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I'm a 28 year old man, & I suspect that an 18 year-old woman coworker has a crush on me. What should I do?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:20 AM
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Its an entirely cultural & psychological phenomenon. In the past when people were much poorer, almost everyone was married with multiple children by 30. That kind of thing is also more common today in poor countries than in rich countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 08:58 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:04 PM
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We both want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:21 PM
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I'm a religious virgin looking for marriage. How would it help me to date non exclusively?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:20 PM
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😭 Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:18 PM
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Thoughts on a 28 year old man dating a 37 year old woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:37 AM
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I do!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:41 PM
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Understandable. The drinking age is 19 here, & neither if us are big bar people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:50 PM
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Bible study.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:47 PM
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28M dating a 20F. AMA!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:59 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:08 PM
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I'm going on the first 2nd date of my life soon. AMA!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:00 PM
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How can I maximize the possibility of it working out long term?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:52 PM
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I think that a smaller gap would be ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:51 PM
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Men with a lot of partners = red flag Women with a lot of partners = red flag Male virgins = green flag Female virgins = green flag
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 05:01 AM
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We're both relatively conservative Christians interested in marriage & family who live in the same city & have mutual friends. I don't have any really close friends, though my friend groups do include 20 yo guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 04:58 AM
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Thoughts on a 28 year old man dating a 20 year old woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:48 AM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:34 PM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:33 PM
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It hasn't occurred yet. I'm about to leave for it!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:22 PM
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Yes. I don't think she's as devout or as conservative as me, but she seems to be heading in that direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 05:56 AM
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No, I thought that would be too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 05:51 AM
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I have a date in a few hours. Feel free to offer me advice or to ask me questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 05:03 AM
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No. There's no development in AI that would make me want to date it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 04:25 AM
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We're in Canada. She's lived most of her life in India but currently lives in Canada, whereas I've lived in Canada my whole life. My parents are from Romania.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:38 PM
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Always 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:34 PM
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Should a guy bring flowers to a coffee date which is also a 1st date?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:27 PM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:58 PM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:52 PM
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She asked me out by Insta DM. Presumably she thinks I'm cute. We both live in the same Canadian city.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:52 PM
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When you have a date with a woman set a few days in advance, how much should you talk or text with her until then?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:45 PM
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A woman just asked me out. AMA!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:44 PM
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The important thing is that your comment is wrong. Much of the world has more extreme politics than America, & Europeans as a whole aren't more accepting of political disagreement in a partner or family member than Americans as a whole are. You're the one who made this conversation about the world as a whole, & in particular about Europe. Why would you specify "europe" when you think that European countries aren't "worth considering on PPD"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 01:11 AM
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This isn't an America-specific subreddit. They're European countries, so they're well worth considering in light of your reference to Europe, as well as your reference to "anywhere else" outside of America.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 11:47 PM
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Much of the world has much more extreme politics than America. The American right as a whole (including most Trump supporters) is downright liberal compared the right in countries like Hungary, Romania, or Ukraine, or compared to the entire political spectrum in countries like Russia.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:55 AM
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In marriage, I believe that the wife should defer to the husband when there is a big decision to be made which affects their entire family (such as choosing whether or not to move to a new location, making a big purchase, or the general details of how they raise their children). I see this submission as a necessary part of a happy & healthy marriage. I don't just mean non-combative, easy going, patient, or calm. I believe that God gives husbands real authority over their wives, just as elders ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:44 PM
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If you don't mind my asking, what area do you live in, & what race & social class are you & your girlfriend? I'm a 28 year old middle-class white guy in the suburbs near Toronto. In my area, in my experience, middle-class white women under 30 generally refuse to openly associate with men are openly "a bit racist & sexist". They'll hook up with them on the down-low if they're hot, but generally won't date them seriously or even be good friends with them. They may put up with it for a little if he…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:24 PM
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First!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 03:21 AM
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N/A. I'd never ask her to go back to my room unless we were already married.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 06:23 AM
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It absolutely is possible for an average man in the West to support a family on his salary alone...they'll just be "poor" by contemporary Western standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:32 PM
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How can I improve my chances of success when meeting women at singles events?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:32 AM
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Q 4 Men attracted to women: Have you ever had dating success from mixers or other events specifically for singles? If so, what did you do exactly, & what factors do you think contributed to your success?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 06:47 PM
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There won't be alcohol there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:35 PM
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Q4A: I'm going to a singles mixer soon. I've never been to one before. Any advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 03:52 AM
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In the modern West, the status quo is socially progressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 10:37 PM
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How do you explain the fact that (in America & in other Western countries, at least) the political gender gap seems to have arose around 1980s, & that before that, women tended to be right-wing as much as or even more so than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 10:35 PM
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Women should ideally start having kids once they reach 30 at the very latest. Men can be a little older, though I think that age gaps of more than 10 years or so are almost always foolish . Unfortunately, marriage minded people often struggle to find someone young. I myself am an example of someone who failed to get married or have kids like I would've wanted to. At 21, I set a goal for myself to get married by 25 & have at least 2 kids by 30. I'm still single at 28.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 11:45 PM
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I wouldn't mind one 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:33 PM
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My parents moved from Romania to Canada. Is the difference in prosperity between those two countries big enough to make me a hypothetical "passport bro"? Anecdotally based on what I've heard & seen, women from there aren't into Western men like they used to be. For the most part, it seems that those who are desperate to leave just go work or study in a Western European EU country on their own (legal & easy since Romania joined the EU), & those that continue to live in Romania despite having the …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 06:00 PM
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My parents are immigrants. Would I be a "passport bro" if I went to my ancestral homeland & dated there?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:48 PM
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Going Dutch may be the norm in Western Europe, but in other parts (especially Russia, Ukraine, & the Balkans), gender norms in dating are even stronger than in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 03:34 AM
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Q4Men who have dated a woman you knew from your social circle: Could you tell that she was into you, or did you take a risk by asking her out without knowing? If you could tell, how exactly did her behaviour towards you differ from other women in you social circle who just want to be friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 08:49 PM
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How exactly did you get a GF?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 11:49 PM
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I wouldn't consider such a thing until I've had at least 2 children. Because it's new, we don't really know what the long term effects are. I'm highly skeptical of any invasive contraceptive procedure. I likewise wouldn't except my wife to get an IUD or any other such thing. I'm skeptical of artificial contraception (especially condoms) in general for theological reasons, though not 100% against it. I'm skeptical of hormonal birth control for women as it currently exists b/c it can have massive …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 05:13 PM
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I could definitely see this technology reducing birth rates. Much of America's decline in birthrates over the last 20 years or so seems to be due to declining teen pregnancy due to increased sex ed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 05:00 PM
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2nd!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 02:25 AM
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If I don't see any deal breakers in her & am pretty sure that she's real, I'd respond very positively.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 08:41 PM
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My impression is that Gen Z tends to be more into getting stoned than getting drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 12:28 AM
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How helpful is money for autistic guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 08:56 PM
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Yes, absolutely. At 28, I already feel old & feel like there are hardly anymore good options left for me. I'm also afraid of settling for someone who isn't a good fit for me due to this fear of growing old alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 04:11 AM
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By definition, women who meet my standards generally submit to their husbands, regardless of personality. It's entirely possible for a woman with a dominant personality to nevertheless submit to her husband out of religious obligation. That being said, I understand the problem of women in these spaces failing to live according to their professed values by dominating their husbands, & I specifically vet for women who aren't like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 06:24 PM
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People often do have a strict checklist. "Must be a virgin" isn't on my list, though it is a fair standard to have. I would prefer a virgin, which makes sense because I'm a religious virgin myself. Like most people, I essentially just want someone I have mutual attraction with who wants the same things I do. I don't necessarily expect her to give up her job. I am willing to make great sacrifices for the sake of my family, & I prioritize the well-being of my family above my selfish ambitions. I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 05:41 AM
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It's pretty common for women in my circles to tick all of those boxes. I don't know what you think is contradictory about them. The issue is more so that most of them are taken by their mid-20s, so the single ones are generally 5+ years younger than me & still in school, & the few left close to me in age keep rejecting me/not showing me any romantic interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 07:56 PM
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Every normal person has a checklist. Would you rather I settle for someone I'm not compatible with, leading to us & any children we have being miserable?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 05:46 PM
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It's as good an answer as any for a personal preference. From the perspective of mainstream Western culture/Reddit, I'm already in a "cult", i.e. I'm a devout Evangelical who regularly attends church, & my parents & most of my extended family are the same. From our perspective, producing children is indeed something we *have* to do, unless we're called to celibacy or we experience fertility issues in our marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 05:41 PM
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There aren't many old ladies at my church, but I'm on good terms with them. Head of household means that the man has ultimate decision-making power & ultimate responsibility. That dynamic should obviously coexist with lots of teamwork. If it were up to me, I'd prefer an egalitarian relationship, but I'm convinced that the Bible demands that men lead in marriage. Whether or not such a marriage is "equal" depends on how exactly you define "equal". It isn't slavery because it's consensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 08:03 AM
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Why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 07:46 AM
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My degree's in History.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 07:45 AM
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I think that its better for the kids that way. That's how I was raised, & how things have been done for ages. Middle-class women with young children having full-time jobs outside the home is a fairly new trend, & I'm not convinced that it's an improvement. I understand that my type is rare. I don't strongly care about her level if schooling. I understand that my type is rare. With the education & fallback options I have, I'm virtually guaranteed to make at least an average living soon. At the en…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:18 AM
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I didn't say I necessarily want a single income household. That being said, there are several singe-income households around me, as well a many where the wife only works for money part-time (including my own parents).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 04:04 AM
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It means that the man has ultimate decision-making power. This is supported by the church. If she left me for no good reason, she'd be excluded by our church community, which likely includes much of her family & friends. It isn't necessarily based on personal qualities other than her being a devout Christian who shares my views, which among other things includes a commitment to male leadership in marriage. The man makes the final call as to how their household saves & spends money, though in a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 03:08 PM
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I have both a university degree & a college diploma. I currently barely make minimum wage. I have no consumer debt, only mostly paid off student loans & part of the mortgage for the house I share with my parents. I'm in decent shape but not particularly muscular. I'm 5'10. My face is probably perceived as average or below-average by most people, but I love the way it looks. I have a decent jawline, a decent beard, & a big nose for a white guy. I'm beginning to lose my hair. I'm in my late 20s. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 07:55 AM
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What culture was he from?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 10:55 PM
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IDK if I would be happier. I'm not going to advocate for something like state-enforced Sharia because it isn't realistically achievable here in Canada where I live, or in any other similar progressive/secular/Western country, & because I have ideological commitments to what I would consider a fairly liberal society, both for ethical reasons & because I think that its in my best interests. I do think that sexual activity outside of hetero-patriarchal marriage is wrong, but I have no issue with mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 01:14 PM
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I'd choose A in both cases. In the first case, B isn't an option at all because someone willing to fornicate doesn't meet my standards. In the second case, I'd be OK with B if she was willing to only work outside the home part-time as long as our kids were elementary-school-age.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 05:56 AM
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Rittenhouse obviously didn't deliberately commit an act of political violence. Me merely legally defended himself with a weapon he legally possessed in a place he was legally entitled to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 09:51 PM
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Yeah, that's exactly my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 09:26 PM
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Q4All: Can an autistic man be cool, fun, witty, exciting, &c.?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 04:59 AM
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Your title question is a bit of a false dichotomy, I think. I've met lots of women who are religious, right-wing, or who are, were, or want to be SAHMs, or some combination of the above, in both North America & in Eastern Europe. Many of them don't expect men to spend extravagantly on them during dating, or didn't expect men to do so back when they were dating. Many of them want men to pay or at least appreciate it when they do, but they don't necessarily want expensive restaurant dates or big t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:09 PM
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I'm a Canadian right-wing male. I don't know the details of this law, but I don't think that there's anything wrong with restricting or banning porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:03 PM
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Sounds like she's chaste again, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:26 AM
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She *was* chaste, but she stopped being so for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 12:38 AM
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If she were really "chaste", then she wouldn't have sex with you at all outside of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 10:47 PM
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If that's the case, then why did women consistently vote more conservative than men in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 10:45 PM
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I've lived my whole life in a deeply secular & progressive area. If I'd grown up in your area, I'd probably be married by now, & not desperately lonely like I currently am.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 10:12 PM
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I doubt the premise of your question. I don't think that there are large numbers of conservative men who date liberal women & pressure them to dress more conservative, go to church, & not wear makeup. That being said, I'm a conservative man who's open to dating liberal women. I prefer conservative women, but I have very limited options, so I take what I can get. I may be willing to overlook who she votes for, but I probably wouldn't date someone whom I think dresses immodestly, or who doesn't go…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 10:09 PM
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Overall, no. I'm diagnosed with NVLD, which is similar to Asperger's/high-functioning autism. I'm naturally bad at reading people. Women with such conditions tend to be victims of abuse. I'm good at vetting people in terms of the values they publicly claim to hold, but bad at vetting people in terms of what their true intentions are & what they're actually like deep inside. I think that this would also be the case if I were a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:56 PM
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Can't afford to rn., & there's no one else around here to look after my parents in their old age. I am open to moving & have seriously considered it (in which case I'll pay for people to look after my parents, or they themselves might move to a more conservative area, in which case I might move with them) but I'm not quite desperate enough for that yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 11:48 PM
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I am myself am a more-or-less conservative man. By the standards of the culture around me, I'm ultraconservative on social issues & centrist on economic issues. I'd rather not date liberal women, but I'm open to it because I'm desperately lonely. It's a struggle for me simply to meet a woman who meets my minimal standards & is willing to date me. To make matters worse, I've lived my whole life in a deeply liberal area.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 10:35 PM
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Unless maybe one or both of them is still in school, I think that women should break up with men who don't propose or otherwise make serious moves to marriage after a year or so of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:36 AM
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It's a highly contentious issue in Christianity. Sexual cheating being the only justification for divorce is probably the most straightforward/literal interpretation of Jesus' words on the issue, so that's the position many conservative Protestants take. I'm not Catholic myself, but AFAIK the Catholic Church doesn't allow divorce at all, but does allow annulment in certain cases, such if one or both of the parties never intended to be monogamous, & also doesn't recognize/automatically annuls mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 04:26 PM
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Doesn't your faith (Catholicism) totally forbid divorce (except for what it terms "annulments" which may sometimes coincide with civil divorce), & generally forbid people who are divorced & remarried according to secular law from receiving communion?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 03:50 PM
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How can I be more confident/come across as more confident to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 07:47 AM
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It's a Catholic term for a sermon.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 12:58 PM
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How do outgoing yet kinda awkward 20-something church girls act around guys they recently met whom they want to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:42 AM
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I'd probably give it to her. I'd absolutely never expect a woman I'm on a date with to pay for dinner under any circumstances. It's a nice gesture if she offers to pay, but I prefer to pay, especially on a first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:38 AM
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Here in Canada, you'd be considered far-right.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:32 AM
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I support workplace democracy. I'm progressive when it comes to urbanism & transportation (loosening zoning laws, taking away space from cars, investing heavily in public transit, &c.) I'd support higher taxes if it meant we got rid of peacetime budget deficits + got rid of most government-enforced monopolies (such as for alcohol) nationwide.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:32 AM
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Based Lily 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:23 AM
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I've already asked. They said no 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 01:19 AM
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What am I supposed to do if I'm against sex outside of marriage for religious reasons, & so are all the women I'm willing to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:25 PM
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The only way I could do that is by asking our mutuals about her. She has tons of pictures with no boyfriend in sight, but I suppose it's possible that she just got into a relationship, or that her guy doesn't like photos of him being publicly posted online.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 03:30 PM
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You don't think it's rude if a man doesn't pay for a meal/drinks?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 01:12 AM
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Thoughts on DMing a woman I have mutuals with?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 01:08 AM
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I'm only willing to date other Christians. I'm definitely open to Maliyali & other Indian women, though I also noticed that those who are willing to date outside their culture tend to be career-oriented.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 09:26 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 09:04 PM
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I'm diagnosed with NVLD, which impairs nonverbal communication similarly to Asperger's/high-functioning autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 08:34 PM
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Respectfully, do you have tips for exactly how a neurodivergent man like myself can do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 07:07 PM
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I'm skinny-fat, under 6' tall, have an unusually large amount of body hair & unusually large nose for a white person, & at 27 years old, I'm balding. In terms of personality, I strongly suspect that I have autism (I'm diagnosed with NVLD which is similar) & I'm naturally introverted, neurotic, passive, quiet, risk-avoidant, & I have difficulty dealing with disruptions to my schedule, new experiences, receiving & sending body language & other social cues, or any kind of wit, banter, or flirting. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:35 PM
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I personally know many married couples were the wife is mostly a homemaker, & either has no job or only a part time job aside from that. All of them live in the developed world, & most of them live in or within commuting distance of a big city.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:33 PM
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Kissing other areas is fine, as long as it isn't sexual. No living together before marriage, changing in the same room, or sleeping in the same bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:46 PM
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Kissing is OK. No seeing her in her underwear.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:42 PM
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No sexual contact whatsoever. I refuse to see the other person naked.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:39 PM
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IDK :/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:27 PM
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Pálinka.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:09 PM
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I'm a volcel. AMA!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:49 PM
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I'm already doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 03:57 PM
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That's all true, but the trend OP notes (men tend to hunt big game & do heavy labour while women tend to gather, look after children, & keep house) is generally true across all of human culture throughout history.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 02:20 PM
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I'm a volcel looking for a wife. How would pretending to be a fornicator help my situation? Keep in mind that both lying (unless a life is a on the line) & fornication are forbidden by my religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 02:15 PM
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I'm a volcel looking for a wife. How would violating my religion help me find a wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 02:13 PM
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I've gone on dates, but I've always been a volcel for religious reasons. I've been busy with school for most of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:34 AM
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I'm a 27 year old man, & I've never been in a relationship. What should I tell people (especially women I want to date) when they ask me about relationship experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:07 AM
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"Sorry, I'm religious".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 12:51 AM
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Because I have NVLD (basically like autism), I'm naturally a stiff, socially awkward weirdo. No matter how hard I've tried over the years, I simply don't have the natural ability to make women laugh that most normal men seem to have. What am I supposed to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 09:20 PM
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Did he initially flirt/tease/joke around like neurotypical guys do? Did he initiate by asking you out on a date in the conventional sense? Did he, or does he, generally lead in the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 11:19 PM
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Question for women who are in a relationship with or married to an man with Autism/Asperger's/NVLD: What, specifically, made him attractive to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 09:58 PM
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What percentage of men who had such an active faith were you attracted to/open to dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 04:29 AM
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How did you meet so many religious men? Or did you become religious later in life?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 04:27 AM
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What's the percentage for men who fully meet your religious requirements?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 03:40 AM
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IDK, I know plenty of clean, polite, & respectful men who are neither religious, nor right-wing, nor libertarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 01:42 AM
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Q4W: What percentage of single men close to you in age in your social circle would you be open to dating? What specific traits do they have which other who you *don't* want to date lack?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 12:25 AM
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How exactly does a man look "clearly religious/right-wing/libertarian"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 12:16 AM
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Why not? It's interesting & passes the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 07:18 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 01:57 PM
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It just means Christian. I'm voluntarily celibate in that I refuse to have sex outside of marriage, but I'm involuntarily celibate in that I'm struggling to find a wife who meets my standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 04:38 PM
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This wouldn't happen to me because I refuse to have sex outside of marriage. If my crush did everything you described minus sleeping with me, I'd dump her if she doesn't introduce me to her friends & family soon (unless her family lives far away).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:11 AM
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Sometimes I score INTP, sometimes INFP. I am strongly introverted & intuitive, but more or less in the middle when it comes to feeling/thinking & judging/perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 12:05 AM
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I care, but I'm determined/lonely/desperate enough to try anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 11:26 PM
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Very desperate!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 10:05 PM
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I've already gotten desensitized to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 09:40 PM
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Should I only ask out women I know from church/Bible study if they show very clear indicators of interest, or should I go for it even if things are ambiguous?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 09:22 PM
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Question for neurodivergent men in relationships with or married to women, & for women in relationships with or married to neurodivergent men: Did you/your man (as the case may be) figure out how to flirt like regular people, or did they get their relationship without doing so? If so, how?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 03:58 AM
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How can a man succeed with women despite not being naturally funny or witty?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 06:58 AM
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What about women who are introverted, saving themselves for marriage, or have little dating experience? Should I expect a woman like that to make it super obvious, such as by going out of her way to touch me, if she's interested in me?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:58 PM
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Questions for men attracted to women: - Roughly what percentage of women who you meet from work, school, mutual friends, &c., & whom you want to date, show any signs of interest in you? - Roughly what percentage of women say yes when you ask them out? - Based on the above, how well are you able tell whether or not a woman is open to dating you, or is just being friendly? - If you're able to reliably gauge women's interest, what exactly do you look for or notice?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:42 AM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 10:40 PM
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What about a man who believes that both men & women are inherently selfish & evil?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 10:37 PM
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I'm not set on dating a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 09:38 PM
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I start thinking about marriage before the first date 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:30 AM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:53 AM
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I agree that it's probably best to not know too much about her past.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:51 AM
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Only God can judge who gets into heaven. It's completely nonsensical to interpret that to mean that it's wrong to have any standards when it comes to choosing your spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:50 AM
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Everybody has some unattractive feature. I definitely don't necessarily think that a given woman is unattractive in totality simply because she made some mistakes in the past. I absolutely pursue dating other virgins, but I can't afford to be too picky, & I see no real reason to not pursue a woman simply because she isn't a virgin. I do limit myself to those who believe that sex should only be had in marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:48 AM
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I feel the same way. I'd prefer a virgin, & the kind of women I'm into tend to be virgins, but it isn't a requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:45 AM
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Nobody's perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:35 AM
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I can accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:31 AM
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I'm against sex outside of marriage & I think that it's unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:08 PM
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Sex means a lot to me, though, & I wouldn't marry someone who doesn't feel the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:07 PM
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Is that even the case if she's since become genuinely religious?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:05 PM
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IDK. The other day in the daily thread I asked what guys thought of dating a woman who had probably been promiscuous. Some people questioned whether someone like me could fall in love with someone like that, & most seemed to agree that it's a bad idea regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:00 PM
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I'm a male virgin. Is it possible for me to like as a romantic partner, fall in love with, & get heavily invested in a woman who isn't a virgin, or was even promiscuous? Even if it's possible, is it a good idea for me to go for such a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 09:51 PM
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What exactly makes a man a good partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 04:42 PM
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I suppose that's true. I think that the biggest risk is that I'll become resentful due to her past, though I like to think that that won't happen. I don't think that I'm capable of knowing how risky she herself is because I'm not a very good judge of character & I have almost no relationship experience. Both statistically & from what I anecdotally see around me, family-oriented devoutly religious women like herself tend not to be risky, but of course there are many examples of women like that go…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 11:17 PM
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I don't yet know exactly what her "wild past" entailed. All I know for sure is that she drank excessively & stopped trying to actively practice Christianity. It's possible that she wasn't actually promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 11:05 PM
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Are a nose ring, tattoos, & wild past always a deal breaker for you when looking for a wife, even if she's fully changed & otherwise ticks all your boxes?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 10:54 PM
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Are a nose ring, tattoos, & wild past always a deal breaker for you when looking for a wife, even if she's fully changed & otherwise ticks all your boxes?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 10:54 PM
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In this case, she has the same views on sex as I do. We both believe that sex outside of marriage is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 10:47 PM
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Are you concerned that I'll end up resenting her in the long term? I'm concerned about that too, but I have such little relationship experience that I don't really know how I'll do. I'd really like to think that I won't let it affect me in the long run?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:26 AM
