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I'm a 28 year old man, & I suspect that an 18 year-old woman coworker has a crush on me. What should I do?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:20 AM
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Its an entirely cultural & psychological phenomenon. In the past when people were much poorer, almost everyone was married with multiple children by 30. That kind of thing is also more common today in poor countries than in rich countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 08:58 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:04 PM
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We both want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:21 PM
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I'm a religious virgin looking for marriage. How would it help me to date non exclusively?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:20 PM
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😭 Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:18 PM
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Thoughts on a 28 year old man dating a 37 year old woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:37 AM
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I do!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 07:41 PM
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Understandable. The drinking age is 19 here, & neither if us are big bar people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:50 PM
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Bible study.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 08:47 PM
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28M dating a 20F. AMA!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:59 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:08 PM
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I'm going on the first 2nd date of my life soon. AMA!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 08:00 PM
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How can I maximize the possibility of it working out long term?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:52 PM
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I think that a smaller gap would be ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:51 PM
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Men with a lot of partners = red flag Women with a lot of partners = red flag Male virgins = green flag Female virgins = green flag
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 05:01 AM
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We're both relatively conservative Christians interested in marriage & family who live in the same city & have mutual friends. I don't have any really close friends, though my friend groups do include 20 yo guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 04:58 AM
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Thoughts on a 28 year old man dating a 20 year old woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:48 AM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:34 PM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:33 PM
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It hasn't occurred yet. I'm about to leave for it!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:22 PM
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Yes. I don't think she's as devout or as conservative as me, but she seems to be heading in that direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 05:56 AM
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No, I thought that would be too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 05:51 AM
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I have a date in a few hours. Feel free to offer me advice or to ask me questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 05:03 AM
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No. There's no development in AI that would make me want to date it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 04:25 AM
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We're in Canada. She's lived most of her life in India but currently lives in Canada, whereas I've lived in Canada my whole life. My parents are from Romania.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:38 PM
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Always 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 07:34 PM
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Should a guy bring flowers to a coffee date which is also a 1st date?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 06:27 PM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:58 PM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:52 PM
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She asked me out by Insta DM. Presumably she thinks I'm cute. We both live in the same Canadian city.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:52 PM
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When you have a date with a woman set a few days in advance, how much should you talk or text with her until then?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:45 PM
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A woman just asked me out. AMA!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:44 PM
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The important thing is that your comment is wrong. Much of the world has more extreme politics than America, & Europeans as a whole aren't more accepting of political disagreement in a partner or family member than Americans as a whole are. You're the one who made this conversation about the world as a whole, & in particular about Europe. Why would you specify "europe" when you think that European countries aren't "worth considering on PPD"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 01:11 AM
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This isn't an America-specific subreddit. They're European countries, so they're well worth considering in light of your reference to Europe, as well as your reference to "anywhere else" outside of America.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 11:47 PM
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Much of the world has much more extreme politics than America. The American right as a whole (including most Trump supporters) is downright liberal compared the right in countries like Hungary, Romania, or Ukraine, or compared to the entire political spectrum in countries like Russia.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:55 AM
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If you don't mind my asking, what area do you live in, & what race & social class are you & your girlfriend? I'm a 28 year old middle-class white guy in the suburbs near Toronto. In my area, in my experience, middle-class white women under 30 generally refuse to openly associate with men are openly "a bit racist & sexist". They'll hook up with them on the down-low if they're hot, but generally won't date them seriously or even be good friends with them. They may put up with it for a little if he…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:24 PM
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First!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 03:21 AM
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It absolutely is possible for an average man in the West to support a family on his salary alone...they'll just be "poor" by contemporary Western standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:32 PM
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How can I improve my chances of success when meeting women at singles events?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:32 AM
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Q 4 Men attracted to women: Have you ever had dating success from mixers or other events specifically for singles? If so, what did you do exactly, & what factors do you think contributed to your success?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 06:47 PM
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In the modern West, the status quo is socially progressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 10:37 PM
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How do you explain the fact that (in America & in other Western countries, at least) the political gender gap seems to have arose around 1980s, & that before that, women tended to be right-wing as much as or even more so than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 10:35 PM
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Women should ideally start having kids once they reach 30 at the very latest. Men can be a little older, though I think that age gaps of more than 10 years or so are almost always foolish . Unfortunately, marriage minded people often struggle to find someone young. I myself am an example of someone who failed to get married or have kids like I would've wanted to. At 21, I set a goal for myself to get married by 25 & have at least 2 kids by 30. I'm still single at 28.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 11:45 PM
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I wouldn't mind one 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 10:33 PM
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Going Dutch may be the norm in Western Europe, but in other parts (especially Russia, Ukraine, & the Balkans), gender norms in dating are even stronger than in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 03:34 AM
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Q4Men who have dated a woman you knew from your social circle: Could you tell that she was into you, or did you take a risk by asking her out without knowing? If you could tell, how exactly did her behaviour towards you differ from other women in you social circle who just want to be friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 08:49 PM
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How exactly did you get a GF?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/25 11:49 PM
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I wouldn't consider such a thing until I've had at least 2 children. Because it's new, we don't really know what the long term effects are. I'm highly skeptical of any invasive contraceptive procedure. I likewise wouldn't except my wife to get an IUD or any other such thing. I'm skeptical of artificial contraception (especially condoms) in general for theological reasons, though not 100% against it. I'm skeptical of hormonal birth control for women as it currently exists b/c it can have massive …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 05:13 PM
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I could definitely see this technology reducing birth rates. Much of America's decline in birthrates over the last 20 years or so seems to be due to declining teen pregnancy due to increased sex ed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 05:00 PM
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My impression is that Gen Z tends to be more into getting stoned than getting drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 12:28 AM
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How helpful is money for autistic guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 08:56 PM
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Yes, absolutely. At 28, I already feel old & feel like there are hardly anymore good options left for me. I'm also afraid of settling for someone who isn't a good fit for me due to this fear of growing old alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 04:11 AM
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It means that the man has ultimate decision-making power. This is supported by the church. If she left me for no good reason, she'd be excluded by our church community, which likely includes much of her family & friends. It isn't necessarily based on personal qualities other than her being a devout Christian who shares my views, which among other things includes a commitment to male leadership in marriage. The man makes the final call as to how their household saves & spends money, though in a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 03:08 PM
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I have both a university degree & a college diploma. I currently barely make minimum wage. I have no consumer debt, only mostly paid off student loans & part of the mortgage for the house I share with my parents. I'm in decent shape but not particularly muscular. I'm 5'10. My face is probably perceived as average or below-average by most people, but I love the way it looks. I have a decent jawline, a decent beard, & a big nose for a white guy. I'm beginning to lose my hair. I'm in my late 20s. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/25 07:55 AM
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What culture was he from?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 10:55 PM
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IDK if I would be happier. I'm not going to advocate for something like state-enforced Sharia because it isn't realistically achievable here in Canada where I live, or in any other similar progressive/secular/Western country, & because I have ideological commitments to what I would consider a fairly liberal society, both for ethical reasons & because I think that its in my best interests. I do think that sexual activity outside of hetero-patriarchal marriage is wrong, but I have no issue with mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 01:14 PM
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I'd choose A in both cases. In the first case, B isn't an option at all because someone willing to fornicate doesn't meet my standards. In the second case, I'd be OK with B if she was willing to only work outside the home part-time as long as our kids were elementary-school-age.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 05:56 AM
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Rittenhouse obviously didn't deliberately commit an act of political violence. Me merely legally defended himself with a weapon he legally possessed in a place he was legally entitled to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 09:51 PM
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Yeah, that's exactly my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/25 09:26 PM
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Q4All: Can an autistic man be cool, fun, witty, exciting, &c.?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 04:59 AM
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Your title question is a bit of a false dichotomy, I think. I've met lots of women who are religious, right-wing, or who are, were, or want to be SAHMs, or some combination of the above, in both North America & in Eastern Europe. Many of them don't expect men to spend extravagantly on them during dating, or didn't expect men to do so back when they were dating. Many of them want men to pay or at least appreciate it when they do, but they don't necessarily want expensive restaurant dates or big t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 10:09 PM
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I'm a Canadian right-wing male. I don't know the details of this law, but I don't think that there's anything wrong with restricting or banning porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 01:03 PM
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If she were really "chaste", then she wouldn't have sex with you at all outside of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 10:47 PM
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If that's the case, then why did women consistently vote more conservative than men in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 10:45 PM
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I've lived my whole life in a deeply secular & progressive area. If I'd grown up in your area, I'd probably be married by now, & not desperately lonely like I currently am.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 10:12 PM
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I doubt the premise of your question. I don't think that there are large numbers of conservative men who date liberal women & pressure them to dress more conservative, go to church, & not wear makeup. That being said, I'm a conservative man who's open to dating liberal women. I prefer conservative women, but I have very limited options, so I take what I can get. I may be willing to overlook who she votes for, but I probably wouldn't date someone whom I think dresses immodestly, or who doesn't go…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 10:09 PM
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Overall, no. I'm diagnosed with NVLD, which is similar to Asperger's/high-functioning autism. I'm naturally bad at reading people. Women with such conditions tend to be victims of abuse. I'm good at vetting people in terms of the values they publicly claim to hold, but bad at vetting people in terms of what their true intentions are & what they're actually like deep inside. I think that this would also be the case if I were a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:56 PM
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Can't afford to rn., & there's no one else around here to look after my parents in their old age. I am open to moving & have seriously considered it (in which case I'll pay for people to look after my parents, or they themselves might move to a more conservative area, in which case I might move with them) but I'm not quite desperate enough for that yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 11:48 PM
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I am myself am a more-or-less conservative man. By the standards of the culture around me, I'm ultraconservative on social issues & centrist on economic issues. I'd rather not date liberal women, but I'm open to it because I'm desperately lonely. It's a struggle for me simply to meet a woman who meets my minimal standards & is willing to date me. To make matters worse, I've lived my whole life in a deeply liberal area.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 10:35 PM
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Unless maybe one or both of them is still in school, I think that women should break up with men who don't propose or otherwise make serious moves to marriage after a year or so of dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:36 AM
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It's a highly contentious issue in Christianity. Sexual cheating being the only justification for divorce is probably the most straightforward/literal interpretation of Jesus' words on the issue, so that's the position many conservative Protestants take. I'm not Catholic myself, but AFAIK the Catholic Church doesn't allow divorce at all, but does allow annulment in certain cases, such if one or both of the parties never intended to be monogamous, & also doesn't recognize/automatically annuls mar…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 04:26 PM
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Doesn't your faith (Catholicism) totally forbid divorce (except for what it terms "annulments" which may sometimes coincide with civil divorce), & generally forbid people who are divorced & remarried according to secular law from receiving communion?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 03:50 PM
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How can I be more confident/come across as more confident to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 07:47 AM
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It's a Catholic term for a sermon.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 12:58 PM
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How do outgoing yet kinda awkward 20-something church girls act around guys they recently met whom they want to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:42 AM
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I'd probably give it to her. I'd absolutely never expect a woman I'm on a date with to pay for dinner under any circumstances. It's a nice gesture if she offers to pay, but I prefer to pay, especially on a first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:38 AM
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Here in Canada, you'd be considered far-right.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:32 AM
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I support workplace democracy. I'm progressive when it comes to urbanism & transportation (loosening zoning laws, taking away space from cars, investing heavily in public transit, &c.) I'd support higher taxes if it meant we got rid of peacetime budget deficits + got rid of most government-enforced monopolies (such as for alcohol) nationwide.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:32 AM
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Based Lily 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:23 AM
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I've already asked. They said no 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 01:19 AM
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What am I supposed to do if I'm against sex outside of marriage for religious reasons, & so are all the women I'm willing to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:25 PM
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You don't think it's rude if a man doesn't pay for a meal/drinks?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 01:12 AM
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Thoughts on DMing a woman I have mutuals with?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 01:08 AM
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I'm only willing to date other Christians. I'm definitely open to Maliyali & other Indian women, though I also noticed that those who are willing to date outside their culture tend to be career-oriented.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 09:26 PM
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I'm diagnosed with NVLD, which impairs nonverbal communication similarly to Asperger's/high-functioning autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 08:34 PM
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Respectfully, do you have tips for exactly how a neurodivergent man like myself can do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 07:07 PM
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I'm skinny-fat, under 6' tall, have an unusually large amount of body hair & unusually large nose for a white person, & at 27 years old, I'm balding. In terms of personality, I strongly suspect that I have autism (I'm diagnosed with NVLD which is similar) & I'm naturally introverted, neurotic, passive, quiet, risk-avoidant, & I have difficulty dealing with disruptions to my schedule, new experiences, receiving & sending body language & other social cues, or any kind of wit, banter, or flirting. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:35 PM
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I personally know many married couples were the wife is mostly a homemaker, & either has no job or only a part time job aside from that. All of them live in the developed world, & most of them live in or within commuting distance of a big city.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:33 PM
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Kissing other areas is fine, as long as it isn't sexual. No living together before marriage, changing in the same room, or sleeping in the same bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:46 PM
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Kissing is OK. No seeing her in her underwear.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:42 PM
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No sexual contact whatsoever. I refuse to see the other person naked.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:39 PM
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IDK :/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:27 PM
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Pálinka.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 05:09 PM
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I'm a volcel. AMA!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:49 PM
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That's all true, but the trend OP notes (men tend to hunt big game & do heavy labour while women tend to gather, look after children, & keep house) is generally true across all of human culture throughout history.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 02:20 PM
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Because I have NVLD (basically like autism), I'm naturally a stiff, socially awkward weirdo. No matter how hard I've tried over the years, I simply don't have the natural ability to make women laugh that most normal men seem to have. What am I supposed to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 09:20 PM
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Did he initially flirt/tease/joke around like neurotypical guys do? Did he initiate by asking you out on a date in the conventional sense? Did he, or does he, generally lead in the relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 11:19 PM
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Question for women who are in a relationship with or married to an man with Autism/Asperger's/NVLD: What, specifically, made him attractive to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 09:58 PM
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What percentage of men who had such an active faith were you attracted to/open to dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 04:29 AM
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How did you meet so many religious men? Or did you become religious later in life?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 04:27 AM
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What's the percentage for men who fully meet your religious requirements?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 03:40 AM
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IDK, I know plenty of clean, polite, & respectful men who are neither religious, nor right-wing, nor libertarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 01:42 AM
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Q4W: What percentage of single men close to you in age in your social circle would you be open to dating? What specific traits do they have which other who you *don't* want to date lack?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 12:25 AM
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How exactly does a man look "clearly religious/right-wing/libertarian"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 12:16 AM
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Why not? It's interesting & passes the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 07:18 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 01:57 PM
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It just means Christian. I'm voluntarily celibate in that I refuse to have sex outside of marriage, but I'm involuntarily celibate in that I'm struggling to find a wife who meets my standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 04:38 PM
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This wouldn't happen to me because I refuse to have sex outside of marriage. If my crush did everything you described minus sleeping with me, I'd dump her if she doesn't introduce me to her friends & family soon (unless her family lives far away).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 01:11 AM
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Sometimes I score INTP, sometimes INFP. I am strongly introverted & intuitive, but more or less in the middle when it comes to feeling/thinking & judging/perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 12:05 AM
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I care, but I'm determined/lonely/desperate enough to try anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 11:26 PM
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Very desperate!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 10:05 PM
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I've already gotten desensitized to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 09:40 PM
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Should I only ask out women I know from church/Bible study if they show very clear indicators of interest, or should I go for it even if things are ambiguous?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 09:22 PM
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How can a man succeed with women despite not being naturally funny or witty?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 06:58 AM
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What about women who are introverted, saving themselves for marriage, or have little dating experience? Should I expect a woman like that to make it super obvious, such as by going out of her way to touch me, if she's interested in me?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:58 PM
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Questions for men attracted to women: - Roughly what percentage of women who you meet from work, school, mutual friends, &c., & whom you want to date, show any signs of interest in you? - Roughly what percentage of women say yes when you ask them out? - Based on the above, how well are you able tell whether or not a woman is open to dating you, or is just being friendly? - If you're able to reliably gauge women's interest, what exactly do you look for or notice?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 05:42 AM
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What about a man who believes that both men & women are inherently selfish & evil?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 10:37 PM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:53 AM
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I agree that it's probably best to not know too much about her past.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:51 AM
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Only God can judge who gets into heaven. It's completely nonsensical to interpret that to mean that it's wrong to have any standards when it comes to choosing your spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:50 AM
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Everybody has some unattractive feature. I definitely don't necessarily think that a given woman is unattractive in totality simply because she made some mistakes in the past. I absolutely pursue dating other virgins, but I can't afford to be too picky, & I see no real reason to not pursue a woman simply because she isn't a virgin. I do limit myself to those who believe that sex should only be had in marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:48 AM
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I feel the same way. I'd prefer a virgin, & the kind of women I'm into tend to be virgins, but it isn't a requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:45 AM
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Nobody's perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:35 AM
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I can accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 06:31 AM
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I'm against sex outside of marriage & I think that it's unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:08 PM
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Sex means a lot to me, though, & I wouldn't marry someone who doesn't feel the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:07 PM
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Is that even the case if she's since become genuinely religious?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:05 PM
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IDK. The other day in the daily thread I asked what guys thought of dating a woman who had probably been promiscuous. Some people questioned whether someone like me could fall in love with someone like that, & most seemed to agree that it's a bad idea regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 10:00 PM
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I'm a male virgin. Is it possible for me to like as a romantic partner, fall in love with, & get heavily invested in a woman who isn't a virgin, or was even promiscuous? Even if it's possible, is it a good idea for me to go for such a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 09:51 PM
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What exactly makes a man a good partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 04:42 PM
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I'll take everything you said into consideration.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 07:09 AM
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The fact is, there is indeed a scarcity of women who meet my standards, who are willing to date me, & whom I have opportunities to meet. Your scenario is possible, but so is the opposite. Given how few my options are, there's a nonzero chance that I'll never have another chance with a beautiful, fun, young, woman who shares my values & my life goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:49 AM
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I tend to fall for women & to go all in very quickly. I once got so obsessed with a woman with a checkered past that it took me months to get over her rejecting me, during which months I cried myself to sleep over her several times.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 06:30 AM
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Yeah, I can't afford to be too picky. Whatever happens, happens. Plus I have almost no relationship experience, which means that I'll at least gain some of that. Hopefully some hard lessons will toughen me up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:44 AM
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That all makes sense. IDK, maybe I can't think right because I'm lonely, horny, & baby-crazy :/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:32 AM
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Both the woman & I are devout Christians. We believe that sex outside of marriage is immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:30 AM
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So far I don't know exactly what her "wild phase" entailed, other than walking away from the church & drinking a lot. Both of us are devout Christians, so of course we both have lots of remorse over our misdeeds.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:28 AM
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Yeah, I'm fairly certain, but I don't know her that well. I agree 100% on single moms (unless maybe she's a widow or a rape victim).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:20 AM
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IDK if or to what extent she was promiscuous. All she's admitted to concretely so far is that she used to drink excessively & not attend church.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:15 AM
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TBH I don't know if or to what extent she was promiscuous. "Wild phase" in context meant excessive drinking & generally not being a devout Christian on her part.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:07 AM
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Are a nose ring, tattoos, & wild past always a deal breaker for you when looking for a wife, even if she's fully changed & otherwise ticks all your boxes?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:03 AM
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A single ring in one nostril + a few small tattoos isn't really seen as alt anymore in my setting (young, educated, middle-class people in the vicinity of a big city).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:56 AM
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I tend to avoid risk myself, but marriage in general is risky. She doesn't seem risky to me, especially compared to other women, but I'm not very good at reading people. She isn't a single mom either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:53 AM
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I have such little relationship experience that I don't really know what I'm comfortable with in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:49 AM
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Question for men attracted to women: would you date a woman who has a nose ring & multiple tattoos, & openly to admits to having had a wild phase, but has sobered up & seems genuinely remorseful? Would it change anything if she's good looking (both good genetics & takes care of herself), fun, smart, younger than 35 (& close to you in age if you're 35 or younger yourself), family-oriented, health-conscious but not in a weird way, responsible with money but not miserly, had a good upbringing, has …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:06 AM
