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Look at 'em. Choose wisely.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:33 PM
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So they're being cheated on. Sounds like they need to do better, and identify and reject dudes more readily.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 10:31 AM
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This comment thread seems to say 'sharing' a lot where it could say 'being cheated on'. If this is a self-reported survey, you could look at it as which genders WANT TO be in a committed relationship, vs. which genders want to deny they are in a committed relationship. If you take the percentages as given and assume people tend to couple up, you could say that more than half of the women could be doing better, as they are with cheaters or trying to lie to themselves about the stability and value…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 10:30 AM
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Women like to share, but not that. Nope. You're overthinking it. This is headcanon.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 09:40 AM
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This jumped out: "The Purple pill guys would not want the relationship I had with my wife because they are just boys that want girl toys and they don’t value the love that my wife and I had." Reading more about how you describe it, no: I don't. When I was in your shoes I eventually figured out that I had to sort out my own stuff that had me walking into relationships like that and calling it 'love'. I wish you luck and enough space you'll need to work any of this out: it's not easy. Or, in the a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 10:59 AM
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I'm not dead! I'm feeling better! I think I'll go for a walk! :D
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 12:31 AM
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Could be a sort of love bombing tailored to certain kinds of men. Sure seems to be plenty of guys signing up, uncritically. Male version is, 'I will shower you with gifts, attention, and love'. It's all very well promising something very ingratiating, but (a) is that sincerely meant and (b) real?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:58 AM
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Clementinequeen95 nailed it just above, though. Approaching isn't the problem. They're trying to figure out if, once you approach, you will refuse to leave. Sometimes it's hard to tell whether a guy will refuse to leave and refuse to take a no. Being crushed, in love, and mourning the loss of his one true love who has rejected him… counts as not taking a no! In the emotional world he is now heavy complicated baggage who is not carrying any of his own weight. This one got me real bad during my wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 02:42 PM
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Fuck no. Absolutely not. Being a provider is for sex partners and part of a couple of a certain type. Nothing wrong with that but that's not what an opposite sex friendship is. Some of your examples aren't that kind of 'giving'. I'd accompany somebody home or help lift or reach things for anyone, male or female, to the extent I felt like it: I'm not keeping track, but I don't have to have huge reasons to say no thanks. 'hey can you get that' is no big imposition. Paying for stuff adds up. If you…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 11:38 AM
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This is a complicated question. For the most part, I've been alone all my life because I'm an abuse survivor: near as I can work out I was a battered infant. My Mom absolutely forced my Dad to deal with his temper problem to the point where my two youngest siblings never experienced that, and all throughout childhood I was the scapegoat and took the brunt of family blame. Alone's safe. I've made big strides with being able to cope with other people, and big strides with being able to identify wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 11:31 AM
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I certainly hope so! Women are NOT the only ones who need to be able to say no rather than settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 08:58 PM
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Not even. In this context 'disagreeable' means 'he has a mind of his own and doesn't just say whatever he thinks you want to hear'. He's not placating, or giving you a snow-job. Agreeable would be a kind of submissiveness. I'm a man and I'm attracted to disagreeable women: you could call it 'spunky' or 'opinionated' or 'intelligent' if you assume a placating, gentle person can't be intelligent. I'm learning to also value gentleness. I guess it wouldn't be either 'he says no' or 'he says yes', th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 10:17 PM
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Yeah, I put 'women' in quotes because what I'm talking about is the only women redpillers and blackpillers are considering. They are trying to make an argument that all women are the same and then rationalizing it into a lot of creepy misogyny. Of course there are women who aren't anything like that. What I'm saying is that even for women who ARE attracted by manly men, there's a better explanation to be had, and creepy misogyny is still wrong :) Interestingly, the term 'sweet' is widely known t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 01:30 PM
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'Women' are attracted to disagreeable, and authoritative. That's not at all the same thing as misogyny. What people call simping is indeed a dis-attractant to 'women', but it's not because it's liking women, it's crawling and being subservient. The challenge with navigating female sexuality as a woman is that it's fine to want masculine males, but it's dangerous to just submit even if it's a turn-on, because there are a lot of crappy males out there and you don't want them. So you select and exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 12:59 PM
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I probably have that and I completely agree that it sucks. The excitement doesn't outweigh how hollow and futile it is. You have to be real desperate to overlook all the negatives: people using each other like fleshlights and going, GTFO, after. I guess if you also never have friends you don't know what else you're missing?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 11:07 AM
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This may be true: I can't speak for society. But I'm demisexual, so I find this take beyond stupid. Anywhere I go I'm a 6' man with a bunch of entitlement coupons that apparently mean I could rake in a pile of women if I'm not choosy, and comply with this societal standard. I can't imagine how tiresome that would be. I don't WANT most women. I'm offended at the idea that as a man and a desirable man, I should go have sex with a large number of women I don't know or like. It's bonkers. I refuse t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 11:00 AM
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Damn, son. You first. Mind that you're not grounded when first you plug in! :D
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 06:03 PM
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Seriously. If you have friendships you can get some of this outside of sex. Woman energy is like a vitamin, good to be around especially if you don't get caught up in it too much, don't get immersed in the drama :) I find it very easy to believe that male energy is likewise for women. We as genders complement each other while never entirely understanding each other. It's kinda neat. I figure that's why pairbonding, and the formalization of that which is marriage, works. Without marriage, people …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 03:31 PM
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and the first thing that came to my mind was "Jesus.. he put a ring on that!?" Thank fuck she didn't marry you, and no wonder she's not fucking you now. If she is, I stand corrected and hope to never know any of you sad, creepy people, but the first thing that came to mind is 'no wonder she left'. I just want a person who gets me: I could do what you do, quite easily, and it seems as not worth the effort as you say marriage is. Take up bowling. Bowling prizes can't take half your stuff, nor can …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 03:23 PM
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Yes. Absolutely. The bigger questions are, does she exist, and are there additional things about her that are dealbreakers for me? It's not difficult for women to be attracted to me, but I'm not available unless I like 'em back and like their character.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 11:01 PM
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mmmm… I'd rephrase that. If criticism means you're obliged to revise the boundaries if they're criticised loudly enough, nope. Boundaries are a good reason to have other boundaries around. It's good to be able to identify them in others, and tell what's negotiable and what's really not. If you can identify a boundary in another which is theirs, but makes you nope out of there, the correct response is NOT criticism (even in the aftermath!) but to nope the hell out of there. I have done this, not …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 03:21 PM
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Being bonkers is not itself a crime ;) Are you prepared to know the law and keep your workforce small enough that you can do as you please? It's different if you're just you and three friends, versus you monopolizing the industry and being the only employer operating within your region. Are you prepared to stay local, agile and small, or is the goal to make 'bro force' beat out all your competition and put 'em out of business?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 03:16 PM
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How big does it have to SCALE? I've been running a business for years that isn't obliged to hire women. I'm not obliged to hire anybody, it's just me. The more I scale, the more I become subject to labor practices. I'm subject to laws right now, but there aren't any that say 'you are a one-man business, first thing you must do is hire a woman before proceeding any further'. So how big do you reckon on SCALING that this is one of your conditions? Do you also feel a need to prohibit unionization o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 03:11 PM
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Ugly is also posture, carriage, self-care and grooming, masking… there's an awful lot of 'ugly' that is superfluous, or that grows like mold. At least half of severely 'ugly' is made of this stuff, that could be neutralized or reversed, or augmented. Blackpill is really, really bad about augmenting it, making blackpillers more ugly the darker their minds get. Red pill, not necessarily, because self-care isn't all bad, and one thing you gotta do is stop putting your well-being into the care of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:47 PM
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That's actually useful to know about: I know that as a guy grown up blue pilled, I tend to REQUIRE a woman's sex drive be active, not reactive. As such I'll have to wait for a cue and might be a long time waiting (or, need to be with a woman capable of being at least partly active). It's deeper than just training, I'm not attracted to the completely passive, I gotta see a spark and it excites me in turn, either a dead fish or a totally innocent naif are turn-offs to me. I'm comfortable with this…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 11:12 AM
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I'm not at all sure women as a rule CARE whether their man responds to them in that visceral way, into their body type etc. I'd like to think so, as I've got a type and would like to find that as a match, and have it considered an extra plus. I know the end result, getting horny, is desirable at the right times. But I'm really not sure the idea 'he is into my body type' works with women in general. The impression I get is that ANY generalization like that, is a serious negative. As if he has to …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 10:56 AM
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They absolutely should! That would be fair and reasonable. And who knows whether a 5'8" and 8" guy would suddenly be able to interact with more confidence and less horrible toxicity from insecurity. I particularly like the idea of being able to ask about his knowledge of the clitoris, because it seems to me it requires effort to fail to know about something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 10:48 AM
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Sounds plausible to me. Rock on :)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 08:13 PM
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What does that have to do with it? My standards are high as anything. The woman from the TV show is in fact seriously cute and aligns with my standards better than most. The point is, there is not one standard, everyone has their own angle on things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 07:24 PM
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Speak for yourself, I would willingly fly her to the MOON. Mrowwr. :D
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:01 PM