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I'll take everything you said into consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:09 AM
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I can't love someone if I see them as poison, but I've been absolutely obsessed with women in spite of what I saw as big flaws. This woman is absolutely the type I could fall madly in love with.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:08 AM
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I think it's a little harsh to call her poison just because she made some mistakes (which may not even be anything considered wrong or unusual by secular people) & looks slightly artsy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:01 AM
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Interesting. As long as I can get over her past (which I'm very eager to do), I don't see why I wouldn't like her as a romantic partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:56 AM
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The fact is, there is indeed a scarcity of women who meet my standards, who are willing to date me, & whom I have opportunities to meet. Your scenario is possible, but so is the opposite. Given how few my options are, there's a nonzero chance that I'll never have another chance with a beautiful, fun, young, woman who shares my values & my life goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:49 AM
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I'm desperate to invest in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:38 AM
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What does it mean to be desperate for someone but not that into them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:35 AM
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I tend to fall for women & to go all in very quickly. I once got so obsessed with a woman with a checkered past that it took me months to get over her rejecting me, during which months I cried myself to sleep over her several times.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:30 AM
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Yeah, I can't afford to be too picky. Whatever happens, happens. Plus I have almost no relationship experience, which means that I'll at least gain some of that. Hopefully some hard lessons will toughen me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:44 AM
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That all makes sense. IDK, maybe I can't think right because I'm lonely, horny, & baby-crazy :/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:32 AM
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Both the woman & I are devout Christians. We believe that sex outside of marriage is immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:30 AM
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So far I don't know exactly what her "wild phase" entailed, other than walking away from the church & drinking a lot. Both of us are devout Christians, so of course we both have lots of remorse over our misdeeds.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:28 AM
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Yeah, I'm fairly certain, but I don't know her that well. I agree 100% on single moms (unless maybe she's a widow or a rape victim).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:20 AM
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IDK if or to what extent she was promiscuous. All she's admitted to concretely so far is that she used to drink excessively & not attend church.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:15 AM
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TBH I don't know if or to what extent she was promiscuous. "Wild phase" in context meant excessive drinking & generally not being a devout Christian on her part.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:07 AM
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Are a nose ring, tattoos, & wild past always a deal breaker for you when looking for a wife, even if she's fully changed & otherwise ticks all your boxes?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:03 AM
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A single ring in one nostril + a few small tattoos isn't really seen as alt anymore in my setting (young, educated, middle-class people in the vicinity of a big city).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:56 AM
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I tend to avoid risk myself, but marriage in general is risky. She doesn't seem risky to me, especially compared to other women, but I'm not very good at reading people. She isn't a single mom either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:53 AM
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I have such little relationship experience that I don't really know what I'm comfortable with in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:49 AM
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Question for men attracted to women: would you date a woman who has a nose ring & multiple tattoos, & openly to admits to having had a wild phase, but has sobered up & seems genuinely remorseful? Would it change anything if she's good looking (both good genetics & takes care of herself), fun, smart, younger than 35 (& close to you in age if you're 35 or younger yourself), family-oriented, health-conscious but not in a weird way, responsible with money but not miserly, had a good upbringing, has …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:06 AM
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I've thought about doing that, I guess I'll give it a try.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:56 PM
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Yes, I've been on some.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 06:29 AM
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Roughly, but not in detail. What about issues aside from sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 06:17 AM
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Not interested in getting a woman from their at all. I am, however, open to finding someone in Romania (where my parents are from) or Hungary (where most of my extended family lives).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 06:13 AM
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South East Asia? I've never been there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 06:05 AM
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At 27, I've never had a girlfriend. If I ever get into a relationship, is it likely that my lack of experience will cause problems? If so, what can I do right now, while still single, to mitigate such problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 05:58 AM
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I talk to them in person as friends/acquaintances, but because we're always in a group in person I ask them out through social media or the phone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 05:53 AM
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How did you get into your current relationship without being able to easily tell the difference between someone being friendly and flirting?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 03:30 AM
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Canada.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 06:33 PM
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What indicators of interest should I look for from women I'm acquaintances/casual friends with through church or Bible study? Much dating advice is centered around getting casual sex from cold approaches or from dating apps, which is useless in my situation. I see tons of guys who marry women from church or para-church organizations, but I've gotten shot down every time I've tried to ask such a woman out :/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 06:27 PM
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What indicators of interest should I look for from women I'm acquaintances/casual friends with through church or Bible study? Much dating advice is centered around getting casual sex from cold approaches or from dating apps, which is useless in my situation. I see tons of guys who marry women from church or para-church organizations, but I've gotten shot down every time I'd tried to ask such a woman out :/
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 05:18 PM
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Like a gold ring in a pig's snout is a beautiful woman without discretion. - Proverbs 11:22
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 03:43 AM
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What did that actually look like in practice?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 05:48 AM
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Question for people who have ever been in a relationship: What exactly did you learn in your past relationships that makes you better at relationships now?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 05:06 AM
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Is going out to bars really that bad if the person in question doesn't like casual sex or getting drunk & doesn't carry themselves aggressively?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 04:59 AM
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Among Gen Z, a single ring in one nose and a handful of small tattoos seem to be so normalized that they don't indicate promiscuity like they did in the past/still do among older generations. I've met several marriage-oriented, conservative Christian women with them. Maybe I'm just naïve, IDK.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 03:04 PM
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If she's a devout Christian now, would you assume that she had a promiscuous past?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:54 PM
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Technically true because we're all sinners!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:53 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 07:29 AM
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What if she's a devout Christian? Should I assume that she has a dark past?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 07:08 AM
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That doesn't explain why Northern Europe is more fertile than Southern Europe, or why Israel (including secular Israelis) has above-replacement fertility when many other countries which are much less educated & much harsher to women are less fertile. It also doesn't explain why women in Western countries consistently have less kids than they say they want in surveys.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 06:17 AM
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Is it a red flag if a girl has a nose ring & several tattoos?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 06:13 AM
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He's effectively harassing others by being obnoxiously loud to the point where his neighbours are disturbed by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:29 PM
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People like that belong in jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 03:34 AM
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That's in the context of religious instruction. Those same passages also require both men & women to submit to religious & secular leaders. The only differences in submission between men & women are that a) certain religious leadership roles are limited to men, & b) women are required to submit to the one man they choose to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:20 AM
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Question for women who are attracted to masculine men: Is it possible for a man to be masculine in a way which you find attractive if he's introverted and tends not to smile as much as the average North American?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:26 AM
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In Christianity, submission is indeed a role women play towards the man they choose to be their husbands. That also generally seems to be the case with Islam, Judaism, & pre-Christian European polytheism, though I'm less familiar with those faiths. Aside from sexual violence committed against the out-group, It seems almost universal across all of human society over the span of thousands of years to respect the right of women to only be submissive to a specific man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:40 AM
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Not sure what you consider hardline. I'm not a Calvinist but I'm I'm open to Calvinist women. My current church doesn't have a stance on Arminianism vs Calvinism but AFAIK the lead pastor is Arminian.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 02:15 AM
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I go to a non-denomination charismatic church, broadly similar to Calvary Chapel or the Vineyard.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 02:09 AM
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Unfortunately, I'm Protestant. I'm no more compatible with a seriously Catholic or Orthodox woman than I am with a Protestant woman who is politically progressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:36 PM
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Most of the young, single women I've met through church or Christian para-church organizations are liberal :/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:58 PM
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Q4All: Do you know any young, conservative men who live in progressive areas and are married to or in a relationship with a conservative woman? If so, where did the 2 of them meet?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:48 PM
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I'm a neurotic man, & yet I approach & pursue women 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 04:52 AM
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Q4All: In your experience, what are signs that someone is likely to be right wing or left wing, & how do these differ between men & women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 05:25 PM
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I don't think that a single ring in one nostril is particularly flashy or out of the norm in contemporary North American society.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 05:16 PM
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In my experience, it's true of septum piercings, but not a ring in one nostril. Among Gen Z, rings-in-one-nostril are so normalized that I've met several women with them who are religious, right-wing, & seemingly have good mental health & good relationships with their fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 04:49 PM
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Where do they meet their husbands?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 07:49 PM
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He isn't really implementing "standard issue conservatism", though. That would involve being anti-Russia, pro-free-trade, & anti-deficit-spending-unless-we're-actively-involved-in-a-big-war. Compared to both the religious right & the pre-Trump Republican establishment, he's actually relatively moderate on abortion & even on Israel. For the most part, he only seems to support conventional conservative policies when there's broad popular support for them (or, on economics issues, when he thinks th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:06 PM
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Last week, I met a woman during a dance lesson/social dance. She started attending recently, & it looks like she'll be a regular. The other day I saw her on my Hinge standouts. Should I shoot my shot ASAP on the app, or wait until I have a chance to build some more chemistry in person before asking for her number/asking her out in person? I don't go dancing very often, so I won't see her again for several weeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 03:52 AM
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Yes, I'd absolutely still prefer to marry a "low n" woman. I'd ideally prefer a virgin like myself, though I'd probably be willing to accept a sexual past as long as a) she wasn't religious at the time & b) she never had hookups, only relationships. I believe that all sexual activity outside of heterosexual marriage is immoral, & I refuse to date women who don't adhere to the same moral code.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 07:56 PM
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At a recent dance, I ran into a girl who'd previously rejected me on a dating app. It looks like she's going to be a regular there :/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 02:56 PM
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I think it mostly comes from fertility. Women who care about having kids have a very real wall to contend with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:29 PM
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I'm single & looking for marriage. Aside from physical attraction, I'm looking for someone who shares my values & life goals. This means a devout Evangelical who, compared to the society around me, is hyperconservative in theology, politics, & life goals. If I'd have grown up in a more conservative area, or if I'd have attended bigger churches, had more progressive views, or been more open to dating someone which much more progressive views than myself when I was younger, I'd probably be married…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:26 PM
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Do you mean maintained his friendships, or maintained his community?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:27 AM
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How can a man in that position mitigate that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:55 PM
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>Someone at 30 who has never had a relationship will unequivocally be very frustrating to the other person within a relationship. They just haven’t practiced being in a partnership, sharing, considering others, anticipating others, etc. Why would that be the case if they were raised right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:40 AM
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Autistic people aren't necessarily emotionally high maintenance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 04:17 PM
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All women I've been on a date with from a dating app have rejected my offer for a second date except for one who was down for another date but whom I rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:59 PM
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It's mostly because of my upbringing. I've met high-functioning autists who are in relationships or are married; they're either more normal in worldview than me, or simply got lucky (usually at a young age).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:38 PM
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I wouldn't say that high-functioning autism/Asperger's "will very very likely result in being single forever". There are plenty of such guys in relationships. I'm on the spectrum & I get a normal amount of attention from women; I'm single because none of the women who wanted me so far met my incredibly niche religious & political standards. If I was a bit less picky I'd likely already be married, or at least have one or more long-term relationships under my belt. High-functioning autism is like …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 03:24 PM
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I can't speak for other men, but in my case I have sexual needs which my religion forbids me from meeting outside of marriage. On top of that, I feel an intense need to have children more than almost anything in life. I already have fulfilling bonds with friends & family (albeit not to the level I would ideally like), but these are no substitute for having sex or for making a family of my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:51 PM
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A significant portion of men who struggle with dating *are* Andrew Tate fans & (depending on how you define the term) misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:00 PM
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To a large extent, poor people working low wages are conservatives, & liberals look down on them as uneducated & low-class.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 08:58 PM
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I think that I tend to be a doormat as an inherent personality trait, due to getting bullied & being lonely as a child, or a combination of the 2. I like to think that I've gotten used to not being a doormat around women, though I still struggle with flirting & am very anxious when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 04:01 PM
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I don't lack opinions, but I struggle with teasing/flirting/relaxing/being fun/being playful. I also have lots of anxiety around asking women out on dates & around actually going to dates. The few times I've managed to get dates, I've been too nervous to kiss her or even to hold her hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:58 PM
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I'm trying to be more attractive, but there's only so much I can do. I'm trying to be more aggressive & disagreeable, & to go for what I want. I'm legitimately diagnosed with NVLD, which harms my ability to read body language or to read the room similarly to Asperger's or high-functioning Autism. I'm devoutly religious & against sex outside of marriage, & I'm only interested in women who are the same, so I'm not sure how I sexualize things without scaring them away. I already work out, though I …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:55 PM
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I'm not quite sure. It's something people have said to me when giving me dating advice, & in terms of personality I tend to be passive & to lack confidence. I like to think that I'm good at respectfully disagreeing. I'm not good at gently mocking people. Generally speaking, I'm slow & awkward when it comes to social interactions. How can have an abundance mentality when there is objectively not an abundance of women who meet my standards in my area?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:51 PM
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I've thought about it, but rn. I don't have an ability to make a decent living except here. I'm also not sure that things would be much better for me if I return because young, educated people in the big city there are often quite liberal/Westernized.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 03:06 PM
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Yes, I think that's an important factor in my dating failures. Although I'm white, I'm a child of immigrants & have failed to integrate into the culture around me in terms of values (particularly the subculture of young, educated, middle-class people in the area of a big city). I'm devoutly religious, which is particularly unusual for for a young, educated, middle class person near a big city in the West, & which reduces my options to almost nothing. On top of that, I've held onto my parents' va…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:34 AM
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I think that I'm too nice with women. How can I improve, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 06:24 AM
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I would say that it's owed in that it's the polite thing to do (as long as he's been polite & respectful, of course), though on a personal level I've been rejected that way (& in other ways) by women so much that I've become used to it. I tend to blame myself for not being inherently attractive enough or for not trying hard enough, rather than her, though I do my best to move on & to try to find another woman to talk to or something else to do ASAP.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 04:57 PM
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She's a nice Christian girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 12:02 AM
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What does the 🙈 emoji mean from a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 09:33 PM
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What if he wasn't diagnosed, but you suspected that he had such a condition?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 04:40 AM
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Question for women who are attracted to men: would you date a man with Asperger's/high-functioning Autism or something similar? If so, what conditions would he have to meet?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 09:03 PM
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Should I try to be friendly with her like nothing happened, apologize for making things awkward, or withdraw from all but the most necessary interaction from her for the next little bit?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 09:03 PM
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Update: the cutie from my Bible study has stopped responding to my messages :'( At this point it's pretty obvious that she doesn't want to date me. I still want to stay on good terms with her, though. We're probably going to run into each other in person at Bible study soon & I don't want to make things weird for her. What do I do now?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 08:32 PM
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She looks hot in both TBH
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:34 AM
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I probably won't see her in person for another week, & flirting/game is hard to pull off over DMs (I don't have her phone number). Our online convos go OK. She's friendly & jokes along with me, but never really flirts or initiates.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 06:43 AM
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Sure!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 02:44 AM
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I've known her for slightly more than a month. We've had 2 actual conversations in person & have chatted a bit online as well. I've been rejected tons, I'm kinda desensitized to it 😭 I'm not very good at flirting, nor at picking up hints.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 01:03 AM
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Did you act in an obviously flirty way with him, or did you just like you would with a friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 12:29 AM
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Question for men married to or in relationships with women: how much interaction did you have with your wife or girlfriend (as the case me be) before you asked her out on your first date, & what signs of interest did she show during those interactions?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 12:22 AM
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Yeah, that's why I want to ask her out ASAP!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 12:12 AM
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"He who finds a wife finds a good thing and obtains favor from the Lord." - Proverbs 18:22
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 12:11 AM
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Not cynical!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 10:17 PM
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Reposted from yesterday's thread because I only posted it a couple of hours ago, just before today's thread opened: I can't go to Bible study this week due to being sick, but there's a hottie I really want to talk to who recently started attending :'( We've chatted a little bit on Insta but I don't have her phone # yet. We haven't talked much in person, & I want to flirt/build rapport a little bit more in person before actually asking her on a date, but at this rate I'm concerned that someone el…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 10:03 PM
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Nooo
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 07:29 PM
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I can't go to Bible study this week due to being sick, but there's a hottie I really want to talk to who recently started attending :'( We've chatted a little bit on Insta but I don't have her phone # yet. We haven't talked much in person, & I want to flirt/build rapport a little bit more in person before actually asking her on a date, but at this rate I'm concerned that someone else will beat me to it :/ What do I do?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 07:18 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 11:43 PM
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Question for women attracted to men who don't ask men out but rather wait for them to ask you out: do you do anything to show your interest in a guy? If so, what (e.g. intense eye contact, touching his arm, hinting at a date without outright saying so, &c.)?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 01:48 AM
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Question for women who are attracted to men: when you're communicating by text message, DM, or some other text based medium with a guy that you're interested in romantically, do you write in a significantly different way than you would with a guy who you aren't interested in romantically? If so, what do you do in particular? Longer messages? More emojis? More effort to keep the conversation going?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 11:23 PM
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I'd choose B. It differs very little from my actual life. If he's a virgin for religious reasons like myself, then he still has a chance (though if I'm still alone at 30 I'd take serious action, such as paying for Christian Mingle, or moving to an area which is more conservative or which has more options).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:03 AM
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Just because someone close to their 30s hasn't had a formal romantic relationship doesn't mean that they don't know how to effectively communicate, make effort, or compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:00 PM
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I think that there is hardly any overlap.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 04:16 PM
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I'd feel bad, it'd change how I view her, & I'd appreciate getting information upfront like this. Sure, I'd believe her. No, I wouldn't want to go on a date with her. In general, I'm happy to pay on the first date, though it's a nice gesture if she offers to split. I'm happy to pay for dates, though the exact statement OP wrote would be disqualifying for me because the reference to "chance of us hooking up" implies that the woman does hookups, & because I don't think that it's reasonable to expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:45 AM
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How exactly do you treat a guy that you want to potentially date?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 11:27 PM
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Ok. I've already traded a few compliments with the girl I'm eyeing at the moment, so I guess we're off to a good start.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 07:43 PM
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OK. I imagine that behaviour is subdued within a social circle? I don't pick women up at bars &c. (I'm devoutly religious & looking for a wife). I meet women either on dating apps or by being part of the same (church-centered) social group.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 07:38 PM
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I don't think I really know how to flirt. I'm diagnosed with NVLD, similar to Asperger's/autism. I'm naturally slow on my feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 07:30 PM
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Do you ask women out at all? If so, what signs do they have to show you before you do so?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 06:25 PM
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Q4M: Do you you usually ask out women on dates who are friendly with you but not overtly flirty? If so, how often do these women say yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 06:17 PM
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I thought that most communists in your part of the world (eastern Europe) are predominantly old, rural/small town people without college or uni degrees who are socially conservative & Russian or pro-Russian?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 11:20 PM
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It's undeniably true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:58 PM
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Religious/conservative women generally prefer or even demand a man who's a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:06 AM
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What's the difference between a man who's a "momma's boy" in a bad way vs a man who has a healthy relationship with his mom?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:42 AM
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What does it mean when a woman asks a man his age?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 04:02 AM
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OP said that "Compatibility Was the Biggest Factor", specifying that these "high-value" couples "share similar personalities, values, and long-term goals". A woman who has a similar personality, values, & long-term goals to me believes that the man should be the head of the household, enthusiastically wants 2+ kids ASAP, is genuinely looking forward to being a mom, is willing to sacrifice her career & other ambitions for our family's sake, &, unless she adopted her conservative beliefs later in …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:51 AM
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How soon should I disclose my diagnosis?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 09:58 PM
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What about Europeans who are from countries that never had empires?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 08:03 AM
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How can a man with autism or a similar condition avoid being seen as creepy by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:59 AM
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I'm diagnosed with NVLD (similar to autism). What exactly are some of those choosing signals?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:57 AM
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OK, but I still want to know how the religious minority there does things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 11:19 PM
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It's an emotional need.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 11:18 PM
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One woman is enough for me 😂 My future wife & I will figure it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 11:17 PM
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Can you expand on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 11:12 PM
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Subjugation isn't necessarily a bad thing, though. You subjugate yourself to the government every time you stop at a red light, for instance. (That being said, I agree with your overall point).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 11:09 PM
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Why shouldn't they know that early?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 06:22 AM
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Like I said, I had chances with women but they didn't meet my standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 06:21 AM
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I want a woman whom I find physically attractive & who shares my values. How much detail do you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 05:40 AM
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A
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 09:07 PM
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How exactly did it happen? How soon did you ask her to meet one on one?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 09:06 PM
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Like I said, I had plenty of chances, but they were with women who didn't meet my standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 09:05 PM
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Why should I hide no experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 10:30 PM
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Men who have successfully gotten relationships with women from your social circles: how soon did you ask them out, & how well did you know them before asking them out? Did you get to know them as friends in the group first? Hang out with them one on one casually a lot before having an official date? Communicate a lot by phone, internet, &c. before meeting up one on one? Quickly ask them out on an official date before knowing them well?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 10:28 PM
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Why would I need to hide it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 10:24 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 10:23 PM
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Q4all: Is it better to have lots of failed relationships with incompatible people, or to have no relationships at all? For context, I'm a 27 year old man, & I've never so much as had a second date, let alone a relationship. I've had numerous opportunities which I've turned down because those women didn't meet my standards, & most of the women I've managed to get dates with turned me down for a second date (I myself turned down a girl for a second date because I'd decided by that point that she d…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 10:02 PM
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What if he waits until you're already in a relationship/have been dating for months before asking about body count?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 01:17 AM
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As in asking her out for coffee (or something like that?)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 03:34 AM
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I met a new girl through my social circle. It looks like I'll run into her about once a week (she started attending the same Bible study as me.) How long should I wait before asking her out?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:46 PM
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I can't speak for other men. On dating apps, I myself am quite clear about being socio-politically conservative (usually I select "moderate" or "centrist" but explain in my bio that I'm centrist on economic issues but conservative on social issues), Christian, & wanting kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:42 PM
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I agree that women who fornicate with you are lame.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 07:15 AM
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IIRC you're devoutly religious & live in the Bible Belt. Younger-generation dating woes seem to be most pronounced among secular people in big cities located in other parts of the Western world (particularly in the non-Bible-Belt US, & in the developed parts of East Asia).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 06:57 PM
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Would you privatize roads, electricity, sanitation, &c.?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 02:33 AM
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This right here should be the bare minimum TBH.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:27 AM
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Technically, it's possible to wear long, wool skirts + thick tights. That's what women did in the past & what some very religious women do today.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:24 AM
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A truly chaste person doesn't have sex outside of marriage at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:18 AM
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-As you said, good cook & in shape are obvious -Devoutly Christian in the same way I am (many of the following points are directly related to or at least correlated with this point) -Similar political beliefs to me (so hard-right compared to society around us) -Wants a big family, wants to be a SAHM -Virgin (unless she was raped, I obviously won't hold that against her) -Like to be treated like a lady BUT not greedy or materialistic -no hard drugs, no psychedelics, never gets drunk -Absolutely n…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:02 AM
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I literally quoted you verbatim.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:17 PM
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They literally do have to live up to their values to be devout. That's what the word means! Lots of people just vote for Trump because they think Republican policies are less bad than Democrat policies on the federal level, & many more people aren't American at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:22 AM
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No mainstream interpretation of any major religion teaches that men can pervert women or children as they please.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:16 AM
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I don't think that patriarchal conservative and religious communities as a whole are generally more lenient on males then females when it comes to sexual rule breaking. Women losing their virginity before marriage or cheating on their husbands may tend to be taken more seriously than men doing so, but at the same time men having sex with other men tends to be taken more seriously than women having sex with women. In Puritan New England, for instance, a woman who fooled around before marriage was…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 12:52 AM
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There are many different interpretations of "Conservative values". Judaism, Buddhism, Christianity, & numerous other religions are *not* more lenient on men fucking around; the mainstream, traditional interpretations of these religions forbid sex outside of marriage to men just as strictly as they do for women (OK, some interpretations of Judaism allow concubinage, but this is heavily debated by Jewish scholars, is not & never seems to have been customary for religious Jews, & in any traditional…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 11:45 PM
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Is it possible for an adult autistic man with no rizz to somehow learn or develop rizz?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 05:08 AM
