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Anti-Satan/r/seduction13/03/19 03:49 PM
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Anti-Satan/r/seduction01/01/20 08:21 AM
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I think the real lesson here is that you should be critical in both your choice of SO and friends. That it's fine having casual friends and SOs, but you should be looking for those gems that will get you through to the end. Like, I have circles of friends with the inner two most circles being like that. Most of the girls I've date have been 'for now' as well. With both there is a constant review of whether they are a match or not. It's not like you need to reject whatever isn't a perfect match, …
/r/seduction06/04/20 01:16 PM
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First of all, there's a big difference between not wanting to date someone that has had multiple sexual partners and calling those people cum dumpsters. That's the same as the difference between not wanting to date short men and calling them midgets and such. ​ And how the fuck do you go from: The solution is exactly what he's proposing. Don't post stuff like this that encourages that way of thinking. To 'oh he must mean that everyone should be forced to date loose women'? ​ It's also willfully …
/r/PussyPassDenied01/04/20 02:03 PM
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The solution is exactly what he's proposing. Don't post stuff like this that encourages that way of thinking. Those societal changes you talk about didn't just happen. There were people that fought for them and a society needed to be pulled along kicking and screaming. Suffrage, you had woman and men protesting it and trying to stop it. Segregation, same thing. Hell, even child labor had to be fought for. This idea that society just changes over time to the better and we should stop complaining …
/r/PussyPassDenied01/04/20 12:34 PM
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That's not their crude stuff though. RSD has had more than a dozen coaches through the eras and all with their own systems and material. I got my start from Owen's stuff, especially as I have a very similar energy to him. I've also studied Luke's stuff and was meaning to check out more before I moved on. There's a ton of good tidbits, tricks, vibe advice (kind of hard to describe that) and more that they give out. But you also have the more irreverent sides of them. Namely Julien Blanc and whoev…
/r/seduction30/03/20 01:16 AM
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They were always like this. Todd and more have aired out a lot of dirty laundry. RSD is a company that takes care of Cook. They've long been burying and downplaying anything negative about the company and trying to silence anyone that spoke badly about them. Then there's the issue with them being actively against progress and success rate. It's about products sold for them, not quality. So coaches are not allowed to teach anything that goes against other coaches methods or previously released ma…
/r/seduction29/03/20 02:57 PM
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Not their ultra crude stuff. It gets to the dark side of the pickup community. Being an asshole is only going to give you short-term success and, while a lot of their stuff and coaches were teaching decent stuff, a lot of it was to simply force an image of alpha-ness and then force the question on women immediately.
/r/seduction29/03/20 02:49 PM
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I'm here because I wanted to be there for the next step. I read The Game when it first made waves but never did anything about it. Years later I searched for that community that Strauss talked about and found this subreddit and learned about the revolution Mark Manson fostered with Models (required read if there are actually people in here that don't already know about it). It's been years since and there's been... Nothing. This is pretty much what Manson talked about and nobody had made any fur…
/r/seduction18/03/20 10:41 AM
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Honestly social skills are not needed in dating. Pretty sure we all know at least one burly guy who doesn't seem to fully get how socializing works and he still gets girls.
/r/seduction16/03/20 04:22 AM
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True that you need to give everything a fair shake, but I'd say it's more about your proficiency and tool belt. You have a finite amount of time so training to your strengths to give the perfect right, which you're a natural at, will be great as long as you can steer all fights into a chance for you to use it. You can also train through your troubles and become proficient at leg kicks. That way, when the situation calls for a leg kick, you can give one. Leg kicks will probably never be your expe…
/r/seduction16/03/20 04:20 AM
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This is just intent, congruity and confidence at work. The three make your method fluid and effortless, without guile or dishonesty, overt whether innocent or seductive, and effective. That is, as long as what you're doing has any effect to begin with. I've done the same as you with touching, phone calls and eye contact and I've met a ton of girls that do it with personal space and one that did it with being extremely sexually honest. The key is to find something like that, that gives you an edg…
/r/seduction16/03/20 04:11 AM
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I absolutely agree, in fact I've made the analogy before in regards to the standstill in the PUA community. Just like with Kung Fu, seduction has become a business and none of the 'masters' challenge or learn from each other anymore as well as hoard their knowledge. The reason being that they do not want their method to be proven to be worse than anyone else's nor for anyone to benefit that is not studying their style. That's pretty bad for the community. But I say that to pre-empt that science …
/r/seduction16/03/20 03:47 AM
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What really gets me to keep going is how every guy I've done it around acts as if I just performed a magic trick. As if approach anxiety wasn't an impediment but an actual impassable wall. Really gives you that pep boost to keep going.
/r/seduction13/03/20 09:24 AM
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It might not be that easy for your friend. I know my friends think it's like drinking water for me, but it's still unnerving and troublesome. ​ Also, general anxiety can explain the guy OP was talking about. When I first started I had a period where I didn't get approach anxiety. Reason was I had general anxiety which masked it. I wasn't terrified of approaching women as I was always anxious at all times and it didn't spike more than it did from talking to any individual that wasn't close to me.
/r/seduction13/03/20 09:23 AM
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I feel like a discussion about 'the friend zone' is necessary here. Girls face two problems when it comes to forming platonic relationships with guys: Many guys will take being friendly or interested in them as the same as being sexually interested in them and will then self-destruct themselves and take the friendship with them. Others will intentionally lie about their motives and enter into a friendship without ever to be a friend. The two are the vast majority of friend-zone situations, espec…
/r/seduction08/03/20 10:09 PM
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Keep at it man. It's good to give yourself a bit of mental exercise from time to time.
/r/seduction08/03/20 09:38 PM
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I like how this strikes somewhere in the middle of the subs maturity so you have people pointing out you're wrong in both directions.
/r/seduction05/03/20 09:42 PM
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It's always possible, but no one is making you. Question is if you want to hang out with a guy that you obviously don't like. Just do the occasional work outings and let that be enough. Also, it sounds like you need to re-frame yourself in your work outings. A really good way I learned when someone is being more charismatic than you is to reframe the situation in your mind from him having the spotlight and being at the top, to you being the king. The king doesn't entertain. He is entertained. So…
/r/seduction02/03/20 05:04 PM
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That's a non-existent problem. There's no one guy that can get any girl, girls that are in a relationship do not act like girls outside of relationships. In addition to that, guys that can get any girl tend not to go after your girl. The guys I know like that are extremely pliant when it comes to getting girls home since it is such a non-issue for them. The type of guy you are talking about is simply an asshole with more capability to be an asshole and you simply don't hang out with a guy like t…
/r/seduction02/03/20 11:17 AM
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That's a piss-poor attitude. This kind of thinking has no weight to it. I know guys that have never had to struggle. Some of them are attractive, others extremely socially capable, some even both. I live in a country where gender roles are much less enforced and you will be catcalled, approached, propositioned and date-raped (if not careful). None of that ever bothered me. I always knew that others had it easier than me and I always knew that women lusted after other guys. Hell, I've seen movies…
/r/seduction02/03/20 08:59 AM
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I think for most people, that's enough to live most of their lives without worrying about where the next meal will come from. That's... literally why he's giving them 10m. It's enought that they can live comfortably their entire life, or they can make something great out of themselves. It is, however, not enough to supply themselves with cocaine and gold jet skis for the rest of their lives.
/r/seduction02/03/20 08:39 AM
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The thing that really gets me is how so many here seem to think there's one way to get a girl. Just because someone does something differently than you doesn't mean they're doing something stupid. That also means that if there's advice you don't like, just don't do it. It probably wouldn't have fit with your personality anyways.
/r/seduction27/02/20 09:34 AM
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No I'm sure you need to make use of the cost-to-weight ratio on bulk shipments of mail-order-brides.
/r/seduction27/02/20 09:32 AM
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People have already answered you on the gum thing, but I wanted to add that you should be dropping in on people and leaving an impression. You should be more like a gardener than a hunter. Talk to a lot of girls and sow the seed of attraction. Don't be afraid to say you're going to talk to your friends a bit and you'll hopefully see them later (goes with abundance). Girls usually aren't going to be hooked early in the night. They're there for an experience and going home with someone is usually …
/r/seduction23/02/20 12:01 PM
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This is the most autistic comment chain I've ever been a part of. The sheer lack of understanding and obstinate insistence in it is mindboggling.
/r/seduction23/02/20 01:58 AM
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The tutorials you'll have to lookup. I think I might have some ancient bookmarks though. http://www.pornhub.com/sex/ https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=2055406524 https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1158770490
/r/seduction18/02/20 03:24 PM
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Awesome man! I'm proud of you!!! You're also reading the right books so don't worry about feeling like you're using lines. Don't feel pressured to stay with her either. You're going to feel that way naturally anyway due to biology so your body will talk on her behallf anyway. No need for you to do the same. This really is the beginning of a journey for you, not the last page in the story of you losing your virginity. I'm going to try to give you some pointer my dude: There are a lot of websites …
/r/seduction18/02/20 05:09 AM
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Yeah stress can have a huge impact. I had some really stressful few days once and decided not to cancel on a girl. She was a bit of a freak so I begin talking down to her and telling her she needs to do way better if she wants me to cum. Literally three pumps and I came. Funniest shit ever. Told her "I'm glad we've done this before so I don't have to tell you this usually doesn't happen to me." She was not happy.
/r/seduction18/02/20 03:59 AM
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If you want to get technical, but usually people are perfectly fine calling it half when there are two possible options. Like, there isn't even an equal ratio for men/women to begin with. Even tossing a coin has shown a slight bias.
/r/seduction16/02/20 09:48 AM
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Well Tinder is like going to a bar, but instead of you noticing all the girls sneaking peeks at those three hot guys in the bar, there are thousands of them. Oh and multiple of them are talking to each of the girls. Tinder makes the courting way more private so the girl doesn't have to worry about as much slut shaming for talking to multiple guys It brings everyone together so you have thousands of competitors instead of tens It makes the approach much easier so everyone does it instead of just …