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A salient question. I own mine but it ain't in great shape on the outside. Great fixed mortgage payment though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 03:00 PM
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What? The first three women are actively appealing to me and the first one from the TV show is downright adorable. Yes please. Now I want to watch that show. Your example 3 is also very attractive and seems to be a smart cookie. I don't know where your tastes lie, but holy crap. More for me, dude. I probably don't even like the women you consider amazing. Some of what you're ruling out as unacceptable is right in line with what I find most attractive. All of the 'more examples of an average Joe'…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 02:57 PM
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Increasing amounts of people are lacking something needed to get in the game. Yeah, money. Back in the day people had leisure time and didn't have to put 70% of their paychecks to housing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 10:24 AM
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Even in pure redpillism there's an explanation for this and for her loving him, perhaps beyond all reason. Let's assume we're talking Andrew Tate style, dominate the woman and own her soul and bully her until she submits. Tate's not that big a guy but violent, a martial arts guy and jacked bodybuilder. He intimidates by aggression and muscle. Ever heard of the bear type? Let's suppose the fat and ugly guy is also a hairy dude. Maybe he's not a pile of goo, more like a keg of muscle, but you'll n…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 10:21 AM
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Is "Deep Purple Pill" a thing? Yes, but you'll see the line that's drawn between good and bad :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:15 PM
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That's the sort of experience that got me more red-tinged. I'd also spent some years in exercise, but more than that, hooked up with a lady who (with a little effort) was able to communicate what she wanted. And same deal, she wanted to be smacked, her hair pulled, Neanderthal crap. And it didn't stop her being smart and capable, that's just what got her off. Not quite the blue pill picture I was sold growing up. The thing is, (1) it's going to be difficult balancing that with getting the respec…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:06 PM
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That's a dumb assumption. You're allowed to want stuff out of an interaction too. If what you want and what he wants are incompatible, don't hang out with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 10:52 PM
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As a rule, yes. There are plenty of exceptions to any rule but I cannot simply expect any woman to cope with my lifestyle unaltered, so I've got to make concessions and make an effort to be more sociable anytime I'm interacting with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 10:48 PM
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I'm an autistic nerd who looks younger than my age, and got a lecture from my dad on the subject of the dangers of having a giant cock. (which it ain't, just one in 100: 'goldicock' zone, not record-setter). I can only assume they figured that out when I was stuck in church school in agony from getting boners trapped in jeans (bent my shit permanently, it has to fold to be stowed) All this was so humiliating and traumatic I just hid in fantasy and sci-fi and music and, later, drugs. I did not ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 03:58 PM
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Game in the sense you mean is a fundamental part of business and being entrepreneurial. I think maybe the PUAs perform game on women because they are failures in every other part of life and have nothing else… whether or not a woman authentically desires you, it is possible to manipulate and seek advantage in every respect until you've completely dominated her or driven her away. There is NO reason a human, especially in your most intimate relationship, has to seek every advantage all the time l…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 02:58 PM
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Good point. BAD idea if you give any crap about yourself and your own well being, but it will absolutely give you dark triad attitudes and that will fool some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 01:28 PM
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Understandable. The suggestion is that, as a woman, you're hardwired to only want to be screwed by men who dominate everyone around them via capitalist means, and that this overrides everything else. In a very real sense this is subservient behavior: kowtowing to the dictates of capitalism and societal expectation, which is kind of beta if you think about it. Unable to dominate his tenants, the landlord uses the cops to bully them if they don't do what he wants. He becomes a sort of Jabba-like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 02:26 PM
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No, crypto traders are scum too :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 02:17 PM
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A home is property and is a substantial deal these days. A career is a purpose in the world and evidence of some determination. Hobbies are a sign of a guy with a mind and will of his own doing stuff outside what he's told to do. Every single one of those things are still valid and register as arousing to women in the sense that they're masculine signifiers, indicating a man with means and ambition and ideas of his own. Doesn't mean they are DIRECTLY enticing (oooh, fly fishing, sexy! LOL) but t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 12:24 PM
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I disagree. The excuse would be, if you ONLY wanted the red-pillyest and most performatively masculine guys you could possibly find, but wanted to comb through them and find the one that would put in the most effort and work to win you, and only pick that one and discard the others. It's like a script for selecting only guys who are both well-off and unwilling to let women pick up the check for ego reasons, both extra horny and so infatuated by her in particular that they'll fight their way thro…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 10:30 AM
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This is true: I'm one of those guys. I get no special thrill out of the dynamic plus it gets scraped up by molars on the sides: not that awesome if I'm honest, even when done really well. Does work as a good wake-me-up though :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 10:19 AM
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Even that can be taken in several ways. I've been in a lot of conversations with friends, especially in tough times, where everybody just falls silent and can't keep a conversation going to the point that it's unhappy and uncomfortable. There's a difference between feeding the guy rope to get him talking, and being in a situation where you both are ONLY allowed to talk about him and he refuses to tolerate or be interested in anything else. OP doesn't know where on that line she is, yet. It could…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 10:16 AM
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Also, was it any good, apart from your not wanting oral sex? Was there reciprocity with that and did you want it? Did he do it in a way you liked or in a way that put you off?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 10:11 AM
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Marriage is nothing but codified pairbonding. As a man, I have to be putting up with a lot of abuse, conflict and nonsense before being in a pairbondy relationship with a woman DOESN'T feel natural and good, and I'll shrug a lot of stuff off before getting to the point of wanting out. I made that decision once and got out, and seriously entertained it a second time and got out. I don't think it's the decision that's at fault, I think I wasn't doing great at finding suitable people who were a pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 10:03 AM
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Have other needs. I lived that life, 'bro'. I know whereof I speak. I'm well over 50. You're correct that nothing substitutes for lack of partner, but what you don't know is that when you get old enough you turn around and ask, 'wait, why was I wanting this so bad again?' You'll note I don't blue pill flair. This is why. Have other goals. Some of your needs are worthless needs that matter about as much in the grand scheme of things as mold growing on the old cottage cheese in your fridge. People…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:51 AM
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What if there's an autistic person who is not Einstein, but whose life is the building of a model train set? Einstein is a celebrity, but you can have all sorts of personal things to run with and not all of them will make you a celebrity. What if a guy devotes their life to building the model train set, and it's the most amazing one that nobody ever saw but him, and he dies of old age surrounded by his trains? That would be very autistic, and yet very satisfying. Rod Stewart literally did that a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:45 AM
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I mean if your life goal is 'have a hot GF and a bunch of friends with whom you do normal-person things the way everybody else does'… Make other goals. I don't respect those goals. I got stuff to do. I'm doing it. In some ways I need to be less contemptuous of those normaloid goals and cross over into them, but if it never happens, I'm gonna do the good I am there to do in the world, and I'm gonna enjoy being there to do it. Seriously, if you don't have other goals, find some. 'most people don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:34 AM
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Well, you can say it and all that will happen is a guy like me will come out of the woodwork saying 'oh hey you're my type then?'. There absolutely are a lot of guys who like overweight or T&A women, to the point where it's obviously fine to go on about it. Those of us into your type have limited options. The best I've come up with is calling it 'elfin', which both makes it come off fetishistic (something nobody accuses T&A guys of) and turbo nerdy. So I've basically given up, except when you go…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 11:35 AM
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That's fair. Never mind :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 12:32 AM
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Confirmed, it's gonna be a matter of taste. I browsed through Google Image search and the stuff that goes on with that condition is not any more off-putting than anything else. I bet there's some guys (which is not to say you'd like them, that's up to you) who would actively be more aroused by acromegaly. I'm thinking the 'step on me giant mommy' incel kids who've got a bit weird. Anything out of the ordinary is weird, otherwise we'd all be fine as bluepill. What you want is compatible weird. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 04:01 PM
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I love it when guys completely miss this point. Turns out this is kind of an important thing to do (or not do) with your life…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:25 PM
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So the part I'm going to argue with is 'ladies have made up their minds within a first few seconds'. They're not automatons, dude. All us humans are far too prey to getting bullied by our instinctive reactions and rationalizations but this is NOT a gender-specific thing. If you think it is only women doing this and it's very unfair that only men have to think their way through this minefield of women's automatic responses, that is what rationalization feels like from the inside, congrats. Women …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:23 PM
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Yeah, I unironically like woman B too. Super cute and petite and spicy? I'm in, and I'll see how big of a problem everything else is. Might not work out but I'll have no regrets. I've done this, though the wealth factor was not really up to the example. Sets a high bar for anything else I might want to do with my life. Why settle for worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 12:00 PM
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Joke's on him, you said tongue his dick BEFORE french kissing. As in, finish up and then go in for the french kiss. We'll see how enthusiastic he still is :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 11:51 AM
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He might be more. What if he went up and introduced himself and started talking robotically about Gundam, but it was cute to them for some reason or his trousers bulged or he's really tall? Shyness is NOT obligatory. (neither is masking) Being autistic and being really masculine can both get you into an oblivious zone where you're not giving a fuck what reaction you get, or even registering it. There are problems with this but don't deny it's part of the territory. I'm less interested in being s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:35 AM
