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They need bans.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 03:58 PM
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Men are taught to be strong and leaders so they can grit their teeth through all the bullshit they put up with. Men are taught to accept anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 03:57 PM
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They have more free time to volunteer while men are busy providing for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 03:54 PM
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God I wish one day I can be considered one of the good ones by a female. That's my greatest goal in life is the to be one of the good ones out of the disgusting terrible men. Would you please accept me?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 03:28 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_for_Men_v._Selective_Service_System
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 03:29 AM
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I don't believe men are vermin. I'm just going along with these women to see how far deep their true colors really are. These people straight up hate men and view a few of them as one of the good ones. They're as misandrist as racists are racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 03:29 AM
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Yes you do. They're your oppressors remember? They have such easy carefree lives and will never understand the suffering you go through.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 03:27 AM
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It does if they're a feminist which most women are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 02:26 AM
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Do they know what you said to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 01:50 AM
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Those negative experiences have lead to women feeling resentful towards men as a whole. Men can only hope to be considered "one of the good ones" in a woman's life. Just like the best a black man can be in a racist's life is "one of the good ones".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 01:49 AM
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The ideology says that men are oppressors and women are oppressed. If you believe that, why would you prioritize the liberation of the oppressors just as much as the oppressed?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 01:47 AM
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Is it really just all talk? This woman I'm talking with seems pretty serious. I don't think she loves men even if she thinks few are one of the good ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 01:23 AM
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So despite believing all this, you would still choose to be heterosexual over homosexual if you had the choice of your sexuality? Why? Do the men that you treat well know that you think men are for the most part terrible people who want to enslave women and barely view them as people but they are just one of the good ones? Do they know you think they are weak, less resilient, and less rational than women but they are one of the exceptional men and one of the good ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 01:20 AM
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Aren't the majority of men trash though? Don't all men have some level of subconscious misogyny? Or do you believe that the majority of women are also trash and have their own sexism?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 01:05 AM
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Why not permanently? Why would you choose men who are generally less attractive, and more irresponsible, more violent, and morally corrupt than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 12:59 AM
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Okay so you're not a feminist. Maybe that explains why you don't hate all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 12:59 AM
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Not all emotions are productive. Also, the feminist response to men's issues is that it's their fault because men built society. Women had no part in building society because they were oppressed. I don't agree with this but how would you disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 12:58 AM
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Do you think in this oppressive system, men benefit more than women? If so, why would you not feel bitter and resentful about that? Supposedly, society was built by men. So if you are oppressed, then it's men's fault right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 12:31 AM
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But they oppress you every day and supposedly live such easy lives. Why would you not be bitter and resentful about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 12:28 AM
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Men and women have very emotionally intimate relationships. Do you really think that women could hide such feelings without most men in relationships with them noticing? Women resent men as a whole and as a class of people while appreciating a few individual men. This is similar to how racists hate black people but view a few of them as one of the good ones. This isn't healthy or respectful to me as a man because if you hate men in general but not me, then you hate a large part of my identity an…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 12:20 AM
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You know you don't have to keep engaging with someone who is being abusive. This brother is hurt but he can't be helped right now until he processes what he's going through in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 12:06 AM
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I'll clarify that I don't believe women feel vitriol passionate hate for men, but a resentful victim complex towards their oppressors and mild disgust. Women are still under heavy pressure to conform, start families, and have children. At some level, they desire these things so they decide the pros outweigh the cons and they grit their teeth and bare their disgust for men to pair with them. I think you might lie to me for the same reason that women in real life would lie to me. You fear that I m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 12:04 AM
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So most men are disgusting. Do you believe most women are disgusting? If most women are not disgusting, why would you not rather be attracted to pussy than dick?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 11:53 PM
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Feminism does not dictate what you prioritize Why would you prioritize the oppressors over the oppressed? You can advance women without prioritizing them But feminism prioritizes women. So if you're a feminist, you're not merely advancing women, but prioritizing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 11:49 PM
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Of course I know I have the choice to believe whatever I want. I'm just asking you if you're familiar with how women are a lot more agreeable and confrontation avoidant in real life? Women also fear men. So that doesn't that mean they have an incentive to conceal what they really think about men in person? So you think many GenZ women are identifying as bisexual because it's trendy and attention seeking?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 11:48 PM
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Are you attracted to men or women? If you're attracted to men, if I gave you the choice to wave my magic wand and make you attracted to women, would you accept? If you wouldn't accept, why not? Why choose disgusting man children over women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 11:42 PM
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Okay so if men just want mother figures, then doesn't that mean they are effectively man children? If men don't view women as people, doesn't that mean they are disgusting? I'm just translating you. Men are disgusting man children. We get it. Now tell me, why would you choose to be attracted to disgusting man children over beautiful divine women if you could choose your sexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 11:30 PM
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Formal positions mean nothing to social power. Remind me what sex holds most social power?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 11:28 PM
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Why should I believe what those women say isn't what most women actually think? They're anonymous so they're free to express their real opinions. Also, generally, women are a lot more agreeable than men, so they'll smile in your face because they play the social game or because they fear men but that isn't what they think about you. Another point is that GenZ is the generation that is least susceptible to heterosexism. When people are free to choose, we've found out that 1/3rd of GenZ women are …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 11:26 PM
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Women are incentivized to hate men but through feminism and not evolutionary reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 11:20 PM
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Did you read the threads that OP posted? Every women has some level of resentment towards men. Do you not view men as your oppressors? If you could choose to be a lesbian, why wouldn't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 11:17 PM
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So most men are disgusting man children. Women need to be more outspoken about things like this so young women don't entertain the idea of committing to men. If you could choose to be a lesbian, would you? If not, why wouldn't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 11:16 PM
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Most women don't love men. Most women secretly resent men. Look at the threads that OP linked.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 11:15 PM
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Don't love em just fuck em
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 11:11 PM
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There is a fine line between assertiveness and dominance and women don't make it easy because of they are avert to communication.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 11:09 PM
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Men don't lead society. Society is shaped by both women and men. You can't divorce society from women no matter how much you'd like to. Women are just as responsible for this mess as men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 11:05 PM
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Feminism is not about men “prioritizing” women. Yes it is. Feminism is strictly about advancing women. If you only prioritize women, you are not prioritizing men. Male feminists are pathetic because they ignore all men's issues. Men have bigger problems to worry about than feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 10:47 PM
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Biology can be sexist. So it's just a coincidence that now that men are no longer necessary as financial objects, dating is much worse? Men are seen as financial objects first and people second. Disgusting misandry. You still haven't given an answered how women can overcome their biological misandry to stop objectifying men as objects. I suspect the reason why this isn't examined is because feminists view women as having hypo agency, therefore incapable of reflecting on their contributions towar…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 10:29 PM
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Duh I meant combatants. We have legislation that says men don't have a choice to be combatant fatalities unlike women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 10:27 PM
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Good for you. Do you in your day to day life prioritize men's issues as much as women's?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 10:26 PM
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Imagine being willfully misandrist. Oof.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 10:25 PM
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There are hundreds of definitions for patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 10:25 PM
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It's laughable to compare white women and feminism to black people and slavery. Where do you get off as being the most privileged people to ever exist to compare yourself to actually marginalized groups? Men don't have any opportunities that you don't. Men didn't choose gender roles either. It was decided for us by society as a whole. Gender roles hurt women too not just men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 10:24 PM
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We can achieve common ground, but what good does that do when they've been brought up their whole lives believing I am the cause of all their problems and they've been resenting me for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:26 PM
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Yes you're so right because historically, women die in wars just as much as men! There is nothing for me to worry about obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:25 PM
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Mfer I just said obviously one sentence won't mean you understand it completely. I can look up all those words in the dictionary. Would you say the definition of patriarchy in the dictionary suffices? If you can't define something, it's not scientific.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:24 PM
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Men do not have all the power. A very, very small group of men have all the power. Those men do not have the interests of all men. Gender roles dictate that formal leader positions are assigned to men. I've had this conversation a million times with people. Gender norms are obviously real and obviously harm everyone. I think what feminists don't like about this is that it implies that men are just as much victims as women, and women are just as guilty (and benefit just as much from the system), …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:22 PM
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I am because I am a male and I filled out that paper. You think women are just as much potential draftees as men? Delusional. Look at Ukraine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:11 PM
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There is goodness in most people but when you're told that this group of people is oppressing you then why would you not resent them? You wouldn't have sympathy for you would you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:05 PM
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I believe in equal rights for women and I'm not a feminist. I don't believe in patriarchy theory or oppressor/oppressed dynamics. Do you support men's initiatives? No? Why should I prioritize women's rights when mine are under attack?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:00 PM
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I don't know what else I would call feminism besides devoid of common human sympathy for men's issues. Their thought is like this: "Men don't have issues and if they do it's their fault and if women contribute to it, then it's up to men to figure it out."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:58 PM
