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ahahhahah. Ohman no I don't Can you possibly come up with a more condescending yet also more pointless question? Like your smug tude isn't even making any sort of point. I get it, you're a nonsense person here to argue about nothing. bye bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 03:04 AM
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uhhh, not entireley, like this kid wasn't just locked up, but wasjust raised with a chimp and like a chimp in various ways. This Guy Simultaneously Raised a Chimp and a Baby in Exactly the Same Way to See What Would Happen | Smart News| Smithsonian Magazine
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 03:02 AM
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Yea it has no basis in reality at all I'm sure just completely made up entirely. s./ Most people base their behavior off what is considered normal in their peer group.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 02:58 AM
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Hmm, I've been hated by men and women alike! Dogs are great. but really, there are some cool men, and some cool women. Sadly, it seems like its mostly older women who are cool. Anyone who grew up with the internet is nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 02:43 AM
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You shoot anyone who isn't your kin. This will be mostly an olfactory thing for the ones raised by bears. They'll be able to smell anyone who isn't kin. Dumb libs scientists don't know what kids r capable of cus they never let them b raised by wolves n bears. In all seriousness decades ago there was a couple who decided to raise their kid and dog identically. Or maybe it was a monkey. But the kid was non verbal still by age 8 or so so it did not work out well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 02:25 AM
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Well yea there won't be any standardized curriculum for them really. Some will learn different things but they'll all have a clan to back them up. They'll all start shooting on their first birthday, And really, even the ones that are kind of feral and non verbal can still learn to shoot guns, and should be fully capable of handling full automatics by age ten or so. You don't need to have verbal skills to operate a machine gun. I'm sure a chimp could it's just that scientists are always trying to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 02:21 AM
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Well I mean obviously some are really going end up being raised by each other or local wildlife, bears and the like ya know. That'll be good though. It'll help teach them the skills they need to survive in a changing world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 02:11 AM
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Everyone hates people, man. Don't hate women in general. But returning hostility to individuals who disrespect you is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 02:06 AM
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Not disputed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 02:05 AM
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Well I think only a small minority of guys will be able to pull this off... So women feel like they are a high level because the guy is high value or whatever. But also, there's some new fangled fart sniffing ideas about breaking the patriarchy and women lib that make it really easy for hedonists to delude themselves that they're brave warriors for progressing society and all the shame they feel is just societal conditioning. This is very much reinforced by peer pressure group think etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 01:56 AM
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Someone who's fetish it is to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 01:53 AM
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I mean, nothing stopping you from making fun of her wrinkled ol cunnie too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 01:52 AM
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Personally, sometimes people ask if I really want to have kids, being them into this world ya know? And I say well if you only have a couple kids maybe they'll have it rough but if you have fifty or so there is strength in numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 01:51 AM
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not misusing anything. You used the term fake news to create the very much false perception that there is scientific consensus., which is gaslighting. Either that or you're just too dense to understand how science works either way zero reason to interact with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 12:06 AM
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Yea as I've already said when you start with gaslighting I'm done with you. Go away before I block you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 11:28 PM
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Already answered, you this dumb?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 04:02 PM
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nope when you start with gaslighting theres clearly no reasoning withyou. Bye. No, I didn't bother to look why the fuck would I? If you weren't an idiot, you would have posted PRIMARY sources. Why wouldn't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:43 PM
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weikpedia isn't a source. What source is listed on the wiki page? If there is none, its not a source. I'm not bent out of anything. I'm just straightforward, and when people gaslightme, I meet it with outright hostility. I'm not raising my voice at all so to speak, just sincerely telling you fuckyou with your fake news nonsense gaslighting bullshit. Cus even if you do find a source, a single source does not establish scientific consensus and the complete lack of existence of any data to the cont…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:11 PM
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fuck you. You've provided no sources whatsoever you have no right to say what I say is fake news. Seriously and sincerely fuck you. Its also just anti science, fakenews? seriously? Even if you DID have a study supporting this, it doesn't mean there aren't other studies with other data you fucking hack.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:49 PM
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Unfair to who? Your competition or your potential partner? Cus starting off a relationship with dishonesty and manipulation isnt going to be a good idea. Like, you want to find a good woman who is a good match for you, not trick someone who isn't a good match into thinking they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:34 AM
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I don't give a damn what I look like to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:34 PM
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Ahahahah Someone elses conversation? its an open message board. Main charecter syndrome much? And you're justbackpeddling. Its obvious to anyone with a brain you were complaining about it/ Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:23 PM
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if you're saying you can see why they're banning them, you're saying you view them as a problem. THats just basic simple logic. You're supporting the banning of them. I mean, sure if your comment was purely explanation, but there's more of a tone of taking one side... I mean literally just your way of describing it, is that new people show up and want to discuss things 'those of us who have been here have seen many times before' You're talking about your experience here as if its the relevant th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 10:12 PM
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New people wanting to discuss things you've seen before. Your own words.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 09:56 PM
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I'm not the one complaining about the fundamental nature of this site and that people post similar things as people before. It's inherent I. The design.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 09:28 PM
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If you couldn't change the world by yelling at clouds, would you still do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 09:20 PM
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I highly doubt leg lengthening surgery has ever been a still beaten dead horse around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 09:04 PM
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Dude this is reddit in general. You don't like this go somewhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 09:03 PM
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I've for sure heard its ok for her to flirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 07:35 AM
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Lol, your statement has NOTHING to do with mine. This isn't a question about whether or not to try to defend yourself against an attacker, its a post daydreaming delusionally about doing so with a level of ability that is not based in reality. Its clearly emotionally gratifying fantasy for the OP. So yea, isn't there like, anything good about women except becoming more like men? And do you have a source on that number? Are you certain its perfectly accurate? No chances of male victims having low…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 07:19 AM
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You need to understand the difference between rhetorical and sarcastic. Have a great day. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 07:05 AM
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Yea I know. Thats what I said. Did you like, mentally add a /s to my comment or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:41 AM
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Fighting isn't MY identity, when did I say that? Are you not going to answer any of my questions? ​ But aggression, strength, etc these are masculine traits. And theres this huge movement with feminists, not to just embrace and love femininity and womanhood, but to just be like, we can do what men can do. You can see it between the lines inyour post, we can see it with marvel movies etc, they just take super masculine characters and give them tits. Seems like a bit of an identity crisis, and thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:30 AM
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And the opposite is never true is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:37 AM
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The bone density difference is huge as well. It would take far more force to crush a man's skull than a woman's. And if it's a man's fist doing it it'll be far more durable than a woman's.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:37 AM
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You run out of juice. Speak for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:36 AM
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This only true for a man unwilling to hurt a woman, which is thankfully most men, were just completely unwilling to cause harm to women or children because that's the way it should be. But if a man doesn't have this inhibition? Hell smash your skull and not bother pinning you down. You also have no idea what training he has. Chances are he is more familiar with violence than you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:34 AM
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Obviously you use your penis to poke him in the eye?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:32 AM
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Gouged out lots of eyes then have you? Bit of an expert on the topic huh? Why do women need to coopt .masculinity? Like the big strong tough can fight thing? Why do women need to be like we can do that just like any man? Don't women have like, their own thing at all? Like their own identity, maybe the ability to solve things through means other than aggression? Nah masculinity is so toxic you've just got to imitate it. And it's also just not true. The most skilled women fighters in the world wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:27 AM
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Shhh, you're not supposed to say that phrase... I think its taboo on reddit, no one ever has before, I always heard there is a legend using the phrase here will break the entire site, so no one has ever been brave or foolish enough to try. ;) Thanks though, and seriously, you only gain respect by acceding that, so props.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 02:57 AM
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That doesn't mean there won't be power imbalance. There would still be hetero relationships and oddly lesbians have higher rates of domestic violence than hetero couples. But there would still be a variety of power imbalances. There always are in every relationship. Age money size and strength... Really though all those power balances get turned on their head. A ninety pound woman who is just perfectly fine manipulating gaslighting shaming guilt tripping and also hitting threatening etc, she abs…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 02:38 AM
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Again how would this remove any power imbalance? Come on man I can't read your thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 02:23 AM
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I asked why. Stop just saying shit as if it's self evident and provide some support, evidence, at least some reasoning or explanation. Tomorrow I'm going to have a fifty foot cock. Don't ask how or why it's just reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 01:08 AM
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They want a confident leader who bows to a boss bitch so they can get sick of him and feel justified monkey branching. At least the cluster b women I date are this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 11:26 PM
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I should really shame you for that... But I guess I'll rise above it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 10:58 PM
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Why on earth would people stop having to worry about rape etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 10:57 PM
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Lol at tarp up. Picturing a big blue plastic tarp.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 10:53 PM
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Herpes is virtually endemic. Those women most likely already have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 10:52 PM
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nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 07:55 PM
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From what i've seen most women are high in compassion, very low in empathy. They can feel for you if they can relate, but they cannot imagine something they cannot relate to. They cannot put themselves in the shoes of someone who truly has a different perspective. I'm not sure this is exactly a common trait for men either, but I dont' date men, so I notice it in women. I do think the contrast of the higher compassion and lower empathy seems abit more pronounced in women. I do think perhaps this …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 05:38 AM
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This seems fine. So many times though, girls male friends are like, a former or even on and off again lover, or a guy that so clearly wants to be. 9 years is a long time to be firends and not date. I'd think by that time, if you were ever going to have something happen between you, it would have already. If it hasn't by 9 years, through multiple periods of you both going tyhrough breakups being single etc, it probably isn't going to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:40 PM
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Actually, this can be the same woman. The kinds of women who are too quick to get with a guy, and will never take things slow, because they're lonely and feel some hunger for validation attention love etc, are also often the girls who will NOT be emotionally open, honest, trusting or trustworthy. She's always looking for a new source of her supply, so she will assume you are too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:02 PM
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They don't like feeling alone, so need someone to text all the time. Also addicted to their phones. They don't feel safe meeting a stranger, but have a irrational process for becoming ok with meeting in person, that mostly involves familiarity from having been talking a little bit. They feel societal judgement about being a whore, and some absolutely arbitrary length of time to text before fucking helps them with their cognitive dissonance about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 12:25 AM
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Rigifd? the topic was the statement you made, that i"m asking you to defend. Its really fucking simple. you're making it complicated because you're stupid and can't actually resond reasonably. ​ You can give unrelated nonsequitor examples of toxic behavior but they prove nothing other than ohtheres bad behavior in the world. They do not prove that a relationship without those is based on ownership or the perception of such. Its based on agreement and your word., something adults are capable of u…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 06:24 PM
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you repeatedly say things as if they are true, just because you want to beleiuve them, with NO demonstration for WHY they are true. DEscribe how I'm displaying any cognitive dissonance. I see none. I don't disagree about owning people, I disagree with your assertion that people act like they own other people adn that this is widespread. You have not demonstrated that this is the case. THe ONLY thing you have to say is that 'people feel this way' with nothing else. ​ What examples do you have to …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 05:06 PM
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Feigning ignorance of real world attitudes> WTF does that even mean? ​ Its real simple. Explain how an agreemnent equals ownership., and its common for people to act like they own other people. Saying people do feel like this is true isn't demonstrating it o be true,. You ramble on about a bunch of shit I never said. I never said anything about wanting to fight someone for sleeping with my girlfriend. You're arguing with someone other than me. ​ All I've asked, is to demonstrate that an agreemen…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 04:43 PM
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I didn't use the phrase "just an agreemet" If you're going to put something in quotes, use an actual quote, not a strawman. And I wouldn't say just an agreement, your word is not a trivial thing. An agreement is sacred. You haven't made ANY argument. Mine is not semantical. Prove yourpoint. How is an agreement ownership? You have not and cannot answer this becauseyou're not a serious person, you don't seek truth, you just think shit that is emotionally gratifying to you and sniff your own farts.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 03:54 PM
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No, an agreement between people to be exclusive is an agreement between two adults, how is that ownership?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 03:29 PM
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Lol, you're fucking dense. Stop obfuscating. I wasn't agreeing with them, how could I be if I didn't even know their argument? I was disagreeing with one statement you made, namely, that people act like other people are their property and this is widespread. I have repeatedly asked you to demonstrate how this is the case, and you are utterly incapable of doing so, being only capable of saying shit you find emotionally gratifying. Its really simple, I disagreed with something YOU said, and have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 02:50 PM
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I never said that. You literally just made this up and put words in my mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 12:23 PM
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Yes but you've made blanket statements is if they have broader truth than just in your conversation with this other person. You've repeatedly said that people act like they own other people in our society, and I'm asking you to show that happening. So far you have not shown that happening. I don't think that it is the way our society is. i think its a view that is emotionally gratifying to you and does not match reality. An agreement between two adults to be exclusive isn't one owning the other,…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 03:10 AM
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You still haven't demonstrated that what you say is true now you're just making ad hominems. Maybe some dude earlier sadi that, well than you've got an argument with him to point out problems with what he said. he does not speak for everyone, and society isn't the way you say it is. How do we treat people like possessions? And yes, I would kill to protect any woman I cared about from a rapist or murderer if I had to. Wouldn't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 02:37 AM
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How do people treat other people like they own them? An agreement between adults for monotony isn't signifying ownership unless it's only monogomy for one partner only. You keep just saying people act like they own each other is of it's self evident but it isn't. You haven't shown it to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:49 AM
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And I'm saying everyone does not act like we own people, and you have not demonstrated that is how people act.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:44 AM
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How do we act like that? You just demonstrated that we do not, not that we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 01:07 AM
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I'd go mormon first. Get me some multiple wives, spawn a whole clan of offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 03:45 PM
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Wow this is illogical. If its not automatic, and without any sort of variability or exceptions, then it doesn't exist at all in any way at all. Walk around like you're entitled to sex, and eventually some women will find that attitude attractive but most will be disgusted, especially if you outright just say hey i'm rich. Likeyou talk about this word status, its just money right? Actual status is more than money, its like, do you ahve a job that helps people or is exciting or something? etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 03:44 PM
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because thats not who they are looking for in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:19 AM
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Whats the point of this post? Just to tell people theres something wrong with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 05:47 PM
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Lol, so your perceptions about what is a normal quality of life are entirely based on tv shows? And really, it seems like, just ONE tv show? The wealth gap is increasing. The rich are getting richer, you're right about that, but everyone else is getting poorer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 02:57 PM
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you represented fa false dichotomy, a choice between two extremes when in reality many societies exist in the space in between. I provided this rebuttal which you ignored. You're obviously fucking stupid. I'm out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 09:42 PM
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You are a defeatist hack. and you're lying you clearly stated "we can win this election' there is a clear implication of being firmly on one side. Either thator you just don't make any sense. The two party system is closer to breaking than ever before. Keep perpetuating it though you hack.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:35 PM
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I never flipped my lid. Just observed you as you are. Someone whining because they are having feelings about their own stupidity. If there is a joke here its on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:33 PM
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I described the ways its different dumb dumb. I said it doesn't change over time, organically, that is different than someone deliberately altering the definition with a word despite its common useage to further some ideology. You see what I ddi there? Its called juxtaposition, showing the two things in relation to each other descriptively shows how they are different you fucking dolt. Again, what was your point? You've engaged with none of my counter points. You've provided a very different exa…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:31 PM
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Lol. When did I do that? It's my perspective. You're free to have another. Your last sentences are pure word salad. It's just wrong. There is no choice between authoritarian manipulative control of language and isolationism. There are tons of societies that are open and not isolated and also don't have totalitarian control over their language. You've said nothing of any value so I'm done.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 03:19 PM
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But your example is fundamentally different. Slurs changing over time is different fundamentally than someone deliberately trying to alter the definition of a word.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 03:14 PM
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How so? Be specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 03:07 PM
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Yea I mean I get that's the way the world is what's your point in regards to the current topic? Implying I'm narcissistic or something by making a value judgement on manipulative attempts to change language deliberately in order to further goals that are not in the common good is silly. Yes, I get to make a value judgement. Saying well who are you to have an opinion on this isn't a rebuttal. It's stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 03:06 PM
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Hahahhaha. I was with you up until "we can win this election"? hahahah. oh man. whichever side you think can win an election, you're fucked, they're both the same. if you want things to get better you've got to take responsibility for your share of creating that change by creating unity with others, especially those you're being told to be divided from. Unless by win this election you mean, break the two party system. Neither biden nor trump should be anyone for anyone to cheer for.,
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:50 PM
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Yea... even outside the topic of gender dynamics... in a broader social sense, assuming most people on reddit live in USA or at least similar western countries... As citizens of a supposed democracy, or at least representative republic, we have a duty to should our share of the burden to solve the country's problems. THe government runs the country, but are hopeless to actually solve any sort of social problems, that is up to the people, to talk to each other, come up with solutions, create unit…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:48 PM
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Yea, regardless what the topic of discussion is, complacency like this almost always precipitates a fall.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:43 PM
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but smarter people have fewer friends, and people with childhood trauma can be less interested in socializing as much as other people. So, its really not a stretch to say you could have someone good looking, fit, highly motivated, with a career that makes the world a better place, and enough financial savy to be well off even if the job is more of labor of love and doesn't pay that well, many interesting hobbies goals and ambitions outside of work, and who is capable of interacting with others, …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:31 PM
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What was the part that was funny? Or not entirely serious? You're an idiot who can't read, who has nothing to share but the fact they're having feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 01:56 PM
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Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:58 AM
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Cool story bro. I get you're stupid and have a short attention span, no one's surprised. I just don't get why you want to share that with all of us?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 12:16 AM
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Not going to focus only on your example, slurs, when the example was the definition of racism. That's a perfectly acceptable example . So you don't have a point to make ? Typical. You were leaning on the direction of disagreeing with me but didn't actually articulate any points, just minor quibbles without saying anything yourself at all. Mostly you just ask leading questions cus you expect me to tease out your arguments for you by answering. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 12:12 AM
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One culture overtaking another is organic. Stalin or Mao destroying culture to erase it is not. This whole rewriting of definitions in the west is part of an attempt at manipulation not a merging of cultures. If they changed over time one culture wouldn't have to try to stamp out uses they don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 12:09 AM
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Its still used the way it always has been though. you don;t get to tell me it doesn't get ot be any more just because you and some fart sniffing acedemics say so. AS a reminder, we;re not talking about slurs, we're talking about the definition of racism. You want a knew definition, just make a new word, you want to gaslight people out of the old definition, thats its own thing, and not the organic evolution of language. If common understanding had been reached we wouldn't be having this conversa…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 09:56 PM
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cus if htey had actually come to mean that then no one would have to gaslight anyone. "I think my point was pretty obvious" no, its obvious what direction you were leaning in, but you avoided articulating your point, either because you're incapable of doing so, or because you're too intellectually cowardly and knew there would be something to critique if you did so and so avoided that, instead just asking these stupid questions as if they prove anything go ahead and actually articulate your poin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 09:54 PM
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then you had to tell me about it cus of nothing but your feelings. One of us articulated actual thoughts. it wasn't you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 08:59 PM
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Yea, but not for some people to shame people out of their usage and gaslight people that its always been this way. You dont get to just tell me they've changed now. Do you have a point to make, or just a noncontribution loaded question?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 08:58 PM
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Well that's fine. I don't give a shit if they say they just feel like racism is this new modern definition cus then id just say no that's not the definition. What they want is to change the definitions and gaslight guilt and shame us all into accepting they've always been that way. But they legitimize themselves by the overlap of radical leftist authors and academia and corporate interests and then gaslight the rest of us, which is far more dangerous than just them expressing their feelings. I t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 06:47 PM
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Saying why youre linking an article and summarizing what specifically the article says that is relevant, and perhaps providing a quote, would require less time and energy than writing a post arguing with me about why you don't want to do that. It would cost you little to just say some of the key reasons are... And then list a few. This is a reasonable request, but it's also the bare minimum to show you're a serious person who is worth interacting with, and especially on reddit, those who won't d…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 04:00 PM
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When did I say parents wouldn't even talk about it if it was their son? Doesn't mean its going to result in the son getting to feel more cared about accepted etc. He's probably going to feel less so.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:41 PM
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You haven't made a single argument. You have nothing to offer. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:39 PM
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HahaHHA. So you aren't going to actually address any of these things, but just say 'but it has to do with thelaw, I'M A LAWYER!!!!!" ​ Any non idiotic person would understand talking about why a new law SHOULD BE a law morally and logically, not just saying, well we can totally bypass due process, as the only real justification. You're horrible, worthless, and awful. I hope you neither vote nor breed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:32 PM
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When did I try to discuss legal implications of anything? Discussing any topic in terms of the law is like, the lowest consciousness lowest value discussion you can have about it, outside of being involved in a court case, or something. I asked for moral and logical justifications, and all you're capable of is procedural understanding. You can't even gain awareness of yourself enough to conceptualize the difference, which is why you're a lawyer. Tiny minds like yours can only talk about whatthe …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:18 PM
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I never mentioned the government? stop gaslighting me. I asked for a moral and logical justification. Never even mentioned the government. You're showingyourself more and more to just be a crazy person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:30 PM
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Yea this isn't saying much. Uggg this islike pulling teeth. A summary would be summarizing WHY the article says this is the case. Not just that it says that. CUs juding by past experience on reddit, not with you personally, just reddit in general, theres a chance it doens't even say what you say it does, so a summary would be great. I was quite able to read what you wrote. It just didn't have much value, no offense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:28 PM
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Wow. you don't even understand reality. I did not ever ask for proof the government cares about paternity fraud. When did i? I asked for a moral and logical justification for your ideas. Something you don't even seem to have a concept of. The fact you can't understand the difference is very telling. You're obviously not smart enough to be anything but a lawyer. bye. you're not worth pounding any tables over.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:13 PM
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What is that reason? I'm not the guy you're talking to, but I've gotten pretty unwilling to read people's links on here if they can't articulate in their post why that link is relevant, and what point they are making by posting the link. SO often on here people post lengthy articles as if they prove something, with NO explanation for what the article proves, when in reality they often prove nothing or even directly contradict the person posting them. A three or four sentence summary what point y…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:06 PM
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I knew a girl who drank a bunchof bleech. It was called a suicide attempt. She was a smart girl though, and I spoke to her about it, she said things that implied she knew full well there was no chance it would kill her. But it would get her family, who was all caught uyp in their divorce, her brothers behavioral problems etc, to take notice of her struggles. For a man, such a thing would never result in more care and support in life. It would result in shame being ostracized etc, and also, there…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:04 PM
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and this is why men are in more need of support.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:00 PM
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Hhahhahahah. I have conversations with people far smarter than you all the time. You haven't made a point. you haven't responded to any of mine. THis repsonse is about on par for what you have to offer. Typical lawyer, no imagination, no ability to base any justification on a moral or logical framework, and a hardon for more governmental control. ​ I'm not storming anywhere, you just have nothing to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:53 PM
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Hahahahahhahaha. Tons of oppression has been done in the name of equality. Don't you read history? Thats basically all communism is. Way to jusy invalidate the right for anyone outside of the chosen 'victim groups' to have feelings or thoughts on the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:50 PM
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Your last sentence is a strawman. Many people voted for brexit because they saw it as the lesser of two evils, Voting for brexit does not mean you thought being part of the EU had no advantages, just that the negative consequences were something they no longer wanted to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:47 PM
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Its not as prevalent offline as online, but I have for sure encountered a lot more angry young women in the past few years than i ever have before.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:45 PM
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Why? Personally I feel like I hate when people refer to things that are just their perspective, the way they feel things are, as if its some sort of objective reality. Those people SUUUUCK to talk to, andyou can't actually discuss anything with them. The kind of people, who if you disagree with their idea politely and respectfully, are unable to form a rebuttal of their own, but either tell you thatyou need to go read some book written by their favorite woke mentally masturbating fart sniffing a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:45 PM
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God you really suck to interact with, and I'm done, but first I'm going to point it out. First, a joke? Huh? Jokes are humorous. There was nothing humorous about your statement. Second, why are you joking about this? Are you making a point by doing so? No, you just seem to have a boner for big government having more control over men, and thats your whole deal. Second, you've posted no sources, no data, and now just provide three links, to lengthy articles with zero indication of what part is sup…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:31 PM
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You talk about data we have but provide NONE. Your talk about helping the government doesn't appeal to me. You talk about paternity tests being the only cost of paternity fraud. Maybe youre intellectually dishonest, maybe you just have the minimal imagination of a lawyer, but anyone can see there are plenty of other costs than just that. Divorce could likely be far lower if women knew they couldn't get away with paternity fraud, for starters. Your idea "we make it a constitutional amendment' wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 03:39 AM
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You still fail to articulate how it would be easier or better. So, I'm not sure what else there is to talk about. Why do you state it would be to collect child support and not for paternity fraud? Why? Why would and why should that be the case? you just state it like its self evident. Its not. Again, you saying there are ways around due process grounds without articulating any justification or defense of why they should be used is creepy as fuck. Again you say child support claims costs more soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:33 AM
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No there are tons of legal and moral issues with having national DNA databases. Also, there is a cost to the taxpayer. Why should it be my responsibility to help some strange woman who can't keep track of who she has had sex with? I have little sympathy for that, and don't see the reason I should pay for it. Like, preventing paternity fraud seems like a reasonable, much lower less problematic less expensive branch to reach for than the state assuming the responsibility that no child anywhere nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 02:02 AM
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If they're confident because they're extremely rich, perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 01:54 AM
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lol no, why would we need a database? You can literally just compare the childs DNA to that of theman being said to be the father.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 12:15 AM
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When do men push for birth control but don't want to pay for it while in an exclusive relationship? How is the sharing of expenses related to sex in an exclusive relationship at all relevant to the sharing of expenses on a first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:54 PM
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You don't. You think you've exposed some sort of fallacy in this posters thinking, or the thinking of all men, when in fact, all you have really done is uncover the fallacious nature of foundation of the entire makeup industry. THey sell you that anxiety that its what you need to compete. Of course, a few men do like the whole fake mask of chemicals look, but far less than you'd think.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:52 PM
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So much of this is a crazy assumption. Very first, you talk about women having to pay to compete for MY attention. Buying makeup and all the rest of that crap isn't competing for my attention, its trying to increase your appeal to all men, and increase competition for YOU. Furthermore, A date is about sharing an experience, getting to know each other etc. Both people should pay for half this experience. Third, no, not all guys like makeup. Its not what you actually look like, the entire thing se…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:50 PM
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Perhaps cite yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:39 PM
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but not provide any data?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:38 PM
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I mean, its not like you showed any evidence or sources either, so if anyone should be willing to lead by example on that its the person who made the original point. Asking for sources for someone who rebuts your sourceless claims is a bit odd, no? Not to mention the fact no scientist or statistician would EVER speak in such objectively factual ways. "This is reality, incontrovertible, single women are happiest." One study hardly ever PROVES anything. An actual scientist would look at a study, d…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:35 PM
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Maybe at specific age ranges, but not in the last decade of life or so. Single people are not happy when in their 80s.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:30 PM
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Not with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:27 PM
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I'm sorry you have so little sense of self that gaslighting is literally all there is to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:51 PM
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Bwahahhhaa. You are so out of touch with reality. I wasn't even sharing a strictly male perspective. How was my point sharing any male perspective? It wasn't even talking about me specifically. I haven't met someone so incredibly obviously out of touch with reality in a long time. I'm fascinated.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:28 PM
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hahahahahaha how is it not a point about those things? Its far more of a point than anything you've said. Whats one single point you've made again? I talk about all sorts of things. I'm not the one who only posts in this sub and does nothing but gaslight and invalidate people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 04:05 PM
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ok gaslighting crazy person. Its literally a direct quote from an earlier reply of mine, and something I have restated multiple times. God you're weird. Far more of a point than you ever made. Literally all you have said is to invalidate my right to talk about things from my perspective, and even now, you have no interest in having any sort of discussion, instead choosing just to gaslight me with this low level bullshit instead of either saying anything resembling your own point or addressing mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:37 PM
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Regardless, asking me what I think isn't articulating what you think. ​ You don't seem to understand the basic concept of just saying something clearly. I have no idea what your point is other than to just make low effort low consciousness non rebuttal arguments to what I say. I still do not get what your basic point is. I never said its just men. My entire point was literally that there are ways things are unfair to both genders. Are you refuting that, agreeing with it, or just arguing absolute…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:52 AM
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of course not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 02:07 AM
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THis is not a clearly articulated point. ​ "dO YOU THINK"... followed by hyperbole isn't a clearly articulated point. ​ Here, try saying that "my point is that' and then making an actual point. ​ ​ Ias your point that both genders have wayts in which things are unfair for them anfd the world is too complex a place ot ever calculate anything like ok yea we're equal now? ​ Cus that seems like an implication but again its not clearly stated. What do they teach you kids in school these days? Its lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:56 AM
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Nope, I replied to spirit dancer who said men risk nothing in relationships. Sp you have no point then?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 12:21 AM
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so you won't articulate your point? I've articulated mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 11:22 PM
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What was your argument? When people don't just clearly state and argument, and instead talk in these leading questions they think are gotchas but are closer to strawmen its hard to know what their point is sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 10:17 PM
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The topic was asking when women achieved equality. my whole point was to answer that that is reductionist and most like in bad faith, because obviously, there are ways things are unfair for women, and ways things are unfair for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 10:07 PM
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I literally did just a point on that and literally did not say but men, you gaslighting crazy person. Seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 08:36 PM
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The topic was asking when women achieved equality. my whole point was to answer that that is reductionist and most like in bad faith, because obviously, there are ways things are unfair for women, and ways things are unfair for men. And then you had a meltdown because the world didn't revolve entirely around you and you have so little sense of self theres literally nothing to you besides invalidation. Then you did a bunch of gaslighting bullshit like asserting this sub expressing designed to dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:48 PM
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So thanks for admitting they then have less autonomy over the outcome than women do and therfore should have less responsibility. ​ Again you have no real rebuttal, but the invalidation. ​ I see this is literally the only sub you post on, this is all you do, and all you are.I'm sorry you struggle so much with lack of a sense of self that the totality of who you are is just invalidation towards others.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:17 PM
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Articulate a single point you've been trying to make other than just invalidating my right to be part of the conversation or men's perspectives in general. You haven't had a single point. You think you'd winning just by continuing to elicit a response from me but you're just clearly showing yourself as broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:16 PM
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Lol this isn't the sub for that. This is literally a space for discussing both together. I'm totally capable of letting women have their own spaces, or engaging in coversationb about womens issues, but really, as a man, I'm going to engage in those conversation with my own perspective as well. ​ This isn't problematic for me because I do not invalidate women's right to their perspective or feelings. You seem to have BPD or NPD and are mad you don't get to control the conversation completely, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:06 PM
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Oh I'm super capable. I was willing to discuss BOTH at the same time. The fact you can't even conceive of this as a concept, and think it HAS to be an either or, really is just textbook BPD. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:53 PM
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Mens responsibility should be in accordance with their autonomy regarding the situation. ​ Thanks for puitting words in my mouth and being incapable of discussing in good faith. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:52 PM
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THis is so insane of you. You know men's dating struggles can'tbe eliminated, you won't even talk abotu them without feeling like it means your rights are being violated somehow. Would you do me a favor? If you have a point, just actually articulate your point and stop with these super low effort leading questions that don't actually say anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:51 PM
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I hate this way of discussing something. You want to make a point do so, and articulate that point. Just asking this leading question is worthless. In your mind it might be great because you think it's a gotcha cus you already agree with yourself and think your outlook is great but for me it's just a low effort low value response that I'm not longer motivated to interact with. Like you're expecting me only to do the effort of fleshing out and articulating my own points, but have to tease yours o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:29 PM
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Yes. Dating and reproduction are related. Duuuurrr. I get you're incapable of thinking of anyone other than yourself. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:26 PM
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Hmm so how many men are creating pregnancies without women? You're not worth interacting with because you have nothing to say. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:25 PM
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Lol. Ok I get you're absolutely incapable of anything other than this. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 03:24 PM
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If you want a space to discuss women's issues without talking about men at all, I suggest twox chromosomes or something. . This is literally a space to talk about issues for both genders. You don't even have any points or issues to talk about. I'm not even preventing you from anything if you had something to say you'd say it. The truth is THIS IS all you have to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 02:33 PM
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Lol why is this relevant? Are women?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 02:25 PM
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Men cause pregnancy? Like, women don't cause pregnancy at all? .so like, men are just going around creating pregnancies without women being involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 02:24 PM
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Lol because it's relevant and related. But ok yes we can only talk about the things that support what you're trying to to say. We can talk about women too. Lol. You're nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 02:23 PM
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Lol I never said anything remotely like that. I fact I said literally the opposite. You're really showing yourself as having some cluster b.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:32 AM
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So do you just invalidate men? You know you don't have to in order for women's struggles to be viewed as valid. It's not an either or.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:31 AM
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Maybe some guys. I have little to no interest in that. Gimmie some hot monogomy pussy. Some built up trust communication and knowledge of each others boundaries kinks etc type sex. Yea. Quite possibly this happens when guys get sick of the GIRL not her pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 01:52 AM
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Thats not deflection or invalidation. I merely mentioned women aren't the only ones who face risks. There are risks men face that women do not. There are risks women face that men do not. Saying the latter isn't some kind of game winning gotcha. Also, i've never invalidated women. I've never invalidated their right to their feelings or perspectives, the way you have. I've never dismissed their concerns, just pointed out, they are not the only ones who face risks, and men face different risks. So…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 10:18 PM
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Treat them like human beings. I don't think women need any other support from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 08:53 PM
