AngerInducer Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
5	What score did you get in this social intelligence test?		AngerInducer	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/18 04:40 PM

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
1	CMV: "The Wall" "AF/BB" and other phrases TRP throws around are just revenge wish fulfilment on their part. And only an idiot thinks that men don’t either, albeit a little later. But the opposite is shown up to about the age of 50 in men. Attractiveness is more than just looks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/18 05:59 PM
1	CMV: "The Wall" "AF/BB" and other phrases TRP throws around are just revenge wish fulfilment on their part. Okay, that's an argument about degree though. The core phenomena is true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/18 11:14 AM
1	CMV: "The Wall" "AF/BB" and other phrases TRP throws around are just revenge wish fulfilment on their part. According to your graph women only start feeling the burn most men feel at 20 at around 40 years of age. It's more like 35 year old women, rather than 40 year old women. But a more interesting observation is that men under 30 seem to have it harder than women, but men over 30 have it easier. That's almost exactly the "wall" claim.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/18 05:36 PM
1	CMV: "The Wall" "AF/BB" and other phrases TRP throws around are just revenge wish fulfilment on their part. Women in their 30s STILL TURN DOWN A LOT OF MEN FOR JUST DATING. We're not even talking about sex. Irrelevant, what matters is their relative standing. Here's a graph from a paper showing women slowly become less desirable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/18 05:10 PM
1	What's the deal with cunnilingus? Personally, I think he's missing out. Missing out on HPV?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/18 12:25 PM
3	Am I saying something that doesn’t make sense they act like I’m some asshole? The law shouldn't take into account irrational beliefs. Either A) a man is made partially responsible for something he has no control over or B) a woman is made solely responsible for something she has complete control over but irrational reservations about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/18 06:45 PM
1	Am I saying something that doesn’t make sense they act like I’m some asshole? > I get what you are saying but if woman could just say "Yeah I don't want to have that kid" and the fetus would magically disappear from their body it would be way more comparable. Why does it matter that it's slightly more difficult to get an abortion than just just snapping your fingers? Surely that's just an argument that the man should only be liable for a maximum of half the cost of obtaining an abortion. > But even then thats what the sex really is, birth control can fail and just having …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/18 05:26 PM
4	CMV: A Lot To Possibly Even Most Of Women's Complaint about Male Attention Is Really Just Another Form Of Humble Bragging Well there's some honesty at last! :p	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/18 11:49 PM
1	CMV: A Lot To Possibly Even Most Of Women's Complaint about Male Attention Is Really Just Another Form Of Humble Bragging Are you going to make an argument that isn't sarcastic or just the contrary assertion?	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/18 11:39 PM
1	CMV: A Lot To Possibly Even Most Of Women's Complaint about Male Attention Is Really Just Another Form Of Humble Bragging Yeah, you're not fooling anyone. I've just explained why you're wrong. Even Guardian feminists admit it boosts their egos.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/18 11:30 PM
1	CMV: A Lot To Possibly Even Most Of Women's Complaint about Male Attention Is Really Just Another Form Of Humble Bragging Some women do this. It's in the same vein as women who emphasize their high standards in a partner; the implication being she's worth it. Most women may experience male attention but the frequency is different. That's why women who humblebrag about male attention usually emphasize the degree of the "problem". It can also play into feminist narratives of female independence that are very en vogue.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/18 10:04 PM
1	Women owe everything to men If you support affirmative action or many other feminist policies you're still damaging the "better men's" legitimate interests. I've noticed this technique from feminists: when it suits them they frame a discussion in terms of collective groups; but when it doesn't suit them they appeal to individualism. Not that I really agree with OP, but he's clearly making an argument in response to feminists' collective-level critiques.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/18 12:14 PM
1	If the right to have an abortion is a woman's right because its their body why should a man pay child support for a decision of a woman? I'll do this once more, but I don't have much hope you'll produce a meaningful argument! Never once have you shown why my argument is wrong. Instead each response is built on the same tedious fallacies I've shown are false. The issue is, who pays for the kid? The woman, who chose to have the child. It’s simple, the parents, the sperm and the egg owners should. Again, responsibilities must arise out of acts. Responsibility for a child must arise out of creating the child; not out of genetic simil…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/18 09:45 PM