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Do you support men's rights and male advocacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:55 PM
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Lol not that extreme but yes I think most men nowadays are very wary around women. There were studies coming out that men interact with women a lot less in workplaces now and some of the women were upset about it because they think it's misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:52 PM
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The unspoken standard is not that men are leaders, it's that men have hyper agency while women have no agency. These gender roles cut both ways. It's not patriarchy. It's gender roles. The patriarchy was never a thing. Define patriarchy in one sentence or it's not and never was a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:50 PM
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I think you'll be okay sweetheart.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:48 PM
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Nope. I can't write into law that all women can be forced into slavery at the president's discretion. There would a monstrous uproar if that law was enacted.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:48 PM
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Really? So all men are forced to register for the draft for shits and giggles?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:47 PM
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Choose any word in chemistry, law, physics, medicine and I can define it in one sentence. A definition is not meant to convey complete in depth understanding. I'm more than capable of reading a chapter, but if you can't define the word patriarchy, then it doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:46 PM
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Nope. I know you're just itching to call men who would live that way misogynists though so go ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:45 PM
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They can be. It is written into law.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:22 PM
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Women are weak during pregnancy. Women have biological instinct to view men as financial objects for their own security and safety. This is not a sociological issue. Even if technological advancements are made so that women don't need to ever experience pregnancy, their attraction would still be for tall, strong men that make them feel protected and safe. Abstaining from dating is not evidence that women don't objectify men as financial objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:21 PM
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I'm not reading a book chapter. Define patriarchy in one sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:17 PM
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No word in the dictionary has a definition that is 4 paragraphs long. Patriarchy is not an exception. If you can't clearly summarize a definition of patriarchy, then it doesn't exist. If something can't be defined, it doesn't exist. I can't use the scientific method to disapprove religion or patriarchy because they're both ideologies. They are intentionally vague.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:17 PM
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Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:15 PM
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Legally in my country, the USA? They don't have institutionalized sexism in the form of conscription. Besides rights, women have a lot more privileges.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:14 PM
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I agree. It's just unfortunate that feminism has become the zeitgeist. When men want to be liberal and leftist, the first thing they encounter is feminism which lies to them that feminism is for equality. That if men fight for feminism, then male issues would be solved because the patriarchy hurts men too. It's similar to raegonomics, but like trickle down economics it won't work. For women's benefit and disadvantage, we live in a gynocentric society so it's hard for male advocacy to ever be as …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:11 PM
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What do you mean by female separatism? How would that dismantle women's ingrained misandry in objectifying men as financial objects?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:07 PM
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To be alone with a woman. To not be wary of all women because they all have the capacity to completely ruin your life if you're not careful. Men need to understand women have the social power over them so we have to be careful.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:06 PM
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They do, isn't that what the bear thing is all about? All men are predators until proven otherwise. If I gave you a box of chocolates and told you one is poisonous, would you still eat it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:04 PM
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You're too ridiculous to continue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 08:04 PM
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Define patriarchy so I can disapprove it. If you can't define something, it's not scientific, it's an ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 06:26 PM
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Define patriarchy so I can disapprove it. If you can't define something, it's not scientific, it's an ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 06:25 PM
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Define patriarchy so I can disapprove it. If you can't define something, it's not scientific, it's an ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 06:25 PM
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Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 06:15 PM
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Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 06:15 PM
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You do have to clarify that. Why do you think you wouldn't. It's not like the patriarchy is scientific. It's a stupid fucking ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 06:15 PM
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How do you know it isn't that? It's a reasonable explanation to make over your misandrist explanation that men are evil fucks who don't want to raise children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 06:00 PM
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Is all you do in this sub is argue that feminism does not equal women and patriarchy does not equal men? This is not a real argument. You just parrot this like a spammer.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 05:57 PM
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Only men who are sure that they will get custody will bother to pursue it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 05:56 PM
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As an egalitarian, I call those gender roles. Women and men both contribute to misandry and misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 05:54 PM
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Yes they do. Conscription is institutionalized sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 05:52 PM
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These books are fucking stupid and he shouldn't read them unless he wants to hate himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 05:45 PM
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When women rape men, it's because of the patriarchy. When the Big Bang happened, it's because of the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 05:44 PM
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None of is proof of the existence of patriarchy, rather that gender roles exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 05:43 PM
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Women experiencing sexism does not mean patriarchy exists. Also, it's girls who are showered with all the attention and money from their parents. Boys are left to rot because people are misandrist and believe boys are easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 05:42 PM
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Disproportionate and unique impacts faced by women in marginalized groups? You can't be fucking serious. If you're part of a marginalize group, you have it worse off if you're a man. Black men are the ones getting shot in the streets over and over for example. Feminism negatively impacts the lives of men. You think viewing men as oppressors doesn't harm them? How would it not? When you view men as oppressors, then their issues matter less and their suffering matters less.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 05:39 PM
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That's because most men are still manipulated by feminism to believe it's for equality. Men need to wake up that feminism has no place for men and we need to advocate for male outside of feminism's patriarchy ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 05:37 PM
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So that means women are the largest enforcers of patriarchy. Since women are the reason why men feel that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 05:36 PM
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Women already treat all men as predators until proven otherwise. Why would you be offended by men being paranoid about women? Are you a hypocrite?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:58 AM
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They say it doesn't matter that the vast majority of men aren't rapists because if you gave them a box of chocolates and told them one was poisoned, they wouldn't eat it. Similarly, it doesn't matter that false accusations of rape only happen 10% of the time because that's still too high of a risk to take.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:58 AM
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Male advocacy is best done without subscribing to feminism's patriarchy theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:53 AM
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Don't keep changing the definition of patriarchy hon. You keep moving the goalposts back the more we argue with you hon. You said the patriarchy means when power and wealth are passed through men. So admit it, patriarchy is about men? Feminism is the main force of advocacy that has pushed us progressively forward as a society You have no substantial argument left to make so now you've fallen back into parroting your programming. Feminist's brains break when they encounter logic. This is why you …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:52 AM
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The patriarchy does not exist. Notice how your definition of the patriarchy is different than his? There are hundreds of definitions of patriarchy. This is done for the purpose of deception. Gender roles are why women can't be strong and men can't be sensitive. Feminism is not about equal rights for all. Feminism does not place men's interests at the same priority as women's interests. Feminists believe men should form their own movement to solve their own problems, because feminism is for women…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:43 AM
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Please shout this louder to all these feminists that try to recruit men to be allies with the false promise that if they advocate for feminism enough, then misandry would be solved because "the patriarchy hurts men too!" It's manipulative and dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:38 AM
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I could say the same about a lot of women's issues. Imagine complaining that men catcalled you in public when there are people starving to death or dying in wars as we speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:21 AM
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No it's not. Do you understand what an analogy is?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:03 AM
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Oh I know why you're wondering. Because men are evil unless proven otherwise. You wouldn't have this suspicion if the roles were reversed. If he hates single moms, would you not call him a misogynist? I'm just helping you out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:02 AM
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To be a feminist means you think patriarchy exists. If you believe patriarchy exists, then men are oppressors and women are oppressed. If you believe men are oppressors, then they must be evil. If men are evil, then you are morally superior and none of their suffering matters. Feminism is cancerous. I know not every feminist will agree that y’all get the short end of the stick too From my experience, feminists will diminish and deny men's issues but if this is not possible, then they'll blame th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 05:57 AM
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It couldn't possibly be that her strong reaction was her being a crazy bitch? It has to be he's a misogynist?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 05:45 AM
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You could also survive in solitary confinement for a very long time. That doesn't mean that social interaction isn't a need. It absolutely is a need for human beings as we are very social animals. Also, I wasn't talking about sex I was talking about any touch like hugs or handshakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 05:36 AM
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This has nothing to do with thinking women are inferior. This has everything to do with viewing yourself as a disposable tool because society has conditioned you to think you are meant to do nothing more than to provide and your wellbeing doesn't matter. One more time, toxic masculinity is not a real thing just like toxic femininity isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 05:33 AM
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I don't know what you're talking about my only familiarity with this topic is feminists and women centric groups telling each other men are disgusting and have terrible hygiene.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 05:30 AM
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I don't agree with that. Could you explain why you think so? I think humans need touch because it connects us with others and releases hormones that make us happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 05:28 AM
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Sometimes he doesn't know. Women can be very manipulative and can even convince themselves they're attracted to someone they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 01:56 AM
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Well maybe you're one of the good ones! See how I said one of the good ones? Similar to how many feminists will say all men are trash except their husbands/brothers/fathers as one of the good ones which they got from racists that call black people one of the good ones. The way you phrased your comment goes against the ideology of feminism. It ignores the position of men as the oppressors and women as oppressed. Men can't have issues because they're oppressors but if they do, well they built the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 01:50 AM