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That's not invalidating on my part. I did nothing to invalidate women's experience perspectives or feelings based on their risks. I just pointed out that risk is inherent for all and pointing out one way it's weighted more heavily towards women doesn't really prove anything. There was no invalidation on my part, again,just a reminder that the cherry picking hyper focus on one thing women experience while willfully ignoring mens experiences is disingenuous invalidating and not productive. Then yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 08:39 PM
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In the USA, child support payments are tied to fathers income, and often the fact that the mother has 'become accustomed to a high quality of life" while with this man, is used as legal justification for her deserving more of his money when she decides to leave him. There is no cap for alimony or child support payments, they aren't tied to actual need at all. Recently there was a law passed in florida capping alimony payments to something like $400k a year, a ridiculous figure, and many women th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:28 PM
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No, it is relevant, dating and the reproductive process are pretty closely related not sure why you're pretending they arne't. And they're both related to abortion. Child support is also relevant and related. Can you explain how they aren't related or aren't relevant? Basically you've just stomped your foot saying that they aren't, but not demonstrated that at all. ​ Also, no I havent. What I accused you of is just doing nothing more than invalidating. Where have I invalidated anyone? And this l…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:17 PM
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I haven't deflected anything. Literally the only thing you've said is to invalidate men. Whats your actual point? That men do not face any risks in dating? Why don't you actually articulate a point? All you've done is show you're an invalidating person. Again, thats not really a point I can interact with so much as its a symptom of a cluster b personality disorder. Its funny, I feel no need to invalidate women in order to have my perspective be viewed as valid. It should be a HUGE cause for conc…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:10 PM
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Ok I get thatinstead of actually discussing anything, you're just going to be dismissive and invalidating. You're right, just because men don't have the EXACT SAME risk profile for certain actions, women must have it sooooo much worse in every way. ​ I can play that game too, when has a women EVER had thier whole life ruined by false rape accusations while their accuser faced zero consequences even after the falseness of the accusation has been proven. ​ See, I can do it to, but the thing is, ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:02 PM
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OK. well how would you feel about a law requiring the mother to work in order to collect child support? Cus currently child support isn't calculated by what the child needs, its calculated by the income of the man, which clearly shows its not really about the child, its about the women getting to take from the man. Many women get knocked up by a wealth guy then justdon't have to work. If you're looking for things to be fair, that surely isn't it. The child might deserve a good life, but theres n…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:58 PM
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Lol. Great. I get you just kind of reversed what I said and said the same thing but the thing is men don't get to have itboth ways. How do they? They don't like, claim to not want to take responsibility for the child but then also get to tell the woman how to raise the child. If men don't get a say regarding abortions, they should not be culpable for child support. Other than just repeating what i said in a different way, can you tell me how men actually have it both ways? Cus from what I see th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:53 PM
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And really, how often do you need an abortion? Inconvenience for most rights is akin to denial of that right but abortion really isn't something you're going to be doing regularily.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:55 AM
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Sounds.great. But then expecting child support sounds like a double standard. Women should have to accept.the responsibility for the consequences of their actions and not get to play this game of having it both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:53 AM
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Men risk nothing? How is that remotely true? Just by dating men risk all sorts of things. Some that women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 07:51 AM
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Uh ya. I feel like you didn't even read what I wrote? Like when did I say living in squalor isn't a problem? I said a slight difference in standards can still make for nonstop tension and resentment, and also, that resentment over slight differences is a more common problem than wildly different standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 03:14 PM
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I'm not really sure it matters. A huge difference in standards will be obvious, but even small differences can seem like something that is always there causing tension.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 07:00 AM
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You say it's good to build your friends up and it can be, but it also can be super narcissistic. People use that word to mean vain or full or yourself but the clinical term more means like engages in behaviors like complimenting others, not because they like doing it or it make someone else feel good, but because they do it in a way they they get positive attention in return, especially if it involves mutually assisting each other in avoiding reality somehow and emabling continued toxic behavior…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 01:23 AM
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So you're not going to reply to my point about women's not going to war not being an example of oppression, despite that women are still negatively impacted by other aspects of war, the lack of opportunity to die in combat isnt oppression. You're not smart enough to see the distinction are you? Its not tough to see, you're just not bright.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 05:39 PM
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How high are you right now dickbreath? You're still replying to shit I never said and not even making sense. Can you point out where I generalized all men as veterans? or where i've boiled down anyones entire life history to a single moment? Can you make this make sense? I criticized OP for invalidating mens right to have emotions because she was unaware what they were really having emotions about.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 05:29 PM
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Dur genious, the topic was whether or not not allowing women to go to war was an example of oppression. Way to argue some shit I never said dumbass.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 03:48 AM
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I mean by this definition I think most people don't respect most people. I know I don't. Half of all people are peas intelligent than average. While they have a right to their preferences, I don't see much reason to value their opinions a lot of the time, nor flatter them regarding their contributions, and I think this is basically the norm for most people. Separating it into how men view women is just viewing a universal human thing into some sort of misogyny I can say that people who seem to n…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 02:14 AM
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lol hahahaha Evolve. Why;d you mention it then? It was relevant before someone had a rebuttal you found inconvenient. You could just grow up, and say hmm, maybe I was sorta wrong about that, and the attitude I have that led me to saying it is something I should reflect on....
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:56 PM
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You're literally the one who first used the word prehistory, to which I responded to. You were pontificating about how you IMAGINE prehistory to be based on assuming pre historical women have a similar post modern feminist attitude as you do. I literally just noticed this and responded to it. This isn't an error of word choice on your part, its literally what you were saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:48 PM
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We have countless first person testimonies from prehistory? No, we do not, thats what makes it PRE HiSTORY. Jesus the kind of basic shit I gotta teach people on here... You have no evdience to say it happened often at all. You're just making things up, and doing so from a perspective of assuming women who came before will have your ultra post modern feminist perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:42 PM
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I think you're retconning some sort of very modern attitude onto women that would not have had it, then just saying that anything anyone says that doesn't support what you're saying isn't relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:38 PM
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What an odd lens you view the world through. Do you really think in prehistorical hunter gatherer bands, that there were lots of women who didn't want to have anything to do with men, and had to be forced to? You don't think, like, men and women, just kinda, are drawn to each other, naturally? Buncha 10kBC woke feminists saying how their identity isn't tied to their uterus and they're going to refuse to breed as some sort of social rebellion? That seems like a stretch.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:26 PM
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It didn't even get called cold approaching back then. it just got called talking to people. Crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 06:26 PM
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If they said they had bad feelings associated with something totally understand. If they were literally just saying they don't want to do them WITH ME, then jesus what am I doing there?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 06:17 PM
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Your data also doesn't really match your conclusions. It shows a HUGE change in these 20 years. Has the trend of having kids older really skyrocketed in those years that much, and was that rare before hand? My parents were both over 35 when they had me and i'm basically old now. It seems there are other variables taking effect in those years.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 06:13 PM
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So you've got info showing that having a kid when you're older increases chances of autism, but you haven't shown that that is what is responsible for the entire rise in autism. There very likely could be other factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 06:01 PM
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Huh? So theres no double standard then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 11:54 AM
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I think people give this advice to women about unrealistic standards like, expecting to find a man whos like top half a percent of looks, and finances, as if that is remotely realistic. I don't think anyones telling women they should just accept disrespect and cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 11:24 AM
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But also, doing this, will make women know they can walk all over you, and you will attract the women who will do so. Have standards and boundaries, makes people realize they have to respect them in order to have you around, and you'll attract people who will do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 11:22 AM
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Yea totally you got me, all my past romantic partners left when they found out I didn't bother clicking on links provided with no explanation by bad faith arguers on reddit that almost surely did not actually contradict me in any way. Most likely youve got a clip showing she said something difference, but that proves nothing, she could still have said what I said somewhere else. She has spoken more than one time. This really cut me deeply and it's going to take me a long time to recover emotiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 01:15 PM
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Not even bothering with your link. She said ugly men deserve nothing. That's a direct quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 12:20 PM
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I think everyone knows it's childhood trauma and an unhealthy or non existent relationship with their father that does this to women. No one develops this kind of animosity by getting pumped and dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 12:05 PM
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Lol she said something like ugly men have no right to be in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 12:03 PM
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Not where Billie eilish comes from either. She's the woman who said ugly men have no right to be alive or in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 12:01 PM
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Most people have a hard time having empathy for any experience they themselves havent directly lived through.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/23 02:21 PM
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Do you ever get so tired you get angry? It's a curse. Every night when I'm falling asleep I yell a lot and wake myself up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/23 02:58 AM
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Two things. For my ex, we hiked up a ski area at night under a full moon, and I skied down with her in my arms in the moonlight. I wanted to show her how fun skiing could be and she didn't yet know how. With some girl later, I ask her name, she retorts back and asks me what I think her name is? I correctly guess Angelica exactly. Hahah.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 08:05 PM
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Lol. The distinction of women who haven't cheated lying about paternity is absurd and irrelevant. Obviously men are concerned about women who cheat and lie not immaculate conception . Sure, yea, get multiple paternity tests. That's fine. All your points are really weird. Like telling men to adopt so they can be certain their kid isn't their own when they want to raise their own child, talking about absolutely irrelevant immaculate conception,inflating this fear of falsified results while ignorin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:22 PM
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How is adopt at all a good faith suggestion? Men don't want certainty. They want to raise their own kids. How exactly is a man going to falsify paternity tests? Do you actually think this is anywhere near as common as.women lying about paternity?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 04:15 AM
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This is a huge false equivalency.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 03:36 AM
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A bunch of men went and saved the world from this real bad guy named hitler who was ethnically cleansing Jews roma and a bunch of other people including women and children Of course you've heard of it you're just being obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 12:52 AM
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Not really. Just the vibe I get. I mean I looked her up. The name you listed at least is that of an actress. I actually don't think the name goes with the picture, but yea saying some Hollywood type gives off a materialistic and not down to earth vibe is hardly shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 12:49 AM
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Seriously? Never heard of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:50 PM
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I'm.sure some gay guys don't like women. Just like some lesbians don't like men. Honestly I find the woman you posted kind of gross and I'm not misogynist. She just gives off a very materialistic kind of trashy vibe.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 11:13 PM
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Do you not know what world war two was?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 10:21 PM
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Who said it's any kind of a threat? It's a just a statement you're not going to interact with them any more.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 04:06 PM
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What on earth makes you think I tried to say the worst thing I possibly could to this person? This is a bizarre response. Seems like I struck a nerve tho huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:43 PM
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Why bother replying if you aren't going to actually address my points? Just seems like you mostly just like saying men bad. If so you can do it without me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 04:00 AM
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You just seem not worth interacting with and disappointing as a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:57 AM
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This is actually not really toxic femininity. Toxic femininity is more like women shaming using guilt manipulation etc in each other and men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:55 AM
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Lol. Yea that's it hahah. You were opress cus you weren't allowed to go to war. There were societies that didn't restrict women from fighting. And women still didn't. And you're going to continue to ignore everything else I said. I think I've seen just about enough of you. You right women are just better than men /s. Youre proving that with your wonderful example.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 03:46 AM
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Women get so much attention that's not even related to sex or romance. Like woman seems sad and emotional at work and people of both genders are likely to offer support. With a man it's so much less likely.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 02:53 AM
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So you're just going to ignore everything else I said complety, and ignore this point as well just to ask some weird misdirecting questions? You don't think men going to war would have wanted some extra backup? Maybe articulate your rebuttal instead of asking this seemingly rhetorical question. It's not self evident like you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 01:45 AM
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Kinda ironic when your whole post is basically you generalizing men as some sort of monolith. If anything his statement seems far less based on generalizations that yours do. He's making a general observation about social norms related to make interaction, youre making generalizations about all men based on your limited and ignorant observations of a very small handful of men who you seem to know nothing about their histories.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 01:23 AM
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This just seems like you've made generalizations based off specific examples. Even your examples seem like gross oversimplifications. Boiling down someone's entire life history to a single causal event you view as not significant. You probably just don't know their whole history enough. You're just assuming because you don't know more that the more trivial even must be the single causal event. Not too many women going to war throughout history tho huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 01:20 AM
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This just seems like you've made generalizations based off specific examples. Even your examples seem like gross oversimplifications. Boiling down someone's entire life history to a single causal event you view as not significant. You probably just don't know their whole history enough. Not too many women going to war throughout history.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 01:17 AM
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Yea id rather just love my life than view everything through the lens of competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:14 AM
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Intellectual curiosity is so fucking hot in a woman. It's rare tho, I mean it's rare in anyone I don't think it's a gender thing. Everyone just wants entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:21 AM
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Why don't women carry guns and tasers? Kind of off topic, but just like socially awkward men can improve themselves, women can do things to protect themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:34 PM
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Shy is different than introverted. You can be introverted and confident. You're still less likely to be noticed, but it's not a turn off to many women. You'll have to actually engage in conversation and connect in order to be noticed but it's possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 02:33 PM
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I think not having a strong social circle is a symptom of the same kind of problem that makes dating harder too. Life is more alienating and isolated these days. Work from home COVID etc etc etc. On a meta scale these problems are increasing. Individuals may have some responsibility for their own lives but are not wholey at fault. It's also been proven in studies that higher intelligence people tend to have fewer friends, and spend more time alone pursuing hobbies and intellectual pursuits, alth…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:44 PM
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I know it's a stereotype but it's also just a societal norm that women are constantly buying new clothes and useless crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 06:13 AM
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A man should skip step 3. Bystander effect.combined with gender norms means no one's going to help a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 03:04 PM
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Yea I don't think men are shamed for not dating fat chicks, but for bluntly telling fat chicks they won't date them cus they're fat. Women are shamed for similar things. Have some class people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 01:15 PM
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Men have a paternal instinct. They feel it for THEIR children more though. They talk about how much their entire psycholgy changed the moment their first hold THIER child. I've never encountered men talking about using artificial wombs. I have encountered women talking about women should stop dating and having sex and breeding with guys and should just use sperm donors or even that, men should just go extinct and female scientist should just create artificial sperm somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 08:13 PM
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I wasn't saying Dems vs reps. ? I was saying the act of covering up sexual abuse is one problem, and the witch hunts for those not in the approved group is another problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:14 PM
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If a crime is not provable, does that make it an unfortunately complicated situation, or does it remove the need for proof and due process? What are the implications for this in our legal system as a whole and the precedence it would set for other kinds of crimes?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:49 AM
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Correction, those are two separate very real problems!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:47 AM
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WTF? Where am I blaming women in particular? What are you even talking about? I didn't even say anything about WOMEN. I observed one single woman is a misandrist. Seriously, what are you even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 07:56 PM
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I'm not sure what you hearing misogynist comments is supposed to prove exactly. Are you viewing all men as some sort of monolith or something? Implying the behavior of one cannot contradict the behavior of another? Or that the behavior of any woman is justified because of the behavior of some men? I hate it when people just ask a question like this like they think its so self evidently some kind of gotcha that they don't even need to articulate an actual point argument or rebuttal. Make your poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 06:26 PM
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again, if a man said most women suck everyone would consider them a misogynist. You're a misandrist. Have a great day.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:04 PM
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Nah. If a man thinks women's only value is their holes they are a misogynist. As is common knowledge. You're a misandrist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:48 PM
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Bwhahaha. You just said most men suck. Cognitive dissonance is strong with this troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:39 PM
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You obviously don't put effort into being smart. Children. That is the answer to the question you asked if why don't men just be happy being alone forever. Same as you. They want to be parents. Duuur.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:38 PM
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Well, you just answered your own question didn't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:28 PM
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Make misandrist obviously trolling comments on reddit ? Seems like a life well lived /s
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:27 PM
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Being able to express emotions is different from having them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 11:10 PM
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So you can't articulate an actual argument and are now upset. How novel. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 08:20 PM
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Now you're just insulting me. Ok bye then irrational angry preachy smug person who can't articulate an actual argument for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 08:06 PM
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I lack the patience to explain life to you. You haven't articulated anything worth replying to really. Feel free to actually articulate an argument and I'll see about replying to it. This is just getting dumber and dumber and it's not beneficial to me in any way to continue it unless you say something actually worth arguing against. So far it's basically.been nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 05:57 PM
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No. To avoid choosing things that hurt you? I will not regret the heroin addiction I didn't have. You're not making any sense. I suppose that's to be expected given the point you're trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:59 PM
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Is of benefit to you and others both in the long and short term. Not that complicated. Irrational doesn't just mean not obsessed with rationality. It means contradictory and of negative benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:41 PM
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Nah you can make rational choices and still experience joy. Just because you choose things that make sense and behave in a way that makes sense doesn't mean you overanalyze and suck the fun out of everything and can't live in the moment or experience emotions. They're entirely separate things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:34 PM
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Lol. No one's perfect but people's irrational behavior often is the thing that leads to misery and regret
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:21 PM
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Yea I like being friends with men. I'm also mentally attracted to women. I just prefer smart women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 04:19 PM
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Who said anything about rationalizing your way through life? That's an irrational behavior actually. All I'm talking about is make rational choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 03:46 PM
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I don't like dicks. I also don't like irrationality. I see no contradiction here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 03:40 PM
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There's some strange connections drawn here. You use the word nerd a few times. That's defined as much but what it isn't as by what it is. I'm smart, but no one would ever call me a nerd. I ski at ,80mph, mnt bike, rock climb, work out daily, play guitar, write songs, fly planes etc etc. Is it the intelligence itself a turn off? Or intimidating? Or is it the nerdiness? Not all nerds are even smart really .
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 03:39 PM
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Sure, it doesn't completely solve the problem, but I think it would vastly improve it no? Besides, aren't some of those guys probably guys who were willing to commit and decided it just wasn't working out?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 02:57 PM
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Actually, not really. These things work even on individual basis. If you're a woman who feels used by guys saying they're interested in commitment than changing their minds once they have sex, that issue is solved by not having sex outside of commited relationships. if you're a guy who feels used by women feeling entiteled to male attention, money, gifts, etc, without sex or commitment, and you stop giving those things, except to a girl who makes it clear you're a priority, you may get laid a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 03:46 AM
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It seems pretty weird to me, but its somewhat analogous, if not completly, to women going on those sites where women give guys they've dated reviews. Its different because in this case its nudes, which are deeply personal, and might be shared without consent, but also, on those review a guy websites, theres no one vetting the information to be true, and that information is deeply personal as well, if true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 02:22 AM
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Nah it was like a switch flipped and it was pretty obvious but thanks dick. I find you unpleasant. You didn't have to say she found me unpleasant. You could have just left it at she didn't feel a connection or attraction, but you chose to take it to that personal place. Fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 04:12 PM
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I've met one for sure. Maybe she wasn't doing it all the time but she def seemed a lot more excited to go to dinner with me when we set the date up, and very cold and only interested in the food and ordered the most expensive of everything, once we got there. I could explain more but I'm pretty sure of the vibe I got.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 04:06 AM
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Cus they just like doing this to guys. A sugar daddy gives him power, while doing this makes the girl feel powerful.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 03:02 AM
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Its more like scamming people in some way. its a hell of a hard way to get money, but putting one over on someone else and the feeling of superiority is half the benefit to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 03:00 AM
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I think most guys don't really want virgins, they just don't want sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 09:43 PM
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I've already said your perspective is valid. I haven't invalidated it or indicated a lack of empathy for it at all. Your reasons for not wanting to have make friends are fine, but the perspective of oh men just need to form better support networks is dismissive. It doesn't have to be women's fault but the fact that women are often like you and are unwilling to be friends with men is part of the problem. Accepting that's the case doesn't mean being blamed for it, if your reasons are valid then yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 02:19 AM
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male influencers don't represent most men. Ok, you're only friends with gay men, got it. And you're saying just because I'm not a woman I wouldn't know anything about how men interact with women? You think I don't have male friends, haven't witnessed interactions, haven't talked to women I've dated or had flings with about how men interact with them? You're basically just dismissive. Everything you say basically amounts to nuh uh, and the crazy things is, I'm not invalidating your perspective or…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/23 12:21 AM
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I don't think I am that much of a minority. Id more say red pill guys at the minority offline, which should be obvious to anyone. But I get whatever I say you're basically going to just say some version of nuh uh.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 08:38 PM
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Ok Yea I'm not saying all womens reason are Invalid, it's more just the then blaming male loneliness entirely on men and saying it's just their problem instead of having the empathy to just say hmm yea maybe it's cus women largely refuse to be friends with men? I get you're not saying that, but it is the topic of this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 08:23 PM
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No point isn't entirely based on that. Its also general observations that women don't want men as friends, then say male loneliness is mens problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 07:46 PM
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This does not disprove my point at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 07:35 PM
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Ok. Well I still think my perspective has validity but you can choose to ignore it. Personally I've never said or felt any friendship I had was exploitative it's easy for me to avoid that. But still women are willing to have hookups with me but not be friends unless they're over 50.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 06:32 PM
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Lol. No offense but ppd is not a normal representation of any group. Plenty of guys want female friends. Many guys just have given up on it because they see women as only valuing men for sex or as providers so in turn choose to only value women for sex. I'm telling you tho it's easier for a decently attractive guy to get hookups than female friends. At least it has been for me for years. Women are willing to value me for sex but not as a human, unless they're over 50. And we've got a lot of wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 06:14 PM
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Well if the friendship itself is exploitative then yes. Some women use male friends who they know are simps and some guys are simps who do this trhen resent it . But plenty of guys are stoked to just have female friends, I mean if nothing else then you'll make friends with her friends and one of them could be a potential partner, but plenty of guys are just stoked to have female friends I'm one of them, but I've found it's easier for me to get hookups than get female friends mostly. Women my mom…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 05:50 PM
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Men don't just want male friends. They would like female friends. Shocking, I know. Its not mens fault if women these days commonly have the attitude that male loneliness is a male problem, and not their concern, and that they don't want to be friends with men because men are problematic etc etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 04:59 PM
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Penultimate means second to last FYI.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 03:56 PM
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Well at a certain age, isn't dead bedroom not really a problem? Like sweet old couples celebrating their 50th wedding anniversary that love each other, do you think they're unhappy if they're not boning? Libido decreases with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 12:28 AM
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Nah. Your weird dismissive circular logic isn't an argument..
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 10:32 PM
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Uh it is tho? Or else we wouldn't be talking about it? Are you seriously this dense?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 10:10 PM
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No your example is something that's weird to ask cus it's never a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 09:26 PM
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Why would you even ask that tho? That's weird cus that's just not a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 09:15 PM
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Huh? I don't follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 09:13 PM
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I'm not talking about a grown man that just breaks down and cries over minor trivial things. thats pretty silly. I'm just talking about a man who wants to be able to be open with his woman about his emotions and have her provide some more support than just existing while he talks about them. I'm just talking about lack of double standards. Most women don't just break down and cry over trivial things either, but they do like to be able to talk to men about their feelings and get some validation, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 04:34 PM
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I'm not weak or selfish but I'm absolutely unmotivated to be with a woman who cannot reciprocate emotional support.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 04:18 PM
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So like, only have emotions if like someone dies or something. But women can be emotional on a regular basis? Men do have emotions. Women being supportive would strengthen relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 04:15 PM
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Yea exactly. Formative emotional expression to woo and chase and pursue. Not like, someone who needs emotional support. Or they think they do, they'd like to offer emotional support, but when it comes time to do it something primal.osmtroggered to feel revulsion and they have a hard time admitting that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 02:32 PM
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Lol. Seriously? Yea I just came up with that in a vacuum not through experience hahaha. Sure. What a strange response.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 01:33 PM
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Thanks for proving my point. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 01:31 PM
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How very low consciousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 03:29 AM
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This so true. But it's not to say the conservatives of today are still having more kids than the liberals and progressives.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 10:58 PM
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Also overlaid by the cycle that the strong create safe prosperous societies which create the weak and lazy who create the fall of those societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 10:56 PM
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I think a lot of women feel like they want a man who can be vulnerable but then also feel a primal revulsion at witnessing actual vulnerability, perceiving it either as weak, or as too selfish when he should be stronger and providing for and protecting them. Not trying to shit on women, all humans have irrationality and contradictory nature's, but I do see this contradictory tendency in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 08:13 PM
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I think it depends how you do it? Bust out a form for her to sign, or just ask, are you ok, do you want me inside you? Etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 01:18 PM
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For some reason this sub is like, mostly men, and then a decent number of women in relationships, mostly married, and some younger ones that seem to not want to date. Women have been complaining about not being able to get committed relationships for a long time. More so now. Just not here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:39 PM
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But I'm the one you're talking to. Ok, deal only in generalizations if you want, and use those generalizations as a justification for how to interact with individuals. I don't think I'm misunderstanding you at all. Everything you've said seems pretty straightforward. All I've been advocating for is people and women try to have more empathy for others. It's a strange thing to receive such push back on and I think people who feel the need to do so should really question why.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 12:15 AM
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Just look at my comments vs yours and see which one of us is being more dismissive and invalidating. You're proving my point for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 10:08 PM
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I'm not doing that. If all men are some kind of monolith then sure. I'm not doing that tho. Not all women are heartless, but holy shit it's crazy the pushback from many women on a concept so basic and uncontroversial as just 'people should have more empathy'
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 08:48 PM
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Ya know, my previous reply to this comment might have been a bit personal, like the 'kind of telling that you have to be told that' comment was a little condescending, I'm sorry. You're right that in relationships, it is hard for people to see each others perspectives, but, in large, in society in general, I feel like women's perspectives get treated with validation while women treat mens experience with indifference and invalidation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:33 PM
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Empathy doesn't mean having to agree about everything. Just seeing that for the other person there is validity in their perspective. Kind of telling that you have to be told that, no? Not trying to be a dick, but like, why is there such a resentful unwillingness to even view mens perspective as having any validity at all? Do you feel like many women feel like they'd be 'losing' some sort of power struggle if they did that? I also think most dead bedrooms are far more complicated than that. Even …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:06 PM
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I don't agree that's the only solution and I don't agree having empathy for men caused those scenarios. I too have been treated poorly by women, and men, and I don't think either was caused by me having empathy for people. Regardless, women treating men with scorn resentment and lack of empathy just perpetuates men being resentful towards women, and treating them poorly as well. Some people are just psychopaths, but for most people, both men and women, they use previous poor treatment to justify…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 05:55 PM
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True. Empathy in general is in short supply. But I don't quite understand the pushback from women when I argue women should have more empathy for men. It's not like I don't also say men should have more empathy for women. Empathy doesn't real cost anyone anything either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 04:46 PM
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Well that's the thing a very small percentage say they are misandrist but many more just say they're generally invalidating dismissive and unempathetic to men's experience and scornful ans resentful to them.because of the patriarchy, or fear of men etc etc. It's largely just normalized. But I can tell the difference between a woman with some trauma and fear vs one who justifies resentment towards virtually all men. And simping for one guy doesn't really contradict this. I've had women simp for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 04:39 PM
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Ahhh. Unfortunately as a man I can't help but encounter these things in my interactions. I don't have Twitter. This kind of rhetoric is common, I encounter it regularly offline. A key variable is that while misogyny is largely condemned, misandry is justified normalized and cheerleaded as brave and empowered.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 04:17 PM
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I didn't say it would make me feel more wanted. I said it would make people feel more connected which would make them less likely to chase sex to feel wanted. I'm quite aware of your justifications. They are not new to me. This scorn and coldness isn't just for men seeking sex or relationships it's towards men just for existing and for every man treated in this way their attitude is pushed more towards lack of empathy for women, red pill ideology, and the belief that the only thing women have to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 04:15 PM
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Do you think the only negative feelings men have is simply by being turned down? not be the pervasive experience of scorn, invalidation, coldness, etc? If more people were empathetic to each other in this world, perhaps fewer people, both male and female, would feel the need to seek sex just to make them feel wanted, seen, or some sort of connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 03:31 PM
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When did I say that? All i said is being more empathetic. Thats it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 03:27 PM
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Ok well, speak for yourself I guess? Examples to the contrary are indeed common. Rhetoric saying as much as easy to find.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 03:09 PM
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Where'd you get that? Talk about a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 03:08 PM
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Oh? I've read and heard MANY comments from women with a 'payback' sort of rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 02:46 PM
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lol, no. I'm just observing, but thanks for making tons of assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 02:45 PM
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Paranoid is right, I'm glad you use that word. It acknowledges that the fear is not based in reality much of the time. I'm fine with platonic, it takes a hell of a lot for me to catch feelings. I'm not some teenager who gets a new crush every week. You've got to be pretty special. In my experience, its not just paranoia, its pretty common for women these days to have a sort of revenge attitude towards men that objectifying invalidating and scorning them is not only fine, but good, because like, …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 02:21 PM
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The horror. So this is a reason many women are just cold and invalidating and objectifying to men? Honestly it just vibes like a very low consciousness 'payback' sort of resentful mentality to me. In my experience, I'm fine with platonic. It takes a heck of a lot for me to catch feelings for anyone. They've got to be pretty special.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 02:16 PM
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That's fine. The world would be a less lonely place if there were more empathetic people and people both men and women would feel less urge to use sex to feel the connection and feeling of being wanted or liked or just seen that is lacking in their lives. And sure it's not up to you to fix men. But it's also pretty odd than many women seem so resentful about giving men anything at all emotionally even platonically.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 05:27 AM
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I can get hookups. I have gotten gfs. I have not been able to get many female friends who value me for more than sex, and I find women in general are often cold dismissive and invalidating about men's feelings. That's kind of a shitty reality. And I have empathy for why. Women want independence and freedom from the patriarchy but also don't take responsibility for overcoming bitterness or resentment they have towards men who have done nothing wrong to them personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 05:25 AM
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Just because people aren't virgins doesn't mean they've found love. Divorce rates are terrible and are climbing. Many couples who stay together aren't exactly happy. The world would be a less lonely place if there were more empathetic people and people both men and women would feel less urge to use sex to feel the connection and feeling of being wanted or liked or just seen that is lacking in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 05:21 AM
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I think there's both. I think it's a wide spectrum .I think you can have a lot of empathy for women and still feel like they don't have much for you. You can even have empathy for why they wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 05:19 AM
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The world would be a less lonely place if there were more empathetic people and people both men and women would feel less urge to use sex to feel the connection and feeling of being wanted or liked or just seen that is lacking in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 05:18 AM
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That's fine. The world would be a less lonely place if there were more empathetic people and people both men and women would feel less urge to use sex to feel the connection and feeling of being wanted or liked or just seen that is lacking in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 05:17 AM
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There's a lot more to life than having a good time. Lack of empathy isn't akin to being a slaver but lacking empathy for an entire gender isn't exactly not doing anything wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 05:16 AM
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Feeling wanted is some ego shit. Like women chase validation from simps. Feeling connected is some real shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 05:14 AM
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I think human connection is a human need not romance per se. But when women are largely cold and distant it's hard to find. I can find hookups and I have found relationships. Oddly enough, during times in my life I haven't wanted to date and just wanted female friends I've had no luck with that except with women old enough to be my mother, and while I'm super grateful for those friends, they're awesome, it kind of sucks to not be able to make any female friends because many women these days seem…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 05:12 AM
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Women saying to themselves and each other that they should have more empathy for men would change a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 05:07 AM
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Youre right this is all meaningless to me, mostly because it all seems more like resentment and bitterness and perhaps arrogance than any sort of positive self esteem. Nothing you said convinced me at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 08:07 PM
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Not really. Be proud of something you've done. You can also have children with someone who would care about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 07:05 PM
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I think it's a really weird brag. Like hey look at my happy family I'm so proud of kind of make sense. Look at my career I'm proud of makes sense. Look at my lack of children that I'm so proud of not having is silly and weird and cringe. I'm sure the people who make negative comments have all sorts of different reasons tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 06:57 PM
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These are separate things. Using it as an excuse is different than creating a pervasive discourse around it. What reasoning is there that the discourse itself hurts anything? theres a lot of argument that validating it and talking about it helps people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 05:19 PM
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This is all true. It's also true trauma never goes away even with help. You learn how to cope with it better but it has changed you forever. That's why it's truama.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 03:53 PM
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This sounds like she has trauma from her previous experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 02:38 PM
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Because vanity is weakness. Weak men aren't desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 07:34 PM
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This is a valid point but it's not all complaints. Society being more isolated alienating and superficial and divided are all also valid observations and men aren't the only ones who think these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 08:41 PM
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The ones I know don't seem miserable, but they seem like they have a very low consciousness kind of happiness. More like, pleasure seeking than actually really happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 05:34 PM
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Saying even the nicest men can be violent is insane. No. Not all men are domestic abusers or will ever be.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 05:37 AM
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Women aren't more emotional. They're less rational. Both have emotions. Women just choose based on theirs without as much thoughts about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 05:36 AM
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lol. what system exactly? Existence?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 01:56 PM
1