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So you're compelled to be masculine in every way even though you're out-Chadded in a bunch of ways and yet there's absolutely nothing you can do about it? Like if you cross your legs or your voice cracks that's just sin, rather than just a different way to be? Suit yourself, dude. If I'm masculine it's in ways I WANT to be not because I'm forced to be, still less because women expect me to be. I'll do what I damn well please.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:16 AM
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Or, you can re-evaluate rather than just go despair over a game you never signed on for. I spent years being blackpilled and certain I would never find love or sex, but I just got creative and tried a lot of stuff. Try being metrosexual, try being gay, try not even bothering with the whole scene. See what you can tolerate and what you can't. Fifty years of getting hammered on that anvil left me not at all blackpilled anymore. I don't care whether I find a partner at this stage, I know that I can…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 05:47 PM
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See, here's the thing. I don't know who he is. I don't care what he thinks, or what attitudes he has. I think it's completely plausible that he's a creepy controlling person who shouldn't be trying to date an Instagram model or whatever the hell she is, but from what I can tell, he stopped. Good! Gold star. His reasons don't matter and if he's mudslinging and implying she's all slutty, first of all, so? And secondly, maybe he's just weirdly controlling. Bullet dodged. She's better off without hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 11:41 AM
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I'm going to confirm the touchy-feely, though not as much 'open about their sexuality'. It gets to where these female friends are touching or petting me or giving a little kiss, but it's like they'd do to a FEMALE super-close friend, there's not groping or lingering or grabbing my junk or anything. Maybe it's like putting your head in the tame lion's mouth? It's very trusting. When I'm actually dating, I do NOT see that happen, but when I'm actually dating is when other women are directly intere…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 10:42 PM
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Absolutely. Through shared experience. Just as fulfilling as male friendship and a little bit more, in the sense that I can get some 'woman energy' but not all of it (and doubtless vice versa). Multiple female platonic friends. There is nobody better at spotting if you're dating someone who's going to do you harm. Women friends will not let that stand. It's tough because they'll burn the friendship making their stand, and it can't be quite the same, but they'll still stand up for you if they kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 10:34 PM
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No lie detected. Even if religion is totally imaginary this sort of take leads to hell on earth, so quit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:28 PM
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More relevantly, who the fuck says a man can't be good and masculine at the same time? Being high-T and disagreeable doesn't mean you have to be a psychopath. It's like OP is trapped between two poles. One is being a deeply evil abusive fuck, and the other is being an absolute simp. Grow up, OP. If that's the best you can do, you should choose simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:26 PM
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Don't worry. I Jeremiahed at him. This guy isn't representati… okay, he's representative of some Christians, no lie. But not all of them. And he sure ain't representative of the book.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:22 PM
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This guy's an outlier. Black pill to the core. Don't bother listening to the talk about how he's religious and all. Might as well be Satan, by those standards. You get all kinds in here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:19 PM
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Jeremiah 17:9. Maybe you should not leave it to yourself to figure out how much 'bending the rules' is 'a little bit'. Because it looks to me like you have posted a thread unironically arguing that dark triad is the best way to be for attracting women (and eliciting long term committment and loyalty, which isn't itself bad for the women). I mean, I'm a sinner in ways you couldn't possibly imagine, but even I can tell that's fucked up :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:12 PM
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God had some things to say about evil, by your standards. Are you advocating for evil? Maybe you've got things a little mixed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:20 PM
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They're celebrities. Be a celebrity, or outlier in pretty much any way, and watch your opportunities improve drastically no matter who you are. Literally no matter who you are, as your initial thesis proves. HOW your celebrity is achieved will govern how good or bad a partner you'll find, so choose wisely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:19 PM
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I think you mean 'sigma' :D
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:16 AM
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But then, sometimes the problem with the advice is that it's geared to taking otherwise normal people and making them MORE autistic in nature (yes, I'd say red-pill-isms tend towards self-absorption and autism). So for an autistic person, maybe some of that is more like self-acceptance in a healthy way. The trick is you then have to learn from the blue pill side because the red pill side specializes in being autistically forever-alone, even while fucking, as they do not acknowledge anything else…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:15 AM
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Another person with autism here, answering. Because Red Pill combines significant observations about the human animal with deep, deep folly and lame rationalizations, and Blue Pill is so tied up with neurotypical assumptions about how people read social situations that it's literally impossible to do for an autistic person, but is a healthier way to behave. So, PurplePillDebate is perfect because it's full of people of all genders (mostly 'both' but I bet it's more inclusive than that), arguing …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:05 AM
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How much money would you be comfortable betting against Bezos that he couldn't prove you wrong? Red pill guys strangely don't seem to understand what power is…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 02:55 PM
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Maybe Bezos is bi and is screwing him? Don't kink-shame. Or maybe Bezos gets a kick out of making him watch, and you've got it flipped? As an aside it is HILARIOUS how the redpillers are getting me to defend Bezos so passionately, and me a left wing open source developer undermining the likes of Bezos daily. Some of you guys are born followers, that's all. Go out and make something of yourselves and you'll start to get it. I'd like to undermine everything Bezos is built on, and still I relate to…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 01:26 PM
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Have you ever met an upper or mid level Amazon executive, or anybody who has worked for them or with them, or any of the upper level code monkeys who implement their wishes? You have no idea what you're talking about. Run a company and keep control of it while it grows to even let's say a hundred thousand dollars of revenue yearly. 'Bezos doesn't have a following'. My ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 01:25 PM
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I've never seen a red pill communist before :) for that matter, I've never seen a red piller be particularly concerned with capitalist exploitation. Bezos plays into the drama of big business, and people love that sort of thing. He heads the poster child for producing a sharknado of amoral crazed executives who will do anything to win. It doesn't take a lot of spin for 'most people' to worship the dude as some kind of God for little more than his competitive spirit, and it'd be a better world if…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 01:19 PM
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Oh HELL no. Jeff is not average. He's a nut. The crazy just pours out of him, nobody who directed their own path to THAT much wealth is anything like normal or average. Lauren is always going to be like 12th place to him, everything is subjugated to his will to win. He's the model for AMAZON. That place makes Microsoft look like hippies. They'll have cut a deal of some kind that limits his exposure: she has to be absolutely tied to the mast if she's gonna end up with significant amounts of his w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 01:05 PM
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Men don't 'have' to achieve. Men STRIVE to achieve. I mentioned the restlessness (which can happen in good or very bad ways). That doesn't mean men being men is the only way to be. I'm just saying :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:18 PM
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Don't kink-shame. I'd run screaming, but people want what they want. From what little I read, they had the pig woman expressing continuous enthusiastic consent. That's the only part of that experiment that's in line with what I like :) I'm not gonna fault guys with weird tastes being lured into extra hornyness by a 'woman' actively asking them to have sex. If someone hooks up with me and we like each other, I'd also like to see continuous enthusiastic consent. Nothing wrong with how they were in…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 02:05 PM
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I disagree on several grounds. We don't seek intimacy and connection nearly as much as women do, and we're driven to sex more harshly. That isn't a better or worse thing, it's different. It's as much of a strength as it is a weakness. A man who swings heavily in the masculine direction is more disagreeable and less swayed by the need to fit in, and this can have positive outcomes when you need things done in new ways, when you need progress. Intimacy and connection end up being the next best thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:57 PM
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Her point. It's very much a woman's perspective on the question, and what she thinks men need and want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:42 PM
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Ah, but that's part of it. Being already in a relationship is like existence proof of sexual desirability: it's not that women want to be parts of harems, it is that finding good men is apparently so difficult that raiding other women who've found some, begins to look appealing. And women share more easily and socially interact more easily… so managing a seemingly bad situation becomes an acceptable loss. So yeah, a woman straight up tried to kiss you knowing you were in a relationship. Female e…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 12:46 PM
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Big if true. Yikes. The word 'better' is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. Do you understand how little work boring and typical dude would have to do, to be doing better than the serial killer? He doesn't need 500 incredibly twisted and toxic women. He just needs one random boring woman and he'll be all set. It's nowhere near that hard unless you make it that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 03:32 PM
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This is a seriously dumb argument, and here's why: You're being told that the serial killer is a celebrity. A random boring dude off the street is by definition not a celebrity. So, let's say a hundredth of the population is aware of the serial killer, maybe more, and like five people are aware of the boring dude. So, out of a million women aware of the serial killer, 500 of them get excited and want to bed him/fix him/whatever. And out of the five people who know the boring dude, nobody cares t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 12:42 PM
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You gotta be persistent and have a place where you can do exercise stuff for an hour or two for most nights of the week. NO gym required but probably weights, you have to figure out what you're doing, you have to do it persistently because it will take years, you don't have to sweat and suffer and be in lots of pain but you have to be able to step up your weights when they get easy, over months and years. Bunch of different lifts and things, three sets of ten and then watch TV or whatever, and o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 06:43 PM
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I did too. The skinny dude with the cowboy hat might not have big arms but damn, that man must eat like a bird, there's no mistaking that 'chiseled' look whether muscley or lean. The standing guys with Sean Connery in white speedos don't look anything like that. It's way easier to get to look like the standing guys if you're patient and keep it up, and sayittentimesfast is doing what you do, give it about four or five years and it's really no trick at all. 'Jensen Ackles shirtless', if you mean …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 06:28 PM