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Does the issue of men being generally touch starved fall under "men just want to get their dicks wet" or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 01:32 AM
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I appreciate how you phrased this that doesn't turn men away. This is how a feminist would have sounded: "Toxic masculinity holds men to unreasonable standards under the patriarchy. The patriarchy hurts men too!"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 01:30 AM
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It makes you okay with harming pixels, not people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 01:25 AM
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If she has kids, her resources can't go to his. I suspect single dads don't expect as much from their partners as single moms do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 01:20 AM
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Less than as a human being? No. Single moms are less than as dating partners though and at some point we have to accept the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 01:19 AM
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Then why would saying I like skinny healthy BMI girls be seen as offensive by women but saying I like single moms not be offensive?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 01:18 AM
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I have zero sympathy for women who lash out against men because of their own experiences. This is 100% unacceptable behavior. It's not like women ever try to understand why a man would do something beyond just dismissing it because he must be evil or a misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 01:15 AM
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Do you have any reason to assume that's what he was doing besides the fact that he's a man? He must have been misogynist right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 01:13 AM
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Tough shits. At least you had a choice. Now imagine being born ugly completely out of your control and not having a dating pool in the first place. Imagine being a short man. Single moms are privileged in comparison. I have no empathy for the problems of privileged people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 01:12 AM
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They made their bed now lie in it. You're not entitled to a relationship from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 01:09 AM
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Do you think women whine about men's preferences constantly? Or is that just only men who are whiny?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 01:07 AM
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You think men don't wipe their ass? Please get off twox or TikTok or whatever feminist rare bait you're engaging with that's spreading misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 01:04 AM
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It's sociopathic to sacrifice yourself for others? Sociopathy is about selfishness, which the pursuit of your own happiness above all else definitely is selfish. I wish I had that luxury but some of us actually have families to take care of.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 01:03 AM
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Toxic masculinity does not exist because positive masculinity and toxic femininity also do not exist. Toxic gender roles are real. Okay so break it down then. Why would men feel emasculated about seeking healthcare or caring about their own health? Also, please tell those nurses to do their freaking jobs instead of "perching on the knee of a 90-something day surgery patient."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 01:02 AM
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I would 100% call it evil and anyone who has even the slightest empathy for the men in this situation would see it so. I know most women are incapable of this so just pretend it's a lesbian relationship. How would you feel if one of the women had no idea their partner isn't attracted to them? You would think they feel so ugly and unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 12:59 AM
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Yes I've known that for a long time but thank you for assuming my ignorance because I'm a man. 🙄 A year is a small period of time in all the parenting a child needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 12:57 AM
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You don't understand. The ball is in both men and women's court. It's not the personal failure of either. This is a societal issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 12:55 AM
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You think the issue for these men can be for a variety of reasons and yet the only reasons you provided are they're undisciplined, egotistical, lazy, and inconsiderate, basically evil. You're still going on about how men should change to be better. They're inconsiderate of their spouses by excusing themselves from household and childcare responsibilities. What I'm trying to get you to understand is there are many things society can do to support men instead of viewing men as broken women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 12:54 AM
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It's hard to prove intentional malice. Women could 100% weasel out of it by claiming they didn't know they were pregnant. I think the best solution is women must declare their pregnancy to the government in order to be eligible for child support. It's the only way I see to incentivize both women and men being informed. One problem I see with this is the potential for abusive men to retaliate against women who they find out are pregnant. A lot of women have to hide for their own safety and this i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 12:49 AM
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I disagree. I think feminism has conditioned women to think they're vastly oppressed and they must be such better people than men who have it so easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 12:41 AM
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Yes because these men are so stupid hahaha!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:52 AM
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Marrying someone you don't find sexually attractive is so deceitful and evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:51 AM
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What explanation could there be for why men weren't more involved as parents besides them being stupid? Or why they don't go to the DR besides being stupid? Whenever I hear these things said, I could never it as anything but saying men are stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:50 AM
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Even in your attempt to be empathetic to men's issues, you still frame it so that it's completely their own personal failure. "If only men could be good parents, then they wouldn't have to make so much money!" This entire thread is a fucking joke but I appreciate women's honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:48 AM
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I think it's inconsiderate of you to frame men not being concerned for their own health as them feeling emasculated when the reality is it's them feeling they are disposable. Also, there is no such thing as positive masculinity or toxic masculinity. Just toxic gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:46 AM
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So most men's problems are the result of being easily manipulated or stupid, reckless, and toxic? Great.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:42 AM
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How is it lazy and entitled to think things should be fair? Duh, life isn't fair but that doesn't mean we shouldn't aspire to make it so as much as possible. Isn't that the whole basis of things like feminism (supposedly) and dismantling discrimination / prejudice?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:41 AM
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Well we don't live in an ideal world. Sometimes we don't get to make the most ideal choice. Sometimes, we have to make sacrifices in one area for the greater good in another. One example is taking a job you don't care but has large financial compensation to better provide for your family. This is something I believe women aren't taught because they're taught to pursue their happiness above all else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:35 AM
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🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:33 AM
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Men take their health less seriously because we are taught to not value ourselves, that we are disposable and only exist to serve others. Men are socially groomed to being judged 24/7, just not by their appearance for the most part. This thread has enlightened me that women really think men are inferior morally and in competency. That men are so egotistic and inconsiderate to the point of being borderline evil. That women have zero recognition or respect for anything men are competent in. This w…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:28 AM
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I think to an even larger extent, women are conditioned to believe that men are morally inferior. Therefore, when men simply exist, women devalue it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:25 AM
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So all your reasons boil down to men aren't are undisciplined (1), have large egos (2), are lazy and inconsiderate of others. How convenient that men are evil. Do you think there is a possibility that the socialization of men encourages different prioritizations? Maybe financial providing as an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:24 AM
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They're not picky about kindness and moral character because these characteristics are not what makes their pussies tingle.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:20 AM
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Who's giving men the just be nice advice? What demographic of people? Hmmm I feel like it's on the tip of my tongue...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:18 AM
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Women have infinitely more free time to fuck off in their rooms playing with their makeup for hours while they're reluctant and avoidant when it comes to working their fucking job to get more money for their responsibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:16 AM
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Do you think working out is easy?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:13 AM
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That would be well deserved. If all the men in the trades were replaced by women, the efficiency would go way down and thus so would the compensation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:07 AM
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Financial compensation is not determined by value provided to society. You're a grown adult you should know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 04:05 AM
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I think both parents deserve to have time with their children and I see no reason for women to be defaulted to have more of that time than in the very small period of breastfeeding. I'll never have kids with a woman that makes less money than me so she force me to provide for her while she parents my kids. I suspect that 90% of women are hypergamous and would never purposefully have kids with a man that makes as much money as them so I understand most women can't meet my standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 03:06 AM
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This guy is being intentionally dense. I feel bad for you that you engaged with that thing. The flair is a dead giveaway of his ridiculousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 02:59 AM
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How does makeup not make up someone more attractive? It literally hides your imperfect skin to make it look like the glowing perfect skin of a baby. What makes people attractive are things that indicate good health like good skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 02:54 AM
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This is not a gender swapped version because those children are still hers. She is not traumatized by their existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 02:46 AM
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What if you had to receive a sperm donation. Would you feel bad if you eventually found out that the sperm guy completely ignored all protocols and decided to use his own sperm?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 02:41 AM
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The problem with this is placing the entire burden of proof on men. Attempting to inform the pregnant party in writing of dissent to have a child is a good idea but women are under no legal obligation to inform the father of her pregnancy. She could show up 9 months later demanding child support without you knowing. Maybe women should be required to notify the father of her pregnancy if she wants to be eligible for child support. The problem with that is there's a very small chance that a woman …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 02:39 AM
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I wouldn't want to be a stay at home father. I would resent having to work more hours to provide for someone to parent my own child that I barely ever get to see. Parenting is hard and even though I've never been one, I believe it has to be the most rewarding experience someone could have.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 08:10 PM
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You can choose to vet better. Let me give you a tip. Quiet does not mean someone has good morals. Polite does not mean considerate or nurturing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:35 AM
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Oh I read his comment. It didn't come across as victim blaming at all or saying it's women's fault that some people are abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:32 AM
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Physical power means nothing in civilized society. Women have more social power than men. That's the only power that matters for us. Therefore, women are more powerful right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 05:30 AM
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Friend, seriously, where the fuck do women get off constantly criticizing men how they should be act and be for women? Your post was full of positivity until that last sentence ruined it. It's such a backhanded thing to say. If only men could just be good enough for women. I've noticed this behavior in almost all women and you're no exception. They walk with a certain smugness that they're so superior to men. Flip the genders and you'd see what's so fucked up about it. I wanted and found a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:47 AM