Not if it's already going strong enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 02:22 PM
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I love smart strong women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 02:09 PM
1

And this argument is just a strawman. You know, not something I've said but a rediculous distortion to the extreme that it becomes easy to argue against.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 02:08 PM
1

But it's already started the feedback loop.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:39 AM
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Based on what? Why don't you demonstrate how the things you say are true? Like actually articulate a thought out response? Brevity is not the soul of wit often it's the soul of intellectual laziness. It will be an increasing feedback loop .
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:26 AM
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It's already a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:18 AM
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Are you putting words in my mouth? When did I ever say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 04:16 AM
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Just because theyve been through puberty doesn't mean they are mentally or emotionally mature. Can't believe I have to say this. Dudes literally arguing that just cus they aren't prepubescent little kids it should be fine. Holy fucking shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 03:58 AM
1

No but it's already happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 03:52 AM
1

But that's not when it's going to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 03:48 AM
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You assume. I don't pursue relationships with people I am obviously not compatiable with. So yes given attraction compatibility and willingness it only takes one. Keeping your options open is some chicken shit fence sitting bullshit. I get you're saying men want to feel like they have some options and don't just have to marry the first woman who will have them but still, if she's actually someone the man is willing to marry he won't give a shit about other options
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:53 PM
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If the option was workable, yes they would. Seriously if I meet someone I can spend my life with.im making a choice to not even notice anyone else. Yes I read what you wrote. Why else would I be replying to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:48 PM
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Seems like something's off about her personality huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:36 PM
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You're crazy. There are tons of guys who would be very much satisfied with a monogamous relationship. Are you basing this on anything at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:35 PM
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Idk I did pretty well before online dating virtually any girl I was actually attracted to who got to know me a little bit seemed to also have some attraction to me. I mostly just resent the amount of hoops I have to jump through now, and that the process is more akin to making a resume and having job interviews than it is to anything fun and exciting and that I'm reduced to numbers. Girls who are 5 foot 4 never actually say I'm not tall enough or anything in real life because I'm 5 11 but for so…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:33 PM
1

Yes we are in the end of the Holocene now. How am I a climate change denier if I'm saying literally the rest of the earths history has had more violent weather than the Holocene? What I'm saying is both factual and not denying climate change.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:26 PM
1

Just like the end result of communism. Nothing is perfect. The point is checks and balances.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:24 PM
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No they starved because instead of having the free market, they had mao who just up and decided hey we're doing the great leap forward it's going to be hard times for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 04:23 PM
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You don't have any ideas or even rebuttals you just have cynicism.and misanthropy. Let the adults talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 02:11 AM
2

I mean what else does a guy need gold for right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 01:54 AM
1

That can only do so much. Robots don't earn a paycheck to get taxed and to be spent on things that drive the economy, and keep goods being produced in mass scale to drive price per unit costs down. Sure, there will be those who build the robots, and supply and change their parts etc, but its not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 12:39 AM
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Oh god. I've had this conversation so many times before with you people. China was not capitalist during the great leap forward. Not at all. You're not a serious person. You don't have any ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 11:46 PM
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You could have said what you believe instead of making these vague comments in favor of societal collapse with no real purpose or value. Any reason? Cheerleading mass starvation and chaos because you don't like society? Yea just any ol reason, not because your comments are reprehensible and you refuse to say anthing to redeem yourself whatsoever. Its not my job to toothpull value out of you. ??
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 11:41 PM
1

But you're not cheerleading some sort of enlightened revolution. You're cheerleading chaos and mass starvation and collapse of society in general. It's ok. I get you're just an angry misanthrope not someone to take seriously or anything. I won't expect you to actually have anything to say worth reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 11:26 PM
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How is that the whole point of capitalism more so than any other form of government? More people have starved to death in China that in the USA even when adjusted for population size. Worse yet many were left to starve deliberately by mao choosing to engage in the so called great leap forward.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 11:25 PM
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Doomers not an insult it's an observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 11:23 PM
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I read what you said. It just didn't make any sense. Do you have an actual rebuttal? Cus you saying you're against violence but cheerleading changes that will cause mass chaos is crazy. Like you want to end violence by not having any people left? That's crazy person shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 11:07 PM
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How is that the goal of capitalism you overly dramatic misanthrope
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 11:05 PM
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I know. And we're a long ways away from coming up against any kind of carrying capacity of the arable farmland even with that. Doomer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 11:05 PM
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Well the alternative is mass starvation death chaos etc so you don't get to cheerlead that and claim to be against violence. You're just a misanthrope.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 11:04 PM
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The Holocene was ending before the industrial revolution ever even started. Humans have been around for over half a million years yet civilization only took off during the last ten thousand years because it was a short blip of the single nicest period of climate in all of earths geologic history. Things were bound to go back to the norm, which is far more.violent weather. And if we're going to survive that as a species we need advancing technology to do so. Economic collapse will stagnates techn…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 09:53 PM
3

We are so incredibly far from the carrying capacity of our natural resources
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 09:49 PM
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Oh yea mass starvation great. You should just say plainly that you hate people and want as many to die as possible and don't try and pretend like it's some belief that it would be good or best and not just gratifying to you emotionally .
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 09:48 PM
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Great yea but they're both a problem that's why I used the word also. Less people are trying to have kids. And fertility rates are going down especially among men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 09:40 PM
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Fertility rates are also dropping.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 08:57 PM
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No it's not. And if there aren't enough young people to keep the economy going it doesn't just shrink it collapses under the weight of the more numerous numbers of older people mass famine and an even more drastically plummeting birth rate results. Trying thinking through your misanthropic cynicism a bit more fully.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 08:57 PM
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Do you think simps contributed to the California gold rush of 1849 too? How did they factor into that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 05:23 PM
1

