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Beef eater. Cow pusher.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/11/18 04:12 AM
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I've been having a lot of weird luck gaining attraction from super hot girls lately, so I'm working on optimizing that, and moving it into comfort and seduction. Working out again. Learning some Lightnin' Hopkins songs. Really learning how to cook rather than just learning recipes. Last night I cooked for my fb. I made her baked chicken with a butter sage sauce, balsamic vinegar, and goat cheese. Never made it before, didn't use a recipe, it was friggin' incredible, and just off the top of my he…
/r/seduction25/06/12 02:27 PM
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This. One thing I've been using that has worked real well is taking something that a girl says to disqualify me and owning it, and then taking it over the top so she know's I'm joking. Scenario 1: Girl--Hey you're really sweet. PUA--No I'm not! I'm a bad boy! Not getting laid. Scenario 2: Girl--Hey you're really sweet! PUA--I am, aren't I? This is a step in the right direction, but not far enough. It doesn't take you out of the "cutsie zone" and back into the "attractive zone." Scenario 3: Girl:…
/r/seduction18/06/12 02:32 PM
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I always forget coffee!
/r/seduction17/06/12 06:32 PM
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You'd be surprised. Check out Gambler's stuff, and Tyler Durden's stuff. We get prequalified a lot more than we often realize. In fact, usually seduction isn't about saying the right thing to convince her to sleep with us, it's about her already being interested, and not convincing her it's a bad idea.
/r/seduction17/06/12 02:04 AM
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Lol, thanks! I used to dream up entire worlds when I was a kid. Seriously though, Richard La Ruina (Gambler) has got some great stuff on IOIs and prequalification. It's been about a year and a half since I went through it all so I forget the name of that program. I'd recommend his stuff if you can find it on sale or whatever. Tyler Durden too, talks a lot about the unconscious shit girls do when they're turned on.
/r/seduction17/06/12 02:01 AM
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I like the approach ideas. Now about that acceleration. . .
/r/seduction16/06/12 09:10 PM
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That's a good idea. I'm really wondering about the girl, how to approach in front of an airport full of bored folk people-watching without making her uncomfortable, and if anybody has any experience finding a private spot in an extremely public place. And basically going for it right then and there.
/r/seduction16/06/12 07:23 PM
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Aw, c'mon. . .there's a key for every lock!
/r/seduction16/06/12 07:11 PM
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You're on the right track, but I think you're ready for the next step, which is to be an interesting thing, rather than just consuming media about them. Go out there and do stuff. Make things. Play an instrument. Travel. Meet people. Most importantly, and I wish I'd bookmarked the OP where I found this (very recently, like in the last month)--tell yourself to pay attention to what's happening so you can tell people about it later on! No kidding. The dumbest shit will entertain people. Like one d…
/r/seduction16/06/12 07:09 PM
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Agreed. Kino is part of a far more primitive reproductive strategy, from way before we had language. It speaks to a much deeper part of the girl's psyche.
/r/seduction16/06/12 07:03 PM
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Noooope. Just look at all the big, dumb, confident jocks out there who get laid. Do you think they're presidents of the Toastmasters Club? Nope. They are physical guys and since it's a physical thing we're trying to do here, we need to get physical too. A girl who feels relaxed because you're relaxed, who feels secure because your body language conveys confidence, and feels turned on because your body is healthy and your movements and touch convey 'sex is going to happen,' is going to sleep with…
/r/seduction11/10/11 03:47 PM
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Looks interesting, but hard to navigate. Upvote for relevance and interesting material.
/r/seduction04/03/11 02:44 PM
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30 ft. rope 1 tarpaulin 1 shovel 1 bag of zip ties 1 bottle chloroform edit: Just kidding. I use ether.
/r/seduction20/02/11 02:02 AM
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also slipping handwritten notes in her bag, coat, lunch, saying things like "I am thinking about you", makes her feel wanted, valued, and surprised when she finds them later on. I can't stress that enough.
/r/seduction14/02/11 04:10 AM
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How many comedians can you think of who have bits based on getting laid too much?
/r/seduction10/01/11 03:49 PM
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I don't know why this got down-voted. It's sound advice--you can even find it in The Tao of Steve: "Be desireless." Often people get into a frame where they don't care so they blow out every set. . .this gets resolved by being desireless, but also remembering to always push for the close. This is the difference between wanting and doing.
/r/seduction10/01/11 03:21 PM
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I think the company of lower value girls is fine, especially if they're obviously fawning over you. However, don't make out with them in front of your target. It makes you look so eager for affection that your value dissipates. In fact, letting your target witness you making out with someone other than her has the distinct possibility of making you look like a loser (as stated) or a player, and if she's not into players. . .well then you just blew it. You may find some girls don't care. The one …
/r/seduction10/01/11 03:16 PM
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It's not about what makes a girl awesome; it's more that first glance, "my god that girl is hot," moment; it's that thing inside that sees a girl and says, "daaayyyyyyyyuuuuuuummmmmm." It's always the party/scene girls that do that to me. A perfect ten girl next door type is going to trigger a lot of that and be better dating material, etc. but the visceral purely sexual response is not going to be as strong for some reason.
/r/seduction19/12/10 02:59 PM
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I wonder if my standards are too high, or a combination that is unrealistic. Is it just my town, or is it the same everywhere? Do you think there's a corollary between status and social drugs like alcohol, pot, and coke?
/r/seduction19/12/10 07:18 AM
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What I want to know is has it been your experience too that the hotter/more socially elite a girl is, the more likely she is to be into substance abuse? If so, why do you think that is? If you're straight edge or sober, where do you find girls that are just as hot and socially elite but share your lifestyle?
/r/seduction19/12/10 07:13 AM
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I wouldn't call again. The key to flakes is you have to be more interesting than their shallow little lives and you have to show them less interest than they show you. Call again only if you want to lower your value.
/r/seduction19/12/10 05:15 AM
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Be a good wing to your friend. Build him up. Make him look like Alpha to her.
/r/seduction19/12/10 12:46 AM
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Okay, so I had a girl flake on me this week. She claims it was work related. Fine. No worries, I distance myself a little bit, don't respond as much, always make sure she is the last one to text. I tell her to get in touch when her schedule loosens up. She finally does, we reschedule. This time I cancel on her. She's like WTF? Later she offers to take me out Friday and pay for dinner. I told her I'd pick her up and when, and we had a good night.
/r/seduction19/12/10 12:42 AM
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Vin DiCarlo's No Flakes.
/r/seduction19/12/10 12:39 AM
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I'm down with any of them, but I secretly want Tofu and Reseddit to keep doing [FR]s more than moderating.
/r/seduction17/12/10 11:33 PM
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I suggest more comfort building during your mid-game and get her to invest more. At the end of the night, freeze-out to destroy LMR. Basically, you knock down Last Minute Resistance (LMR) in the beginning of the night by comfort building; sharing stories; multiple mini-dates; and future projecting, etc. Getting her to invest more means she's working to get into your pants, instead of deciding whether you've earned the right to get into hers. This means you always keep a high value frame, imply o…
/r/seduction17/12/10 04:18 AM
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I suggest a mouse-over for the seddit icon that says: "The first rule of Seddit is read the sidebar."
/r/seduction15/12/10 11:42 PM
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Every situation is different, but I had that happen on Halloween. It was pretty deep into the seduction though, as we were walking to my apartment with the intention of her staying the night. She was on the phone talking to the girl who introduced us and I started to get pretty annoyed. I decided it was unacceptable so I leaned in, gently pushed her phone away with one hand and cupped her ear with the other and said (note this was not a whisper, just a calm speaking voice), "It's time to say goo…
/r/seduction15/12/10 03:27 AM
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1st, Do what you want, man. 2nd, If you really do value this relationship, be prepared to compromise. 3rd, Either way, continue to be very up front with your girlfriend. Think of this as advanced comfort building. Consider easing her into your routine. 4th, I would say no more solo sarging. Stick to groups of friends. Play wing/matchmaker. You'll still get to open and run game, but instead of getting yourself laid, you'll get your buddies laid, thus increasing your social value. Get your girlfri…
/r/seduction15/12/10 03:12 AM
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Just ping her every once in a while to remind her you exist. I did that with my ex after we met, for four months. The timeline was this, I met her while she had a boyfriend, I emailed her a week or two later, she replied that she'd gone out of town for the summer, we emailed each other twice while she was away, she came back, we went out where she informed me she'd dumped her boyfriend at the beginning of summer, we hooked up and were together for a year.
/r/seduction13/12/10 11:49 PM
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Nicknames. You only have to remember a few, i.e. think of all the girls you know who fancy themselves a photographer--they can all answer to "Camera Girl." One of my favorites is "Sunshine." It just makes everybody happy.
/r/seduction13/12/10 07:30 AM
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A hundred years ago? I'm talking about today--with condoms, spermicides, birth control pills, morning after pills, antibiotics, and science. You're irrational.
/r/seduction12/12/10 06:14 AM
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This is a good read and illustrates some good principles such as persistence, aggressiveness, quick thinking under pressure, maintaining a strong frame etc. I would like to see more field reports from you for sure. There is one little thing that concerns me though: one can't trust perceptions through the haze of alcohol, and you go on a good deal about "skillful" human interactions, and yet you present yourself as basically ignoring everything PUA has taught you and just plowed through. Plowing …
/r/seduction11/12/10 05:21 PM
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edit: used guns.
/r/seduction11/12/10 03:35 PM
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Do you think only the beautiful people gets to find a mate? Lol. There's gotta be some reason ugly stayed in the gene pool.
/r/seduction11/12/10 02:29 PM
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;) Experience mostly. I continue to learn though, r/sex is a good place to start for book learning. One of the best things you can do for yourself is get a sexy cougar. They appreciate the attention and will teach you a shit ton. Get yourself a copy of The Joy of Sex, a book on Taoist sexual exercises (similar to but less likely to cause you to go insane than tantra) such as The Multiorgasmic Male by Mantak Chia, and a good book on massage. These will give you plenty to talk about, think about, …
/r/seduction11/12/10 02:26 PM
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Seriously, who wraps up sex and ethics in the same package these days? Get over it you backward Puritans. "Meaning meaning meaning." If you want meaning, get yourself a goal in life like curing cancer, and leave sex out of it. You don't have to love every girl you sleep with. It's possible, and incredibly freeing and rewarding to have recreational sex. See, here's the thing, ethics are an abstract creation by humans. Sex was perfected by worms a billion years ago. It's not special. OP is sufferi…
/r/seduction11/12/10 02:10 PM
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Yup.
/r/seduction11/12/10 01:57 PM
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Awesome, you must meet some fit women.
/r/seduction11/12/10 01:56 PM
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What makes me interesting: I play guitar. I swing dance--East Coast, Charleston, Balboa, and Collegiate Shag. I'm a martial artist, and have taught self defense tactics to the police and tai chi to a group of crotchety old ladies. I'm a writer. I'm big into alternative medicine. I do parkour. I can cook. I know more about sex than a lot of people, and definitely more than most girls. I'm funny. I volunteer. I've traveled all over the SE US and a little bit elsewhere, and have been to some amazin…
/r/seduction11/12/10 01:46 PM
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Waitaminnit. . .ropes and silks are usually lady routines, aren't they?
/r/seduction11/12/10 01:38 PM
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Okay, I'm 32 and date women who are 19-22, and fully intend to continue that until I'm in my eighties. When they ask your age you gotta make 'em guess once or twice. Secondly, when they tell you their age, tease the shit out of them. . ."aww, you're just a baby. . .we could never date, I'd feel like I was robbing the cradle. . .can I get you a glass of milk?" I don't quite subscribe to the "no f close=failure" but I almost always go for the first night lay. It isn't so much a success/failure thi…
/r/seduction11/12/10 01:34 PM
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Giving a girl your phone number almost never works.
/r/seduction11/12/10 01:21 PM
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What is this "call" you speak of?
/r/seduction10/12/10 11:37 PM
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"The last one. You made me hate sex."
/r/seduction09/12/10 11:56 PM
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Ugh.
/r/seduction09/12/10 11:54 PM
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Sure it's a technique. When the chick follows, and then stands in front of you pretending to look for someone, RSD calls it "proximity alert" or something like that. Essentially, she's trying to see if you'll approach her.
/r/seduction09/12/10 11:42 PM
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This is a bit of hocus pocus. You look through her profile for words that elicit strong emotion and especially ones that are repeated. It's a way to connect with her inner self.
/r/seduction09/12/10 11:36 PM
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Video 2 Mehow: Kinos immediately with protective arm around waist. Leads conversation. Assumes romance and future projecting at 0:38. Intimate face to face position immediately. Engages imagination with super power question at 1 min, uses tonality to engage her mind. Obstacle tries to take over convo, he ignores, then engages then DLVs obstacle's attempts to oversell target. Wing does bad job distracting obstacle. Obstacle starts singing Take Me Home Tonight, perhaps to see if they're overeager …
/r/seduction09/12/10 03:04 AM
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Agreed.
/r/seduction09/12/10 02:11 AM
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Okay okay, noobies go here.
/r/seduction09/12/10 02:10 AM
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Your wish is my command
/r/seduction09/12/10 02:09 AM
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She was comfortable enough to be alone with you in your place, but not attracted enough to go beyond a perfunctory test kiss, i.e. friendzone. There are two other, less likely options, in my opinion, one is that she could have been testing you and the other is that she was experiencing buyer's remorse, i.e. perhaps she's a prude. To answer your original question, no you did not make a mistake by going for the kiss. That for sure was definitely a good move. I just can't account for your timing.
/r/seduction09/12/10 02:01 AM
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Sounds like your level of attraction was way too low, comfort too high.
/r/seduction09/12/10 01:40 AM
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Pecks? Like on the cheek? Even a peck on the lips is. . . too tentative. I think she wants you to be more assertive.
/r/seduction09/12/10 01:12 AM
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Upvotes for the whole conversation.
/r/seduction08/12/10 11:38 PM
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God, I love you LesbianPUA. Edit: When are we going to see some field reports?
/r/seduction08/12/10 11:35 PM
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I do alright with OkC. I answer no quizzes. Nothing. A 0% match doesn't give them some trivial reason to dismiss you. Pics are optimized according to OkC's research (the best ones I have atm, need better ones though.) I search to see who's online, send a quick message with "power words" from their profile in the subject, a short, friendly message that implies a little familiarity, a tease about something in their profile, and a question to lead to discussion. If we've exchanged at least two mess…
/r/seduction08/12/10 11:33 PM
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I can't watch Mehow he sounds like Squidward.
/r/seduction08/12/10 12:53 PM
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That's a weak frame. Don't be "the other guy." The other guy is "the other guy." Be the most amazing guy that she met while in a relationship with some schlub that wasn't doing it for her. As far as getting your feelings hurt, having a feeling that sits inside of you, and putting pressure on her to be with someone who treats her right, that's all a very low value frame. She doesn't want a white knight. She wants a guy who is fun and exciting to be around, so much so that she forgets herself arou…
/r/seduction08/12/10 01:59 AM
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There's this thing called "monkey-grabbing" that high value insecure girls do. They feel like they have to be in a relationship, so they won't leave one until they're sure about the next. It's like a monkey swinging from one branch to another: it doesn't just let go, it makes sure it's got a firm grip on the next branch before it releases the present one. Be the next branch. Be confident, rebuild attraction and kino, and go in for the kiss next time. If you're relaxed and confident about it, it …
/r/seduction07/12/10 12:51 PM
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Unwatchable. This guy has a much less annoying personality.
/r/seduction07/12/10 12:39 PM
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Pickup is the practice of engaging a woman and soliciting a response with the goal of furthering the interaction into an immediate or future date including seduction of that woman. Seduction is the practice of engaging a woman's mind and emotions in order to create desired responses such as and especially affection and lust, leading up to a sexual encounter or relationship. The creation of the Seduction community has lead to a subgenre of pickup studies that is heavily focused on self-improvemen…
/r/seduction07/12/10 04:07 AM
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You are.
/r/seduction07/12/10 03:33 AM
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Shit like this, man. . .shit like this. . .
/r/seduction06/12/10 08:43 AM
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Sounds tough. You're in a hard spot, man. If I were in your spot I would do this: Use OkC to make friends and activity partners and that's it. Right now you need someone to hang out with to expand your social circles. Like throwraptor said, TD's Blueprint Decoded for internal game is a big time help, and if you mix in Ross Jeffries' Nail Your Inner Game you'll conquer your anxiety fast. Build your confidence based on small successes. You're going for the gold in ski jumping but you haven't even …
/r/seduction05/12/10 10:58 PM
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Amen.
/r/seduction05/12/10 10:48 PM
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Have a talk with your wing. If it continues find a new one.
/r/seduction05/12/10 10:45 PM
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I've been thinking about this for a while. I've come up with hypotheticals based on things I've actually seen or heard about happening. They haven't happened to me yet, but I'm a small guy and I want to be ready. You're a smaller guy like Style,a huge AMOG picks you up, treats you like a child. This is unacceptable, how do you put him in his place (this actually happened to Tyler Durden before he was awesome [I guess if you're awesome it doesn't happen anymore])? You've opened a set but haven't …
/r/seduction05/12/10 10:43 PM
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You spent 5-10 minutes arm to arm with a girl? I guarantee that was 5-10 minutes of agony for her. Know why? Because those 5-10 minutes were filled with her anticipating more touch from you and not getting it. I've been in your shoes, man. I was the ultimate placator. I tried to please everybody and make sure nobody "got the wrong idea" or thought I was "too forward." Now I know two things you need to know: First, every move or word a girl makes in the presence of others is highly calculated. If…
/r/seduction05/12/10 09:44 AM
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Thanks man. I'm glad to see you're out again and writing awesome field reports.
/r/seduction05/12/10 08:17 AM
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No prob, and I hate to say it, but one day you will have to choose between your girl and your buddies. Every guy has to go through it, usually more than once in life. Best to get some practice assessing it now so you've got a better feel for it when your emotions get stormy when it really happens.
/r/seduction05/12/10 06:24 AM
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OP, this part isn't directed at you: SWEET JUMPIN' JEHOSEPHAT!!! HAVEN'T YOU NINNIES HEARD OF IOIS??? THE BOY NEEDS TO LOOK AND SEE IF SHE'S GIVING INDICATORS OF SEXUAL INTEREST!!! KEEEEEEERRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSST! THIS IS A SEDUCTION BOARD NOT A PUSSY TALK TO HER LIKE AN AFC CHOAD BOARD!!! LEARN THE MATERIAL!!!! NOT ONE OF YOU MENTIONED IOIS!!!!!!!!!! HOW ELSE IS HE GONNA KNOW IF SHE LIKES HIM? SHE'S NOT GONNA TELL HIM. AND IF HE BRINGS IT UP IN DISCUSSION IT'S JUST GONNA BLOW ANY MYS…
/r/seduction05/12/10 06:03 AM
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Well nobody ever rode a bicycle successfully the first time they tried it either. Keep it up.
/r/seduction05/12/10 05:43 AM
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Instead of looking at this from a "relationship is a compromise frame", let's try looking at this from a "caring alpha frame". You're best and most attractive state is one that is having fun, and ensuring that everyone else is having fun too, right? Basically, you're Alpha wolf and you gotta make sure everyone in your pack is happy and healthy so they are better able to make sure that you're happy and healthy and less likely to gut you and take your position when you're down, right? Okay, now as…
/r/seduction05/12/10 05:41 AM
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Man, I just don't have time to write a FR for every interaction that I have, so I just write them up for my best successes and my biggest failu--okay I just write them up when I have a pretty good success. Sometimes when I think I had a particularly educational night I will then too. Secondly, I've been having a shit time since the end of Sept. I got burned hard by oneitis, caught the never-ending bronchitis, had a death in the family, broke my computer twice, food poisoning twice, kindey stones…
/r/seduction05/12/10 05:20 AM
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Try this. The best dancers move their upper body so it's not just vertical all the time (didn't you post that?); mix things up--contrasts are the key to being enjoyable to watch; and learned movements will be a little on the large side, refine them and make them smaller and smaller until they look controlled and are appropriate for a crowded dance floor. I like Chi's videos, they're small enough bites to digest easily, and they are well explained and reasoned.
/r/seduction05/12/10 04:49 AM
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:) Haven't seen you around for a while.
/r/seduction05/12/10 04:16 AM
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As long as you kept your cool it's all good. His freakout is pretty low value. Sleep well knowing his penance for blowing your set is that he's still a virgin.
/r/seduction04/12/10 03:26 PM
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I recently lost all the good shit on my hard drive, and I was never into Gunwitch so I haven't replaced my copy of his stuff yet. I do, however, suggest these sites for good stuff.
/r/seduction04/12/10 12:29 PM
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Him: "I have an epic story to tell you, but my friends are distracting me!" You: "He just wants to tell you whatever epic story is about, or if you don't know then pick something positive he's done" (Takes the wind out of his sail; directs attention to him for which he'll be grateful, but at your discretion; leaves him without a reason to get you kicked out). Girls: "Ooooh other guy tell us about epic thing you did." At this point he should either tell them the story or try one more time to get …
/r/seduction04/12/10 12:18 PM
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I just watched that a couple months ago. Completely ridiculous to believe that nobody noticed it was him. I mean, a 7ft tall Amish scarecrow? I think he would've attracted attention.
/r/seduction04/12/10 11:51 AM
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What the hell are you talking about? Whatever. The advice is the same as any club situation where you feel awkward. Build your inner game, keep going there until you enjoy it. Edit: Okay, Pro=for EtOH=ethanol. They're drunk, you're high. Wanker.
/r/seduction04/12/10 11:28 AM
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Nah, he's just stopped giving away his material. There's a link to his stuff on the first page you linked, you just have to pay for it now.
/r/seduction04/12/10 11:25 AM
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Read the next sentence.
/r/seduction04/12/10 02:44 AM
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Be less boring by leaving out-- Be more interesting by being more interesting. Everybody NEEDS engineers, but why would anyone want to talk to one at a party? What is fascinating about what you do? Is there anything you do that is exciting? Dangerous? Mysterious? Sexy? Fun? Do you travel? Have you ever rescued somebody/thing? What kind of food are you really good at cooking? There's all kinds of shit we don't think about that is interesting. Do you show value by doing the above but also by being…
/r/seduction04/12/10 02:25 AM
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Fix it or feature it. You can have a lot of fun with getting women to guess your age, and in 10 years it'll be an advantage.
/r/seduction04/12/10 01:52 AM
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Hey man, go out and meet more people. It sounds like you have little to no problem meeting women. Just have fun. Option 1 is legal (for you, not me) in KY and I don't know about IN's laws. Fuck her in Louisville, right? Just kidding, if you're both from IN and her parents don't like you there could be "transporting a minor across state lines" issues which are tantamount to kidnapping charges. But like I said, I don't know IN's laws about legal age. Also you'll look like that loser college guy th…
/r/seduction04/12/10 01:50 AM
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Good plan. Don't beat yourself up too much. How can you be good at something if you don't have much experience at it, right? Do not do any favors ever. Watch out for that one, try to stick to the 2/3 rule. Do 2 things for every 3 that she does for you; it keeps you from looking too beta or too assholish. Having girls who are friends is freaking invaluable. I don't care what anyone says, it's social proof when you go out, you get to meet her friends, you have someone whose brain you can pick abou…
/r/seduction03/12/10 12:23 PM
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Pulp-free? Fuck that. High five.
/r/seduction03/12/10 12:13 PM
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It's your life, your morals. I have no problem doin' the physical thing with a girl in a relationship, because that's between her and me. I won't drive an emotional wedge though, because that's between all three of us. Especially if they've got something that's really solid in other ways, and I don't really want that kind of thing with her. Now, if ever I think I have found THE ONE, then all bets are off because all's fair. But I've not yet found one worth "ruining" another guy's life for.
/r/seduction03/12/10 04:01 AM
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We write field reports to share knowledge, not boners. I guess that wasn't confidence boosting at all. Trust us, stick to the material for a few months, at least, go out often and do yo' thang, and you'll have more heartache and unparalleled ecstasy than most people get in a decade.
/r/seduction03/12/10 03:51 AM
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I chuckled out loud.
/r/seduction02/12/10 02:42 AM
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I would hope that she would tell me just because that doesn't matter. . . Well, it matters to her, and she really doesn't need to tell anyone about it if she doesn't want to, ya know? It's her business not yours. If she chooses not to come out to you, leave it alone. Think about it this way, if you were homosexual and came from Florida, a southern state replete with backwoods rednecks and anti-gay Republicans in major office, would you be quick to come out to every guy you talk to? All you can d…
/r/seduction01/12/10 01:48 PM
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Move. Edit: the only pickup you can do out there is Ol' Bessie, and you can't AMOG a bull.
/r/seduction01/12/10 01:30 PM
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Go for a walk. Walk close to her, let your hands touch. If it feels like she won't pull away, hold her hand. It won't convince her you're hetero, but it's a good start to kino. Read Vin Dicarlo's kino escalation ladder. It's spot on. It's fairly readily available out there, just google it.
/r/seduction01/12/10 01:28 PM
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Well, stop being AFC now. Being Alpha isn't something you turn on and off with regards to your relationship status, it's something you have to cultivate ALL THE TIME! The mindset you need is not "Avoid being AFC," but "I am Alpha." Second, you have serious "oneitis." Get out there and meet other women. You live on campus? This should be easy as pie.
/r/seduction01/12/10 01:25 PM
1