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I've thought about doing that, I guess I'll give it a try.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:56 PM
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Yes, I've been on some.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 06:29 AM
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Roughly, but not in detail. What about issues aside from sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 06:17 AM
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Not interested in getting a woman from their at all. I am, however, open to finding someone in Romania (where my parents are from) or Hungary (where most of my extended family lives).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 06:13 AM
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South East Asia? I've never been there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 06:05 AM
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At 27, I've never had a girlfriend. If I ever get into a relationship, is it likely that my lack of experience will cause problems? If so, what can I do right now, while still single, to mitigate such problems?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 05:58 AM
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How did you get into your current relationship without being able to easily tell the difference between someone being friendly and flirting?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 03:30 AM
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Like a gold ring in a pig's snout is a beautiful woman without discretion. - Proverbs 11:22
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 03:43 AM
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What did that actually look like in practice?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 05:48 AM
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Question for people who have ever been in a relationship: What exactly did you learn in your past relationships that makes you better at relationships now?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 05:06 AM
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Is going out to bars really that bad if the person in question doesn't like casual sex or getting drunk & doesn't carry themselves aggressively?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 04:59 AM
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He's effectively harassing others by being obnoxiously loud to the point where his neighbours are disturbed by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:29 PM
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People like that belong in jail.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 03:34 AM
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That's in the context of religious instruction. Those same passages also require both men & women to submit to religious & secular leaders. The only differences in submission between men & women are that a) certain religious leadership roles are limited to men, & b) women are required to submit to the one man they choose to marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:20 AM
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In Christianity, submission is indeed a role women play towards the man they choose to be their husbands. That also generally seems to be the case with Islam, Judaism, & pre-Christian European polytheism, though I'm less familiar with those faiths. Aside from sexual violence committed against the out-group, It seems almost universal across all of human society over the span of thousands of years to respect the right of women to only be submissive to a specific man.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:40 AM
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Not sure what you consider hardline. I'm not a Calvinist but I'm I'm open to Calvinist women. My current church doesn't have a stance on Arminianism vs Calvinism but AFAIK the lead pastor is Arminian.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 02:15 AM
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I go to a non-denomination charismatic church, broadly similar to Calvary Chapel or the Vineyard.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 02:09 AM
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Unfortunately, I'm Protestant. I'm no more compatible with a seriously Catholic or Orthodox woman than I am with a Protestant woman who is politically progressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 11:36 PM
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Most of the young, single women I've met through church or Christian para-church organizations are liberal :/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:58 PM
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Q4All: Do you know any young, conservative men who live in progressive areas and are married to or in a relationship with a conservative woman? If so, where did the 2 of them meet?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 10:48 PM
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I'm a neurotic man, & yet I approach & pursue women 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 04:52 AM
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I don't think that a single ring in one nostril is particularly flashy or out of the norm in contemporary North American society.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 05:16 PM
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In my experience, it's true of septum piercings, but not a ring in one nostril. Among Gen Z, rings-in-one-nostril are so normalized that I've met several women with them who are religious, right-wing, & seemingly have good mental health & good relationships with their fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 04:49 PM
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Where do they meet their husbands?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 07:49 PM
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He isn't really implementing "standard issue conservatism", though. That would involve being anti-Russia, pro-free-trade, & anti-deficit-spending-unless-we're-actively-involved-in-a-big-war. Compared to both the religious right & the pre-Trump Republican establishment, he's actually relatively moderate on abortion & even on Israel. For the most part, he only seems to support conventional conservative policies when there's broad popular support for them (or, on economics issues, when he thinks th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 03:06 PM
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I think it mostly comes from fertility. Women who care about having kids have a very real wall to contend with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:29 PM
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I'm single & looking for marriage. Aside from physical attraction, I'm looking for someone who shares my values & life goals. This means a devout Evangelical who, compared to the society around me, is hyperconservative in theology, politics, & life goals. If I'd have grown up in a more conservative area, or if I'd have attended bigger churches, had more progressive views, or been more open to dating someone which much more progressive views than myself when I was younger, I'd probably be married…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 11:26 PM
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Do you mean maintained his friendships, or maintained his community?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:27 AM
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How can a man in that position mitigate that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 10:55 PM
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>Someone at 30 who has never had a relationship will unequivocally be very frustrating to the other person within a relationship. They just haven’t practiced being in a partnership, sharing, considering others, anticipating others, etc. Why would that be the case if they were raised right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 05:40 AM
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Autistic people aren't necessarily emotionally high maintenance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 04:17 PM
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All women I've been on a date with from a dating app have rejected my offer for a second date except for one who was down for another date but whom I rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:59 PM
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It's mostly because of my upbringing. I've met high-functioning autists who are in relationships or are married; they're either more normal in worldview than me, or simply got lucky (usually at a young age).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 02:38 PM
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I wouldn't say that high-functioning autism/Asperger's "will very very likely result in being single forever". There are plenty of such guys in relationships. I'm on the spectrum & I get a normal amount of attention from women; I'm single because none of the women who wanted me so far met my incredibly niche religious & political standards. If I was a bit less picky I'd likely already be married, or at least have one or more long-term relationships under my belt. High-functioning autism is like …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 03:24 PM
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I can't speak for other men, but in my case I have sexual needs which my religion forbids me from meeting outside of marriage. On top of that, I feel an intense need to have children more than almost anything in life. I already have fulfilling bonds with friends & family (albeit not to the level I would ideally like), but these are no substitute for having sex or for making a family of my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:51 PM
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A significant portion of men who struggle with dating *are* Andrew Tate fans & (depending on how you define the term) misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 09:00 PM
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To a large extent, poor people working low wages are conservatives, & liberals look down on them as uneducated & low-class.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 08:58 PM
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I've thought about it, but rn. I don't have an ability to make a decent living except here. I'm also not sure that things would be much better for me if I return because young, educated people in the big city there are often quite liberal/Westernized.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 03:06 PM
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Yes, I think that's an important factor in my dating failures. Although I'm white, I'm a child of immigrants & have failed to integrate into the culture around me in terms of values (particularly the subculture of young, educated, middle-class people in the area of a big city). I'm devoutly religious, which is particularly unusual for for a young, educated, middle class person near a big city in the West, & which reduces my options to almost nothing. On top of that, I've held onto my parents' va…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:34 AM
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I would say that it's owed in that it's the polite thing to do (as long as he's been polite & respectful, of course), though on a personal level I've been rejected that way (& in other ways) by women so much that I've become used to it. I tend to blame myself for not being inherently attractive enough or for not trying hard enough, rather than her, though I do my best to move on & to try to find another woman to talk to or something else to do ASAP.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 04:57 PM
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She's a nice Christian girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 12:02 AM
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What does the 🙈 emoji mean from a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 09:33 PM
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Should I try to be friendly with her like nothing happened, apologize for making things awkward, or withdraw from all but the most necessary interaction from her for the next little bit?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 09:03 PM
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Update: the cutie from my Bible study has stopped responding to my messages :'( At this point it's pretty obvious that she doesn't want to date me. I still want to stay on good terms with her, though. We're probably going to run into each other in person at Bible study soon & I don't want to make things weird for her. What do I do now?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 08:32 PM
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Question for women attracted to men who don't ask men out but rather wait for them to ask you out: do you do anything to show your interest in a guy? If so, what (e.g. intense eye contact, touching his arm, hinting at a date without outright saying so, &c.)?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 01:48 AM
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Question for women who are attracted to men: when you're communicating by text message, DM, or some other text based medium with a guy that you're interested in romantically, do you write in a significantly different way than you would with a guy who you aren't interested in romantically? If so, what do you do in particular? Longer messages? More emojis? More effort to keep the conversation going?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 11:23 PM
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I'd choose B. It differs very little from my actual life. If he's a virgin for religious reasons like myself, then he still has a chance (though if I'm still alone at 30 I'd take serious action, such as paying for Christian Mingle, or moving to an area which is more conservative or which has more options).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 05:03 AM
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Just because someone close to their 30s hasn't had a formal romantic relationship doesn't mean that they don't know how to effectively communicate, make effort, or compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:00 PM
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I think that there is hardly any overlap.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 04:16 PM
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How exactly do you treat a guy that you want to potentially date?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 11:27 PM
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Ok. I've already traded a few compliments with the girl I'm eyeing at the moment, so I guess we're off to a good start.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 07:43 PM
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OK. I imagine that behaviour is subdued within a social circle? I don't pick women up at bars &c. (I'm devoutly religious & looking for a wife). I meet women either on dating apps or by being part of the same (church-centered) social group.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 07:38 PM
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I don't think I really know how to flirt. I'm diagnosed with NVLD, similar to Asperger's/autism. I'm naturally slow on my feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 07:30 PM
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Do you ask women out at all? If so, what signs do they have to show you before you do so?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 06:25 PM
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Q4M: Do you you usually ask out women on dates who are friendly with you but not overtly flirty? If so, how often do these women say yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 06:17 PM
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I thought that most communists in your part of the world (eastern Europe) are predominantly old, rural/small town people without college or uni degrees who are socially conservative & Russian or pro-Russian?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 11:20 PM
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It's undeniably true.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:58 PM
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Religious/conservative women generally prefer or even demand a man who's a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:06 AM
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OP said that "Compatibility Was the Biggest Factor", specifying that these "high-value" couples "share similar personalities, values, and long-term goals". A woman who has a similar personality, values, & long-term goals to me believes that the man should be the head of the household, enthusiastically wants 2+ kids ASAP, is genuinely looking forward to being a mom, is willing to sacrifice her career & other ambitions for our family's sake, &, unless she adopted her conservative beliefs later in …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 01:51 AM
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What about Europeans who are from countries that never had empires?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 08:03 AM
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How can a man with autism or a similar condition avoid being seen as creepy by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:59 AM
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I'm diagnosed with NVLD (similar to autism). What exactly are some of those choosing signals?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:57 AM
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Subjugation isn't necessarily a bad thing, though. You subjugate yourself to the government every time you stop at a red light, for instance. (That being said, I agree with your overall point).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 11:09 PM
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What if he waits until you're already in a relationship/have been dating for months before asking about body count?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 01:17 AM
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I can't speak for other men. On dating apps, I myself am quite clear about being socio-politically conservative (usually I select "moderate" or "centrist" but explain in my bio that I'm centrist on economic issues but conservative on social issues), Christian, & wanting kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:42 PM
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I agree that women who fornicate with you are lame.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 07:15 AM
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Would you privatize roads, electricity, sanitation, &c.?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 02:33 AM
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This right here should be the bare minimum TBH.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:27 AM
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Technically, it's possible to wear long, wool skirts + thick tights. That's what women did in the past & what some very religious women do today.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:24 AM
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A truly chaste person doesn't have sex outside of marriage at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:18 AM
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-As you said, good cook & in shape are obvious -Devoutly Christian in the same way I am (many of the following points are directly related to or at least correlated with this point) -Similar political beliefs to me (so hard-right compared to society around us) -Wants a big family, wants to be a SAHM -Virgin (unless she was raped, I obviously won't hold that against her) -Like to be treated like a lady BUT not greedy or materialistic -no hard drugs, no psychedelics, never gets drunk -Absolutely n…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:02 AM
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They literally do have to live up to their values to be devout. That's what the word means! Lots of people just vote for Trump because they think Republican policies are less bad than Democrat policies on the federal level, & many more people aren't American at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:22 AM
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No mainstream interpretation of any major religion teaches that men can pervert women or children as they please.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:16 AM
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I don't think that patriarchal conservative and religious communities as a whole are generally more lenient on males then females when it comes to sexual rule breaking. Women losing their virginity before marriage or cheating on their husbands may tend to be taken more seriously than men doing so, but at the same time men having sex with other men tends to be taken more seriously than women having sex with women. In Puritan New England, for instance, a woman who fooled around before marriage was…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 12:52 AM
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There are many different interpretations of "Conservative values". Judaism, Buddhism, Christianity, & numerous other religions are *not* more lenient on men fucking around; the mainstream, traditional interpretations of these religions forbid sex outside of marriage to men just as strictly as they do for women (OK, some interpretations of Judaism allow concubinage, but this is heavily debated by Jewish scholars, is not & never seems to have been customary for religious Jews, & in any traditional…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 11:45 PM
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I'm absolutely not OK with that. I only want her deriving sexual pleasure from *me*, & only once we're married.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 06:43 AM
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The comment you're responding to specified *unchecked immigration*. Your personal anecdote doesn't justify unchecked immigration. My parents are immigrants & I believe that current immigration rates are way too high, & many other immigrants & children of immigrants I know agree with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 06:04 AM
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IIRC Hungary's child tax benefits are all either specifically for the mother or can be shared by the mother & her husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 06:01 AM
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Hungary's TFR has gone up, just not to replacement level.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:57 AM
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There's no denying that there was more stigma around it in the past than there is today. It's also verifiably true that it was banned at some times & some places, & that safe, effective, & legal birth control wasn't available like it is today.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:27 PM
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All of Western Europe during the middle ages.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 05:08 AM
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Nothing in your comment contradicts anything in my comment. There was massive variation across Europe & North America over the centuries. In some times & places, all sex outside of marriage was strictly illegal, whereas in others prostitution was explicitly legal & regulated. How clear these laws were & how strictly enforced they were in various situations also varied massively. Even in times & places where prostitution was legal, it was always, without exception, officially decried as sinful. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 07:53 PM
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Technically, most couples could afford having one bread winner, but that bread winner would have to work 60+ hours a week (or a particularly stressful or particularly dangerous job) for them to have a middle-class lifestyle, & even then they'd probably have a noticeably lower material standard of living than their peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 11:33 PM
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Even then, men where expected to do the heaviest outdoor labour, while women were expected to do all or almost all of the cooking, cleaning, & childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 11:29 PM
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The majority of the population in pretty much all agricultural societies for several millennia.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 11:28 PM
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Housework is labour. Before the industrial revolution, it really was rare in the West for married women with kids to work for money outside the home. On farms, there tended to be fairly strict gendered division of labour. Wealth-making agriculture production was mostly men's work, whereas virtually all cooking, cleaning, & childcare was done by women. Even when much of the population moved to factory labour, the majority of married women with kids continued to stay at home. In Canada & the US, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 11:22 PM
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Primary historical sources, as well as academic papers. To a certain extent it's common knowledge; everyone who knows anything about the West before the 1960s knows that sex outside of marriage was heavily stigmatized, & that safe, effective, & legal birth control of the sort we have today hardly existed. Just about every US state outlawed fornication, adultery, & sodomy until such laws slowly started getting repealed in the 1960s, & they generally banned or heavily restricted contraception as w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 11:07 PM
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Men saw such women as sluts, too. The authorities who punished women for sexual misbehaviour were almost all men (at least in the West). This arrangement ensured that the price of sex was kept at it's true (high) value.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 06:23 PM
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OP isn't asking to literally move backwards in time, just to change dating norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 06:14 PM
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Yes, amen! That's exactly what us devoutly religious people have been advocating for & practicing for millennia.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 06:14 PM
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Marriage has probably existed for as long as homo sapiens have. Almost all societies, including isolated tribes of hunter-gatherers, practice marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 06:12 PM
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There was a more than 1000 year period in the West when sex outside of marriage was heavily stigmatized, sometimes even outlawed. Don't forget that safe, effective, & legal birth control hardly existed in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 06:07 PM
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70 or more years ago, it was less socially stigmatized much more than nowadays, physically much riskier due to much less option for effective contraception, & downright illegal everywhere in America (IIRC).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 06:05 PM
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Yes, absolutely! I've already lived according to this standard for my entire life, as have most of my friends & family. I don't think it's necessary to go back to 19th century style courtship, or even to only go on dates with one person at a time. When it was a universal social norm to wait until marriage, options weren't narrow because, well, it was a universal social norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 06:03 PM
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That's why I specifically noted that it's not a need for a minority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 07:23 AM
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It's an emotional need for everyone (except for the minority of people truly called to a celibacy), but at the same time sex should be limited to marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:35 AM
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Some women desperately want sex, but abstain before marriage for religious reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:33 AM
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As a man, I believe that most people need sex to be fully happy (it may not technically be a need like food or water, but for most people it's an emotional need), & I'd also prefer a woman who's a virgin (or at least hasn't had much sex before). I don't see anything hypocritical with my stance, because I believe that sex should be limited to marriage. I believe that both men & women generally need sex, while both men & women should abstain from sex outside of marriage. There's absolutely no logi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:27 AM
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Hatred for lots of things is routinely routed in misandry. Whether or not some people have weird reasons for hating something has almost no relevance to how good or bad that thing actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 06:01 AM
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As opposed to the loudest supporters of porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:56 AM
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"Sex negative" is such a ridiculous way of describing our beliefs. We appreciate & enjoy sex in a normal, healthy, & meaningful way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 05:55 AM
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I never said that was easy, but there's absolutely no denying that it was legally possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 01:07 AM
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Every state except for South Carolina has allowed women to initiate divorce without having to take up residency in a different state since the 19th century AFAIK.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 12:58 AM
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I know that it wasn't always easy, but it was definitely possible. The comment I responded to stated in "America at least, it’s only since about the 1960s and onward that women could independently own property and initiate divorce proceedings", which is flat out wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 11:44 PM
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True, I should've said "most of the non-slave population".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 04:46 PM
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It's simply a traditional middle-class life updated by modern technology. In the past a housewife was helped by a maid; nowadays she receives roughly the same amount of help from washing machines, vacuum cleaners, being able to buy ready-made clothes, &c. What's consistent about traditional roles throughout history in sedentary societies is that the man primarily focuses on making money & the woman primarily focuses on housework. In agrarian societies, both the man & women did back-breaking labo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 04:39 PM
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American women have been able to initiate divorce since long before the 1960s. They just couldn't divorce *for no reason*, & neither could men. In the past it was legally harder for women to divorce than men, but by the mid-20th century in America women could divorce on exactly the same fault-based grounds as men AFAIK (1925 here in Canada).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 04:28 PM
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By that standard, most of the population in 18th century colonial America was already middle class because most of them were farmers who owned their own land (as opposed to England where most farmers were landless).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 04:24 PM
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I hope that we all agree that it's a good thing for young children to go to elementary school instead of working full-time. The fact is that plenty of women are happy to be a housewife even if their husband can't or won't hire a maid or cleaner. Obviously, modern technology significantly lowers the domestic workload, so I'm not sure that such women necessarily do more work than a middle class housewife of 200 years ago. Many women also like to have a part time job on top housewife, especially at…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 04:19 PM
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None (never been in a relationship).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 01:05 AM
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Very few people in general went to college by today's standards. By the 1950s, women could study just like men. My point is that not every woman who disagrees with you has "bad pussy management". Yeah, lack of money/access to money & social pressure were some factors that played a role in keeping women in abusive marriages, but I doubt that lack of cars in & of itself was a factor. Women without cars flee abusive homes all the time. (Men who buy cars for their wives & generally provide for their…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 09:20 AM
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Women absolutely went to college before the Sexual Revolution & before modern birth control. Lots of women oppose the Sexual Revolution because they think it was bad for society as a whole. It's ridiculous to think that every single one of them had "bad pussy management". Modern society effectively requires women to have sex on extramarital "relationships". It wasn't the norm for middle-class women in the 1950s in Western countries to be constantly pregnant (most had 2-4 kids IIRC). In Canada & …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 08:18 AM
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I don't want to literally travel back in time, though I'd happily undo the sexual revolution. I think that sex outside of marriage is immoral & that abortion should be outlawed. My options in the 1950s here in Canada would actually have been greater than they are today since the progressivism of 2024 Canada is the main factor limiting my options.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 07:53 AM
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Your comment did specify /men/. Biological males can't reproduce. Ukraine is in a state of emergency due to being invaded, & their law forbids election during a state of emergency. They're also highly corrupt (including the electoral system & the military itself) & poor by Western standards. Israel has conscripted women since it's foundation as a modern state, in fact they're probably the biggest & most notable conscriptor of women. Israeli society also strongly pushes women to reproduce to make…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 12:18 AM
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None, & that's entirely besides the point. The obligation is for *fertile, married* people, whereas Jesus never married. Under the strict moral code which Jesus, in his own words "came not to abolish, but to fulfill", a life of celibacy is the only valid alternative to marriage, & marriage must contain openness to life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 11:55 PM
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Jesus upheld a traditional moral code which includes the obligation to reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 07:22 PM
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Majority of women where? Liberal-democracies don't generally have conscription, & countries with conscription are often dictatorships. Only a minority of women live in countries in which both a) male-only conscription is actively enforced, & b) ordinary women people can participate in regular, competitive, free, & fair elections.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 06:59 PM