Do they actualy kiss your cheek? Cus from what i've seen the cultural norm is like little air kisses just next to the cheek.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 10:41 PM
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Why is it absurd for your parents to give you advice you can learn from about dating? You keep saying this like it's self evident. It's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 09:28 PM
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I feel like should have asked people to include what country they are from too. A lot of people judge 'fat' against 'normal'
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 09:03 PM
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Not really true for most athletes. Maybe true for body builders and athletes of like, the NFL only. Runners, mountain bikers, road bikers, mountain climbers, skiers, hockey players, soccer players, are all going to not be overweight, or maybe just on the border of whats considered overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 09:01 PM
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The second ones in prime bear shape, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 08:59 PM
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I'm a man and no it would just be an obvious incompatabiity. I spend all my free time skiing mountain biking climbing backpacking kayaking. I'm also into target shooting playing music and flying planes, but really, its the outdoor activities that I most want to share with a partner as those are the most like a lifestyle and not just a hobby to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 08:56 PM
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Is it not your parents duty to provide you with skills that will prepare you for life?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:07 PM
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Depends how. Done in the right way it shows strength of character, confidence in her ability to choose a good guy, agreeableness and lack of insecure ego etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:08 PM
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False.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:07 PM
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It was actually pretty unclear if you read it, but its ok, me and here had a polite back and forth and she clarified things.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 12:39 AM
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Yea I just wanted you to clarify it cus you made it seem like it was men as a whole. Plenty of men are fully capable of being in touch with their emotions and handling them naturally communicating them effectively etc. There are women these days that say women in general just shouldn't date men in general. Some of them frequent this sub too. I would however say that saying you don't want to date an entire gender, not because you just aren't into that gender, but because you find that entire gend…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 10:53 PM
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Yea, emotionally available can mean just willing to support her in her emotions, not actually having any of your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 10:20 PM
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Did you say men aren't the best people to date? Wow. Misandry much?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 10:18 PM
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People are fucking stupid and don't understand data, especially correlation vs causation, and are too likely to try to say some sort of study 'proves' something when these things are very seldom proven at all and most studies at best merely suggest that something might be connected in a causational way. I think a lot of people actually know this if they stop and really think about it, but its just gotten so commonplace in our society, the media, people on reddit, etc etc, to pretend a study actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 08:42 PM
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Kinda true. Or anyone who focuses myopically on their independence is self centered and ungrateful.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 02:56 PM
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Yea some guy who fucks a new girl every week isn't really looked up to by many guys. Like one immature guy will loudly and vocally proclaim that is what it means to be a Chad while most guys just wisely keep their mouths shut and don't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 03:53 AM
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I feel like women also just enjoy focusing on their looks and guys do not. Women enjoy taking selfies, most guys do not. Women enjoy doing their hair, most guys don't really. etc
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 09:51 PM
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I don't have to define anything. You made a statement. I'm asking you to demonstrate how its true. I'm not going to do your homework for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 07:43 PM
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Can you describe how its not?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 06:33 PM
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Cus they fuck a lot cus they're depressed cus they're poor and fucking is the cheapest hobby. Also, being poor puts you in a state of mind where you're more just focused on meeting immediate needs and repress thoughts about long term consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 07:59 PM
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I didn't say some parents don't feel regret. I said vocally child free women are insufferable, like vegans or crossfitters, and that many many parents do not regret having kids and enjoy embracing the responsibility and growth that comes with it. Nothing you said contradicts that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 03:34 PM
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Its not true though? To me an 18 year old is way too young for me to have any actual interest in. Saying all men are attracted to teenagers is really just an expression of prejudice. I'm sorry some men cat called you at a very young age. That was wrong, but thinking it was "all men" is absolutely just a prejudice. Very very few men want anything to do with anyone under 18, let alone an 11 year old. I would bet the percentage of men who have EVER felt any attraction to an 11 year old as a grown m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 01:51 PM
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Tell me you view the world in black and white and aren't capable of understanding nuance.. What I explained as that there are different kinds of vulnerability. Are you really this dumb or just arguing in bad faith? I have made this distinction clear multiple times. I'm going to assume bad faith. Bye bye now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 01:39 AM
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You're going in circles I already covered this. I talk to my friends but I don't want to cry with them. Different doesn't mean only. Unique doesn't mean sole. I literally already explained this two replies ago. I have to imagine your reading comprehension isn't that bad. Are you just not arguing in good faith?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 01:24 AM
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It's not a out societal conditioning. Tons of people are trying polyamory. If it worked there would be lots of success stories. Claiming there aren't because society isn't teaching it right is a cop out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 01:05 AM
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I don't want to. Why should I need to?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:56 AM
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Your use of hyperbole does not constitute an actual argument. No one seems to be able to make polyamory work. No one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:55 AM
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Not really, lots of people try polyamory and fail at making it work well.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:51 AM
1

Are there romance novels written for men? I thought the audiences were nearly entirely women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:51 PM
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Romance novels often portray a near schizophrenic level of contradiction in the traits of the male lead. Like a professional assassin who has killed literally hundreds of people but decides to protect this one woman cus shes special and he developed a soft spot for her or something. Those are two separate guys. The first one is a sociopathic killer with zero feelings, and the second is some big softie.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:50 PM
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Cus they're often insufferable. Dont really care if you choose to not have kids, but they often have to tell you about that choice and justify it as if you're asking them to have your kids. And because they have the attitude you have, all about their freedom etc, and no value for meaning fulfillment family connection responsibility etc. Those are things parents often do not regret having.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 11:31 PM
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But there is no society that thinks vegetables are the devil. That will never be a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 10:38 PM
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IT changes your tax and financial situation significantly, as well as who is considered next of kin for medical things and all sorts of stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 09:32 PM
1

Honestly a lot of studies are fucking stupid, in a variety of topics. Many don't prove anything at all and many barely prove correlation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 09:31 PM
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The climate change bit isn't true at all. Human civilization only took off during the Holocene which was the single nicest climate in all of earths history. The Holocene was already ending before the industrial revolution began.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 09:08 PM
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I think it comes from the fact people have feelings when they have sex its a very intimate act, and the idea you can just divorce yourself from that, is a delusion. I've never even witnessed healthy CNM. This is a thing you THINK because its a thing you WANT to be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 08:15 PM
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My emotions are not any sort of dam bursting. I can regulate my emotions just fine. Ironically, with my ex, she would go on about drama with her co workers for HOURS on end. I've never done that in my life
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 08:14 PM
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This is not an answer to my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:46 PM
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Sources? You better have more than one just flawed poll with a small sample size. Because I have not encountered that. ​ Besides you're not really contradicting my point that men don't really respect men who just chase phsyical gratification above all else either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:46 PM
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No they aren't. Women are free to sleep with whoever they want too. No one is free from having someone judge them for their actions, often unfairly. Your assertion men are "usually" very careless and hurt people is just a bias. You're just a misandrist. Women are quite capable of being careless as well and I haven't seen them be any more careful with mens feelings. And no, I brought up people getting hurt in general. Your assertion I only bring it up when women are the subject matter is a crazy …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:43 PM
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IME from myself and others, FWB deals usually end up with people getting hurt and the idea that no one gets hurt is kind of a pipe dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:46 PM
0

At a certain point, being promiscuous means less likelihood of relationships doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:45 PM
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So what you're saying, is there are significant downsides to being highly promiscuous?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:44 PM
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Most men haven't decided that, and regard men who chase mere physical gratification and ego boosts from sex with random people as low consciousness and having insecurities they aren't addressing and problems with impulse control.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:43 PM
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I don't think its really a great respectable thing for men to just chase physical gratification either. Love, connection, etc, great chase those, but just meaningless phsycial gratification and feeding your ego? Low consciousness and trashy, and representative of minimal impulse control..
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:42 PM
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Because women resent men's feelings because men are supposed to be strong and stoic and providers and rising above societal gender roles is really just a one way street and not something women should have to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:26 PM
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No its not. Her point is still valid even if its the women doing the inheriting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:23 PM
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I did not say sole outlet. Thers nothing about the word confidant that implies you don't talk to anyone else, but rather, that it implies a more intimate level of connection and sharing. I have no desire to cry with my male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:19 PM
2

You wanna raise kids with a FWB?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:57 PM
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But I don't have incel rage. What were talking about is way more widespread than incels. There are a lot of women who resent having to give their male partners anything emotionally. Men don't want to make other men their confidant thought. We're just not like that. We can validate each other, hype each other up, give each other acceptance, trust in each other to be there for us if we're ever really going through some shit etc, but we just don't want our male friendships to always be in that plac…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:51 PM
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When did I say therapist? There's a huge difference between a therapist and confidant. Should women not talk about their feelings with their male partners? Seems like a double standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:45 PM
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I'm not making that mistake. Female friends are great. But you're still going to be more open and vulnerable with your actual partner than just friends, if nothing else just sharing more about yourself. No one said have one single woman to meet all your needs. I specifically mentioned talking about feelings with male friends it's just in a very different way. But ok Yea just start with the idea I'm making some sort of mistake and not describing anything valid about the male experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:44 PM
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Confidant isn't therapist. Women use men as a confidant. What's the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 03:41 PM
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Yea it was just an example. But it does highlight differences. I've never met a woman who found that particular topic remotely interesting even women who liked guns or fencing. Men just aren't women. We evolved to hunt together. Women evolved to talk together. Men want friends we can trust and rely on on the sense of like, to have our backs hunting a mammoth. I edited in some stuff on my last reply not sure if you saw it maybe take another look. Regardless you gotta accept men are different than…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:26 AM
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Well we do but it's different. Like if you're going through something you can talk to your guy friends. In some ways you can talk to them in ways you can't talk to a woman. They can display a kind of empathy of like, dude I really get what you're going through I totally understand and understand how big of a deal it is.... Buuuut there's also just a thing that guy's don't want to discuss it as nauseam and pick it apart together to the same extent you do with a real confidant. There's a value on …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 06:19 AM
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Don't be a dick. She's trying to understand something not ranting to be judgemental.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:59 AM
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Men don't want to make all their guy friends confidants. They just want buddies who they love like buddies but don't want to talk about feelings with. But they want a woman who is a confidant and partner who they can talk about feelings with. It's not super hard to understand. Guys just don't want male relationships to be like that cus we're guys. We like to joke around with each other share hobbies and interests and intellectual pursuits that women typically are less interested in. Sure there a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:58 AM
1