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I'm absolutely not OK with that. I only want her deriving sexual pleasure from *me*, & only once we're married.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 06:43 AM
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The comment you're responding to specified *unchecked immigration*. Your personal anecdote doesn't justify unchecked immigration. My parents are immigrants & I believe that current immigration rates are way too high, & many other immigrants & children of immigrants I know agree with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 06:04 AM
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IIRC Hungary's child tax benefits are all either specifically for the mother or can be shared by the mother & her husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 06:01 AM
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Hungary's TFR has gone up, just not to replacement level.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:57 AM
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There's no denying that there was more stigma around it in the past than there is today. It's also verifiably true that it was banned at some times & some places, & that safe, effective, & legal birth control wasn't available like it is today.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:27 PM
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All of Western Europe during the middle ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:08 AM
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Nothing in your comment contradicts anything in my comment. There was massive variation across Europe & North America over the centuries. In some times & places, all sex outside of marriage was strictly illegal, whereas in others prostitution was explicitly legal & regulated. How clear these laws were & how strictly enforced they were in various situations also varied massively. Even in times & places where prostitution was legal, it was always, without exception, officially decried as sinful. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 07:53 PM
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Technically, most couples could afford having one bread winner, but that bread winner would have to work 60+ hours a week (or a particularly stressful or particularly dangerous job) for them to have a middle-class lifestyle, & even then they'd probably have a noticeably lower material standard of living than their peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 11:33 PM
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Even then, men where expected to do the heaviest outdoor labour, while women were expected to do all or almost all of the cooking, cleaning, & childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 11:29 PM
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The majority of the population in pretty much all agricultural societies for several millennia.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 11:28 PM
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Housework is labour. Before the industrial revolution, it really was rare in the West for married women with kids to work for money outside the home. On farms, there tended to be fairly strict gendered division of labour. Wealth-making agriculture production was mostly men's work, whereas virtually all cooking, cleaning, & childcare was done by women. Even when much of the population moved to factory labour, the majority of married women with kids continued to stay at home. In Canada & the US, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 11:22 PM
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Primary historical sources, as well as academic papers. To a certain extent it's common knowledge; everyone who knows anything about the West before the 1960s knows that sex outside of marriage was heavily stigmatized, & that safe, effective, & legal birth control of the sort we have today hardly existed. Just about every US state outlawed fornication, adultery, & sodomy until such laws slowly started getting repealed in the 1960s, & they generally banned or heavily restricted contraception as w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 11:07 PM
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Men saw such women as sluts, too. The authorities who punished women for sexual misbehaviour were almost all men (at least in the West). This arrangement ensured that the price of sex was kept at it's true (high) value.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 06:23 PM
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OP isn't asking to literally move backwards in time, just to change dating norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 06:14 PM
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Yes, amen! That's exactly what us devoutly religious people have been advocating for & practicing for millennia.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 06:14 PM
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Marriage has probably existed for as long as homo sapiens have. Almost all societies, including isolated tribes of hunter-gatherers, practice marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 06:12 PM
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There was a more than 1000 year period in the West when sex outside of marriage was heavily stigmatized, sometimes even outlawed. Don't forget that safe, effective, & legal birth control hardly existed in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 06:07 PM
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70 or more years ago, it was less socially stigmatized much more than nowadays, physically much riskier due to much less option for effective contraception, & downright illegal everywhere in America (IIRC).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 06:05 PM
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Yes, absolutely! I've already lived according to this standard for my entire life, as have most of my friends & family. I don't think it's necessary to go back to 19th century style courtship, or even to only go on dates with one person at a time. When it was a universal social norm to wait until marriage, options weren't narrow because, well, it was a universal social norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 06:03 PM
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That's why I specifically noted that it's not a need for a minority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 07:23 AM
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Yes, but there's still a religious minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 07:22 AM
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It's an emotional need for everyone (except for the minority of people truly called to a celibacy), but at the same time sex should be limited to marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:35 AM
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Some women desperately want sex, but abstain before marriage for religious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:33 AM
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As a man, I believe that most people need sex to be fully happy (it may not technically be a need like food or water, but for most people it's an emotional need), & I'd also prefer a woman who's a virgin (or at least hasn't had much sex before). I don't see anything hypocritical with my stance, because I believe that sex should be limited to marriage. I believe that both men & women generally need sex, while both men & women should abstain from sex outside of marriage. There's absolutely no logi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:27 AM
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According to many people on the Internet, many or most relationships in Western Europe start as hookups, & the formal trappings of American-style dating, such as the "relationship talk", don't exist. If this is the case, then how do religious people who don't believe in sex outside of marriage date in Western Europe?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:04 AM
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Hatred for lots of things is routinely routed in misandry. Whether or not some people have weird reasons for hating something has almost no relevance to how good or bad that thing actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 06:01 AM
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As opposed to the loudest supporters of porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:56 AM
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"Sex negative" is such a ridiculous way of describing our beliefs. We appreciate & enjoy sex in a normal, healthy, & meaningful way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:55 AM
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I never said that was easy, but there's absolutely no denying that it was legally possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 01:07 AM
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Every state except for South Carolina has allowed women to initiate divorce without having to take up residency in a different state since the 19th century AFAIK.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 12:58 AM
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I know that it wasn't always easy, but it was definitely possible. The comment I responded to stated in "America at least, it’s only since about the 1960s and onward that women could independently own property and initiate divorce proceedings", which is flat out wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:44 PM
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True, I should've said "most of the non-slave population".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 04:46 PM
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It's simply a traditional middle-class life updated by modern technology. In the past a housewife was helped by a maid; nowadays she receives roughly the same amount of help from washing machines, vacuum cleaners, being able to buy ready-made clothes, &c. What's consistent about traditional roles throughout history in sedentary societies is that the man primarily focuses on making money & the woman primarily focuses on housework. In agrarian societies, both the man & women did back-breaking labo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 04:39 PM
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American women have been able to initiate divorce since long before the 1960s. They just couldn't divorce *for no reason*, & neither could men. In the past it was legally harder for women to divorce than men, but by the mid-20th century in America women could divorce on exactly the same fault-based grounds as men AFAIK (1925 here in Canada).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 04:28 PM
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By that standard, most of the population in 18th century colonial America was already middle class because most of them were farmers who owned their own land (as opposed to England where most farmers were landless).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 04:24 PM
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I hope that we all agree that it's a good thing for young children to go to elementary school instead of working full-time. The fact is that plenty of women are happy to be a housewife even if their husband can't or won't hire a maid or cleaner. Obviously, modern technology significantly lowers the domestic workload, so I'm not sure that such women necessarily do more work than a middle class housewife of 200 years ago. Many women also like to have a part time job on top housewife, especially at…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 04:19 PM
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None (never been in a relationship).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:05 AM
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Very few people in general went to college by today's standards. By the 1950s, women could study just like men. My point is that not every woman who disagrees with you has "bad pussy management". Yeah, lack of money/access to money & social pressure were some factors that played a role in keeping women in abusive marriages, but I doubt that lack of cars in & of itself was a factor. Women without cars flee abusive homes all the time. (Men who buy cars for their wives & generally provide for their…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 09:20 AM
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Women absolutely went to college before the Sexual Revolution & before modern birth control. Lots of women oppose the Sexual Revolution because they think it was bad for society as a whole. It's ridiculous to think that every single one of them had "bad pussy management". Modern society effectively requires women to have sex on extramarital "relationships". It wasn't the norm for middle-class women in the 1950s in Western countries to be constantly pregnant (most had 2-4 kids IIRC). In Canada & …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 08:18 AM
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I don't want to literally travel back in time, though I'd happily undo the sexual revolution. I think that sex outside of marriage is immoral & that abortion should be outlawed. My options in the 1950s here in Canada would actually have been greater than they are today since the progressivism of 2024 Canada is the main factor limiting my options.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 07:53 AM
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Your comment did specify /men/. Biological males can't reproduce. Ukraine is in a state of emergency due to being invaded, & their law forbids election during a state of emergency. They're also highly corrupt (including the electoral system & the military itself) & poor by Western standards. Israel has conscripted women since it's foundation as a modern state, in fact they're probably the biggest & most notable conscriptor of women. Israeli society also strongly pushes women to reproduce to make…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 12:18 AM
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None, & that's entirely besides the point. The obligation is for *fertile, married* people, whereas Jesus never married. Under the strict moral code which Jesus, in his own words "came not to abolish, but to fulfill", a life of celibacy is the only valid alternative to marriage, & marriage must contain openness to life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 11:55 PM
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Jesus upheld a traditional moral code which includes the obligation to reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 07:22 PM
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Majority of women where? Liberal-democracies don't generally have conscription, & countries with conscription are often dictatorships. Only a minority of women live in countries in which both a) male-only conscription is actively enforced, & b) ordinary women people can participate in regular, competitive, free, & fair elections.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 06:59 PM
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Women have no obligation to pair up, though married couples are obligated to reproduce unless they're prevented from doing so for medical reasons. Both men & women, generally speaking, have a biological imperative to marry & have kids. Only a minority of people are *truly* meant to stay celibate forever, or are unable to have kids due to them or their spouse having fertility issues. Keeping the birth rate up is also an important reason. I'd say that fertile married couples have an obligation to …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 06:43 PM
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Yeah, I guess I just need to be a patient until I meet a girl who's blatantly into me & also checks all my boxes. (I've reduced my standards over time; I think that I was too picky in the past, though now my standards are more reasonable).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 07:01 PM
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Interesting, so she was a friend of a friend? And you kept in touch by phone or my social media for months before asking her out?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:59 PM
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I'll keep trying 💪
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:57 PM
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So far, I've always gotten shot down when I tried making plans for just the two of us in such a context (that, or the girl who seemed to be into me didn't meet my standards). I'm strictly religious, so getting buzzed at a party & making out as a party likely isn't happening with me. Thank you for your perspective, though. I'll keep trying!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:56 PM
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Kavanaugh & JD Vance are married, & roughly half of all American women support them & their policies. How are they "women hating incels"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:47 PM
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Yes, I have an extensive checklist. I used to be even stricter but I've had to reduce my list, or at least downgrade many deal breakers to mere preferences, because I've consistently failed to get so much as a second date over years of trying. (One girl asked me for a second date, but I refused because I'd decided by the end of our first date that she didn't meet my standards). I'm a young, educated person near Toronto (pretty much as progressive an environment as it gets), & yet I'm a devout Ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:43 PM
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Question for men who successfully social-circle-maxxed (got a relationship or marriage with a woman from your social circle): How did you do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:10 PM
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Well, I'm devoutly religious. I'm mostly likely to meet a compatible girl at church or through church-related social circles. It would be weird for a girl to come onto a guy in such a setting quite as strongly as she would if she were looking for a stranger to hookup with at a bar. I suppose things like her going out of her way to be around me, or to talk to me, or her making slightly more eye contact than normal could be a sign in any setting (but then again, she could be just be getting used t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:53 AM
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Question for men who are successful with women: How differently do women who want to date you act from women who don't want to date you but like you as a friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 04:11 AM
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It's not dramatically different among devoutly religious people. I see couples who met in church marry young all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 03:52 PM
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It's definitely not the sole reason, though it absolutely does perpetuate men's dating struggles. Obviously, most men can't attain that standard, & most women can't get commitment from such a man. Most women in their 20s are capable of being skinny or slim thick, though of course most will be average or below average looking once you adjust for age & weight. Of course it's absurd to want a woman who doesn't have a high n count but will quickly put out. In my case, I have much bigger dating probl…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 04:42 AM
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A huge portion if the married people I know met at church, including my parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:29 AM
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Asking someone out you know from church or volunteering is perfectly normal. Religious people tend to find their spouse this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:29 AM
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I'm a religious guy & I go for sweet, modest women. Many of the other religious guys I know do, to. Most such women I know are married, which in most cases means that at least one religious guy went for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:11 AM
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It's sex, as well as children. My religion forbids sex outside of marriage, & depending on how strictly you interpret things either forbids or discourages masturbation, & those things can't satisfy me like a real marriage can anyways. My male friends can't satisfy my desire for sex with women, & they can't give me a family the way I want. Many women feel the same way I do. Even if they may not generally have as high sex drives as men, they still want a committed relationship which includes sex, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:43 AM
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Congrats!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 06:00 AM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:55 AM
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What if they're generally self-sufficient (they have their own place & own car, some money saved up, & no debt except for car payment, student loan or mortgage) but happen to be looking for a job at the exact moment you happen to meet them? Would you wait until they get their next job before asking them out?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:29 PM
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I'm struggling to understand how a lazy, dumb, & ambitionless person can be cultured.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:25 PM
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Cave people had to work hard to survive. People in hunter-gatherer societies who don't contribute in accordance with their age, gender, & physical ability are exiled or killed by the tribe. More likely than not, someone who's naturally lazy would work hard anyway if they were socialized in such an environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:20 PM
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You wouldn't date someone who's well educated, competent, & hard working, but currently looking for a job, under any circumstances? Would you break up with someone for losing their job? What about someone who can't work a normal job due to a disability, or becomes disabled to that extent after you start dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:17 PM
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It actually seems me be pretty common for low-status women to date losers who are good looking, sociable, or both. They get knocked up & then abandoned by such men all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:14 PM
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No. Being lazy, gluttonous, or ambitionless are all deal breakers for me. Being hooked on porn is a deal breaker unless perhaps she's actively trying to stop & undergoing some sort of treatment, therapy, or mentorship to help her in that. She'd need to quit completely within the next couple of years or whenever we get married, whichever comes first (though I'm unlikely to wait more than 2 years to marry someone). Messy room is a deal breaker depending on how bad it is. She doesn't need to have c…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:11 PM
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Does "borderline" theocratic mean that the alt-right can't be fully theocratic in the traditional sense, & does "abdication of American leadership" mean that they're limited to America?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 08:13 AM
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In what specific areas are the alt-right distinct form classical liberals or constitutional conservatives?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:06 AM
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Interesting. I'm more or less the opposite. I'm devoutly religious & very socially conservative when it comes to politics, but I live in a strongly liberal area of Canada. I missed out on the young conservative marriage & have been struggling since (the few attractive right-wing women in my area mostly seem to married already).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 10:49 PM
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Trad men generally put lots of importance on sex within marriage. They tend to believe that couples have a duty to give each other sex. Christian, Jewish, & Muslim trad men wait for marriage, but European & Middle Eastern pagan men in the past (at least the high status ones) additionally could have tons of casual sex before & even during marriage with no guilt or shame; those cultures/religions only required *women* to save themselves for marriage or to be sexually exclusive with their spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:35 AM
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It was the norm throughout history, but it involved near constant intense labour by todays standards before modern appliances were invented. Depending on the specific time & place, peasant wives in agricultural societies may have had side-hustles & may have participated to a limited extent in agricultural work (working in the garden while the man worked further out in the fields, or participating in the fields herself during the busiest parts of planting & harvesting), but their main job was to …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:15 AM
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I don't see significant questioning of those things on a societal level.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 09:06 PM
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It's interesting that few "educated" young people in big cities seem willing to question deliberate childlessness, modern notions of dating & sexuality, large scale government intervention in the economy, or a secular worldview🤔 (For the record, I'm in favour of socialism & secularism within certain constraints.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 07:20 PM
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I agree, though it's a good thing. Decreasing access to abortion is praiseworthy, not blameworthy. On Reddit & other largely left-wing spaces, the general pattern I've seen is that hate is directed towards men who aren't liberal minded & towards conservative women, *not* towards liberal-minded men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:16 PM
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Public views on abortion are broadly similar across America & Europe, i.e. people generally agree that that abortion should be easily available in the first trimester but heavily restricted later on. This centrist view is more or less reflected in abortion laws in most of Europe, where most countries allow abortion but with stricter restrictions than Roe v Wade would've allowed, while for whatever reason (maybe the 2-party system?) America is divided between strongly pro-abortion & anti-abortion…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:35 AM
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What you describe as "hyper traditionalist" is still the norm in much of the former Eastern Bloc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:25 AM
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All of it? I don't think most people from the Donbass see their region as the best place on Earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:23 AM
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Are you really sure that Europe as a whole is significantly more lax with sex than America? I doubt that the average person from rural Poland would see Los Angeles as sexually puritanical.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:21 AM
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I'd be baffled if "Europe" includes former communist countries. I'm an ethnically Hungarian man, & I doubt that South Korean men are most sexist than us.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:14 AM
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Red pillers can eat my shit then lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 11:14 PM
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It's indisputably far-left by historic or global standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 08:45 PM
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You arguably are. Many (most?) legal systems will lessen the penalty or even exempt you from punishment altogether if you were coerced to do something illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 08:44 PM
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The crucial difference is that pregnancy is naturally how we reproduce. It's quite literally how God/nature brings us into being, so comparing it to assault is absurd. Except for rape, she absolutely consents to it. My position treats all humans equally, born or not. Ending an ectopic pregnancy is just as moral as shooting a burglar. Both are valid self defence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 08:42 PM
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Consenting to sex naturally leads to pregnancy, & driving without a seat belt is both illegal (in many, probably most places) & objectively stupid (at least at high speed or on busy roads). It's absurd to compare these things to merely not pushing health measures forcefully or getting bullied. That being said, it's fair to say that people are responsible for getting far or being assholes (in most cases). Elective abortion, unless necessary to save the mom's life, is devoid of humanity & reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 08:37 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 08:30 PM
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Correlation does not equal causation. Those states had bad maternal mortality figures under Roe v Wade as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 04:08 PM
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Most pregnancies don't threaten the life of the mother. Do you seriously not understand the moral difference between deliberately wounding someone & the natural process of being born?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:19 PM
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If they're coerced then they're technically innocent. Regardless, it's sometimes permissible to take even innocent life, such as ending an ectopic pregnancy, or causing collateral damage while following the international laws of war in a just war.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:16 PM
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It's effectively like a home invader. It's possible for someone to be coerced into committing burglary; it's still justifiable for someone to slay them in self defence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:04 PM
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They shouldn't become doctors if they're so cowardly, then. All miscarriages are legal in all states, regardless of trimester.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:02 PM
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It isn't murder to do what's necessary to save a life. Shooting a home invader isn't murder, & neither is ending an ectopic pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:46 PM
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Cowardly or evil doctors do that contrary to the law. Those who don't commit intentional homicide have nothing to fear. Lawmakers don't have total control over every individual doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:43 PM
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The hospitals & doctors responsible should be punished for (deliberately?) misinterpreting the law. Whatever the solution is, legally sanctioning unjustified homicide against children isn't it. It seems that the situation is massively blown out of proportion by the left. Regardless of what left-wing propaganda says, miscarriages are legally *not* considered to be intentional abortion in any state.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:40 PM
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It's an undisputable fact that miscarriages are *not* legally considered intentional abortion in any state. Intentional homicide is not healthcare. There are countless potential causes for a rise in maternal deaths. Correlation doesn't equal causation, & anti-abortion legislators aren't responsible for cowardly, stupid, or unscrupulous doctors illegally (deliberately?) misinterpreting the law. Edit: I have trouble finding people with compatible values. None of the women I could've had a relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:35 PM
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Pretty much everyone agrees that murder is wrong but killing in self defence is OK. By your logic, this means that pretty much no one believes in murder, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:30 PM
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It's far left when it comes to social issues (abortion, DEI, LGBT, &c.).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:13 PM
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No state bans miscarriages, only *intentional* abortion. Stop spreading misinformation. My mom has had 4 miscarriages, & she's the one who raised me to be anti-abortion because she, like the people who write anti-abortion laws, understands the difference between intentional homicide & a medical tragedy outside of your control.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:59 PM
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Actually, I would think that you invited your arm to be broken if you drove without a seat belt (I just wouldn't say it to your face because I wouldn't want to be rude). Pregnancy is the natural consequence of PIV sex. It's quite literally why sex exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:28 PM
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The vast majority of us anti-abortion people (including myself) support abortion when necessary to save the woman's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:27 PM
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I'm unlikely to find someone with broadly the same political views as me in my area. People who I align with politically tend to be male, old, married, lack formal higher education, or live in different areas than me, so I'm unlikely to hit it off with a woman who shares my politics unless I meet her far from home. I'm open to dating someone who's on the other side but not too extreme, though I'm skeptical.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:25 PM
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I'm not OK with it, but I'm even less OK with any other option.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 11:41 PM
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No, I just vote for whoever I think has better policy. Politics is generally a dirty game of choosing the lesser evil in which one can't afford to be too scrupulous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 11:14 PM
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What are your arguments from the Bible or other relevant historical or religious texts (such as academic works about 1st century Judaism) that Jesus would've supported or done any of those things? Give specific citations, please. I'm not against immigration & I never claimed that Jesus was against immigration, either. Many of the people I know who are against illegal immigration & excess immigration are immigrants or the children of immigrants themselves, including my parents, many of my friends…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 09:51 PM
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Women should lower their financial/social status standards when it comes to marrying & having kids, while ceasing to have sex or children outside of marriage altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:52 PM
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I can't speak for all right-wing voters. I myself believe that it's against the Bible for the government to tolerate abortion (unless necessary to save the woman's life), euthanasia or assisted suicide of innocent people, or for the government to support pretty much any sort of modern progressivism (LGBT ideology, critical race theory, &c.) In terms of my personal beliefs that fall under areas we Christians are free to develop our own views (based on reason, tradition, & experience), I believe t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:48 PM
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There's more to life than money. I see it as in my interests for people like Trump to win even if it negatively impacts me financially.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:39 PM
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Do you think that all Trump voters are misogynist & racist, even those who are women or non-white?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:36 PM
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He doesn't want to take away basic human rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:30 PM
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Many (most?) of us are going to keep voting for the right no matter what the consequences are, because we're motivated by deeply held principles.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:17 AM
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I'm a (not rich but middle-class) straight, white, Christian, right-wing male. How is it against my interests to vote for the major right-wing candidate?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:15 AM
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Marrying someone you share a basic worldview with isn't making everything about politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:41 PM
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Far-right compared to the society around me, but centrist by global/non-Western standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:40 PM
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How am I supposed to date if eligible women who share my political beliefs hardly exist in my area?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 08:54 AM
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It's indisputable that he imposed tariffs, & it's indisputable that he cut income taxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:25 AM
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As I already stated, he indisputably delivered on his trade & tax promises in his first term. This time it seems that he'll have even more support from Congress. Where are you getting your idea of what I want from? I'm not American so I don't particularly care what he does as long as it benefits my country.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:16 AM
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He was prevented from implementing his full immigration agenda by Congress, which are now entirely under firm Republican control, so things might go differently this time. Trump did indeed implement tariffs in his previous term, many of which were continued by the Biden admin. Trump cut income taxes in his previous term.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:42 AM
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People who have a similar level of schooling as me tend to have vastly different values & goals from me. In my experience, it's people with less schooling who tend to think similarly to me. My drive & ambition almost entirely revolve around a) religion, & 2) my future family. A woman who has the same sort of drive & ambition is going to refuse to have sex outside of marriage, seek to get married young, hope to have a big family, believe that the man should be the head of the household, & see sch…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 09:19 PM
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I know many women who stay or stayed at home with 3, 4, or more kids in happy marriages. The men in these marriages don't or didn't all have high paying professional jobs. Personally I think it's fine for women to have advanced schooling & careers, but between the extremely limited choices given by OP, I think the "trad" option is less bad. I'm on my way (God willing) to a high paying professional job & I don't care how much formal schooling a woman has. Maybe by the time I'm fully established i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 08:09 PM
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Going by the definitions provided by the OP, I'd rather raise my daughters to be traditional women. I want them to have the opportunity for a good marriage, which is pretty much impossible for a modern woman (going by the OP's definition). I don't want them to die childless & alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 07:33 PM
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Because it aligns with their religion, they love their husband, they want to be a housewife, they want a big family, or a combination of the above. I could just as easily ask why anyone would want to be a modern woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 07:23 PM
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*Some Redpill men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 07:13 PM
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Given these 2 options, I'd rather be a "trad wife" than a "modern woman", though I think that your definitions of both terms are overly strict.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:15 PM
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I actually do want a submissive woman, because my faith demands it. I'd love to have a 50s tradwife TBH. I isn't necessary for her to be sexually submissive all the time, though of course I do think that regular sex is an important part of a healthy marriage. Before marriage she must clearly articulate that she believes that the man should be in charge when it comes to marriage. Practically, this means that I'll have ultimate decision making power when it comes to big decisions that affect both …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:18 AM
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I'm 26. I'm willing to date 18-36, though I prefer 20-25. Hopefully I find someone soon & become bonded with her to the point that I'll always find her attractive, or that I'll always be attracted to women close to me in age. I prefer youth first & foremost because of fertility, not aesthetics. I am in panic mode right now, desperately trying to marry a woman & give her lots of babies ASAP. I've been trying & failing to find a wife since I was 21 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:11 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 05:53 PM
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I grew up in what most on this subreddit would probably consider a "tradcon" household, & my parents (especially my mom) warned me from a young age about greedy or otherwise immoral women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 05:52 PM
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Tradcons generally warn about bad women, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:27 AM
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Those two categories together include almost every man who's ever lived.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:25 AM
