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| 2 | CMV: What’s the point of marriage when it only benefits women?Flair does not check out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/23 09:18 AM |
| 1 | What is your opinion on YOUR children being/wanting to be transgender or homosexual?You are just being disingenuous. You are attempting to decredibilize your opponent by making it seem like they do not care / do not find issue with the matters you listed because the logic of their argument can be used to oppose said matter while they are not even the subject of the discussion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/23 11:56 AM |
| 5 | Can we all agree that positive moral attributes such as kindness, sweetness, patience, and selflessness are not *sexually* attractive attributes for men?The actual thing that woman are attracted to would actually be a "Gentle Demon", i.e., a man able to do both great good and great evil, or, more specifically, a man that will use his actualized potential for evil to do good. Such a man is by itself rare, which lead to two possible strategies: Bringing out the good out of an evil man. Bringing out the evil out a good man. The first strategy is the archetypal romance story (Beauty and the Beast). The second one is not an actual option. You can app… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/23 06:44 AM |
| – | Has anyone here ever read Mark Greene and Man Box Culture?There is not, it was an euphemism. "Acting like a girl." is, according to you "What I consider to be "Acting like a girl.".". Using an argument of authority, which are weak by design, with yourself being the authority, is the paroxysm of arrogance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/23 06:39 AM |
| 1 | Has anyone here ever read Mark Greene and Man Box Culture?You do understand this is a bit of a circular definition, right ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/23 10:05 PM |
| 6 | I've had 40 Hinge dates. I firmly believe a woman's initial interest in a man has a window of time to it.Men can't hold women accountable for their actions because they can't escalate conflict with women. Men understand the physical threat they can pose to each other, and thus can hold each other accountable, because they understand the escalation of threat that will happen if they do not stop the behaviour that got them called out in the first place. Escalating the conflict to the physical punishment is not an allowed strategy for men to punish women, which mean that men cannot hold women accounta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/23 08:42 PM |
| 2 | Who should men be listening to? For advice, direction, understanding.I do like the channel of Chris Williamson, one of the few that keep the interests of men in mind in a reasonable and sane way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 01:37 PM |
| 5 | What female body time do men actually like??While there is a variety among aesthetical preferences in men's tastes for the female body, the common pragmatic preference is the body type we can touch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/23 12:49 PM |
| 25 | Men and women not owing stuff to each other.Politeness. We owe each other politeness, not respect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/23 12:14 PM |
| 3 | Misogynists and Misandrists deserve each otherHonestly, if you added a convoluted premise to justify it in the first place, that could make for an interesting rom-com. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/23 09:22 PM |
| 0 | Why don’t more women like sports?Yeah, you are right, women are not less competitive. However, from what I have seen/read, women make a much clearer distinction between "competition" and "cooperation" as well being less able to make a distinction between "competition" and "conflict". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/23 07:13 AM |
| – | Why don’t men care about a woman being ambitious?So, a few things to clarify here. "Ambition" does not mean having a 9-5 job that requires some form of diploma and/or formation. "Ambition" means being ready to dedicate an inordinate amount of time and effort for Statut, Money or even simply the sake of it. Your husband and yourself, by your own account, are not "Ambitious", you are intelligently lazy. You want to optimize the way you work now to limit the amount of work you will have to do latter and live a peaceful and calm life, the very ant… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/23 02:16 PM |
| 1 | I'm going to dismantle the blue pill in 8 sentences, and dismantle the red pill in 9. I will then give what I believe is the only valid approach to mutually fulfilling relationships.When two people are right for one another they will be kind to one another. No. Sometimes, you suck. Sometimes, your partner will suck. Any of you must called out when it happens and there is no nice way to tell someone they suck. A study that I am not able to put my hands on right now showed that both excess and lack of conflicts would lead to a couple splitting off. You should constantly be trying to "win over" your partner. Anything else will lead to complacency. And you should be hard on the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 09:41 AM |
| 2 | It's fine for women to be jealous or insecure in a relationship, but when men are it's a "red flag"Jealousy is acceptable if it does not become an obsession. Thrust can never be blind. Asking where your partner is or has been in the last five minutes and who they have been talking to is clearly unhealthy. Being suspicious of their new hot coworker of their desirable sex that they have spent a questionable amount of time with and can't stop talking about is another problem. You should be suspicious and act on those suspicions, in that case, to prevent a no-return point. If there are issues wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/23 09:38 AM |
| 1 | Effects of Introduction of Male Birth Control (Vasalgel)Standard post, it is autogenerated. Do not pay it any mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 12:11 PM |
| 5 | Modern women are too spoiled to keep a healthy relationships a proof of this is the high divorces rates, they are never happy with the man that they haveIn honest curiosity, what should he have said to make you agree ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/23 02:39 PM |
| 2 | CMV: I don't fault married men for cheating in some circumstancesI do not agree with OP's argument, I am explaining it. You are being disingenuous on two levels. I did not assume anything, see point 1. OP states explicitly the hypothesis, so it is not a unspoken assumption. Saying the hypothesis is not always correct is acknowledged, and therefore, mentioning it only serves to derail the conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/22 09:10 AM |
| 4 | CMV: I don't fault married men for cheating in some circumstancesThe argument is essentially that, considering the risk of losses caused by a divorce for a man, it would be justified for a married man who is not satisfied by his relationship to cheat in order to not deal with said losses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/22 08:57 AM |
| 1 | What does this community think of the outcomes ? Do you agree or disagree ?To be fair, I would not have any prejudice against an High Body Count male until he starts talking to my wife/girlfriend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/22 06:02 PM |
