, that's basically what I've been saying my whole life and got downvoted for in this subreddit over and over again. Nice to hear from a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/25 12:23 PM |
| – | Why do you judge men who pay for sex way more harshly than women who have casual hookups, one night stands & FWB?As I said in one of my previous posts, the biggest womanizer I ever met had sex with few hookers during his life. And would bet my tennis rackets that since he literally looks like a 6'2 Alain Delon, if he ever somehow decided that he'll commit to this female Redditer and revealed that he had sex with a few hookers in 2012, she wouldn't even blink. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/25 12:15 PM |
| – | Why do you judge men who pay for sex way more harshly than women who have casual hookups, one night stands & FWB?Tbf a cum bucket is still better than no affection and for women it's often even more about ego boost than the sex itself. Even if some woman in that position heard some of the locker room banter with stuff like "I fucked her from behind so I didn't have to see her face" (as a man I've heard stuff like that many times) if the man is hot enough in her eyes, it's still a validation. "Maybe I'm not good looking but still good enough for him to fuck me". But I agree with the argument above. I always… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/25 12:06 PM |
| – | Why do you judge men who pay for sex way more harshly than women who have casual hookups, one night stands & FWB?That's what I tried to say. If a man is considered a loser, paying for sex is only another feature that contributes to him beeing seen a loser. If a man is attractive and he decides to pay for sex due to some of the reasons I mentioned above he's not seen as a loser. Yet there is an army of hypocrites regardless of gender who claim there is a direct causality between men paying for sex and being losers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/25 11:51 AM |
| – | Why do you judge men who pay for sex way more harshly than women who have casual hookups, one night stands & FWB?Yeah but I'm talking about men who aren't willing to pair with a woman that hasn't got much to offer outside of sex. I know a few guys who are in this situation and they are no losers career-wise. They are just physically unattractive and that limits their options. They don't mind their partners are not good looking, because neither are they. But these women don't share any of their hobbies or/and are just simpletons. And honestly I can see paying for hookers as a lesser evil. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/25 10:59 AM |
| – | Why do you judge men who pay for sex way more harshly than women who have casual hookups, one night stands & FWB?In my life (and I'm 38) I've met two categories of men that used hookers for their service: Basically losers who were physically unattractive, not making much money but had enough to pay every now and then for something they were deprived of. Successful men, sometimes even physically attractive. They usually had a wife or an LTR but either they weren't satisfied with their sexual life or they just couldn't resist the urging to sleep with different women. And they considered sex workers as the sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/25 10:54 AM |
| – | Why do you judge men who pay for sex way more harshly than women who have casual hookups, one night stands & FWB?The logic is that every woman who participates in prostitution is a victim of trafficking, abuse, beatings and has her passport taken away by pimps. As someone who studied on university between 2006–2012 mostly in a Central European country and found out how female students who were living quite a luxurious life for their age and social setting worked as a prostitutes, I have to laugh. I'm not denying that some women in that industry are backed against the wall. But to say that about someone, wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/25 10:38 AM |
| – | Why do you judge men who pay for sex way more harshly than women who have casual hookups, one night stands & FWB?OP wrote about casual sex. More men can get sex but they need to enter relationships. That's quite a emotional, financial and time burden for 15 minutes of fun. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/25 10:30 AM |
| 0 | They are trying to convince us that women are happier single and childless when almost all rich women get married.Yeah, sure. You've read it on Reddit, am I right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/25 12:09 PM |
| 1 | Do women understand their own "size" preferences? (Video included)I've met a few women who claimed they "never seen that size" (and I'm almost exactly 6.3), usually in Asia and to say they didn't complain once we started would be and understatement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/25 12:07 PM |
| 1 | Do women understand their own "size" preferences? (Video included)Yeah, Reddit is the only place on Earth where women prefer men with 4 inch dicks, 5'7 tall and average faces lol! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/25 12:02 PM |
| 2 | Do women understand their own "size" preferences? (Video included)You're right. I'm on the lower side of that interval with a 5.4 girth. I always knew I'm probably above average but based on some online calculator I've been told that I'm top 20 % in the West, top 5 % globally and maybe like a top 1-2 % in the East. It was a bit shocking to me, because obviously I'm not "pornstar size" frankly speaking. But over the years, I've been told many times that I have a “perfect-sized d”. Usually the description was "big enough but not too big". But what's most relevan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/25 12:00 PM |
| -3 | They are trying to convince us that women are happier single and childless when almost all rich women get married.I've being saying this for years so it's refreshing to see this in a post from a woman. It goes like this: Women are genuinely attracted only to a minority of men. In a monogamous society, there aren't enough attractive men to form LTRs with all women. Women (bar the really unattractive) can sleep around with attractive men who are not willing to settle for them. Vast majority of women have maternal instinct that start to kick in sooner or later. But only a handful have the resources and courage… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/25 12:12 PM |
| 2 | Why do you guys insist that a woman's income and career doesn't matter, while also complaining about women "settling" for stable providers?Physical attractiveness is a very strong equalizer for social status and money. Most professionally accomplished or/and wealthy women won't commit to a hot man who's a total fuck up. They can sleep with him no problem but won't commit. But a lot of women are more than happy to form LTRs and marriages with physically attractive hot men who are not above them the on the social ladder but on their level or slightly below. It's more and more common. Genes are also an asset as well as salary or a car… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/25 01:15 PM |
| – | Dating is insanely inequal and unfair for men, yet no one’s adressing it even though it affects fundamental humanPost number 54845 complaning about what is and isn't fair. This unfairness stems from the natural set of affairs. How men were hardwired and how women were hardwired. By biology and by evolution. Life isn't fair by nature. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/25 10:25 AM |
| – | Men are perceived as "overrating" themselves because women have a lesser tolerance for biodiversity in men, ie, height, hair color, eye color, physiqueBecause physical features associated with east Asians are considered less attractive on men, while more attractive or at least neutral on women. Shorter men are universally considered less attractive, regardless of race. Men with less structured faces are universally considered less attractive. Men with light eyes are universally considered more attractive. Men with a smaller frame or no muscle are considered less attractive unless they're tall etc. On the other, unless women is super short, a v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/25 09:14 AM |
| – | Men are perceived as "overrating" themselves because women have a lesser tolerance for biodiversity in men, ie, height, hair color, eye color, physiqueHe's right but you need all other features to be in place: a really handsome face, probably a bit more muscular body than taller guys without affecting your facial features, good hair etc. The problem is that genes often come in a certain package and usually you don't see a guy with a top 5 % face being attached to a 5'6 body. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/25 09:05 AM |
| – | Men are perceived as "overrating" themselves because women have a lesser tolerance for biodiversity in men, ie, height, hair color, eye color, physiqueYou don't need any study how men rate women and women rate men to show how women tend to be attracted to much more narrow set of traits than vice versa, making the pool of men genuinely physically attractive to women much smaller than vice versa. The sooner men realise and accept this reality, together with the fact that attraction is non-negotiable, the sooner than can be in peace with themselves or adapt and improve when they have the right potential. A guy who’s 5 inches shorter than the aver… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/25 09:01 AM |
| 0 | Men want women to settle for themMale loneliness is men being deprived of sex and basically any romantic interaction with women. It affects them in their late teens and twenties. Women are deprived of enough men they are attracted to and at the same time these men are willing to form a relationship with them. Yes, they can get sex anytime they want and when they are proactive and send dirty messages to men they can get sex from way more attractive men than their looksmatches. Female loneliness will start to kick in much later i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/25 10:11 AM |
| 5 | Are alpha widows becoming more common?"Being single is better than being in an unhappy relationship with someone you're not attracted to or interested in." I guess you're right but the way many of these women pretend they are happily single when in reality they were just sent to be single by men they find attractive not being interested for a LTR with them is rather funny. Then they see their friends having kids and regardless what so many women on Reddit claim, the maternal instincts start to kick in. I'm 38 and some of the women a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 03:57 PM |
| 2 | The avg guy should decenter women or work hard to not be avgThanks for the insult but I'm pretty happy with where I am for the last maybe 10 years or so. Obviously I earn more money in my late 30s than in my late 20s and I'm able to stay physically in shape but I wouldn't call that any obsessive self-improvement, more like a natural progress combined with the effort to preserve the physical goods. I'm just trying to frame this self-improvement mania that is so prevalent on the internet and come up with some objective evaluation. I know a guy who tried so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 12:10 PM |
| 6 | Are alpha widows becoming more common?Men cope like hell but THE ONE BIGGEST cope pronounced constantly by women is that they are happily single when in reality the majority of them would kill for a relationship and a family with a worthy man. But the math is simple – there is much more women than attractive men and we still live in a predominantly monogamous society. This argument is basically the female equivalent of men who are betabuxers claiming that money, social status and financial stability had no effect on them locking the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 11:54 AM |
| 18 | The avg guy should decenter women or work hard to not be avgNowadays there's a shit ton of men who not only postpone relationships but they basically avoid any romantic contact with women and only try to "build themselves up". It's a colossal mistake. Not only a lot of men will not reach any significant success even in their mid-30s. Even when they do, they usually get brutally played by vastly more experiences women. A lot of these guys find themselves in a situation where they don't even know how to seduce a woman and how to escalate. The truth is brut… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 11:13 AM |
| 2 | The avg guy should decenter women or work hard to not be avgThe principle of being average, above average or below average is always based on a relative comparison. If one man maximises his potential – good for him, he moves on the attractiveness scale. If everyone does it, they achieve nothing (beside improving their health). Once every man has a 13 % body fat and reasonable amount of muscle, women will consider it a norm and in order to have attractive body you will have to look like Cristiano Ronaldo. So being tall and handsome will have the same impo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 10:34 AM |
| – | why do men hate sluts so much, instead of just feeling neutral?Attractive men don't hate sluts they just do want to end up in a relationship with them. Unattractive men don’t like them because they don't reap the "benefits" out of certain group of women being promiscuous. In my European country, there’s a saying: "You know, what's the difference between a whore and the biggest whore? Whore fucks with everyone. Biggest whore fucks with everyone but not with you." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/25 01:22 PM |
| 3 | Why don't women like hearing a lot of men's attractiveness is outside of their control?I cannot answer directly but you have to ask men to get genuine answer for such a question: Women are scarred of the societal, political and economic implications of a significant group of men awakening to the fact that they were basically born to be unattractive/undesired. Women want and need a society where men not only think they have a chance to get a relationship but they can fool themselves it's not about material incentives but pure physical attraction. That's reason number 1 and reason n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/25 11:07 AM |
| 2 | Manly, masculine and high testosterone doesn't automatically translate to attractive to women.For slim, tall is a must. For athletic, average height is a must. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/25 04:51 PM |
| 2 | Most relationships between men and women are not genuine.When the man is considered attractive enough, Western women often can form a partnership with someone who does not have more money or higher salary. But statistically only a minority of men is being considered physically attractive by women so in a vastly monogamous society women need to settle down with men they don't genuinely desire. Ofc based on opinions of female Redditors, modern women "never settle with such a guy" but the numbers and the real world say otherwise. Being faced with the pro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/25 11:31 AM |
| 3 | Most relationships between men and women are not genuine.It is still often a preference, although not as common as 30 years ago. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/25 11:19 AM |
| – | Most women who say they are sapio sexual are not actually sapiosexual.Intelligence per se is not that attractive overall. But it’s easier for an intelligent man to hold a conversation with an intelligent woman, therefore it’s easier for him to seduce her. And it’s easier to spend time aside from having sex with a person who can hold a decent conversation, therefore it’s easier to be in a relationship with such a person. On the other hand, when most women say they find intelligent men attractive, they mean street smart. Because it’s a tool for having money and stat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/25 09:40 AM |
| 13 | Anytime a woman is giving a dating advice for men, that advice only works for men who don't need it.My experience is that women actually can give a reasonable advice or can describe what they are attracted to but somehow either on purpose or subconsciously fail to mention some crucial pre-existing conditions that somehow eliminate a lot of men from that given group from the get go. I knew a woman who said she had a think for „slim men with longer hair”. I remember about 4 guys she either dated or slept with and yes, they all were slim and had longer hair. But as one would think, they were all … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/25 09:36 AM |
| 4 | Anytime a woman is giving a dating advice for men, that advice only works for men who don't need it.Men are women are both shallow but women have more options (because of male behaviour hardwired by evolution) and due to evolution are attracted to a smaller pool of men the vice versa. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/25 09:14 AM |
| 2 | Anytime a woman is giving a dating advice for men, that advice only works for men who don't need it.One of the best comments in this subreddit for months. 100 % correct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/25 09:11 AM |
| 2 | Women gaslight men cause they are afraid of themWomen are not afraid of a specific man they meet in the public and tell him he's ugly and unattractive. But they are subconsciously afraid of a world where a vast group of male population knows they are not desired without further incentives. The evolution of society since the first half of the 20th century was very favourable towards women. And I'm not criticising it, just stating the facts. To the point where nowadays they have probably stronger position within society than man and they are ce… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/25 01:28 PM |
| – | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?Yes and they think that "musician" creates the variation while in reality "tall" is the main selecting factor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 11:10 AM |
| – | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?"No matter how ugly you are as a guy, there's at the very least a handful of women in the world that find your specific look and personality attractive." No offence but this is the most commonly cited error (I don't want to be expressive and say lie) that spreads around the internet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 11:09 AM |
| – | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?It's not a moral failing. It has nothing to do with morals. But what he said is true. The equivalent of a short ugly man (which is basically the worst combination) is a fat ugly woman. And while a lot of these men would realistically date such a counterpart I think a huge group of these women will never settle for men like that, regardless of how hideous they might be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 11:06 AM |
| – | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?Not being fat is within your control more than anything. Being bald is a problem, yet if you're tall or at least not short and somewhat in shape, you can live with it. Or you can try saving money for a hair transplant if you're not balding to the point of no return. Poor, again, somewhat within your control. Autistic is your biggest problem. You have still a bigger potential than men who are short and ugly. That's basically a death sentence on the dating market. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 10:59 AM |
| – | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?That's what women like to claim because they don't want a huge of men feel totally undesired. Yes, the overlap is not 100 % but is much bigger than what women say. Out of 100, the number of men neither of you or your 3 friends are attracted is not 10 but at least 40 and I'm very generous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 10:54 AM |
| – | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?And when you know what the reality looks like, why are you still trying to prove them wrong? She is right that every woman is roughly attracted to 20 % of men. The overlap is pretty big and there’s about 25 % of male population that is genuinely desired. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 10:45 AM |
| – | Why it's controversial when a man says "women are attracted to a small percentage of men" when women themselves agree with this statement in their spaces ?I'd say that out of 20 % of men you are attracted to, at least 80 % is universally attractive for a vast majority of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/25 10:08 AM |
| 1 | We are being psyoped into caring about declining birth rates.I always laugh at this retarded take when some individuals claim how there's too many people on this planet anyway and shrinking popullation is a good thing. That would a good thing in regions where you have one rainy day in a year, in exaggeration people have drink their own piss and they still manage to have 6-7 kids on average per one woman. And they are born into poverty be default. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/25 02:34 PM |
| 6 | How should average men pursue casual sex according to women?I love how so many women on Reddit still claim that they only want to have sex within a relationship. Because when you look at the hook-up environment, among people who are active you have a relative minority of men "servicing" more women. The reality is, women really search for LTRs more than men in the same age. Especially younger girls. But many women have zero problems hooking up with players while they are in a process of finding a long-term BF. Honestly, maybe a half of girls I ever hooked… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/25 09:34 AM |
| 3 | Before lamenting that you aren't getting hookups you should make sure that you are indeed hookup material.Having a 7-8 face and being 6'3 easily puts him well within top 10 % of men looks-wise. He's probably not fat because it's hard to have a 7-8 face and be fat. If he's somewhat athletic, he's more like a top 3 %. Because significantly above average tall guys with a somewhat above average face and above average body don't grow on trees. I’m 3 inches shorter, and even on a good day I wouldn’t rate my face 7,5. More like 6, maybe 6,5. I probably have a better body than this guy but still a man 3 inc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/25 11:31 AM |
| 1 | Before lamenting that you aren't getting hookups you should make sure that you are indeed hookup material.No offence but you totally underestimate how subconscious your confidence and therefore your personality is. Just trying to manipulate yourself into being confident is irrational and most people will see it's a fake confidence. You will never be truly confident unless you have the experience that makes you feel confident. I was kind of a late bloomer with how I peaked in terms of physical attractiveness. When I was 17-18, I was like a dead average at best. Then, partly through positive biologica… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/25 11:15 AM |
| 2 | Before lamenting that you aren't getting hookups you should make sure that you are indeed hookup material.From what I saw on the internet in recent years, most incels (and by that I don't mean used as slur by women but as a definition stemming from the original meaning) are angry rather because of constant gaslighting and virtue signalling, mainly from women. It's like pinching salt into their wounds. I think many men would be happy with a general acceptance that being unattractive is not always a matter of having a flawed personality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/25 10:30 AM |
| 1 | You should only be in a Romantic Relationship with someone if you are VERY Sexually Attracted to them - This applies especially to women.I strongly disagree. Yes, there could be a scenario where the man becomes much less attractive as time goes by (gets fat and it affects his face and body, bald or both) or has a medical condition. But the majority of dead bedrooms happens because the woman wasn't physically attracted to the man from the beginning. Or the attraction was rather mild and once he got fat and bald it vanished. But usually that guy is seen as a provider or in case of unattractive women, they cannot found anyone else f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/25 03:08 PM |
| – | Men had a harder time finding a mate before feminism.The 40-60 % era is like a tens of thousands of years. It's certainly ain't the last 100 or 200 years. When men say "before feminism", they usually mean last couple of centuries before the end of 20th century. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/25 11:01 AM |
| 2 | I think women don’t lower our standards because we are expected to act like we didn’t. Thoughts?No offence but when you say "big", you probably mean fat (sorry, I'm 38 and in my view "big" also means tall and many women who claim to be "big" are 5'3). Women like you usually have their preferences set on tall, strong and overall "big" men. It's logical, if a woman wants to feel feminine and she's 240 pounds, she will barely achieve that with a guy who's 5'10 and 170. The problem is that men who are tall and strong are universally considered attractive. And unless they are ugly they will hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/25 09:36 AM |
| -1 | I think women don’t lower our standards because we are expected to act like we didn’t. Thoughts?Tbf a lot of men can imitate the interest for a relationship just to get their dick wet for a long time and use a lot resources. Because they know that their only chance to get with a specific woman is through betabuxing. And when the woman gets an impression that this guy could be her provider and spreads her legs, the guy quits. Because the costs were too high and while he put a lot effort in the time span of weeks, maybe few months, he was never going to maintain the same output for years. I'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/25 09:13 AM |
| 1 | Sexual frustration seems to have very different meanings depending on whether it’s men or women talking about itSex before orgasm usually brings more pleasure to women than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/25 09:00 AM |
| 7 | CMV: Men shouldn't be preoccupied with spreading their genes or sowing their oats. It seems weird and grotesque to me.You are the smartest animal. But you are an animal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/25 02:46 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Men shouldn't be preoccupied with spreading their genes or sowing their oats. It seems weird and grotesque to me.Yeah, Sapolsky is surely an "edgy fascist", lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/25 02:42 PM |
| 2 | The narrative that "women are happily choosing to be single" makes ZERO sense when you look at the actual dataThese career oriented women around 40 or slightly older are a very specific demographic for forming a relationship. Not only they are physically attracted only to physically attractive men (basically like every woman, yet many men fail to understand). They also have high economic and social demands for a partner. The funny part about these feminist narratives is that I've seen over and over again, how even "strong independent women" usually fail to enter a relationship with a man who has less mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/25 11:54 AM |
| 2 | The narrative that "women are happily choosing to be single" makes ZERO sense when you look at the actual dataYeah, "MOST are married“ – I agree but that doesn’t mean I haven’t met enough of those who aren’t. "SEEM TO BE happy" – I agree on that "seem to be". How many professionally accomplished people, regardless of gender, will confess that their private live is shit? It’s pretty similar to professionally accomplished yet physically less attractive men who used their money and status to lock their wives. I know my share of these as well. First it’s all sunshine photos on social media, showing off thei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/25 02:38 PM |
| 3 | The narrative that "women are happily choosing to be single" makes ZERO sense when you look at the actual dataThey are not able to lock down a guy they hooked up with and he saw them only as another easy and cheap bang. They are not willing to settle for less attractive guys who would be willing to pair with them These two things go hand in hand. Since more and more women have no economic needs to form a relationship, more and more stay single. And despite so many women claiming they are "willingly" single, I'm sure 95+ % of these women would hop on the right ship. But these ships were either never in t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/25 01:01 PM |
| 1 | Do you actually lower sexual attraction when it comes to a guy you see as relationship material?Women are sexually stimulated by the looks of their sexual partner. So if two men make similar moves, have same penis but one is 6'2 and handsome and the other is 5'8 and ugly, ofc women will more enjoy sex with the first guy, they will more like have an orgasm etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/25 11:31 AM |
| – | The narrative that "women are happily choosing to be single" makes ZERO sense when you look at the actual dataWhen women are technically single, they usually are meeting their "friends" (usually beta orbiters) and their friends with benefits (sex). A lot of women who just sleep around with some guy who has no intention of forming a relationship also claim they are not single. In their eyes there are high hopes that’s already a relationship. The percentage of women who are really without any male contact is super low. On the other hand, a lot of single men nowadays have almost zero interactions with wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/25 11:04 AM |
| 3 | The hate on passport bros just proves that alot of women just dont want some men to be happyIf you live in some of the taller European countries and not Spain, you are probably around 13-14 cm shorter than the average man and something like 18-20 cm shorter than would women would most often state as a preferred height for a man. As a European, I unironically wish you good luck but it won't be easy. Having a handsome face will help a bit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/25 10:17 PM |
| 1 | Ironically, progressive women are still obsessed with status in menMaybe but I haven't seen the profile. It's funny, the guy told me he just wanted a quick bang and she was up for it. But because the sex was good he started to see her more frequently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/25 04:32 PM |
| 1 | Ironically, progressive women are still obsessed with status in menThey've met on Tinder just before covid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/25 10:54 AM |
| 6 | Ironically, progressive women are still obsessed with status in menI think that many successful career oriented women would actually date a man who's not a fuck up but makes less money. But under one condition – he would have to be physically attractive. So that they could present him as a kind of a "trophy" BF not in terms of his salary or status, but just being a fit, 6'3 guy with a handsome face. I've actually seen a marriage like that and funny enough it played out exactly as I expected. The guy (very attractive, middle class) fooled her (an average looking… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/25 09:57 AM |
| – | What are some secrets men dont tell women?When I was active on Tinder and somehow met a woman who gave me vibes she wants a relationship I used to reply to "what are you looking for" something like "well, I've just finished with a LTR I'm new on Tinder and I'm looking around". Even though I was barely in any LTR before in my life and I've been on Tinder for years, just hooking up for fun. Because of this reply I usually had both doors open and sometimes I was able to have sex with a woman who wanted a relationship. But even though women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/25 12:44 PM |
| – | What are some secrets men dont tell women?Surprise surprise, men are mostly attracted to looks not emotions. 95+ % of men don't give a flying fuck about how "emotionally mature" a 20 yo woman is when she has attractive feminine features. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/25 12:27 PM |
| 5 | You don't "deserve" to be treated like Chad because you aren't ChadWomen who can lock very attractive men for an LTR usually don’t need to boost their confidence because they are very good looking themselves and flooded by male attraction ever since they were like 15. Women who would boost their confidence out of the physical attractiveness of their husband or LTR partner usually don’t look as good and because very attractive men are scarce, there isn’t enough for average women to lock them as partners. Unless you have some weird gender reversed betabux scenari… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/25 09:09 PM |
| 2 | economy profits from male loneliness and benefits when men stay singleEnjoy your stunning and brave long life! Exposed a lot of men and fought against patriarchy by being childless. That's almost a Herculian effort lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/25 01:42 PM |
| 2 | economy profits from male loneliness and benefits when men stay singleYeah, they are the happiest demographic when they are 30. But not when they are 45. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/25 01:40 PM |
| 0 | economy profits from male loneliness and benefits when men stay singleExactly. I don't want to bash men who often have it hard due to factors out of their control. But engaging in a visible ragebait content created by women is peak idiocy. These guys fail in the survival of the fittest environment. Not because they are short and ugly but because they are idiots. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/25 01:37 PM |
| 4 | TRP’s “just lift bro” was never meant to mean “lift and literally do nothing else”The problem is that many men, especially on the shorter side, have this bizarre obsession with mass. They think that bulking up loads of muscles makes them more "dangerous" thus more masculine and attractive. Being in shape makes every single guy on this planet relatively more attractive than when he’s not. Even the most unattractive ugly guy is a bit more attractive when he’s in shape (even though it may not be enough anyway). But beside height and frame (frame is also important – a guy with si… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/25 12:38 PM |
| 1 | How are ugly couples sexually attracted too each other?This is just wrong, especially for women. I will bet my life that if we'll assemble 100 heterosexual men and women in roughly the same age and tell them to pick 10 most attractive and 10 least attractive men/women, the overlap would be noticeable in terms of men picking women and very strong in terms of women picking men. Because female preferences are even more narrow. And the funny thing is that even as a straight man, I'd probably have better success rate in guessing men picked by women than … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/25 10:20 AM |
| 1 | How are ugly couples sexually attracted too each other?In all honesty, it's usually a smaller issue for ugly men because men have a much lower threshold for what they consider attractive plus they are more rational in way that when they know they are no super catch either, they cannot expect the women be attractive (ofc unless they throw money into the equation but that's a different debate). And while for an unattractive man without incentives is an unattractive GF the best he can get, an unattractive woman can hook up with a guy who probably will … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/25 09:49 AM |
| 1 | The below 80% of men should strive to get dating apps removedI don’t know where you live but from my experience as a kid and what’s normal now, you’re totally wrong. My father spent more free time with me than my mother, sometimes cooked me a meal, prepared snacks for school, drove me around tennis tournaments etc. He even took me on hiking trips for a couple of days. And this is pretty normal nowadays (in Europe). Parenting is not only about the first 2–3 years when mothers are obviously more important. I know a lot of women are raising kids as single mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/25 11:33 AM |
| 2 | The below 80% of men should strive to get dating apps removedSorry but the only thing that actually decides whether a person on this planet is attractive are people who he/she wants to attract. It's pretty relative, there is no absolute metric. If 50 % of men on this planet would look like 2000 Brad Pitt and 50 % would look like 2000 Matt Damon, then the latter would be considered unattractive. When men rate women on the attractiveness scale, they do it very linear. A 5/10 is roughly their percentile 50. Women don't operate that way. Men they rate as a 5/… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/25 03:10 PM |
| 1 | The below 80% of men should strive to get dating apps removedI'm not that old :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/25 02:43 PM |
| -1 | The below 80% of men should strive to get dating apps removedThere are countries where women don't even need a partner to undergo assisted reproduction process. And when they have a good career and money they sometimes use this service knowing they will be single mothers. Some women even just pick a good looking man and get fertilized. It's not that common but let's not pretend it never happens in the West. Men are often in a different situation. Those are not willing to commit are usually very attractive men who can f around in their late 30s and early 4… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/25 01:57 PM |
| 3 | The below 80% of men should strive to get dating apps removedThat's a certain sense of self-honesty I have to appreciate. Saying that, I feel that if every man in the West refuses to date women who would not swipe right on him on Tinder, the society may collapse in a few decades. But I'm not blaming you because I know that if I'd confront women with the same issue and say that they need to drop their standards for the sake of reproducing and maintaining the society, they would laugh at my face. In the past women usually needed to do that in order to start… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/25 01:20 PM |