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I don't hate any individual person (or at least I try not to lol), but I hate slutty behaviour & the kind of worldview that accepts sluttiness. I'm disgusted by sluts. I'm OK having them as friends, but probably not close friends, & I wouldn't date them (this is all assuming that I know that they're a slut). I *might* date a former slut, though probably not. Going by what they've told me & how they've behaved around me, my male friends generally see things the same way I do, i.e. they hate slutt…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 04:05 PM
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That depends on how you define "traditional woman". I'm a religious virgin & I want a woman who shares my values. My faith forbids sex outside of marriage, & demands that the man be the head of the household. Many would consider this "traditional", but I tend to avoid the label because I don't want to be associated with the online "traditional" crowd which I see at too extreme (even though I'm far-right myself by the standards of society around me!)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 05:58 AM
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Sex is (potentially) a product of a good relationship. The ultimately successful premarital romantic "relationship" leads to marriage, which necessarily includes sex (with few exceptions). A couple who naturally love & respect each other will naturally *want* to make each other cum. Marriage is a prerequisite for sex, though sex is an essential part of a marriage (unless it's medically impossible, or perhaps if they're both elderly & both OK with not having it).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:17 AM
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I guess that's debatable, just like the Caucasus, Turkey, & the Levant.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:40 AM
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I recently met a girl on a dating app. I quickly took the conversation to phone & set up a date a little over a week from now. How often should should I call or text her until the date?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:37 AM
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No. To me, whiteness is nothing more than being of European descent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 01:20 AM
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She's objectively average looking (though of course I think she's hot) & we've already chatted a bit. How can one be sure that she's on Onlyfans, & isn't an actual religious, conservative girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:44 PM
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I never said that she's like a fantasy. Her profile looks the same as that of other genuinely religious girls I've gone on dates with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:31 PM
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I don't know exactly what she means by "redpilled", though. It could be more of a political thing, since her profile also says that she's conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:28 PM
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Why should I assume that she, specifically, is on Onlyfans?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:27 PM
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Interesting 🤔 Why exactly do you think she wants to bait me into Onlyfans?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:21 PM
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How so? Please expand on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:17 PM
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Sounds like we're made for each other lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:17 PM
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Are you sure? This is on a Christian dating app. She describes herself as conservative & Baptist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:16 PM
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Of course!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:13 PM
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It might be more political than dating-related on her end, though, since her profile also says that she's conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:12 PM
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I matched with a woman on a dating app who said that she's redpilled on her profile. Thoughts?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:10 PM
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Not Protestants (except perhaps migrant workers in the Gulf States, though I haven't seen solid numbers for those & I think they're mostly male).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:00 PM
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That's not what I said at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:48 PM
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Of course. I know that they're a minority, & among that minority almost none of them are Protestant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:46 PM
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Going only by the definitions your provided, with all else being equal, I'd go with "Middle East". I think that formal education is overrated, & the more formal education a woman has, the less likely she is to have compatible values with me. I also think that the modern "women's rights" movement has gone too far. Women who follow 4th wave progressivism or are sexually progressive are vastly incompatible with me. I'd ideally prefer a women who's 25 or younger. I'm religious, most Westerners would…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 01:00 AM
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I'm not sure what your point is. My point was that housewives *should* get deference & praise, which they do indeed get if they have good people in their lives. Women are not the only ones making the sacrifices. I never said that men "deserve all the deference and praise". In many cases, men work far harder for money if they have or want to have a family than they otherwise would.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:32 PM
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It's good for the kids to have a stay at home mom, regardless of how the man makes money. Making sacrifices for your family is praise & deference worthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:29 AM
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Religious women also tend to want kids too, though, so that doesn't seem to be part of the trend OP is talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 01:38 AM
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I have lots of male acquaintances, but no best friends. Many of these guys currently have girlfriends or wives; virtually all of them have had a girlfriend in the past even if they're currently single. I have female acquaintances, but no best friends. I have no siblings. I get along well with my cousins & other family members, though I have little real-life interaction with those who live on different continents from mine, which is most of them. I have no trouble making acquaintances, though I c…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:34 AM
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Absolutely, in fact it's probably the main reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:53 AM
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That's useless for me because I'm deeply religious, so both myself & the women I'm compatible with don't have sex outside of marriage, get drunk, or do illicit drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 10:40 PM
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My parents forced me to be social & do sports at a young age, & yet at 26, I've never had a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 10:24 PM
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I went dancing the other night. I spent most of it fretting about what a bad dancer I am, & yet 2 cute girls asked to dance with me 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:51 PM
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I was thinking of dating down in terms of education or social class, which doesn't necessarily correspond to a big gap in income.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:49 PM
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Yes, but I don't see women who work hard at their job when they're single but would like to be a SAHM some day as less ambitious then women who want a career even with kids, or who don't want kids at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:49 PM
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When I say that I don't care about a woman's career, income, or status, I mean that those things don't affect my attraction to her, those things don't play a big role in my decision to date or marry her, & that I'd prefer for her to stay at home with the kids. That being said, of course I value ambition, diligence, & intelligence, & am exited for/will brag to others about her accomplishments that are important to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:48 PM
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Is that even the case if you're willing to date down?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:44 PM
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It's possible for someone to have drive, ambition, & goals, to be extremely intelligent, to work, diligently, or to overcome a lot of adversity without being career-oriented.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:37 PM
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IDK why so many want it. Maybe it's more popular than it otherwise would be because of porn. I'd be very happy to have an LTR with a woman who says that she abhors the idea, in fact I'd prefer it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:37 PM
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What if you're against sex outside of marriage for religious reasons? Sexualizing conversations doesn't sound like a good strategy to found a deeply religious wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 07:00 AM
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I have NVLD (similar to autism). IDK if I'm capable of flirting like normal people :/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 06:56 AM
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They're both evil regardless of what the state says.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 02:45 PM
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It's evil because it's committing homicide without a valid reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 02:44 PM
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There are plenty of unjust laws. Race-based chattel slavery was legal not too long ago in much of the world, for instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 02:42 PM
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IDK, though I'm inclined to believe that they go to heaven. Abortion (except when necessary to save life) is unspeakably evil regardless of that, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:54 AM
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What makes you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:52 AM
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I disagree on all of that except for makeup. Women shouldn't be expected to wear makeup; they don't need it to look good or feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:48 AM
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I'm very likely going to have to marry someone with vastly different politics from me. Young, attractive, single women who share my views on politics don't exist in meaningful numbers near me. When I was younger, I refused to date women with vastly different politics, but a lifetime of loneliness has worn me down to the point that I've accepted my fate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:43 AM
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I, for one, just don't like people having sex outside of marriage. Single motherhood is *always* preferable to abortion, however. The woman in this case is well within her rights to divorce him & raise the child alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:37 AM
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The primary reason I was so successful dating, was because I had numerous, vast, social circles. Serious question: how did you do this exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:53 AM
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It gives you an edge among guys who are religious or otherwise very conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 06:46 PM
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Nothing hypocritical about it. "You can't support legislating morality under any circumstances because some countries you don't like legislate morality" is a deranged take.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:48 AM
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To be fair, Ukrainian men are largely not punished for domestic violence regardless of what the law says. (This is a problem across the former Soviet world in general; I don't mean to pick on Ukraine specifically).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:46 AM
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Are you forgetting about all the civilians killed &/or raped?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:42 AM
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I'm autistic. Being a chill & normal dude isn't really an option for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 06:08 AM
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I never said that that it's wrong to want it, just that I personally struggle to relate to people who want to be financially independent simply for it's own sake. I want to do it primarily for the specific purpose of providing for my family. Yes, I would view it as my family's money.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 02:29 AM
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I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 06:55 PM
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I looked through your post history. Not gonna lie, if you were Christian & weren't pro LGBT, I'd send you a message to potentially start a chaste courtship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 06:40 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:08 PM
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Where did you too meet?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 03:21 AM
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No, I don't think people should have sex outside of marriage at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 03:11 PM
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They definitely don't represent the majority of Poles or Russians (the minority of young, educated, middle-or-upper-class, liberal, Westernized people in a handful of big cities are just that, a minority.) Russian men in particular are known for believing in traditional gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 09:33 PM
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I think it's more bad than good overall. I don't mind people being forced to stay together as long as there isn't abuse/cheating going on. Society's overall well-being is more important than individual happiness in such cases. It's foolish to get married on a whim, & those who do so shouldn't be surprised when it ends horribly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:40 PM
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What little Redpill writing I've read on the topic actually encouraged men to make women cum.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:21 PM
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Sorry to hear that. Your husband clearly lacked morals if he didn't care about your pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:20 PM
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*Western Europeans, maybe, but Eastern Europeans tend to be far *less* progressive or egalitarian in that area than Americans.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:15 PM
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Maybe try asexual guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:05 PM
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Generally speaking, guys who are so religious that they don't have sex outside of marriage aren't going to marry a non-religious woman unless they're desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:04 PM
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What would "unconditional love" even mean in this context? I think that in a marriage, it's fair to expect your spouse to love you, respect you, stay faithful to you, & make every reasonable effort to satisfy you sexually, & that if they don't uphold their end of the bargain, you have the right to complain or even, in extreme circumstances, to leave them. Aside from that, spouses should love each other no matter what (even if they let themselves go, get horrific injuries, lose their job, &c.) I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:02 PM
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I know plenty of happy couples who started dating when the man was broke (my mom supported my dad financially through school when they were newlyweds, for instance, though now he's the breadwinner). It's entirely possible to have a good life later on after tough financial times early in the marriage (think about doctors or lawyers who are broke students in their 20s but are wealthy when they retire), in fact that seems to be very common among the people I know. That being said, people are entitl…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:38 AM
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Men can choose to wait, too!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:13 AM
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*it works on some women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:04 AM
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It's very wrong to assume that people who don't believe in sex outside of marriage don't want sex. For the most part, they have to exercise enormous self control to resist their desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:03 AM
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Nothing in life is guaranteed. That doesn't change the fact that promiscuity is a bad idea. Women who want a good husband are more likely to get that if they don't sleep sleep around.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:01 AM
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My parents have been happily married for more than 30 years. Interestingly, my mom supported my dad financially at the beginning, though my dad's been the main breadwinner for most of their marriage. They're as happy as ever. I know many other such couples (in many cases, the financial dependency only lasts as long as they have young kids, though sometimes it lasts longer, such as in my parents' case.) It helps that, in my circles, people see their money as belonging to their family. As a man I …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:43 PM
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Are you seriously denying the existence of happy couples?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:38 PM
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For me it's a bit of both. I'm what many PPDers would consider "traditional" & I strive to be pure, but I'm also insecure about being compared to other men. My insecurity tends to make hate myself, not women, though I like to think that I'm not as insecure as I used to be (I'm certainly trying on that front).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:42 PM
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I know plenty of women who are #winning.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:32 PM
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Staying loyal through difficult circumstances (unless your spouse cheats on or otherwise abuses you) is part of being a good person, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:31 PM
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From my perspective as a conservative man, it's virtuous to be content with your lot in life. If course I want to give my wife the best life possible, but it's not the end of the world if we're not rich. It's very fair for a woman who doesn't work for money to expect her husband to pay all the bills, though she must be content with the amount of money he makes. I'd ideally prefer a virgin for both reasons. I don't believe in sex outside of marriage, & I also want to be her best. Religion is the …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:26 PM
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It may not technically be force in a legal sense, though for all intents purposes it amounts to force. "Enlightened", "liberated" modern people aren't as free as they think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:16 PM
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Unironically yes, as long as we're talking about before marriage. Both men & women benefit from good sex, genuine love, & deep companionship. Except for a minority of psychologically unusual people, all of these things are emotional needs in a marriage. The "need" for sex is no less valuable or justifiable than the "need" for love or companionship. On the contrary, sex should be limited to marriage because it's so valuable & justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:53 PM
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Women leaving their wives for a slimmer, more beautiful, younger and healthier woman has, in Western countries, been normalized because feminists pushed for no-fault divorce to be legalized & normalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:42 PM
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Frankly, that's how non-marital relationships should work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:39 PM
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Some guys (like myself) want or wanted a serious relationship even before 25, though I know that that's rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:36 PM
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Maybe most men are like that, but not all. In the religious circles I'm in, men are taught that it's their duty to please their wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:32 PM
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Plowing & seeding was mostly done by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:41 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:41 PM
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Sounds like you may be less open-minded than you think you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:45 AM
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Many women are happy being financially dependent, including my own mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:47 AM
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In societies where subsistence agriculture was the norm, the heaviest agricultural work was, as a rule, done by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:37 AM
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For much of the White American middle class (Redditors tend to be part of that group), life really was a lot better better 30+ years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:36 AM
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It's not so bad if you have relatives nearby or if you're part of a religious community of some sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:33 AM
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I've never encountered such a view among right wingers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:32 AM
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Would you let a men spend more than $15 if you knew that he isn't willing to have sex before marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:11 AM
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Unfathomably based!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:07 AM
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Waiting for marriage makes things so much better for everyone TBH.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:57 AM
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Plenty of women I know (including my own mom) chose to be dependent on a man & have had a wonderful lives of being provided for as part of a mutually fulfilling relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:55 AM
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Interesting. I'm a guy & my parents taught me to always pay for dates, or at least for first dates. Splitting the bill is always something I've associated with progressivism & feminism. OTOH they've always been skeptical of the amount of money North Americans spend on restaurants. They themselves never had expensive restaurant dates when they were getting to know each other. They got married in 1980s Romania, where, according to them, only the Communist party elite had the means to frequent fanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:55 AM
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That's true, but by "reasonable" I didn't mean morally valid, I meant likely to find someone who's willing to accept your terms. A former slut who becomes religious is likely going to be turned down by many religious guys (which is why she'll likely* have to keep her standards low), though those religious guys who do accept her will of course want to wait till marriage. Secular women, OTOH, can't reasonably* expect to find a man willing to wait until marriage. *of course there are isolated excep…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:41 PM
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"I had lots of casual sex, but no want to wait till marriage" is reasonable if you genuinely became religious & keep your standards low in other areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:17 PM
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Maybe some people are naturally assholes, & for them, being relaxed takes lots of energy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:04 PM
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I live in a HCOL area in a wealthy country (near Toronto), & many 20-something guys in relationships I know don't have their own house or even their own apartment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:07 PM
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IDK, I accept a great deal of responsibility for my situation & yet I still feel jaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:31 PM
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PPD is not a good representation of normal people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:05 PM
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Introverts aren't necessarily shy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:03 PM
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Where I live, a 28 year old who makes little above minimum wage wouldn't have his own apartment unless his parents helped him buy it or he somehow made lots of money when he was younger but is now at a lower paying job.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:01 PM
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We met in person but we haven't seen each other in a while so I reached out to her online.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:19 PM
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I think that the first message I sent her was too long & too intense, & that I've generally come across as too boring/serious in my interactions with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:15 PM
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Is it possible to salvage a potential relationship with a woman after coming off too strong? If so, how?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:35 AM
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Serious question: is he neurodivergent?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:18 AM
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I don't think so; I tend to be the one asking her lots of questions & basically doing all the work to keep the conversation going.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:18 PM
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Is it fair to assume that a woman isn't into me if she hardly ever asks me questions?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 07:47 PM
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I don't believe in sex outside of marriage, so inviting her to my place is no good (unless it's to meet my parents).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:34 AM
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Should I send a woman I like pictures of my cat?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:26 AM
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She seems upper-middle class to me. She's in touch with both of her parents, though I don't know if they're still together. IDK how much she drinks or whether or not she's into drugs. She seems like the intellectual type. She became more interested in Christianity recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:51 PM
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The girl I'm thinking of seems well off but doesn't come across as a brat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:46 PM
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The girl I'm thinking of is Ukrainian.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:54 AM
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If an attractive, single young woman travels a lot & goes to nightclubs (at least occasionally with friends), is it fair to assume that she's likely had casual sex or likely has a high n-count?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 06:13 AM
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Mary, as long as she's willing to have sex at least once a week (except for medical reasons or because of a huge catastrophe), & I might not be willing to send $50 every month to her family. None of the other women meet my minimum standards for a wife. I may be willing to go on a few dates with such a woman if I'm highly attracted to her, though we wouldn't work out long term unless she changes massively.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 06:59 AM
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I met her at a Bible study, but she's stopped going there (at least for now).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:11 PM
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What would actual disinterest look like, exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 08:32 PM
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I've not going to directly tell her that I want to sleep with her right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 08:31 PM
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I'm chatting with a girl I like, but I'm pretty sure she doesn't like me back. Should I ask her out or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:33 PM
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I'm chatting with a girl I like, but I'm pretty sure she doesn't like me back. Should I ask her out or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:33 PM
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I'm chatting with a girl I like, but I'm pretty sure she doesn't like me back. Should I ask her out or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:33 PM
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It's already been a few hours. I'm asking more about the pace of the conversation towards an actual date.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:15 AM
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A girl I'm acquaintances with but haven't seen in a while just responded to my DM. Should I ask her out quickly or rather take things slow with casual conversation? (Keep in mind that I have NVLD, which impairs social functioning similarly to autism).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:10 AM
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I'm thinking of guys you knew & weren't interested in but developed feelings for later.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 05:41 PM
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As as mid-20s guy currently struggling to get a GF, I wish I hadn't been so picky in university.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 02:26 PM
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Q4W: Have you ever changed your mind about a guy you initially weren't interested in?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 02:24 PM
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I haven't completely given up hope yet, but I'm trying to prepare myself to move on if necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:45 AM
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I don't want nudes, but I'll drop her if she doesn't write back.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:40 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:09 PM
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Update: after more than 24 hours, the girl I messaged has yet to respond. Looks like I'll have to cut my losses :'(
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:02 PM
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I live in Canada. By Canadian standards, I'm a right-wing religious extremist. If I were normal, I'd likely have a normal dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 05:04 AM
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This is how bad it is for picky guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 05:00 AM
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Not dates who meet my standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:47 AM
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I've gotten 5 dates total over almost 3 years on the apps, though to be fair I'm incredibly picky considering my circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 03:35 AM
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I don't want to share too much personal info here. I asked her how she's doing & alluded to times we've talked in the past & to things we talked about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:01 PM
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I'm happy to be a provider in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:59 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:56 PM
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I'm trying to ask her out, I just think it'd be better to have a little back & forth before actually asking her out, as opposed to blurting it out in my opening message. If she says no, I see nothing wrong with staying acquaintances (we'll likely run into each other anyway), though of course I wouldn't be close friends with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:54 PM
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I'm happy to date a broke woman! I wouldn't date a woman who's lazy, but it's wrong to assume that someone lacks character just because they've had some unfortunate life circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:49 PM
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I honestly don't know if I'll be successful. I think she most likely just wants to be friends, though it's worth a shot regardless. I hope she doesn't find me annoying! I'm not breaking any of my religious principles. If anything, I'm performing a holy act by doing my part to build up the institution of marriage & to be fruitful & multiply.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:44 PM
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Instagram.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:55 PM
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Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:37 AM
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No, but that would've been funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:36 AM
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I already know her. I'm starting to get obsessed with her; I've tried talking to other girls but I can't focus because I keep thinking about this one 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:36 AM
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I just slid into a girl's DMs. Ask me anything!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:58 AM
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Generally speaking, I'd feel emasculated going 50/50. In my experience, that means that she doesn't really want me, though for the most part women are happy to let me pay. I prefer to pay, & I don't think I'd be OK with going 50/50 or letting her pay unless we've known each other for a long time & she makes much more money than me at that moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 03:35 AM
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Is every relationship in which the wife acknowledges the leadership of the husband tradcon to you, or do you only count those marriages in which the wife stays at home?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 09:53 PM
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Do you think it's possible for a tradcon relationship to be healthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:42 AM
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Faith in Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:31 AM
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By "reach out" do you mean send a text message, DM, &c.?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:52 AM
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Almost nothing could make me stop approaching women. I'm too young to give up, & there's hardly anything I want more in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 04:47 PM
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For me, finding a mate still means the survival of my people, so it's very much life and death for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:43 PM
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It's literally not possible for me to manufacture my social life in such a way that there is no shortage of (suitable) women (short of, perhaps, moving to a different country, which I'm hesitant to do because then there'll be no one to care for my parents in their old age) because my strict political & religious views make me incompatible with the vast majority of women around me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:42 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:38 PM
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In strict, religious societies that valued fertility, men were virtually guaranteed wives. This is still the case among groups such as the Amish.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:36 PM
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Bruh I'm literally autistic. I don't think I have full mental capacity to read the room like normal people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:35 PM
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I already do that 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:19 PM
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I'm what many would consider a mediocre man, & I've declined to pursue women who I considered hot simply because of their political or religious views.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 03:39 AM
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Did you "spend more time together" by asking her to hang out in some way without using the word "date"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:04 AM
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In the past I wasn't open to a woman if she lived in a different city, didn't devoutly follow the exact same form of Christianity as myself, wasn't a virgin, was a liberal/progressive, didn't want a big family, or didn't want to be a housewife. Now, at 26 years old, I've never been on a second date, never kissed a girl, & never even held hands with a girl romantically. I've said no to numerous chances with women because they minutely failed just one point on my long list of standards. I now thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:42 PM
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I've already done that, & I don't think it's reasonable to go any lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:11 AM
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What if I can't find a virgin woman who meets my other standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 06:45 AM
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26M. I live with my parents in a house we co-own. I don't really have close friends. I've never had a second date, & have never kissed or even held hands with a woman in a romantic way. I have NVLD, which impairs my social skills in roughly the same way that high-functioning autism does (I may actually be autistic as well, though I've yet to be formally diagnosed for that like I've been with NVLD). I'm an introvert. I don't truly know how physically attractive I am to women; I guess I'd rate mys…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:18 PM
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I wouldn't date or marry a woman I'm not physically attracted to. I wouldn't marry a woman who isn't a theologically conservative Protestant, doesn't agree that the man should be the head of the household, doesn't want kids, or has political views I consider to be extreme (Nazi, Communist, thinks abortion should be legal, &c.). I'm open to dating a woman who doesn't meet these standards but is willing to change, though we wouldn't last if she doesn't end up changing her views. For example, I mig…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:00 PM
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I know men similar to me who've succeeded, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:25 PM
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I disagree with view. Sexual activity is sexual activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:31 PM
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I have no problem dating autist women, I just think that I need to be open to non-autist women, too, because I have such severely limited options.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:22 PM
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I know autist men who are married to non-obese women tho 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:21 PM
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I think I'm going to be awkward & weird forever lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:17 PM
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Incorrect. I know autistic guys married to women who aren't obese, hookers, or mail order brides.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:17 PM
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I'm not giving up yet! Many autist men manage to get relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:15 PM
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I'm already severely limited by my political & religious views. The most rational course of action for me is to shoot my shot with any woman I may think I have a shot with & may think I'm compatible with, even if she's neurotypical or conventionally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:12 PM
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I've met several openly autistic men who had a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:10 PM
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Plenty of autist men have both relationships & sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:52 PM
2