Usually, I just ignore it. If she really isn't going to bite, then I say something like, "When you're ready for a deep connection with someone amazing, get in touch," and leave it at that. I didn't think it'd work until I'd tried it a couple times. Now I get call-backs fairly regularly.
/r/seduction01/12/10 01:07 PM
2

Make having a good time your priority, not sex.
/r/seduction01/12/10 12:51 AM
1

Make having a good time your priority, not sex.
/r/seduction01/12/10 12:50 AM
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Martial arts classes. Preferably one that's bare knuckle. Get punched in the face for a couple years. When you're out on the street, most of those bros won't be able to hit you as hard as you've been hit accidentally. What those guys below say about baby-steps and talking to girls. You see, you and the girl, you're both just bones and ligaments holding up muscles and organs covered in skin. That's it. Matter floating through space, so it doesn't matter if you're in the grocery store or a club, i…
/r/seduction29/11/10 05:40 PM
1

Uh no. Not give and take so much as do it, see if she pulls away (turning away is a "maybe, let's see what you got" kinda deal; pulling away is a definite no and should be respected (it's okay to start over a few rungs lower and try again, but if she pulls away from that too, take a break.)). If she doesn't pull away, advance. Make her want more by dropping down a rung or two just as she's starting to enjoy it.
/r/seduction29/11/10 08:36 AM
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"Hey girl, yeah what you heard about me is correct. . .it would be way to complicated for this, you and me, to work. . ." That disqualifies you so you are not a sexual threat. Now, you feel that part of you that wants to get with her? Make that part of you feel instead that you want to really find out who she is and make sure that everyone involved is happy and healthy. You do that just by imagining what that feels like, then holding that feeling there. It'll free up a lot of room in the brain t…
/r/seduction29/11/10 04:33 AM
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Yeah, going out and doing it is the best way to learn, but you'll find that you end up with something that works, that you do every time. All the stuff to memorize is so you don't have to take ten years doing it like Mystery did.
/r/seduction28/11/10 06:37 PM
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Yuck, but I think it might actually work. I'd watch out and not get too carried away with the gynophobia. This reminds me of a Buddhist exercise I once read about where you imagine everybody you meet as just flesh, bones, blood vessels, blood, organs, and tissue. It really takes the woomph out of meeting somebody, whether they're sexy or important.
/r/seduction28/11/10 05:32 PM
1

Do takeaway when the interaction is still golden so you leave her wanting more, socialize with other sets, be seen having and being the source of fun and good feelings, go back and isolate her from her set for make out while still there, etc. You gotta balance too much and not enough attention, too much and not enough heat. Leave her wanting more, but not so horny that it significantly outweighs her comfort, or her ASD will kick in and she'll flake on you.
/r/seduction28/11/10 05:28 PM
3

That's the spirit!
/r/seduction28/11/10 05:22 PM
1

Haha! Comments like this are funny. It's not like there's an entire subculture of men who have been hammering out successful, repeatable ways to pick up women since the late '80s. That would be waaaayyyy too far out there! Geez. Even though there are literally millions of men who get on hundreds of online forums to talk about the successful, repeatable techniques they learned and used, this shit ain't even worth trying, much less practicing until you get it right. . . (rolls eyes). Way to stay u…
/r/seduction28/11/10 05:21 PM
1

No but there's a lot of Leis.
/r/seduction27/11/10 04:45 PM
2

TEACHING yoga on the other hand will get you laid like carpet in Hawaii.
/r/seduction26/11/10 06:55 AM
4

You're a pretty cool guy. Don't forget it. Be confident because of that fact. You know she's interested. Allow that knowledge to boost your confidence EVEN MORE! When in movies and a girl jumps, put your arm around her. She'll feel much more secure, and by golly, you'll feel more likely to kiss her. Kiss her in the movie theater. Or in the car. Or on her doorstep, but goddammit! kiss her. Make it easier by giving her a peck on the cheek right at the beginning before you have a chance to talk you…
/r/seduction26/11/10 06:48 AM
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It's a bit heavy on the sales, but this is the best five bucks I ever spent
/r/seduction26/11/10 06:26 AM
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Since I watched Gambler's Stealth Seduction, it's been a tie between forcing IOIs and kino escalation for me.
/r/seduction26/11/10 02:29 AM
1

Man, I hear ya. Remember back when the mods weren't mods and posted stuff? Advice was helpful and based on PUA and not "shit that's off the top of me head. . ." Man, those were the good ole days.
/r/seduction26/11/10 02:28 AM
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When has flirtation ever been about maturity? You gotta be playful man, challenging, and sly like a dog.
/r/seduction23/11/10 03:40 AM
2

Well, if you look like a male model, sure you can do it. If not, tough, you're better doing it A WAY THAT IS PROVEN TO WORK.
/r/seduction22/11/10 07:18 PM
8

I very rarely drink. Like twice a year, and not much at all. My preference is pineapple juice or cranberry juice. Sometimes I order sprite with pineapple juice and cherry juice, with a twist of lime. I stand there with my girly pink drink and lord the place. Also: Be okay with who you are, which is someone who is working hard in school and as a result, doesn't drink. Congruency is key, and confidence and competence are attractive.
/r/seduction21/11/10 03:48 PM
3

Your roommate has a girlfriend. His girlfriend does not. Listen to his advice, not hers. You've got a lot to work on, but it can be done. I'm pretty happy with my dating life and I was in your shoes about 2 and a half years ago. The thing is, I'm not really that different now, on the outside, but I am on the inside, and that's mainly where it counts. You are going to go through some changes that may alienate some of your friends for a while, but you will win them back in the long run if you choo…
/r/seduction21/11/10 03:45 PM
1

A few years ago before I really had any experience, I met this really cute black chick (I'm white) on OkC and we went for a coffee date. It was miserable. We didn't really connect, I felt like she was trying to sell me on how honest and dependable she was, which just made me feel the opposite about her. And the weird thing was, the entire 2 hours I was sitting there trying to think of a graceful way to bail, she talked with her hand about two inches in front of her face. It was the strangest beh…
/r/seduction21/11/10 03:33 PM
1

I have no real knowledge base so this is kinda tongue in cheek advise. You're welcome to disagree but you've already admitted you don't know what you're talking about. The girls in dance class are not there to be picked up. In PUA we generally take the attitude that we can't trust women to tell us what they want unless they have a Cosmo magazine right in front of them, and then it's what they're told they want and not what they really truly deeply desire. I have noticed however, that we can trus…
/r/seduction21/11/10 03:23 PM
1

Oh really? When was the last time you ever found what you were looking for with it?
/r/seduction20/11/10 06:23 PM
1

What hieusays. I liked it.
/r/seduction20/11/10 05:20 PM
1

Maybe you should start listening to them. Things besides confidence that will help are swagger, competence, playfulness, humor, intelligence, social intelligence, comfort, good looks and wealth.
/r/seduction20/11/10 05:14 PM
1

Be dismissive and make her think about something else. She wants to know you are interested in her as a person, not as a piece of meat. If you play a crude game get her thinking about your sexy bits without bragging: say, "Whatever. My balls are uneven. Let's go get a drink." You can use any other body part to make it less crude.
/r/seduction20/11/10 05:11 PM
1

I destroyed the best relationship of my life because I didn't come clean about staying in the game. Either you stay in and tell her and if you're smooth, you include her-- not because you WILL get caught but because you are stand up and honest about who you are. . .or you don't get in a LTR with her. The thing is, she's got just as much anxiety as you do about life and romance. There's a 50/50 shot that she'll keep dating you regardless. If she says no, decide which is more important to you and …
/r/seduction20/11/10 04:54 PM
1

Ach, the advice below seems written by a bunch of noobs who're still in the "fascinated with being Alpha/dominant/bad guy" phase of pickup. If this girl has any self-esteem at all, she's wondering why you indicated to her friend that you like her instead of being confident enough to pick her up. I would be honest with her and say "Hey, I think you know I like you, and that your friend told you because I made it obvious to her. I should have been more obvious about it with you instead." And walk …
/r/seduction20/11/10 04:42 PM
1

There is something to the LTR, it'll be really good sex and you'll get a lot better at it. I dunno, I think if I were in your shoes I'd stay out of it until I found an absolutely incredible girl and in the meantime, I'd find Vin DiCarlo's Two Girls Teach Sex. You'll get a lot better. The main thing about making it enjoyable is finding someone who turns you on, not just someone who's willing to fuck.
/r/seduction20/11/10 04:35 PM
1

Aww you've gone and spoiled it.
/r/seduction20/11/10 04:29 PM
1

Social dance is sooooooo awesome. Don't go there to pick up women! It's might happen, but don't spoil your home base, your learning environment, your glorious social proof. Take women you want to bed out to dance. The social proof you already have going for you by not being the creepy guy who hits on everyone will wow her, possibly make her jealous and therefore competitive for your attention. Dance, don't talk. Don't look at your dance partner you want to be aloof, and you want to look where th…
/r/seduction20/11/10 04:28 PM
1

The most powerful thing you can do is laugh at the preposterous idea of you not "deserving" something because you're king of the fucking world and you deserve the very best of whatever you want, and walk away.
/r/seduction20/11/10 04:21 PM
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Nah bro. Learn from them, and do it back. It'll drive them insane and make you seem all--well, I probably shouldn't tell you. You know what it's like when you're on a roller coaster and you get to the top and you have that moment of anticipation before the drop? Well the thing people love about roller coaster is that anticipation. It's the most intense part of the whole experience.
/r/seduction20/11/10 04:17 PM
1

Not in my town. There's lots of gamer girls and knitter guys. It's just that they both happen to be minority populations who enjoy solitary activities. You gotta line up at EB on release dates to meet the gamer girls, and be prepared to infiltrate the group of orbiters they bring with them.
/r/seduction20/11/10 04:14 PM
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There is so much wrong with what you just said. * Read Magic Bullets to understand that DHV spikes don't mean bragging. Overcompartmentalization of concepts is going to hold you back. You gotta flow with this stuff, and the ideas, concepts, and techniques of PUA are a lot more fluid than you think. Even though there is a lot of social programming out there, people are organic, not robots. Sexual prizing is not a separate technique, it's a frame of mind. You should definitely be confident and fun…
/r/seduction20/11/10 04:08 PM
1

How come you're sitting so far away from me? Grab the top of her jeans and pull her close.
/r/seduction20/11/10 03:54 PM
1

I think it's Tyler Durden who calls this "monkey-grabbing." Hot girls are never, ever ever ever without a boyfriend. They will start dating a new guy while still dating the old guy. It's like a monkey swinging through the trees; it won't let go of an old branch until it firmly has a grip on the new branch and is sure it will hold it's weight. This is why god invented jealousy, so sometimes old branches can club the brains out of the new branch when it tries to take old branch's monkey. Usually t…
/r/seduction20/11/10 03:52 PM
1

Is she worth bringing around, i.e. will she actually add to the experience, or are you just fucking her?
/r/seduction20/11/10 03:19 PM
1

That's funny.
/r/seduction20/11/10 03:13 PM
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I don't think it's a shit test as much as it is an excuse not to give you her number. You didn't build enough comfort.
/r/seduction20/11/10 03:12 PM
1

Confidence and humor are good, but there are plenty of confident, funny guys who don't get laid. If you add the element of "sexual prizing" i.e. reframe the conversation so that you're the one who's sex is valuable, you'll be a lot more effective.
/r/seduction20/11/10 03:07 PM
2

"Why don't you buy us drinks?" "Well, if you want me for yourself, you're gonna have to buy 'em for me :) "
/r/seduction20/11/10 03:05 PM
2

There is no set pattern to social interaction, so trying to identify one is impossible. As long as you make sure you only select your arbitrary actions from a set of reactions including "Act sympathetic and offer to help" and not the set of reactions including "Pick nose and talk about Pokemon." The above statements are contradictory. This weakness in the commentor's argument is further exemplified in that second quote: "As long as you make sure you only select your arbitrary actions" contradict…
/r/seduction20/11/10 03:00 PM
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It's all good, man. You've got this. The hard part is over.
/r/seduction20/11/10 03:42 AM
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Douchebags are infantile. Don't be one. Look at Juggler. The guy is nice, teaches and practices "nice alpha," and dresses like a normal guy. David DeAngelo has a strong personality, and is maybe kind of a dick in that realist-pulls-no-punches-you-need-to-grow-up kind of way at times, but not particularly douchey. He's what you'd call a man's man. I don't recommend being a douche. Instead, use the tactics, tell good stories, and be attractive while living an interesting life.
/r/seduction20/11/10 12:03 AM
1