/r/seduction15/02/20 11:57 PM
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And it isn't accounting for inactive accounts. Tinder is very happy that people usually do not delete their account when they leave. Only uninstalling it.
/r/seduction15/02/20 11:48 PM
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Every person is defined by the time they are born into, a waypoint in history. But time marches on and the next person born is ever so slightly more forward than you are. So it is that we all live in the past, criticizing those behind us for their antecendent beliefs and those after us for losing their way.
/r/seduction15/02/20 11:36 PM
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The great part about humanity is that we've never let biology, or anything else for that matter, hold us back. Hell, you're on a seduction forum. You're already flaunting social standards of what's normal and doing something that's absurd by natural standards.
/r/seduction15/02/20 11:33 PM
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I love how the seduction community has a portion that's ultra-conservative and a portion that's liberal. I like to think it's because the basic premise of the community is (at least to a degree) chauvinistic: Getting women. But to get there, you must understand people and grow as a person and so let go of those limiting beliefs.
/r/seduction15/02/20 11:28 PM
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puppies said: There are trans people there who identify as women You either identify as male or female so I would say that's half and trans are a small portion of the world. It's just you that keeps saying trans men. Like I said before: There are trans people that identify as men. There are trans people that identify as women. So: There are trans people there who identify as women Would represent half.
/r/seduction15/02/20 11:25 PM
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There are trans people that identify as men. There are trans people that identify as women.
/r/seduction15/02/20 08:33 PM
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That would be half of an already very small group. I doubt that could affect the gender split that much.
/r/seduction15/02/20 07:18 PM
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Niggardly Oh wow I just read about that controversy. That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard of. It's a completely unrelated word with a completely different origin and a very different spelling. Are there any other words you want banned because they start similarly to a slur? Maybe 'Nigerian'?
/r/seduction13/02/20 03:10 PM
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You were saying that they were moving away from the old stuff and Valentine wanted to keep teaching it. I was pointing out that the opposite was true as Valentine is making new stuff he's said he was not allowed to do as a part of RSD and RSD is still selling his old stuff. It's also pretty anachronistic to say that Valentine didn't fit into their new model and that's why they moved apart when it was entirely Valentine's idea to leave RSD and Owen did a number of things to try to stop that. You …
/r/seduction13/02/20 02:54 PM
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First of all, that's only the case if your game is built around fooling the girl. There's no method today that revolves around that anymore. Most games have of course moved to the Manson model, but even those that haven't have changed the basic concept to be to be about mutual benefit rather than a zero-sum game. Games aren't bad. everyone has moves. It's a good way to signal interest. It's like the classic yawn move. No girl thinks you actually needed to yawn and just forgot where your hand was…
/r/seduction13/02/20 02:46 PM
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I wouldn't really call it an arms race. The entirety of the PUA controversy is because of members of RSD and has been pretty mainstream. Like, if it's an armsrace, RSD is very much losing.
/r/seduction13/02/20 01:12 PM
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RSD has been accused of doing just about the opposite of that. Valentine left, not because they moved away from his brand of PUA (last I knew they were still selling his stuff, even), but because of a bad profit split and the fact that they were keeping him from straying too far from the company line. As in, he was not allowed to teach anything that would be seen to contradict another RSD's technique. PUAs have youtube and social media. They could start their own proven techniques and theory if …
/r/seduction13/02/20 01:07 PM
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is it a possibility they just werent as good? or does it HAVE to be sexism. Then proceeds with sexism.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/02/20 01:34 AM
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Not to mention that the article names two examples: Marvel movies and Star Wars movies. Like we have Depp, Sandler, Cruise, Smith, Pitt, Day-Lewis, Lawerence and more that get people to see the movie strictly based on their name. And, if you pressed the makers of the article, they'd probably tell you how they're hiring actors that are still pretty well known, just not AAA stars with massive salaries. People like Pratt (who's now an A lister), Daniel Craig, Joaquim Phoenix, Margot Robbie and more…
/r/PussyPassDenied13/02/20 01:32 AM
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Do you think that might be related to him having done no remarkable film series for the last 30 years, besides MCU and Sherlock? And people do still see movies because X is in it. Daniel Day Lewis is a very good example, Cruise is always cranking out films where he plays himself and Adam Sandler just got a huge deal with Netflix because people will watch whatever he's in. The article is terrible.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/02/20 01:24 AM
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That the same thing that was said about the ideas before Models. Peacocking was because seduction is about getting attention and always has been, for example. Even the rote learning could be argued to be the same because they were based on the idea of making the perfect conversation by just knowing what the best answer was in any possibility.
/r/seduction13/02/20 01:13 AM
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Oh definitely. I'm mostly out of it at this point. I'm only really on here as much as I am because I'm always so curious what the next thing will be. Right now there's little reason to be on platforms like this one since they just say the same thing over and over again. It's good for beginners, but there just isn't any content beyond the very basics. A lot of the PUA guys are moving more into self-help stuff so I'm quite sure the next step in the evolution will follow the current trajectory betw…
/r/seduction13/02/20 12:18 AM
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Man I remember the Game. It's just fucking funny at this point, but those games really invented this whole thing out of nothing. Manson really changed the whole game, but you got to respect the OGs. I'm guessing it has to do with how the culture has changed. First of all, everyone hits a certain point where they're fine with what they got and don't see a reason to get better at it, so there's always going to be a lot of turnover in the community. But now those new guys aren't being being brought…
/r/seduction12/02/20 11:14 PM
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Which one? I used a lot of words.
/r/seduction12/02/20 10:45 PM
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Honestly there are a lot of PUAs with a lot of varied problems. Like the RSD guys are completely that. If they found a way better way of doing pickup, they'd cut it up to sell in four separate packages and drastically change it to make sure it doesn't contradict anything they've been selling up until then (so it'll continue to sell). Most fall into more benign roles. Like let's say that some no-name PUA in Poland finds a revolutionary way of looking at things like Manson did (or at least innovat…
/r/seduction12/02/20 07:00 PM
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Manson's book is pretty much the start of the current wave in pickup so yeah. Carnegie's is a classic, but it's kind of old at this point and also pretty tangental. I haven't read Deida's book, but given how good your other two recommendations are, I'm going to check it out. ​ But does anyone else feel like the seduction community is stuck in a rut? I feel like it's devolved into tribalism with PUAs being too obsessed with getting and maintaining clients and so debasing their systems to make the…
/r/seduction12/02/20 06:29 PM
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You are correct in all manner. However, I stand by my original statement in that it is not my content. That's where my point about you being able to contact him comes into play. I was in a MoA group a long time ago and I remember it was pretty easy to DM Sami. So it's easy to get any issues like that solved. I would rather the viewer watch the original content vice some summary that may be lacking details. It's not about getting the information from the text. It's giving a short summary in the t…
/r/seduction27/01/20 10:10 AM
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But you're very obviously a part of the same company? It sounds pretty disingenuous when you're making it sound like you stumbled upon the video, when I'm sure you already have full permission to post it, anyone thinking it belonged to you would still lead to the same company and you could very easily get any info from Sami that you might need before posting this. Like a small blurb on what the video is about, or approval on a blurb you write.
/r/seduction27/01/20 06:25 AM
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You don't have to follow every piece of advice on here. There are a lot of different ways to find success and you can see that in the multiple conflicting ways guys on here have to get girls. That being said, being shy is often used as another way to say: 'I want to get girls, but I don't want to approach or work on my social skills'. You don't have to be the romcom guy, but you have to build up experience and you have to approach women if you want to get the girl you want.
/r/seduction27/01/20 06:19 AM
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You have a very toxic opinion about yourself. I think you need to be an egotistical asshole for a while and try to ignore that for a bit. Just convince yourself that you are awesome in every way and be the dick that everyone thinks is full of themselves. Then, after about a year or two of that, you can stop and let yourself mellow a bit.
/r/seduction25/01/20 09:22 PM
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Well first off you're thinking of being an attractive conversationalist as being funny. That's not right. Hell, I'd say you'd be better off skipping humor altogether and going straight for subtext and undertones. Being funny is mostly about getting your foot in the door and showing social worth. You can leverage that to get a girl, but you will also have a lot of moments where the girl has no interest in taking you home. To get what you want out of the conversation you're going to want to learn …
/r/seduction25/01/20 09:20 PM
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Bookmarking that thread. Looks good.
/r/seduction25/01/20 09:06 PM
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I've been told multiple times not to shave my head because of how weirdly shaped my head is. It's never held me back. It wont you either. I can tell you that no flaw is so big it'll hold you entirely back and that any flaw you obsess over, no matter how small, will hold you back.
/r/seduction25/01/20 09:03 PM
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This is an abundance strategy. Meaning that you either have enough on your plate that you don't care she takes forever to contact you, or you pretend to.
/r/seduction18/01/20 10:50 PM
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Honestly curious what the latest wave in seduction is. I haven't seen anything for years now that isn't rehashed, ineffective or to sell you something. ​ edit ​ Oh and this is from 2016 and when he was a part of RSD. He's mentioned a number of times that he was heavily censored during his stay there which led to him leaving. Basically not letting him teach anything that would run counter to other coaches nor anything that didn't follow the overall dogma.
/r/seduction18/01/20 10:49 PM
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This community is all about maximizing your chances. This might not be for you, but others might welcome the idea of bettering their text game. ​ Nothing wrong with that as well. Everyone has what works for them and doesn't as well as a 'comfort zone': A certain level of success where they decide they don't have to push themselves relentlessly anymore.
/r/seduction18/01/20 10:39 PM
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Louis CK had this to say about his dating life. https://youtu.be/c8k3uM-VwPw That's kind of the greatest feeling for me. When I have pushback and little interest and can turn that around and get the girl. If it's easy, I worry that my technique was shit and she just 'let me' win her over. I've known a couple of 'alpha' types that were just like that. They were handsome, leaders and more, but their game was shit and they were way too prideful to take any kind of leap, so they only got girls that …