1	If the right to have an abortion is a woman's right because its their body why should a man pay child support for a decision of a woman? Again, it's not clear in what sense you are a parent. Make an argument please, this is getting into shit-test territory.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/18 06:13 PM
1	If the right to have an abortion is a woman's right because its their body why should a man pay child support for a decision of a woman? This is how the law are written though, and not without reason. The reason is it's expedient. We're debating what's ethical, not what's expedient. Parents are responsible for their child, pretty standard common sense. That sentence has a lot to unpack. Is the man a parent? Also "common sense" isn't an argument. The rest of the nation agree with it and the law Appeal to populism. You've got nothing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/18 04:54 PM
1	If the right to have an abortion is a woman's right because its their body why should a man pay child support for a decision of a woman? You went down a weird slippery slope. Do you even know what a "slippery slope fallacy" is? I didn't make one. A baby takes a sperm and an egg. ...And gestation. I notice you don't want to talk about that part much! The owners of the sperm and eggs should be responsible for the baby. Even if a woman rapes a 13 year old boy? That’s pretty standard common sense Luckily in ethics we use reason -- not Venicedreaming's "common sense"!	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/18 04:33 PM
1	If the right to have an abortion is a woman's right because its their body why should a man pay child support for a decision of a woman? Again the Hitler analogy doesn’t make sense because she did not start the Holocaust. Ah, but Hitler's mother's act was necessary (but not sufficient) for the Holocaust. That's identical as in our scenario. On this topic, the very act of sex started the conception of a baby. You could say the very act of joining Tinder started the chain. Maybe Tinder is liable for child support? You arbitrarily want the chain of responsibility to start with sex. But we have abortion now. Abortion severs the chain…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/18 03:05 PM
1	If the right to have an abortion is a woman's right because its their body why should a man pay child support for a decision of a woman? You're right that this is where the disagreement comes. The problem is there's always an earlier link in the chain. Hitler's mother in some sense caused the holocaust. My argument is that the chain of responsibility breaks when the woman is given a completely free choice to have the child or not. If you agree women have agency, and it's her free choice, then I can see no counter argument!	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/18 01:51 PM
1	If the right to have an abortion is a woman's right because its their body why should a man pay child support for a decision of a woman? My argument wasn't an analogy. I merely used the analogy to help illustrate a point, but it seems to have confused you. The point is that, strictly logically, necessity of an action for an outcome doesn't imply responsibility. So again, the onus is on you to show by what theory of responsibility the man is responsible.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/18 01:37 PM
1	If the right to have an abortion is a woman's right because its their body why should a man pay child support for a decision of a woman? A man's role is necessary but not sufficient. You need to show sufficiency for your argument to work. Otherwise arguments like this work also: it's necessary for a knife to stab someone, therefore knife manufacturers are responsible for stabbings.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/18 01:06 PM
1	If the right to have an abortion is a woman's right because its their body why should a man pay child support for a decision of a woman? You keep confusing the question. It's not about what a man "should do". It's irrelevant the implication for society as a whole. And it's also not about what people will vote for. It's just about who, in a given scenario, is responsible for the child. Unless you're willing to answer that question directly, you're reframing the discussion dishonestly. You stick your dick unprotected, that’s on you. True, I've acknowledged that. The man is responsible for pregnancy. It’s not easy to get a chick pre…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/18 09:01 AM
1	If the right to have an abortion is a woman's right because its their body why should a man pay child support for a decision of a woman? In the absence of the ability to garnish child support, men would be free to knock up as many women as they please, then just shrug and say, "I'm not paying for shit. We're not married." Men would be free to say "if you want the child, you pay for it". It would be the mother potentially burdening the state, not the man at all. As such, although you may not like to burden the state, it's most certainly not the man's burden! The focus on state burden is irrelevant to whether the man has responsibi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/18 08:48 AM