Everyone has to self improve because wtf is the point of not improving yourself in life?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:32 AM
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You guys? Who's that? I don't need you to respond with anything. I just find such responses to be more embarrassing for the one making them than anyone else regardless what the topic is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 07:48 PM
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People respond like this when they don't have a meaningful rebuttal. Maybe you'd be more convincing if you a few extra hahaha?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 06:57 PM
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They come from the matrix right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:18 AM
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Sure buddy, whatever makes you feel good.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 02:38 AM
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idk man, I make my kids pay the bill if they want the privilege of having lunch with me. ​ IN all seriousness, I'm all about providing emotional support to my woman, but why the fuck would I be with a woman who doesn't provide it back? A parental relationship is a one way street. Romantic relationships should not be.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:26 PM
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No that's fine, I was more just curious about it being a purely one way street. If women just take from men, why would men be motivated to keep giving to them and not just find a woman who provides something in return?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 10:54 PM
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Wow, thats some hostility. No, I feel like its great to help others. I just don't feel attracted to people who are takers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 08:56 PM
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I like the idea of a couple learning from each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 08:55 PM
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Oh come on thats a cop out. We've all got deeper issues. I was being respectful and polite and I'd like to know more. Can you answer me if you think there are any duties women have respectively?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 08:17 PM
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And what motivation do I have to do this? Do women have any duties they need to fulfill?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 08:12 PM
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Hmm. This is interesting. And what exactly does a woman provide in return? Just like sex or at some point does it shift into emotional support or is that not a thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:55 PM
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Interesting. And do you feel like this shoud be reciprocal, between like platonic male and female friends, or just something men should do for women? Cus honestly I've found and heard that if you start a relationship by showing a woman you'll solve her problems for her, it creates a really bad framework where she will get mad at you if you can't just solve everything for her and theres no end to it. IT doesn't lead to gratitude it leads to entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:28 PM
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Ok so volunteer work or something. ok. That isn't really 'taking care of' others, to just nitpick about specific word choice, thats kind of what I got hung up on, was like, do I need to be providing for others? But ok, just trying to do good int he world can count that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:11 PM
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Ya know as a side note, why don't you just articulate your actual point in your first reply? Like going back and forth to get you to actually say what you're trying to is like pulling fucking teeth and by this point I've lost patience to even talk about the topic at hand. Why didn't you just say this first? Articulate an actual point. Brevity is rarely the soul of wit. I'm not a mind reading and having to go through multple replies trying to guess exactly what you're trying to say is so tiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:07 PM
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NO you werent accurate. I made a valid point and you made a low tier quibbling argument that it was completely invalid because you made a tiny distinction about timing which wasn't even really correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:00 PM
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Ok. But like, if I take care of myself just fine, and I don't really have anyone else who needs taking care of, is that a detractor?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:55 PM
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idk, once women get to know me they are often attracted to me, but they do not often seem to be when they first meet me. I don't like to preen like a peacock.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:48 PM
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And you're 16. In ten years that 10/10 will have a receeding hairline etc
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:47 PM
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This seems like a wierd dichotomy. I get you're not saying there isn't anything esle besides these, but either take care of and sacrifice for people or stay at home and wallow? What abotu pursuing your passions, expericing life etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:45 PM
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Well you didn't respond to my actual points so I think its more your incapabilities than my lack of anything to offer. Bye then.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:03 PM
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Anecdotal. Women who get left tend to go on social media to talk about it a lot more often and you really cannot assert these relationships were healthy and functional just based off a one sided reddit post. I mean seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:50 PM
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Ok I get you've got nothing to offer than this unrelated non sequitur.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:49 PM
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You're done because you've got nothing but smug snark.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 04:06 PM
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I don't really care to convince anyone. They've been talked about and posted in this sub multiple times, by me and many others. I'm not going to go googling tonight to win any internet arguments. You can though. Honestly you can find data both confirming and contradicting my points, as you can with many things. People's desire for 'proof' is understandable, but peoples attitude that one article or study constitutes proof of very much is incredibly silly when on almost any topic you can find data…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:01 AM
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This is your only reply?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:54 AM
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Don't be patronizing. I know I'm not your loved on. I was not off at all. It was a 100 year long process, I simply noted the end of it. You referred to my assertion I was correct as "absolutely not" which is just not accurate, even given a 100 year discrepancy over the entire course of human history, what I said is still basically correct, especially so considering it was a 100 year long change that culminated 400 years ago. Why are you like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:06 AM
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Thats the same sentence that says those were the stats after a century long significant increase that took place right around the time I said it did. What about the stats from 100 years before that? You were saying women have been kept from learning to read for all of human history, when in reality, virtually no one could read for most of human history. Then you found stats for just AFTER that started to change. So, what I said was correct. The rise in literacy started about 500 years ago and re…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:51 PM
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So what I said was correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:33 PM
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Up until like 400 years ago, virtually no one could read.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:21 PM
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You should articulate a point if you're trying to make one. This doesn't count and Im just going to ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 10:31 PM
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I don't really give a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:56 PM
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And women that wnat to date men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:06 PM
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There are tons of studies. Less serial cheaters, more likey to cheat if they feel its 'justified' feel free to go look it up, theres tons of studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:06 PM
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Well if you have this ideology you prescribe to ALL women you're not just saying their choices are up to them, and you should have some explanation for how it applies to the species as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 10:15 PM
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Not really. A very small percentage of men cheat, and those that do are usually serial cheaters. A larger percentage of women are willing to cheat if the relationship isn't quite what they'd hoped and they're bored or whatever, but much fewer percentage are habitual unrepentant serial cheaters. So basically we're saying that out of all men, a small percentage are cluster B personality disordered and willing to cheat just because.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 10:14 PM
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Yea, its obvious you don't beleive mens only value is their money and status. You described their value as attention and validation. Seems thats all you see their value as.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 08:46 PM
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This is funny to me. How does it relate to procreation? Just people should stop breeding and the human race should die out? Or just, women who want kids should just go to sperm banks?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 08:44 PM
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Ahh, a cynic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 08:43 PM
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Well a lot of youth beingn attractive isn't looks. Its openness, adventerousness, hope, optimism, potential and possibility, curiosity, etc etc. So he doesn't have to imagine anything. He remembers her as who she was when they met, in ways more meaningful than just looks, and if she has changed, well, he has grown and changed with her and is bonded to her because of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 08:42 PM
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Wife goggles doesn't even apply just to looks. It applies to openness adventurousnes etc etc. But by the time they are older, if they don't adventure any more, well theyve shared all those memories together.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 08:41 PM
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Its what I've seen of the world. Men don't tend to just up and leave healthy functional marraiges in search of younger women. A man might have a harder time falling in love with a woman the older she is, and the older he is, really, the older anyone is the less open they are etc, but once a man has fallen in love, the vast majority, are loyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 08:39 PM
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There's something that happens for men, when they fall in love, they stay in love, as their woman ages. Very few men just lose attraction because their wife gets old. They might lose attraction because their wife gets fat as she gets older, but if she stays somewhat fit, they don't one day just wake up and feel like they want a younger woman. You hear about men leaving their wives for younger women, but its not because the other woman was younger, its because the marriage wasn't working. Men don…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 08:38 PM
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Oh do shut up. Plenty of people with trauma have high levels of empathy and learn and grow and heal just fine while plenty of people who are sheltered and enabled by toxic but not abusive parents grow up incapable of empathy and self centered as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 05:05 AM
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I think there's more to sex than ego or physical stimulation. Like connection to another human and intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 03:57 PM
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Yea, totally, raising kids is not something that provides any meaning or fulfillment at all, and having family that cares about you in your old age or even grandkids is just not worth anything at all and everyone always totally regrets that and is totally stoked to wind up all alone in a nursing home with no one to give a shit about them. ​ Its funny how you describe you will "probably grow to love" your kids. With that attitude I'm sure you shouldnt breed or raise kids. Most people just are cap…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 01:30 AM
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I'm so sick of this narrative that a guy is shy if hes not asking girls out. I'm not shy. Im not scared, but its low consciousness behavior and a waste of fucking time and energy to go chasing women who have given you no signs of being interested. So come up to me, start a conversation, do something, and I'll take it from there. If its completely one sided I'm not going to simp and convince you. I'm pretty sure there are a lot of great guys girls are missing out on because women only select from…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 12:04 AM
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No problem, my pleasure! Feel free to peer pressure me into anything else!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 12:01 AM
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Ehhh, you more just asked nicely, so sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 11:51 PM
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I guess I feel like I covered politics, jobs, and build with my above desription. I don't care much about hair or eye color. Blond and green eyes sounds cool but really not set on that. In terms of sexuality, not highly promiscuous, slept with few enough people that she has always felt like sex is a special and vulnerable thing that she only chooses to have with very special people. Religion could be literally anything, as long as she matches the above independent thinking deal. And build is imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 11:19 PM
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There's a few key qualities you're leaving out. intelligence, capacity for independent thought, and ability to go against the norm/grain, not in a truly obstinate way, but just in an indpendent way, more like living and acting based on their independent thoughts, are all important to me, as are the attitude that she be willing to work on herself and view life as a journey of learning and growth, as well as an adventure. I don't give a shit fi she makes more or less than me, or the status of her …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 10:09 PM
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Preferring people who are fit and healthy is perfectly fine, and its what we have been evolving to do for millions of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 09:05 PM
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I think back in the 30s they maybe didn't find women they thought were hot, but just found women willing to get naked pictures taken of them. I doubt they were picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 09:04 PM
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Fucking nothing. If shes that paranoid I'm not going to be able to demonstrate that I'm not a threat. The biggest thing I can do to show I'm not a threat is be indifferent. If its someone I'm actually dating, I go to great lengths to make them feel like being with me is a safe place to have emotions, but thats more about showing them they won't be judged, and will receive empathy and support, than showing them they aren't going to get murdered kidnapped sex trafficked etc. Those are rediculous a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 07:29 PM
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Theres this weird thing that dogs virtually never seem to fuck with people who like dogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 08:02 PM
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Ok but it sounds like you both just have bad communication. I asked if you asked him why he didn't meet your needs or better yet what would he need to do so and it just sounds like neither of you really talks to the other. Did my original point have any validity at all? Or it's just women who are so wonderful and patient and tireless and selfless and never ever have a skewed perspective about ratios of workload or emotional support?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:32 PM
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How are these stats about women's workload gathered? Self reported? I think both partners typically have skewed persepctives. Yea a vasectomy is totally no big deal at all. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 03:50 PM
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So you're saying the men are typically the first ones to check out. I don't think that's the case. I think both parties check out together. You communicated your needs and asked support but did you ask what your husband needed in order to feel good about meeting those requirements? Regardless of your specific example I can say in my relationships I only ever got checked out and depressed because I as a man felt uncared for and unvalued and resented. And my exes all say they miss me and I was the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:46 PM
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And their partners gave up when they perceived the women as having withdrawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:34 PM
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I think this is a two way street and typically only happens as the woman also withdraws from giving affection appreciation etc with both person feeling like they have been slighted.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:58 AM
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Clingyness, which is obsessive love, is not real love. They aren't attached to who you really are, but to not being alone. You are more replaceable than someone who acts like they could be ok without and be ok being alone. Someone who clings cannot be alone, but absolutly can quickly replace you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:27 AM
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This is true and I up voted you, but at the same time you can say that while a guy who just wound up homeless, a woman in the same circumstances could have been forced into sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:34 AM
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Why not? What is wrong with a society having some inhibitions when it comes to sex? I get a society shouldn't be like completely repressed but surely there's a balance between them? I don't think the human response to find these people gross is just societal conditioning or an expression of personal hangups or repression or something. I think some amount of inhibition is healthy and a complete lack of inhibitions is super unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 02:33 AM
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Really? Seems to me there are huge problems with their society they basically refuse to socialize or breed and are about to have imminent demographic collapse because of it. Weird hill to die on for you tho. There is tons of research that shows physical activity is vital to mental emotional and physical health.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:22 PM
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Or dismissing men who feel like giving sales pitches for themselves is low consciousness and not conducive to their enlightenment growth etc .
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:06 PM
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There is so much wasted time teaching busy work. Scandinavian schools that have more experiential and outdoor education have better outcomes for college matriculation and success rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:03 PM
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I have an iq of 160 supposedly and did not finish college. I did all right academically but did not enjoy my time there. I think it's about a lot more than some men not being smart enough. I think it's about ideologies that reach masculinity is toxic inherently and other things. I also think the social aspect is somewhat overwhelming, the sheer number of people you meet names you have to remember and relationships you have to somewhat maintain is far exceeding what most people are used to but wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 04:01 PM
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Shocking and common sense all at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 07:33 AM
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What is it bad in this case? Steering clear of people with extremely high counts for sexual partners is not going to be a bad idea. Its good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 12:54 AM
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I think this would make me sadder and lonelier and reduce my ability to talk to actual people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:58 PM
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There's a lot of research to support the correlations I stated. But ok Yea I get people like you want to just think everything is a societal construct and you're so enlightened for breaking free of things like this. Funny thing is history repeats itself and societies where your view becomes common are always societies in decline. They are never utopia's or societies on the rise. You're just basing your view in a desire to believe that the world can work that way and freedom to follow whatever he…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:37 PM
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That is what research and colloquial knowledge says yes. To most people this isn't really controversial. People typically don't engage in the most intimate physical act with hundreds of strangers unless they're running from something or have some sort of serious issues. People who are well adjusted might experiment a bit but don't typically feel the desire to fuck someone new every week for years.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:25 PM
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I don't think I'm rare though. Perhaps not even in the minority. The men who are how you describe might be more apparent to women because their behavior makes them obvious but I see no reason to think they are in the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 12:47 AM
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As a man, sex really isn't anything all that worth chasing if there isn't emotional connection. Especially if you have to deal with know it caused anguish or emotional pain for the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 12:15 AM
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I think this is a gross simplification. As a man I do not find the mere existence of a physically attractive woman to turn me on and if she seems rto expect that it will its a huge turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 12:07 AM
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I have a pretty good idea. There is an extremely heavy overlap and high correlation between people with that high of numbers and serious mental illness substance abuse and STDs. Sure you can live in some fantasy world where nothing matters and everything is just prude societal constructs but it's kind of just delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 11:10 PM
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I'm a man I don't do anything for skincare don't even wear sunblock and people always tell me I look a decade or more younger than I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 04:16 PM
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Or it could just mean you aren't socializing very much or finding the right places to meet women. I've had opportunities for casual sex previously but don't seem to now which is fine because I don't really have any interest in casual sex, but it's not like women are pursuing me and propositioning me out of the blue just from seeing me at the grocery store or something .
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 01:47 AM
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I wonder how women here feel about hypothetically if a man is a better cook and he cooks and she does the dishes?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 02:40 PM
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But you don't need to find the cause if women who've fucked hundreds of men aren't good wives you just need to avoid them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 12:30 AM
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Your three notions are ridiculous. This doesn't show long term data. Alcohol is present in almost all assaults sexual assaults and rapes and murders. For all we know people were just going to hookers instead of the bar and it's not the hookers but the not going to the bar that was the key variable. For all we know on a longer term basis these men would be both going to the bar and going to hookers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 08:35 PM
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Ok Yea great. It could just be that the kind of women who fuck 300 guys are fucking nuts because sane women don't do that. Regardless, avoiding marrying women who have fucked 300 dudes is a sound conclusion, unlike with your analogy this conclusion is sound either way and causation.is actually irrelevant in this case. Doesn't matter if it's childhood trauma or she's just born that way or whatever she's not going to make a decent wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 05:25 PM
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It depends what you define as high but at the extreme ends yea for sure. A woman who has fucked 300 guys is not going to be a faithful committed wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 01:53 PM
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A ten year age gap between people that got married after the age of thirty used to be incredibly common in previous generations and not lead to divorce. Of course that's not old men dating young women, but the way this poster describes it is like you better date someone your exact age or else disaster awaits.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 01:51 PM
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Thank you. That's nice of you. I can see your humanity as evidenced by the fact you responded to me expressing my perspective just by sharing your own experience as being different and wishing me the best, not responding with hostility just because my perspective is different or reflects negative experiences. I'm not a misogynist at all, I don't hate women or think they are inherently bad or anything, but there does seem to be widespread normalized misandry these days and fewer women seem even i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 02:23 AM
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I am happy for you. It seems a rarity these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 01:57 AM
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Cool story. It seems to be the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 01:38 AM
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I know some from older generations. None younger than 40.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 01:26 AM
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I've seen plenty of women who love their kids but none who's love for their man seems to last.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 01:18 AM
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No one lied. I just have a different take than you. You really are nuts huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 12:12 AM
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I'm not a red pill guy. Keep making assumptions and swearing and acting like a child. Maybe people wouldn't note these things if you didn't do them and stuck to discussing things people say and not the assumptions you make about who you think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:24 PM
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But this is in and of itself, a prejudicial misandrist stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 10:50 PM
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So if none of those variables are existent, what did she do to earn it? Just marry and divorce a rich guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 10:39 PM
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I understand you're being as straightforward as you're capable of and the various intellectually dishonesty things you're doing are not deliberate and this is the best you can do. Ok but you didn't say divorces where there are kids or where the woman gave up her career or even had a career to begin with. You said typically in divorces so it seems like you think she should get the house even when these variables are not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 10:36 PM
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You didn't answer my question. Just sprouted some shit that wasn't even related to what I said and based on assumptions. I'm not making some comment about what the majority of marriages are or aren't. I'm questioning you on a statement you made about how the entirety of divorces should go. Can you answer the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 10:31 PM
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How did she earn it? By marrying a rich guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 10:27 PM
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I'm just shocked someone who labels themselves as a misandrist is a troll???!!! You're right tho. Rather kind of her to let us know she's operating off a bias, arguing in bad faith, and we shouldn't take anything she says seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 10:05 PM
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Ok bye now. And you do seem offended given your swearing and lmao ing. You seem very fragile. Have a great day. Bye bye now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 10:04 PM
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I'm literally just going off what you just said. I'm all about nuance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 10:03 PM
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Bye bye now. It's not a biased assumption. It's a relevant thing you lack the ability to address. You can't have a discussion where you actually look at someone elses points. You need to ignore them and say things like lmao and swear because you lack the ability to actually articulate responses to them which you feel are adequate enough to stand on their own without such behavior. Like when I admitted the things you say are not untrue, but then explained how they don't contradict my point, I was…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 09:49 PM
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So your purpose here is basically to invalidate valid fears men have? Women's trust issues with men are super valid men who may distrust women need to be poked and prodded and accused of misogyny when they say nothing hateful about women at all? This is who you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 09:43 PM
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Ok what was your purpose here? To make unfounded accusations of misogyny to provide yourself with emotional gratification?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 09:36 PM
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Your points have some validity they aren't inherently false but they don't contradict the fact a woman is better off after marrying a man who has a lot more money than she does and she's still better off after divorcing him than she was before she met him. Nothing you've said contradicts that. This is why you got so upset you have to swear and stamp your foot even though I've been perfectly respectful, because you don't actually have a response to that and can't admit it when anyone else says an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 09:30 PM
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Your points do not fundamentally contradict my point. Maybe I'll keep saying bye if I want to. You seem big time mad just because someone has a different perspective than you to the point you can't regulate your emotions. Bye bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 09:18 PM
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A truly compelling argument on par with what seems to be typical for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 09:17 PM
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Yes I'm sure you think youve never had anything to improve on in your entire life. Yes I'm sure aggression is warranted when anyone disagrees with you. And no you have yet to address my very first point, you said it wasn't relevant and did not demonstrate how this was the case. Bye now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 08:41 PM
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This is an absurd question. It depends on the marriage. It's also not relevant because I never said anything about women's fault in divorce. Stop arguing with what you imagine I'm like and assume I think and try just interacting with what people actually say. Probably go outside and touch grass well. Maybe pet a dog. I'm done with you. I hope you have a nice day but talking to you has been without value to me. You haven't had a discussion but more just thrown a tantrum. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 08:39 PM
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No it's not at all. I said nothing hateful about women at all. This is just you and your shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 08:35 PM
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You should try interacting with what people actually say instead of making assumptions and building strawmen about who you bet they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 08:25 PM
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I'm childlike and you're the one who can't act civil and needs to swear?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 08:22 PM
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Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 08:20 PM
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I haven't said anything close to that, but if you need to resort to this kind of childish tantrum because you lack the ability to communicate whatever is your point effectively I'll note that and discontinue interaction with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 08:20 PM
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What data am I ignoring? Cus it seems to me you're ignoring data by only comparing post marriage and ore divorce. Sure there's a tax break for getting married and some shares bills but if you make more and have more wealth than your wife and she takes half in the divorce she benefited from the entire process of marriage and divorce more than you even if she benefited the most during the marriage. How is this not true and what precisely am I ignoring? Cus it seems like you're projecting when you …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:28 PM
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Ok great. Again this doesn't address my actual points. Thanks tho I'll make sure to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:17 PM
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No this is deliberately misconstruing that women marry guys with more money than them and benefit from the marriage including the subsequent divorce. Comparing just pre and post divorce isn't an accurate picture. Even withing that your own links compare household income ore and post divorce. If a household is two people the income needs to be twice as much. This is basic logic. Your Atlantic link is just one anecdotal example of a woman who quit her career to be a stay at home mom. One example. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:14 PM
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Again you're not addressing my actual points. Regardless of how you'd feel women tend to get more than half the assets or at least more assets than they brought into the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:05 PM
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Did I say they shouldn't? But it's a huge asset typically the most valuable asset either part will ever own. What about when both parents have equal role in the kids lives and the woman still gets the house? Way to not actually address my point but argue something I didn't say that doesn't actually undermine my points.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:04 PM
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Yea like I said they are comparing married to divorced .not pre marriage to post divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:02 PM
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I get you're not suggesting someone should do this but honestly I can't help but think you're a bit crazy for it even occuring to you. If someone's mom disowned them for identifying as an incel I'd feel very unsurprised they had issues with women with a mother that narcissistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 04:55 PM
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Lol disown your son for being an incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 04:41 PM
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How is it irrelevant she is better off after divorce than she was before getting married? Also houses are a huge asset,, vastly out of proportion to child care costs and courts are also biased even when parents share equal custody to give assets like houses to women. So you don't have any sources?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 03:36 PM
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Do you have a source for this? I would bet money it is using household income before and after divorce, not household income per person before marriage and after divorce. I'm not responding to your second question. If you really have to ask I don't think you'll believe there could be any, which proves my point. You really don't think there could be any?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 03:34 PM
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Source? Just because there isn't alimony doesn't mean they don't get the house and other assets. Are they worse off after the divorce compared to immediately before the divorce, or before their marriage began?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 02:41 PM
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Women don't get rich from marrying and divorcing men? How is that bullshit? I think there is spiritual and emotional value for women in being with some men, but widespread normalized misandry discounts this so completely it seems foreign to think that men may have anything to offer women spiritually or even emotionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 02:40 PM
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I think anyone who thinks it's absolutely purely any one of these is smooth brained.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 01:42 AM
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I don't think anyone was bragging.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 06:11 PM
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Ok thanks for the response. My family sucked but it doesn't mean I wouldn't value the healthy relationships in my life or be a good father. Really I think for some people having bad parents makes them turn out to be more empathetic and patient parents themselves. I hear women list this as a criteria and it's just so far outside my control.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 04:00 PM
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Why is has a good relationship with his family so important?? As opposed to having childhood trauma that is addressed and having learned and grown from it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 03:24 PM
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Women don't pressure you the way men pressure. Women expect you to be ready when they are and if you're not they shame you as being less of a man or just ghost you because they don't perceive you as being strong and manly enough. The funny part is this still seems to be the case when you're not being timid or insecure, but rather just see red flags and aren't entirely sure about getting involved with that particular woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 10:03 PM
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Many men want to be married they just struggle to trust women enough to marry them. In my experience the people who celebrate being single and childless for their entire lives are typically female, although there are a few mgtow types as well, but honestly lots of those guys express a desire to have a wife and kids just feel an unwillingness to spend their time and energy chasing it. My perception is just based on my experience but you seem to be referencing some sort of study. Do you have a lin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:55 PM
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It contributes to the kids feeling like they have a real family. Are you going to respond to my assertion that marriage is something men value?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 03:21 PM
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I think you're wrong about most men not caring about wanting marriage. I'm a man and I want kids and want to be married to their mother at the very least so they have a stable family.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 02:32 PM
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Babies can happen accidentally but there are also tons of couples that try for a long time and don't succeed even though both are fertile, and there are plenty who are reckless and don't take precautions and still don't wind up pregnant. Just because the birth rate hasn't dropped to zero doesn't mean there isn't a problem. Do you understand how and inverted population pyramid can cause demographic and widespread economic collapse and famine which will further drastically reduce birth rates?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 05:45 AM
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What you say doesn't seem true to me. You'd need absolutely no women to get pregnant before you thought there was any problems? All natural procreation would have to be completely impossible for you to think there's any possibility of a problem? You realize this is incredibly binary thinking right? The fact is it has become more difficult for couples to achieve pregnancy and this will result in lower birth rates. If you combine this with socioeconomic factors making it less likely for people to …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 05:01 AM
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No I didn't. I specifically mentioned it. Some studies show a decline some do not. Why are you misconstruing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 02:39 AM
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The article you linked does not offer the same description you did. It doesn't say those studies are faulty just that there are other studies that show less evidence of a drop and it's hard to measure. Still, studies showing a drop are concerning and not something we should ignore.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 02:24 AM
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It's not just socioeconomic tho. Men's sperm counts in the USA have been decreasing by one percent a year for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 01:31 AM
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But it isn't just socioeconomic factors like people in developed countries are less motivated to breed, male sperm counts have also been decreasing by one percent a year since the fifties.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 01:25 AM
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Women want me I just have severe trust issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 03:14 PM
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Well if he's already a male, becoming a responsible adult will make him a man. ​ I mean you could also include a rite of passage like killing and eating his first rival warrior or something but ehh.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 05:19 PM
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Kind of. The studies show women are more picky when it comes to looks but also prioritize looks less. So they'll rare men lower overall but be more likely to be attracted to traits other than just looks. But when strictly rating looks they are straight up delusional rating up to ninety percent of men as below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 01:46 PM
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I don't think it's a binary question. I think some amount of submission is essential. Like if a woman is highly obstinate she's not going to be dateable. Both people have to be open to compromise and in some ways at least some of the time I think a woman should be submissive. The thing is this also applies to men, but in men it's not submissiveness. It's humoring their woman even when they know their woman is wrong. This is a common trope with male and female comedians that women are right even …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 09:16 PM
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Do what carl Jung called integrate your shadow.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 06:17 PM
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It's not a solution to wanting to have healthy kids. It's giving up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 01:21 AM