| 3 | Really puzzling study shows that women do not find dominance a desirable characteristic in a man when considering him as a potential dating or romantic partnerNo. "Dominant" John is not described as "dominant", but as a bullying, manipulative tyrant. The "Dominant" and "Non-dominant" texts were both written by people that have no clue about what the word actually means. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/22 05:19 PM |
| 10 | Casual dating is a self-harm and the culture surrounding it is poison. Change my mind. Willing to debate either gender from either side of the isle.Pointless retort. If your goal is to have a long term successful relationship, it is not casual dating anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/22 12:44 PM |
| 6 | Yall really think that women "lose points" simply by turning age 30? I... I just cant lolI will certainly agree that a subset of the people exaggerate and/or misunderstand the concept of the wall and will attempt to clarify. Essentially, for women, starting roughly at 30 (give or take, depending on how nature has blessed you), the subset of men that will be attracted to you will start to decrease, and so at a higher speed than men. It is NOT a sudden "Congrats, you are now ugly" life changing event. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/22 11:02 AM |
| 2 | All of you guys who judge women for having casual sex, are you ever trying to get it?It is, because, from your point of view, the nature of casual sexual intercourse should be the same for men and women. The fact is, it is not because women are the ones that have most of the power to decide when sex happens. For a woman, there are NO benefits to accept casual sex. It proves nothing, achieves nothing, is a great risk on multiple levels. For a man, while it also carries risks to have sex, even if to a lesser extent, it still provides a sense of validation. You got chosen when most… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/22 10:55 AM |
| 5 | All of you guys who judge women for having casual sex, are you ever trying to get it?His argument is that your question does not matter, because the problem is not equivalent for men and women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/22 09:53 AM |
| 1 | Why being an amazing mother is not considered successful?There are a lot of things to say about your questions, I can only give a few starting points. To celebrate Feminity, we would need first and foremost to agree on what it is and to define it. No one can fulfill an undefined expectation and, conversely, you can't judge someone on an undefined criteria. The current situation we are in forbids us to define things as it is considered a tyrannical thing to do. Our current societal paradigm looks down upon qualitative work in favour of quantitative wor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/22 05:11 PM |
| 5 | Moms are hurting their sons by telling them lies about women and datingI do not understand the point you are trying to make. If the father is a statistical anomaly, he must be for a reason, so it would make sense to listen to him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/22 12:58 PM |
| 3 | From an evolutionary psychology perspective, why do men willingly choose to prop up other men?It is less about individual survivability and more about group survivability. We want the best of us to make the best use of their talent to allow the group/society to thrive. Imagine the opposite : a world in which we would actively crush anyone and everyone that would display any ounce of greatness. It is easy to see why. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/22 03:30 PM |
| 2 | What specifically is regularly seen in porn that women can't do/is broadly unpleasant?I can't help but be amused by the conspicuous lack of "spanking" in this list. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/22 08:18 PM |
| 1 | Evolutionary PsychologyN.B.: The following argument will be made with the supposition that contraceptives are a fairly recent invention. If men are strong to provide for offspring then why are they "biologically programmed" to spread their seed far and wide with tons of women? Who has the best strategy to get offsprings ? The guy who fuck any and every women he meets, or the guy that dedicates all of its time to one woman ? Quite obviously the first one. When this behaviour is aggregated on a whole population, it will… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 01:48 PM |
| 2 | True or False: Women are so complicated, they don't even understand themselves. Men are so simple, the only thing they understand is themselves.One of the reason that makes women looks more complex is that, in our current cultural context, we seem to have a severe issue with the idea of determining "what a woman is (by opposition to a little girl)", "what a woman should be" or "what a woman should do", etc. In this context, surprise, surprise, the thing you are not allowed to define become complex, for both women and men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 02:25 PM |
| 1 | Is sex inherently degrading for women?Sex itself is not degrading for women. It is though certainly more dangerous for a woman to save sex than it is for a man. A woman essentially uses a set of conditions to determine if she will have sex with a man or not. Women should be keeping that set of conditions cohesive at all times comes because it constitutes a proof of good faith when they seek out a relationship. If their set of condition changes or is too lax, it does not devalue them as human being, but it devalue their ability to pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 07:44 AM |
| 6 | the real reason men are concerned with if a woman waits to have sex with them or doesn't perform kinks with us but other dudesI don't think what you are saying is completely false, but I think you are missing an important component here. The reason why a woman should not have sex outside of a committed relationship when she wants one is because she needs to obtain a "proof of good faith" from the man she is seeing, she needs to know that he won't disappear when they have kids. For men, sex is the "proof of good faith from women, considering the amount of risk sex can represent for them. If a woman changes what she is r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 07:14 AM |
| 11 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?You are right. "Sex is inconsequential" is the result of the invention of most of our contraceptives and of the sexual revolution that ensued. But it is more of an experiment that something that will last for long. It is essentially a big cognitive dissonance shared on a cultural level that won't go away until reality catches up to us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 07:11 PM |
| 1 | Making a man wait for sex is an AWFUL strategy that ENCOURAGES him to pump and dump you and see sex as an END GOALNo. I grant you the fact that women do not get the way they should use sex, but your suggestion is arguably a worse option. Women can and should use sex to prove their good faith in a relationship, but, for men, their good faith is tested when they actually don't get sex. Is that situation fully in the hand of women ? Yes, but there is no better system. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 07:48 AM |
| 2 | A huge amount of straight men are actually homo-romanticI don't blame you for thinking that, because, from what I can infer, you are a woman. Allow me a few hypothesis: If a woman was to fell in love with a man, she would want that man to be someone worthy of respect and adoration. You see men seemingly "attracted" to men that they would think are worthy of respect and adoration and thus deduce it must be romantic attraction. Here is the thing: the way men and women build their intrasexual hierachies are different, but the way the hierachies of men i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/22 08:40 AM |