I don't have time to meditate an hour every day, though I do already aim for & usually achieve half an hour of meditation + half an hour of reading spiritual literature most days.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:49 PM
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I'm not ready to give up yet :'( Having a wife & kids is almost the only thing I care about in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:47 PM
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Even in so called "traditional" societies, we're encouraged to be monks or celibate scientists/scholars That's heavily variable; some cultures forbid or discourage celibacy. In strict Jewish, Muslim, & Anabaptist communities, virtually everyone is married off at a young age, autistic or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:46 PM
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Thank you, this sounds like it could be very helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:42 PM
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Your overall point is true & fair, but it's blatantly wrong to claim that *most* people are not equipped to deal with a high-functioning autist. Yes, even level 1, high-functioning people like Elon can be very hard to deal with for a neurotypical, though that's not the case for every individual, just like neurotypicals can be very hard to deal with, though not all of them are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:36 PM
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Unfortunately, it's all theoretical for now, though I hope to get married & have kids soon!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:54 PM
1

I already do that, but I go to a small church, & church-hopping just to find a girl seems wrong to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:12 AM
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I can't because we aren't married (& even if we were married, I'm not sure I'd be OK with anal sex).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:11 AM
2

Yes, I know. How do I get a wife in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:25 AM
5

Can you describe in what ways your personality is more masculine than most men around you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:10 PM
1