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So what was the use of your suggestion? Besides just you having an emotion of not wanting people to have kids? How is it a solution for people who want to have healthy kids or are concerned about society as a whole? It's not. It's just an idiotic smug little well don't have kids then. You cannot articulate it's use or purpose. Nothing's eating at me I'm super glad you removed yourself from the gene pool. Probably your greatest contribution to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 12:08 AM
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Then the argument you made is idiotically irrelevant. Someone would only be concerned with the issue of children's mental health if they actually wanted kids or were concerned about society as a whole. In both cases your advice is absolutely useless. What was the point of it? I'm glad you're not going to breed or rase children.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 11:45 PM
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This is in no way a strawman. You're just an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 10:29 PM
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I don't care about your life. Suggesting not having kids is a successful strategy to people who want to have healthy well adjusted kids is peak idiocy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 09:54 PM
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But plenty of people have had kids who aren't mentally ill. It's not a causal variable. This is crazy. It's like cutting off an arm to remove a splinter. And it's not a solution if the goal is to have well adjusted children. I think your goal is just to not have kids because you're a cynical misanthropic nihilist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 04:25 PM
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As a 38 year old man I think there are a few diamonds in the rough at that age, but can also say they're wise enough to be picky and won't be simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:47 PM
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So what you're saying is that because mental health in kids is a problem, no one should have kids and the human race should just grind to a halt? You'll probably say oh that's not what I mean but really it's not an outright distortion. Having kids isn't what has caused the uptick of mental illness, and the human race ceasing to exist is not a reasonable solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:40 PM
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Weird take. It's like saying a driver of suicide is being born. Technically true in a reductionist oversimplified myopic kind of way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:24 AM
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A discussion sounds nice. I don't think you're having a discussion or know how to. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:44 PM
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That wasn't my scorecard. Thats your scorecard, diminshing everything down to just getting a wife, not whether or not the life you have with her is well lived and leads to long term happiness and relationship succes or well adjusted children. Your goal might not be to be a dick you just seem like you are one. Your first reply was to say my comment wasn't relevant, and instead of admitting my rebuttal to that indeed describes its relevancy and debating it on its merits you just pivot to dismissiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:35 PM
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Wow you're a dick. I'm sure if you do have kids they totally won't grow up to hate you and want nothing to do with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:19 PM
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Ehhh, it seems on topic for to me. Like Id' like to have a wife and kids but focusing on nothing but basically material things seems like a very lame success strategy and possibly one that might lead to the wife and kids but not ultimately to the happy long lasting marriage and well adjusted happy children. Seems extremely topical given divorce rates and rates of mental illness in children these days but you can ignore answers that are inconvenient to you if you choose but its a pretty lame resp…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:08 PM
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I get the being in shape and looking good part, but life is about more than just making as much money as possible. Its about living life. And even the looking good part, like ok take a shower and groom yourself but fashion is boring vain low consciousness preening.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 10:55 PM
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There have been studies on this. A lot. Most.men are loyal through and through. A small.number of men are serial cheaters. Most women will cheat if their relationship isn't going well and they feel it's justified but arent serial cheaters.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 02:11 AM
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I mean that's always a part of it but there can be a lot more. Some people just like the rush and the egotistical feeling that they're so freaking rad you have no idea. Other people like confronting fear, turning it from something that traumatized you into something you can dance and play with instead of be controlled by, as well as the mental aspect of visualization of extreme focus as well as the feeling of flowing fluid motion and feeling connected to the river the snow the mountain the weath…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 09:53 PM
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Did I not answer already? There needs to be some overlap but it doesn't have to be 100%. And yea of course I'd be interested in their hobbies as well they're a partner not a dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 08:49 PM
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They don't have to be the exact same but there should be some overlap or else we'll never end up spending much time together. Especially if you're passionate about things like multi day backpacking or river trips, 8 hour cross country mountain bike rides, etc. She doesn't have to share all my hobbies but she better be into some adventure sports and have an adventurous spirit that goes deeper than ego and adrenalin and has a spiritual connection to nature. I've never been a great rock climber and…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 08:14 PM
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I don't give a fuck about counting macros but she better be passionate about the outdoors and adventure sports cus that's what I spend my time doing and she better be dedicated enough to those things she's also willing to hit the gym to train for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 08:06 PM
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Are you sure it isn't how I shovel food into my face?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 07:11 PM
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Sure why not? It helps build trust and there would be a ton of possible benefits in case something happened to either of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 12:16 AM
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You say women only get to decide from men who approach them first. Wrong. They choose to only select from men who chase them and pursue them. There is nothing stopping them from pursuing men other than not wanting to be the pursuer because then they're the one having to advertise themselves as worth being with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 08:31 PM
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Yet women typically only select from men who chase them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 05:02 PM
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Ok that's good I was just wondering. It's a common experience men feel like their female partner wants them to be both sensitive to their partners feelings but strong stoic and silent when it comes to their own. I think some women want to be supportive but can't help but feel some primal revulsion that makes them feel like their man is weak when they encounter vulnerability in him. Personally I think actively choosing to be vulnerable as a man can be a choice of courage and strength in the inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 08:13 PM
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Perhaps. I wasn't trying to argue but honestly your description kinda sounded contrary to that. In my experience it seems like lots of women like the idea of emotionally supporting their man but in practice tend to just feel like he should be more stoic. Thanks for the clarification .
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:37 PM
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I'm going to tell you your experience of being invalidated is not real ok? You're not invalidated and it's not valid that you feel you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 01:39 AM
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I think it's something most men do but women struggle to do. There are a small percentage of men who are serial cheaters liars dishonest manipulators but the rest are pretty much loyal. There are however a large percentage of women who don't think of themselves as cheaters, they want to be loyal, but if they aren't happy in their relationship instead of considering it their responsibility to fix that, they are likely to look for things from other guys and might end up cheating. Even if it's not …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 01:37 AM
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So like, no emotional support desired on his end? I don't need mothering or a therapist but my idea of a partner includes some emotional support.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 01:21 AM
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Many professional ballerinas are actually like 140lbs of pure muscle. Not the prima ballerinas but still many.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:48 PM
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I've read lots of history books on what communism actually is. It's always totalitarianism, regardless of how wonderful it is when it's a fantasy in someone's head in real life it's always totalitarianism and usually mass murder. When the soviets tried to make their society moneyless they ended up just having to print more money in panic and I flation spiralled out of control and people starved. Again, fantasies are great but let's keep this to things that can actually exist not like the Christi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:11 PM
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I want a system where the people own the government. I don't give a shit about the owning the means of production if the government owns me. Is there a system where the workers own the means of production without the government owning the people?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 10:34 PM
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My point is still valid. The sensationalism of the bad side of human nature has an effect on people more than just the existence of that behavior. That was my whole point. Most men have been abused too FYI.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:14 PM
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No the issue I'm bringing up is with how a small portion of human behavior is constantly sensationalized by media and how that has an effect on people exposed to that. I'm not sure why that gets turned into what you're replying with. The issue I described is still real.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:00 PM
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Yea I'm sure constant sensationalism of all the worst parts of humanity by the media has no effect on anyone at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:58 PM
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I'd say that's kind of unfriendly but ok not judging .if that's what you feel you need.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:23 AM
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If your man is vulnerable, and you react with disgust, who is the weak one?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:25 PM
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Stats vary. There are plenty that show women as quite likely to be abusive partners or parents. Personally I've been abused by several women and I still get told to fear women makes me a misogynist right? People in general are dangerous. But go on being paranoid if you want. I absoulty do think the things I said are valid. men are still portrayed in the way I described and thats not just the way men are. its the way a very small portion of men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:24 PM
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Armor? Do you just mean being unfriendly?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:29 PM
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I think a lot of it is conditioning by movies and tv shows and the news. Men are portrayed as both having low chance of having anything to offer spiritually or emotionally, and also being dangerous and crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:27 PM
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It could just mean they don't take being committed to you as a priority, or take your commitment to them for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:00 AM
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Normal shouldnt be a thing we use to judge reasonable. Just looking around like well, is everyone else doing it, is it commonplace? Is not a reasonable way to judge a behavior. Just because a behavior is commonplace does not make it without harm or innocent. This is true in so many ways beyond just the topic at hand of clothes, but I'm sick of seeing, well, its common in society, used as a justification for all sorts of bullshit. Society can be headed in a bad direction. Seeing this does not mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 09:37 PM
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You don't have a rebuttal or ability to have a discussion. I don't value your opinion. All you have is feelings of not liking men. There is logic in what I've said. It's not an appeal to emotions. You're without substance, hostile for no reason, and about to be blocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 06:30 PM
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I don't need to do anything. I could, but for you, I don't think I will.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:29 PM
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This is like saying that if a woman knew a man flirted with women while he was single why would she expect him to stop flirting just because he decides to be in a committed monogamous relationship? It's not exactly like that, there are limits, but to some extent, it's pretty much just like that. However, as always, communication is key. These conversations can be had before commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 10:34 PM
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I would think that there are behaviors that would be fine if I were single and not so much if I were in a committed relationship. For women, I would think this would apply to dress. Less so for men, but absolutely for behaviors. There are limits to this for sure, but I don't think its an absolutely irrational perspective either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 10:03 PM
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Its impossible to answer what the average is for middle aged woman. First middle aged can mean a wide variety of ages, and second, within that age range, there are so many outliers. There are a lot of people who are out of shape miserable obese no more openness or curiosity or sense of wonder just dead souls waiting around for death to take them, and there are fit lively people who will rage against the dying of the light for several more decades. How can you average them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 09:55 PM
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Do they ever do a sport or go for an adventure? If no then my opinion is they're boring. And this coming from a guy who works out six hours a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:07 PM
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Men just don't connect in that way with each other as much. Even the relationships they do theyd rather not do it all the time. They'd prefer to connect that way with women. And women really seem like they'd rather their men be stoic and strong but silent types so the women can chat with their female friends and give all their love and support to their children. Not hating just saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:28 AM
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Using different lenses to gain understanding is ok, insisting on shoehorning the whole world into a single narrative or lens to fit your emotional need for it to be that way based on your baggage and issues is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:19 PM
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Strong agree. It's not teaching like you're having to train basic social skills, it's learning each other it's a profound part of bonding and becoming a whole together. Also.... Umm... How you doing? Kidding kidding but nah I totally agree. Choosing to engage in this process only with people who you think are spiritually pure and virtuous is part of what makes it special because doing so changes you as well. Learning the mechanics of producing orgasms for the opposite gender in general is far mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:59 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:02 PM
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Explain to me? I'm curious. I think it's high consciousness to limit your partners to those you truly respect and connect with
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:01 PM
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Why do you say that? It seems maybe you need to feel like that's the case. If you want to be a whore why not just charge money? Seems more honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:26 AM
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Yea whores have been around a long time. How exactly does this work better than just charging money?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 11:49 PM
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Women like sex,but there are some women these days who can't swallow their pride and therefore shame men who want sex. You can have hookups without swallowing your pride but definitely not a relationship Most men who bemoan their lack of sex dont really just want sex. They want connection love mutual respect and understanding. All things an escort or prostitute will not give.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 10:24 PM
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This had some justification when women weren't equal in the workforce. The pay gap is a myth and women have no problem supporting themselves any more. I mean no more than men in general do. This shit is outdated.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 09:55 PM
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THis is a bad take. its like saying a girl is controlling if she doesn't like her boyfriend flirting with other guys. ​ You're allowed as a man to not want to date women who dress in skimpy flirtatious clothes and flirt with other guys. thats a boundary and a standard. You're not allowed to actually exert control, but you're allowed to say you're not wililng to date someone who does this and will leave if they continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 12:04 AM
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I struggle to get relationships with girls I actually want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:25 PM
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Maybe sometimes but only with girls who are crazy and highly promiscuous with poor boundaries and sense of self.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:33 AM
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My thoughts process when I downloaded tinder was that it was time to spend some time swiping aimlessly to help break my attachment to my ex and help me remember there are more options out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:13 AM
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This bodies term is so dehumanizing. Like what are you talking about serial killers? No one has bodies unless they are a murdered with bodies of their victims. It's bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:02 AM
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By your own description is sounds like some things are female privilege but men also have other things that are their privilege. Shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 12:09 AM
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It has to do with mental health just as much as physical. I want someone with a zest for life and adventure, and that doesn't just mean gluttony and stuffing their face. Obesity strongly correlates to an inability to face challenges in life and lack of discipline. People who sit around being lazy and complaining they aren't happy while wasting their time and failing to do things that make people feel good like getting exercise and exploring nature etc. Many things in life will be looked at requi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 04:35 PM
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Yea but the thing is women's paranoia even in very safe situations surrounded by cameras is normilized. Raping women isn't normilized. I didn't say anything about having someone watch your drinks. That's not the topic at hand. The topic at hand is strictly limited to men staring in a safe place. Not wanting to be stared at is enough of a reason. Acting like you're in danger of getting raped absolutely everywhere even the grocery store actually hurts women it doesn't help them. You're not even re…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 03:24 PM
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I had a female roommate once that said I should be the man of the house which meant being the only one to pick up her dogs shit and do yard work.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 02:43 PM
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I'm calm. Why would you say otherwise? I think thats just a dismissive tactic on your part. I'm sorry for your trauma but my point is womens attitudes about this are often irrespective of their own actual safety. Not wanting to be stared at is fine, but I'm pretty sure rapes in the middle of grocery stores are incredibly rare. Women can just say its rude to stare, and not act like any man who glances at them is an actual danger to them. Stats don't support that. I do get that trauma responses ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:29 PM
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So you deliberately taking the highest end of the possible range and it's still significantly lower than the one in five stat. Keep being hateful and paranoid towards men if you want tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:23 PM
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Source? I just googled it and found 4 percent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:22 PM
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If I was driving around in a super fancy sports car I'd totally expect other guys to stare at it and not think I was going to get car jacked. I think it's rude to stare at people. That said I also think that can be enough of a reason and women's fear every man even I'm safe public spaces is going to rape them is unfounded paranoia.omoy a very small percentage of men have ever sexually assaulted anyone let alone violently.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:24 PM
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I imagine they'd need some attraction but relying on pure animal lust is low consciousness animalistic primitive basic bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:24 PM
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Ehhh plenty of men do think about those things. And plenty of women condition themselves with true crime murder porn to be paranoid far beyond any reasonable considerations for their safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:21 PM
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There could be some places they feel safe even if they aren't attracted to you and don't feel like it's immoral to approach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:19 PM
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Theres no dog whistle. Just your personal hangups. Women absolutely have hobbies that aren't mere consumerism. And those are the women I'm attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 03:30 PM
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Ok so keep arguing nothing got it. Do you have any actual point? Cus yea what you say is true but still 5 percent is absurdly low. It's absolutely not a stretch to say most marriages fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 02:57 AM
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Idk about a follower number but any girl who is too insta is a no go. They're just weird. Flirting with me in front of their bf who clearly is heartbroken, or even once approaching me and like pretending they want to be friends with me and go on a hike just to then clearly be disappointed when I said I didn't have an insta and they weren't going to get a new follower, but we could swap numbers instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 02:34 AM
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Ive always had friends in a large age spectrum. 20s and 30s when I was a teenager, and in my 20s and 30s, people from 20s to 50s and even 60s. Do I have literally everything in common with any of them? No. It's weirder to me to only have friends just like you. Age is one variable but I'd bet the people who are only friends with people their age also can only be friends with people with very similar political and religious beliefs etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 02:20 AM
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Five percent of marriages last fifty years. I haven't changed shit. Miserable marriages people are too scared to leave are failures. I chose my words carefully. Do you have anything regarding the actual topic at hand or my overall point that good looking people still have struggles dating and potentially have mental health issues, you'd like to discuss or just continue to argue about nothing ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 02:16 AM
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Yet you'll make yourself more absurd by debating alight differences in stats instead of the actual point. Its no changing of goalposts. Near half of marriages end in divorce. It's take a very small number of marriages the are dysfunctional and either stay together or end with the death of one person before divorce can occur to mean the majority of marriages aren't successful. Assuming that virtually all marriages that haven't dissolved are highly successful and happy is absurd and doesn't match …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 02:07 AM
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Why is it so generational then? Why are the youngest adult women the most jaded? How come the above poster who said she's been in feminist activism for twenty years feel like she's hardly met any of these women? And why does it correlate with what is commonly reported to be an extreme ideological change and polarization in education?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 01:27 AM
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I never said that. You don't need a majority. Just five percent of marriages that don't end in divorce, combined with the 41 percent of marriages that end in divorce to equal the majority of marriages. This style of debate you're doing is lame though. Don't address the basic point, just quibble about minor details of stats. Do you want to talk about the actual point and topic at hand or just quibble about minor details ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 01:24 AM
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Well if you factor in that not all marriages that fail end in divorce then it's still true. I chose my words carefully. Some failed marriages just end with an unhappily ever after.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 11:30 PM
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This is insane. The majority of marriages fail. Everyone has trouble dating these days. Even good looking rich people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 08:10 PM
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I think many just feel like men have nothing to offer them spiritually. Which is unfortunate and not true for all men, but accurate for many.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 08:08 PM
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I almost wonder if the examples online are bots. Sounds crazy like what's the motivation but there are those trying to divide us along any lines they can. That said I have met some of these women irl. They all seem to be younger than 25. I think college educations these days teach bizarre ideologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 05:46 PM
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I don't watch porn. I don't think 90 percent of men do or saying because a lot of men do it isn't a problem. Most mairrages fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 05:33 PM
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Yea like I said it's not split on gender lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:17 AM
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NO thats some in between the lines shit you invented.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 03:23 PM
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Today i learned you're someone who uses strawman arguments and hyperbole. You know I didn't say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:35 PM
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Toys are investments. You can sell them. Lifestyle costs can not be recouped. There is also a difference in buying things that allow you to do new experiences, vs spending money that creates an image. I'm not saying this is exactly split on gender lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 01:59 PM
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Ahem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 03:45 AM
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Hey hey, she replied several times.... ​ And said absolutely nothing. ​ Thinking does seem to be hard for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 03:45 AM
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Theres basically nothing that is unequivocally good or bad. Life is about nuance and duality and complexity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 02:02 AM
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Personally I'm not all that attracted to women until I get to know their personality, and when women use their feminine charms to try and elicit attraction from me, its a huge turn off. Instead of creating a physical biological reaction to their bodies, it instead creates a feeling in me like they must be highly promiscuous, incapable of actual connection, and view me as easily manipulated with the mere existence of their bodies. ​ This was less true when I was young and full of hormones, but st…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:19 PM
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I said nothing about you not replying fast enough. Just about you not actually addressing my points when you have replied.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:34 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:58 PM
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Ok can you answer any of my other questions? Like how ? Why not just empower women? Also your if isn't logically tied to your then. I don't see the connection. Just sounds like viewed misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:40 PM
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I don't really see that there's a logical link between your if and your then. If anything, based on your own words, the world would be a worse place. You don't really demonstrate any benefit but even just regarding your own description it sounds like men would be less happy. How would women be more generous and willing to have sex with men if men were disenfranchised? Also, how would you achieve this? By policies designed to adversely affect men? Like how is this outcome even a hypothetical poss…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:06 PM
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Tik tok is absolutely designed to make the fringe and rediclous seem normal. It's literally designed by the Chinese to destabilize western society. It's a whole different algorithm in China.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 01:15 PM
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I'm pretty sure good looks are secondary and managing to not come off as creepy or desparate is bigger. They feel like it's fine to meet a guy at the gym. But not to be approached at the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:12 AM
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Well you sound sane but you have to admit the many many women who spend a lot of time energy and money on purses and nails do so for status and not because men think it's attractive. Men don't care at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:10 AM
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All the women ive met have been through mutual friends co workers or on a hiking trail. Farmers markets are a social event? I ski mnt bike rock climb kayak play guitar write fly planes shoot guns and backpack. I've met women doing almost all of those things but I've never met women at some sort of social function.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:06 AM
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The ops post was about what to do when you're new to an area and don't have a group. Merge your group with another is again terrible advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:55 PM
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I wonder how much of this is about you behaving differently by feeling better about yourself and if this could be achieved without the appearance change?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:53 PM
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There's a lot of stuff like nails and purses men don't care about even the tiniest bit but other women do .
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:52 PM
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These same women will happily accept being cold approached by a guy who's both good looking enough and smooth enough to make them feel like it's not weird or forced.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:44 PM
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Any ideas about social venues that aren't just bars clubs concerts? Like separate from alcohol culture and fake glamour ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:42 PM
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Or for men who are attractive but actual want real connection. I've met several women in bars when I was young in ski towns who talked with me about how great skiing is and how much they love it. Got their number and they texted back to me invite to go skiing with like nah don't feel up to it but can we meet at the bar tonight? Turns out they never ski and just lied to sound cool. They're barflies who just want to get laid. Boring and gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:41 PM
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One way is highly age dependent the other two are somewhat age dependent and very much shut down conversation and actual connection. Looking for a wife in bars is a horrible idea. Women don't go to concerts to socialize with people they don't already know. These are also both just highly expensive consumerist activities. Terrible advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:37 PM
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There was an actual study that initially got these results, but the thing was, it wasn't designed to study this. It was actually designed to study trustworthiness of faces. this is why it had women rate men as either above or below average attractiveness, not like do you find this man attractive personally, but just above or below average. I can't remember the other details, but it was absolutely unexpected and serendipitous to find women rated 80% of men as below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:32 PM
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So what's your overall point? People who's kids love them never hear from their kids in old age? Like you keep having quibbling little disagreements without addressing my actual point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 12:07 AM
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Yea I already said nursing home residents aren't a good sample. People with loved ones don't end up I nursing homes. Besides, what's your overall point? Instead of saying things with no source without actually addressing my overall point, why not go ahead and make a point?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:41 PM
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One you provide no data. Two people who have kids who love them don't wind up in retirement homes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:13 PM
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So instead of having sex with men who respect you you make it a transaction for goods and services? How exactly does this work well besides getting said goods and services?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 10:26 PM
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Well I don't think someone is going to be 100 percent submissive but in terms of division of labor it could be rhe man's duty to decide many things while the woman's duty is to decide many other things such as how to best nurture thier children and dietary choices for the children while the man decides where rhey live where they send the kids to school etc etc. Even within those things it might be more complex with each partner getting to voice concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 05:36 PM
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Most? Any data to back this up?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 01:28 PM
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I don't think lowering my standards solves the problem. Im highly intelligent highly emotionally intelligent a lot of passions and hobbies in great shape not broke and at least decent looking. Every time I've tried to lower my standards it's just made things harder not easier. Less attraction less connection and more red flags. Truth is I'm a fucking catch. My exes all think so. But im.not just model gorgeous enough to stand out as such and not many women are interested in getting to know guys e…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 02:32 AM
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Yea I wouldn't even say most men are interested in casual sex. I'd even say I think many people engaging in casual sex are settling for a hookup in preference to celibacy when they'd prefer a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 07:02 PM
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For the men who this is the case for they only want the sex because they want the temporary validation and sense of being wanted that comes with it. It's not actually sex they really want. This is more like trauma bonding and dysfunctional attachment than it is actuallt just valuing sex enough to stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 05:00 PM
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I'm a man and casual sex does not seem interesting or appealing to me at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:57 PM
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There's a lot of research showing the happiest elderly people are those withloving kids and grandkids.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 04:55 PM
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The men that don't beleive you are just weeding themselves out. ​ Real relationships are built on trust. Someone who feels like you're an authentic person who wouldn't lie to them wouldn't be X3ing your given n count. ​ But yes there are benefits to a low n count. Lower chance of stds, abuse, murder by partner, self harm, etc etc etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:39 PM
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You're exactly right no one holds single digits body fat year round and is healthy except maybe marathon runners. That's my point But action movie stars that drink 16 cups of coffee a day to cut weight right before filming are described as having dad bods like a month later precisely because that physique is impossible to maintain. My point was evident if you took the time to read and think before just smashing your keyboard like a caveman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 06:09 PM
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If theyrebig they aren't as low body fat as Stallone. They're Either one or the other. Tyson was big but not single digit body fat. Pac man was super Lean but not huge.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 03:28 PM
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Big muscular gym bro isn't ideal fitness for basically anything. Women's idea of male fitness has been distorted by movies and TV shows. Actual athletes don't look like that. Stallone had to drink 16 cups of coffee a day to cut weight before the rocky movies. That's far from healthy. That look basically requires just training for looks. If you train for endurance speed agility etc you won't look like that. All champion boxers have more body fat than that unless they're at lower Weightt classes i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 02:32 PM
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Yea its fine, I'm happy to discuss things and am in no way put off by in depth replies. Some of mine were long as well. It seems though you don't really believe in nature in general rather just nurture though so there's not much arguing that. I will say I don't think this belief is very backed up by science or reality,but rather based on justwhat people want to beleive the world is like. We do have nature. It's not all nurture and societal conditioning. I don't think I'll convince you by debate …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/23 02:48 PM
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OK I get this is your opinion. Do you have these statistics? You mentioned the word statistically specifially, do you have those stats to back that up? ​ Cus from what I've seen you've just taken the stat that most divorces are initiated by women and mental gymnasticsed it into being that women are actually more committed and loyal, which actually kind of proves my overall point that women are unwilling to self reflect critically fairly nicely, thank you. ​ Although yes you are right that legall…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 12:46 AM
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Fuck this Is sad but true, mostly for very low consciousness reasons but still true. Some women are high consciousness enough to rise.above this but you still might wake up one day after 30 years to find they no longer are and have just decided the spark is gone so they're leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 07:03 PM
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Ok. I get you think there are no female equivalents to the male primal drives we need to overcome. Well back to my original post. I'd like a woman who doesn't think that. I find that attitude ridiculous and it was the whole point of my original post. I honestly find this attitude to be part of the problem I am describing. The absolute unwillingness to think perhaps there are parts of one's own nature one needs to overcome is itself a problem. I'm unmotivated to spend much more energy criticizing…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 06:35 PM
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Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 11:31 PM
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Another example is women's tendency to be highly selective. Just like men's agression tjis is a double edged sword. theres a positive and negative aspect. In many ways its good and healthy to be selective, but at the same time as a man if you go around respectfully making eyea contact with men and women alike, not leering sexually at anyone, some women will sneer at you basically with disgust. It doesn't seem to occur to them this disgust response is the negative manifestation of their natural t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 06:35 PM
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Ok well my apologies for the bad faith and midwit remarks. Those were an assumption on my part but often when someonr asks a question like that it's in hopes youll say somethjbg that can be attacked while simultaneously being too intellectually cowardly to say anything themselves. But ok you want a discussion let's talk. Well some of this might be societal but there has been a message to males for thousands of years, basically as soon as there was warfare that agression and competetiveness can b…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 06:27 PM
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Ok. I could say some things but I might do so clumsily. Some of the things i might mentiom might be kore societal than nature and it's hard to tell the difference between those when looking at other. I can feel.the difference internally.for myself. If you really want me to im willing but first let me ask you, has it ever occurred to you any of your primal drives are obsolete or don't serve you or your partners in the modern era and are things you should use your higher consciousness to rise abov…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:32 PM
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Not really the point. It's not up to me to do this for a woman let alone all women. They should be doing It Themselves. And i think your question is a bad faith attempt to trap me into doing so. I could make examples from women I've known but you're putting me in a position where in order to answer I'd have tp generalize those to all women and that'd a non starter. I do know I as a man routinely find things in my nature itsmy responsibility to rise above Do you have any rebuttal or contribution …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:19 PM
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You hold women to an incredibly high standard and don't seem to apply the same to men . All You points are basically hyperbole, they're examples taken to the extreme with deliberately the opposite of nuance and beneath it there is a current of resentment. I think you just don't have empathy for women in general not just single mothers. Most single mothers do not have kids fathered by felons. that example is ridiculous. That is a statistical outlier you misrepresent as being typical. It's far fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 04:15 PM
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You've got some points but they're basically stereotyped you've made. Men lie and say theyll stay. Society in general normalizes sexual relationships with no goal of leading to marriage, even at a young age, and these can lead to pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:28 PM