| 0 | Q4A How differ your standards for each gender?That is how I understood it, but it is not what you meant, my point is irrelevant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/22 03:10 PM |
| 3 | Q4A How differ your standards for each gender?It is not simply corny, it is actually contradictory. "Taking someone as they come" means essentially that you will treat everyone the same way. "Treating someone as an individual" means that you are actively judging the people in front of you to determine how you should treat them. Unless you had a different definition for one or both statement, what you are saying is contradictory. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/22 07:01 AM |
| 5 | “Pick better men” is a cop out to not hold men accountableBe really careful about what you wish for. Are there really bad people? Yeah, definitely. Should this subset of people be held accountable for their behaviour? Again, yeah, definitely. Should victims be held accountable for all the bad things that this subset of humanity did to them? No. Should they be held accountable for the behaviours that made it easier/possible for those bad things to be done to you ? Yes. Yes, they should. Before you answer, I will reiterate my first point : be really care… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 09:13 AM |
| 4 | Where do we as a species go from here?I think you missed my point (or it was a forced smile sarcasm, but in doubt...). They all became pregnant willingly. They all changed their mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 12:32 PM |
| 7 | Where do we as a species go from here?I will mention that the amount of story of women that held the same opinion as you at 25 and were pregnant at 30 is high enough from my experience to be funny and to give you the advice to be careful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 09:49 AM |
| 2 | In terms of Women's Interests, Can Men (and Monogamy) Be Saved?Exactly, and if you want to see what happens when a society is over-engineered, observe Nazi Germany. That is our most recent example. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/22 05:31 PM |
| 2 | In terms of Women's Interests, Can Men (and Monogamy) Be Saved?It is a problem of understanding. We live in a society where the idea of "structure" is directly linked to the idea of "tyranny", rightfully so, but extremly so. Structures all contain a tyranical element, there is no way around it, but that does not mean they are absolutely and completely tyranical. To maintain a structure, you need to regularly update it so that its tyranical element stay tamed, hence my comparaison with a garden, which, if not tended to, will become chaos itself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/22 02:22 PM |
| 3 | In terms of Women's Interests, Can Men (and Monogamy) Be Saved?I would be interested in knowing in which circumstances structures are not desirable. If you mean that some exceptional people are not made to function within the confines of a structures, well, I'll certainly give you that. Their existence has practical utility to the structure, whatever their quirk might be. If you did not mean that, I'll let you articulate your point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 04:06 PM |
| 4 | In terms of Women's Interests, Can Men (and Monogamy) Be Saved?I don't think the correct question is "how ?". We all know how to make a gift, say thanks or smile to someone else. It is not rocket science, really. I think "when ?" is where trouble is mostly had. The most global way I could put it is acknowledge the fact that things working is not the natural state of being. There is an inordinate amount of possibilities for things to go really wrong, really fast, and they don't, because a lot of people are working to that purpose. The world is a garden, not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 03:51 PM |
| 3 | In terms of Women's Interests, Can Men (and Monogamy) Be Saved?Simply that the types of work and efforts each person is best suited for are different and that thinking that having only one acceptable path for half the population won’t lead to massive misery is just silly. Listen, I will give you that: we all are unique. It does not mean we are special. We are at a time when the very concepts of order and structures are frowned upon. "Tradition" has a negative connotation. The issue here is that humans need structure, but we are actually taught that the stru… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 03:16 PM |
| 7 | How Would The Legalization Of Prostitution In The USA Affect The Dating/Sexual Marketplace For Men & Women?No. It is the same as porn, really. It looks like it could help to solve the problem, but actually, it makes the whole articulation of the problem harder. If all men wanted was sex, masturbation would do the trick, the wide availability of pornographic content would do the trick. But we know by now that they don't. Prostitution would not solve it either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 06:25 PM |
| 1 | Q4M What’s a high n count? How does that affect a woman’s ability to lock you down?So, N-count is a measurement, and I do not think it represents well the thing it strives to observe. Specifically, it needs to be completed by the average length of the relationships in question. Five relationships that lasted on average 2 years will look a lot better than if they lasted 2 months. Concretely though, giving you an exact number is pointless, you still need to enact proper judgement. Fundamuntally, it is bullshit to have such requirements for a casual fling. The tacit aggreement of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 04:25 PM |
| 5 | What are ways to affirm a man’s “masculinity” that aren’t tied to “dominating” or “subjugation”?You see, there are two premices that are always true: A cooperative system (that we call society, culture, etc.) needs to be established to be able to confront and minimize the suffering of existence. A cooperative system always has a tyranical element, because it will set up expectations upon its members and will reward or punish them accordingly. The pragmatic execution of cooperative systems is almost always done by men (under the supervision of women). Since the good participation of a man t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 06:37 PM |
| 21 | This sub is toxic for women (as well as men)Flair does check out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 03:02 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: what do you mean by submission?In the context of this sentence, "one" refers to "player", not "submissive", i.e., women are taught that being nice to men is demeaning. If you want any semblance of a genuine relationship, you will have to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 07:05 PM |
| 12 | Q4M: what do you mean by submission?Oh no, I took the SM example because I think it illustrates well the wrong preconceptions we can have about what "domination" and "submissiveness" entails, but it does not have to be sexual at all. As a non-sexual and more trivial example: a man is holding a door for you. It is a game. A short game, lasting only a few second, and you play by deciding how to react. You can either thank him and/or smile to him, or tell him you could have done that yourself, or anything in between. Depending on you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 04:38 PM |