/r/seduction17/01/20 11:38 AM
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Awesome man. I hope you get real worth out of that.
/r/seduction03/01/20 04:24 AM
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That sounds like sarcasm, but man do I hope that's true. It sounds awesome.
/r/seduction03/01/20 12:15 AM
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It's an interesting point. I think it is very possible for people to go a long time without accepting who they really are and trying their best to ignore that part of themselves. I've seen it in people trying to be someone they're not, refusing to accept that they've changed and pushing down traits that are completely inherent to them. But the trouble is knowing when you're tackling something that cannot be changed and when you're tackling something you can change. I've tried to change myself in…
/r/seduction02/01/20 10:36 PM
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I agree, but the phrase has become pretty tacky to me since it's overused by people going on trips abroad. Usually having nothing actually to do with finding themselves.
/r/seduction02/01/20 10:27 PM
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I often see this point and every time I feel like it's taking a very complicated point and boiling it down to a two word catchphrase. First off, not every part of yourself is something that's a fixed part of you. You change overtime and that's a good thing. Facilitating that change and steering yourself to something better is a good thing. If you start listening to some new type of music or take up (or even quit) a sport, it doesn't mean that you're being untrue to yourself, you're just changing…
/r/seduction02/01/20 04:47 AM
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Sorry man, but I'm not going so far as to follow links to more information when I disagree with the original comment.
/r/seduction01/01/20 01:59 PM
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influenced by. As in who you are and how you work will affect what advice you give. So when you like daygame, you'll suggest daygame.
/r/seduction01/01/20 01:58 PM
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Thanks man. I'll tough it out.
/r/seduction01/01/20 01:51 PM
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As always, how a girls acts is not under your control. But he was showing toxic qualities in a relationship after having been a stand-up guy before. It's not that he was just too much for them, it's that he drastically changed his personality when he started the relationship. The girls rightfully stopped dating him. If I dated a girl that then turned so drastically after I started dating her, I'd break up with her too. The first paragraph is good advice though. Sometimes you can get lost in the …
/r/seduction31/12/19 06:52 PM
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True, true. I think every advice is going to be colored by the giver. I'm easily able to break off relationships that I don't think have a future and that colored mine.
/r/seduction31/12/19 06:48 PM
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You should understand that attraction is not about demonstrating certain things or acting in certain ways, attraction is about letting the other person put in effort for you
/r/seduction31/12/19 06:45 PM
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You're probably trying for relationships with girls who you're better off just fucking casually because you don't actually have anything in common. This part I agree with. When you get into a serious monogamous relationship with a girl who is really right for you, its easy This is untrue. It can be true, but it's not the rule. Saying it is is going to lead to what's already a problem in seduction: Giving up good girls because they're not perfect or didn't have the long list of good qualities you…
/r/seduction31/12/19 06:44 PM
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Yeah it's the last part that I was talking about. Your original comment made it sound like the guys were making the connection that since she seemed to be willing to sleep with them, she must be willing to sleep with everyone and therefore a slut. I was disagreeing with that. Other than that it sounds like were on the same page.
/r/seduction31/12/19 06:35 PM
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I'm saying that your reasoning was putting a lot of interpretations into why they would get refused. It doesn't have to be so complicated nor specific. Grown ups are naturally suspicious of anything that is too good to be true since we know it usually is. So when the girl goes up the guys, they're most likely driven off by the fact that that girl shouldn't be approaching them like that. That could be because they think she's trying to scam them, she's selling something, she has some major person…
/r/seduction31/12/19 06:14 PM
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It's supply and demand, and human laziness. If men were always in demand and didn't need to work for sex, they also wouldn't have any game at all. There's even female pickup communities that are trying to learn this stuff to get better with men. Go equality!
/r/seduction31/12/19 03:20 PM
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Then you should be happy. The next time a girl starts giving you shot about seduction, you can show her this video and how Buzzfeed advocates it.
/r/seduction31/12/19 03:18 PM
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It doesn't even need to go that far. A guy would say no because he'd be sure there's a catch or that she's really not interested in you and there's something else going on. There was some PUA that talked about it as a part his game where he makes himself the prize to fight for. When you've set yourself up on the pedestal you then need to give her a reason why you're picking her. Otherwise she'll be suspicious of the whole thing.
/r/seduction31/12/19 03:16 PM
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Fucking up approaches? We've all been there.
/r/seduction31/12/19 03:12 PM
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Yeah it has a lot more to it, but let's remember that part 1, 2 and three is to approach women ALOT. This builds your game, gives you more chances in what will always be a chance-based game. I think we tend to eventually forget that usual guys don't approach. They meet someone through work or friends and that's enough for them.
/r/seduction31/12/19 03:11 PM
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You're stuck in a loop where you're anxious women will leave you and that's causing women to leave you. Negative feedback loops like that are a bitch. You need to try to break it. Maybe try dating a 'throwaway' girl. Go in knowing that that the two of you are going to break up in the near future. Think of it as a nice little stop on your life journey. You will eventually keep going, but it's fine to relax a bit and you're not going to worry when you have to leave. Pretty much a 'rebound' for thi…
/r/seduction30/12/19 07:49 PM
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I both second this and disagree with him. We have pretty different ways of getting women, which is fine, there are multiple ways that work. We both agree though that OP is spouting bullshit. Whenever somebody promises something for no effort, it is bullshit. Guy is just saying what everyone wants to hear: What you're doing is great and you don't need to put in extra effort. The problem isn't you, it's them. You don't need to improve, you're just fine as is.
/r/seduction30/12/19 07:44 PM
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First of all, I live in a very non-religious place where there is not a lot of slut shaming either. So do realize my advice comes from playing under separate cultural rules and might therefore not be ideal for you. If you just want to see if you got what I said correctly, I wasn't looking for an LTR and I made that very clear to all girls I got with as soon as the game started. When I say before sex, you need to realize that sex comes earlier in a relationship and it was usually ONSs. Until that…
/r/seduction25/12/19 04:06 PM
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No it was a more personal reason. I'd just gotten out of my first 'big' relationship and found myself a sad unimpressive guy that had gone his whole life getting with girls that wanted me rather than the girls I wanted (sort of). So there I was for the first time getting the girl I wanted and pursued. Even at that point I knew I was a better man than who I'd been just a few months before and I knew I was at the very beginning of something that could be extremely fulfilling. There was also the th…
/r/seduction25/12/19 03:17 PM
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What you need to understand is you just had a perfect approach. Don't question it. It sounds pretty clear she was into you and that you played it perfectly. There is the idea that you shouldn't follow up too soon to not seem overly interested. I can tell you I often don't follow up until 3 days later. Finally you need to realize that this is a very random field. You're communicating with a person and that means there's nothing guaranteed. She might have lost your number, gotten into a relationsh…
/r/seduction25/12/19 02:50 PM
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I feel like I should add: Later in life I met unicorns. Girls that I am truly sorry got away, but those girls I tried to capture. I couldn't. Whoever is reading this, you're going to meet unicorns and curse thst you couldn't get them. After that you'll stop thinking about those girls thst you think you wouldn't hate after 5 years. Hell, they'll also cement in you thst what you regret are when you didn't take a chance or weren't good enough. Not when you said no to settling.
/r/seduction23/12/19 07:06 PM
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When I first made the decision to 'get' women instead of just stumbling into them, I had this happen. This was before I even started seduction. I'd met her at a temp job and cursed my luck when it turned out she had a boyfriend. Well some time later I met her downtown and got her home. Afterwards we kept seeing each other and eventually she asked if we shouldn't make things official. It rocked me quite hard. The months after I'd regret my decision some nights but the fundamental truth was this: …
/r/seduction23/12/19 07:01 PM
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Been at the other end of that path. It's great but highly contextual. The more contact I had with the person, the more control over the narrative I had and the more my honesty was valued. So girls I slept with were usually (I'll get to that later) understanding but low contact were less understanding. So girls in my social circle were the most understanding and same night lays were the biggest problem. The answer to that was to be honest from the very start. I, as a rule, do not ONS with a girl …
/r/seduction23/12/19 12:49 PM
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Compartmentalizing is relegating things to different compartments. It describes how you put done stuff away so that it does not affect your behavior in other situations. The classic example is grief, which you usually compartmentalize to keep on functioning. In this case it goes for whst is considered acceptable behavior.
/r/seduction23/12/19 12:29 PM
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Like most of this stuff, chasing is a very complex thing. I could easily write 800 words dissecting how to do what his friends did and the difference between that and the desperate chasing he was mentioning. I really hate how this subreddit has devolved into easily digestible slogans that need a million exceptions because courting is complex and nuanced. Check out old top posts and the sidebar. Long form breakdowns were awesome back in the day.
/r/seduction20/12/19 11:27 AM
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And attraction is a journey rather than a dice throw. The first answer might be no, but that might change later that night, next month or even years later. The part you just need to remember is that you're treating her like every other girl and that there are multiple girls. Then it's like meeting keanu reeves. You really want to and you're going to capitalize on any chance you have to reach him, but you're not obsessing over it every day and you're not going out of your way to make it happen.
/r/seduction13/09/19 02:58 PM
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Yeah it's an advanced point in my opinion. I could not have done it when I was starting out because I simply didn't have the female attention to maintain the right chemistry between me and a girl friend nor attractiveness to get her. So feel free to ignore any female companionship when starting out, but you should be making as many girl friends as you possibly can when you get better. You maintain the correct chemistry between you and them (flirty, available, non-judgemental, fun and dealing wit…
/r/seduction13/09/19 02:52 PM
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Realise that every person you meet is unique, but all of them are interchangeable. So stop caring so much what happens with this girl and realise that this is just the start of her appearance in your life and it will end when it ends. Then there will be another and another. Your mantra is good, but it should really be the other way around. She's not yours, this is just her turn. And then there will be another.