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That's absurd, if it's true. I repeat, if I suck in my gut as hard as they're doing, I wouldn't look that different from that picture (not the OP swimmer picture: I'm no swimmer). All I have to do is some simple free weight exercises and situps and pushups etc, for a little over an hour five nights a week, not even to the point of being in agony, and also evolve my diet to where it keeps me under 180 pounds (can't get under 175, though). I admit I had to keep getting newer free weights, sort of …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 06:01 PM
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Is it, though? Those guys are all sucking in their guts super hard. I can look pretty close to that if I suck in my gut super hard, and I'm not a gym guy, I just exercise with free weights and keep an eye on my diet. Those are good looking guys but surely that's not lots of muscle?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 03:22 PM
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I guess it just goes to show you that AMERICA F YEAH :D
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:46 AM
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That's a really good analogy on so many levels…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 11:55 AM
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After all, there’s no masturbation for the heart. Yes there is. American Idol, etc :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 03:28 PM
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That, or if you have the right pan, flip it around until it forms into an ovoid shape and cook it a little extra on each side. Not the easiest method, but fun and a bit extra :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 12:27 PM
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This is legit. Not everybody likes that, but I think it is a male thing. I'm pretty sure that when women are into Spock, it's this that they mean. A man can be a lighthouse on a rock. Ocean won't budge him, if he's gonna be there he's gonna be there. If that light goes out, it won't be from what you did to him, it'll be from something else he saw.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 12:23 PM
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No, that's just stupid. It's far more subjective than that. If a guy's physical type is buxom hourglass booty explosion, that's time-limited barring getting a lot of work done. Age will make stuff sag, for guys as well as women. That's a really specific type. It's the most fragile type to aging: balloons on toothpicks, anime style (and not even EVERY anime style). That's the female equivalent of rich, six foot and seven inches. It's not normal. I'm into lil' pixie ladies, those who like being to…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 04:26 PM
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That's deeply submissive, as a description, to the point of requiring a BDSM-like understanding. So what you're saying is that she REQUIRES you to put effort into being a responsible dominant, because if you don't she'll go so passive that her needs are not met. As long as you're okay with that, cool. It would be abusive toward me if it was me in that situation, which it isn't. I've got enough responsibilities without someone I love placing that added responsibility on me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:10 PM
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Never be a dom :) I'm not BDSM enough to get into those situations willingly, but even I know enough to say, dear God man, never be a dom if that's what you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 07:06 PM
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Oddly, that seems plausible to me because I've argued with you, TheGreatBeefSupreme, on the internet :) I can't speak for every situation, obviously, but I disagreed with you on a point, provided an alternate perspective, and saw you go 'yeah OK'. That is the picture of someone who can be trusted to 'order someone about' safely, because if a contrary perspective makes sense, you'll pick up on it without bluster. I aspire to that model of 'carrying the weight' in a relationship, should I end up i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 06:59 PM
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I'm very interested in the genetic algorithm as it applies to AI, so I'm not disagreeing about that part. 100% true, significant, important. I'm seeing you suggest 'men do X thing TO enhance reproductive success' and that, I sharply criticise. You're ascribing intentionality to what is a blind force. That's the missing piece: don't be attributing intentions and purpose to a brainless storm, either of literal weather or the figurative storm of animal urges and chemistry. Otherwise you'll end up a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:35 PM
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Rationalization. You're looking at outcomes and trying to construct sensible reasons for things that are as powerful and senseless as tornadoes and thunderstorms. People are rationalizations riding on the backs of broncos called 'instinctual animal drives', and this neatly sums up a lot of redpill/blackpill content. The full redpill stuff is usually insisting that this is ALL there is, and there's no interplay between that and being civilized. The full bluepill stuff is usually insisting that an…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:18 PM
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Gay men are still horny. Trust me on this XD I honestly don't know if asexual men tend to be less driven to achievement. I would imagine there's at least some correlation. Not about 'wanting a better world' or anything like that, but there must be a correlation between being a chill, grass-eater asexual man without carnal desires, and also being more passive and less likely to fiercely pursue some goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:11 PM
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I don't think so. I think it's the same drive. I don't think it's 'for the sake of women' at all. It's just another manifestation of those energies. It's the same drive that has men who're already with a woman, chasing other tail they don't even need. It's the same if gay men have the same behavior, and they're not even chasing women. Rationalizations come after instinctual/hormonal drives, and managing those drives is a whole other thing. Reminds me of the stories of 'grass eater' guys in Japan…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:08 PM
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I can't argue with this in the least. What I would add is this: life is funny, too! Being a big joke doesn't mean it has to be a mean-spirited joke. Think absurdity rather than 'hurtful prank on somebody'. Because the thing is, sometimes 'take it terribly, gravely serious!' is a red flag. We're all bozos on this bus. We do the best we can. In romance, people often seek the silver bullet to make everything better… and that's the bullet that backfires and leads to terrible distress. Being human is…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:40 PM
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Seems like a lot of them are 'be a massive stoner and date other stoners and make that be your whole world!'. Big if true. I hadda give it up, so that's some discouraging advice from where I'm standing. How about no? But you do you. There's no hopeless stoner like a romantically hopeless stoner who doesn't know how to talk to women. It took me twenty years to gain even some of the dating skills I skipped when I became a massive stoner as a kid. If I could go back I'd tell myself not to be the ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 11:47 AM
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On the bright side… ;) it's 2023. EVERYBODY has to be remarkable in some way, so autistic people get a bit of a head start. If you think being neurotypical is going to get you anything in the modern world you're in for a world of hurt: the modern world has learned to exploit the extra effort put in by people like autistic people, and applies that bar to everyone because it can. So yeah, be as neurotypical as you want, you still have to be remarkable or you're nowhere. Little red pill streak popp…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 11:14 AM
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I gradually learned that my lifework is a private thing. Weirdly, it's like my Dad's work, and he was a scientist doing government contracts, so he had formal reasons for being an absolute wall. There is no technical reason I would have to be that guarded. It's just that the world I've built inside my field of work is so personalized, that absolutely nobody cares about the details. It's like a musician practicing scales. I might be really interested in little breakthroughs I get, the musician mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 11:08 AM
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Well (another autistic looksmaxxer here) the thing is you don't have to GO to a gym. I lift free weights five days a week, on a little routine. It definitely counts, but you probably don't want to go for a 'gym guy' look of being all musclebound. I shoot for your Captain America movie look, but don't get even halfway, just enough to be just barely tapering from broad shoulders to chest to thinner waist, including in profile, when of course sucking in the gut (anybody including Chris Evans can po…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 11:00 AM
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I got a big kick out of the original Queer Eye. All that stuff about grooming, and so many of those guys being made over were so relatably neurodivergent. I think as an autistic you can be detail-oriented and stoic in a way that lends itself to looksmaxxing. Like plucking stray hairs. Weird random nose hair that will hurt like hell to yank out? Big deal (yank). You get in the habit of looksmaxxing, and it has all sorts of uses.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 10:52 AM
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Big if true
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 10:47 AM
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All of this. You WANT to polarize people, just the same as if you're making art, because there is no one target. I quite recently dated somebody and went really far with it, and I broke off the relationship myself because of some irreconcilable differences and issues. But the struggle part wasn't really the problem (sometimes it kind of was?) because it's also normal to put work into something like that. There's a freak for every freak AND you still will end up putting a lot of effort in, as wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 10:46 AM
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Nah. Liberalism vs conservatism is basically egalatarianism vs hierarchy. You can be the manliest man-man ever, and still dedicate your life and use your courage to defend the group, the tribe, the herd if you like, especially the weakest, because your belief system is that doing this protecting is moral. Right-wingyness tends to act like being masculine is fighting everybody to triumph against them. Like if you're part of a herd of zebras and a crocodile is attacking 'em, you're maybe going to …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 12:34 PM
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Fair enough man. That's the thing, you're the kind of right winger I can really get along with as an equally fervent left winger. There are many kinds of people and you can't simply boil it down to 'liberal vs conservative' and then start purity testing to define what that even means. I'm generally suspicious of anyone on either side who's like 'oh, you're on my side? Here's a pile of extra positions that you MUST adopt or I'm gonna call you the enemy'. It's nothing but peer pressure and I figur…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 12:23 PM
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Yup! You can't confuse engagement with legitimacy. The fact is, it's profitable to brainwash people to intensify their belief systems, because they'll engage with your platform. It's a lot like feeding people extra salt and sugar in their food, to get them to select your food in a marketplace. You can do harm to people in order to influence their behavior, and you can't go by 'they liked it!' to tell you it's good for them. Social media algorithms are the same way. Unhealthy obsessed people cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 12:17 PM
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I completely disagree… kinda. I'm masculine enough that it's been a problem for me throughout life but absolutely committed to a particular set of left wing positions, including some gender/sexual ones. The stuff that I'll defend, I see no incongruity about. There is a KIND of left wing man which is kinda like 'tumbler lefty' or 'twitter tankie' left wing, which is definitely more effeminate, and that's a different set of positions that I'm not going to put up with. And yeah, I don't think that'…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 12:09 PM
