ApoChaos Archive

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2	This. This so much. Criticising a professional's clothing choice at a significant event is not the same as scrutinising the clothes of a sexual assault victim. That comparison equates people tweeting about what they feel is an inappropriate choice with sexual assault. The fact that you think this is a strong comparison speaks only to how fucking absurd your reasoning is. These are not comparable instances on which you can apply the exact same reasoning; the fact that that even needs to be said is ridiculous.	/r/MensRights	15/11/14 05:14 PM
-2	Rape culture I post regularly to SRS (instant-pariah, gooo!) We consistently condemn the upvoted prison-rape threads that crop up. I think most anyone who has put enough thought into problematic gender dynamics would condemn how socially-acceptable these jokes are. It looks like there is a consensus here which it would be nice to see embraced. The issue is that most rapists do not consider themselves rapists; they are normal people who make waaay too many assumptions about a situation, and when they could op…	/r/MensRights	16/08/12 01:55 PM
0	I think I broke my brain with rage... That is terrible: kids are the worst! I don't assume any individual is racist until they've actually behaved in a way that could be construed as such. There are too many good people to go about things in any other way. That said, people lie to themselves when they say something to the effect of 'I don't see race': people who push this notion are the ones less likely to check their own prejudices. No one is completely un-affected by the crappy stereotypes around.	/r/MensRights	06/04/12 06:20 PM
1	I think I broke my brain with rage... While, yes, men can't exactly bust out a feminine wardrobe here, they have no pressing reason to do so unless they really wanted to wear a dress. No one is sitting around discussing what tie Obama was wearing the other day. It's more about what you can do, and what society heavily implies you ought to do: male politicians can wear the same generic suit over and over again and no one will care. Women are shamed for wearing the same--or a similar--outfit across a short time-frame. The fact that fe…	/r/MensRights	06/04/12 02:39 PM
1	I think I broke my brain with rage... The fact that you don't is a good thing, but the media certainly does. I was just using her as an example because the fact that she's treated differently to her male contemporaries is extremely obvious: when she was campaigning against Obama the commentators would frequently talk about what 'pants-suit' she chose to wear. Obama never had any of that thread in his reporting. The point is, she couldn't have afforded to just wear the same suit like Obama was because the media would have destroyed h…	/r/MensRights	06/04/12 06:03 AM
0	I think I broke my brain with rage... Any attempt to codify these 'inadequacies' (seriously!?) invariably ends up dismissing those that don't fit whatever stereotype is involved (and the stereotype can easily be man-made: male-dominated sector passively picks up the idea that women aren't good at it; parents, schools and culture at large perpetuates the idea, then women are discouraged from moving towards said field; very few women in the field continues). Say you, hypothetically, wanted to make the argument that black people are of…	/r/MensRights	06/04/12 05:53 AM
2	I think I broke my brain with rage... ...as it is already mainstream opinion that blacks shouldn't be pulled over for no reason and that women shouldn't invest any more time in vanity than they wish. Oh, I'm so glad these are popular opinions. Someone forgot to tell the police or fashion industries, though; rampant racial profiling and unhealthy-thin women wearing barely anything give a far different impression than this rosy 'mainstream opinion' you're talking about. It isn't racist or sexist to point out that the majority of weste…	/r/MensRights	06/04/12 05:36 AM
0	I think I broke my brain with rage... This isn't about individuals: it isn't about your individual link to the past oppression, but more about acknowledging that our culture comes directly out of that shit and that it never really under-went a dramatic change; there is simply no pragmatic benefit in ignoring the fact that we are living in the direct result of a shitty past. This doesn't somehow mean that black people and women aren't capable of perpetuating the terrible culture we live in, too; this isn't about hating on a race or a…	/r/MensRights	06/04/12 04:38 AM
1	I think I broke my brain with rage... I don't agree that it's impossible in individual instances for black people to be racist towards a white person, just as with women and men. The issue is that culture is steered for profit, and it is conservative and white. Where we are now is still geared heavily to be easiest as a white man. This doesn't mean that shit is just handed to you, but you have it the easiest: you aren't encouraged to spend excessive amounts of time (and money) on un-spoken beauty standards, and you're not about to b…	/r/MensRights	06/04/12 02:54 AM
1	A woman beats up her partner on a train and nobody intervenes. Why does nobody seem to care when a man is abused? I'm not revising any history, do you really believe that western society hasn't been patriarchal from its very roots? Well, it still is, and it's dumb. If equality was as easy as just saying 'We're equal now!' and throwing some confetti in the air and revising the law, that would be nice. But what then? Centuries of cultural heritage out the window? Fuck no! The fact that so many modern cinema 'block-busters' re-hash extremely dated paradigms is one obvious way this drags on. What kind of messag…	/r/MensRights	31/03/12 05:08 AM