/r/seduction09/09/19 07:54 AM
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Honestly logic doesn't really apply, but this isn't a case of that. This is a case of missing information. Most likely there was some added context on her end that made her cut you loose. Don't think about it. It could be as little as her having a headache today.
/r/seduction06/09/19 04:36 PM
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Yeah it's also just about assuming new habits. Even if you suddenly became confident, you'd still be acting like you weren't.
/r/seduction28/08/19 06:19 AM
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Awesome. I feel like some guys on here think that friends=friendzone and so relegate themselves to only having platonic (usually exclusively guy) friends and never reach that prime position.
/r/seduction23/08/19 06:49 PM
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I give value. If someone values me, I of course appreciate it, but I definitely don't care if they don't, since my value comes from within me. The key to everything right here.
/r/seduction23/08/19 06:07 PM
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The key fact here is that you shouldn't give a fuck about the girl as a romantic interest at any point. You should want and pursue her, like the final chicken wing in the batch but, like that final chicken wing, you shouldn't care that much when you don't get it. If a girl says no to something more, then you just consider whether she's worth having as a friend or not, or just move along. You need to realize that no one is unique (including you), but there are a ton of special people. So there's …
/r/seduction23/08/19 06:05 PM
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Yeah I don't know a single person in my social group when I was the most active, who didn't know me as an absolute dog. It helped a lot. Since I was 'a dog' it was easy for me to maintain my position and not fall into the role of a friend with any of the girls around me. Of course I was sexual to keep myself from gaining the 'platonic friend' tag, but the 'dog' rating meant I wasn't acting out of character in doing so and my door was always open if any of them wanted to fool around. I think it a…
/r/seduction23/08/19 02:35 PM
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I'm guessing you can tell by how into it she is when she arrives. I think mirroring her would be a good idea.
/r/seduction22/08/19 08:00 PM
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I've only seen it being used in weird furry rp ... Right.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/08/19 11:06 AM
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Death can apparently also be a good motivator for sex so it can probably work out as well.
/r/seduction13/08/19 06:02 PM
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I feel like I've just experienced the mental equivalent to stepping in dogshit from that little view into your vision of the world. I've only slept with 2 or 3 virgins in my life, so I've gotten a lot of leftovers. Not to mention how awful sex with virgins is. You should do some mental review and start thinking of women as people and not as property.
/r/seduction09/08/19 05:58 PM
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There's this one for example https://fetlife.com/
/r/seduction09/08/19 05:31 AM
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Not really. You're way better off finding out now that doing it with another dude is too much for you than when you're standing in ten people's worth of fornication. And pushing the limits is what life is all about. If you specifically want to stretch yourself sexually, check if there isn't a popular fetish dating website where you are. I live in the fuck-end of nowhere and my friend was on one that saw a surprising amount of traction. He had some pretty weird stories from there.
/r/seduction09/08/19 05:11 AM
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You have to first examine whether you are being nice, or whether you are being unassertive, cowardly or making excuses. When I was young I was often described as quiet, gentlemanly and kind. As I grew older I had to face the reality that I wasn't gentlemanly. I just didn't have the guts to go after the girl. I wasn't kind. I just didn't have the character to say no. I wasn't quiet, I just didn't have the courage to speak. I truly consider myself kind today, but I think that is something you need…
/r/seduction09/08/19 04:53 AM
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Same here. Have the flow state and it is different. Still funny seeing similarities.
/r/seduction09/08/19 04:40 AM
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It's because being offensive is an easy route towards being secure. If you're already bulling your way through, it's easy to bull your way through opposition. When you're being considerate, you have to switch gears to be assertive and so low level guys can't often make it. But when you get the handle of it, the latter is much more powerful. As an old lady said about two presidential candidates that epitomized the two sides: 'The first made me think he was the smartest person in the room. The sec…
/r/seduction09/08/19 04:39 AM
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'twas but a scratch! But in all honesty... fuck. The frenulum tore while we were dry humping. Sex was out of the question at that point (though the damn girl kept riling me up) as blood was pouring out (as one could imagine). Was scared shitless to go to the hospital about it, so I just toughed it out a couple of days and kept it and my thoughts as clean as I could and it thankfully mended itself. Of course that's not the story I tell, hehe.
/r/seduction09/08/19 04:28 AM
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All the best stories in life start with stupid shit like this. Even if everything goes to shit, you'll have a fantastic story to entertain people with. But be safe. Make sure you know where she lives and her info so there's accountability there. Meet them in a public place first so you can scope them out a bit. You've been in the game a bit so you should have picked up a bit of a social sense. Don't have the actual happening in your own home. Some guy suggested a hotel, but if they live close, t…
/r/seduction09/08/19 04:16 AM
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Yeah don't listen to them. Now you barely talk to her, but make sure she knows you're the most awesome guy in the country and have a really awesome life (SC is fucking awesome for this. IG is too). Treat her like an acquaintance and hook her with humble stories of your awesome life. Ask casually when she's showing interest when she might be coming back, but don't frame it as wanting to know when the two of you can meet. You want to make her overcome with FOMO so you become the first item on her …
/r/seduction09/08/19 03:43 AM
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Oh wow I thought I was in the Tinder subreddit. Don't worry man. I once decided to be patient and not come off as needy at the end of the night with a girl. Then invited her to do something next weekend and she took a raincheck until the weekend thereafter since she had a friend coming from out of town. Then she started dating that friend that weekend... But I got her like a year later so... I guess I went... heavy into the patient game...
/r/seduction09/08/19 03:37 AM
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Exactly this. Put her on an acquaintance level, show when you're doing cool shit and increase your standing with her. Don't ask (or only ask once at a later date) when she's coming back. You want to give the feel that you have an amazing life and this didn't affect you much, but you'd love to meet her someday. It's not the easiest thing to pull off, but it's very doable and you literally don't have to spend any effort on her, since this method is meant to look effortless.
/r/seduction09/08/19 03:34 AM
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I love how accurate and simple that list is and yet I've spent years working on them and still feel like a novice.
/r/seduction06/08/19 11:43 PM
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The name 'negging' really needs to be retired. The underlying concept of teasing girls is sound, but that name has way too much baggage tied to it at this point.
/r/seduction06/08/19 11:41 PM
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I disagree with pretty much everything in this post. The one thing I believe is correct and everyone should take away from this post, is that you shouldn't be dependent on positive and negative reactions from others. Even if you do everything else correctly, that one point will keep you from any kind of meaningful success. You'll be like a world-ranked boxer with a glass chin. Extremely qualified in every way, but fall apart as soon as you need to apply any of that. So on to the disagreement. ​ …
/r/seduction27/07/19 02:02 PM
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If you wrote the post in word or something before posting it, you could just post it as a comment here in the thread. The mods haven't locked it so we could keep the discussion going and people that want to keep it could do so.
/r/seduction24/07/19 12:40 PM
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Dude post it in the comments. I accidentally refreshed and I want to see if there's anything I want to pick up on there. I didn't agree with it, but learn what to do from the people in front of you and what not to do from the people behind you.
/r/seduction23/07/19 11:24 PM
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That's a power move though. She's in her fifties or sixties and she's srill seen as a sex symbol by a lot of people and she's been a dominant figure in the music industry for who knows how long. Getting those implants is like buying a corner office for her. It's to maintain her reputation and keep the cash and power flowing.
/r/seduction23/07/19 11:20 PM
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That would literally work. You need to get out of the house and you need to talk to people. Find something that works for you. I've pointed you to stuff about seduction and given you advice about it. But you need social interaction and it's up to you how you get it.
/r/seduction19/07/19 12:53 AM
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You answered my direction to a short summary of what you should do with direct questions demanding direct answers. I gave you that and that overwhelmed you. You need to learn what you need, what you want and what you should be doing. You need to go out and interact with people. Meet people that make you smile and you make smile. It is understandable that you think this is all overwhelming, but that's a given with how little social interaction you're currently getting. I was the same. I had very …
/r/seduction19/07/19 12:34 AM
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Like I said before, game is incredibly situational so it's going to depend on all kinds of contexts. For what to say there's a good start point here. Most of the talking you do is to convince her you're a cool guy (not by saying that, but with what you say), increase sexual tension and get what you want from her. For increasing the sexual tension, steering her towards sexual topics, innuendo and getting her to think about sex in some way are good. for touching you have DiCarlo's method, but I my…
/r/seduction19/07/19 12:01 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1db1fl/billys_guide_to_learning_pickup/ This is a good start. From there just read the links he gives and more stuff in the sidebar. Check out the sister subreddits of seduction. Check out the top of all time on all the subreddits, including this one. Currently I'm looking at 'the system' by Todd v. It seems like it would work well from you, but I can't guarantee it. As I said before, this is something that you can just learn on your own or through var…
/r/seduction18/07/19 06:39 PM
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Oh yeah sorry I broke the rule of remembering who OP is. I wouldn't really recommend he get her number anyway either. With the obsessive level he clearly hit, nothing good is going to come of it. And as for the emotional investment, you just don't invest that much in her. You take the gardener approach and simply maintaint he level you were at on the first approach and keep gaming. It works well in that hot girls are usually friends with more hot girls. That way you've just gained a group of tar…
/r/seduction18/07/19 05:28 PM
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I’m so sexually frustrated that I just want someone to practice with to get better at sex Well there's always someone on a lower rung than you. There is literally no person in the world that does not have an option they simply aren't willing to explore. If you're so frustrated, find a hooker, find an extremely ugly girl, find a drug addict or some combination of those. For most it's not 'I just want someone to sleep with' it's 'I just want someone that I like to sleep with'. There's nothing wron…
/r/seduction18/07/19 05:22 PM
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And a person could tell you the exact same thing about seeing a medical doctor and you'd call them an idiot. Seeing a professional is about finding the right question, the right answer and the right way to accomplish it. You've already said that this is a problem you can't deal with on your own and have years of attempts to prove it, isn't it time to see a professional and stop with the double-think of not being able to handle it yourself and not being willing to spend money on something you can…