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…which involves the optimism of BECOMING the right person of being you, at which point it more easily clicks with a compatible other person. And that's why I know I can never be fully red pill no matter what happens, because I know most of the work that's there for me to do is work ON me, which will be there regardless of whether I'm with someone or not. To insist on that and then say also that it will inevitably bring a loving relationship, is full blue pill. Guys like me have always run the ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 03:15 PM
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That or you're just pairbonded and so is he, and your family is being nice or doesn't know any better, and the both of you are just ordinary and it's working out JUST FINE for both of you :) In other words, maybe you're not special, it's just that pairbonding is way easier and more common than OP thinks it is, and furthermore isn't giving people 'magical forever love partners', just other humans to be with. Turns out, that happens, and it's normal, and it's fine when you can get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 03:06 PM
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Because to commit to this bit involves dedicating yourself to ALWAYS being dissatisfied and looking for more, which is a kind of addiction, and like addiction it's really unpleasant to experience. Successfully do this enough and you'll end up increasingly desperate to be done with it, and increasingly unable to let it go. You describe this like it's a great fun privileged thing that all women will embrace, but it'd be hell on earth for most of them (well over 50% I'm guessing). Even men won't go…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 03:02 PM
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Dude doesn't understand 'yours'. More than that, dude is literally insisting from 2023 and beyond, there is NO SUCH CONCEPT as 'yours', no exceptions. Points for committing to the bit, at least? Only committment this guy's ever gonna let himself make. Me, I don't bail until the zeppelin is literally on fire, crashing, AND exploding, but then I guess I'm from an older generation. Since he's all over the thread: listen, go look up Dunbar's number. You do NOT need an internet's worth of 'options' t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 02:53 PM
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That seems like a lot of pressure to put on people to get laid. I'm not sure I'm down with your methodology there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 07:12 PM
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There's a five-factor model to personality: neuroticism, extraversion, conscientiousness, agreeableness, and openness to experience. 'nice guy-ness' is, more than anything, agreeableness. People tend to associate agreeableness with women, and disagreeableness with men. People who've either gone on testosterone, or had their testosterone production blocked by illness, have reported huge changes in agreeableness. Trans guys get more pushy and dissatisfied, and men whose testosterone fails get all …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 11:41 AM
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This seems fair. The blue pill side is what's going to help you with point 2, not being toxic and finding out how to do better. I think (from observation and personal experience) that the part of RP that directly attacks males falling in love, has its uses. I think for healthy, wealthy, socially deft men, they can fall madly in love and it's just fine, they hook up with women and manage their differences and it works. If you're the type that's vulnerable to RP, it's by definition not that easy, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 12:54 PM
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Keanu would not approve of being used in this context for this purpose ;) I guess maybe you don't qualify for finding out about this, but I'm unironically jealous of womens' orgasmic capability. I'm not talking about watching porn, I mean when you've been real up close there and you're the focus of it, wow. As a guy it's just boom, subside, done. It's all build-up and that's cool and all, but it's nice that pleasure isn't the only purpose in life, because if it was women would have us all beat S…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 12:33 PM
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Not exactly. You're missing important distinctions here, though it seems like your conclusion's okay. A 'rape fantasy' is a STORY. It's a make-believe, and for a lot of the stuff in this thread, it's a make-believe happening to somebody who's also a story, who isn't a real woman or even a person. Fiction. Hence the name 'fantasy'. There is no 'consent to a concept that is seemingly non-consensual' because rape fantasy is not rape, it's a story. To go out and start acting as if women want real li…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:38 PM
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wat? The only part of that which actually throws me is obese, and that's just libido, arbitrary and not a value judgement. Feminists are rad, woke mindset is awesome and only sucks when it's scolding as a pretext to just simp for Russia (not uncommon, doesn't count as awesome), purple hair is fine, and being constantly challenged is GOOD. The only thing I would add is, expect to be constantly challenged right back. If that fails, I'm gone, because if it's about being provoked with constant chall…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 10:32 AM
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Then leave. I don't get this longing for the completely subservient, undemanding, virginal woman. Take your freaking chances. See how you stack up. Have some fun, care a little, see where it goes. If it doesn't work out, leave. RP guys describe these hells of being totally manipulated and abused, and it's like they assume they can't leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 09:40 AM
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Bond has freaking awesome grooming. Because he's played by a succession of movie stars, and they have awesome grooming to look good on the big screen. You can take an interest in that. Queer Eye it up a little, and when you look in the mirror you can go 'damn, that's pretty fine'. 'fat slob' and 'jacked muscle beast' are NOT the only options here. If you had a fancy hunting rifle, would you polish and labor over the beautiful stock and buff it to a gleaming shine? You can fuss over your looks. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 09:27 AM
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Also, I love the suggestion that women of old wouldn't ball random guys. The ol' barnyard dance never changes. The idea that back in the olden days women were faithful and knew their place, is about as plausible as the idea that men didn't run around screwing everything that didn't move too fast to catch. Apples be ripe, nuts be brown…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 09:19 AM
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Wow. Bitter, much? Obsessed, much? My best friend was a dude who was making his life better. He went to school (as an old guy) and pushed me to do likewise, he worked to get credentials to be not just a recovery coach but a pretty white-collar dude: not medical school, mind you, but a whole class of employment that was only achievable through that schooling. He died, of heart failure, not because of his efforts but because his heart was literally fucked up and broke one day. It would've done the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 09:11 AM
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I asked a guy once what he did w.r.t weight lifting or gym-going. He was a roofer. I was a naive idiot :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 10:41 PM
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The funny thing about this is, it makes the nerdy STEM guys much more able to be used and manipulated. I've only had one marriage and one extended SO and a couple hot dates in my life, and after all that I've ended up probably about as unafraid of women as a blue collar plumber or roofer: far from a red pill pimp-lord, but I can take or leave that whole scene, there are no fantasies anymore. This jaded quality is probably a big help for any woman trying to deal with me as you get more honest and…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 10:39 PM
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I want somebody who's good at it, and whose style meshes with mine. I don't think that's unreasonable, it just might not always work out. I think it would take a pretty high body count before I'm not the best she had, statistically… and there are a lot of dealbreakers where somebody could be better at sex but still be a complete nightmare. So I don't give a fuck about body count, not in the least. I guess most red pill guys badly need to hide that they're not me? Heh :)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 01:29 PM
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It's like parts of it are common sense and parts of it are frantic neediness and subservience :)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 01:11 PM
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Lying is a miserable way to exist, and it's ridiculous to choose it on purpose. No matter what color pill you are, 'goblin mode' is better. Be how you want to be, own it, live with it. Weaseling out of this is cowardly, and a guy making the arguments of OP is unmanly and weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 12:57 PM
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What makes this tricky is that you HAVE to get to know (as a person) whoever you're ending up having sex with. Whether it's because you're a functioning human being who gives a shit about others, or simply for basic self-protection, you cannot do cold approach and then cold courtship and cold fucking and then cold harem-maintaining (even with just one woman at a time!). You just can't. It won't work. It's ridiculous and setting you up for failure and betrayal. So at what point do you open up? Kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 10:59 AM
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Steven Crowder? Tim Pool? (I mean, Crowder had a weird chest and Pool is kind of geeky, but man-wise they are FINE. It's their minds that are the problem, that and where they get their funding. And Pool in particular is known for inceldom, with Crowder clearly joining him.)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:55 PM
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Bah, everybody's lonely and bitter. I'm lonely and bitter. Welcome to 2023 XD The point is what you DO with that, and I take great issue with what Peterson's done with his damage. The less he matters, the better off we all are. He squandered the potential to be very decent and useful, and I've got no sympathy whatever. And you know, I don't personally find it all that funny, and I'm not mocking him. I am damned well condemning what he's done.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:52 PM
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That's the only argument I have any sympathy for. I'm inclined to cut slack for people who are really, seriously, suffering. I'm inclined to yank that sympathy sharply back when the person turns around and lashes out at others over stuff that's very much their problem, particularly when they are platformed and have positions of power. Using your hurt to punch down is an explanation, not in any way an excuse. He needs to shape the heck up, and until he does, I figure mockery is fair. He would cer…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:48 PM
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My concern here is, how do you know? I'm in recovery and go to meetings, typically with mixed male/female attendance (I'm really not interested in going to male-only meetings: I have enough maleness already and don't need any more). As such I've got upwards of thirty years of experience observing how women relate to the men in their lives, especially in conversation outside the meeting. It doesn't always make sense, how female desire works. It absolutely doesn't register as 'they seek money and …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 11:03 AM
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See, there you're contradicting what I said. I repeat, I'd believe 1 in 50, 1 in 100. You're flipping that with 'virtually ALL' and it seems like you don't really mean the 'virtually', that's hedging. You're out of your mind if you think 99 out of 100 women are looking for a good enough offer to flip their lives upside down and become cheaters. That's mighty trusting of them, given the low opinion women often have of men. As if men aren't constantly giving 'offers' that are pure bullshit, which …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:20 PM
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Give me some credit, I was a virgin until I was 28 years old (and I'm six foot and pretty well hung). I understand that. Of all people, I'm one of the people who understands it the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 12:00 PM
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Never seen 'seenzoned' before. Does that imply a class of women who're trying to online date, and expect to stumble across literal love at first sight from a profile picture? Hoo BOY do I NOT want to be the profile a woman like that fixates on. That's a terrible way to get involved with another person. Imagine trying to be with someone who was like 'I had second thoughts about all these other profiles I've seen and discarded, but I'm all in on you! Who are you, my forever love?'