I'd rather not settle for a gold digger.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:01 PM
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nobody on this sub is interested in that I am! (To be fair I'm Canadian, not American, but Canada's even more progressive than America.)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:46 PM
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What am I supposed to do if I refuse to have sex outside of marriage because I'm devoutly religious?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:43 PM
1

I don't usually disclose my condition unless I'm specifically asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:42 PM
2

Are you muscular or do you just act more masculine than the average guy? If so, what are specific things you do that the average guy doesn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:39 PM
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I think a relationship with someone who has the same personality & mannerisms as me would look harmonious & I think it would make me feel great, because I suppose it would be easier for us to relate to each other than if our personalities were very different. I think such a relationship would work. That being said, I would not accept a relationship where the two of us are held to perfectly identical standards because, to a certain extent, I believe in gender roles. Our ability to relate to each …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:44 PM
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It actually would be the hottest sex of my life up to that point, because she'd be my first.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:24 PM
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Right now I'd go with neither, but if I was older, & unable to accept a lifetime of childlessness, loneliness, & virginity, I'd marry #2 just so that I don't die a childless, lonely, virgin. That being said, I hope that, no matter how desperate the situation, I wouldn't settle for #2, but rather come to terms with dying a childless, lonely, virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:18 PM
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People *are* inherently evil, though it's nevertheless possible to find a suitable spouse, & most people should do so (or at least try).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:48 AM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:53 AM
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My life raises lots of questions from a relationship perspective outside of that as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:49 AM
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PPDers are hardly representative of the majority of women, though apparently you've edited your comment to "a good amount of women", which is fair & true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:48 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:46 AM
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I'm not sure it's quite accurate to say that I strive for a very traditional relationship. My ideal fantasy of a marriage is traditional, but in reality I'm willing to compromise. 4-7 kids is my dream, though I'm potentially willing to negotiate that down to 2 kids. talk to your partner, learn their quirks, don't stop romancing them. Sounds good!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:46 AM
2

Do the majority of women really like to have sex on the first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:02 AM
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At 26 years old, I've never been in a relationship. What would be your advice for me when (or if) I ever manage to get my first relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:01 AM
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You may be too online if you think every major religion teaches men to be cruel to their girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:57 AM
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What about a dude who has been consistently on dating apps since 2021 with nothing to show for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:56 AM
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I've encountered "you should date them" a lot in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 10:28 PM
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I know, & I think that most modern people are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 10:23 PM
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Is he an introvert? Does he have autism, NVLD, &c.? Does he have religious or political views that are dramatically different from the young women around him? I'm not nearly as attractive as Jake, though I think these are important factors in my own lack of success.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 08:40 PM
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Service to others is how society functions. In marriage specifically, the man has authority over the woman, though only for him to use in service to his family. Depending on exactly how you define your terms, this doesn't necessarily contradict an "equal partnership" at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 08:27 PM
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I don't know if that's true; "date single moms" is very common advice directed towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 08:24 PM
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What do you mean exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 08:23 PM
2

Most women can find a good relationship without ever making the first move.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 01:58 PM
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Is it hurtful & condescending to a tell a man that he should be open to dating single moms?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 01:56 PM
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A lifetime of service is just...life, unless you're extremely selfish or perhaps a total shut-in.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 01:54 PM
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It isn't necessary to smile constantly. There's nothing wrong with having a neutral expression most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 01:52 PM
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I got to a non-denominational church, though I'd describe both myself & my church as charismatic in theology (fairly similar to Calvary Chapel, or the Vineyard).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 02:22 PM
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Men paying is still largely the norm in Eastern Europe/the Balkans. This is slowly beginning to change among young, educated people in the big cities, but they're still not nearly on the same level as Western Europe. I imagine other parts of the world to be even more conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:38 PM
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I'm not asexual, but I am a virgin, & I'm against sex outside of marriage for religious reasons. I insist on paying for dates, because that's the kind of conservative guy I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:31 PM
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Not just America, but pretty much the entire world outside of Western Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:21 PM
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I agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 04:45 AM
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All arenas? 🤔 Would it really be reasonable for me to expect to be able to find a non-fat 20-something autistic introverted Hungarian born-again Christian right-wing virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 04:43 AM
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Having a reliable contraception method is important too, because if you're worried about pregnancy, again, it can be very distracting and taking away from the pleasure. I would've upvoted if not for this sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:53 AM
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I know plenty of secure, masculine guys who follow hierarchical marriage structures, because that's what the Bible commands.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 06:32 AM
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I know how strange the dynamic sounds to modern people, but I believe in it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 06:31 AM
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Considering the vast number of marriages, it's pretty much an indisputable fact that *some* women fit that description.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:30 PM
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Some of those women really are virgins when they marry, & others go on to be good wives despite their past indiscretions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:06 PM
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It should be both.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:02 PM
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A woman like that almost certainly wouldn't marry you unless you converted to the exact same faith as her. Her family & social circle of religious nutjobs would likely shun her for so much as dating an outsider, let alone marrying him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 08:57 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:57 AM
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Yes, but aligning on important topics is a very big indicator of potential compatibility. Why is it a red flag?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 04:13 AM
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Why throw away an opportunity with a woman I'm highly compatible with?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:55 AM
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What if we agree on those big topics? Should I run then?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:51 AM
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How soon is too soon to bring up heavy topics such as politics or kids? How should I respond if she herself brings up such topics early on?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:47 AM
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I have a first date scheduled with a girl I'm talking to from an app, but it's more than a week away because we live in different cities & have things going on. How do I keep things interesting over the phone until we meet?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 03:45 AM
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I drink moderately, IDK if I qualify as "super strict religious".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:50 PM
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Sounds too reasonable for PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:48 PM
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If an evening first date works best with my schedule, is it better to have it at a bar/pub or at a nice restaurant?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 01:51 PM
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Yes, I'd consider it a good thing, although I want someone who believes in traditional gender roles (at least to a certain extent), & ideally someone who's right-wing as well. A woman who's significantly smarter than me is unlikely to share these values (at least if she's born & raised in the West.)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:31 AM
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Yes & yes to both questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:13 AM
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Should I hurry up & get my heart broken, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:48 AM
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No?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:47 AM
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My fantasy is to impregnate one woman several times & be good parents to our babies together 🥺
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:47 AM
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I'm a naturally trusting, naïve man who had a comfortable upbringing in a safe neighbourhood. I'm diagnosed with NVLD (more or less like Asperger's/high-functioning autism). I've never been in a relationship, but I want one. How do I do this without getting taken advantage of, or winding up with a woman who doesn't truly respect me/isn't truly attracted to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:42 AM
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How "trad" are your actual beliefs & life goals?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:37 AM
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Is it weird for a 26 year old single man to be baby crazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 03:37 AM
1

Weed bar? I take it Vietnam's cannabis ban goes unenforced?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 09:21 PM
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Is it wrong to bring a woman flowers on a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:37 PM
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Funnily enough, France is generally far more nationalist & hostile to immigrants than America. Trump would be considered pro-immigrant & pro-multiculturalism over there. French cops are renowned for their brutality; they aren't held to account the way American cops are. France was one of the last European countries to ban parents from spanking their children. French culture has a strong undercurrent of authoritarianism, IMHO far more so than America.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 08:36 PM
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Splitting the bill is only the norm in Western Europe AFAIK.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 08:32 PM
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Was splitting the bill common even back then?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 08:31 PM
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French people are generally far more nationalist/xenophobic than Americans.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 08:30 PM
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Not sure what the law was back then, but today that would be statutory rape in France (the standard age of consent is 15, but that's bumped up to 18 if the older party is in a position of authority over the minor).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 08:28 PM
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In secular culture, I think Canada is already at about the same level as you describe, though I wouldn't really know because I prefer to date within my right-wing, Christian bubble. I prefer to pay for dates. If a woman insists on splitting or herself paying early in the relationship, she's almost certainly either not interested in me or not compatible with me. I actually agree with café / beer / having a walk being preferred to fancy dinner for a first date. I don't see that as indicative of a …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 08:21 PM
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You still haven't answered my question BTW. "How many past sexual partners should I expect a 20 year old woman to have?" Also, how do you reconcile applying strict gender roles to men while balking at the idea of women being asked about their past? Ideally, everyone should be a virgin before marriage. The woman who slept with 10 men behaved in a more loose way & demonstrated greater lack of character than the other woman; all other things being equal, the woman who only had sex with one man is m…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 12:57 AM
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Of course I want to know. I prefer virgins. Actual intercourse is more drastic than lustful thoughts, & it's one of those things that makes a woman generally less attractive in the eyes of men, just like lack of height, money, or social skills makes a man generally less attractive in the eyes of women. (As an aside, I probably would want to know if she was heavily involved in pornography/lustful fantasies in the past.) You yourself advocate for women having very strict, traditional expectations …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 11:01 PM
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That doesn't answer my question. What exactly is wrong with knowing this info about someone you're in a relationship with & are about to marry?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 10:14 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 07:20 AM
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How many past sexual partners should I expect a 20 year old woman to have?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 06:17 AM
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Cheating, divorce, or emotional abuse are *not* likely if you vet properly & are yourself marriage material.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 01:53 PM
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Yes. I largely seek relationships because, in the long run, that's the only way I can get guilt-free, regular sex. Most of what I do to gain or maintain a relationship is with the end-goal of regular sex in mind. I don't think this question is very applicable to me because I don't believe in sex outside of marriage for religious reasons. I don't just want sex because of sexual pleasure itself; I'm also intensely baby crazy. Of course, I want the romance of a relationship as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 05:50 AM
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Ah, that's good.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 05:03 PM
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Adultery was a crime in many past cultures, often even punishable by death. In Western Europe & other Catholic areas, divorce was generally banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 04:29 AM
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Yes. I wish I were already married.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 12:02 AM
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I wish I knew what it was like to make a woman orgasm :'(
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:51 PM
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How exactly did you express interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:14 AM
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my husband was just friendly at first and then got flirty, when we already had a bit of connection. Did he get flirty around the time you two had your first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:13 AM
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That's all well & good, but It's possible to like those things without demanding them to an unreasonable extent. If it's not an obstacle for you, then why have you complained about how hard it is to find a man willing to wait until marriage? Perhaps there are men you know in your church or other social circles who meet the standards of your religion but aren't quite wealthy enough to take you on expensive restaurant dates every week? Why not just lower your economic standards a little bit & have…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:10 AM
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How does that apply to men & women who, for religious reasons, refuse to have sex outside of marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:08 PM
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I'm gonna be honest with you all. I don't understand what "emotional labour" is. Can someone provide concrete examples of "emotional labour" in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:39 AM
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I'm a man diagnosed with NVLD (similar to high-functioning autism or Asperger's). I'm also an introvert. I've so far been rejected by every woman I've ever asked out from social circles (the only dates I've gotten have all been from dating apps). How can I distinguish a woman being interested in me vs just being nice?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:38 PM
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The "best possible guy she can find now" is no older than his early 30s. Many such men are capable of providing for a family, though perhaps not to the luxurious level of a girl who demands weekly dates at expensive restaurants + frequent expensive gifts & trips. Just because a man isn't rich when a woman starts dating him doesn't mean that she'll never be able to be a housewife. Earlier on this sub, you complained that it was effectively impossible to find a man willing to wait until marriage. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 07:15 PM
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The "best possible guy that she can find now" likely doesn't have much money yet, unless she's from an upper-class background herself. Marriage-minded guys often don't want to constantly go on expensive dates even if they can afford it, & many marriage-minded women don't even want such extravagant dating. "Paying rent?" The best possible guy isn't moving in with a woman before they're married, & a woman who wants the best possible guy isn't moving in with a guy before they're married. A woman wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:33 PM
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It's rare among the general public, but common among people who grew up in a religious home & have stayed devoutly religious for their entire life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 03:10 AM
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It's possible to be high libido or have high interest in sex without having very high standards or very high expectations when it comes to sex or other things in life, or without being into or even being aware of "kink" culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:37 AM
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just act normal I have NVLD (basically autism)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:29 AM
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A woman who saved herself for marriage is likely to be the sort of person who's pretty satisifed with okay sex or okay anything in less, & likely doesn't feel the need to explore kinks like a more experienced woman would.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:18 AM
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The kind of women I'm into don't generally want to date a man who recreationally uses cocaine or weed. (Some women who barely meet my standards might be OK with dating a recreational weed user, but I'd try to fix such a woman).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:11 AM
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Question for those who have dated or had relationships both in North America & in the Eastern Bloc: What were the biggest differences you noticed, & what dating advice would you give to someone who's dated in one of those areas but not the other? For reference I was born in & have lived my whole life in Canada but my parents are from "central Europe", where most of my extended family still lives. I noticed that mutual attraction seems to occur more often between me & women of "central European" …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 04:44 AM
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The type of chick I'd like to find can be defined in two very different ways; a woman who meets my bare minimum standards, or my hypothetically perfect dream woman. My absolute minimum standards are that I must be attracted to her, she must be an adult but not older than her early 30s (I'm not attracted to women outside of that range anyway), & that she must be a part of or interested in Evangelical Protestantism (Baptist, Pentecostal, non-denominational, &c.). My dream woman would meet all the …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 10:00 PM
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Serious answer: because God says so. It's also backed up by millennia of tradition.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:40 AM
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Those two things practically *are* my high standards, i.e. I want someone who shares my values.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:39 AM
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OK. I was referring to this: Man do start with high standards, but have to lower and lower until they meet someone who accepts him...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 09:01 PM
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In a wife's case, respect necessarily includes deference. The incredibly respectful marriages I see around me, including that of my own parents, are far superior than what I see around me in mainstream Western culture. If you knew me you'd probably say that I'm *too* respectful, especially to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 09:00 PM
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I'm devoutly religious & strongly right wing, despite living in an incredibly secular & progressive area. I think I'd rather die childless & alone than see my children raised into a worldview & lifestyle which I deeply despise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 08:56 PM
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What if I want a great relationship but have come to the conclusion that my standards I've held to for years are unreasonably high?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:27 PM
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I tried to just be myself. I'm 26 years old & I've never had a second date. On the 5 first dates I had, I couldn't even work up the courage to kiss her or hold her hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:26 PM
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I'm incredibly picky as a man & it's only left me increasingly lonely, bitter, & unfulfilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:22 PM
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That may be true about Western women in general, but many women who are devoutly religious or culturally non-Western strongly want marriage & children, & often thus have an accommodating attitude towards men who are part of their narrow religious or cultural circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:20 PM
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I really struggle & I have really high standards. In my experience, that's often, perhaps even usually, the case with guys who really struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:17 PM
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That may be generally true, but I, for one, don't see women who want fornication as options.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:15 PM
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That's what living in society is like. You constantly defer to the government unless you want to end up in prison. You constantly defer to your employer unless you want to be unemployed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:13 PM
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Just because a woman doesn't meet the unreasonably high standards I had when I started looking for someone, doesn't mean that I don't find her attractive, am repulsed by her, or don't have feelings for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:11 PM
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In my case, having incredibly high standards in my university years seems to be the reason I've never had a 2nd date at age 26.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:02 PM
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A wife should have a deferential attitude to her husband, & in particular should defer to his opinion when it comes to big decisions that effect their household as a whole, unless to do so would be sinful or otherwise blatantly unreasonable, (e.g. he wants to kill their children) the details of which are to be worked out on a case by case basis by the couple & their church elders. In practice, husbands seldom or never have to invoke such authority in healthy marriages, at least in Western cultur…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:42 PM
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Since when is smiling a clear IOI? I always thought smiling was just normal friendly behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:11 AM
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It's obviously true that some women sometimes reject "nice guys", so I'm not sure exactly what you mean by that. I'd proudly treat my girlfriend or wife like a princess, simp for her, support her, spoil her, treat her like a queen, & treat her amazingly, but only to a reasonable extent. I definitely wouldn't worship the ground she walks on. I'd make her a stay at home mom unless she strongly doesn't want that. I'd do my best to lead her to prosperity but I can't predict the future & there's a ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:51 AM
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Making someone a stay at home wife requires a shit ton of money that has to be stable your whole life. In North America at least, this is only true if you insist on living in a single-family detached home in a major metropolitan area in a HCOL part of the country, having a closet full of expensive clothes, going on overseas vacations every year, going to restaurants every week, &c. If you're not overly concerned with material things, nor with what people think, you don't really need "a shit ton …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:39 AM
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What makes you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:32 AM
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You seem to have a highly twisted idea of what a submissive wife should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:31 AM
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Fair enough. I more or less feel the same way about liberals.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:28 AM
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The man is the one screwing everyone over in that case.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 09:14 PM
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I'm a grown adult man, & I largely seem to be incapable of differentiating politeness from genuine interest and mutual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 08:38 PM
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Maybe that's true of most conservatives in your state/country, though there must be a least a few who accept your culture or are even part of your culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 08:32 PM
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I'm guessing you're American? Here in Canada, you'd be considered almost a Nazi simply for being pro-life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:27 PM
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In what ways exactly is moderate conservatism white supremacist & male supremacist?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:23 PM
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I prefer liberals because I'd have to abandon my values, deny my family and reject my culture to date a conservative How so? Conservatives belong to every culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:17 PM
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Do you really think that most regular conservatives believe in white supremacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:09 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:02 PM
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I'm looking for a certain person, although I'm less picky than I used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:40 PM
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I've tried that numerous times. So far, such women have always rejected me. Right now, there's exactly one woman in my social circle who I find attractive & who I think might say yes. I don't see her often & she isn't active on social media that I know of, but I plan on asking her for her number the next time I see her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:32 PM
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Yes!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:22 PM
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I'm already going on dates & getting rejected by overweight/average women. I'd rather be alone than settle for an obese woman, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:21 PM
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I'm jaded & and miserable, but I want to learn!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:20 PM
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In this sub & in other places, people often make the point that they learn from relationships. As a 26 year old who's never had a relationship, this makes me desperately want relationship experience. Should I get a relationship ASAP, or should I look to other sources to get the knowledge that people normally get from relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:00 AM
1