/r/seduction18/07/19 05:12 PM
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It does. Try taking yourself out of the hypothetical equation. Think about how often you've heard girls complain about guys going up to them and asking them out (not a lot). Think about whether it ever works for guys to ask girls they don't know out (it does). Think about how often you've seen 'mismatched' guys and girls together and realize that you're judgment of who'd be a fit isn't perfect. Then it's just realizing that a rejection wont even be a memory for you. You'll most likely forget abo…
/r/seduction18/07/19 04:48 PM
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If you have trouble approaching, you can try warming up first. Just start off by talking to random guys and girl on the street with some inane bullshit. Keep escalating what you're talking to them about and you reach a point where approaching becomes as easy as talking to a friend. Questions and compliments are a good starting off point. Stories work well after and question openers. Then you can start doing some light flirting and conversation and at that point you should be able to talk to anyo…
/r/seduction18/07/19 04:43 PM
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Go see a therapist man. I did a while back and found out I have some pretty massive anxiety issues. It really helped me out. There's nothing wrong with getting help, hell you're doing it right now, so you should be getting professional advice.
/r/seduction18/07/19 04:40 PM
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You should be so fucking amped by that though. You went up to a random girl sitting on a bench and she had your ideal face. Imagine the treasures you haven't found yet? There's no fucking way you just stumbled on your one-in-a-billion. There's probably thousands as good as her in a 100 mile radius of you right now. I've had three unicorns like that already (though personality and smarts, rather than looks) and my take away is always: 'Holy fucking shit, how can I get into a relationship when I n…
/r/seduction18/07/19 04:36 PM
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Yeah I'm going to respectfully disagree. Befriend her, sure. Relationships don't last and then you're the awesome guy she knows there's mutual affection with and she's hung out with. Getting the number in case it doesn't work out is off. You're getting her number so that she can tell you when it doesn't work out? You're going to have to do legwork to get into consideration at all and you've framed yourself as someone who's not against fucking with relationships (something I and a lot of other pe…
/r/seduction18/07/19 04:32 PM
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Dude is an idiot and realizes his opinion will wither in the light of public opinion.
/r/seduction16/07/19 02:55 PM
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Dude is an idiot. Warren is one of the most charitable people in the history of the world. He's pledged to donate 99% of his wealth and has already donated a ton of it. He's also extremely critical of the US's tax policy and has been campaigning for increases on the rich. Especially people in his exact business.
/r/seduction16/07/19 02:54 PM
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Absolutely nothing.
/r/seduction16/07/19 04:46 AM
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I've had a girl that needed for it to 'just happen'. I've had a girl who just chickened out. I've had a girl who just happened to be on her period and didn't want to admit it. I've had a girl that got a boyfriend a few days before and thought that would sound bad. I've had a girl that was pining after another guy in another country and was saving herself. I've had a girl find out I messaged her friend on Tinder. I've had a girl that needed to get her passed out friend home. And those are just th…
/r/seduction16/07/19 01:44 AM
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Are you the 'life of the party' type? Do the people in the group look up to you or defer to you?
/r/seduction16/07/19 01:34 AM
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It sounds dumb, but it is actually true. Some animals don't actually chase you unless you run away or turn your back on them. Cheetahs are one of these animals.
/r/seduction16/07/19 01:31 AM
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It could be so much else as well, though. It's pretty hard to read into such a small description that's heavily biased by how OP sees it. My guess is that OP is the 'head' of his friend's group, or at least has major power within it. So girls like the above see him as the creme de la creme of the friend group and naturally go after him. When solo, OP doesn't have the same allure as he's no longer on the pedestal and probably has a personality that works much better in a crowd and not directed on…
/r/seduction16/07/19 01:25 AM
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Honestly it could be any which way. This is probably a third of the info we'd need about what this guy is doing and we're getting it from a guy that literally doesn't know how his friend does it. I've got a friend whose life sounds like a succession of porn movie scripts. He's pretty clueless about how those situations happen and, if I gave you his answer or mine, I'd either a 40% chance of being right.
/r/seduction16/07/19 01:21 AM
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I'm kind of worried about the state of the sub that so many upvote this post. The lack of understanding exhibited in it makes me think the author hasn't used Tinder, or cold approaches.
/r/seduction13/07/19 03:48 AM
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Any good material or pointers you can give me? My text game is horrendous.
/r/seduction10/07/19 02:44 PM
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I do OK, but my text game is a dumpster fire. I've literally had a girl apologize to me about unmatching me on Tinder and then getting a one night lay. I very much believe that I'm a bad texter.
/r/seduction10/07/19 02:42 PM
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It's because of three things: ​ Being female means they are less intimidating physically. So closeness and touching cannot unintentionally be taken as a threat. Women are the ones sought after so their touches are usually welcomed. On top of that, it is rare for women to be forward so such a woman is usually encouraged. Women that do this don't do it because of some technique they heard about. They do it because they naturally have small personal spaces or are naturally touchy and have simply no…
/r/seduction08/07/19 12:18 AM
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Why are you even on here?
/r/seduction08/07/19 12:12 AM
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Some people are just touchy. Some people have smaller personal spaces than usual. It doesn't always mean something special. ​ Guys that think that is a reason not to hit on the girl are idiots though. It's not whether she's hitting on you or not that should decide who you hit on, it's whether you're interested in that person or not.
/r/seduction07/07/19 11:58 PM
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Haven't seen that article, thanks!
/r/seduction02/07/19 09:09 PM
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It's also a social pressure thing. Women are meant to behave in specific ways and conform to certain ideals. This has a pretty big impact on first encounters. Women will often be reserved either because they think that's how they are supposed to act, or because they're afraid some part of their desired behavior will mark them as undesireable to you.
/r/seduction02/07/19 09:08 PM
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Honestly you can do that. You just need to do it well for it to work and you need to not be weird about it. It's also a matter of effort, like everything else. People don't want to approach, people don't want to put themselves out there, people don't want to make a move and people don't want to push the conversation onwards. Often when someone feels they're stull in small talk mode, it's because they're not willing to leap into deep conversation for fear of failure and are waiting for the perfec…
/r/seduction02/07/19 09:05 PM
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Some guys don't have the foundations to make that kind of progress without help You can do anything by yourself, given time and repeated opportunities. The only reason Adrian Smith didn't construct the Burj Khalifa by himself is that it'd take fucking forever and be stupidly hard.
/r/seduction30/06/19 07:13 AM
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I think guys here are showing their bias and giving you very roundabout answers. ​ What you want right now is to define your relationship. The most common parts of that is being exclusive and being official. Being exclusive means being completely faithful to each other and being official means that you let other people know the two of you are together and that you tell people the two fo you are together when someone asks. Those aren't the only things. Honestly the two of you can include and defi…
/r/seduction15/04/19 08:19 AM
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If we can call what you're dealing with the severe form of something, then I have a mild form of it. I can give you what I've come up with in regards to that. If nothing appeals to you, everything is available to you. When you have a burning passion, you're always thinking 'why should I be doing this, when I could be doing what I really love?'. Since you lack that, you can hop between interests and try a ton of things. You can choose your interests based on traits other than your passion for it,…
/r/seduction13/04/19 12:07 PM
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Then go with what I listed above. Just ramp things up again as you did before (you can choose whether you pick up where you left off or go one date back) and when the time comes again to move things into the bedroom, take your time with it. Extend the foreplay out. Make her take the final step or so aroused that she's not going to accept anything else. If she again pumps the breaks, then you pump the breaks emotionally. You air out how you feel like she's keeping her distance from you and using …
/r/seduction30/03/19 01:31 AM
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Maybe you were going a bit too fast and she felt pressured. I'd advise having another perfect evening and taking it slow. If she again stops everything say you feel like she's distancing herself from you and tell her you felt like the two of you were at that stage in the relationship. It sounds like she wants you in that way, but there's some hang up with her, maybe born from the failure from last time. It's an infamous thing that once things go wrong with, they seldom go right later.
/r/seduction29/03/19 03:37 PM
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That's the thing. You have 'it' and therefore have had a fundamentally different experience with this. It's awesome that the abundance that you have hasn't made you complacent and defer learning more, but many can't even hold a conversation with a woman. It's hard stepping into the shoes of someone that has such a different experience of the world than you. Hell, I had what I like to call 'the serial-killer stare' before I started learning because I didn't factor in how my eye line was apparent …
/r/seduction26/03/19 10:55 AM
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For what you're going for: Also modulate your speech. Talk slower, deeper, end on low notes instead of high notes, consider what you're going to say before you say it, only talk when you have something to say, learn to be comfortable in silence and to use it where fitting and structure your stories.
/r/seduction25/03/19 09:01 AM
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Most of the guys on here are on here because they don't have an intuitive sense for this. I'm like that too. It also means that we are way more in tune with our social interactions and can identify and change much more than a guy who's learned most of it subconsciously. Source: Alpha friends have little concept of what they do and why it works.
/r/seduction25/03/19 08:54 AM
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I don't understand why this is an issue. Some guys just have that sort of attitude in life and others like that manner of writing online. I've talked to guys on here in the more 'macho' way at times myself. It's just another way to try to get your point across. It works for some individuals (I've done some incredible things with a 'fuck you' attitude) and is great when the 'normal' way isn't working. I'll often turn to the macho way as a last ditch effort to get my point across or because I'm ei…
/r/seduction24/03/19 07:29 PM
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It's a reputation scam. If you're the kind to maintain a fake image in your life then that kind of thing can hit you hard. This kind of thing just isn't something that anyone on here would be concerned about. Reminds me of when they tried to blackmail Jagr. Or when they were getting rid of Sukarno.
/r/seduction22/03/19 10:08 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EehDTbubet4
/r/seduction21/03/19 08:08 PM
2