| 4 | The below 80% of men should strive to get dating apps removedLook, unfortunately this is a brutal clash of individual preferences and trying to maintain societal cohesion. If every LTR or marriage in the West would be based only on a genuine attraction of a woman towards her male partner, you would have either some polyamory/polygamy BS or a world where at least 60–70 % of men and females are forever single. With the difference that women could get sex from attractive men through hook-ups and men would just get jack shit. As much as I understand how diffi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/25 11:25 AM |
| 12 | The below 80% of men should strive to get dating apps removedAs someone who’s currently 38, I remember the rise of digital platforms before explicit dating apps (Myspace then Facebook). Tinder only deepened trends that were already existing since like mid-late 00s. Men were approaching totally unknown women already around 2010 on Facebook. If I remember correctly that was the time when you could already add a message to a Facebook friendship request – a huge deal breaker, because you could basically write a pick up line. The scope was still smaller compar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/25 11:01 AM |
| – | Men need to wake up, women were never truly attracted to you like you thoughtOP is totally wrong and his premise is pretty similar to a situation when men claim that women are asexual. Well, unfortunately for a lot of men, their reality is experiencing asexual women. Either through no interest at all, or some dead bedroom or borderline dead bedroom relationship where the woman does not even try to pretend she's fired up for a sex with that guy. But that does not mean she's not fired up for sex with men she considers attractive. Women maybe don't have the sex drive men ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/25 09:23 AM |
| – | Men need to wake up, women were never truly attracted to you like you thoughtOfc women are attracted to men outside of seeking protection and resources. But only to a certain calibre of men that are physically attractive. These men are loved almost the same way men love women. The problem is that due to inter-gender attraction dynamics a huge group of men actually never experiences this feeling. A lot of them ends up in a relationship with more or less betabuxxing nature and once they get used and divorce-raped they say nihilistic stuff like "women were always only about… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/25 09:17 AM |
| – | Is there a Chopped Man Epidemic or do women just assess men's looks a lot more harshly than women's?Hair is not the only feature that determines a man's looks. A bald 6'3 guy with a sharp jaw and good facial structure will usually be seen as more handsome than a 5'10 average guy with a full head of hair. It's not rare than women marry a guy they are not particularly attracted to physically but he has different qualities. Like having money or just being available. Being bald or severely balding especially at a younger age is huge blow for a man's looks. Only a minority of bald men (tall, mascul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/25 10:55 AM |
| – | I am startled at how easy it is for my female friend to get sexMy mind is only blown by the fact that you're in your 30s and suddenly you realized this dynamic. Were you living in a cave your whole life? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/25 02:07 PM |
| 1 | Those of you 30+ and are/were single at this age: did you start getting "flooded with attention" the moment you turned 30?Early 30s were my absolute prime in terms of dating. My looks were far from stunning when I was 18 but improved steadily up until like 24. At 30, I had slightly more muscle mass than at 24 but I always looked younger than what was my age. That was a big handicap at 18 but at 30, I looked 25. What improved my situation was already having a good job and that made a difference compared to 24. I never flexed money but I was able to afford my own apartment and my deeper knowledge of society and inter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/25 11:28 PM |
| 5 | CMV: men's failure to approach women is ruining dating"It’s 2025, studies suggest 25% of Gen Z are LGBTQ+" Not all studies are from California... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/25 08:56 PM |
| 19 | CMV: men's failure to approach women is ruining datingThis woman is no teen anymore, even though she’s attractive she looks like she's pushing 30. I doubt she even goes to the right places to meet men she wants. And let's be honest, if you'd take 100 random dudes, at least 90 if not 95 have zero chance. They know it so they don't see in any point in embarrassing themselves in trying to seduce a hot white blond chick with big tits. Women don’t understand that but with the exception of few retards, men have a much better self-awareness and they can a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/25 04:05 PM |
| 37 | CMV: men's failure to approach women is ruining datingThis is obviously a viral attempt and you fell for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/25 02:40 PM |
| 4 | Sexual liberation is inherently eugenicistThe "right for reproduction" is a pretty modern concept. Throughout the history, only 40 % of male population passed their genes. But there are two pretty fundamental reasons why you cannot end this debate just by pointing at this stat. First of all, men don’t care about stone age or medieval ages. They care about post WW II era. And it’s a fact that for physically unattractive men the landscape was much easier in 1960 than it is now. Second problem is that in order to preserve society and its f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/25 12:03 PM |
| 2 | Lack of Romantic/Sexual Experience Stunts Social & Emotional Development in Young MenThe frequent problem to this is that what men often consider a hook-up or casual sex, women consider "non-casual". Maybe not yet a relationship but still not a hook-up. There are certain scenarios where even the woman knows exactly what she's into. When a man meets women from other continents who stay in his country for a few days (tourists, business trip), I guess these women know it’s not going to be more than a one night stand. But very often the man wants just sex and to get it he can maybe … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/25 09:46 AM |
| 4 | Lack of Romantic/Sexual Experience Stunts Social & Emotional Development in Young MenI think that a lot of women are nowadays ok with being in a rotations of attractive men as for casual sex and dates. But as for marriages and LTRs a vast majority of women still prefers monogamous relationships. There are not enough attractive men around so I can see even more women in the future simply getting casual sex from attractive men and not getting into any serious commitment. Artificial insemination and single motherhood will be common for professionally accomplished women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/25 02:14 PM |
| 15 | Lack of Romantic/Sexual Experience Stunts Social & Emotional Development in Young MenI don’t buy that much into this notion how men are so much worse with women than 50 years ago. Technology, economy and social norms gave women the benefit or raising the threshold for men. If you’d put a 1975 man with a 4/10 face and average or below average height into the current dating market and expect him to do better, because he is "better with women", he’d end up mee too-ed or publicly shamed. When I was 18, I was less attractive both absolutely and relatively compared to my peers to when… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/25 03:35 PM |
| 2 | Men obsess over achieving a variety of women, to their own detrimentI'm sorry but you probably missed my point. for example, the guy I know isn't some middle aged balding fart with two chins. He's a fit 6'1 guy with a face similar to Tom Brady. Given how I was able to date solid looking women anywhere between 23–37 years of age through Tinder only 2–3 years ago, I can only assume what his options are. Because he's objectively better looking than me. He's one inch taller, dark hair, same body type and more attractive facial features. When younger women give him c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/25 01:33 PM |
| 5 | Men obsess over achieving a variety of women, to their own detrimentI think OP is not much familiar with the dynamics in regard to marriages/LTRs and cheating. I partly agree with your assessment but from what I saw in my social circle, there's also another scenario. I'm 38 and a lot of my friends / former class mates married with a woman in the same age bracket. The problem is that when they started with their relationship 15 years ago or even earlier, the woman – even though sometimes not blatantly attractive – was in her prime. Unfortunately for her, after tw… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/25 11:17 AM |
| 3 | We should start sexualizing menBut unattractive men, unlike unattractive women will NEVER be objects of sexual desire by the opposite gender. It's just how evolutionary psychology and biology work. Men go for quantity and women go for quality. And both men/women cannot impose on themselves the idea that someone is attractive, when he's not. It's either yes or no from the get go. People were mentioning locker room talk. No offence, but I've heard stuff like "she's ugly as hell, but I'd f**k her from behind so I don't have to w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/25 06:05 AM |
| 19 | Q4Men: an average or below average looking woman matched with you on tinder. She messages you that she is trying to escape an abusive boyfriend and wants to crash with you in exchange for sex. What do you do?Because they are idiots. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/25 09:44 PM |
| 2 | The majority of "penis shaming" occurs in male centric groups, not female ones.This. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/25 12:48 PM |
| 5 | The majority of "penis shaming" occurs in male centric groups, not female ones.This is the most correct answer. Women are ALWAYS most honest right after you f**k them and the better you are the more open they are. I don't care how many women on Reddit will write that size does not matter. For me, they are anonymous virtue signalling, gaslighting individuals. My experience derives from the real world. Regardless of how women gaslight on that topic men into oblivion, men with at least elemental intelligence and social skills know that having an above average size will be an … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/25 12:46 PM |
| 4 | As a guy, game is arguably the best thing to invest in these daysGame without fundamentals (looks and I don't mean model looks but sufficient looks) is almost useless. I've seen barely average or below average men trying to replicate behaviour of good looking men so many times in my life and usually it never ended up well. Sometimes it even caused a lot of problems for them. Life is not what dating gurus try to sell you. Game can make a difference for a guy who's solid but not stunning. Really attractive men will pull women with shit game and unattractive men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/25 02:19 PM |
| 1 | Women's attraction to men is almost 100% influenced by peer pressure/societial conditioning and less so by the individual person, as opposed to men, whose attraction to types of women is fairly fixed and dependent on the individual.Watching the world around you is the link. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/25 02:29 PM |
| 2 | Women's attraction to men is almost 100% influenced by peer pressure/societial conditioning and less so by the individual person, as opposed to men, whose attraction to types of women is fairly fixed and dependent on the individual."the amount of times I've seen the shy vegan leftist girl into art who hates sports leer at/ get visibly turned on by a guy in flannel and ball cap that is cheering at the football game would make your head spin - the amount of times I hear a girl say "god a white guy with a ballcap is just so fucking hot I don't know why" would make your head spin." I’m not American and spent only about 4 weeks in the US during vacations and business trips. But I could literally write a novel out of watching or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/25 02:27 PM |
| 5 | Why do women call sleeping around “healing” or “finding themselves”?The real reason is that women are trying to improve their self esteem because when they only sleep around without any commitment they are able to get with significantly more attractive men compared to those that they are able lock down for a relationship. So it's an ego boost because women (more than men) derive their value based on the quality of men they are able to attract. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/25 01:22 PM |
| 1 | Why do women hate guys who use OnlyFans when it’s pro feminist?Just for the record, what is your opinion on porn? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/25 02:39 PM |
| 2 | How do RedPillers explain the situations where a man is neither a peak physical specimen/hot, rich and successful etc. but still has success in dating and casual sex?I tried to show that OP is actually wrong when she puts "peak physical specimen/hot, rich" and "tall, fit, good looking, with a lot of money or social status, who have sexual experience and a lot to their name" in the same sentence with "top 20 %". Top 20 % is a much broader range of men. So her question should be framed "how do you explain that men outside of top 20 % get casual sex" and the answer is that not many men outside of top 20 % get casual sex without providing anything else, unless t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/25 01:19 PM |
| 18 | How do RedPillers explain the situations where a man is neither a peak physical specimen/hot, rich and successful etc. but still has success in dating and casual sex?In OPs words: "Peak physical specimen/hot" is a term for probably like a top 3 % of men, maybe even less. "tall, fit, good looking, with a lot of money or social status, who have sexual experience and a lot to their name" – again, that's much less than 20 % of men. Even when you rule out money, the odds that a man is "tall", so let's say at least 2 inches higher than average in his region, "good looking" (so his face is like a top 20-30 %) and fit (some muscles, low body fat), is 5 % maximum. In… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/25 11:05 AM |
| – | When you ask a girl out in social circle, you’re not just risking rejection. You’re risking your reputationI had a colleague who ruined his reputation and he was a laughing stock because he asked out about 3 of his female colleagues and he never succeeded. He was in relatively high position, especially in regard to his age at that time (around 30) and somehow he thought that he could make an impression on his junior female colleagues. But he wasn't the most attractive to say the least and even though these women worked at different departments the information about his struggles spread around the com… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/25 02:13 PM |
| 4 | What would you describe as unreasonable female standardsIf you believe most men think these two people are lookmatch you live in a lalaland. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/25 01:51 PM |
| 1 | What would you describe as unreasonable female standardsNothing. Because in the end: Attraction is non-negotiable. If women cannot find anyone who is good enough for their standards, the downside will mostly be living unhappy life. Regardless of these "happy and single" clown posts. That's valid when you're 30, not when you are 50 and childless. Women pay the price for their hardwired setting. If 85 out of 100 men isn't good enough, and they're not able to clinch some of those 15, she will either live unhappy life with a guy she's not attracted to / … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/25 01:48 PM |
| 4 | Befriending women will not make a differenceIt's never "good" or "bad" it's just honest. Yeah, it my sound brutal and yeah men or women who dislike the other gender will probably not feel any better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/25 10:34 AM |
| 3 | Dear women, he is not “emotionally unavailable” you are just his side pieceYeah but being charming enough to support your physical attractiveness is something totally different to being good boyfriend or husband. Men are not only either pricks or husband-material. You won't pick husband material for being a husband when you're not physically attracted to him. Unless you want a relationship so bad you need to lower your standards. But modern women in the West don't need to do that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/25 11:04 AM |
| 1 | Dear women, he is not “emotionally unavailable” you are just his side pieceAttractive men and women have always had more options. Absolutely. But internet really doubled down on dating dynamics that derive from mother nature. I always say that women did not change, women are just given the opportunity to behave in a natural way. People think that men who complain on the internet are mostly some cowards who never tried to date any women and just complain. But I think it’s fair to say that there are men who just cannot make it in today’s environment. And internet is a pl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/25 10:55 AM |
| – | Women only care about men's issues when the ramifications of it starts affecting them directly. Men at the same time are expected to acknowledge female struggles and if men show an indifference towards plights of women, they ae shamed and guilted into conformingWomen use the word incel as a slur because they like to think that it's a state of mind. I think that "involuntary celibate" is term for anyone who wants to have sex and is unable to get for a significant period of time. And often it's because of reasons that are out of his power. But most Redditors and people deny that this is even possible and they'd like others to believe that being incel is just optional. Like one day a man wakes ups, looks in the mirror and thinks "huh, I'm gonna bash women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/25 09:31 AM |
| – | Women only care about men's issues when the ramifications of it starts affecting them directly. Men at the same time are expected to acknowledge female struggles and if men show an indifference towards plights of women, they ae shamed and guilted into conformingShe is totally clueless like many people around here. It's the new wannabe progressive generation where defending your nation is optional and others can just say "fuck it I'm out of here". Imagine what the history would look like, if this was the norm 80 years ago. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/25 09:25 AM |
| – | Women only care about men's issues when the ramifications of it starts affecting them directly. Men at the same time are expected to acknowledge female struggles and if men show an indifference towards plights of women, they ae shamed and guilted into conformingPresident made that decision not because he feels sorry for poor little girls who are too weak to carry a gun or serve in the logistics/hospitals etc. but because women are more important for preserving the nation from a biological point of view. The problem is that a lot of young Ukrainian women used this as a scapegoat to get visa status in richer European countries and stay there permanently. It basically simplified their residency procedures. And that wasn't the purpose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/25 09:22 AM |