I prefer conservative women. Political orientation matters a lot to me in dating. Liberal beliefs themselves are unattractive to me, though I don't think that conservatives or liberal noticeably differ when it comes to physical attractiveness. I'm ethnically Hungarian, but I've lived my whole life in Canada, & my parents immigrated from Romania. By Canadian standards, I'm far-right, but by the standards of Hungary, Romania, & most of the rest of the world, I'm centrist/moderate. I can't imagine …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:36 AM
1

There very much is a wall when it comes to fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 03:04 AM
1

Much of that can be learned outside of romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:54 PM
1

A man who's never had a relationship has likely experienced tons of failure in the form of getting rejected by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 06:00 PM
1

Absolutely not. I'm not breaking up with my girlfriend unless I come to the conclusion that we're seriously incompatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 03:23 AM
1

No, or at least not yet. I refuse to give up this young, when my biggest earthly goal is to marry & have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 04:13 AM
2

True dat
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 12:58 AM
2

I can't speak for other worldviews, but in properly-interpreted Biblical Christianity, married women are seen as responsible for acting in a mature way, controlling their own actions, & working on their own problems. Using the limited, circumstantial authority of husbands to totally negate the personal responsibility of wives is a gross misinterpretation of the Bible.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 08:13 PM
0

Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:55 PM
0

False dichotomy. In a healthy marriage, the man is in charge, but what the woman wants matters to him. It's somewhat like a healthy country, where the state is respected but also cares what the public thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:54 PM
1

What exactly is a "tradcon"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:29 PM
-5

Women often benefit massively from settling down young with a good man, submitting to their husband, & not worshipping formal schooling. I can't speak for the Red Pill, but do you think that "tradcons" in general loathe women? Do "tradcon" women loathe themselves? Do "tradcon" men loathe their mothers who taught them to be socially conservative, or their sisters & daughters who share their views? Can you even define "tradcon"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:10 PM
1

Like the chance of a woman having been in multiple serious relationships and still being a virgin is virtually 0. It's common among good-looking, sociable women in their early 20s who happen to be devoutly religious.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:30 AM
5

I'm an introverted, nerdy, NVLD-diagnosed (more or less autistic), devoutly religious, right-wing virgin man. Do you really think I'm going to find a compatible wife at a bar or club?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:27 AM
1

You dropped this, king: 👑
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:25 AM
1

What was her relationship with her father like?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:23 AM
1

If it turns out that we're compatible & that we both want it, then I'm going to marry her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:20 AM
1

I'm guessing you live in America? Here in Canada, it's illegal for regular people to carry anything for self-defence. Even carrying a butter knife without a valid, non-self-defence-related reason could land you in jail. Possessing pepper spray is also banned under a separate law. AFAIK most of the world has laws similar to Canada.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:52 AM
1

Question for virgin women interested in men: What do you want in a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:44 AM
1

The man should be in charge, but he shouldn't be bossy. No can can deny that there are many such happy marriages. My point was that you were wrong to claim that marriages in which male authority is recognized are inherently unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 06:27 AM
1

How do you define "far-ish right"? How do you define "far-ish left"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 04:21 PM
2

In your experience, do History Majors tend to be right-wing or left-wing?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 04:25 AM
1

I'm naturally bad at banter. It doesn't come naturally to me at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 04:53 AM
1

I never said that I personally want to be in charge. I'm just convinced that it should be that way. I don't believe that wives should be "bossed around". It's a matter of fact that many happy marriages are traditional/hierarchical. I personally know multiple such married couples!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 01:52 AM
1

I want a willing partner. If you think a happy marriage is "slavery" then that's your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 09:19 PM
0

Nope :)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 01:22 PM
-7

It doesn't matter how much the world changes. Of course marriages are supposed to be partnerships...partnerships with the man in charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 07:13 AM
3

What's the difference between settling & having reasonable standards? If my standards are too high, how can I can lower my standards to a fair level without settling?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 03:28 AM
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Many women, even young women, want the man to be in charge, though to be fair such women generally don't want a house husband. I knew that they do more childcare, though I didn't know that it was 12 times more. Custody after divorce is a complicated subject, & varies massively from one jurisdiction to the next. In America & Canada (probably most of the West, though I haven't closely looked at the relevant statistics for other countries), divorce has slightly declined in recent years, though it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 03:26 AM
1

In my current circumstances, I'm hardly able to get dates with women who meet my standards. I've met numerous women who seemed into me, but I never made a move on them because they didn't meet my incredibly high standards at the time. One even asked me out; I said no. The few women I actually did shoot my shot with all rejected me. Since I've lowered my standards & gotten onto multiple dating apps, I've managed to get a few 1st dates. One of those women I decided not to go on a 2nd date with bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 02:48 AM
1

I'm actively looking for a wife. I'm better educated than most people. I recently finished my latest round of schooling & am actively looking for a job in my field. I regularly go to the gym. I go out of my way to socialize. Aside from going to church on Sunday, I'm involved with multiple Bible studies/regular Christian events. I don't currently have the money for therapy, & if I made enough money I'd probably be too busy with other things. I listen to what women say, though I tend to be skeptic…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 02:18 AM
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I agree (kinda). The man should be in charge even if she makes millions & he's a house husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 02:08 AM
0

Why not women from Ukraine, one of the -stan countries, or any dictatorship that's poorer than America?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 02:06 AM
59

I'd pick 1 but I don't agree with referring to such a woman as a "bang maid". I'd prefer it if my wife stayed home & took care (or mostly took care) of the kids, cooking, cleaning, &c. I think such a setup would be better for our children & for our relationship as a couple, especially if, as in this scenario, I work 60 hours a week. I'd be much more open to option 2 if neither of us works more than 25 hours a week outside the home. Being a SAHM can be as exhausting or more exhausting than workin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 02:03 AM
1

WASP I wish! They aren't really into Protestantism anymore. Now they're just WAS's.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 03:56 AM
2

Based
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 03:55 AM
1

I can build some rapport, apparently just not a lot (at least with most women, so far). High libido women who are religious enough share my belief against fornication; they specifically want men like me in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 01:45 AM
1

A wife & kids are the main worldly things I want in life. Because I'm religious, I have no way of satisfying my sexual needs without marriage. Not all women think the very nature of me is disgusting, since some have indicated interest in me. Women in general do quite a lot to seem appealing to men; sometimes they even try to catch my interest in particular.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 01:42 AM
1

Thanks, I'll give it a try!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 01:06 AM
1

I don't think I naturally have a sense of humour like neurotypicals tend to, though women have complimented by intelligence & knowledge several times. I always feel the pressure of dating when I'm around young, attractive women TBH; I don't think I can just turn that off before I get a GF.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 02:10 PM
1

How do you do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 04:34 AM
1

How am I supposed to find a wife without talking? I'm doing my best to learn body language. I like to think that I've made good progress, but maybe that's just a comforting lie I tell myself. "Escalate" to what? Sex? I don't believe in sex outside of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:34 AM
1

Is it possible for a man with autism or something similar to have an attractive personality to most women/the average woman? If it is possible, should such men try to develop such attractive personalities, or are they better off focusing on other things?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:15 AM
1

She's guaranteed to sleep with other men behind her partners back This is blatantly false.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:05 AM
1

Yes, I'm sorry to say that means I think a lot of these men are toxic. Most people are What is a non toxic person like, in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:02 AM
2

So far, I haven't been able to get into a relationship, though it's worth noting that I have incredibly high standards which virtually no women in my area meet. In my university years I knew several women who I probably had a shot with, but they didn't meet my standards at the time. Now I've reduced my standards to the lowest level I can bear, but they still filter out most women, & I have less ability to meet women that I'm done school. Living in an area that's incredibly liberal even by Wester…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 06:36 AM
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For the most part, women have just said that they're busy on that day when I've suggested a date, or busy in general. (By this point, I know what that means lol.) A few have explicitly said that they're not interested in me in that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 06:30 AM
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I don't have the capacity to meet dozens of women who meet my standards & are willing to flirt with me every week. I don't think I've met a dozen such women in my *lifetime*.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:59 AM
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Only one of the women who rejected me actually provided reasons. (This wasn't one of the women I asked out after meeting in person; I met her on an app.) IIRC, she mentioned that we have different goals & a different lifestyle, though she didn't elaborate. Some of my friends have said that I'm awkward & weren't surprised when I told them that I have NVLD. Others have said that I'm seemingly entirely normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 09:48 PM
1

It's possible for an introvert to enjoy partying & to hang out with their friends a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 08:33 PM
1

No, we've never spent time alone together.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:06 AM
1

What if A were younger? How different would B have to be to fit your type?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:02 AM
1

What do you mean by "total introvert"? He isn't necessarily antisocial. He just needs time away from large groups of people. Would you date the other guy if he were younger? Also, is not going to college a deal breaker for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:00 AM
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From what you've seen, what kind of men do far-right women date? (It's worth noting that I'm only "far-right" compared to my very liberal surroundings; in much of the world I'd be considered centrist or even liberal).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 04:42 AM
2

I'm managed to find a few women who have similar religious & political views to me. So far, they've all rejected me. At this point, I'm willing to give it a shot with religious women who are liberal, though like you said liberal women (at least white liberal women born & raised in the modern West) are unlikely to give me a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:57 PM
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I don't see how that would help with women before I know whether they're into me or not. I think I'll say that when (if?) I manage to get a relationship, or even a few dates with the same woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:45 PM
1

I already ask out slightly overweight girls, but I'm not willing to ask out girls who are very fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:41 PM
1

I've already lowered my standards. I'm trying to make money but I'm more or less starting from the bottom in terms of income.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:39 PM
1

What does that entail?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 04:32 PM
1

I'm a 26 year old skinny white man, just under 5'10", with light olive skin, dark hair which is copious all over my body but beginning to recede on my head, pale green eyes, & a large, hooked nose. (I look similar to the Boston bombers, or the current Ukrainian president). Compared to society around me, I'm a far-right religious extremist; in the shithole country my parents immigrated from, I'm moderate/centrist politically, but still seen as a religious extremist. I'm an introvert, diagnosed wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 03:24 PM
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I'm not sure how much it's my looks; perhaps I should post my pics on those rating subs. My best guess is that I'm below average looking from the perspective of the women around me. The way I act is probably a big factor, for I'm indeed neurodivergent. AFAIK All the women I've asked out were church-going except for one (I knew that asking out the non-churchgoer was a long shot, & I never really expected that to lead anywhere).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 02:57 PM
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Outside of dating apps I've asked out 8 women (though one of them was already dating someone else though of course I didn't know that). I knew them all already as friends or acquaintances.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 02:51 PM
1

I'm practically autistic (diagnosed with NVLD, which is similarly debilitating on social situations). I try my best but realistically I'll probably never understand body language or nuance to the level of a normal person.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 02:47 PM
2

Where do I find these women, & how do I know they like me without asking them first?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 02:32 PM
1

I'm trying, but it looks like I have a long way to go. It'll take me several years to become above average in both muscles & money, if I ever reach that level. My face obviously can't be changed (I'm against plastic surgery on principle) & I don't think my personality can be fundamentally changed either, no matter how much I push myself to socialize.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 02:31 PM
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Every woman I've ever asked out in person has rejected me so far. What needs to change so that I can have some success?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 02:07 PM
1

What if a were younger? What if b were extroverted & sociable?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:11 AM
1

What if b has a promising career but he's at an early stage (just started his own business, in medical school, getting a 2nd degree, &c.)? If b already had a good job, what would make you choose him over a?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:10 AM
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Would you go for a if he were younger?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:06 AM
1

What about option b is a deal breaker?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:06 AM
1

There absolutely can be incentives. Maybe they vibe really well. Maybe he has a promising career he's just at the beginning of. Maybe she's really enchanted by him for reasons she herself doesn't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:05 AM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 08:02 PM
1

Question for women who are attracted to men: Let's say you're in your early 20s. Would you rather date a) a fun, exciting, extroverted, neurotypical man in his early 30s with a big social circle who never went to college or university but makes good money working in a skilled trade, & is culturally a country boy (drives a truck &c.), or b) an autistic (or close to it), introverted, awkward, naturally shy/reserved man in his mid 20s with a limited social circle who's well educated but currently u…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 07:53 AM
2

That's generally true, but there are plenty of exceptions. Just like how virgins tend to make better spouses, though there are plenty of people who have happy marriages despite their past indiscretions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:33 AM
2

There's a lot more to education than formal schooling.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 05:07 PM
1

I have both a college diploma & a uni. degree. I already had critical thinking skills as a child, & I'm still not convinced that the vaccines developed for Covid-19 were safe or necessary. Fortitude? Do you really think a college dweeb like me has demonstrated more fortitude than a military veteran who never went to college?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 03:35 PM
2

There are plenty of ambitious, motivated men who learned a skilled trade or started their own business instead of getting a college diploma or uni. degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 03:32 PM
1

I shy away from using "traditional" in this context. I see it as a loaded term, associated with Putinists, Holocaust deniers &c. I'm not one of those men who uses the phrase "I want a traditional woman". Instead I'd describe what I'm looking for as "I want a woman who shares my values", or more specifically "I want a woman who shares my devout, Bible-based Christian faith, is against sex outside of hetero marriage, & believes that the man is the head of the household. Ideally I'd also prefer it …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 12:25 AM
1

Those of us with a well-developed moral compass care.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 10:37 PM
1

Men tend to have higher sex drives than women, & men are socialized to watch porn more than women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 10:35 PM
2

No, that would indicate that she doesn't have the values I'm looking for in a partner. AFAIK none of my friends are scum bags. In the unlikely event of what OP describes happening, I'd cut both the "friend" & the woman out of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:01 AM
1

No, I'm viscerally disgusted by plastic surgery. I unironically love features like big noses, thin lips, or small breasts on women!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:58 AM
2

This is false when it comes to women who belong to religious or ethnic minorities, or even those who have unpopular political views for their area. It's very reasonable for them to want someone like themselves. Of course I sympathize with them, for I as a man am in a similar situation. I'm absolutely not willing to settle for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:19 PM
1

Women who want kids have less time than men, not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 06:38 PM
2

I don't think going to the bar will help me, unless it's with a pre-existing friend group. As a devout Christian, I'm strongly opposed to drunkenness & to sex outside of marriage. That being said, I try hard to be social among other Christians.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 05:13 AM
1

Yes, absolutely. Why wouldn't I be?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:28 AM
2

What exactly is a traditional woman, & what exactly is a traditional man?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:12 AM
1

I don't think I'd use her iPad at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 09:10 PM
1

I'm alone at 26 & still not ready to give up!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 06:45 AM
1

I'd be devastated, though I don't think I'd snoop on her iPad on the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 06:41 AM
1

Hey, some hot college girls are extreme conservatives themselves, though you're definitely right that extreme conservatives are a small minority in college/university (at least in the West). I was one of those extreme conservative guys at university. I managed to emerge with my virginity intact, but even for a below-average guy like me who deliberately avoided promiscuous women, it was difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 06:37 AM
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From my perspective, it's primarily progressives that want to oppress people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:30 AM
1

From my perspective liberal "feminists" are the same coin as redpill/incels/MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 10:29 PM
1

What if they regret it & wouldn't do it again?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 10:03 PM
1

Edited. Also, I was responding to this: I’m not sure why some of these zoomers think ye olden years of late 90s/early aughts were somehow less degenerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:55 PM
-1

A hardline social conservative zoomer of the type you're referring to would consider LGBT acceptance to be degenerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:49 PM
0

Yes. Obviously I don't think I'm going to meet my wife on PPD, but I don't spend literally all of my free time here. IRL I go out of my way to meet or talk to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:41 PM
-3

I think Jesus wouldn't approve of some of those dance moves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:29 PM
-1

Speak for yourself. My parents were virgins when they married.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:27 PM
-1

Societal acceptance of the LGBT movement was far lower back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:27 PM
0

I don't want to hook up. I want to meet a wholesome woman & marry her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:24 PM
1

Unironically true
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:18 PM
1

She isn't a stranger, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 07:32 PM
2

If a woman's really nice to everyone because she has a fun/flirty personality, how can I tell if I have a shot with her & that she isn't just being nice? Keep in mind that I have NVLD (more or less like autism) & have been rejected by every woman I've ever asked out through social circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 06:34 PM
3

Refraining from masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:41 AM
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If they willingly fornicated in the past, admit that they did wrong & be willing to face rejection for their past misdeeds (as opposed to making excuses like "I was vulnerable" or demanding that men accept them regardless of their past). If they abandoned their marriage without a valid reason but later realize that this was wrong, admit wrongdoing, be willing to face rejection for their past misdeeds, &, if it's reasonable to do so, seek reconciliation with the man they abandoned (as opposed to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 04:35 PM
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If I'm only to willing to have sex within marriage & have high standards for my future wife, but consistently fail to get relationships or even first dates with women who meet my standards, am I an incel or a volcel? On the one hand, I continuously make the choice to abstain from sex. On the other hand, I want sex but don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 04:30 PM
2

It's natural to be horrified by the nature of the opposite sex. Part of growing up is accepting that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 04:27 PM
1

OTOH, women face more serious potential consequences for sex, & also tend to have lower sex drives than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 04:24 PM
1

No. 6 weeks is too soon to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 04:21 PM
1

Us social conservatives have always said this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:00 AM
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Average men can get some action by simply dressing well, grooming, approaching women, learning how to communicate with women, and learning how to build sexual tension. Once an average man learns those things, he’s no longer average. How realistic is this for men who legitimately have disorders such as autism or NVLD, & who also happen to be right-wing & devoutly religious despite living in a left-wing & secular area?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:17 PM
2

What if your man's autistic but one of his special interests is making you cum?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 04:55 AM
1

Somewhat less men than women overall. None of the churches I've been a part of were "mostly women." I wouldn't say that Christian men "have plenty of women to choose from" in general. My experience seems to be that boys & girls are even growing up; there only seem to be more women among the older crowd. Anecdotally, I definitely haven't had plenty of women to choose from since I spent much of my life in a dying church, & the church I go to now also hardly has single women close to me in age. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:51 PM
2

Yes 😇
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:13 AM
1

Based
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:06 AM
1

TBH I don't think men are meant to be promiscuous either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 03:03 AM
1