Check out Chaos Theory with Ryan Reynolds. It's great and has the same castaway feeling.
/r/seduction21/03/19 07:52 PM
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Sorry my bad, I wasn't clear enough. Tell her when it's become a foregone conclusion that the two of you are going to have sex. Oh and I'm just going by the comment chain question of when to mention you only want sex. As for your problem, it's unclear. There's way too little information. Maybe you're rushing to the moment too fast. Buildup is key, especially for women. They're there for the entire experience, not just the sex. Maybe you're making it too adversarial. You need to see the two of yo…
/r/seduction14/03/19 07:29 PM
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It seems like lots of people here are trying to find their wives or only sleep with lots of girls to find the right one. This is part of it but frankly I want casual sex with cute girls as an end in itself... It's not so much that guys on here are seeking that, they just know that you can't be a rolling stone forever and you're hardwired to fall in love with some girls and want to settle down. So they want to ease their landing to avoid a faceplant because they weren't prepared for it.
/r/seduction14/03/19 06:46 PM
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Tell her when it's become a done deal. It depends on when that is, but it's usually easy to tell. Women get as frustrated as we do when nothing happens at that point and I've never had something fizzle out because of it. Guys have a lot of different ideas as to the obligation they have to the girl regarding their intentions, but this way you're just about bulletproof.
/r/seduction14/03/19 06:44 PM
1