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I feel like men are expected and expect themselves to rise above their nature, and that is all I really want from a woman, one who can entertain the idea that there are parts of her nature she needs to rise above, but really this does not seem like something many are willing or able to do. Like she doesn't have to be perfect by any means just realize it. There are of course many who realize their childhood trauma and emotional issues are things they need to rise above, but not their nature the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/23 03:52 AM
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Women can be terrifying. They can lie, threaten, abuse, gaslight etc etc etc. They can threaten and perpetrate violence and all many of manipulation including shaming and convincing you no one will believe you because they're just a poor girl. They can threaten to tell the cops you've raped them abused them and done all sorts of shit you're completly innocent of and be very convincing that they have the armor of being more likely to be believed than you by default. I don't know if thats creepy b…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 08:40 PM
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Well your whole post was about how porn use is valid because men need to jerk off. your whole point was conflating porn use with masturbation. Now you say they aren't synonymous but dont reconsider how that affects your basic premise even though it comeptly changes it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 07:12 PM
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You don't need porn to jerk off. if you think you do you have a porn addiction. Disputing no fap Is not the same as needing porn. It's sO obvious yet you're just clueless to it. Porn absolutly short circuits your work to reward and long term to short term circuits in ways occasionally just relieving yourself does not. There's tons of research on this
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:51 PM
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I answered the actual question. Youre just playing games. Some Andrew tate fan boy isn't going to wait till marriage. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:40 PM
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You said this was a discussion question not some weird father daughter role play thing. You get called put for being willfully obtuse and just double down on it. Is this a troll? Just based on your interactions here I'd say tjis hypothetical daughter is like 12 so no she absolutlynot be dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 11:42 AM
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Then they should get married. If there are problems preventing that then the relationship isn't working and if those problems can't be fixed they should move on. Isn't it obvious? Although let's be honest a girl who says she's waiting till marriage these days will probably weed out any guys who aren't serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:29 AM
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Everyone knows what the term wait till marriage means but thanks for being willfully obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 03:17 AM
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I'd advise her to wait till marriage. Seriously. She might not listen but I'd be that influence in her life because every other influence in society will tell her the opposite..
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/23 02:38 AM
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You sound pretty jaded just based on the few posts of yours I've read in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:31 PM
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I was replying to a post describing all male desire for low n count partners as insecurity. What's your point exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 07:29 PM
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Jadedness is not an attractive quality. Wisdom is, but gaining wisdom without becoming jaded takes a strength of character few are capable of.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:38 PM
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Being a man who is deliberately low n count doesn't make you a man baby. Sex is special. I want a low n count woman who still feels sex is special. Choosing a teenager to solve that isn't a good solution, but wanting someone low n count isn't by default a sign of some insecurity or shortcoming. Sex is sacred and by definition the higher someone's n count the less.sacred and less special they think it is and the less special it will be to share it with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:35 PM
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Couldn't it be real? Couldn't he actually think she is special? Age gaps are really not uncommon even in prior generations and marriages that lasted for decades or for life. Like ten years isn't that uncommon for cute old couples celebrating their 50 year anniversary. Granted a 10 year age gap with the younger partner being 22 is way different than 18. 20 year plus age gaps are kinda weird however you look at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/23 04:30 PM
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Many people need a bit of recovery period after getting fired before they can apply to a new job. At the very least time to update your resume and get your head in the game for doing interviews.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 06:49 PM
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Getting fired and temporarily jobless is not a choice. BeIng temporarily sick is not a choice. Being Chronically jobless and unwilling to pursue a.career is a choice in the same way chronically choosing to not look after one's health is. And honestly if we're talking about having kids with someone, selecting someone who is resistsnt to disease id debatable morally right in regards to your responsibility to your children. Not sure I agree with ops premise just saying..
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 12:03 AM
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Ok you back to semantics of debating what words mean what things. Beleive whatever you want. Someone who spends their days playing video games has less going on than someone who spends their days flying planes. No cultivating an image is not like have of professionalism whatever that means. Part of being professional is being able to dress the part but that's far different than spending your entire day fixating on your image thinking it's an identity. You better have other skills. You're basical…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 04:10 PM
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Subjective doesn't mean fake. Andnyea typically they do have less going on have less sense of self and are more vain and narcissistic. That's not to say someone smart and complex cant also like concerts and clubbing, but yea if all you spend your whole life doing is entertainment and consumerism and cultivating an image, you absolutly have less going on than people who spend thier lives learning creating developing skills and pushing themselves out of their comfort zones etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 03:27 PM
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How is the premise fake? Like you said I get to have whatever opiniond i want and if potential partners seem like boring people to me that seems like a better selection criteria than many. What's fake about that? People who's hobbies are consumerism and entertaiment don't typically have much to offer as people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 03:11 PM
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So what's your point other than pedantically arguing what words mean what things? The real topic of this thread isn't about hobby vs activity but rather about people who have no interesting hobbies that aren't just consumerism or entertainment. Those people have a less developed sense.of self.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:47 PM
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This is just semantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 02:19 PM
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Yea this is basically just semantics. Arguing what words mean what things. It doesn't really have anything to do with the topic at hand. You know this hence the I'm sorry but.... I can find other definitions that are more nuanced than yours. By your definition masturbation and drinking are hobbies. I think that's a real stretch. Regardless of what we call them my points are still valid. If someone only has hobbies that are passive entertainment and image based they are less interesting less able…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 02:18 PM
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Yea this is basically just semantics. Arguing what words mean what things. It doesn't really have anything to do with the topic at hand. You know this hence the I'm sorry but.... Regardless of what we call them my points are still valid. If someone only has hobbies that are passive entertainment and image based they are less interesting less able to handle adversity and have a less defined sense of self
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 02:16 PM
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Ok yea. You're describing socialization for the concert and that's fine but it's not a hobby. You're describing self care for the makeup and nails and stuff. Maybe that's some amount of self expression and maybe is a hobby I guess. Hobbies aren't about leisure though and it's not about elitism to say socialization isn't a hobby. It's just not everything we do for enjoyment is a hobby. Hobbies are about fulfillment and realization of potential and living ones life to the fullest more than just le…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 02:01 AM
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What are you doing going to a concert? Is the act of going there the hobby? Catching the uber? You're just watching taking in what someone else has created. Same with shopping. You might be choosing what to buy or not buy but you're just choosing from things someone else has created. To me though this is all about substituting an image for an identity. People think their superficial image is an identity. Its not. Reading is fundamentally different for your brain than just sitting watching someth…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 12:26 AM
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Similar seems great. identical seems like a bad expectation, but similar seems absolutly necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 11:32 PM
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OK yea fair enough. It does require some time investment, but it doesn't have to require being someone who vainly wants to look fit. It can absolutely be someone who is just passionate about partaking in sports.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 11:28 PM
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Ehhh. I think I pretty well described a difference. A.pastime is something you do to pass the time a hobby is something you're passionate about doing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:07 PM
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Well.of course but people don't do these sports just to stay fit and look good for others. They do them because they are passionate about doing them and have a sense of adventure and desire to challenge themselves. Very different psychology to an insecure vain gymrat. Also this is a thread about hobbies and whether women have them vs just try to look good so the difference is central to the discussion, whereas your point that they require effort isn't really relevant in my opinion .
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 10:06 PM
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Ehh. Birdwatching isn't really just passive. You have have read and proactively learn about birds to Id them and most people keep some sort of track of what they've seen and when. It's absolutly a hobby if you Include photographing or sketching the birds. I don't think watching movies counts as a hobby. I'd say learning about filmmaking and filmmakers and the history of the craft might count, but really I'd say it really.becomes a hobby when you start trying to make.or at least write amateur fil…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 09:09 PM
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I didn't even read your post. There is so much irony in the title alone. Calling out men for making a generalization about all women but literally making a generalization that this is an attitude men have as a whole and implying all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 08:40 PM
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I didn't even read your post. There is so much irony in the title alone. Calling out men for making a generalization about all women but literally making a generalization that this is an attitude men have as a whole and implying all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 08:40 PM
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But you don't have to spend all day in the gym. There are lots of girls who are passionate about doing things like rock climbing and mountain biking that keep them fit and aren't just for looks. Gyms are so boring. I'm in one now .
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 07:27 PM
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Idk. I've known really hot women who spend 30 hours a week skiing mnt biking rock climbing etc and maybe 10 hours a week on hair makeup clothes etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 07:25 PM
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I don't think you have to tinker for it to be a hobby but I'd also say passively experiencing things isn't a hobby either. You do BMX. You don't just watch it. Shopping for it isn't the hobby it's an activity ancillary to the actual hobby. Playing music is a hobby. Watching is a pasttime regardless. Even if you don't tune your own piano playing one is still a hobby. I'd say the one exception to this is sex thsts not a hobby regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 07:23 PM
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Because I'd have nothing in common with someone who isn't active, because there's huge links between level of physical activity and mental and physical health and lifespan and health span. People who don't have some desire to get off their asses and adventure are boring and often boring intellectually and spiritually as well. Aren't you curious what lies beyond where the pavement ends? Also people who aren't willing to work out to keep their bodies working well and stay in good health just don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 01:56 PM
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So again, an emotional and misanthropic statement that is in no way anylotical or supported with data or logic or reason. How do you suggest we be proactive and do this supposed smart thing exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 09:55 PM
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You are not proving that we are either overpopulated or that there won't be famine and economic collapse by having sharply declining birth rates. You're speaking emotionally. Not analytically. And those emotions are misanthropic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 07:43 PM
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So what will lead to fewer mouths to feed? Cus either it'd a very slow decrease in birth rates, a global catastrophe, or widespread economic collapse that will lead to famine and mass starvation. Your example features a mass mortality pandemic. You're Not Sayjng things that are thought out or supported with logic, just expressing emotional statements rooted is misanthropy..
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 02:13 AM
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I know you are but what am i? Seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 12:52 AM
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Cheerleading mass famine... how misanthropic. You may dislike capitalism but anarchy is jot better and millions will starve and be murdered. this is less an intellectual premise for you and more an expression of hatred for humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 12:51 AM
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Isn't what you do an expression of your personality? Like ability to.connect share emotions and support emotionally is far more personal than ability to.pay the bills and provide a high quality of material life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 02:33 PM
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High consciencness. Everything else stems from that i want a woman who is capable of thinking that her emotions and attitudes stem from primal drives.of.various sorts and she and I would be better served if she uses her higher brain to rise above some of them. Not someone who is pretentiously spiritual but just someone who can self reflect and think huh maybe the slight revulsion I feel at my man crying for example is actually a weakness in me that is driven by a primal drive to find a strong ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 01:56 PM
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If ai and robots take up that slack were just looking at tyranny and totalitarian control. I do agree slcioeconomic trends can reverse but the biological aspect of plummeting fertility is very alarming.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 05:30 AM
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Sperm counts have been dropping by one percent a year for 50 years. I'm glad you feel emotionally that that isn't a possibility. I know we're conditioned to fear overpopulation and not plummeting sperm counts and female fertility. People can fucl but if they can't get pregnant there won't be babies. I'm sure it won't drop to.zero but it doesn't need to fall to zero. Yes the same chemicals that affect fertility negatively do make puberty onset sooner. That is actually tied to lower fertility and …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:48 AM
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Fertility rates are plummeting. You may have been conditioned to think population is a problem but it's predicted to peak in our lifetimds and most likely never again come near that peak again. If it was just socioeconomic factors driving this that would be one thing but add in a plummeting fertility rate and we're heading towards a population collapse, which will create very real economic collapse as well when there aren't enough young to drive the economy to feed the old. This isn't just like …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 04:07 AM
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Im not the op who made that statement. Im a different person engaging in nuanced discussion about the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 08:22 PM
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It's fine. Enjoy your preferences and delusions. I know you don't know how to articulate this in a way thatnis at all compelling. That much is clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 07:58 PM
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So youre unable to articulate an actual rebuttal? The pinnacle of good genetics you are not. Perhaps stupid people just select based on looks. Lol. I looked up wolf's law. It's about loading on a speciric bone creating thst bone to be denser. So youre selecting for a guy who's a real stronf chewer? that's the pinnacle if gennetic perfection to you is chewing ability?? Seems like tye guy who figured out how to cook and cut food was better suited to survival. Enjoy your preferencws if you want but…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 07:48 PM
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Yes. And turned down many more. Have you ever articulated an actual point?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 07:46 PM
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Im.not going to go do research to convicne myself youre right if you cant even articulate anything about why. Make your own point and if it's presented well enoufh perhaps ill be motivated to follow up and learn more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 07:45 PM
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I think these days it's far more about men who are perceived high social status. And also youre wrong about the ko thing. Sure guys with visibly very weak Jaws typically can't take punches great but there are tons of fighters thst have strong looking Jaws but in reality are known to have glass jaws. Many of the best figjters arent handsome both in mma and throughout history. Even purely just for combat and mma intelligence is a better predictor of.succes rha. The ability to take a punch. Youve g…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 06:52 PM
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Lol. Big strong Jaws are less of an indicator of anything than intelligence. There might be an instinctual perception of certain traits.as being superior genetically but those perceptions are often erroneous or just irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 06:45 PM
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You've really not convinced me. Why even both replying if this is all youve got? Ironically you also demonsttate a lack of ability to connect with this reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 06:44 PM
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From what I've seen women often engage in casual sex in the hopes the man will then feel attached and want something more, byt rarely set up thw requirement for commitment before hand because they do actually want the sex and dont want to feel lile theyre having to be a pursuer by asking for commitment. Having swx then being mad at the lack of commitment later frees them of responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 06:39 PM
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Well if it's only one night by definiton that cpnnection is minimal and fleeting. If it's such a great connection why only have one night why not pursue commitment?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 06:35 PM
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I don't think it's about hypergamy or good genetics. Its.not like hookup type women are searching out smart men. its pure surface level vanity and appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 06:34 PM
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Conversly I'm a man who has no interest in anything but an actual relationship. Hookups are boring awkward low consciousness tiring mentally and tedious
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 06:31 PM
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You said people shouldn't procreate to save the planet even though fertility rates are plummeting and there might be an irreversible population crash very soon. That's about as misanthropic as it gets. Ypu also whine about having kids knowing they're going to suffer as if thats all life is. And youve got excuses but no gratitude. Construction hardly counts as damgerous fyi . Cynicism and realism are two dofferent things too. you Cant be both, by definition. Call yourself whatever you want your a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 06:23 PM
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I don't know but they don't do them. Why don't you tell Me? Although honestly with how you've described yourself as Misanthropic nihilistic cynical and hateful in our other interaction I'm not really expecting much from you other than just hating men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 02:30 PM
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No ones goes through life without suffering. Nor should they. Many positive emotions are the result of overcoming struggles. It's not parenting you have a problem with but the fundamental nature of reality. Also nieve means snow. You mean naive I'm far from naive. Naive means too ignorant and foolish to know the nature of reality. That is different than knowing it and having faith that you can prepare yourself and your children to meet adversity. That's called strength. Having children is not pu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 02:15 PM
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Nursing isn't really a great example because there's a very high burnout rate. I'm not even talking sanitation though not gross jobs, more like dangerous jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 02:11 PM
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Huh? Did you actually answer anything? I couldn't tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 02:09 PM
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Ohok. So the problem isn't having kids but having them too young and unplanned in relationships that aren't ready for them as well as cynical nihilistic misanthropes having kids. You state that pretty clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 02:04 PM
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Are these social expectations or simply necessities financially? Cus honestly if I could afford to have a wife who was a stay at home mom I'd be fine with that. I don't think that if it is a social pressure it comes from men. Maybe from women. Save the planet stop procreation is honest at least but it's misanthropic cynical self loathing nihilism. But yea that is a common reason people don't want to have kids. I'd debate the benefits are more than so little, but really you'd have to not be so cy…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 01:44 PM
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Yea women don't value it,.even seem to resent the notion they should. Men don't either. Fertility rates are plummeting as well. Like it'd be one thing if birth rates were just dropping off because of socioeconomic factors as is well understood but when combined with plummeting fertility rates were really looking at an existential threat to all humanity within the next couple generations. Perhaps my lifetime. And people still don't value parenthood even in the face of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:28 AM
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I guess it depends how you're saying it. With reverence for the miracle of reproduction and motherly love? Or scoffing at the insignificance of other possible accomplishments? Really very few men do anything truly of consequence in terms of innovation or creativity that impacts society as a whole. But a great many men contribute to society and carry a small share of the load on their backs .literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:26 AM
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He put it a bit clumsy and simplified but there are many vital jobs women just don't do whether it be can't or won't. Dangerous jobs especially. Overall women want no part of danger in the workplace .
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 03:17 AM
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Kinda going to play devils advocate, but what does this say about the value of women who don't want kids? If they also have a job that doesn't really make the world a better place? I don't think many men don't value mothers role in reproduction. I do think many men don't relate that to women as a whole and I also think a lot of women are kind of delusional to how much or society relies on men and jobs women cannot or will not do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 03:16 AM
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That might be one reason. Or women viewing fathers and husband's as optional might be another.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 03:54 PM
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Is it just impossible a partnership could benefit both partners with emotional support meaning purpose etc? Like even the very best man has nothing to offer a woman spiritually emotionally mentally etc? Also, if this is a discussion or debate sub, how am i as a man infiltrating YOUR comments section? How are they yours specifically how am I infiltrating and why make the post if you dont want discussion? Honestly sounds more like you just use your misandry as a justification for its own existence…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 03:50 PM
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They're attracted to the kind of sensitivity that makes rhem think you'll be a good loving caring father and husband but not the kind thst makes them think you'll need things emotionally because that makes them feel like you're weak. I think some smart ones with good role models in their childhoods can see these two things don't go together and understand they need to accept the latter if they want the former but many perhaps most aren't even aware of this contradiction, they just feel distaste …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 04:49 AM
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So I think aome women will neg a man to break him down and control him, and this is a symptom of mental problems, but I think many more seem to have an expectation that they want a man who is inhumanly strong and stoic and want to constantly test his ability to handle negging, they don't actually want to break him, but if they do they just think he's weak and should be stronger. I think there are some women who don't do either. I haven't found one personally but I think I've seen relationships w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 01:34 PM
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Boomers were the free love generation tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 01:14 PM
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Some above average men just don't like pursuing. I find it low conaciousness and tiring and boring personally In some ways im not the greatest catch but hot women do let me know they are attracted to me. I walked in on the last one fucking her cousin though and after that especially feel no motivation to pursue anyone just to find out they're crazy. She was my neighbor and my other neighbors all told me how jealous they were. even old ladies I knew said how gprgepus and glamorous and cool and ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:08 AM
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I have absolutly no problem committing,.not just agreeing to commit but actually being commited in my mind heart and spirit and shutting the doors in my mind that even lead to being attracted to someone else. To thinking how do we grow together and not just how do I grow. But I won't do it for a woman who needs me to commit in order to stop fucking other guys. If you want to be committed commit first at least in your mind and behavior if not tye agreement to be commited and I'm so with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 09:03 PM
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Sadly yes. People these days sometimes have fucked dozens without ever having romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 04:42 AM
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Because it gives meaning to life, because you don't just want kids but kids who are like ypu, both so you can relate to them but also just because you know your own strengths weaknesses etc, because the choices you make throughout your life affect your DNA, like so many choices thenfood you eat how much you work out use your brain etc etc and you want offspring that are an effect of your choices not just some random strangers. Honestly your take seems so dismissive as to be incredibly arrogant. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 12:11 AM
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Yea I wasn't really answering obviously its just a bit of light heartedness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:39 AM
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No totally not. I'm not gay so even if one of my bros wanted to pay half the bills I'd stilk be into women. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 04:23 AM
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There's also this thing thst if you're interested in a meaningful healthy authentic long term relationship you'll underrepresent yourself financially and in other ways so you don't have to worry thst that's all she likes you for..... and possibly wind up forever alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 01:27 AM
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Lol this is in no way a simple anything as you call it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:34 PM
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I've experienced various kinds of misandry but one I find most interesting is women who complain about men not having emotional depth andnjust being what they called fuck boys, but at the same time, seemingly being disappointed that I was someone in search of authentic connection and not just someone who went around seducing women. This overlaps with symptoms of mentally illness to some extent, but it alsonjust seems like a choice to free then of responsibility for the situation. And thier choic…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 03:29 PM
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How are endurance athletes malnourished? Wouldn't they have trouble doing endurance races if they were? Any source for this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 02:32 PM
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No but I've known many very fit healthy women who were underweight or almost underweight strictly according to their bmi.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 03:22 AM
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I was on the exercise bike actually. Pretty on topic
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 10:29 PM
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Even people who aren't overweight in the west are often lacking muscle mass and ton. There are skinny fat people. bmi is a clumsy meAsure of health and fitness. Personally I'm attracted to a woman who is capable of doing badass stuff like climbing mnt biking etc. Muscle tone is hawt. I don't find fat appealing but inalsp asspcoate it with laziness and a habitual choice fpr.comfprt and luxury over adventure.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:40 PM
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Bmi is an incredibly clumsy measure of health.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:36 PM
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This is fucking crazy. I want a woman who can hike ski kayak backpack and mnt bike with me, and also share cooking and eating with me and someone who I don't have to stress and worry about making healthy choices. My ex had an eating disorder. I was more attractEd to her when she was fit and not malnourished. .
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:35 PM
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Men's fears are dismissed. Men's difficulties are. Fears makes it more narrow and specific. I said difficulties. Even your narrowing it down to an issue of only fears is dismissive to men's difficulties that are other than fears.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:31 PM
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What's the difference between internalized pressure and just having insecurities you need to work on? Seems like one is your responsibility and the other you get to blame others for. Men have insecurities they just have to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:55 PM
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Yea I don't take such things personally. We all have trauma, plus women get conditioned by news and crime shows that men are scary. I just wish some more would remember these things as many seem to speak about it like well im.scared which must not be because my.trauma or conditioning but because men are dangerous and scary and it just gets so old. the vast majority of men are never going to physically harm a woman. I feel like rhetoric to the contrary is often more resentment than fearbut its so…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:31 PM
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O and.k are right next to each other on a keyboard. Typos not a thing youve heard of? who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:04 PM
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The chances are fairly low any man is actually a danger tk you. Unless by danger you mean you might have tk deal with some emotions or akwardness. The idea that a majority of men are going tk be violent tk you If you're alone with them is absolutly absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:50 PM
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Fair enough. I'd rather it be a diacussion sub i guess. Even within that tho I think debating because its interesting is a lot different than debating because it's funny or entertaining. The former being far more in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:18 AM
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I think this perspective is great and I'm glad you're here to share your perspective. On this specifically, our perspectives are identical but in gemeral i'm glad you're here to share perspectives that differ from mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 01:51 AM
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I think the mods are all women and lean more pro women pro feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 01:49 AM
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I thought this was a discussion sub, not a debate sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 01:48 AM
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You should get athlete level fit though. It's a sin and tragic loss to go your whole life without experiencing the true glory of what your body is capable of. Not for rhe accolades validation or appearance or attrativeness to anyone, byt to simply do badass sports and adventures and revel in it. As to the rest of it, we'll there's some truth to be had in rhe manosphere red pill stuff but anyone who labels rhemselves as that and especially sells it to others id choosing to view the world through …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 10:26 PM
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Well avoid predators then. You're acting like simply spending time with men will tempt them into becoming predators. This is irrational and speaks more of a.resentment than fear. It does give me some insight into the justifications for irrarional fear women have though so thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 10:22 PM
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And that is a tiny fraction of all men. For the vast majority of men there is no temptation to assault anyonre.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 09:42 PM
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Thst statement is absolutly not false. Only a very small percentage of men ever assault anyone sexually and for the vast majority of men, spending more time around someone doesn't tempt them into doing so. The second statemjt was facetious.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 08:26 PM
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It's not untrue but its not accurate view of reality. It's not the conplete truth or an accurate portrayal of reality. So ues,, it's a distorted reality. Not a complete fiction but a distorted reality. Or no? Your response is dismissively unsubstative and breif.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 07:40 PM
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Cus it's not just knowing facts. It's constant exposure to thenviolence and horrible parts of society in a way that makes it feel much more common than they are so that statistically rare events seem absolutly commonplace even though they're spread out across a population of hundreds of millions or billions, and thst constant exposure to fear and outrage has a very distorting effect on our dopamine epinephrine adrenaline etc.. My definition of reality isn't just what I've experienced but all of …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 06:16 PM
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Yea it never covers child abuse of male children. You're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 06:13 PM
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Sure go for it. But only a tiny fraction of men ever perpetrate violence towards women. Violence is a hallmark of the drug and gang trade. Honestly I feel like this Is more an expression of resentment than fear. But you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 06:12 PM
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Well I didn't get much cus you comment was dismissively breif. So what you're saying is being scared of strangers isn't entirely rational?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 06:10 PM
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Define often. Many statistically extremely rare events happen often if one considered their occurrence in the entire global human population. The truth is only a tiny fraction of men will ever perpetrate a rape or sexual assault .
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 06:00 PM
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They're not likely to attack. It's statistically incresibly rare. More rare than lightning striking people. But most homicides Including most things classified as mass shootings are drug or gang related so avoiding those people activities and areas will serve you pretty well. Perfect Example of how the media distorts perception of reality thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:56 PM
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You didn't even ask a question. Younexpressed a not understanding judgement and lack of respect men's right to discuss things here. Do you have bpd?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:25 PM
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Go to two chromosomes if you want a women only echo chamber. This is a discussion sub for both genders. Any reason you give is speculation too. You're not self aware perfectly and you don't know rhe minds of every other woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:03 PM
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No you're literally describing it showing a distorted reality and not actual reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 05:01 PM
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Read the post. There's nothing indicating only women should reply or directing it at women specifically. This is a discussion sub. The idea women are also overly conditioned by media is complelty valid. Your only response is I'm not allowed to express anything about it because I'm a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:32 PM
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So youre saying women's exposure to violent media conditions them to fear beyond what would be normal based simply on their experiences?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:19 PM
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Men aren't more likely to assault someone the longer they're around them. It's not some temptation we have to constantly fight against and eventually succumb to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:17 PM
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Exactly. Some amount of fear is from past trauma but exposure to media conditions a certain amount of fear that is paranoid and irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 04:15 PM
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Honestly it doesn't seem like the fear of rape or murder either. It exists in situations where those are ridiculously far fetched. Sometimes they seem afraid.to be mistaken for someone friendly even. Honestly I think some of this is a natural primal fear but much of it is just from being exposed to the media presenting men as scary and modern young women are basically conditioned to fear men even when there's nothing to fear and the situation is compleltly public and safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 12:30 PM
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Stoicism is a great philosophy but one shouldn't live by one philosophy alone. They are complimentary to each other. It has its place but it's hardly like a template to live by in and of itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 02:09 AM
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There is a difference between wanting male attention.from lots of guys, and wanting to be desired and attractive to the guys you want attention from but neither of these are just for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 01:14 AM
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is this one word supposed to be the articulation of a point of some sort? Am I supposed.to.fill in the blanks and make your argument for you? Do you not beleive in or understand evolutionary selection? People wanting kids isn't dome sort of delusion. It's a natural drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 05:59 AM
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Yea I just described how it's expression as a fetish is a distorted version of its healthy expression because people fepress.just actually wanting to be a parent for.various reasons or misinterpret it. You're aware women do this too right? Think they don't want kids because fuck the patriarchy then only feel it as a kink.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 05:57 AM
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This is literally just evolutionary biology. Its safer to have kids with woman younger than 35. Just like women are evolved to like strong stoic guys who can protect them even though those criteria don't always lead to the best healthiest relationships these days. That doesn't mean it's just some alpha male delusion though. It's literally how we evolved.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 05:53 AM
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Viewing wanting to have kids as some sort of kink is bizarre. Like oh I have a breeding fetish. No you have a natural desire to have kids that you repress and only expresses itself as some sort of kink because you've turned into something almost taboo in your brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 05:48 AM
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And even so most men who date younger want nothing to do with an 18 year old. If you're over 35 18 feels lile a child. 23 maybe if she's super smart but 18 hell no. She'd have nothing to talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 10:30 PM
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And most high value men have no interest in 18 year olds. Maybe younger than themselves but not 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 09:48 PM
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Because shame is a weapon of toxic femininity. Gossip shame social scorn and punishment are toxic expressions of femininity. And feminists don't think there is such a thing as toxic femininity. they engage in it without self awareness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:59 AM