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Women have no obligation to pair up, though married couples are obligated to reproduce unless they're prevented from doing so for medical reasons. Both men & women, generally speaking, have a biological imperative to marry & have kids. Only a minority of people are *truly* meant to stay celibate forever, or are unable to have kids due to them or their spouse having fertility issues. Keeping the birth rate up is also an important reason. I'd say that fertile married couples have an obligation to …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 06:43 PM
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Well, I'm devoutly religious. I'm mostly likely to meet a compatible girl at church or through church-related social circles. It would be weird for a girl to come onto a guy in such a setting quite as strongly as she would if she were looking for a stranger to hookup with at a bar. I suppose things like her going out of her way to be around me, or to talk to me, or her making slightly more eye contact than normal could be a sign in any setting (but then again, she could be just be getting used t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:53 AM
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Question for men who are successful with women: How differently do women who want to date you act from women who don't want to date you but like you as a friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 04:11 AM
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It's not dramatically different among devoutly religious people. I see couples who met in church marry young all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 03:52 PM
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It's definitely not the sole reason, though it absolutely does perpetuate men's dating struggles. Obviously, most men can't attain that standard, & most women can't get commitment from such a man. Most women in their 20s are capable of being skinny or slim thick, though of course most will be average or below average looking once you adjust for age & weight. Of course it's absurd to want a woman who doesn't have a high n count but will quickly put out. In my case, I have much bigger dating probl…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 04:42 AM
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A huge portion if the married people I know met at church, including my parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:29 AM
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Asking someone out you know from church or volunteering is perfectly normal. Religious people tend to find their spouse this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:29 AM
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I'm a religious guy & I go for sweet, modest women. Many of the other religious guys I know do, to. Most such women I know are married, which in most cases means that at least one religious guy went for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:11 AM
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It's sex, as well as children. My religion forbids sex outside of marriage, & depending on how strictly you interpret things either forbids or discourages masturbation, & those things can't satisfy me like a real marriage can anyways. My male friends can't satisfy my desire for sex with women, & they can't give me a family the way I want. Many women feel the same way I do. Even if they may not generally have as high sex drives as men, they still want a committed relationship which includes sex, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 03:43 AM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 05:55 AM
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What if they're generally self-sufficient (they have their own place & own car, some money saved up, & no debt except for car payment, student loan or mortgage) but happen to be looking for a job at the exact moment you happen to meet them? Would you wait until they get their next job before asking them out?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:29 PM
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I'm struggling to understand how a lazy, dumb, & ambitionless person can be cultured.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:25 PM
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Cave people had to work hard to survive. People in hunter-gatherer societies who don't contribute in accordance with their age, gender, & physical ability are exiled or killed by the tribe. More likely than not, someone who's naturally lazy would work hard anyway if they were socialized in such an environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:20 PM
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You wouldn't date someone who's well educated, competent, & hard working, but currently looking for a job, under any circumstances? Would you break up with someone for losing their job? What about someone who can't work a normal job due to a disability, or becomes disabled to that extent after you start dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:17 PM
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It actually seems me be pretty common for low-status women to date losers who are good looking, sociable, or both. They get knocked up & then abandoned by such men all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:14 PM
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No. Being lazy, gluttonous, or ambitionless are all deal breakers for me. Being hooked on porn is a deal breaker unless perhaps she's actively trying to stop & undergoing some sort of treatment, therapy, or mentorship to help her in that. She'd need to quit completely within the next couple of years or whenever we get married, whichever comes first (though I'm unlikely to wait more than 2 years to marry someone). Messy room is a deal breaker depending on how bad it is. She doesn't need to have c…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 05:11 PM
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Does "borderline" theocratic mean that the alt-right can't be fully theocratic in the traditional sense, & does "abdication of American leadership" mean that they're limited to America?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 08:13 AM
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In what specific areas are the alt-right distinct form classical liberals or constitutional conservatives?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 07:06 AM
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Interesting. I'm more or less the opposite. I'm devoutly religious & very socially conservative when it comes to politics, but I live in a strongly liberal area of Canada. I missed out on the young conservative marriage & have been struggling since (the few attractive right-wing women in my area mostly seem to married already).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 10:49 PM
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Trad men generally put lots of importance on sex within marriage. They tend to believe that couples have a duty to give each other sex. Christian, Jewish, & Muslim trad men wait for marriage, but European & Middle Eastern pagan men in the past (at least the high status ones) additionally could have tons of casual sex before & even during marriage with no guilt or shame; those cultures/religions only required *women* to save themselves for marriage or to be sexually exclusive with their spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:35 AM
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It was the norm throughout history, but it involved near constant intense labour by todays standards before modern appliances were invented. Depending on the specific time & place, peasant wives in agricultural societies may have had side-hustles & may have participated to a limited extent in agricultural work (working in the garden while the man worked further out in the fields, or participating in the fields herself during the busiest parts of planting & harvesting), but their main job was to …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 04:15 AM
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I don't see significant questioning of those things on a societal level.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 09:06 PM
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It's interesting that few "educated" young people in big cities seem willing to question deliberate childlessness, modern notions of dating & sexuality, large scale government intervention in the economy, or a secular worldview🤔 (For the record, I'm in favour of socialism & secularism within certain constraints.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 07:20 PM
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I agree, though it's a good thing. Decreasing access to abortion is praiseworthy, not blameworthy. On Reddit & other largely left-wing spaces, the general pattern I've seen is that hate is directed towards men who aren't liberal minded & towards conservative women, *not* towards liberal-minded men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 05:16 PM
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Public views on abortion are broadly similar across America & Europe, i.e. people generally agree that that abortion should be easily available in the first trimester but heavily restricted later on. This centrist view is more or less reflected in abortion laws in most of Europe, where most countries allow abortion but with stricter restrictions than Roe v Wade would've allowed, while for whatever reason (maybe the 2-party system?) America is divided between strongly pro-abortion & anti-abortion…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:35 AM
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What you describe as "hyper traditionalist" is still the norm in much of the former Eastern Bloc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:25 AM
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All of it? I don't think most people from the Donbass see their region as the best place on Earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:23 AM
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Are you really sure that Europe as a whole is significantly more lax with sex than America? I doubt that the average person from rural Poland would see Los Angeles as sexually puritanical.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:21 AM
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I'd be baffled if "Europe" includes former communist countries. I'm an ethnically Hungarian man, & I doubt that South Korean men are most sexist than us.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 03:14 AM
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It's indisputably far-left by historic or global standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 08:45 PM
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Consenting to sex naturally leads to pregnancy, & driving without a seat belt is both illegal (in many, probably most places) & objectively stupid (at least at high speed or on busy roads). It's absurd to compare these things to merely not pushing health measures forcefully or getting bullied. That being said, it's fair to say that people are responsible for getting far or being assholes (in most cases). Elective abortion, unless necessary to save the mom's life, is devoid of humanity & reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 08:37 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/24 08:30 PM
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Correlation does not equal causation. Those states had bad maternal mortality figures under Roe v Wade as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/24 04:08 PM
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Most pregnancies don't threaten the life of the mother. Do you seriously not understand the moral difference between deliberately wounding someone & the natural process of being born?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 06:19 PM
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It isn't murder to do what's necessary to save a life. Shooting a home invader isn't murder, & neither is ending an ectopic pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:46 PM
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Cowardly or evil doctors do that contrary to the law. Those who don't commit intentional homicide have nothing to fear. Lawmakers don't have total control over every individual doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:43 PM
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The hospitals & doctors responsible should be punished for (deliberately?) misinterpreting the law. Whatever the solution is, legally sanctioning unjustified homicide against children isn't it. It seems that the situation is massively blown out of proportion by the left. Regardless of what left-wing propaganda says, miscarriages are legally *not* considered to be intentional abortion in any state.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:40 PM
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It's an undisputable fact that miscarriages are *not* legally considered intentional abortion in any state. Intentional homicide is not healthcare. There are countless potential causes for a rise in maternal deaths. Correlation doesn't equal causation, & anti-abortion legislators aren't responsible for cowardly, stupid, or unscrupulous doctors illegally (deliberately?) misinterpreting the law. Edit: I have trouble finding people with compatible values. None of the women I could've had a relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:35 PM
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Pretty much everyone agrees that murder is wrong but killing in self defence is OK. By your logic, this means that pretty much no one believes in murder, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:30 PM
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It's far left when it comes to social issues (abortion, DEI, LGBT, &c.).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 05:13 PM
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No state bans miscarriages, only *intentional* abortion. Stop spreading misinformation. My mom has had 4 miscarriages, & she's the one who raised me to be anti-abortion because she, like the people who write anti-abortion laws, understands the difference between intentional homicide & a medical tragedy outside of your control.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:59 PM
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Actually, I would think that you invited your arm to be broken if you drove without a seat belt (I just wouldn't say it to your face because I wouldn't want to be rude). Pregnancy is the natural consequence of PIV sex. It's quite literally why sex exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:28 PM
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The vast majority of us anti-abortion people (including myself) support abortion when necessary to save the woman's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:27 PM
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I'm unlikely to find someone with broadly the same political views as me in my area. People who I align with politically tend to be male, old, married, lack formal higher education, or live in different areas than me, so I'm unlikely to hit it off with a woman who shares my politics unless I meet her far from home. I'm open to dating someone who's on the other side but not too extreme, though I'm skeptical.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 04:25 PM
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I'm not OK with it, but I'm even less OK with any other option.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 11:41 PM
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No, I just vote for whoever I think has better policy. Politics is generally a dirty game of choosing the lesser evil in which one can't afford to be too scrupulous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 11:14 PM
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Women should lower their financial/social status standards when it comes to marrying & having kids, while ceasing to have sex or children outside of marriage altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:52 PM
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Do you think that all Trump voters are misogynist & racist, even those who are women or non-white?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:36 PM
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He doesn't want to take away basic human rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 08:30 PM
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Many (most?) of us are going to keep voting for the right no matter what the consequences are, because we're motivated by deeply held principles.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:17 AM
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I'm a (not rich but middle-class) straight, white, Christian, right-wing male. How is it against my interests to vote for the major right-wing candidate?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 07:15 AM
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People who have a similar level of schooling as me tend to have vastly different values & goals from me. In my experience, it's people with less schooling who tend to think similarly to me. My drive & ambition almost entirely revolve around a) religion, & 2) my future family. A woman who has the same sort of drive & ambition is going to refuse to have sex outside of marriage, seek to get married young, hope to have a big family, believe that the man should be the head of the household, & see sch…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 09:19 PM
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I know many women who stay or stayed at home with 3, 4, or more kids in happy marriages. The men in these marriages don't or didn't all have high paying professional jobs. Personally I think it's fine for women to have advanced schooling & careers, but between the extremely limited choices given by OP, I think the "trad" option is less bad. I'm on my way (God willing) to a high paying professional job & I don't care how much formal schooling a woman has. Maybe by the time I'm fully established i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 08:09 PM
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Going by the definitions provided by the OP, I'd rather raise my daughters to be traditional women. I want them to have the opportunity for a good marriage, which is pretty much impossible for a modern woman (going by the OP's definition). I don't want them to die childless & alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 07:33 PM
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Because it aligns with their religion, they love their husband, they want to be a housewife, they want a big family, or a combination of the above. I could just as easily ask why anyone would want to be a modern woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 07:23 PM
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*Some Redpill men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 07:13 PM
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Given these 2 options, I'd rather be a "trad wife" than a "modern woman", though I think that your definitions of both terms are overly strict.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 12:15 PM
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I actually do want a submissive woman, because my faith demands it. I'd love to have a 50s tradwife TBH. I isn't necessary for her to be sexually submissive all the time, though of course I do think that regular sex is an important part of a healthy marriage. Before marriage she must clearly articulate that she believes that the man should be in charge when it comes to marriage. Practically, this means that I'll have ultimate decision making power when it comes to big decisions that affect both …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 02:18 AM
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I'm 26. I'm willing to date 18-36, though I prefer 20-25. Hopefully I find someone soon & become bonded with her to the point that I'll always find her attractive, or that I'll always be attracted to women close to me in age. I prefer youth first & foremost because of fertility, not aesthetics. I am in panic mode right now, desperately trying to marry a woman & give her lots of babies ASAP. I've been trying & failing to find a wife since I was 21 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 03:11 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 05:53 PM
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I grew up in what most on this subreddit would probably consider a "tradcon" household, & my parents (especially my mom) warned me from a young age about greedy or otherwise immoral women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 05:52 PM
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Tradcons generally warn about bad women, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:27 AM
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Those two categories together include almost every man who's ever lived.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 01:25 AM
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I don't hate any individual person (or at least I try not to lol), but I hate slutty behaviour & the kind of worldview that accepts sluttiness. I'm disgusted by sluts. I'm OK having them as friends, but probably not close friends, & I wouldn't date them (this is all assuming that I know that they're a slut). I *might* date a former slut, though probably not. Going by what they've told me & how they've behaved around me, my male friends generally see things the same way I do, i.e. they hate slutt…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 04:05 PM
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That depends on how you define "traditional woman". I'm a religious virgin & I want a woman who shares my values. My faith forbids sex outside of marriage, & demands that the man be the head of the household. Many would consider this "traditional", but I tend to avoid the label because I don't want to be associated with the online "traditional" crowd which I see at too extreme (even though I'm far-right myself by the standards of society around me!)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 05:58 AM
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Sex is (potentially) a product of a good relationship. The ultimately successful premarital romantic "relationship" leads to marriage, which necessarily includes sex (with few exceptions). A couple who naturally love & respect each other will naturally *want* to make each other cum. Marriage is a prerequisite for sex, though sex is an essential part of a marriage (unless it's medically impossible, or perhaps if they're both elderly & both OK with not having it).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/24 12:17 AM
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I never said that she's like a fantasy. Her profile looks the same as that of other genuinely religious girls I've gone on dates with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:31 PM
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I don't know exactly what she means by "redpilled", though. It could be more of a political thing, since her profile also says that she's conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:28 PM
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Why should I assume that she, specifically, is on Onlyfans?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:27 PM
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Interesting 🤔 Why exactly do you think she wants to bait me into Onlyfans?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:21 PM
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How so? Please expand on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:17 PM
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Sounds like we're made for each other lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:17 PM
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Are you sure? This is on a Christian dating app. She describes herself as conservative & Baptist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:16 PM
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Of course!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:13 PM
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It might be more political than dating-related on her end, though, since her profile also says that she's conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:12 PM
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I matched with a woman on a dating app who said that she's redpilled on her profile. Thoughts?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:10 PM
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Not Protestants (except perhaps migrant workers in the Gulf States, though I haven't seen solid numbers for those & I think they're mostly male).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 04:00 PM
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That's not what I said at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:48 PM
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Of course. I know that they're a minority, & among that minority almost none of them are Protestant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:46 PM
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Going only by the definitions your provided, with all else being equal, I'd go with "Middle East". I think that formal education is overrated, & the more formal education a woman has, the less likely she is to have compatible values with me. I also think that the modern "women's rights" movement has gone too far. Women who follow 4th wave progressivism or are sexually progressive are vastly incompatible with me. I'd ideally prefer a women who's 25 or younger. I'm religious, most Westerners would…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 01:00 AM
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I'm not sure what your point is. My point was that housewives *should* get deference & praise, which they do indeed get if they have good people in their lives. Women are not the only ones making the sacrifices. I never said that men "deserve all the deference and praise". In many cases, men work far harder for money if they have or want to have a family than they otherwise would.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:32 PM
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It's good for the kids to have a stay at home mom, regardless of how the man makes money. Making sacrifices for your family is praise & deference worthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 04:29 AM
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Religious women also tend to want kids too, though, so that doesn't seem to be part of the trend OP is talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 01:38 AM
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I have lots of male acquaintances, but no best friends. Many of these guys currently have girlfriends or wives; virtually all of them have had a girlfriend in the past even if they're currently single. I have female acquaintances, but no best friends. I have no siblings. I get along well with my cousins & other family members, though I have little real-life interaction with those who live on different continents from mine, which is most of them. I have no trouble making acquaintances, though I c…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 06:34 AM
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Absolutely, in fact it's probably the main reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 07:53 AM
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That's useless for me because I'm deeply religious, so both myself & the women I'm compatible with don't have sex outside of marriage, get drunk, or do illicit drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 10:40 PM
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My parents forced me to be social & do sports at a young age, & yet at 26, I've never had a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 10:24 PM
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I was thinking of dating down in terms of education or social class, which doesn't necessarily correspond to a big gap in income.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 07:49 PM
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Yes, but I don't see women who work hard at their job when they're single but would like to be a SAHM some day as less ambitious then women who want a career even with kids, or who don't want kids at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:49 PM
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When I say that I don't care about a woman's career, income, or status, I mean that those things don't affect my attraction to her, those things don't play a big role in my decision to date or marry her, & that I'd prefer for her to stay at home with the kids. That being said, of course I value ambition, diligence, & intelligence, & am exited for/will brag to others about her accomplishments that are important to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:48 PM
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Is that even the case if you're willing to date down?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:44 PM
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It's possible for someone to have drive, ambition, & goals, to be extremely intelligent, to work, diligently, or to overcome a lot of adversity without being career-oriented.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:37 PM
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IDK why so many want it. Maybe it's more popular than it otherwise would be because of porn. I'd be very happy to have an LTR with a woman who says that she abhors the idea, in fact I'd prefer it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:37 PM
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What if you're against sex outside of marriage for religious reasons? Sexualizing conversations doesn't sound like a good strategy to found a deeply religious wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 07:00 AM
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I have NVLD (similar to autism). IDK if I'm capable of flirting like normal people :/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 06:56 AM
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They're both evil regardless of what the state says.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 02:45 PM
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It's evil because it's committing homicide without a valid reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 02:44 PM
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There are plenty of unjust laws. Race-based chattel slavery was legal not too long ago in much of the world, for instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 02:42 PM
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IDK, though I'm inclined to believe that they go to heaven. Abortion (except when necessary to save life) is unspeakably evil regardless of that, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:54 AM
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What makes you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:52 AM
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I, for one, just don't like people having sex outside of marriage. Single motherhood is *always* preferable to abortion, however. The woman in this case is well within her rights to divorce him & raise the child alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 07:37 AM
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The primary reason I was so successful dating, was because I had numerous, vast, social circles. Serious question: how did you do this exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:53 AM
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Nothing hypocritical about it. "You can't support legislating morality under any circumstances because some countries you don't like legislate morality" is a deranged take.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:48 AM
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To be fair, Ukrainian men are largely not punished for domestic violence regardless of what the law says. (This is a problem across the former Soviet world in general; I don't mean to pick on Ukraine specifically).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:46 AM
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Are you forgetting about all the civilians killed &/or raped?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 05:42 AM
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I'm autistic. Being a chill & normal dude isn't really an option for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 06:08 AM
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I looked through your post history. Not gonna lie, if you were Christian & weren't pro LGBT, I'd send you a message to potentially start a chaste courtship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 06:40 PM
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Where did you too meet?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 03:21 AM
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I know plenty of happy couples who started dating when the man was broke (my mom supported my dad financially through school when they were newlyweds, for instance, though now he's the breadwinner). It's entirely possible to have a good life later on after tough financial times early in the marriage (think about doctors or lawyers who are broke students in their 20s but are wealthy when they retire), in fact that seems to be very common among the people I know. That being said, people are entitl…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:38 AM
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Men can choose to wait, too!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:13 AM
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*it works on some women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:04 AM
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It's very wrong to assume that people who don't believe in sex outside of marriage don't want sex. For the most part, they have to exercise enormous self control to resist their desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:03 AM
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Nothing in life is guaranteed. That doesn't change the fact that promiscuity is a bad idea. Women who want a good husband are more likely to get that if they don't sleep sleep around.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:01 AM
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Are you seriously denying the existence of happy couples?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:38 PM
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For me it's a bit of both. I'm what many PPDers would consider "traditional" & I strive to be pure, but I'm also insecure about being compared to other men. My insecurity tends to make hate myself, not women, though I like to think that I'm not as insecure as I used to be (I'm certainly trying on that front).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:42 PM
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I know plenty of women who are #winning.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:32 PM
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Staying loyal through difficult circumstances (unless your spouse cheats on or otherwise abuses you) is part of being a good person, regardless of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:31 PM
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From my perspective as a conservative man, it's virtuous to be content with your lot in life. If course I want to give my wife the best life possible, but it's not the end of the world if we're not rich. It's very fair for a woman who doesn't work for money to expect her husband to pay all the bills, though she must be content with the amount of money he makes. I'd ideally prefer a virgin for both reasons. I don't believe in sex outside of marriage, & I also want to be her best. Religion is the …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:26 PM
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Unironically yes, as long as we're talking about before marriage. Both men & women benefit from good sex, genuine love, & deep companionship. Except for a minority of psychologically unusual people, all of these things are emotional needs in a marriage. The "need" for sex is no less valuable or justifiable than the "need" for love or companionship. On the contrary, sex should be limited to marriage because it's so valuable & justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:53 PM
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Frankly, that's how non-marital relationships should work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:39 PM
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Maybe most men are like that, but not all. In the religious circles I'm in, men are taught that it's their duty to please their wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:32 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:41 PM