| – | Women only care about men's issues when the ramifications of it starts affecting them directly. Men at the same time are expected to acknowledge female struggles and if men show an indifference towards plights of women, they ae shamed and guilted into conformingSo when UK was drafting men to fight in the WWII they were "kidnapping men"? You see, defending your nation is not voluntary, and certianly it's not a losing war. They are defending for 3 years and Russkies made almost zero progress over the last year or so. But if every person on this planet was a selfish egoistic clown like you, the whole Europe where I live would probably still be either Nazi Germany or Soviet Union. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/25 09:18 AM |
| – | Women only care about men's issues when the ramifications of it starts affecting them directly. Men at the same time are expected to acknowledge female struggles and if men show an indifference towards plights of women, they ae shamed and guilted into conformingIt's inherent because of reproduction. To preserve the nation, tribe or whatever you need women more than men. One man can hypothetically impregnate many women in a single week while for woman it's a matter of 9 months of insecurity and she has to give a birth. Chinese are now paying a brutal demographic price for one child policy in the past and the fact that most families wanted boys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/25 08:58 AM |
| 2 | Dear women, he is not “emotionally unavailable” you are just his side pieceAttractiveness is the main threshold. All other traits you mentioned are bonuses and differentiate men you want to live with from men you'd just have sex with. In an ideal world, no woman or man on this planet lives with someone he/she’s not genuinely attracted to. But in the end people need to play with cards they’ve been given. And only few are grizzled enough to live and die alone. So they make compromises. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/25 12:32 PM |
| 1 | Dear women, he is not “emotionally unavailable” you are just his side pieceIt is pretty relevant for people who are discussing these issues and want answers for their questions. The problem is that many individuals know deep down inside what the answer is but use Reddit or some similar platform as a coping mechanism; because they rely on people doing what they often do – gaslighting / virtue signalling. The typical example is someone who posts his Tinder profile photos, brags about getting zero likes and finishes it with something like "am I ugly or what". He relies on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/25 12:25 PM |
| 1 | Dear women, he is not “emotionally unavailable” you are just his side pieceUnderstanding the reality is pretty useful but accepting it is hard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/25 12:01 PM |
| 1 | Dear women, he is not “emotionally unavailable” you are just his side pieceMany men are tired of being the ones who have to initiate, pay, court, protect/provide etc for a woman who doesn’t reciprocate. These men are just the extension of the group I talked about that worked their way from being considered unattractive to be tolerated as a betabuxer and then they are in a shitty relationship before getting divorce-raped. Many women are tired of being the ones who have to bear children, be nurturing, cook/clean, and be a man’s sole emotional support when he doesn’t reci… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/25 09:51 AM |
| 1 | Dear women, he is not “emotionally unavailable” you are just his side pieceThe general preferences are created through statistical evidence and what majority of men/women prefer. When it comes to being bald, my estimate is that maybe like 1-2 % of women like it, 10 % have ambivalent opinion on that issue and the rest, which is still around 90 % see it as a feature that lowers the men attractiveness. Now that does not mean that women from the biggest group won’t ever date a bald man. If he’s 6’3 with a body like an Olympic swimmer and decent face, I’m sure majority of m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/25 09:29 AM |
| 1 | Dear women, he is not “emotionally unavailable” you are just his side pieceThe main difference is men tend to be a bit more analytical, so they rate these things consciously while women do it as well but subconsciously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/25 09:22 AM |
| 2 | Dear women, he is not “emotionally unavailable” you are just his side pieceAttractive men are not non-committal but are less committal then average and below average men. Attractive men commit to attractive women (or rich). But because male sexual behaviour is less focused on quality and more on quantity, they have zero problems having easy sex with women below their looks match level unless they find them flat out unattractive. This gives these women a certain sense of entitlement that they can lock some of these guys for a relationship but that it’s false. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/25 09:19 AM |
| 2 | Dear women, he is not “emotionally unavailable” you are just his side pieceDating is a market and everyone has a value. Your value as a woman is strongly determined by your looks. The value of men is more determined by other variables as well but it's also more looks oriented than most of the society thinks / accepts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/25 09:14 AM |
| 4 | We should get rid of dating appsDating apps will be around as long as there are enough women and men who can effectively utilize them. The number of men is much lower but why would attractive men willingly pass on the opportunity to secure dates and potentially sex with women by swiping on his mobile phone and writing few sentences? That's ridiculously naive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/25 11:36 AM |
| 68 | Dear women, he is not “emotionally unavailable” you are just his side pieceMen pretend they are MGTOW because no women are interested in them anyway. Or only women they are not attracted to. Women pretend they are willingly single because men who they are attracted to can pump and dump them every now and then but are not willing to form a relationship with them. It’s easy as that and everything you see on the internet is just a giant ocean of cope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/25 09:03 AM |
| 1 | “Men are looking for clean water in a desert while women are looking for clean water in a swamp” is the most misandrist analogy I ever heardWomen are not genetically programmed to contemplate about what's good for society. They care about what is good for them. And they don't think rationally about that, it's instinctual. In an extreme scenario, the byproduct of women caring about what's good solely for themselves can negatively affect them but it's super naive to think women will pick being in an LTR with 4/10 Billy over sharing Joe with 4 other females in a harem because they fear of what may happen in society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/25 09:59 PM |
| 2 | “Men are looking for clean water in a desert while women are looking for clean water in a swamp” is the most misandrist analogy I ever heard"Women deal with being single much better than men so they're not so desperate for a relationship." Totally disagree on that. Women who are single are not single in the way many men are. In most cases, they can have sex any time they want, they have male friends and beta orbiters. On the other hand, men who are single, often lack any female companionship (unless they willingly want to be beta orbiters and "friends" which is unacceptable for any man with a spine and decent amount of dignity). Put… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/25 09:43 PM |
| 2 | The fact that some men won’t find a partner is fueling unhealthy coping mechanisms & belief systemsTL;DR As more men accept the fact they may not find love, we will see a rise in unhealthy coping mechanisms & extreme ideologies. To a certain point I agree but what's the alternative? Preaching comforting lies on Reddit? When you accept the fact that some people just weren't given the right cards, you can spare them from having the current stigma. Because people – especially women – who claim that there's no such thing as a man who's universally unattractive are doing these individuals a brutal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/25 07:30 AM |
| 2 | Size doesn't matter to women until it's their own partner who's small.Thank you for this answer, finally a reality-based comment bar the fact that 6 inches long is not average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 01:47 PM |
| -2 | Size doesn't matter to women until it's their own partner who's small.Again, yes but statistically there's a certain length/width ratio. And a correlation (ofc not 100 %) between bigger length and width. The length mentioned in inches is just an abbreviation for overall size. When you say xy inches in length, you expect certain girth. Despite this variable being somewhat volatile. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 01:33 PM |
| 0 | Size doesn't matter to women until it's their own partner who's small.Yeah, but you are changing the goal posts, as we play. For a significant amount of women 8 inches is too big. Agree. But not every "bigger than 4-6" is 8. And actually some empirical studies as well as – sorry I have to say it – my personal experience make me believe that statistically the most preferred size for women is around 6 inches, maybe 6,5. Claiming that "most women are in a world of pain" above 4-6 is just absolute nonsense. I’d say that on average like a one woman out of 3 maybe 4 fee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 01:18 PM |
| 8 | Size doesn't matter to women until it's their own partner who's small.I've seen a lot of BS around this topic but this really deserves a gold medal. You are trying to say, that most women don't enjoy biggers sizes than 4-6 inches and are in a "world of pain"? Really? Just for the record, Earth orbits around the Sun, not the other way around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 12:43 PM |
| – | Q4W - Canadian politics edition: Will you be mad if Pierre Pollievre wins?Actually, for a Caucasian Canadian male, he is quite short. He's like 5'8. And he really is bothered by it, as he claims he's taller, makes sure his photos are taken from a good angle and not with significantly taller people. In addition, he probably wears lifts. So, regardless of your ex-post virtue signalling clinic, you hit a nerve and if he'd see this comment, he would be pissed. It's ok to be nasty, you don't have to pretend to be the nice one all the time, like women do so often. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 11:53 AM |
| 1 | Today's culture wants the dating market essentially whittled down Tinder swipesIOIs - indicators of interest | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/25 11:45 AM |
| 6 | Q4W - Canadian politics edition: Will you be mad if Pierre Pollievre wins?He lost because he was associated too much with Trump who somehow talks like Hitler about making Canada another state. The orange idiot did it yet again with another sophisticated chess play manoeuvre lol! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/25 11:27 AM |
| 4 | Q4W - Canadian politics edition: Will you be mad if Pierre Pollievre wins?Love how you mentioned "little" in order to humiliate him. No trying to bash you, just enjoying these nice little moments when women get angry enough to stop virtue signalling and show their true colours. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/25 11:22 AM |
| 7 | Straight women who do not want to date bisexual men, what are your reasons?Or fuck other men in the ass. The only correct answer. This comment section is comedy gold BS. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/25 10:54 AM |
| 5 | Today's culture wants the dating market essentially whittled down Tinder swipesIt’s not like men don’t understand going for someone out of their league is futile. Men have problems understanding in who’s league they are and aren’t. That’s the number one issue. For rating attractiveness, you can use two criterions: The "statistical" model. In that case a person who is better looking than 50/100 people should be a 5/10 by default and someone who’s better looking than 70/100 people should be 7/10. This is a model that men often apply; in combination with the "looksmatch logic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/25 12:26 PM |
| 7 | Today's culture wants the dating market essentially whittled down Tinder swipesThey did but there was no Tinder so when they wanted to meet worthy men for a relationship they needed to go out and make themselves visible. Even more so when they wanted casual fun. Now they can just sit home and swipe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/25 08:38 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: What dating advice would you give a guy who exudes “beta bux™️” but doesn’t want to be “beta bux™️”?This looks nice in theory but it's not like all betabuxers use their money to lock good looking women. There are men out there that make zero women "hot for them". And even very mediocre women need other stimulus (material incentives) to pair with them. The obvious advice for not ending up as a betabuxer is "shoot below the best you can get when you use your money as well". Unfortunately, for some men the only alternative to not being a betabuxer is simply being alone. Because there are no women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/25 12:20 PM |
| 26 | Today's culture wants the dating market essentially whittled down Tinder swipesWomen (although they rarely admit it) strongly dislike when they are openly approached by someone they don’t see as worthy (mainly looks, less frequently status or combination). They claim that it’s physically uncomfortable (and sure, in some cases may be) but the biggest burden is the mental aspect. „Am I really so unattractive that this short/ugly/poor whatever loser thinks he has a chance with me?“ It’s the complete opposite of the validation women like that much. 99 % of women on Tinder don’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/25 11:06 AM |
| 1 | Redpillers think that women in the past were perfect, but they often just hid it betterIt matters when men try to falsely claim that women were different/better 70 years ago. Being forced to behave different due to different environment does not mean their natural instincts were different. A so called "good housewife" from the 1950s who got married with the first guy she met would eagerly have sex with a few 8/10 men before realising that she cannot lock such a guy for life so she settles for more or less a provider. The reason why so many men say stuff like that is because it’s e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/25 09:05 AM |
| 2 | Redpillers think that women in the past were perfect, but they often just hid it betterGiven the options of today's world, they would be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/25 09:35 AM |
| 9 | Redpillers think that women in the past were perfect, but they often just hid it betterIt existed in a way the situation was slightly better for average or below average men but for totally different reasons than what they claim. Women having less opportunities/options on the job and sexual market (no internet, social media, dating apps etc.) and stronger societal pressure to behave/not behave in a certain manner is something completely different than “women were fine and then they got brainwashed by the media and feminism”. The current female behaviour stems from inherent evoluti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/25 09:30 AM |
| 1 | Women on reddit who claim to be single and perfectly happy due to potential dating partners not meeting their standards are often miserable in reality.I just enjoy practising my written English and saying stuff that people know but hate to hear. Reddit is more or less a self-reassuring space and someone has to spoil the party. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/25 11:01 AM |
| 1 | Women on reddit who claim to be single and perfectly happy due to potential dating partners not meeting their standards are often miserable in reality.The frequency of "that's just a revenge fantasy" is what "you're an incel" was 5 years ago and "that's some serious small dick energy" 10 years ago. I always laugh at MGTOW preachers knowing what the reality looks like. But we need to be fair. Exactly the same women who sent MGTOW into their "monk mode" and other BS because they weren't attracted to them were "sent" to be single by more attractive men who maybe can hook up with them every now and then but form a relationship with better looking … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/25 07:01 AM |
| 0 | Women on reddit who claim to be single and perfectly happy due to potential dating partners not meeting their standards are often miserable in reality.Nope, women are single because they cannot find the worthy calibre of men to form a relationship with. They only cope by saying it's their "choice" – the same way MGTOW clowns cope by saying they went their own way when in reality women just never cared about them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/25 10:34 PM |
| 4 | Women on reddit who claim to be single and perfectly happy due to potential dating partners not meeting their standards are often miserable in reality.There's a difference between being 32, single, living a Sex and the City wannabe life and being 52, single, childless while most of your females friends around you have families and kids. I'm in my late thirties and I've seen women who were happy at 30 making panic decisions at 36 just to avoid this scenario. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/25 10:31 PM |
| 12 | Women on reddit who claim to be single and perfectly happy due to potential dating partners not meeting their standards are often miserable in reality.Your interpretation is rather extreme but in general you're right. The truth is a lot of women are not happy being alone but they see it as a lesser problem than forming a relationship with someone unworthy. That's why I always say that men are totally wrong when they claim that "women can never lose in life". When they aim for the calibre of men they hooked up with on Tinder, they often come short because statistically in a monogamous society there isn't enough of these men. So, they have two o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/25 10:12 PM |
| – | The obsession with getting women to “admit” they prefer big dicks is hurting menThis is a completely irrelevant comment. How many men are in a relationship or have sex tells you nothing about the topic of what sizes women prefer. Especially relationship where dozens % of men are more or less in a provider role and women still value other qualities than purely sex life. You also have loads of traits that determine physical attraction. You can be physically attractive and you’ll probably have at least one sex with dozens of women if you want. It would be very wild for a woman… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 04:52 PM |