| 12 | Q4M: what do you mean by submission?"Submission" is a word that cannot be fully understood nowadays, because relationships are mostly conceptualized as being about power dynamics, and only in a tyranical mode. Let's analyze a theorical healthy SM relationship, for example. You got a dominant, and you got a submissive. They have different sessions where the dominant tease, humiliate, inflict pain on the submissive. Now, a question: who is in control, here ? You may be tempted to think the dominant, because they are the one acting, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 12:47 PM |
| 1 | I believe the main problem in dating is the unwillingness from both gender to listen to one another.Concerning your second point, I will allow myself to clarify: A lot of men are simply unable to articulate that need properly. It is easier to think we want sex, because it is a visceral need that we can easily feel, and thus we are more easily aware of it, but if sexual release was all we wanted, masturbation, sex dolls and prostitutes would actually do the trick. They don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/22 10:20 AM |
| 2 | What the fuck is masculinityWhat you are describing though is creativity, not masculinity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/22 10:57 AM |
| 1 | Guys, why are you so easily influenced by sex?Meaning is the wrong word. It is a inevitability. The key element of natural selection will sounds like a truism, but "What reproduces, reproduces, what doesn't, doesn't". Thus, of course, male that wanted to reproduce did what they had to to do so, and did such since the beginning of our species, and most likely since before. So, yeah, men want to have sex. Biologically, it is impossible for men to want children in the same way as women do, because, well, how could we ? The only thing we can wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/22 08:27 PM |
| 1 | lets say every one in the whole society is being absolutely perfect looking..what would be that hypothetical society be being like?? i know its odd to be think but its like thought experimentIf looks become a non-factor, other factors would be used to compete. For men, it would not change much, because we already compete on other aspects. For women, on the other hand, it would make things worse. It is no secret that a lot of women base their self-esteem on their looks and ability to attract a mate, and that it is their main tools to do so. If you remove the ability to compete on that plan, what will be left ? Well, their worst intrasexual competition mechanisms, I.E., rumors and rep… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/22 09:26 AM |
| 1 | Men depend on individual women more, while women depend on collective of men moreI will challenge your point while trying to articulate better what OP meant. Male-dominated jobs generally provide their benefices through systems: (a soldier through the army, a engineer throughhis latest invention, an eletrician through the electric network). Female-dominated jobs generally provide their benefices directly. I am not grateful to every teacher I ever had, I am grateful towards the fews I had. I am not grateful every tailors, just the one that made my smoking. I would only be gra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/22 08:58 AM |
| 1 | Are men and women even truly compatible?The fact that we are able to function the way into each other's hierachies is not self evident, despite what you could be tempted to believe. Men and women's works have historically been split between both sexes and both sexes articulated their own sphere of influence. Feminism happened because the feminine sphere in occidental societies essentially eroded during the three last centuries, and I still have to figure exactly why/how. In most cultures, men and women often will only work directly to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/22 08:41 AM |
| 1 | Men depend on individual women more, while women depend on collective of men moreYou are perfectly right about your assertion, in that the jobs you mentioned are effectively more commonly done by women are that such jobs are quite important. The actual idea OP is trying to express is the following: The main difference between the sexes at this level is that, as a general rule, the benefits to society of most male-dominated jobs are granted through the interface of a system, while the benefits female-dominated jobs are granted individually. Specifically, I am not grateful to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/22 06:24 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: How commonly do you think people (especially men) who are obsessed with dating and relationships are lacking fulfillment in other areas of life?Let's do a little thought experiment, here. The situation : Let's imagine you are in an infinite blank space. You can move in any direction you want (forward, backward, leftward, rightward, upward, downward). You do not have any physiological or emotional need. The question : Where do you go ? Our living experience is not quite as absolute as this experience, obviously, but we are creatures driven by suffering (specifically, the suffering that threatens our continual existence). And, for occiden… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/22 07:16 AM |
| 1 | Is not wanting to get married always a red flag? What if we’re both childfree?Why do you want commitment in the first place ? You don't need it if you don't want children. You are both telling each other: "You are the best thing I can fool right now and we will keep fooling each other as long you do not become an inconvenience". You are trying to change that, but you have no ground to stand up on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/22 04:28 PM |
| 1 | why is every one on red pill and blue pill and purple pill some times talking concerning 'men' & 'women'?? like this is not real things??Okay, your argument is " there are great extremes, so using whole concept such as "men" and "women" to paint wide stroke is impossible. Yes, we are all different, but we are more alike than we are different. At the same time, we are not alike in all the same ways, and these ways we are similar to each other are what creates Categories, such as "Men" and "Women". These commonalities with people in the same categories will have as consequence similitudes in the lived experience of such people. Can… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/22 11:09 AM |
| 1 | PPD Men, why do you desire romantic relationships?The perspective of dying alone is unappealing and the perspective of sharing a life project with someone is appealing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/22 08:12 PM |
| 1 | Q4M, What advice would you give to your daughter or younger female sibling about dealing with inappropriateness from other men?A few things: You would be surprised, but a lot more men that you would believe understand what "no" means. It is important to notice as well that silence means nothing. It is also important that men, as a general rule, like sass and banter and you can only learn those by repeating interactions. Good luck. In relation to what your coworkers, these may be unwanted, but these are essentially compliments. I will surely agree they were not the most elegant ones there were, the burden of the initiati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/22 08:17 AM |
