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| 3 | The core of the problem.I hope you’re right and it’s really changing quickly, but even 100 years with no significant change, despite huge changes in the living conditions, technology and so on, is definitely not “quickly”. To be honest I really hate the gender role of men that is, throughout the whole history, being providers, always taking the initiative, always having to “buy” our value, when women are simply born with it. Dates or restaurants were just an example of the form, that this phenomenon took in the 20/21st… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/10/20 08:44 AM |
| 2 | The core of the problem.Freedom is exactly what I meant. I used the word “defy” as a reference to your reply, in which you stated that gender roles have their roots in the nature of humans. If someone wants to set free from something that is in the human nature, defying the nature seems to be the only way to go. Maybe I can’t put it into words very well since english is not my first language. I think you got it right, but I can try to clarify it. By “no practical purpose” I meant that sticking to traditional gender rol… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/10/20 07:01 PM |
| 3 | The core of the problem.Unfortunately I can not agree with you. Gender roles, just as the whole of cultural norms are not as flexible and adjustable as you claim, they evolve, that’s right, but they evolve slowly. Just look at how gender roles are imposed on people. Men don’t pay for women because “it’s the most suitable way to act in the 21st century”. Actually it’s pretty much senseless in the 21st, for material situation of that woman can be even better than of the man who is paying for her. So why do they do it? Be… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/10/20 06:28 PM |
| 1 | The core of the problem.I don’t say we should defy them, I merely said that we can/are able to defy them. If someone is happy living according to the gender roles, nobody can forbid him/her to live like this. But I think we should have a choice, nobody should be forced into a role they don’t fit in. Plus it is clear that gender roles serve no practical purpose in most of modern societies, that’s another reason why people turn away from them. Finally I feel like being able to adapt to changes is a very human thing; on t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/10/20 05:12 PM |
| 8 | The core of the problem.Technically you’re right, the trend is positive. Although I know cases such as my sister, she and her bf went to a cinema and her boyfriend suggested that each pays for their tickets and food separately. Then she came back home and she told us (me and my parents) about it. She said that she got mad at him for not being a gentleman, both my parents admitted that she’s right to do so, because “what a man he is?!”, he’s obviously lacking manners, he’s not a good boyfriend, he’s not enough of a man.… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/10/20 04:20 PM |
| 3 | The core of the problem.True, but humans, unlike other animals, usually can control some of their “wild” instincts. Otherwise everyone would have sex with anyone they find attractive, they would be attacking (eventually killing) anyone they dislike and so on, as it is in nature. Obviously it’s not the case. That’s why even if gender roles are somehow imposed on us by nature, we can defy them, as we defy many other aspects of our animal spirit. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/10/20 02:12 PM |
| 19 | The core of the problem.I think that you really hit the nail on the head when you say that gender roles were created in the tribal times, to meet the needs humans had centuries ago; hence, they have no function in the modern societies. Maybe it’s time to finally give up on them? By the way, not only some people say that misandry is not a thing, I’ve even read an article stating that misandry is justified, and men should be hated. Here it is: https://medium.com/@anthoknees/women-have-a-right-to-hate-men-df41b4de3842 The… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/10/20 02:04 PM |
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