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If I have a baby I want my attention to be on them and to give them all of my time and love. I feel the same way as a man. I can't imagine ever being the sole provider and I would probably resent or envy her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:43 AM
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If only us men could ever be as morally superior as you women. We just don't get it. We're too misogynistic! Why do you think males are like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:23 AM
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We already know that's what women think of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:14 AM
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This is not true. These studies are biased and geared towards recognizing empathy in women coded behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:11 AM
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Does not sound like hypocrisy to me. Maybe worry more about people's morals than their bank account.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:10 AM
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I disagree that this is typical behavior. The vast majority of men I interact with do not do these things. These are very abnormal behaviors but they are memorable so that's probably why you think they're common.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:08 AM
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It's not taking accountability for another person's actions but accountability of your recovery from said person's actions. No one is saying you deserved to have that happen to you, but what choice do you have afterwards to do except take responsibility of your recovery? I can whine all day about men's issues but at the end of the day no one gives a fuck, not men or women and I have to save myself no one is coming to help me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:06 AM
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Women can do no wrong according to feminists like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:02 AM
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You don't get it either. That's also fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:02 AM
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Look it's very sad and I'm not saying it's easy but they have to try.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:01 AM
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So it's better to stay in it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 03:59 AM
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None of things are normal or acceptable reasonable behavior in civilized society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 03:58 AM
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Normal well adjusted adults do not throw things or have temper tantrums. This is not normal behavior and a glaring red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 03:57 AM
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Lmao a women actually admits women are hypergamous. Crazy the lengths many will go to deny an obvious reality. If only these women focused that dedication and effort towards bettering themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 12:46 AM
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Likewise, men prioritize status because women are hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 07:01 PM
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Honesty is good but that doesn't mean people have to like what you're honest about. I can honest that I think you're a dumbass but you wouldn't be wrong to be mad about that would you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:57 PM
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I 100% believe you that this is your preference but you do understand that you are in the very minuscule exception of women right? Even the most feminism women hold severe gender role expectations for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:55 PM
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The woman in the post admits that average woman are not attracted to average men. We can talk about how the average man is disgusting while the woman is heavenly, but that's beside the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:53 PM
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No it's not. Fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 01:13 AM
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Yes I'm sure you know better than me as a man what the expectations are as a man. You're the morally superior gender after all so why even stop for a second to think you might be wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 01:12 AM
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I think you're being willfully ignorant of how men are pressured to be providers and sacrifice for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:58 AM
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It's hilarious watching you try to womansplain something you don't have a single clue about. Please continue!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 10:33 PM
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Traditional cultures are both misogynistic and misandrist. You seem to think it's only one but you haven't experienced the misandry. Let's ignore all the unfair expectations that men have in these cultures to maintain our position as the victims. Glad you feel that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 09:40 PM
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Men aren't disposable but society sure treats them as such. Now you can go ahead and prove my point by saying men built society and patriarchy and blah blah. I don't understand what your argument is? That if you were targeted first for being the biggest woman, then misandry doesn't exist? The biggest person is usually a man so the end result is the same. The man is the one targeted.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 09:39 PM
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Most likely another man. You should understand what internalized misandry is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 09:35 PM
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You don't pose the same physical threat because he's a man. You're so close to getting it. You could be a man or a woman acting the exact same way in society and the man is at much higher risk of violence simply because he's a man. Women take advantage of when they exist out in the world with a man. You have a disposable meat shield. There's nothing you can do about it but just recognize your privilege at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:39 PM
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So it's inconsiderate to force her to adapt to how men deal with problems but you think men should adapt to how women handle problems? Your misandry is showing. This reminds of me how women tell men to just go to therapy as a way to diminish men's issues. They ignore that the majority of therapists are women who studied textbooks that centered around women and now treat primarily women. It's delusional to think therapy isn't biased against men and properly addresses their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:30 PM
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You're safer because of him. He's not safer because of you. If someone wanted to assault both of you, they're targeting him first because he made the mortal sin of being born a man. Misandry and male disposability is what keeps you safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:28 PM
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The misandry is not recognizing that we live in a society that makes this 10x harder for men because societal norms abhor male emotional expressions. You're privileged as a woman to not be aware of this. Enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:27 PM
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By who? Some misogynistic fathers? Why do you ignore that the Latina women are misandrist between themselves? Homophobia is rooted in misandry, not misogyny. Male sexuality has been demonized for as long as men have been alive. This is not about you, check your privilege. Sex isn't the cure to male loneliness. Go argue with the misandrist you spoke to about that because I didn't say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:25 PM
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Any woman who expects her man to be her protection is perpetuating male disposability. End of.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:24 PM
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Nah, go for boyish or normal. She'll look curvy after pregnancy. Think about the long term. Curvy becomes fat after pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:20 PM
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I feel sexually assaulted when a fat woman approaches me. Why do fat women approach fit men? What gave them the audacity to think we're equals?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:07 PM
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Funny because I see it the other way around. Fat women think they deserve fit men for some reason. Female entitlement is crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:04 PM
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Just because he lifts doesn't mean he can fight. Even for people who can fight, the best move is to run. Training for a marathon is the best physical training you can do to protect yourself. Also, ew not the misandry of seeing your partner as disposable and needing him to save you in an emergency.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:02 PM
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Cuban women are no exception. Female in-group bias exists in every country. It's ingrained into women to prefer each other. The bisexual thing is homophobia and most homophobia is rooted in misandry. You keep talking about this idea that men just want to use women's bodies but no matter how much you demonize men won't make that the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 06:51 PM
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Misandry, so hot right now. Feminists are disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 06:48 PM
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Or it could just be that they're not used to feeling safe even if it is safe. If the majority of the time, it's not safe to be vulnerable, it can be hard to vulnerable the few times it is. Men aren't robots that can just flip an on or off switch. You really think men sit down and think, "hmm I can't give up my precious power"? You're attributing malice to human beings for no other reason than misandry. You're heavily mistaken. The entire point is to allow women to be emotionally open because wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 04:29 AM
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That's just internalized misandry that society/feminism manipulates men into so they're successfully cucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 01:38 AM
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Men need to wake up that women don't care so they realize no one is coming to save them and it's on us to save ourselves. The problem is the society that enforces the "women are beautiful" bias to pedastilize women and make men hate themselves. It's the only way to keep them in check. Fortunately, the mental gymnastics that feminism has to make to keep the lie up becomes harder and harder to pull off as the current social climate for men worsens.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 01:36 AM
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Two valid reasons: Society enforces internalized misandry onto men. Feminism successfully deluded men into thinking it's the answer for equality. That there is no need for men's rights activism because if men advocate hard enough for women's issues, then it'll solve men's issues. "The patriarchy hurts men too!" they say. It's similar to raeganomics. Just help us out I swear and it'll trickle down to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 01:32 AM
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It's the first step towards solving it. Once we realize women genuinely don't care, we have no choice but to look towards each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 12:57 AM
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Your wish has come true. Part of why I can't take women's issues seriously is because women have a real knack for twisting men's issues into some sort of misogyny. If you portray all men as brainless bots who do nothing but whine about not having enough sex and being homophobic, then that's all you'll see. By the way, I'm inclined to believe women are more homophobic than men. If you disagree, explain why the majority of women have such an averse disgust reaction to bisexuality in men? They are …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 12:33 AM
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You act like it's so easy as if men don't live in a culture that hates their emotional expression. You act like men are born emotionally neutered and they don't choose to be that way as a reaction to the society they're in. Each generation can willfully perpetuate a little less misandry and while the progress is slow, at least it's something.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 12:05 AM
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That doesn't matter because they wouldn't do it. Men need to learn to not give a fuck what women think. It's the only way we can get out from under their thumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 12:02 AM
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I think feminism and society overall have successfully ingrained internalized misandry into men. This is why women have a severe in-group bias while men have a bias towards women. Men can't expect to support feminism and have that reciprocated. Women will never care about men's issues. Only men can save each other. Men should not give one fuck about women's issues when our house is on fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 12:00 AM
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What is one thing that women have had to mom men out of? Your last sentence is offensive to men for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 11:55 PM
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The red pill and MRA are both fringe corners of the internet. They are irrelevant in real life except to give feminists another scapegoat next to patriarchy and maintain their delusion that feminism is some niche underground movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 05:49 AM
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Men will goon over anything so unless you're wearing one of those Afghanistan outfits then there are still some attractive parts they see. Remember how some school policies forbad girls from showing shoulder?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 09:20 PM
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Okay so what's wrong with a birthing draft then? It's not like we would ever use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 09:18 PM
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Fuck if I know but I'm just tired of the discussion always being like men gotta do this and men gotta do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 09:18 PM
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Please upvote so I can spread my racism more efficiently.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 09:11 PM