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Sounds like you may be less open-minded than you think you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 06:45 AM
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Many women are happy being financially dependent, including my own mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:47 AM
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In societies where subsistence agriculture was the norm, the heaviest agricultural work was, as a rule, done by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:37 AM
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For much of the White American middle class (Redditors tend to be part of that group), life really was a lot better better 30+ years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:36 AM
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It's not so bad if you have relatives nearby or if you're part of a religious community of some sort.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:33 AM
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I've never encountered such a view among right wingers.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:32 AM
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Would you let a men spend more than $15 if you knew that he isn't willing to have sex before marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:11 AM
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Unfathomably based!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:07 AM
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Waiting for marriage makes things so much better for everyone TBH.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:57 AM
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Plenty of women I know (including my own mom) chose to be dependent on a man & have had a wonderful lives of being provided for as part of a mutually fulfilling relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:55 AM
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Interesting. I'm a guy & my parents taught me to always pay for dates, or at least for first dates. Splitting the bill is always something I've associated with progressivism & feminism. OTOH they've always been skeptical of the amount of money North Americans spend on restaurants. They themselves never had expensive restaurant dates when they were getting to know each other. They got married in 1980s Romania, where, according to them, only the Communist party elite had the means to frequent fanc…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:55 AM
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That's true, but by "reasonable" I didn't mean morally valid, I meant likely to find someone who's willing to accept your terms. A former slut who becomes religious is likely going to be turned down by many religious guys (which is why she'll likely* have to keep her standards low), though those religious guys who do accept her will of course want to wait till marriage. Secular women, OTOH, can't reasonably* expect to find a man willing to wait until marriage. *of course there are isolated excep…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:41 PM
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"I had lots of casual sex, but no want to wait till marriage" is reasonable if you genuinely became religious & keep your standards low in other areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:17 PM
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Maybe some people are naturally assholes, & for them, being relaxed takes lots of energy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:04 PM
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IDK, I accept a great deal of responsibility for my situation & yet I still feel jaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:31 PM
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PPD is not a good representation of normal people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:05 PM
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Introverts aren't necessarily shy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:03 PM
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Where I live, a 28 year old who makes little above minimum wage wouldn't have his own apartment unless his parents helped him buy it or he somehow made lots of money when he was younger but is now at a lower paying job.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:01 PM
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Serious question: is he neurodivergent?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:18 AM
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She seems upper-middle class to me. She's in touch with both of her parents, though I don't know if they're still together. IDK how much she drinks or whether or not she's into drugs. She seems like the intellectual type. She became more interested in Christianity recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:51 PM
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The girl I'm thinking of seems well off but doesn't come across as a brat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:46 PM
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The girl I'm thinking of is Ukrainian.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:54 AM
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If an attractive, single young woman travels a lot & goes to nightclubs (at least occasionally with friends), is it fair to assume that she's likely had casual sex or likely has a high n-count?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 06:13 AM
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Mary, as long as she's willing to have sex at least once a week (except for medical reasons or because of a huge catastrophe), & I might not be willing to send $50 every month to her family. None of the other women meet my minimum standards for a wife. I may be willing to go on a few dates with such a woman if I'm highly attracted to her, though we wouldn't work out long term unless she changes massively.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 06:59 AM
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It's already been a few hours. I'm asking more about the pace of the conversation towards an actual date.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:15 AM
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A girl I'm acquaintances with but haven't seen in a while just responded to my DM. Should I ask her out quickly or rather take things slow with casual conversation? (Keep in mind that I have NVLD, which impairs social functioning similarly to autism).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:10 AM
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I haven't completely given up hope yet, but I'm trying to prepare myself to move on if necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:45 AM
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I don't want nudes, but I'll drop her if she doesn't write back.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 12:40 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:09 PM
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Update: after more than 24 hours, the girl I messaged has yet to respond. Looks like I'll have to cut my losses :'(
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 09:02 PM
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Is every relationship in which the wife acknowledges the leadership of the husband tradcon to you, or do you only count those marriages in which the wife stays at home?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 09:53 PM
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Do you think it's possible for a tradcon relationship to be healthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:42 AM
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Faith in Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:31 AM
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By "reach out" do you mean send a text message, DM, &c.?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 04:52 AM
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Almost nothing could make me stop approaching women. I'm too young to give up, & there's hardly anything I want more in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 04:47 PM
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For me, finding a mate still means the survival of my people, so it's very much life and death for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:43 PM
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It's literally not possible for me to manufacture my social life in such a way that there is no shortage of (suitable) women (short of, perhaps, moving to a different country, which I'm hesitant to do because then there'll be no one to care for my parents in their old age) because my strict political & religious views make me incompatible with the vast majority of women around me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:42 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:38 PM
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In strict, religious societies that valued fertility, men were virtually guaranteed wives. This is still the case among groups such as the Amish.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:36 PM
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Bruh I'm literally autistic. I don't think I have full mental capacity to read the room like normal people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:35 PM
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I already do that 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:19 PM
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I'm what many would consider a mediocre man, & I've declined to pursue women who I considered hot simply because of their political or religious views.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 03:39 AM
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Did you "spend more time together" by asking her to hang out in some way without using the word "date"?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:04 AM
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In the past I wasn't open to a woman if she lived in a different city, didn't devoutly follow the exact same form of Christianity as myself, wasn't a virgin, was a liberal/progressive, didn't want a big family, or didn't want to be a housewife. Now, at 26 years old, I've never been on a second date, never kissed a girl, & never even held hands with a girl romantically. I've said no to numerous chances with women because they minutely failed just one point on my long list of standards. I now thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:42 PM
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I've already done that, & I don't think it's reasonable to go any lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:11 AM
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What if I can't find a virgin woman who meets my other standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 06:45 AM
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26M. I live with my parents in a house we co-own. I don't really have close friends. I've never had a second date, & have never kissed or even held hands with a woman in a romantic way. I have NVLD, which impairs my social skills in roughly the same way that high-functioning autism does (I may actually be autistic as well, though I've yet to be formally diagnosed for that like I've been with NVLD). I'm an introvert. I don't truly know how physically attractive I am to women; I guess I'd rate mys…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:18 PM
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I wouldn't date or marry a woman I'm not physically attracted to. I wouldn't marry a woman who isn't a theologically conservative Protestant, doesn't agree that the man should be the head of the household, doesn't want kids, or has political views I consider to be extreme (Nazi, Communist, thinks abortion should be legal, &c.). I'm open to dating a woman who doesn't meet these standards but is willing to change, though we wouldn't last if she doesn't end up changing her views. For example, I mig…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:00 PM
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I know men similar to me who've succeeded, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 07:25 PM
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I disagree with view. Sexual activity is sexual activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:31 PM
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I have no problem dating autist women, I just think that I need to be open to non-autist women, too, because I have such severely limited options.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:22 PM
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I know autist men who are married to non-obese women tho 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:21 PM
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I think I'm going to be awkward & weird forever lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:17 PM
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Incorrect. I know autistic guys married to women who aren't obese, hookers, or mail order brides.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:17 PM
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I'm not giving up yet! Many autist men manage to get relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:15 PM
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I'm already severely limited by my political & religious views. The most rational course of action for me is to shoot my shot with any woman I may think I have a shot with & may think I'm compatible with, even if she's neurotypical or conventionally attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:12 PM
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I've met several openly autistic men who had a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:10 PM
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Plenty of autist men have both relationships & sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:52 PM
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I don't have time to meditate an hour every day, though I do already aim for & usually achieve half an hour of meditation + half an hour of reading spiritual literature most days.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:49 PM
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I'm not ready to give up yet :'( Having a wife & kids is almost the only thing I care about in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:47 PM
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Even in so called "traditional" societies, we're encouraged to be monks or celibate scientists/scholars That's heavily variable; some cultures forbid or discourage celibacy. In strict Jewish, Muslim, & Anabaptist communities, virtually everyone is married off at a young age, autistic or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:46 PM
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Thank you, this sounds like it could be very helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:42 PM
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Your overall point is true & fair, but it's blatantly wrong to claim that *most* people are not equipped to deal with a high-functioning autist. Yes, even level 1, high-functioning people like Elon can be very hard to deal with for a neurotypical, though that's not the case for every individual, just like neurotypicals can be very hard to deal with, though not all of them are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:36 PM
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Unfortunately, it's all theoretical for now, though I hope to get married & have kids soon!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:54 PM
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I already do that, but I go to a small church, & church-hopping just to find a girl seems wrong to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:12 AM
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I can't because we aren't married (& even if we were married, I'm not sure I'd be OK with anal sex).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:11 AM
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Yes, I know. How do I get a wife in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:25 AM
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Can you describe in what ways your personality is more masculine than most men around you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:10 PM
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I'd rather not settle for a gold digger.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 11:01 PM
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nobody on this sub is interested in that I am! (To be fair I'm Canadian, not American, but Canada's even more progressive than America.)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:46 PM
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What am I supposed to do if I refuse to have sex outside of marriage because I'm devoutly religious?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:43 PM
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I don't usually disclose my condition unless I'm specifically asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:42 PM
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Are you muscular or do you just act more masculine than the average guy? If so, what are specific things you do that the average guy doesn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 10:39 PM
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I think a relationship with someone who has the same personality & mannerisms as me would look harmonious & I think it would make me feel great, because I suppose it would be easier for us to relate to each other than if our personalities were very different. I think such a relationship would work. That being said, I would not accept a relationship where the two of us are held to perfectly identical standards because, to a certain extent, I believe in gender roles. Our ability to relate to each …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:44 PM
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It actually would be the hottest sex of my life up to that point, because she'd be my first.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:24 PM
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Right now I'd go with neither, but if I was older, & unable to accept a lifetime of childlessness, loneliness, & virginity, I'd marry #2 just so that I don't die a childless, lonely, virgin. That being said, I hope that, no matter how desperate the situation, I wouldn't settle for #2, but rather come to terms with dying a childless, lonely, virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 05:18 PM
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People *are* inherently evil, though it's nevertheless possible to find a suitable spouse, & most people should do so (or at least try).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:48 AM
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My life raises lots of questions from a relationship perspective outside of that as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:49 AM
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You may be too online if you think every major religion teaches men to be cruel to their girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:57 AM
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What about a dude who has been consistently on dating apps since 2021 with nothing to show for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:56 AM
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I've encountered "you should date them" a lot in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 10:28 PM
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I know, & I think that most modern people are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 10:23 PM
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Is he an introvert? Does he have autism, NVLD, &c.? Does he have religious or political views that are dramatically different from the young women around him? I'm not nearly as attractive as Jake, though I think these are important factors in my own lack of success.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 08:40 PM
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Service to others is how society functions. In marriage specifically, the man has authority over the woman, though only for him to use in service to his family. Depending on exactly how you define your terms, this doesn't necessarily contradict an "equal partnership" at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 08:27 PM
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I don't know if that's true; "date single moms" is very common advice directed towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 08:24 PM
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What do you mean exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 08:23 PM
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Most women can find a good relationship without ever making the first move.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 01:58 PM
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Is it hurtful & condescending to a tell a man that he should be open to dating single moms?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 01:56 PM
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A lifetime of service is just...life, unless you're extremely selfish or perhaps a total shut-in.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 01:54 PM
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It isn't necessary to smile constantly. There's nothing wrong with having a neutral expression most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 01:52 PM
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I got to a non-denominational church, though I'd describe both myself & my church as charismatic in theology (fairly similar to Calvary Chapel, or the Vineyard).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 02:22 PM
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Men paying is still largely the norm in Eastern Europe/the Balkans. This is slowly beginning to change among young, educated people in the big cities, but they're still not nearly on the same level as Western Europe. I imagine other parts of the world to be even more conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:38 PM
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I'm not asexual, but I am a virgin, & I'm against sex outside of marriage for religious reasons. I insist on paying for dates, because that's the kind of conservative guy I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:31 PM
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Not just America, but pretty much the entire world outside of Western Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:21 PM
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All arenas? 🤔 Would it really be reasonable for me to expect to be able to find a non-fat 20-something autistic introverted Hungarian born-again Christian right-wing virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 04:43 AM
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Having a reliable contraception method is important too, because if you're worried about pregnancy, again, it can be very distracting and taking away from the pleasure. I would've upvoted if not for this sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:53 AM
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I know plenty of secure, masculine guys who follow hierarchical marriage structures, because that's what the Bible commands.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 06:32 AM
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I know how strange the dynamic sounds to modern people, but I believe in it anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 06:31 AM
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Considering the vast number of marriages, it's pretty much an indisputable fact that *some* women fit that description.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:30 PM
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Some of those women really are virgins when they marry, & others go on to be good wives despite their past indiscretions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:06 PM
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It should be both.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 09:02 PM
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A woman like that almost certainly wouldn't marry you unless you converted to the exact same faith as her. Her family & social circle of religious nutjobs would likely shun her for so much as dating an outsider, let alone marrying him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 08:57 PM
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Yes, I'd consider it a good thing, although I want someone who believes in traditional gender roles (at least to a certain extent), & ideally someone who's right-wing as well. A woman who's significantly smarter than me is unlikely to share these values (at least if she's born & raised in the West.)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 04:31 AM
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Is it wrong to bring a woman flowers on a date?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:37 PM
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Funnily enough, France is generally far more nationalist & hostile to immigrants than America. Trump would be considered pro-immigrant & pro-multiculturalism over there. French cops are renowned for their brutality; they aren't held to account the way American cops are. France was one of the last European countries to ban parents from spanking their children. French culture has a strong undercurrent of authoritarianism, IMHO far more so than America.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 08:36 PM
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Splitting the bill is only the norm in Western Europe AFAIK.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 08:32 PM
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Was splitting the bill common even back then?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 08:31 PM
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French people are generally far more nationalist/xenophobic than Americans.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 08:30 PM
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Not sure what the law was back then, but today that would be statutory rape in France (the standard age of consent is 15, but that's bumped up to 18 if the older party is in a position of authority over the minor).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 08:28 PM
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In secular culture, I think Canada is already at about the same level as you describe, though I wouldn't really know because I prefer to date within my right-wing, Christian bubble. I prefer to pay for dates. If a woman insists on splitting or herself paying early in the relationship, she's almost certainly either not interested in me or not compatible with me. I actually agree with café / beer / having a walk being preferred to fancy dinner for a first date. I don't see that as indicative of a …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 08:21 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 07:20 AM
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How many past sexual partners should I expect a 20 year old woman to have?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 06:17 AM
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Cheating, divorce, or emotional abuse are *not* likely if you vet properly & are yourself marriage material.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 01:53 PM
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Yes. I largely seek relationships because, in the long run, that's the only way I can get guilt-free, regular sex. Most of what I do to gain or maintain a relationship is with the end-goal of regular sex in mind. I don't think this question is very applicable to me because I don't believe in sex outside of marriage for religious reasons. I don't just want sex because of sexual pleasure itself; I'm also intensely baby crazy. Of course, I want the romance of a relationship as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 05:50 AM
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Ah, that's good.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 05:03 PM
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Adultery was a crime in many past cultures, often even punishable by death. In Western Europe & other Catholic areas, divorce was generally banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 04:29 AM
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Yes. I wish I were already married.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 12:02 AM
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I wish I knew what it was like to make a woman orgasm :'(
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:51 PM
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How exactly did you express interest?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:14 AM
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my husband was just friendly at first and then got flirty, when we already had a bit of connection. Did he get flirty around the time you two had your first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:13 AM
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That's all well & good, but It's possible to like those things without demanding them to an unreasonable extent. If it's not an obstacle for you, then why have you complained about how hard it is to find a man willing to wait until marriage? Perhaps there are men you know in your church or other social circles who meet the standards of your religion but aren't quite wealthy enough to take you on expensive restaurant dates every week? Why not just lower your economic standards a little bit & have…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:10 AM
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How does that apply to men & women who, for religious reasons, refuse to have sex outside of marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 03:08 PM
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I'm gonna be honest with you all. I don't understand what "emotional labour" is. Can someone provide concrete examples of "emotional labour" in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 02:39 AM
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I'm a man diagnosed with NVLD (similar to high-functioning autism or Asperger's). I'm also an introvert. I've so far been rejected by every woman I've ever asked out from social circles (the only dates I've gotten have all been from dating apps). How can I distinguish a woman being interested in me vs just being nice?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 03:38 PM
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The "best possible guy she can find now" is no older than his early 30s. Many such men are capable of providing for a family, though perhaps not to the luxurious level of a girl who demands weekly dates at expensive restaurants + frequent expensive gifts & trips. Just because a man isn't rich when a woman starts dating him doesn't mean that she'll never be able to be a housewife. Earlier on this sub, you complained that it was effectively impossible to find a man willing to wait until marriage. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 07:15 PM
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The "best possible guy that she can find now" likely doesn't have much money yet, unless she's from an upper-class background herself. Marriage-minded guys often don't want to constantly go on expensive dates even if they can afford it, & many marriage-minded women don't even want such extravagant dating. "Paying rent?" The best possible guy isn't moving in with a woman before they're married, & a woman who wants the best possible guy isn't moving in with a guy before they're married. A woman wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:33 PM
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The type of chick I'd like to find can be defined in two very different ways; a woman who meets my bare minimum standards, or my hypothetically perfect dream woman. My absolute minimum standards are that I must be attracted to her, she must be an adult but not older than her early 30s (I'm not attracted to women outside of that range anyway), & that she must be a part of or interested in Evangelical Protestantism (Baptist, Pentecostal, non-denominational, &c.). My dream woman would meet all the …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 10:00 PM
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Serious answer: because God says so. It's also backed up by millennia of tradition.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:40 AM
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Those two things practically *are* my high standards, i.e. I want someone who shares my values.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 05:39 AM
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OK. I was referring to this: Man do start with high standards, but have to lower and lower until they meet someone who accepts him...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 09:01 PM
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In a wife's case, respect necessarily includes deference. The incredibly respectful marriages I see around me, including that of my own parents, are far superior than what I see around me in mainstream Western culture. If you knew me you'd probably say that I'm *too* respectful, especially to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 09:00 PM
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I'm devoutly religious & strongly right wing, despite living in an incredibly secular & progressive area. I think I'd rather die childless & alone than see my children raised into a worldview & lifestyle which I deeply despise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 08:56 PM
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What if I want a great relationship but have come to the conclusion that my standards I've held to for years are unreasonably high?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:27 PM
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I tried to just be myself. I'm 26 years old & I've never had a second date. On the 5 first dates I had, I couldn't even work up the courage to kiss her or hold her hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:26 PM
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I'm incredibly picky as a man & it's only left me increasingly lonely, bitter, & unfulfilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:22 PM
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That may be true about Western women in general, but many women who are devoutly religious or culturally non-Western strongly want marriage & children, & often thus have an accommodating attitude towards men who are part of their narrow religious or cultural circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:20 PM
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I really struggle & I have really high standards. In my experience, that's often, perhaps even usually, the case with guys who really struggle.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:17 PM
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That may be generally true, but I, for one, don't see women who want fornication as options.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:15 PM
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That's what living in society is like. You constantly defer to the government unless you want to end up in prison. You constantly defer to your employer unless you want to be unemployed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:13 PM
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Just because a woman doesn't meet the unreasonably high standards I had when I started looking for someone, doesn't mean that I don't find her attractive, am repulsed by her, or don't have feelings for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:11 PM
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In my case, having incredibly high standards in my university years seems to be the reason I've never had a 2nd date at age 26.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:02 PM
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A wife should have a deferential attitude to her husband, & in particular should defer to his opinion when it comes to big decisions that effect their household as a whole, unless to do so would be sinful or otherwise blatantly unreasonable, (e.g. he wants to kill their children) the details of which are to be worked out on a case by case basis by the couple & their church elders. In practice, husbands seldom or never have to invoke such authority in healthy marriages, at least in Western cultur…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:42 PM