I can see it!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 02:58 AM
1

I'm spent my life in such communities, & the ones I've been a part of have always had plenty of men. I don't think normie men value women being virgins more today than they did 20 years ago; it probably just seems that way because of the minority of men online who are vocal about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:25 PM
1

The Bible teaches that some are meant to be alone. "Right to intimacy" is only for those who manage to find a spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:21 PM
1

I have these issues & people say such things to my face IRL all the time. Frankly, I agree with them. This is what Christianity teaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:17 PM
1

Your personal experience only involves a small fraction of all men. It's likely that you run in different circles from men who want or prefer virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:52 PM
1

Are all religious men in the West tradcons or part of the manosphere?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:42 PM
1

Plenty of men have always wanted virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:41 PM
2

Obviously, all humans have intrinsic value, but it's definitely ideal to be a virgin until marriage. People who still hold to good morals are going to feel excluded by mainstream society in the West & much of the rest of the world. It's generally a good idea to try to find likeminded people. It's definitely possible to have an "ex" while being a virgin. Most religious married people I know had sexless relationships before marriage. Virgins have much to be proud of!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:35 PM
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You asked: Why does all this feigned concern for women's virginity not translate into shaming and harsher punishments for child molesters? My point is that people like me (devoutly religious socio-political conservatives who care about virginity) have, generally speaking, always supported & carried out shaming & harsh punishments for child molesters, though of course every group contains hypocrites. Everything in your latest comment here is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:12 AM
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Of course, but jealousy or disgust doesn't necessarily include hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 10:16 PM
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It's certainly possible to feel disgusted by such men, but from my perspective it's the woman who had hookups who demonstrated weak character. Anyone who follows the same moral system I do will be grossed out by hookups, & men feeling jealous in this scenario is mostly a natural, involuntary process that can't be helped.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 09:20 PM
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What's I'm saying is that it's possible to feel both jealous & grossed out because she had hookups. It doesn't matter whether these guys are "chads" or not; what matters is that she had hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 08:07 AM
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If a man abstains from sex for religious reasons, how early should he date, have a (chaste) relationship, or marry? Many here on PPD claim that it's important for a man to have his first relationship in high school; OTOH many men don't get married until 30+, if they ever get married. How are religious male virgins supposed to make sense of all this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 08:00 AM
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Being grossed out at hookups doesn't necessarily negate feeling jealous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:35 PM
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I don't believe that women are ever "public property". I just think hookups are gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:13 AM
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What do you think happens to high sex drive men who are convinced that sex outside of marriage is a sin but don't immediately find a wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:06 AM
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On the one hand, I'd be sad that she ever did hookups. On the other hand, I'd be glad that she doesn't do them anymore. Her having ever done hookups would *probably* be a deal-breaker, though if she's repentant I'm theoretically willing to give her a shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:01 AM
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You can't believe that devoutly religious men exist who happen to be born with high sex drives? You can't believe that people with extremely strongly held beliefs are capable of using immense willpower in a seemingly irrational way?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:53 AM
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Once again, you don't seem to understand what devout religiosity is like. How do you explain the fact that I'm a high-libido religious man & yet have never tried to get into a woman's pants in my entire life? How do you explain the fact that most unmarried men in my social circle are high-libido religious men who totally abstain from sex, & have either never had sex nor tried to have sex, or are otherwise are sorry that they ever had sex or tried to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 02:15 AM
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By definition, those ones weren't really devoutly religious.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:51 AM
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You don't seem to realize how devout religiosity works. People will literally allow themselves to be tortured to death for the sake of religion. Is it really that hard for you to understand how a devoutly religious man who happens to have a high sex drive can restrain himself?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:44 PM
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Do you really think that every single Christian man saving himself for marriage has a low sex drive? People who sincerely hold to such religious beliefs abstain no matter how high their sex drive is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:55 AM
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It seems pretty self explanatory. High sex drive = high libido = high craving for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:21 AM
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That's fair. Such men don't want you either. They absolutely do pursue women for sex...by pursuing women for marriage. These men generally have high sex drives, they just learn to control it (or at least try to).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:47 PM
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Men who haven't been in a relationship yet aren't necessarily immature, & sometimes they know who they are, what they want, & how to behave & communicate in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:11 AM
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Some men had women attracted to them but chose not to pursue because they didn't think they were compatible. In religious circles, it's common to not begin dating until college, because sex outside of marriage is forbidden & dating outsiders is forbidden or at least discouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:07 AM
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Yes, and? I never implied otherwise. That's beside the point. What makes you think that I don't understand that they're laborious? I know they're laborious; I also know they were generally combined with staying home with the kids. Women who worked as seamstresses, cooks, domestics, &c. despite having families of their own were generally part of a poor minority. I don't think there was any point in Western history before 1970 or so where the *majority* of married women with children worked such j…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 03:19 AM
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You seemed to be referring to "work" in the narrow sense of paid labour outside the home. The fact that women have always done housework is so obvious to me that I didn't consider that you were addressing people who denied that. I usee such specific language to drive home the point that housework is work. I thought you were the one trying to change the discussion. My point was that women have always worked, just not usually for monetary compensation. Apparently that was your point too but it fle…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 11:28 PM
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"Drastic shifts in sex roles seem to be sweeping through America. From 1890 to 1985 the participation in the work force of women between the ages of twenty-five and forty-four soared from 15 to 71 percent, with the pace of change tripling after 1950. At the end of the Second World War only 10 percent of married women with children under the age of six held jobs or were seeking them. Since then mothers of preschool children have thronged the job market: by 1985 the census had classified more than…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 07:14 PM
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In premodern society, women didn't generally work as merchants or farmers in the way that men did. The main economic unit was the family, not the individual. Men worked as merchants or farmers. In most rural households, the women cooked, cleaned the house, made/repaired/cleaned clothing & bedding, did childcare, &c. Sometimes rural women did some kind of craft at home, but this was in addition to all their housework. In wealthy landowner or merchant families, housework was outsourced as paid job…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:11 PM
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The fact is that *most* married women in American, Canada, & other Western countries did not have paid employment until the 1970s. In Western culture, women have always been expected to do the lions share of free domestic labour. Before the Industrial Revolution, not only did most women have no paid outside the home, but most men didn't either; most men were subsistence farmers. In most households, the man did all or most agricultural work while the woman did all or most of the housework. With i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:59 PM
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Why would women want to make it MORE common for men to approach them? Do you think they feel like it doesn't happen often enough? I provided much-needed pushback against your overly simple comment. My personal experience actually has not relevance to the point. I haven't told anyone what to do, just noting that many women *do* want to be approached more. You don't seem to give much thought to the situation of, say, religious women who are in the same sort of situation as I'm in, who desperately …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 03:10 PM
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I can make definitive claims on the subject because I know for a fact that some women wish they were approached more. What kind of a life do I think I have?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 02:45 AM
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My statement is an undisputable fact. I've personally met women who wish they were approached more, or who had times in their lives when they wish they were approached more. I'm pretty sure I've seen several women say such things on this sub as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 04:40 PM
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There are unattractive women who wish they were approached more, as well as women with very high standards who wish they were approached more by men who meet their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:30 AM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:54 AM
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Of course I'm hesitant, but I have few options. I know married couples who met young & have similar age gaps. They're doing fine. OTOH if things don't work out it's no big deal. It'll be a learning experience for both of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 01:57 AM
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I think it should be talked about in religious tones but without self-worship. Of course self worship is evil, but sex under the right conditions is not only good but holy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 01:53 AM
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I'm in Canada; the drinking age is 19 here (there's technically no minimum age for drinking at home with your parents, but otherwise the age is strictly 19). I've never properly been clubbing & only go to bars occasionally. The lady I'm interested in seems to be even more of a shut in than myself. I see your point, though. My expectations are low.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:46 PM
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I'm looking for a gf in the 20-25 range, though I'm open to 18-30. In the past I preferred women who were my age or older, but I dream of having a big family & I'd prefer a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:41 PM
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I'm mortified too, especially since I'm a simp at heart yet have little money at the moment, but I have few options.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:39 PM
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What efforts did they make & how did they get burned? I know quite a few people who got married in their early 20s or even younger & seemingly have perfectly successful marriages, though none of those couples have a bigger gap than 5 years, & the average gap seems to be 2 years or less. I'm more or less the same person I was in high school. At 20 years old I was very much ready for marriage. By the time I turned 23 I had specific life goals which haven't changed & I was already actively looking …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:35 PM
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Where I live, the age of consent is generally 16. (There are close-in-age exceptions; 12 year olds can sleep with 13 year olds, 13 year olds can sleep with 14 year olds, 14 year olds can sleep with 18 year olds, & 15 year olds can sleep with 19 year olds. OTOH, there's a strict age of consent of 18 with no exceptions when one person is in a position of power, trust, authority, or dependency above the other). In practice, although older men sleeping with high schoolers may be legal, it's massivel…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:28 PM
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Are you 23 dating a 17 year old or 17 dating a 23 year old?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:16 PM
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Why wouldn't you do so, & why do you nevertheless think it's morally right to do so?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:15 PM
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What complications can I expect?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:14 PM
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Sorry to hear about all that. Fake Christians are among the biggest offenders, sure. Obviously, by definition, a genuine Christian doesn't rape or cover up rape. Any church that tolerates such blatant church is obviously a fake church; they aren't living up to the standards of Biblical Christianity. In many places, marrying below the age of consent is legal, although I've never personally encountered it & I don't think any of the Christian parents I know would be OK their child doing so. *Some c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:13 PM
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What about her parents?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:56 PM
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Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 10:56 PM
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Thoughts on a 26 year old man dating a 20 year old woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 09:55 PM
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Female sexuality being talked about in religious tones isn't a bad thing, as long as male sexuality is also talked about this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:23 PM
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If it gets to that point I'll go on Christian mingle or move to a more conservative area.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 04:05 PM
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My church is more liberal than Catholicism in terms of what is allowed but is still hyper-conservative relative to regular society around us. Although I'm not nearly as anti-Catholic as I used to be & am a lot more openminded than I used to be in terms of who I'm willing to date or marry, I'm still not willing to marry a Catholic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:20 AM
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Who says we aren't enraged? Generally speaking, people don't randomly bring up such sensitive topics during casual conversations, but it's very much something every single person I know who cares about sexual purity is deeply concerned by & something I myself think about a lot. My parents & all of my politically-involved close friends have expressed their disgust at such actions. Anti-trafficking organizations have talked numerous times at Christian conferences I've been to. My right-leaning fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:11 AM
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Us social conservatives have always supported shaming & harsh punishments for child molesters. What makes you think otherwise? Generally speaking, we're the ones clamoring for capital punishment or life in prison for sex criminals while liberal urge leniency. Being violently opposed to pedophiles is a *huge* talking point among conservatives. Looking at the right-wingers I know, we, if anything, tend to go overboard, i.e. calling for extrajudicial violence against suspected pedophiles. I don't t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:03 AM
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Looks like I might have to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:09 PM
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> Church on Sundays, waiting until marriage, the whole works? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:08 PM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:00 PM
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I've definitely considered that. I don't have much money right now & I'm not yet desperate enough to try that. If in a few years I'm still alone but (God-willing) have more money I'll give it a shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:44 PM
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My main church is no-denominational, but I also attend a Bible study at a Pentecostal church & I grew up in a Vineyard church. There are no really big differences between the three. In our sort of Evangelicalism, denominations don't matter a whole lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:41 PM
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Protestant, what most people would refer to as "Evangelical".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:20 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:19 PM
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Yeah, I know :'(
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:18 PM
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I already do that. I've been thinking about being a bit less upfront so that I can get more dating experience; perhaps that's a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:32 PM
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I already attend church. Church hopping just to find a girl seems scummy to me, though perhaps I should give it a shot. I have options all around the world, though I'm not yet desperate enough to move. I don't care about the specific manner, I just want it to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:31 PM
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I already do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:29 PM
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I'm already trying to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:29 PM
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No, that's still sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:16 PM
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How? What advice would you give him to get a wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:15 PM
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What dating advice would you give a man who doesn't believe in sex outside of marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:13 PM
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Women with reasonable standards are happy to date men who live with their parents. That's the norm in most of the world & it (or living with roommates) is re-emerging as the norm in HCOL areas of the West. All of the married men in my family lived with their parents until they got married.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:49 PM
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One of the women who rejected me said it was "partly because of distance, difference of lifestyle and outlooks on the future kind of thing." Other than that, women don't give me reasons when they reject me, so I can only speculate. I'm diagnosed with NVLD, which is broadly similar to autism/Asperger's. I'm introverted. I'm naturally awkward. I have bizarre interests which I tend to hyperfixate on, & don't have much in the way of normal interests or normal hobbies. I tend to have low self esteem,…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:18 AM
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No, I've been sick for over a week :'( I'm hoping to go back on Monday tho!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:38 AM
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I'm thin & I tend to do horribly with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:36 AM
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one of those terminally online edgelord people from either an incel/blackpill or radfem/femcel space? Isn't that Reddit in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:29 AM
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What about true love but limited to marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:28 AM
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It makes me hopeful.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:25 AM
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I'm willing to invest a lot of time & attention into women as well, I'm just inherently less attractive due to my autism & introversion. A lot of these guys didn't seem to invest lots of time & attention into women. They just got lucky by meeting a looksmatch they happened to vibe with in the right place at the right time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:58 PM
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Yep. I used to think I was extremely ugly. Then I realized that the guys I saw succeeding with women while I continued to fail weren't generally better looking than me; they just happened to be quick-witted, extraverted, & neurotypical.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 06:24 AM
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As long as there's a marital exception, that's pretty based.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:38 AM
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Man. Sex - And all other exclusive forms of physical intimacy Children Stability - Sense of stability that comes with being in a committed relationship Emotional intimacy - Someone you can be completely vulnerable with Emotional support - Provides comfort and support during trying times Companionship - Not being alone Partner for chasing shared goals Financial benefits Social benefits - Wider social net, approval by society, etc ​ Sex & children are the most important to me by far. (If me or my …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:55 AM
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The happiest women I know were or are submissive wives, including my own mother & grandmother.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:01 AM
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I'm uncomfortable using the term "deserve" in this context. Everyone should strive to be content with their life regardless of what it's like. Everyone should strive to be the best possible spouse. All that being said, a husband should keep the following standard: -be a devout Christian (the rest of the points are contained in this one!) -be totally monogamous: he shouldn't so much as look at porn or fantasize about other women -don't even consider divorce unless she cheats, or perhaps if she co…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:26 AM
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Some people are passionate about a degree in general, even if they want a degree or a type of degree in particular. I'm passionate about having kids in general, even though I'm only willing to do so with the partner I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 05:11 AM
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I've resolved to try hard to make myself more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 12:09 AM
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Of course I'm not going to settle just to have kids, but being a dad is nevertheless something I strongly pursue in life the way normal people pursue education, career, money, luxury, social status, &c. The frustrating thing is that I have met & asked out women who were also baby-crazy, but they all rejected me. On top of that I have few avenues to meet women at this point in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 12:06 AM
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I'm not only introverted but devoutly religious. The tiny amount of women who meet my religious standards close to me in age are busy with church, as well as school &/or work. There are currently no options at my local church, I'm done schooling (for now), & the odds of meeting another born-again Christian (who happens to be single, attractive, close to my age, interested in me, & otherwise compatible) in the workplace are almost zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 12:03 AM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 12:00 AM
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How can a man successfully transition to a relationship with a woman who's in the same social circle but not a close friend? Most of the married/LTR couples I know met this way, though so far I've been rejected every single time I've tried to ask such a woman out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 11:20 PM
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For very religious people, it isn't too weird to enter college or university with little to to no relationship experience, but to graduate years later still having no experience is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 11:18 PM
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Is it weird for a 26 year old man to be baby crazy? (I've been like this more or less since I was 22, & even before that I've wanted to have kids for as long as I can remember).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 11:15 PM
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I'm 26. I've been on OkCupid, Tinder, Bumble, & Hinge since I was 24. I almost never get matches on OKCupid, & they never lead anywhere. I never took Tinder very seriously; I don't use it much & I've never had a match there. On Bumble & Hinge I get few matches, & over more than 2 year I've gotten a total of 5 first dates between each app. 1 of those women I turned down for a second date; the other women all turned me down for a second date.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 11:06 PM
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It's a fact that, generally speaking, women want children: How Many Kids Do Women Want? | Institute for Family Studies (ifstudies.org) Half of all U.S. women say they want to have a child, survey reveals | PBS NewsHour Desire for Children Still Norm in U.S. (gallup.com)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 09:42 PM
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He isn't saying that's literally the case in reality. He's setting it up that way hypothetically to see whether PPD women would rather be housewives or sex-workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:25 AM
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Men don't naturally struggle to respect housewives like the opposite, however. I'm refer to how people deeply feel, not necessarily what they consciously admit to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 10:04 PM
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All the good things in life are dangerous if you think it about hard enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:32 PM
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Traditional marriage should be a lot more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:30 PM
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Largely because it's a traditionally feminine role. Women tend to struggle to respect a man who can't or won't provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:29 PM
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No. The majority of married women in Canada & the US (& presumably most of the rest of the West) were unemployed at any given time until the 1970s. It wasn't just upper-middle class or higher women, it was pretty much all middle class women + a large amount of lower class women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:27 PM
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Generally speaking, housewives want children, often more than their husbands do. Who said housewives can't refuse sex? Depending on how you define the term, housewives can have income of their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:24 PM
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This question doesn't necessarily show that. Perhaps, from OP's perspective, it's modern/"educated"/"feminist" women who have little respect for the role of housewife, or see it as equivalent to sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:22 PM
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I'm in Canada.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:17 PM
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I'm unironically open to moving to a different country for love.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:16 PM
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True 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:13 PM
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Hope things get better for you soon :'(
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 06:02 PM
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Hypothetically speaking 👀
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 06:01 PM
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If I date a Ukrainian refugee, how can I know whether or not she really likes me or just wants a fast track to citizenship?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 06:01 PM
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Probably not. I can barely handle the thought of marrying a non-virgin, let alone someone's who's had an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:54 PM
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Sometimes women ask about my relationship experience even before the first date, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:55 PM
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I hope so!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:19 AM
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"no sex outside of marriage" types
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:19 AM
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Not lying is part of my religion. I've had girls ask about my past relationships before.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:18 AM
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Do you think religious women ages 18-25 would be happy to date a 26 year old religious man who's never been in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:49 AM
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Good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 11:54 PM
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What an ignorant thing to say. I'm 100% sure of my faith & I'd happily die before I give it up. I'm not sure what's considered "super early". Sometimes family or friends help set people up, though marriages in my circle are definitely not arranged like in India or among European aristocrats centuries ago. (Not sure what you mean by "basically arranging"; a marriage is either arranged by family or not). I'm not sure what's considered a niche religious group. Career & gym will make me more attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:27 PM
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None for me. I don't believe in sex outside of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:48 PM
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Yeah. I'm currently pushing myself hard at my career & at the gym, & I'm seriously considering moving to a more religious/conservative place once I have a bit more money & work experience. For now I've gone through the 5 stages of grief & accepted my lot in life.
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