3	If the right to have an abortion is a woman's right because its their body why should a man pay child support for a decision of a woman? "I mean, derrrr, obviously it should be, like, 100% the woman's choice... And 50% the man's responsibility. How else am I gonna get a man to stick around???"	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/18 08:50 PM
1	If the right to have an abortion is a woman's right because its their body why should a man pay child support for a decision of a woman? Oh. Well given the scenario they both are. Now you're not even trying to make an argument! :) A child cannot be created without impregnation. Ok? You can't boil an egg without water. Impregnation is necessary for pregnancy, but it's not sufficient. You need sufficiency to make your argument work.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/18 08:33 PM
1	If the right to have an abortion is a woman's right because its their body why should a man pay child support for a decision of a woman? BOTH parties created the child The fact that the woman chooses whether to have the child proves he doesn't create the child in any ethical sense. Your arguments repeatedly revolve around equating impregnation with creation of a child. The man partly creates an embryo, the woman transforms that embryo into a child. That transformation is not inevitable -- in fact it's 100% within the woman's control.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/18 07:24 PM
2	If the right to have an abortion is a woman's right because its their body why should a man pay child support for a decision of a woman? Firstly, this isn't about what a hypthetical person "should do". It's about who, in a given scenario, is responsible for the child. Secondly, in your scenario, both "morons" are responsible for her pregnancy, but only one "moron" is responsible for creating a child. Thirdly, as said, what "the rest of you" want is neither here nor there. I never said society should pay, I merely said the woman is 100% responsible.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/18 06:35 PM
1	If the right to have an abortion is a woman's right because its their body why should a man pay child support for a decision of a woman? If you didn't bust in her, she wouldn't be able to choose if her pregnancy becomes a child in the first place. If you want to not be a supporting parent to a child you created, don't create one. You don't get to choose AFTER it's in her stomach. Too late. Firstly, this isn't about what a hypthetical person "should do". It's about who, in a given scenario, is responsible for the child. Second, the man isn't choosing anything. He's just simply not responsible.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/18 06:32 PM
1	If the right to have an abortion is a woman's right because its their body why should a man pay child support for a decision of a woman? When a woman can shake your hands and get pregnant we will revisit this topic. That's intellectually dishonest, the same principles apply now. You're formulating responsibility based on DNA, not on the act of creating the child. Responsibilities should arise from acts. Right now she’s pregnant because you stuck your dick in her. Or you were raped as a child. Or she lied about birth control. Etc. So both of you need to pay for it before the rest of us have to foot the bill. Whether you or society…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/18 05:46 PM
1	If the right to have an abortion is a woman's right because its their body why should a man pay child support for a decision of a woman? The woman chooses if a pregnancy becomes a child. Therefore it's her responsibility. You're the one who wants to have it be 100% your own choice, but 50% a man's responsibility. YOU should take personal responsibility.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/18 05:33 PM
1	If the right to have an abortion is a woman's right because its their body why should a man pay child support for a decision of a woman? What happens if the woman shakes your hand and uses the DNA to make a child? That will be possible at some point in the future. You're attempting to equate responsibility of pregnancy with responsibility of a child. The woman chooses if a pregnancy becomes a child. Therefore it's her responsibility.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/18 05:33 PM
1	If the right to have an abortion is a woman's right because its their body why should a man pay child support for a decision of a woman? Nothing you've said is an argument against the OP. It remains the choice of women whether to have a child, so why should it be a man's responsibility? One answer is to say that people are automatically responsible for genetically related descendants. But say in the future it's possible to steal DNA with a handshake and create someone else's baby... A far better argument is that people should be responsible for their choices, not use of their DNA. Then, if women have access to abortion, it is a w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/18 03:27 PM