| 2 | How do men rationalize the belief that they are superior to women in every way, while also believing that women are inherently more valuable then menYou got things backwards. Women are the ones that set up that obligation for men, because taking care of kids and providing at the same time is something that became possible only very recently. The women of the past had the wisdom to acknowledge what they needed to do in order to attract and keep their men. A non-insignificant amount of present women don't have that wisdom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/22 07:44 AM |
| 5 | What is the difference between toxic masculinity and high value men?If I may, the issue is not about standards themselves, but the way people not meeting them are treated. I can, as a man, not meet the standards of X or Y woman, and as such, not be considered a potential mate by her, BUT it does not grant the right to X or Y woman to treat me with excessive cruelty, contempt and/or condescension, which arguably a problem met by a significant amount of not traditionaly masculine men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/22 05:44 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: why do you want children knowing that science says that having kids makes women less happy?I won't doubt the findings of your studies, but I wonder what exactly the respondants understood by "Happiness". Our cultural climate has ingrained in it the idea that motherhood somehow makes you worse. Women are not socially rewarded for being mother anymore, an appaling fact when you think about it. Another point to consider is that I would not be so sure it is wise to compare men and women results on the same scale without taking into account the average Neuroticism (OCEAN Modele) difference… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/22 01:00 PM |
| 1 | TRP and FDS both seem to really hate men and women, yet they still want the very people they hateI mean, it is the matter of which people are attracted by both group. They are resentful towards the opposite gender, but the stakes of the game are too important to admit that you are losing. Romantic Relationship is still a game rooted in biological desires, namely reproduction and companionship, refusing to play is admitting your own mediocrity and choosing to live and die in solitude, which are not desirable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/22 03:22 PM |
| 0 | Why do we as a society continue to engage in hook up culture and the degeneracy that comes with it, when it leaves most people so empty inside?Because, since the late 18th century, we shifted the way we were thinking, becoming more pragmatic. The little issue that this paradigm brought is that it can't take into account things such as meaning, which means that we end up preferring pursuing quick gratifications and rather than meaningfulness. What you are pointing out is how dating is affected by this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/22 08:49 AM |
| 3 | US dating market if prostitution was totally legalNo. You see, sexual desire is the easy part to articulate of what men actually want: recognition. The fact that a woman is meant to signify that she acknowledge as something worth carrying into the future (through reproduction). Having to pay for sex is the acceptation that you will never that recognition. It is giving up and most men won't do, be they right or wrong about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/22 11:37 AM |
| 1 | Do womens level of intelligence mean nothing?Were not that strong of a species. Where by far the weakest of our ape cousins. True, but absolute strength was not the point, it was relative strength to other members of our species. Attractiveness is so weird though, like doesnt life long mammary glands disprove the whole "Female selection" nonesense the red pill goes on about. I would like more explanation on what you exactly means by "long mammary glands", because I don't get it. The only real explanation of why scientist believe womens bre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/21 03:04 PM |
| 6 | Do womens level of intelligence mean nothing?I see alot of weird stuff regarding the way many people on the red pill view the way women act. Alot of this is justified using hisotry and biology. The whole "Men strong, Women weak". "Women want strong men to make strong babies". The issue is that "Strength" and "Physical Power" are often conflated, especially because for a very long time, the latter was a necessary part of the former. Women want strong men, but with "strong" meaning "able to confront the world", ergo protect and provide, so t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/21 12:31 PM |
| 1 | Society doesn't need more women as CEOs, politicians, and in positions of power over othersIf you want to actively improve the world, being able to articulate your ideas and arguments is necessary. "We are as of right now lacking enough data to support such a statement" is already a better argument than your last one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 02:20 PM |
| 1 | Society doesn't need more women as CEOs, politicians, and in positions of power over othersFirst message that you posted on this specific discussion: "Wait, are you just ignoring history at this point? Many wars that led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands people occurred because of power hungry males in a position of absolute power. So can you explain to me why men are somehow less inclined to make selfish decisions when in a position of power?" The point of OP is "Most women should not be leaders since they are on average worse leaders than men". A controversial position, to say … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 02:09 PM |
| 0 | Society doesn't need more women as CEOs, politicians, and in positions of power over othersOh please, I am not attacking neither you, nor your thesis. I am pointing out that your sole argument is weak, at best. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 01:12 PM |
| 1 | Society doesn't need more women as CEOs, politicians, and in positions of power over othersAnd I am not talking about just world war either. I am pointing out the fact that the premises : * Most leaders throughout history were men. * Some leaders throughout history made terrible decisions Do no lead to the conclusion that men are better or worse at leading that women. I am at the same time arguing the fact that, despite the mishaps of history and considerings their means, the leaders of the past did a relatively good job at keeping their people functional. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 11:57 AM |
| 1 | Society doesn't need more women as CEOs, politicians, and in positions of power over othersAt a time were only/most leaders were men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 06:43 AM |
| 1 | Society doesn't need more women as CEOs, politicians, and in positions of power over othersI mean, at the times you are talking about, most if not all leaders were men, so it was bound to happen that thrash would end up at the top, but they were overall a minority in history. While we remember most of them, we actually did not have that many wars in history. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 06:43 AM |
| 1 | The "biology" of the age gapI believe that men and women have different incentives when picking a partner, that, when all is taken into account, they actually will be drawn towards people from the same socio-economic background, but the uglier incentive, like hypergamy and physical attractiveness are overblown on this sub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/21 09:49 AM |