Best advice in this thread.
/r/seduction19/11/10 05:46 AM
1

Seconded.
/r/seduction19/11/10 05:45 AM
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Nah. Not always. I've dated a couple girls I've crushed on, and it was great. That said, usually crush=fail. So basically, like everything else in life, there is no such thing as 100%. I dunno if I said that to give you hope or to enjoy watching you squirm. . .
/r/seduction17/11/10 11:25 PM
0

Girls like French. Ask her in French: "Ecoutez-moi, je voudrais chercher la tresor a votre trou. Est la castor velu ou chauvre? Alors, je commences les exercices du langue apres j'ai vous frappe avec la poisson."
/r/seduction17/11/10 01:16 AM
1

Huh. I'd do 'em all if we're just talking looks. Well, Megan would have to wear socks over her hands.
/r/seduction03/11/10 09:33 PM
1

Regarding dumb girls: often it's a shit test or a self-belief that's often mistaken for an attractive trait. Now, whether or not she's boring after you get past the dumb act is another story. Back when I was an AFC with no concept of PUA I was in a 5 year LTR with a girl whom I thought was naive, and sometimes, dumb. When we broke up it all came out and I saw a side of her I'd never seen before. She is a very smart woman. Her father had taught her to be dumb to attract men. I already had a low o…
/r/seduction03/11/10 09:31 PM
1

Game in a nutshell.
/r/seduction03/11/10 09:22 PM
1

It's only creepy if you feel awkward or make her feel awkward. The best thing to do is make her comfortable, then make her laugh. edit: make her comfortable
/r/seduction03/11/10 08:12 PM
1

Of course.
/r/seduction03/11/10 07:51 PM
3

I used to work with a guy named Marion. He was an ex cop and had been in the Korean War. Once while copping around doing coppy things, he pulled somebody over. As he was standing at their window, another car HIT HIM! HE GOT RIGHT THE FUCK UP AND ARRESTED THE DRIVER OF THE SECOND CAR, THEN FINISHED GIVING THE FIRST DRIVER A TICKET. He died a few years ago. I still haven't met anyone as tough or as mean as he was.
/r/seduction03/11/10 12:21 PM
0

Well said.
/r/seduction02/11/10 10:42 PM
3

Threesome.
/r/seduction02/11/10 10:33 PM
1

Yup.
/r/seduction02/11/10 01:43 AM
1

Uh, focus on improving your game by practicing on locals. I know she's awesome, but seriously, how do you expect to keep her interested if you're not present? Doing this will make you more sure of what to do when the time is finally right (if ever) and you two can actually make a go. Long distance is not hopeless, but it's hella difficult.
/r/seduction02/11/10 01:40 AM
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And a LOT easier too.
/r/seduction02/11/10 01:37 AM
1

Give her a look like you think it's cute when she's cheeky, then with a coy smile, gently lift her chin so you can kiss her proper. The thing is, don't be affected by her shit test.
/r/seduction02/11/10 01:32 AM
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I know, right? She was drinking lots of water to keep from getting hungover. Like a full 12oz glass for every time she went. I thought it was funny because the bathroom door was off, which puts the toilet in immediate view of the couch, so we were just right there together and it was totally comfortable and not weird at all.
/r/seduction01/11/10 09:39 PM
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Also, FYI, we met at 1 AM and were in bed before 5 AM. Less than 4 hours. It's kind of a wake up call to what's possible. Now, some guys out there claim to be able to do that in 10 minutes. I'd be surprised, but that doesn't stop me from moving in that direction. Everything else PUA that I've tried and practiced has proven to have merit to one degree or another, so one day I expect I'll be posting [FRs] on how to bag a 10 in 10. I've got more learnin' to do first.
/r/seduction01/11/10 09:23 PM
1

Thanks. All learned. What I've realized though, is that we all do these things naturally when we "accidently" get laid. It's just that by learning to do it consciously we eliminate the bad habits and the bad frames of mind and we accentuate the good things we do. Regarding my line, I don't want everyone using it, or it'll get tired. When I think of something new that I can use instead, I may consider letting you guys in on it :)
/r/seduction01/11/10 09:16 PM
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Man, that's a fear-based attitude. I've noticed in some of your comments that you have a sort of pessimistic outlook. Have you considered looking at the positive in things. I mean really? Every time you find yourself thinking something negative, force yourself to pick out five positive things. It takes five positive things to overcome one negative. I don't know why, but it works. I used to be the darkest, most unhelpfully critical SOB out there. Now I'm a breath of sunshine and a ray of fresh ai…
/r/seduction01/11/10 08:20 PM
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Yes to both. Some alpha types do a running commentary of negative talking points. This does two things--it makes him seem like an expert and therefore competent (an attractive trait) and it gives contrast to the things that he praises so they stand out more, thus making his praise worth more such that people will strive for his approval. If your friend is naturally that way, it is sub/unconscious and should therefore be looked at objectively. In other words, observe it, learn from it, don't take…
/r/seduction01/11/10 08:15 PM
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Whoa. Whoa. Whoawhoawhoa. You went clubbing with your mom? Congrats on understanding the fundamental difference in frame that will get you out there and having fun. It is such an important step. 5 isn't HB. You won't get numbers by just dancing without conversation, because after all, what is a phone for but talking? You can get kisses and makeouts and even get laid without talking by just dancing and kino and being direct.
/r/seduction01/11/10 08:00 PM
3

. . .as eggs.
/r/seduction01/11/10 07:51 PM
0

. . .as eggs.
/r/seduction01/11/10 07:50 PM
2

Don't pay a hooker. Especially if there's any chance you'll develop a lazy and expensive habit. Other than that, what tejmin has to say is quality.
/r/seduction01/11/10 07:44 PM
0

I LOLd for minutes at that part. We gotta make this a t-shirt.
/r/seduction01/11/10 07:41 PM
2

Listen to all the comments about just getting out there and enjoying yourself and not being creepy staring from the sidelines guy. What to actually do while you're out there dancing and having fun is either: playfully hip check or booty bump the girl (if you do this while looking over your shoulder at her with a sly grin the response is universally positive) or dance behind her with your back to her, bump into her, and if she doesn't move away she's okay with you, then dance to her side (still f…
/r/seduction01/11/10 07:35 PM
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Dude, we have no idea which one that is. Watch your antecedents when you write, your post is confuuuuuuuzzzziiiiiinnnnng. Also, writing that shit to the one who is not your target is very weak. You need to have the balls to say it in person, with your voice, not your sms.
/r/seduction01/11/10 07:24 PM
5

Again: Girl: "Do you want to fool around?" In what alternate universe does "yes" mean "no"?
/r/seduction01/11/10 07:20 PM
2

Girl: "Do you want to fool around?" In what alternate universe does "yes" mean "no"?
/r/seduction01/11/10 07:19 PM
2

No such thing.
/r/seduction01/11/10 07:17 PM
6

Part 2. So we went to drop her off at her place and she said her folks were away. I brought up the idea of getting my tent and camping in her living room (it was cold out, and I thought it'd be great to cuddle with both of them) but GG wussed out saying her parents would be back early in the a.m. Whatever. So HB7 and I left her there and drove toward our part of town. I told her I would get the tent anyway and we could convince GG to do it (actually this was just an excuse to pass her place and …
/r/seduction01/11/10 07:13 PM
5

Just do it.
/r/seduction01/11/10 04:04 AM
2

Your butt, right?
/r/seduction25/10/10 12:11 AM
2

Be hot. Be confident. Be friendly and charming. Be just enough approachable. Think about the way conversations work, and like chess, always be a few moves ahead. Break the conversation while in an upswing, i.e. when you're all "wow, I don't want this conversation to ever end!" that is exactly when you should do it, because she's feeling the same and when you leave the convo you'll leave her wanting more. You cannot be pursued if there's no room to pursue, so you stop that convo and go say hi to …
/r/seduction21/10/10 09:17 PM
2

A playful, mysterious half smile, like I know something she doesn't, works wonders for me. I save the big smile for just after I've established eye contact, and it's a slow smile.
/r/seduction21/10/10 09:00 PM
5

Man, the canned stuff IS for those guys who really are that much in trouble. It's just something for noobs to use until they understand how to have a conversation. Believe it or not, some people don't. Edit: This is good though, having lists of memorized routines, i.e. "canned" material, especially stories that really happened to you, is very very handy.
/r/seduction21/10/10 08:48 PM
1

Ok, but you see the importance of objectifying yourself and getting your ego out of the way, right? :D
/r/seduction21/10/10 08:32 PM
5

http://www.youtube.com/user/ClubDanceLessons
/r/seduction21/10/10 03:36 AM
1

But, my issue, is that I'm a chick too. . . Like, you're a guy and a chick at the same time? There's gotta be a way you can make money offa that!
/r/seduction21/10/10 03:33 AM
1

Ha! No, but that one was funny, good job :)
/r/seduction20/10/10 09:08 PM
2

Somewhere I saw a video of RSD's Tim talking about club game and showing how to enter a circle of people dancing to engage the target in the middle. If anybody knows where it's at or has a copy, I'd be much obliged.
/r/seduction20/10/10 08:02 PM
1

No, no, it's okay, you don't have to be shy. No one's judging you. I'm pretty awesome, so it's understandable. Seddit can help you bag more dudes if that's what you want.
/r/seduction20/10/10 07:56 PM
1

Slow, confident speech and movement. Express interest early. Touch. Keep it playful.
/r/seduction20/10/10 07:36 PM
6

Do you know how to get into that frame? If so, forget about this time. We all have our off days. Next time, just jump right in with your usual frame--sometimes, not often, but sometimes a better second impression can amend the first. Just do it, don't think about it. Get your head straight.
/r/seduction20/10/10 07:34 PM
1

Oh wait, I get it, this is you treating me like shit so I'll sleep with you. Sorry, nostradamuz, I'm not gay. You must be blushing right now, though.
/r/seduction20/10/10 07:30 PM
2

Assuming you're not trolling us, why on earth are you not using your advantages to get women?
/r/seduction20/10/10 07:10 PM
1

You don't think pleasing to the eye and sexually arousing are two different (albeit related) qualities? Also gorgeous and smart is a very. . . Ahaha I see what you did there.
/r/seduction20/10/10 07:06 PM
2

I've dated plenty of girls taller than me. It ain't no thing if you don't let it be. PUA mantra= If you're confident in you, she's confident in you.
/r/seduction20/10/10 12:31 AM
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Man, I'm 32, and I love seeing all these guys on here right about my age. I date 19 to 40+. I'd do 18 if they were in college. MrRisky's right. Further, I'd like to say that being self-aggrandizing because you don't use PUA is actually committing the disgusting sin of ignorant deceitfulness. Guys who "aren't" pickup artists do shit all the time that is highly manipulative to get girls to date them or fuck them or whatever. Sometimes it's intentional, but most guys who have "white knight syndrome…
/r/seduction20/10/10 12:23 AM
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Man, I'm 32, and I love seeing all these guys on here right about my age. I date 19 to 40+. I'd do 18 if they were in college. MrRisky's right. Further, I'd like to say that being self-aggrandizing because you don't use PUA is actually committing the disgusting sin of ignorant deceitfulness. Guys who "aren't" pickup artists do shit all the time that is highly manipulative to get girls to date them or fuck them or whatever. Sometimes it's intentional, but most guys who have "white knight syndrome…
/r/seduction20/10/10 12:23 AM
5

PUA overload. We all do it. It's like we see ourselves as "Pick Up Guy," and the combination of being so confident that we can achieve something that we don't need to prove it plus the pressure of the self-expectation to be "on" 100% all the time is overwhelming. They squeeze together and don't give us room to just be ourselves and have a normal conversation as an actual human being with an actual human being. Try reframing things a bit. Your conversation isn't some big pickup routine; it's just…
/r/seduction20/10/10 12:08 AM
2

It works on very beautiful girls--with very low self esteem. Gorgeous, hot, smart, and well-adjusted women aren't going to date jerks just because they never have. That is a fallacy. They love themselves too much. You're seriously underestimating how smart/happy girls can be.
/r/seduction19/10/10 11:48 PM
4

I don't think he is. It's a common practice, "jerk tactics." Playing very high value, very hard to get. The thing is, it works--on really needy girls. Doing that means you invest very little, and she invests a lot. It's totally awesome for the guy because he gets what he wants with very little effort, but obviously the relationship is not as dynamic, interesting, or nuanced as relationships have the potential to be. Further, really awesome girls, like the mythical "really sexy, funny, caring and…
/r/seduction19/10/10 05:54 AM
1

Noted and upvoted.
/r/seduction18/10/10 10:03 PM
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Best [FR] and followup in comments I've seen. Good job, man.
/r/seduction18/10/10 06:29 PM
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Dude, kick her to the curb. She "already has someone she wants to date" ???? WTF? He's not even her boyfriend. She won't even kiss you because she wants to date someone else that she isn't even dating yet? OH WAIT she realized that you're interested (read: willing to buy her shit and pay attention to her without her "having" to put out) SO SHE'S NOT SURE ANYMORE. Well fuck that shit. She is just using you. If not for free meals and movies and gifts then at least for your time and attention. Get …
/r/seduction18/10/10 02:00 PM
2

One day. . .one day.
/r/seduction18/10/10 01:47 PM
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If you have had your fair share of partners for your age, you probably don't have Asperger's. You're probably just a man, and probably just a little unpracticed at social skills. Check out David DeAngelo's stuff on body language, Gambler's Stealth Seduction, and generally just look up IOI's. There are tons of good books out there on body language from less of a seduction stand point.
/r/seduction18/10/10 01:19 AM
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I weep one tear every time I see a post like this. Welcome to your new dating life, son.
/r/seduction18/10/10 12:51 AM
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:D There's truth to it. If you only bang her once the first night, she's not likely to come back. Twice improves your chances. Three seals the deal.
/r/seduction18/10/10 12:47 AM
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I do. They must be perky. Seriously, you guys act like you never talk to girls just because they're good lookin'. I know this is Reddit, but come onnnnnnnn!
/r/seduction18/10/10 12:47 AM
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Fuck her once, you're a dunce. Fuck her twice, she'll say, "That was nice. . ." Fuck her three times, and she'll be back for four. Who gives a shit if it doesn't rhyme?
/r/seduction17/10/10 06:33 PM
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You: "Blah blah list o' things to do. . . I need to start getting cleaned up because there's a deadline for xyz." Her: "Do you want me to go?" You: Give her a quick kiss, and say "I'll call you tonight/tomorrow." Then call her at that time, you don't want to ruin her for the next guy. When you do call her, be brief, tell her how much fun you had, and get the hell off the phone. Edit: I emboldened those two words because they boost compliance by 30-70% depending on which marketing tract you read.
/r/seduction17/10/10 06:29 PM
1

Maybe she's not holding her conversation up, but her tits might be.
/r/seduction17/10/10 06:22 PM
5

Sounds like The 9 Immutable Laws of Pick-Up on Roosh V's blog.
/r/seduction17/10/10 06:04 PM
1

Totally. Then again, maybe not, who knows? My feeling is that OP didn't ask basic logistics at the beginning, (who are you here with, did you drive, where's your boyfriend) and she wanted him to know her situation. This doesn't mean she didn't want him to make a move, it just means she wanted him to be discrete when he did. Of course she was drunk, it's possible she may have just had a moment where she lost herself in the bumping and grinding and then suddenly remembered she had a bf and was so …
/r/seduction17/10/10 06:01 PM
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Haha! It's funny, that feeling of being seduced. There's a balance, you want her to think she's seducing you (and not just using you), but you want to be the one actually directing the seduction. Not only that, but when you get to a point where your part in it seems effortless, you'll know you're doing it right.
/r/seduction17/10/10 05:57 PM
2

Gah! You're right.
/r/seduction17/10/10 05:51 PM
1

Man, I love running into sedditors in other subreddits.
/r/seduction17/10/10 05:51 PM
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Nope, push pull, pushpull, push/pull. Instead of a cocktease be a pussytease.
/r/seduction16/10/10 11:02 PM
1

Great insight on both your comments. OP was way too needy.
/r/seduction16/10/10 11:00 PM
1

Cool. Have you been doing this long?
/r/seduction16/10/10 10:33 PM
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I'm 32 and pretty much date in the 19-21 range. I just tease the shit out of them, and that seems to work.
/r/seduction16/10/10 05:04 AM
1

Amirite? So you're in 502. Where 'bouts? I'm in Louisville.
/r/seduction16/10/10 04:04 AM
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Something a lot of people forget, or don't even realize from the beginning, is that all the canned material etc. is for people who don't know how to talk like a "normal person." The material exists as a crutch to give a virtual experience leading to minor successes that give a feeling of accomplishment, which then snowballs into greater understanding of how conversations work and greater successes and greater feelings of confidence.
/r/seduction15/10/10 04:00 PM
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Okay, so this discussion has been going on for a while now. Assanova is basically advocating natural game over verbal game. How ridiculous is this? Are you really going to pull a girl from a club without saying one word to her? Doubt it. Are you going to pull her using verbal game only? Again, not likely. Both are needed.
/r/seduction15/10/10 03:46 PM
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Great username. I'm with netwiz101. Your repartee with her feels playful, so I'm going to say roll with it. When she says "fuck you," (in this case, not in every case, but in this specific one) it sounds playful and challenging. There's a couple of responses below that sound really. . .well, they lack cajones. A simple Dominant/submissive frame should work, i.e. you say something like "Watch the potty-mouth or I'm gonna have to lay you over my knee, missy. . ." I think she wants a guy who's asse…
/r/seduction15/10/10 03:36 PM
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Think about it this way: ticking the box for casual sex WILL scare off some potentials. Not ticking that box WILL NOT scare off girls who are looking for casual sex. My OkC profile has pictures based on what the OkC blog says get the most response rate. I have not and will not fill out any of the questions or take the tests. Every girl on there is 0% match, 0% friend, and 0% enemy. Girls who I messaged in the past with an old profile that I'd filled out millions of questions on would ignore me, …
/r/seduction15/10/10 03:14 PM
1

Or just smile and own it like a boss.
/r/seduction10/10/10 09:14 PM
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Calves, forearms, and back. All those 17th century fops wearing tight stockings and capri pants that showed off their calves--most of those guys weren't gay.
/r/seduction10/10/10 01:38 PM
2

Actually, I just saw this recently on Unbreakable. Don't do it, it's lower value.
/r/seduction10/10/10 01:34 PM
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2 is Gold, my friend. I've been using that frame for about a month now and it hasn't let me down except when I've forgotten about it.
/r/seduction09/10/10 12:12 PM
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Good job!
/r/seduction08/10/10 11:51 AM
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Heh, you know what's funny? Canned material was created exactly and specifically for situations like this. You don't need canned openers, but canned transitions and DHV stories would really give you something to talk about until you get to another natural conversational topic.
/r/seduction08/10/10 11:44 AM
1