1	A woman beats up her partner on a train and nobody intervenes. Why does nobody seem to care when a man is abused? He wasn't talking about how 'all men feel', but rather how society implies men ought to feel. The fact that he was talking about his experiences should make it obvious that different people of different times would be affected by gender-roles to varying degrees. If you think feminism won at some point take a look at any modern music video. Of course no one is flat-out told women are lesser; it's easy to take on a simple idea like that without thinking too much into it, and it's almost a rhetoric…	/r/MensRights	31/03/12 04:45 AM
1	A woman beats up her partner on a train and nobody intervenes. Why does nobody seem to care when a man is abused? Okay I'm back to confused again. Please explain.	/r/MensRights	31/03/12 04:11 AM
1	A woman beats up her partner on a train and nobody intervenes. Why does nobody seem to care when a man is abused? I agree completely that the reaction of the public was terrible, and I also agree that he could easily have suffered damages that can't be seen here (that's why I said that more context would be nice). I maintain that what he did was best for him in a shitty situation; he, understandably, looked very confused as to why no one was doing anything. When you're that much larger than someone it must be annoyingly obvious that the line between reasonable resistance and defensive aggression would not b…	/r/MensRights	31/03/12 03:55 AM
1	A woman beats up her partner on a train and nobody intervenes. Why does nobody seem to care when a man is abused? He made the best of a terrible situation; intervention should have happened much sooner. That is the only thing I can definitively say with regards to how I perceived the video. As I said before, the apathy of the public is terrible: if that is the main angle people here are angry at then I'm on the same page, just because of how easy it can be to de-escalate these kinds of problems with some words. Other than that I see a video of a livid woman attacking a guy twice her size on a train full of …	/r/MensRights	31/03/12 12:57 AM
1	A woman beats up her partner on a train and nobody intervenes. Why does nobody seem to care when a man is abused? If he had done half the things to her that she did to him, yes people would have been far more angry. But why? Maybe because she would have left the train station in a fucking ambulance; he is twice the size of her! I know this is crazy, but men have this hormone called 'testosterone' and it kind of makes them, generally, physically stronger and bigger than women. Notice 'generally'; not all men, not all women, but by-and-large this is true. Like here. And we all know how much society values phy…	/r/MensRights	30/03/12 08:25 PM
4	Saw this Time Magazine Cover: "Women are overtaking Men as the Nation's breadwinners, and why it is good for everyone." By 'over-taking' it means that one-third of the women in dual-income relationships were making more than their husbands. This is a misleading headline designed to provoke a response. But hey, it's not like Time has been found to be watering down its front-covers in the US for sensationalist appeal or anything...	/r/MensRights	29/03/12 03:38 PM
-5	Drunk woman who savagely attacked a man on the train "is sorry" and was just responding to "his male aggression" Actually, I 'assumed' it isn't traumatic to him for a few reasons (although this whole argument is immaterial as I already know she was being shitty and I wouldn't blame the guy if he was upset with the situation. However, there is a world of difference between 'upset' and 'traumatised'.) Firstly, she clearly does not know how to fight at all and, moreover, is visibly not strong: the closest thing to a hit that could do any damage was the first 'punch', and I seriously doubt it left a mark. Seco…	/r/MensRights	13/03/12 10:43 PM
-11	Drunk woman who savagely attacked a man on the train "is sorry" and was just responding to "his male aggression" I kind of like your position. Sadly it isn't the position of everyone here: Reasonable force in this case probably involves a broken nose. Hooray for reasonable force! For a start, yes, un-investigated assault is an injustice: this is not that. We don't know what happened before this video recording started: people don't just have their phone out with record on stand-by in case some shit happens, so maybe he did do/say something stupid or aggravating before the recording started. Besides, this v…	/r/MensRights	13/03/12 08:28 PM
-17	Drunk woman who savagely attacked a man on the train "is sorry" and was just responding to "his male aggression" Care to give an answer to any of my questions? I'm not trolling, I am just completely confused as to what the purpose of this thread is.	/r/MensRights	13/03/12 06:04 PM
-38	Drunk woman who savagely attacked a man on the train "is sorry" and was just responding to "his male aggression" So she's being charged with assault, and he didn't seem to sustain much of any injuries from the volley: where's the injustice here, again? And now the top-rated comment in this topic calls her out on her looks because of one (probably misplaced) feminine sentiment. What societally-ingrained injustice is actually being opposed here? Is it because she's drunk and violent, and if the genders were reversed it would look terrible for the man? Well yes, it would: that's the fucking patriarchy of soci…	/r/MensRights	13/03/12 05:29 PM
1	Does anyone else find it really annoying how people claim how "misogynistic reddit is" yet when something that means a lot to a guy breaks (from his gf hitting into it or something) that he got with his late grandfather, and he cries because of this, people storm in just to call him a fag? Err, the idea of a negative impact of a culturally maintained 'preferred masculinity' is a part of feminism. That is why people feel that they can't admit to crying over content in most threads without making a stupid joke about onions or contact lenses: the general idea that 'real men don't cry'.	/r/MensRights	29/02/12 12:57 PM