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 11:01 AM
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Yeah, that's a weird way to frame it. Even the wildest, most promiscuous women I've ever known, don't seem to see it in that light. Is it too much to suggest that getting past that weird framing, is the main way to get with women? I sure as hell wasn't seeing it in that light, ANY of the times I got with women. That's not how any of this works…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:53 AM
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…and this is for good reason, particularly since the kind OP is talking about are straight women looking for dominant, manly males. They're lion tamers, except they're actively not looking for TOO 'tame'. They're looking to get pounced and mated by big sexy creatures (of human form, at least outside some pretty wild writing fandoms! looking at you, Omegaverse) Women have every reason to be insecure about what they're trying to do (or have done to them). Sexy and fulfilling it may be, but when yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 10:47 AM
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-gible :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 12:17 AM
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this (explicit warning) Holy crap, RIP my recommendations. Careful with that link, folks, youtube gets a blackpill boner for you INSTANTLY. Damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 10:11 AM
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Wouldn't that make him a sexier Travis Bickle? Problem kinda worsened.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 10:09 AM
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Why do you want them to go away so badly? 'New' implies that if you have a fantastic time with one girl, you want to not have it again and roll the dice on another. Even if you ignore the exploitation and your lack of humanity it seems like you're missing something. If girls are totally fungible, are men also totally fungible? Are you totally fungible?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 10:08 AM
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Particularly when it isn't 'men not having their masculinity properly celebrated by society', it's capitalism and oligarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 03:48 PM
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When I hear people say this stuff I can't help but ask, "what if actually you just want chaos and violence, and this is as good an excuse as any?" I'm just as happy to check out of society but it doesn't make me want chaos and violence, never did. Maybe that's on you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 06:08 PM
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How is that a friend zone? On the one hand that's like an 'animal zone', to have sex with but not treat like a person, and on the other hand women are well known for refusing to believe such a thing. It seems like women are prone to believe any man they have sex with is capable of also being a friend, confidant, perhaps even reformed person, if only they tried hard enough. Looks to me like 'zones' of all kinds tend to be a phenomenon of certain kinds of guy: maybe a predisposition of all of us, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 09:42 AM
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If you can thrive in isolation, your center is within yourself and not supposedly in the possession of somebody else. If you're confident in your own belief system you don't have to defend it in a panicky way as if someone else can take it away from you, and you're open to further develop it by testing whether your assumptions are true or false, and evolve rather than assuming you're destroyed if there's a single chink in your armor. Read up on stoicism (not bro-icism: don't listen to what red p…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 12:48 PM
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That isn't strictly a male/female thing, though. If you have any friend who acts that way, and it can just as easily be a male friend, you're allowed to not go along with it. Even family members. If you're being asked to do stuff, always and only on THEIR terms, walking away is an option. (edit: I would not have imagined this would be contentious at all! What is bugging people about this? The idea that males can do this, or that family members can be walked away from? Curious whether it's toxic-…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:36 AM
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If I don't want to do something, I won't. Can't speak for you, but you're describing a sort of man who has to stay away from even being friendly with women because he has no boundaries and does whatever they say (and whatever his male friends say, too?) and assumes everybody else is just like him. Have boundaries, then you can be friends with anybody you like, male or female, and you don't have to be sucked in to anything you don't want to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:33 AM
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That difference only exists in the man, I think, which makes it suspect. In this overall conversation, there's a big difference between if the rejecting woman is like 'ew, don't talk to me', or if she's been friendly and taking an interest and being sociable the whole time AS IF the guy was a friend, and then he turns on her because she won't fuck. It doesn't sound like she'd ever been treating him as a friend: as described, her asking him for a ride was a desperate act (and unwise: why would yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:22 AM
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You need to be able to separate affection from sexual desire, and quit thinking 'women' are just these brainless mechanisms pursuing sexual desire. It's just not that simple. I've recently left a relationship (well, in the last half-year) and I have multiple female friends through some shared interests. When I'm hanging around socially with the larger friend group that has both men and women, more than one of these female friends have literally petted me or even given me a kiss. That is absolute…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 11:59 AM
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Or male, clearly. Gay dudes don't seek women, but it's still the same issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 09:35 AM
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Since this isn't a CMV there's no problem with me simply agreeing. The one thing I'd point out is that I wasn't getting exposed to a healthy relationship from my own parents so I wouldn't have had a clear path even if I'd had a teen romance… and in fact I did have several teen romances, every one of them unrequited and every one of them formative. Feeling unwanted isn't the only outcome. You'll still be imprinting like a duckling on whoever you fall in love with, and then will carry that through…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 09:32 AM
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My argument with this view is as follows: strike the word 'girl' and replace it with 'human'. A lot of this has to do with humans being raised poorly and without support, affection etc. causing them to have very limited ability to extend it to others. You can't really give what you didn't have, though usually it's possible to do somewhat better with a bit of effort. If you think this is a vice having to do with women, you're insane. Women are probably LESS prone to this one, though it's still a …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 04:28 PM
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I'd believe 1 in 50 or 1 in 100. I think 1 in 500 is pushing it. Otherwise, I agree with this take.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 10:51 PM
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Sure they do. Guys who are into guys should be screwing guys, not cutting notches representing exploited women just to excite their bros. There's a whole kind of human interaction around men and women fucking that is cheapened by these stunts and I don't care how Chadly the men are, if they're not excited BY the women they should be with the men. When the PUAs start talking like squeamish gay men, I get suspicious. It MATTERS to women, to find a man and bring him home and ball him and cook for h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 10:54 AM
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I'm going to guess it's when 'game' becomes the end, and it stops being about finding a mate and starts being about cutting notches to impress other men. I would agree there's a type of man who's acting out with PUA tactics and using women as peacock feathers to display for his bros, who should probably just quit lying to himself and fuck the bros directly, since his whole focus and love is on them with none of it on the women he fucks. If you're not liking the women but impressing your bros is …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 10:35 AM
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Beautiful example. Dale Carnegie is like the proto-PUA, generalized to all humans. It's been a while but I've read that book and I'd bet money that at least a few PUA techniques are literally in there, just in general form (make men/women/your boss/etc like you and do nice things for you). If anybody would like a more ethical window into this sort of thing, you could do a lot worse. In more modern times, you've got Guy Kawasaki, writing books on how to enchant customers or investors, and Guy wal…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 10:28 AM
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I'm gonna side with Epic Username here. It's absurd to argue that 'no woman who falls for such tactics is good', because it's codified and weaponized attempts to exploit natural human behavior… more than that, animal behavior. Our lizard brains run the show. Our human minds run along afterward, to supply rationalizations AND second guesses. That's the value of it. Anyone saying they never fall for this stuff is saying they've got their lizard brain walled off so much they can't even see it… whic…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 10:19 AM
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Serious question, if that's better, why aren't you looking for a boy? If that was better for me I'd have been a lot busier in bed all my life XD
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:13 PM
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Whether or not his ethos is authentic or a huge fake and ripoff, it's hard to find that many authentically worse people than him. Being troubled and confused is par for the course. It's what you do about it that matters, and his track record is bad, and the dude is distorting masculine traits like a funhouse mirror. He's a Joe Pesci loose cannon like in Goodfellas, the guy whom the other gangsters get worried about. Either for real, or it's a pose he plays to get other people to adopt.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:12 PM
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Can't speak for feminism, but it's most certainly not incompatible with progressivism. Particularly post-Ukraine-invasion. There are pragmatic reasons to be a fit leftist in a world where authoritarianism runs amok. I've been looking askance at supposed leftists who take the attitudes you describe. Yeah, these guys exist and spend a lot of effort trying to cancel other leftists, but it seems a lot of them are actually psyops. Real progressives (again, can't speak for feminists) touch grass, get …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 06:08 PM
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Since when are conservatives or Tate the least bit stoic? They seem frequently hysterical and desperate to me. This whole PPD post is the anti-stoic, and it's very much in line with conservative complaint/whine culture. Tate has been whiny, defensive, posturing, and when being let out of jail he sold out all his professed beliefs to stay out of trouble, and talked a lot of placating nonsense that didn't represent the belief system that got him a following. Your own arguments seem ridiculous, yet…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:57 PM
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I have the same objection. I'd look to Sam Keen or whoever, for masculinity as masculinity. Tate doesn't qualify. He's an over-reacting creep probably driven by insecurity or closeted homosexuality, and I have no time for him. He's about as close to masculinity as the mega church pastor is to Christianity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 05:45 PM