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Since when is smiling a clear IOI? I always thought smiling was just normal friendly behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 07:11 AM
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It's obviously true that some women sometimes reject "nice guys", so I'm not sure exactly what you mean by that. I'd proudly treat my girlfriend or wife like a princess, simp for her, support her, spoil her, treat her like a queen, & treat her amazingly, but only to a reasonable extent. I definitely wouldn't worship the ground she walks on. I'd make her a stay at home mom unless she strongly doesn't want that. I'd do my best to lead her to prosperity but I can't predict the future & there's a ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:51 AM
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Making someone a stay at home wife requires a shit ton of money that has to be stable your whole life. In North America at least, this is only true if you insist on living in a single-family detached home in a major metropolitan area in a HCOL part of the country, having a closet full of expensive clothes, going on overseas vacations every year, going to restaurants every week, &c. If you're not overly concerned with material things, nor with what people think, you don't really need "a shit ton …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:39 AM
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What makes you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:32 AM
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You seem to have a highly twisted idea of what a submissive wife should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:31 AM
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Fair enough. I more or less feel the same way about liberals.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:28 AM
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I'm a grown adult man, & I largely seem to be incapable of differentiating politeness from genuine interest and mutual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 08:38 PM
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Maybe that's true of most conservatives in your state/country, though there must be a least a few who accept your culture or are even part of your culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 08:32 PM
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I'm guessing you're American? Here in Canada, you'd be considered almost a Nazi simply for being pro-life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:27 PM
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I prefer liberals because I'd have to abandon my values, deny my family and reject my culture to date a conservative How so? Conservatives belong to every culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:17 PM
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Do you really think that most regular conservatives believe in white supremacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:09 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 08:02 PM
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I'm looking for a certain person, although I'm less picky than I used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:40 PM
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I've tried that numerous times. So far, such women have always rejected me. Right now, there's exactly one woman in my social circle who I find attractive & who I think might say yes. I don't see her often & she isn't active on social media that I know of, but I plan on asking her for her number the next time I see her.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:32 PM
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Yes!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:22 PM
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I'm already going on dates & getting rejected by overweight/average women. I'd rather be alone than settle for an obese woman, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:21 PM
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I'm jaded & and miserable, but I want to learn!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:20 PM
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In this sub & in other places, people often make the point that they learn from relationships. As a 26 year old who's never had a relationship, this makes me desperately want relationship experience. Should I get a relationship ASAP, or should I look to other sources to get the knowledge that people normally get from relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 07:00 AM
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I prefer conservative women. Political orientation matters a lot to me in dating. Liberal beliefs themselves are unattractive to me, though I don't think that conservatives or liberal noticeably differ when it comes to physical attractiveness. I'm ethnically Hungarian, but I've lived my whole life in Canada, & my parents immigrated from Romania. By Canadian standards, I'm far-right, but by the standards of Hungary, Romania, & most of the rest of the world, I'm centrist/moderate. I can't imagine …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:36 AM
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There very much is a wall when it comes to fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 03:04 AM
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Much of that can be learned outside of romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:54 PM
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A man who's never had a relationship has likely experienced tons of failure in the form of getting rejected by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 06:00 PM
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No, or at least not yet. I refuse to give up this young, when my biggest earthly goal is to marry & have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 04:13 AM
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True dat
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 12:58 AM
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I can't speak for other worldviews, but in properly-interpreted Biblical Christianity, married women are seen as responsible for acting in a mature way, controlling their own actions, & working on their own problems. Using the limited, circumstantial authority of husbands to totally negate the personal responsibility of wives is a gross misinterpretation of the Bible.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 08:13 PM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:55 PM
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False dichotomy. In a healthy marriage, the man is in charge, but what the woman wants matters to him. It's somewhat like a healthy country, where the state is respected but also cares what the public thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:54 PM
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Women often benefit massively from settling down young with a good man, submitting to their husband, & not worshipping formal schooling. I can't speak for the Red Pill, but do you think that "tradcons" in general loathe women? Do "tradcon" women loathe themselves? Do "tradcon" men loathe their mothers who taught them to be socially conservative, or their sisters & daughters who share their views? Can you even define "tradcon"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 02:10 PM
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Like the chance of a woman having been in multiple serious relationships and still being a virgin is virtually 0. It's common among good-looking, sociable women in their early 20s who happen to be devoutly religious.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:30 AM
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I'm an introverted, nerdy, NVLD-diagnosed (more or less autistic), devoutly religious, right-wing virgin man. Do you really think I'm going to find a compatible wife at a bar or club?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:27 AM
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You dropped this, king: 👑
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:25 AM
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What was her relationship with her father like?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:23 AM
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If it turns out that we're compatible & that we both want it, then I'm going to marry her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 06:20 AM
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I'm guessing you live in America? Here in Canada, it's illegal for regular people to carry anything for self-defence. Even carrying a butter knife without a valid, non-self-defence-related reason could land you in jail. Possessing pepper spray is also banned under a separate law. AFAIK most of the world has laws similar to Canada.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:52 AM
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Question for virgin women interested in men: What do you want in a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 01:44 AM
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I never said that I personally want to be in charge. I'm just convinced that it should be that way. I don't believe that wives should be "bossed around". It's a matter of fact that many happy marriages are traditional/hierarchical. I personally know multiple such married couples!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/24 01:52 AM
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I want a willing partner. If you think a happy marriage is "slavery" then that's your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 09:19 PM
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Nope :)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 01:22 PM
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It doesn't matter how much the world changes. Of course marriages are supposed to be partnerships...partnerships with the man in charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 07:13 AM
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Many women, even young women, want the man to be in charge, though to be fair such women generally don't want a house husband. I knew that they do more childcare, though I didn't know that it was 12 times more. Custody after divorce is a complicated subject, & varies massively from one jurisdiction to the next. In America & Canada (probably most of the West, though I haven't closely looked at the relevant statistics for other countries), divorce has slightly declined in recent years, though it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 03:26 AM
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In my current circumstances, I'm hardly able to get dates with women who meet my standards. I've met numerous women who seemed into me, but I never made a move on them because they didn't meet my incredibly high standards at the time. One even asked me out; I said no. The few women I actually did shoot my shot with all rejected me. Since I've lowered my standards & gotten onto multiple dating apps, I've managed to get a few 1st dates. One of those women I decided not to go on a 2nd date with bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 02:48 AM
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I'm actively looking for a wife. I'm better educated than most people. I recently finished my latest round of schooling & am actively looking for a job in my field. I regularly go to the gym. I go out of my way to socialize. Aside from going to church on Sunday, I'm involved with multiple Bible studies/regular Christian events. I don't currently have the money for therapy, & if I made enough money I'd probably be too busy with other things. I listen to what women say, though I tend to be skeptic…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 02:18 AM
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I agree (kinda). The man should be in charge even if she makes millions & he's a house husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 02:08 AM
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Why not women from Ukraine, one of the -stan countries, or any dictatorship that's poorer than America?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 02:06 AM
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I'd pick 1 but I don't agree with referring to such a woman as a "bang maid". I'd prefer it if my wife stayed home & took care (or mostly took care) of the kids, cooking, cleaning, &c. I think such a setup would be better for our children & for our relationship as a couple, especially if, as in this scenario, I work 60 hours a week. I'd be much more open to option 2 if neither of us works more than 25 hours a week outside the home. Being a SAHM can be as exhausting or more exhausting than workin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 02:03 AM
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She's guaranteed to sleep with other men behind her partners back This is blatantly false.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:05 AM
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Yes, I'm sorry to say that means I think a lot of these men are toxic. Most people are What is a non toxic person like, in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:02 AM
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So far, I haven't been able to get into a relationship, though it's worth noting that I have incredibly high standards which virtually no women in my area meet. In my university years I knew several women who I probably had a shot with, but they didn't meet my standards at the time. Now I've reduced my standards to the lowest level I can bear, but they still filter out most women, & I have less ability to meet women that I'm done school. Living in an area that's incredibly liberal even by Wester…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 06:36 AM
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I don't have the capacity to meet dozens of women who meet my standards & are willing to flirt with me every week. I don't think I've met a dozen such women in my *lifetime*.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 05:59 AM
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It's possible for an introvert to enjoy partying & to hang out with their friends a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 08:33 PM
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What if A were younger? How different would B have to be to fit your type?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:02 AM
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What do you mean by "total introvert"? He isn't necessarily antisocial. He just needs time away from large groups of people. Would you date the other guy if he were younger? Also, is not going to college a deal breaker for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 06:00 AM
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What if a were younger? What if b were extroverted & sociable?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:11 AM
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What if b has a promising career but he's at an early stage (just started his own business, in medical school, getting a 2nd degree, &c.)? If b already had a good job, what would make you choose him over a?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:10 AM
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Would you go for a if he were younger?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:06 AM
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What about option b is a deal breaker?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:06 AM
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There absolutely can be incentives. Maybe they vibe really well. Maybe he has a promising career he's just at the beginning of. Maybe she's really enchanted by him for reasons she herself doesn't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:05 AM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 08:02 PM
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Question for women who are attracted to men: Let's say you're in your early 20s. Would you rather date a) a fun, exciting, extroverted, neurotypical man in his early 30s with a big social circle who never went to college or university but makes good money working in a skilled trade, & is culturally a country boy (drives a truck &c.), or b) an autistic (or close to it), introverted, awkward, naturally shy/reserved man in his mid 20s with a limited social circle who's well educated but currently u…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 07:53 AM
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That's generally true, but there are plenty of exceptions. Just like how virgins tend to make better spouses, though there are plenty of people who have happy marriages despite their past indiscretions.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 03:33 AM
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There's a lot more to education than formal schooling.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 05:07 PM
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I have both a college diploma & a uni. degree. I already had critical thinking skills as a child, & I'm still not convinced that the vaccines developed for Covid-19 were safe or necessary. Fortitude? Do you really think a college dweeb like me has demonstrated more fortitude than a military veteran who never went to college?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 03:35 PM
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There are plenty of ambitious, motivated men who learned a skilled trade or started their own business instead of getting a college diploma or uni. degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 03:32 PM
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Those of us with a well-developed moral compass care.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 10:37 PM
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Men tend to have higher sex drives than women, & men are socialized to watch porn more than women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 10:35 PM
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No, that would indicate that she doesn't have the values I'm looking for in a partner. AFAIK none of my friends are scum bags. In the unlikely event of what OP describes happening, I'd cut both the "friend" & the woman out of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:01 AM
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No, I'm viscerally disgusted by plastic surgery. I unironically love features like big noses, thin lips, or small breasts on women!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 04:58 AM
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This is false when it comes to women who belong to religious or ethnic minorities, or even those who have unpopular political views for their area. It's very reasonable for them to want someone like themselves. Of course I sympathize with them, for I as a man am in a similar situation. I'm absolutely not willing to settle for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 10:19 PM
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Women who want kids have less time than men, not more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 06:38 PM
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I don't think going to the bar will help me, unless it's with a pre-existing friend group. As a devout Christian, I'm strongly opposed to drunkenness & to sex outside of marriage. That being said, I try hard to be social among other Christians.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 05:13 AM
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I don't think I'd use her iPad at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 09:10 PM
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I'm alone at 26 & still not ready to give up!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 06:45 AM
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I'd be devastated, though I don't think I'd snoop on her iPad on the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 06:41 AM
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Hey, some hot college girls are extreme conservatives themselves, though you're definitely right that extreme conservatives are a small minority in college/university (at least in the West). I was one of those extreme conservative guys at university. I managed to emerge with my virginity intact, but even for a below-average guy like me who deliberately avoided promiscuous women, it was difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 06:37 AM
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From my perspective, it's primarily progressives that want to oppress people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 05:30 AM
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What if they regret it & wouldn't do it again?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 10:03 PM
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Edited. Also, I was responding to this: I’m not sure why some of these zoomers think ye olden years of late 90s/early aughts were somehow less degenerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:55 PM
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A hardline social conservative zoomer of the type you're referring to would consider LGBT acceptance to be degenerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:49 PM
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Yes. Obviously I don't think I'm going to meet my wife on PPD, but I don't spend literally all of my free time here. IRL I go out of my way to meet or talk to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:41 PM
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I think Jesus wouldn't approve of some of those dance moves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:29 PM
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Speak for yourself. My parents were virgins when they married.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:27 PM
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Societal acceptance of the LGBT movement was far lower back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:27 PM
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I don't want to hook up. I want to meet a wholesome woman & marry her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:24 PM
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Unironically true
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 09:18 PM
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Refraining from masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:41 AM
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If they willingly fornicated in the past, admit that they did wrong & be willing to face rejection for their past misdeeds (as opposed to making excuses like "I was vulnerable" or demanding that men accept them regardless of their past). If they abandoned their marriage without a valid reason but later realize that this was wrong, admit wrongdoing, be willing to face rejection for their past misdeeds, &, if it's reasonable to do so, seek reconciliation with the man they abandoned (as opposed to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 04:35 PM
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If I'm only to willing to have sex within marriage & have high standards for my future wife, but consistently fail to get relationships or even first dates with women who meet my standards, am I an incel or a volcel? On the one hand, I continuously make the choice to abstain from sex. On the other hand, I want sex but don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 04:30 PM
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Average men can get some action by simply dressing well, grooming, approaching women, learning how to communicate with women, and learning how to build sexual tension. Once an average man learns those things, he’s no longer average. How realistic is this for men who legitimately have disorders such as autism or NVLD, & who also happen to be right-wing & devoutly religious despite living in a left-wing & secular area?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:17 PM
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Somewhat less men than women overall. None of the churches I've been a part of were "mostly women." I wouldn't say that Christian men "have plenty of women to choose from" in general. My experience seems to be that boys & girls are even growing up; there only seem to be more women among the older crowd. Anecdotally, I definitely haven't had plenty of women to choose from since I spent much of my life in a dying church, & the church I go to now also hardly has single women close to me in age. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 06:51 PM
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I'm spent my life in such communities, & the ones I've been a part of have always had plenty of men. I don't think normie men value women being virgins more today than they did 20 years ago; it probably just seems that way because of the minority of men online who are vocal about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 10:25 PM
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Your personal experience only involves a small fraction of all men. It's likely that you run in different circles from men who want or prefer virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:52 PM
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Are all religious men in the West tradcons or part of the manosphere?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:42 PM
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Plenty of men have always wanted virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:41 PM
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Obviously, all humans have intrinsic value, but it's definitely ideal to be a virgin until marriage. People who still hold to good morals are going to feel excluded by mainstream society in the West & much of the rest of the world. It's generally a good idea to try to find likeminded people. It's definitely possible to have an "ex" while being a virgin. Most religious married people I know had sexless relationships before marriage. Virgins have much to be proud of!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:35 PM
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You asked: Why does all this feigned concern for women's virginity not translate into shaming and harsher punishments for child molesters? My point is that people like me (devoutly religious socio-political conservatives who care about virginity) have, generally speaking, always supported & carried out shaming & harsh punishments for child molesters, though of course every group contains hypocrites. Everything in your latest comment here is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:12 AM
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Being grossed out at hookups doesn't necessarily negate feeling jealous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:35 PM
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I don't believe that women are ever "public property". I just think hookups are gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:13 AM
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On the one hand, I'd be sad that she ever did hookups. On the other hand, I'd be glad that she doesn't do them anymore. Her having ever done hookups would *probably* be a deal-breaker, though if she's repentant I'm theoretically willing to give her a shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:01 AM
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You don't seem to realize how devout religiosity works. People will literally allow themselves to be tortured to death for the sake of religion. Is it really that hard for you to understand how a devoutly religious man who happens to have a high sex drive can restrain himself?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 11:44 PM
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Do you really think that every single Christian man saving himself for marriage has a low sex drive? People who sincerely hold to such religious beliefs abstain no matter how high their sex drive is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:55 AM
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It seems pretty self explanatory. High sex drive = high libido = high craving for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:21 AM
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That's fair. Such men don't want you either. They absolutely do pursue women for sex...by pursuing women for marriage. These men generally have high sex drives, they just learn to control it (or at least try to).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:47 PM
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Men who haven't been in a relationship yet aren't necessarily immature, & sometimes they know who they are, what they want, & how to behave & communicate in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:11 AM
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Some men had women attracted to them but chose not to pursue because they didn't think they were compatible. In religious circles, it's common to not begin dating until college, because sex outside of marriage is forbidden & dating outsiders is forbidden or at least discouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 07:07 AM
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Yes, and? I never implied otherwise. That's beside the point. What makes you think that I don't understand that they're laborious? I know they're laborious; I also know they were generally combined with staying home with the kids. Women who worked as seamstresses, cooks, domestics, &c. despite having families of their own were generally part of a poor minority. I don't think there was any point in Western history before 1970 or so where the *majority* of married women with children worked such j…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 03:19 AM
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You seemed to be referring to "work" in the narrow sense of paid labour outside the home. The fact that women have always done housework is so obvious to me that I didn't consider that you were addressing people who denied that. I usee such specific language to drive home the point that housework is work. I thought you were the one trying to change the discussion. My point was that women have always worked, just not usually for monetary compensation. Apparently that was your point too but it fle…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 11:28 PM
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"Drastic shifts in sex roles seem to be sweeping through America. From 1890 to 1985 the participation in the work force of women between the ages of twenty-five and forty-four soared from 15 to 71 percent, with the pace of change tripling after 1950. At the end of the Second World War only 10 percent of married women with children under the age of six held jobs or were seeking them. Since then mothers of preschool children have thronged the job market: by 1985 the census had classified more than…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 07:14 PM
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In premodern society, women didn't generally work as merchants or farmers in the way that men did. The main economic unit was the family, not the individual. Men worked as merchants or farmers. In most rural households, the women cooked, cleaned the house, made/repaired/cleaned clothing & bedding, did childcare, &c. Sometimes rural women did some kind of craft at home, but this was in addition to all their housework. In wealthy landowner or merchant families, housework was outsourced as paid job…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:11 PM
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The fact is that *most* married women in American, Canada, & other Western countries did not have paid employment until the 1970s. In Western culture, women have always been expected to do the lions share of free domestic labour. Before the Industrial Revolution, not only did most women have no paid outside the home, but most men didn't either; most men were subsistence farmers. In most households, the man did all or most agricultural work while the woman did all or most of the housework. With i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 04:59 PM
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There are unattractive women who wish they were approached more, as well as women with very high standards who wish they were approached more by men who meet their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 06:30 AM
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True.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:54 AM
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I think it should be talked about in religious tones but without self-worship. Of course self worship is evil, but sex under the right conditions is not only good but holy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 01:53 AM
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Sorry to hear about all that. Fake Christians are among the biggest offenders, sure. Obviously, by definition, a genuine Christian doesn't rape or cover up rape. Any church that tolerates such blatant church is obviously a fake church; they aren't living up to the standards of Biblical Christianity. In many places, marrying below the age of consent is legal, although I've never personally encountered it & I don't think any of the Christian parents I know would be OK their child doing so. *Some c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:13 PM
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Female sexuality being talked about in religious tones isn't a bad thing, as long as male sexuality is also talked about this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:23 PM
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Who says we aren't enraged? Generally speaking, people don't randomly bring up such sensitive topics during casual conversations, but it's very much something every single person I know who cares about sexual purity is deeply concerned by & something I myself think about a lot. My parents & all of my politically-involved close friends have expressed their disgust at such actions. Anti-trafficking organizations have talked numerous times at Christian conferences I've been to. My right-leaning fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:11 AM
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Us social conservatives have always supported shaming & harsh punishments for child molesters. What makes you think otherwise? Generally speaking, we're the ones clamoring for capital punishment or life in prison for sex criminals while liberal urge leniency. Being violently opposed to pedophiles is a *huge* talking point among conservatives. Looking at the right-wingers I know, we, if anything, tend to go overboard, i.e. calling for extrajudicial violence against suspected pedophiles. I don't t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 06:03 AM
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Looks like I might have to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:09 PM
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> Church on Sundays, waiting until marriage, the whole works? Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:08 PM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:00 PM
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I've definitely considered that. I don't have much money right now & I'm not yet desperate enough to try that. If in a few years I'm still alone but (God-willing) have more money I'll give it a shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:44 PM
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My main church is no-denominational, but I also attend a Bible study at a Pentecostal church & I grew up in a Vineyard church. There are no really big differences between the three. In our sort of Evangelicalism, denominations don't matter a whole lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:41 PM
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Protestant, what most people would refer to as "Evangelical".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:20 PM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:19 PM
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Yeah, I know :'(
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 07:18 PM
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I already do that. I've been thinking about being a bit less upfront so that I can get more dating experience; perhaps that's a bad idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:32 PM