Which movie?
/r/seduction08/10/10 11:37 AM
1

Wikipedia kokology
/r/seduction08/10/10 03:01 AM
1

Verify what? That is indeed a creepy drawing of a mouth.
/r/seduction08/10/10 02:59 AM
0

Just tell him "Hey, something came up, I won't be able to go." and leave it at that.
/r/seduction08/10/10 02:55 AM
2

Save the full stop for when she seems to be pulling away a little bit. Right now, she's still interested. She's reciprocating kino, she's inviting you to things and asking to do things with you. . .she's interested, dude. A full stop now might just make her think you're a flake or uninterested, then you've got all that time for her to cool off. I'd say your next action is to rent a really great movie, and have her over to watch it while you ESCALATE, ASAP.
/r/seduction08/10/10 02:52 AM
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tl;dr--if you're not sure, move forward. Okay, if there's one thing I'm sure of, it's IF YOU'RE NOT SURE MOVE FORWARD We spend so much time focused on what IOIs are that we never learned what IODs (indicators of disinterest, for those of you who hadn't already figured it out) and just assumed that everything that wasn't an IOI was either neutral or an IOD but never learned the difference. Often neutral is mistaken for IOD, when instead it should be looked at as an opportunity to move the pickup …
/r/seduction08/10/10 02:46 AM
1

Wasn't that in Hellraiser?
/r/seduction08/10/10 01:29 AM
2

Agreed. Except don't get shot down officially. Hell, OP might be taller than her and that's all that would matter in that case.
/r/seduction07/10/10 08:18 PM
2

To each their own, but does that mean that if you were an AFC you wouldn't spank it to pictures of girls who looked 18 or 19?
/r/seduction07/10/10 08:16 PM
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I'd be interested to see if anyone could make this work for them consistently. On the whole though, I feel pretty comfortable with facebook closes. I can understand why people wouldn't and I do like email a little bit better.
/r/seduction07/10/10 08:13 PM
1

That was kinda gay, huh? :D
/r/seduction07/10/10 08:03 PM
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There are four types of people who give PUA a bad reputation. Liars. Cheats. Bad Pickup Artists. Those who would manipulate others for their own personal gain at the others' expense. Anchoring is a technique used in NLP to condition a subject to a certain response, a la Pavlov's Dog. One major reason PUA comes off as distasteful is that anyone who has read The Game remembers Ross Jeffries using it in a somewhat shadowy way. The fallout from that has even gone so far that now Mr. Jeffries has tak…
/r/seduction07/10/10 07:57 PM
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Ok. It sounded a little corny so I wanted to be sure. Keeping in mind I wasn't there, but you're right about over gaming an HB7. You can't neg them and you have to be very light with your teasing. Pay attention to what she says. She said she doesn't get hit on much? Is this a blow to her ego? Does she feel better about herself when you hit on her (hint: most women do)? Is she likely to get sexual with you if you do hit on her (hint: not if she doesn't earn the hit)? You obviously have her comfor…
/r/seduction07/10/10 07:32 PM
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Sweet little flower? Long con? Fish in the boat? Sweet pollen? Do you talk like that in real life? You're right, you may be over-doing it a tad.
/r/seduction07/10/10 07:07 PM
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Her: ". . .blah blah blah felonies and demons in my body" You: "Oh Shit! I think we just popped a tire! Get out and look!" Her: "Okay. . .Nope, fine!" You: screeching tires Her: "Hey, wait for me!"
/r/seduction07/10/10 04:17 PM
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Her: ". . .blah blah blah felonies and demons in my body" You: "Oh Shit! I think we just popped a tire! Get out and look!" Her: "Okay. . .Nope, fine!" You: screeching tires Her: "Hey, wait for me!"
/r/seduction07/10/10 04:17 PM
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Sounds like you're doing a great job building attraction, escalating, and maybe even isolating within the initial pickup location. You need to do a little (not too much) more comfort building to squash ASD. Also, ask logistical questions in the beginning: "How's it going, what are you doing later, who are you here with, how do you know each other" as she gets more comfortable you can throw in "how are you getting home later" if she's not designated driver or if she didn't drive herself. Logistic…
/r/seduction07/10/10 04:08 PM
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How soon is too soon? It doesn't matter. Immediately if it seems right. Trust your balls not your anxiety.
/r/seduction07/10/10 03:58 PM
1

OkC itself has an IM which will be a little word bubble next to her name. It's blue if she has it on, its gray with a blue minus if she doesn't. Half the time girls ignore it if you initate IM without introducing the idea first. Secondly, OkC's IM runs really slow and drops all the time and can even freeze Firefox, so typically I tell girls to give me their IM and I'll chat with them off OkC. "Hey, do you IM? Because you seemed interesting and I'd like to get to know you in real time. . ."
/r/seduction07/10/10 03:57 PM
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Hey look, OP, these guys are right. The fact that you're new at this is definitely going to be a challenge to overcome. What if you were trying to build a skyscraper and you'd only ever read one book on engineering and never tried it before. Do you think you could do it and not get somebody killed? That said, I think it is possible. The only thing women are more forgiving than is gravity, so we have some hope, yes? Think about this: You are the prize. She does stuff for you, you give her attenti…
/r/seduction07/10/10 03:10 PM
1

I like the username.
/r/seduction07/10/10 02:55 PM
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pickup_startist in the last couple weeks I've seen you post some really cool thoughts and whatnot, and more and more I look forward to running into you in the most random subreddits. You get it! Upvoted and friended.
/r/seduction07/10/10 02:47 PM
1

Are you high? Fat asses are the best! :D
/r/seduction07/10/10 02:39 PM
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They do. Now it's fun to totally deconstruct it. "Hey, wanna come over to my place, I don't have any movies to watch or games or any food or anything. . .we'll probably just have to make out." Only use it when you're sure it's a go. Otherwise just do the classic.
/r/seduction07/10/10 02:36 PM
1

Yeah, it's not something to practice in a close community before your inner game is phenomenal.
/r/seduction06/10/10 01:54 AM
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This is where you need to step up. Your body will speak to his body and his body will respond. Physical escalation is the key. If he pulls away it's more likely that he's shy than uninterested, so try it a couple times. Be subtle with it too. Lean against him. It's likely he'll get the hint and put his arm around you. If he doesn't and he doesn't pull away, put your arm around him. He may just be a little intimidated. Play thumb wrestle with him. Walk close and let your hands touch, if his conti…
/r/seduction05/10/10 10:57 PM
2

All your friends are trying to keep you socially conditioned, not well-laid.
/r/seduction05/10/10 10:51 PM
1

Don't forget that the Mystery Method/indirect game was developed for nines and tens because direct didn't work. That said, I think direct game has come a long way since then and if your direct game is tight, you might be able to do it.
/r/seduction05/10/10 10:46 PM
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I think both your comments are respectable and accurate. One minor counter I would put forth is that when in set with a girl who doesn't seem to be going for your game, take the frame that she's shy and awkward. Often that will turn the set around. It seems to me that OP is applying that frame to the broader pickup experience. I'm interested to see if he's able to maintain his value and this frame and finally bag this one.
/r/seduction05/10/10 10:28 PM
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Seddit Challenges Week #2 is updated with this week's challenges on the r/sedditchallenges subreddit. I created the subreddit in an attempt at putting all the challenges in one spot so noobs could easily find them. So far it doesn't seem that popular. Please weigh in with your opinion and any alternative ways to keep this organized.
/r/seduction05/10/10 05:25 AM
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This is great, listen to him, OP.
/r/seduction05/10/10 04:37 AM
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This is really great advice and a wonderful analogy.
/r/seduction05/10/10 04:33 AM
1

Sweet, I'm definitely going to subscribe to these.
/r/seduction05/10/10 04:30 AM
1

Hey I've got friends near there. I might get in touch next time I'm up. Judging by OkCupid there's tons of gorgeous ladies at IU. I'm a little jealous.
/r/seduction04/10/10 08:35 PM
2

Awesome, now go knock out the bottom!
/r/seduction04/10/10 08:30 PM
1

Great point about their rep and privacy!
/r/seduction04/10/10 08:28 PM
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Hey. Nobody's gonna get 'em all, Ace. However, it sounds like you're starting to talk yourself out of a sure thing before it's even happened though. Stop it right now! Reread your post. You know exactly what to do! Furthermore you have rumor and innuendo working to your advantage! Eeeeeven furthermore than that, you banged a girl with the technique you're questioning, a technique YOU KNOW IS SOLID! So let all doubts fade and REMEMBER THAT FEELING OF CONFIDENCE because YOU HAVE THE PAST RESULTS a…
/r/seduction04/10/10 01:46 PM
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How can you escalate in a situation like that? Let's say you've already opened her, and that every step of the way she's open to your escalation (if at any time she isn't, she'll pull away from you) and you're standing there, surrounded by people. Stand with your arm against hers. If she doesn't pull away, escalate to touching her arm as you emphasize points in the conversation. Then standing leg to leg, this is more sexual--receptivity to this is great to have. Then touch her shoulder, talk to …
/r/seduction04/10/10 01:37 PM
1

True.
/r/seduction04/10/10 01:25 PM
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Great advice.
/r/seduction04/10/10 01:25 PM
1

Worked for me.
/r/seduction04/10/10 01:15 PM
1

Something came up and I couldn't go. . . Otherwise, very nice!
/r/seduction04/10/10 12:49 PM
1

New subreddit dedicated to weekly challenges.
/r/seduction04/10/10 04:00 AM
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Embarrassingly, I did not achieve the challenging level which was my goal. I did open at least a dozen girls today as there was an art fair going on in my neighborhood, and I had a couple open me because of my new hat :) Also, on Friday night I went out and stayed in a mixed set for about 12 minutes.
/r/seduction04/10/10 03:52 AM
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POST YOUR RESULTS BELOW THIS!!!
/r/seduction04/10/10 03:49 AM
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Glad to hear it!
/r/seduction04/10/10 03:45 AM
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Yup.
/r/seduction04/10/10 03:27 AM
0

Hah! I never noticed that!
/r/seduction03/10/10 03:44 PM
3

Keep the date with her, but in the mean time keep your other plates spinning. And don't worry--a turned cheek is nothing. If she had pulled away and looked shocked, that is something else entirely.
/r/seduction03/10/10 03:39 PM
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Great! It really sounds like your issue is with the horniness. Like how do you approach a woman in a sexual frame if you aren't horny. 1st, you may want to see an endocrinologist. 2nd, Cut out all soy, non-organic meats, and as much food packaged in plastic as you can. Stay away from night-shade vegetables. These all have trace to moderate amounts of estrogens, phytoestrogens, and xenoestrogens. If you're taking any herbal supplements, make sure they don't have any estrogen in them. 3rd, Read Th…
/r/seduction03/10/10 03:34 PM
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Exercise, bro. Put that testosterone toward a positive use. Also, work on your "immovability"--that is, practice being unaffected by girls' sexiness, their shit tests, etc.
/r/seduction03/10/10 02:19 AM
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Whew--too much escalation. If I had a nickle for every time. . .that's a valuable lesson.
/r/seduction02/10/10 10:51 PM
2

Your thoughts about alpha are right on target. An analogy I've used is do you want to be the biggest bully alpha wolf who's pack is hungry and afraid of him and will one day relentlessly challenge his dominance until he wears out, or do you want to be the proprietor alpha wolf who is in charge because he's most able to make sure his pack is healthy, well-fed and cohesive? Which pack would be strongest in a turfwar (think business or just getting through hard times?) Or think of it like being hos…
/r/seduction02/10/10 10:46 PM
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As you're talking to her, play around with your distance. Slowly get closer and closer, then move away (note: NO LEANING!!! Move your whole body closer!) Feel the difference in pressure/tension. As you're talking. . . pause. . . to in...crease. . .the tension. . .and then release it by talking at a normal speed. Now do both together (move in slowly and slow down your speech). You can do this while she's talking too by slowly moving closer and playfully (express this on your face too) saying thin…
/r/seduction02/10/10 10:31 PM
2

Triple step, triple step, rock step--East Coast swing/Jitterbug. Also, look up Charleston and Balboa. They're for faster songs and will add flavor to your basic standard Jitterbug because you can throw them in anywhere if you can count. And finally there's the Lindy Hop which is the flashy stuff you see in all the movies like Swing Kids. Balboa is highly recommended--it's a dancer's dance, and very intimate. Blues is also recommended for its intimacy although it's of course much slower and free …
/r/seduction02/10/10 10:22 PM
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Dude, that's what I was doing Thursday night! It's so much fun!
/r/seduction02/10/10 10:17 PM
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The "I know something you don't know smile" is. awesome. I figured that one out a few months ago, and when you really connect with it you can start to mess with the girl so that you both have a lot of fun. Her: "blah blah blah" Me: eye contact, mysterious smile Her: "blah bla--what?" Me: big mysterious smile Her: "Whaaa-aaaaaaat?" Me: bite back smile, eyebrows up, eyes a-twinkle, barely perceptible shaking of the head--"playful denial face," as if to say "I wasn't smiling." Her: "Come onnnnnn" u…
/r/seduction02/10/10 12:41 PM
2

Ask this guy
/r/seduction02/10/10 05:46 AM
1

Generally, no. They are social.
/r/seduction02/10/10 05:14 AM
5

I would've just ignored her for a while.
/r/seduction01/10/10 12:37 PM
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I'm talking about broader mating markets where you have to be something or give something to get something. What he doesn't get is that a lot of Game is geared toward being something (a better man) and giving something (more value). Who gains? The non-gaming men who pursue the women who have been abandoned by the new, marginal gamers. This reminds me of yesterday's post by rmbarnes. The two are at odds, though, this economist seems to think that game will fade away while Roosh is pretty sure it …
/r/seduction01/10/10 12:07 PM
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Nice. Would you be into doing an AMA on Seddit regarding value building and DHVs? Or maybe one on one night stands?
/r/seduction01/10/10 04:43 AM
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Yes!! Upvotes for CrystalPUA above and pickup_startist below! You guys get it! There is no such thing as "not using pickup material!" It's all pickup material, even, or especially, when it "just happens naturally."
/r/seduction01/10/10 04:36 AM
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Agreed. I do like how OP held out for the hotter chick, though--standards are good.
/r/seduction01/10/10 04:31 AM
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Mentally--Figure out what you like in life. I like a sense of accomplishment, so I set myself little tasks to accomplish that get bigger and bigger until I'm feeling energized and confident, with the added bonus that I get shit done. Physiologically--Exercise prior to going out or doing whatever it is you need motivation for.
/r/seduction30/09/10 09:46 PM
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Man, give equal time focusing on the positives you did! Learn from your mistakes but check out that nice sense of accomplishment you get from the things you did right! You made changes in your life (gym etc.), you went out, you approached, you opened, regardless how it went off you had an answer for one of her shit tests! You did a helluva lot better than I did my first time out after an LTR.
/r/seduction30/09/10 09:41 PM
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. . .it didn't hinder my progress with the mark. . . There you go. Own it. Not my favorite people in the world, but I bet Tito Ortiz had no problem telling Jenna Jameson what he does for a living. Edit: Also, upvote for hilariously incongruent user name. Edit 2: You have a high-status job and volunteer position. Don't sweat it. Bragging ain't right, and neither is hiding it. Do this exercise: Talk to yourself in a mirror, or a friend, about what you ate for dinner. Feel what it's like emotionall…
/r/seduction30/09/10 09:24 PM
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I saw something similar on the Stealth Seduction website by Gambler, and tried it out, with pretty good success. I'd say the main difference is that due to the challenges you face versus what he (and I) experience as a white guy, he teaches it to be softer-- he definitely walks with confidence, but as he turns her, he just lets his hand touch and apply a very eensy weensy little bit of pressure (you both were in agreement here), then he lets her turn herself to see who is there, and he looks mor…
/r/seduction30/09/10 09:14 PM
0

Your sweeping generalizations about PUA are getting a little stale. Anyway, you're welcome to hand your balls over to your wife and let your kids lead you around by the nose. I won't.
/r/seduction30/09/10 09:03 PM
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So you'll be hiring, right? :D I'm hammering out a similar plan. I sorta feel that that Roosh article is close to reality already, not some near-distant future. Where I live, the 9s and 10s are all starfuckers. He described the situation perfectly, so I'm working on some local notoriety.
/r/seduction30/09/10 08:57 PM
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Re-seduce her every day. That's how you keep the spark alive. Learn her "love language" (hint: there's a book). Also, I highly recommend Pandora's Box by Vin Di Carlo. Use it wisely and she'll be devoted to you. Be alpha, women hate it when the he-man they marry becomes a wuss for the rest of that marriage.
/r/seduction30/09/10 08:54 PM
2

Yes!
/r/seduction30/09/10 08:52 PM
0

If you have kids and you're not alpha, you're going to be one of those pussy-whipped sandal-wearing daddies chasing their goddamned hellspawn all over my store begging them, no not telling them, begging them to behave. And if you think that you don't have to reseduce your significant other every day after the glow wears off, then you're out of your mind fartsmcgoo.
/r/seduction30/09/10 08:51 PM
1

Oops, did you catch my edit?
/r/seduction30/09/10 08:48 PM
1

Before my last exclusive relationship I had 4 fwbs plus the one who became my girlfriend. Just after we broke up I was getting a new lay about every nine days with one regular fwb. It's been about two weeks since my last new unique lay, though I'm still seeing my FWB about 3 or 4 nights a week. I just need some time off from sarging and dating--that shit's exhausting plus I found that I was ignoring some other important things. I think changing my job will help. Nothing about it is energizing ex…
/r/seduction30/09/10 08:45 PM
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I like this idea.
/r/seduction30/09/10 08:38 PM
1

Cool.
/r/seduction30/09/10 08:38 PM
1

I see you've done it before, I hope you learned from it.
/r/seduction30/09/10 12:07 PM
1

Keep us updated.
/r/seduction30/09/10 01:18 AM
1

Seriously, nobody's ever suggested a new restaurant or bar for you to go to?
/r/seduction29/09/10 12:01 PM
2

Arrange to meet somewhere she hasn't been, then tell her to give you her number because it'll be easier to give her directions.
/r/seduction29/09/10 03:04 AM
1

Thanks, man! Glad I could help.
/r/seduction29/09/10 03:00 AM
1

Any suggestions? We can include them next week.
/r/seduction29/09/10 02:37 AM
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:D
/r/seduction29/09/10 02:01 AM
2

Just the other day I started a weekly challenge with a beginner's task for guys like you.
/r/seduction29/09/10 01:20 AM
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Disqualify. You disqualify yourself as a suitor early on to lower her guard, then once you've achieved attraction, you disqualify her by teasing or acting bored whenever she acts in a way that is not moving toward your end goals. The other side of that is you never qualify yourself because you're a strong man who does what he thinks is right and will make himself happy, and you make her qualify herself to you by giving her little hoops to jump through and you reward her with attention, validatio…
/r/seduction29/09/10 01:18 AM
1