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I'm a lot older than you and was more isolated when I was your age. So for me, it's an upgrade, in that I thought it was just me. So basically I was blackpill before anybody had invented and popularized it, I found different things to do with my life, and all the Purple Pill Debate things are an upgrade (or a reminder of attitudes I don't have to have anymore) :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 05:48 PM
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Dunno. I think if you run with ideas like 'women are the choosers and the man is the beggar' you're taking a strangely feminist stance: you are assuming that most women, as women, will be just as happy to pursue, and just as happy with a man being on the passive side of things. I think that's possible, but unlikely. One of my red-pill-isms is a growing belief that women and men really work quite differently, but I think it's insane to frame this all from a man perspective and behave like women m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 12:59 PM
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…who're For lack of an apostrophe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 04:48 PM
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What if you are just an obvious resentful asshole, but also 5'10"? What's she going to be able to say that will shut you down if you're going for her? She can't just not say anything, because you (hypothetical 5'10" asshole you, not necessarily real you :) ) will be certain women are extremely passive. If she doesn't say a no, you won't stop. If she says 'no, you look like an obvious resentful asshole' that's dangerous. You might kill her, but failing that the first thing you're going to do is g…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 08:42 PM
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I've seen stuff about that. Viral women going off on creepy guys (some of whom are fit, some of whom aren't so fit). In every case I've seen, the woman's tiktoking or instagramming and has a camera set up just right, to illustrate her hotness and not just ability to lift. It's real tricky because they ain't doing it for the other gym goers, they're doing it for TikTok or Instagram. So they're stripping down in skintight clothing and trying to find camera angles that'll work to be competitive on …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:59 PM
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Which is why women's self improvement needs to be on a deeper level: women going by 'chemistry' is a potentially deadly trap. Part of the reason redpill guys are so freaked out is, women are doing better at stepping back and thinking. Sometimes, stepping so far back that they're not even there anymore… it's a survival issue. When the triggers for 'chemistry' are skin-deep, that's a real lottery right there, and when failing means 'oops, better luck in your next life' it's correct to back the hec…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:42 AM
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I would love to see the lady sabre-toothed tiger who goes all wobbly and squishy over a human Chad jawline and skull shape. That's hilarious. Face it, there aren't any universal traits. It's incredibly subjective. You're just spotting stuff which is generally popular, and trying to argue that it's all on the scale of a sort of North Star of chadliness. You're right about the underlying pull, but you have no idea how diverse and arbitrary that pull can be. And getting caught up in hyperanalysis o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:34 AM
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Does this apply to men, too? 'cos I'm damned if I'm gonna get stuck with the 'ideal woman' archetype. I'm super interested in some distinct sorts of women who by other people's standards are big failures, and who sometimes even stress out over that. I have no trouble seeing that the same will hold for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:27 AM
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That's exactly why I call myself purple pilled. Endorsed, wholeheartedly. I think part of the red-pill flavor in there is that question, 'how do I become the sort of person that a ____ woman likes'? That's tricky and redpill because you can't devote your life to pleasing a fantasy or an archetype. Full blue pill would be 'hugs, there is somebody for everybody, put on a smile and love yourself juuuust the way you are'. Bull. It's not that simple. Dating and relationships are tricky and being that…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:20 AM
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This. Also I wanna call you (original debater) out on a really serious, fundamental mistake. There is not ONE target. You are insane if you think that. You've got this picture of the uberChad, and you can keep loading him up with prizes and unreachable bonuses… the million dollars, the eight inch dick, the six-pack abs, that jawline… friends with celebrities! A celebrity himself! A BILLION dollars! keeps a harem of subservient women!… Every step of the way you're adding conditions that SOME perf…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:04 AM
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or attracting the right men for themselves whoof! Oh no no. There are SO many women worrying about that one, possibly more of them than all the incel men put together.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 06:57 PM
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There's a lot of unhealthy PEOPLE, and I think there are way more women telling women they need to improve, than men telling men :) define 'improve'. Do you mean 'telling women they need to be better at appealing to unappealing men'?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:39 AM
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Any man who's a murderer, serial killer or drug dealer/criminal kingpin literally cannot be a man who's submissive to women, society, or others. (I'm not talking about the doormat who snaps one day, I'm talking about your alpha criminal guy, mobsters and pimps and such). If you think it's the criminality that is the attraction to women, you're being very confused. The thing those men have that incels don't have is arrogance, certainty, confidence. Those are people who aren't asking permission. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:30 AM
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A lot of bullying, toxic guys are actually very weak and constantly acting out, posturing to hide their great weakness. Maybe what attracts you to your husband is that he's strong enough that he has no need to bully and posture etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:20 AM
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That guy's a fool in so many ways, but this isn't one of them. Disagreeableness can be harnessed and it can be a key masculine trait, that and dissatisfaction. And nothing is stopping you from also being kind, because kind doesn't mean being a doormat. It's absolutely the same in the dating world. Women are attracted to strong over weak, active over passive, and just because dark triad sociopaths are good at looking strong and active doesn't mean it's those dark traits women are attracted to. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:16 AM
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These things aren't synonyms. As a guy interested in stoicism, those 'virtues' cover a pretty wide range, even a contradictory range. Kindness is about being empathetic and valuing the well-being of others. Sweetness is NEEDING to attend to the well-being of others. Patience is being able to sit with a situation that's not ideal and get through it without freaking out, and Selflessness is either a Zen meaninglessness or nihilist thing, or valuing something outside yourself as a virtue. I mean, y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 10:47 AM
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I disagree. Random scattered MGTOW might tend towards independent thought, but red pillers seem to me to be follower types looking for role models, especially the young ones. As such, bad appleness spreads even more to them than it'd otherwise do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 09:33 PM
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Or indeed think about other mens' dicks or even ride a few off into the sunset. Damn good way to lose virginity 'cos men are waaaay easier to pick up. If you're gay, then hey you might like that better, and life gets a lot easier not having to contend with the opposite gender. If you're not gay, then it will not satisfy you and you'll keep on falling for women and the gays will say the dark side calls you :D ya can't pray away the straight!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 09:25 PM
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This. Genders can have basic animalistic drives of various kinds, but society is built out of managing those drives and collectively finding rules and expectations for how people behave: and this is a lot of work. My biggest fault with red pill types is a reversion to childish whims. You're allowed to want stuff, even passionately. Getting what you want is a whole other story.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 09:19 PM
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For me, choosing that flair is because I have profoundly blue pill reasoning but profoundly red pill experience. Hence, purple. My experience is so red or black pill that it's hard to imagine better credentials for it, but my conclusions and observations are very blue pill, from a red pill vantage point. I think it's worth trying to find a synthesis, and there are few other places as fervent about either finding or denying that synthesis :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 09:15 PM
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In fairness, the whole point of the apple analogy is that when you have apples, the ones that are rotten turn the other ones rotten real quick. I think it's pretty fair to estimate the state of the barrel based on what surface bad apples are observable and how rotten they are, 'cos in the middle of the barrel it's liable to be worse :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 09:11 PM
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News is 'if it bleeds, it leads'. When underground crazy comes to light, it garners lots of attention and law enforcement action, as we've seen. When the leaders of a movement grooming children turn out to be sex trafficking unrepentant criminals, that's about as newsworthy as it gets! It's like finding a secret conspiracy to destroy the world. The whole energy of the newsworthiness is that it is shocking and against the general consensus of how the world works, otherwise it would be of no inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 09:07 PM
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That has happened twice, once to the point of marriage. I am working on attracting a tamer quality of 'nice', the women I've been with longterm have been some of the most amazing people I've ever met, but I wasn't compatible with some of their struggles, and each time I had learning to do in my own right :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 02:34 PM
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Thanks! It was hard and slow to arrive at. And yeah, checking yourself is valuable… and for me, that's when friendships with unavailable women come in handy. Women are QUICK to judge other women, and read how situations are being handled with a deftness and insight that I will never have. But they're also easily wounded by these social situations in a way that I will never be…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 10:57 AM
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I think some of the trouble with telling people 'quirks' is that it comes off as 'you have to cope with this now'. I've drifted away from the sense that you've got to tell potential romantic partners of all your possible dealbreakers on the grounds that you don't owe them an explanation for why you might be incompatible. And that's because defining and being aware of where you might be incompatible… may not be any use at all. So it turns from a defensive thing, into something else. Rather than h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:20 AM