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You will be sexualized regardless of what you're wearing. Don't let people control what you wear.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 09:09 PM
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Actually the fog is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 09:05 PM
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They don't exist anywhere. Women aren't tasty like a cow or chicken is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 09:01 PM
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Swallow his load.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:59 PM
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It wouldn't have been a turn off for me until the patriarchy/feminism part. I just know she's going to be a headache to be in a relationship with because she'll play the victim at every turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:56 PM
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I want to have sex with your opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:53 PM
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This is some incel behavior please seek therapy sweaty.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:51 PM
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I like knowing I have the power to change that for you but I won't because it would make both of feel bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:50 PM
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How is my comment sexist? I'm protesting the internalized misogyny that society encourages in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:47 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:46 PM
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Mfer once caught me washing my hands and asks me why and I point to the instructions on the bottle that explain how it's toxic or some shi and he's like you can't work in this job if you read that stuff. I have a love hate relationship with the behavior in trade work. One part of me is like "hell yea" and the other part is like "guys it's not weak if we're a little careful"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:44 PM
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They aren't but we live in a feminist society that encourages learned helplessness in women so effectively the result is most confidence and assertiveness is found in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:35 PM
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I couldn't give less of a fuck about this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:34 PM
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Women and men are both the protectors of women. No one protects boys/men because of male disposability.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:33 PM
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A is normal. B ain't even a hoe yet but she's working her way towards certification.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:29 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/r65fh6n1jyje1.png?width=1871&format=png&auto=webp&s=1540a2ccfb29e7a11ab82ce4903a01a201f12f77
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:27 PM
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I reported you for sexism too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:16 PM
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Nah fuck them bitches. Goofy ahh market. I am the market. I'll set their expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 08:15 PM
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Sowwy bout it! I'll call the waambulance straight away!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 07:47 PM
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Browse for r/askfeminists and this is the message you'd pick up. I've never watched right wing content but it is interesting how you view any dissent to your feminist ideology as evil right wing content. How is my opinion any different than the way feminists talk about men as an undefined "they" and ascribe bad motives onto?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 07:45 PM
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Yes because you hold the view that men are such angels to each other and if only we treated women like men then misogyny would go poof.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 07:02 PM
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That seems messed up to not just be honest and say you don't want to go out on a date, but we live in a misandrist society where obviously he was going to viscerally rape her in the middle of the mall surrounded by people if she had said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 07:01 PM
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I'm not. I think all women who say things like, "Men should treat us like they treat their fellow men" are ignorant of men's relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 06:57 PM
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Correct She should leave. I don't shame women for leaving horrible men. I shame women who expect perfectionism out of relationships. Nothing in this world worth having comes easy. That includes a loving relationship. You'll need adversity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 06:55 PM
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That is first the result of capability. Women don't have as much capacity to be outwardly violent than men. Women are more social conditioned to be "violent" in other ways such as through manipulation, shame, and social ostracism. It's also why women are much more likely to poison their partners than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 06:53 PM
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Isn't that what women already do? Remember, only your happiness matters nothing else. Fuck them kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 06:18 PM
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Are you actually interested in learning? Why? https://np.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/vbixv0/why_men_commit_more_violent_crime
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 06:12 PM
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Feminism controls the zeitgeist. It reduces the voice of male rights. Feminists tell men to form their own groups because feminists think women's issues are more important and feminists shouldn't help men. Feminists started this so I don't see why you have a problem with men not wanting to be feminists or even being anti-feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 06:09 PM
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I mean retaliating as in calling the police or seeking help. Men can't even do that because we know how social dynamics work. Feminism is not about equality. Feminism is for women. Men should worry about male rights first because we worry about feminism. Put our fire out first.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 06:04 PM
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The difference is feminist views men as oppressors therefore they view benevolent sexism as privilege as part of their tactic to demonize men. This is actually the greatest example of benevolent sexism there is, the belief that men are almighty gods of the world and have full control. This is called hyper agency. Meanwhile, women are treated with hypo-agency. This is actually the root cause of all misogyny is hypo-agency and even feminists perpetuate this with their ideology of the patriarchy th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:57 PM
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Internalized misandry is why men commit much more crime. It's the same reason why black on black crime is so high. There are many factors as to why men commit more crime and why black men commit the most crime but none of them have to do with men or black men being inherently worse people than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:52 PM
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I think you're naive and ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:51 PM
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Our culture is no different. Our women benefit from benevolent sexism just as much as Ukrainian women. Women don't think like that so why should men? Why must you die for your country instead of fucking off and partying in Europe?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:50 PM
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Then women also have privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:48 PM
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It's not changing. Men are still in deep fear of retaliating against their abusers because men are aware of how the social dynamics look to outsiders. Men are demonized first and questioned later. Men should not be feminists. Men should be anti-feminists. Feminism's gynocentric worldview leaves no space for men's issues to be valued in an equal light.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:48 PM
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I appreciate your egalitarian view. It's both a privilege and benevolent sexism. I argue just to get people to view men and women as equal but you're already there. This is weird because I don't usually get to this point in a conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:43 PM
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No birthing draft = no oppression. I'm sorry but I refuse to place women as being as oppressed as men until your bodily autonomy is actually taken away from you the same as it is for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:37 PM
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I agree with you but this isn't relevant. This woman is saying this situation is not an example of benevolent sexism and women are looked at as tools the same way as men are. This is not true because there is no birthing draft for women. There is an actual draft for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:36 PM
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Okay well you just decided that you are better qualified to decide something over me just because I'm a man. Why are you being sexist right now? We can play this game all day long. I'm well versed in feminist conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:33 PM
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That would be internalized misandry. It comes from believing men are lesser than and unworthy of recognization as human beings but rather tools to provide resources and when we step out of that role, we must whip each other back into it through violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:32 PM
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No but feminists incorrectly believe men have privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:31 PM
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For a specific example, in domestic abuse, police procedures are biased to default to males as perpetrators. Women's cultural power means their opinion matters more. For a general example, look at how feminism dominates academia, politics, and the zeitgeist. There is no space for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:30 PM
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To each other? Yes we are. In general? No men aren't horrible. If you think internalized misogyny is bad, internalized misandry is 10x worse. Women have an extreme in-group bias towards women. Men have an in-group bias towards women. There is no other explanation besides men hate each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:28 PM
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Do women do chivalry? Do women signal to men they are safe or an upstanding woman? No they don't. If men do things and women don't then I don't know a better example of sucking up. Yes, I'm a gender abolitionist. Most of the ways we treat women better comes from their cultural position, it's not inherent to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:26 PM
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Do you think if the draft was ever initiated, it would be any different than in Ukraine? Do you think our culture is so different where men are respected as human beings on the same level as women and wouldn't be shipped off simply for having superior physical strength?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:23 PM
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I don't know the solution, but I know it involves women changing their behavior, not just men. Too often, the discussion is what men need to do better, men are the problem etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:22 PM
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Yes women's sexuality is so divine and sophisticated compared to men's. Totally not misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:17 PM
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It inherently is. Chivalry is sucking up to women literally just because they have a vagina. There is nothing more sexist than treating someone differently based off what they have in their pants. Don't give me that physical strength argument. Women are more than capable of opening doors.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:16 PM
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Why do women get to choose between themselves who gives birth and who doesn't? The government should get to choose the most fertile ones to do so. It's not like men get to choose who goes off to war and who doesn't. The government gets to choose the most fit ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:15 PM
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It could happen any time. Let's look at Ukraine. All the men stayed and died while all the women got to run off to Europe and party. So if the draft is pointless, then why are you arguing women are being discriminated against by not being a part of it because their personal merit is being written off? Do you honestly think women today are looking at not being a part of the draft and feeling sad about it? They have an endless supply of feminism to uplift their egos. The draft looking down on them…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:14 PM
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It's not a threat. I wouldn't want you to live as a man. You being threatened by it shows to me that you fear if this was your reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:12 PM
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This is the biggest privilege of all. It has just enough plausible deniability to not be recognized. That's why it's my main gripe. It's hard to remove it because women have spent millennia placing themselves into this position and you can't undue it in a weekend.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:11 PM
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So that means men have no privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:09 PM
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Chivalry is sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:08 PM
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If privilege cannot exist unless there is no downsides, then men have no privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:07 PM
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For me, my main gripe is the social power that women have. Women dictate our cultural norms. Men are just the outsiders. I feel like it's their world and we're just living in it. Women's opinions carry a lot more consideration in social dynamics than men's. I'm sick of having to tip toe around them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:04 PM