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Women view emotional men as weak, but a strong man can be emotional, however women will not entertain the idea that they need to rise above their primal feelings that emotional men are weak and instead use their higher consciousness to overcome that perception and see there can be strength in emotion for men. Men Are fully expected to overcome their baser primal urges and agression, but if women feel something they just assume it's true and will not consider they Have any primal instincts that n…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:56 AM
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I walked in on the last girl I was seeing fucking her blood related cousin. That's not me being overly sensitive to rejection. There is no fairer gender. We're all humans. Women arent some superior fairer sex and to think they are is not only misandrist but really actually misogynist as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 04:06 AM
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As a man I have dealt with all those things from women. No one walks an easy path.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 04:04 AM
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Yea. No one does really. Even the ultra rich. It was a simplification on my part but some people absolutly get spoiled, not just by their parents but by life in some ways. There are tons of women who are absolutly spoiled rotten by always having too many guys availiable as options or to simp and don't develope the ability to commit or communicate or even accept other people as individuals separate from them with their own valid needs and emotions that can't easily be replaced.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 12:38 PM
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I don't think it's jealousy. I don't think its good for you to get everything you want and never get rejected. That is absolutly a kind of poison to one's soul and growth and there are women who are absolutly spoiled as people by too many men simping fornthem or having too many options. There are men too. No one thinks oversexed rock stars are going to be great husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:01 AM
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Yea. That's all fair enough. The trouble Is im not really attracted to just a female body either and am thoroughly bored with women who seem to expect that to be enough to get me to chase them and create connection. I dont expect them to do all the work but a lot of women seem to be interested in a man based primarily of how much attention he gives them at least at the start and its incresibly boring. Not all women for sure though thankfully. But on a fairly regular basis women seem to give me s…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 02:58 AM
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I mean I'm sorry but I'm not sure how this relates to our discussion on this gender dynamic or why you choose to invalidate mens experience .
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 01:37 PM
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And since you're a woman you don't have to because guys will put in the effort. If you were a guy you'd have to put in the effort. That's not about forcing it thats literally the gender dynamic that is the topic of discussion. How did I know you were a woman if I'm so wrong about that? It was obvious from the way you spoke you were. Why dismiss and invalidate that this is the male experience ? What would it cost you to consider perhaps even when there is a connection that doesn't have to be forc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 11:28 AM
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And since you're a woman you don't have to because guys will put in the effort. If you were a guy you'd have to put in the effort. That's not about forcing it thats literally the gender dynamic that is the topic of discussion. How did I know you were a woman if I'm so wrong about that? It was obvious from the way you spoke you were. Why dismiss and invalidate that this is the male experience ? What would it cost you to consider perhaps even when there is a connection that doesn't have to be forc…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 11:28 AM
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Me too that's why I'm single. Are you a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 03:40 PM
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It's literally always unequal. I think when women are into you sometimes they thibi theyre being equal. Theyll show interest but the conversation wiLl fizzle if you don't ask more questions make more jokes etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 03:20 PM
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I'd deacribe this as after putting in an unequal amount of energy and successfully entertaining her, she will put in some energy. But it'll probably never be equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 02:32 PM
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But in order to get one interested you'll have to put in an unequal Amount of energy correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 02:30 PM
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Yea I told you I don't care about your incel energy. I literally stated as much. If you want to talk to me about your struggles to find meaning and connection in this world and trauma you've dealt with I'll actually listen and give a shit. If all you've got is complaining you can't get laid no I literally do not care at all. There's a difference between whining and connecting about struggles. No one cares about your complaining and whinning that you can't get laid. Especially when that's not eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 06:49 PM
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Yawn. This op wasn't about being an incel at 40. it was about not having a partner. Literally said life gets boring without a partner and heavily implied they've had one previously. I don't care about your incel energy. Getting laid is not impossible for anyone and honestly the desire for sex is something it would benefit you to rise above spirotually. It's been almost 2 years for me. That's a long ass time. You talk about my ability to easily fulfill my needs but that's just invalidating. My re…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 02:52 PM
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Huh? If you're going to make some point articulate it clearly dont imply something ambiguous. Are you saying I'm not an incel so can't comment? I've voluntarily avoided any romance for well over a year after walking in on a girl who had pursued me fucking her cousin. Thank God I hadn't slept with her. Spidey sense said no. And honestly I do miss intimacy but also am pretty happy without it. Theres more to life. Not more forever but for now. The way op talks about life is rrally weird.as if a par…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 01:27 PM
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Yea I'm not shy. I just get sick of wastijg my time or energy. Sometimes women smile at me and give me hints but there's often little evidence whether they just want attention an orbiter or to be chased vs actual connection and it lowers my consciousness to engage with them in any manner. Many good men are like this but almost all women select only out of the pool of men who pursue them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 04:18 AM
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Maybe if you were less boring and could entertain yourself you'd be more exciting to be around and would attract a partner. Get some hobbies thst make you happy and you'll either meet someone through them ornjust be happier. I'm single and I'm ecstatic that I'm going to fly a plane tomorrow. A partner would be nice but I've had one before. It's pretty nice to not have to maintain a relationship and go wherever and do whatever I want and regardless I don't think about any of this shit when I'm fl…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 03:34 AM
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Before this survey there was an actual study supposed to study the correlation of trustworthiness of a face to attractiveness. Women weren't supposed to rate men as hot or not or fuckable or not but simply above or below average. Women rated 80 percent of men as below average. Not unattractive but below average. That's insane. It's no. About not finding different things attractive. MEn rated 50 percent above and below average. Its about delusional understanding of what average means
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 03:15 AM
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But I also think for both genders those people might not be open. They might be sick of getting hurt and mislead and just focus on theirselves and their own lives. But then the thing is that to overcome that it usually has to be the man that pursues the woman. Most women perhaps unintentionally select men that chase them and put the most effort in, and that doesn't line up with men who are genuine. That isn't the only criteria they select for but they aren't pursuing men so it's by default. Or m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 01:54 PM
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Yea thats why they're flings. But they also seem to be the women who are more straightforward and proactive about forming a connection in the very beginning stages like first meeting. Maybe higher value women get hit on all the time and are less open to flings so I'd have to pursue them and convince them but honestly chasing women just seems bad for my mental health and to lower my consciousness. Perhaps with the right woman I won't feel that way but it hasn't happened yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 01:49 PM
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Most of my flings have seemed to expect me to be some sort of a player lothario type. If I play them it frees rhem to give in without admitting they have agency in that choice which frees them to resent me if they regret it or feelings of either person complicate it. I don't play games chase or seduce or be dishonest with anyone tho and sometimes they seem frustrated I'm don't and they actually have to create what they want or not have anyone to blame but themselves. It's tiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 06:51 AM
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Ok. This uh, doesn't really make much difference or add anything to the discussion. Instead of defending yourself we could discuss it and explore this topic but I get this is what you have to offer. It's ok. Pats your back. You're also wrong. Just because you objectively realize your description isn't accurate for every single man every doesn't mean it's not heavily biased or misandrist. It's ironic isn't it? Women who feel like men have nothing to offer them, end up getting viewed the same way …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:37 PM
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10 washing loads a week? Without linens? Just clothes? How many wardrobe changes you doing a day? 20? Lol. I wash 1 load every 2 weeks and I wear clean clothes every day. I've got no idea how you can wear more than one full washing machine of clothes in a single day. There's no way that's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:14 PM
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I agree but to be fair most women have more value, there are things they are capable of offering. It's not like they just can't. It's more that they won't because they want to be chased or have a delusional perception about the amount of emotional support they give vs their partner. I've played therapist and given tons of validation reassurance etc and been told that was expected of me by women who also said they thought they performed emotional labor by just passively listening to me while I ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:12 PM
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But both the man ans woman must make a choice to put in the effort, if both have the attitude that the other person should prove they are worth the effort,both people will walk away feeling the other wasn't worth the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:07 PM
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There are men like this.... but from the male perspective there's also a lot of men thst only behave this way when their needs aren't getting met in the relationship. I'd love to have someone to share things with and connect with but when dating someone who treats me in a dehumanizing way, I will check out and become depressed and avoidant. I think the view that men only want to use and exploit women as housekeepers is misandrist and very biased, but for women who hold this view, they won't even…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:04 PM
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I think naturally women desire romance and connection, perhaps less than men perhaps equallu,but more importantly than the natural difference is the fact women are being conditioned to view wanting romance with men to be weakness and the opposite of empowerment. It's socially discouraged by other women media etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 08:55 PM
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And I can't just appeal to you now? There was absolutly nothing uncivil about the post. Honestly infeel like you must see the world Ina very hostile way to assume that based on nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 06:58 PM
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Did you mean to send this reply to someone else? I can't make it make sense as a reply to my last post. I mean this is just a polite reminder to be civil right? You're not banning me correct so what's to appeal? Anyways yea I think the default assumption would be my post was empathetic as there was no indication it was otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 06:13 PM
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I was being empathetic? Did I say haha or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 06:07 PM
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I dunno but it sounds like you don't have a great mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:06 PM
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Uhhh... I mean sure, like accurate observation on the nature of true success.... but there are tons of materially successful people who get the spouse they think makes them look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 07:45 PM
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I just want the double standards to end. If a man is so vain and insecure he needs constant attention and validation from women he leads on and manipulates we would all consider him a pathetic garbage person yet for some reason the female equivalent is common and accepted. Part of this is what men in general tolerate and accept and it's not just women's fault per se but women In western societies are spoiled and are capable of better. If men didn't put up with their shit these women would actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 07:40 PM
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I had a comment deleted here because I said the same thing. Was told it was deleted for being hostile. I was entirely respectful but called out a woman for dismissing all men's struggles dating as petulance at having to treat women equally. Again, I was super respectful and not hostile at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 07:35 PM
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If you wanna have kids 40 is pretty old for a woman. That kinda tips the scales.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 04:28 AM
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You're disagreeable and I am unmotivated to continue this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 02:13 AM
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No you said they can't. Can't is different than won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 12:13 AM
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No it means women don't approach men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/23 12:00 AM
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Women can approach whoever they want to. But no one approaches the vast majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 11:59 PM
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Men don't cheat more than women. There are more men who are serial cheaters even when a relationship is going well but there are more women who have cheated or will cheat if their relationship isn't going well. That's the difference. Most men are loyal while a small percentage don't even attempt to be. Most women attempt to be loyal but will then justify not being loyal if they feel their circumstances excuse it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 11:57 PM
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Lol it was impressive. That basically ended fhe conversation actually. I respectfully questioned that attitude at which point her and her two friends started raising their voices talking over each other to talk over me and when I pointed it out they said I was making it personal and attacking thier chatecter by saying they were raising their voices and then we stopped talking. It sure was an experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 09:30 PM
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Ok. Yea you didn't deliberately include dismissal of all men's struggles as petulance at women's lessening oppression. Gaslight much? Why not just own it? You seem ti be replying a bunch for someone who won't discuss it. Seems like actually discussing it would make more sense but I'm sure that's icky.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 11:39 PM
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Lol. I don't know. I suspect it's just a way people with narcissistic personality disorder manage to fit in these days by expressing hatred for society in general while masking it as virtue signalling criticisms of the patriarchy. One young woman I met recently claimed rhe ussr was less patriarchal than the usa today. I think it was kinda trauma bonding as she told me her dad and grandpa were both killed by the kgb but she openly stated wanting to see the us fall to Marxism because the patriarch…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 11:37 PM
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You were replying to a comment not the original post. This is obvious as your reply directly invalidated the post you were replying to. And yes you didn't mention any specific struggles men face just dismissed rhem all in one fell swoop. You know when you said oh poor men... then claimed any struggles rhey face are just petulance at losing the ability to oppress women. Don't play dumb. You're a big girl you're better than that. Obfuscation isn't an actual victory. Own what you've said and especi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 11:31 PM
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I've encountered more than a couple that outright state masculinity is evil and has no healthy expression. In their minds this isn't bigotry because men can choose to not be evil by being feminine and submissive. Especially white men. These women have been Gen z below 25 years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 11:29 PM
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Well that was the point of your post. To invalidate all men's struggles in one fell swoop because women have struggles too. It was in response to a comment about men's struggles and you made it all about women and dismissed men's entirely. I don't do that. I can let both be valid. So yea I am capable of empathy and can spot the obvious lack of it. And ok thanks for saying you won't discuss it. I won't expect you to be capable of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 11:25 PM
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Controlling chanelling and using agression and overcoming baser instincts is something that's been expected of men for thousands of years. These days men are expected to be zen masters thst rise above all earthly temptation and don't so much as glance at women who insist on wearing next to nothing.. Is there a female equivalent in terms of expectation to be some kind of monk who has transcended and fully mastered their animal selves? From what I see all manner of leeway and empathy is extended t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 10:54 PM
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And the utter lack of empathy can convince one of their own victimhood. It's not either or. Men's struggles being valid doesn't invalidate yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 10:50 PM
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Or only support the breaking down of traditional male roles so long as it's done in the way they like that creates feminized sycophantic simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 10:44 PM
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Yea besides apologizing for coming off as debating everything you've said that actually interacted with my statements or perspective were disagreeing with me. And yea you're not my friend but you posted presumably wanting to understand and then have seemed pretty undisposed to understand, focusing on how you disagree rather than anything else. You said this was men's time to shine to show we want more than just sex. Well this was your time to shine to show you can see things from another perspec…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 03:43 AM
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Ok. Guess I'm wrong then bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 01:56 AM
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It proves my point that it's more than just caring or platonic friendship and is not something men get from women outside of a relationship. You may care about your male friends and eventually get to know them.but you're not like omg I find you so fascinating and I think you're so great I simply must know more about you and how you got to be who you are. That's what it means for someone to think I'm special and value me in a way that isn't just replaceable and has value beyond services u provide…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 01:28 AM
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Ok thank you. Perhaps just my perspective.... But it does seem you're more concerned with your own opinions than understanding my perspective. Kinda does prove my point. Women don't need to understand their breadwinners and emotional support animals
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 12:42 AM
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Yes for me this is absolutly romantic. Hence why I answered with it. It's absolutly not something I'll get anywhere else and I've described how without it sharing experiences and providing emotional or financial support make me feel used and replaceable. It's absolutly essential to me for romance. But yea I get you feel differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 12:38 AM
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True but some of thst is just what happens over time if they are emotionally present. A friend is supposed to be emotionally present. Not necessarily like want to proactively understand you. Not sure whynyoure arguing this as.it's my preference. I am not feeling understood here that's for sure. Or like any of the replies I've gotten are someone wanting to understand. More just tell me how I'm wrong. Some things there's room for difference of opinion but this is literally just my perspective. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 12:29 AM
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I don't think it makes women horny or is a turn on in thst sense. I think it attracts and draws women to you. It doesn't turn them on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 11:58 PM
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Nah. A friend can be caring without being interested in understanding you. They can just be your friend. Like a dog doesn't need to know what makes you tick. They can just be your buddy. If someone thinks I'm their special someone they better want to understand me otherwise I'm just someone who makes them feel special. I'm not someone special to them. I'm replaceable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 11:46 PM
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I told you in my first post. Since then you've just either struggled with things thst are obvious or more likely played dumb to obfuscate my point, giving weird brief non replies multiple times. I'm done.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 11:31 PM
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From what I can tell, just right down to the core of you. Bye bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 06:23 PM
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Seems obvious to me and feels more like some weak attempt to redirect away from actually realizing you were wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 05:46 PM
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Huh ? The person you were talking to? Do you have alzheimers or is this some sort of philosophical question meant to inspire reflection?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 05:40 PM
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I would like someone who is interested in me enough they want to understand me, my traumas what makes me tick my dreams etc. Spending time together and sharing experiences is nice but you feel replaceable without that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 05:32 PM
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No he's discussing it as a general problem he has experience with individually.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 05:27 PM
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Not wverything is conditioning that needs to be overcome. Some things are instincts you need ti listen to. Don't rush yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/23 02:58 AM
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And majority of women are not feminists these days. Even young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 03:09 PM
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Fair enough. But having a strong work ethic alone in this modern society pretty much just means you're a sucker being used by a corporation that doesn't value you. Imagination to live a life differently than the drones and npcs and desire for meaning purpose fulfillment adventure etc are all more important these days. If your daughters are looking to meet men solely at the drone factory that is higher education they're picking from an already strange pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 02:31 PM
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It seems youre equating decency with ambition. They're two separate things.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 02:19 PM
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I think for women they more get swipe brain from the dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 08:22 PM
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We live in a time of reiimagining and redefining dating. Both the opportunity to and the necessity because the old models aren't happening any more. I'm not surprised at all that's mainstream and I'm not surprised at all much of the discourse and thinking about this can be fit into largely preexisting boxes such has the old old ideas before the current old ones, or be simply angry or disruptive to the status quo with no real idea how to manifest things differently for yourself or society. Thats …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 02:16 PM
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People lying to impress others at bars is absolutly not unique to my perception. It's a trope in movies and TV shows and there's tons of jokes about it on Instagram tik tok etc. It'd almost accepted as not really deceit because everyone knows drunk people at bars make up whatever. It's almost like a game
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 03:24 PM
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Really? You find bars to be just full of people being thier authentic selves totally telling the truth about themselves? People interested in authentic connection and not just to get attention to stroke their ego? You're probably the only one then.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 11:42 PM
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I can have decent hygiene and not wear dirty clothes but honestly detest fashion and find those who put much thought into it to be shallow people who think their image is an identity. I also find a lot of how men attract women to be preening and posturing and in authentic and they sicken me. Going to a bar is just like watching a bunch of idiotic peacocks strut around preening and posturing and women eat up who preens the best. Forget that a lot of the self promotinf stayements are most likely o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 06:20 PM
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You're wrong. Im.not some gigachad but I have gotten decent looking women who weren't highly promiscous with zero effort. Rarely but it happens. It's just gotta be the right time and place and you've gotta be a human being and they might just be a human and not make you chase them. So easy yes. Reliably accesable no. Or maybe I am a gigachad and just have disproportionately low self esteem. Well, considering women like confidence that would make me not a gigchad wouldn't it? Many women just like…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 03:27 AM
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Game is lame. Nothing trumps spiritual power. Even money. Charisma is good too. No game is not charisma.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 08:11 PM
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I think of it more as a non starter than a deal breaker. If someone's not trying to be monogamous with you they're going to make you chase them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 03:04 AM
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So my league is weird but hot narcissistic women and gay dudes. Huh. I'm straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 12:11 AM
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Honestly you're just wrong there are tons of guys who are just loyal. I've never been tempted to.cheat even when I had chances and was with someone abusive because at that point I was committed to that relationship. It's a pleasure to be committed honestly. To not have to look or stress about looking to not have to let other women have any power over you with their wiles and flirtation cus you've got yours. To not feel the sting when a woman leads you on then you realize she just wanted.attentio…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 06:46 PM
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When i have myself been actually committed and shut rhe doors in my mind that lead to openness towards attraction with others, I felt very much at peace and like I had connected to a higher truth for myself and like tjats the kind of relationship I want. And I want a partner capable of matching me in that and understanding commitment is a choice to shut certain doors. There are many good things thst come with that. Less stress of looking more peace. More connection and openness towards your part…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 06:40 PM
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Well you could use this tactic then just be a decent guy. THis isnt manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/23 03:14 PM
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You can't just try one method have it not work and blame tye method. Different situations girls etc need.different tactics. Some women aren't going to be a wife regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 06:53 PM
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Your example is less about honesty than lack of tact. If you'd just said you had a crush on him and were fine with his height things would have probably gone better for you both. It would also be a true and honest answer. You also answered his question literally with seemingly no awareness of the subtext. My suggested answer answered the subtext for why he's asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/23 04:33 AM
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That's a cop out. Like you're right but adult humans should be more than their social conditioning. It's perhaps more accurate to say they do it because society is permissive of them doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 09:47 AM
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I don't think it even occurs to them to try. I think lost women feelnlike people are meant to be experienced more than understood.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 09:59 PM
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I think it changes with age as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 01:23 PM
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The speed is separate from the cadualness
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 05:34 AM
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Yea like i said the ability to get a healthy one that works out is in practice contradictory to casual moving fast not asking too many questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 03:49 AM
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Nah.man. toxic relationships suuuck. Plenty of guys have a few. Plenty of marriages fail after kids. A decent number of guys find out they raised other guys kids. I met a guy going through that not long ago. How to get laid might he rhe obsession of incels but it's not the only problem. In fact if they started just trying to connect they'd probably get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 03:40 AM
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Most girls have a 24 or 48 hour rule for casual sex. Thats still casual. Women willing to sleep with someone within an hour or two of meeting yes absolutely are rare and always highly promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 03:32 AM
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But the process of vetting a healthy one that works out possibly for life and that of starting casual often end up contradicting in practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 03:30 AM
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Ehh I've had some casual sex with absolutely no effort with women who weren't super promiscuous. I'm not the kind of guy who can manifest it whenever I want but mostly just because I don't truly want it. Sure it was kind of nice to not have to put out any effort. Just walk through the woods playing guitar and just have some girl under a spell follow me like I'm pan or something. Not having to chase or whatever. But the goods are always a bit odd if that's the case. Like will sleep with you with …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 03:24 AM
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If it's white lie it's not immoral by definition. However there are very few white lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 03:45 PM
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It just doesn't occur to them. They feel like they're here to experience things and do not reflect on what parts of their nature they need to rise above. If they get a crush on another guy its just a thing that happens to them that rhey experience not the result of choices they have made. Men however have known they have to master their emotions and aggression for thousands of years.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 03:33 PM
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I feel like women don't view it as their responsibility to keep the spark alive. They just think when it's gone it's gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 02:22 PM
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Bless you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/23 02:05 PM
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The ideal is falling in love in high school or college and getting married for rhe rest of your life with someone near your own age. Any time after that it gets weirder and weirder.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/23 10:17 PM
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If number one is motivated to be healthy fit and not waste their lives but pursue cool adventures and develeope skills etc but doesn't wear makeup and isn't super motivated to do chores around rhe house or cook food then I am so down with number 1. Sounds like a dream girl honestly. If she's just generally lazy and wants to hang out on thencouch watching TV all day that's an different story but I don't need anyone to cook and clean for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 11:28 PM
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You should be easy to get to know not easy to sleep with. If you're just guarded and aloof in every way that leads nowhere including meaningful connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/23 04:21 AM
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Hey thank you for your kind words. I'm not really better but thank you. I do realize the op of this post is making some weird generalizations but it was striking to me as it seemed liked my ex was being described with the emotional volatility controlling and slothful.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 05:18 PM
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My ex gf only punched holes in walls a few times. Mostly she just punched me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 04:35 PM
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You're right. You should have been banned before I made the mistake of interacting with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 09:31 PM
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As a man I really don't feel like other men have ever given a Shit bout my appearance
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 09:01 PM
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Non argument. Banning people for actual offenses is just as good regardless of what narrative you're framing it into. You've yet to describe any benefit of autobanning vs banning for actual offenses. You seem like a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 07:37 PM
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Huh? So how is autobanning good? Instead of this lame insubstantive back and forth maybe you could just actually describe a reasonable defense of autobanning? If you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 06:46 PM
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Funny. It seems to me you're demonstrating how useless a discussion becomes when reduced to nothing but demands for sources. You've done that pretty well. It still isn't relevant to the current discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 06:44 PM
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Obvious troll is obvious. You're the kind of person who doesn't know the difference between a discussion and an argument. How is that relevant to the current discussion? Seems like a non sequitur designed to elicit a reaction. Ei trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 06:27 PM
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Everyone is a potential troll. I think you're likely to be one. Ban everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 05:04 PM
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It's a discussion topic not claiming facts data etc. Not something you need a source for.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:42 PM
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They also do this thing where it's all casual and friendly before they willingly have sex with a guy without being seduced or anything even being the aggressors themselves rhen after having sex say well why won't you commit to me even though I'm seeing multiple other guys and I never mentioned commitment before sex. It's not like a horrible evil behavior but similar to ghosting after sex it's kind of about them wanting to have sex but not quite stopping to be aware that rheyll feel emotions or a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 02:49 PM
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Foreveralonewomen only has like 15k members. So they exist but there's not many of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 09:42 AM
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No. It's not the general consensus. Using the worst behavior of rhe opposite gender to enable and justify you dehumanizing men is neither logical nor healthy. It's obvious you're coming from a place of anger towards men and it's obvious you don't view men as individuals but rather punish all men for the behavior of the worst men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 07:37 AM
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Autobanning is by definition banning people for things that aren't trolling but rather simply interacting with certain subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 01:02 AM
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I've never seen a man punch another man at work. Much less without consequences. What world are you living in?.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 11:37 PM
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Why autobanning instead of just banning people when they do something ban worthy?.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 09:20 PM
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No one's forced to interact with anyone online.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 09:20 PM
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I also think media is conditioning people to be angry at the other gender and not respect them. At the very least this is done just for ratings and sensationalism but I also wonder if it's an intentional nefarious effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 09:15 PM
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Isn't some amount of this inevitable regardless of income? Women often seem to start feeling like they can do better .
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 09:12 PM
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When did I say it's OK for a man to treat women like disposable objects? Nowhere that's where. You're accurate using the phrase without impunity but I don't think that word means what you think it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 11:28 AM
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But I'd like to have sex. I just can't find a partner I feel comfortable with. Honestly I don't think you can call it either strictly voluntary or involuntary. The world simply does not revolve around me and it is the way it is without my approval or consent. Many things are not either black or white voluntary or involuntary. Finding decent romantic partners is one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 12:22 AM
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I dunno about the victim mentality thing but the whole incel thing doesn't make any sense. I haven't had sex in like a year. I'd like to and have had chances to but the people who offered were either men, and I'm not into men, or women who offered but in a way I felt was objectifying or dehumanizing to me and I declined. So is it voluntary or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 12:04 AM
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Honestly one time I was a bit of a dick to someone and a female that witnessed it just came up and started hitting on me and I was like wtf is going on I was just a douche you should not be rewarding that. It was so weird. Maybe women are wired like this but higher consciousness people can overcome some of their wiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:41 PM
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I see women as potentially equals but perceive them as not wanting to connect with me or share my emotions with me and instead just wanting me for dick validation attention and money. In terms of doing the work at home. I expect to keep things as clean as I did if I was single and expect there to be some tension if she has slightly higher standards. Really I end up not being aware of some minor things my exes were aware of and struggled to make myself remember them so instead cooked them delicio…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 05:45 PM
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The first one seems to be something that could also be done with partner and the second does not seem like something that is unequivocally good but thanks for answering.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 07:41 PM
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Yea regret and shame are great teachers and help us learn from our mistakes. You're describing learning from mistakes. You are not describing regret being attached to things that weren't mistakes. Eventually we can learn to crept our past mistakes as patt of our journey etc but this doesn't mean we should repeat them it means we only did them because we needed to learn a lesson.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 07:39 PM
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You don't describe anything that would lend itself to being worth recommending. What was the benefit exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 03:54 PM
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How is someone feeling regret about a hookup not tied to it being a bad experience? Like sure maybe some pleasure but if the end result is regret that seems pretty clearly to be an overall negative experience or else you wouldn't feel regret.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 03:52 PM
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There is research that supports this. Can't remember the name of the study but there was one that found if men do something they regret they'll stop doing it after one two times usually but if women don't stop after the first time then they almost always increasingly adopt the behavior that caused rhem regret. I think perhaps they externalize the regret, telling themselves they don't feel regret instead they have internalized misogyny over gender roles and just need to be more empowered and end …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 03:45 PM
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Objectification for anyone is both flattering and lonely and alienating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 06:08 AM
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You say women might filter out less smart men. Many might filter out smarter men who are less easy to control. Intelligence might not be the top of their list or anywhere close. Many might think of it as a red flag even.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 06:07 AM
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How does cheating factor into this view? Like you describe tjis stuff in the abstract it's not clear if you're talking about men as incels or like dead bedroom relationships where the woman starts cheating. The validity for anger in these situations is vastly different. Perhaps you just mean the incels but it seems odd your post is so vague to not even seem to realize the existence of the same attitude being betrayal in a committed relationship and necessitating deceit.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 06:03 AM
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