YES!!!
/r/seduction29/09/10 01:06 AM
1

Me too. It's like just forcing your muscles to do it makes you release serotonin or something.
/r/seduction28/09/10 11:12 PM
2

Augh. Me too. I have a bunch of friends, but only one who wants to be a wing, and he, sadly, just doesn't get it.
/r/seduction28/09/10 11:07 PM
-1

If those guys were painters and not PUAs their stuff would be on refrigerator doors.
/r/seduction28/09/10 11:01 PM
2

You should take social dance. It is all about the male leading. You'll be able to put your "I'm a modern woman so I have to get my own door" mental frame out of the way. Being modern doesn't have to discount or disclude a touch of chivalry. It's about finding the guy with the right mix for you.
/r/seduction28/09/10 10:55 PM
3

That's kind of it. Imagine there is a thick line radiating out from her feet, this line is as wide as her hips and points whatever direction her body is square to. Approach along that line, but to one side or the other, not down the middle (unless you're playing very direct game). Smile, make eye contact and as you get close, about where her forcefield would be if she had one, pause (you're facing opposite directions ("past each other"), about arm's reach apart) and turn slightly away without br…
/r/seduction28/09/10 10:47 PM
1

I thought that already was the rule. Anyway, I second that.
/r/seduction28/09/10 10:38 PM
9

I disagree with everyone's "You look lonely. . ." opener. It's just going to make her feel bad. It would be better to approach her side, turn shoulder to shoulder, lean away, and strike up a conversation about something. Make an observation of your environment or something interesting and point it out to her. Also, really cute or really hot girls are almost never alone. If she's maybe a 6 or a 7, do something like say "Hey," then nod at a noisy group and then tell her "Looks like they don't know…
/r/seduction28/09/10 10:30 PM
2

To clarify, one doesn't sneak up out of the field of view, one approaches casually from the side and turns shoulder to shoulder at the last moment, a sort of "J" shaped trajectory--and I guarantee (if you're a girl) that there are plenty of guys who could do that while playfully making fun of the way you eat and you'd still be happy to see them. That said, I think there would be a higher chance that you'd want them to join you if they just made an observation to capture your interest and waited …
/r/seduction28/09/10 10:14 PM
8

You guys should be upvoting this. Lambach will probably learn more about pickup from talking to this lady than any of us will on Seddit.
/r/seduction28/09/10 10:08 PM
2

Johnny Wolf was the only one I heard of just because I heard about the summit (he set it up.)
/r/seduction28/09/10 10:02 PM
1

:D
/r/seduction28/09/10 11:52 AM
1

Sometimes I think I would like a job like that :)
/r/seduction28/09/10 03:57 AM
1

Huh. Not in my town.
/r/seduction28/09/10 03:17 AM
3

Something I learned yesterday: a shy person and an introverted person are totally different. The introvert is the one at the party over in the corner by himself, totally relaxed and comfortable because that's where he wants to be. The shy person is the one at the party who is over in the corner by himself, desperately wishing he could be up dancing and talking with everyone else. I didn't go to any of my middle school or high school dances until my senior prom where the girl ditched me and I dan…
/r/seduction28/09/10 01:37 AM
1

This is awesome man.
/r/seduction28/09/10 01:16 AM
2

Actually, if conversation has turned sexual and the vibe is definitely there and you've already had your hands all over each other, speaking as a man, I see no reason not to go ahead and whisper in his ear that you're horny.
/r/seduction28/09/10 12:48 AM
3

When she says "I thought you were gay" ask her "what gave you that idea?" and kiss her.
/r/seduction27/09/10 11:09 PM
2

This is still Reddit. . . join us if you like :P Just make sure you post your results in the comments like the rest of us. I'm always curious why a girl wants to play, though.
/r/seduction27/09/10 11:06 PM
1

Yeah, moving away is definitely a no go. Had she turned her head she may have been open to a more dominant frame on your part. You're probably right about moving too fast. Girls seem to like it when we move with a slow deliberateness and sexual eye contact.
/r/seduction27/09/10 05:51 PM
3

Dream big, boys, dream big.
/r/seduction27/09/10 03:59 PM
3

Dude if I knew that's what I'd be doing right now. That's one reason I posted it as a challenge.
/r/seduction27/09/10 03:50 PM
2

We can't hit all points in one week. Suggest something with a self-improvement theme or better social rapport and we can do it next week.
/r/seduction27/09/10 03:49 PM
1

How did she reject you? Verbally or physically? If it was verbal, what was her body language?
/r/seduction27/09/10 03:27 PM
1

Great job! I just saw this bit on trying to move conversation forward by asking too many questions. It's from Gambler's Master PUA University's Killer Conversations--Ask questions, but don't ask too many--keep it fluid. Basically 1. Elicit information with a question, assumption, or association. After she responds, make a statement that expands upon the subject. Before the energy of the conversation wanes Ask another question or change the subject.
/r/seduction27/09/10 02:22 PM
2

This guy is also a pretty good online club dance instructor.
/r/seduction27/09/10 01:42 PM
1

This is good, thank you.
/r/seduction27/09/10 01:39 PM
3

Let's see, he established social proof, leadership of men, and set the standard for conversation and group inclusion. He made sure everyone had a fun and interesting time, even the chick who was in a bad mood. Sounds pretty alpha to me. I wasn't there to see his body language or watch his eye movements, and there were no AMOGs to challenge him, but that's not all there is to Alpha.
/r/seduction27/09/10 01:39 PM
3

Hey man, just wanted to say good job. Looks like you have a pretty good understanding of group dynamics and storytelling/DHVs--two things I'm just beginning to understand myself. Keep it up!
/r/seduction27/09/10 01:35 PM
2

I'll see if we can make that happen.
/r/seduction27/09/10 01:19 PM
4

Okay if you say so. You still have to approach 3 women on the street and get their opinion on something. Also: women everywhere have an opinion on what's hot--even if it's sleeveless flannel and John Deere hats. Secondly, appearing a little effeminate is disarming to most girls--you don't have to ask in front of guys, and if the girl is homophobic who cares, she's a girl and hopefully not so much bigger than you that she'd be likely to beat you up. Who knows? It might actually get you in with on…
/r/seduction27/09/10 01:13 PM
2

Awesome! I myself will be attempting the Challenging level.
/r/seduction27/09/10 01:06 PM
3

Stylish and competent.
/r/seduction27/09/10 01:06 PM
2

Yes. . .muah hah hah hah haaaaaaaaaaaah.
/r/seduction27/09/10 01:05 PM
2

If you regularly talk to women, try one of the more advanced challenges. I'm a little concerned that there may be too much of a leap between the beginner and challenging levels, but if that's true, there's no shame in failing, only in not trying.
/r/seduction27/09/10 01:04 PM
7

The girls at your college wear clothes, right? If not--get me to your admissions office!
/r/seduction27/09/10 01:02 PM
1

It stays up until we do.
/r/seduction27/09/10 12:55 PM
1

Yeah. I've thought quite a bit about her wanting to use me as an ego boost. I've actually dated "lesbians" in the past, waaaaaa-haaay-haaaaaayyy back in college and I am friends with a few. Oh shit, I should ask them. Derp.
/r/seduction27/09/10 04:45 AM
1

It's true. Taoist sperm retention does it too, but that can clog your shit up if you don't do it right.
/r/seduction27/09/10 04:05 AM
1

Love Systems' Magic Bullets Edit: This is an ebook and not a dvd or audiobook, and it can lead to overthinking and repetitiveness--still I believe it is foundational and necessary if you don't know how to DHV or tell good stories.
/r/seduction27/09/10 03:16 AM
1

sigh I remember that one.
/r/seduction27/09/10 03:11 AM
1

Daaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
/r/seduction27/09/10 03:08 AM
1

Damn you caught me!
/r/seduction26/09/10 02:35 PM
1

Dude, I'm super paranoid about that, but I also feel that sometime soon I'll be able to get the girl devoted enough, and I'll independently of that be confident enough, that I won't worry about it when she does go out.
/r/seduction26/09/10 02:35 PM
0

This. Is. Perfect.
/r/seduction26/09/10 02:28 PM
1

Wait--I'm supposed to ask that? Nobody ever told me this.
/r/seduction26/09/10 02:27 PM
1

The point isn't to approach these girls to get laid. It's to get over your fear of approaching--if you get laid then great! Good job! If you get friend zoned then you just opened up another social circle that you didn't have before, one that probably has other girls in it. We'll leave the "every open must lead to sex" mindset for the try-hards.
/r/seduction26/09/10 03:08 AM
1

Stop thinking so much--it is best to get out of your head when you're actually sarging--workout, listen to energizing music, clap you hands say "whoooooooo!" Go up to three women a day and ask them where they think a cool guy can get some nice clothes.
/r/seduction26/09/10 01:55 AM
2

Oof, online game is harder because there is no body language--that said it's easier because there's no approach anxiety. The classic examples are the "Nice blahblahblah--is it real/did you make it yourself?" type negs. Let's say in one picture she has really a really nice highlight job, you could say "Hey, nice hair in pic #2, is it naturally that color?" and her self-perception has to come down a notch to answer that truthfully.
/r/seduction26/09/10 01:30 AM
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Wrong. Granted I wasn't there to read the body language or tonality but I guarantee she took it as an insult and mentally put him in the "don't sleep with" category. Negs are indirect and presented as left-handed compliments. OP called her narcissistic--direct and insulting. Also, by asking her a question like that, "Are you blahblahblah?" he was asking her to qualify herself. He didn't even transition or spark attraction yet--he skipped necessary steps.
/r/seduction26/09/10 12:11 AM
3

You're opening fine except for the first one. Don't open with an insult. Work on your transitions.
/r/seduction25/09/10 10:40 PM
0

Seconded.
/r/seduction25/09/10 10:39 PM
7

. . .fuck her in the middle of London's biggest mall. I think I speak for Seddit when I say "Please do this."
/r/seduction25/09/10 10:34 PM
1

I don't really understand why one wouldn't want to pick a skill to work on and improve. Aren't you on Seddit to get better at pickup? Yes, developing things organically definitely gives one a natural feel to things, but there may be something one misses. . .a blind spot sort of deal that these assignments might open up an awareness to. Nobody's forcing you to do it, but keep an eye on it just in case--you just may get an "Aha! I missed that!" moment a few weeks down the road.
/r/seduction25/09/10 01:48 AM
0

I thought yours was funny.
/r/seduction24/09/10 02:44 PM
7

My best advice for noob questions like this is to just work out this week and listen to great music. Pump yourself up everyday. Do fun, active things that will give you something to talk about. The last thing you want to do right now is over-think this, so get out of your head by getting physical. Any time you start to think about the girl or what to do on the date, it's time to refocus and instead think about something fun you would like to do, then go do it. Reserve all the PUA self-reflection…
/r/seduction24/09/10 01:10 PM
1

I played the whole thing off by making her feel all high and mighty. Just remember, your strongest attractant is the ability to make others feel good. You only "neg" the hb9+s and then, only just a bit. Tease everyone else and it should be done playfully or they won't know you're teasing, and they'll just think you're a nasty person.
/r/seduction24/09/10 01:05 PM
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This isn't fight club and I can't tell if you're trolling or if you're serious. I'd recommend that anyone who wants to start a fight join a martial arts club. After 12 years and a ruptured spleen, broken wrist, twisted knee, and numerous broken noses, kneed and kicked balls, chipped teeth, poked eyes (fingers and wooden training knives) and black eyes (including one where I got hit on the side of the face so hard both eyes blacked) and once being choked to unconciousness, I can attest that getti…
/r/seduction24/09/10 11:58 AM
1

Generally you want to refrain from just complimenting anyone until they've "earned" it. However, since this exercise is more about just getting out there and actually talking to women, not about sparking attraction or any other aspect of the game, it won't count against you if that's how you open.
/r/seduction24/09/10 11:50 AM
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I'll go first: Beginner: Approach 10 "put together" women this week, and ask them if they know a good place where a guy can find really great clothing. More Advanced: Isolate 2 girls for k-close.
/r/seduction24/09/10 03:51 AM
2

Met a Ukranian woman a while back. Damn.
/r/seduction24/09/10 03:36 AM
1

Hmm. I can think of a few people I've seen in the gym that I'd like to see full of me. . .
/r/seduction24/09/10 02:15 AM
3

Self deprecating humor is what all the guys who want to sleep with her and don't do to get approval from her. You did right by being cocky. If you start to be a little more confident and playful she might even laugh.
/r/seduction23/09/10 03:05 AM
1

Don't be lazy. Anyway, I do alright for myself. I'll do better once I've worked this pizzabelly off. I don't know what kind of exercise to do to get rid of the ugly, so I don't worry about that one.
/r/seduction23/09/10 02:18 AM
1

I forgot about cliffslist. Thank you for reminding me.
/r/seduction23/09/10 02:16 AM
3

You're putting way too much energy into redirecting a train wreck. I thought it sounded weird at first, but the whole keep it short and sweet thing really works and is recommended because of that. It shows you've got other shit to do besides type out desperate pleas for sex, which you may not think they are, but the girls will (write to your audience, not to yourself; also, your writing should defend itself, if you have to defend it you failed as a writer--does that make sense in this context?) …
/r/seduction23/09/10 02:13 AM
1

Are you ready to change? Do you want women to like you? Do you want to like yourself? Are you willing to commit to it so deeply that you will face more hardship, heartache and criticism than you have ever gotten in your life, for just one drop of self-esteem and respect from others?
/r/seduction23/09/10 01:56 AM
1

Agreed. Also, canned material is just training wheels for beginners so they can feel what a real conversation might be like. It has it's place but ultimately the point is to try it out without them.
/r/seduction22/09/10 11:45 PM
1

Don't make it creepy! I remember seeing something in the stealth seduction video that I thought was good. You can be romantic, but if it's tongue in cheek. Every girl wants to be serenaded, but if it really happens it's weird, but if you make a joke out of it, it's funny and cute, and she still has the option to brag about you serenading her further down the road. Make it funny!
/r/seduction22/09/10 11:28 PM
2

Good luck!
/r/seduction22/09/10 11:17 PM
1

Care to explain?
/r/seduction22/09/10 10:30 PM
5

This is adorable. God, if only I were 17 again-- I would put so many smiles on so many girls faces, surely it couldn't be a sin.
/r/seduction22/09/10 12:26 AM
1

Yes!
/r/seduction22/09/10 12:20 AM
1

This dude named Kenneth Cohen wrote a book called 'the Way of Qigong' and he also did an audio course on meditation that I really liked. In one or the other, I forget which, he said that you can make any emotion you want in any part of your body. I thought that sounded pretty cool, so I tried it out. Well, it's hard. But one day I realized that that feeling of anxiety is identical to, but just a few inches below that of excitement--one is low energy one is high energy, so I started to imagine th…
/r/seduction22/09/10 12:07 AM
1

YES!
/r/seduction21/09/10 11:47 PM
1

Thank you.
/r/seduction21/09/10 11:46 PM
1

Thank you.
/r/seduction21/09/10 11:46 PM
1

It depends on where you are with your game. Do you make regular approaches? Can you tell who the alpha man and alpha girl in the room are? Can you tell when a girl is interested in someone? Do you keep people entertained, or do you feel like they're bored? Are you confident or not? Can you calibrate your game to the girl? If you're approaching regularly, can you approach anyone? Can you make someone who's in a mad mood have a better day? It goes on.
/r/seduction21/09/10 11:45 PM
1

Appreciate it.
/r/seduction21/09/10 11:42 PM
1

Thank you.
/r/seduction21/09/10 11:42 PM
1

Thanks, man!
/r/seduction21/09/10 11:35 PM
1

Thanks, maybe I'll try that (the writing not the murdering) :D I've also been told I have a future in erotic literature.
/r/seduction21/09/10 11:34 PM
2

It's all about that inner game stuff about not giving a shit what the other person thinks about you. If you think you're fun, she's more likely to. If it feels fakey to you, don't use it, find the type of humor that works for you. I'm not the most good looking nor effimate guy so saying I need my beauty sleep is kinda funny. It also sets her up to tease her a bit later with the stuff about the ambien. Also, like I said at the top of the post, this was an amalgam of several pickups I've done rece…
/r/seduction21/09/10 11:33 PM
1

Thanks!
/r/seduction21/09/10 11:31 PM
1

The more extreme the insult, the more extremely over the top your facial expressions and intonations have to be. If you try it, you'll probably find yourself overcompensating, then just tone it down a little until you get it right. This is one aspect of calibration.
/r/seduction21/09/10 11:30 PM
1

I've been reading, watching, and listening to material for two years. I've been actively trying to improve daily for that entire time. . .and I still haven't bagged a 10 yet. I still have terrible anxiety in bars and clubs. But I have success. I've found my niche, I am constantly trying new things and keeping the ones that I get the most success with. Keep it up, Hoss, you'll get there.
/r/seduction21/09/10 11:28 PM
2

I really like it and feel like it's about as accurate as fitting anyone into any broad generality can be. I view it as sorta like reverse cold reading--broad generalities turn into narrow generalities turn into specifics. Of course each girl is different, but only to an extent. For any given area of personality, there are only so many differences per each set. There is only more concrete thinking and less concrete thinking. There is only more flirty and less flirty. Etc.
/r/seduction21/09/10 11:24 PM
1

Got it posted
/r/seduction20/09/10 02:02 PM
0

Done!
/r/seduction20/09/10 01:54 PM
14

(Anatomy of a Day Game Pickup--Cont'd from above) We keep up the banter via text for a day or so. Then I call. I keep my voice calm and slow. We talk about the mushrooms she recommended. I DHV a trip to Boston where I had some amazing food. I mention a relationship problem a friend of mine is having because he is shy, and I tell her how shy I really am. She doesn't believe me, but I tell her how I make myself talk to everyone I can because of it. Soon we're talking about relationships (idealists…
/r/seduction20/09/10 01:52 PM
4

Youtube "how to club dance" and look for an Asian guy named "Chi." Dancing IOIs are the same as any other, although some of them may tend to be more intentional and therefore "fake." Dancing is fun and girls will let you get away with crazy stuff if you're smooth, and you might think, "wow, I've gotten really far with this one. . ." till she's off the dance floor, then it's game over. So accept the fake IOIs and dance with her and kino and make out on the dance floor, but look for the real IOIs …
/r/seduction20/09/10 11:50 AM
1

Bah! Sometimes the other team likes the feel of a real bat made out of real wood in their batting cage, know what I mean? Get in there and game them. And if you don't get laid, so what? It's always good to have lesbian friends--they throw pretty good parties and their straight friends tend to be pretty liberal and kinda kinky.
/r/seduction20/09/10 11:45 AM
2