I completely agree about Tinder. It gives poor results and doesn't let you leverage most of the stuff you're supposed to know. I don't use it and haven't for a while. I disagree about Tinder stuff belonging on here. Seduction is taking place there and there are a ton of people that are actively using Tinder as their means to success. Not just that, there are some that seem to have genuine skill at it. That means we're dealing with a venue for seduction that requires skill. That alone should be e…
/r/seduction14/03/19 12:06 PM
6

Words only have the meaning you give them.
/r/seduction14/03/19 11:38 AM
2

'Bad to the Bone' and 'Sharp dressed man' are awesome. 'Thunder' by Imagine Dragons used to be my go-to, but I haven't been in the right headspace for it lately.
/r/seduction14/03/19 11:37 AM
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I get that. I mainly use it to up my text game and keep my wit active. Got some good insights that I use for text game in general. Helps a lot nowadays with the current obsession with texting.
/r/seduction14/03/19 12:24 AM
0

It helps to improve your game. If you're not improving it while on Tinder, there's really no reason to be there. Shit is probably the worst way to game ever invented.
/r/seduction14/03/19 12:00 AM
0

Varying openers allows you to keep your game up, practice for other moments, experiment with new openers and keep from becoming stale.
/r/seduction13/03/19 11:42 PM
1

Thank you!
/r/seduction13/03/19 09:18 PM
2

Wingmen/women are awesome. They're best used in a support role than a vanguard like you're thinking of them. A good wingman serves as a faux character witness and to swing the crowd into supporting you two hooking up rather than blocking it. Not to mention running interference. Don't knock it until you've had a good wingman or done good wingmanning yourself. That being said, don't listen to the guy above you. Sure you might be able to get a wingwoman out of it, but it's much more likely that you…
/r/seduction13/03/19 01:55 PM
1

Well Tinder is about as superficial as it gets. I'd say it's more about the overall general hotness there. More tens means there are less girls going for eights.
/r/seduction10/03/19 03:12 PM
1

I'll come with. We can be an Eskimo tribe.
/r/seduction10/03/19 03:11 PM
17

Similar story to yours, but set it to Tokyo. Holy shit it was insane. Gave me a really good perspective on what it feels like to be a girl on Tinder and increased my desire to go to Japan.
/r/seduction09/03/19 02:32 PM
6

This is a question I struggled with a lot when I started out. I had a lot of different ideas and codes I followed that didn't make sense and were borne out of desperation or repression. My main takeaway was that you should be judged by your moral code and how you follow it. When I started getting success with girls, there was this temptation to disregard moral codes I had set myself, and follow others I had set myself prior out of desperation. I think we all have to face that question when we st…
/r/seduction08/03/19 10:30 AM
1

Is this some lyric? It's pretty damn awesome.
/r/seduction08/03/19 09:17 AM
1

Buddy I can tell you that you don't want a relationship that happens to you. I've been in one of those and they are miserable. Hell the reason I got into game was because I wanted to have a choice.
/r/seduction23/02/19 10:04 AM
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Yeah it's not about being ideal, it's about introducing chances into your life. They wanted places to meet people, they got an answer about places to meet people. It's never going to be easy. If it's easy, it's most likely a shallow connection or not a worthwhile one.
/r/seduction23/02/19 10:00 AM
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This stuff isn't easy, especially if you missed the social train in your life. No one is going to tell you where the magical switch is that removes all of your problems. If you want this, you need to work for it. A very large portion of the people on here pushed through big obstacles to get to where they are. Those same people are trying to help you with advice. Still it's going to mean fuck-all if you're just going to complain that options are hard.
/r/seduction23/02/19 09:48 AM
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Also make sure that the girls you are interested in know you're interested in them before and after befriending them. A line I've used often is: It'd be pretty weird if I couldn't be friends with people I'm attracted to.
/r/seduction23/02/19 09:32 AM
1

All of what you said is very true and something I preach myself. But I think he was just stating how it was going to be after college if he didn't do anything about it.
/r/seduction23/02/19 09:30 AM
2