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Women aren't seen as tools like men are. There is no birthing draft where the government decides that you must have a child. If you view sending men off to war as acceptable because they are born with enhanced physical strength, then you must view forcing pregnancy on women because they have the tools to do so. The latter is not a thing that happens. Please stop diminishing institutional male oppression with a both sides suffer argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 05:01 PM
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Feminists worldview is that we live in a patriarchy, men are oppressors, and women are oppressed. Their ideology is gynocentric, where all problems are viewed as to how women are affected. This is why they talk about toxic masculinity and not internalized misandry or benevolent sexism and not female privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:56 PM
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Okay so let's examine the sexism. Women are having their personal merit easily written off. Men are literally being shipped off and fucking dying. Which is worse? Benevolent sexism is a joke compared to hostile sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:54 PM
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I doubt you're ready. You have no idea how men treat each other. A woman who is treated equally would be fucked. Internalized misandry runs so deep it's not even funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:52 PM
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What?? I did not threaten you. What a fucking leap. The point was that men experience hostile sexism. Women experience benevolent sexism. Men are getting the far worse treatment because hostile sexism is worse. Why don't YOU stop being sexist? Is it so hard? Benevolent sexism exists as just a way for feminists to maintain that all problems are really infractions against women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:51 PM
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Women do both. There are lots of women that treat sex as a transactional thing to get men to do what they want. You want to live in lalala land and pretend this doesn't happen often.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:49 PM
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They fly too close to the sun and purposely fuck up their lives because they've already achieved everything a human can achieve and realize it's all meaningless anyway. An average man will spend his whole life with the goal of status and love. A celebrity man achieves that in their early 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:15 PM
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Isn't this what women already do? Literally the first thing a man is asked on this site when he complains his wife doesn't show attraction towards him is if he's doing enough dishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:11 PM
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People only use it to undermine *sexism against men*. You will never hear benevolent sexism as a phrase used for men. What feminists fail to understand through their gynocentric ideology is that the flip side of all benevolent sexism is hostile sexism. For every example of benevolent sexism towards women, exists hostile sexism towards men. Hostile sexism is much worse than benevolent sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:08 PM
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Women are so weak compared to men. Only reason I can think of as to why they're so much more scared of rejection than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:05 PM
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Only when it benefits them. Are you new to feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:02 PM
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I'm not going to go over every instance of how society is deeply misandrist with you. If you're interested, go look in r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates. You're part of the oppressor sex so you'll just dismiss it all anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 12:10 AM
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Now look at their equivalent women. Women carry fat a lot better than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 12:09 AM
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She'll birth my kids so who really won in the long term me or chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 12:08 AM
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No she should enjoy her life. What makes you cuck is accepting a relationship with her where she's not even attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 12:05 AM
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You're so right. We know that men desire women drastically more than women desire men. The primary thing men should vet for in a woman is her raw attraction to him or else that rightful insecurity will creep up in all aspects of the relationship and ruin it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 12:00 AM
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Yes conveniently, the solution is always for men to change. Never is the solution to a problem for women to change. It's always the patriarchy/men/society.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:55 PM
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You're so eager to label me a misogynist. I never even insinuated that there is something wrong with women. Also, I believe men's attraction towards women is more than just a higher sex drive. You're trying to diminish it for some reason. There is no solution to this problem. We can only accept that dating is a lot harder for men due to this imbalance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:54 PM
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Yes they do lmao. You're just trying to manipulate me to think otherwise like I'd expect any woman would. You participate in society don't you? You participate in misandrist norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:51 PM
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My female relatives don't have the internalized misogyny to teach me that. Their misandry prevents them from looking out for my safety over their groupthink with other women. Most women are manipulative. This is why women have a drastic in-group bias towards other women. It's in their best interest to oppress men for their own gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:50 PM
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Damn I feel for you bro. I'm not even going to give you that blue pill bullshit that's like just be yourself and make friends cause the reality is even friends will mistreat you for being ugly. The only positive you have is from being an outsider, you have no obligations to no one and full freedom to live however the fuck you want. If you want to be scary, that's all you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:48 PM
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You're exactly the sort of woman I hope dies out. You're going to completely fuck up any boy you have. Please don't procreate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:45 PM
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That's funny because the world I was raised in, men are treated with the hyperagency bias while women are treated with hypo agency bias. Men are considered masters of the world and all their problems can be solved by themselves. Women are told all problems are the fault of society/men/patriarchy and there is nothing they can do to improve themselves beside dismantle patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:43 PM
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I disagree. I think fatness harms men a lot more than women. Fat women are still flattering to look at. The fat accentuates their softness. Fat men have the main qualities in the attractiveness of a man taken away from them. The fat hides their jawline, sharp shoulders, and chest.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:42 PM
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Feminists try not to blame every single problem in the world on patriarchy challenge (IMPOSSIBLE!)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:38 PM
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Wow the solution to a dating problem is men changing their behavior. Why am I not shocked?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:37 PM
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I believe all women are threats to men and have the capacity to ruin the lives of men whenever they so please through their manipulative conniving ways. Does that make a misogynist? Your logic would say it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:30 PM
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Women oppress men all the time on the basis of sex. Women participate in society. Society oppresses men. Therefore, women have a part in the oppression of men. Rape and murder isn't the only measure of oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:29 PM
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I believe they were trying to protect you too but also that they were spreading harmful misandrist ideas. The majority of men are dealing with internalized misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:24 PM
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Yes there is. The entirety of human history and interactions prove mine. I've never met a single woman that wasn't a misandrist. Some are more explicit in it while the least misandrist ones still are subconsciously.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:22 PM
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My bad that I assumed that about you and I agree he was just taking a jab at women's physical strength.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:21 PM
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So you believe misogynists? That's an L
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:56 PM
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The misandrist insinuated women are too weak to commit violence against men. You responded to them that this is why female-on-male violence will never be taken seriously. I've noticed a lot of women think it's perfectly fine to dismiss violence against men because some men with internalized misandry are dismissive of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:56 PM
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So is feminism. Two sides of the same coin.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:42 PM
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Most women are feminists and the ones who aren't don't go out of their way to disagree with feminists so it's a safe assumption to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:40 PM
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So it's a lie we've been fed our whole lives this image of a scared helpless woman being tied down by a man who controls her finances?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:39 PM
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Nah I responded to you. A lot of women see men with internalized misandry dismiss men's issues like domestic violence from women and see it as an excuse to not self reflect their attitudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:38 PM
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All women are bitter, diminishing, manipulative misandrists to some degree. Men sell their bodies for labor all for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:36 PM
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Could say the same about feminism. There are thousands of different definitions for feminism and patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:31 PM
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Red pill for men is giving them the truth about women and they are free to do with that information as they please whether it's going their own way, spinning plates, or accepting the drawbacks and deciding that monogamy is worth it even if they have to constantly pass tests and hold frame.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:31 PM
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Noble masculinity is a scam. It's servitude. Can you think of an example of noble/positive masculinity that is not men providing for women in some way? If you can't, that shows what a scam it is. It's all just about the exploitation of men for the benefit of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:28 PM
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Nah men get salty when they realize they have to work 10x harder to get to the same place in dating value they would if they were a woman. Not fair but it is what it is. It means men are generally better people since they battle through adversity while women are just placed there. You guys have no character arc. Couldn't be me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:16 PM
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I wish I had a vagina. I would be worth so much more as a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:15 PM
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Yes they are. It's just that their vagina severely raises their value. The value of a penis is very low. A fit man and a fat woman are equal in value.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:14 PM
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Nope but if all you can pull is fat bitches or stay lonely, that's a sad realization for a lot of straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:13 PM
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I love you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:12 PM
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Men's clothing is boxy because men are shaped boxy. It's not some grand conspiracy to hide fatness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:11 PM
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Fat women are sex offenders. I see them and I'm sexually offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:09 PM
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All men are disgusting and hurtful. Women are wonderful. Great point!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:07 PM
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It would be nice for everyone to tremble in my terrifying presence but it'd get old and lonely quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:07 PM
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The only incentive women still have with men is that the majority of women want children and a family.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:05 PM
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This is just internalized misandry. I forgive them for it because they are men in pain. I'm a lot less sympathetic to misandrists since they come from a place of privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:03 PM
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This ain't it. Being a man is a big part of our identity. We need to stand together and have the same in-group bias for each other that women have between themselves. This is the only way we can ever be respected in society. Your method is simply pulling the ladder out from under you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:01 PM
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Bro is fearmaxxing lol, but why?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:59 PM
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Mfers see one misandrist and then use that to justify their own misandrist world view.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:53 PM