...plenty of attention. . .Not sure how to deal with it, either way. Be confident. She's there with you. You are more than enough for her. Other guys hit on her just to remind you how awesome you are for bagging such a hottie. When other girls hit on you, be friendly and polite, and don't move it forward. She'll notice when it happens and how you handle it. You won't have to do anything to get her to notice, and she'll be a little insecure about it, and she'll appreciate how you handle it.
/r/seduction20/09/10 11:42 AM
3

Right on. Ever get up to Louisville?
/r/seduction20/09/10 05:10 AM
10

The Good Stuff Pre-Game External: In older pickup material they talk about having an "avatar"--a personality you adopt in public who is your "pickup face." It's really best just to accentuate those parts of your personality that are strongest. I'm smart, outdoorsy, adventurous, cosmopolitan, and somewhat attracted to mysticism. If you wanted to say I had an avatar that I portray, it'd be sort of an "urban shaman." I jog 2 or 3 times a week, I'm up to 3 miles. Twice a week I do Tabata Method push…
/r/seduction20/09/10 04:25 AM
3

Yeah, that was meant tongue-in-cheek, but also just kind of a hyperbolic example of what can happen when you dance by yourself. Although, to be fair, the first few guys were obviously doggin' him.
/r/seduction20/09/10 03:34 AM
2

you always have room for desert". I hope you mean "dessert."
/r/seduction20/09/10 02:51 AM
1

I'm with Enthusizer on what to do if she turns out to be a romantic prospect. There's something else I want to bring your attention to, and that is this: unless you're pretty advanced it may be kind of challenging to have her as both a sex partner and a pivot. Since she's already planning to stay in your bed, I'm getting the sense that she's made up her mind to sleep with you--she may have agreed to pivot just as a way to work back into your life. Beware, I see jealousy issues coming up. If I we…
/r/seduction20/09/10 02:38 AM
6

The most important question is: do you feel like it is? If so, then she'll pick up on that. If not, then you've got a shot. Just remember, being busy is a good thing so you can feel positive about forgetting about her--just let her know you're sincere about wanting to make it up to her.
/r/seduction20/09/10 02:32 AM
1

Confidence itself is a DHV. Dancing itself is a DHV. They are physical demonstrations, not verbal, which is what I assume you may be more familiar with.
/r/seduction20/09/10 02:30 AM
3

Fake it till you make it. Be like this guy, but learn to dance better Actually don't, but the confidence to dance is a good DHV.
/r/seduction20/09/10 12:14 AM
1

So did you email her back??????????
/r/seduction19/09/10 10:54 PM
6

Don't ask, just dance in close proximity, then when you get an IOI or two, smoothly guide her into dancing with you. And start microescalating kino. Then when you want to talk, make the "lean closer, I'm about to talk" gesture, cup the back of her ear and push down that little flap in front of her ear hole and then talk into her ear. She'll be able to hear you if you speak loudly and clearly, without yelling, and it'll sound normal and conversational to her. Be sure you keep your posture upright…
/r/seduction19/09/10 10:48 PM
1

Update: Yesterday I realized I was putting too much into gaming her and it was starting to fall flat, so I backed off a little bit. Wow. It perked right back up! She's initiating more conversations and kino with me now--I'd say who initiates is becoming equal between her and I. And today, she asked for my number.
/r/seduction18/09/10 10:56 PM
1

Troof.
/r/seduction18/09/10 10:49 PM
1

Dude you said it yourself: nobody else kisses her but everyone else touches her. 1.) Ignore her and don't touch her. 2.) Engage her when you get IOIs and don't touch her. 3.) Isolate her, then slowly and with confidence, get up in her space while holding her gaze and don't touch her (I mean it! This will drive her fucking wild and she'll be triangle gazing like mad!). Then back off and don't touch her! Then repeat! You want to pump up the tension here. Go to step 4 before you think you're done t…
/r/seduction18/09/10 10:47 PM
1

Dude, everybody out there is all full of anxiety and self-concern. She's more worried about what her hair looks like than she is what yours looks like. You've got the confidence. Just remember what it feels like, and hold that feeling inside you while you repeat the frame affirmation from my last comment. Repeat it out loud like you really are that confident man, three times at the beginning of your day. Also this one: (say this like you're a little disaffected and bored with it all) "Why do all…
/r/seduction18/09/10 10:37 PM
3

I would have said "Listen to me balls! You guys stop shrinkin' 'cause that shit ain't gettin' any of us laid! You keep that shit up and I'm gettin' some balls made of steel and you guys are gonna get sacked!" Then I'd fuckin' lead her through the crowd like I was King Steve fucking McQueen.
/r/seduction18/09/10 10:29 PM
2

Only until time gives its perspective to OP.
/r/seduction18/09/10 10:24 PM
1

Troof.
/r/seduction18/09/10 10:23 PM
1

Just do what I did and after you graduate, move into an apartment near a university that has girls who are not like that. Also, for your remaining time, check out Pandora's Box by Vin DiCarlo. It'll give you some ideas how to change your strategy. These girls are what he calls "deniers." Check out his strategy for that, then start knockin' 'em down one by one.
/r/seduction18/09/10 10:05 PM
2

Your parents credit card, internet access, some vaseline and a towel. You should have no problem getting yourself horny.
/r/seduction18/09/10 10:01 PM
4

Funny, today I was gaming a customer at the store I work at--classy, I know--but she was into it. I'd approached as per my job but with good frame and body language, and she was all touching her hair, mirroring me, then she stepped in closer, and I was all "yeaaah baby"--in my head. Then she asked for a product we sell for HPV and I think I may have literally said "yoinks!" out loud before I went into asexual mode.
/r/seduction18/09/10 09:59 PM
1

Never had horse. Is it gamey or rich?
/r/seduction18/09/10 09:55 PM
6

Sweet Jesus if you don't pursue her I will personally come through teh interwebs and choke you with my bear-hands. Then I'll take her for myself because she is exactly my type. The reason you're getting such attention from her isn't because she's crazy, and she may or may not be (she's fucking hot, so yeah, probably), the reason is that SHE LIKES YOU. Give a girl a chance. Quit talking yourself out of it and start rebuilding your frame. Remember the best frame to have is something like this: She…
/r/seduction18/09/10 12:25 PM
1

They provide drinks and such, and everyone gets a discount that they wouldn't otherwise get, also I think it'd be after hours, so kinda like a private shopping experience. And I would get a bigger discount than they would since I have the "coupon" or whatever you call it--that's supposed to be my incentive I guess. I thought it was pretty useless too until I realized that girls like clothes, they like clothes on sale, a lot of them like drinks, and it was a reason to get 10 girls together and po…
/r/seduction18/09/10 12:09 PM
1

That seems like an awesome job! Going to go learn how to lifecast. . .
/r/seduction18/09/10 05:24 AM
2

Tryin' to feed you steak and you just want McDonald's.
/r/seduction18/09/10 03:36 AM
10

OP, She said she "didn't want to get involved with anyone." She didn't say anything about not wanting to bang a dude who just blew her away with his confidence. RSVP that dame.
/r/seduction18/09/10 03:32 AM
3

The connection is solid. Yesterday she initiated a hug goodbye at the end of our shift. We get a lot of time "alone," though not in private. In a more peopled area you'd probably see a girl mirror a little less because of more distractions. Right now I'm counting my blessings that I pretty much have this awesome "lab" to test things out in.
/r/seduction17/09/10 05:16 PM
5

I've noticed with this girl I'm gaming now that by being assertive with my physical presence she actually does all the rapport building to me. I.E. When I talk to her, I talk slowly and dominantly, and casually stroll into her space until I'm right up in her face, then I turn away and go stand somewhere else. She'll come right up next to me and stand with the same (actually mirrored) posture. Or I'll sit down and take a drink, and she'll sit down and take a drink. We work together so if I stand …
/r/seduction17/09/10 01:57 PM
3

Host a party.
/r/seduction17/09/10 01:36 PM
4

You and I know that--hell, I'll advocate 1st night lays until I'm blue in the face--but what it seems like some folks are missing is that: 1.) When you get better at conversation you get better at all aspects of your social life--friends, family, coworkers, lovers, girlfriends, and wives all appreciate you more. 2.) Girls are real people--they are mult-dimensional and dynamic (and interesting). If sex is always the first way you connect with everybody then you are a one-dimensional character and…
/r/seduction17/09/10 01:30 PM
4

Seconded. I want to read it, those who don't can skip it.
/r/seduction17/09/10 03:44 AM
1

I agree totally. I'm just sayin' talking to a girl as part of the pickup may work better depending on several variables: what you're looking for, what she's looking for, how much time she's got. . .etc.
/r/seduction17/09/10 01:38 AM
4

So what you're saying is. . .you don't do anything to optimize your compatibility? Personally, I'm pro-girls being educated on PUA, I just wish I could pick the educators.
/r/seduction17/09/10 12:19 AM
4

I think this is in the top 5 of advice I've seen posted on Seddit. slow clap
/r/seduction16/09/10 11:02 PM
2

Great job. The one thing I would suggest is save the complements on her beauty until after sex; some girls can get it in their heads that we're just after them for their bodies (and probably for good reason) and if you tell them that you like their body before you sex them up, they may think that you're just using them for sex and that you don't actually respect them. Of course, it's up to them to earn our respect (and sex), and many quality girls don't want to sleep with a guy who would sleep w…
/r/seduction16/09/10 10:56 PM
3

Some good points. Two reasons to talk: 1. ) to get laid more than once by a girl you like. 2.) to have the foundation for a relationship in case the girl is actually pretty cool in addition to being a good lay. Bonus reason: some guys just like to talk.
/r/seduction16/09/10 10:50 PM
1

Working on it. I've been thinking about this for a bit. There' so much, and it's so multifaceted, and yet so simple I am at a loss of where to start, but I've definitely begun thinking about this in detail. I'll have something up soon.
/r/seduction16/09/10 10:35 PM
10

Doesn't matter. The girls are wearing my dick out in a tiny ass little apartment I can barely afford because of my low status retail job. It's 90% about frame, baby, and frame don't cost a thing. Bring a few home, you'll get over it. P.S. your frame is: I am the beneficent alpha in my world. I love life and it is up to me to make sure the people in my world share that joy. This isn't some kooky b.s. new age hippy junk, this is the way you need to be thinking to be attractive, rather than wonderi…
/r/seduction16/09/10 06:30 AM
2

Okay so that last quarter of your post is on target--the bit about failing and moving down the line and the other girls clamming up. On the other hand, there's also the possibility that you get a secret reputation as a stud and they'll all fuck you. Most likely though is that you'll fail with one or two girls and settle for option 2 or 3. Your best bet is to study up, build your frame up and don't give a shit. Girls like guys who don't give a shit.
/r/seduction16/09/10 06:19 AM
1

Low.
/r/seduction16/09/10 01:50 AM
1

Thanks, Enthusizer!
/r/seduction16/09/10 01:50 AM
1

I like that isolation, it's simple.
/r/seduction16/09/10 12:37 AM
2

PUA: "Okay, but only if you hold my bag too." Girl: "But you aren't holding a ba--OOOH."
/r/seduction16/09/10 12:05 AM
2

You win.
/r/seduction16/09/10 12:00 AM
3

Boom. There it is.
/r/seduction15/09/10 11:59 PM
2

Yup.
/r/seduction15/09/10 11:47 AM
1

The Speed Seduction stuff was ebook and audio, I bought hard copies of the Game and Rules of the Game (Style Life) and Mystery Method, and I bought digital copies of Unbreakable and Stealth Seduction (online videos).
/r/seduction15/09/10 11:46 AM
1

Good job, son. The best advice I have to give you right now is: Frame check. Are you providing value to the people in your life, or taking value? Getting that one woman at your whim sounds very egotistical. Are you the dude that is gonna bag her because he's got what it takes? Or are you the dude that needs to bag her to feel good about himself? You know how women feel about needy guys. Keep working on your game, I highly recommend getting the Speed Seduction, Stylelife and M3 shit down before m…
/r/seduction15/09/10 05:59 AM
1

Try Magic Bullets by Love Systems to get an understanding of how to build DHV stories. Check out Ross Jeffries' stuff on NLP (sigh yes, the creepy stuff) to figure out how to weave sexual innuendo into your conversational subtext, how to fractionate to send her into a deeper state of excitement, and how to build a conversation around it all. Lastly forget the above and learn Gambler's Stealth Seduction techniques and have a normal boring interview style conversation with her while you rub her an…
/r/seduction15/09/10 05:53 AM
2

Awesome, thank you MrPoon. Come to think of it, I think "Thank you, Mr. Poon" would make a great tee shirt.
/r/seduction15/09/10 05:39 AM
2

I like the sarcasm. Do you do stand up too?
/r/seduction15/09/10 05:16 AM
4

Totally worth it. I went from having 12 lays at the age of thirty to having just had my 33rd at the age of 32. I'll admit some of them I kinda wish I'd been more picky about, but they count and they all taught me something and they all built my confidence up. Since the breakup of my latest exclusive LTR, I'm averaging one new unique lay per every 9 days with an ongoing sex-only relationship with one of the hottest women I've ever fucked--close to my goal of one new unique lay every 7 days with a…
/r/seduction15/09/10 05:13 AM
5

"Hi, I'm MTBnSNOW. . ." "Your friend is so hot. . ." "I know, I'm totally gay for him. You're kinda cute though, you might be able to turn me straight if you were just a little more flat-chested. . . " Edit: open, disqualify yourself while transitioning and teasing, return sexual focus to you. Edit #2: Delivery must be playful, cocky-funny, whatever you want to call it.
/r/seduction15/09/10 04:56 AM
2

Haven't seen you in a while, prescott. We missed the humor :)
/r/seduction15/09/10 04:55 AM
9

I won't be using it--it just isn't smooth. There is neither the intensity of direct game nor the smoothness of having a pretext that is fun and provocative--only the anxiety of an AFC rushing around to put out fires or to keep his carpets piss free. How many girls are going to want to get nailed by a guy who can't even get it together to turn his stove off? Besides, nothing's a hundred percent, you aren't going to get home to stop the time bomb every time--then what are you going to do? Make out…
/r/seduction15/09/10 04:53 AM
1

You kinda hit that early plateau a lot of people go through when learning any skill, and often naturals give up at this point. It is to be expected to actually get worse before you get better, I've seen it commented on time and again and experienced this myself. When you receive new information it takes a while to process it and acclimate to it becoming a part of you, i.e. it will be a moment before you adjust to using it unconsciously. This is true for people who are talented in any field, whet…
/r/seduction15/09/10 04:47 AM
3

try to contact her again but don't do it by waiting outside her house with a bunch of roses and a hard-on. This doesn't work?
/r/seduction15/09/10 03:59 AM
8

This does nothing to build your core confidence.
/r/seduction15/09/10 03:58 AM
1

I highly recommend David DeAngelo as sort of a basic instructional on manly body language, and then Gambler for how to actually apply it to a conversation. I'm a little bored with my job so I've started playing with fire. We had a new girl start today, an HB8 or HB9, and everything I was doing was pure Stealth Attraction from Gambler. And it. was. freakin'. colossal.
/r/seduction15/09/10 03:53 AM
1

Don't listen to him irgs. It's not what you say, but how you say it. You can make a whole conversation out of that stuff, and if your body language is on point (a la David DeAngelo or Gambler) it really doesn't matter what is said when you're pulling her panties off underneath her dress in a crowded room. oinkdoink is using more of a Ross Jeffries style of conversation with the double entrendre, which is fine too, just different. You do your thing man, and calibrate where needed. edit: to clarif…
/r/seduction14/09/10 11:46 PM
1

Frame control. Repeat this to yourself, think about it, keep repeating it, and basically just meditate on it. "It's just talking."
/r/seduction14/09/10 11:41 PM
5

Start with Neil Strauss' Rules of the Game and Mystery's Mystery Method. Also, look over there-------------------------------------------------------->
/r/seduction14/09/10 12:06 PM
6

Don't do it. Girls will respect you more if you stick to your guns. Just drive them home, get their number and check up on them. Hang out with them when they sober up.
/r/seduction14/09/10 12:05 PM
0

I don't know about you but I like getting laid the rest of the year too.
/r/seduction14/09/10 12:02 PM
3

Suppose the girl you're interested in has a few words that pop up a few times in her profile. They are "really", "priceless," and "passionate." She also says things like "You can see. . .," "Take a look at. . ." and she describes things in vivid colors. Those three words that keep popping up are her power words, and the modality she uses to process information is visual. So for someone like that I would make the subject line say something like "Really, a cinema of priceless passionate pictures."…
/r/seduction14/09/10 12:00 PM
3

Forget trying the threesome again with your gf and the hb8. I really suspect it may take a while for your gf to come around to feeling comfortable with it, and pushing it will just delay that comfort. Have a sit down with your wing. You two need to hash out exactly what's expected of each other when you make promises to help move things in one direction or the other. Be sure to cover single hook ups and group hook ups, and what to do when HB shows interest in the "wrong" one of you. You share so…
/r/seduction14/09/10 04:10 AM
3

Man, I'm only 5'9" and 175, skinny arms and legs and a round belly. I look like a fuckin' pumpkin man, but I get the same reactions just because I started walking with my shoulders down and back, head up, knuckles forward, relaxed, eyes like I'm looking just above somebody elses', and a half smile. Dudes get out of my way, girls dig me. To see an improvement, it really doesn't matter what you look like (of course, getting in shape will only amplify it) as much as how you carry yourself. tl;dr--i…
/r/seduction14/09/10 03:59 AM
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<I didn't address posture. . . We're talking about women right--and therefore their looks and posture is a part of that, and key for reading body language. Who's ever seen someone with terrible posture and an extremely high sense of self worth? I think you're confusing it with arrogance.
/r/seduction14/09/10 03:49 AM
0

I disagree. Posture is very important, and a girl with posture that says she has bad self-esteem is far less attractive than a girl with posture that says she has good self-esteem.
/r/seduction14/09/10 03:33 AM
4

Aren't there some hidden stairwells or library stacks? What about duh-duh-dorm rooms? You are an engineer. You create solutions. You have two objects you want hidden from view. How can you solve that? :P
/r/seduction14/09/10 03:30 AM
1

Man, I get so worn out with writing long-assed [FRs]. I'd be happy to clarify anything you have a question on.
/r/seduction14/09/10 01:06 AM
1

Yeah. Just talked to some of my exes today. I could definitely be doing better in this regard. Man oh man I feel rotten about that.
/r/seduction14/09/10 12:31 AM
4

Get them off campus to a coffee shop where normal girls are so they get a subtle reminder that they aren't the only girls in this universe. Everything else should be just standard college pick up, join things, do things, talk to people, kino, isolate, wear protection.
/r/seduction14/09/10 12:28 AM
2

I think you'll find it full of dudes. Try OkCupid, and check out their blog on how to make your profile more attractive.
/r/seduction14/09/10 12:22 AM
3

The most valuable thing you can have is a friend. Much more important than a piece of ass.
/r/seduction14/09/10 12:20 AM
3

Yup.
/r/seduction14/09/10 12:19 AM
2

Look up books on polyamory. She doesn't have to be exclusive to you guys.
/r/seduction14/09/10 12:18 AM
2