| – | The obsession with getting women to “admit” they prefer big dicks is hurting menYou don’t understand male psyche. Men inherently want to be seen as good sex partners exactly in that vacuum scenario you so eagerly try to separate from relationship scenario. The annoying behaviour on their side is this: deep down they know that women on average prefer not gigantic yet over average sizes and then get angry when some women let their virtue signalling shield down and say how it is. Most men claim that the reason for their anger is the inconsistency between what women say and wha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/25 04:16 PM |
| 2 | Non-westerners and non-assimilated foreigners are ruining western dating discourse and western dating.I'll make it much shorter: On average they are being considered less physically attractive. And some of them (more in Europe than NA) are poorer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/25 09:34 PM |
| 17 | Non-westerners and non-assimilated foreigners are ruining western dating discourse and western dating.The percentage of non-western men who cannot compete in the west is much higher compared to local men. It often goes gand in hand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/25 07:24 PM |
| 7 | It doesn't make sense when women claim that most men just want casual sex.https://www.stevestewartwilliams.com/p/how-men-and-women-rate-each-other What females consider "average" is like the better looking half of the 23 % column and 12 % column. So in reality men who are somewhere between percentile 70 and 93. That means 7/10 of men don't reach the threshold of what women themselves consider average. And in real life, the statistics are purely subjective it's not an objective science where 5/10 is average. I've actually had many conversations with women including tho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/25 11:17 AM |
| 1 | In the long run, there's nothing that fulfills most women better than having kidsThe fact that this comment gets downvoted tells you everything about women in this subbredit and why most of their comments look the way they look. Period. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/25 01:43 PM |
| 4 | Just be what they wantYet commies here think they deserve their own wife just because their ancestors got one. Because these people actually think, that 1950s were the "normality era" while 2025 is the deviation from normality. When you look at the history of homo sapiens, only 40 % of males throughout the history of our species passed their genes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/25 11:29 PM |
| 1 | Just be what they wantBecause people use the word "realistic" in absolut meaning when in reality it's totally relative. If a 3/10 woman can somehow ever get a sniff at a 7/10 man while he sees her as a cheap sex opportunity a 7/10 man will be forever "realistic" in her head. Women always see as "realistic" the best men they can get and that usually means someone way above their looksmatch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/25 11:19 PM |
| 1 | Just be what they wantPeople are still heavily invested in the "looksmatch" concept. Women are not hardwired to have any kind of "logical" mindset. Many men still think that 3/10 women should logically pair with 3/10 men. But because women care about quality and men about quantity, they operate in a totally different manner. A man thinks the follow way: "well, she’s quite ugly but so am I, and this it’s a women made of flesh with pussy and tits, so I’ll find a way to be attracted to her". A woman never ever sees it l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/25 11:04 PM |
| 2 | CMV: "women are less likely to date bisexual men" is just an attempt to frame us as homophobicSorry but this stat is totally irrelevant for our discussion because I’m talking about the outcome. And the outcome is reflected in statistical evidence. Ofc gay men use condoms more than men during sex with females, because by 2025 everyone knows how higher is the risk of getting STD through anal sex compared to vaginal penetration. And the risk is so high that even smaller percentage of sexual intercourses without condom conducted by an overall minority within the population leads to 71 % of H… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/25 10:09 AM |
| 2 | CMV: "women are less likely to date bisexual men" is just an attempt to frame us as homophobichttps://www.cdc.gov/hiv/data-research/facts-stats/gay-bisexual-men.html "Of the 31 800 estimated new HIV infections in the US in 2022, 71% (25 000) were among gay and bisexual men." Well, I guess that's "slightly" higher number per capita than for the rest of the population. Or 71 % of the US population is already gay and bisexual men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/25 11:29 PM |
| -1 | CMV: "women are less likely to date bisexual men" is just an attempt to frame us as homophobicI guess trying to avoid STDs is now being labeled not progressive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/25 11:06 PM |
| 2 | The best way to correct the dating market is for men to leave women alone.I know this is a rather extreme interpretation but regardless of equally matched people living together being very common, the woman usually settles for that guy. And women would never settle for a guy who doesn’t bring anything the table. So for me it’s betabuxing even though it’s just a "making life easier" principle. Even very mediocre women are hardwired to get with attractive men. The only reason they end up in LTRs with their looksmatches is because we still live in predominantly monogamou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/25 11:52 AM |
| 3 | The best way to correct the dating market is for men to leave women alone.Ok, I’ll try to explain. These people (and I say people on purpose because it’s also men) who verbally oppose men leaving society don’t give a flying fuck about them specifically. What they care about is society as such. Because ofc the vision of dozens of % of men living single without families and all this resulting in low birth rates, collapsing pension systems, weak economies, weak armies and local people being "substituted" by low-IQ migrants from sub-Saharan Africa (I’m from Europe) someho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 02:05 PM |
| – | Why do women adamantly refuse to admit that the way they talk about penis size affects how men view themselves?Funny how you use Caps Lock in order to deny overall statistical trend. You see, in many sciences that are not 100 % exact, you create qualitative assumptions based on quantitative data. Yes, women sure have different opinions and sure a lot of them does not enjoy sex with a guy who's in the top 5 or 10 % in terms of size. But when for each woman that prefers under average size, you have 5 or even 8 who prefer above average size (and don't make me want to look cringe by saying "how do you know")… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 01:34 PM |
| – | Why do women adamantly refuse to admit that the way they talk about penis size affects how men view themselves?I know that when it comes to this topic, most women will virtue-signal and gaslight men into oblivion. But based on my personal experience which I consider way more important than what some woman writes on Reddit because it’s based on almost 20 years of experience and most importantly seeing women react without their "I don’t want to be seen as shallow" shield, it’d state the following. Most women prefer over average sizes but not extremely big. I’d say around 70 maybe 75 % of women. Then you ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/25 01:26 PM |
| 2 | The best way to correct the dating market is for men to leave women alone.Well, I agree 100 % and have been already saying this 15 years ago. And with every additional year the potential to lead with your money gets smaller and smaller. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/25 10:11 AM |
| 2 | The best way to correct the dating market is for men to leave women alone.When I talk about betabuxing I don’t mean like a hot/young girl with old/unattractive man. Basically every relationship where an average and under average man is involved is a form of betabuxing. Because gazillion studies from academic papers and dating apps/social media stats showed that average and even below-average women don’t care about average men solely in terms of physical attractiveness. When you live in the West, you’re a 5’10 5/10 slightly balding guy in his thirties and you will set … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/25 10:07 AM |
| 3 | The best way to correct the dating market is for men to leave women alone.I agree that in the West rich unattractive men nowadays usually get like a 6/10 chick with fake tits at best. Unless you're in the filthy rich territory but these men usually just pay to hot chicks in a quasi-prostitute manner and don't form a regular relationship with them. They don't need discuss stocks on a Sunday morning with them (which is usually not possible anyway). They just want to fuck them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/25 05:42 PM |
| 5 | The best way to correct the dating market is for men to leave women alone.Men who struggle on the dating market sometimes live in this weird almost schizophrenic state of mind where they realised – confronted with modern data and their personal experience – that huge percentage of men will never be attractive per se. But when they bash gold diggers, they unconsciously bash the old school "good old world", where even an unattractive fella found a woman because he worked in a Detroit car factory and his wife was a stay at home, take care of the kids woman. They would sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/25 12:19 PM |
| 9 | The best way to correct the dating market is for men to leave women alone.99+ % of MGTOW are not missed by women as far as physical attraction goes and because betabuxing is gradually losing its power, they are basically obsolete in every single way. It’s one giant cope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/25 11:57 AM |
| 15 | The best way to correct the dating market is for men to leave women alone.This another of these funny theories that will never materialize in the real world. The reality looks like this. Men who struggle on the dating market won’t be missed by women for casual relationships. And the more money women make the less they’ll be missed as betabuxers to settle with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/25 11:47 AM |
| 8 | Why don’t women like dating apps?Well, I guess you're kinda right with the statistics but there is one minor problem – these 10 men from 3 groups you've just mentioned are only men that women swipe right on, lol! Ofc these men are gonna be picky and they're gonna go mostly for hook-ups because a man who gets a decent amount of likes and matches in Tinder is easily top 10 % and a man who gets like a few matches per day is top 20 % at worst. I'm not hating on your swiping preferences because unlike many men around here I reasonab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/25 09:47 PM |
| 0 | What it means to be settled for sexuallyOP wrote: The reason? They are not good looking enough and/or not masculine enough. However women often end up getting into relationships with these men hoping the sexual energy would manifest (it never does). The sex is never good but otherwise they are happy. Regardless of her mental gymnastics this a clear definition of a betabuxer. Every man who's not a complete idiot and has a pinch social intelligence is aware. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/25 03:27 PM |
| 1 | What is a high value woman?Beauty and brains. The first one is obvious but the second does not have to be manifested through money. Some utterly imbecilic people can make huge money in today's world, while smart, well-read people work in the library. I cannot imagine living with a low-IQ woman and frankly I always had trouble even hooking up with them. I always tried to screen a woman's intelligence before I went on a date with her. I knew if there were two women with same looks, where one works as a hairdresser and the o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/25 03:19 PM |
| 1 | The idea that people lie about their true attraction preferences is very out of date. For ten years they’ve been as clear as day about itEspecially for male attractiveness, the desired features are very unified and no way on Earth it's "extremely subjective". It's the total opposite – you can very safely predict who is considered attractive and who's not. I pulled it out based on being an adult male for 20 years now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/25 05:18 PM |
| 1 | Women are attracted to toxic men BECAUSE of their toxic traits, not despite them.On paper, he was a great candidate—late 20s, not ugly, full head of hair, well-mannered, no criminal record, and a well-paying corporate job. Yet, he got almost no interest from women at all. From this decription, the guy can be barely average based on his physical traits. Don't try to pretend that a guy in his late 20s is attractive only because he's "not ugly" and has a "full head of hair". He can be 5/10 facially and 5'8 so he's totally invisible. He'd have to be more rich than having just co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 01:41 PM |
| 1 | The idea that people lie about their true attraction preferences is very out of date. For ten years they’ve been as clear as day about itActually, when women evaluate men, a huge majority of them is attracted to similar features. I'll put it that way. Imagine a group of 100 men. Then imagine a group of 20 women. Tell every female to pick 5 best looking males (only physical attractivity). My estimate is that there will be 2-3 men that will be selected by almost every woman and the overall number of all men selected into someone's top 5 will be roughly 12-15. Out of 100. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/25 11:28 PM |
| 0 | The idea that people lie about their true attraction preferences is very out of date. For ten years they’ve been as clear as day about itI’m not a Trump supporter (not even American) but I love how all these progressive men, often physically very unattractive, make a full-time agenda out of hating on anything conservative, secretly hoping it will make them more attractive in the eyes of their female counterparts. But liberal and progressive chicks often end up hooking up with masculine men with totally different political views while manginas still end up with nothing and contemplate about why life is so unfair. 😊 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/25 11:13 PM |
| – | The reason women loathe the passportbro movement is because it threatens their position in the dating marketEven women from wealthy European countries are better than American women. They have better attitudes, they are slimmer and less engage in these stupid alt-left policy/fashion trends. I've worked with people from all over the planet and American females were without a shadow of a doubt the most unpleasant colleagues to be around. And also the least aesthetically pleasing but that's another topic and tbf I'm not judging a person's character based on that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/25 12:01 PM |
| – | The reason women loathe the passportbro movement is because it threatens their position in the dating marketWhen most people think of passport bros, they imagine a fat middle aged western guy who’s dating a poor rural girl from Luzon. Now even though this is a very common scenario, you can also have different ways to look at it. Imagine a decent looking man, who’s not quite good enough to hook up with hot young girls in the West and needs to go for less attractive girls to get sex without commitment. Now this guy finds himself in SAE or some South American state and suddenly he can live the life a har… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/25 10:55 AM |
| – | You cant say “Guys arent even given a chance” and then tell women “Choose better”.Don't know how old you are but I know a few of these childless career oriented women in their late 40s / early 50s who gave up on the idea to start a family and usually with every additional drink they (often subconsciously) open up more and more about how miserable they are. They may prefer staying single at 33 but the funny part starts when they are 49 and look back whether it was a mistake waiting for the prince in the white armour or not. That’s why I always say that even though women having… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/25 02:48 PM |
| 1 | Stating that sex and intimacy for men is a need, isn’t a proposal for sexual slavery. This is a common strawman that women propose because it would be ethically uncomfortable to acknowledge this being true.And that's why it's often an impossible problem to figure out. Every man can buy a hooker but that's a purely transactional scenario. Some men may be ok with that but a very significant group of men want sex to be a by-product of a genuine desire. And that it not going happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/25 02:09 PM |
| 2 | You Can Never Trust a Woman Who Doesn't Have Intense Lust for You Nearly ImmediatelyThe problem men have is that they have a very difficult time figuring out how to vet women for sexual attraction. When a relationship starts as a hook-up with no emotions attached it really shows you where you stand. Dating apps are very useful instrument (when you’re decent looking) because even when a woman who swipes on you on Tinder already wants a man for some kind of LTR, the visual aspect is much stronger than anywhere else. She decides in a few seconds during her swiping spree and decisi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/25 09:35 PM |
| 4 | You Can Never Trust a Woman Who Doesn't Have Intense Lust for You Nearly ImmediatelyPeople nowadays obsess about women having the “absolute power” but in the end, they are often not winners in the long term. You have basically 3 basic scenarios: Woman finds a man she’s genuinely attracted to, respects him, wants his genes for his offspring and is willing to live with him. Woman finds a man who is either a strong provider or/and she just want to have a family, have a partner but is not attractive enough to lock an attractive man like more attractive women from the first group. W… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/25 09:16 PM |
| 1 | Why Men Are Doomed Due to Hypergamy in Modern SocietyWomen compete for quality. Some men compete for quality, some men compete for anything. Everyone competes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/25 04:15 PM |
| 1 | What are The weirdest dating preferences that you've heard from any gender ?"I want someone taller than me when I wear heels." How is that weird? This has nothing to do with wearing heels or fashion. It's code for saying "I want a man who is significantly taller than me". The heels are just used for a good measure. I have a mild myopia – I need lenses or glasses to work with a computer and especially for driving but I can sometimes go for a couple of days with using neither. I was dating a girl who wanted me to keep glasses during sex. She was like 8 years younger than … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/25 10:49 AM |