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Why does that matter? Will the bullet hurt less if the trigger is pulled by a woman and not a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:51 PM
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Also when men's behavior is policed for the comfort of women. Women are entitled to feel anyway they want to feel. They can feel a guy is creepy for daring to exist in the same sidewalk as them. My problem is expecting that guy to cross the street, keep his head down, maybe fake being in a call, all to make himself seem as small as possible so he can be one of the good ones. If a man isn't doing anything wrong, he shouldn't feel bad for not catering to someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:48 PM
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Like I just fucking said, not every guy has to be the epitome of chad, but almost all women prefer performative masculinity to some degree. It can be as little as expecting him to pay for dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:32 PM
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Not all women expect the most extreme version of masculine frame or chad as you call it but almost all women expect some degree of it. It's not all bad but personally I don't see it worth it to live in performative masculinity to fulfill her fantasy and maintain her attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 07:47 PM
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Men have this insecurity because women aren't as attracted to men as men are to women. He has to be making up for this discrepancy in someway in a relationship to maintain her attraction to him. I think you want to spin it that men are just itching to abuse women so that's why they date down.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 07:40 PM
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Is it really being a shallow bitch? You can't negotiate attraction. It can't be changed. Women are attracted to masculinity, extreme confidence borderline egotistical, stoicism, mentally resilient men that provide safety and security. There are exceptions but this is generally what women are attracted to. Straight men already have the hardest chances out of anyone in dating. Now imagine being an egalitarian straight man not willing to be in the masculine frame at all times? Again, this isn't the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 07:34 PM
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Men are obsessed with "dating down" because it's very difficult for women to appreciate men in equal relationships since women aren't as attracted to men as men are attracted to women. Women have admitted to me that they would never date someone mentally weaker than them. There is always a weaker person in a relationship. That person is usually the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 07:06 PM
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Compared to women? When is the last time a woman is told to self improve? Women are told all their problems is because men are disgusting pigs and men are just not good enough anymore. That's literally the epitome of externalizing your dating issues. The assumption that you're perfect and need to change nothing about yourself except vetting better is toxic to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 07:02 PM
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Do you think this is more common in men or women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 07:01 PM
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I think it's really strange we think men aren't doing these things. You have to remember that we simply assume men don't do these things when they ask for advice. Society has a women are beautiful bias and demonizes men so we assume men are disgusting until proven otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 07:00 PM
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You actually think men have learned helplessness while women are taught they have full agency of their lives?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 06:59 PM
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The answer is simple. Men are attracted to women much more than women are attracted to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 06:56 PM
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So if we have no choice but to accept this to be true, then I'll also add this for thought. Since men have to grind so much harder than women just to get to the same place, men are simply better human beings. Adversity makes someone a better person because they can easily emphasize with those with struggles. Straight women don't have character arcs like straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 06:55 PM
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Men raising their standards isn't going to cause women to suddenly desire men as much as men desire women. Women's attraction to men is simply nonexistent comparative to men's for women. No behavioral changes from men can undue how women experience attraction. Attraction isn't negotiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 06:52 PM
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Straight men have the least mutual attraction between any two groups. Gay men love each other. Gay women love each other. Straight men love women. Straight women's attraction to straight men is nothing comparatively. I'm not blaming women. That's just the way they're born. It does mean that straight men have the hardest path to attraction and have to work three times as hard as any other group in relationships to maintain attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 06:49 PM
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Lmfao like did I wake up in an alternate reality? One where women are the ones attributed a sense of hyper agency? It's men who are told they are gods of their environment. Women are taught learned helplessness, not men. I don't understand how women don't see this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 06:46 PM
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If I'm deranged, what are feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 09:46 PM
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You talk about how men being protective of women sucks for women because it takes away from their agency. You ignore that no one is protective of men so they face more violence and die more from it. What is so confusing to you? If you want, give me other examples of benevolent sexism and how it's such a terrible thing for women to experience and for example I'll show the flip side of that how it harms men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 09:24 PM
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Take your own example about how benevolent sexism hurts women because it takes away from their agency. The hostile sexism to that is men are literally fucking dying over women. Do you fail to see which is worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 09:13 PM
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All your criticisms of me. Apply that same energy to feminism's favorite boogeyman, the patriarchy. Do some good work. "Exclusively blame men instead of other women for problems in society." -Patriarchy myth summed up. I did actually make a good point though. Do you fail to see that the flip side of the coin to all examples of benevolent sexism is hostile sexism?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 08:53 PM
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Lmfao you think I verbally abused you because I dared suggest that women can't womansplain the male experience. This is the entitlement of going your whole life thinking you're part of the morally superior gender. He found her attractive to some degree. Probably not attractive enough for him to marry but he's not fucking just because. Why waste all that energy for nothing? What he's getting out of it is a nut. Yes duh men have a higher standard for physical attractiveness for relationships. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 08:50 PM
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Okay?? Talk about the exception. When you think of a someone being called the n word who you do picture in your mind? A black man. Ain't no way you're going to act like it's not targeted towards black men. Do me a favor and never talk about benevolent sexism about women ever again without mentioning the hostile sexism about men. Benevolent sexism is an entirely gynocentric concept. No one ever talks about benevolent sexism towards men because we don't live in a fucking delusion that all problems…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 08:44 PM
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American racism mostly harms black men not women. That's why black women never get called the n word. It's only used against black men. The accused being a man had just as much a part to play in it. In cultural power it goes like this: white women >>> white men = black women >>> black men. Nah ain't no way you tried to talk about benevolent sexism. This is the problem with feminism. You guys are only concerned about women. You live in a gynocentric world. Have you stopped to consider for even on…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 08:39 PM
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Yeah it does. How the fuck would you know you're just a woman you don't know jack shit about the male experience or how men think. I'm telling you as a man if he's sleeping with a woman then he finds her attractive. The problem is you think that just because he finds her attractive it means he also respects her. That's why they'll fuck women they find attractive while thinking she's a whore or a bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 08:34 PM
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Enjoy being a delusional feminist obsessed with breaking the glass ceiling while ignoring all the homeless men. We need to pump those numbers up for ya'll #morehomelesswomen
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 08:28 PM
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You're right. I can see how people can live completely privileged easy lives and still be good parents. I just gotta give credit to my people who start from the bottom and now they're here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 08:24 PM
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I'm not talking about the law. The case can be dismissed and the man's life will still be ruined because women hold all the cultural and social power. Women also rape men and yet the narrative doesn't work so your argument falls flat. Why doesn't it work? Because again women hold all the cultural and social power. Who gives a fuck if a man accuses a woman?? What narrative can he spin that will cause everyone in her life to ostracize her? He can't tell people that she whistled at him and then tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 08:21 PM
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But do you endorse men doing that like you endorsed that woman for doing so?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 08:19 PM
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It was an analogy. Women are not in control of this society. No matter how many times you try to say the patriarchy is real doesn't make it so. The top 0.001% are not men. They are evil aliens sent by unnatural space demons to enslave us. Elon and Trump are not men. Look at the rest of society and you'll see women have more power than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 08:18 PM
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This is bull. Most women are in relationships with men they don't find attractive. Women will enter these relationships and then wonder why they're not satisfied. I've never heard of a man willfully entering a relationship with a woman he isn't attracted to because of other factors while not recognizing that it's a transactional relationship. These women are full on delusional thinking they'll grow attraction or something. We need to stop feeding women these ideas that their attraction is much m…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 08:13 PM
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Who cares who created it? That means nothing to who updated it. Women control it now and they've updated it to their whims. If I start a business and then I make you a partner and then I eventually sell my shares to you, you run it now not me. Any problems with the business are not mine just because I created it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 08:03 PM
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Are you going to ignore institutional misandry and rampant internalized misandry? Do you also believe that black on black crime is entirely the fault of black people? Are you capable of recognizing that men are not almighty beings and they are in fact susceptible to societal pressures the same as everyone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 08:01 PM
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You can shit on those men without endorsing women to shun out men. If you weren't a misandrist, you would've brought up that the vast majority of men are not sex pests. You ignored me by the way so is it okay for a man to shun women if he meets one shitty women and then thinks all women are like that? If you answer no, you're a hypocrite since you said it's okay for her to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:58 PM
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Anything can be considered evidence if you're manipulative enough to create a narrative. Women have social power over men therefore it's a lot easier to create a narrative for your false accusation. It's laughable to think a man could ever pull this off because a man's accusation of a woman holds little weight. All women have the capacity to pull this off but the vast majority of women are good people and wouldn't. My point is not every woman but always a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:57 PM
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The oppressors are those in power. Women are in power. Therefore they are the oppressors.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:54 PM
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Yes it is oppression. So you think teachers being biased in grades against boys compared to girls is not oppression? Yes I can that the underrepresentation is caused by women. Who else would it be caused by? Fucking aliens? If women were 50% of college graduates, do you think that means men wouldn't be 50%? Who else do we have lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:53 PM
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Yes because men are underrepresented in these aspects compared to women. How are you going to ignore those struggles?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:45 PM
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Of course you think so because you are the oppressor so your privilege doesn't allow you to see the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:42 PM
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That's what makes her more likely to be a good parent but the hotness hurts that chance since it means she's had an easier life. On the other hand, hotter wife means hotter kids which means they'll have an easier life. So maybe the optimal is pick a hot wife and parent the kid yourself. Can't be entrusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:41 PM