The whole neg thing sigh. 6s typically have lower self-esteem, so it's easy for a pua to overshoot the social value thing and a comment that he makes that would be perceived as unimportant or even as a tease by a 10 might be taken as an insult or arrogance by the 6. Also, according to those who are more successful than I, it is important to work the room more before targeting the 10, so that you may build up more social proof.
/r/seduction14/09/10 12:15 AM
2

I thought it was something like the Mohs Hardness Scale. Does she get my dick hard enough to cut glass--if yes, I will talk to her. Maybe it's only hard enough to cut jello--I think I'll pass, thank you.
/r/seduction14/09/10 12:08 AM
1

On the other hand, to answer OP: there might be as many 8s as 3s in the general population, but we don't want to approach the 3s. No shit. Why the hell would we post about 3s and 5s. I nailed a string of fat girls in the last couple weeks--I ain't tellin' no one abou--oh, wait. Anyway, 8.5 is the highest I've been with lately and that was this weekend. 9s and 10s. I have no idea who OP is referring to.
/r/seduction14/09/10 12:06 AM
1

LoL. It's all a trick to get you to buy our t-shirt.
/r/seduction14/09/10 12:01 AM
7

Minny, I'm not going to say she likes you because I don't want you get nervous and fuck up. What I am going to say is, son, you've got this. Knock the bottom out.
/r/seduction13/09/10 03:27 PM
12

I agree with RedErin, GhostSonata and philosraptor on this one. This is the realm of advanced game. This is Bruce Lee type shit--to play this game you must play the game of no-game. Take what you need from all schools of the game, discard the rest. Use the game to find your authentic self. This game is about self-acutalization--the highest form of game you can have, because once there, you have matured enough to leave the game behind. This is because that is where she is playing the game. It sou…
/r/seduction13/09/10 03:20 PM
1

Be careful with St. John's if you are not straight up depressed. I prefer Holy Basil which acts directly on the stress hormone cortisol. That shit saved my life.
/r/seduction13/09/10 02:53 PM
3

Maybe if you'd offered her a piece she would have loved it. Also, good attempt, next time maintain your frame and go with it, if you fuck up, fuck up like an alpha man and own it. A self-deprecating alpha is still way sexier to a lady than an AFC.
/r/seduction12/09/10 11:17 PM
7

Sounds like you might be getting in too deep. You need a buddy there, someone who knows what they're doing, who can get in there and check these girls out for you. Somebody to make this a sure thing for you. I'd be happy to come out and show you what's what. I'll seduce the girls first, then once I've bonked them a couple times and I've decided which ones are the best in bed I'll steer you to them and show you how to do it yourself, step-by-step. It's really the best way to get you in there fast…
/r/seduction12/09/10 11:14 PM
1

No really. I call it Kentucky Jelly. lol
/r/seduction11/09/10 08:09 AM
1

I suggested Pandora's Box to ThrowawayPUA and he's been using it, so you've definitely seen it from both of us. Just about everyone has been using his kino escalation ladder.
/r/seduction11/09/10 08:07 AM
0

I started thinking about this today. Initially I blew it off as cute model gets lucky because he's cute. Then I realized, I've never talked to anyone who did the dual induction. I think it'd be of great value to everyone here if you described how you did it (I've read about it in the Game and even got a newsletter on it from one website or another) especially what it was you said the whole time. Here's why. . . While I can imagine every bit of the DIM going down as described, it's only up to a p…
/r/seduction11/09/10 05:17 AM
1

I know. It makes me laugh every time.
/r/seduction11/09/10 05:12 AM
4

Assume attraction assume attraction assume attraction!!!! Brother you got mad skills! If she's acting aloof it's just because she's either shy or she's prescreened you and is testing you to see if you're really the guy she thinks you are! Of course you're that guy! That icy exterior is nothing compared to the warmth of your smile! Prepare to catch that bitch when she swoons, man! She's yours!
/r/seduction11/09/10 04:58 AM
4

I "pumped my area" just this morning. . .
/r/seduction11/09/10 04:51 AM
8

Maca, weights, shower, nice clothes, music up and singing in the car, clap my hands yell wooo, talk to everyone with the intention of making friends and making sure that they are having a good time. I check my head and my heart and make sure that I am free of desire for approval, that I am full of confidence and joy, and that I really want to make sure everyone around me is safe, having fun, and feeling good. I check my frame and make sure I know that everyone I meet is attracted to me and if th…
/r/seduction11/09/10 04:50 AM
1

Welcome to Seddit!
/r/seduction11/09/10 04:46 AM
1

Why did anyone downvote this? Shakes head.
/r/seduction11/09/10 04:44 AM
1

Check this old post (especially my comments, lol). I'd add to that check DiCarlo's Pandora's Box to figure out what "type" your girl is so you can get her devoted to you, but also so you can nourish her heart the way she needs it.
/r/seduction11/09/10 04:42 AM
2

Also, sometimes they really want to help, but don't believe in PUA or they think they already know everything about it and go about things back-assed-halfwardly.
/r/seduction11/09/10 04:35 AM
1

Yes! Where the hell have you guys been? WTF?
/r/seduction11/09/10 04:23 AM
1

Hey Hakonslie, I really admire the way you hung in there and took all our criticism, and yet have had an open-enough mind to adapt your vlog name to the situation. Play around with the names a little bit more, I have the feeling that you'll wake up in the morning with the perfect one in mind!
/r/seduction11/09/10 04:19 AM
1

If you appear too high value it will close her off to you. You should appear higher value, but only a little. If it's too much you can come off as intimidating or arrogant. Somehow you conveyed to her that you thought she was an easy target. Or she's busy.
/r/seduction10/09/10 03:34 PM
1

I think you're trying too hard to redefine metrosexuality as something it's not. That thing is pick up. Anyway good luck with you blog, I think it's a great and interesting idea, it's just the title that's a bit off.
/r/seduction10/09/10 03:32 PM
2

Check out Gambler's Stealth Seduction. It's amazing what you can do with it. I've been watching the videos for 3 days now, and I'm just blown away by what I'm getting away with already. An example would be your awful seating order: Control the conversation, ignore the HB8 and talk to the UB4 over her. Meanwhile, your kinoing the shit out of HB8--you know, hand on her back as you lean past to talk to UB4, resting your leg against hers, resting your hand against hers, as long as she doesn't pull a…
/r/seduction10/09/10 02:41 PM
3

Pick up is about so much more than how you condition your hair and moisturize your skin. Its about more than your clothes and lifestyle. Pick up is about becoming your authentic self, becoming congruent with it, and then presenting it to the world. Metrosexuality may work for you, but not me. And not a lot of other guys on here. There are good points to metrosexuality--you will be good looking, you will be less intimidating to girls. . .I can't think of any others right now. But it just wouldn't…
/r/seduction10/09/10 02:33 PM
1

Uhhh. . .no.
/r/seduction10/09/10 02:29 PM
1

Let them talk to the ugly girls while you wander off to find an HB 9 or 10.
/r/seduction10/09/10 02:26 PM
9

Way too go with. . .being a model. . .and not creepy. . .in a rich neighborhood. . .in a faraway land. . . Seriously though, good job--but for everyone else who wants to learn something, I hope it's more challenging next time.
/r/seduction09/09/10 10:33 PM
1

See anonym123. Just because you slept with the girl doesn't mean we're gonna let you get all those warm and fuzzy jitters inside. Dammit, you gotta get back out there and seduce her all over again! You still gotta be aloof, man, you still gotta make her want you. Letting her know you want her isn't going to do it. You gotta be that cold motherfucker she went down with.
/r/seduction09/09/10 08:21 PM
2

This.
/r/seduction09/09/10 08:19 PM
15

Number 1 has been to approach. Everything else is just calibration.
/r/seduction09/09/10 03:36 AM
1

Yeah. It was her idea. I didn't handle the frame so well that time. On the bright side, I have at least one, maybe two other dates that day (tomorrow) and I'll set them all up to see me again this weekend.
/r/seduction09/09/10 03:31 AM
1

Bingo bango. Good job!
/r/seduction08/09/10 11:37 PM
4

Man, have you had the "Listen ______, I know what I want, and I want you around. You are simply an amazing woman and you make me incredibly happy, and I know I make you feel just as good. I'm not able to commit to an exclusive relationship right now. If it were in the cards. . .there's a good chance it'd be you. I don't want to lead you on because your happiness means a lot to me, I like having you in my life, but not if you don't want to." conversation? She might stick around.
/r/seduction08/09/10 11:55 AM
1

Like.
/r/seduction08/09/10 05:21 AM
4

No, girls are not small-minded. They're reserved, shy, and awkward just like you were before you started PUA. It's up to you to warm them up and build their confidence until they are comfortable enough to share how they want to be tied up with you. Consider it an extension of ASD.
/r/seduction08/09/10 05:19 AM
2

Yes. Both. Now.
/r/seduction08/09/10 05:16 AM
1

Ditto here.
/r/seduction08/09/10 05:03 AM
1

True.
/r/seduction06/09/10 06:21 PM
1

I'm just getting my tonsilectomy (24 years ago) to loosen up (small circle circulation). Adhesions are a bitch.
/r/seduction06/09/10 06:20 PM
1

I don't like hurting people, but I do love the martial arts. There are times when I have laughed when I've hurt someone, but that doesn't happen so much anymore, and those times I can honestly say the laughter came from the nervous mix of regretting the pain I caused and delight in seeing the technique work. The Shaolin monks were Buddhists, in fact, they belonged to Chan Buddhism which was the Chinese forbear to the better known Japanese Zen Buddhism. Both were non-violent. How can a Chinese mo…
/r/seduction06/09/10 06:15 PM
1

Maybe inept but not repulsive. Inept can be changed.
/r/seduction06/09/10 05:40 PM
3

David DeAngelo did a video on confidence and body language, and part of it was the 'human mating dance.' When you combine that with DiCarlo's escalation ladder it's very powerful. Especially if you can do it with a girl who's dancing, it makes it totally smooth that way. There's only two reasons to touch a girl. To protect/guide her or because you like her, so don't worry too much about coming up with a reason.
/r/seduction06/09/10 05:09 PM
1

Right. I wasn't clear about that. What I meant was that by ignoring her you create a little space (push) for her to fill in (by doing something to get your attention back) which you then reward with approval/kino, whatever (pull).
/r/seduction06/09/10 02:25 AM
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Since none of the other answers are actually based on pick up theory, I'm going to go the other route and say ignore her until she shows interest again, then reward her with your attention. This is an example of push/pull. In the mean time, make sure she sees you talking to other girls, and make sure you're confident and funny when you do--jealousy plotline.
/r/seduction04/09/10 01:38 PM
4

Be sure to do this with the guys too so she sees she's not being treated different. They catch on to that shit.
/r/seduction04/09/10 02:38 AM
1

Nah man, I just made words, you actually did it ;) Good job!
/r/seduction02/09/10 01:29 PM
1

I agree with okcspecialist that it sounds like you rushed it a bit. You have to raise comfort along with arousal. Your arousal left comfort in the dust so her ASD shields went up. She just wants to be reassured that you're not using her for sex, and that if you are, that you're cool about it and aren't going to brag or be annoying. Go ahead and call her, but play a little harder to get when you see her, and also try and get to know her. She'll warm up more, and be prepared to have to wait to ban…
/r/seduction02/09/10 07:34 AM
3

A lot of fun can be had with a picnic basket, wine, cheese, bread, fruit, chocolate, a camera, a blanket, condoms, a bag of silly bands, a coloring book and crayons, and other fun, light things like that. Also a radio.
/r/seduction02/09/10 07:29 AM
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Who still talks on the phone? Facebook, OkC, Email, Messenger, and texting all do the job. Texting is the only one you need a number for, and usually it's the last message I get from them as they are on their way over, i.e. "I'm on my way, here's my #, send me yours so I can text you when i get near."
/r/seduction02/09/10 07:18 AM
1

Who on Seddit doesn't want to bed early?
/r/seduction02/09/10 07:08 AM
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Why . . . What. . . I don't get this. Shit tests are usually in the beginning of an interaction, except with girls who view themselves as really really high social value, almost always 21-26 y.o.s, not cougars. Anyway, chillax. You already got a great bj and you banged her. She has accepted you as her sexual provider, this isn't really a shit test and isn't really a big deal. It's 7 minutes. 14 round trip. For pretty much guaranteed sex. The bigger issue here, if you care about being alpha and h…
/r/seduction02/09/10 07:06 AM
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Look to the right of this page---------------------------------------> See where it says: New to this subreddit? Click on the blue link following that. There are plenty of tips there. Without a more specific problem or question we can't help you. Also it's very frustrating to toss you silver bullets when you haven't so much as read how to pull the trigger.
/r/seduction01/09/10 10:33 PM
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"Who are you here with?" If she's with him, she'll let you know. If she says she's alone or with friends, playfully say "So you came out to get away from the boyfriend?" She'll either tell you she has one (either laughingly "Lol, Yeah I left him with all the dishes, lol" or exasperatedly, it doesn't really matter though) or she'll say she doesn't have one. After this steer the convo away from him. You don't want her thinking about him.
/r/seduction01/09/10 08:45 PM
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Watch movies featuring women who act coy. Model their body language. Learn to flirt and tease. Show some skin, but not too much. Some basics on body language: Touch the guy. Hug him, touch his hands, touch his arms, his back. As it gets more intimate you can hold his hands, touch his chest, his hair etc. But you have to take away your touch too so he has time to realize how much he desires it. Smile, smile often, and smile like you mean it. Walk away and look over your shoulder out of the corner…
/r/seduction01/09/10 08:01 PM
1

May I suggest adding some intrigue to that: something like "Too bad you're so cute because you're not my type." She'll feel like she made it through the tryouts for American Idol, but didn't make it on tv. Suddenly she'll really want to be on tv. Know what I mean?
/r/seduction01/09/10 07:44 PM
1

This isn't about arguing. It's about information gathering. You see, in the girls mind there are two forces struggling for dominance--the horny slut that she really truly is, and the prim model of social propriety. One represents what she wants to do, and the other represents social conditioning. By asking logistical questions, "Who did you come here with. . .How do you know each other. . .What are you doing later. . .?" you defeat her social conditioning. How does it defeat the conditioning? Sh…
/r/seduction01/09/10 07:36 PM
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The shit test thing is about power and what you're missing in your understanding is that the hb9s and 10s will relentlessly shit test you, and if you fuck up she'll replace you. It's not just about who gets to stay in her life, it's also about what "slot" she puts you in. Is it the therapist slot, friend slot, benefactor slot, minion slot, or her pussy? Girls have lots of needs, and girls of a certain personality are always trying to figure out what you can do for them. You may score different r…
/r/seduction01/09/10 07:14 PM
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Oneitis or pride, neither one is healthy. Get over it. The only good advice I've seen for re-seducing someone is to basically reinvent yourself, and you're asking how to do it without going through that process. Also, she doesn't know all your "tricks" if you started learning about PUA after you split. She just knows your material from before that.
/r/seduction01/09/10 06:58 PM
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Interesting. I never thought about "how" I date. I guess mostly I've viewed PUA as intentional dating, but it goes both ways. Sometimes, I just want sex. Sometimes I really like someone so I want to date them. Sometimes it takes a couple dates to get the sex anyway (never more than 3).
/r/seduction01/09/10 06:54 PM
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You explained that well.
/r/seduction01/09/10 01:00 AM
3

I knew a girl before she became a dancer, then went to see her at work figuring I'd use her as a pivot or social proof or something. Failed miserably, haven't heard from her since. That was a while ago. I haven't really tried it since, been working on day game a whole lot.
/r/seduction01/09/10 12:55 AM
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Push for logistics: ask if she's tired, hungry, seen the movie etc. etc. Eliminate all possible reasons not to come over until she's left with "Why not?" I used this successfully twice recently: It's 4 a.m., we're both wide awake, what else are we going to do? Mix in watching the sunrise or "helping me watch the dvds because they're due back tomorrow. . ." gives a sense of reason and finally from Vin Di Carlo (I think): "But not if you don't want to. . ."
/r/seduction01/09/10 12:48 AM
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Ignore her for a day or two until you get the "Are you mad at me?" text or call, then respond with something like "Meet me at such and such a place. . ." but don't respond to the question. It's just bait for a trap--let it go and go out and have a good time with her. She'll 1) recognize how awesomely immovable your frame was and 2) appreciate that you aren't a petty vindictive bitch that wants to punish everyone setting you above most of the guys she meets. Is she fairly young? I'm betting she i…
/r/seduction01/09/10 12:45 AM
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I know everyone's down on NLP but I found Ross Jeffries' inner game stuff to be pretty invaluable. Also, it's a good mix with RSD's Blueprint. The former uses language to build positive inner dialogue, the latter uses experience to build positive association and feelings. Both are good.
/r/seduction31/08/10 04:36 AM
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Hahahahahahahahhahahah.
/r/seduction31/08/10 04:33 AM
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Derp.
/r/seduction31/08/10 04:32 AM
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Yeeeeaaaaah (holds up i.d. badge) I'm totally going to need some empirical first hand evidence (guy in crowd whispers: he means he wants to sleep with you) to tell you whether or not you suck in bed. It's totally for science and in your own best interest of course. Not to put too fine a point on it, but don't guys generally repeat with attractive boring girls more often than unattractive interesting girls? Anyway, why should we tell you when to hold back and when not to? It's your baby-maker you…
/r/seduction31/08/10 04:31 AM
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Hey little lady, I hear you like god. . .You'll be screamin' his name when you come home with me. . .That's right. I'm just here for the pussy. . .Body of Christ right here baby, that is, if ole J.C. could bench press twice his body weight. . .Mmm-hmm you a fine lookin' lady. . .I'd annoint you with some oil, that's right. . .and I'd slip my transept right in yo' buttress. . . you gonna think you died and gone to heaven. . .
/r/seduction30/08/10 07:58 PM
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Awesome. You're sick but I like it. You're totally right too. Those places are pussy factories, I just never thought of it. I know what I'm doing on my next day off. Anyone ever notice that the longer a woman works at a hospital the bigger her ass gets? Go for the rookies.
/r/seduction30/08/10 07:49 PM
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Right on!
/r/seduction30/08/10 07:46 PM
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Creep huh? Then what are you doing on a seduction forum? Edit: You nasty pervert. If you try to hide your intentions of fucking them by being "a nice guy who wants to get to know them" you'll be labeled "Creep" much quicker.
/r/seduction30/08/10 07:46 PM
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Yeeeaaaah but the guys who do play by the girls' rules are miserable, fat, sad sacks of impotence that have been married for like forty years. Sure they have the mortgage almost paid off, a couple grand kids, etc. but they're boring as fuck, and they haven't gotten it up in the last 20 years. I don't want to die old miserable and alone, but I don't want to die complacent either. They are sell outs. Also, the Matrix was a movie.
/r/seduction30/08/10 07:44 PM
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I'm not going to apologize for having to learn this.
/r/seduction30/08/10 06:30 PM
5