I haven't tried it, but how about pulling a reverse-'you don't know what you missed' on her, if you haven't talked for a while? Make contact, do some small talk and then bring up that you had such a crush on her in the past and that she could have done something if she'd just picked up on it.
/r/seduction19/02/19 08:25 AM
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It comes down to the feelings you're giving off while asking it. They always trump what you're saying. If you're uncomfortable or unsure in some way when you ask it, you send those emotions to her and she'll feel the same way. Same way when you decide to playfully rib a girl, but you choose something about her you actually don't like. She picks up on it and it goes from playful to mean. I don't often ask if she wants to kiss, but when I do I either keep matter-of-fact or I focus on feeling how m…
/r/seduction19/02/19 08:23 AM
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'We want to learn skills that get people to like us, that let us be successful in life and get what we want out of it. Not with women though. That's scummy and manipulative.' Never understood that kind of thinking. I like both subs for the help they give.
/r/seduction19/02/19 08:19 AM
13

Nah this is just basic information. Being a pickup artist is like being a tennis player. Anyone can hit a ball with a tennis racket. Being a tennis player is about being able to position yourself in the right spot and to hit any type of ball that comes to you into any spot in any way you choose. Same way a pickup artist is someone that can from little to no interest to any success he wants and can read these and many other signs to figure out the best way to position himself.
/r/seduction19/02/19 08:17 AM
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A little... too normal...
/r/seduction19/02/19 08:14 AM
3

I was completely unaware of this, but it rings true with my own experience. I don't have a good enough grasp of where the point of no return is, but I've had times when there was going to be sex, but something came up and those never went anywhere afterwards (which I always thought was pretty weird until now). Can anyone help me out with examples and theories to better narrow down the PNR? Moments I've thought of were either five minutes to sex and one iffy one where she thought I was too old wh…
/r/seduction14/02/19 11:24 PM
7

You joke, but a friend of mine showed her his album collection.
/r/seduction14/02/19 11:18 PM
1

Well you needed a reason for it. Even having written on a piece of paper some excuse or bet would be a good idea. You can do it through gravitas alone, but you're not going to accomplish that unless you're skilled or have that kind of personality to begin with.
/r/seduction09/02/19 11:31 PM
2

Get her to help you order a drink. That gets her alone with you at the bar and a lot of opportunity for incidental intimate touches, eye contact, bonding, joking and 'us against the world' mood making.
/r/seduction09/02/19 11:29 PM
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I'll be viciously frank. I hope I do not offend you. My advice was aimed at a normal individual with normal cognitive abilities. Much advice relating to headspace breaks apart when you take outliers into account. Similarly the usual advice of hyping yourself up, taking your energy up to 10 and being the life of the party will not be a good idea for a person that suffers from manic episodes. In fact, that person might have meds specifically to avoid that. I can't talk on whether you can make effe…
/r/seduction09/02/19 11:28 PM
1

Exactly. Also, that last one is like a fucking unicorn.
/r/seduction08/02/19 09:52 PM
4

When you learn a new language, you change yourself. You gain a better way to express yourself as that new language has new expressions for things that were up to then ineffable to you. You also form your thoughts differently which changes your mode of thought. What changes you more than changing how you think? It's a pretty common thing to know someone that has a huge personality change from early to late life. Mostly doing with confidence and/or more/less asshole-ishness. Also, a huge portion o…
/r/seduction08/02/19 09:48 PM
2

Yeah just like the standard method of hoping a girl in your friend (or your friend's friend) group shows you interest and marries you works for millions of people. We're not here because we want to do what barely works for millions. And it barely works.
/r/seduction08/02/19 01:37 PM
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I got a couple of tips for those that are new to cocky comedy: Another way to think of it is that you are the hero of the film that just entered the room. You are Van Wilder himself and you know, like everyone else, that the world is your oyster. You want to go absolutely as far over the top as you can when starting out. You're going to subconsciously tone yourself down and that's going to either make you less cocky than you should be, or cause you to vacillate and come off as insecure. The para…
/r/seduction08/02/19 12:19 PM
6

This is it right here!!! We tend to idolize these guys, but they're usually absolute messes! I've meet three of these guys that could get any girl they want based on looks. It usually means they're personality is under-developed, they have personal issues and they lack any ability to game because they've always been allowed to win. I'll tell you the story of those three and I promise you after reading it you will be happy with your life of average looks and good game: Chad 1 could be Tom Cruise'…
/r/seduction08/02/19 12:08 PM
3

Dude Tinder is absolute bullshit. It's just text game so of course everything will barely work because nearly every rule is based on emotional and personal contact.
/r/seduction08/02/19 11:05 AM
8

Everyone has one of two stories on here: They had a bad breakup and wanted actual control over their dating life to never have to go through that again. They never had any luck with women actual control over their dating life to never have to go through that again.
/r/seduction08/02/19 11:03 AM
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People (girls especially) are always appalled to hear when someone is learning pickup or seduction, then they hear what they're actually learning and they're confused because they thought it was some mix of voodoo and roofies.
/r/seduction08/02/19 11:01 AM
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That's actually easy bro. Your brain is incredibly malleable. Start by acting like you got this new mindset. That means you think 'what would I do if I thought like this' and then acting on it. Then when you get a better feel for it you start talking like it. When you get an even better feel for it, you go into character and completely take over that person. Soon you will actually think like that. People think this is somehow impossible, but learning a language, something that requires you to co…
/r/seduction08/02/19 10:57 AM
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Yeah this is still news to a lot of guys, especially newbies. We look at this and think 'isn't that fucking obvious?', but talk to some regular guys and it's like you're solving the DaVinci Code in front of them.
/r/seduction08/02/19 10:53 AM
1

Find interests or make them. I'd recommend taking up something physical. Martial arts are a good choice. I've had a great time with BJJ, MMA and boxing. A guy I know does circus style shit like vaulting, gymnastic tricks and juggling. Another does Parkour. Another does rock climbing. If you live in a city, I'm sure all of those have some kind of club in your vicinity. If you don't want something physical (though do remember to always exercise), there are a ton of class-type hobbies to take up li…
/r/seduction03/02/19 10:45 PM
6

To add to what /u/xxsimplyjosh said, it is entirely like cold water. Your body hates it and it will never stop hating it. Still you have people that swim in the ocean for fun because it's a fun thing to do. You need to become like those people. Well how do you start? If you watch these people, you'll notice that you have two groups when they go into the water. You have those that jump in and fully submerge themselves when they get in to the water and those that gradually, bit by bit, submerge th…
/r/seduction01/02/19 01:35 PM
3

I get going for a call as soon as possible. It's hard getting a face to face so a call at least gets you a bit of human interaction to woo her. Have you tried getting them to do facetime? Could say it's because you want to make sure they're not catfishing you. Oh and do you have issues with your work going cold between responses? I've had pretty good conversations, but often a lot of groundwork has gone completely unrewarded due to her 'forgetting' that emotional high when there are large interv…
/r/seduction26/01/19 09:40 PM
4

... And then they're back 2 months later when the relationship doesn't work out and they're back at #1.
/r/seduction25/01/19 05:55 PM
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I feel like 7. should be that they get satisfied with the most meagre results. They get one girl that's not that bad, try to wifey her and feel there's no more reason to continue.
/r/seduction25/01/19 05:46 PM
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The fool doesn't realize that you've hidden all the self-confidence away and only give it out to those that hire you! Hahahaha!!
/r/seduction25/01/19 05:42 PM
2

The reason r/seduction doesn't teach that more is because it's fucking awful advice for a beginner. The advice given is to go all out because they are extremely repressed and therefore aren't likely to go way too far. There's also a lot to be learned from going way too far. If you haven't fucked up sets because you went too far, you're not going to have a good feel for how far you can go. When you give a beginner the advice that they should follow their own path and decide for themselves what do…
/r/seduction22/01/19 03:44 PM
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