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Compare the women under 30 to men under 30. The women earn more in urban cities and the trend continues to grow. The women far outpace in education. The women outpace in home ownership. Also, women control our culture and social commentary. Women set the guidelines for our morals. In our western bubble, it's a women's world we're just living in it. In 2025, women are the oppressors now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:27 PM
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We apply the innocent until proven guilty model. We investigate their accusation but if it's discovered beyond reasonable doubt that they are lying, we convict them. A text message admitting she made it all up for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:24 PM
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I wasn't talking to you. I'm interested in the mental gymnastics of simp feminist men who shit on men and act like it's so noble for women to shun men out completely because a few men are bad people. Notice how you have a problem with what I said but not what he said even though I just reiterated what he said? The in-group bias that women have is evident.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:20 PM
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The dominant social group is women not men. Please unlearn your misandry you bigot. Also, feminists are making a distinction when they say #believeallwomen. Also also, we can't act like the situation is at all equal. Men have it so much worse in the protocols and guidelines that it's not even close. If you were a rape victim, you're better off being a woman than a man. We need to fight back against feminists not recognizing male oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:17 PM
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Yeah and I'm saying that's wrong too. We gotta stop giving these mfers a break just because they're hot. A hot woman is probably more likely to be a bad parent since they had it so much easier than life and won't have the adversity to handle parenthood. Duh!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:16 PM
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Apex fallacy. The top 0.0001% are not men. They are subhuman aliens designed to enslave us all. Within the human population, white women control the power. Look at how women under 30 outpace men in education far more than men did in the 70s when women were "oppressed", they have more home ownership, and in urban areas outearn men while the trend continues to grow and grow. Young men are oppressed. White women are the oppressors. We need to fight back against our oppressors.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:12 PM
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Maybe not 100% believed but compared to a man yes they are. A man's accusation is worth less than shit in society. We need to #believeallmen. This is a far bigger problem than #believeallwomen.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:10 PM
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Reading your comment sexually offends me. You are a sex offender.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:09 PM
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How does anyone else know I'm a liar? My accusation isn't baseless. You just said that my testimony is evidence. Evidence is all we need to convict. Even if you avoid conviction, what makes you so sure you won't be fired or socially ostracized? Maybe because you're a woman and therefore you hold all the social and cultural power.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:09 PM
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You're being too gracious to assume people aren't being malicious. People intentionally ignore stats that don't fit their narrative. We have a point to make and look for research that supports our preconceived opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:32 PM
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This is actually good advice for men to start caring more about the ambitions of women. No more of this "I don't care if she's a barista" talk. If she's going nowhere in life, she likely won't be a good parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:29 PM
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Why would I not be worried about women since they have much more cultural power and social power? It would be like me saying women should never worry about men because of their physical power.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:26 PM
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It's both dumb. Feminists know exactly what they're doing and disguising their misandry with "if the shoe fits" "if you weren't addressed, you wouldn't be offended" is just bullshit. It's good you can recognize it's just a gotcha moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:25 PM
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But if it was actually about that, why have nothing at all to say about how the process for male rape victims has 1000x more obstacles? Why is it #believeallwomen as if believing all men is a society we live in? They just want to add fuel to the gender war.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:23 PM
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Whatever your views are of how people don't take accusations from women seriously, please realize that it's even a thousand times worse for men. You came so close to realizing we live in a heavily misandrist society where men are pigeonholed as oppressors and thus incapable of being recognized as victims. The problem with the men for men and patriarchy arguments is that it's very convenient to blame all of society's problems on men while we ignore that white women are the most privileged group o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:21 PM
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I don't rape none of these hoes bitch they rape me first.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:18 PM
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I don't see why it's weird to want to stick up for your fellow men who could get in trouble for literally no reason at all. Women hold more social power than men and I'm scared of how they can abuse that. It's not weird to be scared of what people can do to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:17 PM
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Maybe from your misandrist perspective it looks that way but luckily some of us are civilized.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:16 PM
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Why do you want to protect evil women who falsely accuse men so bad? We're not talking about punishing women who are actually sexually assaulted. We're talking about a vile disgusting group of people that hurt everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:15 PM
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What I learn from this is that social power in our culture is a lot more powerful than we realize. A black man's allegations against a white woman is pretty much pointless. No one will think anything of it. A white woman's allegations against a black man triggers all the alarms and a national state of emergency. Look at Emmett Till as a key example. Lynched just off a white woman's words. Similarly but to a lesser extent, women hold more social power than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:11 PM
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If I accused you of rape then now you are an alleged rapist and there now exists evidence to support that you are a rapist. Does this sound like a just world to you? Would you be okay walking around in society with the label that you are an alleged rapist?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:07 PM
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Yeah they don't. They never take the accusations from minorities and men seriously if the accused is a woman. Look up the Duluth model. Our institutions are biased to diminish the voices of minorities and men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:06 PM
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Exactly, it has nothing to do with believing the allegation but merely investigating the truth. I suspect feminists purposefully word the problem in this "believeallwomen" way to cause further conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:04 PM
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When cops are dealing with a burglary, they're not believing the accuser. They're just investigating to find out what the truth is. Socially, rape victims are not treated this way but are 100% believed if they're a woman. People who are accused of SA are only given the "innocent until proven guilty" treatment socially if they're a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:03 PM
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Why does it offend you if you're not one of the problem people?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:00 PM
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Would you blame men who shun women as a whole out completely because women can be insufferable?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 05:56 PM
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Shitty people exist. I got lucky to make friends with good women so that I'm turned off from all women when I meet shitty women. Looks like you don't have good men in your lives and that's sad for you. Men can be amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 05:55 PM
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No women are not the evil overlords but there's no way you can pretend that women don't perpetuate this misandrist practice by indulging themselves in the holiday and resenting their partners if they don't live up to the expectations. I don't like that when we talk about equality, we speak as if men are the masters of the world resilient to all forces while women are brainless and taken where the winds of society takes them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 06:46 PM
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You're responsible for yourself as an adult. I can sit here and blame all the ways that feminism fucks over men but the older a man gets he should be able to discern the bullshit and make his own decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 01:21 PM
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Couldn't they simply say that more women work now because of feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 01:10 PM
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It's much harder for men due to society intentionally deprioritizing male relationships through the societal pressure of men to be providers causing solitude in fixating on their one true purpose. Yes, men are responsible in their age for figuring these things out but it's ridiculous to act like men don't start with a severe setback. While a man can advocate for himself by taking responsibility, he can also complain about the societal attitudes and sexism towards men because he wants boys to gro…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 12:38 PM
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Why not both? Men failing to have friendships with each other is primarily men's fault with some blame on societal expectations that women contribute to. Men failing to have romantic relationships can be men and women's fault equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 12:32 PM
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The only time feminists are willing to delve into the why behind the statistics in studies is when the perception is negative towards women. They'll approach these findings with countless excuses. Meanwhile, they'll happily hold over the heads of men that men are the perpetuators of the majority of violence while ignoring all the societal reasons why that is. Meanwhile, they're outspoken when racists use the 13/50 statistic. This is the problem with the views of feminism that we live in a patria…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 12:27 PM
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Feminism IS misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 12:20 PM
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The total doesn't matter to a discussion about which relationship is most likely to be abusive. Of course heterosexual relationships have the highest total of abuse, that's what you expect when the vast majority of people are heterosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 12:20 PM
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Benevolent sexism is less harmful than aggressive sexism TO WOMEN!!!!! The flip side of all benevolent sexism is hostile sexism to men. When we treat women as better people because of their sex, we are treating men as worse people because of their sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 12:17 PM
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I agree with you but this also means women shouldn't complain about housework if the man has to provide for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 12:10 PM
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*gasp* men are human beings?? revolutionary discovery.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 12:08 PM
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But but but feminists said feminism is about equality!!! To give the male population a little grace, it's disgusting how early feminists can suck in boys into hating themselves but any self respecting man should figure it out by the 18-24 range.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 12:08 PM
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A wife would never be ridiculed for abandoning her husband to escape from an avalanche. Women expect men to sacrifice their lives for them. Where is the equality? Male disposability is not a joke!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 12:04 PM
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I don't think at a higher rate but do you have any evidence that childfree women are the bastions of equality and would give up the benevolent sexism benefits of their counterparts just for the benefit of men? I don't see why they would.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 12:00 PM
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Women aren't outright demanding these things. Men feel the societal pressure to do these things. This is wrong and sexism is wrong! Also, most men feel they would be resented if they didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 11:57 AM
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You can't hand wave all sexism/misandry that women contribute towards by saying we live in a society or patriarchy or whatever. This is just the feminist excuse of absolving women of all responsibility in the society we live in. Their hypocrisy is that all women's problems are society's and all men's problems are their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 11:56 AM
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It's illogical to expect a man to be protective and provide security without being patronizing or resentful over it if it's not established in their relationship that the woman has to make up for what she's being provided in other ways. If she holds this expectation but also goes around 24/7 yelling about equality and 50/50 relationships, she is a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 11:54 AM
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Do you think it's okay that women expect benevolent sexism and chivalry out of men? Do you think men should accept this without feeling resentment?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 11:48 AM
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