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I already attend church. Church hopping just to find a girl seems scummy to me, though perhaps I should give it a shot. I have options all around the world, though I'm not yet desperate enough to move. I don't care about the specific manner, I just want it to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:31 PM
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I already do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:29 PM
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I'm already trying to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:29 PM
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No, that's still sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:16 PM
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How? What advice would you give him to get a wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:15 PM
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What dating advice would you give a man who doesn't believe in sex outside of marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:13 PM
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Women with reasonable standards are happy to date men who live with their parents. That's the norm in most of the world & it (or living with roommates) is re-emerging as the norm in HCOL areas of the West. All of the married men in my family lived with their parents until they got married.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:49 PM
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I'm willing to invest a lot of time & attention into women as well, I'm just inherently less attractive due to my autism & introversion. A lot of these guys didn't seem to invest lots of time & attention into women. They just got lucky by meeting a looksmatch they happened to vibe with in the right place at the right time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:58 PM
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Yep. I used to think I was extremely ugly. Then I realized that the guys I saw succeeding with women while I continued to fail weren't generally better looking than me; they just happened to be quick-witted, extraverted, & neurotypical.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 06:24 AM
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As long as there's a marital exception, that's pretty based.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:38 AM
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Man. Sex - And all other exclusive forms of physical intimacy Children Stability - Sense of stability that comes with being in a committed relationship Emotional intimacy - Someone you can be completely vulnerable with Emotional support - Provides comfort and support during trying times Companionship - Not being alone Partner for chasing shared goals Financial benefits Social benefits - Wider social net, approval by society, etc ​ Sex & children are the most important to me by far. (If me or my …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 05:55 AM
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The happiest women I know were or are submissive wives, including my own mother & grandmother.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 01:01 AM
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I'm uncomfortable using the term "deserve" in this context. Everyone should strive to be content with their life regardless of what it's like. Everyone should strive to be the best possible spouse. All that being said, a husband should keep the following standard: -be a devout Christian (the rest of the points are contained in this one!) -be totally monogamous: he shouldn't so much as look at porn or fantasize about other women -don't even consider divorce unless she cheats, or perhaps if she co…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:26 AM
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It's a fact that, generally speaking, women want children: How Many Kids Do Women Want? | Institute for Family Studies (ifstudies.org) Half of all U.S. women say they want to have a child, survey reveals | PBS NewsHour Desire for Children Still Norm in U.S. (gallup.com)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 09:42 PM
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He isn't saying that's literally the case in reality. He's setting it up that way hypothetically to see whether PPD women would rather be housewives or sex-workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:25 AM
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Men don't naturally struggle to respect housewives like the opposite, however. I'm refer to how people deeply feel, not necessarily what they consciously admit to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 10:04 PM
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All the good things in life are dangerous if you think it about hard enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:32 PM
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Traditional marriage should be a lot more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:30 PM
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Largely because it's a traditionally feminine role. Women tend to struggle to respect a man who can't or won't provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:29 PM
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No. The majority of married women in Canada & the US (& presumably most of the rest of the West) were unemployed at any given time until the 1970s. It wasn't just upper-middle class or higher women, it was pretty much all middle class women + a large amount of lower class women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:27 PM
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Generally speaking, housewives want children, often more than their husbands do. Who said housewives can't refuse sex? Depending on how you define the term, housewives can have income of their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:24 PM
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This question doesn't necessarily show that. Perhaps, from OP's perspective, it's modern/"educated"/"feminist" women who have little respect for the role of housewife, or see it as equivalent to sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:22 PM
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Probably not. I can barely handle the thought of marrying a non-virgin, let alone someone's who's had an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:54 PM
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What an ignorant thing to say. I'm 100% sure of my faith & I'd happily die before I give it up. I'm not sure what's considered "super early". Sometimes family or friends help set people up, though marriages in my circle are definitely not arranged like in India or among European aristocrats centuries ago. (Not sure what you mean by "basically arranging"; a marriage is either arranged by family or not). I'm not sure what's considered a niche religious group. Career & gym will make me more attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:27 PM
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None for me. I don't believe in sex outside of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:48 PM
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Yeah. I'm currently pushing myself hard at my career & at the gym, & I'm seriously considering moving to a more religious/conservative place once I have a bit more money & work experience. For now I've gone through the 5 stages of grief & accepted my lot in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 10:39 PM
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I go to church with my parents most Sundays. Other than that, I go out alone multiple times a week, mostly to Bible studies & other church-related events. There are few new women at such events. There are numerous women I talk to for more than 5 minutes, but they're mostly the same old regulars who have never shown me the slightest bit of interest. I'm indeed vastly out of step with my surrounding culture. I'm only interested in women who are religious like I am (or at the very least interested …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 06:29 PM
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Above all else, I'd raise them Christian. Unless I myself become upper class by that point, I'd expect them to average. I'm not sure what advice I'd be qualified to give them when it comes to "picking up guys". I'd definitely teach them to refuse to have sex outside of marriage under any circumstances, & to date with the goal of Christian marriage in mind. If they specifically ask for advice in this area or seem to be behind their peers, I'd advise them to put themselves out there & to not be af…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 06:17 AM
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I go out several times a week (3-4 days a week on average), though I rarely meet new women that I talk to for more than 5 minutes. I don't have any close friends whom I regularly see. I have a handful of old childhood friends who I rarely hang out with. I have a large number of friends/acquaintances aside from that, but I only regularly meet those who live in my town & happen to go to the same Bible studies & parties I go to. I don't know what my standing is in my social group's social hierarchy…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:44 AM
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What if I genuinely don't care much about money except as a means of providing for a family, & I don't believe in sex outside of marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:48 PM
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What if I'm a 20-something man, don't believe in sex outside of marriage, & want to get married & have children, ideally many children, ASAP?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:47 PM
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What if I'm in my 20s but have never had a relationship despite years of trying & struggle to get dates with women who meet my bare minimum standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:42 PM
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100K is enough for a solid middle-class lifestyle in a HCOL area like where I live; in cheaper places 50K is enough. There's more to life than money. "The best life" might not necessarily involve a 2000sq. ft. single-family detached house on a quarter acre lot with a swimming pool, multiple large SUVs, expensive restaurants every week, fancy overseas vacations every year, & university degrees for every single child. And that's OK!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 03:36 PM
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Plenty of couples succeed along traditional lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 09:01 PM
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Many men don't crave a stay at home wife, though I happen to ideally prefer such an arrangement. The average man is, in fact, capable of supporting such a lifestyle, but only by working long/awkward hours or taking a dangerous/unpleasant job, & their household will likely have a below-average standard of living compared to their 2-income peers. Being a mother is every bit as valid (perhaps even more so) "personal development" than formal education/training. It's also entirely possible for women …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 07:21 PM
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Even if that's all true, none of it contradicts my point. For the vast majority of human history, men who didn't defer to other men died.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 06:40 PM
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I'd prefer a virgin but I can't afford to be too picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 03:39 PM
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I'm looking for love. I try to stay positive; it can be a struggle. I've been involved in a local church community all my life, though I have very few options at my current church. I've already tried a few different ones; I'm tired of church hopping & happy with my current church. I'm a born again Christian myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 06:52 AM
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Guys who didn't play well with others didn't survive long either. To survive in a tribal environment men must cooperate when it comes to hunting & warfare, + defer to chiefs, elders, & other social superiors.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:28 PM
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What if I frequently apologize but also complain about political correctness?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 06:34 AM
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In my case, the probability of me finding a lovely, attractive woman who really wants me and isn't settling for me is low in general. Why shouldn't I try speed dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 01:01 AM
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In terms of their beliefs I think they're misled. As individuals I judge them on a case by case basis, though as a rule I judge my fellow Christians more harshly than other people (& the closer they are to me theologically, the more harshly I tend to judge them).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 05:52 AM
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Overall I'd say that I view it through a modern lens in some ways but not in others. Do you have anything specific in mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 05:51 AM
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IDK, I grew up as an only child & I'm incredibly lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 05:47 AM
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I'm deeply spiritual/devoutly religious. AMA!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 05:44 AM
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I know plenty of people who successfully dated without acting terribly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 04:10 AM
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Just because I complain about degeneracy online doesn't mean I hate others on an individual level. The "wall" is no revenge fantasy for me. I have tremendous empathy for those who risk dying childless & alone because I feel that I'm in a similar position. I support various sorts of behaviour that many would consider simping.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 05:54 AM
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IDK. It may be a thing for some people, but I personally can't relate. For me, women who are nurturing, pure, & wifey material are the hottest. I don't understand how someone can feel romantic love towards a person without also having sexual feelings for said person. I'm devoutly religious & surrounded myself with religious people, so I'm an outlier. I've always seen sexual pleasure & reproduction as closely linked blessings, to be enjoyed thoroughly but only in marriage. I struggle to understan…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 05:46 AM
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IDK. I'm religious & was raised in what Redditors would generally consider to be "purity culture", & I very much want to fuck women who are nurturing & pure, in fact I desire them more strongly than women who aren't that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 03:12 AM
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Many men who have options & aren't desperate settle down in their 20s, in fact I'd say most do, both worldwide & in my social circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 03:05 AM
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I knew what I wanted in college, as did many of the people I knew there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 03:04 AM
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Few or none of the married Christian guys I know were the best option their woman had both in & outside their church from my perspective, though I don't know how those women themselves saw it. The kind of women I'm willing to marry are themselves not open to marrying an unbeliever. Unless they use dating apps (which many of them do), these women are limited to meeting guys through church or other social activities, or being set up by others.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 01:21 AM
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That sounds about right for high school, & perhaps at higher ages in the US, though I live in a strongly progressive part of Canada where Evangelicalism is strongly stigmatized, so I think that pretty much anyone who still regularly attends church here past age 20 or so & isn't openly progressive in their theology is going to be against sex outside of marriage. Part of my moral system is sticking to my own kind. At this point, I am willing to date a woman who is interested in/in the process of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:43 AM
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Several countries have the draft for women. In the event of war, Norway & Sweden will draft men & women equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:40 AM
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For the most part, there haven't been any attractive (I include average-looking women as attractive) young women willing to date me at the local churches I've consistently attended throughout my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:39 AM
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I don't have the money to move RN though I've definitely thought of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:29 AM
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I'm only interested in the ones who are so religious that they don't have sex outside of marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:27 AM
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I tried to find someone in my early 20s but failed. In my experience the minority who are genuinely pure but also want to have sex get married super young or have very high standards which I'm unable to meet. Hopefully I can find a young woman who doesn't believe in sex outside of marriage but is interested in sex before I get too old.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:26 AM
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Right now I don't have the money to do so, though I've considered that as a future option. I've always been open to slightly different churches, & I've become more openminded when it comes to a woman's doctrinal beliefs (or I've become more desperate; it's a matter of perspective).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:24 AM
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I'll consider that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:20 AM
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No I didn't. I want to know to what extent such women look down on my lack of relationship experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:19 AM
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I don't see such people as "most religious".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 12:19 AM
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We know that, generally speaking, lack of experience is unattractive in a man. But how is this affected by religion? I have almost no relationship experience at 26. I had opportunities to date but in the past I always refused to date unbelievers. Due to attending small churches for most of my life & living in a deeply secular area, I've had very few chances to date women who share my values. I don't believe in sex outside of marriage & I'm only really interested in women who think the same way. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 09:54 PM
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How am I supposed to go through a lot if I'm devoutly religious (to the point where I'm totally against sex outside of marriage & baby-crazy despite being a young man) & strongly right-wing but live in an extremely secular & progressive place?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 07:57 AM
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Men also created civilization.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 09:22 AM
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Woman have in drafted in Israel since it's founding as a modern nation-state decades ago. Ukraine recently began requiring some women to register for military service.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 09:22 AM
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I plenty of average or below-average looking men who are successful with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 05:01 PM
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20 is way too young to give up. I'm 26 & I'm not ready to give up. I feel like I have no other viable option. For me the potential payoff is actually quite high. My religion forbids sex outside of marriage & strongly encourages procreation. Of course I want sex, & I'm also baby crazy. I've endured years of rejection & I'm willing to endure years more as long as there's the remotest possibility that I don't have to die a childless virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 04:54 PM
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Alternatively, North Americans will simply need to suck it up & be content either raising families in apartments or moving to the countryside (as has been the norm for decades in many of the richest parts of Asia & Europe).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 06:55 AM
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Oh shit, that sucks. Divorce/annulment seems totally justified then (IIRC even the Catholic Church allows annulment if they never had sex).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 08:39 PM
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In a healthy marriage, sex must (aside from legitimate medical reasons or massive catastrophes such as war or famine) always be frequent enough to satisfy both parties. Arbitrarily denying your spouse sex for an extended period of time is abuse, & is in some ways as bad as physical violence. If you're not willing to fulfill your marital duties, don't get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 05:54 PM
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He shouldn't consider divorce as long as she gives him consistent sex (& isn't otherwise unfaithful or abusive, either). Drunkenness & sex outside of marriage are disgusting, nasty, & evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 05:48 PM
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All autistic men are outliers. The point is, autistic men do not have to be exceptionally physically attractive to succeed at dating. They can also succeed by having a robust social circle with people who share their values, such as growing up in a large church in a rural area & retaining that church's beliefs into your adulthood, or living in a big city as a kinky, progressive person plugged into sex clubs & leftist organizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 11:24 PM
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I've met autistic men who've succeeded at dating without being exceptionally physically attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 10:05 PM
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How exactly did you find a gf on reddit at 26?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 10:04 PM
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The first option.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:58 AM
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Questions for women who are attracted to men: What is a "low-value man" to you? What is a "high-value man" to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:27 AM
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The way I see it: I expect her to submit to me. She expects me to love her. We both expect (consensual, mutually pleasing, frequent) sex from each other, as well as numerous children (unless medical reasons prevent that) & good parenting of those children.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:05 AM
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Not every little aspect of her life, but pretty much everything that majorly affects both her & her husband, or their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:01 AM
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Am I a bad person because I believe that wives should submit to their husbands?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:01 AM
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I'm good at talking about a wide range of topics, in fact women have complimented my ability to hold a conversation & my listening skills. Nevertheless, due to NVLD (more or less like Asperger's/high-functioning autism) I don't seem to have the mental capacity to be charming or funny like others guys who have a lot more success with women than me. Perhaps I can imitate that style for a short period of time, but I'd be putting on an act & the mask would fall off eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 06:00 AM
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Mary was more educated with true knowledge then most of today's "educated" Western women can comprehend. If giving enthusiastic consent to a non-sexual act is "rape", then isn't subjecting children to irreversible sex change operations also "rape"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 02:00 AM
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I want people to follow God. Mary's situation was obviously unique. Teen marriage isn't advisable in modern, Western society, though by fixating on that you're dramatically missing the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 01:57 AM
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Yes we should. She did nothing wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 09:51 PM
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If we include "pretty much anyone that has a wikipedia page", the Virgin Mary. If we want to limit ourselves to current or recent celebrities, politicians, social media stars, athletes, &c., the late Queen Elizabeth II.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 06:50 PM
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There are countless small businesses with less than 10 people. The military is divided into formations of less than 10 people at the smallest level. In America, there are even police departments with less than 10 people. All these organizations have a defined hierarchy, just like a Biblical marriage. I think you're underestimating the capacity of traditional families to be cooperative & loving.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 04:02 PM
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This isn't a genuine example of "no true Scotsman" because the Bible actually explains & defines how people are supposed to act. People who act with cunning towards their own family members are objectively not properly practicing Christianity, just like how someone who isn't a man, has no Scottish ancestry, doesn't speak Scots or Scottish Gaelic, has never been a resident of Scotland, & isn't a UK citizen genuinely is no Scotsman. I don't care about how "traditional" a "culture" is; I care about…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 03:59 PM
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That isn't an inherent feature of "traditional" marriage, though (depending on how you define the term). In my experience with traditional/religious families, such widows are provided for by some combination of their own marketable skills, funds set aside by themselves & their husbands, their surviving family members, their church community, & government retirement programs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 03:58 PM
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Equal in one sense, subordinate in another. Like the relationship between a citizen & a (good) government.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 03:55 PM
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That's generally what us conservative Christians (both men & women) believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 07:48 AM
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You're seriously mistaken if you think that submission & cooperation are opposed. Literally any social organization involves this principle, including any form of organized military, government, or business.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 07:45 AM
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My problem with it is mostly that both of our mothers are going to be completely defenseless when our fathers die, What exactly do you mean by this? and it creates a weird sometimes a weird dynamic where the father is ostracized and the whole household is acting cunningly to have him take the decision the majority wants. In a truly traditional family (at least in Christian tradition), people don't act with cunning towards each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 07:43 AM
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You're setting up false dichotomy. A relationship where the woman submits should also be cooperative. Such a wife is both a partner & a subordinate.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 07:39 AM
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Unfortunately true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 04:35 AM
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When talking too/beginning to date a woman who natively speaks a different language from you, is it weird to learn words or phrases in her language?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 03:31 AM
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No. The best way is to have that practice with your spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 01:32 AM
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the most common way men are raped is by other men, which falls under all definitions of rape. Not true. The traditional definition of rape in the English Common Law tradition is a man having vaginal intercourse with a woman (who's not her wife) against her will. Continental European definitions were often even narrower, specifying that only virgins, married women, or widows could be raped. A man forcing anal sex on another man was seen as buggery or sodomy, not rape, & (in the English Common Law…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 06:37 PM
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Yes, I'd date her. I'd feel weird but a this point I'd be happy to date anyone who minimally meets my standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 07:51 AM
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Ever? Understandable if you don't live in a big city.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 04:13 AM
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Would you really not date a guy who ticks all your other boxes but lives in a big city & feels no need to own a car?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:42 AM
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When I think of people who favour traditional gender roles my mind tends to jump to intelligent people with strong moral codes, such as my own parents or other people I've met in Christian circles. I know there are many people who favour traditional gender roles but think they themselves should be allowed to sleep around though I've never personally met anyone who admitted such things about themselves to me. I guess we can only speculate as to what percentage of people with "traditional" views a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 07:25 AM
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Female virginity is seemingly more socially valuable than male virginity, & married women sleeping around introduces paternal uncertainty to that bloodline.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 07:17 AM
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I don't want society to be like that. I don't view such societies as aspirational. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "aspirational society". I don't believe in utopianism & I tend to be skeptical of radical plans to reshape society. I have a personal preference for women marrying young & having children but I don't support abuse of power. I believe that society should go back to women marrying young and primarily being child bearers, wives, and mothers, but without the abuse or lack of freed…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 07:14 AM
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People who favour traditional gender roles are generally against divorce (except in the most extreme circumstances) & against cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 09:26 PM
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How is that the case for women who don't believe in sex outside of marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:45 PM
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Most men here are wrong. I can't speak for others, but I refuse to have sex outside of marriage. I wouldn't be willing to marry a woman who approves of sex outside of marriage, in fact I don't even know if I could knowingly date such a woman. > Yet another says a woman should “keep her legs closed” until marriage. This is the answer. Sex outside of marriage is foolish & immoral (perhaps especially so for hetero women).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 01:25 AM
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Depends on what they want out of life. Successful women who aren't extremely attractive (say, top 20% women in terms of looks) but are serious about becoming a wife & mother should be willing to marry a man who makes less money or has less social status in mainstream society than her. If she specifically wants a "trad" guy she should be willing to put aside her career to become a homemaker, even if it means a significant cut in her material standard of living. If she doesn't want any of that the…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 09:44 PM
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Everybody should save sex for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 01:58 AM
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What part of my statement is untrue?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 08:33 AM
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It's a very real example of persecution committed by progressives against an innocent victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 08:16 AM
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Defending your home is a direct extension to defending your life & the lives of others. Innocent persons trump burglars every single time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 08:14 AM
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My grandfather was tortured & threatened with death by the Securitate for preaching the gospel. I wonder where that fits into your worldview?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:59 AM
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America already has reasonable gun laws for the most part. It's countries like mine (Canada) that have unreasonably strict gun laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:57 AM
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Severe gun control & restrictions on self defence (such as lack of castle doctrine).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:56 AM
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Gun rights, self defence, freedom of religion/though/speech, general freedom to govern one's own affairs within reason (such as an individual's right to spank their children, or a nation's right to have borders.)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:55 AM
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I'm 26. I probably wouldn't marry a woman older than 30. I'm willing to go as young as 18, though I prefer women in the 20-25 range. Ideally, I'd like to have at least 4 kids, & start having them soon after marrying. Regardless of that I think big age gaps are less than ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 06:18 AM
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From our perspective, it's progressives who want to take our fundamental human rights away.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 05:58 PM
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What about someone who shares my devout religiosity (which is a huge part of why I have no relationship experience?)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 04:02 PM
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I mean it does glorify Soviet past - because of intrinsic conservative need to have an inspiring narrative about "good ole times". They use WW2 as a major point, too, as in "we are fighting fascism just like them". Yeah, this is what I was referring to by "glorifies communism". Of course they aren't a Marxist-Leninist country anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 04:57 AM