| 9 | Why do women seem to struggle to honestly admit to preferences which might be considered shallow?Yes, I agree. I understand that men want to hear women publicly say what their true preferences are. For many it can be somewhat of a cathartic moment that can make their life a bit easier. What I don’t understand is the vast group of men who then start a tirade when confronted with the truth. My personal explanation for why women are much more reluctant to talk openly about this is topic is a combination of more factors. First of all, many women know that if they ever want to have a relationshi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/25 12:20 PM |
| 21 | Many men losing interest in womenThe reason why there will be less betabuxers is not only less women needing one but also less men willing to be in that position. I mean, unlike few decades ago, we know the stats on human attraction. What men 30-40 years ago suspected but tried not to think about is now explicitly shown in a body of empirical data. Despite the natural instincts I can see a lot of man being discouraged by the fact that they are just providers for women who had fun with more attractive guys and now they just relu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/25 04:04 PM |
| 10 | How are young men being disenfranchised?Even though it’s not a 100 % rule, there is undeniable element of sum zero game in intergender dynamics within the current society. I think that many men are enraged when society preaches this narrative about how uplifting women always benefits men as well. I don’t want to go into detail to what extent are the arguments for actively helping women on many fronts valid or invalid, that’s a debate for hours. But regardless of how relevant these actions are, the current direct or indirect actions ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/25 08:32 PM |
| 2 | Do you believe men in western societies pose any risk of reverting to extreme patriarchy (eg Iran ‘79)? More generally, do protections for women ultimately exist at the mercy of men?Bigots because they say people are born either males or females? You know what? You can call me whatever you want. Fact of the matter is that if people keep associating Dems with 147 genders, they'll lose election after election. And looking at the current state of the Republican party and the MAGA whackos in charge, you know what's gonna happen? Real bigots will get more and more power. Just because people are getting lied and being told that yes, you were born with a dick but you can be a woma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 03:35 PM |
| 2 | Do you believe men in western societies pose any risk of reverting to extreme patriarchy (eg Iran ‘79)? More generally, do protections for women ultimately exist at the mercy of men?That's a bull's eye quote, cannot agree more. Reddit is full of people who are desperately trying to convince themselves that an idiotic rapist and criminal like Trump won the election only because of inflation and economy. Nope. I’m not an American but I’d say I’m versed well enough in American politics. Most people don’t like progressive ideas but a lot of them are afraid to say it in public because they don’t want to get lynched. The silent majority. And I’m laughing by ass off when I see thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 12:22 PM |
| 4 | Do you believe men in western societies pose any risk of reverting to extreme patriarchy (eg Iran ‘79)? More generally, do protections for women ultimately exist at the mercy of men?Just for the record, could you please explain a guy from Europe in mid-late 30s what a pansexual is? I know who’s bisexual but my potential to understand pansexuality is a bit limited due to my bigoted idea that there are two genders in the world. So when you’re pansexual, you are attracted to all 147 genders? I’m being sarcastic, because on a more serious note I fucking called it even before the election right on this subreddit. That Trump is going to win, because too many people associate Dems… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/25 12:08 PM |
| 1 | Has anyone noticed a rise in older female/younger male relationships?No older man THEY WANT wants them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/25 09:11 PM |
| – | When Women Hookup They Are Playing a Bad Numbers GameI don’t want to argue about something you claim it’s true when I haven’t saw it myself and vice versa. Lot of my hook-ups were with women who were traveling (tourists, working professionals) or when I travelled myself or lived abroad. These chicks knew that there’s no chance in hill our interaction will end up in a relationship and btw. I really enjoyed this scenario because even though it wasn’t said out loud we both knew that we have one potential date to do something. But even when I was "hom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/25 04:02 PM |
| 3 | When Women Hookup They Are Playing a Bad Numbers GameI don’t think that many women sleep with guys simply for fun. Then just hop onto the next guy. Most women aren’t like that and most men aren’t like that. TLDR: The majority of hookups and fwbs that occur are women trying to get men out of their league. Absolutely don't agree. Yes, women sometimes try to sneak their way to a relationship through early sex but most hook-ups occur because women are simply attracted to a man they want to get sexual with. This "de-sexualization" of women (oh, they ra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/25 11:51 PM |
| 14 | Women end up hating the Men they create.I’m in my late 30s and the number of men around me who’s wives or LTRs tell them they „work too much“ is nothing short of comical. Especially because most of these women picked these guys mainly based on their income and status. And in every single case I know the guy is either the sole economically active person in the relationship or makes much more money than the woman. So without his financial input the family budget would collapse. Probably the most absurd example is one of my best friends … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/25 12:21 PM |
| 2 | Modern dating and relationship culture puts the burden of good sex entirely on men, and according to this narrative a woman can never be bad at sex, only uninterested.Because you claim most women expect it. Absolutely not the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/25 01:32 PM |
| 4 | Modern dating and relationship culture puts the burden of good sex entirely on men, and according to this narrative a woman can never be bad at sex, only uninterested.Some women are just unexperienced and some may have some physical limitations of various kind. But there is also a vast group of women that sexually perform differently based on how much attracted they are to her partner and how good the performance of their partner is. Women are most sexually assertive and open with a guy that they are physically attracted to and he’s a good f boy (has the physical attributes and skill). Now the funny thing is women very often end up in a relationship with a gu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/25 01:10 PM |
| 0 | Modern dating and relationship culture puts the burden of good sex entirely on men, and according to this narrative a woman can never be bad at sex, only uninterested.Go ask Michael Douglas about how basic his HPV-caused cancer was. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/25 12:31 PM |
| 2 | Modern dating and relationship culture puts the burden of good sex entirely on men, and according to this narrative a woman can never be bad at sex, only uninterested.Oral sex is already something kinky, and 99% (yes, i invented the number) of women expect men to go down on them every time. I guess you live on a different planet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/25 12:27 PM |
| 3 | A large portion of women are hypocrites when it comes to their dating preferencesSaying that every word that comes out of a woman’s mouth is a lie is absurd and a far stretch. It’s a bit more complex. Women lie the most when trying to fall in line with what the society expects. Because they are far the more collectivistic gender and they rely on society and societal norms much more than men. Therefore, a lot of them inherently tries to support every argument to show that when it comes to inter-gender relations, they are pure, moral and that kindness and affection is being aw… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/25 03:32 PM |
| 6 | A large portion of women are hypocrites when it comes to their dating preferencesI genuinely think that the reason why men find it so hard to understand women is that women aren't honest about what they want or what they find attractive. Well, when a guy is 19, it can take him a while to understand this concept. But he has loads of stats and info on the internet, so when he’s not cognitively very subpar individual, he should find out by himself. When he’s 29 and still does not get it, he’s been living under a rock his entire life or he’s actively trying to suppress the reali… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/25 02:05 PM |
| 1 | It’s unhealthy for someone to never having someone else be romantically interested in them.Interests of specific human beings / individual creatures and the rules of nature are often in contradiction. I guess it’s not healthy for a zebra to be eaten by lions and it’s not healthy for a male lion to struggle passing his genes when he’s not able to force his will. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/24 11:37 PM |
| – | Women generally prefer older men, but at the same time a man who's in his 30s and still single is seen as a red flag.That does not refute my argument. I guess you were a decent looking guy who women were reasonably attracted to regardless of your income and status. But at 25 you were not able to provide the economic security desired from a lot of women so they swapped you for older men. I would think that these older men were not struggling in their 20s. Same way as you could get numerous relationships back then and now you’re 42, so if you stayed somewhat in shape, in addition you have goods you didn’t posses… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 02:35 PM |
| – | Women generally prefer older men, but at the same time a man who's in his 30s and still single is seen as a red flag.If anything, the opposite tends to be true. Men who peak early tend to look awful in their 30s (already). Loss of normal men improve over their 20s and eventually find success after 30. I know I did. It was like a flip switched when I turned 30 and I suddenly became sought after and desirable. Sorry but I totally disagree on that. Physical features that make men attractive in their 20s are often innate and they persist into older age as well. Height, frame, facial features. The most common facto… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 02:30 PM |
| 4 | Why does the perception that "most men are physically unattractive or below average" exist among women?You don’t have to "invent explanation" – it’s there to see based on propositional logic that can be traced back to ancient Greece and Occam razor. The fact that most women in a monogamous society end up married with men they don’t consider "above average" in no way refutes the claim that the percentage of men seen as "above average" or "handsome" by women is much lower than vice versa. It’s just that women often form LTRs and enter marriages with men they see as average or even below average PHY… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 12:30 PM |
| 4 | Women generally prefer older men, but at the same time a man who's in his 30s and still single is seen as a red flag.That’s the popular red pill belief to appease young men who struggle on the dating market. The only thing that makes men more attractive in their 30s for women in their 20s is that they can play the betabux card better because they have more money. But when they finally "make it" and are seen as relationship worthy material at 35, they don’t end up with a girl who is 25, they end with woman who’s 34, spent her prime dating physically more attractive men but wasn’t able to tie them down, so she s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 10:23 AM |
| 2 | Women generally prefer older men, but at the same time a man who's in his 30s and still single is seen as a red flag.On what planet is a single men in his 30s seen as a red flag? That's totally out of touch with reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/24 09:47 AM |
| – | Young men are turning to right wing and manosphere ideologies due to being shut down and treated terrible in mainstream/progressive spaces, not from being brainwashed by "Redpill gurus" or "right-wing media".People who believe in equality are tired of the oppressor-oppressed bullshit, including many in the groups who supposedly "benefit" from the "reckoning" and "dismantling" of society. Like this one tiny group of people called women that nowadays has to compete against biological men in sports. Every time I hear some additional news about some trans/non-binery whatever man winning college competitions against women in the US, I shake my head in disbelief. But then I have a guilty pleasure feeling … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/24 04:19 PM |
| – | Young men are turning to right wing and manosphere ideologies due to being shut down and treated terrible in mainstream/progressive spaces, not from being brainwashed by "Redpill gurus" or "right-wing media".When you raise everyone up (through the lences of intergender dynamics) you don't help anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/24 03:59 PM |
| 28 | What are your thoughts on why men aren’t attending singles events?This is a myth women like to spread all the time. The pool of men that is being considered attractive by women is much more narrow than vice versa. If you put 50 men and 50 women in one room and you'll tell women to select 3 most attractive guys, in my estimate not more than 5-6 guys will be selected and probably like 2 will be picked by almost every woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/24 04:03 PM |
| 7 | What are your thoughts on why men aren’t attending singles events?Because they know Tinder is more and more the reflection of real life, so why would they want to get humiliated? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/24 03:53 PM |
| 3 | Why is it fair for married men to go 50/50 on chores when their wives are SAHMs and the kids are in school?I've done all this bar cooking for years living alone as a bachalor and working 9-10 hours per day. You're funny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 01:33 PM |
| 3 | Red-pill types ought to stop eulogising male psychopathyAggression per se is not admirable by women, dominance is. Women are not attracted to men who are aggressive but men that win. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/24 05:52 PM |
| 17 | Hot Guys I’ve Been Friends Want To Use WomenWhether people like it or not, the better looking men, the bigger chance they will be what you call narcissistic asshole. Ofc there are some deeply embedded biological roots that form your character but it’s also massively shaped during your life based on the feedback from other people. When a guy is super-hot at 35, he was probably also super-hot at 18 or 20. These men have absolutely ridiculous options with women compared to vast majority of the population. And from what I observed, exactly li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/24 11:13 AM |
| 2 | Men who fail at patriarchy and capitalism are eliminated from the dating poolYou are too heavily invested into the class struggle nonsense. Succeeding in capitalism is just a leverage to avoid being left out from the dating pool based on your genes. There are loads of men who are total losers and completely broke and they still attract women, even hot women. You need to understand that the process of "removing genes" is not only lack of willingness to intentionally raise a family with someone. When you cannot get any casual sex, you are – in a way – also being removed fr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/24 10:44 AM |
| – | The 4B movement won't work because most of us already don't get laidMGTOW is basically men that are being removed by the women from the gene pool claiming they aren't interested about women anymore. 4B would just mean average women raising their bar for sex even higher. Nothing else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/24 11:12 AM |
| – | The 4B movement won't work because most of us already don't get laidYour political views only deepen the hole you're already in. You'll find out when you're older. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/24 11:04 AM |
| – | The 4B movement won't work because most of us already don't get laidThis funny initiative – if it ever grows in numbers – will affect mostly betabuxers from LTRs and marriages. Unattractive single males get nothing and women will never be able to give up sex with attractive men, especially when they are under average or average themselves. I can imagine Becky punishing Billy Bob with finally turning their relationship into a dead bedroom marriage where the Trump victory will be used only as a nice scapegoat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/24 11:02 AM |
| – | The hypocrisy of womenI'm not an American but I fear Trump's foreign policy because he's a walking Dunning-Kruger. I had a discussion with some female Redditor few months ago and when she said something like "I don't give a shit about men's problems" I told her she'll give a shit when these men bring Trump back to power. There are some people, who don't vote for Trump but are not closing their eyes to the fact how some of the social trends right now push young men towards voting for him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/24 11:33 PM |
| – | The hypocrisy of womenBecause somehow everyone thinks that black men should vote for Trump because he's a badly hidden racist. And especially woke white soyboys and feminists think that blacks voting for Trump is an act of lunacy. But people are in a brutal denial of the reality that black men and basically every men of colour in the States, are much less woke on average in non-race related issues. A lot of them have a fundamental problem voting for a woman (Latino men maybe even more) and a lot of black men have pro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/24 11:14 PM |
| 1 | Would you give a woman over 30 years old a chance if she is looking for marriage?I was never in a serious relationship before turning 35 and I was working abroad and travelling. Never tricked a woman into thinking I'll start a family with her. I was even so respectful that on a few occasions I stopped persuading them when I probably could have slept with them having said the right things she’d like to hear. But I wanted to avoid any possible drama. So it's more like you should blame these women for "wasting" their time with guys like me. And yeah, some of them were in their … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/24 12:19 PM |
| 5 | Guys could put more effort into their dating profiles, pictures, and conversations to get better results. They are their own worse enemies.Regarding dating apps, men divide into 3 categories: 1) Flat out attractive men, like top 3 %, maybe top 5 % maximum. These men can wear whatever they want, take totally shitty photos from whatever angle and have bogus in their bio. They will get likes, matches, be hit on, women will reply their messages and will initiate conversation. 2) Flat out unattractive men and average looking men. The "bottom 60-70 %". Unattractive men will get absolutely nothing. Average looking men will get likes from … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/24 03:15 PM |