I live in the u.s. and I really believe the "rules" thing is a myth. Get a life, be a little busy and self-possessed and you'll have no problem appearing aloof--because you will be.
/r/seduction30/08/10 03:54 PM
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Lol something like that.
/r/seduction30/08/10 03:37 PM
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I just fucked up a good LTR, lessons learned: *Don't take her for granted. *Don't let her catch you on Seddit or reading any PUA material. Edit: . . .if you weren't up front about it in the beginning. *Be honest with her in the beginning about your interest in PUA. If she sticks around, she's cool. *A lot can be learned about women from an LTR. *Get Di Carlo's Pandora's Box, figure out what type she is, plan your strategy for keeping her interest alive accordingly. It's things like: does she res…
/r/seduction30/08/10 03:23 PM
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Greet her in Portuguese but switch to English for your comfort.
/r/seduction30/08/10 03:38 AM
1

Exercise.
/r/seduction30/08/10 03:12 AM
4

Worrying about it is what makes you submissive.
/r/seduction30/08/10 03:10 AM
5

Yes.
/r/seduction29/08/10 01:20 AM
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Man, I know it's hard, but let her go. For your own darn sake. Be ALPHA. Be unmoved by her.
/r/seduction28/08/10 10:26 PM
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Sadly, he's American, but he's a philosopher and a writer--so he's kinda in that Bohemian bent--who knows? Also, he is very busy. I've never been with an Asian chick. This could be fun. I know a little bitty bit about Japanese culture but I don't fetishize it. I think my familiarity coupled with my refreshing lack of "yellow fever" put me in the running.
/r/seduction28/08/10 10:02 PM
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Thanks, I appreciate that. You're right about me being afraid of the alternatives. I know what it's like to veg out on the couch. It's safe. I'm totally terrified of having the things I really want so I wuss out instead of pursuing them. This is what I have to change. That's why I forced myself out despite not really wanting to.
/r/seduction28/08/10 09:59 PM
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Born and raised in Japan, accent and everything. Yeeeaaaahhh. I bailed on the burlesque party. Trust me, I know I let you guys down. I just didn't have the confidence to make any approaches, my energy was subzero at that point. Despite wanting to curl up on the couch and ignore this ritual, I made myself get out there because I know every little bit helps. One of these days I'll be the guy who can post the [FR] about how he brought the whole troop of dancers home for an afterparty. Somebody punc…
/r/seduction28/08/10 12:53 PM
2

Ha!
/r/seduction28/08/10 03:00 AM
2

Well said.
/r/seduction27/08/10 02:56 PM
3

Please explain.
/r/seduction27/08/10 02:34 PM
2

Anticipointment? What the heck is that?
/r/seduction27/08/10 06:46 AM
1

Yes!
/r/seduction26/08/10 09:12 PM
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This! Also the intrigue is good. My last ex loved that she never knew what was coming next. She thought it was mysterious. Said it was one of the best things about dating me in the beginning. The truth is I just had no idea what to do so I'd pick a direction and drive until I thought of something in that end of town. The key was to smile with a twinkle in my eye to play it off when she asked.
/r/seduction26/08/10 09:08 PM
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Keep it up! And get a new username.
/r/seduction26/08/10 09:05 PM
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Hi. Done the Craigslist thing. Literally more than 99% of the time it's a complete waste of time. I'll admit I've used it as a crutch when my AA was too overwhelming and I still say it's not worth a damn. I've gotten two lays out of it that were significant. I'll admit I fucked a few fat and ugly girls through it also. All but one of the girls I met through CL were through posts I put up. NO MORE!!! Except for that one, and she was ugly too, every ad I've responded to has been for a bot that red…
/r/seduction26/08/10 08:55 PM
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Juggler handles this by being very aware of his environment. When he notices someone moving toward the set, he gets up and pulls out a seat for them and ushers them to it, he takes control of their frame before they even get in set then while that person is getting situated he turns to HB and asks how they know each other (this keeps AMOG from answering "Boyfriend" just to cockblock you). Nice Alpha.
/r/seduction26/08/10 04:28 PM
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It was working but he pulled out. So he hasn't advanced enough. You're both right.
/r/seduction26/08/10 04:24 PM
2

I think you should be going to the doctor instead of Reddit.
/r/seduction26/08/10 04:04 PM
1

Interesting. How many times have you done this?
/r/seduction26/08/10 04:01 PM
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Yes! He actually did everything I told him to, and that's exactly what was supposed to happen! What a controlling bitch. And post your videos on Youtube! So I can watch them with my hot girl friends and make fun of you losers who worship me. Man, I do not trust the "hot girl coach." It's just a big ego boost for her, and what does she know about going out and getting blown out 30 times in a row? Edit: Yea, the first quote is slightly out of context, but I think of it as somewhat a window into he…
/r/seduction26/08/10 03:58 PM
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Yeah, I should've. This date reminded me a lot about frame control and keeping to my own standards.
/r/seduction26/08/10 03:53 PM
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I love the look on Cyrano's face after he says "You're paying!"
/r/seduction26/08/10 03:51 PM
5

Kentucky
/r/seduction25/08/10 12:35 PM
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I've had some really good times from online dating. They just happened to be before I started doing field reports. I just broke up with a girl I'd been seeing exclusively since Feb. so I decided to be diligent about sarging, doing the online thing, posting FRs etc. and this was the first weekend. It'll get better. A really good example: last year I posted something on CL for anonymous sex and was rewarded with a mid-20s Italian MILF that was probably a stripper and built like J-LO but with bette…
/r/seduction25/08/10 12:22 PM
1

Agreed.
/r/seduction24/08/10 10:04 PM
1

For me, it's gotta be traveling. It's something I really can't afford to do, and the girls I'm into all seem to be well-traveled, and they go after guys who seem to be so also. On top of that, there's that whole elitist citizen-of-the-world air that you can put on which just adds that much more value. Thirdly, there are all the stories that travel affords you and DHV spikes that you can add to your story-telling. I really think it is the most valuable Lifestyle addition you can make.
/r/seduction24/08/10 10:03 PM
2

I forgot to mention delivery, but you nailed it--cocky-funny.
/r/seduction24/08/10 12:20 PM
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Very common cockblock move on drunkie's part. It sounds like Emma was digging you and drunkie spoiled it. Turn it around and make drunkie qualify herself: Do you always put people on the spot?--Then what do you get out of it?--Okay, good, that shows you really care about your friend--would you mind giving us a moment because i think she wants to tell me something. She'll want to tell you how smooth you are.
/r/seduction24/08/10 05:55 AM
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At this stage keep yourself occupied and think about other stuff. Thinking about it is for in-between girls. 1.) Take a dry erase marker and on your bathroom mirror write (so that it frames you) these words: "Presenting: the GOD of SEX!!!" On your hall mirror write "the GOD of COOL!!!" 2.) Watch A Streetcar Named Desire with Brando, any Sean Connery James Bond movie, any Steve McQueen movie, Cannonball Run with Burt Reynolds. Absorb it. Leave it on while you sleep. 3.) Workout. 4.) Abstain from …
/r/seduction24/08/10 05:40 AM
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TL;DR I got one facebook add since Friday and one bad date.
/r/seduction24/08/10 05:28 AM
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(cont'd from above) She went home about 130 and dammit, I can't sleep again so I get up and go to the local hookup bar with the intention of trying direct game, getting there about 2. I'm surprised because it's actually full. Mostly men, but the few women there were quality, really surprising because its more of a redneckish place than I prefer. I figure that gives me a little bit of that "I'm better than you vibe" because I honestly feel it when I go there. Still, I was by myself and it was my …
/r/seduction24/08/10 12:39 AM
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How do we know she isn't just using the idea of sex as bait to manipulate you? Maybe, 1.) she wants someone to cuddle with 2.) she wants somebody else to kiss 3.) she uses talk of and the promise of sex as a reward for AFCs who do her bidding. Sex will always be some place in the future. 4.) Kissing is put off because it is so intimate, but she's just using you and has no actual attraction for you. Check out Vin DiCarlo's Pandora's Box.
/r/seduction23/08/10 05:12 PM
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Congrats for this weekend, but you're sorta right and sorta wrong. If you concentrate too hard on results, yes, you will come off as try-hard. If you don't focus on results at all you'll miss a lot of lays you could have by recalibrating and not getting blown out or ejected.
/r/seduction23/08/10 05:04 PM
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Congrats for this weekend, but you're sorta right and sorta wrong. If you concentrate too hard on results, yes, you will come off as try-hard. If you don't focus on results at all you'll miss a lot of lays you could have by recalibrating and not getting blown out or ejected.
/r/seduction23/08/10 05:04 PM
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Where I live it seems age is the factor whether to text or talk. I'm almost 32. Talking to a young girl on the phone can be kinda boring. Really, what do I have in common with a 19 yo? When I text her though, every hit she gets from me has more thought, and therefore more energy and power behind it. Older girls and MILFS like to talk because they're lonely without me in there life.
/r/seduction23/08/10 08:41 AM
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These girls need the most qualification. Bust her chops often. You make the plans--95% of the time do what you like to do. What you like to does not equate to "But I like making her happy. . ." Occasionally give in but only if she gives a little too. Then you say "Okay, only if you . . ." You ask her questions to make her qualify herself about what she's doing and what she wants. Then if you approve, let it happen. If not, don't.
/r/seduction22/08/10 09:58 PM
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I am beginning to think that game is about one subcommunication at it's core: I am a little bit better than you. This. A while back I posted something under a different user name when I realized this. If you have standards that are attainably higher than hers and are a little bit aloof, she'll try to fit within those standards to gain your acceptance. The reward you offer her for complying is good feelings, whether it's giving her an ego boost (campsite) or your sex.
/r/seduction22/08/10 09:48 PM
1

This is hilarious.
/r/seduction22/08/10 04:52 PM
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...if med school allows me to have weekends to myself. Hahahaha you're in the army now, son.
/r/seduction22/08/10 03:31 PM
2

If there's anything Fight Club taught me it was don't let fear keep me from being the man I want to be. I'm glad Nurse Girl was impressed enough by you to get in touch like that. I'm kicking myself for not sarging last night--it's also move in week here. I haven't slept all week, maybe 6 hours since Monday when my gf and I broke up. Well, I had a date with HB6 from my [FR] on Wed. and fell asleep after, but not before setting my alarm for 2am so I could get out to the bars by 3 and do cleanup. B…
/r/seduction22/08/10 02:13 PM
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This. It contributed directly to the end of a very good year long relationship. <\3 If you're gonna do it, be honest about it from the get-go.
/r/seduction22/08/10 01:52 PM
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Agreed.
/r/seduction21/08/10 10:56 PM
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Knock out Last Minute Resistance up front by making sure you qualify her. This happens early on after you've hooked and established attraction. To quote myself from another post: When it's pretty obvious she's into you ask her questions about herself and make her defend her answers. This lets her know you're interested in her, not just her body. This is one of the main ways to destroy the Anti-Slut Defense that would otherwise happen later. Doing this at the right time (see above) is essential t…
/r/seduction21/08/10 10:53 PM
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Labeling the event is not how you define the event. Calling it a date or not does not actually make it one. Your attitude, vibe, intentions, actions, attitude, reactions, attitude, and attitude define what it is. Be chill and start the ball rolling, then build up momentum as you go.
/r/seduction21/08/10 10:46 PM
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Sounds like you did well for your first time and that you learned from it and the comments below. Keep it up!
/r/seduction21/08/10 10:44 PM
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Negs are back-handed compliments that are delivered to lower the targets value. She must be a 9+ in looks, status, and self-esteem. 6-8 may take insult at negs and become bitchy to try to save some face. Don't neg them. Tease everybody. Teasing has more of a cocky-funny aspect like what David DeAngelo teaches. Girls relish a battle of wits and will respect you more. Have the attitude of a small child who delights in everything he does, thinks himself clever, and flirts with everyone. There is a …
/r/seduction21/08/10 10:28 PM
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What? Read Mystery Method. A neg is delivered as if intended as a compliment but worded to expose the lower value of the thing being complimented. To a high value girl (a 10 in face, body, status, and emotional state) with nails that look good but are fake--"I like your nails. . .are they real?" She'll have to admit they aren't thus possibly lowering her self-perceived status. To a girl who is a 9 or 10 physically, but only a 7 or 8 emotionally, the neg is less effective and may insult her becau…
/r/seduction21/08/10 10:21 PM
2

Hey man, why don't you do a post on Halloween there. Like likkity-split so folks can figure logistics on getting there in time.
/r/seduction21/08/10 09:09 AM
1

Great insight!
/r/seduction21/08/10 09:04 AM
2

Where are you going to college? Perhaps one of us is there and can take you out to show you. In return though, you gotta be his winggirl and get him closer to scoring with a hottie.
/r/seduction21/08/10 08:53 AM
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Nice. I agree four was too many for me too. I just got out of a long-term monogamy so I'm still building up my stable, but I'm shooting for 3 gfs and one night a week to sarge, two to kick it with friends, and one to rest.
/r/seduction20/08/10 03:40 PM
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Well, I don't have any idea. I've never met one. My kung fu teacher, who is a black American says be a black American. He never had so much attention from the ladies as what he had when he was in Scandanavia.
/r/seduction20/08/10 03:38 PM
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She is not your only option for sex for the next few weeks. Go meet other women, remember 4-10 hours in contact from open to lay! Being Alpha and controlling the frame is not about being punitive! Don't overtly punish girls!!! It makes them feel bad. They only want to hangout/sleep with guys who make them feel good!!! Make them feel good, you are the source of all that feels good. When they screw up, don't make them feel anything. When they don't get their "hit" and you offer them another, sligh…
/r/seduction20/08/10 03:33 PM
1

Exactly. Time spent in contact was about 4 hours, real time remained 36. All I'm sayin' is I definitely spend my time fair share of time sarging on the couch in my underwear, but I'm getting dressed up and sarging out on the town on Saturday night.
/r/seduction20/08/10 03:12 PM
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Okay, Sexual conversation comes from sexual tension. You can't go straight from "How was your day" to "Your ass looks great in those jeans." It's kinda jilted. There's a reason certain guys are called smooth, they smoothly transition from safe to naughty. Try this: Greet her>Open thread>Transition Thread>Tease Her On teasing: Don't be mean, but don't take any of her shit, if you can build her up to the point where she's all "Jeez, I just can't win with you!" with a big stupid grin on her face, t…
/r/seduction20/08/10 03:07 PM
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Guys keep in mind that the standard for seduction from open to lay, according to Mystery, is 4-10 hours of direct contact, with an average of 7. Apocalypse Opener and some others claim to be within minutes. Don't forget to practice actually going out and sarging both day game and night game. Night game is the hardest, but the fastest. Time is money.
/r/seduction20/08/10 02:46 PM
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Cold reading without the veil of supernatural can be as simple as: *"Hey you play music don't you?" *She smiles and nods. *Yes, and I'll bet you play_______. *She says "Omygaawwwwd howdidyou knooowww?" *You smile and say "You have siblings. . .What did they play?" Or: *"Hey you play music don't you?" *Her: "No." *You: "No, but you do do something creative, don't you? It's very important for you to unwind while making something. . ." *Her: "Yes, I write. . .how did you know?" Because I'm good at …
/r/seduction20/08/10 02:38 PM
1

A-men!
/r/seduction20/08/10 06:05 AM
1

Okay do this: *Open *Transition by interrupting her (or not if your opener intentionally allowed her to respond with a short reply) to ask her a topical question about herself, also a good time to cold read. *Listen while maintaining confident alpha state. Listen! Listen! She will tell you all kinds of things about herself. *Ask questions about those things. *Break the flow and introduce a new topic that is totally non sequitor. *You now have 1.)Opening thread 2.)Transition thread 3.)Non sequito…
/r/seduction20/08/10 02:19 AM
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Self-esteem. Change your inner dialogue to one that says you are a sex god that they need in their pussies to feel fulfillment in their lives. Tell yourself that you ooze sex appeal like nobody's business. Stuff like that.
/r/seduction20/08/10 02:11 AM
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Download Magic Bullets, it explains DHV pretty clearly. tl;dr DHV is something you bring to their party, conversation, or life that is valuable, i.e. you have social status, you are powerful, you are fun, you are rich, you can provide, you can improve their situation somehow. This is implicit in your posture, clothes, grooming, language etc. It is explicit in your routines and stories. An example is Sedditor walks into a bar, he is tall and handsome (DHV attractive), has good (DHV health) confid…
/r/seduction20/08/10 02:07 AM
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My waiter last night was pretty alpha, and also tall (I'm only 5'9"). He squatted down even with us to take our orders. Once you hook go on and squat if you're talking about something for just a moment. If it's going to be longer, grab a chair. No chairs--get her out of hers. Also, get her on the move to somewhere quieter.
/r/seduction20/08/10 01:52 AM
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Rock! I just figured out qualification a few months ago. Basically, it shows the girl that you have standards and such, and since she's human and all humans want acceptance, she's likely to try to meet your standards. Before you approach: *Know your intentions *Know at least two places that are open late if you're playing lategame, make one a place to commune and one a quick errand to stop on the way (remember to get her to as many mini-dates as possible)--the errand may or may not be necessary …
/r/seduction20/08/10 01:45 AM
2

Flirt with them. No one else does.
/r/seduction20/08/10 01:16 AM
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26 Hours. Not to brag, but it can be done faster. okcspecialist is right that it feels almost like they're seducing us. Now off to figure out how this translates to HB10s in bars and clubs.
/r/seduction20/08/10 01:15 AM
2

Its a pain in the ass for sure.
/r/seduction20/08/10 01:09 AM
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Erin, this is seddit, not r/erotica.
/r/seduction20/08/10 01:07 AM
1

Yup.
/r/seduction20/08/10 01:06 AM
1

Bows.
/r/seduction20/08/10 01:06 AM
5

I know--these days, Vanilla is the new kink. Can anyone say Mmm-mmm-missionary?
/r/seduction20/08/10 01:02 AM
2

I dunno, she's kinda kinky. It totally depends on if she wants me to wear a blindfold.
/r/seduction19/08/10 08:31 AM
1

It's called buyer's remorse. Prevent it in the next girl by making her qualify herself more (don't overcompensate and do this toooooo much). Also, with the shy girls, you gotta get them to do stuff like scratch your back and rub your shoulders and reward her for it, build up their sexual confidence. Lastly, the day after, you gotta show her you're appreciative of her having shared herself with you the night before, and it's up to you to carry the conversation and keep it fluid, natural and the o…
/r/seduction18/08/10 08:47 PM
0

Cosmo The Fashion Industry The Cosmetic Industry To an extent: The Media. Everything You Did As a Child (that didn't get you called a Tomboy).
/r/seduction17/08/10 12:06 PM
1

Louisville, here.
/r/seduction17/08/10 04:40 AM
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