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I don't care about any such videos of potentially illegal activity, I care about Russia's actual gun laws. The information I've seen on Russian gun laws on the internet hasn't changed since 2022. Gun control in Russia - Wikipedia Here's what actual Russians have to say: (Legal) Gun ownership in Russia. : AskARussian (reddit.com) Here's an interview with a Russian gun expert who knows what he's talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBOxBo4P36A Since that video was made Putin has used a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 02:28 AM
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Everything I wrote is verifiable fact. I'm interested in what the law actually says, not what one might illegally get away with. Russian gun laws may not always be enforced strictly, but SBRs are banned & silencers require special permission. Handguns are totally banned for regular people. Russian gun laws are draconian compared to the average European country which allows handguns, AR-15s, & 20 round magazines, & lets you buy rifles as soon as you get your license, let alone American which allo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 02:01 AM
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Handguns are almost completely banned (the only exceptions being small numbers of elite sport shooters who must keep their handgun locked up at a shooting range & small numbers of retired elite military/police personnel who are exceptionally given handguns as gift). Short-barreled rifles & short-barreled shotguns are banned. There is a 5 year waiting period before being allowed to own a rifle. High capacity magazines are banned. When it comes to gun control Russia is far less pro gun than the ty…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 12:53 AM
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The genre of woman I seem to be most successful with is "artsy bisexual vegetarians" This is the type I *would* be successful with, if only I weren't a devout born-again Christian & hardline right-winger.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 09:05 PM
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There's obviously more than one party leader in Eastern Europe. A single politician doing something hypocritical or illegal actually has nothing to do with my point. My point was that opposition to mass immigration/illegal immigration, legal marijuana, or same-sex marriage is seen as unthinkably extremist here in Canada (or at least in the vicinity of Toronto) but are seen as perfectly mainstream, if conservative, positions in Eastern Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 08:03 PM
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I'm a Christian. From my perspective marriage (not other "romantic relationships", just marriage) is special because it's the only valid outlet for sexual desire + the only valid way to have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 06:40 PM
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True. I'm talking about things like immigration policy, drug laws, LGBT rights, &c.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 06:21 PM
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None.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 05:01 PM
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The rest of the world hardly cares or knows about Roe v Wade or abortion laws in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:58 PM
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Ironically enough, Russia had mask & vaccine mandates a couple of years back. Russian police were know for being quite brutal towards those who didn't comply.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:56 PM
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American conservatives who support Russia are either stupid or hypocritical. Russia has tough gun control, no real freedom of speech or religion, is subservient to Communist China, & glorifies Communism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:53 PM
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"...extremist ideas" is subjective. Ideas which are seen as moderately conservative in Eastern Europe are seen as far-right in Canada, for instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 04:51 PM
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I don't see how they're any less racist than Europeans.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 06:49 AM
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Are you familiar with the far-right in places like Ukraine, Hungary, Croatia, or Greece? I'm thinking of all Europe, not just a handful of progressive Western countries like Spain.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 07:21 PM
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As opposed to the likes of Svoboda, Jobbik, Golden Dawn, &c.? Also, even moderate Europeans across the political spectrum are militantly anti-illegal-immigrant by American standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 07:18 PM
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I don't think those are generally the same women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 06:25 AM
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The man has more responsibility because he has more authority. He may have more of a mental load, but she must defer to him on major decisions when they don't unanimously agree. Both don't necessarily have to be equal when it comes to house work & child care, either. In marriages with this dynamic, it's common for the wife to be a SAHM.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 06:24 AM
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Statistically, it is unusual.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 06:16 AM
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It's perfectly doable for a middle-class guy to be breadwinner, as long as he's willing to work dangerous or unpleasant jobs, or overtime at more comfortable jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 03:26 AM
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MAGA is progressive compared to much of the European right. Even progressive or moderate Europeans tend to be very anti-illegal immigration & generally nationalist compared to Americans.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 01:56 AM
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Thanks, you too! Traditional women from churches are generally only into traditional men from churches.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 02:48 PM
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I'd prefer to find a virgin girl, though it's entirely possible for a non-virgin to respect me. I'm part of a church.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 05:59 AM
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Giving up for me would be marrying a woman who doesn't share my faith, or who I'm not physically attracted to. Marrying a slightly chubby girl with a slight tendency to be disagreeable isn't giving up, in fact it's likely my only alternative to a life of loneliness, childlessness, & celibacy. Being slightly overweight has very little to do with the Biblical sin of gluttony, & having a disagreeable personality has nothing at all to do with the Biblical sin of contention. As a son of Eastern Europ…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 02:22 PM
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Incorrect, some of us choose to be virgins. Some of us turn down opportunities with women who don't meet our high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 01:17 AM
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No. I don't believe in sex outside of marriage, so I need to convince a woman to marry me in my virginal state.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 01:14 AM
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I'm OK with overweight women who have naturally disagreeable personalities. I can't afford to be too picky TBH.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 01:12 AM
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That may be true for normal people, but not so much for us people who are autistic or otherwise neurodivergent. If I understood the other sex pretty well, I think I, as an average looking 26 year old man in a good niche surrounded by women my age looking for a husband would've gotten past the first date at least once in almost 5 years of trying to find someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 05:05 PM
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In the past it was only socially acceptable for non-prostitute women to put out in marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:51 PM
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The minority of Israeli Jews who are devoutly religious + the significant Arab minority drive the birth rate up. Secular Israeli Jews have around replacement level fertility, only slightly higher than Nordic countries which have similarly generous social programs to Israel (IIRC). Secular Israeli society is quite feminist & otherwise progressive, though it also has a strong sense of ethno-nationalism which is constantly reinforced by their security situation. Average age at first marriage is sli…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/23 04:38 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 03:43 AM
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Not gonna lie, I'd happily marry a slightly chubby 26 year old church girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:59 AM
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Most of the non-shithole world outside of America will tax you more than America does.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:58 AM
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👀 Any chance any of those women are willing to marry a Canadian?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:56 AM
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"Traditional women" (let's say religious women who want marriage + children, & don't want sex outside of marriage) are a much smaller percentage of women in the West than in the rest of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:51 AM
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In the vast majority of cases, she chose to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 04:44 AM
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Fathers are more likely to be busy with work.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 04:33 PM
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Women with high standards may struggle to find a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 04:25 AM
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Sorry, I thought you were replying to a different comment. My proper answer to your comment > So its really birthright that decides the possibility for a traditional women? Because if a women is born into an unstable home, example raised but a liberal single mom who has drug issues, it really doesn't matter because the world she is born into is seen as low value thus she is automatically low value for marriage. Is that women born into tough circumstances can find husbands who are willing to supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 09:12 PM
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Yes. I'm simply describing the traditional viewpoint, I'm not saying it's fair. Also, there are women born in shitty circumstances who stay virgins until marriage due to becoming religious. Edit: I thought you were replying to a different comment. I was on mobile & didn't see what you were replying to. My reply seeing what you actually responded to is: No. women born into tough circumstances can find husbands who are willing to support them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 08:07 PM
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Women who have parents or husbands willing to support them don't need jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 02:29 PM
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Except for certain primitive tribal societies, waiting for marriage is a huge component of being a traditional woman. Christianity demands the same from men, though other religions & cultures (such as old European pagan society) specifically only expected this from respectable women, while allowing respectable men to be promiscuous. Traditional values are arguably at odds with redpill thought. In Christianity, high value men absolutely do suffer from sexual frustration if they for whatever reaso…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 02:26 PM
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Historically secularists have generally turned to nationalism, but that's had...questionable results.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 03:12 PM
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If you don't already have a strong friend group, I think your best bet would be some kind of political organization, labour union, or some sort of niche musical scene (heavy metal, rave, &c.).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 03:10 PM
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It's prohibited in most churches (including all theologically conservative churches, & virtually all churches outside the West).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 03:08 PM
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Except for their disapproval of casual sex, religious organizations fit the bill perfectly. The catch is that you have to be devoutly religious yourself, with beliefs in line with the group you attend. Aside from that, some people meet their partner through political organizations. (This guarantees at least some level of shared values & shared interests, just like religious groups, again with the caveat that you must believe in such a strong worldview yourself in the first place.)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 04:35 AM
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IDK, I'm a guy & I never understood numerically rating people based on looks either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 04:22 AM
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Why not both?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 02:20 AM
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I'm someone who lives in that environment & I know a lot of women who rejected mainstream society & left it in favour of our interpretation of Christianity. Ultimately, we can all point to anecdotal examples, but the total reality is much bigger than that. Internal shame attached to the enjoyment of legitimate marital sex is indeed a real issue for many, though it's ultimately a result of incorrect Biblical interpretation. In my circles church leaders have, over the past few decades, put a great…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 09:16 PM
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That depends massively on interpretation. I can't speak for Islam, but in properly interpreted Christianity, the attitude wives are to have towards their husbands is no more "slavish" than paying your taxes or showing up to work on time (in fact, I'd say that it's modern secular progressives who time & time again have shown a slavish mentality, a seen through their attitudes towards guns, "hate speech", Covid-19, &c.) Biblical rules around sex are actually a massive exception to the general duty…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 09:09 PM
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There's indeed a subset of women who love sex but abstain before marriage for religious reasons. A chaste, low n (often complete virgin) girl going on to have a healthy sex life with her husband is a reality for many religious people, though of course pornsick Redditors have a twisted idea of what a healthy sex life is. Being satisfied with vanilla sex is incomprehensible to many terminally online people. There's unfortunately a lot of truth to your generalization, but also many exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 05:30 AM
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It's not more "oppressive" to women than it is to men. It's a good rule for everyone to follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 08:52 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 02:14 PM
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Many, but not all men care about it, while some, though not most, women care about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:08 PM
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It isn't necessarily gendered, & even if it is it's perfectly fair just as preference for someone with high income is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:01 PM
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Insecurities are often a perfectly valid reason to have standards, & in the right context insulting language is perfectly valid as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 05:54 PM
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Porn in both film & picture form has been around for as long as those technologies have existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 05:50 PM
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Which province v which state? Maybe you'd pay less taxes in Alberta than in California, but generally speaking the overall tax burden is higher in Canada than in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 01:11 AM
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Yes. I specifically vet for women who believe as I do, which is that (barring legitimate medical reasons or very advanced age) frequent sex is an extremely important part of marriage, & that denying sex to your spouse for an extended period of time with no good medical reason is deeply immoral on about the same level as physical violence. If she truly loved me she wouldn't do that to me. I'd rather be alone than in a dead bedroom. I don't know if I could bring myself to leave, though I'd certain…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 05:59 AM
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I know; we all have our burdens. I almost never approach strangers in person. I know they don't care & I don't expect anything from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 08:04 PM
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That can be debilitatingly difficult for us people with autism/Asperger's/NVLD. Even after putting in massive effort, I will probably never achieve the level of social grace/social awareness that normal people automatically have without trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 07:29 PM
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My parents are ethnic Hungarians from Romania, one of the most religious & most socially-conservative people groups in Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 07:07 PM
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I don't think there is a "general consensus". It's high on my list of priorities, but I'm devoutly religious volcel virgin & my parents are immigrants from Eastern Europe. Regular men around me, in contrast, who are generally secular, sexually experienced, & much more culturally Western than myself, generally don't care about a woman's virginity, or even prefer women who aren't virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 07:23 AM
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What's better as a first date: a) dinner in a nice restaurant, or b) lunch/coffee followed by another activity such as visiting an art gallery or museum?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:33 PM
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I have NVLD (similar to autism). I'm an introvert, an only child, & have always been isolated from most of my extended family (my parents are immigrants from a different continent). As you might expect, at 25 years old I've never so much as gone on a 2nd date. What is one thing I must learn about relationships (including all human interaction, not just romance) if I have any hope of ever having a succesful marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:28 PM
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Funnily enough, out of the people OP listed, the one with the strongest connection to actual, institutional, radical leftism is Putin (he was literally a KGB officer).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 06:58 AM
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She does seem fake but I have met women who genuinely believe that women shouldn't vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 05:56 AM
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Some people are baby crazy, or just really want to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 04:59 PM
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That depends on how desperate they are too have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/23 04:48 PM
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There were institutions to help those kids in the past. The Bible & the Koran also utterly condemn prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 09:54 PM
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That isn't necessarily true. I'm a man who's generally not seen as attractive by women. I've internalized years of sexual frustration & what many would consider "misogyny". And despite all that, I like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 04:53 PM
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I know plenty of women who are happy with average or even awkward guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:25 AM
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I'd largely go about it the same way, except more passive. I don't know if I'd take a chance on short, awkward guys. I have no idea how female sexuality works, so I don't know what kind of guys I'd be attracted to. I'd definitely save myself until marriage. I might date casually though I'd do so chastely. Of course I'd dream of marrying a conventionally attractive guy; perhaps I'd end up marrying someone who wasn't very conventionally attractive, but only if I personally thought they were hot. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 06:23 AM
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I want companionship, sex, & children. I believe that having sex & having kids should be limited to marriage, but arranged marriages aren't really a thing anymore in the West, so I have no choice but to get a girlfriend & then wife her up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 05:26 AM
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What if I am autistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 10:27 PM
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Not necessarily, though I definitely don't prefer it. I'm open to marrying someone like that, at least theoretically. I strongly support the right of people to reject a potential spouse due to lack of virginity, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 10:16 PM
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"Whoredom" is one possible translation of the Greek "porneia" or Hebrew "zanah". Other translations include "fornication" or "sexual immorality". It's a perfectly Biblical & catholic word. Excommunication is something all major denominations of Christianity believe in, & the word itself has Catholic undertones in English; sometimes non-Catholics use terms like disfellowshipping or church discipline instead. I don't see what's inherently wrathful about using Biblical or Biblically-derived languag…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:00 AM
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Isn't slut shaming part of your religion? Christianity decries sex outside of marriage as "whoredom", & demands that those who refuse to repent of such acts be ritualistically shunned by excommunication.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 10:21 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:41 PM
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I suppose $50 doesn't sound too bad, but I think it may not be reasonable to have that an absolute deal-breaker. Would you really end things with a guy if you're genuinely attracted to him, you have the same views on all major religious & political issues, & you have the same life goals, simply because he occasionally splits the bill, or because he sometimes goes more than a week without taking you on a restaurant date? If you had a college-aged son who was serious about providing for his future…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 08:34 AM
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Men can present themselves one way and act another, it happens a lot What about wholesome, kind men who want to commit quickly but have to push themselves to be social, struggle to make women feel special & loved or to get along with people, & thus aren't likeable or cool?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:15 AM
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*some men I'm a 25 year old man & I'm currently struggling to find a wife. To me it seems like the phenomenon you describe applies in large part to women as it does to men, especially when it comes to young, secular, educated, urban/suburban white Westerners. I could easily say that *some* 'women will dump every guy who cares about them in their 20’s, play the field, and attempt to “find a better, hotter guy” and then are shocked when they’re 35, single, wrinkle-faced, & fat. If you want to be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:06 AM
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Yeah, I noticed that the kind of women I'm into tend to marry early. I actually know a guy who recently started seeing a woman who's almost 10 years younger than him, though that isn't common around here & I'd prefer not to do that if it can be avoided. One recurring event I've attended at another church is explicitly only for those who are 25 or younger, so in a number of months I'll be too old for that. When young adult groups have explicit age limits they're generally 18-30; the one I attend …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:13 PM
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I ask myself that a lot 😂 Only one of them gave specific reasons (she listed geographic distance, lifestyle differences, & different views on the future, though she said those were only partly why; I suspect she didn't like my looks, personality, or both.). For the most part I guess they just didn't feel attraction to or chemistry with me. Maybe some were attracted to me but had some specific standard or standards that I didn't meet, or maybe they were more into another guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:06 PM
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I know a few people who found someone after 25, though I've noticed that attractive people in the church who want to get married tend to do so by that age.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:00 PM
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They've all rejected me so far. There are currently no options at my church.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:58 PM
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I'm 25; by this point I've largely given up hope of finding someone, though I guess I'm too stubborn, too determined, & I feel too young to give up yet. I currently have no options at my local church. I'm in the process of looksmaxxing, have definite career goals I'm working hard on, & go out of my way to frequently socialize. I already frequently attend events put on by other churches or involving friends from other churches. I've already asked older people at church for help. I haven't explici…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:48 PM
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How much do you think that matters?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:36 PM
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I'm simply not compatible with non Christians 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:34 PM
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There are like-minded women in my social circles, they just keep rejecting me. You're absolutely right hat I hardly have any options.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:32 PM
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No options at my church. Women from other churches keep rejecting me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:29 PM
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I've been doing that all my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:28 PM
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Near Toronto.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:28 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:27 PM
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I attend a large young adults group at a local church. I have friends at other similar churches which I occasionally attend. Other religions absolutely are a deal breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:27 PM
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Tell me about it 😥
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:22 PM
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My sins have been forgiven. I follow God's law as much as I'm able. I don't think it's necessarily true that I'll find someone if I live right.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:21 PM
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There's currently exactly one single woman in the 18-30 age range at my church. Unfortunately, I'm not attracted to her, & I don't think she's attracted to me either. I'm a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:18 PM
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Thank you! You too!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:14 PM
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I know that the vast majority of people are incompatible with me. What do you mean "regressive"? Should parents not devote themselves to their children?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:13 PM
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How much of a difference does that make?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:11 PM
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I just want a woman who I have mutual physical attraction with, who shares my devout, born-again Christian religiosity, & who is ready to get married & have multiple children soon. Serious question: is that too much to ask for? AMA about myself & my experiences with women if you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 06:27 PM
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Interesting. In reality, Western men are generally less racist than non-Western men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 05:15 PM
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I grew up & live in the West but my parents are from Eastern Europe, & most of my extended family live in Eastern Europe. I'm generally not a fan of Western women. I'm a devout, born-again Christian (what English-speakers generally refer to as "Evangelical"). Here I'm considered a hardline right-winger, though where most of my family live I'm be considered more or less moderate. I know that us "Evangelicals" are a fringe minority in Eastern Europe just as we are here, but most of the hate we get…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 03:35 PM
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Anyone who's been here for long knows that you're an unusual man. (Not that I pretend to be normal myself).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 06:45 AM
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You really need to qualify pretty much all of those statements with "some men", or perhaps "most men". (..."so called average men involved in RP" in your 2nd paragraph is fair phrasing, but your unqualified use of "men" in your 1st & last paragraphs is absurd). Us men who want marriage struggle. I would say that, on average, we struggle more than men who just want to be "chad". I could probably get a relationship with a "regular average woman" pretty easily...the problem is that regular average …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 06:43 AM
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No offence but when you in your other comments demand that men pay 100% for frequent dates regardless of circumstances, or complain that modern men can't support a family, you come across as "prioritizing self image, having a super car or nice vacations, or having an expensive home in the suburbs". There are plenty of middle-class men who can support a family, but only if their wife is happy with a simple life, & if such men are still in school or recently graduated from school then taking women…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 06:26 AM
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There's more to life than money, though if you're a middle class person in a 1st world country you can almost certainly give your kids a materially comfortable life anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 05:51 AM
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One strongly religious, demanding and judgmental. His demands on women were so high that although there was interest from many good women in him, he was not able to find a woman who would suit him. And sex only after marriage. I hope I'm not like this. In what ways exactly was he too demanding? I'm strongly religious & tend to be demanding & judgmental, though I try to keep my standards as low as reasonably possible & make a huge, deliberate effort to be accommodating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 11:34 PM
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Some queer people may worry about pregnancy, technically.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 04:44 AM
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"Based" in contexts like this is slang meaning that I think your actions or opinions are cool, commendable, & courageous. By commenting the word "Based", I was expressing the sentiment that "I commend you for the integrity you display by being celibate & by having no truck with loose women".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 04:14 AM
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I always thought that chastity referred to current conduct. A former sex worker who currently doesn't sex have would be chaste, whereas a woman who lost her virginity to her first & current boyfriend she's currently in a sexual relationship wouldn't be chaste.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 03:55 AM
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You're thinking of a very specific subset of Western progressives. I highly doubt that the global average left wing person is especially promiscuous. Around half the world's population (including roughly half of America's population) are left wingers of some sort, & most of them are socially moderate or socially conservative by Western standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 03:50 AM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 03:39 AM
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In my case, I simply lowered my standards. I still don't know if I could actually bring myself to marry a woman with a past of whoredom, though I'm at least theoretically open to dating such a woman & seeing how it goes. I guess it would depend on how bad it is (a few boyfriends I can overlook, though not actual prostitution) & how otherwise attractive she is (which includes not just looks but religiosity, worldview, & life goals). In this case I didn't exactly decide to lower my standards in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 03:37 AM
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Marital sex is a deep, spiritual act.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:18 AM
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The USA has legalized prostitution in certain counties of Nevada. The situation in Singapore is complicated. Technically, the act itself is legal but organized prostitution such as in brothels is illegal, though in practice brothels are unofficially tolerated by police in certain areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:17 AM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:17 AM
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Strict religious people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:13 AM
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For the most part, women didn't end "starving to death on the street" simply for not finding a husband. They were supported by their extended family or perhaps relied on charity. People of all ages & genders did end up starving to death on the street in cases of famine or other catastrophe, but that had nothing to do with marriage.