| 1 | Do you guys think a sexually conservative/prudish society will reduce or only intesify sexual competition even more? Why or why not?It is a complicate relationship. On one hand, yes, men want sex, at this point, it is established. On the other hand, men also want to have a genuine relationship with a woman. If that was not the case, the high amount of available instant sexual gratifications (like porn, prostitutes, etc.) would have destroyed relationships, period. The reason for "Why a woman?" is that, you are the harshest judge of men (bare your sons). When you accept a man, it means something to him. It is the same princip… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/21 06:22 PM |
| 1 | What characters are you attracted to and why?2B from Nier:Automata, probably the only character that wins it both visually and personnality wise for me. Her cold and profesionnal that hides her caring side makes really appealing to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/21 11:02 AM |
| 3 | Man's desire for an emotional connection with a woman surpasses his desire for sex - and the harsh reality is that men will never be able to satisfy this desireI would like to point out there may be a reason they are on this sub in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/21 09:08 AM |
| 28 | Do you guys think a sexually conservative/prudish society will reduce or only intesify sexual competition even more? Why or why not?A sexually prudish society is a society that increases the conditions required to have sex. It won't affect the intensity of the competition, but rather, the quality of its participants. One of the problem we have right now is the illusion that sex is something unconsequential and dangerless, and, as such, that it should be easy to come by. For men, it is an issue, because it removes the main incentive for self improvement. A prudish society would canalyse our sexual desires towards self-improve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/21 10:57 AM |
| 6 | the divorce rate is high for women but not for the reasons you all think.You may wish to make a correlation table to make your argument more compelling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/21 06:57 AM |
| 1 | Am I submissive if i like things done to/for me?Maybe, but I am not exactly sure what the word exactly means anymore, to be fair. As long as you are grateful, though, it definitively is not a bad thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/21 07:58 PM |
| 1 | why is sexual liberation movement associated with feminism?Basically, the sexual liberation movement hijacked back when feminism was more pertinent than it is now, in the sixties IIRC. Why the women thought it was a good idea is a mystery, I guess they thought the restrictions socially put on female sexuality were senseless, rightfully so or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/21 07:35 PM |
| 2 | Is much of how men experience the "Women are Wonderful" effect internally sparked, "societal," or both?You are wrong on a quite a few things here. I think it's entirely environmental/social. Starts with kids spending the majority of their young childhoods with their mother...who to a dependent and still developing mind in a body that's 2 ft tall, Mom may as well be a "goddess of judgment". A "Goddess", sure, that can be argued. The image of their mother is something that will be holy for a lot of sons. But "of Judgement" ? No. Mothers, in most common cases, will show unconditional love towards th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/21 05:32 PM |
| 0 | Q4M What is more important for you to be treated fairly compared to your partner's exes or to be treated well?So, both are important, but I will attempt to explain why being treated fairly compared to a woman's exes is important, because this is the essential part of the question, I believe. The fundamental reason is that women are the judges of men, both in a natural and cultural way. Women judges men on every levels and chooses the best among her availables choices to be her partner. Women then adapts their behaviour to get and keep their choice. While not all men would be able or willing to articulat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/21 06:19 PM |
| 1 | Societal Shift in Attitudes Towards Becoming a Stepfather/Dating Single Moms in Younger Generations?The point is not that she would be a victim, the point is that women were seen as having no agency. No agency = No responsabilities = Their circumstances is not their own fault. As you say, being a single mom =/= being a victim. But, being a single AND having agency means there is a likelyhood you messed up somewhere. You were too naive about your partner or perhaps you even were the direct cause of the break-up. If course, it may not be the case, said partner could have died in some accident, b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/21 10:24 AM |
| 0 | Study: No evidence for the link between women’s preference for cues of masculinity and their hormonal status, adding up to the growing body of research failing to find support for dual mating strategy hypothesis.While I do understand that other cultures have developped different internal strategies to manage their sexual behaviour, we are in a culture that used the Abrahamic sexual views. Cultures are nested into nature. In the case of Amazonian cultures, it is easy to see why such behaviour are possible. The hostility of their environnement has two direct consequences : Agriculture is not possible without significant technology, thus land owning is not an issue. No behaviour can be allowed to damage th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/21 02:55 PM |
| 2 | Study: No evidence for the link between women’s preference for cues of masculinity and their hormonal status, adding up to the growing body of research failing to find support for dual mating strategy hypothesis.One of the thing that always strikes me as odd with AF/BB is that women were much more dependant on their reputation for their survival, which made promiscuity a terrible strategy both for herself and her offspring. While promiscuity can help guarantee the existence of an offspring, it would certainly lead to trouble regarding the quality of their life: i.e., men usually not wanting to support children not from them, and other women not liking promiscuity very much either, being the gender more … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/21 01:48 PM |
| 1 | Do you think there's such a thing as a female power fantasy in fiction?There are essentially two types of narrative: aventure and romance. Considering the higher attraction of women towards the later relative to their male counterpart. Considering so, it would seem that the archetypal romance would give us the answer, and thus the archetypal romance heroine be such a power fantasy. The closest thing that comes to mind for an archetypal romance story would the Beauty and the Beast story and thus its heroine would be the closest thing to a female power fantasy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/21 10:13 AM |
| 2 | Using pop-fiction as an anchor point, what relationship dynamic do you favor and why?The old black and white serie are available on Youtube, it did not get old. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/21 06:17 AM |