| 1 | Would you give a woman over 30 years old a chance if she is looking for marriage?Fair enough, let us know in 10 years how this worked out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/24 10:16 AM |
| 1 | Would you give a woman over 30 years old a chance if she is looking for marriage?I was 35 when I "settled down" and my GF is 8 years younger. Now I'm 37, she's 29 but I already told her I don't want to wait next 6 years or so to have a kid. She's ok with that. I agree that many men are also reluctant to have kids when the woman is most fertile, so it's also their fault when the woman gets pregnant in her late 30s. The easiest way to fix this is to chose younger GFs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/24 10:06 AM |
| 1 | Would you give a woman over 30 years old a chance if she is looking for marriage?I'll correct you: Men desired by women shit on women over 30 online. Saying an average woman in early 30s cannot find men is flat out absolute bogus. They only don't get matches from men of the same quality they hooked up with in their 20s when they were in their prime. And when they do, these men make it absolutely clear they want them for fun only. The problem is that a 33 years old women searching for a relationship thinks she can afford to swipe left on the same number of guys like she could… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/24 01:31 PM |
| 1 | Would you give a woman over 30 years old a chance if she is looking for marriage?Sorry, I don't wish anything bad on anyone but these pregnancies at 36+ or even 40+ are not only an issue of fertility per se. These women who somehow couldn’t (or were not trying to) find out the right guy during their most fertile age think, that’s just a matter of conception, pregnancy without problems and then giving a smooth birth. And once they get over these obstacles, they’re safe and they “got away with it”. But unfortunately there are other unpleasant issues such as all sorts of geneti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/24 01:11 PM |
| 8 | Would you give a woman over 30 years old a chance if she is looking for marriage?Don't know how old you are but if you're over 30, it's perfectly fine for them to ask about something serious. Not because of marriage but because of children. If a woman in her early thirties tells me she's not planning to have kids in the next let's say 3-4 years and I want to have kids, I'm leaving her. I won’t risk having a first-born and maybe only kid with 39 years-old first-time mother only because she wanted to live an easy life at an age that is biologically set up for reproduction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/24 12:48 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: How do you view women that approach and make the first move?I'm above average for sure but never a top 1 %. As I said, I have niche looks and when women like pale skin, strawberry blond hair and green eyes, they are often interested. There aren't many men in that specific bracket who look better than me. But in the context of overall population, many Causasian women in Central Europe don't like pale men or light hair at all. And I'm talking about women approaching here, not in South America or Asia. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/24 09:00 AM |
| 10 | What role does IQ play in a man's attractiveness?Women don’t care about intelligence per se. They like street-smart men who can convert intelligence into wealth and status. That’s what most women mean by saying they like intelligent men. Only a very small number of sophisticated women really finds attractive for example some intellectual interests or hobbies. On the other hand, many women are suspicious of a man who invests time into intellectual hobbies that don’t help him get either wealthy or improve his status. They subconsciously see it a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/24 11:52 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: How do you view women that approach and make the first move?I'm not a top 1 % and I've got approached by woman on several occasions. Some of them I was not attracted to ofc. My looks are a specific dating market niche and that maybe helped. It was almost always in some club. It's more hard to project choosing signals in a noisy and crowded environment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/24 09:35 AM |
| 2 | Do most men on dating apps just try to match with virtually every woman?You live in a wrong country. American women are so fat that those who aren't are treated like superstars. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/24 11:37 PM |
| 3 | Do most men on dating apps just try to match with virtually every woman?Yeah, good point I noticed that as well. Women often have this funny strategy to put 5 years old photo where they are younger and 30 pounds lighter as their first. Later photos show the unflattering current state of afairs, so they cannot technically say they lie, because they show some current photos as well. But they hope men will swipe right on the misleading first one and then somehow tolerate the reality. But who knows, men maybe do it as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/24 11:32 PM |
| 2 | Do most men on dating apps just try to match with virtually every woman?I actually think that is more of an urban legend. I remember being to places where I was very much in demand and me swiping like crazy did not prevent me from getting dozens of likes per day. Likes from women who swiped right before me and I saw those like because I had Platinum. I doubt the algorithm punished me for a lot of swiping. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/24 11:26 PM |
| – | Let's say women's standards are too high. Now what?there's some truth to the first point i guess, a lot of women expect men to be masculine and mentally strong, even more so than in the US but honestly to some degree a lot of women are like this everywhere. and i still see a lot of guys who look kinda 'beta' for a lack of better word with good looking women here too, they probably just aren't as whiny as some american equivalents It can be but also when you take the overall female population in the age category 20–35 and you compare the US with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/24 01:01 PM |
| – | Let's say women's standards are too high. Now what?Option 2: useless on a macrolevel, because a man’s attractiveness is perceived relatively (in comparison to other men) not absolutely. If all men grew 2 inches in height, women would consider 6’2 what they now consider 6’ and 6’4 what they now consider 6’2. If every man would make more money, women’s standards for a beta provider would generally increase. But it can help specific men with potential to either improve their looks or at least make more money. Option 4: never going to happen in the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/24 11:52 AM |
| 4 | Men need to stop believing and spreading the idea that having sex with a lot of women is more ideal than just having sex with women you can find through your passionsHowever, it is not good to stick your dick in as many women as possible just for the sake of doing it, or making a game out of it. Men are just thrilled to have sex with different women. They don't have to talk about it and often even can't because they are in a relationship. Out of men who have the potential, some are able to control that urging and don't cheat, others cheat. Honestly, a secular man can feel deep love for his woman and fuck some other chick only based on pure attraction. Becaus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/24 10:16 AM |
| – | Women's dating advice comes from a place of ignorant privilegeAttractive men who are successful with women won’t usually tell you how to seduce them but when they talk openly and don’t have the need to virtue signal or gaslight, they will give you the best description of female nature that can be used – in case you have at least certain amount of potential – to optimise your behaviour in order increase your chances. It’s an indirect advice. A guy who is desired not because he splashes money and provides has the privilege to observe women behaving in their … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/24 03:20 PM |
| -4 | The problem with the paternity test debateIndeed asking for a paternity test just mean the woman doesn't deserve to be trusted to begin with, leading me to question the quatilty of the choice and ask myself why should one entertain this kind of relation to begin with It’s not like every pregnant woman discussed with her partner the idea to have kids. Lot of women claim that they are on pills and then say “whoops, something went wrong and now I’m pregnant” but it was totally intentional from their side. I think that this scenario – nowad… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/24 12:01 PM |
| 2 | Most Women are too trendy to trust their dating advice, so asking them is pointlessWrong. 90 % of men who claim to be attracted to obese women say that because they are not able to get laid with a slimmer chick. But they don't want to look like total losers so they fabricate this narrative that they date 260 pounds 5'4 Jane out of preference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/24 11:15 AM |
| 4 | Most Women are too trendy to trust their dating advice, so asking them is pointless1) Ask any gender/sexuality related question. 2) Scroll through answers from female redditors. 3) Find the most prevailing answer. 4) The complete opposite or antithesis is the right answer / the reality. Anyone who does not understand this dynamic by now is either totally dumb, or he knows what the real answers are and he has this weird need read through a bunch of gaslighting and virtue signalling answers – this need is usually characterised by the word cope. During my time on Reddit, probably… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/24 11:09 AM |
| 3 | Jordan Peterson tells young men to sacrifice themselves and endure. Young men should suck it up. It is my belief that men have the right to opt out of a society that discriminates against them.The real reason why Peterson wants men to persist even without being rewarded is his inner fear of what the world will become once men lose their primal evolutionary stimulation to do something in this world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/24 03:49 PM |
| 1 | Women complaining from not getting approached anymoreNo offence but that’s how women operate, not men. Most men know very well where they stand and don’t try to openly go after an 8 when they are a 5. It’s the other way around. Female 4s give IOSs to male 8s but not to male 4s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/24 10:28 AM |
| 3 | Women complaining from not getting approached anymoreFor every handsome or solid looking guy who is socially retarded and cannot read cues from women there are like four other guys, who don't get any cues and are socially calibrated well enough to know what's going on. They stop at point 1 – look for nonverbal cues. They look, don't get any and because they know how extremely small chance they have cold approaching without IOIs, they just give up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/24 10:28 PM |
| -3 | You will not get arrested for approaching a woman.Being invisible to someone is not being repulsive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/24 08:54 AM |
| – | I think women aren't really attracted to guys in their leagueAmerica is a different universe but I'm always kinda surprised when I see British standards of female beauty. Especially how a lot of wifes and GFs of young, in shape super wealthy football players look like. These chicks would barely pull a decent looking white collar worker in other European states, because they are chubby and usually some very ugly facial make-up. But maybe I'm wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/24 11:21 AM |
| – | I think women aren't really attracted to guys in their leagueItaly has probably the fittest women in Europe. And it goes for men as well. I don't like some of the Italian manners but everytime I visit, I love how fit the people are. I also live in Central Europe and the difference is huge. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/24 11:17 AM |
| – | I think women aren't really attracted to guys in their leagueThe higher percentage of fat and obese women in society, the more men are forced to date them / fuck them unless they want to stay single or sexless. Tbf America has its own fair share of fat or totally out of shape men as well. But if you’d put an average American female in her late 20s for example to northern Italy, where (at least from my point of view) the women are the most in shape you’ll ever see in a predominantly Caucasian society, her value would drastically decrease. I saw a lot of Am… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/24 11:14 AM |
| 2 | If women are hypergamous by nature, then why are there so many women in society who do not 'Date Up'She likes your genes and does not need your money. You should have figured that by now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/24 09:08 PM |
| 3 | Why are girls misleading on what tinder profiles are attractiveThis | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/24 08:37 PM |
| 2 | Why are girls misleading on what tinder profiles are attractiveThere are two scenarios: Either you don’t look shirtless good enough and she avoided these photos with honest intentions. Or you have a good body and you could pass being shirtless. But she chose less attractive photos of you because she wanted you to have bad results and strengthen your bond to her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/24 08:36 PM |
| 2 | CMV: (long) You'd see less guys flocking to the ''manosphere'' if people were honest about the unfairness of dating.I agree to a point but what women don't understand is that being polite on this topic is doing more harm than then spitting out the truth. I know for a fact that a lot of unattractive men would feel much better and relieved if a woman would actually say: "I don’t find you physically attractive but good luck." Instead it’s the same bullshit over and over again and men split into two categories. Either they are fully aware of the reality and it just makes them more furious that someone lies to the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 03:15 PM |
| 3 | CMV: (long) You'd see less guys flocking to the ''manosphere'' if people were honest about the unfairness of dating.From what I observed over the last few years, most men who are not flat out idiots don’t complain about women behaving naturally but about them being very dishonest about their true feelings and motivations and doing a lot of gas lighting and virtue signalling. With all due respect you have to be a double digit IQ moron to blame women for doing what the environment allows them to do. But all the reasoning behind their actions and the unwillingness to call spade a spade is what makes men furious.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 02:37 PM |
| 1 | The feminist idea that it’s “natural” that dating for men is hard is peak toxic masculinityCannot speak for others but feminism is far from blue pilled from my POV. When a man deals with a modern feminist, it's the most red pill experience he can ever have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 09:42 AM |
| 1 | The feminist idea that it’s “natural” that dating for men is hard is peak toxic masculinityFrom my personal experience, there are women who consider themselves feminists and are fuckable (looks-wise). But the more attractive men they deal with, the more they tend to abandon their ideological positions and behave like the good ol’ female mammals they are and are biologically/evolutionary programmed to be. The prototypical unattractive feminist with men’s clothes, short hair dyed to blue and 40 pounds overweight never gets the attraction of any conventionally attractive men, so she keep… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 11:00 AM |
| 9 | The feminist idea that it’s “natural” that dating for men is hard is peak toxic masculinityWell, a lot of feminists absolutely despise scientific fields like evolutionary psychology and evolutionary biology. Because they provide socially non-determined explanations for differences between male and female behaviour that result in practical differences that feminists want to fight against. But because hypocrisy if often their very strong discipline, in some very specific situations they can take over the narrative that suits them. And yes, some feminists really claim what OP mentions an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 10:47 AM |
| 1 | People who assume romantically unsuccessful men just need to "talk to women" more are naiveHaving female friends is totally useless for grown men that want to improve their romantic success with women with one exception: you can watch how they behave in contrast to what they say. But picking up on a woman’s behaviour based on how she acts towards a guy she considers a "friend" and implementing these findings in an effort to pursue other women is an abysmal mistake. It’s like trying to heal a wound with acid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 12:02 AM |
| 5 | There's a huge difference between what younger women want and what older women want which I believe causes a lot of confusion between what works best for datingGreat to hear that from a woman. I’ve been laughed at a while ago when I wrote that as women grow older they leverage their declining looks by being super assertive almost to the point where they throw themselves at guys who they want to sleep with. And they are usually quite experienced and know how to press the right buttons. Many younger guys may prefer that over younger women who tend to do the bare minimum. The wall is a bit of a cope for guys who believe that women at certain age will fina… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/24 02:58 PM |
| 7 | Why "Marriage Material" isn't a compliment to men and being the "hookup guy" is often superiorIn regard to this topic, to all guys who want a relationship and use dating ups, I’ll give you the following advice: If you are attractive enough, the best thing you can do is to put “short term fun” on your Tinder profile. Being in a relationship where your female partner considers you a hook-up material is a win for life. Tbh. personally, I cannot even imagine how a man must feel when he does not fulfil that criteria but unfortunately millions of married and LTR men are in this situation and p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 02:31 PM |
| – | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?That's bogus, if she really came to an enlightenment that casual sex is not good for her she would frame it a totally different way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/24 12:22 PM |
| – | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?Ofc this kind of honesty in a such context is extremely stupid and the fact that she does not realize it only proves that she is dumb herself. On the other hand, I’ll play bit of a devil’s advocate here. Let’s be honest, millions of LTRs and marriages constitute of a man and a woman, where the woman would not give that guy one minute of her time just for casual sex. Not because she wouldn’t engage in such activities but because the guy is not attractive enough but he has resources and attitude t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/24 12:17 PM |
| – | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?Men are not offended by being seen as "husband material" but they can be offended by not being seen as a hook-up material (some of them have the self-awareness so they know it's a fact and someone is just stating the obvious). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/24 12:01 PM |
| – | Blue Pill men: Would you be happy being the marriage material or someone she would have casual sex with?Women actually oscillate between being extremely dishonest in certain scenarios and settings and super honest in some other. Internet, some kind of interview or being in a larger group are usually the scenarios where women are being most dishonest. On the other hand, the most honest women I’ve ever came across where those I hooked up with and they somehow thought they’ll never see me again just because they live in a different country/on another continent or I was abroad. Women in a relationship… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/24 11:49 AM |
| 2 | If the government passed a law saying all premarital sex had to be prostitution (even for only a small $ amount), I think men would lose all interest in itThat whole post is a total mess and somehow does not make sense but especially this line is absurd: What men really want out of sex isn’t so much physical pleasure as it is validation and social status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 02:53 PM |
| – | Only way for a man to win in a war is to dodge the draft..Immediately after the invasion, there was a strong dedication amongst Ukrainians to fight, especially after Bucha and other atrocities. They pulled off quite remarkable stint with the August 2022 offensive and relied on the West to give them modern weaponry. Unfortunately, it came too late and in not enough numbers with all these smartasses like the coward Schulz being afraid of “escalation”. Ukraine had high hopes for the 2023 summer offensive but they lacked in every department, especially air… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 01:17 PM |
| – | Only way for a man to win in a war is to dodge the draft..Russia wasn’t able to conquer Kiev when Ukrainians were starved of modern weaponry because Germany wanted its cheap gas to save the planet and Trump basically blackmailed Zelensky to give him material on Biden. That was the main reason why Russians gained most of the Ukrainian territory they occupy up to date. Unfortunately, offense is always much more demanding than defence and Ukraine just don’t have the sheer amount of manpower and weaponry to reconquer its territory. The main reason why the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 01:01 PM |
| – | Only way for a man to win in a war is to dodge the draft..Ukraine would never want to join NATO if they were not attacked in 2014. Only the Russian imperialism and small dick post-USSR syndrome stimulated Ukrainians to think about joining NATO. As for the EU, the reality is that many Europeans and European politicians don’t want Ukraine in the EU but they don’t have the courage to admit it. And the real reason why Russia hates the idea of Ukraine being in the EU is that it that Ukraine would benefit economically plus Ukrainians would probably have to f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 12:53 PM |
| 0 | Only way for a man to win in a war is to dodge the draft..Even if Ukraine loses some of it's pre-2014 territory (which they will), it's not a defeat if the rest of Ukraine is free of the Russian rule. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/24 08:02 PM |
| 3 | Only way for a man to win in a war is to dodge the draft..They will lose the war in terms of not being able to regain their territory from 2014 but they will preserve their statehood in the rest of the country and that's a victory. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/24 08:00 PM |
| 19 | Only way for a man to win in a war is to dodge the draft..There are tons of Ukrainian refugees in Central Europe – women who were given the free pass and men, who either were abroad when the war started or bribed someone so that they could leave. What strikes me as most brutal about this situation is that women were not allowed to flee because they are the so called weak gender, soft gender or whatever. They are being considered as more important from an evolutionary POV and that’s why they can leave. In order to preserve the nation, you need women – m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/24 01:09 PM |
| 2 | Passport bros are a symptom of a problem men did not createWestern and especially American women are trying to fool themselves to the cope that all western men who travel abroad have to use money to get women. Ofc there are many unattractive border line disgusting men like these old fat British pricks in Bangkok. But you have also men, who somehow don't fit into the Western standard of beauty but do much better in different continents or continents (you) or they just can have frequent access to better quality women (me; even though I have to admit I als… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/24 08:51 AM |
| 11 | Passport bros are a symptom of a problem men did not createI'm not from the US either but I have a theory why American women so frequently start a post with “I don’t care about passport bros” and end it with clear signs of contempt. They don’t care about these flat-out unattractive men who travel abroad to find luck. But they are bothered when they see decent men, who can get women in the US fleeing for other continents to meet girls who are 60 pounds lighter while not depending mostly on their wallet but their looks. Because white men are – like it or … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 11:22 PM |
| 7 | Passport bros are a symptom of a problem men did not createBelieve it or not, there are countries, maybe it's better to say even continents, were being white, 6 feet tall and having light eyes (green/blue) and light hair is being considered very attractive while you don’t have to have a face like Brad Pitt or a body like an Olympic swimmer. When you have these traits and you have decent face and somewhat athletic body, you get loads of action with local women (Asian, Hispanic, African whatever) and I’m not talking about leftovers but young, slim, attrac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 10:54 PM |
| 6 | The cold reality is that men "settle" for women who they aren't madly in love with tooAnd vice versa. It's not a new "epidemic" this was the reality for centuries. Only 20th century somehow brought the idea that it's bad or shallow to be in a marriage with a man/woman you don't unconditionally love or are physically attracted to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 05:41 PM |
| 11 | The cold reality is that men "settle" for women who they aren't madly in love with tooShe lacks the awareness, because she can get causal sex from men who are above her looks match and is unable to admit to herself that she won't be able to lockdown these men for a relationship. People always say dating apps changed women but in reality they only unlocked certain mental patterns that were suppressed by a different social reality in the past. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 05:34 PM |
| 1 | Society and women definitely equate being unable to attract a woman with being a loserI mostly agree. Women are usually those who call out men on their whining (regardless of how much justified it is but that’s another topic). But it’s men who use the capacity to attract women as tool to put some other males beneath them in the social hierarchy. Because it’s like the ultimate combination of genetic qualities and social performance assessment. Men’s attractiveness stems from his looks and his socioeconomic status. Even though I’d strongly argue that the attraction towards looks is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 02:42 PM |
| 1 | Apparently women turn “demisexual” around average menIt’s a matter of self-respect. Men who want to enter a relationship with a woman want to feel they are genuinely attractive to them. I’m not saying they need to have sex on a first or a second date but if a woman in 2024 thinks she’ll go on 5 dates in two months with a man she wants to be in a relationship with while denying him sex, it’s absurd. Especially if she has some history about her and the man knows something from their social circle. Because even if they really end up forming some kind… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 03:28 PM |
| 4 | Apparently women turn “demisexual” around average menI know you won’t believe me but let me tell you that in this world, there is a shitload of relationships or even marriages where then main motivation for the man is to get sex with either the most attractive woman he can get or basically any women. These women often bring no intellectual value, they don’t share any hobbies and the guys sometimes even don’t enjoy talking to them. But men can secure a better looking women for relationship than for hook-up and for some of them relationship is the o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 03:10 PM |
| – | "you are not entitled to sex. It is not a necessity" is a bad argumentYou can bet your you know what that many people died because of blue balls. Do know what’s the most common trait of mass shooting perpetrators? Ofc I’m not saying that you can justify any act of aggression by that and 999/1000 of individuals who are rejected by society don’t harm anyone. But of those who decide to cross the Rubicon almost every single one was somewhat rejected by the gender usually he was attracted to. There are some very small exceptions but the correlation is very strong. Ment… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 01:45 PM |
| – | "you are not entitled to sex. It is not a necessity" is a bad argumentWhen women downplay mental consequences of being totally undesirable as man, they lack the experience and that’s why they cannot relate. Because 99 % of women in the western world that are unsatisfied with the attention from men are not deprived of any, they just don’t get the attention from men they consider attractive and therefore they lack the validation. But let’s be real here, this really has no sustainable solution. You cannot force women to be attracted to someone they’re not. And even i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 01:30 PM |
| – | Instead of complaining about being pumped and dumped, women should try to understand why some men only seem to value them for only sex...namely that they don't add much to a man's life“All theory is grey, my friend. But forever green is the tree of life.” Men that are considered attractive by most women will not stick around unless they get sex on like a third date (and the most attractive even sooner). Men who are willing to date a chick for two months until they get in her panties are usually not being considered attractive by most women. There might be some sweet spot in between every now and then but it’s not the rule. Some men would usually tolerate sexless dating for an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/24 09:44 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: We hear a lot about the "Modern woman". Describe the "Modern Male" that WE have to deal with when datingWell, maybe you could elaborate a bit more on that or it's a pointless rant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 02:57 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: We hear a lot about the "Modern woman". Describe the "Modern Male" that WE have to deal with when datingThey are often alt-right because they think that women have leverage over average men due to social and cultural changes that made them less dependent on men. In a way they’re right but what they don’t understand that women haven’t been "reprogrammed" they are just able to behave more natural. So, when they claim that women’s natural behaviour would have been different without birth control, Tinder or labour equality they are tolly wrong. Because all these attributes only allowed them to behave … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 10:31 AM |
| – | Vogue dating columnist casually admits that women have it hard in dating because they need to compete for a minority of menWomen also have their "self-improvement" tool and it's called body positivity. But it works in an indirect way. Do you know why fat chicks claim all the time, that slim girls being considered attractive is a "social construct" and everybody is beautiful? Because they know that being obese really decreases their chances of pairing with high-value men (won't say hooking up because some males have a fetish for landwhales and they like to fuck them even when they are not desperate). But because they… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 01:03 AM |
| – | Vogue dating columnist casually admits that women have it hard in dating because they need to compete for a minority of menThey believe because they were able to fuck with more attractive guy like you. Now they think they can lock at least similar guy for a relationship. Men point this out all the time, claiming it's irrational. But what triggers women behaviour in that regard has nothing to do with rationality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 12:54 AM |
| – | Vogue dating columnist casually admits that women have it hard in dating because they need to compete for a minority of menHonestly, you need to preach this on so many subreddits that it's not even funny. As a man, when I write something similar, I usually get laughed at or dismissed. And women never support my take because they just don't like to say the unpleasent truth. On the other hand they absolutely love to lie and virtue signal in order to look good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 12:34 AM |
| – | Vogue dating columnist casually admits that women have it hard in dating because they need to compete for a minority of menBingo. I say this all the time. Loads of men often say stuff like "how on Earth does she think that she can get that man with a looks like that". Men often claim this because: 1) They find attractive much larger group of women than vice versa. 2) They sometimes have sex even with women they consider very mildly attractive and they are just a notch above being considered totally unattractive by them. 3) They operate in a dream world where they mathematically expect monogamy to be the rule. That's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 12:22 AM |
| – | Vogue dating columnist casually admits that women have it hard in dating because they need to compete for a minority of menWell, how many times have you seen women openly confessing something that would make them look "shallow" or would point out something outside of men's control is important? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 11:46 PM |
| – | Vogue dating columnist casually admits that women have it hard in dating because they need to compete for a minority of menYet it's men who need to be illuminated. Most of women know how it works but deny it because they are hardwired to look fair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 11:44 PM |
| 1 | Male sexlessness should be taken about as seriously as the orgasm gap.Why do you think these two factors are mutually exclusive? I have zero doubts that more attractive men with same tools make women climax more often. Not only because women inherently value their genetic quality but also because being attractive usually means being physically fit, so they are probably capable of better and longer physical effort as lovers. Another variable is that some women – and the size of this group is far from being insignificant – requires a man’s penis to be over a certain… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/24 01:58 PM |
| 0 | Male sexlessness should be taken about as seriously as the orgasm gap.You're a woman. All women need to do to be reasonable attractive for a vast group of men is to lose weight. Unless you have a hideous face, you’ll be just about fine. The reason you gained confidence after you got in shape is that you could seemingly tell you’re more attractive to guys you like. Because make no mistake, when women say they get rejected or they cannot find men, it means they get rejected by men who meet their standards. Other men are invisible. When men get repeatedly rejected, t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 09:07 PM |
| 0 | Male sexlessness should be taken about as seriously as the orgasm gap.I’m sorry but I have to totally disagree with many of your points. You understandably have more practical experiences with how the looks of men correlate with their willingness to please women in bed. My assumption was based on some anecdotical evidence from both men and women plus some logical reasoning. Won’t refute your experiences. But from what I’ve personally witnessed in my life, men who are less attractive tend to stick more to one woman and they often put up with more shit, as they’re a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/24 10:16 PM |
| 2 | Why haven’t more men quit the market?It's a combination of deeply embedded biological need and a huge social cope blaming other factors than their looks. Unattractive men want to believe all this sigma male / no fap / 50 approaches per day BS because some truths are hard to accept. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/24 12:15 PM |
| – | Sexual liberation is incompatible with civilizationI see this debate over and over again. The cold hard truth is: 1) Sexlessness amongst young men is a colossal psycho-societal problem. 2) Sexual liberation for women and their equal position on the labour market motivates them much more to select men based in their genetic qualities. You cannot be seen as a “provider” with an average salary nowadays. 3) Despite women being much more picky about starting a family, 4/5 of childless women after fertility age regret not having kids. 4) You cannot co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/24 11:42 AM |
| 3 | Male sexlessness should be taken about as seriously as the orgasm gap.I’m not a woman but I can tell you one thing. The more attractive men are, the more selfish they are when it comes to their sexual needs. Not a 100 % corelation but a strong one. And unfortunately for women, when they select men for sex, they don’t have the "will this guy be willing to give me an orgasm" radar. They just see he’s hot. So, they unintentionally pick the selfish guy who just wants to increase his body count from 52 to 53. And because that given chick is probably not the best lookin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/24 11:18 AM |
| 3 | Male sexlessness should be taken about as seriously as the orgasm gap.Pardon my language but that's total BS. There are millions of men in the western world who basically picked the shortest straw in the most important departments that determine their overall attractiveness. Usually being short and ugly are the worst features and when you don’t have the mental capacity to make a decent amount of money through legal work, you’re screwed. Be healthy, do sports – gyms are flooded with short ugly men who are desperately trying to gain some muscle as a leverage. Usuall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/24 10:34 AM |
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