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I'm both of you guys: lost my virginity at 28, now mid-fifties, have autism, pretty much exactly the same scenario. I don't think my dating world was as hostile as the one today, but at the time I was grappling with serious family of origin issues and being a drug addict as a response (found step recovery for both of those things, which suited me well) I think if I had a message for younger me it was that I was doing fine and as bad as it seemed, I wasn't guilty of choosing wrongly. There was no…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:08 AM
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I prefer being discarded, to being in the wrong relationship. The catch for me is, for being discarded it's one and done. I won't go back if I've been in what I thought was a loving relationship and have been discarded… or if I have felt that in spite of the loving relationship, enough else was wrong that I was the one to do the discarding. What will REALLY hurt you is trying to fight that and go back, or get taken back. Once faith is broken, get out of there. You learned you were in the wrong p…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 04:51 PM
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Spoke like a dude who has not been laid enough to experience the adage about sticking your dick in crazy. (or, you can substitute 'incompatible' and it still counts) Anybody with serious experience is going to have a great deal of pause in that situation. If you're hot enough that women can and do fall on said dick and get stuck and want to keep it and you, that's doubly concerning. You have to take the interpersonal thing seriously, and you have to think about myriad other things. If other dude…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 04:47 PM
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No, it's not 'can't', you shouldn't, because those people are weak idiots. There's plenty of people who have tried to talk about male perspective, even with some similar takes, but without being petulant desperate children. Robert Bly, Sam Keen, heck you could read Neil Strauss's followup to his pickup artist book, "The Truth". He even got divorced so you know he is relatable to the Tate crowd, he's just a lot more conscious about where he's at. You could listen to youtubers like Beau of the Fif…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 01:43 PM
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I suspect you will, because you've got distinct preferences and opinions about things. Stay on target and wait for the guys to grow up, or find ones who're less social. You'd have liked me on several grounds if you were around when I was your age, but would have had problems as I hadn't grown up yet. Also I might have flinched in the belief that you were waaaaay out of my league :) First order of business is continue taking care of yourself and avoid bitterness as best you can. You'll do fine :)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 04:17 PM
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Depends on whether you mean capital M-Men. One of the most annoying and off-putting things about traditionally socialized men is a culture of heightened rivalry and machismo, where they are obligated to snipe at each other constantly and never tell each other positive things for fear of being called homosexuals, and must turn to exclusively women to get any positiveness at all, which they're not allowed to acknowledge. It's a screwed-up system. Produces desperate people trying frantically to ach…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 11:14 AM
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No no. He would have to be specific. Average is bad, yes, but it's not simply one line, and the folks talking this way tend to assume it's literally one line from the worst ever, to 'Chad' and only 'Chad'. And that's not true at all, any more than it is for men being attracted to only 'Stacy'. Absolutely not true. He would have to be specific, not average. He has to be the best possible execution of whatever he's got going on. That means some fitness (but being insanely buff is one kind of extre…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 11:02 AM
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I agree with this. I'd add that there are caveats: it has to be in a context where dating could make sense. Meeting women in your therapy group or recovery meetings isn't the answer because those are things where you have more important business that shouldn't be undermined. It's also a waste of time to manufacture stuff you don't want to do, just for the purpose of meeting people. I feel like that can be misleading. Clearly there needs to be a social activity that's only undertaken by men and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 01:07 PM
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Oh my sweet summer child XD USENET had porn images. There were porn images on BBSes. You could get a modem for your Apple ][ and spend however many hours you needed to spend… I would bet any sum that a Nokia brick was able to do SOMETHING porny. I don't care if it had no screen. Someone came up with a way to play porn over it. Possibly in Morse code :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 07:39 PM
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That's not even getting into how GPT-3 AI boyfriends will obliterate male sexual bargaining power, in exactly the same way and for the same reason pictures are said to obliterate female sexual bargaining power :) Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, man… Ya know just possibly, people can bond together in other ways that are not 'battle of bargaining power'… but you won't hear it from these battlers making these arguments…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 07:27 PM
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You should hear when they are fighting with each other! :D Oh my god, if you think it's intense when women talk and bond about conflicts with men… I've read some interesting stuff about 'Gone Girl', which was written by a woman who wanted to get to write a full-on female villain. She was looking to explore female violence, described it as 'invasive', talked about how women entwine and how some of the nastiest relationships she'd ever seen had been women with women. There is SO much going on ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 11:55 AM
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Fair observation. I know when I was younger I tried to be gay. You can get off good and hard, but it ain't fair to real gays: I was thinking about female parts. And that is just cruel. Ended up about the least narrow straight you could find, but I couldn't move my straight/gay meter even when it had some gay in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 11:45 AM
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I'm sure this cuts both ways. Being able to understand the other gender isn't a given, but if you can get there, that's when their appeal, intelligence, depth etc. open up and become obvious to see.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 11:24 AM
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Sex is a minefield for me. I have autism, and am well favored to about the 'one in a hundred' mark: this is not the 'world record setter' kind but close to what a lot of women seek out in ultimate toys. So it's famine or feast, dating-wise. I have great difficulty getting into a sexual relationship but once I am, I'm quickly over my head and plans are being made around me, often ones which I'm not let in on. I get sort of captured as a prize, but then the attempts to remake me set in… So far I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 11:10 AM
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Not really. This is a debate forum about sex and gender issues: what I had to say was incredibly on-topic and the subreddit topic is incredibly relevant to thoughts I've had for a long time, looking at the situation out there. I had a recovery sponsor who had me reading progressive manspace authors (Sam Keen, Robert Bly) and I'm a working entrepreneur so I naturally take a sort of warriorlike angle to life, but I'm a leftie and stoic so I take great interest in applying that to benefitting the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 10:58 AM
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What, now? ;) jail aside, one definition of celibacy is the renunciation of marriage, not just sex alone. That guy might as well be jacking off with brillo pads for all the lovelessness that makes up his world. He absolutely renounces marriage or anything beyond rape, on principle, and would have you believe he does it on purpose, as some sort of power play. It just landed him in jail, and that will happen over and over until it sticks for good unless he grows up. He is a child leading children,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 12:29 AM
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Tate is the incelliest incel I ever saw. He is just also the pushiest and rapiest one I ever saw. I don't think he gets to be 'non-incel' when he's some sort of archetype for certain kinds of incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 06:06 PM
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To me that's the primary important area. I see no reason men can't be responsible for their actions. We have a whole legal system and the concept of 'crime' to establish and socialize that people don't just gratify their every impulse. I began to see what having a curbed libido was like when I got old enough (a few years over 50) to have enough erectile dysfunction that I wasn't sproinging into action like a teenage boy. It'd been maybe a decade since I'd tried, so it was an unwelcome surprise. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 05:47 PM
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If you're into sci-fi and/or fantasy you might like it. It seems like 'people except they're animals, and some are prey and some are predators. Now, imagine them sentient and trying to make a society with each other'. It seems to be exploring a lot of sexual and gender tropes that would be interesting to this subreddit! Stuff like a lion Mayor making a point of de-predatorizing his body to make him more electable. For 'sexual differences' read 'predator/prey differences'. Naturally since it's fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 02:46 PM
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You specify, felt comfortable afterwards. I think women get more out of this 'feeling comfortable' than men do, more easily find that with each other, and don't necessarily have to be having sex to have that with each other. Dunno if that qualifies as 'death'! I've also seen it described as 'lesbian nesting', which makes better sense to me. It's not the only thing that can happen. Sexually excited, voracious women is NOT a myth, lesbian or not. It's just that for a woman there's this whole other…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 02:38 PM
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It's just straight-up furry. Not even particularly extreme as furry goes. Degenerate is as degenerate does. Beastars is just pure furry, covering lots of the tropes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 02:10 PM
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Source: am writer (not for Netflix, but have studied scriptwriting quite a bit) How many writers for these shows are men, and how many of the executives hiring these writers are men? I've done a little research. Netflix is heavily data-driven. They'll be among the first to have ChatGPT write their stuff, and in practical terms data-driven properties are already that, just executed by human writers and executives. As a writer, if you're looking to go really commercial your job is not to give peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 02:04 PM
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Don't overgeneralize. I'm far from unique but unironically, absolutely would go for your initial quotes there. 'Nice girl' is a trope that can include nerdy, small, anti-thot, petite, feisty, etc etc etc, and people can be into ALL sorts of tropes. I would absolutely turn up my nose at a mega insta Kardashian with lots of makeup and implants. If I want a shelf for a glass I'll build one, rather than tell a woman to stand a certain way and use her titanic butt. Even if she is an hourglass that st…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 01:48 PM
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