| 5 | How Come Men Are Not Pushing For Plus Size Models? [Serious Question]Sure, but consider the following : the role of the private sphere is to be a place of respite for the ones confronting the world and a place of caring for the ones not yet able to confront it. Empathy and sensitivity are useful when used towards the latter to gradually expose them so that they can become able to confront when their turn comes. The thing is, to confront the world, you need to be able to see as it is. You need to see the world as it is actually, not as you want to see it. The exce… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/21 01:50 PM |
| 6 | How Come Men Are Not Pushing For Plus Size Models? [Serious Question]You are perfectly right about the need of sensitivity and empathy. Except these traits are mostly useful in the private sphere. In a lot of a situations in the public sphere (as the one explained by OP), they tend to be counterproductive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/21 07:35 AM |
| 1 | Who’s forgiven for their sins and who is condemned for life: A debate about Roosh VIn the specific domain of relationships between sex and the difference of treatment between male and female transgressions, I may have a theory, for all that is worth. The reason why men are more easily forgiven is these kinds of situations is simply because male sex-drive is the main fuel of civilisation. Specifically our desire towards is the main that makes us want to improve and challenge ourselves. It would be like sawing the branch you are sitting on. For women, pressuring them to control … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/21 07:26 AM |
| 3 | How do you see the "friend zone"?I wonder if this kind of behaviour depends on geography. I have heard multiple times both side of this argument. Where are you from, loosely ? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/21 04:17 PM |
| 1 | Independent Men/ Independent WonenThe concept of Independence is one of the greatest lie of our current world, and the fact that no one is questioning it is deplorable. You are not, were not, and probably never will be, independent. Everything you own, everything you eat, everything you can do as a hobby, is possible because of others. The goal of the game is not to become Independent. The goal is to become someone people can depend on. Of course, it implies that you should choose carefully both which people you want to depend o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/21 01:11 PM |
| 1 | People here always talk about "alpha males" and "beta males", but is there also alpha/beta females Or does it only apply to men?It applies to both, since both genders uses hierarchies, but the difference is that male do not care about the place of a woman in her gender hierarchy, while the male hierarchy is designed as a form of partial outsourcing for women to help them see which men would be the best partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/21 09:18 AM |
| 1 | PPD = self inflicted gulag of gender relationsWhy are so many people looking for a way to codify human interactions on here!? Because human beings crave order and structure, since they are things we can use with mininal thoughts process. There is no formula. Yes, but we could definitely try to at least define guidelines. The difference Between women and men is immaterial and irrelevant!* It varies across culture, is rooted in our own inconsistent biology, it’s socially constructed, and it’s flexible: ever-changing. This, here, is wrong.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/21 12:52 PM |
| 2 | Women shamed for being too thin, husband made fun of for being shorter than herIf you see, the human has a little default : we are heavily geared towards negativity. If there are even remotely considered negative things to be mentionned, these things will be mentionned. On the Internet even more so, since people can vent consequences free. While the girl does have a pretty face, the fact we can see her ribcage makes me wonder if she is actually eating healthily, which, considering her job, may not be the case. I clearly would not mind having the muscles or the face of the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/21 10:47 AM |
| 2 | What do men have to gain by putting effort and resources into a woman rather than himself?Sure, but not having one greatly improve the probability you won't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/21 08:14 PM |
| 1 | Do you think societies with flipped leadership roles can function?These studies can help : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2778233/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2951011/ https://www.biologicalpsychiatryjournal.com/article/S0006-3223(12)00499-4/fulltext00499-4/fulltext) https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/11/121105081625.htm Basically, prenatal rate of testorone greatly influence that. If it is prenatal, well, you get the idea. We tend to simply overestimate the impact of culture on ourselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/21 08:08 PM |
| 3 | What do men have to gain by putting effort and resources into a woman rather than himself?You are right, developping strong bonds with other people is a solution as well. I was answering the specific plea of OP. If you are able to form and maintain a community that becomes able to make a positive impact on the world, sure, it has meaning as well. Family is such a kind of community, or, at least, it is what it should be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/21 02:29 PM |
| 1 | What do men have to gain by putting effort and resources into a woman rather than himself?It would depend exactly on how they live their live. If they are helping their communities, however they can, and try to improve the life of others, then yes, they also have meaning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/21 02:24 PM |
| 2 | What do men have to gain by putting effort and resources into a woman rather than himself?With the exception of volunteering and going to church, everything you mentionned is at the same time materialist and self-centered. These won't bring you meaning, they won't impact your life in any way. Regarding the other two, if you go to church or go volunteering as if you went to the bar, there is no meaning in that. Improving oneself and suffering to make the life of people around you better can give you meaning. Family is just the most evident way of doing that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/21 01:52 PM |
| 6 | What do men have to gain by putting effort and resources into a woman rather than himself?Well, there is a little funny thing that, considering most people on this subreddit are between 15 and 35 years, roughly, most people here tend to forget : you will probably live up to 80 years. The direct consequence of living without family is the guarantee of dying alone. You will be able to enjoy a "pleasant" life, but you will end up rensenting the lack of meaning in it. This is not something I would wish to anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/21 01:33 PM |
| 0 | Some men view being attracted to women's bodies as "violent" and equal to male violence against womenSo if someone is bullied and kill themselves, that is their choice and the bully/bullies should face no repercussion ? That is the same process and same underlying idea you are defending. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/21 10:34 AM |
| 0 | Do you find Jordan Peterson's content useful?I understand where your issue is. He has actually been called out on that a few times, and I think it is worth clarification. The correct dichotomy he uses is actually this : Being driven towards nothing (Nihilism) Being driven towards the Good. You must discard what you know and what you think about the common judeo-christian representation of god, because it won't align the conception of Peterson (and the fact he partially built his conception from the stories of the Bible makes that a bit awk… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/21 10:24 AM |