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 03:57 PM
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Even people who are "short+ugly and or autistic" can have a shot, actually.
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/23 03:54 PM
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Women having children out of wedlock is better than them aborting those children, though it's still far from ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 03:41 PM
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I grew up in a dying church; by the time I finished high school there was literally no one left in my age group. The church I attend now doesn't have options either. Going to a religious university didn't make sense to me straight out of high school, & at this point I wouldn't be able to afford it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 10:50 PM
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I've been trying for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 09:55 PM
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Because I'm a virgin myself, I'm devoutly religious, & I'm marriage/family oriented.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 09:54 PM
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Not gonna lie, I am indeed seriously considering moving to a different country. I've already dropped my standards in that I'm potentially open to a non-virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 09:12 PM
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I'm virgin for religious reasons though, & getting married in high school or freshman year of college seems too young in modern society. Around what age do you think us religious virgin men should get married?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 09:11 PM
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Romance, economic stability, sex, children.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 06:25 AM
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I'm thinking of women who are religious or of non-Western background for whom cheating is unthinkable, maybe even illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 03:40 PM
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I'm 25 myself & want a big family, so it would make a lot more sense for me to choose the first option. I intend to make her a milf!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 08:54 AM
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Average men can afford to cover 100% of their wives' expenses, but only if they work long hours or have an unpleasant/dangerous jobs, & only if said wives are content living a simple lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 08:52 AM
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I want a big family, so the 21 year old makes a lot more sense for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 08:48 AM
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What if they recently graduated & are looking for work?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 08:41 AM
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Plenty of them don't cheat. If anything, I'd imagine that women who don't bring in income are less likely to cheat than those who split 50/50.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 08:39 AM
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I would much rather date a 21 year old who expects me to pay for dates than a 30 year old who splits them 50/50. I'm absolutely not paying for her rent, food, shopping costs &c. before we marry regardless of her age. Concerning marriage, I would also choose the 21 year old & pay all the bills. I don't necessarily see a 21 year old as "in her prime".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 08:37 AM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 05:25 AM
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Nobody has any issues with their daughters sleeping with hundreds of men for free lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 07:17 AM
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The men who see the value in marriage are already doing the damn thing, comments from the perpetually single peanut gallery are not going to dissuade a guy who's hyped about spending the rest of his life with his girl. Plenty of us marriage-minded men are struggling to find someone, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:02 PM
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What do you think I could do to mitigate that without violating my values?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:00 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 09:04 PM
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The US currently has a homeownership rate of 66% & a fertility rate of 1.7. Sweden's respective rates are 65% & 1.7. France: 65% & 1.8. Israel (as mentioned previously): 65% & 2.9. New Zealand: 65% & 1.8. Denmark: 59% & 1.7. (The Faroe Islands, a separate Danish territory which is similarly developed & wealthy as the mainland, has a birth rate of 2.3. I can't find homeownership statistics for them but I would guess that it's very high because there are no large cities there.) Turkey: 58% & 1.9. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 03:47 PM
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Some pro-lifers are against IVF.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:42 AM
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Home ownership is nice but it isn't strictly necessary to raise kids. Plenty of Asians & Europeans raise kids in rental housing under comfortable, middle-class conditions. Israel has an above-replacement birth rate, higher than any other 1st world country; their homeownership rate is lower than America's, & IIRC most homeowners there live in condos, not single-family homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:40 AM
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I'd be cool with it. I'd actually prefer such a lifestyle, but my wife probably is going to work even we have kids for the simple fact that most marriageable women around me seem to prefer that, so I can't afford to be too picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 04:48 AM
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It matters to me for numerous reasons. I'm a virgin myself. I believe that all sex outside of marriage is sinful. I'm only interested in women who utterly condemn fornication just as I do. I also tend to be jealous & insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:59 AM
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I don't know how poor my social skills actually are at this point. I'm naturally awkward in that area but I've put tremendous effort into improving my social skills. I hardly get matches on OLD. I've gotten used to forcing myself to be assertive when it comes to OLD & texting, but IRL I think women can tell that I'm naturally awkward & nervous.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 06:43 AM
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I'm such a religious volcel. I'm happy to date "mediocre" women. I'm definitely not waiting for Ms Perfect, just someone who shares my values & I have mutual attraction with. In my experience, this is generally what religious people seek.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:20 AM
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According to your description, all or virtually all of the women I've dated have been "mediocre". It's women like this who keep rejecting me!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:18 AM
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What am I supposed to do if I have NVLD (basically autism as far as social skills are concerned) & I tend to not be assertive enough when it comes to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:14 AM
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Nah, most average-looking virgin men like that really are religious. I know because I am one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 02:40 AM
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Yes!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 01:38 AM
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I know that only a minority of "religious" people take their faith seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 10:56 PM
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Privileged, young, college-educated white Westerners who live in or near big cities are overrepresented on Reddit. Such people tend to irreligious & liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 09:48 PM
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So you want someone who got widowed or had to leave an adulterous or neglectful wife 3 times? Or someone who doesn't take their faith seriously, or doesn't understand their faith? Serious, knowledgeable Christians don't have sex outside of marriage. Many of them refuse to remarry if they have a living ex spouse, & even the more liberal ones who are OK with such remarriage will nevertheless only divorce in the first place if their spouse commits some heinous wrong against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 09:44 PM
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I second being attracted to Middle Eastern women, especially if they wear their hair naturally & don't get plastic surgery 😍
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 09:39 PM
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What about women who is neither a liberal nor an obnoxious social media "trad"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 09:35 PM
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No offence, but why would a Catholic want to marry an atheist like you, & why do you think such a mixed marriage would be ideal? (Or do you wish you were Catholic? Or do you dream of converting the Catholic love of your life to atheism?)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 09:18 PM
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Dark brown. Green, blue, or maybe grey. 5'5" to 5'10". Hourglass, skinny, or slightly-pear-shaped-but-not-too-fat. Makes less than me (assuming that I'm established in my career by this point). Once we marry I'd prefer that she either work from home part time or make no money at all. I don't really care about job status. Equal to me I guess? Once we marry I'd prefer that she either work from home part time or make no money at all. I don't really care how many people she dated, though I suppose 0…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 09:16 PM
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Until recently, oral sex was largely taboo in Western society, even banned in many places.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 06:28 AM
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I don't want it! Many other men don't either. I think that almost no people genuinely desire it, it's just something normalized by porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 06:22 AM
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None of the things you list are beneficial to men. Casual sex, porn, &c. are harmful. True, legitimate, sexual satisfaction can only be a found in a loving marriage, & that seems more out of reach than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 06:00 AM
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Many are, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 04:57 AM
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I'm upset by anti-patriarchy talk because I think patriarchy helps both men & women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:49 PM
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It's no different from men wanting validation. It's fine to want it on some level, I think we all do, but excessively wanting validation from other people is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:46 PM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:41 PM
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That's not necessarily the case for women who are ugly, antisocial, or have limited options because their religious or political views are fringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:39 PM
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I got to bars occasionally but I only drink moderately. I know others, both men & women, who do the same, but I know we're outliers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:37 PM
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There were plenty of arranged marriages with strangers more than 120 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:34 PM
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if the friend is clearly interested I have NVLD (kinda like Asperger's or autism) & I have a poor track record of being able to tell. Over the years I've asked out several women I met through social circles; every single one of them has rejected me so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:33 PM
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Peterson is barely even a conservative. He's essentially a moderate liberal who thinks that Western progressivism has gotten a bit out of hand in recent years.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 04:34 AM
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Fornication, drunkenness, or recreational use of tobacco, marijuana, or any hard, illegal, or psychedelic drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:35 AM
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Easier said than done. Also, doing that won't automatically fix your social life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 01:46 PM
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Looks like we fundamentally disagree. I think marriage should be a part of life for the vast majority of normal people, not just those at the top of the social order. It's definitely possible for introverted nerds to find relationships, be high status, or both. Some women want nerds, & some women don't mind nerds as long as they're otherwise attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 12:08 AM
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Where & how are introverted nerds supposed to meet compatible women, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:06 PM
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If you have genuine faith you'll eventually accept what the Bible teaches regardless of how bad it seems to to mainstream society. You don't get to pick & choose based on your feelings. It's possible to respect people without idolizing them. There are numerous relationships that necessarily require submission. Paying taxes to the government is a submissive act, for example. When it comes to marriage in particular, don't forget that husbands are required to love their wives as Christ loved the Ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 03:34 PM
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Most genuine attractive guy, maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 02:40 PM
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I don't agree with him. I pray that I'd never do such a thing regardless of my position. I don't believe in that redpill alphabeta stuff, but I definitely think he's a sexual loser. True sexual success for a man is having a wife you have a strong marriage & good sex life with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 07:21 AM
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Patriarchy exists & it's beneficial to women & to society as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 03:50 PM
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In what times & places in the West were women "literally institutionalized for reading" to a large, systematic extent, that didn't also apply to men? Men were also punished for sex outside of wedlock; in the case of homosexuality, they were generally punished much more harshly & consistently than women. Teenager marriages are allowed almost everywhere in the world today, & even many technically underage people are probably able to give informed consent to marriage. Large-scale, systematic witch …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 03:49 PM
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I'm love to date on the spectrum, but I have such limited opportunities that I have no choice but to be open to NT women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 03:42 PM
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I'm likely on the spectrum myself (not yet diagnosed with autism, though I am diagnosed with NVLD) & I'd absolutely date a woman on the spectrum, in fact I prefer it. I'm not sure that women on the spectrum have it easier than men with ASD overall. They may have an easier time getting dates but that doesn't mean that meeting someone they have mutual attraction, compatible values, & compatible goals with is easier for them. IIRC they're also more likely to be abused or taken advantage of. An ASD …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 03:40 PM
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No, but I plan on doing so in the near future!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 03:32 PM
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He was only able to work from home full time for a short period. Much of the time he's worked from home in addition to a 40 hour or so a week office job, with a commute that has often been more than an hour 1 one way. When I was very little & before I was born his jobs were exclusively outside the home, though to be fair he did not work quite that many hours back then (he often did overtime, but weekends & holidays were usually free). He did indeed help look after me when I was little. Maybe you…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:45 AM
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The cost of living compared to wages has dramatically increased since I was little. Hiring maids or cooks is less possible for middle-class breadwinners than it was in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:04 AM
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Not if you live in a HCOL area but want to be a homeowner, need a car to get to work, want to help your kids pay for college, & want to have a modest vacation or go to a nice restaurant once or twice a year.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 04:02 AM
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That's blatantly false in my experience. My dad has worked 60+ hours a week for most of his life; him & my mom have one of the best marriages I've ever encountered. He's always made time for my mom & I. Their lifestyle seems far better than the average Western lifestyle I see around me. My mom has indeed worked part time for most of that time. My dad's done much of his work from his home office, which has made it easier for him to spend time with mom & I than would otherwise be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 03:57 AM
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someone making that kind of money can hire help. That's not necessarily true. My parents were immigrants in a HCOL area when I was young. My dad worked 60+ hours most weeks while my mom stayed at home. They literally would not have been able to afford a maid with any regularity. This is the case for many middle & lower income families.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 03:46 AM
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What if you work 60+ hours a week & have hardly any free time while your wife is a SAHM?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 03:35 AM
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What about breadwinner men who often work on weekends or during vacations?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 03:32 AM
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Absolutely not. No AI can satisfy my desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 07:48 PM
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As a man today you need to have the full package. Looks, height, social skills, money. That's not necessarily the case, especially if you nichemaxx/socialmaxx. I know plenty of young men in happy relationships, even marriages, who lack one or more of those. Going to the gym, eating well, & cold exposure certainly don't hurt your chances, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 02:36 PM
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Do people change in bathrooms there?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 04:55 PM
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That wouldn't be wise for me. I'm a 25 year old man but my experiencematch would be a high school age girl 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 09:49 PM
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I agree. I'm more or less the kind of person you describe. I would never even date, let alone marry or have kids with a woman who believes that abortion should be legal for any reason but to save the mother's life, isn't a devout Christian, or is personally pro-LGBT. I am, however, potentially open to a woman who shares all these personal values but happens to vote for a different party from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 05:08 AM
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No, that's a myth. Medically necessary abortions are legal in every state, & no state bans miscarriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 04:58 AM
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Among young, educated people, devout religiosity is rare in Ireland. I'm not familiar with Irish pub culture so things might be different there, but here in Canada the devoutly religious tend not to frequent bars that much, even if they drink moderately.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 06:07 AM
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Most of the pastors I see teach such relationships are otherwise regular people why happen to believe in the Bible & are neithers abusers nor enablers of abuse. We can trade anecdotes all day long.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 05:56 AM
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The point is that your point is wrong. Many people risk having autistic children with full knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 12:11 AM
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Not everyone indulges in such circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 12:08 AM
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It usually comes from a place of pain, & it always comes from a place of either ignorance or evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 12:07 AM
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I wonder how many of them are low functioning, & how many don't even particularly want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 05:32 PM
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I've met autistic men who were happily married with children.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 05:30 PM
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Many of the sub's participants are on the spectrum themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 05:29 PM
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guys try to force me to do things I didn’t want to do This is a character problem on their part & has nothing to do with autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 05:28 PM
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Incorrect. Many autistic people may actually have too much empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 05:27 PM
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Based on my experience, I'd say 5 or less of them would be willing to go out with me based only my looks + their preliminary impression of my personality. If they were fully aware of my religious & political views & they were normal women from my area, that number would likely be 0. If they were all born-again Christians & right-wingers like myself, the number would still be below half, probably no more than 10, though it's hard for me to think about it because it's so rare for me to meet single…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 10:20 PM
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Yes, I'd absolutely date, even marry, a Plain Jane. I'd happily marry someone who looks like example 2 with less tattoos, or Example 3. (Possibly even Example 1 if I got to know her & like her personality; it's not the best picture of the woman in question). I'd say that all the women I've gone on dates with & most of the women who've rejected me are more or less average looking for their age & social class, & that I myself am average looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 05:58 AM
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Severe lack of options + tend not to go to pubs too often.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:13 PM
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Canada's probably better than America as far as dating is concerned...as long as you're secular & liberal. If you're a right-winger & devout Christian like me it's awful. (At least in my experience). In my social circles East Asian & South Asian men seem to do much better than what people on this sub describe to be the case in America. I'm not sure why that's the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:25 AM
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How do people who don't drink much, are deeply religious, or are introverted find someone in Ireland?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:15 AM
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I live in Canada, so outside the USA but inside North America. The think the dating culture here is about the same as the US, which I consider to be bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:13 AM
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I'd immediately lock down a wife. My behaviour wouldn't change (at least I hope so!), I'd just get married quickly because, as you say, I essentially have my pick of women. I'd continue to abstain from sex outside of marriage, & once I do get married I'd treat her well. I don't see why my attractiveness should change how I treat her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 09:53 PM
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For me it's a matter of religious dogma. I'm not exactly a macho guy. Personally, I'd prefer egalitarian marriage. Nevertheless, I believe that the Bible clearly teaches male leadership in marriage & I'm convinced that the Bible, properly interpreted, must be followed even when it doesn't seem to make sense. I'm not sure why or to what extent men are more capable leaders than women, though like I said the Bible seems to be clear when it comes to marriage. Aside from explicit commandments in plac…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 09:47 PM
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And as another person mentioned, education is actually very important to men who are also educated. I don't think even educated men care as much about a woman's education as women care about a man's, on average. I have both a university diploma & a college degree & I don't much care how much formal education my future wife has though I acknowledge that I'm an extreme outlier. I agree that it's a socioeconomic/class issue. Even though I'm young, white, native-born, well educated, & from a suburba…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 02:45 AM
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I always thought middle class men are more into doing housework than working class men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 01:32 AM
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They've been moving to other states with cheaper farmland for more than a century. Going back further, cheap farmland was one of the reasons they initially moved to America from modern day Germany/Switzerland. Many of the Old Order Mennonites here in Ontario have adapted by shifting focus from commercial agriculture to skilled trades (though of course both are still significant, & all adherents continue to live in the countryside & grow their own food even if they no longer primarily make a livi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 12:13 AM
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Well, those are generally the only guys who want to marry young.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 06:07 AM
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Based
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 01:59 AM
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Most of the people I know in happy marriages met their spouse before 25. Many even got married before 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 01:54 AM
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Unfathomably based
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 08:02 PM
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Do you mean you haven't fond any men like whom you're attracted to? I know plenty of 20-something me who want to settle down & get married. I am one myself. There are plenty of us in church, in Christian colleges, & in Christian ministries at secular colleges. I do agree that the most attractive among us tend to get locked down early, though of course the same is true for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 08:00 PM
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Most married women didn't work for money until ~1970.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:54 PM
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We don't. We just have a federal guideline which is often followed by lower levels of government when it comes to providing subsidized housing. Overall we do definitely have less freedom than Americans, however.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:53 PM
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It can be done, but illegally, at least if you have a boy and a girl it's illegal in Canada to not have 3 bdrms. This isn't quite the case. There's a federal guideline that boys & girls over the age of 5 shouldn't share a bedroom, which is often followed by provincial & municipal social housing providers. 'But many subsidized housing managers told CBC that they do follow the National Occupancy Standard on how many bedrooms are needed for suitable housing, because they believe that gives them acc…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:50 PM
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How's that supposed to work if you don't believe in sex outside of marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 09:52 PM
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How do you want your future daughter to be treated by men one day? I don't care whether or not the men she'll one day date pay for dates. There are so many more important things in the area of how men treat her for me to be concerned about. I, personally, have no problem paying for dates, though I don't feel strongly about it & I don't understand people who do. As an aside, my dad never took my mum on fancy dates before they married (though to be fair they grew up in a shithole dictatorship wher…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 07:41 AM
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Nobody's forcing you to do your hair or wear makeup or a cute dress to coffee or going for a walk dates. I know plenty of people who got married from a casual first date of coffee or a walk. If there's mutual attraction & compatible values than none of that other stuff matters. Although many of my friends go on dates just for fun or did so before their current relationship, I personally always saw going on a date with someone I can't actually see myself marrying as a waste of time, money, & ener…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 07:12 AM
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got kicked out of his church for making a woman in the congregation There must be more to the story.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:48 AM
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I have few opportunities to meet compatible women, so I'm very much open to getting set up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 05:40 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 12:19 PM
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