| 5 | Do you think societies with flipped leadership roles can function?Your question is deceitful. The actual question is : would the average individuality traits and perks of women be better than the ones of men if used mainly in a leadership context in their stead ? The answer to that is no. The traits of a good leader are more likely to manifest in males. Based on the OCEAN personnality model, Agreability must be low to be a capable leader, because this trait is what includes the willingness of someone to enter upfront conflict. And in general, well, women suck … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/21 08:43 AM |
| 1 | Do you find Jordan Peterson's content useful?Could you extrapolate what is your issue with its definition ? I am curious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/21 10:14 PM |
| 3 | Some men view being attracted to women's bodies as "violent" and equal to male violence against womenI am not talking about general attraction. I am talking about the ability to enhance through different means their sexual power and use it over men, as in the examples of OP's first paragraph. Your fourth paragraph is irrelevant. Yes, they can, that does not mean they should, but if you dare to call out a woman on that, you will be slut-shaming her. Close to nothing is done to make them accountable for this type of behaviour. Considering your third paragraph, I guess it is not the fault of a man… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/21 11:24 PM |
| 2 | Some men view being attracted to women's bodies as "violent" and equal to male violence against womenI mean, let us think about it for a second : what makes rape disgusting ? It is not the lack of consent of the victim. What makes rape disgusting is the fact that it is a form of power abuse that removes its dignity from a human being. Of course, Robert Long was a fringe case, and he was absolutely not right in his reaction, I agree on that. But the point of the first paragraph still stands. Women can freely use their sexual power over men, and some do abuse it for their own gain. The fact that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/21 10:53 PM |
| 6 | Do you find Jordan Peterson's content useful?I listened to him enough to answer that question. Basically, the point of Peterson is that you cannot be moral if you do not have faith in a principle of good, that principle of good is God. His point is that, if you act while being driven towards the good, you believe in this principle, and thus believe in God. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/21 07:24 PM |
| -1 | Restriction of male sexuality?Without the notion of quality, which we have sacrificed on the altar of tolerance, humans relationships become purely transactionnal. If you want relationships not to be about control, you need to recognize the individual moral value of other people and your desire to be with such people and to simply strive to be someone better. You need to think about what you can give, not what you can take from people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/21 07:07 PM |
| 1 | What is masculinity and what it femininity? And do you think both genders are capable of having both traits or must they lean to one?While nurturing behaviour is generally associated with femininity, in your particular example, it is not. You found a child cute. If you think about, typical children characteristics are what defines cuteness, not the other way around, and we probably evolved that way to make our children actually tolerable, because, while we do tend to love them, let us be honest, they are chores. So being driven towards non-aggressive behaviour in the presence of children is actually quite normal, irrelevant o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/21 12:19 PM |
| 1 | Is there any evidence indicating that the 20% of the 80/20 are the same men for each and every woman queried?One of the thing that would go in that direction is that women uses pre-selection as one of their mean of judging a man as a potential mate. Pre-selection is the act of selecting a mate that has already been chosen by other selectors (here, women). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/21 06:06 PM |
| 7 | Abortion Mega ThreadWe often handle this debate the wrong way. When the question of abortion is asked is generally when both outcomes are considered bad, let us not kid ourselves about it. If you find yourself in a situation where you must make the choice to have an abortion or not, you are in a bad spot. Abortion is not something you would recommend willy-nilly to every pregnant women you would come accross. The correct question we should ask ourselves is how to actually prevent the question of abortion of coming … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/21 08:09 AM |
| 1 | Penis size matters as much as height, but only for tall guysWhich disadvantage, exactly ? A recent study (that I can't for my life found on my phone) that went through this sub showed that 84% of the surveyed women were seeing the possibility of stopping working to raise their children as a financial luxury they would gladly take if given the occasion. At a time in the world where Feminists ideology has never been higher. One third of these women had resentiment toward their husband for not making enough money to sustain that ideal. If the perspective of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/21 11:44 PM |
| 2 | Penis size matters as much as height, but only for tall guysYou do understand that women were the ones that pushed men to organize society in such a way and did so quite willingly. If you do not, consider the two following facts : The ability (not the right, the ability) for women to compete within the same domains as men on the same level is recent. Being a mother is worth a full-time job in terms of time spending. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/21 10:48 PM |
| 2 | Penis size matters as much as height, but only for tall guysYes, but reproduction has been that influencial on our species. Women have chosen men so that now, quite a lot are actually interested in getting involved with their children. Considering the pros and cons of this and its alternative for men, it is actually a miracle that any stays at all. Heck, the whole tendency towards competition of men is at its base a mean of outsourcing part of the process of choosing a mate for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/21 10:22 PM |
| 1 | Penis size matters as much as height, but only for tall guysIt is not necessarly a bad thing, though. I mean, the pickiness of women is essentially what allowed our civilisation to become what it is now. But some are getting the shorthand of the stick, and there is nothing we can do here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/21 10:05 PM |
| 9 | Penis size matters as much as height, but only for tall guysThat is what the choices women make implies, yes. Women are the more picky choosers in term of partner selection, therefore, they have been and still are one of the significant actor of the natural selection among human beings. Let us not sugarcoat it : rejecting the sexual advances of someone is equivalent to denying the meaning of their existence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/21 06:25 PM |
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